What Would Jesus Do? | Guests: Bill O'Reilly & Charlie Kirk | 7/12/19

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You remember the case of Heidi Fleis?

She was the Hollywood madam in the early 1990s, and everyone was waiting with bated breath to find out who just might be identified in her little black book.

Most of her clients remain a mystery even today.

Fleis ended up serving some time in prison.

The curiosity regarding her clientele eventually faded.

I mean, we all know there's sleazy people in Hollywood, right?

We get that.

So the fact that one of them would call for a prostitute was not really a big shock.

It was more of slowing down on the freeway to see, you know, who was in the accident and how bad

they were going to be injured.

This is different now.

Imagine how different it would be if Fleis's operation involved human trafficking.

High-profile people in her little black book,

when it came to human trafficking and if they were political

the ground would be shaking and it is shaking but there's a new development in this story and we'll tell you all about it Jeffrey Epstein coming up in one minute this is the Glembeck program

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Heidi Fleis.

The Heidi Fleis story is

has been turbocharged now with Jeffrey Epstein.

The case is getting uglier and more weird the more we look into it.

Back in 2007, the charges brought against him were brutal.

I want you to listen to this quote.

The FBI and the U.S.

Attorney's Office determined that from 2001 to September 2007, Epstein has conspired to persuade minors to engage in prostitution, conspired to transport minors across state lines for the purpose of illicit sexual conduct, and recruited a minor across state lines to engage in a commercial sex act.

The government has everything they need to put this guy away for life.

Court documents have revealed now that Epstein was partnered with a British woman at an international model agency.

They allegedly promised girls modeling gigs as a trick to groom them into trafficking.

Law enforcement has the names of the victims, lists of several of the

accomplices, everything again they they need.

But despite what appeared at the time to be a slam-dunk case, the government chose to offer Epstein a plea deal.

They slapped him on the wrist with a lesser charge and serving minimal time.

Now, not only did this deal get him off easy, but it also

immunized him and his co-conspirators from prosecution.

Now, I don't think I've ever heard of anything like this happening before.

This was a potential of unveiling of a system of elites all over the world bartering in underage human beings, and nothing was going to happen.

No justice was going to be served.

How is this possible?

Now, the obvious thing is to say, well, this guy just has a lot of clout and a lot of power, and he gets off with a slap on the wrist after being, you know, implicated in a major child sex ring.

But I wonder

if it stops there.

Does it include just the names of the people in the little black book of associates and clients?

Can he get off with this because

he is friends with so many people and he has blackmail ability on so many important people.

I mean, how many powerful people were involved in this?

So, are they the real reason he's being able to avoid justice for these poor little girls?

Well, there's a woman that has been a journalist and been covering this case since 2003.

Her name is Vicki Ward.

She wrote an article this week that mentions something that I think

might be explosive, explosive enough to blow up a good portion of our system.

In an interview she had with a former White House official, the topic of labor secretary Alexander Acosta came up.

Now, Acosta was the U.S.

attorney in Miami that offered Epstein that ridiculous plea deal.

And everybody's saying, I've never heard of anything like this.

How could this have happened?

Now, the media is insinuating that this was because, you know, that's why Trump paid him off with this big you know with his big job because he was hiding things for Donald Trump

well the Trump transition team apparently asked Acosta about the plea deal and this is how he responded he said he was told by someone in power to back off

that Epstein was above his pay grade

I want to give this to you as an exact quote I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone.

Now, wait a minute.

Is this implying that Epstein was working with an intelligence agency as some sort of asset?

Was this sex ring being used as blackmail material for powerful people all over the world?

Is somebody in the government using and protecting someone like Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein using these girls to gain power over very powerful people all over the world?

Or maybe a high-level official,

either in the government or perhaps in the intelligence community.

Is it somebody who is listed as clientele in the little black book?

Who would tell

a state's attorney to back off, this guy is in Intel?

I know this.

This case cannot go the way of Heidi Fleis.

This case cannot just disappear.

Because when all is said and done, the ground is already shaking.

Powerful people and powerful

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They will fall.

We have to ask ourselves, do we care that much?

Are our politics more important

than

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Where are our real priorities and what does it mean?

We all know that our government is very dirty.

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We pause for 10 seconds, station ID.

I'm going to be very glad to go home.

I mean, I love New York.

It is a

great city.

I mean, it's just the access to minds and to thinking and to

everything

is just incredible in New York.

But your access to

excuse my French, and I don't think it's French, a-holes is enough.

I mean,

it's overwhelming.

Yesterday in an elevator, I wasn't in an elevator, but some friends were in an elevator,

and

they had a five-year-old and a nine-year-old.

Now, they have eight kids, and they were all out running around all day with these kids.

They get into the elevator of this hotel, and two of the kids take and push three extra buttons, okay?

And they're like, stop it, stop it.

And so the kids stop.

Now, as the elevator doors are closing, a woman sticks her hand into the elevator and opens the doors again.

And the guy, my friend, said immediately,

just so you know, kids pushed some extra buttons here.

So if you want to take another elevator, you might.

And the woman gets in and she just does this.

So their first response is, oh, no, not a problem.

You know, I got kids.

I know what it's like.

No, uh-uh.

Oh.

So she stands there and they stop at the first floor.

It opens, it closes, they continue on.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, this is so irritating, she says to herself.

So my friend's wife says,

wow, some people's lives are really...

really

hard.

That's when the woman turns around and says,

you know, I have children.

And so my friend tries to lighten things up and says, oh, so then you

understand.

I mean, kids do stupid stuff sometimes.

And she says, no,

I have children and I taught them not to do things like this.

First of all, really,

did you?

You're perfect little angels.

Now, if I were on the elevator, I would have started engaging right now.

My friend does not engage.

When she says, I taught them not to touch the buttons, oh, and she turns around.

That's when my friends just start to laugh.

And she doesn't say anything except a few more grunts.

Then the elevator doors open.

Now, this is the third time it has opened.

They only pushed three extra buttons, so she's got an extra floor to go, but they're getting off on this floor.

And as they get off, they say, we're really sorry for the hassle.

And

as they're walking out of the elevator,

she says loudly, and yet you laugh about this as if it is no big deal.

Now, that's when my friend puts his hand in the elevator to stop the elevator door from closing.

And he told me last night, he said, Glenn, I had a choice.

I could

either tell her exactly what I was thinking, or I could be Christ-like.

So when I said to him last night,

please tell me you didn't choose Christ.

Please tell me this is the one time you said, you know, Jesus, I'm not going your way.

And he said, no,

I chose Christ.

And I said, you know, I'm really sorry.

We apologize to you.

You know, we're sorry that this has affected your day.

And I said,

you're pathetic.

You're pathetic.

This is when my son chimes in, who is really good at accents.

I'm not.

He's really good at accents.

He does a really good Scottish accent.

And

he said

immediately, I would have said, don't get your tit in a ringer.

I said, boy, you know,

we should have been on that elevator with you because

I would have looked at her.

I would have had a few choice words for her.

And then I looked at my son and I looked at Rafe.

And I said, I just would have looked at you and shook my head.

And what would you have done?

And he said, as you are walking out, Dad, I would have hit all of the buttons on the elevator.

That's what you're supposed to do.

Okay.

I know Jesus is wonderful, but there were no elevators with crappy people in them at the time of Jesus.

So elevators don't count on the Christ-like time.

I just want to throw that out there.

I might be wrong.

I have to admit, I was hoping for the, I was hoping for the, no, I ignored everything I've ever been taught in lesson two, yeah.

Because I would have

gone

crazy.

I wouldn't have been nice, would not have been nice.

No.

Although I will say, I mean, the first lesson I taught every one of my children, and I reinforce this year after year, don't touch the elevator buttons.

That was, you know,

the uppermost thing in my mind.

And I can't believe

it in these parents' minds.

No, it was.

They've taught their children that, and their children just do.

They did it anyway.

Do you remember, Pat?

Tanya and I wanted to buy a piano.

We ended up buying like a thousand dollar piano, okay?

Because none of us really play.

But we had this dream that we were all going to learn, you know, and we had two young children, and so we're going to learn and we get a piano.

And I said, Well, let's get a good piano.

Let's, let's, you know, can we look at Steinways?

Now, I've never, I don't know what a Steinway cost.

I thought like, you know, I don't know, maybe 10,000, maybe 10,000.

No, no, no.

No.

They're about $125,000.

They can be as high as half a million.

And

so we walk into the Steinway place and Tanya's like, Glenn, these are really expensive.

And I'm like, let's just look, you know?

And so I go in there and I'm looking at just like a black one.

Okay.

There's nothing special about.

It's just a black piano.

And I said, so how much is how much is this one?

She said oh, this is $125,000.

And I wanted to say, does it cook me breakfast too?

Or what else does it do besides

play music?

Yeah, and does it play music on its own?

She looked at me like I was a Cretan.

I'm like, for $125,000, I should be able to say, hey, play something nice.

And the piano should play something nice, okay?

Without anybody sitting there, unless somebody from Steinway would like to sit in the little chair, maybe that comes with it.

For $125,000, maybe a little person comes that can play the piano, too.

No.

So she's telling me, but we can make these any way you want.

And she's showing me all these, you know, inlaid pianos that are like 250,000.

Now I'm kind of getting into it.

I'm not, I have no intention of buying one.

I'm just like, I'm just looking at how stupid these pianos could become.

And

so, you know, but you're doing what you always do when you're way out of your league.

You pretend there's a possibility that we might buy it, but we're going to have to go away and talk about it first.

So I'm pretending that I'm very interested.

And I said, so what do you do, you know, like, do you, can you put the little lock on the keyboard thing, you know?

And she looked at me like I was a Cretan and she said, no.

I said, well, you could put anything on these pianos.

We don't put little locks on the keyboard.

And I said, well, how do you keep your kids?

I've got, you know, three-year-olds.

How do you get them from, you know, pounding on the keys?

She said,

you tell them that it is a Steinway.

Oh!

I didn't think of that.

My God.

I didn't think of that at all.

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We have Laura on the phone.

Hello, Laura.

Welcome.

Hi.

Your stories about the Steinway and the elevator are so funny and typical because I used to work in Manhattan and that's why I'm not anymore because all they are is angry want to control and if you don't laugh you're going to become like them so oh I know

I know it's it's why I moved one of the reasons why I moved out of New York you're you're surrounded by people and not everybody I mean there's a lot of normal hardworking people but there's a lot of people who are just living in an entirely different world

that they control, that they think that they control, can control.

Yeah.

And you can't.

And everything else.

Yeah.

Everything outside of them is just a nuisance.

And it's not worth it.

I mean, people who, my son used to work at this store called Bergdorf Goodman's.

If you're from New York, you know it.

It's a very elite store.

Well, people would take their giant dogs in while they're shopping and their dogs would take a crap.

And then they would look at the store person like, You're going to clean that up, aren't you?

And it was part of the policy: if whatever, the customer is always right.

So, you just don't say anything about the dog taking a giant crap, you just go clean it up.

And it's insanity, it's just insanity.

Thanks for your call, Laura.

Um, I will tell you this: I've been going because I had father-daughter dates every night with

my daughters, my wife, and my grandchild.

And so I get in dressed, get all dressed up, and I take my kids out one at a time.

And because it's a family tradition now, don't start this tradition.

It never ends.

When it started spreading to my granddaughter, I'm like, wait, that wasn't part of the deal.

Anyway, so

I was going to a different show every night.

And let me just give you a couple of, if you're thinking about coming to New York, whatever you do, don't see frozen.

Don't see it.

Now, I know you don't need that advice, you know, of let it go.

Just let it go.

I know you don't need that advice, but in case you're thinking about it, it's like Disney has just given up.

It's like Disney is like, they'll buy anything.

I mean, they'll pay money to see anything.

And then when they get into that room and they're trapped, we're going to sell them.

We're going to sell them some gloves for 35 bucks that aren't even in the movie.

They're just used on the stage and then the kids are going to beg and I got those gloves and they'll buy them anyway.

It's a torture chamber.

That's what Frozen is.

It's a torture chamber.

Then the next night I went to see Beautiful,

which is

my daughter wanted to see it.

I had seen it in Los Angeles.

It's the story of Carol King.

I love Carol King's music and her backstory of when she was writing music.

I mean, she's written so many famous songs that you had no idea that she had any

part of.

And it's a great story, but it's,

I don't know, maybe it was, I was still pissed off about Frozen.

Then

we went to Moulin Rouge.

How I didn't see this one coming.

Moulin Rouge is a movie.

It's one of my favorite movies.

I really love it because Boz Luhrman is, he's a genius and it's a really risky movie that you either love or you hate.

And

it's not like Princess Bride.

Princess Bride is a movie that people either get it or they don't.

And if you don't get it, I'm not friends with you.

Okay.

This is, it's one of those things.

You could be on a first date.

Before you even spend a dime at dinner, you just say, hey, I'm here to pick you up.

And

you like Princess Bride?

If they say no, say, good luck to you.

Good luck.

Okay.

And move on.

This is a movie that says to me, we're friends,

but how friendly are we?

If you don't get this movie and you don't see the beauty in it, eh, okay, we're friends, but we're never going to be really close.

I went to see the show with my daughter because she really wanted to see it, Hannah.

And I'm in the theater and it's nothing but stage stuff and an excuse for Broadway to dress men as women.

That's really all this is.

It's like, hey, we can do anything now.

Okay, great.

That's fantastic.

And it's a beautiful stage and blah, blah, blah, but it's just...

It's relentless.

And

it's going to run on Broadway forever.

It's already a hit.

It hasn't really even officially opened.

And it's just because it is the

elite saying, we hate everything about America.

That's all it is.

And so, and I'm sitting there, and one of the elites is looking at me.

I think I told this story earlier.

One of the elites is sitting there and she's just looking at me and her husband is staring us down.

And I know it's because she either hates me because she recognizes me or she thinks I'm like a Jeffrey Epstein who is you know dating this 20 year and she's just looking at me like oh you are sick dating that 20 year old woman you know and as I watch her I you know I kind of like I kind of cuddle up to my daughter like hey yeah um and And so then she says to me at the intermission, and

I chose the Christ-like route,

and I didn't, you know, say the things I wanted to say, like, yeah, yeah, no, this is my hot date.

She's 25, and she is great in the sack.

Instead, when the lady says, so tell me, is this a special date?

I said, yeah,

it's a father-daughter date.

She changes and she's like, oh, that's wonderful.

And then she goes into her elitism and says, so what have you seen this season?

And I said, well, I'm not from here.

So, you know,

nothing.

And she said, oh, well, I mean, this season, what have you seen?

And I'm like, okay, well, this week I saw Frozen, which was like a dagger to her.

And I looked at her and she was like, oh, oh, my gosh.

And I said, it was horrible, right?

She said, oh, yes.

Now, I don't even think she saw it.

She just knew.

She didn't need to be told, let it go.

It's the one time I've ever agreed with somebody who is an elite in New York.

And then I said, you know, and then we saw Carol King and she was was like, oh, that's not even music.

And then I really put the dagger in her heart.

I said, and I'm going to see Wicked with my one of my younger daughters.

And

she

almost started vomiting at that moment.

But I will tell you, I went to Wicked, and it's a great story.

If you've never seen it, it's worth it.

It's closing this year.

It's really a great story.

But a couple of things happened.

First of all, that's where my people are.

My people are at Wicked.

And they were so great.

As I walked in, I saw a bunch of people and they were just, they would look at me like, and they'd just smile.

They'd be like, yeah, how you doing?

And I just looked back.

I'm doing good.

And so we'd walk through and people would come up to me and they would say, I know you're on your father-daughter date.

We just wanted to say hi.

It was so cool.

Everybody was so cool.

Just so cool.

But I'm sitting there and because we're in New York, I go everywhere with a protector.

And so this guy is sitting next next

to us.

He's the chief of our detail, and he's sitting right next to us.

And about halfway through, I said, what do you think?

And, you know, this is a guy who, you know, is pretty good at killing people.

I mean, that's what his job was

in the special forces.

And so he's, you know.

He's not exactly the guy who usually goes to Broadway.

And I said, what do you think?

And he said,

I have no idea what's going on.

And I'm thinking,

if you can't follow this one, dude, you know, maybe you shouldn't be the

gun.

Is that bad or good?

And

so I said, you don't understand it.

And he said, well, you know, my childhood.

And he had a really tragic childhood.

He said, so I never watched any TV and I never seen any movies.

So I've never seen The Wizard of Oz.

And that was just such a bizarre concept to me i'm thinking i mean i think osama bin laden saw the wizard of oz

how did you not you didn't see the wizard of oz and i'm trying to explain it to him in two minutes before the second half starts and i'm like okay so uh a little girl she's got a dog named toto she she's think how crazy this sounds picked up by a tornado and her house crashes down on a witch and her shoes are taken because she's got to go on the yellow brick road and the lady comes down down in a bubble and she gives her the shoes but she doesn't know the power of the shoes and the and the other witch's feet curl up underneath the and then they get on and they meet a scarecrow and he's like what the hell and the curtain's starting to come up okay

it was

bizarre bizarre I still think

I still think if you haven't seen the Wizard of Oz I don't

I don't trust you entirely because you might be a spy.

And I don't know who you're spying for because, again, I think even the enemies of our state have seen the freaking Wizard of Oz.

So

as I'm sitting there and I'm talking to one of the elites at Moula Rouge, she says, Oh, those of you seen, I said, What would you recommend?

And she said, Oh, you've got to go to Hadestown.

And I'm thinking to myself, I think she just told me to go to hell.

You've got to see Hades Town.

And I said,

hate Hades Town.

town and she said

yes it's the Greek myth

okay

about

Orpheus

you know Orpheus and uh

uh Persephone and I want to say to her it's Persephone okay

it's Persephone

But but I didn't and I'm I was like you know when she said it's Orpheus and the Greek I just went oh yeah yeah like I've been reading,

like I was just reading that in the bathroom before I got here.

So we went to it last night because we did some research on it.

And Tanya and I went to it last night.

It is worth every penny that you would pay.

If I would have seen that the first night, I would have taken my children to that every single night.

And I thought, you know, we went with some friends,

the one who chose the Christ-like, you know, attitude on the elevator.

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they said, Do you know anything about this?

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they said, so do you know anything about this?

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I don't think this is a safe zone.

And

it was...

It was clean the entire way through.

It was really, really,

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Iran seems hell-bent on a war with the United States.

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Also, the big story was Jeffrey Epstein.

And this is seemingly working out really well for Donald Trump, I think.

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Are you?

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So I didn't have to do it.

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Anyway,

how are you doing, Bill?

I'm the same, which is tragic for everyone.

You know that.

Were you always, as a kid, were you miserable?

No,

I was a happy kid, Jerry Mathers-like, a beaver cleaver kind of kid.

Really?

I did beat up Wally on a regular basis.

Yeah.

What happened to you, Bill?

I mean, you had great six shoes, but you're very popular,

and yet you're just a get-off-my-lawn kind of guy.

No, no, I like the urchins on the lawn.

It's just anybody over 25 can't go on the lawn.

No, I'm a realist, and just looking at the world the way it is is a little draining these days.

Yes, it is.

So, Bill, I want to talk to you about Jeffrey Epstein.

First of all, do you know him?

Do not.

Okay.

It seems everybody in circles, yeah.

I mean, look.

No,

I know that.

I had dinner with a guy last night who's a friend of his.

And I didn't know that.

I mean, I was talking to this guy about other things.

He's a political player.

But this guy,

he ran in a lot of circles that merge entertainment with politics.

There's a guy named Ron Burkle out in Los Angeles.

He does that.

They basically are very wealthy people with a fleet of private jets.

They ferry people around the world

for various reasons.

I am, as you know, a guy who doesn't comment unless I really know what happened.

But I can tell you this.

They have so much on this guy, they being the feds in Manhattan and the

lower Manhattan, the Southern District.

You know, he's looking at probably 15 to 20, and they'll get him.

I will tell you, Bill,

he'll die in prison, I bet,

at that point.

I will tell you, being in Manhattan this week, everyone, everyone is talking about it in the upper circles.

Everyone

is talking about it.

Yeah, they're trying to link politicians into him.

I did look at that vis-a-vis President Trump.

I talked to an attorney in southern Florida who is very conversant with the victims down there coming forth.

Now, there is a court filing on the record that says that Trump in the early 2000s expelled Epstein from Amor-a-Lago.

That's on the record.

I have to tell you, Bill,

I think that Donald Trump not only is looking good in this because of that, he immediately expelled Epstein from his club when he found out he had preyed on a

woman, a teenager,

and immediately expelled.

They're trying to tie it into him, but

I think there's a strong possibility,

even though he's been with Epstein before, that he is clean on this.

I'm going to go a step further.

I would love to hear your opinion on

that this may have actually kind of been pushed by Donald Trump in some way because, you know, they say they say, what is his name, Acosta, is,

you know, pardon him.

Did you see what the reporter actually said that's not getting a lot of play?

The reporter said, the one who started this and been following it since the early 2000s.

This is the Miami Herald reporter.

Yes, and she came out this week and she said

what people really need to understand is

he was asked about this by the Trump campaign.

You know, how did you give this sweetheart deal?

And he said that it was because he was told by

the politically elite above him that

to leave it alone, the guy was an intelligence operative.

Now, I don't believe that he was an intelligence operative.

Yeah, I can't comment on any of that because I haven't been able to confirm it, and I'm not really working the story hard.

Um it not that I just have other things to do.

But I think that in America it is true if you are a billionaire, you can spread money around and get lenient treatment in our criminal justice system.

I believe that's true.

I believe that uh people who make that accusation are accurate.

I've seen it myself,

and uh it's very bad.

And if anything comes up, they are looking at the division that is the division that is working with the FBI

on this and

the

southern New York officials

is the

corruption division.

Yes, that's the right thing.

So it's not just the corruption.

Right.

It's a very good observation, Deck.

It's not the rank and file prosecutors.

It's the ⁇ And it's not the sex crimes division only.

Right.

It's public integrity.

So I don't think there's any doubt that you're going to see more on this story and that it may have a chilling impact on the Democratic Party because it seems that they were far more involved with Epstein than the Republican Party.

However, that's speculation.

So now let me ask you this.

Doesn't this show a pattern of the Democrats that they're going to start to have a hard time?

If this comes out and there are big Democrats involved in this,

aren't they going to have a hard time with the Me Too movement seeing that one of their big donors was Harvey Weinstein and everyone knew about him?

And the other one on this coast was Jeffrey Epstein.

And everyone, they called his plane the Lolita Express.

Everyone knew it, and they still took money and invited him and tolerated him.

What does that say about the.

well is a division, okay?

And there always has been a division.

So there are

sincere people

who

believe that American society tolerates behavior that it shouldn't.

And they have a right to go out and make their case in the strongest possible way.

But there are other people who use these cases for political reasons and witch hunt it.

And we saw that with Kavanaugh.

That is the most dangerous example that I can give anyone of how you take an injustice and then compound it a hundred times by a far larger injustice.

It's a new book out by Molly Hemingway that gets into Dr.

Ford.

I'm not, I didn't check out Hemingway's research, so I'm not going to repeat it.

But I said from the very beginning, this was a witch hunt that almost destroyed Kavanaugh and his family.

Kamala Harris drove it.

Corey Booker drove it.

The New York Times drove it.

So they used a legitimate issue, okay, and just spun it around to destroy political opponents.

So that this is a very complicated issue that Americans should think about very seriously.

When I see this Kamala Harris, I see what she did in that Kavanaugh hearing, okay, I could never vote for her for anything, ever.

This is a dangerous woman.

So you

let's let's change this subject slightly and talk about what we should be talking about.

We should be looking for the predators.

But the injustice of these women,

I've had people come and say, well, I don't know if I believe it.

I mean, why wouldn't they come out and say it?

Oh, I don't know.

The guy was friends with everyone.

He was a billionaire.

Everyone, you think they're going to believe you over the voice of a former president

who's like, no, Jeffrey's a good guy.

They're not going to believe you.

And so

this hurts

by not.

exposing this and not going all the way on this, this hurts anyone who has been a victim of sexual abuse because it just reinforces they're not going to believe you.

Well,

the federal government,

if they did indeed botch the original case in Florida, as the Miami Herald contends, and it looks like the evidence

costs out.

It's pretty overwhelming.

Yeah, it costs us out.

So it looks like that happened.

The federal government is trying to right that wrong now, and that's a good thing.

But if you know history, you know that powerful people in politics and entertainment, particularly, have gotten away with an unbelievable stuff

because they have the money and

the access to

do whatever they wanted to do.

I think the question is.

Yeah, that was going to say that's the real question.

Is this.

Everything is coming to an end now, and that's a good thing.

I think that's great.

That's a very good thing.

Thank you.

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and I think you went to Germany.

Were you over in England at all?

No, I was not in England.

I went to Germany and Austria, combination business, pleasure.

And I wrote a brilliant column, and I hope you read it, called The Party.

Oh, my gosh, did I ever?

Okay.

I've read it.

And while I was in Germany,

I had very high-level meetings.

I love those high-level meetings.

And I did a very astute analysis of the tax system there,

which is what the Democratic Party wants here.

But they won't tell you.

I wish you weren't.

I really wish you weren't as humble as you are.

You know, I have to say these things.

I'm like Trump in that regard, to get your attention.

because you're all

drift away.

You drift away.

No, I am my.

But I get you back.

All right.

That's right.

Okay, so what was the point of this beautifully wonderful, best-written piece of all time?

What was the point?

The point is that...

Okay, I'm in Munich, Germany, and Munich could be in any state, USA, minus the language in the old buildings.

People live exactly the same in there as we live in the United States.

They have a BMW.

They live in small homes or apartments, not expansive like some people live here, but they go to work, they work hard, they're industrious, and after their weekly paycheck, they have no money left over.

Nothing.

Okay, the government takes everything.

They keep them in beer and cigarettes.

You can have your little wine.

You can have your BMW.

You can have your little later hosen, whatever you want, but you can't have anything left over to put in the bank and invest.

And that makes it impossible for German workers to improve their status.

So your son and grandson, it's going to be the same as you, all right, because the government takes it all.

And I break it down so that even Stu could understand it.

I mean, I just, it was amazing to me.

And I had a guide, I hired a guide who was like furious about this.

And of course, the underground economy, cash that they don't declare, is all over the Germany, all over it.

So, you know what's weird, Bill, is

you started out, I was listening, you started out saying, you know, this is the same thing that's happening here in America.

I don't know if you saw the Washington Post story from David Montgomery on AOC's chief of change,

and he's talking about a meeting between her

chief of staff and

Sam Ricketts.

Is this a millionaire?

No, no, no.

Okay, that's

not behind her.

Right, but this is the this is uh uh, what's his name, Sycott Chakrabarty,

who

is her sugar daddy when it comes to politics.

He is chief of staff.

He helped her get elected, et cetera, et cetera.

He was meeting with the climate director for the Washington governor, Jay Inslee.

And

it's an article about their conversation, and it is amazing.

Chakrabarty had an unexpected disclosure.

He said, the interesting thing about the new Green Deal, this is a quote, it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.

Ricketts greeted the startling notion with a tended poker face.

Did you guys think of it as a climate thing?

Because we really think of it as a how you change the entire economy thing.

And it goes into how they are talking.

And it's, it's, I don't know if this is written as a bad thing or not.

It's the Washington Post, but it's horrifying where they're just talking about, yeah, you know, we cloaked it as a climate thing, but it really has nothing to do with that.

And Inslee's people say, well, I know, and it's good because it included the climate, which we have to do, but this whole system needs to be destroyed.

We need to end the free market.

And it's amazing how open they are.

Just this week, France passed a tax on anyone flying out of that country.

Got to pay 18 euros, which is about 25 bucks, just to leave on a plane.

All right, and they say this is the environmental tax.

Now, you look at France and you go, this isn't going to do anything for the environment at all, anywhere.

This is just another sneaky way to take as much money as you can from anybody on your soil.

So that's what's happening here.

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By the way, Bill, it's nice of you.

I'm sure I'm going to see you tonight at Carnegie Hall, where my daughter is performing.

Very, very nice.

Very impressive.

I hope she does well.

I'm out here in Eastern Long Island staring at the ocean right now.

But if I were closer,

I would certainly come in.

It's not like I'm asking you to come across the country.

I mean, she's performing.

Now, when I say she's performing,

she was kind enough not to say, you know, she said, please don't put my name even in the title.

In fact, tuck me into the back, you know, of one of, you know, in one of just any row of

giant choir.

So she doesn't, you know, she didn't want to stop.

So you probably.

Listen, if you haven't been to Carnegie Hall, the listeners haven't been there.

It's at probably the most iconic concert hall in the country.

And so anybody performing there will remember that the rest of their life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just thought as a friend you should be there back to me.

And back if you were

earlier, I certainly would have gone, but you didn't.

Oh, I know.

I know.

I know.

You're too busy.

You're, you know, I'm like an afterthought on Fridays.

You know,

no heads up.

That's fine.

No big deal.

No big deal.

No big deal.

You know, there's two performances tomorrow as well.

But anyway,

let's talk a little bit about Iran.

What the hell is happening with Iran?

Do they want war?

No, I don't think they want war, but they're trying to.

This is called

saber-rattling Wag the Dog.

You know, there was a movie called Wag the Dog with Dustin Hoffman.

Their economy is so bad and the people are so restive

that the mullahs are really frightened they're going to be overthrown.

And the only way

they see that they can keep their power is to, you know,

inflame some kind of conflict with America and the West and Israel so that the Iranian people, the Persian people say, oh, yeah, they're the bad guys and they're the fault.

That's why we have a terrible economy.

It's them.

This is what it is.

And so

to me,

the Iranians are going to go up to a line and they'll stop.

But if they don't stop, I can guarantee you that Donald Trump will launch some bombings in that country and, you know, put a hurt on them pretty quickly.

Yeah, the press is trying to make Donald Donald Trump into a warmonger.

He's been against every war that we have fought in the Middle East, I think, forever.

Biden.

He's a guy who wants war.

Biden is trying to use this.

Keep your eye on Biden.

Biden is a really interesting guy.

They're setting they, the radical left,

which despises Biden, wants him out of the race.

They're setting Biden up to be a racist.

They did it again this week,

that Biden doesn't like blacks and his voting record in the Senate was anti-black.

You're going to see that thrown at him in the next debate.

But Biden, to counter, is basically saying, I'm the smart guy on foreign policy.

I'd get back into the Paris Peace Accords on global warming, and I would get back to negotiating with the Iranians and get everything back calmed down like we had it under the Obama administration.

That's where Biden is.

And that's why the left.

Right.

And that's why the left doesn't like him because they really are a burn it to the ground.

Let's start our final, you know, socialist state.

And they don't see him as an agent of change.

They see him

like a macron.

Yeah, where is this going to be more of a flame?

And that's who Biden is.

Biden doesn't want to burn the system down.

The system gave Biden $15 million in the last two years.

And

Biden, I used to track Biden's charitable giving, which were nothing.

In 2016,

he and his wife gave $5,000 to charity.

I mean, it's ridiculous.

But as soon as he figured out he might want to run again, then he gave a mill.

The next year in 17, he kicked a million at charity.

He was, come on, Joey, you're trying to figure it.

But anyway, Biden doesn't want to burn the system down because Biden has exploited the system to the nth degree.

Right.

However,

Biden is going to come now as the statesman, and I can make the world like America again, and I can deal with the mullahs, and I I can deal with climate change and all this.

So that's where he's going.

Well, I have to tell you,

I think if they don't go with Biden, they don't really have a chance.

And if they do go with Biden, I don't think they have a chance, only because I don't think the left is going to rally around Joe Biden.

They are the ladder.

I think a bargain is going to be made fairly early that it's going to be Biden-Harris ticket.

Okay?

And then Biden is going to tell the chieftains of the Democratic Party, I'm only going to do one term, and you're going to get Kamala.

Okay?

That's what I think is going to happen.

Now, they'll never admit it.

You'll never see it.

But I am almost positive that's how it goes.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Okay?

That makes sense.

Kamala gets the second,

and then Biden is going to do one term and then go back to Biden Land, which is in Delaware.

So help me out on how this is ⁇

help me out on how this is going to play out, though.

I mean, right now, it is out and out war with AOC and Nancy Pelosi.

But it's not.

Because

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has no power at all, none, zero.

She can't do anything other than get media attention.

Okay?

I mean, if you think that she has power, then you think Whoopi Goldberg has power.

It's the same thing.

Cortez will be on the view within five years.

I can guarantee it.

Yes, true.

All right?

Yes, true.

So she has no power.

However,

she is a cultural icon right now with many on the left.

So what?

Nancy Pelosi?

Culture leads politics.

You know that.

Culture leads politics.

Beck, you're out of your mind.

This is so ridiculous.

This whole thing is contrived.

Nancy Pelosi has all the power in the House of Representatives because she says to the Democrats, unless you vote the way I want you to, we're not going to give you any money to run for re-election.

You've got to run every two years.

So 90% of the Democrats say, yeah, Nancy, I need your money.

I'll do anything you want.

Anything.

That's how it's run.

There are four that don't need her money.

Ocasio-Cortez doesn't need a dime from the Democratic infrastructure because Hollywood and the far-left loons will fund her.

And the other three,

Omar, whatever their names, the Muslim ladies, they don't need her.

So they can say whatever they want.

All right?

But they don't have.

I agree with you.

Wait, wait, wait.

Bill, I agree with you on all of this, but you're out of your mind if you don't think that they are a cultural icon now for the Uber left and especially those under 30.

This is

culture.

that's a sliver of the American people.

They can't look, when Ocasio-Cortez says that we have concentration camps on the southern border while I'm standing in the middle of Dachau, okay,

Americans know this is insane.

Now, is there a cadre of people that follow what she says and believe it?

Yes, but it's maybe two percent she has no power she's not going to ever do anything in the american government she's just there to promote herself like megan rapino they're the same person okay yeah yeah and and she'll be gone so what pelosi does is give her power pelosi's bestowing power on her by by engaging just ignore her who cares the way what she votes she's a nut All right?

Judge

is insane.

And the press, of course, loves it.

So here's, let me go back to this

Washington Post article.

They talk about the Ocasio-Cortez's guy and Ricketts, who is with Inslee.

And

they talk about, I like to show my cards and see the people's reactions.

I wanted to get a sense of where they're coming from.

They seem open and hungry and want to do stuff.

He's talking about people.

In my mind, an ideal situation is we have a president surrounded by a bunch of people who are constantly thinking we could go bigger, bolder, faster.

I don't know if Inslee is going to be president, which he's not, but if he runs a really good campaign, maybe he ends up running a big agency with the mindset he's going to bring something big.

He said, We've got a completely different theory of change, which is you do the biggest, most badass thing you possibly can, and that will excite people, and then they're going to vote.

Because the reality is, our problem isn't that more people are voting Republican than Democrat.

Our problem is most people who would vote Democrat aren't voting because they don't have a vision for America.

So, their idea is people are getting primed for change on both sides.

And I believe this to be true.

They're being primed that this system doesn't work and we've got to change.

Now, I would say we've got to reset back to our Constitution, et cetera, et cetera.

But others will say, no, we're going to, you know what, we're going to

do clean jobs and we're going to have this big, big vision.

And a lot of people, because it will be culturally acceptable, will go in that direction.

And that's the power of AOC.

If the media didn't prop her up, she wouldn't have anything.

Jay Inslee is

polling at 0.7%.

He won't even get over 1%.

The American public, by and large, do not want radical people in power.

That's not going to change anytime soon.

Okay?

So they can huff and puff and blow the house down,

but it's not going to matter.

This is a totally media-driven phenomenon, this Locasio-Cortez.

A hundred percent.

All right.

Her district, if you go to her district, I mean, she's got 16,000 votes.

It's crazy.

But there is the danger

if Americans, good people,

bail out of the system.

And then go to their machines of which they're addicted and did spend their whole life on their computers and their smartphones, then incrementally

this will take on a threat, but it's not there now.

Okay, real quick, I just want to ask you this.

You know, we had the ambassador of Great Britain say horrible things about Donald Trump, and then he quit, which he should have.

You know, an ambassador needs to be a diplomat.

But when you're looking at the future and it looks like Boris Johnson may be the next prime minister, Boris Johnson could be Donald Trump's Margaret Thatcher.

I think they'd make a good team together.

I don't know.

I'm not worried that way,

but all I know is there will be many discussions about hair, okay, between Trump and Boris.

There's going to be a lot of hair stuff going on.

There'll be a lot of yes.

Yeah, they're both blonde.

It's both kind of out of control.

It's going a lot of different directions.

So they have a lot of.

Okay, well,

that's an analysis that you would only get from Bill O'Reilly, the analysis that you would never expect.

Bill O'Reilly, thank you so much.

All right.

Always a pleasure, guys.

Thanks for having me in.

All right.

Thank you.

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You know, you and Bill were talking about the pay gap

and Megan Rapino from the soccer team is making such a big deal out of it.

Now,

are you aware that the U.S.

women's soccer team a couple years ago, this was in 2017, played a male team in Dallas, FC Dallas.

They came to Dallas and they played FC Dallas.

A men's team.

They played a male team.

Well, okay, by men, I mean under 15.

These are 13 and 14-year-old boys.

And they played this male team.

Please tell me.

And lost 5-2.

Not just lost, they were crushed 5-2 by

14-year-old boys.

Now, the Christ-like part of me would say,

I don't know.

I don't know what the Christ-like part of me would have me say.

And because I'm not really searching real hard on what Christ would say about this, but the Glenn part of me would say,

yes.

I know.

I couldn't believe when I when I heard this story, I'm like, okay, make sure.

Please tell me that's true.

Please look it up and find it on it.

It's in Newsweek.

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Tuning up for a game against Russia.

They played FC Dallas under 15 Boys Academy.

Oh, my God.

And lost 5-2.

Can I tell you something?

This is why there's not equal pay in that particular

field.

Who wants to go see that?

Nobody.

If they're being beaten by 13-year-old boys, I can go see that on a Saturday for free with with my kids.

I know.

And

it kind of explains the revenue.

You know, the revenue for the men's World Cup was $6 billion.

The revenue for the women's World Cup was $131 million.

There's a disparity there.

And it's kind of tough to overcome.

Maybe if we have them.

Maybe if they are wearing something kind of,

you know, scantily clad and they're kissing each other,

more men would go.

But I think that's wrong, and Jesus would not want that to happen.

No, he would not.

No.

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Well, the president had a social media summit at the White House, and it's being spun

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And what really happened, Charlie Kirk was there at the White House

while this was going on.

We will find out what happened at that meeting, who was there, why they were chosen, and what the solution is.

He's got a great op-ed

that came out a couple of days ago or yesterday about how to fix the social media platforms, and that is to treat them as publishers, which they are.

You start to edit.

You're not a platform.

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You're a publisher.

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He's right about this.

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Charlie Kirk is a best-selling author.

He was featured in Forbes magazine The 30 Under 30 in 2018.

He's the youngest speaker ever at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

He is an Eagle Scout.

He started Turning Point USA, which

is now one of the biggest grassroots organizations with 1,200 high school and college campuses nationwide blanketed.

150 full-time staff, and he's 24 years old.

This guy is quite amazing.

Welcome to the program, Charlie Kirk.

Thank you so much for having me, Glenn.

Great honor.

Thank you.

So, you know, Charlie, I posted something that you wrote to me when I was at Fox and you were like 17 and you say, I'm speaking at tea parties and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I read some of the comments after, and you have a lot of people that don't like you.

And you tweeted something about me a couple of weeks ago.

And

I'm reading the comments underneath that.

And there's a lot of people that don't like me.

You're a very controversial person as I am.

Tell me what you feel like you are doing and why your work is important.

Well, again, thank you for having me on the show.

It's always a great honor.

I mean, the kind of the main big picture of what I'm trying to accomplish and what we're trying to do at Turning Point USA is try to continue the most successful experiment in human history, which is the American experiment.

There's no guarantee that this is going to continue.

The Constitutional Republic that

we're still enjoying to this day, but seems to be crumbling around us, there's no guarantee that

this experiment will still be successful.

And my focus is primarily on college and high school students that are not necessarily opposed to our ideas, that they're never exposed to them at all in the first place.

And it is putting forth the ideas of individual liberty, limited government, constitution, American exceptionalism,

the ideas that were really birthed and rooted in the Scottish Enlightenment that have allowed the greatest civilization ever to exist in the history of the world, to have that permission to exist.

And it draws some critics, some people on the left and some people on the right that

might not seem to think that there is a sense of urgency to save the country right now.

And that's perfectly fine.

That's how you know you're making a difference, and you know that better than anybody else.

But the main thesis of what what we're doing is that there's an entire generation that instead of being thankful that they're living in America, they're angry that they're living in America.

And

there's no way you can make an argument that is healthy for our country or for our society.

So, Charlie, you were at this meeting at the White House where the president brought in some

social media people, and the press is saying that these people are very controversial, and some of them are.

Who was there, and why, and how were these people chosen?

Well, I was there.

Our good friend Lilo Rose was there from Live Action.

Our friends from Prague University were there, Heritage Foundation.

And there were some people that I haven't met before, and I've seen some of their content online, definitely more in the creative space.

But what I think is really promising about the kind of conservative movement is we don't all have to agree.

We don't even all have to agree on tactics

at times.

It's almost as if the leftist media is attacking Donald Trump for not having everyone be exactly the same in the room, almost as if that's what they're used to.

They're used to looking at a press pool where there's no disagreement whatsoever, which is completely antithetical to what journalism and expression should be.

And so I actually applaud the fact that not everyone in the room agrees on every issue or sees eye to eye on even the way to go about advancing those issues.

That that's something that should be celebrated.

But the insinuation that this is some form of a radical summit, nothing could be further from the truth.

I mean, you have

sorry, go ahead.

Go ahead.

No, go ahead.

Well, no, just to finish the point, I mean, there's people in there that are consistently attacked

in a misleading way by the media for doing nothing more than investigative journalism or really exposing, you know, some of the biggest stories of our time.

And I wouldn't call Lila Rose a radical.

I mean, Planned Parenthood would call Lila Rose a radical.

That doesn't make her one.

And certainly Prager is not.

And Prager is being,

you know, his algorithms are all upside down to make sure people stay away from Prager University.

So

what came out of this meeting?

Well, first and foremost, the fact the meeting happened in the first place is a really promising sign.

It shows that the White House is listening in real time to the wants, needs and concerns of the American people.

I think this issue of tech censorship is one that has been given a much bigger platform over the last two, two and a half years than it was

previous to that.

And I think that the tech companies are

really unchecked and out of control in a lot of different ways.

And whether it be the demonetization of Steven Crowder's videos or the restriction of Prague University videos on YouTube or Lila Rose not being allowed to advertise on Twitter while Planned Parenthood is

these sorts of isolated incidents it shows an actual pattern and so the big takeaway first and foremost is that this has really elevated this issue to the highest possible level and has definitely got the tech companies attention and now the president even said that he wants to call the tech companies back in and have them answer some of these questions of why these individuals and why these voices are being suppressed.

But even even beyond this is that this has been, and this is where I really applaud the president, this has essentially been a third rail of politics issue for whatever reason, that both parties have been perfectly fine with bending the knee to the Silicon Valley oligarchs and elites.

And because Google, for example, is the most lobbied-for company in the world.

I mean, they have an amazing amount of K-Street lobbyists that advocate for them.

So this was not necessarily something that the president will benefit from politically, from the wise men of Washington or the K-Street ruling class, but it's something that resonates with the American people and definitely put a lot of these social media oligarchs on defense.

And I think that's for the better.

Let me switch subjects

about Tommy Robinson.

Change to Tommy Robinson.

Wilkow was on with me.

Andrew Wilkow was on yesterday.

And he was speaking about Tommy Robinson.

And I don't know.

I haven't spoken to Tommy Robinson, and I haven't done a lot of in-depth homework because it's over in England, and I see things on both sides and think, that's kind of bad.

And then

other times I think, ah, no, I think he's being persecuted.

But I'm not sure.

The Blaze just did a story on Tommy Robinson.

Tommy Robinson was not convicted of journalism.

He was convicted of illegal immigration, assaulting a cop, and fraud.

He's no hero.

I don't know.

I haven't even had a chance to read read this whole thing.

And I don't know.

I'd like to talk to Tommy myself and ask him about some of these things.

Do you know Tommy?

And I know Donald Jr.

has come out and said, hey,

we should at least consider what he's saying about coming here to America because he's facing jail time.

Do you know him?

What is your feeling on him?

And

is this something that we should be considering?

So, I do not know him, and I, like you, am hearing very conflicting information on this story.

And usually, that goes to show me that the truth is somewhere in the middle of both of those things.

Usually, that just kind of comes from experience there.

I will say this, though.

I think what is really difficult for us Americans to understand

is how the UK and Europe really don't appreciate free speech at all whatsoever or the freedom of the press.

But they don't have a First Amendment.

They don't.

They don't.

And, I mean, the kind of Corbinite movement in the United Kingdom, led by Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labor Party, is essentially his satellite cell with Bernie Sanders in the States.

And so

my point, kind of what I'm talking about with Tommy Robinson and all of this, is that it's a tough thing sometimes for Americans to digest, saying, wait a second, Tommy was locked up last year for filming outside of a courthouse.

And yes, there are laws about that in the United Kingdom, whether they're I think they're totally incorrect.

But there is something to go to show that if the left in this country gets their way and they want to make America Europe, I mean, you're going to have a completely different set of standards and rules.

And I think that applies in this case.

And I can't speak to the other stuff in regards to Tommy.

I read a similar article to that where someone talked about the illegal immigration and so on and so forth.

But

again, when you hear such conflicting information, I think the truth is somewhere in between there.

Yeah, and I think it's both a frightening thing, but at the same time, a really good thing that I'm not willing to take other people's words for it.

I want to personally do my own homework, and I want to talk to the person, and I want to look at both sides myself before I judge it.

And I think that's that's really good.

That's what we didn't do, really, I think many people didn't do on Kavanaugh.

They were just

going along with their side until Kavanaugh really spoke out and the two were sitting there.

And I think America figured out, I don't know.

I can't be the guy who decides the guilt or innocence with a media trial.

And I think that maybe this is good that we're

a little wary of judging people as good or bad.

Would you agree with that?

I totally agree.

And look, the whole idea of due process and the idea of the cross-examination of witnesses and trial by jury is to try to remove kind of the trial by the mob.

And this was something that was really rooted in English common law.

which was trying to bring rationality and try to derive emotion away from sentencing.

And we saw this with the Covington kids back in January.

Let us not forget how the media was so quick to indict a group of high school kids because they dared wear Make America Great Again hats

on a monument in Washington, D.C., while an agitator got up

in their face and started banging a drum.

And all of a sudden, we were supposed to believe these were the worst kids in the world.

I've only got about 40 seconds here.

Can you just tell me, on your editorial about naming

these

corporate, you know, Google, Facebook, et cetera, naming them not platforms or instead naming them publishers, which carry some real heavy ramifications for those companies.

Did you talk to Donald Trump about that and is he interested in pursuing this?

There was a question about it yesterday and he seems I think he, like I, wants to try to find a way to solve this without growing government.

However,

there was a sense and a tone, and this wasn't outwardly said, but it was kind of the subtext, is if these tech companies continue the way they're going, that there's going to be more and more options put on the table.

I don't know if this can be done outside of the legislative branch, if it can be done executively, but I do think that the changes in the 602 code need to happen because these big tech companies are hiding behind.

the platform label when in reality they're acting like news publishers.

Exactly right.

Charlie, thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

Charlie Kirk, founder and president of Turning Point USA, somebody who

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He is very, very sharp and has built a very powerful organization, and he's 24.

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Pat Cray has joined us all week.

Stu is on vacation.

We've appreciated Pat coming in all week.

Thank you, Pat.

Oh, absolutely.

It was kind of a joy.

Yeah, it was a joy.

It really was a joy.

It's a joy.

It really is.

It's been a joy.

It really is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So remember when we just thought,

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It really does.

That kind of sucks.

It really does.

It really does.

Yeah.

Been interested to hear.

So, what do you have on your plate there?

How many people

don't know what the deal is with this Tommy Robinson situation?

And

I guess

maybe the one thing that tips the scales against Tommy Robinson for me is right here in the Blaze Blaze story today, and that's the fact that he appeared on the Alex Jones show.

Well, okay.

Well, that cinches it.

I mean, obviously,

there's something wrong there.

Something wrong.

Okay.

I mean, Donald Trump also appeared on the Alex Jones show.

Yeah, that was a mistake.

That was a mistake.

I think he's corrected that.

You know,

because he hasn't been on there in a couple of years.

Yes,

I do believe that.

I will tell you this.

You kind of have to look at Tommy Robinson.

You know, would you know whose show you're going on if you were going on a show and it wasn't the BBC?

It was just some podcast over in England?

No, I wouldn't.

Actually, no.

Yeah, that's true.

And you might do your homework, but if they were controversial, you'd be like, well, I'm controversial too.

I don't know.

I just don't.

Yeah.

I just don't know.

And the problem is there are so many people on both sides.

There are people that pretend that they're progressives and they're absolute socialists.

I mean, and a socialist meaning eventually we're going to get to communism.

You know, there are just snakes everywhere that you just don't know who people are.

And that's dangerous.

Yeah, it is.

And it's...

It's another point in why nothing's funny anymore because you just don't know who to believe.

You don't know who to trust.

You don't know who you can turn to, and you don't know what's even real anymore.

Part of Tommy Robinson's problem was

he's been using all these fake videos and fake quotes on people.

Right.

So, did he know that?

Yeah, right.

Did he know that, or is he part of that?

We'll get into Tommy Robinson.

I want to do some more homework, and we'll probably talk about that on Monday.

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Exactly.

Don't endorse me.

You know what happened.

I can't not fair for the other candidates if you endorse me.

I don't want you to.

Yes.

So

that's exactly what Joe Biden did.

And

then Cheyenne took that list.

That's really something.

Good for her.

Good for her.

Well, she's into social justice, and she knows she's lived a privileged life.

Right.

And so she's like, no, no, no.

You know, anyway.

So I've been up here in New York and I've been staying at this Airbnb, this place.

And it's this really nice house because I have.

all of my kids with me and the grandkids and everybody else.

And so

we rented this Airbnb.

And when you do that, I've done this before.

Like I've stayed in San Francisco for, I don't know, some event I had to do.

And we traveled with the whole radio team and everybody else.

Yeah.

Pat, you were there, right?

I was there.

Yeah.

And yeah, and remember, and

you know, when you meet sometimes the Airbnb people, they have this

kind of moment when they see me walk up.

Yeah.

Yes, it's really not pleasant.

And so I was not looking forward to meeting the owners of this house.

And so when I first walked into the house, the guy's got a big library.

And so I'm looking at all of the books, and I'm trying to figure out who he is and who they are.

I find out that she's very, very, very famous.

And he is as well.

He's a very famous painter.

And I don't want to give any more details than that because you'll understand in the story.

But I can't figure out where they stand on things at all just by trying to piece clues together of how their lives are.

And yeah, I went through the medicine cabinet.

Anyway,

so I'm trying to figure out who they are.

And I actually bump into him in the street because he was going into the garage of this house where he has an art studio.

And we find out that we have a mutual friend.

And I'm like, hmm,

that shows maybe,

but he's doing work for this mutual friend.

He's painting something.

So I'm like, yeah, maybe, but maybe he doesn't know.

Then

he says, hey, come by in the art studio anytime.

He said, I work here every day and I'd love to talk to you, you know, show you this stuff.

And

so I said, sure.

So I come back the next day and I go into his studio and he's working on another painting for someone else.

And he says, yeah, he's a classic painter, a classical painter.

Um, and so he uses, he won't work off of a photograph.

If you want a portrait, you have to sit for it, and sometimes they take as long, apparently, as a month.

But he could only get he said, I'm working on this piece, and it's really hard because I can only get the guy to sit.

He's only he sat for me for six straight days, and he said, The guy just couldn't take any more time than that.

And he starts to show me, and it's Clarence Thomas.

He's painting this portrait portrait of Clarence Thomas.

And

because he had to leave,

he made a paper-mache Clarence Thomas.

And

the justice gave him his black robe to put over this paper-mache Clarence Thomas.

I took a picture of it.

I'm going to ask him if I can share it.

It's hysterical.

He's got like little beer can shoes.

I mean, his feet are like beer can.

He needed to get the drape of the of the robe right.

And Clarence couldn't sit there any longer.

And so I'm thinking, okay, this guy, he's got to be.

I said, so six days with Clarence Thomas, he said, he's a remarkable man.

And I'm like, okay, all right, I think I'm safe.

But in New York, you never know.

Yesterday, it's raining and raining really hard, and I'm walking down the street.

I'm about three blocks away from the house, and he says,

I hear, hey, Glenn.

And I look back and it's him.

And he runs up and he's like, hey, I've been watching some of your stuff.

I did some research on you with art.

And I said, oh, boy, okay, yes.

And he said, I really want to talk to you because of your art history things that you've talked about.

Now, everything I've ever talked about on art history is like the progressive era art and how it is, you know, on the buildings here in New York and what it says and how they changed it and everything else.

And I said, uh-huh.

And he said, you are the only one.

I've done so much research for years.

He's an art professor as well.

He said, for years, I've done work on the progressives and what they did around the turn of the century to art and how they have destroyed art.

And he said, you're the only one that I know that actually knows this stuff.

said, I really would like to talk to you about it.

So we went to his art studio.

We sat there.

He was like a starving little kid

where he was just like, somebody I can talk to.

Somebody I can talk to about the evil of progressive, you know, 20th, early 20th century progressives.

And he talked to me about how if he said, if you want to learn how to paint, don't go to art school.

You want to learn how to, I think he said said something along the lines of if you want to learn how to hate,

you can go to art school.

He said, but they're not teaching, he said, they're teaching ugliness and they're teaching you,

you know, to be,

he said, to be polite, avant-garde.

And he said, all of this stuff was to change the people's values.

And he talked about this amazing process about how

the elites and the progressives changed people's tastes and now how it is just this corrupt system.

And this is a guy who is a well-known, I mean,

you know, here in New York has a big

gallery that's his, just him.

So he's a big, big name.

And I was shocked.

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you wouldn't be willing to do a podcast, would you?

My son-in-law was with me.

And as the guy walked out, I said,

He said, You've got to get him to do a podcast.

This is fascinating.

And I said, He's never going to do a podcast.

He'll never do that.

And he comes back, and my son said, Ask him.

And he said, Ask me what?

And I said, Well, I do a podcast.

He said, I know, I've watched them.

And I said, You wouldn't be willing to.

He said, I'd love to.

Wow.

So once I get him to verify, because I said, you better think about it, dude.

And he said, I understand.

I know what that means to my, you know, career and everything else.

He said, but

I'll think about it.

But my answer to you is yes.

He says that the corruption of the art world, and he's right, culture leads politics.

Right.

Does any of that sound familiar?

You remember where that, I mean, the origination of all that, where that comes from?

The communist goals from 1963 that were entered into the congressional record.

Goal number 22.

You remember what that was?

I was thinking about that yesterday.

It was something like to make it ugly and degrading or something like that.

Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression.

An American communist cell was told to eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

Wow.

This is, I mean,

I'm going to tell you here.

This guy has the history really down,

and

it was a fascinating conversation.

And the good thing is, I said, yeah, but, you know, it's

nobody's, who's going to, who's, who on the inside is going to change it?

I said, you know, in

the universities, you're starting to have the intellectual dark web that are coming out and they're still on the left but they're coming out and exposing it he said glenn people are starving he said they know this isn't good they know this isn't right and they're sick of the corruption in this that you are destroyed unless you play ball and he said i think you'll be surprised at the number of people in the art world that are sick of it and want an end of it and i think that's i mean it goes to this theory that I have that we're reaching a tipping point to where people know what we have now is not working.

And so

we have to start showing a brighter tomorrow and the way to get to that brighter tomorrow because people are starting to feel, I don't want anything to do with what's happening today because it doesn't work and it's corrupt and it's awful.

And it's big change, big, big change is on the way.

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John Lott is one of the biggest scholars and experts on gun stats in the world.

He's been locked out of his Twitter account for literally tweeting the truth about the New Zealand shooter that has been deemed a Trump supporter and a right-winger.

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Global capitalist markets are the enemy of the racial autonomists.

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On Monday.