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Oh, I need to move ahead and get on with it.

So I, I, I really, uh,

I want to start with some audio.

This is how crazy and desperate.

Yesterday, I posted something about Project Veritas.

I said, this is the most important story, possibly one of the top three stories of the year.

I think it's the most important story because it's showing how Google is trying to manipulate you, what their plans are to control, control information and to control and program people.

It is a very important story.

I had so many people

write back or tweet, oh, yeah, right.

Like, you're not talking about the woman who Donald Trump raped.

Are you kidding me?

You believe this?

Here's the Trump accuser on CNN

with

Anderson Cooper, who knows he's in the Titanic.

He's standing on the part of the Titanic that snaps in half.

He knows.

He's like, I got to get to a lifeboat.

We're going to take a break.

I got to get to a lifeboat.

And she just makes it worse.

Listen to this.

You don't feel like a a victim.

I was not thrown on the ground and ravished.

Which, the word rape carries so many sexual connotations.

This was not sexual.

It just, it hurt.

It just, what, it just, you know.

I think most people think of rape as a, I mean, it is a violent assault.

It is not.

I think most people think of rape as being sexy.

Let's take a short break.

Think of the fantasies.

I'm on the Titanic.

We've just got to take a quick break.

If you can scramble, we'll talk more on the other side.

You're fascinating to talk to.

Oh, my gosh, that was just creepy.

You're fascinating to talk to.

Would you have a rape fantasy about me right now?

What was that?

Very strange.

Very strange.

Now, she also has the clothing, and she's never worn the clothing since.

The clothing she was wearing on the day that she was supposedly raped by.

Violently raped by Donald Trump.

Okay.

So

here she is about, well, you have it.

Let's take it in for DNA testing.

Listen.

The mayor of New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio, who of course is running against President Trump, has said that if you were to bring a case forward,

he will pursue it.

He will have the New York City Police Department pursue it.

So do you want to pursue this?

It is

the greatest police department in the world.

The detectives are great in New York.

The thing is, it's past the time.

Experts, I've been talking to experts, and they say that we've passed

legal limitations.

Yes, thank you.

Yes, there was a statute of limitations in place at the time that this happened in late 1995 or 96.

That has since changed.

And Mayor de Blasio, when he heard your story, said that he would pursue on your behalf an investigation.

And so you have the dress that you are wearing.

You don't, I'm sure, still have the tights, but would you consider doing that?

I consider it, but the experts are telling me that...

So you've consulted lawyers.

Yeah, well, they've written to me.

I've never consulted a lawyer in my life.

It's not something I would do.

They have, you know, emailed me to tell me that, you know,

as you say, the statute of limitations is passed because

I don't know the legal.

I don't want to say what it, you know, because I don't know what it is.

Huh?

You might be lying.

I'm just saying you might be lying.

Does it seem...

Does it seem?

I've heard people...

speculate that maybe she was a little maybe tipsy on this particular interview.

I mean, she's she's certainly slurring words and such.

I don't know.

Look, I don't, I don't, okay.

So

I talked to experts.

I've

talked to many experts.

And

they all say the same thing.

And they tell me straight up.

They say, whatever,

whatever you get out of this conversation, I want you

to remember.

I don't remember what they said out of that, but they told me stuff.

And I'm telling you, it's past the time.

Buy my book.

Right.

Yeah, I guess that's the point.

That's really it.

Why would you tell a story like this at this time?

You go 20 years, 25 years,

without telling the story about this

alleged assault.

We were at Berger Goodman's.

Yes, Bergdorf Goodmans.

Is that what you said?

It was Bergjork Goodman's.

And we were there, and he was touching lingerie in a very rapey sort of way.

Okay.

And he came up to me and said,

hey,

would you try this lingerie on for me?

And I said, well, that's kind of a

strange request because usually

people don't like to

try on

underwear and stuff.

You don't usually

do that.

And there is

nobody around.

And so I said, okay, I'll just go into this room.

Would you like to be there

while I change in into this lingerie?

And he said, would I?

And I said,

right.

And so he was.

And he was,

I distinctly remember he was wearing a trench coat or a overhoat.

Overcoat.

Or a big long.

I mean, it's just his tie was in the way of his wee wee.

So I couldn't tell that he opened up his fly.

But I talk to a lot of people and it happens.

Right.

That's an amazing.

It just does not seem to hold up to the very basic levels of a credibility check.

Yeah.

Because, I mean, because a couple of things.

Number one,

you are releasing this book 25 years later.

What's your purpose of that, right?

Just to tell the story randomly?

No, because

truth.

Well, true.

Okay.

No, because I mean, you want people to know the truth about Donald Trump, right?

You want people.

You want people to know the truth about Donald Trump, that he's this really bad guy.

Yes, exactly.

Right?

Yes.

Okay.

So you want that to happen.

What you have now is the mayor of the city who could actually look into this is telling you we will look into this now despite whether he actually can or not he doesn't understand

the

law

like right like the people that emailed you that you didn't consult a text message yeah just a little while but the added advantage here and this is a miracle situation if you're in if you're in this situation you're writing a book you're trying to obviously let people know the truth about this awful person who's a president of the United States and up for election and all these things is the mayor of the city is also running for president against this person.

So he is incredibly motivated to find anything negative about Donald Trump.

Here's what says it all.

Let me go and reframe this CNN interview with Anderson Cooper.

Play this again.

You don't feel like a victim.

I was not thrown on the ground and ravished.

Never.

The word rape carries so many sexual connotations.

This was not sexual.

Stop for just a second.

Just stop for a second.

Listen to her.

When you start listening to her, like this, play it again.

Because she's like, this is

not sexual.

This is horrible.

Listen to her.

You don't feel like a victim.

I was not thrown on the ground and ravished.

Which the word rape carries so many sexual

connotations.

This was not.

This was not sexual.

It just, it hurt.

It just, you know.

I think most people think of rape as a, I mean, it is a violent

assault.

I think most people think of rape as being sexy.

Why?

Let's take a short break.

Listen.

Take a quick break.

If you can sit down, we'll talk about that on the other side.

Fascinating to talk to.

Okay.

So now, what would I do in that situation?

What would any journalist that was really trying to get to the truth do in that situation.

What?

What a journalist do you just hammer it out of his mind?

What is the one thing you would never do at that moment?

I mean, take a break.

You'd never take a break.

You'd say, I know I'm supposed to take a break here, but hold on just a second.

You have her on the ropes.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

You think you have now a chance to take her apart because it's all starting to unravel.

The last thing you do,

unless you're part of the defense of this woman, not prosecution or looking for the truth, if you're part of the defense,

you immediately go, Your Honor, we need a recess.

Yeah, I mean, you could make the argument, look, it's a woman who's claiming to be,

you know, claiming to be raped.

And usually those people are not uh attacked in an interview um however if it was a republican who you know if if it was you know roy moore who's on the air and he's being pressed and he says something like that like that's not going to be just like

forget about politics for a second yeah if you are trying to find the truth You don't take a four-minute break where one of her handlers can come up to her and go,

we should end this interview.

Or you're looking really stupid.

Would you shut up?

You do not do that.

Yeah.

I mean, you can make the argument it's not political, I think, as you, as you are, and that it's a

gentle treatment of someone who says they were assaulted.

However, I think when it comes down to it, on the other side, that would not be the treatment by most of the media.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it wouldn't.

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Station ID.

Sandy.

All right, let's go to Sandy.

Hello, Sandy.

Hi.

Sandy, are you okay?

You just brought up a lot of memories today as I'm listening to the program.

Really?

Sorry to do that.

What exactly happened?

I would just like to report a credible accusation of assault against the President of the United States.

Okay.

Against

with you.

You were assaulted by Donald Trump.

I was assaulted by Donald Trump.

Okay.

And I have never told the story before.

All right.

It happened

on September 31st, 1938.

1938?

Yes.

Okay.

Was Donald Trump even.

On September 31st, 1938, here I am.

I'm standing at an Apple store.

And I'm purchasing an iPad.

Okay, there's no...

And I look behind the genius bar, and there's Donald Trump.

You've heard him say he's one of the most brilliant geniuses in the world.

It's true.

I saw him at the genius bar.

And I thought he was going to help me with my purchase.

And instead he put his hands on me and he began to strangle me.

He began to strangle you.

Yes.

And then

it happened.

Donald Trump murdered me.

It was terrible.

Well, hang on.

I've never told this story before.

Okay.

And he murdered me right in the middle of the Apple store.

Okay, what date did this happen?

Because you were very...

September 31st, 1938.

Okay.

Donald Trump was born June 14th, 1946.

Oh, is that what he's saying now?

No, that's what you're saying.

Let me tell you something.

Hashtag believe all women.

Okay, but I just want to tell you that he was...

Look it up.

Look up the date right now.

You'll see, look on your calendar, September 31st, 1938.

Check it out September 31st 1938 the 31st yeah September 31st 31st yes it was a leap year no I don't think that's how it works stop questioning me why 1938

I'm I'm looking it up and they uh and I'm and I can prove this okay I contemporaneously told three friends you contemporaneous at the time I told three friends about these you told three friends yes Alyssa Milano

Ariana Huffington

and Alexandria Casio-Cortez

They all know that.

Why won't you ask them?

None of them, because none of them were alive at night.

You can read all about it in my book.

It's coming out right now.

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Oh, no, Donald Trump is killing me again.

No, no, he's not.

Well, we've lost.

I think we've lost Sandy.

But it was a thrilling tale of her murder September 31st,

1938.

Of course.

One other thing on this, Glenn.

I'd like to get your individual perspective.

Oh, hi, Stu.

You happened.

Oh, hi.

You missed a conversation with me and Sandy.

Sorry, I was in the bathroom.

So there was a

you have a relative, close relative, who used to work at the store where this occurred.

Bergdorf Griffin.

Yes.

You've been in there, obviously.

He was working there when your daughter met him, right?

Okay, we're narrowing it down.

Okay.

Very close relative.

My daughter married him.

No, no, I'm just.

Tim.

I mean, like,

no one knows.

I can't explain who Tim is in any way.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

I'm trying to explain the audience.

Yeah, so my son-in-law worked at Bergdorf Goodman.

Right.

So my question would be, and maybe it's changed over the years.

This was, I don't think he was working there in 1996.

No.

But not that far after that, right?

He was what?

Late 2000s or 2000s?

Early 2000s.

Early 2000s.

Yeah.

Like, my impression of the store, which is like the most ritzy store in the universe,

is not that you could get away with a sexual assault in the middle of it.

You can get away with a lot in that store.

You can.

But not.

Well, here's the thing: Tim has told me these absolute horror stories, horror stories that have happened to him in Bergdorf.

First of all, people who shop at Bergdorf, they just think that they

have no...

normal rules don't apply to them, many of these people.

Okay.

This is a place that honestly,

it's a block long on the, for the men's store, half a block on the men's store, and it's a full city, New York City block for the women's store.

Okay.

The t-shirts are like, I'm not kidding, $700.

My wife and I, we went to Bergdorf's first time we were living there.

We were like, oh, let's go to this store.

It's hoity-toity.

I thought it was mislabeled.

Okay, I thought it has to be a $70 t-shirt.

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We're just talking about this woman who is claiming rape, and it's just so unbelievably ridiculous.

She's claiming rape in Bergdorf Goodman's.

And Bergdorf Goodman, so you know, is

Neiman Marcus on steroids.

It is,

would you say, the most exclusive women's and men's store in America?

It's the one I would, the only one I would be able to name.

Because it's not like, I mean,

what's the level below that that people would know?

Like, probably Meikin Marcus.

And then so you go.

Yeah, it's below.

So everybody goes, you think Neiman Marcus is like hoity-toity.

You haven't seen anything.

Right.

It's ridiculous.

Until you've gone to Bergdorf Goodman.

Like, it's ridiculous.

No normal human being would go to shop.

Here, it's the.

Do you remember the movie?

A t-shirt would cost $750.

It does.

It does.

So remember, do you remember the movie Arthur?

When he first comes in.

Yeah, when he first comes in and Liza Minelli is stealing a tie.

And he's like, I'll take

10 of those sweaters,

six in this color,

14 in that color.

Remember?

And he's shopping with John Gilgood.

And then she takes the tie.

And he goes across the street.

She goes across the street.

And the security guard stops her and she says, you stole this tie.

And then Dudley Moore steps up and he's like, no, oh, did you get that tie for me?

And you forgot, you didn't forget to put that on my bill.

Oh, I'm sorry, Mr.

Bach.

Do you remember that?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's Bergdorf Goodman.

Okay.

Okay.

So, and my son-in-law worked at Bergdorf Goodman.

And the stories that he tells me about people, okay, not Bergdorf, but the people who go there.

The clients.

The clients.

They'll come in and they'll come in with their great Dane and their dog will crap in the middle of Bergdorf's and they won't say anything.

They'll just walk away like, will somebody please clean this up?

And the Bergdorf people do.

I mean, it is crazy, crazy.

So the customer is never wrong.

The customer is never wrong.

And so you could see the customer, if you were known like Donald Trump, you could see going into a dressing room and perhaps fooling around in there.

But if there was rape going on and somebody said, Help!

I'm telling you, the Bergdorf people are right there.

You are what?

You're walking around.

She said it was tights or a leotard of some sort.

A bodysuit, I believe.

And why wouldn't you?

If you're being raped by Donald Trump, say, help, right?

You're being raped by anybody.

Come on.

It is so ridiculous.

It's not like, it's not like it's Kmart.

Yeah.

First of all, that bodysuit was probably $500 to $1,000 if it was just like a leotard.

You're not putting on, they don't let you try on shoes without socks.

Nordstroms doesn't let you try on.

Buster Brown doesn't let you try on shoes without socks.

You think they're going to have lingerie or a bodysuit?

Oh, yeah, just go try this on.

No,

no.

And all she would have had to do is say, help.

And I'm telling you, the help would have been there.

Now, if somebody was having consensual sex in a room,

it's different.

I'll bet you that Bergdorf is like, especially for somebody who would spend a lot of money, well, buy a t-shirt.

I think they would just be like,

they were having sex in there.

And there's nothing I can do.

And because they spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, and they wanted to have sex there, so they did.

But I'm telling you, they would have been right there

because their products are in that room and so you're not gonna believe me if that was going on she would have the bodysuit because they would force her to buy it

which is it's kind of nasty to think of the whole

thing it really is

any of it but really is uh and then you don't well she did tell two people right contemporary contemporaneously she told two people

and and they kept her secret for all this time i just i

it none of that story makes sense to me.

No, none of it does.

None of it does.

She's not reacting now.

She's just not.

Yesterday she said rape was sexy.

I know.

Nobody considers rape sexy.

She does.

It sounded like it, yeah.

Quite honestly, which makes her story kind of more real, but as consensual.

Right.

If she thinks, if she has rape fantasies, okay, then

she would

go into some store and some guy say, You look good in that.

Why don't you try that on?

And I'll come in with you.

And as she said herself,

she thought, This is funny.

I'm going to make him wear it.

And when he said, No, I'm not going to wear it.

It's your size.

That's a that's just

what?

A rape fantasy?

Would that be a rape fantasy?

Because no woman, no man, no one would ever do that.

Imagine somebody coming up and some woman coming up to you in a store and saying, you know, you'd look really sexy in that and really kind of coming on to you.

Do you then say, really?

I should try that on.

You know what?

Would you come in with me and just see?

You wouldn't do that.

You wouldn't do that.

And that's with a woman.

Yeah, she's not the other way around.

Her

defense on that is that she thought it was funny and playful and did not think anything bad was going to happen.

You know, it seems very strange in retrospect at the very least, but that is what she says.

She's like, oh, I just thought he was going to come in.

It was going to be funny and I'd have a good story.

She does.

And she has a book that she is selling to tell that story.

I just see, it seems like if you're not going to, if someone's going to offer you...

The guy who's running against him, Bill de Blasio, running the city of New York, is saying, yeah, I don't care what the statute of limitation is.

I'll still go after it.

I will absolutely investigate him.

He has every incentive in the world to do this.

And you're like, eh, I don't know.

I got an email that said, like, I probably wouldn't work.

Like,

if your idea here is to prove that the president of the United States is a rapist, which obviously we would all agree that if he actually did this thing, he shouldn't be in office and should be in prison.

Yes.

Hopefully for the rest of his life.

Yeah.

Right.

This is a horrible thing she's accused him of.

If it's true, obviously what you want to do is to make sure that he pays a massive price for it.

Bill de Blasio, whether it's true or not, will try to prove that it is true.

Now, but here's the thing.

She doesn't want to pay the price of falsely accusing someone of rape.

She did.

No, no, no.

She not file charges.

Okay.

You think just because it's in a book.

Yeah, you file.

No, I mean, I think Donald Trump could still go after, but he's not going to.

Why even...

If you're the attorney for the Trump president, you're like.

She wants to stop talking.

Move on.

Right, of course.

You know what I mean?

Move on.

She has no credibility.

So he's not going to sue her.

However, if she would file charges,

then he can come after her with the weight of the law.

Right.

And obviously, she'd go to jail.

Right.

Yes, at least in theory.

Although I can't imagine, again, if the mayor of your city is offering this sort of assistance, I can't imagine she'd actually get in trouble if it came out that it was fake.

The problem is.

I mean, how are you going to?

You're never going to be able to prove it's not.

It didn't happen.

None of us were there.

She's holding it.

I mean, look at that.

Yeah.

I mean, they couldn't even prove that.

They've got video.

Look at the video.

Did you see the ridiculous video that came out this weekend?

With that noose hanging around his head.

Loosely around it.

Nobody even cinched it up.

He was like wearing it like a tie.

Right.

Wouldn't you, if that had happened to you, wouldn't the first thing you do be like, oh my gosh, get that off of me.

Yeah.

You would have that.

He's walking around like, hey, come on in.

Can I get you some water?

You want to take the noose off?

Have you noticed my noose?

You just saw that.

Yeah, somebody put that around me.

It's on the place.

And they got it.

They're coming up and like tugging on it and stuff.

Okay, just wanted to make sure you all knew that that noose was around my head.

My neck.

It's ridiculous.

And then, as soon as he finds out that their body cam's on, he tells him to turn it off because he doesn't want to be recorded.

What actor would want to be recorded?

You'd be really camera shy at that point.

Don't record me.

I'm not used to that.

So it's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous.

Unbelievable.

Okay, so who's ready for the big debate tonight?

Oh, I am pumped up.

And

Betto and Elizabeth Warren are the two big stars.

That's great.

Although Elizabeth Warren is surprisingly

doing well.

Yeah, she's on fire.

She's having a moment.

She is with progressives.

You see this moveon.org.

Did you see the poll move on?

Did no.

She's actually ahead of Bernie with moveon.org fans, members, by 20 points,

37.17.

So

she's doing really well with progressively.

I think she is, you know, you look at Bernie and you think he's a crazy old man now.

I can't think of the single thing that is appealing about that guy.

There's nothing.

He's the most liberal one.

No, no, no.

Yeah, I know what you're going to say because you had a great show last night on Jilla Brandis.

Jilla Brandis.

Her voting record is worse than his

list of Bernie Sanders.

Who's there, Mao?

I know, especially because she was known as a conservative.

She was known as a moderate Democrat forever until she became a senator, and then she's now left of Sanders, which is just laughable.

She just does not believe anything, which you proved, I think, to beyond a reasonable doubt last night.

Yeah.

But, you know.

Like, for example, Sanders is saying she wants to pay.

He was Sanders is saying he wants to pay off all college debt, where Elizabeth Warren is like, well, I want to pay off, you know, college debt, but if you make over $250,000 a year, we're not going to pay off your debt.

And Sanders is like, oh, I will like she's like my plan's going to cost 800 billion dollars well mine's going to cost 1.6 trillion like it's like well i'm also going to give away free ice cream on every street corner in america it's incredible how far they go in this stuff but i mean they're both basically the same candidate right

you know they he but you like i can one's 77 years old the other one's what 70 yeah she's pretty close 60

like no she doesn't from little mermaid right he looks insane he looks like a nutty professor right like he does.

He does.

Where she, I think, is, you know, built by scientists in a lab for the ultimate candidate to be defeated by Donald Trump.

Like, she is

right in his wheelhouse.

But, you know, I don't know if you're thinking about electability.

I mean, can Bernie Sanders win a national election?

It seems completely nuts.

And I think Democrats look at it and say, there's no way this guy's going to win.

He's nuts.

If he can, if he does, then you turn the country off.

It's just a shuttle.

He says I'm turning the country off.

I got to tell you,

I would think if I were a Democrat, I would be for Betto just for this.

Just for this.

Betto is pushing a war tax

for non-military households,

which would disproportionately hit liberal households much heavier because

proportionately the people in the red states are the ones who are going into the military.

So if you haven't served in the military,

you have to pay a war tax.

And it seems like, too, you'd also be hitting people who are opposed to the war disproportionately.

Correct.

It's like, this is like, how can I screw my own base,

but

look like I'm against war?

I know.

Oh, war tax.

Right.

Because the war thing, war tax is basically saying, look, I'm super duper against war.

You can trust me.

I would never go to war type of thing.

Like, Like it's a dumb sort of anti-war stance.

But he can't say he's going to tax the military families, right?

Because that is just untenable, right?

Like these people are going over and fighting for our freedom and they're going to tax them for the war.

I mean, that's insane.

No, that's how he gets there, right?

Here's what he's trying to do.

He's trying to appeal to veterans.

Saying, I'm going to tax everybody else, but not you, because you've already paid a heavy price.

Of course.

So there's a new war tax going out.

And so he's trying to appeal to the veterans but the veterans are not going to be voting for bedo

i mean in bulk yeah i i just don't yeah beto's look he's not good you know everyone was so fired up about him but we here in texas we're watching the race closely and and it it's like you don't you don't mean this guy you think this guy's the next president like we we've been watching him his hands are flailing around all the time he's every time he starts talking he's dripping with sweat he jumps up on counters like he's a cat so like he's like Well, just like this, this is your Kennedy.

He's pretending to be Hispanic.

Yes, yeah.

Like, I,

so let me ask you this: Um,

who is going to who is, who is she gonna, Elizabeth Warren?

She's the big dog tonight, right?

Yes, everybody else, does anybody have more than zero?

Yes, on a platform,

Betto and Elizabeth are the only two, right?

Uh, Betto has, I think, zero or one.

No, he's like four percent.

He's

still in that, he's in that third tier.

I would put him in in that third

tier.

So this isn't the kiddies' table.

This is the baby's table.

And a baby sit.

And Elizabeth Warren is the angry teenager for having to sit there.

Oddly, though, they did break this up randomly.

So what they did is they broke up the candidates into above 2% and below 2%.

And then they picked them randomly.

So Elizabeth Warren basically, I would say, lucked out because she has none of the top tier against her.

She's only against these lower candidates.

She should dominate tonight.

She should.

And it's still, while I think it would be risky later on in the campaign if this happened, because it's very possible people would just not watch it.

It's the first debate of the entire election.

So I think people will be there at some level.

I just can't wait to see who's going to out left.

I mean, she's asking for reparations for gay and lesbian couples.

I mean, I just, this is, this is just going to be

fantastic.

By the way, Corey Booker would be the other one who would be above 1 or 2%.

He's at 3 or 4 meeting.

Is he on tonight, too?

So the big three there would be.

They call it Come Out in a Clown Car.

They do call it come out in a clown car.

It is a plug-in hybrid, though.

All right, good.

I'm glad to hear that.

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Who is going to out-socialize the others?

Who is going to be the one?

There's two categories that the Democrats have to choose from, really.

There's only two groups.

One's bigger than the other.

And I'll explain those groups and what to watch for tonight.

And also we're going to take a look at the poll numbers.

And Stu and I had a conversation earlier.

The poll numbers may tell you everything you need to know for not today,

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Last night on TV, we did our socialist spotlight, which is

which which is always fun to do the socialist spotlight because there are a few socialists out there.

And I'm going to give you the update on the socialist that we highlighted yesterday.

She's not really a socialist.

I don't think she believes in anything.

And I make a pretty good, pretty strong case.

She doesn't actually believe in anything.

She's in a category really of her own.

How many people like that do you think there are up there, Stu?

There's some real ideologues, some people who actually believe in stuff.

Yeah, like the difference between Bernie Sanders and Kirsten Gillibrand, they're saying a lot of the same things.

Sanders is an ideologue.

He went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon famously.

He actually believes this stuff.

You know, Kirsten Gillibrand was known as a conservative in the house and all of a sudden is super liberal now.

O'Rourke, you can't tell what O'Rourke actually believes.

I mean,

he's done the same thing.

He's been all over the board depending on who he's he's in front of.

What audience is he in front of?

That's who he is.

So there's a definite split there as well as to who's a true believer and who realizes

the mood of the Democratic Party right now and is moving to fit it.

Okay, so I want to talk to you a little bit about the poll numbers because the poll numbers show that Joe Biden is ahead.

Joe Biden has, what, 30,

anywhere between 25 and 38 on the kill she's younger.

Let's just say he's at 30.

Sure.

All right.

Big lead.

However, there are 22 other people on the stand.

Now,

maybe,

maybe

it's just that when everybody else joins, you know, when everybody else is eliminated, Joe Biden will pick up a lot more points because there's a lot more people like him that people have to choose from.

But I don't think that's true because the people that are acting like he is, centrists,

they all have zero.

So

it's like everybody who wants to be in the center, who just wants to restore America to sanity, as they would say, I wouldn't say, but as they would say,

those people are

about 35%, 38%,

would you say?

Maybe 40.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's a good...

A good opportunity to point that out.

And you're at Biden, you know, let's say he has 30%.

Who Who else is running as a moderate has any?

I mean, Klobuchar has one or two.

Yang, maybe one or two.

Hickenlooper, one.

Bennett, one or zero.

Bullock, zero.

Delaney, zero.

Ryan, zero.

More than one.

So you got.

If he's at 30, you have about 35.

Right.

Now, let's total up the number of the pitchfork people, the people who...

literally want to

overturn the system.

Yeah, so they're...

The people who are talking about changing the Constitution, getting rid of the free market, changing the structure of the Supreme Court.

I mean, people who are talking about deep, foundational, and structural change.

Yeah.

I mean, so here's a very typical poll.

This is from about a week or so ago.

Had Biden at 32,

then Sanders at 14.

This one had actually Warren at 15.

Okay.

Then you have Kamala Harris, who would be in the very left side of this at 8.

You've already surpassed Byron.

Right.

You're already at.

You're already surprised.

And again, after this, O'Rourke, you're going to put over on the left side as well, I think.

Even though I think he's another one like Jilliprand, who doesn't really believe anything, but he's running certainly as a leftist.

Then you have

Booker, same thing.

You put him over on the left.

Yang, I think you'd put, he got 2% in that poll.

You put him maybe on the more conservative or moderate sort of side.

Again, these are all in quotes.

These are Democrats we're talking about.

Klobuchar, you'd put over there with 1%.

Gabbard, you'd have to put over on the left,

1%.

Then who else?

Anyone else there?

You got Bullock would be on the moderate side, maybe.

Oh, but he's at zero, so you can't count that as anything.

Gillibrand also, zero, which is amazing.

I mean, this is,

I mean, she has just had a rough roll.

The one you might have a tough time placing at this point because he's given such little detail would be Buddha Judge.

Now, you know.

Budajudge is a guy who's saying, I want to change the Supreme Court.

He wants 15 Supreme Court justices.

Right.

And that is a radical proposal.

He advocated a 49.999% top rate in taxes.

Now, again, on the Democratic side, where do you put that?

I don't even know where to place that because as of the United States, that's a crazy proposal, right?

It's a massive tax increase.

For Democrats, though, a lot of them are saying 70 and 80%.

So I don't know if he's moderate or not, but I mean, I think you probably put him on the left side of this, though you could also just leave him in the middle.

He's got another 5%.

But if you add all this stuff up, you're at 29, 37, 39, 40, 43,

48 on the left.

And on the mod, quote-unquote, moderate side, you've got 32 for Biden, but one for Klobuchar, 33.

Yang, two, 35, and that's it.

So really, like, you know, it depends on how this breaks out.

Biden, however, is, has a case to make to the left, right?

I mean, the guy was in the most progressive administration, arguably, in history with Obama.

I mean, you could certainly, there's other ways to argue that, but I mean, you could certainly make the case that he did more leftist things than any other president.

He'd certainly be in the top three or four.

He had a very progressive voting record coming into Congress as I think the, he was number one or two as far as the most liberal senators when he was put in as VP.

Yes, he has some positions that are, generally speaking, old that they're trying to say, well, why did you believe this in 1981?

Well, it was 1981.

At the time, 1981, his positions were pretty liberal for 1981.

It's just that they don't look so liberal now because that was a long time ago.

People confuse Biden's being moderate and just being old.

He's just been around for a really long, freaking time.

And he's a politician, unlike Sanders, who really is an ideologue.

I mean, you know, Biden has

somewhat conservative-sounding quotes from his past because in the past, the Democrats were trying to portray themselves as were the middle of the road.

Correct.

Right?

Like he was fitting the times, which, you know, I can understand.

And that goes with Kirsten Gillibrand.

Yeah.

I mean, if you're a Sanders supporter, that's not good enough for you.

And I understand that.

But I mean, once it comes down to Biden, you know, against a couple of people on the left, he's going to be able to make a pretty good argument.

I mean, remember, he was the one that announced the gay marriage

acceptance for the Obama administration.

He beat Barack to that.

However, but however, he is perceived, you have to

put yourself into the way the

Republicans felt.

The Republicans had some good choices as well, besides Donald Trump, that would work within the system.

That's not what they wanted.

No.

They wanted somebody that would not work in the system.

They wanted Donald Trump.

They wanted somebody to overturn the apple cart.

I think that's the real choice.

What you have to watch in these debates tonight are for the people who want to overturn the apple cart.

The pitchfork Democrats, the ones who

are not saying that Donald Trump is the problem.

They're all going to say Donald Trump is the problem.

But what they're going to say also, the pitchfork Democrats, is Donald Trump is a nightmare.

We've got to get rid of Donald Trump.

However, this system doesn't work.

This financial system doesn't work, meaning the free market system.

They may even come out and say that.

We have to fundamentally transform this financial system.

So the free market, they want to take

and turn upside down.

They want to turn our society upside down.

They want to destroy

the system that they think is broken and replace it with system X.

Joe Biden, on the other hand, is the kind of candidate who is saying, no, we don't need to destroy the system.

We just need to get rid of essentially Trump.

He's done lots of damage.

If he came back to the Obama era, it would be great.

Correct.

That approach didn't work with

Mitt Romney in 2012.

That approach is not going to work.

I think it's not going to work

this time around.

And the only reason, the only reason I think Biden is perceived as.

Let me put it this way

personally

Biden is the guy that I wouldn't want to be the presidential nominee because I think there's a chance that you get enough

what we used to call blue dog Democrats people who usually vote Democrat but they couldn't vote for Hillary Clinton to the Obama Trump voters correct

and

the

female Republican voters who just don't like Trump because they don't like how, you know,

stylistically, okay, that would look at Trump and Biden and say they're interchangeable, even though they're not, they're interchangeable.

And I just feel more comfortable with him because he speaks, you know, softer, yada, yada, yada.

I'm not sure how that ends up.

I'm not sure how that ends up.

So the one I'm afraid of is Joe Biden.

However, I think the Democrats want

to embrace this burn the entire thing down.

Now is the time.

The left wants it, and the left is in charge.

They're absolutely in charge.

And so I think when you look at the numbers, what are the numbers again?

When you add them all together.

We have 48 on the left, 35 moderate.

But again, 32 of that is Biden.

And that's the thing.

You know, you can make, if you want to make a case for Biden here, getting through this, you can find one.

I mean,

if you look at the other side, because you're talking about like they wanted someone to turn over the system, that's why they went with Trump, right?

If you look at 2016 from another perspective, one of the things that kept happening was Donald Trump was sort of in his own wing, really the only person running in that area.

He kept leading the polls forever, and everyone kept saying, well, when these other candidates drop out and they start losing, they're going to coalesce behind somebody

in that wing, the non-Donald Trump wing, and then Trump's going to lose.

But that didn't happen.

People just kept going over to Trump and he won relatively easily.

But I wonder,

that's because people think, I just want to win.

I don't want the other side to win.

I don't want Hillary to win.

That's what the thing was.

And I don't know that that is a strong enough pull for the radicals of the left.

For the millennials and everything else, they don't want to vote for for Joe Biden.

They want somebody that will stand up for their ideas.

So

Joe Biden may win, but it won't be the young and it won't be the radicals.

It won't be that, it won't be the passionate

10 or 15% at the bottom.

They're not going to join.

I just don't think they'll join.

It's interesting because I think there's a thing going on on the right, generally speaking, where you're like, you're looking at these debates and you're like, I don't care.

They're all crazy leftists and I don't care.

But it's like when you are, when you're, when your team has just won the championship game, okay, and you're going to the Super Bowl, you want to watch the other conference championship game because you want to see who it is.

And sometimes it's difficult to pick who you would want.

I mean, because I think Biden would be, there's a lot of people in that middle area, those Democrats that voted for Trump, who may be won over by Biden.

Or those Republicans who generally vote for Republican, but they can cross the aisle one way or another.

And of course, independents, too, right?

Yes.

That might be won over.

Trump's best way to get elected is someone like Elizabeth Warren that scares those people.

Yes.

The people in the middle are like, holy crap, she wants to do what?

Yes.

I'm not in love with Trump, but I got to go with him.

Correct.

That's the easiest way for him to win.

However, it's also a high-risk thing to root for someone who's, you know, that Trump can beat.

Because if you get a Warren or a Sanders in there, yeah, they might be easier for Trump to beat.

But if he doesn't beat them, the entire country could really be transformed even more than when we saw with Obama.

I mean, Sanders or Warren is like, that is hardcore ideologue remaking the country.

Oh, yeah, the country is,

you'll have, you know, Ocasio-Cortez and her ilk.

That's what will be running the country, and it will not be the same.

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You know, we found out yesterday

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If I were king of the world and I could make everybody pay attention to one thing, I think it would be the expose of Project Veritas this week.

I think what they exposed needs to chill people to the bone.

You need to wake up because we are quickly,

quickly

leaving a time to where we can change this.

I'm not sure we can change this.

I was listening to Tim Poole the other day, and

the way he explains it,

I happen to think that he's right.

Can we get Tim Pool on?

He is the guy who has really been following this

and knows.

And

we are looking now not at, oh, they're going to do facial recognition.

Oh, they're watching and gathering all of our information on this.

No, no, no.

Don't worry about these things individually.

Worry about them collectively because when they have all of these devices, they control you

and they know it.

And they talk about it, and the experts talk about it.

There's book after book after book.

This is total control and the ability to manipulate 350 million Americans, let alone everybody worldwide.

This is why Europe is so against Facebook and so against Google.

They've had so many problems over there.

We're doing what China is doing to their people, except we're just doing it with private businesses.

So Ted Cruz was talking to this woman from Google.

Now, imagine that you had a huge scandal break and you're sitting down in front of Congress and you answer this question this way.

Listen.

A lot of Americans have concerns that big tech media companies and Google in particular, are engaged in political censorship and bias.

As you know, Google enjoys a special immunity from liability under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

The predicate for that immunity was that Google and other big tech media companies would be neutral public fora.

Does Google consider itself a neutral public forum?

Thank you, Senator.

Yes, it does.

Okay.

Are you familiar with a report that was released yesterday from Veritas

that included

a whistleblower from within Google that included videos from a senior executive at Google and that included documents that are purportedly internal PowerPoint documents from Google?

Yes, I heard about that report in industry news.

Have you seen the report?

No, I have not.

So you didn't review the report to prepare for this hearing?

It's been a busy day, and I have a day job, which is digital lobbying at Google.

So very busy.

I'm sorry, this is very busy.

And I don't know how they did that.

Oh, my gosh.

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I'm sitting right across the room right now from the 13th Amendment, the Emancipation Proclamation.

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As we approach Independence Day, we wanted to do something

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We have a museum that is opening up this Saturday, and we invite you to come.

It is called 12 Score and Three Years Ago: The Unfinished Promise of Unity.

And it starts in a slave ship.

You will walk through a slave ship, and this also has,

I don't know what you call it, augmented reality in it as well through the museum.

You'll be able to

experience things in a different way.

But before you get into the slave ship, we ask several questions.

What is slavery caused from?

What is the truth about slavery?

Was American slavery any different than the slavery that was happening elsewhere in the world?

Where was it happening?

How many people came to America?

How many people came to other parts of the world?

Were we the worst offenders of this?

You're going to learn things that you have never heard before.

And it's pretty stunning.

But we also are doing then and now because I want to show you the patterns.

When you learn from history, you can make sure that you don't repeat it.

And so we have modern history side by side.

And some of the things, I mean, walking out into our atrium here, we have probably the studios, how many square feet do you think that atrium is?

I mean, I don't even know, 10,000 square feet, something more than that.

I mean, it's enormous,

this atrium in this building.

It's a whole block long.

and four stories high, and

it's pretty incredible in and of itself.

Our atrium, I had to write a letter to the staff yesterday apologizing.

I said, I said, I'm not usually one for trigger warnings, but

these are understandable trigger warnings.

There are weapons of destruction against humanity that are in

our atrium that

I've never seen before, that are just horrific.

There's in the center of our.

Everybody was freaking out when we put up the Klan display

and showed everything is broken up into nine different categories.

And this one is the silencing of

speech, the silencing of people, making sure that you intimidate and frighten people into silence.

And so we have the KKK display, and it's pretty intense.

I mean,

it's creepy.

It's very, very creepy.

I had to write to the staff and said, I'm really sorry.

It's going to be up for two weeks.

You know, I understand, you know, how all of us feel about this, and please forgive us.

This is where we're doing the museum.

And look out because it's going to get worse later today.

Because then we brought in, you remember the cage

that they were burning people alive in?

ISIS.

And then they were dunking in pools.

They took cages and dunked them in pools.

We have

a cage

that has two

ISIS

execution uniforms, the orange jumpsuits.

I don't know.

We have a few of them, and I think we've avoided the one with blood all over it.

But

these mannequins in these jumpsuits are in this cage,

and it is, and we have the uniform of an ISIS member of someone that was killed.

So we have the mask and the uniform and the gun and everything.

And he's standing next to the cage.

And it is horrific.

It really is.

But

you will walk away with an understanding of...

of history that you've never had before.

You will see things that no one has ever seen before.

You will see things that are really hard to see.

For instance, in the studio, and I have to talk about them here because we've got to get him back to a secure room.

But these three pieces, we've been working with the Lincoln Museum,

and

they are remarkable.

First, the Gettysburg Address,

written in Lincoln's own handwriting.

There were four of these that he made.

He threw away the original, or actually he gave it to some newspaper guy who then transcribed it.

And then he didn't think it was a big deal, so he threw it away.

And later, Lincoln was asked, could you write that out?

So he wrote four of these in his own hand.

This is the actual Emancipation Proclamation that was signed by Abraham Lincoln.

And

over here, furthest from me, and if you're watching the Blaze, you'll be able to see it.

And you just have to come to the museum or sign up for the Blaze to see it.

But you can barely read the, this is in worse shape than the Declaration of Independence.

But that's the 13th Amendment, and again, signed by Abraham Lincoln.

They see the light of day in the museum about three days a year.

So

it's very, very rare to see them.

If you'd like to see them, along with the Juneteenth proclamation, proclamation number three, I didn't even know this.

Did you know this?

Had you ever heard of Juneteenth before you moved here?

Not until I moved to Texas.

But it's a big deal here.

And it's a national holiday.

It is actually a national holiday.

But it is one of those things where it just has the name of like a mall store.

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Like it feels exactly the way it feels.

So weird.

It is an amazing thing.

Texas, the news of the slaves being free hadn't traveled down to Texas for, I think, almost two years.

And so the slaves found out when the proclamation

finally arrived.

And it was, I think, June 19th.

And so they call it Juneteenth.

And when the proclamation finally arrived in Texas and it was announced,

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And

it's an amazing story.

We have that actual proclamation that came into Texas

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That's what this is all about.

This really is to make you into a modern-day abolitionist.

We have looked for so many different ways to

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There are a few abolitionists that are standing up for Christians, Christians right now.

How are the churches not flocking to help the Christians in the world who are being persecuted, who are being tortured?

The things that we have from the Middle East right now that are in this building are horrifying.

We're talking about in Washington and the news, we're talking about the border being a concentration camp.

No, I'll show you what it is.

I'll show you a horror show.

We have the evidence of right here.

Is anybody going to look at it?

It's actually

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It is stunning when you learn about things that are going on right now and you see the actual items.

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Welcome to the program.

Let's talk a little bit about the Supreme Court.

We do have some news on this.

We're expecting some

pretty significant court rulings.

The biggest one, I think, is on

the census.

Census, yeah.

So we did not get that today.

We are getting it tomorrow.

So tomorrow will be the last day of the decisions.

There were eight cases remaining.

Three announced today.

Five will come tomorrow.

So the three that came out today, you've got

one on kind of a criminal justice sort of situation where whether you have to go with a judge or a jury,

basically.

This had Gorsuch siding with the liberals

for the ruling.

And it kind of fits with his sort of libertarian take on things

in that he's basically saying like you've got to have a jury for these things.

And there's a law that basically kind of has the judge making the decisions on certain aspects of guilt and innocence that he didn't like.

Then there was a uh I think that's pretty good.

Yeah, I I don't I mean, I have to say I don't know the ins and outs, and I have to read the review, but uh but just what you said, yes, I feel like I would agree with him generally speaking.

You'd look at this and say like the Kavanaughs and Alitos of the world are more like uh you know criminal, like they're tougher on criminals, you'd say, than the sort of libertarian lean.

But I mean, this is a known split between them.

It's not, it didn't seem that uh dramatic.

There was another thing about licensing for beer and wine stores in Tennessee, and another one about um do we know how they ruled on that?

Uh, yeah, you want want me to really get into the details of that.

I mean, just so you can give it real quick.

It's about the 21st Amendment and the rights of states to be able to make their own liquor laws.

And, you know, it.

So which way did they come down?

The states get the right?

Yes.

That's good.

I think.

All right, good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think.

Dismantling federal power should be great.

Yeah, it was a.

And then I didn't, again, look all that much into that one because it wasn't one of the big ones.

And then there was another one about, I thought it was actually a big one, which was

this concept of you have to basically,

if there's a question about how an agency came up with their own regulation, do you defer to that agency's reading of their regulation?

Or do you essentially judge it against the Constitution?

Right.

And of course,

that one did not go the way I would have wanted it to.

Oh, you've got to be kidding me.

Yeah.

I mean, and that's been a standard that's been around for a while.

I think a terrible standard.

Horrible.

There's some definitely appetite to overturn it, but so far, no problem.

There should be an appetite to overturn that.

An agency, and liberals need to understand this, and conservatives need to understand this.

Your agency can make any deal that it wants right now under a

Republican.

And they could say, you know what, we're going to take all the guns away from all Democrats.

Right.

I mean,

this is obviously

extreme.

But if the agency is the final arbiter of that, not the Constitution, they can do whatever they want, and you don't want that.

No.

They did state that while they allowed it here, there are limits to it, and they outline those limits.

Okay, good.

So what's left?

You have a couple of the big ones left.

The census is left.

We'll get that tomorrow.

There's two gerrymandering cases that have been watched pretty closely.

They're coming back.

And why are those important?

What are the ramifications if it goes one way or the other?

Well, I mean,

it's about partisan gerrymandering.

So, you know, that's one of those things where the left is very fired up about that because Republicans have been in control of these states so often recently that they've been able to redraw these lines to their advantage, which, of course, is what the Democrats do when they're in control.

But now they're thinking about it because Republicans have done it more recently.

So they've overturned.

You remember Pennsylvania had an issue with this that was overturned.

And so we don't know how this one turns out yet.

But the left is, you know, I mean, I would like it to just be very standard, the way it was kind of designed initially.

Well, you know,

in the letters between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, they said, you know, we should have put more Deuteronomy in it, and we should have divided the country into stakes.

And that's what their idea was.

In Deuteronomy, it's a stake is, you know, you're a collection of, let's say, 500 families, and that's a stake.

And then when there's 550,

you start to split that stake into two.

So there's never more than 500 people because that way, when you're electing a representative, you know that person.

That person lives real close to you.

The gerrymandering system has snaked these things out so you don't know who's who.

You also have an Indian reservation case and one about whether you can draw blood from someone who's hammered

when they're unconscious,

which is pretty interesting without a warrant.

Well, can you do that?

You did it in Transylvania.

What's the problem?

It is the Transylvania precedent.

That's in the Constitution.

It is.

I think that's right there with a good and plenty clause

of the Constitution.

I'm Hillary.

That's your Four Minute Buzz.

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Earned a bachelor's degree in business administration.

He's also a craftsman, a businessman, a historian, and a passable breakdancer.

He holds a master's degree in safety management from West Virginia University College of Business.

He founded his company, Antique Cabins and Barnes, in 95.

He expanded that business into what it is today, Barnwood Living.

And they started to make a documentary film, I believe, about old log cabins.

And it turned into what now is a hit

TV show that I find fascinating.

Welcome to the program, Mark.

Hey, thank you for having me, Glenn.

You bet.

You bet.

Are you surprised by the success of the show?

I think it's surreal.

You know, sometimes we're all in a pickup truck driving down the road, and we just look at one another and without saying a word, just bust out in laughter.

Right.

That, you know, Six Hillblides have the TV show, and it's real.

It's not made up.

Right.

I know.

You know what?

I'm fascinated by a couple of things.

First, I own an old log cabin, and that's why your name came up,

is because I'm restoring an 1800s

cabin that is in Idaho, one of the first settlers.

And we're expanding it, and

taking it apart has been a nightmare because we're just so,

you know, you take out the chinking and the thing almost falls down, which

I didn't know that that would happen.

You really have to know what you're doing, and I don't.

But I have been approached.

I was stopped by this 80-year-old woman in the grocery store.

She said, Mr.

Beck, and I said, yes.

She said, you just bought the property with

this 1880s log cabin.

I said, yes, ma'am.

That is a historic site.

And you are, what have you done with that cabin?

I heard you took that cabin down.

And I'm like, no, no, no, we haven't.

We haven't.

We're restoring it.

And she's like, that is a historic site.

I'm like, I know.

Do you ever get any heat from people on taking these things down?

Because they are treasures.

They are.

Well, first of all, I'd like to say that my marketing team, which is me, didn't do a very good job of making ourselves known to you, or we would have taken it down.

We would have taken that thing down for you.

So I've got to get on the marketing department, which is myself.

Well, okay.

Well, you have a strong talking to.

I honestly, I didn't even think about calling you guys, you know, because I mean, I'm just a, you know, I'm just doing it myself.

I didn't even think about calling you guys.

Um, but uh, you know, we just we just hired a guy to do chinking, which I think somebody should have a problem with the name.

I know it's not racist, but it sure sounds racist.

Uh, and uh,

there's so few people that apparently do it right, but as I'm interviewing this guy, I don't know what to, I'm just like, can you put the white stuff in between the logs?

He's like, Yeah, you're hired.

Yeah, right, right, right.

Well, that's how it goes.

I think that to your point earlier there, we do have and come across some really historic buildings, and we try to leave those in play.

You know, if it's the first building or it's got a documented history,

the thing to do first is a consultation with the homeowner

and see if they want to restore it on site.

But a lot of times, for example,

these bicentennial farms and some of the other things that

you see in Ohio and Pennsylvania, these structures are no longer used because farming and lifestyles have changed.

So, what you're seeing is a lot of dilapidated farms across the country.

So, I feel like if we're not repurposing these structures, then we're going to forget about

this history because they're going to just rot.

You know, they're going to fall over and Mother Nature takes care of enough things.

Like, you know, tornadoes have gotten a lot of calls in the last two weeks.

So, I think, you know, we're we are seeing a lot of the landscape change.

They are and they are beautiful.

And as somebody who's just building a fence and taking down an old fence and some of these fences were put in with telephone poles.

And

I have to tell you, if I didn't have power tools, if I didn't have

a backhoe,

I would have stopped.

There's no way to do it.

I can't believe when you see these old homes that you are taking down, these old barns that are all hand-hewn, they are all hand-cut.

These guys, you cannot walk away from an old barn or something like that and not walk away with just tremendous amounts of respect for how hard people worked.

Man, it's incredible.

You think back to the pioneers and you think that they show up in a wagon and there's a family and they start cutting down trees and dragging the trees out, you know, with force and then taking a a broadaxe, squaring that duck, then putting a dovetail notch on it with a handsaw, and start to cycle those logs.

And, you know, so many barns are taken down.

It's got 10 by 10 beams that are six feet long.

And every time we came, we're just thinking, how in the world did they get in here?

And who else are we going to power tank this hand?

So if somebody has a barn,

and

can they just call you and you'll look into it?

And do you buy these?

Are they given to restore?

How does this work?

Well, you know, like any other business, Glenn, we like buy low and sell high.

And I always say that we're slow, but we're expensive.

So we, you know, years ago, we used to

take them down and clean the site up real well.

And then over the years, you know, Barnes has become more popular in England.

So I buy the barns now, and I give I think I give more than most people do because I understand the history.

And, you know, it's really hard to approach somebody when you're buying a family airline.

Yeah, you know, what's that worth?

Right.

And that's always the difficult part for me as a businessman: is that it's not to work out for everybody.

So, you know, we haven't got a barn in a while.

Well, Mark, it's good to talk to you.

And I may take you up in the future on, because

I want to build a barn, but I don't want to build a new one.

I'd like to take an old barn and reclaim it

and then shore it back up and rebuild it.

I just love these old structures, and you're exactly right.

This is why I love you, is you guys are saving history that has just been left to fall apart and it will rot if we don't save them.

And they're so cool.

They are just so great.

Well, you know, I think a lot of part to the success of our show has to do with the fact that we honor those old-time skills and those traits that the pioneers used to build these houses.

And the other thing about us, we don't fight, don't argue.

You know, we have fun working.

It's really hard.

And at the end, it's, you know, I've got a saying that you work hard behind it and take ride.

And I think if you do those three things,

you know,

it shows in your work and it shows in your attitude.

And that's been part of the success of the show.

Mark, thank you so much.

Good, good talking.

What'd you say?

Have you ever been in a room with Hillbillies?

With a bunch of hillbillies?

No.

No, but I did watch,

what is it, Lucky Logan or Logan Lucky?

I did see that.

So I've seen Daniel Craig's version of a hillbilly.

Yeah.

Okay, good.

Well, we'll be glad to meet you.

All right.

Good to talk to you, Mark.

Thank you so much.

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I should have called them

so stupid.

Yeah, maybe they would have done it as part of the show.

You wouldn't even have to make it.

Do you have to pay for those in those reality shows?

I have no idea.

I mean,

I have no idea.

Does the homeowner pay for that stuff?

I'm sure they do.

Maybe you get a discount on it.

I don't know.

So the show just comes in,

they get the episode, and they're just like basically covering a normal transaction that would have occurred anyway.

You know, it's amazing is they take these things apart and they take them apart so carefully.

And it's most of them are like post and beam.

So it's like this old, you know, whittled,

you know,

plug, like a nail that's made out of wood that they whittled out and drilled a hole in, holding this whole barn together.

And they pop that thing out.

And it's amazing.

I don't know how people did it back then.

I really don't.

We dug holes

with a

drill.

I don't know what you call it.

I don't even know what you call it.

But, you know, on the front of a cat, drilling down to drop the posts in.

dig out that for four feet down by hand?

No, uh-uh.

No, we don't need a post.

I don't care if cows are living in the living room.

I don't need a post.

And we complain about our lives today.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

That is amazing.

Yeah, it is.

I mean, you know, when you have, when you have,

your food doesn't come right in the drive-thru, you're like, what the?

Come on.

And that is.

But you know what?

But I will tell you this.

That is, you can't do this right.

Now, like a post, you know, you're digging down four feet.

That's hard.

So you don't get that exactly right, you know, on a couple of the posts.

I get it.

I get it.

But this is,

you, all you have, wait, all you had to do is walk over with a bag, grab the things marked that I just told you I wanted, put them in the bag, put some straws and some napkins, and hand me the bag.

It's better than chasing it around a field, though,

and trying to capture it and then cook it yourself.

Yes.

Yes, Yes, it is.

It is frustrating.

Yes, it is.

The world is a lot easier these days.

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Now, have you seen the picture, this horrible, horrible picture of what appears to be a father and child?

Yes, that is confirmed.

Face down in the water.

How old was the child?

I want to say three.

Two, 23 months old.

Two years old.

Brutal.

Trying to cross the river to come into the United States, and they're on the American side, and they drown.

They're dead.

Yeah, well, that's, and how that happened is just crushing.

Basically,

they were going to go across and try to get asylum in the United States.

The legal bridge, I guess, they were supposed to cross was closed for a couple of days.

They decided, they looked at the water, they said, eh, it's not too bad.

Let's try to swim over.

So it's mother, father, and this toddler.

And so the plan is basically

the dad is going to swim across the river with the toddler and then come back for the mother.

So, I mean, this, I mean, look, this issue, you know, when it comes to policy is one thing.

These are horrible stories.

So basically, stop.

So basically, he puts

his two-year-old in this,

like in his shirt.

So the two-year-old stays on his back, crosses the river safely, puts the two-year-old down on the American side, starts going back for the mom.

The toddler doesn't understand, tries to go after him.

Oh my gosh.

And gets caught in the water.

He realizes it, comes back, gets her again,

and then uh, and but then loses control in the current.

And, I mean, and the mom is on the other side of the river watching all of this happen.

So the picture, I mean, it is devastating, is, you know, this father with his daughter caught is like inside his shirt and her arms are like wrapped around him.

It is, you know, they are talking about it in the media as if it's this, it's like, you know, the Syrian picture that we all know or the picture from Vietnam that we all know, like this really, you know,

and I actually think it's true.

Like it is that

powerful.

The point, however, it communicates is something completely different than what the media is saying.

Thank you for that.

Which is like, hey, please stop doing this.

You know, yesterday also at the same time, you know, they didn't cover the picture of the Border Patrol Guard that saw this happening in another area and jumped in to save the people.

They were losing control and the Border Patrol happened to be there.

And the guy saw that they were drowning.

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Now, why didn't you cover that one?

Right.

The point is,

stop this.

Stop it.

Yeah.

And, you know, yesterday with Nancy Pelosi coming out and saying, oh, you know what, we're going to have all this funding for all these new spaces.

You're encouraging this.

Yeah.

I mean, they definitely need funding right now.

Yes, they do.

The Trump administration is for it.

I agree.

But they're not doing anything at the same time to stop it.

They're still encouraging it.

Yeah.

No, it's very true.

And I think you look at

the interesting part of this as well, the narrative of who these people are, right?

Who are these people that are coming to the United States?

We're told over and over again, these are asylum seekers because of war, violence, terrorism, gangs in Honduras and in Central America.

Well, this family, however, not that situation at all.

They actually came

because they were, I think they had, I want to say they had two kids, but they were trying to raise a family and could not earn enough money in Mexico.

And they were planning on asking for asylum, which is not how that should work.

I think he legitimately was working working at a Papa John's in Central America and not making enough money, could not find a job.

He was struggling too much to support his family.

And so this is more of the traditional, as you would think about, illegal immigrant who decided he's going to come to the border.

However, as they admit, they were going to ask for asylum, which is exactly the point Trump and other Republicans have made in that

they're using asylum for something it's not meant to be used for.

And that is the central part of this.

It is a little different than our traditional arguments about illegal immigration because these are asylum claims and these asylum laws have to be changed people they have figured this out and when when when you know a group of people who want to come here illegally realize okay if i do asylum i have much better chance of being able to stay in the united states and they're utilizing that they're manipulating that system you have to change the laws.

So right now, it puts all the onus on the United States to basically believe every single person who comes across the border and says the word asylum.

And that doesn't make any sense.

So that's why there's this overwhelming amount.

And that is reportedly what is going on with this terrible, terrible situation with this father and daughter.

I mean, it's tough.

I mean, if you have kids, it's really tough to look at something like that.

I mean, it is

and it's heartbreaking because you feel for people who, look, I'm working.

I'm doing it.

I'm trying so hard and I can't make it.

I understand that.

I do.

And so there's legal ways to come here.

There are legal ways to come here.

You could get a visa and just come and work here.

It's not acceptable, though, to break the law and look

and beyond that, it's dangerous.

I mean, they keep saying, like, this highlights the perilous journey.

Yeah, it's perilous.

It really is.

And you shouldn't try it.

You shouldn't try doing that.

I mean, it's so bizarre here.

You have a poor kid

and her father dying here.

And the lesson is not, hey, guys, don't attempt that same behavior because the same thing may very well happen.

There might not be a border agent to pull you out of the river next to you.

And if there were Hispanics that were doing this to get away from Cuba at the height of its problems, do you think conservatives

would be saying, hey, hey, we need a wall around Florida?

We would be saying, we got to help these people.

In real asylum claims.

They're in real asylum claims.

There's an issue there.

We've got to help them.

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And, Stuke, there are two categories, I believe.

There are

the very small number that's not doing well, with an exception of Joe Biden, that says Trump is the problem.

America America is not the problem.

Then there's the other category of people who say America is the problem.

So let's who

do you have a list of what the main thrust of these campaigns are?

Yeah, sure.

So we had kind of broken them down into a quote-unquote moderate, which is not actually moderate, but like the Joe Biden category.

And there you have, I mean, Biden, Klobuchar, probably Yang, Hickenlooper, Bennett, Bullock, Delaney, Ryan, and Moulton.

But

they've all kind of staked out their own thing, haven't they?

Yeah, some of them have.

Like certain, like, you know, and a couple of the, like, Hick and Looper and Delaney are somewhat notable to conservatives because they both came out in big speeches and said, you know, socialism's not the answer.

Correct.

And that's, like, obviously, they're both at 0%.

Right.

And that's an issue.

And

what's his name?

Swalwell.

He's known.

I mean, he's taken on Second Amendment.

Single-issue gun campaign, basically.

Yeah, there's a few of those who are kind of, you know, breakdown on that.

Like, for example, another one I would put in that category, single-issue category, Jay Inslee, who's been talking about climate change almost exclusively.

So

they have a breakdown.

It's down his 0%.

Exactly.

People, there is just not, even among Democrats, like that is a low priority for almost all of them.

And you see that reflected in their numbers.

When it comes to guns, yeah, you're right.

Swalwell, that's his number one topic by a big margin, and he talks about guns more than any other candidate.

Foreign policy, interestingly enough, Tulsi Gabbard is number one on that.

She talks about foreign policy about 70% of the time.

Well, and she's not going anywhere either.

She's not going anywhere either.

Interesting thing about her, she's such a bizarre candidate.

I mean, she has a very strange history when it comes to

all sorts of issues like gay rights, and they're very against what the mainstream Democrat position would be on such topics.

Also, like the big defender of

Assad in Syria, like she has been on that route.

Also was, and this just came out about two days ago, an exclusive, a huge dump of transition documents of the Trump administration.

The Trump administration actually vetted her for a role in foreign policy, which is, this is, she's the only candidate in the field that was vetted for a role inside the Trump administration.

Very strange, but she is very much a non-interventionist, which coincides a lot.

Trump has always kind of been in that.

Well, he's a warmonger, non-interventionist.

Right, he's a warmonger when that's convenient, and he's

when the media needs to say that, and then he's a non-interventionist when they need to say that.

Who's taking on health?

Healthcare is a very popular one, and I would say the number one overall issue for Democrats, as they've talked about so far.

Elizabeth Warren is her number one

topic, healthcare, as well as Gillibrand, Klobuchar,

and

some of the more minority.

What's Biden's?

Biden's number, this is an interesting one.

Number one issue for Joe Biden.

Here are the categories: healthcare, foreign policy, climate change, income inequality, gun control, immigration, social justice, and corporate power.

Has been all put together by the Washington Post.

What's the number one thing Biden is talking about?

Social justice and corporate power?

Interesting guesses.

No.

And I think it's interesting because you think of Biden.

He's in a situation where he

doesn't need to do anything, right?

Like he doesn't need to excite people with policy right now.

He's winning already.

So he just needs to kind of stay in a place that's generally speaking non-controversial among Democrats.

Where does he go?

37% of the time, climate change.

What?

Yeah.

So again, like there's not an there's not a lot of impact among voters with climate change.

I thought he would be more along the lines of doing something

mushy, not talking about social justice like everyone else is talking about social justice, just talking about the inequality of the system.

And, hey, I'm lunch bucket Joe and I can relate to you.

And we're going to make sure that we close that gap, that kind of stuff.

Yeah, and I could see that.

Climate change, though, is basically you saying, what's the communication about climate change?

We want the planet to be nice for everyone, right?

Like, that's how the left looks at it.

It's just like this, everyone's on the same page on climate change.

It's an easy topic for the left among the left.

This next one is education.

Same thing.

You know, like that is not a controversial, tough issue where you're splitting, you know, where gun control, right?

Like, some people would say, okay, we want the Second Amendment, we're going to ban this.

Some people would say, we want Australia's laws.

They all want more gun control, but there's different variances of that, and that can lead to a split.

Climate change, yes, you're going to have, there's a split between like, we're going to remake the entire economy and give, you know, make people, you know, regulate cow farts.

There's the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sort of craziness, but generally speaking, it's an easy topic to talk about for Democrats because we've got to do something, you know, blah, blah, blah.

All right.

What is what's Elizabeth Warren's number one?

You said already it was.

Yeah, healthcare was one, and family issues at number two.

She also says education and climate change is up there as well, social justice, corporate power.

I would have said corporate power, I think, for that one, because that's a big focus for her.

One of her big topics is breaking up the big tech companies, which is interesting because, you know, right now the big tech companies are trying to destroy Republicans while Elizabeth Warren is out there campaigning on trying to break them up, which is fascinating to see.

So I think it's an interesting debate tonight in that I don't, like, they're all, I think, would all be really bad presidents.

Like, there's a, there's a field of now 25, 20 of them you'll see on the debate stage tonight and tomorrow night.

They'll all be really bad presidents for my taste and your tastes as well.

But you do want to know who you're going against, and you want to know how extreme that is.

So if Donald Trump is going up against Elizabeth Warren, that's a different race than Donald Trump going up against Joe Biden or Andrew Yang or somebody else.

So

he said it looked boring, but he was going to watch it.

And I'm sure he will.

Yeah, you'd know.

You'd want to know.

You want to be able to pick up on those things.

Correct.

So they had this split among the two knights.

The way they did this is they said, okay, you got to get a certain amount of donors, 65,000 individual donors, and you need to show up at least at 1% in these polls.

And they got 20 people who qualified for that.

You know, there was one other candidate.

I think it was on,

I think it was Bullock that missed it.

But he kind of qualified.

He'll probably be in the next debates.

Anyway, long story short, they got 20 people

to qualify, and they said, well, how are we going to split this up?

Democrats have been saying, you know, remember last time after the hacks, we realized that they really were favoring Hillary Clinton over Bernie.

So they wanted to make sure everything was completely random.

So they broke it up in a random way.

And what happened was you really only got one frontrunner in this first debate.

It's Warren.

Well, wait a minute.

That doesn't sound like justice.

Random, just letting everything just by chance.

I know.

That's a good point.

You're not leveling the playing field.

That's true.

I mean, there's no way.

When you have these ridiculous opinions like the left does, you can't make it work.

It's not workable.

So they divided this up into two.

So

the split is interesting on several different levels.

Elizabeth Warren is probably the most interesting piece of this because

she is not there to fight against Bernie Sanders or Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.

None of the frontrunners are in her debate.

It's just her.

And it's the first one.

It's the first one.

Yes.

So there may be an audience.

Yes.

The next time, there may not be that audience at the kitty's table.

Right.

And they're trying to say it's not the kitty table, but it's hard to claim that because she is basically in third place in most polls.

And there's no one else in the top five in this debate.

So she's in this position where I think this helps her.

There's been arguments on both sides of this.

I believe it helps her because she doesn't have to do really anything.

She's not a target of a lot of the lower candidates because she's in third place.

You don't tack third.

And all she has to do is kind of trot out some basic policy proposals that will be well received.

And she doesn't have to worry about getting any fights and losing.

My guess is she's going to come out of this unscathed.

Now, Elizabeth Warren is uniquely capable of screwing things up.

So she may be able to do that.

She may also, I mean, if you're at 0%

and you can get into a fight with number three.

Yeah, I mean, it might be worth it.

It might be worth trying.

This is the sort of Apollo Creed

concept in that in Rocky, he's like, he's flipping through the book of all the unknown candidates.

Like, how about this guy?

Ah, he's dead.

He's retired.

What about the Italian stallion?

And his trainer smartly says he's a Southpaw.

I don't want you messing around with any Southpaws.

Like, that's the problem here.

You have big hitters who are just going to, they don't care.

There's nothing to lose for Rocky Balboa.

There's nothing to lose for, you know, Tulsi Gabbard or John Delaney.

They're at 0%.

Correct.

What are they going to do?

They can take all sorts of shots.

That's why I think, though, I think on the other debate, that's going to be more of an issue.

People are going to do that to Biden.

They may even do it to Sanders.

I mean, Warren is a secondary figure in all of this, and I don't think is going to be as big a target.

So she may come through this unscathed.

I think that the split helps her.

I think it also helps people like Corey Booker, Beto O'Rourke, and Amy Klobuchar, who are at that level where they're usually 2% or above, which is

actually

notable compared to a lot of these candidates that are at zero.

But Beto O'Rourke is coming in at 4% of the vote, 5% of the vote.

He has a chance to actually be on a big stage and be the focus.

He may be able to make his name.

Same thing with Corey Booker, who...

In front of every stage will always try to draw attention to himself.

He's going to be able to maybe have a chance at that.

Klobuchar is supposed to be a a good debater.

What movie character is he going to be tonight?

Oh, I don't know.

I mean, Spartacus, he's used already.

Hercules.

Maybe he just comes out and says, I am Batman.

Yeah, I like it.

He could.

And just start with that.

So let me ask you this, too.

If it comes down between

Biden and

Bernie Sanders,

who gets the nomination?

I think it's Biden.

I think it's Biden.

If it comes down between Biden and Elizabeth Warren, who gets the nomination?

I think there it's Biden.

I think it's Biden by a breath.

Yeah, it's closer, I think.

I think Sanders has his hardcore crew, but that's it.

That's it.

I think Warren can bring a little more people along.

I think if it's Biden and Kamala Harris, I think that is.

If she can perform well, and I think she's hurt by this debate split, by the way, because she's kind of put in this position where the Sanders Biden thing is going to be top tier.

So anybody under that, and I think that includes Buda Jej, it includes Harris, it includes Gillibrand.

It's going to be struggling to get attention.

But if

she can do a decent job, she walks that line between the groups better than some of these other candidates.

Like, you know, she's come out with some real pro-Israel comments, Kamala Harris, which is kind of shocking.

Budajej, I think, has that potential as well.

You know, I think someone like a de Blasio would be better served to be in that second debate because he is a guy who is going to take these big bomb shots and try to, you know, draw attention to himself.

And the fact that he's in this debate with Elizabeth Warren and that maybe less people are watching and that actually might hurt a guy like de Blasio.

He's on tonight.

But I think like Kamala Harris, Buddha Jej,

and Gillibrand, although I don't see how Gillibrand's ever coming out of the dark corners of this race she currently is in.

If you had any chance, you'd like to see Gillibrand, if you're in her campaign, in this debate with Elizabeth Warren, where maybe someone else shines.

Someone other than Elizabeth Warren will make a name for themselves or have some sort of moment here.

And in the other debate, it might not happen because you've got Sanders and Biden fighting it out.

Then you also have Harrison Budic.

You have four of the top five contenders all at the same time.

If you're in that bottom tier, how are you breaking out of that?

It's going to be difficult for, you know,

someone like Eric Swalwell, right?

Like, how does Eric Swalwell is the worst?

But

how does he make any noise in that race?

You got four top tiers.

That's what everyone's going to care about.

The other one, you have a chance for a secondary candidate to make some noise.

And that's why a Booker or Klobuchar could actually make some,

Beto, maybe do some damage here.

Elizabeth Warren just needs to hold her own.

She just needs to just look presidential and hold on.

Survive the night.

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