Nothing but Rumors: If Trump’s the Criminal, Where’s the Crime? | Guest: Michael Rectenwald | 9/30/19

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Speaker 31 Another big claim of the whistleblower fell away this weekend, and while the media is not making a big deal out of it, they just stopped reporting it.

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Speaker 69 Now,

Speaker 85 there's a couple of things.

Speaker 6 First of all, the whistleblower came out last week and he said that

Speaker 109 Trump said at least eight times that he needed a big favor and he wanted Rudy Giuliani.

Speaker 110 That's not true.

Speaker 22 He brought Rudy Giuliani up twice and the president of the Ukraine was the first one to bring him up, not Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 He also said

Speaker 19 that

Speaker 29 what was the other one that was just debunked this weekend?

Speaker 116 I mean, this is a central part of the whistleblower complaint, which is to say that,

Speaker 118 look, there is a

Speaker 116 this particular transcript of this call was hidden.

Speaker 2 This is the biggest.

Speaker 96 It was moved over to a super secret vault.

Speaker 119 Exactly.

Speaker 116 And that was, if you read the actual report, which we have, you see that really what it is, is an outline of publicly available information, like things Rudy Giuliani said on television, things the president tweeted, all that's in there, with a couple of additions.

Speaker 116 I've heard there's a call with Ukraine where this was discussed, and the transcript was moved to the super secret place to hide it. So that shows that they knew it was something bad.

Speaker 116 That is central to the argument of the whistleblower case.

Speaker 34 Already,

Speaker 116 this is Monday. When did this thing come out?

Speaker 8 Thursday?

Speaker 116 We're only on Monday of the next week. And already, that point by the mainstream is already accepted by the mainstream media that, well, no, they were doing that with all the transcripts.

Speaker 116 They were doing that with all the transcripts because, as you might remember, the Mexico and Australia calls with the president were leaked to the media. So they,

Speaker 116 to fight those leaks, pulled all these transcripts and started putting them in a super secret vault.

Speaker 116 So this whistleblower didn't realize that or didn't put it together or the rumors they heard didn't include that information. And so they made it a central part of their case to say, look,

Speaker 116 this was secret. That shows it was a problem because it was hidden behind this super secret vault.

Speaker 116 The media has already accepted the Trump administration position on this, which is, oh, actually, they were doing it because of these initial early leaks.

Speaker 81 What's incredible is this whistleblower has zero credibility.

Speaker 43 Zero.

Speaker 123 Eight times, he said the president made him a promise.

Speaker 73 He never made him a promise. Asked him for a favor and said, I'm going to hold things back on your defense unless you help me.

Speaker 127 He never said that.

Speaker 73 Nothing like it.

Speaker 95 The media had to edit out 543 words between

Speaker 86 I have a favor and also

Speaker 10 Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.

Speaker 128 Had to edit out

Speaker 86 about 540 words.

Speaker 39 The guy has no credibility.

Speaker 97 Now we find out that the super secret vault is something they do with all of the phone calls.

Speaker 24 This is why you don't take second-hand knowledge.

Speaker 46 But let me give you something else that just broke this weekend.

Speaker 125 We don't know when,

Speaker 70 but the intelligence community in the last few months secretly eliminated the requirement that whistleblowers provide direct first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings.

Speaker 130 Now this was the intelligence community

Speaker 125 that changed their form

Speaker 133 and this wasn't uploaded until September 24th, 2019 at 4.25 in the afternoon.

Speaker 28 That is just days before the anti-Trump complaint was declassified and released to the public.

Speaker 63 The markings on the document state that it was revised in August 2019, but no specific date of revision is disclosed.

Speaker 55 So the document was revised in August of this year by the intelligence community.

Speaker 72 Then it was only told to the public just a couple of days before this whistleblower report came out.

Speaker 119 Now,

Speaker 63 what was the claim from the media?

Speaker 38 That Donald Trump was trying to hold this whistleblower report back, and all of these things were always reported to Congress.

Speaker 94 Wasn't that

Speaker 137 the case?

Speaker 46 That these always went to Congress.

Speaker 50 No whistleblower in the history of whistleblowers, no whistleblower has ever been held back from Congress.

Speaker 138 Okay.

Speaker 81 The IG

Speaker 90 report talks about how this guy, the attorney, the investigator general, had to look at it and say, well, this guy,

Speaker 123 he doesn't have any first-hand knowledge.

Speaker 7 So, no, I'm not going to give this to Congress.

Speaker 141 That's Donald Trump trying to stop this investigation.

Speaker 72 I want you to listen to what it used to say

Speaker 62 up until this whistleblower.

Speaker 5 It says,

Speaker 42 first-hand information required.

Speaker 128 Now, this is the form that if you have, if you're a whistleblower, you have to fill out.

Speaker 52 And on

Speaker 83 page 8, it said, first-hand information required.

Speaker 28 Here's the explanation.

Speaker 145 In order to find an urgent concern credible,

Speaker 39 the ICIG must be in possession of reliable first-hand information.

Speaker 49 The ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee's second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.

Speaker 5 This information includes any information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he or she witnessed some sort of wrongdoing.

Speaker 2 Anyone with first-hand knowledge of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with the ICIG.

Speaker 147 ICIG.

Speaker 97 Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient legal basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA.

Speaker 65 If you think that wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than second-hand or unsubstantiated assertations or assertions, the ICIG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA.

Speaker 129 Could it be more clear?

Speaker 150 You cannot do this.

Speaker 100 Why?

Speaker 32 Well, we know why, because we have now an impeachment hearing based on a guy who said, the president said at least eight times, the president made a promise.

Speaker 46 He said that he was going to withhold things unless

Speaker 128 the

Speaker 49 transcript was held in a super secret vault because they never do that and there was nothing classified in this.

Speaker 154 So why did they do it?

Speaker 155 He's hiding something.

Speaker 132 All of those assertions have been wrong.

Speaker 119 All of them.

Speaker 97 Why? Because this isn't the guy's job.

Speaker 46 This guy is not in line here.

Speaker 86 He heard other people talk about it.

Speaker 55 So it's nothing to do with his job.

Speaker 85 The reason why the intelligence community doesn't listen to whispers is because how many times in your life have whispers about you been right?

Speaker 59 Our intelligence community requires people who are not dealing in rumors.

Speaker 130 Imagine we go to war because there's rumor of things and no one has first-hand knowledge.

Speaker 63 Oh, I know.

Speaker 156 You know what's weird?

Speaker 13 Kind of like when we went into Iraq saying that there were chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction.

Speaker 73 What was the left screaming for?

Speaker 87 They were screaming for evidence.

Speaker 116 Maybe considerably more evidence on that than we do on this.

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 116 Yeah, I mean, look, when you're talking about second-hand information like this, maybe that's good enough for a tweet, but it's good enough for a whistleblower report. I don't think so.

Speaker 116 And one of the things that some on the right are saying is we need to know who this person is. We need to interview them.

Speaker 28 We need to know what they know.

Speaker 8 Oh, that's putting him in danger.

Speaker 15 President might kill him.

Speaker 100 Right. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 116 By the way, that was reported by, I think, 60 Minutes that the whistleblower is getting death threats, and that's why they're under witness protection.

Speaker 116 Seems like the whistleblower's own attorney is disagreeing with that and calling out 60 Minutes on that leak.

Speaker 116 But beyond all that, what is the value of talking to this person?

Speaker 159 Well, who cares?

Speaker 120 He's just reporting secondhand information.

Speaker 43 No, no, no, no. Listen,

Speaker 130 in the report, his own report,

Speaker 22 he says, I have received information from multiple U.S.

Speaker 89 government officials.

Speaker 65 He also says officials have informed me.

Speaker 69 Officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me.

Speaker 7 The White House officials who told me this information.

Speaker 72 I was told by White House officials, the officials I spoke with.

Speaker 22 I was told that a State Department official.

Speaker 132 I learned from multiple U.S.

Speaker 51 officials.

Speaker 65 One White House official described this act.

Speaker 55 Based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me,

Speaker 113 I also learned from multiple U.S.

Speaker 51 officials.

Speaker 149 The U.S.

Speaker 22 officials characterized this meeting.

Speaker 70 Multiple U.S.

Speaker 13 officials told me.

Speaker 80 I learned from U.S. officials.

Speaker 42 I also learned from a U.S. official.

Speaker 51 Several U.S.

Speaker 15 officials told me.

Speaker 36 I heard from multiple U.S.

Speaker 28 officials. And multiple U.S.

Speaker 5 officials told me.

Speaker 49 So he only says that, I don't know anything myself.

Speaker 129 Right.

Speaker 116 So is it digging for the sources?

Speaker 159 Is that the value of talking to this person?

Speaker 40 I know.

Speaker 7 There's no reason to talk to this person.

Speaker 141 There's no reason to listen to this person.

Speaker 48 The only reason why we know this story is because, and if you want to talk about deep state,

Speaker 125 then the intelligence community should stop doing these things.

Speaker 47 If you don't want people thinking there's a deep state, then the intelligence community should stop in the cover of night sometime in August of 2019 that's just about a month and a half ago

Speaker 127 sometime in August

Speaker 70 they changed the whistleblower requirements

Speaker 27 now I just read that paragraph to you about how you cannot be getting giving secondhand now it just says question three

Speaker 106 I know about the information I'm disclosing here and you check the box.

Speaker 119 I have direct and personal knowledge, or I heard about it from others.

Speaker 101 Why would you change that?

Speaker 101 Why would you change that?

Speaker 46 Unless you're just trying to get rumors out,

Speaker 70 which is weird because that's what the Democrats did with the Russia file.

Speaker 72 And everybody said we've got to impeach him right away.

Speaker 157 And then there was an investigation, and what turned out?

Speaker 73 Nothing.

Speaker 130 This is the same story over and over and over again.

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Speaker 20 Oh, by the way, just one other thing.

Speaker 28 We dug up this weekend.

Speaker 63 A message from the President of the United States transmitting the treaty between the United States of America and Ukraine on mutual legal assistance in criminal

Speaker 124 matters.

Speaker 157 So, this was sent by

Speaker 90 Bill Clinton,

Speaker 167 and in it,

Speaker 51 we can request the help of the Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian legal system to investigate things in their country that we have crimes, even we think are crimes, even if they're not crimes

Speaker 42 in Ukraine.

Speaker 66 And same with us.

Speaker 15 Isn't that fascinating?

Speaker 116 Again, I think a lot of this just comes down to whether you think... There's possibly any positive

Speaker 116 reason for us to investigate the things going on with not only Joe Biden, but other things in Ukraine.

Speaker 116 If you think that, like, well, well, people keep saying it so simply. It's like, well, he just made a call to Ukraine to investigate and get dirt on his rivals.
It's like, well, wait a minute.

Speaker 168 There's more to that.

Speaker 50 Yes. Now, you might think, you might believe

Speaker 116 Donald Trump actually didn't care about the crimes being committed here. or potential crimes being committed or corruption, you might believe that.

Speaker 116 And you might believe his only motivation is to get dirt on his enemies. And if you don't like Donald Trump, I understand why you might believe that.

Speaker 116 However, you have to also acknowledge that if these things were going on, they are absolutely in the national interest to be investigating.

Speaker 116 So the fact that his political benefits align with national interests on this matter does not mean he committed a crime.

Speaker 22 Could we please play the, I think it's a GOP ad.

Speaker 22 And it's a great ad because the GOP had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 27 It's all coming from people from the New York Times,

Speaker 124 the Washington Post, it's CNN, it's MSNBC.

Speaker 22 Just listen to what they said when they were investigating Joe Biden.

Speaker 111 Listen.

Speaker 170 Was Hunter Biden profiting off his dad's work as vice president, and did Joe Biden allow it?

Speaker 171 Well, I think there's kind of two separate issues here.

Speaker 171 The issue of whether it was wise of Hunter Biden to take this position at Barisma when his father was guiding policy in Ukraine,

Speaker 171 and the wisdom of Biden and Biden's staffers, once they knew knew that not to ask Hunter to step down. I think that is a legitimate subject of scrutiny.

Speaker 173 $50,000 a month for Hunter Biden

Speaker 173 clearly to be selling influence because otherwise no one would ever pay him that kind of money for a company that frankly was pretty corrupt and has been before and has been since understood.

Speaker 173 And is that Joe Biden's fault or problem? No, but it's hard to imagine Joe Biden wasn't aware of it.

Speaker 168 Did Vice President Biden know of his son's role in burisma when he told Ukraine to fire the prosecutor

Speaker 172 at that point

Speaker 175 yes he would have known this situation involving Joe Biden's sons work for this Ukrainian oligarch owned gas company which is I have to quibble with some of what what your previous guest said is a significant liability for Joe Biden like there is a story here does it raise any questions so let's just so there's more but let's just leave it there there is is a story.

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Speaker 31 Another piece of the puzzle that has fallen in.

Speaker 64 Remember, Rudy Giuliani went over at request of Trump to find dirt, and that's why he went over to meet with the the president and

Speaker 52 also the attorney,

Speaker 78 the advisor and attorney, Andre Yermak.

Speaker 7 He went, of course, to meet with those guys because Trump said to.

Speaker 20 Unfortunately, his contact with the advisor and attorney for Zelensky over the summer was encouraged and facilitated by the U.S.

Speaker 77 State Department.

Speaker 73 Giuliani, nor Trump, initiated this.

Speaker 20 A senior diplomat from the U.S.

Speaker 4 contacted Giuliani in July and asked for permission to connect Yermak with him.

Speaker 79 Then Giuliani met in early August with Yermak on neutral ground in Spain before reporting back to the State Department everything that occurred at that meeting.

Speaker 8 The debriefing occurred August 11th by phone with two senior U.S.

Speaker 27 diplomats, one with responsibility for Ukraine, the other responsible for the European Union, according to electronic communication records that have now been reviewed.

Speaker 123 When asked on Friday, Giuliani confirmed that the State Department asked him to take the Yermak meeting, and he did, in fact, apprise U.S.

Speaker 51 officials every step of the way.

Speaker 163 Quote, I really didn't even know who Yermak was, but they vouched for him.

Speaker 22 They actually urged me to talk to him because they said he seemed like an honest broker.

Speaker 77 I reported back to them, the two State Department officials, what my conversations with Yermak were all about. All of this was done at the request of the State Department.

Speaker 77 Hmm.

Speaker 3 Now, why would Ukraine want to talk to Giuliani, and why would the State Department be involved in facilitating it?

Speaker 33 What is happening?

Speaker 4 There's another pillar that is falling down.

Speaker 177 According to interviews with more than a dozen Ukrainian and U.S.

Speaker 37 officials, Ukraine's government under recently departed President Pershenko and now Zelensky had been trying since summer of 2018 to hand over evidence about the conduct of Americans they believe might be involved in violations of U.S.

Speaker 48 law during the Obama years.

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Speaker 179 It is good to be here.

Speaker 8 Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 179 I'm fascinated that the Democrats

Speaker 179 now want, not only have they discovered absolutely nothing in the transcript to Ukrainian President Zelensky, now they want to discover the same nothingness in the phone calls that Trump has made to Putin and other world leaders.

Speaker 179 I mean, is there probable cause to go through every single call he's made to every world leader now?

Speaker 116 I love this argument, though.

Speaker 140 It's classic.

Speaker 116 It's classic. It's like their initial argument was: hey, they moved this to the secret private server because it was such a bad call

Speaker 128 that we know now that they knew it in advance.

Speaker 116 It wasn't true. It was so bad they had to move to the secret server.

Speaker 169 That's proof that our theory is true.

Speaker 116 Now, just three days later, we have the exact opposite.

Speaker 128 They

Speaker 116 were hiding all these calls because of early leaks. Okay, that's now they completely acknowledge that.
A central part of their initial argument, completely acknowledged the opposite is true.

Speaker 116 But now the backup argument is, well, since they were hiding all these calls on the super secret servers, we need access to all of them. Because who knows what we could find in there?

Speaker 137 Right. That's fascinating.

Speaker 15 Can I tell you something?

Speaker 132 People say all the time,

Speaker 51 oh, I don't care if Google spies on me or Facebook has all my records or the NSA has every conversation I've ever had on my pillow with my wife.

Speaker 79 I don't, because I'm not doing anything wrong.

Speaker 176 Really?

Speaker 108 Well, then, why do you think this is wrong that they now would have access to every conversation the president had with every world leader?

Speaker 56 Because

Speaker 152 if you look at this, you know they have the criminal, just not the crime.

Speaker 55 So they've already decided he needs to be impeached, but they just have to find whatever it is that they can impeach him on.

Speaker 129 And look what they're doing.

Speaker 128 The information that they do have, they're stacking all of that information to destroy him.

Speaker 130 This is insane.

Speaker 168 There is no rule of law anymore in America.

Speaker 179 And I love that it's the same people

Speaker 179 who are so troubled about the collusion that is potentially involved here and the security, the national security issue that's involved here with Donald Trump, had absolutely no concern about the little Obama discussion with Medvedev a few years ago when he said this.

Speaker 179 My last election, I believe. Yeah.
After my election, I have more flexibility.

Speaker 179 And

Speaker 179 I transmit this information to the Legion of Energy Standards.

Speaker 159 And what were they talking about there?

Speaker 8 They're talking about U.S. missile deployment.

Speaker 179 So you're going to have more flexibility to do what when you're not up for re-election ever again.

Speaker 8 What are you going to do? Remove all our missiles?

Speaker 179 To me, that's a gigantic national security issue.

Speaker 180 Nobody care at all

Speaker 34 at all about that. Nobody cared.

Speaker 8 That wasn't the least bit interesting to him.

Speaker 7 No, nobody cared.

Speaker 179 And that was far more damning than anything that Trump has said to Ukraine's president, probably to Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 179 I mean, has he promised them to be flexible about missile deployment after this coming election?

Speaker 8 I don't think so. It's amazing.

Speaker 179 It's amazing. And that guy says it in public,

Speaker 179 caught on microphone, caught on camera, and they didn't care at all.

Speaker 139 Well,

Speaker 105 so what are you going to do?

Speaker 159 That's a really good question.

Speaker 105 What are you going to do?

Speaker 39 Here's what you can do.

Speaker 112 Do not,

Speaker 39 let me say it the way Churchill used to.

Speaker 29 Keep calm and carry on.

Speaker 29 You keep calm and carry on.

Speaker 92 the minute you get angry you will lose the battle

Speaker 113 so keep calm

Speaker 86 and carry on means still fight the battle you've got to fight the battle but keep

Speaker 113 reasonable keep calm keep rational

Speaker 65 don't lose your temper and i know how hard that is But the carry-on part is also really important.

Speaker 49 Because

Speaker 149 here's why we'll lose.

Speaker 17 Because we give up.

Speaker 66 The only time we'll ever lose is when we give up.

Speaker 124 How many times have we said

Speaker 125 to the Republicans, you can win this, but they give up.

Speaker 2 They don't.

Speaker 42 They're too timid. They're afraid.

Speaker 69 They're tired.

Speaker 115 Whatever their excuse, they're losers.

Speaker 128 They give up.

Speaker 102 And they lose every time because they give up.

Speaker 78 If we give up on this,

Speaker 139 we're done.

Speaker 65 And when I mean we're done, I mean those who appreciate justice, law and order, the Constitution, the free market.

Speaker 161 The minute we give up, we're done.

Speaker 179 And it's really hard not to because you get so sick of it. You know, we, we, we've got short attention spans, and we get tired of hearing the same thing over and over and over and over and over.

Speaker 179 And it was was so predictable when they released a transcript that Republicans were going to say there's nothing there, which I agree with, and the Democrats are going to say it's very, very troubling.

Speaker 179 It's a major, this is

Speaker 179 cemented in our minds that we've got to proceed with impeachment.

Speaker 182 What?

Speaker 179 So you're both looking at the same thing and seeing the opposite.

Speaker 100 Impeachment, it's required that impeachment is

Speaker 40 a reflection of public sentiment.

Speaker 55 So if you're not actively fighting it, the press, because it is so overwhelming, did we, I don't know if we cut this piece from,

Speaker 9 what's his name?

Speaker 100 Robert De Niro.

Speaker 123 Did you see him on CNN?

Speaker 159 Okay.

Speaker 143 What was crazy was what he actually said.

Speaker 123 Thank God for CNN.

Speaker 99 You know,

Speaker 102 they were talking about how crazy and how dangerous Fox is.

Speaker 52 And

Speaker 82 he said, this is just insane.

Speaker 42 And thank God for you guys.

Speaker 108 I mean, if it wasn't for you and just a couple of others,

Speaker 122 MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post.

Speaker 131 I mean, like,

Speaker 8 CBS,

Speaker 130 I mean, the NBC.

Speaker 98 Every major media.

Speaker 159 Every major media.

Speaker 30 Movies.

Speaker 159 TV.

Speaker 70 What do you mean if it wasn't for you?

Speaker 159 You guys have all of them.

Speaker 43 You have all of them.

Speaker 116 Right. And I think,

Speaker 116 it's important to draw a distinction between what you're saying we need to keep fighting this and also maintaining the idea that I don't want to fight for a president who did something wrong.

Speaker 116 If information comes out that proves that he has, he did something impeachable, I will want him impeached.

Speaker 120 Me too.

Speaker 116 Like he is not, he does not get an auto defense from any of us. Nope.
But what he does get is a fair defense. And here, what we have seen is there are parts of this that you can say you don't like.

Speaker 116 You know, we talked to John Solomon about

Speaker 116 Biden last week when this was all happening. And one of the things he brought up was

Speaker 116 one of the standards when you're talking about international relations on this level, talking about Biden and Ukraine, is to avoid not just corruption, but the appearance of corruption.

Speaker 116 And that's a line I think Donald Trump could honor a little bit better.

Speaker 8 You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 116 these are not only causing

Speaker 116 problems to his presidency, but these are standards that have been long adopted by the intelligence community and

Speaker 135 our government.

Speaker 116 And he should think about those things a little more carefully, right? Like the idea that, and people are like, oh, well, we found out about this call.

Speaker 116 Well, Rudy Giuliani was on television saying he was doing these things months ago. He's been saying it on television.
This is not something they were hiding.

Speaker 116 But it's a good idea to try to avoid those lines when it's at all possible. And I think that would probably be something that the president could do better.
But

Speaker 116 the media has jumped 1,000 paces past this.

Speaker 116 They've gone further than we ever went on Joe Biden. When we were talking about Biden and these things, we said, look,

Speaker 128 these are really,

Speaker 116 at the very least,

Speaker 116 the impression of corruption is all over the place. And it looks very much like there was corruption going on.
However, we need more information and we don't have enough yet.

Speaker 116 The media does not go there. The media just jumps immediately to this is impeachable.
Can you believe this ever happened?

Speaker 116 And so we need to be loyal to our own lines here of making sure we don't just give the president a pass on everything.

Speaker 3 I'm not interested in that at all.

Speaker 120 Exactly.

Speaker 33 I don't think anybody in this audience is.

Speaker 20 It makes me really, really angry when people say, you sold out to the president.

Speaker 183 You're now supporting him.

Speaker 4 I will support anyone I think is on the right side of the law.

Speaker 72 I would do this with Barack Obama.

Speaker 33 It would make me miserable to do it.

Speaker 135 And it would make me miserable to give the Democrats a win year.

Speaker 31 But if they had evidence, if you don't think this program would tell you the truth and say, guys, I'm sorry, he's got to go.

Speaker 53 I mean, remember, during the election, I said you're going to have nothing but impeachment hearings over and over and over with this guy.

Speaker 141 And it could be that he's impeached before the end of his first term.

Speaker 153 So I saw this one coming.

Speaker 8 However,

Speaker 4 this is not right.

Speaker 46 If you want, that was my

Speaker 5 feeling was this guy's going to be so out of control.

Speaker 128 He will do things.

Speaker 73 Well, we haven't found them.

Speaker 53 When we first did the Russia thing, I thought we'd find it.

Speaker 162 I really did.

Speaker 91 I thought he did that.

Speaker 2 Of course, he did that.

Speaker 129 Well, it turns out he didn't.

Speaker 111 I was wrong.

Speaker 139 All right.

Speaker 5 We were all open to, oh, geez, did he really do that?

Speaker 65 Did he ask for favors?

Speaker 5 And did he then say, I'm going to tie this to that?

Speaker 51 And I'm going to promise you this if you get this dirt.

Speaker 163 That's not what he said.

Speaker 31 If it was, we would be there for impeachment.

Speaker 45 That's not what happened.

Speaker 143 This is a,

Speaker 157 I've not been somebody who has talked to you about deep state in a way where it's like the deep state.

Speaker 99 They're all meeting and they're all getting together.

Speaker 163 And they're.

Speaker 125 I'm telling you now, this is the State Department and the intelligence community that is doing this.

Speaker 22 This is the evidence of deep state.

Speaker 152 And every Republican, every Democrat, every Independent should care.

Speaker 150 I don't care what happens with Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

Speaker 128 I do care what happens to our country.

Speaker 144 And we are becoming Ukraine.

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Speaker 1 Can I do it?

Speaker 185 Can I do it?

Speaker 175 Lord,

Speaker 29 give me the strength.

Speaker 22 Give me the strength to listen to about 35 seconds of Hillary Clinton this weekend on Sunday Sunday morning, CBS.

Speaker 11 Listen.

Speaker 172 I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president. He knows.
He knows that there were a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out the way it did.

Speaker 172 And I take responsibility for those parts of it that I should. But Jane, it was like applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to a corrupt human tornado.

Speaker 172 And so I know that he knows that that this wasn't on the level. I don't know that we'll ever know everything that happened, but clearly we know a lot and are learning more every day.

Speaker 172 And history will probably sort it all out. So of course he's obsessed with me.
And I believe that it's a guilty conscience in so much as he has a conscience.

Speaker 129 He doesn't think of you, Hillary.

Speaker 168 He doesn't.

Speaker 148 When he obsesses over the election, it's not about Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 13 It's about the corruption of the Democrats and the way they played.

Speaker 8 He's not.

Speaker 146 Hillary, you were the worst candidate in my lifetime and maybe in several Bech generations.

Speaker 128 I mean, my shoe could have beaten you.

Speaker 92 There's no mystery here.

Speaker 115 Yeah, that's why you lost.

Speaker 70 That's why she lost.

Speaker 119 She's horrible. She was horrible.

Speaker 116 Further than I've heard her go, though, she's saying the election was not legitimate. Remember the big complaint before the election was that Donald Trump was going to say it wasn't legitimate? Yes.

Speaker 116 Do you remember this? Yes.

Speaker 116 Do you remember how the press spent weeks talking about what a scary thing it was that one of a major presidential candidates would say, dare say that if they lost, the other side

Speaker 120 cheated? Yeah.

Speaker 116 Right? Yeah. This is what she's saying.
She's saying, we don't know how, but we think he cheated. That's not how you accuse someone of a major crime.

Speaker 48 Well, it was the deal of the media.

Speaker 70 They're claiming that the birth certificate stuff claimed that he was an illegitimate president. Well, yeah, that's exactly what it was.

Speaker 76 And you had a problem with it.

Speaker 90 And that's why we didn't report on it.

Speaker 121 I mean, we did our homework on it, and we found it to be a valid birth certificate.

Speaker 50 But those people who kept going with the non-valid birth certificate, look, it could have been changed.

Speaker 20 I bet it was CIA that changed it.

Speaker 120 Good God.

Speaker 168 They're doing the same thing.

Speaker 136 This is just their birth certificate thing.

Speaker 96 But

Speaker 81 here's the problem.

Speaker 96 With the birth certificate.

Speaker 97 The president could have done, he could have solved that right away.

Speaker 22 He could have released that thing right away, but it helped Obama.

Speaker 90 It helped him because it made anybody who was opposed to him, they could throw him into birther categories where I wasn't a birther, you weren't a birther, but we were birthers.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 116 It was a handy way to demean his enemies.

Speaker 70 Correct.

Speaker 71 Okay, so that's why they kept that thing going for as long as they did.

Speaker 119 Now,

Speaker 132 what are they doing here?

Speaker 47 With the birth certificate, it was Obama's prerogative to release that certificate whenever he wanted.

Speaker 31 He held it back.

Speaker 81 This

Speaker 136 is not only a false claim, this is what they did.

Speaker 136 This is what they did.

Speaker 22 Oh, he was involved in Russia.

Speaker 73 Let me give you some new information now on the Ukraine scandal

Speaker 46 with the DNC.

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Speaker 151 Biden and Ukraine.

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Speaker 21 And then Thursday night at 8:30 Central Time, 9:30 Eastern, we are going to do a special, Ukraine, the Democrats Russia.

Speaker 71 Now, why are we calling it the Democrats Russia?

Speaker 92 When John Solomon was doing his research on the

Speaker 13 Russian

Speaker 1 collusion story, what, about a year and a half ago.

Speaker 58 He had gone over to the Ukraine because some of the information was coming from the Ukraine.

Speaker 113 And

Speaker 39 so when he's looking at it, he was asking for the Ukrainians to help.

Speaker 71 Did it come from you?

Speaker 33 Where was it?

Speaker 13 Were the Democrats involved?

Speaker 90 So he was satisfied that Donald Trump was not involved with Russia and that he had not colluded with Russia to get dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 28 The last thing that this source in Ukraine said to John Solomon was when John said, Okay, so there's really nothing to see here.

Speaker 124 The guy looked at him and said, shook his head and said, You don't get it.

Speaker 73 Ukraine

Speaker 20 is the Democrats, Russia.

Speaker 37 Everything that they said Donald Trump was doing, they were doing in Russia.

Speaker 70 And the evidence is a little overwhelming at this point.

Speaker 148 Imagine what could happen and the evidence you could get if you're looking for it.

Speaker 71 Let me give you a couple of things.

Speaker 121 First,

Speaker 43 Chris Murphy

Speaker 71 from Connecticut, he's a Democrat from Connecticut,

Speaker 40 he called or went over to Zelensky and he wanted to make sure that

Speaker 7 the new Ukrainian president knew exactly what the deal was.

Speaker 151 Now, he spoke to him in, I believe, August.

Speaker 20 I don't have the date in front of me.

Speaker 92 While choosing his words carefully, this is from John Solomon.

Speaker 48 Murphy made clear by his own account that Ukraine currently enjoyed bipartisan support for U.S.

Speaker 7 aid, but that could be jeopardized if the new president acquiesced to a request by President Trump to investigate past corruption allegations involving Americans, including Joe Biden.

Speaker 176 What is that?

Speaker 130 Can somebody help me on that?

Speaker 143 What is that?

Speaker 125 Did he not just threaten aid?

Speaker 48 Murphy boasted after the meeting that he told the new Ukrainian leader that the U.S.

Speaker 97 aid was his country's most important asset, and it would be viewed as election-meddling and disastrous for long-term U.S.-Ukrainian relations to bend to the wishes of Donald Trump.

Speaker 157 Quote, I told Zelensky that he should not insert himself himself or his government into American politics.

Speaker 31 I cautioned him that complying with the demands of the president's campaign representatives to investigate a political rival of the president would gravely damage U.S.-Ukrainian relationship.

Speaker 178 There are a few things Republicans and Democrats agree on in Washington these days, and support for the Ukraine is one of them.

Speaker 157 So here's his message:

Speaker 63 Investigate the Ukraine dealings with Joe Biden and his son, and you're not going to get any aid.

Speaker 94 Now,

Speaker 43 that's current.

Speaker 136 So they just did exactly what they accused the president of doing.

Speaker 80 But the president was looking for something else.

Speaker 157 So you have to understand, he is not obsessed with Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 141 She's a loser, and he knows it.

Speaker 152 And he doesn't spend any time thinking about people he thinks are losers.

Speaker 40 What he is thinking about is, and she did it for a reason, he's an illegitimate president.

Speaker 16 She knows that will bother him at night.

Speaker 130 It will bother him in everything he does.

Speaker 122 That will stick to him, and he will make mistakes because he will be so preoccupied with, they're saying I'm an illegitimate president.

Speaker 7 I'm not an illegitimate president.

Speaker 96 So they're trying, she specifically chose those words because she's trying to get underneath his skin, and it will work.

Speaker 8 Now,

Speaker 90 I want to give you a couple of other things

Speaker 53 of what Donald Trump is actually looking for.

Speaker 157 He's not obsessed with Clinton.

Speaker 49 He's obsessed with the DNC's investigation into the Russia thing.

Speaker 155 He's obsessed with that because it didn't happen.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 121 how did this happen?

Speaker 93 He believes he was set up.

Speaker 40 Now, I'm going to give you some clear-cut evidence that that is true.

Speaker 90 This on top of the Biden thing.

Speaker 22 The Biden thing is what everybody's concentrating on.

Speaker 80 That's not what you should focus on.

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Speaker 31 As early as January 2016, the Obama White House unexpectedly invited Ukraine's top prosecutors to Washington to discuss fighting corruption in the economy.

Speaker 84 The meeting, promised as training, turned out to be more of a pretext for the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine's prosecutors to drop an investigation

Speaker 73 into the Burisma Holdings Gas Company that employed Hunter Biden and to look for new evidence in a then-dormant criminal case against eventual Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a GOP lobbyist.

Speaker 82 So this is 2016.

Speaker 150 The Obama administration brings the prosecutors over and says, hey, we got to train.

Speaker 20 We got to work together.

Speaker 1 And oh, by the way, you guys got to stop on that thing.

Speaker 140 U.S.

Speaker 139 officials, quoting,

Speaker 79 kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united.

Speaker 24 Now, this is not like a whistleblower that's saying this, who has secondhand knowledge.

Speaker 28 This is the former political officer in the Ukrainian embassy in Washington who organized and attended the meetings.

Speaker 41 Nazar Kolodensky, Ukraine's chief anti-corruption officer, also

Speaker 73 on the record, said soon after he returned from the Washington meeting, he saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S.

Speaker 40 election.

Speaker 178 The two top Ukrainian officials that released secret evidence to the American media smearing Paul Manafort.

Speaker 134 That's what they were asking for in 2016, the Obama White House, here in the United States, in Washington.

Speaker 158 When they got back, two officials smeared Manafort and released information.

Speaker 152 Now, what's interesting about this is Manafort had a partner.

Speaker 82 Manafort had somebody else doing exactly the same thing, except on the Democratic side.

Speaker 28 And that name is Tony Podesta.

Speaker 136 And if you remember, the day Manafort was arrested, Tony Podesta closed his business, a very successful Washington lobbyist group.

Speaker 143 He closed it and retired.

Speaker 57 Now, why do you think?

Speaker 28 And why hasn't Tony Podesta been asked about anything?

Speaker 20 Why hasn't there been any records released from Ukraine on Tony Podesta?

Speaker 123 The release of the evidence forced Manafort to step down as Trump's top campaign advisor.

Speaker 46 Now, so you know, this just isn't two sources that are saying this.

Speaker 49 A Ukrainian court concluded last December that the release of the evidence amounted to an unlawful intervention in the U.S.

Speaker 70 election

Speaker 136 by the Kyiv government.

Speaker 135 You have that?

Speaker 168 This is more than a whistleblower.

Speaker 129 This is the courts in the Ukraine saying that two members of the government were engaged in unlawful intervention in the U.S.

Speaker 31 election.

Speaker 154 Who was that benefiting?

Speaker 148 That was benefiting Hillary Clinton. Who asked them to do it?

Speaker 63 It was the Obama administration.

Speaker 31 Shortly after the Ukrainian prosecutors returned from their Washington meeting, a new round of Democratic pressure was then exerted on Ukraine, this time via the embassy in Washington.

Speaker 82 Valerity Chali, I don't know how to pronounce the first name, he's the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States, confirmed in a statement issued by his office that in March 2016, a contractor for the Democratic National Committee pressed his embassy to try to find any Russian dirt on Trump and Manafort that might reside in Ukraine's intelligence files.

Speaker 13 The DNC contractor also asked the ambassador's team to try to persuade Ukraine's president, Petro Proshenko, to make a statement disparaging Manafort when the Ukrainian leader visited the United States during the 2016 election.

Speaker 23 The ambassador said his embassy rebuffed both requests because it recognized they were improper efforts to get a foreign government to try to influence the election against Trump and for Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 13 It's easy to see everything that the Democrats accused Donald Trump of doing with Russia, they themselves were doing in Ukraine.

Speaker 27 This is without a government

Speaker 35 investigation.

Speaker 119 This is just good reporting.

Speaker 83 Nellie Orr, the wife of senior U.S.

Speaker 80 Justice Department official Bruce Orr, who we know played a role,

Speaker 162 worked in 2016 as a contractor for Fusion GPS, the same Hillary Clinton-funded opposition firm that hired Christopher Steele, the British spy who wrote the now-debunked dossier linking Trump to Russia.

Speaker 33 Okay, so Nellie Orr

Speaker 90 was the one who was giving the Fusion GPS stuff

Speaker 151 into

Speaker 71 the federal government through her husband, and that got to the Justice Department, the FBI.

Speaker 22 They started an investigation, then they leaked it to the press, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 44 She has now testified to Congress that some of the dirt she found on Trump during her 2016 election opposition research came from a Ukrainian parliamentary member.

Speaker 65 She also said she eventually took the information to the FBI through her husband, another way Ukraine got inserted into the election.

Speaker 130 So, pressure, opposition research, all part of the Democrats' playbook on Ukraine long before Trump ever called Zelensky this summer.

Speaker 101 And as I pointed out in the article here with John Solomon, Chris Murphy from Connecticut is still using that political pressure to influence elections in the United States through Ukraine.

Speaker 62 This is much, much bigger than Joe Biden.

Speaker 122 That is a big part,

Speaker 37 but honestly, a minor role on why you should care.

Speaker 40 This is the Democratic

Speaker 101 National Committee.

Speaker 65 using another intelligence service to influence our elections.

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Speaker 24 give you the narrative of what this scandal is really all about.

Speaker 28 My wife sat with me on the stairs.

Speaker 9 I think it was last, maybe Thursday or Friday,

Speaker 8 and we were getting the kids ready for school the next day and helping finish the homework.

Speaker 11 We were both so exhausted, we just sat on our stairs by the front door.

Speaker 107 And

Speaker 69 she said, okay.

Speaker 161 So tell me what the hell is happening with the impeachment and the Ukrainian thing?

Speaker 33 What's this all about?

Speaker 7 And so, we sat there for a while, and I tried to explain it.

Speaker 2 And that's exactly what I'm going to help you with on Thursday.

Speaker 3 So, if you know anybody that needs to know this, wants to know this, is eager to find out the truth, the narrative has not been put together by anybody yet.

Speaker 39 It's all kind of just bits and pieces here and there.

Speaker 99 And

Speaker 157 a lot is here to show you that this is massive corruption, massive corruption.

Speaker 28 And we have to be aware.

Speaker 91 And I don't care where, really, honestly, I don't think this is going to happen.

Speaker 36 But if it does, if Donald Trump was found to do something impeachable,

Speaker 41 I would be for it.

Speaker 53 If the Republicans were doing this, remember, I was on Paul Manafort

Speaker 13 long before

Speaker 151 he joined Donald Trump.

Speaker 66 We were talking about the corruption in Ukraine long before he was with Donald Trump.

Speaker 92 And we were saying, look at this guy.

Speaker 143 This guy should go to jail. Look at what he's doing.

Speaker 30 We were on that story.

Speaker 59 It doesn't matter who they are, if they're guilty, because this corruption is so deep.

Speaker 5 Exactly everything that the Republic or the Democrats said that Donald Trump did in Russia, they did

Speaker 168 and are still doing in Ukraine.

Speaker 130 And we don't have a republic if this remains.

Speaker 134 For instance,

Speaker 109 one of the things in the phone call that the left made a big deal out of is that he was asking for help, not for Hunter Button, the first thing he asked for.

Speaker 1 What was the first thing he said, you have to find?

Speaker 7 The first thing he said was, you still may be surrounded by really bad guys.

Speaker 111 There is corruption all around you.

Speaker 24 And we think some of those bad guys are still in your circle of advisors.

Speaker 22 And the president said, I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 7 This is the president of Ukraine.

Speaker 108 I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 166 And no, sir, they are not in my circle.

Speaker 12 Well, I want you to be sure because they're really bad guys.

Speaker 123 I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 82 Then he said,

Speaker 73 we are looking for a server.

Speaker 121 Now, what server are they looking for?

Speaker 39 They're looking for the DNC server.

Speaker 62 How dare Donald Trump, how dare him

Speaker 66 tell the Ukrainians to look for a server?

Speaker 7 I'm going to tie this together with one other thing in a second.

Speaker 131 The other thing is, he also said, you have somebody that you talk to me about, and I want you to know I got rid of the ambassador, the US ambassador to the Ukraine I got rid of her so that obstacle is no longer there Okay, what is that obstacle that obstacle was stopping the Ukrainians going into the embassy and saying I have evidence that your government operate operatives are doing bad things here.

Speaker 125 I have information and I have evidence against some people that are coming here to the United States that are interfering in elections, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 121 Why would the DNC have a server in Ukraine?

Speaker 24 Now, this is the one that was hacked.

Speaker 49 Now, why do they have a DNC server in Ukraine?

Speaker 105 Well, wouldn't we like to know?

Speaker 7 So, Donald Trump asked for the server.

Speaker 159 How dare him?

Speaker 80 Yeah, except that's the same server

Speaker 35 that

Speaker 69 James Comey was looking for, that the FBI, the Justice Department, was looking for and couldn't find.

Speaker 22 Remember, they said that server was really, really important for the Russia investigation?

Speaker 132 That's the same server that Donald Trump is looking for.

Speaker 48 So if it was so important that the FBI and James Comey needed it, why is it so bad?

Speaker 150 Because it's going to prove that Donald Trump was guilty, right?

Speaker 72 So why is everybody upset that he's asking for this server?

Speaker 73 Why is it so bad that he says, hey, talk to our attorney general

Speaker 81 about this server?

Speaker 45 Can you find it?

Speaker 66 Donald Trump, why would he want the server that was going to prove what he did in Russia?

Speaker 101 Because the people in the Ukraine, in Ukraine, have been trying to get things to the United States, but they were blocked by the DNC.

Speaker 63 They were blocked by operatives in intelligence, in justice, and in the embassy.

Speaker 134 I don't know about you, but I'd sure like to see what's on that DNC server.

Speaker 132 And if it implicates Donald Trump, then it implicates Donald Trump.

Speaker 48 If it implicates the DNC, then it implicates the DNC.

Speaker 40 There's one other thing that came out that we talked about last

Speaker 187 hour that that

Speaker 142 I can't emphasize how important this is enough.

Speaker 134 The intelligence community

Speaker 129 did something very, very odd last month.

Speaker 74 And

Speaker 129 if you don't believe that the deep state exists.

Speaker 133 Now, I don't believe in a star chamber. I don't believe people are...

Speaker 30 All right, here's what we do.

Speaker 56 I do believe that there are people that think alike,

Speaker 128 that believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Speaker 176 And to hell with the public.

Speaker 128 The public voted this guy in, but they're stupid.

Speaker 148 We've got to stop it.

Speaker 44 And there are people in the Justice Department.

Speaker 63 There are people in the intelligence community.

Speaker 92 There are people in the State Department.

Speaker 161 There are people even in the White House.

Speaker 8 All right.

Speaker 18 So what is it the intelligence community did?

Speaker 142 I'll give it to you in 60 seconds.

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Speaker 35 use it or lose it month.

Speaker 27 This is when the government has all of its money.

Speaker 7 And if those agencies don't spend that money, then they're not going to get it next year.

Speaker 102 This is how crazy we are.

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Speaker 75 This is the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 90 I want to make this clear.

Speaker 74 We do not know when this law was changed.

Speaker 19 We believe that it was revised.

Speaker 22 This document was revised in 20, sorry, in August 2019.

Speaker 6 So, this last August.

Speaker 141 We know that sometime between May 2018 and August 2019, the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings.

Speaker 46 Now, this implicates the intelligence community.

Speaker 132 Why did the intelligence community quietly and not announce this change and not post this change until September 24th, 2019 at 4.25 p.m.?

Speaker 7 That's when it was uploaded.

Speaker 90 The document was uploaded.

Speaker 123 And now this document is

Speaker 143 something that was released two days before the Trump dossier was released.

Speaker 94 And it is a massive change.

Speaker 104 The change in the document, if you go in and say, hey, I've got a crime, I need the attorney, I need the Inspector General to be able to see this because I think there's a crime going on.

Speaker 144 The document used to say, in order to find urgent concerns credible,

Speaker 89 the ICIG must be in possession of reliable first-hand information.

Speaker 18 The ICIG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employer's second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.

Speaker 41 This includes information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he or she witnessed some sort of wrongdoing.

Speaker 101 Anyone with first-hand knowledge of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with the ICIG.

Speaker 82 Similarly,

Speaker 35 speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient legal basis to meet statutory requirements of the ICWPA.

Speaker 168 So when the Democrats said no whistleblower has ever been held back

Speaker 24 Until this one.

Speaker 40 Well, yes, because until right now,

Speaker 70 whistleblowers had to be first-hand.

Speaker 46 They had to be somebody who was a witness, who had first-hand knowledge.

Speaker 4 This whistleblower does not have first-hand knowledge.

Speaker 59 Well, this president, he held him back.

Speaker 138 Hmm.

Speaker 150 No, it looks like the intelligence community changed their disclosure of urgent concern form.

Speaker 161 And they did it

Speaker 31 probably

Speaker 142 in August of 2019 and then released it in September of 2019, just a couple of days before all of this stuff came out.

Speaker 13 And that form

Speaker 27 now reads, I know about information that I'm

Speaker 35 disclosing here and check check this box.

Speaker 16 I have direct and personal knowledge, or I heard about it from others.

Speaker 143 We have always had

Speaker 112 whistleblowers have to have first-hand knowledge.

Speaker 13 We're not chasing ghosts or rumors, first-hand knowledge.

Speaker 101 They just changed that for some reason.

Speaker 103 And it was the intelligence community that did that.

Speaker 38 So

Speaker 18 Trump can trust the intelligence community, right?

Speaker 28 You can trust the intelligence community, right?

Speaker 79 Don't you think that's a little coincidental?

Speaker 92 That our standards have been forever first-hand knowledge?

Speaker 119 And right,

Speaker 38 right just days before they let us know, oh, we changed that.

Speaker 69 Why? Why did you change that?

Speaker 49 What possible reason would make you say,

Speaker 123 yeah,

Speaker 124 we want second-hand knowledge?

Speaker 96 You want first-hand knowledge.

Speaker 129 And you come come under the protection of the government when you whistleblow.

Speaker 23 Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 134 Why wouldn't you want to encourage the employees who are standing around doing rumors and say, wait a minute, if that's true, go file right now.

Speaker 128 Come on, I'll go with you.

Speaker 50 Go file right now.

Speaker 162 Why would you have rumors that then could be released to the press that you don't know if they're true or not.

Speaker 84 That's insanity.

Speaker 35 But that's what your intelligence community has just done to the President of the United States.

Speaker 7 Doesn't matter who that president is.

Speaker 75 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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Speaker 85 All right, so we have been talking about how

Speaker 7 Ukraine affected our elections.

Speaker 88 Democrats have been talking about, oh, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Speaker 77 But very few people are talking about Google, Google, Google.

Speaker 22 And Google is the elephant in the room that nobody is paying attention to.

Speaker 33 The digital gulag

Speaker 134 and the simulation of freedom.

Speaker 111 That is the subtitle of Google Archipelago by Michael Rechtenwald.

Speaker 99 Important information.

Speaker 134 Simulation of freedom.

Speaker 32 What does that mean?

Speaker 99 In one minute.

Speaker 75 This is the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 47 Buying or selling a home in a marketplace is a transaction.

Speaker 71 I mean, you wouldn't think that the rules of the best practices would apply any less than any other transaction, right?

Speaker 122 But it does.

Speaker 83 The best practices, those rules, it's not unusual to find real estates that are pretty wildly incompetent out there, who don't even know what best practices are.

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Speaker 29 It's my company.

Speaker 80 The real estate agents who are part of it work according to the principles and standards and the best practices that we have laid out.

Speaker 36 And we found those best practices by hanging out with the 500 best real estate agents in the country.

Speaker 66 We we know that there is a real gift and system, and it takes a long time practicing it to be able to be able to walk into somebody's house, price it right, tell them the information that they need, sell the home, then find a new home in the area that they want to live in, find the right home at the right price, and do all the transactions.

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Speaker 111 Michael Rechtenwald

Speaker 57 is somebody I met, I don't know, about six months ago,

Speaker 188 and I didn't know what to think of the guy.

Speaker 104 He's somebody who was teaching at NYU.

Speaker 40 He had been at the center of

Speaker 21 deconstruction, I think, and

Speaker 52 teaching and

Speaker 22 helping further the ideas of socialism or communism.

Speaker 73 But they were all in theory.

Speaker 59 And when he started seeing people actually do it, he's like, oh, no, wait, this leads to massive death.

Speaker 143 Don't do it.

Speaker 2 And he's really had his eyes opened to the left and now is speaking out in a strong voice.

Speaker 117 Welcome to the program, Michael Rechtenwald.

Speaker 190 Hi, Glenn. Thanks for having me.
Good morning.

Speaker 189 Hey, I want to congratulations on your book.

Speaker 128 It's called Google Arpelago, the Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom.

Speaker 24 I want to start there, Michael.

Speaker 103 What do you mean by the simulation of freedom?

Speaker 190 Well, you know how the Internet gives us the sense that we can go anywhere, do anything, learn anything, and have unlimited roaming capacities.

Speaker 190 You know, that's been the that's been the promise of the Internet

Speaker 190 since its inception.

Speaker 190 Well, it's a simulated freedom That is, it's not really freedom because we're being trammeled, we're being controlled.

Speaker 190 Our searches are being

Speaker 190 basically diverted by Google and other entities, but especially Google for searches.

Speaker 190 So in effect, we don't have the unlimited freedom that we think. We're actually being

Speaker 190 controlled to a great extent by virtue of the algorithms that Google has instituted.

Speaker 90 If everybody, if you're by a computer right now, go to google.com

Speaker 188 and just type in in your search box just the letter A.

Speaker 50 Stu, you doing it?

Speaker 112 What comes up first?

Speaker 116 Amazon.

Speaker 177 Amazon.

Speaker 123 Do you know why Amazon is coming up first?

Speaker 28 You would think, because, well, everybody's searching for Amazon.

Speaker 80 What are you searching for Amazon for?

Speaker 187 How about just going to amazon.com? Why go to google.com to find amazon.com, right?

Speaker 24 Why is it coming up first?

Speaker 35 Because it's their biggest financial partner is Amazon.

Speaker 63 And so whether you're being manipulated because of financial reasons that you don't understand or for political or social reasons, you are being manipulated.

Speaker 180 Indeed.

Speaker 37 So, Michael, you

Speaker 99 talk about new knowledge.

Speaker 44 And before we get into,

Speaker 65 before we get into that with capital letters, there is new knowledge going around.

Speaker 104 And it is, you know, that there is no difference, you know, that men can have babies.

Speaker 69 That's new knowledge.

Speaker 109 Show how we're being manipulated on that.

Speaker 190 Well, I mean, if you type, for example, you just talked about a Google search. If you type in men can, just type in men can.

Speaker 34 Do that, you know,

Speaker 190 the amazing results that you'll get.

Speaker 190 What Google is attempting to do in their worldview is really all demonstrated almost instantly by virtue of this search.

Speaker 28 Show me what it says. It says, this has been exposed.

Speaker 111 You don't have it?

Speaker 9 Do you have it? Men can.

Speaker 116 Let's see. Turst says men can have periods is the number one.

Speaker 138 Okay.

Speaker 116 Men can have babies. Men can have babies now.
Men can think about nothing. Men can get pregnant.

Speaker 94 Okay. Now.

Speaker 95 Go search for

Speaker 15 women can't there, by the way.

Speaker 116 What's that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you have to have a space.

Speaker 63 Now search for women can.

Speaker 22 Michael, tell me the significance of what he just found with men can.

Speaker 190 Well, I mean,

Speaker 190 so one of the things that Google is about is that they are trying to break down what I call social ontologies. And that is, you know, the basic structure or infrastructure of our social order.

Speaker 190 You know, men and women, for example, are the basic constituents of a family, as, you know, for a reproductive family. Well, they don't want the family to exist.

Speaker 190 One of the major arguments of this book is that Google is a leftist authoritarian outfit.

Speaker 190 And they are trying to abolish the family, and that is one of the main constituents that stands between corporate state power and the individual.

Speaker 8 That's quite a statement.

Speaker 177 That's a real statement to make that they're trying to abolish the family.

Speaker 29 Why would they want to do that?

Speaker 190 Because it suits their interests. Their interests are to have no mitigating force between them and the state or the corporate state,

Speaker 190 as it were, because they are really state actors, as I've

Speaker 190 shown in the book.

Speaker 63 All right. Now search for women can.

Speaker 123 Do you have that still?

Speaker 116 Yes. Women can gives you...

Speaker 116 Women can do it.

Speaker 168 Women can vote.

Speaker 116 Women can do anything. Women can fly, which, if true, I'm going to the airlines right away and trying to impose that.

Speaker 116 And then women can be drafted is the last one. But the first four are very positive.

Speaker 70 Women can fly.

Speaker 116 What person is searching for women can fly?

Speaker 169 Right.

Speaker 96 Nobody's searching for that.

Speaker 58 Now,

Speaker 137 you talk, and this is something also that our podcast just from over the weekend with Robert Epstein, he was saying that it's not necessarily the search results.

Speaker 22 It's the drop bound box that makes a huge impact before the search results even get there.

Speaker 2 Can you explain that?

Speaker 190 Yeah, it's the algorithms are actually determining what pre-search results that you're going to get.

Speaker 190 In other words, they're leading you into certain results by virtue of suggesting, filling in the blanks of what you are searching for and giving you the answer for what you're searching for before you even complete the search.

Speaker 190 And this has a great deal. People often just drop down on the box instead of completing their search by typing.
They prefer to let the algorithm fill it in for them.

Speaker 190 The algorithm fills it in and diverts them into the channel that Google would have you go in.

Speaker 22 But if you're not searching for women can fly, is the concept that they're just showing you all positives about women?

Speaker 139 Absolutely.

Speaker 138 Okay.

Speaker 190 Yes, they have this thing called

Speaker 190 algorithmic unfairness. Okay.

Speaker 190 Now,

Speaker 190 that's their definition of what they mean by algorithmic unfairness is unfairness in the world.

Speaker 190 They're not talking about their algorithms being unfair. They're saying that there is an unfairness built into the reality and that they attempt purposely

Speaker 190 to change that unfairness by virtue of altering the results that they give you for your searches to reflect the way the world should be rather than the way it actually is.

Speaker 16 But, Michael,

Speaker 111 yeah,

Speaker 97 because

Speaker 35 your conclusion, new knowledge or does the real exist?

Speaker 109 Nothing in the men's drop-down box, men can have periods, men can have babies, you know,

Speaker 96 those aren't true.

Speaker 38 That's not

Speaker 190 they're not true, but they want them to be true.

Speaker 190 They want these things to be true because they are trying to disestablish our stable social ontologies. They are attempting to eradicate eradicate

Speaker 190 any barriers that stand between corporate state power and the individual.

Speaker 180 Okay, so the family is the main one.

Speaker 190 I mean, Karl Marx in 1848,

Speaker 180 with

Speaker 190 Engels, in the Communist Manifesto, one of the 10 points in the platform was to abolish the family. This goes back hundreds of years now.

Speaker 190 And there is no question that Google has interest

Speaker 190 in the abolition of the social ontologies that lead to the family.

Speaker 159 So

Speaker 190 there are policies inside the company that make it very apparent

Speaker 190 and

Speaker 190 there are algorithmic biases

Speaker 190 that are facing outward to the public that make it very apparent.

Speaker 109 You talk about new knowledge, and we've talked about new knowledge being, you know, women can fly and men can have periods, but new knowledge is capitalized, capital N, capital K.

Speaker 99 What is new knowledge?

Speaker 190 There's a company called NewKnowledge.com

Speaker 190 that builds themselves as a disinformation agent, as the leading disinformation agent on the web.

Speaker 190 Now,

Speaker 190 as we've seen with the affair that's going on in terms of the Ukraine issue, anytime they're saying one thing, it's really the opposite. New knowledge

Speaker 190 claims to be the main source for uncovering the Russian bots that were colluding to help Donald Trump win the 2016 election.

Speaker 190 Well, after they submitted their report to the Senate Intelligence Committee,

Speaker 190 they then went on in the 2017 election

Speaker 190 to simulate Russian bots themselves to support the candidacy of Roy Moore. in order to make it look like the Russians were behind his candidacy.
So they create reality.

Speaker 190 Then they spread this news, quote-unquote news, to the news outlets saying that this was happening. They were producing the reality that they were reporting, having reporters report on.

Speaker 190 This is what's going on. This is what new knowledge is.
It's the creation of a simulated reality. And then the reporting on it by news outlets.

Speaker 111 This is unbelievable, Michael.

Speaker 28 I was at a friend's house on Saturday, and

Speaker 188 I walk in and they said, Alexa, living room lights.

Speaker 65 And I said,

Speaker 2 dear God, don't tell me.

Speaker 78 No, you don't have Alexa all throughout everything in your life.

Speaker 119 Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 97 I said, do you have Nest too?

Speaker 76 Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 94 And I said, uh-huh, that's great.

Speaker 79 And I tried to talk to him about, you got to stop that.

Speaker 50 Don't, don't feed that any more information.

Speaker 46 Can you explain to the person who says, but I love this.

Speaker 97 I don't want to have anything to hide.

Speaker 13 As he said, Glenn, if they're coming for me, they're out of everybody else.

Speaker 190 Right. So what do you have a couple things to say about that? First of all, Alexa has been shown to be a biased virtual assistant.

Speaker 190 It is collecting information that leads you to certain conclusions that they want you to draw. So the information is already tilted.

Speaker 190 Alexa is based on tilted algorithms, just like Google search engine is.

Speaker 190 Secondly, Alexa is recording your conversations.

Speaker 190 And with the development of HARPA,

Speaker 190 the Health Advanced Research Project Agency, which is an analog of DARPA,

Speaker 190 is to be an analog of DARPA.

Speaker 190 This data will be collected, collated, and sent to a central database in order to be interpreted to decide upon certain things about your life. For example, whether you can own a gun.

Speaker 190 And it's not just Alexa, it's Google Home, it's the Google Watch, and it's your television if it's a certain brand, and I won't mention it.

Speaker 131 No, mention it.

Speaker 78 Go ahead, mention it.

Speaker 190 It's Samsung. Samsung's televisions have been shown to be recording

Speaker 190 conversations.

Speaker 191 So,

Speaker 190 and soon it could be a refrigerator. If the Internet of Things becomes

Speaker 190 what it's vaunted to be.

Speaker 190 That is, any appliance in your home, any appliance. I'm talking a washing machine.

Speaker 111 I'm talking hairdryers, everything.

Speaker 190 Hair dryer, a microwave.

Speaker 190 I'm looking around my apartment here.

Speaker 190 A refrigerator.

Speaker 159 Blender.

Speaker 63 Television, radio, anything that plugs in and has a chip.

Speaker 190 Right. Anything that can be chipified.
Then we'll be in this new Internet of Things, which is IoT, as they call it, the smartification of everything.

Speaker 190 This smartification of everything is basically

Speaker 190 the circumvention of your, what it is, it's the surrounding of yourself with intelligent machinery, which is in effect, a way to fence yourself in to

Speaker 190 be surveilled upon,

Speaker 190 to have all the data in your home recorded and sent to central agencies, to have it collated, et cetera, et cetera. It's a very, very scary proposition.
So

Speaker 34 in the the book, I say, I'm sorry.

Speaker 33 No, go ahead. In the book.

Speaker 190 In the book, in Google Archipelago, I say that soon everything that's happening outside of the home will be recorded and tracked and traced, and much of what goes on inside of the home as well.

Speaker 190 Thanks to this internet of things, the smartification of everything.

Speaker 177 Google Archipelago is the name of the book with Michael Recton.

Speaker 65 Well, more in just a second.

Speaker 94 Let me just say this.

Speaker 149 A lot of Germans said at first, no, it's just like the Boy Scouts.

Speaker 143 It's just like the Boy Scouts.

Speaker 5 The Hitler youth. Yes, it's about Hitler and stuff, but they do a lot of good things.

Speaker 93 And my kids get out and they get fresh air and everything else.

Speaker 77 Well, eventually those kids were taught to report on their parents.

Speaker 161 You don't need the kids to do it.

Speaker 73 Now your Blender will do it.

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Speaker 131 So,

Speaker 8 Michael,

Speaker 108 I just did a podcast

Speaker 104 with Robert Epstein, who I think you know.

Speaker 3 And he is all over Google, and he scared the living daylights out of me and said, Glenn, everything that has happened so far has concerned me.

Speaker 101 Last year, I became

Speaker 181 deeply troubled by it.

Speaker 180 He said, but 2020 is the year of being terrified of what is coming.

Speaker 83 And he believes we are.

Speaker 103 We have either crossed the threshold or about to before it's too late, and we're trapped in what you call a digital gulag.

Speaker 190 Yes, a simulated reality. That is, they're producing news and then

Speaker 190 they're producing reality and then reporting on it as if it's real. And this is really the scariest thing that's going on.

Speaker 190 And then they're going to make anybody that claims the truth to be real to be insane. They're going to declare them insane.
This is

Speaker 190 they're just going to make you out to be a crack spot, some sort of a lunatic, you know, a fringe character. So this is really what's at stake.

Speaker 190 What's at stake is the very value of truth.

Speaker 50 And we don't have people who really understand it here.

Speaker 123 I was talking to someone who is in the know about

Speaker 41 the social scores in China.

Speaker 90 And he said, Glenn, when you talk about it, you don't go far enough.

Speaker 127 He said, everyone's social score is...

Speaker 123 is tied to each other and they can tell if your phone is in proximity of somebody else's phone.

Speaker 95 And if you're talking to somebody who has a lower social score, your social score is affected.

Speaker 159 So

Speaker 31 you get to a point where you're like, dude, I cannot talk to you.

Speaker 66 Don't call me anymore.

Speaker 128 I can't talk to you.

Speaker 190 This is a way of banishing certain people. And particularly, it is in China a way of banishing people whose politics don't line up with the communist

Speaker 190 Chinese Communist Party.

Speaker 93 But isn't that the same thing with us now?

Speaker 155 We're at the beginning to where they are banning voices, political voices, and saying

Speaker 123 you can't play in society.

Speaker 51 What they haven't done yet is taken the next step.

Speaker 190 Right. They haven't done total deletions of the actual individuals, but they're doing digital deletions, which are a lot easier to affect.
Correct. A digital deletion of an individual.

Speaker 190 Basically, when you've made the whole social world dependent upon the digital realm, and then you delete somebody from the digital realm, you've you've effectively socially erased them.

Speaker 180 And that's what happens.

Speaker 28 The name of the book is Google Archipelago, The Digital Gulag and The Simulation of Freedom by Michael Rechtenwald.

Speaker 20 Really, really well done, well researched.

Speaker 181 He's a great writer.

Speaker 29 I can't recommend it highly enough.

Speaker 33 If you are at all concerned about what is happening,

Speaker 189 it's Google Archipelago and it's Michael Rechtenwald.

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Speaker 187 I'm trying to convince Stu to somehow or another die on Thursday's episode, because, you know, might

Speaker 109 bring in an extra, you know, 10,000 viewers or something if he were to die, like in a giant Ferris wheel crash.

Speaker 40 where the Ferris wheel, the bolt breaks, and he's on top of the Ferris wheel.

Speaker 132 And it's like, you know, oh my gosh, it started all the humanity.

Speaker 177 And then he squashed at the bottom.

Speaker 56 It'd be huge.

Speaker 6 He'd be a meme for the rest of your life.

Speaker 192 You know, you're going to die anyway.

Speaker 116 At some point. Right.

Speaker 33 Go out in style.

Speaker 151 Be a meme.

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Speaker 137 Be great.

Speaker 8 Thursday.

Speaker 116 I mean, I guess it would be your attention to this important story.

Speaker 90 Yeah, it would.

Speaker 116 Can we make some sort of analogy like, you know, the Democrats' narrative on Ukraine is.

Speaker 13 I'll come up with something.

Speaker 41 I'll come up with a chalkboard. So we'll get an extra day out of your death.

Speaker 8 Oh, cool. Okay.

Speaker 116 I mean, I don't, there's not, it's not going to be a lot lot of opposition to this idea.

Speaker 159 I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 40 We have a big special coming up three days, nine hours, 55 minutes from now.

Speaker 35 It is

Speaker 6 the special on

Speaker 48 Ukraine and exposing what's really going on and

Speaker 53 showing you the facts that we have.

Speaker 27 We'll have everything on that special.

Speaker 131 I put one rule.

Speaker 94 When in doubt, leave it out.

Speaker 45 If it's in this special, if it's not, if we're not absolutely sure,

Speaker 100 leave it out.

Speaker 151 For instance, there's a story today that we've been reporting on the change in

Speaker 41 the whistleblower documents.

Speaker 146 Now, the left is coming out and saying, no, they made that change in May of 18.

Speaker 115 Well, I said that this morning.

Speaker 3 I've said that a couple of times, that

Speaker 37 we don't know when this came out.

Speaker 177 It may have been as early as May of 18.

Speaker 78 August 19

Speaker 102 is the last.

Speaker 76 And we know that they announced this change publicly September 20th, just a couple of days before all of this story broke.

Speaker 70 But

Speaker 167 what is not in dispute,

Speaker 144 I believe we will know for sure, but what is not in dispute, I believe, is when you look at the two documents, one says, You can't have secondhand knowledge and be urgent and be sent in to Congress right away.

Speaker 119 You can't be part of an urgent report if you have secondhand knowledge.

Speaker 116 Yeah, the paragraph is called first-hand information required.

Speaker 8 Right. And that kind of says it all.

Speaker 73 First-hand information is required.

Speaker 157 That box is no longer on.

Speaker 187 That whole paragraph of, hey, you've got to be firsthand, have first-hand knowledge yourself

Speaker 186 to be able to send this submission in.

Speaker 187 That box is no longer on.

Speaker 6 When they did it, why they did it.

Speaker 5 So what?

Speaker 63 They did it in May of 18.

Speaker 7 Oh, like the intelligence community wasn't already riddled with deep state,

Speaker 24 wasn't already riddled with people that might want to whistleblow for a political reason.

Speaker 94 We know that. Yeah.
We knew that from the Mueller report.

Speaker 116 And Mueller report, I'm glad you brought that up because this is another one of those circumstances where I think it's always a good idea to wait until you understand.

Speaker 116 You know, a lot of times it's like learning about someone else's religion. A lot of times you hear, like, well, they believe this crazy thing.

Speaker 116 And then you kind of hear it in context from someone who actually is in the religion.

Speaker 116 And you're like, all right, well, that makes a little bit more sense and might not be my belief, but okay, I get it. The same thing is happening, I think, a little bit here.

Speaker 116 And for the left of all groups to be preaching to us about this today, when the very whistleblower report we're talking about included the idea that all of these transcripts from the calls were moved to a super secret server.

Speaker 116 That was the main piece of evidence in there. Oh my gosh, they must have known it was a terrible call because they hid it in this fashion.

Speaker 116 Well, the mainstream media, along with everyone else, has already abandoned that now because they now recognize and admit that the Trump administration moved that because of the early leaks in the administration.

Speaker 116 So, again, this is another piece where they are jumping to a conclusion based on

Speaker 116 information that they think they get, right?

Speaker 116 But they, in full context, didn't understand, which they now admit only three days later.

Speaker 72 Which is why, do we have the tape of Chuck Todd this weekend?

Speaker 70 Which is why Chuck Todd said this with a guest.

Speaker 94 Listen to this.

Speaker 3 It's the Chuck Todd.

Speaker 8 The Chuck Todd. Here it is.

Speaker 116 Here it is.

Speaker 174 There are three phone calls, excuse me, two phone calls and one meeting that the president has had with Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 174 Actually, all of them have taken place since the election of the Ukrainian President Zelensky. A phone call on May 3rd, a meeting on June 28th, and a phone call on July 31st,

Speaker 174 which, by the way, six days after the Zelensky phone call in question.

Speaker 174 Do you think you'll ever know the contents of that conversation? Of any of those conversations?

Speaker 87 So what is he saying here?

Speaker 103 In reality, what he's saying is the president has made calls to foreign leaders since then.

Speaker 81 That's what he's saying.

Speaker 46 Since that phone call, he's made calls to foreign leaders.

Speaker 178 If you didn't know the first charge that there is something in this phone call, which they found out there was nothing in that phone call,

Speaker 56 would you care if

Speaker 44 you knew that the president this summer made three phone calls to Vladimir Putin?

Speaker 100 We'd all go, of course he has.

Speaker 1 Of course he's talked to him.

Speaker 57 But now they've insinuated this first call that something was wrong with it, but there wasn't anything wrong with that call.

Speaker 80 So now let's insinuate there's something wrong with these Vladimir Putin calls.

Speaker 143 This is a witch hunt.

Speaker 116 Well, and it's an argument specifically based on the fact that their last argument failed.

Speaker 81 Failed.

Speaker 116 Their first argument was these things were only kept secret because they knew this one call with the Ukrainians was really bad, and that's why they hid it.

Speaker 116 Now they're saying, oh, well, he's hiding all of them. Well, now we have to see all of them because all of them must be bad.
Well, wait a minute. That's you.

Speaker 116 The main piece of evidence in the Whistleblower Blower report is about the fact that this call being classified in this fashion indicates the Trump administration knew it was a problem.

Speaker 116 And now, since all of them are kept this way,

Speaker 116 now you have to back off of that and say, well, we wonder if all of them are problems in another fashion because they're all in this secret file.

Speaker 20 Isn't it interesting that they also are now saying that we have to see all of these?

Speaker 123 When the entire thing is about national security.

Speaker 45 If you want national security, you can't release all of a president's phone calls.

Speaker 111 I'd say that about Barack Obama or anybody else.

Speaker 29 If you have evidence of something

Speaker 113 and you have

Speaker 94 a reasonable expectation to find it, then go for it.

Speaker 133 But what's happening is they're going to start exposing all of these conversations with the world leaders, and no world leader is going to want to talk to our president.

Speaker 53 You're not going to get real conversations happening if they think that they can just be exposed all the time.

Speaker 67 There has to be secrecy with the president.

Speaker 96 Barack Obama, George Washington, whoever it is,

Speaker 178 they must have assurance that my phone call is not going to be ratted out in some sort of scandal here for no reason at all

Speaker 47 because I talked to the president of the United States.

Speaker 115 I mean, think about this.

Speaker 116 I would love to have the details of every conversation Barack Obama ever had with a foreign leader. Can you imagine what we'd learn from that?

Speaker 57 How about just the ones in Turkey?

Speaker 111 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 116 But we acknowledge the president of the United States has to have room to have frank conversations that we are not given every detail of.

Speaker 8 That's not, maybe for historical sense, 30, 40, 50 years, learn those things.

Speaker 76 I want records of everything.

Speaker 116 Sure, but that is not something that we are going to get in real time, nor should we.

Speaker 129 Right. So

Speaker 28 let me change the subject here slightly.

Speaker 89 uh i want to hear from you right now we're going to take phone calls right after the show and i want to know from you

Speaker 55 what is it that you

Speaker 25 need or want to understand or you know want us to look into for this show on thursday we want to get the basics covered and we we are going to show you a narrative and we'll use the chalkboard to explain the timelines and everything else so you really understand

Speaker 35 what this story is about.

Speaker 41 And it's much more than just Joe Biden.

Speaker 31 Now, we've already provided the Joe Biden story.

Speaker 35 Tomorrow, we are going to have on Blazetv.com, we have the Joe Biden in

Speaker 103 Ukraine story. Then on Wednesday, we're doing the Joe Biden in China story.

Speaker 20 Then on Thursday, a special preview of the Ukrainian show.

Speaker 28 Stu will be hosting that and I and the producers and the writers will all be here to talk about what we're going to explain to get people to watch then at 9.30 Eastern on Facebook and on YouTube live our Ukrainian special.

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Speaker 160 Welcome to the program.

Speaker 186 I am so glad that you have tuned in today.

Speaker 23 It's a big week.

Speaker 52 And, And,

Speaker 40 you know, what do you think of the ⁇ I didn't have time to look into the Nancy Pelosi

Speaker 29 expediting this thing and making sure that impeachment is moving faster.

Speaker 27 Did you have a chance to look into that at all?

Speaker 116 So many things going on. That one I don't have my hands wrapped around yet.
I mean, it's really...

Speaker 116 It's tough because it's going into these weird areas. And as we found out with the Mueller report, which is where we kind of started this a few minutes ago,

Speaker 116 let's sit at reality for a minute. The Democrats want this whether it's true or not, right? Yes.
They want this to be true whether it is true or not. They are going to start an impeachment inquiry.

Speaker 116 In that inquiry, we're going to see the best cases of both sides, and we'll be able to make our determination as citizens, as voters.

Speaker 116 So the idea that we have to jump on to every single claim and have a definitive answer that day, number one, is probably not the best way to get to the truth anyway. But number two is

Speaker 116 unnecessary. We saw this with the Mueller report.
People lived and died every day trying to figure out every little claim and rumor and report and fake op-ed and whatever it was in the New York Times.

Speaker 116 And at the end of the day, we saw what the Mueller report said, which was there was no evidence of collusion whatsoever.

Speaker 20 And we're not going to, you know, in three days from now, four days from now, we're not going to solve this.

Speaker 105 What we're going to do is lay out the narratives.

Speaker 8 We're going to lay out. What we know now.
What we know.

Speaker 177 Right.

Speaker 188 And it's enough to say, okay, you want to continue looking at Donald Trump?

Speaker 131 Fine, look at Donald Trump.

Speaker 60 But you should also look here.

Speaker 25 And this is perhaps why people are freaking out

Speaker 184 because of the narrative that we will lay out.

Speaker 35 And we will have it a fact-based narrative.

Speaker 46 We're not going to have all of the documents and everything else, but we will show you the documents and tell you what we do know for sure.

Speaker 139 What people, not anonymous sources, what people are on record and putting in sworn testimonies in.

Speaker 63 What do we really know?

Speaker 20 For instance, I find it really fascinating.

Speaker 7 I think there's a lot on this Manafort, Tony Podesta thing.

Speaker 30 I'm fascinated by that one. Yeah.

Speaker 23 It bothered me.

Speaker 31 It bothered you, I think, too, at the same time, that Manafort, the day he was fired and they went after Manafort, Tony Podesta just shut up shop.

Speaker 116 Like this is one of the most profitable and influential lobbying institutions in Washington. Right.

Speaker 38 And it was like, ah, closed for business.

Speaker 98 Like literally in a day.

Speaker 53 Like, ah, we're thinking about it.

Speaker 33 I mean, it even took Harvey Weinstein how long?

Speaker 130 Yeah.

Speaker 143 This was, we're closed.

Speaker 128 And

Speaker 8 we're going to show you some reasons on why that probably happened.

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Speaker 152 it's very hard to find the truth these days.

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