Chaos is Not in Control | Guests: Bill O’Reilly, John Solomon, & Coletta Kewitt | 9/27/19

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And

we have John Solomon on today.

The reason why he didn't make it yesterday is very clear today.

There is a new article out

that does not bode well for Joe Biden and the Democrats.

And I really want to go over my theory

that you need to know

and also this article.

Yeah, it sounds interesting.

What else is on?

Bill O'Reilly.

Bill O'Reilly is on.

Yeah, is there anything else?

I want to kind of start with the things that the stories that we really haven't talked about.

Yeah, yeah, that'll be great.

What else?

What's on today's show?

Anything else you can think of?

Oh, I know.

Your sister's on today.

She's got a new book out.

It tells all this.

No one told me this.

No one told me.

I know you were trying to get away from her.

You know she had a new book?

I knew she was, and I knew everybody was trying to book her, but today's not a good day.

Oh, you want to cancel?

Is this cancel culture on your own sister?

Is that what we're doing right now?

I mean, she's booked for the interview.

You're trying to cancel your own sister.

Pathetic.

Because you are just going to use my sister.

You and Pat are so excited about this.

You're just going to use my sister.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, Yeah, I know.

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I want to get into the John Solomon article, but I first

want to address something that I think, at least I am feeling, and I think others may be as well.

There is a tremendous amount of things to be worried about.

And

if you are paying attention, it is a little overwhelming.

We are seeing and hearing a tremendous amount of stories all coming at us at the same time.

Let me just give you just a few of the things that have happened just in the last couple of days.

The two most powerful and influential Western democracies in the history of the world are both experiencing nothing short of political coups to remove their democratically elected leaders from office.

office.

The U.S.

House of Representatives, led by Nancy Pelosi, a formal impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, allegedly, and for allegedly, I think, doing his job.

At the same time, we haven't been paying attention to what's happening in the U.K.

The Supreme Court has just ruled that Prime Minister Boris Johnson violated their Constitution by suspending Parliament for five weeks, a move designed to force the Prime Minister to resign from office

and to further the delay on Brexit.

The global economy is swinging dramatically towards a financial crash and recession, with six of the G7 nations now issuing negative yielding government bonds.

In other words, you can invest in those countries, but you're going to get less

than you put in when they give you your money back.

Also, the EU is launching quantitative easing to the tune of $20 billion a month, just pumping cash into the European banking sector.

European banks are in trouble, but how about the U.S.

banks?

We found out yesterday that they currently are requiring $160 billion of cash every single night from the Fed just to meet their cash reserve requirements and operating expenses.

This is basically a day loan enabling them to borrow from Peter to pay Paul via freshly printed cash from the Federal Reserve.

Same time, Saudi Arabia, world's leading net supplier of fuel, of oil and natural gas, suffered serious military attack just a week ago.

50% of their energy production capabilities gone.

The attacks seems to be sponsored by the hardline Islamist fascist within Iran, the world's leading sponsor of global terrorism.

We haven't even talked about Iran for the last few days because we've been so busy with a coup happening here.

Global banks, representing more than $110 trillion in total cash and investment value, recently signed on the UN-backed initiative committing to the so-called environmentally responsible carbon-neutral investment policies, pledging not to provide any lending, banking, or investment services to companies that don't meet the new Green Deal type zero emissions standards.

This move will dramatically hamper any kind of energy production, any kind of mining, forestry, farming, ranching, all around the world, including an estimated $12 trillion in GPS loss to us alone over the next 10 years.

Google announced they're walking through the quantum computing door.

That dramatically will accelerate the capabilities of true artificial intelligence, moving us forward towards the possibility of a singularity event when computers will become self-aware and begin acting independently from their human programmers.

Quietly, the latest financial stability report provided by the Federal Reserve to Congress in it was the fact that the U.S.

student loan default rates have soared to almost 10% of all federal loans, and they're now in default.

Over 27%

of the loans are delinquent, meaning

in the least that 30 days late in making these payments.

However, both of these numbers are higher and worse than they were in the Great Depression.

I could go on.

Bernie and Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax, Beto and Warren's gun confiscation, Yang's universal basic income, AOC's Green New Deal, the fact that 65% of all Democrats now embrace socialism.

There is so much chaos in the world.

There is so much flux.

There are crisis situations.

We're inundated with these things every single day.

How are we expected to make through this?

How are we exposed to make it?

How are you supposed to deal with it?

How are you supposed to be able to do your everyday and worry about all of that stuff?

Well, I'm going to say something very counterintuitive.

None of this matters.

Don't get me wrong, it does matter because truth matters, justice matters, right and wrong matters, but the chaos is not in control.

The chaos is the noise, and the chaos only matters if we join in to the chaos and help create more chaos by us freaking out,

what if I told you we know exactly how to deal with this?

Because we have the model.

We know exactly what to do.

We know what to do as Americans.

We know that Americans, in the end, are the ones that stand up and save the world.

We know what to do as

conservatives and libertarians.

We know what to do as a Glenn Beck radio audience or a Blaze TV audience.

We know what to do as rational, principled, and virtuous people.

We know what to do because we've been here before.

Yeah, the names and the faces and some of the problems were different.

The supposed crisis is different.

The alleged consequences might have been different.

But the principles are the same.

Our experience on Earth

is one of a recurring theme of original principles versus contextual choices.

Each of us either choose to live by the principles of nature.

Whether you believe the natural world was created by God or not,

there are natural rules.

The natural world exists, and we exist in it.

The natural world, including mankind, is governed by laws that supersede our feelings, our hopes, our wishes, our fears.

If we just follow those laws and align our values to those eternal natural laws, we will find success and happiness.

If we deny man's nature and our place in nature,

if we continue to violate the laws of nature, we are only going to find failure and misery.

It doesn't matter what the crisis is.

It doesn't matter who the bad guys are this time around.

If we live to the true principles that we all have always known were true and correct, then virtue will prevail.

What happened to innocent before proven guilty?

Trump may be guilty of a lot.

He may be guilty of being a jerk.

He may be a bad actor.

He may have orange skin.

He's definitely guilty of having weird ass hair.

But when we're dealing with the highest office in the land, how is it that guilty until proven innocent has taken over our national mentality?

That's the highest.

If this guy is guilty before being proven innocent, what do you think happens to you or your children when they grow up?

What message are we sending to our sons and daughters?

What message are we sending to the nations of the earth who look towards us as an example of truth and justice and freedom and liberty.

Yeah, I know the political people, they don't look at us like this.

All the people that want chaos in the world, they don't look at it like this.

But all of the people who are enslaved around the world,

all of the people who are hoping for a better life, for just a chance to make it, they still do look at America as that beacon of truth and justice and freedom and liberty.

Wake up to who you really are.

Wake up to what America has always been.

We're not perfect.

We never have been.

But together, we've made it.

Together, with all of our differences, we find one common thing that brings us all together.

And that one common thing is we believe in the freedom of mankind.

We believe in the ability to be different.

We believe you don't have to be connected to be able to have a shot.

You don't have to be born in the right family.

You don't have to have the right name.

Your dad could be a scumbag, and you didn't pay the price.

That's the way it is in the rest of the world.

It has never been like that here, and that's exactly what we're turning into.

This isn't us.

Americans are better better than this

so before we get into all the crap of the day let me just

let me just say this

know who you really are

know who you really are

in the natural world

as an animal

who has to obey natural laws,

and also, for those of you who believe in a God,

that you are a literal son or daughter of God.

We are princes and princesses of an eternal king.

We are not acting like that.

We are not acting like we have any of the rights or the responsibilities that come with being a prince or a princess.

know who you are

and love yourself.

When you know who you are, it's easier to love yourself.

And when you really truly know who you are and love yourself, you become more humble and more kind.

Know and love your family, know and love your neighbors.

The rest

is as it always is,

just noise.

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Now, are you guys going to be nice to my sister?

Oh, my God.

I love your sister.

I know you love my sister.

Be very nice to your sister.

Being nice to your sister, not the concern for you here.

She wrote this.

This is a game-changing book in her life.

She wrote what's called the pie letters.

And much to my chagrin, no recipes are in this book, but it is a book of,

I mean, we had a rough childhood.

And Coletta had a really rough childhood.

And she, you know, she's always been a hippie.

She's older than me, and she's this hippie.

And she

tried to find peace with my mother's suicide, her husband's suicide, and

really kind of just went off on her own and took this journey.

And she didn't think she would, yeah, she didn't know where she was going.

And

she found kindness to be the answer.

Yeah, I mean, it's actually a really cool story,

and

it doesn't really lend itself for me to mock you on it, unfortunately, as much as I would like to.

That's what I'm doing here.

Right, no, I know.

You're setting it up, so it feels bad for me and Pat to.

Yeah, I want you two to walk around feeling like worthless human beings.

Right.

Because her whole point is kindness.

But you didn't write this book.

She did.

So we'll be kind to her.

Right.

And you're unrelated to the process.

But I am.

It's it's a great story.

And

I will at least attempt to mine some details about your childhood that maybe would explain some behavior of yours.

Nothing can explain this.

Except genius.

I'm just saying.

What was it?

Genius.

Genius.

Genius.

Genius.

I thought you were going to say drugs.

They do sound an awful lot alike.

I can hear it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Genius.

A little different.

It's a little different.

Although, I mean,

a lot of geniuses have been influenced by,

because I know my sister is probably listening right now for the first time.

My family is not impressed with me in any way, shape, or form.

And we agree on that point.

Right.

And so she's probably listening.

And I just want to say.

If it goes awry,

I do have, and she'll know exactly what I mean, the Betsy Ross Volkswagen story to tell.

I will pull that beautiful story out,

and she knows exactly what it means.

I'm going to say, you know,

in the middle of the news cycle, do not play into the hands of Stu and Pat.

Where the media has outlined

that essentially threats were made against the Ukrainian president.

That seemed like

my sister to do me a favor.

That seemed like a threat.

Don't play ball with cat and stew.

That's all I'm saying.

That's all you're saying.

All I'm saying.

That's it.

All right, Bill O'Reilly is coming up also in just a few minutes, and he's going to give us his look at what's happening in the world.

Did it still come out?

Is it out or is it coming out soon?

Yeah, you missed him.

I had him on Tuesday.

It was really quite good.

He said he was going to send me one, but

no, he said he was going to send one to your mom.

Well, he sent his last book to my mom, which was very nice.

He actually did it, too.

Yeah.

However, he did not yet send me this new book, which I'm very excited to read.

He really doesn't care about you.

He's a nice guy.

Yeah, I got a galley all signed.

I got a, you know, got it two months early.

Yeah.

I didn't get that.

Yeah.

But you know, he told me he's left your copy.

You'll, you can get it in a couple of months when it's in the discount section at the bookstore.

Oh, really?

He said, yeah, he's left it there for you.

Oh, that's fine.

Because that's local.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I can just go pick it up in a couple months, though.

Yeah, a couple months.

And when you find it, he's knocked the price down for it.

This is the Glembeck program.

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So it's likely none of your friends knew about this Biden-Ukraine story, but you did for months.

And the research that we used for that.

I don't know why.

I've talked to presidents, I've I've talked to prime ministers,

I've talked to really famous people, and there's nothing that makes me more nervous than talking to my family on the air.

That's because they know things about you.

Prime ministers don't know anything about you.

I don't think that's that.

Coletta Hewitt

is the author of a new book called The Pie Letters: Thoughts and Reflections on Pie and Life.

If that sounds like something I could write, it's because Coletta Kewitt is my older sister.

And

looking at the cover of her new book where she's standing there with a pie,

I fail to see the almost identical resemblance.

Other than the goatee.

It's close.

Yeah.

And it really defies all logic because you'd think I'd make an ugly woman, and I apparently don't.

I apparently don't.

The pie letters, welcome to the program.

And watch your step carefully because you are on with Pat and Stu, who have have our ulterior motives, my good sweet sister.

No, no, no, no.

How are you, Coletta?

Good morning.

Good morning.

Yeah, good.

You should know, Coletta, this is the safest interview you will ever do in your life.

It is not

100% on your side.

And we want to sell copies of the pie letters.

That is my main goal in life.

And we don't want to embarrass you at all.

We want to embarrass Glenn.

Glenn.

So you help us, we help you.

There's nothing here to embarrass me.

This is my sister, who has, if you listen to this program, you know, we had a good childhood, wouldn't you agree?

We had a good childhood, screwed up, but a good childhood.

Yes.

Sound like much of an agreement.

Yeah.

Well, we, I mean, the main difference between your childhood, though, is that she had to live with you, right?

Like, you are already you, so you didn't have to do that.

I had to listen to all of her hippie records from her room.

Okay.

So we,

I, maybe we're, maybe, you know, we, we, we all try to, you know, remember things more fondly than they were, but I know people had worse childhood and then have worse things happen to them, even though you have, uh, have really, truly struggled in the family.

Both my sisters truly have struggled.

And what I like about this book, Coletta, is, well, I'll tell you what I like and what I don't like.

What I like about this is this is my sister finding happiness.

And there is nothing I want more for my sisters and my family than to each of them find peace and happiness.

And she found it through what she calls the pie letters.

And so she was motivated to tell this story

of

happiness and peace and kindness.

And now what I don't like about it is there are no recipes of your pies, which are the best pies I've ever had.

So

tell us about the book, Coletta.

Well, and actually, Glenn,

it's really, I found peace through

the awareness of God through my life.

By the way, you don't have to edit yourself.

I know your language.

You don't have to edit yourself.

You can say God and scriptures and everything else in the program.

But that's really, you know, just finding that peace and

patience, which, you know, God actually had me write this book for me because I'm the one that, I know we all need patience, but oh my gosh,

through the whole writing of it, it was,

yeah, patience, patience, patience.

And I write a lot about my husband, which we laugh a lot about this because I need patience with

living with him.

Oh, my goodness.

Yes, I think so.

I think so yes

there's some pretty funny stories about just

you know

relationships marriage and

relationships and then there are also those

yeah just stories about our life as as

you know

there so there's a reason why one of us went into the communications business and one of us went into the pie business and I think And which is which?

I forget now.

I think, I think,

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

Well, can I just, so that everybody knows, just, you know, to let you know, I didn't know we were having this little interview this morning and you woke me up from a dead sleep.

Like, oh, I'm going to be on air.

Okay, so, wait a minute.

One of us, one of us didn't know about it.

It was me, too.

I didn't know.

As I prepared a show, and they sprung this on me a half hour ago.

So both of us didn't know i blame the producer and

that's your fault it's your fault yes

how much of the struggles in your life would you assign to growing up with glenn

that's percentage wise anyone to give a roundabout figure

which you have to ask yourself which one do you think will help sell more books at this point stew or me

well just so you know his bedroom was right next to mine and he was my stinky little brother.

And, yes,

his

room just permeated.

Permeated.

So I forget the name of your book.

It's called The Pie Letters.

It's available on Amazon.

You should buy as many copies as humanly possible.

Explain what the pie letters are, Coletto.

The Pie Letters is a book on

short essays.

Yeah, but what were the pie letters originally?

What were the pie letters?

You went into the pie business.

Oh.

Yeah.

Yes.

So

I had a

pie the month club, and it started out, the pie letters first started out with meeting this

gentleman who

I'm so sorry.

Oh, boy.

Okay.

So let me double up the pie letters.

The book is that my sister is dead asleep.

The pie letters, the pie letters, she started this deal.

My sister's a personal chef

and she makes the best food.

If you ever find yourself anywhere near Wyoming, find my sister's pies because they are fantastic.

And so she started making these pies, but she started making them and selling them and then bringing them to people

every single month.

And it would be a different pie every month.

And with it would come a pie letter.

And it basically is what some of these chapters are.

These pie letters were reflections on

eternal truths and lessons of life.

And she.

And what they have to do with pie.

Go ahead, Coletta.

I have no idea.

What do they have to do with pie letters?

Yeah, what do the letters have to do with pie?

Well, there's a synchronicity of between pie and life.

So, so many things in our life are.

I'm just going to get here to one of the little short essays.

This is the greatest interview of all time.

Of all.

Of all time.

I will say, I think it's great.

I think it's fantastic.

And Cleta's doing a fantastic job.

And considering the stinky permeations that came from her brother's room, the fact that she's able to get to a level where she can write a book like this is incredible.

It's incredible.

I know.

I know.

It's good.

Yeah.

And Glenn,

you're going to love me still

either way, right?

Oh, we'll see at Christmas.

All right.

Well, one of them, for instance, is called Tyology 101.

And

it

talks about how awesome it is to ponder

how our creator has put our individual ingredients so carefully together.

Yet we get to choose our finishing touches and the temperature settings of the day.

Sometimes we're hot, sometimes we're not.

Every day is spent forming our own creation of self.

Some days we also form a pie.

Our ingredients of the day can be mixed up, nutty, and complicated, or just sweetly simple.

Fruits grown out of even the best soil and conditions may become bruised, but even imperfect fruit can become a pie to savor.

Life, as imperfect as it is, may be as a multitude may

maybe has a multitude of savory and sweet bites in each new day.

Pie in life filled to the brim with the fillings of our choice, oozing and bubbling over and just so beautifully messy.

Pie in life.

Any pie or day can end in failure but be perfected on the next.

Pie and life presented in pieces and are just what is left or sometimes presented well-rounded as a whole.

You're definitely in the same family.

I could tell we're getting life advice through baked goods, right?

Is that not great?

That's not great.

Pie and life are made up of a beautiful variety of spices and different tastes.

Pie and life overworking can make it too tough.

Pie and life tender care will always produce the perfect foundation.

Pie in life, dig in while it's fresh and share that creation.

The name of the book is The Pie Letters, Thoughts and Reflections on Pie and Life.

It's by my sister, Coletta Hewitt, and you can find it at Amazon right now, The Pie Letters.

And it is well worth the read.

I've heard rumor, not that I've read this book several times, but I have heard rumor that there is a.

There are some other things in this book that you should read.

Anyway, you'll enjoy it.

It is the.

And which chapter is the Glenn Beck's Room Odor that talks about where can we find...

Yeah.

The pie letters, thoughts and reflections on pie and life.

Coletta, I love you very much, and I'm very proud of you.

Okay.

Bye, sweetheart.

Thank you so much.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

That's so nice of you, Stingy.

Shut up.

Shut up.

What she didn't say is all of the artwork done in this,

she really worked hard on this book, not for her.

Her friend is an artist and wanted to do all the artwork in the book, all this really great artwork.

Yeah.

And

she was dying of cancer.

And she wanted, she was like, I got to get this out before I got to get this out because she's worked so hard on it.

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Bill O'Reilly and his opinion on what's going on.

I need to share with you what we shared yesterday on the program.

This has nothing to do, nothing to do with Joe Biden.

Nothing.

I don't know if I'm

going to be able to do that.

No, I think yeah.

Okay, so yes, yes, it does have something to do with Joe Biden, but it is more about

the DNC.

And I think Joe Biden is being thrown to the wolves.

They don't care about Joe Biden.

They don't care about Joe Biden.

Because I've gone back and forth on this, as you know.

I kind of feel like if Joe Biden is a savvy politician, he can absolutely take advantage of this because he can come, and he kind of tried to do it a little bit yesterday, but not as overtly as I think I would do it if I were him as a candidate, to say that, look, the president of the United States is making phone calls to foreign leaders to try to sink my campaign because he knows I'll beat him.

And I'm not saying he will beat him.

I'm just saying, if I'm Joe Biden, that's the argument I'm making to Democratic voters today.

You know, he's looking, he's not targeting Elizabeth Warren.

He doesn't want dirt on Bernie Sanders.

He's not looking at, hey, what's Pete Buttigieg been up to?

He's coming after me.

He's coming after me because he knows I'll beat him.

And he's actually.

But in reality, and this is where Donald Trump needs to stop playing defense on this and needs to start playing playing offense and needs somebody who can craft the story of what he was really doing.

President knew what he was looking for, and he's not looking to take down Joe Biden.

He's looking to take down

the deep state that's run by the Democrats.

The Democrats were all over the Ukraine,

and they were all over in the Ukraine during the election.

I mean,

why would Hillary Clinton's strategic advisor, her chief strategic advisor, be spending time in Ukraine at that time?

Why?

They used Ukraine.

It's a beautiful vacation location.

That's where you go.

They used Ukraine as a way, as an entrance to get dirt on people and a doorway to the dirty money of Russia.

And that's what Donald Trump is going to expose.

And he's going to expose it in the intelligence community.

He's going to expose it in the State Department.

He's, he's already exposed it in our embassy in Ukraine and fired that person.

And I think the documents haven't come out because nobody has wanted to speak because no one knew where the power was.

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I'm just throwing that out there.

You make a good point.

You make a good point.

This

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Just remember that?

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gone.

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Shut it down.

Why?

Why?

What was so corrupt?

What was going on?

What was so urgent that you shut it down that day?

Well, we're now starting to see what that is, and we see the deep state.

And

it's going to be up to the Trump team to make the case.

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Gee, Bill, not a lot happened this week, huh?

You talking to me, Beck?

Well, if you're the only Bill on the show.

You're talking to me.

I'm talking to you.

This impeachment, where do you want to start?

Let's start with facts and go through the whole hour just on facts.

Okay, go ahead.

All right, because my head's going to blow off listening to these morons on cable television.

I have never seen anything more dishonest.

This is, and I say this every time they do something, it is worse and worse every time.

And this is where we start.

So this impeachment drive is now being

sponsored.

That's a good word, by the media.

The media is doing this, not Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party.

The media is driving the impeachment, and Nancy Pelosi and her merry people are hitchhiking a ride on the drive.

Would you dispute that?

Yes, I would.

I wouldn't have two days ago, but after listening to the whistleblower, I think this is so far above Nancy Pelosi's head.

This is going to tear down the entire

Obama DNC infrastructure that they thought they had all buttoned up in Ukraine.

And I think they have no choice.

Yeah, but

you're ahead of yourself now.

Just the story, the Ukraine Trump story, and the impeachment hysteria that has come out of it is driven by the media.

Would you cede that?

Yeah, I mean, the media wants to take him down at any cost, but they sense that there's something bigger here because of what they're hearing from the DNC.

And the DNC is

not telling the truth, obviously.

Well, let's just keep it as simple as possible because you're a brilliant man, but I'm a simple man.

Okay, all right, simple man.

I'm a simple guy.

I just want to be really clear so everybody listening can say, you know, that was a worthwhile hour with O'Reilly and Beck.

So the media is driving the impeachment

sentiment.

And if you don't believe me, look at all the front pages of the liberal newspapers, which is 90% of them.

So you see words like scandal,

you see words like cover up,

you see words like mob behavior, organized crime.

All of that is what is being written today,

September 27, 2019.

The broadcast media picks up the phraseology,

scandal, cover-up, mob behavior, that kind of thing, drops it on television.

Now, Pelosi and the Democrats say, hey, this is good because even though we don't have anything that rises to the level of impeachment, it doesn't matter because the media is saying we do.

Are you with me so far?

Yes, I'm with you.

Okay.

So for the American citizen who's fair-minded, not pro-Trump or anti-Trump, but just wants the best for his or her country, the first question you have to ask is, what is the violation?

What is it that would amount to an impeachment inquiry?

And mobile.

Can you tell me what the violation is, Beck?

No, can't.

What?

Can't.

Because there is no violation.

Exactly right.

There's no violation.

It's not like Clinton lied or Andrew Johnson is so drunk he can't do his job.

It's not like that.

It's like there's no violation.

Because a sitting president is allowed under our Constitution to call any foreign leader and say to that foreign leader, you know, there's a situation involving a former vice president that we feel might lead to corruption.

Can you please check that out for us?

That's allowed, Beck.

Of course it is.

It is in the national interest.

Look, you could say that Donald Trump was doing this to hurt Joe Biden, but the fact is this is bigger than Joe Biden, and even if it did help Donald Trump, it is in our national interest to the extreme to find out what was going on.

Right.

And a president has the right to ask the assistance of a foreign leader to get information.

So that's number one.

Okay, that's number one.

He didn't do anything wrong in the call.

There's no, if you don't give me this, we're going to deny funds like Biden did, and Biden admits to doing it.

All right, none of that.

The second thing is election integrity.

Okay, that's a subjective thing.

It's not a fact.

But I will cede that Donald Trump wanted to get dirt on Joe Biden.

I will admit that all day long.

And the reason I admit it is because I wrote it in the United States of Trump.

If you read the book, you'll see the genesis of this whole thing.

That Trump is so furious because he believes that Barack Obama,

Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden, and now Joe Biden

hurt him personally

in the campaign and then after he won.

And that is.

And he believes that firmly.

Correct.

And he wants payback.

And because we did our homework

starting a year ago and did two episodes on this six months ago, we know that that is true.

We know that that is true.

Absolutely.

Well,

Joe Biden.

Oh, yes.

I don't know about Biden.

Well, listen to Next Hour.

We have John Solomon on with us next.

He just got some additional documents from Ukraine yesterday,

And

the case is moving forward and it is damning on Joe Biden and the Democrats.

Okay.

All right.

I'll cede that.

But on the record, on the record

in the United States of Trump, right there, so you can see it, is Barack Obama, as President of the United States knew, was informed by the CIA in August 2016 that Russia was trying to intrude on the election.

And Barack Obama chose not to say anything, not to give either campaign a heads up.

That's on the record that happened.

That's a fact.

Trump is furious about that because, in his mind, any other president would have said, hey, be careful, the Russians are trying to intrude.

But Obama didn't do it.

Secondly,

Donald Trump believes, and this is a fact as well, that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid money to foreign nationals to get the dossier, the smear dossier, that turned out to be false.

Both the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid money to foreign nationals through Fusion GPS.

I think Russians were paid.

Right.

And I think you will find that they also did it in Ukraine.

They used Ukraine as the middleman to get to the real dirty people in Russia.

You will find that to be true soon.

Okay, but I'm

not a hour, Beck.

I know.

I'm stating facts.

All right, it's a fact-based hour.

So every word that I've said up until now is true fact.

Yeah, verifiable.

So now you have the American people, the American people going, what the deuce is happening when our Congress

can be diverted into trying to destroy a sitting president based on what?

Nothing.

There's no crime.

And let's get into the cover-up.

The cover-up.

Every president since George Washington, when they have a sensitive conversation, not only with a foreign leader, but anyone in government here,

puts the sensitive conversation in a more secure place.

Every single one of them.

Yes, but don't put

the time there was nothing sensitive in this except for him saying i want to ask you for a favor dot dot dot i need you to get some dirt on joe biden and his uh son that that's what they're claiming that there was nothing sensitive in this but that except for him what was said i know look The cover-up thing drives me nuts because you as a president cannot put out to the public that you talked to the president of Ukraine or Australia or anyone.

And here's what I said.

If you do that, no one will talk to you.

So of course, you're going to put it in a more secure place.

It's not a cover-up.

This is standard procedure.

Yet on the front page of the newspapers, whistleblower says cover-up.

I mean, it's just,

you always say Twilight Zone, I always say this, but now I'm teed off, Beck.

Now I'm mad.

And it's not because I'm sticking up for Donald Trump.

If you read the United States of Trump, the man makes a lot of mistakes, and he makes them because he has a lack of discipline when he's attacked.

And he does things he shouldn't do.

I honestly.

Put yourself in his shoes.

I honestly entered the week.

He didn't do anything wrong.

I know.

I entered the week when I heard about the the whistleblower thinking, okay, let's keep an open mind.

You know,

he could have done that.

We also,

when they said, well, we're going to release the transcripts, I came in that morning going, well,

you know, he makes a lot of stupid mistakes and just kind of, you know, just blurts things out, maybe,

but I am absolutely convinced now that, and I'm going to do a special on this next week, he did nothing wrong.

In fact, I fully support what the president was trying to get at.

If I understand this story right, and I believe I do, I fully support him in this and the way he handled it.

I would have handled it exactly the same way.

I couldn't give the president more support at this point.

I would not have handled it the same way he did.

I would never have trusted a foreign leader in Ukraine.

It wasn't the foreign leader that blew this.

It wasn't the foreign leader that blew this.

That foreign leader.

That foreign leader was the guy who agreed with the president.

In fact, brought Judy Giuliani up first.

He was the guy who said, I know, and I'm on this, and I've got the people.

The one that ratted him out, the one that broke this confidence, is the

deep state intel that was

spreading rumors.

You're going to see in the next few days who that person is.

That's definitely going to come out.

Well, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Since we're in a fact-based hour, who is he?

Ha ha ha.

Yeah.

Do you really want me to say who he is?

I do.

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The name of the whistleblower.

Bill O'Reilly.

Stu

Stu did it.

Can you tell us what you do know?

All right.

Now I'm going to depart from the fact-based first 20 minutes that we had.

If you look at the whistleblower complaint, all right, and we'll go back to facts now.

He did not hear the conversation.

All right, so it's hearsay

because he did not have access to President Trump talking with the Ukraine president.

Two, he interprets the conversation.

Listen to the deep state trying to get this conversation ended.

Bill, you're breaking up.

We know it is either Dick Cheney, Halliburton, or the Deep State.

Can you state that?

Are you hearing me clearly now?

I am now, but as soon as you started in on the facts.

Okay.

All right, go ahead.

Okay.

You know, this is the deep state trying to cut me out.

I know, no, I know.

Look,

if you read the language of the whistleblower complaint, it is all about hearsay, anonymous sources, and what this guy thinks happened, not what really happened.

All right?

So that when he is exposed, which he will be,

you are going to see that this is Christine Blasey Ford.

Yes.

That's who it is.

A person with an axe to grind against another person.

Yeah.

You're not saying it's her specifically.

You're saying it's just a person with her.

I think it's another one with her profile, another person that has been against this president from the start.

The whistleblower has already been discredited.

multiple times.

They said he said this at least eight times.

No, he didn't.

He made a promise.

No, he didn't.

This is what the IG kind of said, right?

Supposedly that this is someone with a political axe to grind.

Correct.

And you'll also find, Bill, I think you'll also.

We'll find that out, and I know

it'll be proven to be true.

But let's get back to

the other people.

Hang on, I want one more thing before we go back into fact base.

You're also going to find the State Department's fingers all over this.

All over this.

Go ahead.

All right.

Well, that'll give you you and all the other people who are doing talk, radio and TV a lot of stuff to talk about.

But what should happen now

to protect the American people,

to protect the American people.

See, the American people are the ones that are really getting hurt here.

Yeah, Trump is getting hurt, but because this country is supposed to be operating in a fair way, an honest way, it's the American people who are getting hurt.

So what is wrong with the Republican Party?

The Republican Party should join together, and Mitt Romney better shut the F up.

Okay?

Wow, I don't think I've ever heard you say that.

I don't think I've ever heard you say so.

Mitt Romney is about as irresponsible.

I like Mitt Romney.

I've known him for a long time.

Okay?

But what he said this week was as irresponsible as anything any Democrat said.

So the Republican Party has to, and Mitch McConnell is going to have to lead it, God help us, is going to have to go as one entity and say, this is a fraud.

This is tearing the fabric of America apart.

We're not going to stand for it.

And every Republican has got to stand up in the House and Senate and sign on to that.

Because if you don't, you don't have an honest country anymore because this is banana public stuff.

It is.

That's what it is.

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You know, if the president would have said,

look, I need some dirt on

Joe Biden, and I don't care where you get it, that would be one thing.

But that's not what he said.

What he's saying is, we believe there is deep corruption from the United States in the Ukraine, and we have pieces of evidence, and we believe the newly elected president, we believe you don't know some of those names, and they are still surrounding you.

Be very careful, but you must.

further these investigations.

And the president of the Ukraine saying, I know what you're talking about.

I know who you're talking about.

And we are furthering those investigations.

I don't understand how that is anything but in the national interest of

our country.

I don't understand how that is wrong for anyone to say.

It's exactly what I would say.

Bill O'Reilly, welcome.

It's going to be reported that way.

Yo, I know, but that's

nothing wrong with that.

Right.

But

that's the spin of what we're talking about.

The media laid it out.

There's nothing.

Okay.

So a headline on the CBS website, news website right now.

Over 300 former national security professionals call out Trump for unconscionable abuse of power.

That's the headline.

Okay, so CBS News is putting out that 300 people, both Republican and Democrats, who've worked in the industry,

national security industry, have condemned Trump based on what?

There's no evidence to condemn anyone about anything.

Now, the only legitimate point here, and this goes back again to my book, The United States of Trump, and this is the president's Achilles heel, is that he harbors grudges against people he thinks have harmed him and his family.

So there is an element, and I know this to be true,

that he wants to expose Joe Biden's Ukrainian corruption, quote unquote.

Right.

So let me ask you this.

The president wants to do that.

Let me ask you this to further that.

But it is not just, in fact, I think that is secondary.

The election is secondary.

He is so angry at this

Russian corruption stuff that came through the Ukraine and Russia by the Democrats.

Joe Biden was involved.

Barack Obama was involved.

He is so angry at that.

He wants to find the evidence to prove that is true.

And I think he would want that to be proven true to discredit them more than even winning the next election.

Would you agree with that?

Yes, I would.

It's very personal.

Yes.

And

it goes to him always saying, I'm a legitimate president.

They didn't throw it my way.

He's so obsessed.

It goes way back to...

Right.

Right.

He's obsessed.

He is.

And that is an Achilles heel for him.

I agree.

And

that's why you got to read the United States of Trump to understand where the man is coming from.

But that's not an impeachable offense.

Correct.

All right.

Every president has deficits, personality deficits, every one.

That you don't impeach on that.

And a headline like 300 people say what

Donald Trump did was unconscionable is unconscionable itself.

CBS putting that up there is unconscionable.

They don't know who these people are.

They also are former.

Are they not former intelligent people?

And I'll go back to Blasey Ford again.

I'll go back to that analogy.

We now know that Blasey Ford didn't like Kavanaugh's abortion

profile.

We now know that she went to the most radical left lawyer she could find to represent her in a political way.

These are facts.

By the way, we had to endure as a nation.

The lawyer that this whistleblower went to, we know, worked for Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer.

I mean, in their offices.

That's true.

One of the lawyers that the whistleblower is using.

But as I said in the first half hour, you are going to find out soon that the man is a Trump hater.

You will find that out.

But even when we do find it out, Beck, do you expect that to be reported honestly in this country?

No.

Do you respect the people getting that information?

No.

So that's why I'm saying

the only solution to this problem now

is for the Republican Party to band together as one and fight back.

This is what I said.

What I said

people a clear choice.

Right.

Yesterday, when I was reading the whistleblower report, it all kind of dropped into place for me, and I'm going to make this case next week in a special, and I urge you to watch it.

I'll send you a copy of it, Bill,

you know, so you can watch it while you're being chauffeured around town or whatever it is you do.

Yeah, we do have a TV in the back seat.

Okay, so but I'll send it to you because I want you to see it.

But it all kind of dropped into place for me yesterday, or yeah, yesterday during the whistleblower thing.

And I'm looking at this, and

Donald Trump, and this is going to be very hard because what you said, he is obsessed with this, and that's an Achilles heel, only because that's why we remove people from investigations when they're personally involved, because you make mistakes.

And he's going to make mistakes.

Yes, and he'll make mistakes.

That's not an impeachable offense.

Correct.

Look,

if Biden had been clean, if Biden had done nothing wrong,

then Trump would be really

in a bad place.

Okay?

But Biden did do something wrong.

By his own admission, he went to a foreign country as the vice president, threatened to withhold a billion dollars unless the foreign country fired a prosecutor

who was looking into his son's company now hang on the story on the the story on the the left is that it wasn't for that it was for corruption and if it were indeed for corruption i would i would be for that the government of the united states should not be doing business with corrupt governments where we had just lost 1.8 billion dollars went to offshore uh accounts of the guy who ran burisma and the biggest bank so i would be for that, but that's not what it is.

And in 10 minutes, 15 minutes, John Solomon will be on.

He has newly released documents yesterday.

He got a hold of documents that show that that is absolutely not what was going on.

And absolutely, this was about Joe Biden and his son.

He has the documentation to prove it.

And he's coming up in 15 minutes.

All right.

Well, there was never any doubt in my mind because Biden himself said it.

And if you listen to the soundbite, it's clear Biden swaggered on over there with his big VP status and said, we don't like this guy, and I don't even know who the guy is, but the guy's investigating my son's company, and you got to fire him.

And if you don't, we're going to withhold a billion dollars.

And that's exactly what Trump was initially accused of, which now turns out to be false.

But don't you don't you see my big point, Beck, that if the Republican Party don't launch a counterattack, that this country, you know,

we're in trouble.

That's why I said, and this is what I'm going to say.

Ellian,

is this what it's going to be?

And you ought to tell Giuliani just to shut up.

I mean, Giuliani hurts him.

Doesn't help him.

Get Giuliani out of there.

The Republicans have got to tell the American people the Democratic Party, in conjunction with the corrupt media, is harming the nation.

Vote for us, and we will stop it.

I will tell you.

The choice is going to have to be made.

I will tell you, Bill, we are researching this now to

find the evidence, to be able to make at least a good case.

It's not going to be an open and shut case because the people aren't talking in Ukraine yet, but they will.

More and more are coming to the table because they see which way the wind is blowing.

And

this is a battle of titans and it's a clash of titans.

And it's, I think, a battle to the death in Ukraine, probably literally.

But this is why I'm trying to make this case next week.

I'm going to button it up.

But yesterday I said Donald Trump needs to stop playing defense and needs to go on the offense.

But they have to have they have to have a simple elevator pitch that people can understand about what this really is and then back it up.

And that's what I'm trying to provide next week.

But I don't think it can just be Trump.

No, it has to be the entire.

No, it doesn't even have to be the GOP.

It has to be everyone who believes in innocent until proven guilty.

Because I can't prove that the DNC is doing this, and the DNC can't prove that Donald Trump is doing this.

But this is an issue of national security that goes way beyond the election of 2020, way beyond beyond Donald Trump, and certainly well beyond Joe Biden.

Stop looking at this as just a political thing.

No, I have not.

Did you tape your

boundary of

a provable fact?

Yeah, because if you go out of that,

then

you can be attacked, and then if something happens that we don't know about,

look, there is,

you know, look,

I can't present a case.

I will make sure that I say, this is proven, this is proven, this is proven, this is what I believe they are driving towards.

This is what I believe happened.

And I can prove.

At the end, you can do that

once you present the facts.

Right, I will prove.

Just

reread the United States of Trump.

It's all fact-based.

And just follow that outline, Beck.

That's what you like to do.

Follow the way.

I've guided you through how this is done.

You present facts.

But I want everybody listening right now, and I know you have to go and

get painkillers or whatever you're on here.

I want everyone

to go

who are listening, all the millions of people who are listening to us right now, to understand that this is a crossroads in American history.

That you have a corrupt media, and there's no question it's corrupt, all right, that have allied itself with a political party, the Democrats, in order to destroy a president of the United States.

This has never happened before.

I believe

they are successful.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

No, I think you're just going to make the point.

Yes.

Our republic is gone.

I was just going to say, Bill, I don't believe we'll ever be safe again.

I believe if this just fades away

or they are successful in doing this.

I do believe this is the point where we lose our

security, our liberty, our justice.

All of it is gone on this particular case.

I think you're right.

And

everybody in the Republican Party has to understand that.

And I'm telling you, if they don't help,

they're going to lose because Trump can't do it by himself.

He can't.

And it doesn't matter with you or Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh.

It doesn't matter.

Okay.

The party

has to say to the American people, enough.

Enough.

All right.

Bill O'Reilly.

We believe in due process.

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All right.

Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Bill.

We'll talk to you again next week.

You can say, you're welcome, Glenn.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

This is the Glenbeck Program.

Welcome.

So let me ask you this.

I've heard you a couple of times refer to this story in a certain way.

And I've heard a lot of people on the right say, look, Trump didn't do anything illegal.

Trump didn't do anything

that would lead to impeachment.

You know, maybe it's not perfect and, you know, it's part of politics, but.

It's not perfect.

He's a sloppy guy.

However, that's what you said

was

I would have done everything the same way, which is you've gone further.

And again, like you're not always

super complimentary on the president on every issue.

No, you are sometimes and sometimes you're not.

Because I'm not making this story about Donald Trump and I'm not making it about Joe Biden.

I'm making this story about what this story is really all about.

The

intelligence agencies, the State Department, mark my word, the State Department's fingers are going to be all over this.

The State Department,

the Justice Department,

and the Democratic Party, the DNC, the leaders, the Hillary Clintons of the world, the Tony Podestas.

This is what this story is really all about.

This is the deep state that says we know what we're doing.

We control these things.

They planted these people firmly in Ukraine.

I think, my personal opinion, is that they were using Ukraine for dirty ops.

And that's what this story is about.

This is about a coup of the American republic, not just of the president trying to, you know, get him out.

It's that this

is, I believe, the end of the republic and the beginning of an oligarchy if we do not stop this.

And you're going to see that that is what Donald Trump, whether he knows it or not, is actually doing.

And it is critical that it is exposed.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

Boy, you want to talk to somebody who is deeply in this?

The whistleblower quotes the work that our next guest has,

has done on this issue, John Solomon, a very respected journalist up until recently,

who has been on this for a long time and is mentioned by the whistleblower as a shill.

I don't think John Solomon is a shill.

You'll have to decide and we'll get the inside on new information that has just come to him

last night.

We should get into it.

I mean, just think of the last couple of days.

I mean,

obviously this is a story we've been laying the groundwork for for months and months and months and months.

Then the two big days,

both pieces, or the last three days, I guess, both big pieces of information break during the show, right?

Then we have not only

Bill O'Reilly on, who just wrote a book about the way Trump thinks, which is a really good perspective, but then Chris Stewart, who walks out of a hearing to come on the air with us.

And now John Solomon, who's released all these documents, is on the air with us the day, right?

You know, almost immediately after he releases them.

That's been a whirlwind couple days.

Yeah, it has been a little crazy.

And there is a special on the Blaze next week.

We'll tell you about more coming up.

The fusion

of entertainment and enlightenment.

I'm going to give you a little synopsis and thank you for being here because you are so important to get information out.

Let me just tell you what has happened.

The Democrats are going for impeachment based on something that happened in Ukraine with, they say, with Joe Biden.

It's much bigger than that, as you'll understand here in a minute.

But you knew about this thing with Joe Biden because you listened to this show, you had done your homework, you had heard us interview people who have been doing the investigation on this.

You watched our videos on it explaining all of this.

So you were ahead by months.

Then

we have Bill O'Reilly on today, who has just released a new book on how

Donald Trump thinks and how this affects him.

Not Joe Biden, but Joe Biden's work in the Ukraine and how it all ties up into the Russian investigation, which is exactly what we're talking about now.

He's got that out.

Yesterday, we had Chris Stewart walk out after questioning the Inspector General or the National Director of Intelligence.

As he's being questioned, Chris Stewart is questioning him.

I happened to write him during the questions.

See him look down and he gets up and he walks out of the hearing room and he calls us yesterday to tell you exactly what was going on.

Today, I think the guy who has all of the keys to the kingdom, the guy who the whistleblower says is the mouthpiece.

For Rudy Giuliani, and he's nothing but a shill.

You've heard him before, and you know his record.

He's joining us in one minute.

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John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist.

He has worked for the Associated Press, The Washington Post, The Washington Times.

He's the executive vice president at The Hill and is at the center of this story.

John, I don't know what your day was like yesterday when you got up and watched and read the whistleblower report, and you are named as the mouthpiece for this conspiracy theory.

Yeah, it's well, my name's not in there, but my reporting clearly is, and they're clearly identifying me.

Yes.

And I think there are some troubling questions that need to be asked, which is,

why is a reporter's factually

proven, factually based, fully authenticated, fully documented stories, the matter of the intelligence community?

Has anyone been monitoring me?

Have they been looking or unmasking my calls overseas?

Why is this a matter of whistleblower?

I can't violate intelligence law.

I'm not an intelligence officer.

There is a very serious question raised here about why my reporting was thrown into a narrative that absolutely my reporting has nothing to do with intelligence law.

It has nothing at all.

And so it was clearly, and ironically,

this whistleblower complaint was filed in July, right around the time I began submitting questions to Joe Biden about the story that I just wrote last night.

And I think that if you look yesterday, there was a coordinated assault on my reputation, all of it factually false.

And I intend to eventually show the American public how false the stories in the narrative were yesterday.

But it can't be an accident that all this happens as I'm finishing up the latest story on Joe Biden, which came out last night.

And when you look at what I reported, Joe Biden's, Hunter Biden's legal team, the legal team for Burisma, working on Hunter Biden's watch when he's a board member and consultant, and according to the company, overseeing the company's legal strategy,

they are telling the Ukraine prosecutor's office that the information that was used to justify Joe Biden firing the chief prosecutor of Ukraine, the man investigating his son's company, was, quote, false information.

Why would Burisman do that?

Why would the lawyers

I don't know the answer?

Yeah, we don't know the answer, right?

There's all sorts of possibilities, which is they wanted the new guys to have, you know, feel good about them.

They wanted the new guys to make the case go away and settle the case, which they did.

You know, they settled it with a tax fine at the end of Barack Obama's presidency.

Nobody can understand the dynamics here yet because in Ukraine, it's a very strange world, right?

Truth isn't always what it seems when you first get there.

But

the importance for the American people is that Joe Biden has staked out a very clear story.

I fired the guy.

Yes, I knew my son's company was under investigation, but that's not why I fired the guy.

I fired him because

he was corrupt.

Now, what I put in the record yesterday were just old-fashioned documents.

They come from public releases of information from the Office of Prosecutor in Ukraine and from an affidavit filed in an Austrian court.

And here's what they show.

First, the man who was fired, Shokin, the man that Biden forced to be fired, the man who was investigating Hunter Biden's company, and at that moment he was fired making plans to interview Hunter Biden.

That doesn't mean Hunter Biden did anything wrong, but he was about to interview Hunter Biden in the middle of the 2016 election.

That would have been a big story, right?

He says, I was told, and I can tell you for certainty, I was fired because I continued to investigate Burisma when Joe Biden wanted me to stop.

And that's what President Poroshenko made clear to me.

That's an important thing.

It's under penalty of perjury.

We should evaluate that.

But it doesn't match Joe Biden's story.

Now, here's a second thing that doesn't match Joe Biden's story.

Joe Biden says it was all about the corruption.

But

the day that he fired or got that Ukraine prosecutor fired while in Ukraine.

Miraculously, Burisma's team is at the doorstep trying to get a meeting immediately with his replacement.

If they're not related, why is Burisma so interested on the day of the firing to get to see the new guy, the acting prosecutor?

And of course, that acting prosecutor was a little busy that day getting his job in place.

So he waits about a week and then he takes the audience with Burisma.

These are three American lawyers, two working for a public relations lobbying firm known as Blue Star Strategies, and one, a famous criminal defense lawyer, very accomplished defense lawyer in, I think it's Massachusetts or New York.

They come over and they have the meeting.

And in that meeting, according to the prosecutor's memo of it, summary of it, signed by the acting, or at that time the acting prosecutor, it says they apologized for the false information that U.S.

officials had spread about the predecessor, Mr.

Shokin.

They knew that it was false information, and they would like to arrange a way to make this all up by bringing the left remaining prosecutors to Washington, getting good with the Obama administration, tell them what really went on so there's no more confusion going forward.

That

narrative, those documents do not match Joe Biden's story.

Now,

maybe someone's made them up.

Maybe someone, there's two different possible stories here, but Joe Biden's very clean story doesn't match any of the documents that I obtained.

And people say, well, it's a Ukraine prosecution member.

Why should we trust it?

Well, the answer is, I also have the emails of the Burisma American legal team.

And those emails show that what the prosecutor's memo says is actually what those American lawyers said to the prosecutors.

I actually have the invite from Burisma's American lawyer saying, hey, you guys, you got victimized.

Come over to the United States.

We'll hook you up with the Justice Department.

You can clear the air about this false information.

So these...

These facts all add together and they don't add up to Joe Biden's story.

And that's why I wrote what I wrote last night.

All right.

So, John,

I believe that there is,

with an exception of this new information now, that there hasn't been anything that Joe Biden or Hunter Biden was doing that was illegal.

It was just grotesque, just grotesque.

Do you agree with that or not?

Listen, I think lawyers make decisions on legality.

I'm not a lawyer.

I'm a reporter.

I can tell you what the ethics standard is for the United States, for all U.S.

government officials.

The standard is not only to avoid a conflict of interest, but to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest.

I think most average people would say, if Joe Biden knew, which he acknowledges he did, that that prosecutor was investigating his son, he should have left it to somebody else to fire that prosecutor.

Why did he go out of his way to do it?

And when he did it, what did he use?

He used U.S.

foreign aid as the hammer.

If you do not fire this guy, I'm going to to bankrupt your

country by withholding $1 billion.

Remember, that's what Democrats just accused President Trump of doing, right?

Of course, when the transcript came out, there was no quid pro quo linking U.S.

foreign aid to a request to the Ukrainian President.

But in Joe Biden's case, it is irrefutable.

He linked U.S.

aid to the forcing of a firing of a prosecutor that he knew was investigating his son's company.

So under that standard, a lot of people will say, well, that is an appearance.

Why didn't he step aside?

Why didn't he let somebody else do the job?

Joe Biden hasn't answered those questions yet.

Do I see any criminality?

I'm not a lawyer.

I think we need to see more things.

My reason for writing the stories is not to accuse someone of breaking the law or committing a crime.

It's to put into the public information the accurate portrayal of what our U.S.

government was doing overseas in Ukraine.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So

tell me about what happened after

the firing and after the New York Times pretty much verifies everything that you're saying and writes a story about Hunter Biden.

And they say, but there is no wrongdoing.

It's just grotesque.

No wrongdoing.

Go ahead.

Yeah, there's some interesting storylines that get put out there.

I saw some of this on MSNBC the other day, and they're simply not true.

One of the favorite storylines that Joe Biden's defenders like to throw out there is at the time Joe Biden

At the time Joe Biden effectuated the firing of this prosecutor, there really wasn't an open case.

It had been closed in 2015.

That's not true.

There was a British case against Burisma's owner that was closed in Great Britain in 2015.

But there were two open cases in Ukraine active at the very moment Joe Biden did.

So that's a straw man.

It's a false story.

But it's getting into the narrative because the same reporters that wrote about Russia collusion are now writing about this Ukraine story.

It is simply...

Not true.

Shokin's affidavit makes clear he was preparing to interview Hunter Biden.

He told that to the Washington Post.

He told that to ABC News.

He told that to me.

So that's a false storyline.

When people are perpetrating that, you have to ask yourself, why are they giving the American people a false story?

Why don't they just admit, yes, there was an investigation?

Now, one of the most damning pieces of evidence to that narrative is that Burisma's own American lawyer, John Beretta, gave an interview when the case was all done, and he laid out the timetable, and he confirmed that one of the criminal cases, the investigations in Burisma, was closed down nine months after Joe Biden had effectuated the fight, nine months after.

And that the second case was settled with a fine a few days before Barack Obama left office and turned the keys to the White House over to Donald Trump.

So Breisma,

his own lawyer, debunks

the very storyline that a lot of these media champions of Joe Biden are now putting into the American public.

They're feeding the American public a false story.

And that's what complicates the ability of Americans to make a good judgment on this.

There is bad reporting on this.

Tell me about the New York Times story that comes out and Hunter Biden and Devin Archer have a meeting at our State Department.

Yes.

So all we know is there's a text message that Devin Archer

sent to one of his business colleagues on December 10th.

It's two days after the New York Times raised the question saying Joe Biden's anti-corruption fight in Ukraine is really being hampered by the appearance of his son because his son worked for this owner and this owner and this company are currently under investigation.

That is December of 2015.

Now, the next day, Joe,

at that very moment that that story came out, Joe Biden was in Ukraine meeting with President Porschenko.

President Porschenko's aides told me on the record that during that meeting, Joe Biden renewed or pressed again to get Mr.

Shokin fired, something that doesn't happen for four more months.

So article comes out.

Joe Biden makes another request to fire the prosecutor.

And then Devin Archer is talking.

That's the business partner of Hunter Biden.

They're both on the board of Brisma.

They're longtime friends.

Devin Archer is somebody that has met with the vice president

during the time he was on Burisma's board.

And Devin Archer writes a friend saying, we want to change the narrative.

We just came back, meeting Hunter and him.

Hunter and Devin Archer, two business partners, came back from a meeting at the State Department, and there's going to be some announcement of USAID money, meaning State Department grant money coming to us.

Now, I can't find that grant, but clearly it references a meeting in December of 2015 around the time of this negative story by the New York Times.

So I have filed a FOIA request.

The State Department did not comply for that, you know, to get records of that meeting.

I have now sued, and I expect over the next few months that I will begin to get documents from the State Department identifying any and all contacts that Hunter Biden, Joe Biden.

How unusual is it for that to happen, for somebody...

to go into the State Department and change the narrative?

Well, yeah, you know, Americans meet all the time with the State Department, particularly those Americans that are working overseas, right?

And if you're working in Ukraine, it is a volatile area, right?

You've got Russia right next door to you.

There's a lot of corruption in Ukraine.

And on its face, it's not

necessarily unusual.

It could be entirely appropriate.

The idea that Hunter Biden and his business partner are looking for grant money from the State Department, which is the inference of this text message, that stands out.

Again, it fulfills this, or it's another piece of this narrative of Hunter Biden riding in the vapor trail of his dad's policy wagon and trying to collect.

Joe Biden goes to China.

He brings Hunter Biden with him.

The Hunter Biden's firm walks back with a $1.5 billion contract.

Joe Biden is named the point man for Barack Obama, Ukraine.

Three weeks later,

a few weeks later, he goes to Ukraine and he meets with the Prime Minister of Ukraine.

This is really extraordinary.

You can look at the transcript because I put it up not too long ago.

Joe Biden meets with the Prime Minister of Ukraine in April of 2014, just a few weeks before Hunter's name to the board, and he says, you know what?

You Ukrainians should start expanding your natural gas

production, and Americans should be here to help you.

In fact, some are here right now getting that process started.

Joe Biden basically lays out the idea that Americans should come and help expand Ukraine's natural gas production.

And what happens within three weeks?

Hunter Hunter Biden is added to the board, even though he doesn't seem to have any experience in natural gas.

He doesn't seem to have any long-term experience in Ukraine.

Those are the sort of facts that raise to the question of did this create an appearance of a conflict of interest?

Okay, John Solomon, back with him in just one minute, 60 seconds away.

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He is an award-winning investigative journalist.

He has

been at the forefront of really game-changing investigations.

He's worked for the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Associated Press.

He is now the executive vice president of The Hill, and he has been instrumental on the reporting of what was going on in Ukraine.

I have a theory I want to pass by you here in a few minutes, but first I want to ask you this, John.

Is there they're trying to allude that

you

were getting your marching orders from Rudy Giuliani?

Right.

That is the inference.

Yeah.

Any, you want to comment on that?

I think if people just simply looked at the public record of what I've done, you will discover that I began reporting and writing on Ukraine months before Rudy Giuliani says he ever began investigating Ukraine.

I can tell you some of my early sources, because they're clear now from my stories, were Democrats working for Ukrainians who were concerned about what went on inside Ukraine during the 2016 election.

I can tell you that the Ukraine embassy provided me a statement that Mr.

Giuliani and his team never played a role in confirming that the Democratic National Committee asked Ukraine to interfere in the 2016 election, that the Ukraine government ultimately turned down that request.

I can confirm to you that I wrote a series of stories or a story about Mr.

Fertash's case,

a Ukrainian oligarch, that is intertwined with Joe Biden in the 2016 period.

Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with that story.

It was actually driven by a Democratic lawyer.

Okay.

All right, John, I got to take another break.

I don't want to come back.

I want to go in

and I want to talk to you about the ambassador that has been fired, what that story is all about, and

what kind of things were going on, do you believe now through your reporting in Ukraine during 2016?

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Welcome to the program.

I'm glad you're here.

We have John Solomon on from The Hill.

He is an award-winning investigative journalist, worked for the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, the Associated Press.

He's the executive vice president of The Hill.

He has been following this Ukraine story longer than I think anyone else

and is instrumental in understanding what really was going on.

He was investigating Joe Biden and all of these things long before the whistleblower, you know, was concerned about anything, long before Rudy Giuliani was involved.

John, let me just clarify one, let me go back to one question question about the whistleblower and what he said.

All of the evidence that is in this whistleblower's case, it all pretty much stems from your reporting because he says the timing of your stories and the meetings with Rudy Giuliani are just too coincidental.

Can you tell me that

did you look at anything in that whistleblower and go, well, gee, wait a minute,

were these stories routed my way without me knowing it?

Or were you contacted, hey, do these stories?

Is there anything to that?

There is not.

I will tell you that I choose the timing of my stories based on when I can get information confirmed through multiple sources.

And one of the challenges I had for a long time was that Ukrainian officials wanted to make allegations anonymously.

And I did not feel that was an appropriate way to tell the story so I worked extra long and extra hard almost a year to get some of these

stories written and corroborated and put on the record meaning actual documents or actual people on record all my interviews on with Ukrainian officials were videotaped they're on the Hill TV site you can see them I was as transparent as I could possibly be every document I obtained I tried to embed in a story unless it compromised a source's identity.

I have tried to be as open and honest about how I got the information, where it came from, who gave it to me.

And a journalist makes his decision not because a president's lawyer or a democratic lawyer or any other person wants it out.

We make that decision when we know we have enough information to be accurate and to be fair and to be complete and transparent.

And every decision I made to publish a story was made on on my timetable based on my journalistic training as to what the best time was to

break a story, to corroborate a story, to get fair comment.

And I think that's one of the silliness of this entire

narrative, which is anyone who's seen my career and the stories I've broken.

I've broken stories that have been big and controversial for many years.

The Bush administration criticized me after 9-11 until I really got the story out there about what happened about 9-11.

I've been an equal opportunity reporter my entire career.

And I've practiced journalism the same way whether President Trump was in office, President Clinton was in office, President Bush was in office, or President Obama.

And I think that that's the hard part: watching this narrative now

be trying to portray me as a journalist who is a shill for some cause.

The only cause I had was to get truth to the American people.

All right, John,

can you explain one part of this story that is new to me?

and that is the conversation between Trump and the new president of Ukraine in regards to the firing of a U.S.

ambassador?

Can you tell me her story?

Sure.

So Maria Ivanovich was an Obama-appointee career diplomat, by all accounts, an accomplished career diplomat.

And she was appointed after in the summer of 2016, when all of this stuff with Burisma was going on, when all the stuff with Fir Cash was going on, all of these complicated relations were going on in Ukraine.

So she comes in and then she stays on for President Trump for a couple of years.

I reported earlier this year that two things.

Prosecutor General Lucenko, now former prosecutor, but at the time

the current prosecutor,

gave an interview and he said, I have had problems dealing with your American ambassador because she came in almost as soon as she came in she met with me and she went over a list of names she did not want people to be prosecuted and and he backed up his story by actually giving me a letter from the embassy showing one really clear instance where the embassy actually said you will not pursue we don't want you to pursue a criminal case against this George Soros funded group called Antac

it's it's in bold writing wow The State Department sent a letter to Ukraine prosecutors saying, we don't want interfering in an internal prosecution in a sovereign nation saying don't prosecute these guys.

So he backed up his story and he went into great detail.

Before I broke that story, I took the list of names of people he said Ambassador Jovanovich and others had given him, and I went to the State Department, and State Department officials on background confirmed that some of those names were raised in conversations, and the United States raised concerns about Ukrainian authorities pursuing these organizations or people.

And so before I ever broke that story, I got confirmation from the State Department.

The story came out.

The embassy issued a denial, which, by the way, was in my story.

The day I broke the story, it was in my story.

So I gave the State Department side, even though on background they had confirmed some of these names have been done, and they had corroborated the letter that I possessed

in my story, and I posted in my story.

So that's the first time we knew there was a problem.

I also obtained a letter from a Republican congressman to President Trump that was a few months before Prosecutor General Lusenko, the Ukrainian prosecutor, gave me my interview.

In that letter, a Republican congressman who had just, I believe, returned from a trip to Ukraine said, I was overseas and there are a lot of people in Ukraine concerned that this ambassador is not representing your interest.

And, you know, the inference was that maybe she was badmouthing the Trump administration of the president.

So there was a second concern for why the president might want to remove Ambassador Yovanovich.

The third

instance comes in the conversation with President Trump.

And this is a remarkable thing.

The brand new president, President Zelensky, a comic and a reformer and somebody that a lot of the world is excited could possibly turn a corner for Ukraine, make Ukraine less corrupt, more integrated into the world community.

One of the first things he thanks President Trump for is for removing Ambassador Yovanovich.

And he said that she simply wouldn't recognize him and meet with him after his election and that he felt like she acted in such a way as to convey that she supported the old president whom he had defeated then rather than the recognize the new elected leader of Ukraine.

Those are the typical grounds for which an ambassador can be recalled.

Ambassador Jovanovich may not have done anything wrong, but when the country you're in no longer feels comfortable dealing with you, that is a legitimate grounds for recalling an ambassador and substituting someone else because we need to have a functional relationship with our allies.

That is why that happened.

And I think you look, there are several stories today attacking me

for writing that story about Ambassador Jovanovich.

I think President Zelensky's comments in the transcript validate why I wrote the story.

Yeah.

So, John, I'm going to take a quick break and I want to come back.

And

I want you to zoom out

if you can.

I think

I understand what's really going on, but I would like your guidance and, you know,

is this in the ballpark?

And

if I'm right, I am.

We are facing something that I'm not sure America has faced before.

This is an epic battle that is about to be

unleashed, and it really has very little to do with what the press is saying.

And I'll explain that and get your thoughts on that.

When we return with John Solomon, you can follow him at JSolomon Reports, executive vice president of the Hill, investigative journalist,

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John,

I don't know if this is a blessing or curse, but

I look at things big picture.

I'm not good at the small little details.

If I look at puzzle pieces, I'm trying to figure out what does this mean if you fit them all together?

What does the picture show us?

And I want to run this by you to see if I'm

on the right track.

I think in the end, what we may be looking at is that the Obama administration, the U.S.

State Department through his administration, and the DNC thought they kind of had Ukraine all locked down.

And there were people enriching themselves

through really shady deals like Biden.

But the DNC was using it through,

I think, NGOs to further their goals in a deep state sort of way.

Also had unofficial challenges to maybe get some of the dirty work done and some of the connections that nobody wanted anybody to have to find things like, you know, Donald Trump is one example of that.

And Biden is a small part.

of this.

Biden is really not the thing they're protecting.

What they're protecting is something really dirty was happening with Intel, justice,

and state in Ukraine.

And they're really protecting this.

And that's why the Democrats are freaking out so much and know they have to discredit this story.

Am I on the right track at all?

That's a great question.

Let me tell you something.

The very first time I entered into reporting in Ukraine, which was in the spring of 2018, so well over a year and a half ago, I met with a Ukrainian official who had been highly recommended by some of my U.S.

intelligence sources.

And I said to him, listen, we're winding down the Russia thing.

I'm pretty sure I know what happened on Russia, right?

It was a political, dirty trick.

There never was collusion.

And I think that's going to be the outcome of the Mueller report.

I had good sources inside the Mueller team, and I was pretty much certain by that time that Russia.

And the guy looked at me straight out and he said,

Ukraine is the Democrats Russia.

And I said, I'm sorry, what do you mean by that?

Well, if the story of Trump and

Russia colluding were true, the Democrats' problem is Ukraine.

They have this complicated relationship in Ukraine that involves pressuring the Ukrainian embassy.

And then you've got George Soros, a mega donor who plays a very big role in Ukraine through his NGOs.

You've got Joe Biden being the point person, Hunter Biden making money in the country.

Ukraine may have been both a piggy bank and a political dirty cherrix arena for the Democrats in the way that Donald Trump was portrayed with playing with Russia.

I thought that to be a very enlightened comment.

And I think the more we put facts together, that storyline seems to be unfolding.

We have a lot more that needs to be done.

I think there are things that Senate and the State Department and the United States government can do to give us more visibility on this.

But something was going on in Ukraine, and I'm not the only one who has said so.

The New York Times, the ABC News, Politico have all written very compelling stories raising questions about the Democrats' conduct in Ukraine and our own U.S.

government's conduct in Ukraine.

And I think that that may be the real story here.

The Democrats may not want people poking in their dirty laundry inside Kiev.

I feel strongly that

that is the right track.

Now, if that is,

there is more than just money at stake.

You are dealing with some of the nastiest

people,

George Soros being one of them, that have all kinds of strings.

You said it when you first got on.

Was the Intel agency listening to my phone calls?

Are they tracking me?

What are they doing?

I mean, it puts this story

becomes extraordinarily dangerous.

This puts you into the position of Woodward and Bernstein.

Yeah, I would never put myself in that category.

Those were two reporters that broke an epic story.

Listen, you're only as good as your next story, and we need to just keep digging.

And all of our, all reporters, myself included, should learn the lesson of Russia, which is presuming people are guilty before you have the facts is a bad idea.

The media harmed its credibility by convicting Trump before they knew what happened.

We shouldn't convict Hunter Biden or Joe Biden or anyone.

I agree.

We should get the facts.

The fact that people are holding back these facts does raise questions.

What is there to hide there?

Let's all dig in and find out.

But the problem is there's another narrative that is being spun by the press, and that will dismiss the real,

that will lead to,

you know, we've seen it with Clinton, we saw it with Russia, we see it over and over again.

People are just,

they're done with it.

By the time you get to the real thing,

they're done with it.

And the media is

running this other story that is flat out true.

And if this, if, I say, if this other is true,

it is going to blow the lid off of a lot of places and dramatically clean this country up.

Well, I've always believed transparency is the best solution for the country.

In our times of greatest crisis, being transparent and being honest has been the way that our country has gotten past controversy, crisis, impeachment, all the different things that have happened in our great history.

I think we will get transparency.

I think the lawsuit I'm fighting in the State Department, I think some things that Senators Grassley and Johnson are doing, I think some things that Dmitry Fertash's lawyers in Europe are doing, the Ukrainian oligarch who got crossways with Obama.

We're going to learn a lot.

And the key for me is not to overreact to all of these silly attacks.

Just go back and get another good story.

Keep reporting it out.

That's what I'm going to do.

And I know you will do that too.

John, thank you so much.

John Solomon from

The Hill,

I think

one of the last really great reporters that is not looking at things emotionally and just going for the facts.

You can follow him at J.

Solomon Reports.

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