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Now,

there's a couple of things.

First of all, the whistleblower came out last week and he said that

Trump said at least eight times that he needed a big favor and he wanted Rudy Giuliani.

That's not true.

He brought Rudy Giuliani up twice and the president of the Ukraine was the first one to bring him up, not Donald Trump.

He also said

that

what was the other one that was just debunked this weekend?

I mean, this is a central part of the whistleblower complaint, which is to say that,

look, there is a

this particular transcript of this call was hidden.

This is the biggest.

It was moved over to a super secret vault.

Exactly.

And that was, if you read the actual report, which we have, you see that really what it is, is an outline of publicly available information, like things Rudy Giuliani said on television, things the president tweeted, all that's in there, with a couple of additions.

I've heard there's a call with Ukraine where this was discussed, and the transcript was moved to the super secret place to hide it.

So that shows that they knew it was something bad.

That is central to the argument of the whistleblower case.

Already,

this is Monday.

When did this thing come out?

Thursday?

We're only on Monday of the next week.

And already, that point by the mainstream is already accepted by the mainstream media that, well, no, they were doing that with all the transcripts.

They were doing that with all the transcripts because, as you might remember, the Mexico and Australia calls with the president were leaked to the media.

So they,

to fight those leaks, pulled all these transcripts and started putting them in a super secret vault.

So this whistleblower didn't realize that or didn't put it together or the rumors they heard didn't include that information.

And so they made it a central part of their case to say, look,

this was secret.

That shows it was a problem because it was hidden behind this super secret vault.

The media has already accepted the Trump administration position on this, which is, oh, actually, they were doing it because of these initial early leaks.

What's incredible is this whistleblower has zero credibility.

Zero.

Eight times, he said the president made him a promise.

He never made him a promise.

Asked him for a favor and said, I'm going to hold things back on your defense unless you help me.

He never said that.

Nothing like it.

The media had to edit out 543 words between

I have a favor and also

Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.

Had to edit out

about 540 words.

The guy has no credibility.

Now we find out that the super secret vault is something they do with all of the phone calls.

This is why you don't take second-hand knowledge.

But let me give you something else that just broke this weekend.

We don't know when,

but the intelligence community in the last few months secretly eliminated the requirement that whistleblowers provide direct first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings.

Now this was the intelligence community

that changed their form

and this wasn't uploaded until September 24th, 2019 at 4.25 in the afternoon.

That is just days before the anti-Trump complaint was declassified and released to the public.

The markings on the document state that it was revised in August 2019, but no specific date of revision is disclosed.

So the document was revised in August of this year by the intelligence community.

Then it was only told to the public just a couple of days before this whistleblower report came out.

Now,

what was the claim from the media?

That Donald Trump was trying to hold this whistleblower report back, and all of these things were always reported to Congress.

Wasn't that

the case?

That these always went to Congress.

No whistleblower in the history of whistleblowers, no whistleblower has ever been held back from Congress.

Okay.

The IG

report talks about how this guy, the attorney, the investigator general, had to look at it and say, well, this guy,

he doesn't have any first-hand knowledge.

So, no, I'm not going to give this to Congress.

That's Donald Trump trying to stop this investigation.

I want you to listen to what it used to say

up until this whistleblower.

It says,

first-hand information required.

Now, this is the form that if you have, if you're a whistleblower, you have to fill out.

And on

page 8, it said, first-hand information required.

Here's the explanation.

In order to find an urgent concern credible,

the ICIG must be in possession of reliable first-hand information.

The ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee's second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.

This information includes any information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he or she witnessed some sort of wrongdoing.

Anyone with first-hand knowledge of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with the ICIG.

ICIG.

Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient legal basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA.

If you think that wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than second-hand or unsubstantiated assertations or assertions, the ICIG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA.

Could it be more clear?

You cannot do this.

Why?

Well, we know why, because we have now an impeachment hearing based on a guy who said, the president said at least eight times, the president made a promise.

He said that he was going to withhold things unless

the

transcript was held in a super secret vault because they never do that and there was nothing classified in this.

So why did they do it?

He's hiding something.

All of those assertions have been wrong.

All of them.

Why?

Because this isn't the guy's job.

This guy is not in line here.

He heard other people talk about it.

So it's nothing to do with his job.

The reason why the intelligence community doesn't listen to whispers is because how many times in your life have whispers about you been right?

Our intelligence community requires people who are not dealing in rumors.

Imagine we go to war because there's rumor of things and no one has first-hand knowledge.

Oh, I know.

You know what's weird?

Kind of like when we went into Iraq saying that there were chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction.

What was the left screaming for?

They were screaming for evidence.

Maybe considerably more evidence on that than we do on this.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, look, when you're talking about second-hand information like this, maybe that's good enough for a tweet, but it's good enough for a whistleblower report.

I don't think so.

And one of the things that some on the right are saying is we need to know who this person is.

We need to interview them.

We need to know what they know.

Oh, that's putting him in danger.

President might kill him.

Right.

Yeah, they are.

By the way, that was reported by, I think, 60 Minutes that the whistleblower is getting death threats, and that's why they're under witness protection.

Seems like the whistleblower's own attorney is disagreeing with that and calling out 60 Minutes on that leak.

But beyond all that, what is the value of talking to this person?

Well, who cares?

He's just reporting secondhand information.

No, no, no, no.

Listen,

in the report, his own report,

he says, I have received information from multiple U.S.

government officials.

He also says officials have informed me.

Officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me.

The White House officials who told me this information.

I was told by White House officials, the officials I spoke with.

I was told that a State Department official.

I learned from multiple U.S.

officials.

One White House official described this act.

Based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me,

I also learned from multiple U.S.

officials.

The U.S.

officials characterized this meeting.

Multiple U.S.

officials told me.

I learned from U.S.

officials.

I also learned from a U.S.

official.

Several U.S.

officials told me.

I heard from multiple U.S.

officials.

And multiple U.S.

officials told me.

So he only says that, I don't know anything myself.

Right.

So is it digging for the sources?

Is that the value of talking to this person?

I know.

There's no reason to talk to this person.

There's no reason to listen to this person.

The only reason why we know this story is because, and if you want to talk about deep state,

then the intelligence community should stop doing these things.

If you don't want people thinking there's a deep state, then the intelligence community should stop in the cover of night sometime in August of 2019 that's just about a month and a half ago

sometime in August

they changed the whistleblower requirements

now I just read that paragraph to you about how you cannot be getting giving secondhand now it just says question three

I know about the information I'm disclosing here and you check the box.

I have direct and personal knowledge, or I heard about it from others.

Why would you change that?

Why would you change that?

Unless you're just trying to get rumors out,

which is weird because that's what the Democrats did with the Russia file.

And everybody said we've got to impeach him right away.

And then there was an investigation, and what turned out?

Nothing.

This is the same story over and over and over again.

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Oh, by the way, just one other thing.

We dug up this weekend.

A message from the President of the United States transmitting the treaty between the United States of America and Ukraine on mutual legal assistance in criminal

matters.

So, this was sent by

Bill Clinton,

and in it,

we can request the help of the Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian legal system to investigate things in their country that we have crimes, even we think are crimes, even if they're not crimes

in Ukraine.

And same with us.

Isn't that fascinating?

Again, I think a lot of this just comes down to whether you think...

There's possibly any positive

reason for us to investigate the things going on with not only Joe Biden, but other things in Ukraine.

If you think that, like, well, well, people keep saying it so simply.

It's like, well, he just made a call to Ukraine to investigate and get dirt on his rivals.

It's like, well, wait a minute.

There's more to that.

Yes.

Now, you might think, you might believe

Donald Trump actually didn't care about the crimes being committed here.

or potential crimes being committed or corruption, you might believe that.

And you might believe his only motivation is to get dirt on his enemies.

And if you don't like Donald Trump, I understand why you might believe that.

However, you have to also acknowledge that if these things were going on, they are absolutely in the national interest to be investigating.

So the fact that his political benefits align with national interests on this matter does not mean he committed a crime.

Could we please play the, I think it's a GOP ad.

And it's a great ad because the GOP had nothing to do with it.

It's all coming from people from the New York Times,

the Washington Post, it's CNN, it's MSNBC.

Just listen to what they said when they were investigating Joe Biden.

Listen.

Was Hunter Biden profiting off his dad's work as vice president, and did Joe Biden allow it?

Well, I think there's kind of two separate issues here.

The issue of whether it was wise of Hunter Biden to take this position at Barisma when his father was guiding policy in Ukraine,

and the wisdom of Biden and Biden's staffers, once they knew knew that not to ask Hunter to step down.

I think that is a legitimate subject of scrutiny.

$50,000 a month for Hunter Biden

clearly to be selling influence because otherwise no one would ever pay him that kind of money for a company that frankly was pretty corrupt and has been before and has been since understood.

And is that Joe Biden's fault or problem?

No, but it's hard to imagine Joe Biden wasn't aware of it.

Did Vice President Biden know of his son's role in burisma when he told Ukraine to fire the prosecutor

at that point

yes he would have known this situation involving Joe Biden's sons work for this Ukrainian oligarch owned gas company which is I have to quibble with some of what what your previous guest said is a significant liability for Joe Biden like there is a story here does it raise any questions so let's just so there's more but let's just leave it there there is is a story.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

Another piece of the puzzle that has fallen in.

Remember, Rudy Giuliani went over at request of Trump to find dirt, and that's why he went over to meet with the the president and

also the attorney,

the advisor and attorney, Andre Yermak.

He went, of course, to meet with those guys because Trump said to.

Unfortunately, his contact with the advisor and attorney for Zelensky over the summer was encouraged and facilitated by the U.S.

State Department.

Giuliani, nor Trump, initiated this.

A senior diplomat from the U.S.

contacted Giuliani in July and asked for permission to connect Yermak with him.

Then Giuliani met in early August with Yermak on neutral ground in Spain before reporting back to the State Department everything that occurred at that meeting.

The debriefing occurred August 11th by phone with two senior U.S.

diplomats, one with responsibility for Ukraine, the other responsible for the European Union, according to electronic communication records that have now been reviewed.

When asked on Friday, Giuliani confirmed that the State Department asked him to take the Yermak meeting, and he did, in fact, apprise U.S.

officials every step of the way.

Quote, I really didn't even know who Yermak was, but they vouched for him.

They actually urged me to talk to him because they said he seemed like an honest broker.

I reported back to them, the two State Department officials, what my conversations with Yermak were all about.

All of this was done at the request of the State Department.

Hmm.

Now, why would Ukraine want to talk to Giuliani, and why would the State Department be involved in facilitating it?

What is happening?

There's another pillar that is falling down.

According to interviews with more than a dozen Ukrainian and U.S.

officials, Ukraine's government under recently departed President Pershenko and now Zelensky had been trying since summer of 2018 to hand over evidence about the conduct of Americans they believe might be involved in violations of U.S.

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I'm fascinated that the Democrats

now want, not only have they discovered absolutely nothing in the transcript to Ukrainian President Zelensky, now they want to discover the same nothingness in the phone calls that Trump has made to Putin and other world leaders.

I mean, is there probable cause to go through every single call he's made to every world leader now?

I love this argument, though.

It's classic.

It's classic.

It's like their initial argument was: hey, they moved this to the secret private server because it was such a bad call

that we know now that they knew it in advance.

It wasn't true.

It was so bad they had to move to the secret server.

That's proof that our theory is true.

Now, just three days later, we have the exact opposite.

They

were hiding all these calls because of early leaks.

Okay, that's now they completely acknowledge that.

A central part of their initial argument, completely acknowledged the opposite is true.

But now the backup argument is, well, since they were hiding all these calls on the super secret servers, we need access to all of them.

Because who knows what we could find in there?

Right.

That's fascinating.

Can I tell you something?

People say all the time,

oh, I don't care if Google spies on me or Facebook has all my records or the NSA has every conversation I've ever had on my pillow with my wife.

I don't, because I'm not doing anything wrong.

Really?

Well, then, why do you think this is wrong that they now would have access to every conversation the president had with every world leader?

Because

if you look at this, you know they have the criminal, just not the crime.

So they've already decided he needs to be impeached, but they just have to find whatever it is that they can impeach him on.

And look what they're doing.

The information that they do have, they're stacking all of that information to destroy him.

This is insane.

There is no rule of law anymore in America.

And I love that it's the same people

who are so troubled about the collusion that is potentially involved here and the security, the national security issue that's involved here with Donald Trump, had absolutely no concern about the little Obama discussion with Medvedev a few years ago when he said this.

My last election, I believe.

Yeah.

After my election, I have more flexibility.

And

I transmit this information to the Legion of Energy Standards.

And what were they talking about there?

They're talking about U.S.

missile deployment.

So you're going to have more flexibility to do what when you're not up for re-election ever again.

What are you going to do?

Remove all our missiles?

To me, that's a gigantic national security issue.

Nobody care at all

at all about that.

Nobody cared.

That wasn't the least bit interesting to him.

No, nobody cared.

And that was far more damning than anything that Trump has said to Ukraine's president, probably to Vladimir Putin.

I mean, has he promised them to be flexible about missile deployment after this coming election?

I don't think so.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

And that guy says it in public,

caught on microphone, caught on camera, and they didn't care at all.

Well,

so what are you going to do?

That's a really good question.

What are you going to do?

Here's what you can do.

Do not,

let me say it the way Churchill used to.

Keep calm and carry on.

You keep calm and carry on.

the minute you get angry you will lose the battle

so keep calm

and carry on means still fight the battle you've got to fight the battle but keep

reasonable keep calm keep rational

don't lose your temper and i know how hard that is But the carry-on part is also really important.

Because

here's why we'll lose.

Because we give up.

The only time we'll ever lose is when we give up.

How many times have we said

to the Republicans, you can win this, but they give up.

They don't.

They're too timid.

They're afraid.

They're tired.

Whatever their excuse, they're losers.

They give up.

And they lose every time because they give up.

If we give up on this,

we're done.

And when I mean we're done, I mean those who appreciate justice, law and order, the Constitution, the free market.

The minute we give up, we're done.

And it's really hard not to because you get so sick of it.

You know, we, we, we've got short attention spans, and we get tired of hearing the same thing over and over and over and over and over.

And it was was so predictable when they released a transcript that Republicans were going to say there's nothing there, which I agree with, and the Democrats are going to say it's very, very troubling.

It's a major, this is

cemented in our minds that we've got to proceed with impeachment.

What?

So you're both looking at the same thing and seeing the opposite.

Impeachment, it's required that impeachment is

a reflection of public sentiment.

So if you're not actively fighting it, the press, because it is so overwhelming, did we, I don't know if we cut this piece from,

what's his name?

Robert De Niro.

Did you see him on CNN?

Okay.

What was crazy was what he actually said.

Thank God for CNN.

You know,

they were talking about how crazy and how dangerous Fox is.

And

he said, this is just insane.

And thank God for you guys.

I mean, if it wasn't for you and just a couple of others,

MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post.

I mean, like,

CBS,

I mean, the NBC.

Every major media.

Every major media.

Movies.

TV.

What do you mean if it wasn't for you?

You guys have all of them.

You have all of them.

Right.

And I think,

it's important to draw a distinction between what you're saying we need to keep fighting this and also maintaining the idea that I don't want to fight for a president who did something wrong.

If information comes out that proves that he has, he did something impeachable, I will want him impeached.

Me too.

Like he is not, he does not get an auto defense from any of us.

Nope.

But what he does get is a fair defense.

And here, what we have seen is there are parts of this that you can say you don't like.

You know, we talked to John Solomon about

Biden last week when this was all happening.

And one of the things he brought up was

one of the standards when you're talking about international relations on this level, talking about Biden and Ukraine, is to avoid not just corruption, but the appearance of corruption.

And that's a line I think Donald Trump could honor a little bit better.

You know what I mean?

Like,

these are not only causing

problems to his presidency, but these are standards that have been long adopted by the intelligence community and

our government.

And he should think about those things a little more carefully, right?

Like the idea that, and people are like, oh, well, we found out about this call.

Well, Rudy Giuliani was on television saying he was doing these things months ago.

He's been saying it on television.

This is not something they were hiding.

But it's a good idea to try to avoid those lines when it's at all possible.

And I think that would probably be something that the president could do better.

But

the media has jumped 1,000 paces past this.

They've gone further than we ever went on Joe Biden.

When we were talking about Biden and these things, we said, look,

these are really,

at the very least,

the impression of corruption is all over the place.

And it looks very much like there was corruption going on.

However, we need more information and we don't have enough yet.

The media does not go there.

The media just jumps immediately to this is impeachable.

Can you believe this ever happened?

And so we need to be loyal to our own lines here of making sure we don't just give the president a pass on everything.

I'm not interested in that at all.

Exactly.

I don't think anybody in this audience is.

It makes me really, really angry when people say, you sold out to the president.

You're now supporting him.

I will support anyone I think is on the right side of the law.

I would do this with Barack Obama.

It would make me miserable to do it.

And it would make me miserable to give the Democrats a win year.

But if they had evidence, if you don't think this program would tell you the truth and say, guys, I'm sorry, he's got to go.

I mean, remember, during the election, I said you're going to have nothing but impeachment hearings over and over and over with this guy.

And it could be that he's impeached before the end of his first term.

So I saw this one coming.

However,

this is not right.

If you want, that was my

feeling was this guy's going to be so out of control.

He will do things.

Well, we haven't found them.

When we first did the Russia thing, I thought we'd find it.

I really did.

I thought he did that.

Of course, he did that.

Well, it turns out he didn't.

I was wrong.

All right.

We were all open to, oh, geez, did he really do that?

Did he ask for favors?

And did he then say, I'm going to tie this to that?

And I'm going to promise you this if you get this dirt.

That's not what he said.

If it was, we would be there for impeachment.

That's not what happened.

This is a,

I've not been somebody who has talked to you about deep state in a way where it's like the deep state.

They're all meeting and they're all getting together.

And they're.

I'm telling you now, this is the State Department and the intelligence community that is doing this.

This is the evidence of deep state.

And every Republican, every Democrat, every Independent should care.

I don't care what happens with Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

I do care what happens to our country.

And we are becoming Ukraine.

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give me the strength.

Give me the strength to listen to about 35 seconds of Hillary Clinton this weekend on Sunday Sunday morning, CBS.

Listen.

I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president.

He knows.

He knows that there were a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out the way it did.

And I take responsibility for those parts of it that I should.

But Jane, it was like applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to a corrupt human tornado.

And so I know that he knows that that this wasn't on the level.

I don't know that we'll ever know everything that happened, but clearly we know a lot and are learning more every day.

And history will probably sort it all out.

So of course he's obsessed with me.

And I believe that it's a guilty conscience in so much as he has a conscience.

He doesn't think of you, Hillary.

He doesn't.

When he obsesses over the election, it's not about Hillary Clinton.

It's about the corruption of the Democrats and the way they played.

He's not.

Hillary, you were the worst candidate in my lifetime and maybe in several Bech generations.

I mean, my shoe could have beaten you.

There's no mystery here.

Yeah, that's why you lost.

That's why she lost.

She's horrible.

She was horrible.

Further than I've heard her go, though, she's saying the election was not legitimate.

Remember the big complaint before the election was that Donald Trump was going to say it wasn't legitimate?

Yes.

Do you remember this?

Yes.

Do you remember how the press spent weeks talking about what a scary thing it was that one of a major presidential candidates would say, dare say that if they lost, the other side

cheated?

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

This is what she's saying.

She's saying, we don't know how, but we think he cheated.

That's not how you accuse someone of a major crime.

Well, it was the deal of the media.

They're claiming that the birth certificate stuff claimed that he was an illegitimate president.

Well, yeah, that's exactly what it was.

And you had a problem with it.

And that's why we didn't report on it.

I mean, we did our homework on it, and we found it to be a valid birth certificate.

But those people who kept going with the non-valid birth certificate, look, it could have been changed.

I bet it was CIA that changed it.

Good God.

They're doing the same thing.

This is just their birth certificate thing.

But

here's the problem.

With the birth certificate.

The president could have done, he could have solved that right away.

He could have released that thing right away, but it helped Obama.

It helped him because it made anybody who was opposed to him, they could throw him into birther categories where I wasn't a birther, you weren't a birther, but we were birthers.

Right.

It was a handy way to demean his enemies.

Correct.

Okay, so that's why they kept that thing going for as long as they did.

Now,

what are they doing here?

With the birth certificate, it was Obama's prerogative to release that certificate whenever he wanted.

He held it back.

This

is not only a false claim, this is what they did.

This is what they did.

Oh, he was involved in Russia.

Let me give you some new information now on the Ukraine scandal

with the DNC.

We are doing a special with Blaze TV, and the episodes begin tonight.

Tonight, we're talking to you about what you need to know, what your questions are, because I want to make sure that on Thursday this special hits everything that it needs to hit.

On Tuesday, we're going into

Biden and Ukraine.

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Then on Thursday, we'll do a special behind the scenes at 5 o'clock.

And then Thursday night at 8:30 Central Time, 9:30 Eastern, we are going to do a special, Ukraine, the Democrats Russia.

Now, why are we calling it the Democrats Russia?

When John Solomon was doing his research on the

Russian

collusion story, what, about a year and a half ago.

He had gone over to the Ukraine because some of the information was coming from the Ukraine.

And

so when he's looking at it, he was asking for the Ukrainians to help.

Did it come from you?

Where was it?

Were the Democrats involved?

So he was satisfied that Donald Trump was not involved with Russia and that he had not colluded with Russia to get dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The last thing that this source in Ukraine said to John Solomon was when John said, Okay, so there's really nothing to see here.

The guy looked at him and said, shook his head and said, You don't get it.

Ukraine

is the Democrats, Russia.

Everything that they said Donald Trump was doing, they were doing in Russia.

And the evidence is a little overwhelming at this point.

Imagine what could happen and the evidence you could get if you're looking for it.

Let me give you a couple of things.

First,

Chris Murphy

from Connecticut, he's a Democrat from Connecticut,

he called or went over to Zelensky and he wanted to make sure that

the new Ukrainian president knew exactly what the deal was.

Now, he spoke to him in, I believe, August.

I don't have the date in front of me.

While choosing his words carefully, this is from John Solomon.

Murphy made clear by his own account that Ukraine currently enjoyed bipartisan support for U.S.

aid, but that could be jeopardized if the new president acquiesced to a request by President Trump to investigate past corruption allegations involving Americans, including Joe Biden.

What is that?

Can somebody help me on that?

What is that?

Did he not just threaten aid?

Murphy boasted after the meeting that he told the new Ukrainian leader that the U.S.

aid was his country's most important asset, and it would be viewed as election-meddling and disastrous for long-term U.S.-Ukrainian relations to bend to the wishes of Donald Trump.

Quote, I told Zelensky that he should not insert himself himself or his government into American politics.

I cautioned him that complying with the demands of the president's campaign representatives to investigate a political rival of the president would gravely damage U.S.-Ukrainian relationship.

There are a few things Republicans and Democrats agree on in Washington these days, and support for the Ukraine is one of them.

So here's his message:

Investigate the Ukraine dealings with Joe Biden and his son, and you're not going to get any aid.

Now,

that's current.

So they just did exactly what they accused the president of doing.

But the president was looking for something else.

So you have to understand, he is not obsessed with Hillary Clinton.

She's a loser, and he knows it.

And he doesn't spend any time thinking about people he thinks are losers.

What he is thinking about is, and she did it for a reason, he's an illegitimate president.

She knows that will bother him at night.

It will bother him in everything he does.

That will stick to him, and he will make mistakes because he will be so preoccupied with, they're saying I'm an illegitimate president.

I'm not an illegitimate president.

So they're trying, she specifically chose those words because she's trying to get underneath his skin, and it will work.

Now,

I want to give you a couple of other things

of what Donald Trump is actually looking for.

He's not obsessed with Clinton.

He's obsessed with the DNC's investigation into the Russia thing.

He's obsessed with that because it didn't happen.

And

how did this happen?

He believes he was set up.

Now, I'm going to give you some clear-cut evidence that that is true.

This on top of the Biden thing.

The Biden thing is what everybody's concentrating on.

That's not what you should focus on.

And I'll give you some of that evidence in one minute.

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As early as January 2016, the Obama White House unexpectedly invited Ukraine's top prosecutors to Washington to discuss fighting corruption in the economy.

The meeting, promised as training, turned out to be more of a pretext for the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine's prosecutors to drop an investigation

into the Burisma Holdings Gas Company that employed Hunter Biden and to look for new evidence in a then-dormant criminal case against eventual Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a GOP lobbyist.

So this is 2016.

The Obama administration brings the prosecutors over and says, hey, we got to train.

We got to work together.

And oh, by the way, you guys got to stop on that thing.

U.S.

officials, quoting,

kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united.

Now, this is not like a whistleblower that's saying this, who has secondhand knowledge.

This is the former political officer in the Ukrainian embassy in Washington who organized and attended the meetings.

Nazar Kolodensky, Ukraine's chief anti-corruption officer, also

on the record, said soon after he returned from the Washington meeting, he saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S.

election.

The two top Ukrainian officials that released secret evidence to the American media smearing Paul Manafort.

That's what they were asking for in 2016, the Obama White House, here in the United States, in Washington.

When they got back, two officials smeared Manafort and released information.

Now, what's interesting about this is Manafort had a partner.

Manafort had somebody else doing exactly the same thing, except on the Democratic side.

And that name is Tony Podesta.

And if you remember, the day Manafort was arrested, Tony Podesta closed his business, a very successful Washington lobbyist group.

He closed it and retired.

Now, why do you think?

And why hasn't Tony Podesta been asked about anything?

Why hasn't there been any records released from Ukraine on Tony Podesta?

The release of the evidence forced Manafort to step down as Trump's top campaign advisor.

Now, so you know, this just isn't two sources that are saying this.

A Ukrainian court concluded last December that the release of the evidence amounted to an unlawful intervention in the U.S.

election

by the Kyiv government.

You have that?

This is more than a whistleblower.

This is the courts in the Ukraine saying that two members of the government were engaged in unlawful intervention in the U.S.

election.

Who was that benefiting?

That was benefiting Hillary Clinton.

Who asked them to do it?

It was the Obama administration.

Shortly after the Ukrainian prosecutors returned from their Washington meeting, a new round of Democratic pressure was then exerted on Ukraine, this time via the embassy in Washington.

Valerity Chali, I don't know how to pronounce the first name, he's the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States, confirmed in a statement issued by his office that in March 2016, a contractor for the Democratic National Committee pressed his embassy to try to find any Russian dirt on Trump and Manafort that might reside in Ukraine's intelligence files.

The DNC contractor also asked the ambassador's team to try to persuade Ukraine's president, Petro Proshenko, to make a statement disparaging Manafort when the Ukrainian leader visited the United States during the 2016 election.

The ambassador said his embassy rebuffed both requests because it recognized they were improper efforts to get a foreign government to try to influence the election against Trump and for Hillary Clinton.

It's easy to see everything that the Democrats accused Donald Trump of doing with Russia, they themselves were doing in Ukraine.

This is without a government

investigation.

This is just good reporting.

Nellie Orr, the wife of senior U.S.

Justice Department official Bruce Orr, who we know played a role,

worked in 2016 as a contractor for Fusion GPS, the same Hillary Clinton-funded opposition firm that hired Christopher Steele, the British spy who wrote the now-debunked dossier linking Trump to Russia.

Okay, so Nellie Orr

was the one who was giving the Fusion GPS stuff

into

the federal government through her husband, and that got to the Justice Department, the FBI.

They started an investigation, then they leaked it to the press, blah, blah, blah.

She has now testified to Congress that some of the dirt she found on Trump during her 2016 election opposition research came from a Ukrainian parliamentary member.

She also said she eventually took the information to the FBI through her husband, another way Ukraine got inserted into the election.

So, pressure, opposition research, all part of the Democrats' playbook on Ukraine long before Trump ever called Zelensky this summer.

And as I pointed out in the article here with John Solomon, Chris Murphy from Connecticut is still using that political pressure to influence elections in the United States through Ukraine.

This is much, much bigger than Joe Biden.

That is a big part,

but honestly, a minor role on why you should care.

This is the Democratic

National Committee.

using another intelligence service to influence our elections.

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It's sort of the Democrats' Russia, as Glenn talked about here.

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We were both so exhausted, we just sat on our stairs by the front door.

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she said, okay.

So tell me what the hell is happening with the impeachment and the Ukrainian thing?

What's this all about?

And so, we sat there for a while, and I tried to explain it.

And that's exactly what I'm going to help you with on Thursday.

So, if you know anybody that needs to know this, wants to know this, is eager to find out the truth, the narrative has not been put together by anybody yet.

It's all kind of just bits and pieces here and there.

And

a lot is here to show you that this is massive corruption, massive corruption.

And we have to be aware.

And I don't care where, really, honestly, I don't think this is going to happen.

But if it does, if Donald Trump was found to do something impeachable,

I would be for it.

If the Republicans were doing this, remember, I was on Paul Manafort

long before

he joined Donald Trump.

We were talking about the corruption in Ukraine long before he was with Donald Trump.

And we were saying, look at this guy.

This guy should go to jail.

Look at what he's doing.

We were on that story.

It doesn't matter who they are, if they're guilty, because this corruption is so deep.

Exactly everything that the Republic or the Democrats said that Donald Trump did in Russia, they did

and are still doing in Ukraine.

And we don't have a republic if this remains.

For instance,

one of the things in the phone call that the left made a big deal out of is that he was asking for help, not for Hunter Button, the first thing he asked for.

What was the first thing he said, you have to find?

The first thing he said was, you still may be surrounded by really bad guys.

There is corruption all around you.

And we think some of those bad guys are still in your circle of advisors.

And the president said, I know who you're talking about.

This is the president of Ukraine.

I know who you're talking about.

And no, sir, they are not in my circle.

Well, I want you to be sure because they're really bad guys.

I understand what you're saying.

Then he said,

we are looking for a server.

Now, what server are they looking for?

They're looking for the DNC server.

How dare Donald Trump, how dare him

tell the Ukrainians to look for a server?

I'm going to tie this together with one other thing in a second.

The other thing is, he also said, you have somebody that you talk to me about, and I want you to know I got rid of the ambassador, the US ambassador to the Ukraine I got rid of her so that obstacle is no longer there Okay, what is that obstacle that obstacle was stopping the Ukrainians going into the embassy and saying I have evidence that your government operate operatives are doing bad things here.

I have information and I have evidence against some people that are coming here to the United States that are interfering in elections, et cetera, et cetera.

Why would the DNC have a server in Ukraine?

Now, this is the one that was hacked.

Now, why do they have a DNC server in Ukraine?

Well, wouldn't we like to know?

So, Donald Trump asked for the server.

How dare him?

Yeah, except that's the same server

that

James Comey was looking for, that the FBI, the Justice Department, was looking for and couldn't find.

Remember, they said that server was really, really important for the Russia investigation?

That's the same server that Donald Trump is looking for.

So if it was so important that the FBI and James Comey needed it, why is it so bad?

Because it's going to prove that Donald Trump was guilty, right?

So why is everybody upset that he's asking for this server?

Why is it so bad that he says, hey, talk to our attorney general

about this server?

Can you find it?

Donald Trump, why would he want the server that was going to prove what he did in Russia?

Because the people in the Ukraine, in Ukraine, have been trying to get things to the United States, but they were blocked by the DNC.

They were blocked by operatives in intelligence, in justice, and in the embassy.

I don't know about you, but I'd sure like to see what's on that DNC server.

And if it implicates Donald Trump, then it implicates Donald Trump.

If it implicates the DNC, then it implicates the DNC.

There's one other thing that came out that we talked about last

hour that that

I can't emphasize how important this is enough.

The intelligence community

did something very, very odd last month.

And

if you don't believe that the deep state exists.

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And to hell with the public.

The public voted this guy in, but they're stupid.

We've got to stop it.

And there are people in the Justice Department.

There are people in the intelligence community.

There are people in the State Department.

There are people even in the White House.

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I want to make this clear.

We do not know when this law was changed.

We believe that it was revised.

This document was revised in 20, sorry, in August 2019.

So, this last August.

We know that sometime between May 2018 and August 2019, the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings.

Now, this implicates the intelligence community.

Why did the intelligence community quietly and not announce this change and not post this change until September 24th, 2019 at 4.25 p.m.?

That's when it was uploaded.

The document was uploaded.

And now this document is

something that was released two days before the Trump dossier was released.

And it is a massive change.

The change in the document, if you go in and say, hey, I've got a crime, I need the attorney, I need the Inspector General to be able to see this because I think there's a crime going on.

The document used to say, in order to find urgent concerns credible,

the ICIG must be in possession of reliable first-hand information.

The ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employer's second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.

This includes information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he or she witnessed some sort of wrongdoing.

Anyone with first-hand knowledge of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with the ICIG.

Similarly,

speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient legal basis to meet statutory requirements of the ICWPA.

So when the Democrats said no whistleblower has ever been held back

Until this one.

Well, yes, because until right now,

whistleblowers had to be first-hand.

They had to be somebody who was a witness, who had first-hand knowledge.

This whistleblower does not have first-hand knowledge.

Well, this president, he held him back.

Hmm.

No, it looks like the intelligence community changed their disclosure of urgent concern form.

And they did it

probably

in August of 2019 and then released it in September of 2019, just a couple of days before all of this stuff came out.

And that form

now reads, I know about information that I'm

disclosing here and check check this box.

I have direct and personal knowledge, or I heard about it from others.

We have always had

whistleblowers have to have first-hand knowledge.

We're not chasing ghosts or rumors, first-hand knowledge.

They just changed that for some reason.

And it was the intelligence community that did that.

So

Trump can trust the intelligence community, right?

You can trust the intelligence community, right?

Don't you think that's a little coincidental?

That our standards have been forever first-hand knowledge?

And right,

right just days before they let us know, oh, we changed that.

Why?

Why did you change that?

What possible reason would make you say,

yeah,

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You want first-hand knowledge.

And you come come under the protection of the government when you whistleblow.

Why wouldn't you?

Why wouldn't you want to encourage the employees who are standing around doing rumors and say, wait a minute, if that's true, go file right now.

Come on, I'll go with you.

Go file right now.

Why would you have rumors that then could be released to the press that you don't know if they're true or not.

That's insanity.

But that's what your intelligence community has just done to the President of the United States.

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The digital gulag

and the simulation of freedom.

That is the subtitle of Google Archipelago by Michael Rechtenwald.

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deconstruction, I think, and

teaching and

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And he's really had his eyes opened to the left and now is speaking out in a strong voice.

Welcome to the program, Michael Rechtenwald.

Hi, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

Good morning.

Hey, I want to congratulations on your book.

It's called Google Arpelago, the Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom.

I want to start there, Michael.

What do you mean by the simulation of freedom?

Well, you know how the Internet gives us the sense that we can go anywhere, do anything, learn anything, and have unlimited roaming capacities.

You know, that's been the that's been the promise of the Internet

since its inception.

Well, it's a simulated freedom That is, it's not really freedom because we're being trammeled, we're being controlled.

Our searches are being

basically diverted by Google and other entities, but especially Google for searches.

So in effect, we don't have the unlimited freedom that we think.

We're actually being

controlled to a great extent by virtue of the algorithms that Google has instituted.

If everybody, if you're by a computer right now, go to google.com

and just type in in your search box just the letter A.

Stu, you doing it?

What comes up first?

Amazon.

Amazon.

Do you know why Amazon is coming up first?

You would think, because, well, everybody's searching for Amazon.

What are you searching for Amazon for?

How about just going to amazon.com?

Why go to google.com to find amazon.com, right?

Why is it coming up first?

Because it's their biggest financial partner is Amazon.

And so whether you're being manipulated because of financial reasons that you don't understand or for political or social reasons, you are being manipulated.

Indeed.

So, Michael, you

talk about new knowledge.

And before we get into,

before we get into that with capital letters, there is new knowledge going around.

And it is, you know, that there is no difference, you know, that men can have babies.

That's new knowledge.

Show how we're being manipulated on that.

Well, I mean, if you type, for example, you just talked about a Google search.

If you type in men can, just type in men can.

Do that, you know,

the amazing results that you'll get.

What Google is attempting to do in their worldview is really all demonstrated almost instantly by virtue of this search.

Show me what it says.

It says, this has been exposed.

You don't have it?

Do you have it?

Men can.

Let's see.

Turst says men can have periods is the number one.

Okay.

Men can have babies.

Men can have babies now.

Men can think about nothing.

Men can get pregnant.

Okay.

Now.

Go search for

women can't there, by the way.

What's that?

Yeah, you have to have a space.

Now search for women can.

Michael, tell me the significance of what he just found with men can.

Well, I mean,

so one of the things that Google is about is that they are trying to break down what I call social ontologies.

And that is, you know, the basic structure or infrastructure of our social order.

You know, men and women, for example, are the basic constituents of a family, as, you know, for a reproductive family.

Well, they don't want the family to exist.

One of the major arguments of this book is that Google is a leftist authoritarian outfit.

And they are trying to abolish the family, and that is one of the main constituents that stands between corporate state power and the individual.

That's quite a statement.

That's a real statement to make that they're trying to abolish the family.

Why would they want to do that?

Because it suits their interests.

Their interests are to have no mitigating force between them and the state or the corporate state,

as it were, because they are really state actors, as I've

shown in the book.

All right.

Now search for women can.

Do you have that still?

Yes.

Women can gives you...

Women can do it.

Women can vote.

Women can do anything.

Women can fly, which, if true, I'm going to the airlines right away and trying to impose that.

And then women can be drafted is the last one.

But the first four are very positive.

Women can fly.

What person is searching for women can fly?

Right.

Nobody's searching for that.

Now,

you talk, and this is something also that our podcast just from over the weekend with Robert Epstein, he was saying that it's not necessarily the search results.

It's the drop bound box that makes a huge impact before the search results even get there.

Can you explain that?

Yeah, it's the algorithms are actually determining what pre-search results that you're going to get.

In other words, they're leading you into certain results by virtue of suggesting, filling in the blanks of what you are searching for and giving you the answer for what you're searching for before you even complete the search.

And this has a great deal.

People often just drop down on the box instead of completing their search by typing.

They prefer to let the algorithm fill it in for them.

The algorithm fills it in and diverts them into the channel that Google would have you go in.

But if you're not searching for women can fly, is the concept that they're just showing you all positives about women?

Absolutely.

Okay.

Yes, they have this thing called

algorithmic unfairness.

Okay.

Now,

that's their definition of what they mean by algorithmic unfairness is unfairness in the world.

They're not talking about their algorithms being unfair.

They're saying that there is an unfairness built into the reality and that they attempt purposely

to change that unfairness by virtue of altering the results that they give you for your searches to reflect the way the world should be rather than the way it actually is.

But, Michael,

yeah,

because

your conclusion, new knowledge or does the real exist?

Nothing in the men's drop-down box, men can have periods, men can have babies, you know,

those aren't true.

That's not

they're not true, but they want them to be true.

They want these things to be true because they are trying to disestablish our stable social ontologies.

They are attempting to eradicate eradicate

any barriers that stand between corporate state power and the individual.

Okay, so the family is the main one.

I mean, Karl Marx in 1848,

with

Engels, in the Communist Manifesto, one of the 10 points in the platform was to abolish the family.

This goes back hundreds of years now.

And there is no question that Google has interest

in the abolition of the social ontologies that lead to the family.

So

there are policies inside the company that make it very apparent

and

there are algorithmic biases

that are facing outward to the public that make it very apparent.

You talk about new knowledge, and we've talked about new knowledge being, you know, women can fly and men can have periods, but new knowledge is capitalized, capital N, capital K.

What is new knowledge?

There's a company called NewKnowledge.com

that builds themselves as a disinformation agent, as the leading disinformation agent on the web.

Now,

as we've seen with the affair that's going on in terms of the Ukraine issue, anytime they're saying one thing, it's really the opposite.

New knowledge

claims to be the main source for uncovering the Russian bots that were colluding to help Donald Trump win the 2016 election.

Well, after they submitted their report to the Senate Intelligence Committee,

they then went on in the 2017 election

to simulate Russian bots themselves to support the candidacy of Roy Moore.

in order to make it look like the Russians were behind his candidacy.

So they create reality.

Then they spread this news, quote-unquote news, to the news outlets saying that this was happening.

They were producing the reality that they were reporting, having reporters report on.

This is what's going on.

This is what new knowledge is.

It's the creation of a simulated reality.

And then the reporting on it by news outlets.

This is unbelievable, Michael.

I was at a friend's house on Saturday, and

I walk in and they said, Alexa, living room lights.

And I said,

dear God, don't tell me.

No, you don't have Alexa all throughout everything in your life.

Yeah, we love it.

I said, do you have Nest too?

Yeah, we love it.

And I said, uh-huh, that's great.

And I tried to talk to him about, you got to stop that.

Don't, don't feed that any more information.

Can you explain to the person who says, but I love this.

I don't want to have anything to hide.

As he said, Glenn, if they're coming for me, they're out of everybody else.

Right.

So what do you have a couple things to say about that?

First of all, Alexa has been shown to be a biased virtual assistant.

It is collecting information that leads you to certain conclusions that they want you to draw.

So the information is already tilted.

Alexa is based on tilted algorithms, just like Google search engine is.

Secondly, Alexa is recording your conversations.

And with the development of HARPA,

the Health Advanced Research Project Agency, which is an analog of DARPA,

is to be an analog of DARPA.

This data will be collected, collated, and sent to a central database in order to be interpreted to decide upon certain things about your life.

For example, whether you can own a gun.

And it's not just Alexa, it's Google Home, it's the Google Watch, and it's your television if it's a certain brand, and I won't mention it.

No, mention it.

Go ahead, mention it.

It's Samsung.

Samsung's televisions have been shown to be recording

conversations.

So,

and soon it could be a refrigerator.

If the Internet of Things becomes

what it's vaunted to be.

That is, any appliance in your home, any appliance.

I'm talking a washing machine.

I'm talking hairdryers, everything.

Hair dryer, a microwave.

I'm looking around my apartment here.

A refrigerator.

Blender.

Television, radio, anything that plugs in and has a chip.

Right.

Anything that can be chipified.

Then we'll be in this new Internet of Things, which is IoT, as they call it, the smartification of everything.

This smartification of everything is basically

the circumvention of your, what it is, it's the surrounding of yourself with intelligent machinery, which is in effect, a way to fence yourself in to

be surveilled upon,

to have all the data in your home recorded and sent to central agencies, to have it collated, et cetera, et cetera.

It's a very, very scary proposition.

So

in the the book, I say, I'm sorry.

No, go ahead.

In the book.

In the book, in Google Archipelago, I say that soon everything that's happening outside of the home will be recorded and tracked and traced, and much of what goes on inside of the home as well.

Thanks to this internet of things, the smartification of everything.

Google Archipelago is the name of the book with Michael Recton.

Well, more in just a second.

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A lot of Germans said at first, no, it's just like the Boy Scouts.

It's just like the Boy Scouts.

The Hitler youth.

Yes, it's about Hitler and stuff, but they do a lot of good things.

And my kids get out and they get fresh air and everything else.

Well, eventually those kids were taught to report on their parents.

You don't need the kids to do it.

Now your Blender will do it.

Your TV, Google is doing it.

Nest is doing it.

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So,

Michael,

I just did a podcast

with Robert Epstein, who I think you know.

And he is all over Google, and he scared the living daylights out of me and said, Glenn, everything that has happened so far has concerned me.

Last year, I became

deeply troubled by it.

He said, but 2020 is the year of being terrified of what is coming.

And he believes we are.

We have either crossed the threshold or about to before it's too late, and we're trapped in what you call a digital gulag.

Yes, a simulated reality.

That is, they're producing news and then

they're producing reality and then reporting on it as if it's real.

And this is really the scariest thing that's going on.

And then they're going to make anybody that claims the truth to be real to be insane.

They're going to declare them insane.

This is

they're just going to make you out to be a crack spot, some sort of a lunatic, you know, a fringe character.

So this is really what's at stake.

What's at stake is the very value of truth.

And we don't have people who really understand it here.

I was talking to someone who is in the know about

the social scores in China.

And he said, Glenn, when you talk about it, you don't go far enough.

He said, everyone's social score is...

is tied to each other and they can tell if your phone is in proximity of somebody else's phone.

And if you're talking to somebody who has a lower social score, your social score is affected.

So

you get to a point where you're like, dude, I cannot talk to you.

Don't call me anymore.

I can't talk to you.

This is a way of banishing certain people.

And particularly, it is in China a way of banishing people whose politics don't line up with the communist

Chinese Communist Party.

But isn't that the same thing with us now?

We're at the beginning to where they are banning voices, political voices, and saying

you can't play in society.

What they haven't done yet is taken the next step.

Right.

They haven't done total deletions of the actual individuals, but they're doing digital deletions, which are a lot easier to affect.

Correct.

A digital deletion of an individual.

Basically, when you've made the whole social world dependent upon the digital realm, and then you delete somebody from the digital realm, you've you've effectively socially erased them.

And that's what happens.

The name of the book is Google Archipelago, The Digital Gulag and The Simulation of Freedom by Michael Rechtenwald.

Really, really well done, well researched.

He's a great writer.

I can't recommend it highly enough.

If you are at all concerned about what is happening,

it's Google Archipelago and it's Michael Rechtenwald.

Now, Google Archipelago, the digital gulag and the simulation of freedom.

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where the Ferris wheel, the bolt breaks, and he's on top of the Ferris wheel.

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At some point.

Right.

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Thursday.

I mean, I guess it would be your attention to this important story.

Yeah, it would.

Can we make some sort of analogy like, you know, the Democrats' narrative on Ukraine is.

I'll come up with something.

I'll come up with a chalkboard.

So we'll get an extra day out of your death.

Oh, cool.

Okay.

I mean, I don't, there's not, it's not going to be a lot lot of opposition to this idea.

I'll tell you that much.

We have a big special coming up three days, nine hours, 55 minutes from now.

It is

the special on

Ukraine and exposing what's really going on and

showing you the facts that we have.

We'll have everything on that special.

I put one rule.

When in doubt, leave it out.

If it's in this special, if it's not, if we're not absolutely sure,

leave it out.

For instance, there's a story today that we've been reporting on the change in

the whistleblower documents.

Now, the left is coming out and saying, no, they made that change in May of 18.

Well, I said that this morning.

I've said that a couple of times, that

we don't know when this came out.

It may have been as early as May of 18.

August 19

is the last.

And we know that they announced this change publicly September 20th, just a couple of days before all of this story broke.

But

what is not in dispute,

I believe we will know for sure, but what is not in dispute, I believe, is when you look at the two documents, one says, You can't have secondhand knowledge and be urgent and be sent in to Congress right away.

You can't be part of an urgent report if you have secondhand knowledge.

Yeah, the paragraph is called first-hand information required.

Right.

And that kind of says it all.

First-hand information is required.

That box is no longer on.

That whole paragraph of, hey, you've got to be firsthand, have first-hand knowledge yourself

to be able to send this submission in.

That box is no longer on.

When they did it, why they did it.

So what?

They did it in May of 18.

Oh, like the intelligence community wasn't already riddled with deep state,

wasn't already riddled with people that might want to whistleblow for a political reason.

We know that.

Yeah.

We knew that from the Mueller report.

And Mueller report, I'm glad you brought that up because this is another one of those circumstances where I think it's always a good idea to wait until you understand.

You know, a lot of times it's like learning about someone else's religion.

A lot of times you hear, like, well, they believe this crazy thing.

And then you kind of hear it in context from someone who actually is in the religion.

And you're like, all right, well, that makes a little bit more sense and might not be my belief, but okay, I get it.

The same thing is happening, I think, a little bit here.

And for the left of all groups to be preaching to us about this today, when the very whistleblower report we're talking about included the idea that all of these transcripts from the calls were moved to a super secret server.

That was the main piece of evidence in there.

Oh my gosh, they must have known it was a terrible call because they hid it in this fashion.

Well, the mainstream media, along with everyone else, has already abandoned that now because they now recognize and admit that the Trump administration moved that because of the early leaks in the administration.

So, again, this is another piece where they are jumping to a conclusion based on

information that they think they get, right?

But they, in full context, didn't understand, which they now admit only three days later.

Which is why, do we have the tape of Chuck Todd this weekend?

Which is why Chuck Todd said this with a guest.

Listen to this.

It's the Chuck Todd.

The Chuck Todd.

Here it is.

Here it is.

There are three phone calls, excuse me, two phone calls and one meeting that the president has had with Vladimir Putin.

Actually, all of them have taken place since the election of the Ukrainian President Zelensky.

A phone call on May 3rd, a meeting on June 28th, and a phone call on July 31st,

which, by the way, six days after the Zelensky phone call in question.

Do you think you'll ever know the contents of that conversation?

Of any of those conversations?

So what is he saying here?

In reality, what he's saying is the president has made calls to foreign leaders since then.

That's what he's saying.

Since that phone call, he's made calls to foreign leaders.

If you didn't know the first charge that there is something in this phone call, which they found out there was nothing in that phone call,

would you care if

you knew that the president this summer made three phone calls to Vladimir Putin?

We'd all go, of course he has.

Of course he's talked to him.

But now they've insinuated this first call that something was wrong with it, but there wasn't anything wrong with that call.

So now let's insinuate there's something wrong with these Vladimir Putin calls.

This is a witch hunt.

Well, and it's an argument specifically based on the fact that their last argument failed.

Failed.

Their first argument was these things were only kept secret because they knew this one call with the Ukrainians was really bad, and that's why they hid it.

Now they're saying, oh, well, he's hiding all of them.

Well, now we have to see all of them because all of them must be bad.

Well, wait a minute.

That's you.

The main piece of evidence in the Whistleblower Blower report is about the fact that this call being classified in this fashion indicates the Trump administration knew it was a problem.

And now, since all of them are kept this way,

now you have to back off of that and say, well, we wonder if all of them are problems in another fashion because they're all in this secret file.

Isn't it interesting that they also are now saying that we have to see all of these?

When the entire thing is about national security.

If you want national security, you can't release all of a president's phone calls.

I'd say that about Barack Obama or anybody else.

If you have evidence of something

and you have

a reasonable expectation to find it, then go for it.

But what's happening is they're going to start exposing all of these conversations with the world leaders, and no world leader is going to want to talk to our president.

You're not going to get real conversations happening if they think that they can just be exposed all the time.

There has to be secrecy with the president.

Barack Obama, George Washington, whoever it is,

they must have assurance that my phone call is not going to be ratted out in some sort of scandal here for no reason at all

because I talked to the president of the United States.

I mean, think about this.

I would love to have the details of every conversation Barack Obama ever had with a foreign leader.

Can you imagine what we'd learn from that?

How about just the ones in Turkey?

Oh, my gosh.

But we acknowledge the president of the United States has to have room to have frank conversations that we are not given every detail of.

That's not, maybe for historical sense, 30, 40, 50 years, learn those things.

I want records of everything.

Sure, but that is not something that we are going to get in real time, nor should we.

Right.

So

let me change the subject here slightly.

uh i want to hear from you right now we're going to take phone calls right after the show and i want to know from you

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Welcome to the program.

I am so glad that you have tuned in today.

It's a big week.

And, And,

you know, what do you think of the ⁇ I didn't have time to look into the Nancy Pelosi

expediting this thing and making sure that impeachment is moving faster.

Did you have a chance to look into that at all?

So many things going on.

That one I don't have my hands wrapped around yet.

I mean, it's really...

It's tough because it's going into these weird areas.

And as we found out with the Mueller report, which is where we kind of started this a few minutes ago,

let's sit at reality for a minute.

The Democrats want this whether it's true or not, right?

Yes.

They want this to be true whether it is true or not.

They are going to start an impeachment inquiry.

In that inquiry, we're going to see the best cases of both sides, and we'll be able to make our determination as citizens, as voters.

So the idea that we have to jump on to every single claim and have a definitive answer that day, number one, is probably not the best way to get to the truth anyway.

But number two is

unnecessary.

We saw this with the Mueller report.

People lived and died every day trying to figure out every little claim and rumor and report and fake op-ed and whatever it was in the New York Times.

And at the end of the day, we saw what the Mueller report said, which was there was no evidence of collusion whatsoever.

And we're not going to, you know, in three days from now, four days from now, we're not going to solve this.

What we're going to do is lay out the narratives.

We're going to lay out.

What we know now.

What we know.

Right.

And it's enough to say, okay, you want to continue looking at Donald Trump?

Fine, look at Donald Trump.

But you should also look here.

And this is perhaps why people are freaking out

because of the narrative that we will lay out.

And we will have it a fact-based narrative.

We're not going to have all of the documents and everything else, but we will show you the documents and tell you what we do know for sure.

What people, not anonymous sources, what people are on record and putting in sworn testimonies in.

What do we really know?

For instance, I find it really fascinating.

I think there's a lot on this Manafort, Tony Podesta thing.

I'm fascinated by that one.

Yeah.

It bothered me.

It bothered you, I think, too, at the same time, that Manafort, the day he was fired and they went after Manafort, Tony Podesta just shut up shop.

Like this is one of the most profitable and influential lobbying institutions in Washington.

Right.

And it was like, ah, closed for business.

Like literally in a day.

Like, ah, we're thinking about it.

I mean, it even took Harvey Weinstein how long?

Yeah.

This was, we're closed.

And

we're going to show you some reasons on why that probably happened.

But I want to hear from you.

What do you want to know?

What is important to know?

How can we help you this week?

Because we all have to come together and we all have to work together.

And that's not to excuse the president.

That's not just to fight for this president.

It's to fight for the truth.

Fight for the truth.

And as long as the people that we support are in the circle of truth, then fine, fine.

But you're,

it's very hard to find the truth these days.

We'll try to help you do that.

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