Ep 46 | Justice Democrats: AOC is Only the Beginning | Christopher Kohls (“Mr. Reagan”) | The Glenn Beck Podcast

So, a few months ago, I saw this video on YouTube about Alexandria Casio-Cortez.

And

I remember watching it and stopping and thinking, This cannot be right.

It took everybody by surprise.

It was very well researched.

We went and followed up and did our own research to make sure that it was right before I started talking about it.

It was very professional, a little bit nutty at first, because it's a conspiracy theory.

But it was a conspiracy theory about a 29-year-old bartender randomly becoming a socialist hero in the U.S.

Congress.

That's crazy.

According to the video, AOC's rise to stardom was no accident because AOC had been primed for the role.

She had been coached on every single policy point that she makes.

The real surprise was that this huge story came out of nowhere and went viral instantly.

It was not the work of reporters from the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Fox News, New York Times.

There was no news organization behind it.

The claims in the video hadn't appeared anywhere in the mainstream media.

They hadn't even been discussed by conservative media.

When I watched it, I thought this is either really ballsy as a lie, or it's true.

It was from

anonymous YouTube person who broke a massive news story.

Nobody in the media seemed to even be aware of the story.

Not only that,

this is a story that has impact on our culture.

This would not have been possible 10 years ago, some guy who you've never heard of breaking a story this big.

I don't know if it could have happened five years ago.

Well, I was immediately enthralled.

The video seemed like just one more sign that the mainstream media is fully collapsing.

Naturally, we wanted to know more about the disruptive person behind the video.

But what we found were a bunch of videos similar to the AOC video on a YouTube account that has only been active for a year, and a guy called Mr.

Reagan on YouTube and Twitter.

The name Mr.

Reagan, an homage to Ronald Reagan, the great communicator.

His mission statement is a quote from Ronald Reagan.

It's, quote, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so, end quote.

In the culture war, Mr.

Reagan is railing against mainstream media, socialism, and identity politics, and he is using facts to back it up.

He's doing it a new way.

He eschews all frill, placing his unabashedly conservative stance at the center of his videos, which is a dangerous thing to do lately, especially for him.

He lives in Los Angeles and he's on YouTube.

He can reach a million people with a rant that he filmed on his phone.

It's not easy.

He's been shadow banned, blocked, reported, caught in algorithms, you name it, but he's still going.

Without a doubt, he knows his politics.

which only adds to the intrigue of this disruptive and mysterious kind of guy.

The more of his videos I watched, the more I wondered, who is he?

Does he really live in LA?

Is he an open conservative?

How does he survive, if so?

Those are the surface questions.

I had to do more digging than I expected, but his real name is Christopher Coles.

He's a journalist and a fiction writer.

He has two volumes of short stories, which are quite brilliant, Straight White Christian Male Volume 1 and Straight White Christian Male Volume 2.

But there's not a lot of information beyond that.

So I decided to fly him into our studios in Dallas.

I figured the best way to really get some answers was to have him come here so we could talk face to face on this podcast.

So my guest today is the unknown Christopher Coles, the man who is the very well-known Mr.

Reagan, who has made it his mission to fight the radical left using humor and facts, and who may very well help take down the mainstream media in the process.

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So, should I call you Chris or Mr.

Reagan?

Chris is fine.

Okay, all right.

I assume Mr.

Reagan comes from your love of Ronald Reagan.

Absolutely right.

Yeah.

What was it that you loved about him?

Well, there were a lot of things.

I mean, primarily in the 80s when I was growing up and Reagan was president, there was a sense that Christianity was important.

You know, morality was important.

Ethics were important.

And I had that in my family.

And Ronald Reagan actually reminded me a lot of my grandfather at the time.

I saw Reagan and I saw somebody very much like, you know, my own family.

And that stuck with me my whole life.

And he's obviously an icon of conservatism.

So when I decided to do a channel,

I didn't want to use my real name.

I mean, who am I?

You know, I was nobody.

But Mr.

Reagan, that's a name

that people would instantly know.

So to me, it was more of a branding thing.

It was very easy to do.

You know, it's strange because I was thinking about, I don't really know much about you.

You're a little cagey on,

but I don't know anything really about you.

And that, you know, that used to be the norm for people who were journalists.

They, you know, Peter Jennings.

I knew he was a Canadian.

I think that's about it.

Right.

Walter Cronkite, we didn't know anything about it.

The guy was a communist.

You know, at the end, we're like, whoa, wait a minute.

But now you kind of want to know who people are.

So I know you live in Los Angeles.

How did that happen?

And how is that working out for you?

Well, you know, I'll tell you what.

Growing up, I was a creative type.

You know how Jordan Peterson says that he's kind of like a liberal type person, like a leftist kind of.

But really, he's conservative.

He's a rational person.

You know, he sees the world and he accepts the reality that he lives in.

And I'm exactly the same way.

I think I have a very creative, what would kind of traditionally be considered like a more of a leftist brain.

I think that's partially what gives me my perspective on politics.

I know the failures of that mindset because I'm a creative person myself.

I invent worlds.

I love writing stories.

I love writing fictions.

And so for me, growing up, I thought, I want to get into the film industry.

I want to be a writer.

I used to watch The Twilight Zone, and I thought when I was 13, I saw my first episode of The Twilight Zone.

There was one in particular called

Time Enough at Last.

Do you know this episode?

It was the one with

the first Meredith.

And my mind was blown.

And I said,

if I could write as well as this, I would be better than any writer living today.

And so I was hooked at that point.

You know, that point on, I was a writer in my mind.

So I moved to Hollywood for those reasons.

didn't have the connections.

Pretty much just a perpetual failure for many, many years.

And then one day I thought, you know, let me do what they're doing on YouTube.

Let me talk a little bit about the stuff that I believe in from my perspective.

Because when you have a creative mind and you're not really, you don't have that conservative, logical brain, you can see why a romantic brain.

would would fail in creating policy.

Because there's these temptations to strive for a utopia that can't exist.

I strive, you know, I have that.

I have that temptation, but I fight it and I recognize the frailty of that.

Like it will only lead to destruction.

I mean, you can see what happened in Venezuela and USSR, you know, in China, you know, just devastating tragedies.

What's funny is it's usually the artists that drive a society in that direction.

And then they're the first to be killed off.

Yeah, that's right.

They're the ones who are writing the poetry of woe is man

that actually pulls you back out of it.

And they don't ever seem to learn the lesson.

No,

I don't, I mean, artists are necessary,

but they are very powerful.

They're much more powerful than people think.

I don't think people understand that.

Because we don't spend the time because I think I have an artist's brain as well.

I was getting to that.

I think you're kind of in there with me.

Yeah, yeah.

And

so I do see things differently, and I can relate on how people can see things that way.

But people don't understand

in a theater, I want all of the lefties on stage because they're probably pretty good at doing a show.

That's right.

But I want everyone who's a conservative running the box office.

And if I don't have that, if I have the lefties in the box office and the conservatives on stage, it's a disaster.

Yeah.

It's a disaster.

And

we need each other.

Yeah, we do.

We do.

Yeah, and

it's a perfect analogy.

It's a really beautiful analogy for, you know, what you're talking about, a theater, right?

And the producer needs to be somebody with that sort of almost like a banker's mentality,

right?

Sort of divorced from emotion.

What I would call

dispassionate.

I feel like politics needs to be dispassionate because this is from a storyteller's point of view, but politics is all about ethical dilemmas.

Do I

let these hundred people die or do I fix the situation so only 13 people over here die instead?

That's a brutal situation, you know, but sometimes politicians have to make awful decisions like that.

And it may not be that drastic, but there's always some kind of compromise that needs to be made.

Some people are going to be hurt and some people are going to be benefited.

And those are cold, calculated moves that need to be made by a calculating brain.

Yeah, because otherwise you get into where we are on the border.

Exactly right.

The United States is a lifeboat.

It's a giant lifeboat.

And right now, Central and South America are going down.

They've hit an iceberg and they're going down and nobody wants to be there.

So they're coming here.

Well,

at some point, if you're in a lifeboat, you have to get away from the sea of people or everyone will die.

You know, and we don't care about the ship going down.

We care about the precious cargo of the people because as long as we have the people, we can rebuild ships.

That's right.

But you can't save everyone.

And

we're swamping our boats now, our lifeboats, and we're not going to be able to help anyone.

And what's crazy is you...

Those who actually are behind all this, they know that.

They know all that.

And that's not their goal to help everyone.

But those who are,

you know, saying, yeah, we should give health care to anybody who comes across our border,

they're just not thinking it through.

And we need to let everybody come across the border at the same time.

You know, that's something I've struggled with for some time.

Because I deal in

motivations and intentions.

That's what I'm always trying to figure out.

What's somebody's motivation and what's their intention, right?

Danislavsky.

Yeah, it's not an actor thing.

Tensions and obstacles?

No, no, I'm not Method.

I'm not Method.

No, but it's really just, that's just how you break down, like,

what are you really trying to do here?

You know,

what is the point of communism?

What is the point of capitalism?

Why do we have that institution?

Capitalism is so unfair.

You get these ridiculously rich people, and you get these ridiculously poor people with capitalism.

How is that fair?

But you realize, you know, if you really think about this,

the motivation is, you know, back in the feudal times, you had the rich, you had the poor, and there was no movement.

That was it.

If you were born poor, you were going to stay poor.

That was it.

There was no choice.

Now that we have capitalism, now that we have a market system, a poor person can become a rich person.

And not only that, but as the rich get richer, the poor get richer too.

And that was never true before.

Capitalism actually makes that possible.

So you're taking these poor wretches out of poverty and putting them into like the middle class or at least the lower middle class.

And that's a benefit.

Even if the rich get ridiculously richer, I don't care.

As long as we're keeping these people from starvation,

our problem today is that the poor people are too fat.

That's a good problem to have.

Fixing that's a lot better than fixing starving children.

You say as long as we keep these people from starving.

I would say as long as you keep the possibility

alive that even the starving can become whatever it is they choose to become.

As much opportunity as possible.

Right.

100% agree with me.

And you just don't get that with another system.

But haven't we, when you say capitalism, it tests horribly.

But

when you say free market, it tests like 70%

favorable.

It is funny how rhetoric changes people.

To me, it's all, you know,

but when people think of capitalism now, I think

they think that America is a free market.

We are less free as a market than they are in Sweden.

Absolutely right.

And the Swedes think we're nuts for what we're doing now.

Very state by state.

Yeah, yeah.

Texas is pretty good.

Texas is pretty good, yeah.

Texas is pretty good.

But overall, the free market is not free.

Bill Gates couldn't have started Microsoft.

I mean, that's according to Bill Gates now.

The problem that he said that

they have now is Apple was smart.

They put all of their people in Washington, D.C.

to lobby, and he didn't think that was necessary.

Well, that's not a free market.

No, no.

One thing I heard once was that if you're starting out a business, the only way to really do it, because it's so expensive because of the regulation, is to cheat.

You cheat until you get caught and then you stop cheating and you got to work within the system until you have enough money or they notice you.

It shouldn't be like that.

That's a problem.

It shouldn't be like that.

That's what people are trying to run away from.

The corruption in

Russia and whatnot.

100%.

You're 100%.

Mexico.

Mexico.

Yeah.

You're right.

And we are becoming those same kinds of people.

With the more regulation, you get more that way, for sure.

Because everybody finds a way around the regulation.

Or they're motivated to, anyway.

Because if you can't start a business without going through all these hoops and you can't go through the hoops, what do you do?

You have to cheat.

And I don't blame people for doing that.

I mean, I'm a, you know, I'm

hypothetically, I'm a rule follower.

But in reality, you know, you have to do what's right.

And that sometimes means breaking a couple of rules, you know.

Well, now let's talk about rules, and let's use Google and Facebook and YouTube as an example.

Now the rules are so everywhere and also so

nebulous.

I mean, I know Steven Crowder, he's with his attorneys and YouTube all all the time saying,

explain the rule.

And the rules keep changing, and they're never really fully explained.

So how does somebody like you survive

online?

Well, I did, you know, I got a manager, and so I can put in ads now.

Originally,

it was pretty good.

I would get ticked for, you know, demonetization on this video or that video or whatever.

Now that doesn't matter so much now that I have ads on my show.

So that kind of saved me because as soon as I did my AOC video that blew up, that you, by the way, I got to give you so much credit because you were really the only one that took that seriously.

There were a couple other people, but for the most part, everybody just dismissed this as politics as usual.

And I said, if this is politics as usual, then it's a way bigger story than just AOC.

And I don't think so.

I saw that story.

And first of all, I recognized the effort.

I mean, it was very reminiscent of what I have done in the past.

And so, I recognize when somebody has put in a lot of work, and I know the one thing that I always thought would happen was that honest people would look at it, and they could look past the showmanship of it, and they would say, gosh, that looks like a pretty good case.

Is that true?

And just do some simple checking.

Exactly.

With some simple checking, what you came up with and what you demonstrated was absolutely true.

What happened after that?

Well, so pretty much after that,

pretty much every video after that was demonetized.

It was simply, anytime I would post a video, demonetized.

Not only that, but YouTube had announced...

Prior to that, they had announced that if anything comes anywhere close to anything like a quote-unquote conspiracy theory, they were going to restrict the distribution.

That was their,

I don't know, right or their policy or something like that.

But they didn't really explain what borderline, they call it borderline.

That's what they call it, borderline.

Me talking about the caliphate in 2010 was called a conspiracy theory.

It happened.

Absolutely.

Pretty much anytime you mention George S.

on the YouTubes, it's considered.

So I looked into him because, you know, there were some ties there to Zach Exley and there were some ties from Zach Exley, which you were on to Zach Exley and like a million years ago.

I mean, you were on to that guy even like at the very beginning like way before any of us knew who the heck he was before I think even you knew who he was and but anyway

so I figured out there was a connection between AOC and George S.

And I was like wow that's kind of fascinating let me let me dive into the

the stuff about him because

You know, a lot of people like all this all conspiracy theories a lot of people are like no seriously he's got his fingers and everything so I thought okay okay let me really dive in it was astonishing to me astonishing how not only how right you were when you when you did that when you did that huge you know it was a huge thing yeah it was a huge thing but also just since then how much stuff that he's done i mean the guy he really wants to i mean it's like megalomania yeah and it's and it's so much of it is true i i i i can't even remember seeing an article that i thought

you know that wasn't backed up by evidence that it wasn't clearly true that this was happening.

And now they're saying, okay, yeah, with the district attorneys and stuff like that, you know, or yeah, district attorneys around the country is trying to do that now.

Attorney Generals.

Attorney Generals, right?

And it's,

it's weird.

It's like, why do you want, and that's what I was talking about, struggling with the motivation and intention.

Why would a billionaire care so much?

Why do they want to control the United States, especially when he's getting up there?

Yeah, but maybe he's, I mean, he is, he's quoted in his own book and on video saying it's fun.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, he is.

Fun.

You're right.

And yeah, some people get hurt with these little experiments we do, but that's what happens.

And he says he's got a messiah complex.

Yeah.

You know, he'll just say this stuff.

I know.

It's a really, it's an amazing thing that

you wonder other than

other than not wanting to be on the wrong side of him,

which is a scary place to be.

Absolutely right.

You wonder, is there no one?

Is there really no one that thinks this?

I mean, the left used to be against Star Chambers.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

And he's as close to you get as you can get to like, you know, the classic movie Star Chambers.

I was going to say, people should watch that movie.

Yeah, Star Chambers.

I mean, he is really as close as you can get to that

without going into fiction.

And nobody seems to care.

No.

It is a weird thing.

And it's not just him, though.

I mean, there's other leftist billionaires.

It's bizarre.

It's like,

my theory has been that if a person has an opportunity to change the world, he will convince himself that doing so is good

because it will put you in the history books.

And for whatever reason, especially if you're rich, especially if you're very, very rich, like billionaire level rich,

you want to be in the history books.

Because what else are you going to do?

You've accomplished all these other goals

in your life.

You don't really have anywhere else to go.

Oh, I actually put my name in history if I do this little thing and tweak the world in such a way that it makes a historic change.

Yeah, but that historic change might be the Holocaust.

That historic change might be something utterly devastating to people.

But in your mind, you're like, but I really want to get in the history books.

So I'm going to figure out a way why sending tons and tons of migrants into Europe is actually a good thing.

Devastating to people.

Devastating to people, but he can make a difference, quote unquote.

You know, so he's going to go ahead and do it.

Back in 2010, I talked about how the caliphate would be formed.

Middle East would be set on fire.

Caliphate would be formed.

And that would spread up into Europe through, you know,

immigrants.

That would destabilize, and then it would

come over here.

It's the same people

saying

that this was good then.

Europe, you have to take that.

This is good.

You have to take them.

Yeah.

That are saying now we have to take everybody who comes across our border.

And they're now in Europe apologizing to Europe, saying, oh, I'm sorry, that was really bad.

That destabilized things.

But they don't recognize it over here.

They're not honest brokers.

No.

I'm currently reading The Strange Death of Europe, great book.

And it is.

There is something to be said for the the preservation of culture.

And nobody likes to talk about that

when it pertains to European cultures because it's white people.

It's the people who were the colonists at one point.

So there's either the argument that we've got to pay for our sins, or there's the argument that

we're the bad guys and everybody else is the good guy, or there's the argument that we have all the wealth and so we need to be generous to help other people.

And that argument I actually, to some degree, agree with.

But have you seen the bubblegum or the bubblegum?

Yeah, I think it's bubblegum gumball.

The gumball video on YouTube?

I'll send this to you.

It's an amazing video.

There's this guy, he just has a bunch of gumballs, and he says, this is how many poor people there are in the world, like truly poor.

And it's an unbelievable, like just tons of gumballs.

He's like, this is how much, how many immigrants we take in every year.

It takes one gumball, puts it in this little

glass.

He says, this is how many illegals come in.

He takes another gumball, he puts it in the glass.

He's like, this is not helping anything.

It's like, every year, this is how many more poor people are born.

And he pours like a whole thing of gumballs.

He's like, You think we're helping the world out by you want to feel good about yourself by taking one gumball of immigrants into your country?

It's like, no, you got to help people out where they are.

We got to figure out systematic approaches to helping people throughout the world.

The immigration thing is just going to hurt us, and it's not going to help anybody.

I think,

but I think that's what the free market does.

That's what, that's, that's the best way to help people out is to teach them how to fish.

I mean, even if you've seen the Bono speech that he gave at the London School of Economics, here's a guy who's been given charity forever who finally comes out and goes, you know what?

None of this has worked.

I've been doing it forever.

None of this works.

The best thing we can do is strengthen capitalism, the free market.

Give them access to the free market and

help them help themselves.

You know, I saw that same video, and he just seems so sad.

He seems so defeated.

Your life's work, and you realize it was a waste.

Absolutely.

You know, in one way, it is a little depressing to see somebody who feels that way, that, like, you know, they've struggled so long and it hasn't worked.

And that's the sort of leftist idealism that I'm talking about.

You know, there is this idea that I can make a difference.

And, you know, you can potentially start a business or, you know, there's many, many ways to actually help within a system that is effective.

But these like kind of little,

you know,

idealistic ways to try to fix the world,

if they're not effective, you do have to abandon them.

And it is sad, especially for an artist, especially for somebody who's a dreamer who really wants to do those things.

But really, I mean, if you truly want to help people, you really have to focus on the things that work.

And the market works.

I mean, like you said, teaching people to fish works.

Right, because of the individual.

Yeah.

You know, we're losing sight of the individual.

So, you know, we've all worked at places where somebody has an idea, you might have had an idea, and then there's somebody always at the table who's like, that's not going to work.

That's not going to work.

And you're just like,

shut up.

It would work if we could all get on the same page.

Where the leftist goes wrong is eventually they remove that person from the table and anyone else that might be thinking that way.

And if they have to forcibly remove them, they will forcibly remove them because we are going to do this because it will work.

And the more it doesn't work, the more they can't be proven wrong.

It's got to be somebody else that doesn't believe in it that's screwing it all up.

Yeah.

You're 100% right.

I mean, this is why they're trying to silence all the voices on YouTube, on Twitter, any conservative voice.

I'm not as concerned as some people because

the main reason is because I think there's enough of us now who are aware of what's happening that I don't think that they can get away with it.

And I think they kind of know that.

Okay, you're laughing at me.

Yeah, God, I remember it.

I was young and naive.

Maybe I'm a little optimistic.

Okay, what do you think?

Let me just go to Justice Democrats.

Well, those guys are definitely like, you know, they have upped the game.

You're right.

Every step of the way, they do it under the cover of darkness

and they get worse and worse and worse.

And it's a conspiracy theory and nobody, everybody is told, oh, don't worry about it.

It's not that big of a deal.

Only when somebody is there to replace the Justice Democrats that are worse than the Justice Democrats will we hear and really accept what the Justice Democrats were doing.

Well, you're 100% right.

And

their plan is actually a relatively effective plan if they can pull it off.

So why don't you explain who they are and what

their plan is?

Because they just pulled off something.

They just got a district attorney elected.

That's

that's the craziest thing I've ever seen.

Let's hire the chief law enforcer to not enforce the law.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, the same thing's going on.

I mean, with what happened in Portland, I was looking into the chief of police up there, and they're like, we want to do community policing, which is essentially like, what, not arresting Antifa, like not doing your job.

Okay, let me get into brand new Congress and Justice Democrats.

So originally it was called Brand New Congress.

This is the brainchild of a guy named Zach Exley.

Zach Exley is a Soros minion.

And

this comes from a long line of people who had similar ideas.

But the idea was to completely replace Congress with socialists, really.

They call themselves progressives.

They're far-left Democrats who want redistribution and all this kind of nonsense.

I think we have, because

I'm pretty well read on the progressive movement, and I believe that we are now out of the progressive movement.

We are now in the socialist, straight-up socialism.

Progressives are

progressives are people like Joe Biden.

He looks like he's a dinosaur.

That era is over.

The progressives brought us to the doorstep of socialism, and now the socialists are like, good, sit down.

We'll take it from here.

Well, we should actually dive into the word socialism because to use one of your words, the great word, nebulous, socialism is now a nebulous term, which it never was historically.

I mean, socialism was essentially synonymous with communism, as a Marxist idea, right, of the redistribution of wealth in the communist mold.

Well, socialism is, I mean, I know the technical definition, well, it used to be, the step between capitalism and communism.

Communism, people think, oh, that's when the state gets really ugly and puts everybody in a gulag.

No, not according to Marx.

No, no, according to Marx, it's the ideal.

It's the utopia.

It's the utopia.

And then they say, oh, well, that wasn't really communism.

They're actually right.

According to Marx.

It's not that

it's a hypothetical communism.

It's the result of what happened.

Look, this is why communism doesn't work.

You tell everybody that they just got to work as hard as they can, and we're going to pay you all the same.

And a lot of people say, you know, if I don't...

If I don't have to work harder than this guy, like, why am I working so hard?

And then you go, okay, well, people are being less productive than we need them to because everything's run by the state.

And so then you have to have a class of enforcers.

And instantly you have two classes.

You have the oppressed class and you have the oppressor class.

And this creates an instantaneous authoritarian dictatorship because you have to control the masses.

You have to control them with violence.

It's the only way or force.

It's the only way to do it.

And so always communism will turn into that.

It will always turn into that.

It's against human nature.

It's completely.

Against human nature.

And we've tried it.

We've tried it for religious reasons.

The Mormons tried something like that.

They called it the United Order, I think.

The Pilgrims tried it.

I didn't know about the Pilgrims.

I didn't know about the Mormons.

Yeah, it was the United Order.

It's in history.

Yeah, United Order,

they were really struggling.

They said, put everything together, 100% tithe, and you just work.

And it fell apart that fast.

It is such a beautiful dream.

It is beautiful.

I love the dream.

I love the idea that people will motivate themselves to help out

their fellow man.

Right.

But people are so lazy and selfish.

That's exactly what happened.

They were like, well, you know, brother so-and-so's not doing it.

So, I mean, I'm not going to work all day and have him sit around and do it.

It's not right.

And the Mormons came to the conclusion, this is a great idea.

And when Jesus comes,

maybe he can convince everybody to be on board.

You know what?

Maybe that's right.

I mean, it is, I think it is the way Christ would rule, but nobody's Christ.

Everyone else needs a gun.

Right.

Exactly right.

Yeah.

And if you have a strong motivator, and maybe that motivator could be God himself, you know, if you have a strong motivator, then yeah, you'll get productive, you know, productivity out of people.

But the motivator is, in America, is you can better yourself.

Absolutely.

You can better your station.

You can better.

And one of the problems is, is we've been convinced that you can't better the nation.

Right.

I mean, sorry, your station.

You can't better yourself.

My My kids will not be better off than that.

Finally, we can't better the nation.

Yeah.

No, yeah.

Yeah, it's a, I don't know, because it's such a benevolent system

in terms of the distribution, because what we're really doing is

redistributing opportunity.

That's what capitalism is.

Communism is redistributing the fruits of everyone's labor.

But capitalism is redistributing opportunity because you want, you really want the best of the best.

So it's in everybody's best interest to educate everybody well, to have everybody at the top of the game.

So the best of the best is better than the best of the best last year.

And you can choose from, you know,

everybody who is amazing in America helps everybody else.

So it's in our best interest to make everybody amazing.

I'll try to get back to the...

Yeah, you have a tendency to go off on the

well, so the brand new Congress, the idea that they originally had was completely mental.

It was, let's replace all the what they would call establishment Democrats, the Joe Bidens.

Let's replace all of them with these far-left progressives or essentially socialists, AOCs.

They were saying, let's do a bunch of Elizabeth Warrens.

We want everybody in Congress to be Elizabeth Warren.

That was their idea.

But it wasn't just the establishment Democrats.

They were also going to, and this is completely nuts.

They were going to go after red states, red districts, Congress, because people don't know who their Congressman is.

People don't know who they're voting for for Congress.

A lot of people just hit the R.

You know, if they're a Republican, they just hit the R.

So

they were,

their idea was, let's go into these areas in which there's very, very little voter turnout because everybody just expects Republicans going to be elected.

And let's bring a progressive in there to campaign as Republican in their primary.

And let's go to all the progressives in the area kind of quietly and tell them all, oh, vote for this guy, because even though he's Republican, he's really with us.

He's really a progressive.

And they'd get them on the ballot as a Republican, right?

They'd win their primary because nobody votes in that region anyway.

And then everybody

who needed to vote

in the

general would just tick the box for Republican, right?

They wouldn't even think about it because that would be the Republican nominee, right?

This progressive, this socialist.

And that's how they're going to sneak socialists in

into Congress as Republicans.

That's what they're, I mean, it's completely mental.

And do we know that they're not doing that?

No, I think that they still plan to do this.

I think the only guard we have against this kind of tomfoolery is telling people about it.

I think if people know what's going on, they'll know what to look for, and especially reporters and people who look into this stuff, hopefully people will get the word out of it.

This kind of goes to

almost the, what was the saying from Hitler, that the more outrageous the lie, the more likely people are to believe it.

Where this is the more

outrageous the act

yeah you know you could you can pull off the outrageous because people will go oh come on that's ridiculous this is this is why people think Soros is a conspiracy theory

a lot of these big the big lie right this is these big lies are they work because people just dismiss them as it's crazy fiction yeah yeah he's got to be making this up you're not going to get rid of the free market system in America well if everybody thinks that and they don't do anything to protect it we will yeah we will.

Okay, so Justice Democrats.

They changed their name.

Why do they change their name, do you know?

Yeah, because they started work with

Jank Uger of the Young Turks.

It was a real piece of work, that guy.

I mean, he's actually not quite as crazy as a lot of people, but he's very bombastic.

You know, and he's got a loud voice, and he's got a big channel on YouTube, The Young Turks.

He's got a very large pocketbook for lefties.

Yeah, so

he got in with Zach Exley and Sykat Chakrabarty and that whole team that were doing the brand new Congress thing.

And he

Jank pitched it to the young Turks audience as Justice Democrat.

So he had either he had a similar idea or he took that idea and or something happened where they had a parallel idea and

the brand new Congress guy said, okay, well, he's got this huge audience.

So we're just going to call it whatever the heck he wants to call it.

He wants to call it Justice Democrats?

Fine.

We'll call it Justice Democrat.

So they changed the name, I think, for Jenks.

And that's why originally, in my original video, I said Jenk was the mastermind because he sort of pitched it that way.

Like it was his idea.

It is only until I researched further I realized, no, he's just a, he was sort of being used as the LPC.

Yeah, front man,

the propaganda wing of the, of the brand new Congress, Justice Democrats Party, which I, they really should be their own political party because they're really their own crazy thing with the Green New Deal and paying people who don't want to work.

Crazy.

It's It's legit mental.

The third party doesn't work, especially in a Democratic Party because of the superdelegates and everything else.

You'll die on the vine.

I don't know why they do that over there, by the way.

The super delegate thing because of Mr.

Reagan.

Do you not know that?

That story?

No, I don't know why they do that.

I just know it's a problem for them every single election.

Yeah.

Well, they saw Reagan take over the Republican Party

and it becomes so radical.

And here's this guy who was so radical, took over the Democratic or Republican Party and changed the course of the Republican Party.

And they did not want that to happen.

So back in the 80s, they said,

how do we safeguard a radical from coming in and changing us?

So they did the super delegates.

So that kept people like Bernie Sanders out, et cetera.

So people don't get as much of a voice as the DNC.

Correct.

Oh, gosh, these guys.

I mean, it's just a PR nightmare for them.

They really need to fix that.

People want to believe that they have a voice, even if.

I think on the left, it's tough to be a leftist, I think, today.

Because they don't distinguish.

This is something that I keep talking about on my channel.

On the right, you know,

white supremacists and KKK people, they're all accused of being right-wing.

I don't consider them right-wing.

They're not.

I consider them their own delusional thing.

They're all national socialists.

Exactly.

Exactly.

That's not right.

Identity

politicians.

Yeah.

But on the left,

they don't distinguish themselves.

On the right, we say, that's not us.

We distance ourselves.

We're like, those guys are toxic.

We don't have anything to do with them.

On the left, they don't do that.

They don't say, oh, no, no, no.

Antifa doesn't speak for me.

They say they justify what they're doing.

They'll say, well, I don't believe in violence, but, you know, it actually kind of makes sense because they're not so bad.

They think the same thing I do.

It's like, what are you doing?

You have to distinguish yourself from your crazies the same thing that uh those in germany uh

when they made excuses for the brown shirts yeah you know yes but there's they just want order and yes they get out of hand from time to time and they think they can control it and they will never control it you can't put the genie back in the bottle yeah okay so go back to so so uh

the Justice Democrats get their new name, and what do they do?

Okay, so they do this casting call.

They decide that, okay, we're going to try to put...

Jenk convinced them not to do the Republican thing, right?

Not to go into these smaller districts.

And

he's like, let's just focus on the establishment Dems.

We want to get those guys out because he really hates the establishment Dems, which is something I kind of understand because he thinks that they're kind of bought and paid for by Wall Street and corporations and this kind of stuff.

They all are.

Exactly.

I shouldn't say they all are.

Most of them are.

A lot of people

on both sides.

Yeah, on both sides.

And I'll agree with Jenk on that.

So in that sense, he's, you know, that's why I say he's like not the worst of them, right?

You know, he's got a legit beef, you know.

So, okay, so he wants to get the establishment out.

He wants to get these progressives in, which I don't think is any better, but he thinks they're better.

So he convinces them just to go after the Democrats.

And that's exactly what they do.

And they get just a, they don't get as many as they wanted, but they get a ton of nominees for

Congress.

It was 2016, right?

And

AOC was one of their people.

And they got a few in.

I don't remember all their names off the top of my head because it's been a while since I did that stuff.

But they got a few of the people in and they sponsored, they said, okay, we're kind of aligned with some people who are already in Congress, stuff like that.

But AOC was really their home run.

I mean, that was the.

New evidence has surfaced to suggest that AOC wasn't actually

nominated in the same way everybody else was.

Because one guy that's been investigating this stuff for a long time suspects that she knew Zach Xley from before the nominating process happened.

So she did go through the process the same as everybody else, but it was like a show to make it look like everything was fair when in reality they'd kind of hand-picked her beforehand and said,

you're golden.

But the idea was that they would bring in people in a nominating process and then they would go over their resume and hire them in the same way that you would hire an actress, right?

And the idea was that they write the script and these congressmen read the script, right?

And they talk about this in their video.

They say, well, you didn't have any interest in running for office before us, right?

And she's like, no.

And they say, you know, this is a group first movement, right?

So

this has instructed all of your, everything that you've said and done since you've been elected.

It's been a group first, right?

You've been following the, and she's like, absolutely.

And they're just admitting to it in the video.

I mean, it's, it's, it's

when you see the video, it's stunning.

It's amazing how transparent some of these people are.

I don't think they're doing anything wrong.

I remember when we exposed the Tides Foundation, and one of the guys who was behind the Tides Foundation for the Obamacare, he said, Some people say this is a Trojan horse.

I know this from memory because I played that video so many times on television.

Some people say this is a Trojan horse.

It's not a Trojan horse.

It's right there.

I'm showing it to you.

We will have single-payer health care.

And that's a big defense of the Justice Democrats and brand new Congress and the young Turks.

They'll say, I don't know why you think this is some kind of evil conspiracy.

This is on the table.

We're showing it to you.

We're broadcasting it.

We want everybody to know what we're doing.

But once you say it, what happened to you?

I know.

Anything close to a conspiracy.

How could it be a conspiracy?

Here it is.

They're saying it.

I know, and Snopes got on me and BuzzFeed got on me at fact checkers,

quote unquote, fact checkers.

and uh they're like oh you know there's there's there's several reasons why this is false one reason that it's false is that

you know everybody's doing it it's like no not everybody is doing this another reason it's it's not true is because it's not a secret they've you know they've talked about this it's like okay you can murder somebody in secret or you can murder somebody in public you still murder somebody it's still bad and i i don't remember what the last point i was gonna make is but yeah they're trying to fact check they also like to fact check the idea idea that I said she was an actress, right?

As if she has like a SAG membership.

Yeah.

Right.

And I, I, these guys wrote me and I wrote them back and I said, look, you know,

that was a metaphor.

You know, I was saying that as a way to explain what she was doing.

You know, she was a casting call.

It wasn't a casting call, but it.

That's a good way to illustrate it.

You were in Hollywood.

You were clear in that video.

You were using a metaphor.

That's a good idea.

Yeah.

And like,

why would you fact-check that?

I heard that Snopes actually fact-check a couple of,

oh, what is it?

The Babylon B articles.

Oh, that's so funny.

So funny.

I love the Babylon B.

They're like, what are you fact-checking parodies and satire?

And it's like, what are you doing?

These guys have no credibility.

They're just...

Again, they're like a propaganda thing for leftists.

But so why are they so effective?

Because they did it with AOC, and they just talk a little bit about, I'm assuming you know, the new district attorney

from the same district from AOC.

Yeah, no, I actually haven't read about it.

This is crazy.

But I, you know, obviously I saw it in the news, but I didn't actually do my research.

Same exact story.

She's going to be the district attorney.

One of the tweets.

One of the tweets that I saw her

make right after the election was: The reason why we won is because of our very dedicated door knockers and

workers.

They were sex workers, ex-cons,

and illegal immigrants

in her tweet.

Illegal immigrants, ex-cons, and sex workers.

This is the district attorney.

Yeah, that's who we want

prosecuting the criminals of New York City.

And this was all done and organized by the same Justice Department.

They have such a a bizarre

five-term sitting district attorney, a Democrat.

A Democrat.

They're not coming.

There's no one in the press that is talking about the civil war in the Democratic Party.

Oh, yeah.

It makes the Tea Party look like nonsense.

Because when we did the Tea Party,

We thought we were making progress.

We weren't making any progress.

Those guys are going to do whatever the hell they want.

We made

no real progress lasting, in my opinion.

And that's why Donald Trump is there because everybody was pissed.

Okay, really?

You want to play that game?

Okay, meet our junkyard dog.

That's exactly right.

That's exactly right.

These guys are actually making an impact.

I was talking to Joe Lieberman, and he said, I said, where are the Democrats who don't believe that we should abandon the free market?

He said, Glenn, they're all afraid to say anything.

They're terrified of those guys.

There is a war and

the rational left, if you can even call them that, they're losing the war.

They're losing the war because the radical left, the socialists, their voice is so loud.

And what they're saying is interesting to people because it's stuff that people haven't heard really.

At least they haven't heard it in a way that sounds good.

I mean, it was always portrayed, I think, accurately as a devastating

system.

to implement government-wise.

But these guys are presenting it as if, no, it's going to be good because it's going to help save Miami from going underwater and

all these ridiculous.

So what is it do you think they actually believe?

You know,

that's an excellent question.

I think that it has, okay, I'll tell you what I think.

I think that there is a fundamental delusion within the left, and I don't even think it's just the progressive radical left.

I think it's like even if like a hair left even the moderate left oftentimes accepts this which is that there are good guys and there are bad guys and they want to be one of the good guys they want to be a white knight they want to stand you know tall and say i'm a good guy and the good guys are

well okay let's go with the bad guys first the bad guys are men the bad guys are the white colonialists of of Europe, you know, you know, that colonized America and the other places.

Christians, traditional Christianity is the enemy, right?

Because Christians, you know, persecuted gays or something, right?

So, and the good guys are LGBT, ethnic minorities, immigrants, Muslims.

These are the good guys.

So, in their mind,

it's almost like they can't fathom that some Muslims might be bad, some black people might be bad, some white people might be good, some men might be good.

They just have this line that they draw and they say, these are the good guys, and these are the bad guys.

Let us design a society that punishes the bad guys and that elevates the good guys.

And their whole system functions on that delusion.

And so that's why I always say

the left will always

be wrong.

They will always fail in attempting to design a society that works because they've got these fundamental delusions about who's good and who's bad.

And you've got to look at people as individuals.

Some people are good and some people are bad in every group.

You say they always fail, but they don't always fail.

Sometimes it takes 70 years, sometimes it takes 20 years.

Well, right.

No, they don't always fail immediately.

They don't always fail.

And I'm not convinced these guys are going to fail.

No.

Well, they are a danger.

And you make a really good point.

That's something I didn't think of.

Is working off the template of Justice Democrats and brand new Congress, another group could form that could be even more effective.

And that is actually kind of terrifying if you had another outside group come in because it's a powerful idea to be part of a group.

And

the really, to me,

and a winning group.

And the really annoying thing is that the people who voted for AOC didn't know that she was just parroting

some writer's script.

And when you say that,

I saw your video.

And what was shocking, and it explained her, it totally explained her

how she was saying exactly what Justice Democrats were saying four years before.

She obviously got the script, which to me totally explains when, how do you feel about Israel?

Well, Israel is a bad place.

They're the oppressor.

Well, can you tell me more about that?

Well,

she wasn't qualified.

She wasn't qualified.

Right.

And it shows that she's learning things.

She's repeating and regurgitating something that she doesn't believe, that she's been told or taught or whatever.

And there's no depth there.

Yeah.

No, there's no.

She doesn't fully.

She is so emblematic of so many leftists that I've met throughout my life, either back home in Oregon where I grew up or in Los Angeles where I live now, who don't really know anything about politics, but they heard a couple of talking points on MSNBC or CNN.

They heard Don Lemon talking or Rachel Maddow, they heard some kind of talking point and they were like, yeah, yeah, the Israelis are so mean to those Palestinians.

Right, right.

Like, you know, so I'm for the Palestinians because they're the underdog, you know, that they work on an emotional level.

They'll say, these are the underdogs, these are the oppressed, and these are their oppressors.

These are the bad guys.

And if you want to be good, you'll join us in defending these oppressed, these poor oppressed people.

And the conservative will go, but didn't they just send a bunch of missiles against their so-called oppressors?

And they'll be like, Yeah, but I mean, come on, those are just like little missiles.

Yeah, right.

Right.

And then, you know, what would you do?

Such a good defense system that it doesn't even really matter.

That's right.

It's like, what are you talking about?

They're literally trying to murder these people.

And they're stating it.

Yeah, then they're stating it openly.

Yeah.

And if they find somebody on their own, sort of like, you know, a lost lamb,

rape and murder and awful stuff happens.

And it's just, it's a pretty nasty situation over there.

And it's a nuanced situation, granted.

There is,

like I said, there's good and bad people on both sides in every group.

What do you make of

the relationship?

Have you looked into the relationship of

Elon Omar and

care and the Muslim

infiltration of this radical revolutionary wing of the Democratic Party yet?

No, I haven't gone into the Muslim thing.

A lot of people really wanted me to, because it's very important to a lot of people.

But

that's a tricky one.

I mean, that one takes a lot of research.

Again, you really have to

really get into it.

I have some Muslim friends, really good people,

really solid people that are,

you know, family people that are trying to make their way and do the right thing.

And the left, I think, does have a valid concern that people will become

hateful of anyone who is Muslim.

True, if we don't educate people on the difference between somebody who follows Islam and somebody who is an Islamist.

Right.

If you're an Islamist, you believe that

the caliphate must be executed, that there is no law outside of the Quran.

And those are dangerous people.

And they are oppressing.

I mean, the first ones they're going to kill are

the people who follow Islam but are not Islamists.

So they're on the front line.

And I think

people that are good Muslims understand that.

And we're betraying them.

And, you know, care is

a front for Hezbollah.

And,

you know, how does a woman,

if you are with

care

and Hezbollah,

how do you get away with being for women's rights

and all of these things, gay rights?

How are you for those things?

And unless

your Hamas front group is suddenly just a really good, you know, non-Koran-following group that doesn't want death to Israel, et cetera, et cetera.

Well, have you heard of it?

There's this idea in Islam, I forget what it's called, I think it's Takir or something like that.

It's this idea that you,

and it's interpreted in different ways by different Muslims, but

one interpretation is: yeah, you just pretend that you believe the things that your host country believes.

If you are

standing with the Quran and standing with what

the Quran

actually says according to them, that you can lie

to further these goals and you're perfectly cool.

And that is such an awful thing to have in your culture because how can anyone trust anyone from your culture?

That's part of it.

That's the same with us though.

I suppose that's true.

I suppose anybody can lie.

Anybody can lie.

I mean, that's not in our scriptures, but

that's the problem.

It's in our culture.

You're right.

That's true.

I mean, but like I said, there are good and bad people in every group.

But

written into their actual laws is this.

And again, not everybody interprets it that way.

But

read my book.

It is about Islam.

There is clearly an Islam that is a reformist movement that a lot of people, but all the people in that group are afraid of the Islamists.

100%.

And the Islamists are the danger.

At the end of the day, I think that

the good Muslims need to stand up against the Islamists.

Why would they?

I'll tell you why.

Because

it's going to always be hard for them everywhere they go if everybody's afraid that they might be a terrorist.

Right.

So they know that.

But I have good friends

who are Muslim.

Judy, Zudi Jasser, who is is an amazing guy,

he stands firmly against it.

His life is hell.

I know, I know it.

Because the bad guy

will shut you down.

Yeah, but I think that

in a large enough group, if it was a movement that happened en masse, right, that it would not be possible to.

But who's going to, again,

I'm just trying to put myself in the mindset.

I'm totally sympathetic as well.

I mean, I am of an American Muslim who they've gone to Congress and they've begged, they've cried, please listen to us.

These people are coming over.

They're in our communities and you're turning a blind eye.

And the media, they come out, they're hate.

Well, you're getting to really the crux of the issue, I think, which is that anytime the left

pretends that something doesn't exist.

Like to me, if something's real, if there's a real problem that legitimately exists in the world, to pretend that that problem doesn't exist does not make you a good person.

But the left thinks that it does.

The left thinks that every racial problem that exists doesn't, no, that doesn't exist because I'm not a racist.

It's like, no, that doesn't make you not a racist to pretend that there is not problems in the black community.

It does not make you not an Islamophobe because you're pretending that there is no such thing as Sharia law or, you know, radical Islam or any of this stuff.

They just pretend that it doesn't exist so that they can pretend that there are good people and they love everybody and blah blah blah blah blah.

It's like, look, guys, not tackling a problem doesn't make you a good person.

It just makes you a coward, really.

But that's what the left wants to do.

They want to pretend that they're a good person.

They think that pretending these problems don't exist makes them good.

The fact that you think that there's problems in the black community, that makes you an evil person.

Correct.

It's like so stupid.

You're never going to solve a problem that way.

Ever.

Never.

We would never.

And that's really what I fight against on my channel.

It's like just the instant,

like without hesitation, you're a racist, you're a homophobe, you're an Islamophobe because you're willing to accept that one of these groups may have an issue.

So it's, you know, I thought the Showtime is running this

series on Roger Ailes and Fox.

Yeah,

there's actually two.

There's the Showtime one, and then there's a feature film coming out, which I am in.

Are you really?

I have a line.

It's a very short line, but I have a line.

You play.

I play, I'm in O'Reilly's booth.

I'm in O'Reilly's booth, and I, what is my line?

It's

oh, Drudge, Drudge took down the report or something.

I yell, Drudge took down the report, and everybody runs the computers.

It's great fun, man.

I was with Marga Robbie.

We had a great time.

She's awesome.

So they're doing this

series, and I haven't watched it yet,

but I will.

And

as I was watching the trailer, I thought,

this is true.

You know, the things that I've seen in a trailer and the sexual things that were going on, I absolutely believe.

Didn't see it myself, but I absolutely believe.

The culture there was very, very toxic.

With that being said,

Hollywood is a much bigger expert on Harvey Weinstein.

And so, why isn't there a movie

or a series or a documentary on Weinstein?

They don't want to open that door, I think, because they're still afraid.

Nobody in their community wants to hear it because so many people were involved in it.

And so you're not, they never will take on their own community first.

Take the beam out of your own eye first.

I love that scripture.

Yeah, I love that scripture.

You know, I'll tell you what, I do think that there is,

there are enough conservatives in Hollywood that are secret conservatives that we're getting to a tipping point where i do think that they're gonna come out of the closet you know as they did and then they kind of went back in the closet well you're talking specifically about the harvey weinstein situation i mean no no no i mean no no no i mean um friends of abe well right well then no no there's there's still groups trust me i'm there oh yeah yeah i'm good i'm i'm i'm i'm there on the front lines they they you know they have to meet in secret we actually had somebody um

I won't say who come to speak at one of our events the other day, and there was like

government helicopters

making sure that everything was

copacetic.

Anyway, yeah, so yeah, it's an interesting thing to be out there in Hollywood.

But I do think that there is going to be...

You remember Miramax in the 90s started to do independent films, but it was obviously distributed by Miramax, and a lot of them had big budgets.

That was sort of like, oh, look, we're doing our own kind of interesting thing over here because there's a market for this.

In the 90s, they like this ultra-violent sex stuff.

I think that there may be a pocket for that in Hollywood now for conservatism.

I think that somebody, a smart producer, will figure out, okay, there is a market to be, you know, there's money to be made here, like a lot of money, a lot of money.

If they were to make feature films that were marketed to conservatives, that had conservative values, that hired writers like, you know, conservative writers.

I think that there's money to be made there.

So, the only one that I can

do this is Jason Blum.

But Jason needs to, I mean, with his theory

with

horror films, was that Blum House?

Yeah.

And his theory with horror films, which is where he started, was he was watching the studio system, and people who are not fans of horror movies were making them.

And so they weren't made for fans of horror movies.

And so he said, you know what, I'm going to take the horror movie business out here, and I'm going to make sure that the only people who are making it are the fans of horror movies.

And look at how well his-correct.

And he's doing that with, I mean, in fact, the Fox movie is made by Blumhouse as well.

But what he's doing is,

and if he does this.

If he does this right without necessarily going to the people who are making church films,

it will work.

Hollywood does

these God films or conservative films, and they're just ridiculous.

They're made by leftists.

Correct.

They don't know how, you know, I could never blend in at a Barbara Streisand cocktail party

and go and just pull that off.

I couldn't do it.

That's what they're trying to do.

If they find the good directors that know how to make

a good movie, not a message movie, a good movie that

doesn't assault me all the time.

A lot of them.

Did you see Captain Marvel?

Yeah.

I watched that specifically to see what the, oh man,

unbelievable, just unbelievable.

In your face, messaging from beginning to end.

I walked out of that thinking,

my Marvel magic, you know, my honeymoon period with Marvel is over.

It was such a, it was just, it was hard to watch, really, because it.

And you know the crazy thing is

on Marvel movies, what was the one where they had the ships up and they were monitoring everybody and they were going to, you know, start just to, you know, laser all of the people that disagreed.

Remember, it was

one of all of the.

Does anybody know on the crew?

What was it?

Winter Soldier?

Winter Soldier, yeah, okay.

That was a conservative movie with conservative principles.

But I don't think any liberal knows.

I watched movies all the time, and I'm like, did they

drop the gear in their brain when they were reading this?

Yes,

but they never seem to get it.

Well, occasionally, they'll throw us a couple of crumbs.

You know, there was this moment in, which was, I think it was the first Avengers movie, where

Captain America is going to jump off of this flying airplane helicopter thing and he's going to go fight Thor and somebody said

Somebody goes hey hey watch it you know you don't want to get in involved with this like these guys are practically gods and he goes there's only one god ma'am and he doesn't dress like that and he jumps out of the thing I was like yeah it's a great line it's a great line and whoever wrote that line either has a little conservative in him or they just got it you know they got that okay this is gonna be a little this is a little crumb for the conservative little religious Americans out there who want to see this and like you know good for them.

You know, they're not, they don't care about that stuff anyway, but they know that we like it.

Okay.

But, you know, to me, getting excited about that stupid line, you know, which is, you know, it's a cool line, but it's just a little line in a movie.

That's such a good indication to me, such a strong indication that if you just made a movie that was a good movie that was tailored to conservatives.

Personally, I think most

of the most of the Marvel movies, because they were so Stan Lee,

do have that American underpinnings.

And I think that's one of the reasons why they are so successful.

Not all of them, but a lot of them have those

underpinnings.

Shoot, I lost my train of thought.

I don't remember.

The Star Wars movies are like, to me, a disaster.

It's like the complete opposite of Marvel.

You're 100% right in that, you know, and I think one of the things with the Marvel movies, they're not afraid to have a straight white guy be the leader, you know, or the hero or something like that.

Every other movie that is ever made today, if you're a straight white guy, you're either a doofus or you're the villain.

Those are your two options, really, for straight white guys.

The Marvel movies are the only sort of bastion left, you know, in Hollywood for...

like an old-fashioned action movie or an old-fashioned adventure movie where it's amazing to me that we have destroyed all of our heroes yeah and yet we're we're making these heroes up And they generally reflect the principles of the old America.

And

they don't see that.

They don't get that.

They're just doing it for money.

They're so misreading.

Can I change subjects?

Please.

Let's talk about the news of the day-ish.

Let's talk about,

first of all, what's your take on Biden and

all of the candidates?

Let's go through them.

Yeah, yeah.

I've done specials on all of them.

There's a lot.

Let's go through them.

Easier said than done.

I know, I know.

Just take the top few.

My favorite is Tulsi Gabbard.

She was my favorite from before.

I don't think that she brought up the things that I liked in the debates, but I think that was smart because she's not trying to get my vote.

She's trying to get the Democrats' vote.

So it was good that she sort of pandered a little bit and said some lefty stuff.

Biden,

I really didn't expect him to go down quite as hard as he did

with Kamala Harris.

I remember watching that kind of confused because I, because I'll be honest, I didn't know about this busing thing.

That happened before I was born, and it wasn't something that's like really in the history books because it was sort of like

an add-on to the civil rights movement, right?

It was like this extra, added extra that nobody really cared about.

So, I listened-at least in the West Coast, perhaps.

Yeah, at least, yeah, maybe.

And I was watching that, and I thought, okay, so you were part of the second class of students in California specifically specifically to have some kind of force busing, whatever that means,

and you were that girl.

Okay,

what did you just say and who the heck cares?

And I remember thinking, like,

the way she said that,

leftists are going to love it.

They're just going to eat that up.

Because I'm watching it and I'm thinking she like said practically nothing, but the style was there.

I have to tell you, I'm, I...

I think you're at the beginning of the road, and I'm surprised that you didn't frame it differently because you are a writer.

Oh, sorry, yeah.

Okay, how should I have frame?

You're a storyteller.

No, no, no.

In my opinion,

the reason why that was effective is because she knows how to tell a story.

Well, that's exactly right.

That's kind of what I was getting.

Yeah, okay.

She started telling this story about this little girl.

And

I mean, the alarm bells go off.

You know how it's going to end.

She's using the elevator.

But she knows how.

And that little girl was me.

Yeah.

And so she connected with the American people.

She literally could have said anything, any story about catching butterflies.

That little girl was me, yeah.

And you knew they were gonna be like, oh, uh-huh, I'm voting for her, right?

So, so to me, she is the most dangerous for Donald Trump because

if she can get she's not trusted on the economy, she's not trusted on healthcare, she's not trusted on anything, race relations because of that line, maybe, but everything else.

But she is dangerous because how does Donald Trump,

who does Donald Trump,

how does he

take her apart on the debate stage?

It's a good question.

You can never underestimate Trump.

Trump is a wild card, man.

No, I know.

I imagine.

I have not seen him play.

No, I've seen him play a bad hand over and over again, and yet he walks away from the table with all the chips.

You're like, how did that just happen?

That just happened.

He's like a magician.

I 100% agree with you.

Well, I'll tell you what.

I always discounted Kamala Harris, which maybe I shouldn't have done, because I knew she was articulate.

I knew she was savvy.

I knew she could tell a good story.

She's a prosecuting attorney.

The way she speaks is excellent.

I mean, she presents herself beautifully.

But the way she started her career is so problematic for her.

And I don't know how she can recover from that.

In San Francisco?

Yeah, in San Francisco with Willie Brown.

I mean,

I don't think most people know about that.

I mean, I've talked about it on my show, but I don't have a huge reach.

And it's like, how do you start your career by being somebody's girlfriend and that not come back and then go run for president?

I mean, everybody's going to be like,

I don't want you to be my president.

I mean, you would think that.

I mean, maybe we're

so far above.

Maybe we're so far above it.

I mean, I.

I don't know if you've ever watched the show The Flash.

Yeah, the TW show.

Yeah, yeah, sure.

So, you know, their theory about, you know, the multiple Earth, this is from Earth 7.

That's a DC Comics thing, yeah.

I think we just keep slipping onto different places because I'll wake up and I'm like,

when did the language change?

When did everything change?

Look,

I'm all for forgiveness.

You know, I'm all for like, you know, people can change and people have to go through stuff and whatever.

And so I don't like holding people to something that they did 30 years ago.

So maybe that's a good thing that we don't care about that anymore.

You know, maybe that's okay.

Well, but I'll wait, you know.

Wait.

I'm with you as long as it's consistent.

They clearly care about the past.

Oh, Kavanaugh.

Sure, sure.

I'm not talking about leftists.

Right,

I'm just talking about like generally speaking.

Generally speaking, I think it's a good thing to forgive people.

And I wouldn't, I personally wouldn't hold it against her.

I just, I'm trying to read the tea leaves and try to figure out how America is going to react.

So, how is America, are we, we're seeing a slide with Joe Biden.

Sure.

Do you count him out now?

It's a tough thing because, you know, I always said, like, wait for the debates because everybody was like, oh, you know, Joe Biden,

he's got the top numbers.

And I'm like, yeah, because he's got the best name recognition.

That's it.

He's the only, he was the only establishment guy with name recognition.

Like all of the other moderates,

gosh, Tim Ryan,

who knows who Tim Ryan is?

Yeah, I spent most of the night on that first night going,

who is this?

Well, I did a whole thing on this.

I knew who they all were.

Hick and Looper.

What the hell is John Hick and Looper?

Yeah.

John Jacob Hick and Looper Smith.

That's what everybody really think.

That makes me think.

And he's an all right guy.

I mean, a lot of these guys are all right.

People in Colorado would be mad at me for saying that.

But, you know, in terms of personality, they're fine.

Hickenlooper's a kind of funny guy because he went to a deep throat with his mom in the movie theater.

Did you hear about that?

Oh, yeah.

That's crazy.

A lot of these guys have such funny stories.

Mike Gravo didn't make it.

Well, that's not a funny story.

That's just a weird story.

I mean, funny in the sense of odds.

Like, yeah.

Just odd folks.

And who's the other guy?

Delaney?

Delaney's a moderate?

How about Marianne Williamson?

If you want to talk about weird.

Okay, so yeah, that's not moderate.

That's Crazyland.

That's weird.

She's a cult leader.

She's like a legit cult leader.

That's why she sounds kind of good when she's on stage, right?

Like the way she speaks is a little bit...

She's the Course in Miracles lady.

She's, yeah, she's, you know, an Oprah kind of

guru.

She's had a lot of practice speaking in front of audiences.

So she presents herself well and she's kind of authoritative, you know, but the stuff she says is so crazy.

It's crazy.

And it makes good television.

I'm going to harness love and I know love will win.

You are insane if you think you are going to say something like that to Donald Trump and he's not going to be a woman.

Listen, I would love it if she was right.

Oh my gosh.

I would love her to be the candidate.

Just to see those two on stage would just be just a little bit of a mistake.

I'm not even sure Trump would know how to deal with her.

He'd just be like, I don't know how to deal with this.

And now it's always crazy.

That's all you'd have to say.

That's all he'd have to say.

I don't know how to do with this woman.

And I think that says everything we need to say here tonight.

Okay, so Elizabeth Warren.

You know what?

I felt like

people were like, oh, she did well in the first half.

She did bad in the second half.

I felt like she did well in her opening gambit.

And then each subsequent thing that she said, I kind of started to tune out.

I think she's easy to tune out and Sanders is easy to tune out, even though he's shouting at everybody like an old man on the front porch You know yelling at the teenagers to get off his lawn just looks crazy now.

You know why he looks crazy because everybody else is crazy.

Oh, yeah, he is crazy

Somebody somebody said I don't know why I didn't recognize this before I had to learn this from somebody on Fox or something, but

everybody's adopted his platform

so many people have adopted his ridiculous absurd policies that he's boring now.

He's just considered like there's some old guy shouting the same things everybody else, but he just sounds a little weirder doing it.

So people are kind of, I think, I think that he's done, I mean, I kind of predicted this beforehand.

Elizabeth Warren had her day in 2016.

She didn't take it.

Bernie Sanders had his day in 2016.

He got screwed.

I mean, he got screwed by the DNC.

I think the excitement over those two is over.

Elizabeth Warren probably has a lot more steam than Bernie, but yeah, she's.

I thought she was, I really thought she was over.

The Indian thing was just like, I am 15 times more Indian.

I swear to you, 15 times more Native American than she is.

Yeah, she's as white as you can possibly get.

I mean, look at me.

Do I look like, you know,

I have any Indian in me?

Yeah, no, I can't clay.

I'm just a German.

I got a little, I got a quarter Scottish, but German is, I'm the whitest of the white, but I'm kind of, I'm a little dark.

Yeah.

I don't know how I look, I look Italian somehow, but.

So, how do you think this is going to play out?

How do you think, what do you, what do you think we should be looking for?

What does it say to you that Biden is coming down, Bernie is coming down,

Kamala is, is serving the city?

It is fascinating.

Yeah, you do see, I think Kamala's the leader now.

I mean, that's pretty much what everybody's saying.

But, you know, it's the first debate.

So we're going to see some campaigning, some people trying to capitalize on.

You know, who surprised me actually was

who's New York?

New York.

Yeah, the

guy, the guy from New York that that

you're debasing.

I was shocked at how good he was.

Okay, you've ruined New York.

Nobody's going to elect you, but you sound pretty good in the debate.

I was like pretty impressed.

I was like,

they are all crazy.

They are all crazy.

So, as you look at this whole field,

who's the most radical?

Who's the one that you look at and say

there's a real danger

to this person because

they're a real true believer

in radical

revolution.

That's a good question.

Well, who are you thinking of?

I know you got somebody in mind, probably,

if you're asking the question.

I think, well, Bernie Sanders, I mean, I'm talking about not for the election.

I'm talking if they're president.

Bernie Sanders,

Elizabeth Warren.

Oh, yeah, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren are for sure.

But, you know, it's kind of a different question.

Who do you you think is doing well and who do you think is the most dangerous?

That's what's what I'm asking you.

It's not, I'm talking about which one would you say once they got in, if they win, that's the most dangerous thing.

Maybe

Marion Williamson.

But yeah, no, no.

No, but I do, yeah, you're 100% right.

I mean, it's definitely Bernie and Elizabeth Warren because not only Bernie's a true believer for sure.

I mean, he went to USSR, not Russia, USSR on his honeymoon.

I mean, that's that's a true believer.

I mean, that's a little mental.

So that guy's a full-on communist.

I mean, people are like, oh, he's a socialist like Denmark.

Denmark's not a socialist, first of all.

Secondly,

he's like a Soviet-style communist.

I mean, he's hardcore.

Elizabeth Warren, I think, may be even more dangerous because she is an incredibly arrogant academic.

Kind of like Obama was, except Elizabeth Warren, she taught at Harvard, right?

So she thinks of herself as intellectually superior.

You know, it's the centralized state.

It's the whole concept of the centralized state.

Well, we're smarter than the people, so we can organize everything, and we're essentially like omnipotent, and we can make everything work.

And it's that arrogance that I think is very corrupting, because then you start to implement things that you are confident about,

you know, and you just take yourself too seriously, and then,

you know, you end up nosediving the country, not...

not realizing that you're you're imperfect.

You know, I think she's a little bit too arrogant.

I wouldn't want her to be.

We saw that with Obama, and the only other academic that we ever had was Woodrow Wilson.

Right.

The academics are really.

Yeah, because they just...

And I've heard Woodrow Wilson was the same, like very arrogant.

Very arrogant.

Yeah, he was a nightmare.

He was a nightmare.

What is the thing that keeps you up at night?

What is the technology, culture?

Politics?

What's the thing that keeps you up at night?

You know, I'm pretty good.

I think that we,

I used to be much more concerned about the direction of the world when I was younger because I could see this sort of degradation of value, of values, of value, of values, of our traditional values.

But especially since I started my channel, started to do to some extent what you're doing, not quite to that level, obviously.

But, and you must have seen it to some degree too when you started working in in this field.

And I know you've been doing this for quite a while.

But you start to see how many people care.

And that is so heartening.

Like, it's so great to see how many people respond.

And some of the people are a little crazy.

But I really get to interact with people on YouTube because I'll read the comment section.

I'll read my Twitter.

I'll read all this stuff.

As much as I can.

I can't get to it at all.

But you get to see how passionate people are and how much people care and how many people are out there that care.

And some people have very different visions of the the future and they have very different concerns than i have but the fact that they care so much and at least they're to some extent working within the real world i i'm so i've i'm so optimistic about how

you know where we can go with with so many people caring so much so are we are we as divided as we all think we are yeah oh yeah I think so.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

And I think it comes back to that delusion that I mentioned before.

If you genuinely believe that there are good guys and there are bad guys and you can divide those groups by gender and race and religion,

you are bound to, there's bound to be a lot of collateral damage.

Because yeah, sure, there's some straight white Christian guys who are total jerks, who are horrible, horrible people.

But that's not all of us.

You can't condemn entire demographics because of the sins of a few people.

And a lot of the excuse is the sins of a few people hundreds of years ago.

It's like, oh, you got the same skin color and gender as a man who lived 200 years ago and had a slave.

So therefore, you're an evil person.

See, this is the problem.

And Christianity has done, I shouldn't say that.

Our houses of worship, our religions have done such a horrible job at keeping the message of the gospel.

to the individual.

Everything is about individual salvation.

Absolutely.

Everything is.

And, you know, this comes from that collective salvation nonsense

that socialists have been pitching into our churches forever.

That

we all can only really be redeemed when we're all in it together.

That's not the message.

And not the message of the country, not the message of Christ.

And

I think our houses of worship have really dropped the ball.

All of our religions have.

They're struggling because

how many of them really stand for things

and

can apply it to today's world?

Yeah.

Yeah,

it's a good point.

I mean, traditionally, I mean, historically, like the Catholic Church had so much power because you had this huge group of people in Europe who would go to church every Sunday and it was a natural gathering place.

It was a natural group.

And if you tied those groups together and you had a centralized, you know, government of those groups, then you had a very powerful entity.

And as you know, power corrupts and you get a lot of corrupt people in the church.

And then,

like you would say, like this collectivist idea, you know, that kind of integrates reasonably well with that.

Whereas, you know, I grew up Protestant, right?

Non-denominational Protestant.

Non-denominational Protestant is exactly what you're saying.

Like it's the focus is always on the individual.

Even though, yeah, it's a gorgeous, you go to church and, you know, all that kind of stuff.

But it's your individual effort to become a better person.

And you're right.

The church doesn't always do the best job.

But I was absolutely raised that it's an individual thing.

Your faith is an individual thing.

To me, that's a much better, healthier way of looking at it because you don't tie your identity to any group in particular.

Once you tie your identity to the group, then you become an identitarian.

I mean,

you become one of these people that are like, well, I may not have done anything good in my life, but

white people invented stuff.

and

I'm part of that group.

Right.

So I must be great.

I must be great.

And it's like, to me, that's a very,

it's a very defeatist attitude because then you stop trying yourself to do something good.

And to do something great in your life doesn't have to be.

you know, to be president or to do, to make major changes in the world, to be, you know, a YouTube star or to be, you know, the host of a major show or to do something, you know, something that is traditionally considered great

in our culture.

You can be great great just by being a good man by being a good father by being a good husband uh i'm talking about men now but uh you know because i'm a guy and i relate to that but but um

just being a good person and changing a person's life on an individual level is not only so so

it's it's an amazing thing to do on a one-to-one like hearing people tell me something that i changed their life on a one-to-one level is so much more satisfying than just just doing my show because even though my show is a fantastic way to try to shift people's views a little bit in a way that I think is good,

it's that one-to-one connection that really is really very powerful.

And everybody can do that.

Everybody can do that with their friends, with their relatives, with their family, just by being a good person, just by living a good example of a good man or a good woman, good wife, a good husband, a good son, or a good daughter.

You know, which I wasn't always.

Sorry, mom.

Mr.

Reagan.

Glenn Beck, thanks for being on.

Thank you, sir.

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