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Hour 1Pat and Stu wonder if they’ll be able to trust the GOP and President Trump not to back down on “red flag laws." The Democrats haven’t learned a single thing over the past two years, and it could well cost them the 2020 election. The president said he would rather take firearms first and go through due process second, but he’ll probably change his stance shortly. Only a small number of people with a diagnosed mental illness are more likely to commit acts of violence. MSNBC and CNN are even more unhinged than usual, from an outlandish claim about today’s date and neo-Nazis to baiting the NRA into attending a pro-gun control spectacle. It's super easy for an organization to take credit for a boycott taking a host off the air (even if they're merely on vacation).Hour 2The convention of Democratic Socialists wasn’t cringeworthy for the socialism as much as for the over-sensitivity of those in attendance. Some Millennials make great employees, but some leave something significant to be desired. Pat and Stu have a good laugh (and maybe a cry) over a twenty-something employee who was incredibly offended by being told that there is no "p" in “hamster.” Even Democrats are urging the president not to support “red flag laws," though for nefarious reasons. A Harvard professor takes on Sen. Ted Cruz over tech giants manipulating voters during the 2016 campaign.Hour 3Why have the Democrats completely abandoned the (very electable) pro-life and pro-gun rights positions? Simple anti-gun measures like universal background checks poll well, and you don’t need to fight hard for them. Chris Cuomo’s CNN rant continued with him simply saying that it was dumb not to adopt his stance on gun control. The Democrats are running an entire campaign on a lot of the things that were included in the suspected El Paso killer’s manifesto. Some Republicans are going so far as to support a ban on “military-style weapons.” Jeff Fisher joins the program to chew the fat. Here’s your reminder that Colin Kaepernick is not out of the NFL because of his political stance; he’s unemployed because he’s a lousy quarterback. Artificial diamonds? Great. Artificial burgers? Almost great. Stu provides the latest update on the Democratic field.
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Wow, there was, I mean,

so much insanity going on.

I don't know if it starts with the CNN Town Hall last night or with Corey Booker or

there's just so much.

Where do you even begin?

I love how nothing

that the Republicans, even though the Republicans are bending over backward right now and many of them caving in to

gun control mindset, that's not enough.

Nothing's enough.

Nothing's ever enough.

This is why you don't cave in.

Yeah, because it won't be enough.

It will never be enough.

We're seeing this now.

Chuck Schumer, he's warning the GOP against settling for tepid red flag laws.

So, the red flag law thing, which is completely controversial to conservatives, is a massive move to the left.

It is a constitutional violation.

It is

the type of thing that we took calls all day yesterday, all day yesterday from people who love Donald Trump and are like, don't cross this line.

Please don't cross this line.

This is really, really bad.

I talked to David Harris Jr.,

and David Harris Jr.

is a pretty MAGA guy, you know, big, big Trump supporter.

He's not quite as pro-Trump as Donald Trump, but he is more pro-Trump than Donald Trump Jr.

He's in between those two.

David's great.

I love him.

But he's like a big Trump guy.

Yeah.

And he said yesterday, same thing on his social feeds.

They said, like, you know, look, we love Donald Trump.

He's done a great job.

Don't cross this line.

It's too big of a deal.

And I think this comes to the core of Donald Trump, who's a guy who's

lived in New York as a rich guy behind security.

In that environment, I was born in New York.

I grew up partially in New York, partially in Connecticut.

In that region, it's just not part of your life.

You don't think about guns all that often.

And especially if you're Donald Trump living in the top of a tower, that's the last thing in the world you're concerned about.

It's not part of your core.

You don't see the Second Amendment the same way, probably.

And so I don't know that he would understand what a big deal this would be to someone who really cares about the Second Amendment.

And we, man, we heard it like crazy yesterday.

I mean, I think there was one caller yesterday who said, you know, I really like what he's, I understand at least he's trying to address mental health, which I think is, of course, true.

But already the Democrats are saying, look,

that's not enough.

You can't, you can't just give us this.

This is what's so frustrating about being

a conservative and having the only real representative for you being the Republican Party because they are constantly folding on these things.

They're terrible.

And they just do stuff like, well, you know what?

The Democrats want $700 billion for this project.

We only want to give them $400 billion.

And you're like, well, yeah, but

what about the option of not doing it?

And there's no one who represents that side of these issues.

What about the option of spending less?

Yeah, that doesn't exist.

It doesn't exist.

It's impossible.

Actually, I have a Republican congressman from Ohio, Michael Turner, who's actually talking about

not just the red flag laws, but also a limit on the magazine limits.

Yep.

And

a ban on assault weapons.

Yep.

Assault weapons.

Assault.

Yes.

Because they assault people.

That one is really fascinating to me because obviously, you know, every weapon

is an assault weapon.

This is a, I got a breaking news for you.

You can assault people with any weapon, and I don't mean just guns.

No, you could have an assault knife.

There's a reason why I can assault you with a knife.

Yeah.

There's a reason why we own 10 times per capita the amount of guns as Russia, and they have much double the murder rate because people are able to kill other people with other things.

Pakistan, same thing.

Pakistan has almost no gun violence problem.

You want to move there?

Let me get you on Zillow.

I could jam a spoon in your eye right now, and that might be an assault.

Right.

It's like,

I mean, does anyone remember Paris?

Right?

Like, or was it, I mean, Nice, I'm thinking of, when they went down, you know, in the middle, you'd run over people with a street festival in your truck.

87 people?

It seems

a lot.

It was a lot.

Does it seem, does any, are any of those people like, oh man, at least I wasn't shot?

No, no, that's not the way that works.

You know, you can do these things.

There was a big stabbing yesterday, right?

Four people were killed in a stabbing yesterday.

Yeah.

And again, that would be, that would qualify on the mass shooting list if it happened to be done with a gun.

But I guess because it's not with a gun and there's no political gain there, no one cares.

Well, the people who got, you know, who are victims of these crimes still care.

You know, the people who are in Chicago who do get shot in gun violence, but not the type of gun violence that moves you the needle on your polls, those people care.

Which is why I strongly believe

after

if they got some kind of ban on, let's say, rifles, let's say you ban assault rifles,

Then they'd have to go for handguns as well because the carnage will continue.

The carnage, like in Baltimore and Chicago, is not going to be abated by banning rifles.

You're going to have to, and

they'll come after handguns as well.

It's just the beginning.

You open up this door, they're going to keep walking through it.

It's just, it would never end.

And that's why we just can't give in.

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It's gotten so the media people and the media

don't even care.

They hate Trump so much, they don't even care if what they're saying about him is remotely accurate.

Like Nicole Wallace,

who claimed that Trump has been talking about exterminating Latinos.

Her guest is like, yeah.

No.

He has not been talking about that.

That is something that the president has never, never done.

Well, a lot of times this stuff just is like a game of telephone, right?

Like maybe she happened to hear, she happened to tune into TV when Betto O'Rourke was saying that Donald Trump was saying the same rhetoric as the Third Reich.

Right.

And maybe she heard that and thought, well, that's extermination.

I guess I can now say this.

Like, they all just kind of pass it on just a little bit.

And then when she's called out on it,

her only statement is, she tweets, I misspoke about Trump calling for an extermination of Latinos.

My mistake was unintentional, and I'm sorry.

Trump's constant assault on people of color and his use of the word invasion to describe the flow of immigrants is intentional and constant.

So it's still his fault.

It's still his fault, obviously.

It's not her mistake, really.

It's just

that he's so awful.

You know what I found really, I was thinking about this yesterday, and

it is remarkable

where these people go.

We've talked about this at the beginning of the administration, Pat.

If the Democrats had, instead of launching a massive march and rally on literally the day after Donald Trump's inauguration, saying how horrible of a president and person he was when he hadn't even done anything,

if they had approached this going to him and saying, like, Look,

we want a bunch of stuff.

We think you're the type of guy that can get a deal done and we're going to work with you and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Trump would have gone along with, I think, a lot of these things because he, you know,

I don't think he, I think he is much more in this, in the fight of this.

And when they attack him, he's going to attack back.

I think he, I mean, we saw it with criminal justice reform.

He's willing to work with the other side.

He is.

I mean, he's, that's been his whole life.

You know, he, so I don't think that's a

crazy thing.

But, but the other thing, the lesson that, and I'm, by the way, I'm glad they didn't do that because God only knows what policies would have been passed.

But the, the, they hate him too much to do it.

Right.

Even if it was to their benefit, they just hate him too much to do it.

Yeah.

And I think that's true.

And it's, it's fascinating to see what's going on now where they are now calling

every person who supports Donald Trump a racist.

Yeah.

Go back to the 2016 election.

Have they learned the lesson of the basket of deplorables from Hillary Clinton?

You know, Hillary came out and you go back and that became sort of a thing, right?

Like the deplorables, oh, we're the deplorables, we're the deplorables.

Go back and look at Hillary Clinton's statement.

You can argue with certain parts of it, but generally speaking, it's true and it's true about every candidate.

Right?

Every single candidate has supporters who are awful.

And Donald Trump is no exception to that.

Neither is Hillary Clinton, by the way.

But every candidate has, you know, she said it as a basket of deplorables.

There's some people

who are

supporters of a candidate who are doing it for really bad reasons, whether it's racism, whether it's sexism, whether it's socialism, whether it's extremism, whatever the thing is, everybody has that level of support in some way.

And her point was not, she was not, that point was not about talking about how bad Donald Trump supporters are.

If you go back and read the actual text of it, what she's saying is, yes, there are some supporters, she's talking to a Democratic audience and saying, yeah, you know, I know you guys are always talking about the really bad people, the deplorables, but they also have a lot of people who can be won over to the cause.

They're not, they don't, they don't like this stuff.

They don't like Donald Trump's evil rhetoric, blah, blah, blah.

Right?

Like, I'm not saying I agree with her point, but generally speaking, what she's saying is there's a separation.

There's good Trump supporters and bad Trump supporters.

And we have to acknowledge there are good Trump supporters.

So Hillary Clinton is making the exact opposite point in 2016 that the Democrats are making now.

The Democrats are saying all of the Trump supporters are bad.

They've actually gone the other way.

They haven't learned the lesson that calling half of his supporters deplorables was a bad idea.

Their lesson is we should have called them all deplorables.

Yeah.

They've actually gone the other way completely.

Yeah.

And this is something that I think arguably lost them the election.

And hopefully we'll do so again.

And I mean, this is how bad they are at this.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, they have not learned a single lesson from the last two years.

And, you know, obviously because they're supporting socialism, this is a good thing for, I think, the Constitution and the American people in general.

But it's just fascinating to watch a party do this to itself.

Like, Donald Trump has got a 42, 43% approval rating.

This should not be an unwinnable election, but they're trying to make it into one.

It really is.

Like, they've just, they're like, well, what if we raise the mountain even higher for us to climb?

And we should be thankful for it.

Yeah, that at least.

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Just to prove your point, Stu, about what they could be doing and maybe President Trump would even be on their side.

Remember this from last year

where

they were sitting around a giant conference table, and the president was talking about taking guns early without due process.

Listen to this.

Yes, go ahead, Mike.

Well, in the category, you spoke about it, Mr.

President, gun violence restraining orders, they're called.

California actually has a version of this.

And

I think you, in your meeting with governors earlier this week, individually and as a group, we spoke about

states taking steps, but the the focus is to literally give families and give local law enforcement additional tools if an individual is reported to be a potential danger to themselves or others.

Allow due process so that no one's rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order, and then collect not only the firearms, but any weapons in the possession of the state.

Or Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that's another system.

Because a lot of times

it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man's case that just took place in Florida he had a lot of fires they saw everything to go to court would have taken a long time so you could do exactly what you're saying but take the guns first go through due process

no maybe not no

bad feeling about that option yeah I mean again he likes taking them first and then worry about it later It takes so long to adjudicate things.

Let's not bother with that.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

A little unconstitutional, fortunately.

It's an amazing clip.

And I think, you know, if his supporters hear that they think that that's a bad idea,

there's a good chance that he sees that.

I mean,

I think he will.

We saw this back in the day when he was talking,

he was being sort of cornered on the abortion issue

in an interview, and they were like, hey, Don, you know, what do you think happens to these women?

Do they go to prison if they have an abortion?

He's like,

yeah, I think they have to.

Because he hadn't really thought about it.

Right.

It wasn't one of those things that, you know, this has not been his life, right?

So a lot of these issues, the nuance of some of these issues, he is not necessarily fully digested, but he doesn't have to make.

on the spot decisions on a topic like this.

Sometimes, as a president, you do have to make those.

Most of the time, you don't.

You have time to deliberate.

You have time to talk to your advisors.

You have time to have a room of people who disagree come in, fight it out in front of you, and pick one.

I mean, I tweeted this yesterday.

The both sides of the red flags law

well represented.

Between an article by Dana Lash, or a column by Dana Lash, and a column by David French.

David French is on the side of,

in this case, the president, saying, you know, red flag laws are a good idea.

Dana Lash is on the side of saying, you know what, they just don't work out well, even though they're well-intentioned.

And you kind of read, like, there's really, I think, good, reasoned arguments if you're a conservative for both sides of this.

You know, I definitely come down on Team Dana on this particular issue.

I mean, she

has it right when it comes to the Constitution.

And when you have these questions, especially about a constitutional issue, you need to side, you know, err on the side of liberty.

You need to err on the side, even some when you know, I think with

both moves, you're going to have some negative output.

But there's going to be no solving mass shootings from red flag laws.

I mean,

there's no evidence of that whatsoever.

No evidence of it.

There's never, as far as I know, has never been one case where where they believe it's actually stopped a mass shooting.

There has been cases where they believe it stops suicides, which, again, is there's a reason to like that, obviously.

Yeah.

But that doesn't mean it gets constitutional because it works.

A lot of people forget that.

It's like the thing with net neutrality.

People are like, well,

these companies could just throttle my internet and then I can't watch my Netflix shows.

How am I going to watch Handmaid's Tale on Hulu?

It's going to buffer.

And I think people get confused.

You know, there are some things

that are human rights and some things that are just awesome.

They're not the same.

The internet's awesome.

It is not a human right.

It is not a right in this country.

There's no constitutional right for you to not have to buffer Handmaid's Tale.

That is not a constitutional right.

And just because you might really like the show and really want the show to work fast,

that doesn't mean you get to force companies with the things that they built to treat you a different way.

That is not America.

That's not the way it's supposed to work.

Yeah.

The way it works is if somebody's buffering your handmaid tail, you switch servers.

You switch companies.

You go somewhere else.

And by the way, that almost never happens.

These companies with all the power in the world to buffer your handmaid's tail decide instead to just give it to you really high-quality 4K video because they want to keep getting your money.

That's the free market.

Yeah.

It works really well.

If it buffers enough, you're going to get pissed and you're going to stop paying them the money for it.

Yep.

You'll go somewhere else.

It's kind of, it's called capitalism, and it works pretty well.

You know?

Yeah.

You hear all the time from the Democrat candidates that this is the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

They never talk about the fact that we got there through capitalism.

And now you're trying to switch us to socialism, which doesn't work and wouldn't have gotten us there.

It doesn't make any sense.

No, but we keep going down these things.

These rules keep popping up because we want to go down these roads of government control.

We all feel better, apparently, when the government tells us

everything's going to be okay.

And even with these mental health laws, mental health concerns and red flag laws, it's amazing.

For example, there's a story in the New York Times talking about

mental health and how big of a problem that is.

They say scientists find that only a small fraction of people with persistent mental distress are more likely than average to commit violent acts.

Patients with paranoid schizophrenia, which is characterized by delusional thinking and often so-called command hallucinations, frightening voices, identifying threats where none exist.

People living in this kind of misery are far more likely to be the victims of violence than perpetrators, but they can act violently themselves, especially when using drugs or alcohol.

The clearest recent case is Jared Loffner, the college student who opened fire in an event in Tucson, Arizona, hosted by Gabrielle Giffords in 2011, killing six and wounding 13.

Mr.

Loffner's online post demonstrated increasing drug use and paranoid fantasies.

I thought that was caused by a pamphlet that had the word target

and reload on it.

Now we are finally coming to the point where we're saying, oh yeah, that was complete insanity, making sure I understand this.

Because at the time, you know, it was an ad that said, we're targeting these districts.

We can't retreat.

We need to reload.

And

that was the cause of it for many years.

Now we finally learn, oh, by the way, it's the most clear example of mental health in recent memory.

Now,

now we're on that.

Now that none of the people involved are in office anymore, it's okay to say, by the way, this guy was just insane.

And

his big concern literally was grammar.

You remember?

He was like, he was, he had some ideology based on some new kind of grammar that he wanted to implement.

Insane.

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In every way.

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Frank Figliuzzi on MSNBC had

a powerful point

to make about Donald Trump with the raising and lowering of the flags.

I mean, this is

some pretty

brainy axe stuff here.

This is

well, you're saying from the Trump administration, who is there's such white supremacists.

Yeah, that they've been.

This is like 50-dimensional chess that they're playing here with their white supremacy.

Listen to this.

He'll clue us.

We have to understand the adversary and the threat we're dealing with.

Right.

And if we don't understand how they think, we'll never understand how to counter them.

Thank you.

So it's the little things and language and messaging that matters.

The president said that we will fly our flags at half mast

until August 8th.

That's 8-8.

Oh my god.

Now I'm not going to imply that he did this deliberately, but I am using it as an example of the ignorance of the adversary that's being demonstrated by the White House.

The numbers 8-8 are very significant in neo-Nazi and white supremacy movement.

Oh my god.

Why?

Because the letter H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.

And to them, the numbers 8-8 together stand for Heil Hitler.

Oh, my God.

So he's going to be raising the flag back

at dusk on 8-8.

No one's thinking about this.

No one's giving him the advice, or he's rejecting the advice.

Yeah, no one is thinking about it.

Well, I'll give you that.

I'll give him that.

Yeah, no, he's right.

He's right about that.

Other than him.

That is unbelievable.

It is really one of those strange things

because there is a thing online.

This is something that is relatively well known among people who cover white nationalism and white supremacy.

There's two big things.

The 8-8, which HH, Heil Hitler

is a real thing that they do online sometimes.

And there's also a thing called, what is it, 14 words?

Do you know what I'm talking about?

I can't think of it exactly, but it's something like that.

It's a phrase that says something about how white people are being targeted or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Some nonsensical

white supremacy thing.

And so those are two things that they talk about a lot in these extremist groups.

However, that does not mean everything that occurs on August 8th has to do with that.

I don't know.

I don't know

what's he supposed to do.

Like, he's supposed to hold it to August 9th so then white supremacists don't think he's signaling Heil Hitler to them.

I mean, this is, this is bonkers.

How do you, how does this, how do you bring this guy back on next time after that?

That's a type of thing that's like

you just don't, you don't come back on as an expert after that segment, right?

Right.

Instead, he'll be on tomorrow.

Yeah, he will.

Yes.

Saying the same thing.

Now, if,

come on, if people were doing that to Obama when he was in office, they would have been laughed off of the air and they wouldn't come back

because, you know,

there'd be boycotts of the channel if you brought him back.

They would have boycotted Fox News if you would have done that kind of stuff to Obama.

Of course.

But I guess it's perfectly fine.

Did boycott it for much less.

Right.

You're boycotting it right now.

Less.

This is a funny thing that's going on with Tucker Carlson right now because there's a thing that trended yesterday that said fire Tucker Carlson.

Because he said that the white supremacy thing is a hoax.

Right.

And so if you look at...

Because there's nothing to it.

How many white supremacists do you know?

Oh, none.

None.

Obviously.

Zero.

I mean, look, there's a very small amount of white supremacists in this country.

That's a fringe element.

Incredibly small amounts.

Just like we were told all the time with the Black Panthers.

Oh, that's a fringe element.

Why are you even talking about them?

Don't even talk about him.

In both cases, I do think it is important to fight that ideology and show how stupid it is yeah you know and it is important for people in the fbi to make sure that they understand what the hell is going on because it doesn't take a lot you don't need you don't need a thousand right how many we're talking about what 24 people at 9-11 right you didn't you don't you don't need hundreds of thousands of people to be damaging and so it's good that we fight these things but like to act as if it's a massive problem That is what is what he was trying to say.

It's like it is not a widespread ideology.

For example, and we talked about this, I think, a little bit earlier this week on this show.

If you want to say there's 250-plus mass shootings in this country, you can try to say it because, by some definitions, and the definitions in my mind are completely ridiculous because it does not at all identify as what we think of when we think about a mass shooting.

But if you want to use that number, you can.

And you're going to say it's from

the

gun violence archive is the place that comes up with that number.

And basically, they say anytime there's been an incident where four people have been shot, whether anyone dies or not, whether it's

police firing at people, whether it's a mistake, you know what I mean?

Like a gun goes off and hits a couple times.

Who knows?

One person, domestic violence, gang violence, anything, all qualifies.

That's why we have 250 mass shootings.

Somebody kills their own family.

Exactly.

That'd be a mass shooting.

Right.

So that is

the reason they love that number is because because it's so scary.

Holy crap, there's been 250 of these.

I'm not even hearing about them.

That's how common they are.

That's what they want the average person to react to.

At the same time, they want to tell you the problem with mass shootings is white nationalism, white supremacy.

Well, you can't have both of those things.

The problem with it is, if you look at the faces of the people.

that have committed the 251 mass shootings in this country, it's going to be hard to convince people that they're white supremacists because most of them aren't white.

The overwhelming majority of them are not white.

And that doesn't mean that anything like, oh, that race is bad or whatever.

What it means is the overwhelming majority of our crime problem is an inner city gang violence problem.

It's not white supremacy.

So you have to abandon your racial anti-white supremacy point to get the 251

number

or you have to abandon the 251 number and go with a number that is a lot less impressive, which is six.

And six would be the number of the real mass shootings that we think about in this country, three of which were done by white people.

So you can go down these roads if you'd like,

but you're going to lose your little racial point and then tell us about how above race you are.

Please, please do that.

And I think like that's the type of thing that people don't realize, right?

You know, you go on Facebook and you see people that you know, and they're people, when you have conversations with them, they seem intelligent and relatively well-informed and have absolutely no idea the facts of these situations.

I have Pat, I went on the air Monday and started talking about the issue with this manifesto where he goes into a large portion of the manifesto of the two complaints he has.

One is white supremacy and immigration, one is environmentalism.

Very clearly outlines both cases in this manifesto.

I have yet to see one mainstream media source point out that he talked about environmentalism.

All of these people are like, well, if you look at his manifesto, it's white supremacy.

Well, yeah, it was partially white supremacy.

It was also so much plastic waste, and we are overutilizing our resources.

And all of us.

We need to eliminate people

because they're using up too many resources.

Overpopulation scare that we're parroting that ideology that has been around in the environmentalist community forever.

This guy sounded like Jay Inslee

in this manifesto.

Does that mean Jay Inslee is responsible?

Well, of course not.

Oh,

sorry.

But I mean, the other side of that is you're doing exactly what the other side is doing.

I know.

They're saying Trump is responsible because, and he's not even a white nationalist.

They are environmentalists.

They're not denying that.

They're running on it.

They are running on the things he said in his manifesto.

Trump isn't running on the things

of white nationalism.

Yes, he's saying there's a problem at the border and he's used the word invasion, which apparently is like, I mean, it's basically a DNA test proving he was the murderer to the media.

Well, there's much more clear things that people are embracing on the left that were in that manifesto.

And I don't think anybody knows it.

Like, that's what's incredible.

This audience knows it.

Maybe a couple of conservative sites have picked up on this since Monday, but very few.

And the mainstream media won't even admit it occurred.

That is a major problem, man.

They are falling down on the job, and they're falling down on the job because all they care about, they don't care about who was shot,

just want to make this into a thing and they can take down Trump with it.

That's it.

It's incredible.

All it is.

I mean,

when you turn on that

town hall, Chris Cuomo conducted last night.

Is that what you call it?

I guess.

Yeah.

So bad.

I mean,

it's embarrassing how bad that was.

First of all, he talked about inviting the NRA to the town hall.

Here's what Chris Cuomo said about inviting the NRA.

We also invited the National Rifle Association, the NRA, to be part of its conversation.

They declined.

They sent a totally disingenuous statement that they're open to honest discussion, but not this spectacle.

That's what you call this?

A spectacle?

Yes.

I guess they want to do their talking with propaganda ads and millions and lobbying.

They came last time.

Besides, let's let's be honest.

The gun lobby is not going to be the answer.

And that shouldn't be expected any more than we expected big tobacco to help us expose the ills of smoking.

The reality is, people like you are the answer.

And there can be no sides when it comes to wanting to be safer, better protected.

There just can't be.

Not anymore.

God, he's horrible.

By the way,

first of all, they act, oh, the NRA.

They're cowards.

They came to the last thing that you did.

Daniel Ash was there.

You praised the Broward sheriff on stage for an entire hour.

You had an audience there applauding.

And it was a spectacle.

It was a spectacle.

And by the way, you also had CNN employees talking to Dana Lash off the air and saying, Hey, I want to make sure you have security so you can get out of here.

Why on earth would they send somebody again to your event?

Why on earth would they do that?

You created a real security threat for the people who came to very respectfully argue and converse about a serious constitutional issue.

You had people screaming obscenities at them the entire time, and you created a security threat for them.

Yeah.

And you're like, oh, well, now they won't show up to our little party.

I wonder why.

We bashed their brains in last time, and it was completely unfair to them.

Why don't they want to do that again?

It's like, wow,

they're no fun at all.

We really wanted to do it again.

Ben Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Back Program, 888-727-BECK.

Tucker Carlson, we kind of got started on this and got sidetracked, but Tucker Carlson's being targeted with this fire Tucker Carlson thing because of his rant.

And yesterday he announced he's going on vacation.

And of course, as is always the case, all of these boycott organizations

take credit and say that, oh, well, he got suspended.

See, it worked.

And this is the great thing about being one of these organizations is when you're in constant boycott mode of every host on a network, eventually one of them goes on vacation.

And so you get to take credit for it.

I can remember, and I'm sure you can remember this as well, Pat, when we were at Fox, and I think at CNN too, but I remember specifically at Fox,

when we would go on vacation every time they took credit, they would take credit as if we were being suspended because of some thing that they did or some boycott, some advertiser they say pulled out that was never on the show or whatever.

Yep.

And we would have to go and dig out documentation, emails from months earlier where we set up our vacation schedules for the year and say, this was scheduled all this time ago.

And we had the media was 100% willing to accept the reasoning of the boycott organizations unless we could prove our own innocence with documentation.

It was like we were being suspended unless you guys can come up with something that shows you you had a vacation.

It was never like, well, how about them having to prove that we're being suspended?

We just have to prove our own innocence.

We're guilty until proven innocent.

And still, many of these media organizations still ran with the idea that we were being suspended, despite the fact that we gave them emails from months earlier saying when our vacation was.

It was impossible.

It really was impossible.

I mean, the media is so horrible with this stuff because you know what?

They can taste it.

They want him, Tucker Carlson, in this case, or Laura Ingram another day, or Glenn Beck another day.

They want them fired so badly so they can feel like they've accomplished something with their journalism degrees.

Yeah.

And they just dive into it.

And it is something that they have to know isn't real, but it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter if they can come up with some justification to make people believe that in reality he's being suspended.

And I don't know.

I don't know the Tucker Carlson situation.

I just know with us, that did not happen.

And it was not the case.

They did not suspend us.

I mean, you're watching the

Showtime show about about the era of us at Fox and the whole Fox founding.

It was called The Loudest Voice.

I don't know if they addressed that particular thing, but they did go into the Glenn targeting many times.

Yeah.

And

they also go in.

This is an ancillary

point, maybe, but they also go into what Fox did to people from time to time.

And they did it to us from time to time.

They did.

I will say that is an additional point.

Yes.

And probably one I should bring up.

And he occasionally helped with that.

You know what?

You're right.

I shouldn't bring that up because in the media's defense,

there were people at Fox continually leaking against us too.

Which is strange.

And people have a hard time believing that, but now you see it, and you can kind of understand why.

Because they didn't want anybody getting bigger than the network.

And anybody who started to get really big,

they wanted to beat you down a little bit and let you know

who was boss and who was in charge and who was really uh you know the

who was really in charge and they they showed you every once in a while

that's a fascinating there's a little element of that there is the show good i i've loved it i think it's really compelling really yeah really compelling is it i mean obviously there's some left-wing

yes but it's well absolutely and some total and complete lies about fox and them making up stories uh out of whole cloth and it's just not true and then there's you know a few elements like we just discussed that are in fact quite true.

It's interesting to watch.

Interesting.

We lived it.

It was a roller coaster die man.

Yeah.

It was interesting.

Yep.

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Yes, go ahead.

Thank you.

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Now, apparently, you've got a story that's even more pathetic than the people we saw at the socialist convention.

I think it's at least

on that level.

Really?

And it's really telling because, you know, look, it's a socialist convention.

I don't, maybe you would expect it to be a little nuts like that.

Honestly, I'm surprised.

I didn't, I didn't expect it.

I mean,

I just expected socialism.

I didn't expect the weenieism that came out of it.

Right, because there is that level of, I need a cry space, a crying cave.

I need a safe space.

And I feel like we hear those stories from time to time.

And usually that's college stuff.

It's usually college stuff.

And it's usually, I don't know, for some reason,

I don't want to say I dismiss it

because it is something real that's happening and it's so bizarre and extreme to me.

On the other hand, though, it's so laughable.

And I think it's one of those things that even when you, like, if you tell a story like that, you know, I have plenty of friends who vote Democrat.

If I tell that story to them, they're going to laugh at it too.

Yes.

And they're going to be embarrassed by them.

They're going to be embarrassed by them.

That is very, it's so crazy.

Like, you know, it's not just a Democratic voter.

It's not just a Democratic Socialist voter.

It's not a Green Party voter.

It's a socialist, like you're in the Democratic Socialist Party.

So I guess it's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-level craziness.

She's a card-carrying member, right?

But it's not.

Your average Democratic voter, right?

Like that is not who people, they don't operate like that.

I don't think so.

Yeah, I hope we're not quite there yet.

They're super liberal.

They want higher taxes.

They're wrong on all of these issues, but they're not saying, hey, wait, guys, don't make noise.

You're, you know, what was it?

You're hurting my focus.

Yes.

And don't use it.

Defending your sensibility.

I'm really sensitive to sound and smell and sight and taste.

And you stop all of my senses right now.

And apparently everything else.

Yes.

So there's a story

by a

she told this story on Twitter, and it's, I think, one of the more fascinating insights into what our future looks like in America.

And what if you happen to be a boss who is employing people from this generation and trying to figure out how the hell to do it?

Tell me this story does not relate to you.

We'll get into it in 60 seconds.

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All right.

All right, you ready for this?

I'm ready for it.

Yeah.

Here is the story.

Here's hopefully a short synopsis of something that happened this week that I still don't understand.

In office space near a client, a young woman was meeting with her boss.

She was, by my estimation, in her late 20s.

The boss, also a woman, was giving her feedback and reviewing edits she had made on something that this young woman wrote.

They had been speaking in low tones, but their volume got louder toward the end of the conversation because the young woman was getting agitated about a particular edit.

So she wrote some article, she's getting edits from her boss.

She doesn't like this one edit.

This happens all the time

in this world.

The particular edit was correcting the spelling of hamster to hamster.

Now, I'm going to give you to read the spelling.

She spelled it, the employee spelled it H-A-M-P-S-T-E-R.

Now, that is not what the word is, obviously.

It's hamster, H-A-M-S-T-E-R.

Yes.

Okay.

So she spelled it hamster, like a hamper where you throw your clothes.

Yeah.

Right.

But hamster, meaning the animal, there's no P in there.

Okay.

Pretty basic.

Right.

So she spelled it wrong and somebody corrected her.

Right.

She's hacked off about it.

She had used the phrase like spinning in a hamster wheel.

in the draft.

And it was like they were talking about it being like an op-ed or a speech or something.

So spinning in a hamster wheel, H-A-M-P-S-T-E-R.

So the boss is saying, hey, we got to change that to H-A-M-S-T-E-R.

The young woman kept saying, I don't know why you corrected this because I spell it with a P in it.

And the boss said calmly, but that's not how the word is spelled.

There is no P in a hamster.

And the young woman replied, but you don't know that.

I learned to spell it with a P,

and that's how I spell it.

The boss, remaining very calm and professional, let's go to dictionary.com and look it up together.

Now, again,

as the writer points out, this is a woman in her late 20s, not a fifth grader.

The young woman insists she doesn't need to look it up because it's fine to spell it with a P because that's how she wanted to spell it.

Okay.

The boss says, Let's look over the rest of this piece so I can explain the rest of my edits.

They do, and I can see the young woman is fighting back tears.

The boss is calm, cool, and handles this with professionalism and empathy.

The boss says, I know edits can be difficult to go over sometimes, especially when you're working on new kinds of things as you grow in your career.

But it's a necessary process and makes us all better at what we do.

Can't handle it better than that, right?

You can't handle this craziness better than that.

The boss gets up from the table and goes to her office, and the young woman can barely hold it together.

She moves to another table.

Is there a crying room in this workspace?

I hope there's a problem.

I hope there is.

Apparently, there was not.

Oh, no.

Because she goes to another table

in the common workspace area, drops all her stuff loudly on the tabletop, and starts texting.

A minute later, her phone rings.

It was her mom.

So she called her mom.

She had texted her mom

to call her because it was urgent and i'm sure her mother mother might have thought you know i don't know she's in the er or something she then in the common workspace puts her mom on speakerphone okay

she bursts into tears and wants her mom to call her boss and

now i'm guessing if i i don't know this story i'm guessing mom will do that because this is obviously how she's been brought up.

How else could she be this way, right?

Okay.

Yeah.

She bursts into tears, wants her mom to call her boss and tell her not to be mean about telling her how to spell words like hamster.

Oh, my gosh.

The mother tells her that her boss is an idiot.

This is again on speakerphone.

And she doesn't have to listen to her.

And she should go to the boss's boss to file a complaint about not allowing creativity in her writing.

Why don't you just spell every word the way you want then?

Why not?

How would anyone communicate with each other if you could just spell words however you want?

The young woman kept saying, quote,

unbelievable.

I thought what I wrote was perfect and she just made all these changes and then had the nerve to tell me I was spelling words wrong when I know they are right because that is how I have always spelled them.

Now that is not the way you figure out whether something is right or not.

This is that world, right, where like every fact is morally relative, right?

Like there's some relative thing.

Well, I think it's right, so therefore it's right.

I have my truth, right?

It's that sort of rationale.

Yep.

She says she then went on, still on speakerphone, to tell her mom that I'm very great.

And often.

By the way, there's no embarrassment factor here.

Oh, I know.

Everybody's hearing this.

You're in a common workspace on speakerphone.

I always have those thoughts when you're like in an airport and someone's like in a fight on their speakerphone, like sitting on a bench around.

Like what person thinks that's the right thing to do?

It's incredible.

Like you go to the corner if you have to have this conversation right now and you do it quietly and calmly.

You don't put it on speakerphone and yell swears at the person, but yet that happens like every other time I'm at an airport.

The woman then, the employee, then went on still on speakerphone to tell her mom, I'm very great, and office inappropriate detail

about how hungover she was and what she did with her friend and with some guys the night before.

So she's saying how wonderful she is, but then also talking about how she's hungover at work on speakerphone in public.

And then her mom laughed and laughed.

The colleagues in and around the workplace kept looking at one another.

Some even put earbuds and headphones on.

It appeared as though this was a regular thing with her.

She ended the conversation asking her mom how she should bring this up with a boss's boss.

I mean, this is a quote.

I mean, I always spell hamster with a P.

She has no right to criticize me.

She walked into the office kitchen for the rest of the call, so I don't know what happened next.

I always get five when I add up two plus two.

They've got no right to correct me on that.

Isn't that incredible?

Where does that end?

There's no place that ends.

Right.

When there's a lot of people.

There's no total chaos in society.

And we've talked about how many times have we talked about the idea that you have to be able to have a foundation in truth?

We all have to be able to agree on some common principles for a country to operate.

Yes.

And like the spelling of words should be right.

That should be one of them.

That's a no-brainer right there.

Yeah.

And like Glenn says all the time, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, those should be a no-brainer.

We should all agree on that.

Okay.

That's our foundation.

It's literally the foundation of this country.

And then facts such as, I don't know, spelling and math

kind of be in concrete.

They really should.

You can't just spell it that way because you always have been wrong spelling it that way, and you're going to keep doing it.

It is really incredible.

And of course, you're going to be able to do it.

So, what came of this?

Do you want to know what she's going to do?

So, she knows she kind of goes into a, you know, look, I don't know, maybe she has some learning disability and maybe like, you know, she's trying.

She's trying to find some way.

She's basically covering every basis in case she's being mean and doesn't realize she's being mean.

Because in our society today, that's another thing that's happening.

Yes.

Because a lot of times it happens.

Like, if you say, oh, man, that guy's got a crappy haircut.

He fell on his head when he was four years old, you bastard.

It's like, all right, I didn't know that.

Okay.

And, you know, okay, I'm sorry.

Like, all right, you know, I guess it's not his fault, right?

Like, but this is this, you know, of course, there is the outlying possibility that there's something.

But again, like, she's writing op-eds.

And, you know, you know, it doesn't seem like a normal arrangement, but she's allowing for the complete outlier of the possibility that she's missing something significant here.

She goes on to say, this is the writer of the story.

I think I was more perplexed by the insistence of wanting to spell something the way that she wanted to because she wanted to, ignoring the fact that there are rules and dictionaries and seeming offended that anyone would suggest the use of an outside resource as reference.

She goes on and say,

you know, obviously, if there's something I don't know about, you know, she needs help or whatever, I hope she gets it.

But it seemed like more like someone who had never been told no, or that she is anything other than 100% perfect and amazing and can do nothing wrong.

And it's going to be exhausting for her and anyone in her orbit.

I asked a colleague about it, and he relayed a story about the time he gave an early

20-something feedback on a writing assignment.

The young man quit the next day and had his parents call to tell him what a terrible boss he was for correcting work that didn't need correcting.

I worry about how kids are being raised sometimes.

I really do.

That's how

she wraps it up.

How are they going to get along in the workplace?

This is the problem.

You know, parents like that have allowed that behavior the whole time.

They haven't challenged them.

They haven't corrected them.

And everything they've done is right.

So where do you go with that?

In the workplace.

Yeah.

And you see this, like there are funny examples of it.

Like, I mean, this is an extreme example, I assume.

I mean,

I will say we work around people in their 20s and they don't seem that way.

Right.

So it's it's certainly not widespread.

However,

I mean, it may be widespread, but at least people who come work at the Blaze aren't like that.

I guess that's the only statement I can actually make on that particular topic.

People who are, you know, might be leaning conservative, maybe have a different profile.

But it is a situation where,

you know, it's the American Idol effect, right?

They start that first episode and all these people come in that can't sing at all.

And they've been telling their whole life how good they are.

Yeah, and they have no idea that they can't function in this world that they think they can function in.

They think they're great, and Simon Cowell is just mean.

Simon Cowell is just telling you the truth.

And at some point, you have to believe that

people in this generation that have been raised this way bump their heads really hard into a wall called reality.

The scary part is not that, though, to me.

The scary part is at some point, that generation is now the boss.

We're only, what, 20 years away from that?

And when that generation is the boss and those people who think that way, if they're not, if they don't have a change of thinking by then, they're running the country.

What the hell happens then?

It's over.

It's over at that point.

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