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We're going to mainly focus on the Mueller report and just kind of go through that
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All right, if we can bring up the Mueller testimony just a little bit so we can talk over it and then hear if there's anything interesting when he gets to questions or answers.
Page two of volume two
reads as follows.
The evidence we obtained about the president's actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.
Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.
Now,
I read that correctly?
Yes.
All right.
Now, your report, and today you said at all times the special counsel team operated under, was guided by, and followed Justice Department policies and principles.
So, which DOJ policy or principle sets forth a legal standard that an investigated person is not exonerated if their innocence from criminal conduct is not conclusively determined?
That's a question by the last part of that question.
Congressman Ratcliffe.
Which DOJ policy or principle set forth a a legal standard that an investigated person is not exonerated if their innocence from criminal conduct is not conclusively determined?
Where does that language come from, Director?
Where is the DOJ policy that says that?
Let me make it easier.
Can you give me an example other than Donald Trump, where the Justice Department determined that an investigated person was not exonerated because their innocence was not conclusively determined?
I cannot, but this is a unique question.
Okay, well,
you can't.
Time is short.
I've got five minutes.
Let's just leave it at you can't find it because I'll tell you why.
It doesn't exist.
The special counsel's job, nowhere does it say that you were to conclusively determine Donald Trump's innocence or that the special counsel
determines whether or not to exonerate him.
It's not in any of the documents.
It's not in your appointment order.
It's not in the special counsel regulations.
It's not in the OLC opinions.
It's not in the justice manual, and it's not in the principles of federal prosecution.
Nowhere do those words appear together because, respectfully, respectfully, Director, it was not the special counsel's job to conclusively determine Donald Trump's innocence or to exonerate him because the bedrock principle of our justice system is a presumption of innocence.
It exists for everyone.
Everyone is entitled to it, including sitting presidents.
And because there is a presumption of innocence, prosecutors never, ever need to conclusively determine it.
Now, Director, the special Counsel applied this inverted burden of proof that I can't find and you said doesn't exist anywhere in the department policies, and you used it to write a report.
And the very first line of your report, the very first line of your report says, and as you read this morning, it authorizes the special counsel to provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel.
That's the very first word of your report, right?
That's correct.
Here's the problem, Director.
The special counsel didn't do that.
On volume one, you did.
On volume two, with respect to potential obstruction of justice, the special counsel made neither a prosecution decision or a declination decision.
You made no decision.
You told us this morning and in your report that you made no determination.
So, respectfully, Director, you didn't follow the special counsel regulations.
It clearly says write a confidential report about decisions reached.
Nowhere in here does it say write a report about decisions that weren't reached.
You wrote 180 pages, 180 pages about decisions that weren't reached, about potential crimes that weren't charged or decided.
And respectfully, respectfully by doing that, you managed to violate every principle and the most sacred of traditions about prosecutors not offering extra-prosecutorial analysis about potential crimes that aren't charged.
So Americans need to know this as they listen to the Democrats and socialists on the other side of the aisle, as they do dramatic readings.
This report, that volume two of this report was not authorized under the law to be written.
It was written to a legal standard that does not exist at the Justice Department.
And it was written in violation of every DOJ principle about extra-prosecutorial commentary.
I agree with the chairman this morning when he said Donald Trump is not above the law.
He's not, but he damn sure shouldn't be below the law, which is where volume two of this report puts him.
All really good points by Ratcliffe.
I would have liked to have heard Mike Mueller's response.
Answer there.
Oh, no, now we go to another Texan.
Sheila Jackson Lee.
The Trump campaign chair, Paul Manafort, was passing sensitive voter information and polar data to a Russian operative.
And there were so many other ways that Russia subverted our democracy.
Together with the evidence in Volume 1, I cannot think of a more serious need to investigate.
So now I'm going to ask you some questions about obstruction of justice as it relates to Volume 2.
Napoleon's jacket.
You state we determined that there were sufficient factual legal basis to further investigate potential.
All she has to do is stick her hand into the jacket and she's Napoleon.
Is that correct?
Do you have to do that?
You put some tassels
on her hair, and it looks like his hat, too.
And which portion of that page?
That is, we determined that there was a sufficient factual and legal basis to further investigate potential obstruction of justice issues.
She doesn't know where it is on the page because someone pulled the quote for her and put it on a separate page.
Your report also describes at least 10 separate instances of possible obstruction of justice that were investigated by you and your team.
Is that correct?
Yes, sir.
In fact, the table of contents serves as a very good guide of some of the acts of the publication of the public.
There is a table of contents.
Is that correct, sir?
Yes.
And that serves as a guide to find what you wrote.
Is that correct, sir?
Yes.
These numbers seem to be page numbers identifying where these pieces of the report exist.
Is that correct, Mr.
Mueller?
Yes.
The President orders Don McGahn to deny that the president tried to do that.
Are those same numbers on pages later in your report?
I direct you now to what you wrote, Director Mueller.
The President's pattern of conduct as a whole sheds light on the nature of the president's acts and the inferences that can be drawn about his intent.
Does that mean you have to investigate all of his conduct to ascertain true motive?
No.
And when you talk about the president's pattern of conduct that includes the ten possible acts of obstruction that you investigated, is that correct?
When you talk about the president's pattern of conduct, that was
dressed like a British
obstruction that you investigated, correct?
The revolutionary director
reported how that is characterized.
Thank you.
Let me go to the screen again.
And for each of those ten potential instances of obstruction of justice, you analyzed three elements of the crime of obstructional justice.
An obstructive act, a nexus between the act and an official proceeding, and corrupt intent.
Is that correct?
Yes.
You wrote on page 178, volume 2, and you wrote.
So, this is a strategy, though, Glenn.
And it's important to understand what Democrats are doing.
What they believe is that the American people have not read this report.
They don't know what's in it, and it would be damning.
So, what they're going to do is read sections from the report,
basically pick the things that look worse for Trump, the worst things they can find, and then just have Mueller say, yes, that is what I said.
So, like, it's giving them, they're trying to get these viral moments out of reading the report because they know he's not going to say anything additional.
This is why this is such a circus.
Can you please get the theme from Barry Linden?
Because I need it under Sheila Jackson Lee as I'm just watching it.
This is not a viral moment
at all.
And I don't think the American people are really interested.
I think Congress is interested in this, and I think for all the wrong reasons, the media is interested in this.
But I don't think you're going to find anything
from Mueller today that is
new
at all.
And you're just going to solidify people's positions of where they already are.
I would have liked to hear, and at some point, I'm sure they'll get back to it.
I would love to hear Mueller's response to the questions from Ratcliffe.
Me, too.
Like, hey, you know, you invented this new thing where it's not innocent or guilty.
It's, well, we couldn't prove the guilt, so
we couldn't prove the innocence, so maybe he was guilty.
That new legal standard, I'd love to hear that one explained from Mueller at some point, and hopefully, we get to that uh today.
Yeah, well, we'll
we'll see.
I, I, I doubt it.
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Man,
the council here
is
They spent two hours yesterday,
the Democrats, in closed-door session rehearsing and practicing.
Now we go to Mr.
Sensenbrenner
and his cross-examination of Mueller.
Pages in raw evidentiary material, including hundreds of references to 302, which are interviews by the FBI, for individuals who have never been cross-examined and which did not comply with the special counsel's governing regulation to explain the prosecution or declination decisions reached, correct?
And where are you reading from on that?
I'm reading from my question.
Then, could you repeat it?
Okay.
You have 182 pages of raw evidentiary material with hundreds of references to 302s who were never been cross-examined and which didn't comply with the governing regulation to explain the prosecution or
declination decisions reached.
This is one of those areas which I decline to discuss.
Okay, then let me.
And I would direct you to the report itself.
Okay.
Well, I looked at it
182 pages of it.
You know, let me switch gears.
It kind of looked like something that would be happening at a nursing home.
Yeah.
Like,
let me tell you something else.
Well, I don't know.
You'd have to check the papers for that area.
It could be a sequel to Last Vegas that this scene happens in.
Grumpy Old Men there.
There's a number of occasions
You never used the term raising to impeachable conduct for any of the ten instances that the gentlewoman from Texas
did.
Is it true that there is nothing in Volume two of of the report that says that the President may have engaged in impeachable conduct?
Well,
we have
previously
kept in
the center of our investigation
our mandate.
And our mandate does not go to other ways of addressing conduct.
Our mandate goes to
what
developing the report and putting the report into the Attorney General's.
you know, it seems to me, you know, that there are a couple of statements that you made, you know, that said that this is not for me to decide, and the implication is that this is for this committee to decide.
Now, you didn't use the word impeachable conduct like Starr did.
There was no statute to prevent you from using the word impeachable conduct.
And I go back to what Mr.
Radcliffe said, and that is, is that even the president is innocent until proven guilty.
My time is up.
Gentlemen, his time has expired.
Really?
That's a really good point.
Do you understand what he was trying to say here?
All right, well, then you don't need me anyway.
Well, you have the whole audience you could explain it to.
You should hear them.
Go ahead.
Everybody that needs to.
What he said there
was,
now I can't remember.
By the way, just to remind you, Glenn nominated for the Radio Hall of Fame this year.
What he was saying there was,
look,
you can put opinions out there and say it's up for this committee because impeachment is your own standard.
But you didn't say impeachment.
You were talking about possible crimes.
And, well, I don't know.
I mean, you could look at it this way.
You would look at it that way.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, that is, that's putting the president below the law.
Right.
And he's also making the point that, hey, Ken Starr did see it as impeachable.
He put it in his his report.
Why didn't you put it in yours?
Correct.
And of course,
an implication is there that it wasn't impeachable.
He didn't agree with that per se.
Also, they were
old.
He wasn't pleased with
Mr.
Cohen.
He was a special counsel, and particularly you, because of your outstanding reputation.
Democrat.
Prior to your appointment, the Attorney General recused himself from the investigation because of his role in the 2016 campaign.
Is that not correct?
Recusal means the Attorney General could not be involved in the investigation.
Is that correct?
That's the effect of recusal, yes.
And so instead, another Trump appointee, as you know Mr.
Sessions was, Mr.
Rosenstein, became in charge of it.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Wasn't Attorney General Sessions following the rules and professional advice of the Department of Justice ethics folks when he recused himself from the investigation?
Yes.
And yet the President repeatedly expressed his displeasure at Sessions' decision to follow those ethics rules to recuse himself himself from oversight of that investigation.
Is that not correct?
That's accurate based on what is written in the report.
And the President's reaction to the recusal is noted in the report.
Mr.
Bannon recalled that the President was mad, as mad as Bannon had ever seen him, and he screamed at McGann about how weak Sessions was.
Do you recall that from the report?
That's in the report, yes.
Despite knowing that Attorney General Sessions was supposed to be a very important thing.
This is ridiculous.
I mean, this is really
the president's still trying to get it.
Yeah, it's in the report.
unreported.
Yes.
And of course, it's just a show.
Again, it's the Hollywood for Ugly People thing, right?
Like, that's what this is a show.
Right.
And they're trying to just read from the report questions they know are in the report.
Right.
So here's the thing: we could just take the Republicans because they're saying something new, and then you could read the report.
You know, if you want to hear,
yes.
You just read the report.
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So we have we're we're just uh we're just covering the Mueller report and uh the
the questioning uh of Robert Mueller.
And this this is now a question, let's bring this up.
This is Hank Johnson.
Oh, correct.
And in fact,
Don McGahn advised
the dumbest congressman we had.
Just saying something.
Yeah, it is.
A lot of dumb.
Isn't that true?
I referred to the report on that episode.
Well, page 85 of Volume 2
speaks to that.
And also, Director Mueller, DOJ ethics officials confirmed that you had no conflicts that would prevent you from serving as special counsel.
Isn't that correct?
That's correct.
But despite Don McGahn and the Department of Justice guidance, around May 23rd, 2017, the President, quote, prodded McGahn to complain to Deputy Attorney
Wilson
about these supposed
to complain.
Again, which I'm bummed because he is so good
when he asks questions.
If you remember,
when Hank Johnson from Georgia,
by the way, what the hell is going on with Georgia politics?
Cynthia McKinney,
Johnson, the woman who this earlier this week was like,
the guy told me to go back home, which was completely untrue.
Now they have the videotape showing that everything she said was bogus.
Isn't that great?
Oh, it's amazing.
It's great.
It's amazing.
By the way, you can keep the Hank Johnson questioning up.
We're just going to keep monitoring this in case anything exciting happens.
Well, in case the whole committee tips over and
capsizes.
Hank Johnson, that's what he said in committee.
He was asking a general about sending more troops to Guan.
We have it?
Oh, play this.
I love this.
My fear is that
the whole island will
become so overly populated that it will tip over and
capsize.
Listen to this general.
We don't anticipate that.
The greatest response of all time.
Of all time.
Of all time.
Do you know how islands work, sir?
Because it was still respectful, and yet
at the same time, relate how ridiculous the question was.
It's not like a floaty in a pool that can just travel around.
I don't know if you know that.
Can we talk about another development here with Hank Johnson?
Did he have like
a tube in his throat
like a recent surgery or something?
That I don't know about more.
Massive shaving problems.
Did he have a shaving incident?
Because it looks like he cut himself shaving and still has the paper towel under his chin.
Watch when he looks up.
No, he does.
Is that what it is?
I think it is.
You can kind of see it a little bit.
A little bit.
But when he looks up, watch him look up.
There he is.
He's like, I got toilet paper stuck to my neck.
I mean, you fire your entire staff after this, if this is what this is.
It could be something we don't know about medical issues.
With our luck, it was something he was in the hospital getting a blood transfusion last night, and then this will all be Twitter going, look at how insensitive they just hate him because he's black.
Well, you know, that is why we mentioned, of course, that it could be, it could legitimately be something medical that I don't know about, but it does appear to be
that he just cut himself shaving.
Shaving accident, yeah.
Well, maybe he was shaving on an island that was in the middle of capsizing.
Oh,
possibly.
Sometimes when you move your arm to one side or the other of the room, and that room just starts to move a little bit, exactly.
You got to be careful while you're shaving.
Why don't shave on planes?
We learned that from the documentary
airplane.
Not a documentary, but
I appreciate that.
By the way, tonight at 5 o'clock, you've got to join us, Pat.
You got to be.
Is this the Alana Omar thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is really going to be a good special tonight.
I bet.
We have an hour-long special.
Do you delve into the...
Or maybe you don't want to give this away.
No, no.
Dude, delve into the marriage with a brother.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
We're trying to explain,
A, what this controversy is, because most people are like, this can't be true.
What's about this?
You married your brother.
What is this?
And so we explain what all of the controversies are from her all the way back to Somalia
to today.
and we are also giving all of the evidence that has been found.
And
it is, I think it's enough to call a grand jury.
I have been absolutely dumbfounded by the fact that nobody has been able to, maybe until tonight, has been able to follow up on this.
She married her brother for
immigration purposes, and nobody can actually track that down.
But we're not sure.
We're getting an answer from
the moment.
How could it be?
Because she won't answer the question.
There is no birth certificate because Somalia was such a nightmare.
Okay, so there was no birth certificate.
So
you just have to take and piece together what she says, what he says,
follow the pictures, follow the immigration,
and what they said when they were coming in.
So there's no records of that family in Somalia?
No.
Wow.
It was a civil war, right?
Yeah, it's a civil war.
It's not in a refugee.
We had one too, and we still have records.
It's possible we had a more developed government than Somalia even then.
Even then.
Even then.
It's not unusual for not to have birth certificates.
And it's really important that we don't make this into a birth certificate thing.
Right.
Because it's not.
We're not questioning how she got here.
We know how she got here.
But there's illegal, potential illegal activity there.
There's illegal activity that seems pretty likely
on how she got in.
The family was broken in half.
Half went to England under one name.
The other half came here under the Omar name.
And then we have all of the photographic evidence.
You're just going to have to decide for yourself.
It's enough to be able to go now and say to a grand jury, you need to investigate this because there's a felony on entrance.
There's possible felonies on uh uh lying about uh who people are for um educational purposes for discounts fraud uh there is a felony of her tax uh forms where she was
i mean incredible there's 28 is it 28 tickets and citations that she and her husband slash brother received in this time period where they where they state their address
and their address is the same address where her quote ex-husband lived
so it looks like she was living with her quote new husband most likely brother
with her with the
husband so she supposedly divorced it was bigamy yeah no she didn't divorce well didn't she at one point divorce him no she said yes in the muslim tradition right okay okay so she married him in the Muslim tradition.
Right.
And what's really strange is most people don't know this.
She's
being married to him again.
Correct.
But when she married her brother or whoever this guy is, she married with
a Christian pastor.
Now, why would a devout
Muslim who wears a hijab
and a devout devout Muslim male marry with a Christian pastor.
Why indeed?
Diarrhea.
That's why.
I mean, there's just a lot of stuff like that that's just bizarre.
Just totally bizarre.
But there are, I believe, crimes, serious crimes.
And the Minneapolis.
Oh, yeah.
Jail crimes, felonies.
Not high crimes and misdemeanors, actual felonies.
You don't have to have an opinion on this.
If these things are true, she should be going to prison.
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Let's, real quick, let's go to
Louis Gomer.
Development of any of those obstructions you referenced requires a corrupt state of mind, correct?
Corrupt intent, correct.
Right.
And if somebody knows they did not conspire with anybody from Russia to affect the election,
And they see the big Justice Department with people that hate that person coming after him and then a special counsel appointed who hires dozen or more people that hate that person
and he knows he's innocent he's not corruptly acting in order to see that justice is done what he's doing is not obstructing justice he is pursuing justice and the fact that you ran it out two years means you perpetuated injustice i take your deal question.
The gentleman's time has expired.
The witness may answer the question.
I take your question.
What does that mean?
Gentleman from Florida.
Director Mahler, this is like
senile, just talking at each other.
What the hell does that mean?
I take your question.
I guess it's just I understand it.
Yeah.
He's not going to.
He doesn't respect, I guess, the question.
I heard that you said that, essentially, is what he said.
I mean,
isn't that a good point, though?
Yeah,
I mean, I'd like to hear your.
And then in your report, you wrote about multiple calls from the president to White House Counsel Don McGahn.
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Tell Rod that Mueller has conflicts and
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Director Mueller, did McGahn understand what the president was ordering him to do?
I directed to what we've written in the report in terms of characterizing his feelings.
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Tom Fitten, the president of Judicial Watch, has just yesterday filed a House ethics complaint against Representative Elon Omar over potential immigration, marriage, tax, and student loan fraud.
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That's a public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption.
They have been around for a long time.
Tom Fitton is their president at Judicial Watch, and they have just filed a house ethics complaint against Elon Omar.
Welcome to the program, Tom.
Glenn, good to be with you.
Thank you for having me on.
Thanks.
We're doing a special tonight.
And, you know,
the mainstream media makes this into a conspiracy theory, or they say this is just to crazy, you know, right-wingers.
But we've had the Minneapolis Star Tribune do an investigation themselves and verify the investigations by crazy right-wingers.
And they either can confirm, they can confirm about 60%
of it, and the rest of it they say they can't disprove without her participation.
These are serious, serious crimes.
What we're presenting tonight, I believe, is enough for an indictment and a call for a grand jury.
I gather you're at the same place.
Yeah, there's certainly enough evidence to warrant a criminal investigation into what went on there.
And, you know, Glenn, you've been looking at this, I'm sure, for as long as we have.
It's kind of been this like low-grade fever type of corruption scandal.
And when her hometown left-wing newspaper essentially puts its stamp of approval on the concerns that we've had for a long time about what was going on there,
I think it's pretty hard now for the Justice Department to ignore it, Department of Homeland Security, the IRS, And, you know, there's a political process for handling ethics concerns related to this type of activity, which is what we're trying to pursue with the House.
We're not naive as to the interest in Democrats in doing this, but
we just got to try to make the system work.
We've got to try to remind these members they're not above the law and hold other members accountable if they're going to try to let them get away with it.
But I think that is, they do think they're above the law.
I mean, we're talking perjury, immigration fraud, marriage fraud, state and federal tax fraud, federal student loan fraud.
If it was you, Tom, or if it was me,
how much trouble would we be in?
How much jail time would we be looking at?
Yeah, this would be an easy prosecution if it were a regular individual involved in it.
But this is a politically connected figure, now a member of Congress.
I'm sure the Justice Board would be horrified of having to do something here.
But that's the goal of filing this ethics complaint.
Not only will it put pressure on the House to do something about it, but highlight the issue for the Justice Department to follow up.
So hang on just a second.
You say it would be very easy.
Why would it be very easy?
It's complicated.
Well, it's not that complicated.
You know, so your listeners should know, it looks like Miss Omar came into the United States using the name of another family.
The Omar family.
Her siblings, including her her brother, went to the United Kingdom.
It looks like she married her brother to give him some type of immigration benefits here in the United States.
It's unclear how that plays out.
So it's so bad that
we can't be confident that, as we point out, it's not her.
She's going by another name that's not her own as a member of Congress.
It's extraordinary.
So
it seems to be pretty well documented that this is what happened.
What I can't figure out is why did
she come with her
father, I think, her father and her sister, and go under the Omar family with the other siblings going to the U.K.
Is it because the Omars could only take a certain number of people or why didn't they take the whole family under the Omar name?
Do you know?
Well, I'm not sure about that, but remember,
these are refugees.
They were in Kenya at the time.
And who knows what was going on?
Maybe they could only bring three individuals in with under the other family's name or the other or her other members wanted to go to the United Kingdom for other reasons.
My guess is this is just a tip of the iceberg and probably not an unusual story in terms of a fraud associated with refugee settlements here in the United States.
Apparently,
DNA evidence shows that 80% of Somalis coming in are not related to the people they say they're related to.
Yeah, you know, and
that might be happening with a wink and a nod from authorities.
The point is, get the refugees in and the specifics of the names, however important it might be to national security and the rule of law aren't terribly relevant to helping the refugees.
But if you're going to run for Congress, you've got to make sure all your ducks in a row.
And that hasn't happened to you.
It's amazing to me that under Obama we couldn't take Christian refugees because we just didn't know.
But if you say, and I believe this to be true, authorities look at this with a wink and a nod for Somalian Muslim ref refugees, but they don't have a wink and a nod for Christian, Syrian, or Iraqi refugees.
It it there's something really toxic in our system.
Well, you remember the refugee program, the vetting of refugees was outsourced to third parties, UN officials and folks like that.
So
even the United States just essentially accepted the word of the third-party vetters.
That's what had been happening with the refugee program, which is why President Trump tried to reform it to get more security measures in place.
So
let me go here.
As you're looking at the fraud of the marriage, she marries her
husband.
Let's call him Ahmed One.
She marries Ahmed One, but she says she only marries him under a religious ceremony.
Is there any documentation of those two being married legally at all the first time?
No, and I think, you know, some of the religious ceremonies were officiated by a Christian minister, which is.
Well, that was Ahmed II.
Ahmed II.
Ahmed II.
Ahmed I
was a religious Muslim to the Muslim tradition.
Ahmed II was a legal and
Christian ceremony done by a Christian pastor, which I just, how does this woman who's wearing a burqa get married by a Christian?
It doesn't make sense.
I encourage all your listeners to go to the Power Line blog so they can start creating their own genealogical charts and marriage charts for the congressman from Minnesota.
And this is why the ethics committee needs to get into this because
she was playing fast and loose with our marriage laws.
She was filing IRS forms,
pretending to be married to one person when, in fact, she was married to another.
She had to amend the form.
She said that's good enough, but it may not be good enough.
It wouldn't be good enough for most any other American if you committed marriage fraud and you were just caught on an IRS form doing it.
No, and she also committed perjury on like 26 different, I think they're traffic violations and other violations that she and Ahmed 2 got,
and they put their address down as the address of Ahmed 1.
So apparently they were all living together in some strange threes company kind of
marriage with her children and both husbands.
I mean, I don't even know what that is.
Well, you know, if you're engaged in marriage fraud, it makes perfect sense.
Correct.
You understand?
She's living with her brother.
Her husband's there, too.
On paper, the brother's married to her, but it's nothing substantive beyond the paper marriage for purposes of immigration and other purpose.
Who knows what other purposes to have them get some benefits from that marriage.
And on top of that, you have to wonder whether the house was defrauded in terms of descriptions about her name and other background material in terms of filings with the House.
This is a,
you know, there's criminal liability here potentially, but she could be removed from Congress if the House does its job here and concludes the evidence shows what we suggest it does.
But isn't she also, I mean, aren't these felonies?
Yep.
Yep.
You know, the U.S.
Attorney, I don't know who the U.S.
Attorney in Minnesota is, but if he ain't looking at it, he ain't doing his job.
Tom, you've looked at this stuff and you've been in this business for a while.
How comfortable are you with
the Facebook?
A lot of the stuff we can't go any further because all we have are Facebook posts of her and Ahmed 2, the timeline, et cetera, et cetera.
They were deleted from her timelines.
They were deleted from her and her alleged brothers
posts.
All of this has been erased, but we have access to those things.
How comfortable are you that these are legitimately her and her families?
Well, when I see our good friends at the Power Line blog who I trust, even though the big media pretends you can't trust them, they were quite diligent in trying to ferret out all this information.
And then you have
the legacy media come in, the Minnesota newspaper come in, and essentially say, yeah, there are a lot of questions here, and she's acting like she has something to hide, and essentially repeats the reporting of our conservative friends there in Parallel.
You know, as you point out, I've been doing this for a long time.
People sometimes come to the wrong conclusions about publicly available documents.
And I think
the right conclusions about this is that something illegal took place.
Scott Johnson, who runs Power Line Blog, did a lot of reporting on this.
He was in the media the other day.
He said he was 98% certain marriage fraud took place and 90% certain the marriage fraud was with his brother, with her brother.
So something needs to be done here.
And if she's innocent, then let the investigation figure that out.
Right.
And or, you know, let's have an investigation so that we can conclude one way or another whether we should move on.
It shouldn't be.
And she should be.
There is a presumption of
innocence.
Right.
But there's enough evidence that any other citizen would be subject to a criminal investigation.
Yes.
Tom, thank you so much.
Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch.
He is the president of that.
We are doing a special on this tonight.
This is serious, serious allegations.
And we want to explain the entire story to you.
It's very difficult, especially when you're reading it or listening to it on the radio.
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This is
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Hamas.
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We have David Steinberg on with us now.
David is a journalist.
He has been following the Elon Omar case for how long, David?
A year?
Over a year?
I've been on this a little more than a year.
Scott Johnson and Preyo Samson started this, got on it back in August of 2016.
And this is when nobody was on it.
And it actually started, these claims started
with a Somali blogger, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, there was a message board used by members of the local Minneapolis Somali community.
And just in the hours after Ilhan first won a primary in August of 2016, they posted the first evidence that her marriage was a sham and that this person was actually her genetic brother, who she had married in 2009.
And
what was the evidence then?
The evidence then was photographic and it was also
referencing,
they specifically referenced when she got married to the person who she claims it was her husband at the time, this Ahmed Hersey.
he pointed out where we could dig up the documents, that the document should be there.
Go ahead.
I talked to you about, I don't know, I think we started first talking about eight months ago or so, and you were on this, and I know you were working with people in England to get more documentation because half the family
went to Virginia when they left Kenya.
They're from Somalia.
They were in
a refugee camp in Kenya, and they were trying to get out to the west.
And half the family went to Virginia with the Omar family.
And that's when she allegedly changed her name to Omar.
She's not an Omar, apparently.
She is an Elmi.
And the rest of her family,
I think three others, went to England.
Do you know why the family split at that point?
Why didn't they all go to America with the Omars?
Do you know?
Well, what we've heard from sources in the Somali community
who were involved with this wave of refugee immigration to the U.S.
at that time were well aware of what people were doing
to gain access to both the U.S.
and the U.K.
at that time.
Several people gave us the same story about
how Ilhan and her father arrived in the United States.
They said these there was this family, the Omars, which apparently already had a relative in the United States.
So they were using the P three refugee application program, Family Reunification,
which allows you to apply as a refugee in a bit quicker fashion if you already have someone in the U.
S., which
legally is referred to as the anchor relative.
now
so that was the Omar family it appeared they already have that
and this was somebody the Omar family is within the same clan as Ilhan's father okay
and
they had a discussion over in Kenya at the refugee camp the Omar family allowed them allowed
Ilhan's father
Ilhan's sister and Ilhan to fraudulently apply as part of this P3 program as members of the Omar family.
And then Omar's brother and sister
went over to the UK under the family name of Elmi.
Correct.
That's what we also heard.
They applied
for
asylum in the United Kingdom under their legal names, which was Ahmed Nursaeed Elmi, Layla Nursaeed Elmi, and Mohamed Nurs Saeed Elmi.
Those were three siblings of Ilhans.
Okay, so why didn't those three, any idea why those three did not come under the Omar banner here in America?
Was there a limit?
Or
do we know anything on that?
I don't have anything to verify what I've heard from sources as to why those three did not
But what I have heard from sources is that there just simply wasn't a likelihood of getting that many people.
Okay.
Correct.
All right.
So now we have Ahmed Elmi, apparently her brother, who she's later going to marry, living in Camden in the United Kingdom, and Leela Elmi, who also lived in Camden, at apparently the same address.
Do we have?
I know you talked to, or I know you have both of them in Camden.
Do we have anything that shows that they're at the same address?
Yes, I have them at the same address, which I haven't published because I believe either
they or relatives are still at the address.
So I haven't published that, but I do have both of them at the same address.
We have
verification that
both from
the school itself and from Ahmed Elmi's own social media that he attended
the junior high high school, which was in that neighborhood.
All right.
So can you,
if we don't publish or anything, if it's just for our eyes only, so I can verify this, can you send me the information that you have where the places them at the same address?
So I can
because that is those are the only two questions that I had on this:
okay, don't understand the split up other than it was not likely to get all of them in under the Omars.
And the other is, do you have anything that is firming confirming that they were living at the same address?
Because we do know that Leah, Leah Elmy
is
Layla Elmy, is
Omar's sister because of what evidence?
The evidence that I published was
the problem is that he was a minor at the time.
So coming up with anything beyond address records legally is very,
it's not something, you know, I've been able to do the whole investigation without requesting that anybody leak me something and put themselves in jeopardy.
I didn't want to start.
So that's been difficult.
What I have been able to show, though, is he was enrolled at that school
that they lived at the same address, which I'm happy to forward to you.
No, no, no, but I'm asking about Layla.
How do we, what are the connections?
Yeah, what are the connections there that we know they are sisters?
Because once we know they're sisters and we have Ahmed as a youth living with her,
we, I mean, we pretty much have that.
I mean, that's pretty much done.
What I published as far as a connection showing Ilhan and Layla are sisters,
Ilhan has, on multiple occasions, referred to her own father as a man named Nur Saeed.
She's been photographed with him.
She's called him Nurse Saeed.
She tweets his name was Nurse Saeed.
Everyone in the community knew him by that name.
And
he,
his social media, he refers to himself as Nurs Aeed.
I pull up
a marriage document from 1997 from Camden, the borough of London,
and
Layla Nursaeed Elmi, when she got married in 1997, she lists her father on the application form as Nurs Aeed Elmi.
Now,
at the age of,
we know his birth date of the one in the United States that is referred to, that Ilhan has referred to as her father.
There is nobody else
in either the United States or the United Kingdom named Nurse Ayed Almi that I can locate.
There is certainly nobody close to the same birth date.
Now, then I also published photographs which had originally appeared on Ilhan Omar's social media back in 2016, which she deleted once Scott Johnson first got on this case.
The photograph I published was Layla Elmi, Ilhan Omar,
and Nurse Said,
the father, all with their arms around each other on a family vacation in late 2011.
I published another picture of Ilhan Omar visiting Layla Elmi
in 2015 in London.
And remarkably, Ilhan put a caption on the page, I heart my sisters.
And then I also published
another social media post by someone who attended an event in late 2018 in Washington, D.C.
with Ilhan Omar and Layla Elmy.
He says, I just had dinner with Ilhan Omar and her sister Layla Elmy.
He had no,
there is no rational, objective reason for him to incorrectly identify the person he had dinner with as Ilhan's sister, Layla Elmi.
Now,
this event
actually took place a couple hours after Ilhan had filed a police, no, she didn't file a report, I'm sorry about that.
She had been in a taxi,
and she claimed the next day that the taxi driver had harassed her and said,
threatened to pull her hijab off
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She later, a few days later, filed a report with a
D.C.
Ethics Commission and the Taxi Cab Commission that
stated, I FOIA the report, it stated, I was in the car with my sister.
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we know so she know we know she has testified here this is a legal document she could be punished for perjury for filing that falsely that the person she was with she identified as her sister this person who we can place at that event having dinner with her said that sister was Layla Elmy
which makes her second husband her brother.
And this is a it's a very complex story, but it is very buttoned up.
David, I salute you and all those who have risked so much and spent so much time on this story.
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There is enough here to
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She should be presumed innocent until proven guilty, but if I were on a grand jury, there is more than enough to say, yes, prosecutors should look at investigating her and buttoning these things up.
If these things are absolutely true, she should be compelled to testify and answer some of these questions.
And
these are, it's not only fraud, it's forgery.
I'm sorry, it's not only forgery and fraud, it is a felony.
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Appreciate it.
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He's the executive editor of the Heartland Institute.
And
correct me if I'm wrong.
Justin, didn't you and I first interact
because
you started, was it the Hartland Institute?
You started this expose, if you will, or the exposing of socialism.
So, yeah, it was started stoppingsocialism.com.
That's what it was.
That's right.
Stoppingsocialism.com.
Go there now
back in the summer of last year.
So basically a year ago.
It was only a year ago.
It was only a year ago.
It was really spurred on by the rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and some of the stuff that I was seeing with my own generation.
I'm a young guy.
Yeah, yeah.
Seeing people fall in love with socialism all over the world.
It's crazy.
And you have to, you really have to not be able to think.
Yeah.
You know, or you're just, you're in willful ignorance
and there's no critical thinking engaged at all.
Not at all.
And
I mean, you talked about willful ignorance.
I mean, it's sort of willful, but it's also, my generation grew up, I went to a public school in the liberal northeast.
And so I get it.
I mean, I was indoctrinated like everybody else i mean it didn't take with me but it took with just about everybody else around me so i understand so how was it how was it taught to you how was socialism you say indoctrinated i grew up i went into school i went i was in school in the 70s i graduated high school in 82 so i missed apparently i missed all of this indoctrination how is it how is it presented in school it's it's presented in school as capitalism is for greedy heartless terrible people you're a terrible person if you're a capitalist okay And socialism is basically charity.
That's what it is.
It's some kind of form of charity.
And yeah, there are all these socialist governments all throughout history that screwed it up, but that's because they were authoritarian socialist governments.
If they had only been democratic, then that would have solved all of their problems.
Although they were all democratic, at least at first, they all got in with a vote.
Yeah, that's right.
That's how it always starts.
See, it always starts with democracy, and then it devolves very quickly into tyranny.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, they skipped over that part of the history lesson in school.
But that's how it's always sold.
It's, look, we're making progress.
Things are getting better.
We just need to put the right bureaucrats in place.
We need to have the right.
I mean, it's the same thing.
This is the end of Wilson's dream.
It is.
It really is.
Before I came here, actually, on the plane, I was re-listening to Liars.
A great book, by the way.
Thank you very much for the
money.
And when going over that history all over again,
it's astounding how this is just repeating itself over and over and over again.
It's the same story that was in the early 1900s and even late 1800s is playing out again 100 years later.
We've learned nothing.
We've learned absolutely nothing.
Bill Gates,
Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, they will be known unless we turn the...
the tide this time.
They're going to be known as the robber barons of this era.
And look at the good that they have done.
Absolutely.
I talk about this all the time with people.
My wife is a doctor, so I know a lot of doctors.
They love single-payer healthcare.
They're all academic doctors.
Love it.
It's crazy.
It is because I tell them all the time, look, who do you think they're coming for first?
Who do you think is going to be the first scapegoat when things start to go wrong, when costs are too high?
You guys are all making $500,000, $600,000, $700,000 a year, the surgeons and stuff like that.
Do you think that they're just going to let you do this forever?
Of course not.
Do you think they care that you have a half a million dollars dollars in student loan debt and all this stuff?
No, they'll forgive it and you have to work for it.
That's right.
And then you work for them at whatever price they pay.
So that is absolutely going to come.
They're going to be demonized too.
There are all sorts of, this is how socialism always plays out.
There is always a shifting group of people who become, if only we could get rid of them.
Or if only we could somehow put the chains on them.
Yes.
They're the problem, not us, them.
And it shifts because as soon as they put the chains on one group, that doesn't work.
They have to put the the chains on another group.
Correct.
And it goes back and forth over and over and over again.
And if you know, I'm a watch collector, and I love the story of
one of them is Glaschut, and the other is Eilen
and Son.
And these were
really
great watches that were made in Germany.
until the Soviet Union took over.
And all of the watchmakers fled and they went to the west.
Okay, so they all went to Switzerland and they all started making watches there.
Soon as the wall came down, they went back to those areas and now they're making these, you know, timeless brands again.
But the funny part about this is, is that is why the Russians had a hard time keeping time, literally keeping time.
They killed anybody who knew who was a watchmaker because they were part of the, you know, they were part of the upper crust that were crushing the masses.
And so they left and they killed the ones who didn't.
And forever, they had a hard time just making a watch.
Yeah, that's amazing.
And we've seen this especially in China.
I mean, China had a remarkable history of elevating one group of people to being this special class of people and then killing them all off and imprisoning them because they're the problem.
And then the educated people were the problem.
So then we have to imprison all of them and we have to kill them and we have to get them out of the way.
And then it was the farmers who were the problem.
And then it was back to the educated people.
Correct.
It's the same because it can never be them.
It can never be the people in power.
Or the ideas.
You can never impugn the ideas.
Exactly.
So
a good example of this is
the people in power can always do what they have to do, but they never hold, they never allow that to happen anyplace else.
And let me give you you an example.
Bernie Sanders, $15 an hour.
Okay.
Everybody has to do it.
And you say, Bernie, it doesn't work.
What will happen is people will either reduce the hours that those people work, which will hurt them, or they will, they'll fire people.
Tell me the story about Bernie Sanders.
This is, I think, my favorite story of this year.
I love this story.
So Bernie Sanders, a socialist, running around the country telling everybody, it's not just a good idea to have a $15 minimum wage, but it is immoral if you don't.
You're exploiting people who do not earn $15 an hour.
While he's doing this, it turns out he's not paying his own lowest wage workers $15 an hour.
He's making them work 60 hours a week for about $13 an hour, okay?
Which is just astounding in and of itself.
But the best part is 60 hours.
Yes, 60 hours shop.
Right, 60 hours.
The best part is, though, that he, the workers who are unionized, by the way, the campaign workers are unionized, they get together and they complain and they say, hey, this isn't fair.
I thought this was a living wage.
We're not getting paid a living wage, $15 an hour.
So they go to the bosses, which is now the socialist presidential candidate is now the boss negotiating with a socialist union in a presidential campaign, which is amazing.
And they say, hey.
We need more money.
Give us more money.
And they say, all right, all right.
We'll give you more money.
But only if, only if you're willing to take a cut on your health care benefits, you have to contribute more to your health care.
That's the only way we'll give you the pay raise.
Well, wait a minute.
I thought healthcare was a human right.
Isn't he a human right?
So now you have Bernie Sanders, a socialist, exploiting his own workers.
When they complain, he then tries to take away their human rights.
This is amazing.
I mean, this is the best story.
And then it gets even better because finally they come to a resolution.
I love his back.
Finally, finally it comes to a resolution.
They say, all right, guys, we'll settle on it amounts to basically $16 an hour and we're not going to cut your health care benefits because the media found out, which is a whole other thing.
The media finds out, right?
So then the next day, basically, Rashida Tlaib, another socialist from Michigan, a member of the Democratic Socialist of America, she comes out and says, you know what?
$15, that's not enough.
You got to pay $20 for a minimum wage.
$15 was good before when we started all this, but now we need $20, $20.
So Bernie Sanders, according to Rashida Tlaib and other socialists, is still exploiting his own workers.
I love that.
And with the candidates and the way the socialists are working now, it's almost like an auction.
I got 15, 15.
Do I hear 20, 20, 20, 20, 22?
Do I hear 22?
22.
Thank you, ma'am.
Do I hear 25?
I mean, it is just an auction on
who can be the highest bidder.
And the results are the same.
Did he not have to reduce everybody?
And some people quit.
I believe some people were fired, were they not?
Or their hours were reduced?
The end result was we're only going to make you work 50 hours.
And originally they wanted him to work six days a week.
They ended up settling on, well, we're working 50 hours and we'll pay you a salary.
So he's not, but.
You're not going to get what you wanted initially.
I'm sorry.
We just don't have enough money.
So we're going to have to cut hours.
We're going to have to maybe cut staff.
How is it that people
don't see, or is it just willful blindness?
I think that people, and I think we saw this with Barack Obama, and I think you see it a little bit with Bernie Sanders, maybe not quite as passionately, but people desperately want to believe in this guy.
They want to believe that there is some alternative answer that's going to fix all of our problems and that he represents that, that he's somehow above it all, which we saw that with Barack Obama.
People wanted to believe it.
They wanted to, even when all the facts pointed to something else, else, they said, I want to believe in this guy.
And I think that there are a lot of people on the left who want to believe in Bernie Sanders, even when he's, according to his own logic, exploiting his own workers and denying them human rights.
So that's ridiculous.
You have Elizabeth Warren now at times in some polls beating Bernie Sanders.
Let me take a quick break and then I want to talk to you about the socialism of Elizabeth Warren.
And how do you think this is going to play out?
They have a mutually assured destruction pact going on.
Don't say anything because because we'll just kill each other.
And
I want to get your advice on, or your thoughts on how you think this is going to play out because Bernie Sanders is not going to be the candidate.
Just not going to be the candidate.
But you're smiling at me.
Maybe you know something I don't know.
We'll get to that here in just about a minute.
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It looks like the United States is still the floatiest piece of poop in the toilet bowl.
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They say one of the problems is the trade deal, that the world has become so unstable because of the trade war we're in, that if everyone in the world isn't extraordinarily careful, catastrophic failure could happen.
Okay, I don't.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just know it's a lot like socialism.
Numbers are numbers.
Okay?
You can only fake numbers for so long.
And then
the gods of the copybook headings with blood and terror return.
I was reading yesterday that poem by Rudyard Kipling.
And it said,
you know, we listen to the gods of the marketplaces who promised us all of these wonderful things.
And then we had the promise of abundance for all.
And so we
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And what happened?
Even though we had lots of money, there was nothing our money could buy, meaning inflation.
Right now, last night, I did an episode where I talked to somebody
who
was it?
Where was she from, Stu?
Do you remember the guest I had on TV last night?
Heritage Roundation.
Yeah, Heritage Foundation.
And I asked her about this new,
what is it?
Economic modern monetary theory.
Yeah, modern monetary theory.
Did I do this interview or did you?
I don't know.
You did, yeah.
I can barely remember.
But anyway, modern monetary theory, which is basically government can print as much as it wants.
It doesn't need to borrow anymore.
song to anybody who is a socialist.
Wait, I don't have to borrow money.
We can just print it?
Yes.
This is a new
wrap package of something that is old and rotten inside.
That's hyperinflation.
That always ends in hyperinflation.
But I'm afraid there's too many people in Washington who are going to start convincing themselves this can be done, and we're all going to be the losers.
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Justin Haskins, he's the executive editor of the Heartland Institute at heartland.org.
You can follow him at Justin T.
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Welcome to the program, Justin.
It's great to be with you.
So
let's talk about the candidates.
Somebody said to me, who would you vote for if you had a gun to your head and had to vote for one of these people?
I think I might have said
Elizabeth Warren.
because she's so unlikable, I just don't think she could get anything done.
However, I don't know.
I'm surprised that she's doing as well as she is.
She has a pact with Bernie Sanders.
Are they cut from the same socialist cloth, do you believe?
Yeah, probably.
To be fair, I think that...
80% of the candidates are probably cut from the same socialist cloth.
But I think that those two, the fact that one's from Vermont, one's from Massachusetts, they've worked with each other on a lot of different things.
I think that they both have the same kind of animus towards corporations and towards banks, especially.
Elizabeth Warren is just, I mean, she hates banks.
She hates bankers.
She hates the whole financial institution, the whole financial industry.
So I do think that they are cut from the same cloth.
I think they also both know that there is no way that either of them can win while they're both in the race,
which is really important for them to understand.
If they've learned anything from what happened with Donald Trump, and I know that you guys remember the Donald Trump
primary.
What we learned from the Donald Trump primary is that one guy who has a following, a loyal following, can beat the field, even though the field, any one of those members of the field could probably beat him one-on-one.
But if you have devotions divided among that, amongst that group of people, there's no way to beat
the one person, Donald Trump.
In this case, it might be Joe Biden.
It's somebody who can classify themselves as being a little bit more moderate, a little more sane.
Maybe it's Mayor Pete.
I don't know who it is.
It's somebody like that.
If the far left wing socialist wing of that party can't rally around one person, then whoever emerges as being the so-called moderate, which isn't really going to be a moderate, but that's how they're going to classify themselves, that person is going to win.
So the socialists have to know that.
So this is all going to come down to ego.
Can they back out of the race?
Can they do it?
I mean, John Kasich was apparently mentally incapable of getting out of that race.
Right.
So there are some people who just will not get out no matter what.
Right.
Do you think Bernie Sanders is that guy?
I think Bernie Sanders would get out of the race if he had to.
I do.
Before it's too late.
Before it's too late.
But the thing with Bernie Sanders is
he has some of the most loyal, passionate people behind him.
Right.
But if he steers them to an Elizabeth Warren, he could actually make an impact
and get the nominee.
That's potentially true, but I think that Bernie Sanders, he spent a lot of time with Elizabeth Warren.
He knows how unlikable she is.
Can you imagine Elizabeth Warren being the candidate?
I mean, she's like,
she's maybe more unlikable than Hillary Clinton.
I think she has everything except the history of corruption that everybody knows.
True.
She's like grown in a lab to lose to Donald Trump, though.
She really is.
She really is.
That's why I said if I had to vote for one of them, I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren.
She's not even from a state that helps.
I mean, there's nothing about her at all that helps.
She's incredibly unlikable.
There's that stupid Native American thing that's going to follow her around forever.
She should get the Native American vote, though, at least one 1,024 for the state.
Yes, yes,
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It's going to be interesting to see what the reaction is on this one because, you know,
it's easy to keep talking about Ilan Omar and saying that there's just hateful people who are saying hateful things about her because of the color of her skin, which has literally nothing to do with this at all.
Because when you really look at the
facts of the matter,
you can make this sort of argument maybe that, well, not every single piece of it is proven.
It's why you keep saying, you know, this needs to go to a grand jury.
Parts of it, though, are proven.
And we're going to show you all the documents that do prove it.
It's just interesting to see because
you can't dismiss it after seeing all this evidence.
You can't dismiss it and say, well, this is just an attack on
the squad.
Have we ever had something
this buttoned up?
I mean, we had a lot of evidence on the Tides Foundation.
I mean, a thousand pages.
We had
a ton on George Soros,
Van Jones.
But I'm not sure we had anything this buttoned up.
Yeah,
I mean, some of it is completely buttoned up.
Right, guys.
Some of it she's.
About 60% of it is verified by people who disagree with us 100%.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's kind of because because some of that's the criminal stuff.
But even some of the crazier sort of allegations that when we started this, I was like, come on, that can't possibly be true,
is backed up by,
at the very least, massive, you know, scrolls of social media posts that indicate.
From them.
From them.
From them.
So like they're posting on their own pages that not Omar, but people in her life, other people around,
indicating that all of this is true.
And then add on to that the fact that major media organizations have gone to them and said, hey, this is weird.
What do you say to explain yourself?
And she says, nothing.
Like,
she'll say, oh, this is just a crazy attack.
Islamophobia.
And she's trying the defense of Islamophobia, but there's way too much here stacked against that.
Way too much.
And you will see it all tonight, five o'clock only on Blaze TV.
Now, she had a problem yesterday in the House.
Her and Rashida Tlaib
made a move for the BDS movement.
And the BDS movement is the boycott, divestment, and sanctions movement against Israel.
She wants to make sure that we are not supporting Israel, that we cut them off at their knees because they have stolen the land from the Palestinians.
Here is Rashida Tlaib on the BDS BDS movement.
Listen.
Our right to free speech is being threatened with this resolution.
It sets a dangerous precedent because it attempts to delegitimize a certain people's political speech and to send a message that our government can and will take action against speech it doesn't like.
Madam Speaker, the Supreme Court has time and time again recognized that expressive conduct is protected by the Constitution.
From burning a flag to baking a cake.
To baking a cake.
To baking a cake.
I can't even.
Is she really saying that she's complaining that people's voices are going away because of their political views?
She's doing that?
Yeah, she's doing that.
Yeah.
What?
I don't understand your problem.
You really don't understand.
No, I don't understand.
What are you saying?
Because it seems like I've noticed conservatives' voices being targeted for these things.
No, that's
crazy
conspiracy theorists.
And ask, I'm sure she's
against things like the fairness doctrine and others.
Of course, of course.
That is a fascinating one.
They really
may I just say, Islamophobia.
Islamophobia.
What about, what about?
Well, Islamophobia.
I mean, I think we all know that, you know, people like you are Islamophobic, and so you should be shut down and not listened to.
You should be drummed out.
You know, people like you and Robert Spencer, you know, a guy who used to, you know,
give counsel to presidents, was one of the leading scholars on Islamicists.
Not Islam, Islamicists.
And he's such an Islamophobia,
Islamophobic, according to care, that he can't even post anything on Twitter, Facebook,
YouTube.
God forbid he ever publishes a book or speaks anywhere.
So you're an Islamophobic because you didn't hear what she was saying.
No, I guess not.
She worries that people's speech is being infringed.
And again, she's like, well, this is the government cracking down on speech.
How exactly?
It's a resolution that basically did nothing.
It just said that they denounced,
they condemned the BDS movement.
Right, not shut it down.
No, it just condemned it.
We don't agree with it.
We think it's really, really bad.
I think you can make an argument that it's sort of a pointless thing to do with Congress.
They're just saying.
Hey, I don't like this thing.
Here's what I would like.
I mean, it was obviously just to get people on the record.
Correct.
Here's what I would really have liked.
This is Chuck and Nancy just a short while ago talking about the Israel boycott.
Now, listen to this.
When the world treats everybody one way and the Jew or the Jewish state another way, there's only one word for it, anti-Semitism.
Let us call out the BDS movement for what it is.
We must also be vigilant against bigoted or dangerous ideologies masquerading as policy, and that includes BDS.
Now, they both said that when they were standing at AIPAC.
They're in with the Jews, you know.
They said that when they were standing in front of AIPAC, but it would have been really interesting to hear them say that to Rashida Tlaib or to Elon Omar as they proposed this BDS
sanctions against Israel.
If I can quote Chuck Schumer, we have to call it what it is, anti-Semitism.
So
why wouldn't they call
those who propose that anti-Semitic?
I seem to remember that they also failed to call Elon Omar anti-Semitic in the past.
Which is
almost like they're afraid of care.
Almost.
It almost seems like that.
Almost.
Though it certainly can't be.
Yeah, I mean, this is not a surprise, right, from this group of congresswomen and
men who voted for it.
I think it was 17 total who voted against it.
And some, there's definitely some, there were a few Republicans who voted either against it or present because I think just the process and saying, why are we voting to condemn things like this?
Just sort of like a stance on that, although it obviously passed overwhelmingly.
You wonder if
the Democrats are going to continue to tolerate
the squad and their squad mates.
Because there is
a pretty significant movement within the Democratic Party to say, hey, you know, number one,
you're taking the four people that make us look the worst and throwing them on television 25,000 times a day and letting them lead the party.
Is that a good move if you're a Democrat?
I know if I were a Democrat, I would not want Alexandria Casio-Cortez representing my movement.
But the good news is, you're not a Democrat, and so we'll keep that to ourselves.
Well, we get to celebrate it.
Yes,
because I love it.
It is a gift that never stops.
It gives new every day.
It is like, if you go into one of those buffet places that's really good, like in one of those casinos where it's like a $50 buffet and you just eat every single little bit of it, that is the combination between the squad and the Democratic primary.
Where you have 25 socialists arguing with each other to see who can be the most socialist, and then all of them lose to the most prominent members of the party, the squad.
This is a dream.
Think about this, Glenn.
For what, a hundred years,
Republicans tried to say, you know, who are a bunch of socialists, Democrats.
And every single time until this last couple of years, they would say, well, no, they're not.
How dare that's racist?
What is socialist?
There's no socialism here.
And now the people leading their party are admitted Democratic socialists.
So
in the Mueller, the Mueller hearings today, did you hear the first congressman said, I know the Democratic and the socialists on the other side.
And nobody booed, nobody said, ah, here, here, here, out of order.
They're accepting it now.
They're just accepting it.
And it's wonderful.
It is absolutely wonderful.
Now, you will know if they have had enough of the squad.
I will tell you, if the Democrats don't clean out their own party, they will be Jeremy Corbyn's Labor Party by 2024.
Guarantee, no questions asked.
They will be so extreme, so racist, so anti-Semitic by 2024 that Jeremy Corbyn may even feel a little uncomfortable.
If they want to clean out and begin to send a message to people who are socialist radicals, hey, sit down.
Their last chance may be Ilan Omar.
Because here they have, as you will see tonight, you have felonies.
And while she deserves every opportunity to be innocent, presumed innocent until proven guilty, we're not here to prove her guilty.
We're here to show you the evidence that should be brought to a grand jury.
The Minnesota Attorney General should should be ashamed of himself or herself.
You know, look this up.
I bet you the Attorney General is a George Soros person.
Do you remember that when he put all the attorney generals in?
The SOS?
Was that the
Secretary of State project?
See if the Attorney General was funded by George Soros, I wonder.
But there's a reason.
I don't know what it is that the Attorney General in Minnesota is not going for this.
Maybe it's fear.
Maybe, I don't know.
But it's certainly not based on fact.
And we'll show you that tonight only on Blaze TV.
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Alan Omar.
Sorry.
Hello in your head again all day today.
Every week I tell you about a new cyber criminal plot that threatens your.
No, go ahead.
You found it.
I forgot.
Attorney General, Minnesota, right?
Oh, Keith Ellis.
Keith Ellison.
I forgot about that.
And by the way, he did, George Soros did donate $100,000 to Ellison's campaign.
It's Keith Ellison.
I forgot about that.
That's got to be added in tonight's program.
Yes.
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You You know, this is the Mueller report is just
like a really bad
Let's say they just took the old clips from Godfather 1, repackaged it, and said it was completely a brand new movie.
It's not.
We already know everything the Democrats are doing.
And they put older and more tired actors in it.
Yes.
So we have that going for us today.
We're talking about Elon Omar tonight on our special.
There's one thing that we want to share with you.
You know, the president is so racist because he said, we'll send you back where you came from or you could go back.
And everybody says that's racist.
Here's Ilan Omar in, I think, 2012 on Twitter.
She said, we are citizens.
She was fighting with someone about culture.
She said, we are citizens and can't be deported.
Why don't we deport you to wherever you came from?
Now, we were told by the journalists that it's automatic racism, if you say that.
Correct.
Rashida Talib also said to
deport Donald Trump.
Yep, wanted to deport Donald Trump.
I find it interesting, too, if you look back at Ilan Omar's tweets.
There's another thing she points out.
What are we here?
We always say the same thing.
We're a melting pot of cultures, right?
Not to Ilan Omar.
She actually
says no.
She says she totally disagrees that America is a melting pot of cultures.
I mean, it's hard to, she could be saying that she totally disagrees, period.
America is a melting pot of cultures.
But didn't she go on to say something about Saudi Arabia and Somalia?
The only difference is freedom of religion.
Yep, the only difference between Saudi Arabia or Somalia or Thailand.
She says the only difference is America is a freedom of religion.
We must accept that.
Freedom of speech, freedom of press.
I don't know if she caught this, but
the Saudis, you know, chopped up a journalist for saying things they didn't like.
I think that sets us apart, too, just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
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