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to the honorable richard burr chairman select committee on intelligence united states senate and the honorable adam shiff chairman permanent select uh committee on intelligence house of representatives dear chairman burr and chairman shiff i am reporting this is the whistleblower now this is august 12th 2019 i am reporting an urgent concern in accordance with the procedures outlined in 50 USC, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

This letter is unclassified when separated from the attachment.

In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S.

government officials that the President of the United States is using his power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S.

elections.

Wow, that's quite a charge.

The interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals.

The president's personal lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, is a central figure in this effort.

Attorney General Barr appears to be involved as well.

Okay, so I want to set this out from the outset.

In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S.

government officials.

So, in other words, what he's about to present, he has no first-hand knowledge of.

But even if he did, what he's saying, I don't know if there's a problem.

He said, over the past four months, more than half a dozen U.S.

officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort.

The information provided herein was relayed to me in the course of official interagency business.

It is routine for U.S.

officials with responsibility for a particular regional or functional portfolio to share such information with one another in order to inform policymaking and analysis.

So, in other words, I want you to know we're not doing anything weird here.

I was not a direct witness to most of the events described.

Let me read that again.

I was not a direct witness to most of the events described.

However, I found my colleagues' accounts of these events to be credible because, in almost all cases, multiple officials recounted a fact pattern that was consistent with one another.

In addition, a variety of information consistent with these private accounts has been reported publicly.

Now let me tell you something.

First of all,

we'll let you decide whether there's anything in this.

But I just I want you to know, I really truly believe we would have read this document differently had the press and the intelligence community not spent the last three and a half to four years trying to take this president down on everything.

This used to mean something when you'd have a so-called whistleblower.

But does anybody trust the press, the intelligence community, the DOJ, any of it?

They have so discredited themselves that you don't know what's real and what's not.

He says I am deeply concerned that the actions described below constitute a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, or violation of law or executive order that does not include differences of opinions concerning public policy matters.

It is consistent with the definition of an urgent concern in US C fifty blah, blah, blah.

I am therefore fulfilling my duty to report this information through proper legal channels to the relevant authorities.

I I am also concerned that these actions pose risk to the U.S.

national security and undermine the U.S.

government's efforts to deter and counter foreign interference in U.S.

elections.

To the best of

my knowledge, the entirety of this statement is unclassified when separated from the classified enclosure.

Stu, do we have the classified enclosure?

Was that?

There is a classified appendix which is attached to it.

Okay, only a little bit of black boxes, boxes, right?

Yeah, there's yes.

I have

endeavored to apply the classification standards outlined in Executive Order 13526 and to separate out information that I know or have reason to believe is classified for national security purposes.

If a classification

marking is applied retroactively, I believe it is incumbent upon the classifying authority to explain why such a marking was applied and to which specific information it pertains.

So here's his case.

One, the 25th July presidential phone call.

Now remember, we went over this yesterday.

And because you may have missed yesterday's show and maybe really only heard

the reporting with ellipses,

the media in newspaper, online, on television, on all fronts

used an ellipse, three, you know, dot, dot, dot, used the ellipse to skip over

about 540 words.

Now, I've never seen that done before, but they removed almost an entire page between I have a favor to ask

and could you look into Joe Biden.

What those ellipses took out was the president looking to say to the president of the Ukraine,

I need you to understand, we think you're surrounded by some of the bad guys that hacked into the DNC servers.

That server is still lost.

We need to know where that server is.

We think one of the oligarchs, maybe in your circle, has it or knows where it is.

We need to know that because we've been doing this investigation with Robert Moeller, and he's got nothing.

He's been looking into me.

He should be looking into Russia, and that those Russian oligarchs have infiltrated your oligarchs, and we think they're working together.

Now, that is national security.

That's doing what the Congress and everybody else should have been doing.

But they didn't.

So here's how they describe the phone call in this whistleblowers report.

Early in the morning of July 25, the President spoke by telephone with Ukrainian President Zelensky.

I do not know which side initiated the call, but this was the first publicly acknowledged call between the two leaders since a brief congratulatory call after Mr.

Zelensky won the presidency on April 21st.

Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that after the initial exchange of pleasantries, the President used the remainder of the call to to advance his personal interests.

Stu, fact-check.

Personal interests?

I mean, after they had

an exchange of pleasantries, the president used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests.

I mean, it certainly wasn't the remainder of the call.

There was other things discussed as well.

And you could certainly, if you want to take the worst reading of Trump's words, that they were only about his own personal interest,

then you could say that to some degree.

However, his personal interests seemingly align with a national interest in that if he had a vice president of the United States participating in corruption related to favoring his child

and also a bunch of money over a billion dollars disappearing, that would be of the national interest of the United States.

Sure would be.

But beyond that, you know it wasn't in his personal interest because he said, I need you to look into, apparently they call it crowd strike.

He didn't even understand what he was talking about.

It did seem like he was reading notes about what he was supposed to say.

He was briefed on here's what you need to tell them to further the Russian investigation.

That's a pretty big thing just to overlook because that was the main thrust.

of the call.

And if you watched, again,

you know, mainstream news last night, the way you understood everything we're talking about right now is dot, dot, dot.

And a less that they didn't cover this, they just said, I want you to do me a favor.

Can you look into Joe Biden and his son?

Incredible.

It's not what happened.

Doing this, so we should play at some point today.

Yeah, okay.

Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge inform me.

Namely, he sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the president 2020 re-election bid.

That is untrue.

He mainly listened to this.

he mainly sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions to help the president's 2020 reelection bid.

He did not pressure him,

first of all.

He did not ask him to take steps to help him in his re-election bid.

Right.

I mean, obviously, again, the worst reading of it, you could say that, right?

You could say he did use the word reciprocal.

He did ask for things.

And you could say if you're the president of Ukraine, the president of the United States is mentioning stuff.

It goes to the top of your heap of

things to do.

Of course it does.

Right.

So you can argue these things, but again, a lot of assumption here.

But that was not.

Yeah.

And that was not the first thing on the list.

The first thing on the list was help us investigate and stop Russia from taking your military apart and interfering in our elections.

We need this information.

Can you find this?

Totally legitimate.

Totally legitimate.

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All right.

Stu, have you seen anything big that

we have already read that we need?

Yes, there's one very big thing in here as part of the accusation that directly relates to this program and specifically today's radio program.

Because when they're talking about the circumstances leading up to the 25th of July presidential phone call, this is section 4,

they discuss

a series of articles, which they find suspicious, appearing in an online publication called The Hill.

The author of those stories is our guest in the third hour of the program, John Solomon.

John Solomon is

not a conspiracy theorist.

John Solomon is a well-known award-winning investigative journalist.

He worked for The Times.

He worked for The Washington Post.

He now runs

Associated Press.

He now runs the

editorial section for The Hill.

But he's done the investigative reporting on this, and he has been on this for years,

years.

This is not a Trump thing.

Now, what they're accusing, what they're basically saying in this complaint is to say Trump asks for this favor.

Hey, look into Biden.

There is a bunch of backroom dealings between them.

The threat of withholding funds may or may not have occurred, blah, blah, blah.

And one of the ways Ukraine is

helping Donald Trump and trying to win his favor is by

people in the Ukrainian government leaking information to essentially John Solomon at the Hill.

This is ridiculous.

This is a ridiculous, ridiculous charge.

John Solomon has been working on this story literally for years.

We have worked with him on this story.

We know him.

We know how it works.

We know who is also helping him with it.

We don't know all of his sources, but we also know how hard it has been to get anybody in Ukraine to actually help him and speak.

Especially when

Obama was in office.

Okay, so let's go through.

The president asked, pressured Mr.

Zelensky to initiate or continue an investigation into the activities of the former Vice President Joseph Biden and his son Hunter Biden.

Now you'll notice that these are flipped because that's not the first thing he did.

In the phone call, he did, what is bullet point number two, ask them to assist purportedly uncovering the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election that originated in Ukraine with specific requests that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by U.S.

cybersecurity from CrowdStrike, which initially reported that Russian hackers had penetrated the DNC's network in 2016.

So let me ask,

we have our foreign affairs and military expert here for military intelligence, Jason Patrol.

And Jason,

let me see if I have this right.

Is he asking

to

find

out

find where these things are and who is involved in helping Russia hack

the DNC servers?

Or is he saying here,

hey,

I want those DNC servers.

I want to see what's on those DNC servers.

Can you help me find those?

It sounds like, so I think this ties directly into what Stu was just talking about.

That's the section actually I'm like scrutinizing the most right now in this report is where he's referencing that Solomon article in the Hill.

All of these like cases, all of these instances that are bulleted out,

they're all kind of connected.

So they're all kind of centering around corruption, but they're all they

they they involve multiple different officials, not just uh Joe Biden his son so the crowd strike stuff it is involved and I think he was just looking I it sounded like CrowdStrike so so if anybody doesn't know this is a US firm

called CrowdStrike explain what they did they assisted in identifying who was involved with hacking the DNC so before they even knew you know how the heck this stuff got put on you know DCLeaks.com or whatever they went in to look and actually do the forensics the computer forensics to find out who was involved And they were the ones that were very pivotal in helping to identify that it was Russian intelligence.

So CrowdStrike looked into that.

They were like, okay, the Russians are involved.

We

U.S.

intelligence officials came to the same conclusion.

And then they also continued their work, and CrowdStrike found out, and this was not in his report, but they also found out that the Russians were involved in hacking the actual Ukrainian military.

Correct.

So there was a lot involved in the UK.

So, Stu, would you go back and find in yesterday's actual transcript what the president was asking for?

Because I think this is different than what he's saying here in this memo.

And let's start with the transcript from yesterday where he talks about CrowdStrike and what he was asking for.

And then we'll continue in this memo.

So far, nothing jumps out of the page.

We're a lot farther in this than we've gotten on air.

Nothing jumps out at me, but let's take it a line at a time.

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All right.

We're in this unclassified document now.

This is new, just released about 35 minutes ago.

We're on page two.

This is the whistleblower report that Chuck Schumer said was devastating, was just horrifying.

I have a theory on this because I just stumbled across this.

Now, in the report describing the president's call that we heard yesterday,

this whistleblower says

Trump wanted to initiate or continue an investigation in the activities of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, assist in purportedly uncovering the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S.

presidential election that originated in Ukraine with a specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee and examined by U.S.

cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike, which initially reported Russian hackers had penetrated the DNC's networks in 2016.

I'm telling you, this is what it is.

Jason, pay attention to this for a second.

See if you can track this down.

Find where

my thinking is flawed.

They want to find the servers used by the Democratic National Committee.

Why would you want those servers now?

You want those servers because you want to see what's on them because your theory is

that the Democratic National Committee was using foreign countries to find dirt on Donald Trump.

They did it through,

what was the name of that organization that did the dossier?

Fusion GPS.

Fusion GPS.

They did it through Fusion GPS.

So they were one removed.

But if you want to find out what really happened, is anything on those servers?

Those servers that the DNC used

are

lost, taken, used now by an oligarch,

apparently in the Ukraine.

Who has those servers?

Now, listen, he wants the servers.

He also said the president wanted to meet or speak with two

people, the president names explicitly, his personal envoys on these matters, Giuliani and Attorney General Barr, with whom the president referred multiple times in tandem.

Now, isn't it interesting?

Why would you use the Attorney General?

You want to do dirty business.

You don't get the Attorney General in unless Barr himself is dirty, which I don't believe.

There's no indication that Barr is a dirty guy.

Now, to the media, of course, there is.

I mean,

they would say that.

And that is an interesting point, though.

They are trying to use that as evidence that Trump is utilizing government resources for his own personal payment.

I'm saying that he's including Attorney General Barr, so he's got a credible witness on what he's doing, and he's talking to him, saying, Look, I think the Democrats went after me, and they were the ones with fusion GPS, and I think they used the Ukrainians, and they went through the Ukrainians to Russia to discredit me.

Now, listen to this:

They possessed evidence that Ukrainian officials, namely head of National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine and a parliament member, Lushenko, had interfered interfered in the 2016 U.S.

presidential election, allegedly in collaboration with the DNC and the U.S.

Embassy in Kyiv.

Now, so far, this doesn't tie together in my head until I read this.

The U.S.

Embassy in Kyiv, specifically the U.S.

Ambassador, Marie Yayanovich, who had criticized Mr.

Lushenko's organization for its poor record on fighting corruption had allegedly obstructed Ukrainian law enforcement agencies' pursuit of corruption cases, including by providing a do-not prosecute list, and had blocked Ukrainian prosecutors from traveling to the United States expressly to prevent them from delivering their evidence about a 2016 U.S.

election.

Now, isn't that interesting?

We know that this

ambassador has has been relieved at the U.S.

Embassy, and we know that the two presidents spent a great deal of time talking about her and how bad she really was.

Now she's gone.

But if she was obstructing people from coming to testify and to give evidence on the Russian

hacking or the Russian interference, forget about the DNC hack.

Think about

the fact that the DNC

could have, I'm not going to do to them what they do to Donald Trump, they could have, we know they did it through Fusion GPS, gone through Ukraine to say, can you dig up any dirt on Donald Trump?

That's on their servers.

Those servers are being held by by oligarchs that are not friendly to us.

And the reason why Nancy Pelosi flipped that fast, she's been against this the whole time.

The whole time.

There's no smoking gun here.

There might be some things that you need to look into, but there's no smoking gun.

And why they went in two days from, no, we're not going to impeach, we're in the middle of that, to impeach,

I think they are kicking dirt over their own tracks.

They're saying, look, this president was trying to find dirt on Joe Biden.

When indeed what he's trying to find out is, did the DNC try to find dirt on me

through Ukraine and Russia in the 2016 election?

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and all of them would know.

If that came out and that was proven,

they're done.

They're done.

Everything they've accused this guy of doing, they did.

I think that's in the national interest to find out.

Jason, what do you think?

I completely agree with you.

I'm very, it makes total sense now why the White House released this, because if you're looking at this critically, you don't see the Biden portion of what that's what everyone's making this story out to be.

It's all about Biden.

It's not.

That's a very minor bullet on this.

This is not about Biden.

This is not the favor that they were asking about, you know, how the media was reporting that yesterday, had nothing to do with Biden.

But you see how they're trying to center everything on Biden.

This is all about Attorney General Barr's investigation into the origins of

the Russia investigation.

That's what this entire story is about.

This whistleblower complaint, everything in here, that's what this is detailing.

Let me tell you something.

Heads are going to roll if some of these things are true.

If some of these things are true, heads are going to roll, and they're going to roll in the opposite direction.

I'm telling you right now, the reason why the DNC, just reading just to page five on this, my gut is telling me the reason why the DNC is doing this is because

they know this is a fight to the death.

Whichever one wins this fight, he either has to be impeached or we're exposed and we're doomed.

It's just which side do you believe?

Do you believe the DNC

could have

gone to Ukraine and said, hey, can you maybe talk to some sources in Russia?

Is there any dirt there on

Donald Trump?

If you think they could have done that,

and there might be something on their servers.

What the president and Attorney General, that's the weird thing.

If this is so corrupt, you have to then say Attorney General Barr is also nothing but a political hack.

And who knows, maybe maybe he is.

I don't get that impression.

I've never heard that said by people, you know, until we get into politics.

But he's been respected.

He seems to be doing the right things.

They keep trying to run him through the mud, and it proves that, nope, that's not what I did.

Well, it sounds like Attorney General Barr is literally just doing his job.

From what I'm reading on here,

if Solomon's report is accurate,

and that's bulleted in this complaint, is that basically their version of the Attorney General in Ukraine, their prosecutor general, he came to us with this.

It wasn't the other way around.

It wasn't Barr snooping around and saying, hey, did you have anything?

No, it says that he tried to, he found this evidence,

these cases of corruption within their own country, that Ukrainians were involved

with the DNC, and that this U.S.

ambassador was helping them block certain people from being prosecuted because they were basically playing on their side.

Right.

And I think that the way I think it's being presented by the whistleblower is

that was a result of this call and pressure, right?

Like these pressures that came from not only from the call itself, but also Giuliani beforehand, saying,

hey, you should go look at these things,

that they now have come back and this is the result, the fruit of that labor, right?

They're saying that, well, now they're going to, you're going to get big public officials from Ukraine leaking this information and trying to move public opinion in this manner.

Well, so because it says that these things happened in March, the call hadn't even happened yet.

No, the call 29th.

This is old stuff.

They're going to try to make it seem like it is a result of the phone call, but it's not.

All of this stuff, the ambassador stuff, that all happened before the phone call.

Right.

So what were they hiding?

Why was this ambassador?

We need to find out about the ambassador and find out about that.

Boy, do we have the right guy on today?

Because the guy who is said in this

classified, formerly classified document, the guy who's in this, the reporter that is the one that they're now saying is just, oh,

he's crazy.

He's dangerous.

He's going to be on with us in about an hour and 15 minutes.

You don't want to miss that.

Yeah.

Wow.

It's a good day for that.

Yeah, I mean,

it seems, I mean, at least the way I'm reading this, it seems like they are saying it's not just the call, right?

Like, the evidence is not just the call.

The call is the thing that we know about first, but it's not necessarily

the first thing that's happened.

Are you following what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Yeah, you're saying the call happened after this.

No, no, no, I know that.

But are you following what I'm saying about what Trump and Barr are actually looking for?

Which would be a knockout punch for him in 2020, but it would be a knockout punch for the for the DNC.

It would destroy the DNC because it would expose them of doing everything that they just said Donald Trump has been doing.

Yeah, no, I mean, clearly, I think that's definitely a

possibility, right?

I mean, we're the

I think like it's interesting to hear the media talk about this because the way they cover it and think about it if if you're looking at it from their perspective for a second, because it seems like they're just, oh, so, so crazy on this.

And they are.

And the reason why they are, though, is important, that they are completely eliminating any possibility of good intentions,

right?

So if you take out any possibility that Donald Trump actually cared about whether the election was manipulated, Well, for good reasons, not just how it affected him, but just like maybe he cares about the United States of America as president.

If you remove all of the possibilities of good intentions, this all looks bad, right?

You would also have to,

you have to do that, and that is a gigantic assumption.

And you can look, I'm not going to assume, I am going to assume the president is innocent until proven guilty.

How far are you?

Nothing shows that he was guilty.

There's no smoking gun here, but there is some, there are some disturbing things in this, but it works the other other way.

Now, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that, yes, he is a self-serving guy and he wants to win the election, but he also is driven by what really happened, where'd that dossier come from?

And that is in the national interest, even though it is in his interest as well.

That's what I think this really is all about.

How did this Russian investigation start?

Did the DNC go and use Ukraine?

This ambassador was blocking things.

You guys are rumored to have the servers.

We know that Russia was interfering with you guys.

We know now that

this ambassador was blocking all of this investigation and blocking any testimony and prosecutions.

What's really going on here?

I think this is going to be the fight to the death, and it has nothing to do with what you are seeing in the media.

I will give the DNC the benefit of the doubt.

I will give, I've already said what Joe Biden did is grotesque, but it's not criminal, but it is grotesque, and you should know about it.

But again, not criminal.

This is criminal.

One of these guys is right.

Will the left and the media give the benefit of the doubt to Donald Trump as we look into this?

Because this is not a one-sided game.

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And I think we are seeing the battle of the deep state

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But these two Titans are coming and it will not go away.

If I'm right, one of these, only one of these is left standing.

And this has nothing to do really with the election for the Democrats.

Which explains Pelosi and Schumer and all of the flip-floppers.

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It's confusing because it's actually presented out of order.

We've been going back and forth on this timeline where you're saying these things happened after the call, when it does seem to indicate that what their point is that Giuliani was meeting with these people before the articles came out in January and February.

In March, the articles came out.

So the idea is that Trump outreach caused these things to happen.

We'll go get into this here more in a second.

There's still a bunch to read.

But again, I'm not saying I believe that case, but I think that's the case.

This will be a fight to the death.

This is a serious, serious charge

both ways

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Hello, America.

Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Today,

we're just trying to make sense of this new unclassified document.

Yesterday we got the phone call.

Today, we have the whistleblowers document that has been hidden from the American people, and I think it says a lot.

However, I'm not sure that it says a a lot about Donald Trump.

I think this is a battle of the Titans.

I think this says a lot about what the DNC

is now trying to cover up.

And it has very little to do with Joe Biden.

I think Joe Biden is a red herring.

And we'll give you this and continue reading this document and parsing it out as we go in one minute.

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Yes, I am.

It's the Glenn Beck program.

And we're going over the Select Committee on Intelligence report from the whistleblower.

And we found some interesting things.

Stu,

can you just kind of cover what we've already covered in a condensed condensed form?

Yes, I think I can.

Going through the timeline is a little difficult.

We talked a little bit about this last

time,

last hour.

The accusation from the whistleblower essentially revolves around a few things.

This call that we all talked about yesterday, where Trump

talks to him about Biden, talks to the president of Ukraine about

crowd strike and these big issues related to the election.

That is part of the accusation.

Again, this person

says that they were not a direct witness to basically any of these events.

Okay, so it's important to know.

It's all secondhand information from this person.

So to us, it's third and fourth hand.

So

she or he goes through this.

Why do you think it's a she

said she or he?

Well, no, should I say they them?

No, you've been saying she all morning.

They them?

No, you've been saying she all morning.

I don't want to assign a gender

to this particular person.

I don't know if you knew something that I didn't know because you keep saying she, and then you bait me.

Don't bait me.

All right.

So

basically, this person is accusing there being

a problem there.

Okay.

They go on to say one of the big issues that is an indicator here is that they slid

these transcripts over to a much highly, much more highly secured computer system, one that would not normally hold such transcripts.

So if the transcript that we got yesterday, the phone call, they say there's nothing, there was nothing secret about this.

Why is it not top, top secret?

Again, and this is their case.

Yeah.

Why did the White House move this transcript

and actually the actual digital recording over to a super secure top secret, which is not usually done for something that would just contain this kind of language.

Right.

And so the accusation is they knew there was a problem in this call, and therefore they did this to hide it from people.

We can get into the alternate explanation to that here in a second, which I think when you lay out the whole case, fits pretty well as to why they would do this.

But this is the accusation.

We're just going through the accusations here.

Now, we are going on the assumption of a couple of things.

One, we're not going to assign motive.

However, we will look at past actions and take that into account.

And no one is guilty.

You have to prove them guilty.

We will assume that both the DNC and Donald Trump are innocent.

But we're trying to figure out a couple of things.

One, this is not a smoking gun.

If you make this about Joe Biden and you make this about this phone call, this is not a smoking gun.

So why,

after all this time of never going for impeachment, why did people suddenly flip without any information and they immediately went, impeachment, he's got to be removed.

They've made this the battle, right?

And it wouldn't work out to their advantage.

So what is it?

Are they just really crusaders?

Or is there something else going on?

Well, we've kind of stumbled into something

in this reading of this memo.

This is not about Joe Biden.

This memo has very little to do with Joe Biden and his son.

I believe that's the cake and the circus for the masses.

That's what has been given to the media because the media can understand, mmm, Trump bad, Joe Biden good.

Okay?

And so they're giving that to the masses, but that's not the show that's really happening.

That is misdirection, because as you look in this, it has very little to do with Joe Biden.

The case that Trump seems to be making in this

and the reason why I think he has attorney bar on all of this.

Yeah, okay, well, you got to talk to our attorney general.

You can only say

that if Donald Trump needs to be impeached, then our attorney general is in on it from the start.

And that may be.

I don't think so, but that may be.

Or is it that Donald Trump has a theory

that is pretty sound?

And

he's investigating it because he doesn't trust anyone,

but he trusts Attorney Barr.

So you have Attorney General Barr

going and shadowing with Rudy Giuliani.

And what is it that they're looking for?

We're going to lay this all out for you here in just a few minutes, and I'll answer all those questions, but I want to get back into this memo so you have all of it.

We left it at the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature.

One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective.

Or did it?

I do not know whether similar messages or measures were taken to restrict access to other records of the call, such as contemporaneous handwritten notes by those who were listening in.

Three, ongoing concerns.

This is the whistleblower.

On 26 July, day after the call, U.S.

Special Representative for Ukraine negotiations, Kurt Volcker, visited Kiev.

By the way, we should explain Kiev.

Kiev is what we've always grown up saying, but that is because that was the Soviet name, and the people in Ukraine actually find that offensive.

The name is not pronounced Kiev.

That was the Soviet translation and the Soviet renaming and kind of just a dig and a little salt in the wound for Ukraine.

The same way that they say the Ukraine.

We're all used to that.

It's supposed to be just Ukraine.

It is a sovereign nation.

So you'll notice U.S.

diplomats, you notice Biden in the video saying Kiev because it's seen as a measure of respect for Ukraine as a sovereign nation.

And I keep saying, I got Kiev.

I keep saying the Ukraine, and it's not.

They're both pirates.

All right.

26th July, day after the call, U.S.

Special Representative Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volcker visit Kyiv and met with President Zelensky and a variety of Ukrainian political figures.

Ambassador Volcker was accompanied in his meetings by U.S.

Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sonderland.

Based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me by various U.S.

officials, Ambassadors Volcker and Sondlin reportedly provided advice to the Ukrainian leadership on how to navigate the demands that the president had made of Mr.

Zelensky.

I also learned from multiple U.S.

officials that on or about 2nd of August, Mr.

Giuliani reported he traveled to Madrid to meet with one of President Zelensky's advisors.

The U.S.

officials characterized this meeting, which was not recorded publicly at the time, as a direct follow-up to the President's call with Mr.

Zelensky about the cases they had discussed.

Separately, multiple U.S.

officials told me that Mr.

Giuliani had reported privately reaching out to a variety of other Zelensky advisors, including chief of staff and acting chairman of the security service of Ukraine.

I don't know whether those officials met or spoke with Mr.

Giuliani, but I was told separately by multiple U.S.

officials that Mr.

Yermak and Mr.

Bakanov intended to travel to Washington in mid-August.

On August 9th, the president told reporters, I think President Zelensky is going to make a deal with President Putin and he'll be invited to the White House.

And we look forward to seeing him.

He's already been invited to the White House and he wants to come, and I think he will.

He's a very reasonable guy.

He wants to see peace in Ukraine, and I think he'll see it coming very soon, actually.

End

So, what is all of this about?

If you remember in the phone call, Mr.

Zelensky asked for Rudy Giuliani to come.

Can you brief me on these things?

Can you help us?

And Zelensky was already aware of all of the corruption that Mr.

Trump was talking about.

Now, the circumstances leading up to the July 25th presidential phone call, according to the whistleblower, we're reading the the transcript as it was given to the House and the Senate earlier this morning.

Beginning in late 2019, a series of articles appeared in an online publication called The Hill.

These articles, several Ukrainian officials, most notably Prosecutor General Yuri Lusenko, made a series of allegations against other Ukrainian officials and current and former U.S.

officials.

Mr.

Lusenko and his colleagues alleged, according to John Solomon at the Hill, who, by the way, is coming up in about 40 minutes, to the very best of my knowledge.

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

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That was four, so I got to go to five now.

Hang on, let me page.

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It was taken out of order.

So let me find page five.

Give me one minute, and we'll come back to this.

Here it is.

I got it.

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Now,

Mr.

Lusenko from

Ukrainian government

alleged that the Ukraines possessed evidence that Ukrainian officials, namely head of National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine and member of parliamentary

Serhi Lyshenko, had interfered in the 2016 U.S.

presidential election, allegedly in collaboration with the DNC and the U.S.

Embassy in Kyiv.

That's quite a charge.

The U.S.

Embassy in Kyiv, specifically U.S.

Ambassador

Marie Yavanovich, who had criticized mister Lizenko's organization for its poor record in fighting corruption, had allegedly obstructed Ukrainian law enforcement agencies' pursuit of corruption cases, including by providing a do not prosecute list, and had Ukrainian prosecutors banned from traveling to the United States, especially to prevent them from delivering their evidence about the 2016 U.S.

elections.

Also, that former Vice President Biden had pressured former Ukrainian President Petro Proshenko in 2016 to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor general, Viktor Shorkin, in order to quash a purported criminal probe into Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company on whose board the former Vice President's son, Hunter, sat.

Now,

what's interesting about this

is

this is

what Trump is operating on.

This is the part that the media will never tell you about.

They'll say he was just after Joe Biden.

He was asking for a favor.

He pressured.

No, no.

The countercharge, the other side of this is

that the DNC working with the former government that thought they would be in power forever, The Democrats had absolutely, nobody had any idea that that government was going to be overturned by a comedy talk show host.

Okay, remember, this is the guy who's like the Jon Stewart of Ukraine.

He's the guy the president was talking to.

And the reason why he won, he never did any debates.

He never did anything.

He never stated policy.

He just said, this is all insane.

And we're corrupt and it's got to stop.

Nobody would have thought he won.

So the Democrats, if this is true, the Democrats thought

they have all of the hatches closed.

There's no water going to be leaking out of this.

We're all fine.

The allegation is from Luchenko was that the government at the highest levels,

in collusion with our U.S.

ambassador,

appointed by Obama, right?

Was

they were all working together.

The DNC had come over and said, hey, we need some dirt on Donald Trump.

And

the Ukrainian government, working through oligarchs, went to Russia and helped gather information.

Then when the 2016 Russian investigation was happening,

they were firing and

bribing everybody to shut up, and the ambassador was stopping people to come to the United States to say, hey, this is what's really going on.

That's what Trump is asking for.

And Trump is asking for

the Russian hacked servers

because what's on their servers?

What's on their servers?

Did any of them, were they saying, hey, can you find out some information on Donald Trump?

now he's not doing this just with rudy giuliani he's doing this with the attorney general

and the attorney general denies we should point out the attorney general says that there was bar barr says he was not involved in this at least as it to the to the extent of

in anything like what what what happened in the call right so oh yeah yeah he's saying that because in the call

trump says i want you to talk to barr i want you to talk to giuliani barr says he did not have those conversations Now, Giuliani has publicly admitted he has had them.

Right.

But just to be clear, to give Barr.

He may not have had those conversations.

It may not have risen to his level.

Who knows?

We don't know where.

I'd be interested to see if Barr knew about any of this.

But what you just laid out explains perfectly, in my mind, about the thing that, Stu, you brought up with

the computer system, with the conversation in the White House being transferred over into that classified

record keeping.

Right.

This is one of the things that they say is a piece of evidence that shows they were trying to hide it.

And I think it can be just as easily interpreted the other way.

Yeah, well, I mean, if you think about, I mean, as is,

if you look at that conversation, just the mere fact that he mentioned Biden and that scandal does not constitute, who cares?

Like, even if that got out, it might look bad, but it's not going to...

Sure.

It's not going to warrant them putting a classification on this and throwing it over there.

But if everything you're looking into, if all of the, if what if what you Glenn just laid out is accurate, then you don't want the Obama holdovers in the White House getting wind of that.

You don't want intelligence knowing about that.

Especially if you think about it from Trump's perspective.

He's very suspicious of intelligence.

He's had bad experiences with them.

But what he's alleging here is, and we have evidence to back up that

things like this have happened.

That what he's alleging is that Obama and the DNC

worked with the intelligence agency and the

government of Ukraine to try to dig up dirt on Donald Trump to stop his campaign.

Well, if I'm having conversations about, you know, making sure I do not want the intelligence community, I do not want the DNC, the Obama holdovers.

I don't want anyone knowing about it, but I do want a trail of it someplace.

Don't delete it.

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And quite honestly, so does mine now.

All right, there's a couple of things that we have learned from this whistleblower testimony, and you're not going to get this from, I don't think you're going to get this from anybody else.

They're all going to be talking about Joe Biden and this whistleblower and his credibility and everything else.

This is not about Joe Biden.

This is the next step you will hear is you're going to start hearing people when it starts to be understood for what it is, you're going to start hearing things like that Trump is a conspiracy theorist.

Well,

if I'm reading this document correctly and I'm looking at these two sides and I assume that the that Donald Trump

is doing the things that this whistleblower is saying, which we've already found he has been discredited because what he said was in the memo was not in the memo.

However,

he's making some strong allegations.

Let's take them at face value and say, yes, I accept that Trump is doing this.

Quite honestly,

as I understand what they're saying here, I think I would have done exactly the same thing as President of the United States.

And I would have done it for national security reasons.

Now, Trump may have other reasons to do it,

and I can't answer to that, and nor can anyone else.

But if you look at what he's saying,

I would have made sure this didn't go to Congress.

I would have made sure that this was in the top-level drawer that the super secret stuff is put, because I didn't want anyone from my party, the Democrats, I wouldn't want anyone to know.

I think what the president was on to is deep state.

Because if you look at this, it's the intelligence that is

wheedling this out.

It's the Democrats that are wheedling this out and saying, oh, no, he's doing something really bad.

But

what is it that he's looking for?

He's looking for collusion of corruption in Ukraine with the DNC.

We talked about how earlier.

I can't hear you.

Can we turn Jason's mic on, please?

Go ahead.

Here we go.

We talked about earlier about how you said the Obama administration did not plan to lose what they had built in Ukraine.

They did not expect this comedy show host to completely upend the Ukrainian politics.

And so, you know,

we were all over Ukraine.

And I think we were on the wrong side, quite honestly.

We were all over Ukraine during the Obama administration.

This, and you're exactly right.

I cannot believe this reminded me of another show show we did on foreign lobbying and I just really quickly looked up to see how embed the Democrats were in Ukraine when all this turmoil was going on this is about a year ago the research you did this is yeah about a year this is absolutely insane so there are lawyer Obama lawyers there's strategists there's lobbyists they are all over the place this is just a quick little list but uh the former Obama White House counsel Greg Craig was involved in Ukraine the chief strategist wait a minute his personal counsel kind of like Rudy Giuliani Right.

Interesting.

Okay.

Chief strategist for Bernie Sanders, Tad Devine.

He was involved in Ukraine.

John Podesta's brother, Tony Podesta.

Which is the guy who shut down his consulting firm the minute it was found that there was dirty goings on in Ukraine.

And it was a bizarre move.

You're like, wait a minute, why did you shut down?

You've just disappeared.

What happened?

And he got tied up with Manafort, which was a part of the larger Russia investigation.

Exactly right.

Chief strategist for Hillary Clinton, Mark Penn, he was involved in Ukraine.

Two Obama pollsters, a minor pollster, John Alazone, and

the Obama campaign's lead pollster, Joel Beninson.

He was also working in Ukraine.

They are all over the place.

Right.

So their pollsters most likely were over there to help the president get re-elected.

So they're helping.

They're helping this former administration, which was totally corrupt, helping them stay in power, get in power.

The president's personal attorneys are over there.

Their strategists are over there.

Hillary Clinton's chief strategist is over there.

Tony Podesta is over there, all wrapped up into this.

And it's all right around the 2016

campaign.

So they're helping them.

And they all happen to be there while Trump is running.

And

we're expected to believe that Hillary Clinton's people didn't say, hey, can you guys find any, I mean, is there any dirt on Donald Trump?

We're expected to believe that they were perfect angels.

Her chief strategy was there for crying out loud.

Chief strategist.

Okay, so

this is what Trump is really looking for.

Trump is looking to finish the Russian investigation.

They pinned this all on him.

And he's saying, you know what?

I don't trust the press.

There's nobody in the press that can do this.

I don't trust intelligence agencies.

I don't trust the FBI, and they don't have jurisdiction on this anyway.

I don't trust anyone.

Rudy,

go over there,

keep Attorney General Barr in the loop so he knows what's going on.

Don't tell the State Department.

Don't tell anyone.

Because what they're saying is

the Trump response is it was a corrupt country.

It was corrupt, and it was being run really by the Obama White House.

They were helping.

They were embedded on everything.

When I started to run,

they started this Russia thing.

We know that Fusion GPS

was hired by the Democrats to go get that dirt in Russia.

We know that Russia had people involved with the oligarchs in Ukraine.

So

are we to believe that they know nothing, that the Democrats had nothing?

And by the way, those DNC servers are somewhere held by a corrupt oligarch in Ukraine.

And so the president of the United States is saying, I got to find those servers.

He is doing a Russia investigation on his own and not telling anyone about it.

He's not erasing it.

He's just putting it in secure vaults so no one can see it.

I would do exactly the same thing because I do believe this government is corrupt.

I do believe that there are people, especially in the State Department, that think they know better than everybody else.

And exactly what is, if there's no deep state in our country, will you at least admit a deep state with Brexit in England?

That is the definition of deep state.

The people just are too stupid to understand.

Yeah, they voted, but we'll overturn that.

That is what's happening in Europe.

That's what's happening in England.

That's what's happening here.

And Donald Trump, and it may all be for personal reasons, but this is what the people hired him to do, honestly, was go in and shut this deep state,

shut this swamp down where everybody's enriching themselves, everybody's playing a game, and you don't know about it.

I think that's what's happening.

And that's why this will be the battle to death.

And quite honestly,

I hope to God the security on this new president in Ukraine is good because this guy is fighting

all of, he's fighting Russia.

He's fighting the oligarchs.

He's fighting now the DNC.

He's fighting the most corrupt.

I mean, keep an eye on the Clintons.

He's fighting all of the most dangerous people in the world.

And you're going to hear this now, just called a conspiracy theory.

But so was the caliphate.

If we find out Zelensky was recruiting 14-year-olds to a Miami mansion, we know what's going down.

That's when we know.

It's kind of fascinating to watch it kind of all play out.

I don't, you know,

you see.

everyone kind of rushing to their side.

And I think we learned in the Mueller investigation,

the best approach is to sit here and look at the information as it comes out and try to analyze whether it was correct or not.

I mean, just think of how excited people on both sides got over the Mueller investigation over a two-year period.

How many days were wasted chasing rumors and things that we didn't understand at the end of the investigation for all the complaining about the investigation and for all the praising of the investigation?

What we got at the end was something that basically said Trump did nothing that would warrant impeachment.

And so, you know, at the end of the day, I think like the more we're able to look at this information in a sober fashion and look at it and wait for the actual results to come out, the better we're going to do with it.

So one, both sides have everything to lose.

And the reason why I say this is a battle to the death, I thought it was very, very weird that it came out of Nancy Pelosi.

First of all, that Nancy Pelosi, without any evidence, all of a sudden got to take him down.

Enough is enough.

It's fascinating.

No good answer answer for that unless you look at this whistleblower's report from a different point of view.

And if you look at it from a different point of view, Nancy Pelosi and the DNC would know you've got to stop him.

You've got to discredit him.

You have to trash him.

He's got to be over or we're exposed for all the games that we played in the 2016 election and beyond.

We got to stop it.

And I believe there will be people on the GOP that will have the same kind of connections, who have made the same kind of money, et cetera, et cetera.

They won't want to be exposed either.

But I found it interesting.

Not only did Nancy Pelosi flip-flop on something where they had no evidence.

Well, now I understand it,

but there's something else that sticks out.

That Nancy Pelosi released

right before, right, was it, yeah, right after

she spoke and said impeachment.

They released that President Trump had made a personal phone call to Nancy Pelosi and he said, isn't there some sort of deal we can make here?

And Nancy Pelosi's office reported, she said, no deal, Mr.

President.

Tell your people to obey the law and hung up.

And that bothered me because I thought, what kind of deal could be made?

What do I mean,

if that was even true,

why would he make that phone call?

What kind of deal could he make?

Oh,

I know.

We're in mutually assured destruction.

Whether the president would use this for ultimate power or expose it, I don't know.

But this is mutually assured destruction.

One of these has to win.

One of these has to win.

They're either going to completely discredit and impeach Donald Trump, or Donald Trump and his allies will expose them for what they were doing if indeed they were doing this in Ukraine.

I don't think it's a far stretch to believe,

to not believe either of those or both of those could be true.

We'll give you more on this coming up in just a second.

You check on John Solomon.

Give me an update on John Solomon here in a second.

John Solomon, he's the guy who's mentioned in this report.

Supposed to be on with us here in a few minutes.

But

we had a hitch a few minutes ago, and I just want to see if he's still going to be on with us.

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Yep.

We're trying to figure out, because this impeachment hearing, this doesn't make any sense on any level.

There's no smoking gun.

You know, Nancy Pelosi said, strike while the iron is hot.

The iron isn't hot.

Most people do not want the president to be impeached, and that's some Democrats, too.

They just don't want, they see it as a waste of time and a waste of money.

You've got an election coming up.

So why is this happening right now?

There's a few theories.

One of them is it's going to come out if what Giuliani and Trump are saying is going to come out.

You've got to discredit.

You've got to muddy the waters.

You've got to make it like a

whataboutism

and try to make it about Joe Biden.

I mean, I'm starting to think that they're actually throwing Joe Biden to the wolves here

because they've got a bigger pot of gold that they are trying to protect.

So they're going to make this about Joe Biden because that's all you're hearing about.

This is nothing to do with Joe Biden.

If the whistleblower's testimony is

true

and this is what Donald Trump is doing, I'm actually...

I was like, well, you know, I was with Ben Sasse.

Let's wait.

And I still am.

Let's wait.

But I am starting to see if this is true, what Donald Trump is doing, I'm actually with him.

I think he was right to do it.

And he may have been doing it for selfish reasons, but this is the deep state, and that's what's being protected right now.

This isn't about Joe Biden.

This is about the DNC and the deep state of the State Department, the deep state in intelligence, all of the crooked people that were behind the fusion GPS report and leaking it to the press.

This one is

this one's a big, nasty hairball that if he rolls this down and he gets this right, he's gonna take them all out.

Press everybody, everybody's gonna be taken out on this one.

It's a big deal.

This is the kind of stuff that starts wars, quite honestly.

This is the kind of stuff that, you know, people, you know, start to snuff people out.

And, And, you know, you have a Archduke Ferdinand happen in Ukraine.

This is dangerous, dangerous stuff.

You have to keep calm and carry on.

And

don't listen to those who are screaming and shouting.

Listen and use reason.

Fix it firmly in her seat and question with boldness everything.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

Seems to be

you know, I had a different show planned for you today because we didn't expect

We didn't expect this report to come out until later on.

And I urge you to listen to tomorrow's show

because the empire is striking back, and

it is striking back

all around the globe.

It's not just the impeachment, and this is not about Donald Trump, and it's not about

Joe Biden.

This is about something much, much deeper.

You have trouble in the banking community.

No one knows what it even is.

That should tell you something.

The British Supreme Court just eviscerated

the Prime Minister over in England and he is defiant and he said, I will tie myself to the mast of the ship and we are not turning away from Brexit from Brexit.

There is

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I haven't gotten to a single thing that I wanted to talk about today

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because we have this nonsense going on about the impeachment hearings.

But as we look at the whistleblower,

a timeline emerges, and it's not about Joe Biden.

It's not about anything Nancy Pelosi or the media are telling you it is about.

What is this really about?

It is disturbing, but I don't think in the way the media or the Democrats think, I think this is an epic battle of the Titans.

And if I were Donald Trump and if I were the GOP, I would stop playing

defense right now.

Don't defend it.

Go on offense.

Make sure they're having to answer the questions about what's in this whistleblower's report.

Can you explain these things?

It's time for the president to go on defense and forget about everything that they're trying to do to him because I believe this is a battle

between the two Titans and only one is going to be standing in the end.

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So

I'm writing to Chris Stewart,

a friend of the program and a friend of mine.

And as I'm writing to ask him, hey, you have insight on this document, I look up the TV and there he is talking to the director of national intelligence.

He just walked out of the hearing room to make the call, and he's on with us now, Congressman from Utah, Chris Stewart.

How are you, sir?

Glenn, it's good to be with you.

You're the only guy I'd walk out of the hearing for.

I think you're foolish for doing it.

You have a front row seat, literally a front row seat.

Tell me what you think this is really, what's really going on here?

Well, it's nothing that we haven't seen for three years, and that's just not shocking.

It shouldn't surprise anyone.

This is a concerted effort by by Democrats to

repeal and rescind the 2016 election.

It's what they've been doing since the very day Donald Trump was elected.

And Glenn, it's not going to be successful.

There's just nothing here that is impeachable.

And if I could make this point, I think it's a fair point.

I'm not here to protect the president.

I'm not here to protect anyone.

We just want to know the facts, but the facts just don't bear this out, unlike in previous impeachments.

I mean, with Richard Nixon, the American people understood that that was wrong.

There was a break-in.

There was a cover-up.

There was obstruction of justice.

With Bill Clinton, the American people knew that it was wrong for him to be with an intern, and it was wrong for him to lie to a grand jury.

And what in the world are you going to commit?

How in the world do you convince the American people that there's an impeachable offense here?

Because he asked a foreign leader to investigate what he thought was corruption.

And I think most Americans look at that and listen to that and go, well, why in the world should we remove him from office for that?

Yeah.

And, you know, Chris, as I read this, because because I read this this morning and you had access to it yesterday, as I was reading this this morning, I don't think this is about Joe Biden.

This is really all about the Russia investigation.

What was going on,

you know, when Obama was in office?

Were the Democrats using the Ukrainians?

to look for dirt on Donald Trump.

And, you know, that crowd strike server thing is disturbing if you look at it from a different point of view then you all of a sudden go wait a minute that would explain why he would take this transcript and put it into an encrypted form that no one can get to unless subpoenaed by by the Congress no one can get into this because he's showing I think he's trying to make the case of a deep state

am I wrong I think there's no I think there's much more that we got got to learn there.

And you know what, with the CrowdStrike, there's just so much to this that many people are overwhelmed by it.

But the essence of that is just exactly as you've described it.

And by the way, this thing too about whether this document was stored in a highly classified server,

we have no idea whether that's standard for conversations between the head of state, and it certainly isn't criminal, and it may not be outside of the norm at all.

So I mean, some people are trying to make a big deal of that, as if that's part of the cover-up.

But A, again, we have no idea if that's not standard, and B, it doesn't mean anything anyway.

So, Ben Sasse, I mean, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said exactly what I would expect them to say, and that is, oh, this is very disturbing.

I read this and it's very, and so I read this today with an open mind thinking, okay, I'm going to find something disturbing.

I haven't found it, except I think I found a reason where all of it makes sense on what Trump is doing and what they're accusing him and why they flip so hard and made this their key to destroy him finally.

But I, I, what did Ben Sas?

Do you have any idea?

Did you see anything in here?

Because Ben Sas said, look, there's some things in here that I think we need answers to questions on, and, you know, you shouldn't circle the wagons.

And I agree with all of that.

I'm not here to protect the president.

I want the truth.

But

is there anything in here that stuck out to you?

Well, I mean, I went into this with

a little bit of anxiety.

You never know what to expect.

And in this world, heaven's sakes, you never know what to expect, right?

Right.

And I was fearful that there might be something to this, some surprise to this.

And I read it carefully.

I read it two or three times.

I took notes.

And at the end of this, which was late yesterday afternoon,

to be honest with you, Glenn, I was much more confident that this president was not going to be impeached than I was before I read the document.

Once again, I said, is this it?

I mean, is that really all there is to this?

And I think, again, look, it doesn't matter if you get to 217 votes in the House.

You have to convince the American people.

And the American people have to have had a consensus among them that this president has committed high crimes and misdemeanors and he should be removed from office.

And I don't think there's a chance in the world that this document convinces the American people of that.

And you talk about Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer being disturbed, but Glenn, they've been disturbed for three years.

Yeah, but here's the thing.

This is the part that doesn't fit, Chris, that Nancy Pelosi has been against this.

This makes no sense.

She's been against this the whole time.

Why, all of a sudden, with nothing, does she say, this is it.

Got to strike while the iron is hot.

The iron isn't hot.

The American people, even Democrats, are not for impeachment.

Yeah, you know what, Glenn, I think there's actually a fairly simple explanation for that, and it's two elements to it.

Number one is, and this is just obvious, and you know this, and that is that she just finally reached a point with

her own party, her own caucus, that she couldn't do nothing.

And I think the genesis of that little seven moderates who represent moderate districts and have in the past have been kind of a buffer for her.

When they wrote that

editorial over the weekend, I think she felt like she had to respond to this.

But at the the same time, the second element to this is this, she's not serious about this effort.

If she was serious about an impeachment inquiry, that requires a vote on the House floor.

She has to put her members on record of saying, yes, we are seeking impeachment.

And she hasn't done that.

She's trying to split the baby.

She's saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to start an impeachment inquiry, and we're going to do it by doing the same thing we've been doing for the last

nine months.

And that's the committee's doing the same thing.

She's not serious about this inquiry, or she would have the vote and compel her members to say, yes, I want to proceed.

And she hasn't done that.

All right.

The guy who you just questioned, he is the director of national intelligence.

He's the guy who stopped the memo from coming out and be given to Congress.

They're saying that this is unprecedented.

No whistleblower has ever been kept in the history of our country from Congress.

Is that true?

What do you make of

this and his testimony?

Yeah, it's true, but there's a reason for that.

And that is we've never had a whistleblower complaint that was an accusation against the President of the United States.

And so then you have elements of executive privilege.

And the second thing that he had to consider, the law compelled him to consider, is was this outside of the jurisdiction of the Director of Intelligence, which it was.

And look, Mr.

Maguire, as I was adamant in my defense of him, this is a man of clear integrity.

He found a deficiency and ambiguity in the law and did not know what to do.

He wasn't trying to obstruct.

He wasn't trying to protect the White House.

He simply didn't know what legally he could do in this situation.

And I think he did the only thing that he could do.

You go to the office of legal counsel and you seek their advice.

That's what they're there for.

So to create this narrative of my Democratic colleagues, and they attacked his integrity so often

and so repeatedly.

as if he's the problem.

And then I said to them, if you think you're going to win on this by trying to convince the American people people that this is a political stooge sitting before us, good luck on that.

Because if anyone watches this hearing for even a few minutes, it's very clear.

This is a military officer who has served his nation for 36 years.

He's not here for political ambitions.

He's here to serve his country, and that's what he was trying to do.

So

it was a threat to the national security, according to this whistleblower.

It's a threat to the presidency itself and the country.

Who does it?

What should he have done?

You say, well, it wasn't in his jurisdiction.

So can't he pass that to somebody's jurisdiction?

Or, you know,

he said, he was asked, well, did people investigate this?

And they did.

What did they find?

Or why did it not go to someone else?

Well, and it gets a little bit complicated, Glenn, and

I don't want to bore you with some of the technical legalities, but I mean, what it comes down to is this.

At what point, and it's not whether he had to, I mean, the objection of my Democratic colleagues is that he didn't do it immediately, but he had a 14-day window where he could seek legal counsel and make a decision.

And it's apparent that, again, he and the Inspector General were in disagreement and a bit of a loggerhead.

And I think that we have to realize, as I said, the law is deficient on this, and we need to address the law.

But,

I mean, this information, as a member of Congress,

and I've made this clear repeatedly over the years, my job and the thing that I protect is allowing Congress to provide its oversight, allowing Congress to have access to this information.

And I've always said this should come to Congress.

But I recognize in this case, there was a complicated legal process before it could come to Congress.

And

that's what he was trying to comply with.

And it seems to me that it only added fuel to the fire,

you know, because they, you know, everybody knows they try to play off the Nixon thing it's the cover-up that got you in trouble yeah

and you know if it's a legal process and this guy is is honorable I mean what are you gonna do about it

it just goes in to just make more smoke Chris I appreciate it good to talk to you

Thank you

Representative Chris Stewart, Republican from Utah.

I mean, legitimately, right out of the hearing.

Like, you'll see him up there.

He's going to walk back into the hearing room in a second.

We'll see him on C-SPAN walking back in.

He just finished questioning.

You're not going to get better, quicker insight from a real player in the story than that.

And we should mention, too, John Solomon, who was supposed to be on here if you were looking for that interview.

He had to reschedule till tomorrow,

had apparently said a meeting with a source

just come up.

So he's rescheduled till tomorrow.

He was the guy who is not by name, but his work is mentioned in the whistleblower report extensively.

Extensively.

And so he's going to come on and tell us what that is like to go through on tomorrow's program at this time.

And in one minute, I want to come back and I'm going to give you the timeline.

Stu will take you through the timeline of this whistleblower report because it's all out of order, so it's kind of hard to figure out.

But he's taken the time and put it all in order so you can understand it.

We'll get to that.

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All right.

We do know what's going on with the impeachment, and it is not the story you're getting from the press.

I urge you to go back and listen to the podcast today if you missed any of this show.

Stu

is going to take us through this.

If you can't do it total right now, let's kind of give a recap of where we were and then go through the timeline in about five minutes.

Yeah, you heard Chris Stewart go through a lot of this.

A couple of things that are important to know that you're hearing from the media that you need to know the truth on.

Number one is

at no point did Donald Trump say,

I would like you to do us a favor, please investigate Joe Biden.

And that's what all of the press was talking about yesterday.

Right.

That is the omission of like 540 words.

Yeah, depending on how they cut it, but it was between 5 and 550 words they cut out of that to make it seem like, do me a favor,

investigate Biden.

He's actually asking about the favor related to something completely different, which is about

the election and the meddling from Russia and crowd strike.

That's a longer story.

You've heard us tell it before, but the bottom line is they are intentionally editing out 500 words with with an ellipsis or just nothing.

We actually have some audio on this.

Maybe we'll play this after the break.

Of multiple news sources, CNN, Fox News, even.

They're not even saying the ellipses.

They're not even saying dot, dot, dot.

No, you'll just see it on the screen.

Just say one quote says, do me a favor.

Then they go to the next screen.

The next quote says, investigate Joe Biden or whatever the exact quote is.

That's incomprehensible as a mistake.

It only could possibly be done intentionally.

If you went to any college and you were were writing something

factual, and college was fair, not biased.

If you, well, let's say you were using this and you were doing it and this bias came in on the opposite end,

you would get a failing grade.

You might even get kicked out of class for doing something like this.

You've taken it so far out of context, you've skipped about 500 to 550 words to draw that conclusion.

It is, it's reprehensible what the press is doing.

Even Fox News is doing this.

All right, we're going to give you the whole timeline of what this really is all about.

And it's not about Joe Biden.

If you listen to the whistleblower stuff, it's not about Joe Biden.

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Think about the the average person in America.

What are they getting out of this story?

To them, the first thing that happened was Donald Trump inexplicably is talking to the Ukrainian president about trying to get dirt on Joe Biden, which to them, if you didn't have any of this information, you'd think to yourself, well, that is a bizarre action.

This guy's desperate.

He's trying to ruin his political rival's campaign.

He's just searching around for dirt.

And so to the average person, this seems like Trump has made this dramatic, irrational move.

To anyone in this audience who's been sitting here for the past six months to a year, hearing this story weekly, at some points daily, and anyone can go on YouTube and watch it for free.

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So when you're talking to people about this, don't get emotional.

Don't make it about Joe Biden because I don't think this is about Joe Biden.

And I want to talk to Stu about, I think we need to do a special next week.

And

I already have it in my head based on this,

I think we can tie this thing together and explain it in a way that no one else is explaining.

And I'll take it from both sides.

I'll say, look, this is what the Democrats believe is happening.

And here are the facts.

And you look at it that way.

Now, let me tell you what I think Donald Trump just did and what is happening from his point of view.

And you decide.

But I think I can make a strong case and I urge the president, don't play defense.

Don't play defense.

Offense, offense, offense.

You have them.

That's why they're panicking and doing this impeachment thing with no smoking gun because you have them.

And bringing attention to this story is beneficial, not only to the president and bad for the Democrats, but also for the country.

I mean, it's important important that we find out the facts on this.

I'll say, I saw an op-ed yesterday that made a great point in that one of the big problems with conservative media, generally speaking, is we're very reactive.

We let the NBC come out with this big story and then we say, well, here's the truth about it, or here's our spin on it, or here's what we think is going on, instead of leading this stuff.

You know, and they complimented you specifically on this particular story, how we were way out in front of this and have been for you know a very long time telling you the details of the story because we believed it would become a really important election issue

and here we are and what's frustrating about the about this as a as a process is the media is now presenting this major scandal about Joe Biden as a Trump problem exclusively Now, that is

to anyone who's been listening to this story for six months, it's incredibly frustrating.

You didn't cover any of this for six months, and now all of a sudden you're bringing it up as an important thing because you have a Trump transcript.

Look, the important thing is, is that most hosts, most shows will tell you

what happened yesterday.

My job is to make sense of what happened yesterday while showing you what's coming tomorrow.

And that's hard because most people don't want to hear the speculation of what's coming tomorrow.

But look at the track record.

It's pretty damn good.

And if you don't understand what's coming tomorrow, all you're going to be doing is playing defense.

All right, let's go back into the whistleblower and let's look at the timeline.

This is basically what the whistleblower is accusing the president of doing in his timeline.

And there was some confusion earlier, kind of on the show, as to some of these events and what order they came in.

And the reason for that is the actual whistleblower report itself is out of order.

It's all out of order.

It's presented

the facts of later date,

events that happened at later dates are first, and then they go back and kind of backtrack.

So there's a little bit of confusion.

So let me lay this out in a timeline structure.

This is what they say.

This is not necessarily, you know, the truth.

The direct truth.

This is just the accusation from the whistleblower.

Right.

So what they say is in late 2018, late last year, Giuliani first met with the former prosecutor from Ukraine, Shoikin.

This is the guy who was fired.

Fired by Biden, who, by the way, on camera said

very close to the exact same thing Trump is accused of.

He took,

he withheld money that Ukraine was expecting.

A billion dollars.

A billion dollars.

And this is what Joe Biden admitted.

that he would withhold this money to unless they fired this particular prosecutor, that is Shoikin.

Now, Giuliani in 2018 met with him.

In late January, Giuliani met with Lushenko.

Do we know anything at all about what Giuliani found out from Shoikin?

Because remember, the accusation is that Shoikin was going in and going to question Gazprom and the big bank, the biggest bank over there, which had $1.8 billion of our money, our taxpayer dollars, that just went offshore and just disappeared with the guy from Burisma, the gas company.

Right.

And so we don't know exactly what was said in there.

In fact, it's not even in the accusation what

happened.

But she's, or he is leading,

is building a case here.

Is building a case here to try to say, hey,

this is what I think happened.

So these events happen in late 2018, Giuliani meeting.

Late January of 2019, another Giuliani meeting.

Mid-February, Giuliani, another meeting, Lushenko.

Now, Lushenko is an ally of the president who lost to the talk show host guy who's in there now, Zelensky.

So they are allies.

What's the motivation for Lushenko talking to Giuliani?

You could make the argument, and I think this is the implied argument, that Lushenko realizes his ally is about to lose this election.

and is trying to align himself with American interests so that he can save his job when Zelensky loses, right?

So after these meetings happen with Giuliani,

the Hill starts publishing articles and videos featuring comments from Lushenko.

Lushenko says all sorts of things about the Democrats and all stuff that's bad for Democrats.

This is again the accusation, not what we necessarily believe, but this is the accusation.

The implication of this

allegation is basically Giuliani met with these people, Lushenko in particular, and those meetings resulted in Lushenko outwardly and publicly saying really bad things for Democrats that the media barely picked up, but they were said publicly.

Really?

Really bad.

Like they went through us to get to Russia to find out stuff on Trump to affect the 2016 election.

That kind of bad.

Bombshell type allegation.

Bombshell bad.

So this is in March 2019.

On March 31st, that was the first round of the Ukrainian elections.

In this,

the ally of Lushenko survives to get to a runoff, but is losing.

On April 21st is the Ukrainian runoff.

Zelensky blows out the other guy.

So now

you have Lushenko, who has been talked about as losing his job if Zelensky wins.

He had this background work done with the Americans.

I think, you know, at least the implication of the allegation is: all right, well, this guy is

if now I can get the Americans to help me keep my gig, essentially.

On April 25th, so he was a truth teller until he started talking to Trump.

Right.

Then he's all lies.

On April 25th, Trump comments on these stories from The Hill.

Now, The Hill, a lot of this stuff came from John Solomon.

He's our guest on tomorrow's program in this hour.

He was supposed to be on today, but a last-second cancellation.

Potentially, was it related to to the fact that he was mentioned essentially in the whistleblower report?

I don't know.

But he said he had a source meeting, so we'll find out about that tomorrow.

On May 9th of this year, the New York Times reported that Giuliani was going to Ukraine to meet with Ukrainians.

On May 11th, Lushenko met with the current president Zelensky, the talk show host guy.

In mid-May is when the whistleblower says they first started hearing rumors about all of this.

So they have no knowledge.

This person who is the source of this allegation had no knowledge about any of this stuff other than what was publicly reported until mid-May.

So this is after the election and everything.

Between May and early July, Trump

will,

the allegation is that Trump said he will only meet or call with the new Ukrainian president.

He'll only meet with him.

He'll only give him the call if he, quote, plays ball.

Now, there's no, the quote is

not an actual quote.

Again, this person doesn't even claim to have witnessed or seen any of these things themselves.

They're reporting second and third-hand information.

But that's the thing.

So the allegation is Trump is holding back this meeting, holding back this call because he wants him to play ball and get me dirt on Biden.

In June, Zelensky asked for a replacement of Lushenko.

So it didn't work for Lushenko if he tried to do this.

In mid-July, the whistleblower began learning of the policy of withholding funds to Ukraine.

This is a big part of this allegation.

If he had withheld funds for the dirt on Biden, essentially.

Then, in July 25th, was the call that we all got the transcript of yesterday.

And then in August, Lushenko was actually removed from that job.

So he's no longer in the prosecutor job, prosecutor general job.

So if you see this, though,

at what point did the

U.S.

ambassador that was fired, at what point did they get in and stop

Ukrainian investigators from coming over to the United States to explain and arrest people?

I don't have that date in this timeline.

I know it was referenced in here.

That is an important part.

The U.S.

ambassador was

who was an Obama appointee, was obstructing justice in Ukraine

and has been removed.

Allegedly.

Obstructing justice.

Yeah, allegedly obstructing justice, according to the Ukrainians.

And she was covering, allegedly, for something that the Democrats were doing or these oligarchs were doing.

And that was one of the complaints that came from Zelensky to Donald Trump.

And Donald Trump removed her.

And so we'll, we'll,

there's a lot more going on here.

And I want to take the time and really lay it out and show you what I think is really going on because I

have a

decent gut on some of these things, and

I think I know what is going on, and I want to explain it to you.

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I want to know what your thoughts are on this impeachment process,

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You know, are you disturbed by any of the stuff that is going on?

I will tell you that I started the day before I read the whistleblower stuff.

I started the day going, okay, well, I don't know where this is going to go, but I think he's in the clear here.

I think I can understand it.

I didn't understand at the beginning of the day why Nancy Pelosi would turn on a dime.

There's nothing here.

So what is going on?

Now I think I really do understand it.

And I think the president needs to go on

offense and forget defense.

It's going to be hard for him to do, but stop playing defense on this because they're making it all about him and Joe Joe Biden.

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It is not about Joe Biden.

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