The SJW Media: Banning Guns Through Banks and Credit Cards | Guests: Bill O’Reilly & Dave Rubin | 9/6/19

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A New York Times reporter is pushing HARD for banks to monitor and restrict gun sales, and the media is walking lockstep toward MORE government tracking. Bill O’Reilly has the ratings for CNN’s climate change town hall, and ironically, it was outperformed by the hurricane. Also on the cutting block are Biden’s health, global warming’s bias against people of color, Trump’s Sharpie skills, and the odd 911 call from Kevin Hart’s car crash. Dave Rubin calls in to discuss joining the BlazeTV family, his personal evolution, and the importance of God in society. And the Impossible Whopper is finally given a taste test by the meat connoisseurs themselves.
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May seem like we're headed one direction, but you may be surprised where we end up.

Guns and credit card companies in one minute.

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It was September 25th, 2017.

Steven Paddock checked into a room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas.

He had 10 range bags full of guns and ammunition, and six days later, he opened fire on the people on Route 91 at the Harvest Music Festival.

He killed 85 people.

He wounded 851 others in what is the deadliest mass shooting committed by one person in U.S.

history, and then he killed himself.

When police investigated, they found 23 rifles and one handgun, 14.223 caliber AR-15 type rifles, 8.308 AR-10 type rifles, 1.308 caliber bolt-action rifle, and 1.38 caliber revolver.

On the kitchen counter next to his hotel room key, there were four credit cards.

Now,

I want you to listen to Andrew Ross Sorkin.

He's certain that there is a correlation between mass shootings and the credit cards.

Listen.

After Parkland, the shooting in Parkland, and trying to look at the role that banks and credit cards play in these things, I really decided to take a deep dive into this.

The article is called Devastating Arsenals Bought with Plastic and Nary a Red Flag.

It is a New York Times investigation that looks at mass shootings, every single major mass shooting in America since Virginia Tech in 2007.

And it really reveals how credit cards have become such a crucial part of the planning of these massacres in a way that I have to say I did not even appreciate myself.

So, you know, he is becoming much more of an activist than a reporter.

He wrote the article, How Banks Unwittingly Finance Mass Shootings in the New York Times.

We have some problems with the article, and I'll get to those here in just a second, but let me look at his point first.

He starts by pointing out that there have been 13 shootings that killed 10 or more people in the last decade, and in at least eight of them, the killers finance their attacks using credit cards.

Virginia Tech in 2007, Binghamton in 2009, Fort Hood, 09, Aurora, 12, San Bernardino 2015, Orlando 16, Sutherland Springs, 17, Las Vegas, 17.

He points out that over the course of eight months before the Pulse nightclub

in Orlando, that shooting, the shooter opened six new credit card accounts.

Just 12 days before

the shooting, he spent $26,000 on a SIG Sauer

MCX 223 caliber rifle, a Glock 17, 9mm semi-automatic pistol, and several large magazines, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and a $7,500 ring for his wife that he bought on a jewelry store credit card.

Before then, he had spent only $1,500 a month on average.

Now the difference is so dramatic that he panicked.

According to Sorkin, just two days before the shooting, frantically he was searching Google for credit card unusual spending, credit card reports, all three bureaus, FBI, and why banks stop your purchases.

Now the shooter in Aurora, Colorado, the movie theater shooter, spent $11,000 on guns and ammunition, and that was all on a credit card.

The issue has revealed a split among the banks and credit card companies.

On one side, there are companies that support monitoring as a form of public safety.

Following the shooting in Parkland, Florida, Citigroup adopted a new code of conduct for gun dealers and manufacturers the bank does business with.

It requires retailers to impose age restrictions on gun sales.

Wouldn't have helped.

CEO Michael Corbett said the policy is intended to preserve the rights of responsible gun owners like myself while relying on best sales practices to keep firearms out of the wrong hands.

Now, the new policy does not restrict Citigroup customers from using the company's cards for gun purchases.

Bank of America took a similar approach when they stopped giving loans to manufacturers of certain kinds of semi-automatic rifles sold to civilians.

Overwhelmingly, though, the banks and credit card companies have refused to take part in any sort of monitoring.

This week, the New York Times is reporting that's because of conservative pressure.

Wells Fargo, the CEO there, said, I don't think it's a good idea for banks to decide what products and services Americans can buy.

It shouldn't be up to me, to us.

We don't decide that.

It should be up to the folks following the laws and the folks making the decision.

Wells Fargo CFO, John Shrewsbury, said the best way to make progress on these issues is through political and legislative process.

Visa said, we don't believe Visa should be in the position of setting restrictions on the sale of lawful goods or services.

Asking Visa or other payment networks to arbitrate what legal goods can be purchased sets a dangerous precedent.

Spokesperson from MasterCard echoed that sentiment.

Privacy, privacy of people's purchasing decisions belongs to them.

It's cardholder independence.

Jeremy Stein, an economics professor at Harvard

University, rightly points out: if the banks decide no longer to do business with gun manufacturers, they would need to look more closely at customers' information.

And by doing so, they'd be getting into the same issues Facebook and others have had problems with.

So, even if banks and credit card companies agreed to start monitoring purchases, gun sales are difficult to track because they appear on statements at sporting goods or retail shop purchases.

Big box retailers like

Walmart, they're not selling guns or ammunition anymore.

They've been,

they have on their receipts, their code just says variety.

They sell groceries, pet supplies,

and everything else.

Dick's Sporting Good imposed restrictions on their gun sales.

And a former FBI counterterrorism prosecutor and staff member of the FBI 9-11 Review Commission insists this is easy to fix.

They have the infrastructure already in place.

All they have to do to deal with suspicious activity is use that infrastructure, just be tweaking it to consider firearm-related information.

Information is the key word here.

Information.

Your information.

Now, there are measures in place.

For instance, banks have to report every time a single person makes a transaction over $10,000.

That transaction could be totally legal.

Banks have to report the transaction.

At over $5,000,

they have to report it if they suspect suspicious activity.

There are also laws that restrict gun purchases under the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Firearm dealers must report if someone buys two or more handguns in the span of five business days.

There's also a lot of official blowback from the idea that banks will monitor all of our purchases now, effectively compiling a list of gun owners.

Last year, John Kennedy, a Republican senator from Louisiana, introduced the new

No Red or Blue Banks Act.

The bill would prohibit the federal government from giving contracts to banks that discriminate against lawful business based solely on

social policy considerations.

Even the ACLU has come out against the monitoring of the banks.

Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst for ACLU.

The implication of

expecting the government to detect and prevent every mass shooting is believing government should play an enormously intrusive role in the American life.

Which brings us back

to Andrew Ross Sorkin's New York Times article.

He doesn't seem convinced by any of this.

In fact, this week in the New York Times, he is taking credit for Walmart,

and he said, We have just begun this fight.

He prefers government stepping in and forcing these companies to start monitoring their customers.

You,

or at least the credit card companies,

made that choice of their own volition.

So, government doesn't have to.

We just really think that they should.

Here he is in an interview on PBS.

So, right now,

legally, you you decide you're going to send $10,000 anywhere.

That gets reported to the government.

Instantly.

Instantly.

Already does.

So we could instantly have reported this person just stockpiled $40,000 worth of weapons and grains.

Absolutely.

Okay.

He makes a valid point,

or at least starts to, but it's what he says next.

He takes it into a strange direction here.

And by the way, the credit card industry has on its own volition decided that there's certain things they don't want to finance.

So if you want to buy Bitcoin, you can't.

Marijuana in many states is legal, you can't.

MasterCard, interestingly, recently went to a website that had some hate speech on it and said, we're no longer going to allow you to use credit card transactions using MasterCard because of this hate speech.

So there are companies that are taking positions, if you will, on some of these things.

And the question is how that can work in relation to guns.

So he starts by saying it's bad that credit card companies infringe on people's rights in other situations.

You know, people purchase marijuana or punish websites for hate speech.

It's bad.

That should be the end of his point, full stop, but it's not.

He goes on then by saying, why can't we do that in relation to guns?

His article quotes a number of experts who are more or less just repeating a version of the same thing.

Credit card companies should bear responsibility for mass shootings.

More importantly, he just assumes that the connection does exist.

But is there a connection between credit card companies and mass shootings?

Or is it spurious?

We're going to go there

in one minute.

This is such an important thing because people are just...

I mean, we are starting to look at some spooky, spooky things.

of just total monitoring.

We are coming up with a social score, a social credit score, like China.

So we're doing it and we're volunteering for it.

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The one thing that makes the debate on guns really, really hard is the media.

The media pushes a false and many times totally inaccurate view of guns.

And they say it over and over and over again, so many people who don't know anything about guns just assumes that all of that is true and they start to believe it.

This causes a trend called the spiral of silence.

The idea that people holding views contrary to those dominant in the media are moved to keep those views to themselves for fear of rejection.

They're unaware that there are plenty of like-minded people around them who also feel alienated by the predominant liberal voice of the media.

The news media is extraordinarily powerful, especially when everyone is walking in lockstep like they are on guns.

The voice of the media is everywhere.

It can select and maintain narratives at will.

It can impose values, often the values of those who are writing the stories.

Now, this imposition of silence amounts to a kind of authoritarianism that violates free speech and all of the principles of America.

We can't run behind the Second Amendment or the First Amendment now because we're talking about private companies making these decisions.

So nobody's silencing your speech.

It's people, just like you, silencing speech.

New York Times article, as you might expect, the article subtly makes clear that

he is on the side, and so is the New York Times, of gun restrictions.

Here's Sorkin in

his PBS interview again.

He reveals that this is not a news story.

This is a social justice story for him.

Right after

I started writing about this after Parkland, the good news was a number of banks actually did take a step back.

A Bank of America Citigroup said, you know what, we're no longer going to finance gun manufacturers.

So the next question is, do you want to finance effectively the shooters?

Okay, so this is the guy who called Walmart or wrote a letter to the CEO of Walmart after the shooting and said, you have an ability to make a statement like no one else can.

So

he is a social justice warrior.

He wrote in his article, after the shooting last February at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, 17 students, staff members were killed.

This column suggested that financial firms had an opportunity to help reduce violence by pushing for more responsible practices by the gun industry.

As a result, some banks ended their relationship with

gun makers, and some investors pushed for manufacturers for more transparency.

The bill itself,

as a report, yet he injects his own subtle narrative there.

He's celebrating the fact that an article by the New York Times resulted in policy change.

So it's an op-ed.

It's not an article.

It's activism.

It's not journalism.

Why can't we get people to come clean and just admit these things?

Clearly, he thinks guns are evil and banks need to stop people from buying them, or in his words, elected officials could force the financial system to act

that

could

that could, they could, passive aggressive.

Most telling of all, the perspectives not included, where are the opinions from gun rights activists and pro-Second Amendment advocates?

Where Where is a conservative?

Where's even a conservative light?

Where's anyone in this story that isn't just blatantly leftist?

There are tons of quotes like this.

We need to step back

and think about what tools we use to combat terrorism and money laundering and think about the financial rules associated with the Patriot Act.

In a very real sense, I think these mass shootings are terrorism.

Well, so do I.

While some executives expressed grief and were open to discussing possible solutions, virtually none were willing to speak about them on record for fear of upsetting gun rights activists and politicians invoking the Second Amendment.

Invoking the Second Amendment.

Imagine that.

If we said this about voting rights.

Oh, yeah, well,

they're just talking about the Constitution.

Translation, everybody is scared of these gun-loving conservatives who keep supporting terrorism with their fully semi-automatic weapons and their death machines.

Think of the children.

Well, we are think of the children.

I want to leave you with one more thought

about how dangerous this kind of thinking is, and it is becoming the mainline thinking now when we come back.

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So, we've been watching

this

reporter for the New York Times for a while, and he is taking credit this week for Walmart

finally

deciding that they are going to get out of the gun business.

And he wrote to them beforehand,

basically, I think he did an open letter as well, pressuring, you have the chance, you know, leadership of Walmart.

And

he was very upset that the conservatives that are pushing the Second Amendment in Congress are telling

these

banks and credit card companies to not

look at

your information, not to make a list of all gun buyers,

not to stop doing business or giving loans or financial services to gun manufacturers.

And look at what's going to happen.

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several people on the staff,

when I did this, one in particular, and because I only know this because he said it to me a couple of years later, made fun of me going, this is ridiculous.

This is not going to turn into what Glenn is saying.

It's so far away.

And what I was saying at the time was, this is the future.

You're going to be able to 3D print anything.

Now, if you'll see in this printer, you'll see a face.

I don't even remember who that was that we printed, but it's a face of somebody, and it's plastic.

And it's pretty incredible.

But it's still plastic.

This

is

number, let me see, 12, I think it is.

Number 15.

This was the 15th fully 3D printed gun.

And I just want you to listen to the sound of it.

Does that not sound like a regular gun?

I give this gun once in a while to

people who are advocates and people who are also that are saying, oh,

we got to get guns off the street.

I hand them this gun.

Say, can you tell me anything about this gun?

People who actually know guns

can't tell me anything.

No, is it what's special about it?

What's so different about it?

It's 3D printed.

You are going to create a black market.

You're telling me this is a 3D printed gun.

You're telling me that you can't 3D print magazines?

Of course you can.

You could handmake those, let alone 3D print.

And any gun that you want, you can now 3D print.

And there's a report, I believe it was the Wall Street Journal, that said they now believe the gun that was purchased for the most recent shooting was not as initially reported, but instead was a gun illegally built by someone.

Yeah, it was not a private.

It was not a normal private sale or a gun show type of thing.

It was a person who built the gun illegally and then sold it to this guy with the mental issues.

Just so you know,

you can fairly easily, I don't mean like you could do it today, but you could take the time and learn how to make weapons.

You can make guns.

People just don't do it because it's illegal.

Yeah, just like that.

Like you can cook steak, but you can also go to a restaurant and they'll make it for you.

It's a lot easier.

Right.

It usually tastes better.

Right.

And it doesn't blow up in your hands.

Right.

You know, it does take skill to be able to make a gun.

But you can make guns, and people will if there's a black market.

But there's a limited skill that goes into 3D printing a gun.

Like, now, right now, it is more difficult and it would not be easy.

A magazine, however,

that would not be difficult for anyone who knows how to use a 3D printer to do.

And the idea that you're going to be able to ban a certain size of magazine when anyone can print them at their home.

I mean, I'm on Amazon right now.

There are dozens of 3D printers under $1,000.

Metal?

Some of them are metal.

Some of them are plastic, more this old school style here.

But again, like for a magazine, you can make it out of plastic.

Yes, I mean, you could.

All you need is a spring.

Yeah, it's a spring.

It's just something that's feeding bullets into a gun,

into a chamber.

It's not like a high-tech device.

It's not meant to be, right?

So you could do it, and obviously you could build it pretty easily with metal parts.

The idea that you're going to be able to ban them is completely ridiculous.

It's completely ridiculous.

And everyone knows it wouldn't work.

The idea that some guy who wants to go murder 20 people is going to stop because he couldn't quite come up with a piece of metal.

Here's a guy who is mentally disturbed.

mentally disturbed, and he gets turned down

legally.

He can't do anything.

So what does he do?

This mentally disturbed guy finds another guy who's willing to go to federal prison for making a gun and selling it on the black market.

Right.

I mean, think of that.

That guy was aided and betted by somebody who is willing to go to federal prison.

You need a federal license to be able to make guns.

He didn't have one.

You need a federal license to sell a gun that you're making.

He didn't have one.

This guy is going to go to federal prison for this.

He was willing to risk that.

So for what?

To sell it to some mentally disturbed individual?

That's not somebody who's going to be impressed with new laws.

We must enforce the laws that we already have.

And look, the laws that we already have are not sufficient to stop people from murdering each other.

No.

There's no

law against murder, right?

I mean, think about, they always say this stat, which is completely ridiculous, and we've gone over it many times, but it's like, well, there's been 230 mass shootings this year.

And they, of course, to get to that number, what they don't tell you is they're highlighting all sorts of gang violence in the inner cities.

Well, does anyone think people with gang violence in the inner cities are going out and buying these guns legally?

I mean,

watch The Wire.

Do you think these people are going into gun shows to get these guns?

They're not.

They're all illegally purchased.

These are guns.

Somehow, we also ban drugs in this country.

You know,

you can't have heroin in this country either.

Somehow, people are acquiring it.

Somehow, people are manufacturing it.

Somehow, people are going through the chemical process of creating crystal meth and selling it all over the place to people who don't even have a lot of money.

And you think you're going to be able to step in here and ban pieces of plastic and metal with springs?

I hate to go.

It's just so dumb.

I hate to go all, you know, Mary Ann Williamson on you,

but there's a hole in us.

There is a problem.

Don't say you have thoughts and prayers for it.

I hope you're not going to say that.

I do have thoughts and prayers for it.

You're not going to think about it.

I mean, prayer is one thing.

You're a crazy sky god and your boomsticks.

But I mean, we're talking about thoughts.

I don't want you thinking about this.

Stu, I have the power of love.

Oh, okay.

And the power of love will win.

I mean, when Marion Williamson's your most sane candidate, that is a problem for your party.

Yeah, on this particular issue, I mean, I think she, you know, thinks we should scoop them all up, too.

But on this issue, she keeps saying no one is talking about the whole in our society.

And that's true.

Look, the guns are not a new thing.

These weapons,

these weapons of war,

they were used as hunting rifles in the 1950s.

Then the government said, hey, we would like the license to be able to make them for Vietnam as well.

And they were, but we kept selling them here.

They've been around since the 1950s.

What's changed?

I know.

It's funny.

These guns have been around, right?

And

something's changed.

Why do we think something's changed?

What's the idea?

Why does Betto go on the TV and say, well, we've tried thoughts and prayers and nothing's happened?

Why does he say that?

What is he getting at?

Well, I mean,

the murder rate in this country has dropped by half.

So if you're putting all

of the effects of the gun violence problem on thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers are working really well.

Right?

So what are we talking about?

We're talking about only a specific type of violence, a specific type of shooting.

The mass I want attention shooting.

That's the only thing.

We're not talking about an increase in gun violence here.

We're not talking about that.

We're talking about a decrease in gun violence, a massive decrease in gun violence.

What we're only talking about are specific types of shootings, right?

Specific...

attention grabbing shootings by mentally disturbed individuals almost exclusively.

And I don't know, maybe the entire focus on this is a big chunk of the problem.

We see these things come and go with crimes where there's like a,

I call them trend crimes.

They're crimes, the type of crime that trends among psychopaths, right?

And so you go back and you can see them through recent history where there was political assassinations was a thing for a while.

They happen less often now.

They just were a thing.

Serial killers were a thing for a while.

There's tons of them.

The media was obsessed with them.

There's tons of copycats.

Now we're in an era of mass public shootings, right?

Where the media constantly feeds this cycle.

And we have an entire group of people who consider themselves Columbiners because they all worship at the altar of the two horrible people that killed people at Columbine.

And this has become an ideology.

Just like serial killing was kind of an ideology and political assassination was kind of an ideology.

And so we are now there.

The thing that seems to have changed is how the media focuses on these people and how we turn them into heroes.

And in a way,

heroes, but also heroes for a certain sect.

And I will say, like, the sect that they are heroic to are people who go around and spend their entire lives complaining that they can't be understood and no one will listen to me.

Well, when they go and they do these shootings, guess what happens?

Everyone listens to them and they talk about

their complaints about the world incessantly, and everyone tries to understand them.

They get exactly what they want.

This is what The Joker is all about.

The new movie, The Joker.

The new movie is, he doesn't fall into a vat of acid.

This is a guy who is rejected and isolated and then made fun of by society.

And it's really a social,

it's a magnifying glass on our society society and

what's happening.

And on top of that, we look at Joker and he's an anti-hero in many ways.

You know,

he's the poster that you would have up in your room as a kid,

where you don't necessarily have Batman.

It wouldn't be unusual for a kid to have a poster of Joker or a picture of Batman.

When I was growing up, you wouldn't have had a picture of the Joker.

You wouldn't have been following the Joker because Batman was the hero.

Now we're a now we're a society that celebrates both

the villain and sometimes more so the villain.

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Well,

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Your name is Hitler, dude.

Yeah.

And you're a direct descendant.

Oh, and by the way, in his house, he has a picture of Angela Merkel and Adolf Hitler on his wall.

But he's like, that's only because he's a relative.

I don't care if he's a relative or not, man.

He's a mass murderer.

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Mr.

Bill O'Reilly.

Welcome to the program, sir.

Do I have to do the rumba here?

Yeah, you do.

What music is that?

That's Bill O'Reilly.

He's here.

It's going to be zany crazy and there will be some dancing uh

i'm i'm ready to do the macarena whenever you want all right okay uh bill let's start with the uh

the never-ending town hall meeting on cnn

still going on still

um yeah they've now got uh animated cartoon characters weighing in on what they're going to do yes um it's a telethon over the weekend

and uh i i don't think jerry lewis is going to appear but he may so you you're a guy who's the deal.

You're a guy who looks at the ratings.

I'm dying to know what the ratings for that thing were were.

This is the irony of it.

They were bad, and they were outrated by the hurricane.

And there's nothing really.

He's blaming the global warming,

blaming the hurricane on the global warming, with, of course, no data or facts to back that up.

That's crazy.

And then people are going, you know what?

I think I'll just watch the real hurricane, not you.

That's what happened.

CNN did about a little bit more than a million.

It's a little bit better than they usually do because, you know, they usually don't do anybody.

Okay, so let's do the headlines.

First of all, I do believe there is warming on the planet

because I can read the thermometers and the temperatures that come in from around the world.

I also went up to Glacier Bay in Alaska, and I talked to the Marines biologist up there.

He said they've lost half the glacier up there.

I also used to play ice hockey on Long Island for two months outside during the winter on a pond that was frozen.

Last winter, not one day could you do that.

So the temperature is changing.

Now you go into, well, can human beings do anything about it?

Well, certainly we can all be cleaner.

I mean, it breaks my heart because, as you know, I'm a big ocean guy, that there's so much gunk in the ocean and plastics.

I can't figure out why laser technology hasn't been able to just disintegrate these plastic stuff after we use it.

I don't know why that hasn't happened.

But the plastic stuff is winding up in the oceans.

It's awful.

So, I'm not some guy who goes, there's no global warming.

This is God doing this.

I'm not.

All right, I do believe that the planet has been impacted by bad things from human beings.

Okay,

now we have a bunch of totalitarian Stalinists, and that's exactly who they are, that are saying to the American people, unless you do what we tell you to do in every aspect of your life, the planet and the world are going to end in 10 years, 15 years, maybe 20.

So you've got to do what we tell you to do.

And then the litany of stuff starts.

And you, Beck, rightly were pithy and said, they want to take all your freedoms away: freedom of choice, freedom of how you live your life, and the central government in Washington, D.C., is going to tell you exactly what you eat, where you go, how you get there, and how the jobs are doled out, all under the guise of saving you from global warming.

There it is.

So,

do the American people connect with this, Bill?

I don't know whether people pay attention enough to see

Elizabeth Warren a very dangerous woman and Bernie Sanders are basically saying.

They're saying we're going to take as much money as we can from every American worker and give it to other people because global warming impacts the minority communities the most.

That's the latest.

You saw that, right?

Yes, yes, yes.

Okay.

So this guy who wrote this book, this professor at American University, says, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Global warming impacts people of color because more people of color live in the southern hemisphere, and that's where global warming is worse.

So if you don't fight it, you're a racist.

That's the latest.

Well, what?

The book is out.

Some people actually bought it.

But hold on.

So every time you put gas in your car, get on an airplane, you're a racist.

You're a racist because that's exacerbating global warming.

So this is how insane it's gotten.

Now, your question is, do most Americans know it's insane?

I would say no, because the media, the national media, particularly on television, all right, doesn't point any of this out.

You can only hear it on the O'Reilly update, on billorilly.com, on the Blaze, on the Glenbeck radio show.

That's where you're going to hear it.

Not going to see it in the New York Times or hear it on NBC News.

So, they suppress, I love that word, suppress the real thing that's going on with the global warming.

It is a power play.

That's what it is.

So, you know, you were saying that if you gas up your car, it's racist.

Bernie Sanders was talking about aborting poor children from third world countries, most likely not white.

I didn't read it that way.

What?

I have to say, I didn't read it that Bernie Sanders wants to kill minority children.

What is he saying?

This is how I read it.

And remember, Bernie Sanders is 112 years old.

So a lot of times it doesn't come out very clear.

It's kind of like Biden.

So

what I heard him say, what I think he said was, if you can ram birth control down more women's throats, it's better for the

yeah, that's

very much what

Margaret Sanger said, too.

Yes, and we know the eugenics of Margaret Sanger.

But here's another thing for you global warming fans out there.

And I understand

a new sports franchise in San Francisco is going to be called the Climate Changers.

Okay, so it's going to be great out there.

Here's something else.

So if Sanders or Warren are elected president, which they won't be, but if they were, all right, then we would have all these draconian changes to our economy and lifestyles in the pursuit of saving us from destruction.

Do you think that Russia is going to not use fossil fuels when its entire economy is based on oil?

How about China with 1.5 billion people,

many of whom

are living from day to day, are they going to knock out all the fossil fuels over in China?

How about India?

You know, are they going to do that?

I don't think so.

Japan.

Japan still is massacring whales.

We can't even get them to stop killing the whales over there.

All right.

They're going to stop with the fossil fuels over there?

I don't think so.

Okay.

So we, the United States and Sweden, all right, we're going to we're going to go back and live in the 19th century.

All right, we're going to have campfires.

Maybe we can't even have them.

Maybe campfires are not going to be well.

All right.

And then everybody else is going to go, oh, look at these Americans.

They destroyed their own economy.

They blew up their own lifestyle.

All right.

They're all on horseback again.

I mean, this is

so absurd.

This is like a Saturday Night Live skit when that show used to be funny, which was like 30 years ago.

All right.

Did I cover everything?

I think you covered everything.

I want to take you now to the gun debate, but let me break for one minute so we have lots of time on the other side to talk about what's happening with the gun debate and your take on Walmart and this article that we have not heard Trump speak about, but we have had from the administration, a leak in the administration, on something that they are looking at and considering on how to make sure the guns don't get in the hands of bad guys.

We'll come back with Bill O'Reilly, whose new book comes out in just a few days.

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Read it cover to cover.

Well, I read the covers.

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We break for 10 seconds, station ID.

So, this week, San Francisco has designated the NRA as a terrorist organization.

You want to talk about dividing the country.

That's calling half of the country

terrorists or financing a terrorist organization.

That seems a little divisive.

But also, we have Walmart, who has decided that they are going to take a stand against guns and ammunition, something they have a right to do.

But Bill, how do you feel about it?

The momentum in America, and Republicans need to understand this,

is for more stringent regulation of heavy weapons.

All right?

So I don't know what Walmart does or doesn't do, and I don't really particularly care.

You pointed out they have a right to do whatever they want, and if you don't want to shop at Walmart anymore, don't.

But the bigger issue for the country is that President Trump knows he's got to do something to appear to be concerned about these mass murders.

Now I'm not saying he's not concerned, but if the Republicans and Mitch McConnell in the Senate don't do anything,

they're going to lose the Senate and the House next time around because the Democrats are going to run wild with this issue.

So the Republicans have to back some kind of more

focused, I think that's the best word,

more focused legislation on keeping these high-powered guns out of the hands of nuts.

Is it going to work?

No.

Right.

I think everybody understands that mass murder will always be with us.

Right, and hang on just a minute.

Most criminals can get guns illegally.

I think everybody got that.

AR,

these weapons of war, they're called weapons of war because America first really started noticing them during Vietnam, but they were invented as a modern sporting rifle.

That's what they're called, modern sporting rifles.

They've been around since the 1950s.

We had them through the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, and today.

There's no difference.

We have had these.

There's not a problem with the gun.

There's a problem with humanity.

Something is missing in the middle.

You remember, there was a federal assault weapons ban.

That did nothing.

That did nothing.

But it was there, and it had passed.

I think that the Republican Party, if it wants to fend off this amazingly destructive wave of far-left ideology has to compromise in the gun area.

In what way?

What do we do?

What do we do without violating?

That gives individual Americans a little bit more power to go and say, you know, Lenny over there is shooting

Dachshunds and the money.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

So that's fine, except the president wants wants to have you guilty until proven innocent.

You cannot take a gun away from somebody unless...

I mean, we already have the red flag.

If you think somebody is sick,

you go to a hospital and say, you got to commit this person.

Beck.

Yes.

If somebody on the streets of New York...

All right, is running around naked, screaming obscenities, the authorities show up and take that person to Bellevue,

where they are placed under observation for a period of time.

If the doctors examining the person then feel the person is a threat, they go to a judge,

and the judge writes an order detaining the person.

Okay,

so you're making my point.

Why do you need a red flag law?

You have that.

You can do that.

You have it because this is private behavior.

The red flag law would be

spotlighting, not public behavior.

So, if I have, imagine somebody who's had an ugly divorce, okay?

Say I had an ugly divorce.

Divorce, there's the potential for abuse.

I mean, everybody's a bad person.

Huge potential, huge potential.

But if you're a mother and you have a 20-year-old big strapping guy in the basement with 15 ARs,

and this kid, this 20-year-old, and the mother knows,

is crazy, then the mother now has a way to alert the authorities without the kid coming up and beating the hell out of the mother.

You can do it under the cloak of anonymity, and the authorities are compelled then to come to the house and look at the kid or pick him up someplace else.

So I'm just saying to you, I understand the downside of all of these laws, but I know the political climate in the country.

And Americans want something to be done, even if that something does not work.

I think you know what?

I think

you're I think it's crazy, but completely right.

I do.

People say this all the time.

It's like, well, you know, you guys only care about the NRA and you only care about the politics of this.

The politics of the gun issue suck for Republicans, I think.

I mean, the easiest thing in the world is to give up, all give ground on all this stuff.

You feel terrible defending it.

You're in the middle of a tragedy trying to come up with these

factual points when no one wants to think about facts.

They want to think about emotion.

It's that moment.

But I mean, that is why.

It's an emotional issue, and the Republican Party and traditional Americans and gun owners have to look at the greater good here.

But I'm not giving up my constitutional rights because of emotion, Bill.

I feel like that's the problem.

But you don't have a constitutional right to own a certain weapon.

You have a right to own a certain weapon.

It shall not be infringed.

It's pretty clear.

Shall not be infringed.

Government

under the public safety banner has the right to say you can't have a bazooka.

We all know that.

So it's just, I'm not,

by the way, I wouldn't ban ARs.

I'm not for that.

What I am for is if you want to buy a heavy weapon or a weapon of war, as Beck puts it,

then you have to go through a more stringent

process so that

you're trained, the people are confident that you're not a loon, the check shows that you don't have four felonies on your sheet.

You know, that kind of a thing.

And I think it's reasonable.

We already have that.

The only thing we don't have

to do is federal level.

It's not a female level.

It's not a database.

The FBI doesn't have a database of people who own weapons of war.

I don't want them to have one.

I know you don't.

Right.

And I don't want them.

I also don't want them in my psychiatrist's office.

If I take Prozac, am I now going to, at some point, be deemed unsafe?

No, your medical records

would not be subject to scrutiny when you buy a firearm.

Well, then.

Then how are you suggesting that we know that this person is unstable or not?

Because the red flag law would then put the person in some kind of observational capacity where there would be people that were talking to the person.

It's not going to work.

It's not a foolproof thing.

I'm just telling you that if the Republicans continue to say nothing, we're not going to do anything.

All right, they're going to lose the Senate.

They lose the Senate and they lose the House and Trump loses the election.

You know, I'm going to be looking at Swiss properties because these people are relentless.

Talk about losing your freedom.

Can you imagine if Elizabeth Warren is elected president?

My God,

we're not going to have any freedom at all.

That's what socialism is.

Because you've got to look at the big picture here.

And the big picture is frightening.

And that's why Trump is meeting with Manchin, the senator from West Virginia.

Trump wants to have some kind of something

so he doesn't get his butt kicked.

Okay, so we're going to talk about one of those somethings coming up here in just a second as we continue with Bill O'Reilly.

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Welcome, Bill, from bill.com, billo'reilly.com.

So, Bill, let's go here.

It was released earlier this week that

President Trump, his administration, has prepared a proposal to get Apple, Google,

and Amazon Echo to work together to monitor people so they could have the red flag law really coming from the tech industry.

He has

dopey.

Well, he hasn't commented on it yet.

Because he's too busy with the Sharpie and the big thing he's got.

Come on,

I can't take the Sharpies, man.

I can't take the Sharpie thing.

What, what, what, what, what is that all about?

Two things.

Number one, would you do me a favor?

And when you say you read and liked the United States of Trump, which will be out September 24th, could you not then say other stuff after that?

That's all I'm asking.

That's all you're asking.

I know you like the book.

I know you read the book.

I know, but it really hurts me to say good things to you.

They want to know that, but then after you go into this big thing about the cover, and I don't know.

Because you're on the phone.

When you're on the phone, the minute you get off the phone, I say all those nice things, but you're on the phone.

I don't want you hearing those nice things.

Goes right to your head.

The thing is, I explain in the book

why Trump can't just walk away from the Sharpie thing.

And this is a deficit for the President.

It's going to hurt him, has hurt him, and he just isn't capable of doing it.

Remind me.

Remind me what you say in the book.

Okay.

He cannot accept any criticism.

Period.

We all know people like that.

You cannot say, gee, it wasn't a good move for you to drive your car on the lawn.

Oh, what do you mean?

It wasn't my fault.

You know, that kind of thing.

All right.

You can't look.

All Trump said, if you go back, was, hey, the storm might hit Alabama.

Okay, it might hit Alabama.

And at that point, nobody knew.

All right.

And then this is a big thing every day: the Sharpie, the map, the black thing, CNN throwing up on the air.

Oh, God, he doesn't care about the hurricane victims.

And I'm sitting there going, is this true?

Are we really living in this country?

All Trump had to do was say nothing, and that story would have gone away in 10 minutes.

But he's incapable.

If you criticize him, he can't not respond.

And when he responds, it becomes...

That's going to hurt him.

That's going to hurt him badly.

It's already hurt him.

Yes.

It's already hurt him.

And, you know, look, I'm not a psychiatrist.

I don't do that stuff in the book.

I just say, here's who Donald Trump is.

Here is what he does well.

And here is what he doesn't do so well.

And then you can read it and say, I agree or I disagree, but you're getting the truth from a guy who's known the man for 30 years.

Yeah.

All right.

So, Bill, let me go to Joe Biden and the

10-minute Ebola virus that he had going on during the debate.

It's not unusual for people to have eye bleeds, especially if you have high blood pressure, you're taking blood thinners, or you're under a lot of stress.

So it happens to people.

But he's already had two aneurysms and nobody, I mean, this is making Hillary Clinton look like the picture of health.

Look, I mean, Joe Biden's going to have to release his medical

forms and

he's going to have a physical and he's going to have to release it.

So I'm not so worried about that.

What is very intriguing about the vice president is that despite all of the gaffes and all of the befuddlement, all right, he's still leading by a tremendous amount over the socialists.

There's only three people,

and the debate next Thursday is probably the most important debate for Biden, all right, because if he can get through that next Thursday, he's got it locked unless he falls apart, unless he's got

the, as you put it, the Ebola virus.

You know, if he's got something like that, then he's going to be out.

But if he can get through next Thursday without getting hammered and not looking like a dunderhead, he's going to win the nomination because only Sanders and Warren are

polling at all.

The rest of them have disappeared.

Americans have said, you know, we really don't like these people or we don't want them.

They're gone and they're not going to rise up.

They're not.

Now, Michelle Obama, absolutely, I'm watching that real closely, real closely.

But Michelle doesn't want to go out there and go to diners in Iowa.

He doesn't want to do that.

So he's going to sit back and, you know, if May rolls around and there's no clear winner and Biden is out in front but is, you know, obviously incapacitated in some way, don't be surprised if you see her.

Do you think this is the same thing?

Anyway, for now, Biden's got to get through next Thursday.

And if he does, then there's nobody going to touch him because you can't have 13 debates with these people.

They say the same thing every single time.

I'm not looking.

You know, I haven't been paying attention to Michelle Obama, although I do believe that is a possibility.

But

the Oprah Winfrey announcement this week that she's considering a new wellness.

My Oprah's got too many skeletons.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

With any factual basis?

no, I'm not saying that.

She would be, this would be a great platform, Oprah, out,

also talking about, you know, Michelle Obama.

Oh, yeah.

Listen,

that's a very astute observation there, Beck.

If you start to see Oprah Winfrey

start to mention Michelle Obama in a political context,

that is that red flag right there.

Now, Oprah's going on the wellness tour

in conjunction with Weight Watchers.

I'm for that.

I'm not a chubby guy, so I don't really have to do that, but I like wellness.

I know Stu likes wellness.

I mean, we are wellness and welcoming.

That's what we are.

So, Bill, let me take you to New York City for a second.

New York City,

where I am back there.

I know that takes me.

I'm here.

I know.

That's why I'm

taking the rest of the audience to where you are.

They have been trying to get, I mean, Bloomberg tried everything he could to get the streets shut down.

He wants, you know, a walking street like, you know, like, like Paris.

He wants to get rid of a lot of the cars.

So they put all these bikes in.

Now they're saying that you have to have a license to use a bike.

Because the bike people are running down the pedestrians in the street.

It's kind of like the charging of the bulls over in Pampalona, Spain.

That's what it's like.

They're gonna bike out of the way.

So it's crazy that

the bike guys try to get you.

This is going to destroy the bike thing that they were banking on.

You have to get a license.

Nobody's going to.

Look, according to Mayor de Blasio, it's worth a few deaths.

Ah, yeah, we lost 30 or 40 people, but oh, we don't have

this city, New York City, it's

outside of San Francisco, which is Caracas, Venezuela.

All right.

New York City in the last five years has deteriorated to the point where nobody wants to go there who lives within a 30-mile radius.

You don't want to go there.

Because if you go by train and you get off at Penn Station, somebody's going to take a whiz on your shoe.

All right.

I mean, that's what's going on.

You were living there.

Officer, somebody going to the bathroom here in Penn Station.

Oh, we can't do anything about it.

And then you go up and you walk up to the street and there's five guys, Kamikazzi guys on bikes trying to kill you.

I mean, this is what New York states.

You lived there, did you not, before

I lived there under Giuliani.

Giuliani came in and was basically a fascist.

All right.

He just told 40,000 NYPD, arrest everybody.

Find a way.

And they did.

And then all of a sudden, crime cratered.

Yeah.

Because if you jumped a turnstile, if you hit somebody with your elbow in the subway, whatever it may be, you were in the precinct.

You're breaking up so badly, Bill.

And I think we lost you.

No, I'm here.

Okay, you're there.

Okay.

I'm sorry about that.

De Blasio does that when I get on the phone.

I know he does.

I know he does.

All right.

Bill, thank you so much for being a part of the program today.

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Our thoughts and prayers go out to Kevin Hart, who was in a really bad car accident.

He's got a, you know, he has a souped up barracuda, like 1970 or 68 Barracuda.

And that thing went off the road, I think flipped, took the roof right off, broke the glass.

The driver

is in the hospital for back problems.

The driver's wife is okay, and Kevin Hart walked away from the scene.

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it was weird.

Here's the 911 audio of the eyewitness.

Let me just hear this here first.

Sounds like the passenger is stuck in the car.

The driver is out of the car, but he looks a little hurt.

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there were only the two people in while this guy is describing it because Kevin Hart lived down the street and he walked home.

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Now,

this is the 911 call from Kevin Hart's wife after he is home for a while.

And listen to how calm she is and what she's saying.

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Listen to this.

He was in a car accident earlier tonight or what happened?

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I don't know what happened.

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Did he get treatment originally from when he was injured?

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he can't move.

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Holy cow.

Now, why?

Why did he walk away?

And, you know, there's lots of reasons for this.

And, you know, some not good and

some perfectly reasonable, I think.

You know, he's maybe in shock at first, and he thinks he's okay, and he walks home, but he isn't moving.

He's not responding, and there's something sticking out of his spine.

Wow.

Pretty relaxed handling of a moment like that.

Yeah, really.

Really relaxed.

Yeah, it's a very strange, very strange story.

Is he going to be okay?

Let me know what the outcome is.

Yeah, I guess he's going to be okay.

Big back problems, right?

Yeah.

But he's going to live and he's going to work again.

And I'm glad for all of that.

I like him.

I think he seems like a nice, normal guy.

You know, he's a guy who kind of came up with a tough upbringing and busted his butt.

I think he's from Philadelphia, isn't he?

I think he is.

Yeah, I think you're right.

And, you know, coming out of Philadelphia in some of those sections is not easy.

And he's risen and he's, from all accounts, a really nice guy.

Except for his four tweets, his jokes.

Yeah, those four tweets.

Horrible person.

Can you believe that people were coming after him this week?

He's in the hospital.

And they're coming after him again.

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Did you see the Drew Brees thing?

I know you're a huge, you know, exactly who Drew Brees is, obviously.

Sure, a baseball player.

Yeah.

He's probably played baseball at some point in his life.

New Orleans Saints quarterback, of course, did a spot for, was it Focus on the Family?

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They're an anti-gay organization.

Why is Drew Brees promoting an anti-gay organization?

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And

I was just trying to help kids.

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You know, Elon Omar and some of her cohorts in Congress, they also support the Muslim Brotherhood, and that's an anti-gay organization.

So you want to figure out that?

You go ahead and then come talk to me.

Elon's been tweeting about you, by the way.

We should probably get into that at some point today.

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lineup, and what we're trying to do is

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Welcome, Dave Rubin.

How are you?

Glad it's good to be with you.

I officially handed the hard drive over to your people to be taken to Texas and uploaded.

So the deal is on.

You know, I tell you, Dave, it's so funny because we announced this

because they've been working on the contract for a while and going back and forth and with you and, you know, wherever you were, Botswana.

It wasn't real easy to be able to get

a contract done with you.

And

so we did it on a handshake before we announced it.

And I like that.

I like the idea that two people can come together and just look each other in the eye and just say, look, I know the attorneys have a lot of work to do, but we're not going to screw you.

You're not going to screw us.

Let's just be cool about this.

And I love that.

Yeah.

Well, I love it too.

And quite literally, I mean, five seconds before we did that live stream on my channel, we knew we were getting close, but you know, I wanted to announce it.

And we knew a lot of eyeballs would be on us and I just put my hand out and you put your hand out and I knew we would be good.

And within 24 hours, the lawyers took care of all the little legal stuff that you and I don't want to really think about.

But it's kind of funny.

So I did do this 33 days off the grid.

And the only thing that I did was every now and again, I had to jump on the phone with my lawyer.

to talk to the Blaze lawyers.

And I thought that's really something.

You try to escape the grid for 33 days and the only communication you have with the outside world is with a lawyer.

I may have done something slightly wrong.

Yeah, I think so.

I think so.

Dave, let me ask you a question.

I did Bridget Fetti.

I did Bridget Fettisy's podcast last week.

I did Stephen Kent.

He just did Beltway Banthas, which is a great.

I don't know if you've ever heard it.

I love the way he talks about politics.

He puts it all in with Star Wars.

And then I did yours.

And everybody always starts their podcast with, look, I know a lot of my listeners are, you know, they might hate this guy, but I think you're going to be really surprised.

And I always am bashed by everybody.

However, whenever I have you guys on, anybody, even on the left on my show, I rarely see people bashed.

I rarely know, I have yet to see maybe five in my career, people saying, if you have this person on, I'm no longer a subscriber of yours.

There's a difference between this audience.

Why can't we all just start to look at each other and go, hey, I don't agree with everything that Dave Rubin says or Glenn Beck says, but I'm glad everybody's talking.

Sure.

Well, look, if I do anything for you in the course of this partnership, hopefully it'll be that whatever remaining lefties are sane and willing to talk or the few liberals.

scattered throughout the galaxy that are willing to do that, hopefully I'll get them to say, you know, you don't don't have to give Glenn the intro where,

you know, you say, oh, I don't agree with everything he says or the rest of it, because nobody agrees with everybody, you know, anyone else on literally anything.

And, you know, you can find clips where I thought something different, you know, two years ago or four years ago.

And

evolving is really what it's all about.

It doesn't mean abandoning your beliefs.

It's really great.

In fact, that's what I love about you, your honesty.

You were,

I believe, the first person that I found that was willing to be really honest about the mistakes that you made in your life and were honestly doing soul searching, not for, I mean, in fact, against

any kind of business rule and business sense.

You were honest enough to say, look.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but

Bridget Fettesey says they were factory settings in her that were just set to liberal.

Were they factory settings with you that were set to liberal?

Yeah, well,

I think those factory settings, meaning that when you grow up, if you grow up basically in the secular world, which most of us in America mostly do, that the factory settings, the ideas that are going to be thought of as the okay ideas, the ideas that you can talk about without being labeled a racist or a bigot or the rest of it, they basically are ideas of the left, that, you know, the government can kind of fix everything and we should take from some and and give to the others.

And, you know, the litany of specific issues goes all the way down the line.

And when I, you know, as I was, I was a progressive, I was on the Young Turks, which is a pretty far-left network.

I always had true liberal roots, and I come from a truly liberal family in the best sense of liberalism, like a JFK liberalism or Daniel Patrick Moynihan or Ed Koch liberalism, which, you know, someone on the right might have some issues with, but usually find the conversation with people like that

okay.

Now, ironically, the three men I just mentioned, all once great politicians, they're all dead because there's very few of these liberals remaining.

And you can see that just with who the Democrats are putting up now.

But, you know, when you wake up out of that and you start asking questions, it's not that the specific issues change so quickly as you will be shocked where suddenly you will find friends and how and more importantly, how quickly the left will purge you out.

So, it's interesting what you said about your audience.

When you bring on a lefty, your audience is completely okay with it.

But when you go on a more lefty show, that they have to, you know, qualify it and quantify it and warn everybody.

And I find the same thing, which is actually hilarious.

So, when I bring on someone from the right,

you know, the lefties go completely insane.

If I, you know, even when I had you on the other day, I glance through the comments quickly, which no one in their right mind should do.

And a lot of people are very upset that I had Glenn Beck on.

When I bring on someone from the left, so even just in the last two months, I've had Marianne Williamson on, I've had Andrew Yang on, I've had plenty of lefties on.

Generally,

I would say something like 90% of the comments from the people on the right are basically like, you know, I disagree with these ideas, or Marianne Williamson is a little kooky, or I'm not down with UBI, Universal Basic Income with like Andrew Yang, but it was nice to hear the conversation.

And that right there, that right there, that in essence is the divide that we have in America right now.

And that's why I keep saying that on the, say, center-right,

you know, anywhere from conservative to libertarian,

there is such a richness right now.

And

that's the place that I'm interested in exploring.

That's why I wanted to do this partnership with you, and that's why I'm so psyched for the next year, which is obviously going to be pretty bananas.

There's an election.

It is.

Let me talk to you about Hollywood.

I was only out there for a couple of days, Dave, and

I saw a difference in almost everybody that I met with.

And here's the difference.

People who would never,

never

have voted for a Republican ever and certainly never for Donald Trump from big funders of the Democratic Party, big supporters, people who are lifelong Democrats, they have all said,

if it is anyone besides Biden, I'm voting for Trump.

Yeah.

I mean, it's crazy.

Look, I live here in Los Angeles.

It's quite a bubble.

I'm happy to say that you and I were able to go out in Beverly Hills and nobody assaulted us.

Actually, we got a couple smiles.

That was nice.

There is a shift.

There is a shift.

And the shift has, in a weird way, has less to do with what's happening on the right and more to do with how hysterical the left has become.

And

the idea that they've brought out Biden, who clearly, clearly does not want to do this and may not have the mental capacity or energy to do this at his age.

And he's fumbling and bumbling through a lot of stuff.

And he didn't run when Obama finished up his two terms.

So that kind of makes you think he didn't really want to do this.

But they brought him out as the last vestige, the last effort.

to stop the democratic socialist movement.

And that is what's coming.

And guess what?

They're going to drop the word democratic pretty quick.

I mean, they're holding on to that right now but if you watched any of this climate change summit that they did i mean the things that they were saying it was insane i mean bernie sanders was basically saying that unless we fund abortions in other countries in south america uh that that that's going to affect climate change i mean the policies are actually ridiculous if you if you listen to them however the factory settings of the way the media translates all of this for you, the average person that that the average person that's just out there that has a job and has a family and can only devote so much time to this,

they have trouble translating what all of that means.

And I think the job for people like us over the next year in a world that's getting more and more fractured for your time, it's going to be for us to be as efficient as possible in getting the most important stuff across because

otherwise, the more we get split, you know, the harder it'll be to get truth out of anything.

Right.

And that is one reason why, Dave, we have to stand together with people who have like principles.

If you believe in the Bill of Rights, you're good.

You're good.

I'll stand with you.

If you want to overturn the Bill of Rights, then we have problems.

But

we all speak different languages.

We all speak to a different audience.

The Uber left has broken us all apart and

successfully made it so no one can talk to each other.

And if we who are of like mind on the Bill of Rights

can't come together, we're going to be we're going to be destroyed we must stand together so you you can have a you can have a movement where you can say no look i i disagree with that person over there on this this and this but they're making a very important point

so we have a broader ground right now the mass media has that broad ground but we're all separated from each other we've got to link arms well you said something really interesting to me on the on the live stream a couple of days ago, which you were telling me which Democratic candidates had dropped out and could be staying and all that.

And you mentioned that Tulsi Gabbard is no longer, she hasn't dropped out, but they're not going to have her in the debates now.

And I thought you said something interesting,

which was that you disagree with her on almost all of her policy prescriptions, but you believe that she loves the country.

And that is where you want to be in a pluralistic country where there's over 300 million people in this country.

And

I do not want all of the people to agree with me, even if I am right about everything.

I'm pretty sure I'm not.

But even if I was, I would not want that because we need a healthy tension in a political debate to always keep us on check.

And that's why it's so disappointing that Twelfthie, it looks like she'll eventually have to drop because once they give you the signal that you're not in the debate,

you're pretty much toast.

But we need more voices like that.

And again, that's why I wanted to do this deal with the Blaze because we haven't even discussed big tech but there's so many forces right uh circling the wagons around us and i knew that that partnering with you and the blaze and what you guys have built and that's still my ability to remain independent as i said on the live stream you're you're not my boss i might be your boss we're still looking into that one um

it was a rather fast contract

That was why I shook your hand so quickly

there.

It was pretty clever.

Dave, hang on just a second.

Hang on.

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Dave Rubin has changed a lot from factory settings.

And Dave, I want to talk to you about one thing you said to me.

You were talking about going on the road with Jordan Peterson and how much he changed you.

You're known as an atheist, but

you've never been an atheist that, you know, I hate Christians.

You just don't believe in God.

But you said that that is changing somewhat for you, and I didn't gather that it was, I found God.

It's like you found the importance of God in society.

Did I read that right?

Yeah, well, basically, you know, the one thing I would say just quickly on the on the bio part of it, I grew up in a mostly secular Jewish household, and, we celebrated all the holidays.

We actually did Friday night Shabbat dinner, that sort of thing.

And it was really based in tradition, and I'm very proud of the, unfortunately, and often painful history of my people.

I have a huge identification with that.

But I never found a major need for religion itself per se.

I can sort of separate the tradition and the religion.

And, you know, it's a little bit different, I think, for Jews because there's a cultural attachment that almost has nothing to do with religion, but that's a whole other conversation.

A couple years ago, I had had a series of shows where I had a bunch of fairly well-known atheists on.

And in one of the shows, I said something about being an atheist, and it just sort of came out of my mouth, and it wasn't something that I had put too much thought into.

And then suddenly, the atheist community kind of really latched onto that.

And over the last couple of years, I've kind of walked that back because I do believe that there is something outside of myself.

And I think the year that I spent with Jordan on the road where, you know, he does these biblical lectures.

And, you know, I would would say the way I can frame a conversation about God actually would be the way that the founders tried to, which is that they were writing the laws that would free us from religion and not force us to be in any religion, but they talked about God-given rights, meaning that the government did not give us these rights.

Something outside of ourselves made us free.

So I think part of what's happening right now with the left is they've gone so deep on secularism.

They've gone so deep on, oh, we can fix this.

Man can bring us to utopia, which, of course, history repeats itself endlessly.

It only will bring us to dystopia.

I think that if you put too much faith in man, well, then you see what the progressives will always bring on you because the progressives of today will be hated by the

progressives of tomorrow.

So you need something outside of yourself.

And I would say

usually that comes within a religious context.

Dave, you are,

you're always fascinating.

I'd love to talk to you again.

We have so much to talk about with

Google and Amazon and Facebook and YouTube.

I know.

Did you hear the latest on what the administration is?

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You didn't like it, one.

No, I thought it sucked.

You're not allowed to say that sort of thing.

No.

That's like.

That's against the rules, right?

It is, right?

You can't talk about you.

That's like if you've got to be silenced.

You have to be de-personed.

But if somebody hears that and destroys the movie.

By the way, the latest Jordan Peele movie sucked too.

What was it?

Them, us?

Who was that true?

That sucked too.

You know what?

Get out was great.

This one sucked.

I hate to say it, and apparently it, too, seems to have been a bit more difficult.

It's getting brave views.

Oh, no.

Really?

Yeah.

Where are you going this week?

I don't know.

I didn't realize you were a fan of

it.

Oh, my gosh.

It's one of my favorite books.

Really?

Oh, I love it.

I love it.

Rafe read it when he was like 10.

He read it when he was 10.

And did he not sleep for the next six months?

No, he didn't bother him.

He didn't bother him?

No, he was just as pissed off about the spider as I was.

Yeah, the spider was.

Yeah, it was ridiculous.

He should have said 67%.

There's nothing wrong with that.

I mean, for a horror movie.

I mean, it's much lower than the first one.

What was the first one?

84%?

Yeah, I thought the first one was pretty good.

Yeah, it wasn't, but this one isn't either.

Yeah, it wasn't.

So

we have Burger King's new whoppers coming, right?

Oh, the Impossible Whopper.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's the rumor.

Have you heard?

Are they any good?

I have.

Aren't they from the same company?

Wouldn't it be about the same?

Well, somebody said that they're making them in the microwave.

Is it a lesser cut of plant

that

Hop Dotty is using?

It's actually a custom thing though made for Burger King because they have a certain like size that to fit the Whopper buns and

the look.

I think it has the grill marks on it and such.

Yeah, I heard that.

It does taste the same.

You can get it made in the microwave.

There was an issue with some,

you know, because it's like a Burger King grill.

Right.

And they're like Burger King's like, look, we're not cleaning it.

We're throwing it right in there just like every other burger.

So a lot of

real vegans who don't want any kind of

stew.

If meat touches anything on his plate, he won't eat anything on the plate.

Right?

I mean, I guess it does depend on the breakup there of that, right?

I mean, I wouldn't eat the thing that touched the meat.

But if it's on the other side,

there's no juice or...

Right, like if there's a demilitarized zone of mashed potatoes, I'll eat the other side of the mashed potatoes.

Do you have the little cafeteria plates with the little sections?

No, I don't.

I don't put meat on the plates because I don't eat it.

My daughter was to the point to where I was going to get those for her for her wedding gift, and she luckily got over that.

She couldn't touch food.

If it touched each other, she couldn't eat it.

Oh, right.

She was like, that was weird.

Yeah,

that happens to kids a lot, though.

Yeah.

Usually not when they're adults.

But it wasn't a meat thing.

Right?

No.

No, now it is.

Is she vegetarian?

Yeah.

Isn't that

I don't know what's happening here.

Tanya's talking about it too.

And I'm like, you are going to.

I'm tying her down tonight and I'm just forcing meat.

You're having some chicken.

Here's some fish.

Here's some beef.

Jack, you're going to like it.

For about three months now.

She just won't.

She said at first, oh, I'll have meat sometimes.

No, she has meat never.

No.

It's like, no, thank you.

Family get together.

She won't touch it.

I don't know why.

Why is it that I can't just have all meat?

Okay.

Everybody.

No, my wife is like, you can't just have all beef all the time.

Why?

Why?

You don't have any.

I'm making all of you.

You have all portions.

You are having all vegetables.

I want all beef.

I don't want chicken.

I don't want fish.

I want beef.

You can have that, right?

That's Atkins, essentially.

Yeah, no, but no, my wife.

Oh, you're saying not that it's a a dietary issue.

It's a, it's a, I can't stand up to my wife issue.

That's the issue.

Oh, my God.

Oh, wow.

Wow.

I'm just going to

hear that.

Wow, yeah.

Because Pat's wife is a vegan, and he seems to be having no trouble getting meat.

Plenty of meat.

So I don't know what your issue is exactly.

I just don't want conflict in my life.

I hate conflict.

Oh, I noticed that on Twitter.

When you're trading tweets with Elon Omar on Twitter, I'm sure.

I wasn't trading tweets with her.

Well, she's tweeting about you.

Yes, she's tweeting about you.

Oh, she did.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

She said she said Glenn was an idiot.

I'm an idiot because of what I've been exposing.

I'm just, this is dangerous stuff that's, you know, that's.

What have you exposed that she didn't?

All the lies about her with, you know, campaign finance.

That's right.

You did a whole special.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, because I just want to, can I walk people through this quickly?

Yeah, yeah.

So Glenn has a clip of his show posted in which he says, basically, basically, like Ilan Omar, I can't remember the exact context.

And of course, I think it was posted initially by Media Matters, so they never include any context.

So I don't even remember what you were talking about, but you said something about Ilan Omar and the destruction of America.

Like she's looking for the destruction of America or something like that.

Now, I don't know if you were talking about...

I don't know what you

couldn't grasp it from the context exactly what you meant.

But that was shared around the media.

And Ilan Omar saw that.

And she responded to you saying, as public officials, we can't really sue and just have to live with all the vile, untrue things people say about us.

Now, you wouldn't be familiar with that concept at all.

No, no, no.

That's totally foreign at all.

But Elon Omar goes on to say, But we can make sure that people understand what love for America really looks like, and that this idiot doesn't have an inch of the love that I have for our country.

Oh, she's so super patriotic.

I just want to say, I think it's an ounce, not an inch.

Okay, all right.

I just want to

throw that one in there.

At least you didn't go centimeter.

Right.

I mean, you didn't go metric, and that makes you feel good.

Yeah.

So, a little bit crazy.

Go ahead and bring these in.

These are the whoppers.

Smells good.

Food.

Yeah, just what we need, food.

This is patriotism right here.

All right, so we're going to try

the fake

meat and the real meat.

Oh, man.

And see if we can tell the difference between the whoppers.

But they haven't really upgraded the look of the whopper, have they?

No.

No, it's supposed to look and, you know, basically be the same type of thing.

Okay, one is different color.

One is more gray.

One is more brown.

Mm-hmm.

So.

Are there.

Okay, all right.

I think the gray one is probably more meat because they're not trying to make it look like meat.

So we're trying A first,

presumably.

Doing an impossible burger.

An impossible Whopper taste test, by the way, if you're just joining us.

And I would say that that's true, except the other thing is I'm just eating one because I don't eat the meat one, so I'm just eating an Impossible Burger, which is really not part of the taste test.

I'm just eating on the air.

So does that taste as good as the other one we had?

This tastes just as good or so ago as

the thing that I had last time I tried it.

Which is okay.

All right, Glenn and Pat now both trying the impossible Whopper and the regular Whopper.

There's two of them.

Cleansing my palate first, and now diving into the other one.

I think the real Whopper

is A.

Me too.

The fake Whopper is B.

Yep.

And it's still good.

I mean, it's not great.

It's still good.

The Whopper isn't great either.

Like the Whopper.

It's just a good point.

I wouldn't know.

You could serve it to me, and I wouldn't necessarily know.

You know, on this one, it tastes a little bit planty.

Well, this one.

It's pretty close, but it's not quite there.

I don't even know if that's the right one, though.

Well, I will say

this time, you are correct.

So last time you tried these with a more upscale burger place.

Could not tell the difference.

Actually, thought you went the reverse, right?

This is definitely a lesser cut of plant.

That lesser cut of plant.

Yeah.

Can you say it?

It's a frog or something.

I don't know.

No, it's not the same.

Well, they're charging a lot less for it, too.

I think it's the same price as a Whopper.

Really?

Isn't that right?

But at Hop Dotty,

it's a few dollars more than a regular burger.

It's not bad.

I mean, if our kids can forget what America was like before 9-11, they'll forget what meat tastes like if you just start serving them that.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I think that's it's definitely in the,

especially when you, you guys are eating around the edges where it's, you know, mostly meat.

You get to the middle where it's like cheese, you know,

ketchup, mayonnaise, like all the stuff that they put on a whopper.

I mean, I don't think, you know, there's not, there's not much.

It'll be very similar then.

Yeah.

Okay, so I have this from a Swedish behavioral scientist.

This is, you know, because the meat thing, we got to give up meat.

And we got to give up our cars and we have to give up our homes and we have to give up our air conditioning and we have to give up basically everything that you like that makes living as a human being on earth tolerable.

We have to give that all up because of global warming.

Oh, and we also have to kill, I think, brown children all around the world before they're born.

That is an interesting part of the climate change hysteria.

And the American taxpayers must pay for that.

Yes, of course.

This is Margaret Sanger.

Yeah.

I mean,

implicit in what they're promising is keeping Africa in the third world, right?

Right.

Their version of whatever it is.

It's stopping their progress where it is now.

Because if they develop, then the climate is in danger.

So we have to keep them where they are now.

I mean, not only is that a racist and hateful message,

it's an awful,

it's a borderline evil message.

You're trying to keep people out of the trappings that we have for the climate crisis and control over how much.

And, you know, for example, in Bernie Sanders' plan, it's $200 billion for this Green New Deal of his.

$200 billion.

That's not the cost of the plan.

That's the cost of the plan that he wants to take from taxpayers and just give to other countries.

Just give it to them.

Okay, hang on just a second.

We have another way.

Okay, instead of all this fancy meat, there is appearing on a Swedish television talk show

about,

you know, based on the food of the future, a Swedish behavioral scientist, Magnus Sunderland,

says that he is going to be holding seminars on the necessity of consuming a different kind of meat in in order to stop climate change.

He told the host of the show one of the biggest obstacles

of the proposal would be the taboo nature of the fact that we would be defiling the deceased and eating corpses.

Human corpses.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's just cannibalism he's talking about here.

He said people are slightly conservative when it comes to eating things they are not accustomed to, such as human cadavers.

Oh, my God.

Now, I would say that I'm a little more than slightly conservative when it comes to eating human cadavers.

Pretty adamant about it.

Yeah, I'm thinking that

I don't know what I would have done if I were trapped in the snow with a Donner party.

But none of them were like, well, I'm kind of conservative on eating my fellow traveler.

But you know what?

Afterwards, they tasted pretty good.

And I think we should go that way.

None of them went that way.

None of them.

Well, we don't know that.

We weren't there.

Well,

they did eat the others, but they didn't go back then and start thinking, hey, guys, I want to sell you on a new restaurant idea.

People burgers.

It didn't happen.

All right.

All right.

Thanks, Pat.

Take this.

You're going to take that?

You take that.

You take this, too.

You're going to leave the fake burger.

Wow.

There you go.

Thank you, you, Pat.

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And India is getting into this now.

And, you know, it's a little frightening.

Do you think it's frightening the gene splicing stuff and, you know, picking?

I mean, if you can gene splice and have your kid be super, super smart.

There's definitely some creepy areas here you can get into.

Yeah, there's creepy areas.

Some of it can be really positive, like disease elimination

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But some of it gets a little creepy.

Okay, so, well,

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Now, this is according to their National Commission for Cows.

It's not made of cows, it's a commission in favor of cows.

So, making sure it is a commission for cows.

For cows, not of cows.

Well, I'm not sure on that, so I'm going to get back to you on it.

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Well,

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