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It was kind of a

confusing 24 hours here with the Trump administration and with the

administration or the regime in Iran.

What is going on?

Well, we'll try to make heads or tails of it.

Last night, we had orders to strike Iran.

We had planes already in the air.

We had our military ships already positioned.

And at the last minute it was called off for some reason.

The White House won't respond why, but the president had given the go order and then rescinded it.

This is significant news.

And we have to decide, wait a minute, wait a minute, what's going on?

Is this worth it?

Who's right?

Because you listen to the press.

I don't think you're any closer to the truth.

So let's start at the beginning.

What's really going on with Iran?

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So, last night

I wake up and I

look at the news and I see that the president has authorized a strike on Iran and that we had dispatched

military

and we had already shot planes off and they were on their way.

And I don't know what their target was.

I would imagine their nuclear facilities, et cetera, et cetera.

And we had our ships positioned also to attack.

Now, he gave the go order.

Now, when we found out about it, is when the go order then was rescinded.

Now, I'm trying to remember, Stu, have you ever seen

a go order rescinded before in your lifetime?

Usually, I'm sure there have been some, but they're not widely reported.

The next day, in particular, maybe you find that out

in a history book, right?

Like 10 years later, when you're reviewing what went on, I don't think I can ever remember seeing something where the next day, kind of in real time,

the night of, that this was sort of reversed, which makes me wonder,

is this exactly what Donald Trump wants them to think happened, right?

Like, is this exactly the type of thing where you're saying

Trump wants to say, look,

he's warning Iran, look, we were about to do this, and that's how close you are to crossing this line.

I'll give you one more chance.

I wonder if that's true.

So there's a true.

Yeah, now

there's a couple of ways to look at this.

And I want to take this all apart this hour.

And I just want to take you through some critical thinking on this.

Because, you know, if you listen to the press, I listened to the daily this morning from the New York Times.

I'm Michael Barbaro, and this is

the daily.

Hi, I'm your host, and this is the way you're supposed to talk on shows like this.

So I listened, and if you're listening to the New York Times, you're listening to the

left, you're hearing the story that Donald Trump is a warmonger and that people in his administration and the president have just been itching for a fight.

Donald Trump is not a warmonger.

Okay, let's be really clear on that.

There is no way that you can look at Donald Trump and say, yep, he's a warmonger.

Where is the record of him warmongering?

He has been against every action the United States has taken, I think, in the last 20 years.

I think, I think he may have been for the initial strike in

Afghanistan.

But after that, he wasn't for any of that.

He was one of the most outspoken people about you're destabilizing the Middle East.

This is stupid.

This is bad.

What are we doing?

Time to end the war.

Bring the guys home.

So let's be very clear.

Donald Trump is not itching for a fight.

Donald Trump is not a warmonger.

Now, you could say that the people around Donald Trump, well, they're warmongers.

I'm Michael Barbaro, and I want to talk to you about warmongering.

Well, that has to, you have to take a very cynical view of people like John Bolton.

John Bolton, who I would consider a friend,

John Bolton, who is a guy who I have talked to many, many, many, many, many times.

I agree with him probably 90% of the time, full disclosure, because I think he is a truth teller.

He is a guy who doesn't put up with garbage.

He's very much Ronald Reagan.

They're lying to you.

Trust but verify.

Let's not be dopes here.

Now, 20 years ago, when John Bolton and I first started talking, you could say that he might have been more war-mongering when it came to Iran than he is right now.

Because just like North Korea, if they get the bomb, they are going to be on the world stage whether you like it or not.

And is the minute they have that, they will do exactly what North Korea is doing, and that is whatever the hell they want.

Now, the Obama administration emboldened them.

Trump knew that this was a bad deal, so he rejected that deal, pulled it off the table, because that's the only way that you can stop Iran.

You either have to do military strikes and hope you don't destabilize the entire Middle East all over again,

you either strike

and take them out and have regime change

through a military action, which I think we've had 20 years now of going, that doesn't always work out so well.

Or you encourage and you kind of do what Ronald Reagan did with a Pope and Margaret Thatcher.

Now, let's just go through this.

These were two attacks on two tankers.

That's what happened.

Oil tankers were coming out into the straits right there by Iran, and they're coming out.

They're two tankers from

two separate

countries.

Do you remember which ones they were, Stu?

They were not enemies of ours.

And this straight, can you just look up where the tankers come from, Stu?

Wasn't it Saudi Arabia and Japan, wasn't it?

Was it Japan?

It could be.

Just look it up just to make sure.

But

they're

Western.

I know this.

I mean, they do business with the West.

So if it's Saudi Arabia, it's not a Western country, but they do business.

Providing us oil and providing Europe oil.

So now what would be the motivation for the United States to blow up two tankers?

To pin it on Iran?

Wow, that seems pretty dicey because if we got caught, I don't think that would work out well.

And in today's world, you generally get caught.

It would be an enormous conspiracy.

So, New York Times and anybody else that wants to go down that maybe we were involved, which I haven't heard yet, but it is implied, I think, in reporting.

This is kind of suspicious.

Okay, all right, I'll take you at that.

Now, the Pentagon says that they have the evidence.

They can show it.

They can show everything about it.

Now, maybe they can, maybe they can't, but let's just think logically.

What would our motivation be?

You would have to think, well, the United States is going to blow up the tankers.

So that will hurt our allies because that will disrupt oil coming.

Now, we've got lots of oil, so we could be fine, but Europe's not.

Now, Donald Trump is a capitalist.

He believes in making money.

Hmm.

He doesn't want to disrupt oil because that could collapse the economy of the United States if the economy of Europe also collapses.

Boy, that's quite a stretch.

I have to think this guy and those around him are absolute madmen.

That there's no logic going on.

Here's a group of people that say they're for the free market, but they're going to set up Iran by blowing up two tankers.

That will hurt Europe, especially if there's a war.

Hmm.

How's that going to work out for his election?

Now, what is the motivation of Iran?

Well, Iran is being squeezed hard by the United States, and they're collapsing.

Now, if you wanted to do the

Ronald Reagan Pope, Margaret Thatcher thing, you need a Pope and Margaret Thatcher to show up.

Can anyone point to anyone in Europe that has a spine to stand against the leading country of terrorism in Europe.

Do you find a Thatcher?

Do you find a Pope?

For this to be effective, you have to get Europe off of the fence.

Ah, Mr.

Beck, that's why the United States is doing it.

Yes, but again, you have to think that the people in our Pentagon and on our side are absolute madmen.

I'm not willing to go there.

I'm willing to be suspicious.

I'm willing to say, well, let's look at the evidence.

But I'm not willing to say that the people in our Pentagon and the White House and the President is so warmongering that he would do this.

Because it just doesn't, it won't work.

It would not work.

They need to send a message to Europe.

We have you by the short hairs.

We have you right where we want you.

If you stand with them, we can disrupt your economy and your oil that's why europe didn't come out and say no iran didn't do it it's why nobody in europe came out and said yes iran did do it What did they say?

France and Germany came out and said, well, I think we should proceed with caution here.

I'm not really sure

if this is enough time to be able to really analyze if it was them.

They didn't say it wasn't.

They didn't say it was.

Now, the press will say, well, see, this is how much trust is lost.

No, that's not how much trust is lost.

They know in Germany and in France that they are surrounded by people who are like-minded in their faith,

who are terrorists,

who would like to disrupt France and Germany.

And they know any war with Iran will not go well internally.

They also know any war with Iran, it will disrupt their economy.

So what you have here is a bunch of people without a spine or you could look at it positively and say it's just a bunch of pragmatists.

This won't work out well for us.

So we're just going to play it here on the side.

That is what Iran does not want to happen.

The United States does not want this to happen either.

Pick a side.

There is no Margaret Thatcher and there is no Pope,

but there appears to be a Reagan.

Now,

this Reagan has been saying, Well, look at, you know, there's an evil regime.

It's an evil regime.

Yes, that when something happened, they blew our drone out of the sky two days ago.

What was the president's response?

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So, Gwen, we have the countries of origin here for these ships.

There's been actually a total of six attacks, kind of going back here.

The four countries involved, Japan, Norway, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia, were the four victims of these attacks and that have been largely blamed on Iran.

Right.

And I don't want to call those friends, all of those friends, two are friends and two are frenemies,

but they do business with us.

In this case, you would call them friends and not friends of Iran.

So the United States would think that it'd have to get away with

bombing or destroying tankers of those four

countries.

Get away with it.

Now, that doesn't seem like something that we're

itching to do,

especially since the president has a long-standing record of let's not destabilize more.

All right.

So they blow down one of our drones.

And what is the president's first response?

Listen.

Iran made a big mistake.

This drone was in international waters.

Clearly, we have it all documented.

It's documented scientifically, not just words.

And they made a very bad mistake.

Okay,

you'll find out.

Are you willing to find a whole lot of Iran?

You'll find out.

You'll find out.

Obviously.

Obviously, you know, we're not going to be talking too much about it.

You're going to find out.

They made a very big mistake.

Now, he went on in that press conference to talk about how he has a feeling.

I have a gut feeling.

And I could be wrong, but usually I'm right.

Usually I'm right.

That they just made a mistake.

That this was somebody low level.

that just

made a mistake, made the wrong call, blew this out of the sky, freaked out, and it was just a mistake.

Now, we know that's not true because we have them screaming, Allah Akbar,

and the administration of Iran coming out and saying, you know, Allah Akbar, look what we've done to the great Satan.

So we know that's not true, but the president was giving them an opportunity to say, hey, mistake.

Now, is that what a warmonger does?

Is that what a warmonger does?

So to believe that

Donald Trump is doing this because he wants war, what you have to believe is that our president is absolutely out of his mind and a warmonger and just wants death.

Or if you look at his record, you'd say, okay, he's not.

But the people around him are out of their mind and they just want death.

They want war at any cost.

And they're so stupid, they think they can attack the assets of four allies and get away with it.

Or there's another option.

The United States is just a Jewish pawn.

Well, that sounds a little like Ecasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders and everybody else, doesn't it?

That's probably a really easy one if you believe in socialism.

Yes, it's a Jewish conspiracy.

But why would the president come out and say it's a mistake?

Why would the president come out and order a strike and then come back and say, nope, cancel it?

I think the most easy thing to believe here is that the president means what he says when he doesn't want to destabilize the Middle East.

And this is a way of sending a very, very strong message without

actually lobbying a single missile.

Isn't this what we should be hoping for?

Could this be a kind of dramatic strategy here?

That the president is coming out and saying,

you know what?

I got the guys at the Pentagon, and they want to do something, and I want to do something.

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

Last second, no, I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it.

Don't make me do this.

I'm in your corner because I think you made a mistake.

Oh,

I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.

This is a president who is signaling to our enemies, I got a twitchy eye.

But he's also at the same time signaling to you, he's not crazy and out of control and has some sort of Iranian bloodlust.

That's what's happening in the Middle East today.

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So the New York Times just started to report now that

the word is the reason why this strike was called off is because Donald Trump was notified that maybe 150 people could be killed in this strike, as high as 150, and he didn't feel that that was equal to a drone.

He thought that was too high of a price, which kind of, again, hurts the left's warmonger kind of story, but everything hurts the left's warmonger story on this.

Most importantly, Donald Trump's long lifetime record

against destabilizing the Middle East.

It is my contention also that that is something that the Pentagon has been against for a very long time.

Don't go into Iran.

Don't go into Iran.

It's why I said in 2004: the real target was not Saddam Hussein.

The real target was the regime in Iran.

We know who Iran is, and the idea was to put freedom on both sides, and it didn't work, but to put freedom on both sides and then squeeze Iran from both sides and be able to pop the head of that snake because you do not want to go in and have a war.

So,

what's really happening?

I think that's what's happening.

I think the president is just trying to send the message to Iran: I'll go to war, but I really don't want to.

Stop this right now.

We brought Pat Gray in to get his opinion, and also I'd love to hear some commentary from Stu on this as well.

Yes,

hi, Glenn.

I'm kind of fascinated,

as you guys mentioned at the beginning of the hour, that we're hearing about this now.

That,

you know, I can't recall a time

where,

and maybe there has been one, but I can't remember a time where the next day we heard, yeah, there was going to be a strike yesterday, but they called it off.

And so

it wasn't, it was, it was last night

this broke.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I, it was almost immediate.

Crazy.

It's strange.

I mean, there's so many open questions, I think, with it.

I mean, it does definitely, to me, feel like a direct administration leak to say, hey, this is exactly, this is what they want Iran to hear, which is

you are this close to this line.

Don't keep crossing it.

Our president happens to be the guy who just is giving you a break here, but you better not keep crossing these lines.

And I think that is, you know, kind of the foundation of this.

But it's interesting, I think, too, in that there's this sort of two sides of Trump in that Trump obviously wants to portray strength.

He wants to,

with many things, he gives the tough talk.

He is a guy who wants to show you that he's in control.

And if he has to, he'll wipe you off the map.

At the same time, you're right, Clint.

I mean, in most conflicts, going back as long as Trump has been in the public eye, he's been on the side of not doing them.

I mean, in almost every circumstance, very, very briefly at the beginning of Iraq, he supported it, but then turned very quickly to one of the biggest critics

of Iraq.

Libya, even Smaller.

I think even in that one, he said no first, and then he said yes.

And are you talking about

when he was on Stern?

Yeah, I think that was the first interview he did about the Iraq war.

And he said initially that he supported it, but then

he wasn't for it.

I actually can't remember if

he was against it, then for it, then against it again.

He does not like these things.

It's one of the ways he sort of breaks with the orthodoxy of the Republican Party over the past 30 and 40 years.

And it's one of the things he has not changed.

I mean, he has been consistent over that.

You know, we talk about tariffs all the time.

You know, Donald Trump loves to threaten tariffs, and he loves implementing tariffs.

It's not like that with war.

He loves threatening war, but he does not like implementing it at all.

I mean, he does not want to do this.

I think that's a really good case.

His whole life, he has been for tariffs.

So, you know, he can say, look, I'm just threatening and I'm just using it as a bargaining chip.

I'm not so sure.

I'm not so sure we would see the end of these tariffs until the next president in 2024.

Because the president does believe in tariffs.

You're exactly right.

He does not believe in war.

He doesn't like it.

He's the opposite of walk softly and carry a big stick.

He's carry a big stick and walk and stomp your way into the room.

Make sure everybody knows that you're there.

But his history,

if you look at Donald Trump, and my favorite example of Donald Trump is how he got the Trump Tower built on Fifth Avenue.

And every time I tell this story, people are like, I had no idea.

Donald Trump, if you want to understand how he negotiates and what's happening with Iran right now,

is he went to his architects.

He knew that the airspace of the building that he just bought on Fifth Avenue, he only had like three or five stories.

And the airspace was owned by either Cartier or Tiffany.

I think it was Tiffany.

And they owned over his building all of the airspace.

So you not only have to buy land in New York, you have to buy the air above the land to be able to put a skyscraper up.

Well, he wanted to put one up.

And everybody said, well, Tiffany won't allow it.

They don't want that.

And he said, okay.

And he talked to his architects and he said, I want you to drop two buildings.

I want you to drop the most beautiful luxurious gold-filled building anybody's ever seen then i want you to draw up another building the ugliest monstrosity in four stories you could ever possibly imagine So he walks into a meeting with Tiffany's and he rolls out the beautiful, luxurious right here on Fifth Avenue.

It's going to be a beacon for the world, the Trump Tower.

And Tiffany's listened to him and said, yeah, we're not doing that.

You know, we own the airspace.

That's why I'm here.

But I think you're going to be reasonable because this is a beautiful, luxurious, it's going to be a beacon for the whole world.

Okay.

Tiffany wasn't moved by that argument.

He said right before he left,

okay, I tell you what, if you don't sell that to me,

what I'm going to do is I'm going to build this building.

And he rolls out this ugly monstrosity.

And he looks at them in the eye and says, and I mean it.

Don't tempt me.

I'll do it.

I want to do it.

Please make me do it.

And what happened?

By the time he got back to the office, they had called and said, okay, build your big, huge tower.

That's how Donald Trump negotiates.

He never actually has to go to war.

He negotiates in a way like, you don't want to do it, but I do.

I really want to do it.

Please make me do it.

Oh, I'm crazy.

I'll spend billions just to build a monstrosity.

I'll do it.

I want to do it.

I want to bomb you, Iran.

I want to.

I want to.

Oh, the Pentagon is begging me to do it.

I want to do it.

Don't make me do it.

But I'll do it.

I'll think about doing it right now.

I might do it.

I might do it before I get back to the White House.

Please, I want to do it.

I want to do it.

Oh, make me do it.

Would it be a beautiful, luxurious

bombing?

I think it would.

I think it'd be a

beautiful, luxurious bombing.

Listen to listen to what listen to what he's actually saying.

Join the nations.

Join the world.

Come to the family of nations.

Look, this is going to be wonderful.

We'll all live together and you'll be able to sell your oil and we'll be fine and it'll be wonderful.

It's a big, beautiful thing.

And we'll be known as the big, beautiful peacemakers for all time to come.

I want that.

But sometimes I want to bomb you more than that.

Oh, please make me bomb you.

And I think that's an effective strategy in most circumstances, right?

I mean, as long as people believe that you're twitchy enough to actually follow through,

you know, it works.

And that's what they respond to.

Yeah.

In the Middle East, that's what they seem to understand and respond to.

Yes.

They don't understand peacemakers.

No.

They think that's a sign of weakness.

But I mean, this is pretty well publicized here.

Here's a guy who's already pulled out of the Iran deal, right?

Like Barack Obama, you know, crafted the Iran deal, right?

So they already know this guy is twitchy.

Why are they testing like this?

It is amazing to me.

Like, for example, like this, this drone, which is $130 million in cost that we lost, $130 million drone, was specifically designed to be able to avoid surface-to-air missiles.

So, how exactly does Iran have the technology to be able to knock one of these things out of the sky?

I think that's a really interesting, open question.

Russia.

Yeah, I mean,

is their technology more impressive than we think?

And, you know, look,

maybe this is making me want to do it.

I want to do it.

Let me push the button.

They tell me not to push the button.

I want to push the button.

We maybe should spend time on this next week, London.

And that, like, you know, the idea of war with Iran is not the idea of war with, you know, a few missiles into Syria.

It's not a few missiles into Libya.

It's not even Iraq.

Like,

this is a.

It's not us, but it's a relatively advanced military that could give us serious problems.

I don't even think that

I agree with you, but that's not what concerns me.

What concerns me most is the power of the terrorist network that Iran has that they would employ all throughout Europe, the power that they have in the in the in the Strait to be able to really dramatically

shift resources and to stop resources from going into our allies of oil.

And the biggest thing is they have an ally, and that ally is a big Russian bear who I also want to destroy.

But I love him.

I love him.

He's great, but I'd like to destroy him.

Please let me destroy him.

I mean,

it is, I believe that Iran could be the key to

the

next global war.

That Iran could be the one that is the house that you have to topple over, and then we go into World War III.

I do know that scriptures tell us that when the bear and the

Iran

sign a treaty together, which they already have, and become allies, that

that is the Armageddon team.

That's Gog and Magog.

I say we stay away from Gog and Magog.

I'd like to stay away from that one.

I think that's not a good thing.

I think that's not a good thing.

But then again, I kind of like Gog and Magog.

I'd like to see them come together.

It's like the gatekeeper and the key master.

Oh, yeah.

Make me, let them come together.

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I got to warn you, they found ways to,

oh man,

it's just the big

cereal companies that want your children to die of cancer.

Ah,

they found another way

to get that cancer into your kids.

Sugar cereal.

If you saw these headlines, Honey Nut Cheerios is going to give your kids cancer.

Basically, it's almost, you know, a study found that they found dangerous levels of glyphosate in these cereals.

Glyphosate is the thing that's inhabited.

But it makes your heart healthy.

Right.

It makes it makes your heart healthy.

Whatever.

I don't care what the bee tells me.

It's delicious and I'm eating it.

Whether it gives me cancer or not, I'm still going for it.

But so I decided to look into the actual details of the study, which is just, it's absurd.

So first of all, it comes from this like left-wing environmental group.

And it is a not shockingly not peer-reviewed.

I thought peer-reviewed science was the only way to do science.

Not peer-reviewed.

They did not release their data.

They did not release their methods.

They're just telling everyone that we found this and we swear it's true.

So you have to, first of all, take the, you know, face value, this environmental group that's against

against, you know, the, you know, Roundup and glyphosate and everything to believe that.

But let's just take them at their word for a minute, just for the, the thought experiment here.

How do they figure out what is toxic when it comes to levels of chemicals?

We all know that everything has a toxic level, including water, right?

Like you drink too much water, you will eventually die.

So there's a toxic level of everything.

So how do they do this with something like glyphosate?

What they did is they first go to a species that's much more likely to get cancer than us, which is mice.

And then they just load these things up.

I mean, they load these mice up with mice to see if they can figure out what the toxic level is.

So they take the absolute minimum level that may cause harm.

It's about 140,000 milligrams a day.

Then because they want to adjust it for children, they lower that number by about 80%.

Okay, so now you're at 30,000 milligrams a day.

Then they divide it by 10 because they want to make sure that we're super safe.

Okay, so now we're at 3,000 milligrams a day.

Then for safety, to figure out the minimum level,

they divide it by 100.

So now we're at 30 milligrams a day.

Okay.

Wait.

This is how they figure out the level.

This is how the EPA figures out the level of what's okay for you to have.

So it's way less than the absolute minimum that they would give to mice and it would cause any issues.

Then California does what California does.

They take the EPA standard and they lower that standard by 97%.

Okay, so now we're at 1.1 milligrams per day you're allowed to have by this.

So how would you.

So I could have 1.1 in California, I could have 1.1 milligram of

glyphosate killer.

Yeah, right, a day, and it'd be completely fine.

So how much would you have to eat cereal-wise to get to 1.1 milligrams a day?

You would have to have 80 bowls a day, every day for 80 years, and that would give you a 1 in 10,000 chance of having harm against you.

Oh my gosh, I've never even thought of General Mills or, you know, Tony the Tiger's attorneys, but I hope they have big attorneys and they go after this crazy environmental group.

Yeah, well, Tony the Tiger actually has an attorney.

Fruit Loops.

You didn't know that?

He is.

Yeah, he did have a cruise legal.

I think he did.

Yeah, that's right.

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That's the only thing that got you onto this cruise, Stu?

Well, I did hear that you stacked it with lots of really smart people.

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So like you're going to, they're going to be going over there.

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But you never go to these things.

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Like this one is once in a lifetime.

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I do really think this is a once-in-a-lifetime thing.

I'm going to bring my kids to it.

I mean,

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The media just says that our crazy president, he just wants war.

Oh, I want to do it.

Please make me do it.

Yes, I want to push that button.

But what really happened last night?

He gave the go-ahead to go after the missile system of Iran and then found out that it could cost as many as 150 Iranian lives and said, I want to do it.

I want to do it, but I shouldn't do it.

Oh, make me do it, Iran.

What really happened yesterday?

And what should we be getting getting out of this?

What does war with Iran even mean?

We'll go to Bill O'Reilly in one minute.

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having a conversation with one of the cool cats, one of the real swingers of Manhattan.

Yes, it's Mr.

Bill O'Reilly.

Hello, Bill.

How are you?

Yeah, that's me, Beck.

Yeah, how I am.

Yeah, that's you.

You were just...

When I think of...

well, not personally, but I know

you were 70 when the beat Knicks were.

Yeah, me and Maynard G.

Krebs.

You remember Maynard G.

Krebs?

I know the name, and I don't know why.

Doby Gillis.

Doby Gillis, that's right.

Yes,

sitcoms of all time.

Work.

No.

All right, you want to talk about Iran, right?

Yeah, either that or you're going to end up with Fibber McGee's closet.

So, yes, I'm going to go to.

Yeah, we can ruminate about 50 sitcoms.

First of all, you know, you and everyone else are making the fundamental mistake of believing the New York Times.

And I mean, I sit here and I'm just amazed that the whole country...

So the New York Times, once again, comes out with anonymous sources and says, oh,

Trump is going to blow the hell out of them, but then at the last minute, he decided he wasn't.

And everybody came home okay that might be true but there's just a good possibility that it isn't true because the authors of the article have been wrong um 95 of the time in the past what they've written so i say to myself they had i will tell you this bill they did because i looked for the writers of this article and i thought okay which writer is it um but they did now again just because there's more people that are usually wrong doesn't make it right but there were about 10 authors of this article they seem to have this

come on what do you are you telling me there's ten reporters talking to the same person

or no here's what i'm saying here's what i'm here's what i'm saying here's what i'm saying i don't believe the new york times because it's the new york times and i don't believe the administration because it's the administration i will look at the facts on the ground and this uh to me makes sense and it actually works in donald Trump's favor.

Okay, but

not if I just take the New York Times.

But the analysis is based on your gut feeling and your frame of reference from what's happened in the past.

So that's what you should tell your listeners: that, look, this is what I think happened based upon what I know about the Trump administration.

But all morning long, I mean, you empower an organization that has been absolutely dishonest and it's replicable.

Well, last last hour.

No, no, no, last hour, that's exactly what I did.

I'm sorry in my introduction to you, I didn't do the

can't be giving these people any kind of validity.

So I think the key question for all Americans is this.

What do we want to do about Iran?

We as a country, we the people?

All right, so you have to start there.

What do you want to do about them?

So we have that same question with North Korea and to some extent China.

So, okay, Trump doesn't really want to do anything with them.

He'd like them to go away,

but he doesn't want to get involved because that's not going to help him.

All right.

If you're Mr.

Davis.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Here's where the media is really doing a disservice to America

because they continue to try to make him into a hate monger and a warmonger.

He is the exact opposite.

I don't know of him.

He never has wanted that.

He hates that.

And

one of the things that Trump

I get into in the upcoming book is why.

And I'm not going to get into it now because it's not important for today's conversation, but there's a reason that Trump does not want to have a confrontation in the Middle East that involves the U.S.

military.

However, he's going to have to deal with Iran, whether he likes it or not.

You're going to have to deal with it.

Now, if you think back to the way Bush the Younger dealt with Iraq,

he lost control of it.

So that's a lesson for all Americans.

Bush the Younger lost control of it.

All right?

Lyndon Johnson lost control of it in in Vietnam.

Correct.

Correct.

Easy to lose control.

Easy.

Correct.

And Trump knows this.

By the way, I have some breaking news, Bill.

Trump just confirmed the reporting is accurate.

On that he pulled back.

Did he give any

did he say what he pulled back?

Yeah, so I have the quote here.

What did it say?

What is it?

It says, Monday, this is a quote from Donald Trump on Twitter.

He tweeted this.

On Monday, they shot down an unmanned drone flying in international waters.

We were cocked and loaded to retaliate last night on three different sites when I asked how many will die.

150 people, sir, was the answer from a general.

Ten minutes before the strike, I stopped it because it was not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone.

And I think that makes him worse.

Was there anybody in the air?

The decision that he made was based upon how many civilians or people around the sites would die.

That makes sense.

Which the New York Times

Times reported.

Yes,

that's what they.

Well, no,

it was not in the initial story.

They did, you know, they've reported on it since, but it was not in the initial story.

They had that by this morning.

And I think if you know, I saw what the New York Times was, and the theme of their story was an indecisive president who was afraid.

Yeah, that's because they don't know

that story.

And you're exactly right.

And that is what I've been saying all day today.

This is a guy who doesn't like war, but he will go to war if he has to, but he doesn't want to.

The worst thing you can do is go to war with Iraq.

The people in his administration also know that.

The Pentagon has been saying that for 30 years.

It's why I think George Bush went to Iraq instead of Iran, because Iran is the real problem in the Middle East, that and Saudi Arabia, but you can't go to war with them.

So, Bush's theory was to put freedom on both sides and pop the head of the snake.

For the purposes of helping the American people, which I know you and Stu desperately want to do every second you're on the air.

True.

All right.

So, let's get back to what do you want to do?

Because that's where you start when you develop a policy.

Now, my opinion is you have to get that government out.

Have to.

But you can't do it militarily at this point.

Because Bill, I said this.

Correct.

And I said this last hour.

I believe that Donald Trump would like to do what Reagan did to the Soviet Union, but what Reagan did to the Soviet Union required a Thatcher and a pope.

Tell me who in the world is a Thatcher or a Pope.

Right.

But here's what you can do.

And this is not that difficult.

So

Iran is a troubled country because the currency is

disappearing, almost like Venezuela.

So

if you're in Iran and you're holding their money, their money is becoming worthless.

And unemployment for the folks is very, very high, tough to make a living.

Those are the two things that are happening because of the sanctions that the United States and other nations have imposed.

So now, if I'm Trump, I say, all right, look, we've had enough.

These people are dangerous and they're trying to disrupt the world.

So we're going to have total sanctions.

No one buys.

So the United States is going to do that.

We hope NATO does it.

We're asking NATO to do it.

And if any NATO country continues to trade with Iran on any basis, we will take note of that.

We're asking China and Russia to do it.

We know they won't.

But we're asking every decent country in the world no trade with Iran at all.

Nothing.

Now,

you're going to get maybe 65, 70% compliance on that, because you can put a herd on the NATO countries if they don't cooperate.

And that's going to be enough, I think, after a year or maybe 18 months to get these mullahs out.

I think that the people in the Persians would

would

Iran is Persia.

So the Persian people would rise up and throw them out because they're not going to have anything to eat.

It's going to be like as well.

All right.

So let me play devil's advocate on that because, Bill, I think that's the only logical thing that we have left to do.

But let me play devil's advocate.

Let me play the New York Times, which may not be the advocate, maybe the devil himself, I'm not sure.

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Talking about here.

Friday.

Glad it's Friday.

So glad.

All right.

I'm going to be really pissed if we go to war on a Friday.

We cannot go to war on a Friday because,

I mean, it'll wreck my weekend.

It will really wreck my weekend.

Anyway, so let me play Devil's Advocate.

And I actually heard this today from the New York Times.

I'm listening to Michael Barbaro and

the New York Times, the Daily.

And

they're actually saying,

you know, these sanctions, they're making Iraq or Iran more dangerous because

the tighter the sanctions, they have nothing else they can do.

And I thought, gee, that's like saying, you know, when you discipline your children or you want your children to behave a certain way and you take away their phone, well, you're causing them to be more rebellious.

No, what are you supposed to do with a group of people that won't do it?

So the press will say, and many on the left will say, this is going to make things worse total sanctions it it will trap this lion in a cage and the only way to get out is with its claws

well that's the john kerry philosophy that's what the obama administration did so well look we'll give uh we'll buy them off we'll give them all these billions of dollars that we froze and hand them that money which they did in cash

and it'll give them

any problems with them did we we didn't have any problems with them remember

New York Times.

Wow.

Come on.

A couple of years.

This is what I mean about

the New York Times and the false reporting and

failure to search for the truth.

Everybody knows that Iran and the Revolutionary Guard

has been behind the Syrian stuff, has been behind the Saudi Arabian stuff with

the terrorism that's going on down there in the south of the peninsula,

been behind the trying to

undermine the Iraq government.

That's all they do.

They don't do anything else but try to foster terrorism in the Middle East.

Everybody knows that.

So all of that is just garbage.

You know, you can do the Neville Chamberlain approach and appease, appease, appease.

I think the United States has been very reticent and not aggressive enough in Iran.

I would have done this total sanction things I suggested a long time ago.

Because you're going to have to.

You would have done it in 2003.

Yeah, you're going to have to do it.

It's going to have to come.

Once they do get a nuke, once they do become North Korea, God forbid,

then you have no good options left.

You have absolutely no good options.

They employ Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is Iran.

So Hezbollah basically can take whatever nuclear weapon they have, whether it's a thimble or a full-blown, and do whatever they want with it.

So, I mean, this is a terrorist state.

The Mullahs are a terrorist state.

It's not a rational government.

So the New York Times knows that, but won't ever say it.

Because if they said it, that would then make President Obama look bad.

And that's...

So what do you say, Bill?

What do you say to the people?

Because I got this when I worked at CNN, and it was like, are you people insane?

Are you out of your mind?

They actually said to me that, you know, the Moahs don't actually believe in all the religious garbage.

They're just saying that to appease their people, and they would never really actually use a nuke

in Israel, et cetera, et cetera.

I tend to take radical, crazy, religious people at their word.

If they say they're going to do something because God told them to, usually they mean it.

Do you believe

in 9-11 or were they not here on vacation?

Right.

Look, there's no, there are two people you can't reason with.

Stu

and no, that's a joke.

I'm glad I made a list of people.

Two people you can't reason with.

Ideological, political zealots, whether they're left or right, no reasoning with them.

All right?

Whatever

mental thing is going on up there, you're not going to get through.

And

people who are consumed with hatred.

Now, there is where you got the Mullers.

Now, I don't know what the Mullers believe, what they don't believe.

I don't know what they're doing.

I don't care.

I know they hate us.

They hate everything

that America is.

Freedom,

secular,

capitalist, whatever we are, they hate us.

And

that's what it is.

And you're not going to change it.

So why bother even discussing it?

I don't even have discussions like that.

You either get a strategy to deal with Iran or you don't.

I'm hoping President Trump and his administration can come up with one.

Right now, I don't know what their strategy is.

I'd like to know what it is.

Go ahead.

You know John Bolton, right?

Personally?

Yeah.

Okay.

I do too.

I like John Bolton.

I think he is cut from the same cloth of Reagan.

He's not a crazy man.

He's not a warmonger.

But he doesn't believe in fooling around with evil.

No, he's chaney.

That's the problem.

So the ambassador is chaney.

They're the same mindset.

And their mindset is use American power when it's necessary.

And

don't compromise and don't elongate it.

But Bolton, he's not going to

win this.

Yeah, when it's necessary.

So he believes that Iran's an evil nation has got to be taken off the map.

Not

literally.

You don't have to kill them all, but it has to be overthrown.

That's a Bolton belief.

Regime, yeah.

And but do you believe that he's only willing to do that through bloodshed, or do you think he's

not sanctions and everything else?

But I mean, he's in those discussions, so everybody

in the Trump administration knows what his strategy is.

See, again, I would like to know what the president's strategy is toward Iran.

Are you going to try to overthrow them?

I know you don't want to say that because that could make things worse.

But you've got to basically define, look,

we have this terrorist state.

causing a lot of trouble.

We believe it can't continue.

That's all.

You know, so then the Methods out, okay,

something's going to happen.

You don't have to tell them what it is, but right now we don't even know if something's going to happen.

All right.

So isn't that exactly, though, what Ronald Reagan did?

He called them an evil empire, and it can't last and it won't last.

But he still was in negotiations with them.

He still

was friendly towards Gorbachev, etc., etc.

I'll get your response when we come back.

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We're talking about

war with Iran

and, you know, bad idea.

And I don't think the White House wants it.

I don't think the Pentagon wants it.

I don't think anybody wants that.

The ones who really do kind of want some of it, at least stir everybody up, I think is Iran.

They go after four oil tankers.

And the reason why France and Germany said nothing about it, and I'd like to hear your opinion on this, Bill, we came out and said, yes, we have the evidence that it is Iran.

The foreign minister of both France and Germany came out and said, well, I mean, maybe, I mean, it's a little too early to tell.

They're just afraid of Iran causing economic disruption for them.

So of course that's what they're going to say.

Of course.

I'm going to Germany next week.

I'm going to wise up Merkel.

I'm going to, you know, actually,

okay.

I am actually going to go.

I'm going to Berlin and I'm meeting some very high-level people over there.

And you're right, absolutely right.

I mean, they don't want business to be interrupted.

That's always the way it's been.

Always the way it's been.

And the American people don't want business interrupted either.

It is Trump.

Yeah, I was going to say, I think Donald Trump is kind of the same

right.

This would be the worst thing that could happen for Donald Trump is the war.

The body sanctions on him and tell everybody to cooperate, or, you know, we won't buy their stuff.

So that's the way to do it in the short term.

And then long term, you've got to figure out what your strategy is.

It's going to take a little buying.

But you mentioned before the break, Reagan.

Reagan was obsessed with the Soviet Union.

Obsessed.

And if you read Killing Reagan, I know you read it twice, Beck,

it goes all the way back to his Hollywood days, to Ronald Reagan's Hollywood days, when he was one of the guys who actually informed on communists in Hollywood.

Reagan was actually an informer.

And

he was so

angry that he was exposed in that area that he said, Look, I did what I thought I was right back in Hollywood because these people are off-the-chart evil.

So it was personal for Reagan to get the Soviet Union.

And that's that's what that was all about.

All right, Bill, let's change the subject.

Let's go through a couple of other things quickly.

First of all, you just mentioned Angela Merkel.

I wasn't going to bring this up, but did you see the video of her shaking?

Do you believe that was just dehydrated?

What people don't know about that is that right before that video was taken, she was listening to Chubby Checker, The Twist.

And that's what that was all about, Beck.

Really?

Really?

Are you making Glenn Miller jokes too later?

You know, what do you think?

You think your audience is like 18?

Is that what you think to be here?

No, I don't.

No, I don't.

I just like making you feel old.

I know, I know, I know.

I just like to make you feel old.

You can't.

Let's go on.

Look, on this cruise, people are going to see me standing right next to you, Beck.

All right.

And they're going to, gee, I didn't know O'Reilly was 10 years old, younger than Beck.

I didn't know that.

They're going to see you with their own eyes.

I'm going to get right to the chase.

The far-left thing

that Trump did on Tuesday night is very important for this country and for Trump.

But I don't care about Trump.

I'm not rooting for whatever.

I'm going to watch them all, as you know.

You're talking about his rally.

Yes.

He goes over the most stuff, total waste of time.

We got it.

You won.

All right.

We don't need to hear it five more times.

Okay.

Then he segues into what I've been doing on billorilly.com for a month.

You've got to define

the danger from Corey Booker and from Bernie Sanders and from Kamala Harris and the whole crew.

You've got to define it so Americans know this is a dangerous operation, this far-left business.

And then he started to do it, Trump, with the Kavanaugh stuff,

and then he got in.

But he didn't do it enough.

This is the lead beside the economy.

This is the lead.

Here's what's going on that everybody should know.

This far-left cabal

has hundreds of millions of dollars at its disposal.

Okay, number one.

And it's not as big as you think.

It's just well

funded and well-directed.

And organized.

All right?

They're on social media.

There's five or six organizations and they have hundreds of millions of dollars to spread their propaganda.

What they're trying to do is to convince young Americans and minorities that you live in an evil country.

America's evil.

Not Iran, not Russia, America.

That is the goal.

Convince gullible, naive, ill-informed people that they are living in an evil country.

And therefore, that's what reparations is all about.

That's what social justice is all about.

That's what let everybody out of prison is all about.

That's what the homeless overrun cities is all about.

It's all America is evil, evil, evil.

If you can get that mindset established, if you can get enough Americans believing that garbage, then

you can overthrow traditional America.

So now here's the thing, Bill.

That's what is

on here.

Correct.

Now, you not only are trying to do that,

but as a side benefit, you also will

discredit everything so much that the average person who is not into all of this and just wants to do their job, they just become sick of it.

And so they're not paying attention and they don't know, they don't want to pick a side because they don't want to be like that.

And so the people who have the most to lose don't stand up

because they don't know what to do because they haven't really thought of it.

Well, that's tired.

They're just tired of it.

I'm not feeling sorry for the morons.

I'm sorry.

If you're a lazy person who all you want to do is play video games all day long and you don't know anything, I don't feel sorry for you.

So I don't either.

But I will tell you, Bill, that I think that that that is a hasty generalization of who I'm talking about.

I think there are a lot of parents out there who are so struggling with everything else in their life, school.

I mean, raising a kid.

I got a 15-year-old kid.

Well, you know, your kids.

Raising them in today's world is handful enough, and you think, I am just overwhelmed.

You watch this stuff on TV, you don't feel because this is the lie, you don't feel you can change anything.

Pardon me.

Two words: Buck up.

This is important.

Okay?

Agree.

If you want

your country,

you know, my slogan on billorilly.com is take your country back.

Because this is the first time in history that you have had a radical movement that has been embraced and enabled by the media.

You have never had that before in America.

Never.

Now,

closest to

back to the fight.

Closest you came to that.

I'm sorry.

Satellite delay.

Closest thing you came to that is probably FDR, where they were in bed with him, but they were not in bed with the riots on the streets.

But it was a fundamental philosophical agreement with Franklin Roosevelt, not

we hate our country.

Correct.

You've got to understand the people like George Soros and these people hate the USA.

They believe that Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were white supremists.

They believe that this country is built on the back of exploiting minorities.

They believe it is wrong and immoral to stop anyone from coming here.

Anyone.

So what do you think?

What do you think will absolutely destroy this country in 20 years, unless they're...

It won't take 20 years.

Yeah, it won't take 20 years.

I bet we have another five left in this at this pace.

No, I don't think it's a good idea.

I hope it's 20 years.

Okay, so what do you take away from

Trump wouldn't have been elected if it had tipped, if the point had tipped.

All right?

So

the majority still love their country.

But if you're going to sit it out,

then you're going to lose your country.

And I am so angry about this because I see it better than anybody because I went through it.

Go ahead.

Bill,

what do you take away from Chuck Todd

having a moment where he's saying, which should not be courageous by any stretch?

Why is it I can't critique Ocasio-Cortez?

What she said was wrong, was wrong, and we shouldn't be standing for it.

What do you take away from the lesson that everyone on the left gave to him on shut your mouth and sit down?

Listen,

this is,

it's even worse than Chuck Todd.

It's Biden.

Biden can't even come out and say, you know what?

I didn't like these

southern senators because I believed they were segregationists, but I worked with him and we advanced the good of the country.

He's a racist.

But he's got to apologize.

Now, a constant court says, if I handed her my book, Killing the SS, if I handed it to her and said, look, why don't you read this and find out what concentration camps really were?

Because you're lying.

You're not just misinformed.

You're lying.

There are no concentration camps on the southern border.

And there never were.

You're lying.

Here's the proof.

Read it.

She would not read it.

She would not do it.

She doesn't care about it, the truth.

She despises her country.

She wants to tear the fabric of the country down.

And this is a- So do you believe that

I know, but do you believe that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, et cetera, et cetera, hate and despise our country and want to tear it down, or are now afraid of

the left, that they are just

intimidated because they don't want to be torn to pieces like O'Reilly was.

And look, when they tore me to pieces two years ago, everybody got the message.

All right?

The corporation aren't going to back you.

They're not going to back you.

And you're going to get torn to pieces by the media that despises you.

Well, everybody got it.

Pelosi doesn't want people going looking around into her life.

She doesn't want that.

just, this is just beginning for Biden.

They're going to try to tear his throat out.

Okay?

And this is what I'm saying.

Biden's a white man.

Just because he's a white man, he's not worthy to be president.

Now, you think I'm an extremist?

You think I'm saying?

This is exactly what's happening.

No, it is exactly.

You are exactly right on this.

Now, let me ask you this.

Does this work to his advantage with the independents who are sick of all of this stuff when he says, I'm not apologizing for anything.

Yes.

He stood up.

Doesn't that work to his advantage?

Yesterday.

That was the first time he stood up to them, by the way.

All right.

Yes, I know.

He stood up to them yesterday because I know somebody told him to do it.

And that helps him with the not crazy Democrats.

Not all Democrats are crazy or hate their country.

All right.

I agree.

This far-left cabal is about 15%,

but they control the media and they've got unlimited funds.

Yep.

Yep.

All right.

Bill O'Reilly.

Been a fascinating conversation with you today.

Looking forward to it next week.

Have a safe trip with Angela Merkel.

Yeah, I'll talk to you before I leave, and you can give me some tips, Bec.

And in the meantime, I want everybody to go to billorilly.com for wisdom.

Yeah.

Wisdom.

Wisdom.

Yeah.

And it's found there.

Are you having a guest host next week?

No, no, no.

It's me.

It's me.

It's me.

Oh,

well, that's an interesting theory.

Bill O'Reilly.

Bill O'Reilly from Long Island.

BillO'Reilly.com.

Thank you very much, Bill.

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Stu?

Yes.

I mean, don't be so excited where you just jump right in and you're excited about things.

Well, I'm sure what you're about to do is

I can cut you from this cruise at any time.

I don't think that's true.

You've mentioned it to, I mean, I would assume 90 to 95% of people who have booked the cruise so far are there for me.

So you would be screwing all of them.

No, we just did a no, we just did a poll.

Nobody wants you to come.

Really?

Nobody wants you to come.

This is a mercy thing for me.

Wow.

I can't believe, I can't believe that you're going to go to Israel with me.

I mean, that's crazy.

Are you pretty excited?

Are you going to be with me in Israel?

I mean,

with you on the same ship, yes.

Actually, like, hanging out with you?

No, absolutely not.

That was not stipulated at all as part of this agreement.

But I will be on the same ship, hopefully on the other side of it.

Yeah.

It's always safer to be with me.

It's safer to be with me.

Oh, yeah, because you're not a target.

And you want to go to Disney World with me, too, because Disney doesn't ever want me there.

They're like, you cause people angst.

They're standing in line.

They're like, oh my gosh, that's Glenn Beck, ick.

So, you know, they

hide me.

So you want to go to Disney with me because it's fantastic.

I keep calling them going, you know who you don't want wandering around in your park?

Me.

But I'm thinking about going.

Oh, dear God.

We could get you in and out of all the rides.

You can be in and out of this entire park in a day.

What do you say?

Okay.

Anyway,

the cruise is going to be just remarkable.

You don't have to take your wallet out ever for anything.

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It's all inclusive, including the airfare.

This takes you to beautiful Italy, I'm just saying.

And we're going to start with our families.

We're bringing our families.

And I hope you can figure out a way to bring yours as well.

And we're going to start in Venice.

Then we're going to Croatia, which I've

never had any desire.

But if you watch the Game of Thrones, it's where, what is it, King's Landing was before it was destroyed by the dragons.

I hope they have rebuilt it.

They better have rebuilt that place because it was beautiful.

Anyway,

when you see that, you're like, oh my gosh, is that beautiful?

We're going to stop there.

We're going to go to Athens and to Israel.

So it's going to be amazing.

And Stu will be there.

I know we'll discount the ticket for that.

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Okay, so I was going to talk about Joe Biden and ABC because I think this is really important, but it's Friday.

And so I would much rather screw off just a little bit and tell you the new cancer scare.

Yes, there's a new cancer scare.

This is how bad, this is how bad things are in a country when I'm like, hey, this will be fun.

Let's talk about cancer.

The new cancer scare now comes from this environmental group that says

all the cereal, all the cereal.

We found Roundup in it.

We found Roundup.

Okay, no, not the case.

And we started going over this earlier with Stu.

And I want to take it a step further.

But Stu.

Bring us up to speed on what they're actually saying and how much is required for you to eat and for how long before you'd have

a a minimum chance of getting cancer.

Right, because they they found trace amounts in cereal.

Now, we're going to use the highest levels they found, which is honey nut Cheerios.

The evil bee is spraying Roundup on your on your cereal for whatever reason.

And that's what they want you to believe.

And so the idea here is, of course, to sort of vilify Roundup and say that it's basically everywhere going to cause cancer.

You've seen these big awards that they have passed out to

places all around the country.

And this is what you do.

When you want to vilify some big company and get big awards, you might try going to regulatory, you go to the government, you go to regulatory agencies, you go to scientists and try to get all this stuff proven.

When they don't come up with it, you go to a jury and hope that they just...

feel really bad for the person who's sick.

Correct.

And then you, so they, in California, they actually awarded $2 billion to a guy, a farmer, who they say contracted cancer because of Roundup.

From honey nut Cheerios?

Not from Honey Nut Cheerios, just from Roundup generally.

Because of Roundup.

There are big dollar signs here, right?

And so obviously no one's going to win $2 billion in reality, but there's a lot of money on the line.

I want you to know, when you're talking to Stu about Roundup, this is a guy who's had a glass of Roundup just to show you that it's not bad.

He's had a glass of fracking fluid.

I don't know what's wrong with him, but I'm really only staying in this business just to watch him either explode or turn into a giant lung with cancer.

I'm not sure what's going to happen to him.

I'm trying to pitch a new show where all I do is drink another ridiculous,

you know,

I am all for that.

I'll produce.

I'm executive producer.

I will fund that.

I don't know that I trust you exactly on this one.

But so, yeah, I mean, like, I, first of all, I will say I did drink Roundup and fracking fluid to prove that they were safe.

However, not delicious beverages.

I will tell you that you do not want to drink Roundup.

It's not a game.

And you don't recommend it.

And Stu has done a lot of homework on

what the real minimums are.

Now, explain on what they found in Honey Nut Cheerios and all other cereals,

what they found and how they found it and how they got to the minimum dose that you could have.

Right.

It's important to understand that every single thing that you ingest is toxic at some level.

So there's nothing without risk, including water, right?

So you can have, we've seen this happen how many times, people will have a water drinking contest and they die because there's a toxic level of water your body can't take a certain amount.

That's everything on the planet is like that.

So what is the level here?

That is the, what they try to do is calculate what is the absolute minimum amount you could have that would create any risk of cancer or other harms.

And the way they do this is, of course, not give it, you know, not overload individual people so they develop diseases because that would be completely unethical.

What they do is, of course, go to mice.

Now, mice, of course, are very famous for being much more likely to develop many types of cancer than humans, which is somewhat why they use mice, right?

They want to see if there's any risk they're going to catch it because it's going to happen to mice long before it happens to humans.

So they

would rather err on the side of safety.

But you have to take that into consideration now.

They're erring, they're giving something to an animal that is prone to get cancer.

So they err on the side of safety.

Yes.

Okay.

So

there's your first changing the dose,

you know, because the dose is going to be a lot lower in a mouse than a human, but let's err on the safety side.

Right.

Got it.

So, they start off with what is the absolute minimum dose that they can find harm.

And this product's been around for a very long time.

They've tested it many, many times.

And the dosage is somewhere in the area of about 140,000 milligrams per day.

Okay.

That is the

6,000 milligrams per day of glyphosate.

Okay, so and that is for what the mice could have or what we could have?

Right, this is the this is how this is this is the minimum amount that could show the damage in the mice.

Okay, now that isn't theoretically an adult mouse, right?

So they they reduce that by about 80% for safe levels for children.

So the lowest, so the lowest level for

they say safe for children is about 30,000 milligrams per day.

Now,

what they do there, they don't say, okay, that's it.

We can give them 30,000 milligrams a day.

What they say is, okay, first of all, let's just divide that by 10 for safety, which they do and get it down to about 3,000 milligrams per day.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait.

Just for safety.

Divide by 10.

Well, you don't want to come close to these lines, right?

Like, there's not, there's not a.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I agree with that.

But we've already, we're already coming down because it's a mouse that has, is more susceptible to cancer.

Then we found out what gives it cancer, come down from that to 140,000 milligrams.

Then for children, we take 80% of that.

Now you're saying just an overall, no other reason but for safety, reduce that by 10%.

Divide it by 10.

So yeah.

Divide it by 10.

Taking essentially 90% off of that number.

And then they do this.

I mean, look, these are serious things.

Then they divide legitimately by 100.

So they divide it again.

So now you're down to 30 milligrams a day.

Now remember, the place where they saw the potential for increased harm was 30,000 milligrams.

And now they're saying 30 milligrams a day is what you can have safely of glyphosate.

Now, this is the EPA estimate, the EPA standard for the United States.

It's different all over the world, but the EPA is, you know, the one that nationwide is kind of the guideline.

Now, if you kind of think of like California, right, Glenn, in general,

when they have an EPA standard, what does California do, right?

If there's a pollution standard, California is much more strict, right?

Like, they're going to be on the environmentalist side of every one of these arguments.

So when the EPA says 30 milligrams a day is safe, California says 1.1 milligrams is safe.

So they've lowered it by 94%

from what the EPA says.

So the actual safe is about,

you know,

right at the point to where you have any more and you're going to get cancer.

140,000 milligrams a day.

Then for children, they reduce that to 80 milligrams.

Now, so

they say

80%.

So they have 30,000 milligrams a day, but that's for the adults as well.

So the adults are being held to that same standard, correct?

I mean, they use

the 30,000.

Yes.

Okay.

So we're not even talking about adult.

We're talking about a child dosage.

Then, just for safety, again, we reduce it 10%.

Then for safety again, we reduce it,

we divide it by 10, right, or 100.

And then California, with no facts or figures, just, I don't know, what do you really feel comfortable with, takes it from 30 milligrams to 1.1 milligrams.

And again, remember, that's for children.

So the adults are held to the same standard, but that's 80%

first off reduced because

we're gearing it for a child.

Yeah, I think that you, that's 100% right.

With the one exception of

if you have 140,000 milligrams a day, that does not mean you're going to get cancer.

That is the very beginning of any sign that it shows up in anyone.

So, like, it's not like you automatically get it above those levels.

This is, there's the first sign of anything happening to any of these mice at those levels.

Okay.

And which is a mouse which has a greater chance of getting cancer.

Okay, wait, wait, wait.

So that's the insanity.

That's the setup.

We're going to take a quick break.

We're going to come back.

Now we're going to show you how much cereal does it take

to

actually

now be claimed will give you cancer.

How much cereal do you need to eat, honey nut Cheerios, for this to be any kind of danger for you at all?

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Okay,

so we're down to the California standard.

California is telling us all what we can eat and cannot eat.

We're down to the California standard of you can have 1.1 milligrams of Roundup,

what, every day?

Yeah, the ingredients.

The

ingredients per day.

So 1.1 milligrams per day is of glyphosate is what California says is safe.

And it's the most stringent standard you're going to find.

Okay.

So

how many milligrams are in a bowl of cereal?

Well, it's difficult to kind of break that down because it's actually going to be calculated in the parts per billion.

So like, you know, it's a few hundred.

So

there's not even a 0.1 milligram.

Right.

It's much, it's much, much smaller than that.

So let me give you this breakdown of how you can understand.

So this is so insane.

So first of all, again, we're just taking this environmentalist, anti, you know, Roundup organization at their word that they found these things.

It's not a peer-reviewed study.

They didn't release the full methods.

They didn't release their full data.

So you're going to this level of just trusting this organization.

And the main problem with this is whether you care about cereal, whether you could be the most anti-Roundup person in the world and don't necessarily want to have a glass of it with breakfast like I do.

But the problem is every media organization reported this as if it was fact.

Study finds

cereal gives you cancer risk.

So like, I mean, it's not a peer-reviewed stories.

No, not a peer-reviewed stories.

It's not peer-reviewed.

They didn't release any of the data.

No.

So here is

how this works.

So if you take the highest cereal that they found, which was honey nut Cheerios, what would you have to do to get to the California level of safety?

How much cereal would you actually need to eat?

You would need to eat, approximately, 80 bowls of cereal.

Per day.

Well,

per day.

Now, 80 bowls of cereal per day is is a significantly high amount of honeymoon Cheerios.

Now, I can eat.

I can eat.

And I like cereal.

But I don't think I could eat 80 bowls a day.

Now, Jeffy,

maybe.

Maybe he could do that.

Maybe.

For a day.

Maybe he could do that.

I will say, though, he has to be a little more aggressive than that.

And this is going to be a little bit of carb loading for most people, but you are going to have to eat 80 bowls of cereal a day.

Hold on.

Hang on just a sec.

My wife is in the kitchen.

Can you run to the pantry, grab a deal?

How many bowls of cereal are in a box?

Oh, that's a good question.

How many servings are you?

How many boxes of cereal

is eat?

I have honey nut Cheerios.

Come here.

I need cancer.

Come here.

Oh, right here.

Okay, so here's a good-sized family box of Cheerios.

Amount per serving, serving size is only three quarters a cup.

So

that really kind of reduces.

Servings per container, 22.

22.

So you'd need to eat four boxes, basically, of family-sized honey boxes.

Every day.

Every day for 80 years.

Now, if you were to.

Only for 80 years.

For only 80 years.

So if you live to 90, there's five years on each side.

You don't have to eat the honey nut Cheerios.

But that gets you to the California standard.

Right.

And what that California standard means, again, if you were to do that, 80 bowls of honey nut Cheerios every day for 80 years, it would give you a one in 10,000 chance of harm.

So of every 10,000 people who ate all of that cereal, one of them may have ill effects other than the fact that you'll be really fat and the other problems.

So if I had, no, it's good cholesterol.

If I had, if I had honey nut Cheerios, me and a thousand people, and we had 80 bowls a day our whole life,

or at least for 80 years,

okay, for 80 years, 80 bowls of cereal.

That's just,

you know, just a few boxes every day.

One of us may have a chance of developing cancer.

Yeah, and it's, I will say.

But that's according to California.

Right.

That's not even, that's way disconnected from the mice.

Right.

And so it's, and that's, again, it's one in 10,000, not one in 1,000.

And the other thing I will say is one trick here that gets really difficult is to eat 80 bowls of cereal for 80 years, but also remain a child.

Because you have to stay a kid to get to those levels.

Okay, so wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

So how many, so

you're not reducing it by 80%.

How many bowls of cereal do you have to have as an adult?

Right.

I mean, so I think looking at this, and you're back, this is not in the study, I will say.

I'm just backing into these numbers at this point.

But if you were to eat, let's say, 2.4 million bowls a day, I think you'd have a legitimate chance.

So that's bringing us to the rat.

That's bringing us to the rat, which is more susceptible to cancer than humans.

That is the safe level that the rats could have and not develop cancer.

Right?

Yes.

And so you would have to eat how many?

2.4 billion?

2.4 billion bowls a day, I think.

6 million.

No, you mean million.

Yes, sorry.

I don't want to be ridiculous here.

It's 2.4 million.

You don't want to be ridiculous.

Nobody could eat 2.4 billion bowls, but 2.4 million bowls of cereal every day for 80 years.

I don't even

point out to you that that's a hell of a lot of fiber, man.

There's going to be a lot of issues going on separate from the cancer at this point.

But it's just

say

you can have porcelain chairs.

You know what I'm saying?

All around your breakfast table, just a porcelain chair.

And here's the thing, I think that's the biggest issue here.

And we talk about political reporting all the time.

The reporting on food and health in this country is way worse than the

political reporting.

Because this is like, I mean, you think the reporting on Donald Trump is bad.

There is no way that a news organization should have picked up this study.

There should not have been one article written about it.

It's so nonsensical and ridiculous.

The science is completely on the other side.

They always talk about scientific consensus.

It's totally on the other side of this issue.

And yet with this,

even the organizations, these advocacy organizations that come up with these scare studies to get people to click on them, These organizations sit back and report it as if it's fact with no context whatsoever to line their pockets and then expect us to believe them on global warming consensus.

Expect us to believe them on their political reporting, on the reporting on what happened with you know behind the scenes of what Donald Trump is doing with Iran.

We're supposed to just trust them on all of this other stuff when they churn this crap out daily.

Daily.

It's this bad all the time when it comes to reporting on food and health.

Let me tell you this.

Let me tell you this, okay, hate monger.

I'm glad we have this report because

I was singing about eating 2.4 million bowls of cereal a day.

And can you imagine the carbon footprint to make all of that?

Oh, just the honey.

We'd kill all of the bees.

We'd kill all of the bees.

We would, the tractors that would be needed just for my bowls of cereal, it would destroy the earth.

And

I might, if I was a mouse, get cancer.

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It's not hyperbole to say that Joe Biden was the most corrupt, or at least in the top...

three most corrupt politicians we've ever had as vice president or president.

And we've had some pretty corrupt people.

I mean, you look back at the

you look back at some of the administrations, even the Grant administration and the Johnson administration, not this Johnson, but the one in the 1800s.

Wildly, wildly corrupt.

Jackson was taking land from the Indians and then telling his friends, hey, take some money and take some of my money and be at the land office at 9 o'clock.

There might be something going on.

He went from one of the poorest presidents to the rich one of the richest people in the nation in his in his term so we've had really corrupt people joe biden and his family are

literally the top two or three most corrupt we've ever had and when this is exposed if it's ever exposed it will bring him down Well, it's interesting to me, nobody has done this.

We did a two-hour special on this, and you you can see the first hour on YouTube.

It's Joe Biden.

What do you search for?

Just Joe Biden in Ukraine?

Glenn Beck, Joe Biden, Ukraine?

Yeah, you can find it that way on YouTube.

Yep.

And please subscribe to my YouTube channel while you're there.

But

when you watch this, the Ukraine is nothing compared to what happened to China.

And that's the second hour of that broadcast.

Well, we thought nobody else would do it.

Well, somebody has, and it's ABC television.

ABC News has just done

a report on China and Ukraine with Joe Biden and his son.

And it's pretty damaging.

I mean, it shows, huh, I guess we're not the only ones that can find this truth about Joe Biden.

Now, the question is, why are they doing this?

Are they actually finding journalistic integrity or are they just trying to make sure Joe Biden is not the candidate?

Yeah, I think that's a really interesting question.

I mean, you know, look,

I appreciate that they've done this, and we should listen to some of this report.

It's good that they're following up on this.

It's just, you get a real sense from the media right now that they are going to do everything they can to make sure Joe Biden is not the nominee.

They're Hillary Clinton

with him right now.

It's interesting because, I mean, we think of Clinton getting good media coverage because we're comparing it to the media coverage that Trump gets.

But, I mean, Hillary Clinton got terrible media coverage if you compare it to the coverage that Obama received, or really any nominee that I I can remember in my lifetime on the Democratic side.

They did not like her.

I agree.

Biden here, now, you know, the thing, the problem with the Hillary stuff, though, is there was no one to knock her off for, right?

Like, you're going to get Bernie Sanders, who probably wasn't going to win anyway.

Here, they believe they can get someone.

They can get someone who's much more like an Elizabeth Warren or a Kamala Harris or a Pete Buttigieg or whoever else.

They think there's another path here to another candidate.

And so the question is: you know, they, because they are hitting him hard, not only with this report that we'll play for you here in a second, but also just the way

they're covering his controversies.

I mean, at times, you know, CNN's coverage of a Joe Biden offhanded remark sounds like Fox News's coverage of a Joe Biden offhanded remark.

Like, they are being very critical.

They're not letting him down.

They're giving lots of attention to people like Corey Booker who are criticizing him.

It is not normal of the way that the mainstream media acts.

So, here is the report: ABC News.

After we've, you know, kind of dove into this Ukraine stuff,

normally this would be Glenn Beck's conspiracy theory, right?

Like that's the way this always would have been.

Oh, if he becomes the president or the nominee, it will become Glenn Beck's conspiracy theory again.

It will go back to the correct.

You'll never see it covered again.

So let's listen to a little bit of the ABC coverage.

At issue, was Hunter Biden profiting off his dad's work as vice president?

And did Joe Biden allow it?

We're talking about millions of dollars in at least two countries.

In 2014, Ukrainians, sick of corruption, revolted.

Vice President Joe Biden went to Kiev to help the new government.

You have to fight the

cancer of corruption.

But then something strange happened.

Just three weeks later, a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma, accused of corruption, appoints Hunter Biden, seen here in their promotional videos, to their board of directors, paying his firm more than a million dollars a year.

Hunter, a lawyer who had just been discharged from the Navy Reserves for testing positive for cocaine.

Mr.

Hunter Biden.

He had served on other boards, but had no known experience in Ukraine or natural gas.

We went to Kiev and found even among Joe Biden's supporters in Ukraine, Hunter's hiring was troubling.

How do you judge what Hunter Biden was doing?

I think that Hunter Biden did a very bad thing and he was very wrong.

He allowed his name to be abused.

And Ukraine wasn't the only country where Hunter Biden's business and his father's diplomacy as vice president intersected.

It also happened in China.

Now, this is a lot of resource they've put into this.

They've sent the reporter there.

They've got multiple interviews.

They talked about, too, how, you know, you get to the situation where

you're going into a country that you're there to stop the corruption.

And three weeks after you show up, your son gets a multi-million dollar deal in a field that I'm going to do.

I will tell you experience in.

What they just did in about two minutes, we did in 22 minutes.

So this is the Disney-fied version of what that scandal was.

Yeah.

I mean, this is so, this is like scandal really, really, really, really, really light.

This is like, well, we're not really sure.

When you actually produce the documents and you show the timetable and everything else, it's stunning.

Stunning.

Stunning.

Stunning.

Stunning.

And you know, I don't expect ABC News to spend an entire show on it.

And you spent multiple shows on it.

But I mean, the fact that they're covering it it all and showing you

the real truth here.

Again, you're a big company that natural gas.

You're going to put someone on your board, pay him millions of dollars that has no experience, has no experience in your country, and just got discharged from the military because he was doing cocaine.

That you're going to do that.

That makes absolutely no sense.

So then they went on to look at China.

This video shows Chinese diplomats greeting Vice President Biden as he arrived in Beijing in December of 2013.

Right by his side, his son Hunter.

Less than two weeks later, Hunter's firm had new business, creating an investment fund in China involving the government-controlled Bank of China.

With reports, they hope to raise $1.5 billion.

Hunter still plays a role in the fund.

His lawyer says his stake is worth about half a million dollars.

Both Hunter and his lawyers say he never discussed any of his overseas work with his father.

But even a critic of the current president and his children's business dealings says this.

He should have encouraged his son to not take these positions.

Biden's campaign team told us that the vice president acted at all times in a manner consistent with well-established executive branch ethics standards.

One person who did not want to talk about it,

Joe Biden.

Mr.

Vice President, what's your take on that?

Was there a conflict of interest there?

Was there a clear conflict of interest?

Now, in response to our questions, the Biden campaign, for the first time, is announcing if he's elected, he will invoke a new ethics policy on his first day in office that would empower White House lawyers to monitor for any types of conflicts of interest.

Now, Hunter Biden did not want to comment on camera.

He says he was brought into Burisma, that Ukrainian company that was facing the corruption charges, to help with its transparency and corporate responsibility.

It's amazing.

So, this is their national chief national affairs reporter that they sent not only to Ukraine to follow this, but also

all over the United States to get multiple attempts to get comment from Joe Biden.

It wasn't just that one where he's shouting at him.

He's not only shouted at him, he shouted at him in multiple different places.

And it's an amazing thing because even they report, like, this is very standard practice in Ukraine and China, where like you have a big figure and they'll put the son on the board.

But it's the exact type of corruption that Joe Biden supposedly was going over there to fight.

And the fact that he utilized it to enrich his son, allegedly, is pretty damning, I think.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And the exact kind of corruption that everybody hates about capitalism.

I mean, that's

cronyism at all.

I mean, currently.

No, it's not.

No, no, no, but it's crony capitalism.

The reason why capitalism is hated is because people think that is capitalism.

And it's not.

It's crony capitalism.

And it's what our government is doing all over the board with Google and Amazon and and everybody else.

One hand washes the other.

That's what people don't like.

And if Joe Biden is the guy that people say, oh, well, you know what?

He's going to be fair.

This guy is, he will usher in the oligarchs because I think we're almost there now.

We are going to become a really corrupt oligarchy because that's the new way of doing business in Russia and China.

And everybody who's anybody wants that.

We don't want that.

I don't don't want that from Donald Trump.

I don't want that from Ronald Reagan.

I don't want that from Joe Biden.

I don't want any of that.

But that's the way socialism is run.

And especially this new

state capitalism.

That's what this is all about.

This, again, if you just heard this for the first time, this is nothing.

This was like a joke of a report compared to what really happened.

When you see it edited that tightly from ABC, it doesn't seem like a big deal.

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This weekend has Blake Harris on, and he wrote a book that was supposed to be a book about technology.

He's a guy who's a liberal, but he's writing just about technology, interesting stories about technology, and the kind of starting of virtual reality.

And the guy who invented it is a 19-year-old guy in a trailer.

And what started, though, is that sort of story about the foundation of virtual reality turned into a story that had this really amazing thing with Donald Trump and the way technology destroys conservatives who are prominent in the world of Silicon Valley.

Listen.

This is a guy who knows everyone in Silicon Valley, and he said there's only two people I know in Silicon Valley who are publicly Trump supporters or who are willing to say that they're Trump supporters, Palmer Lucky and Peter Thiel.

And that's obviously a problem for a lot of reasons because I think that there's more than two that are just were unwilling to say it.

But it's interesting to me that now here we are in 2019, less than two years after he said that, and both Peter and Palmer are out of Silicon Valley.

And it's not because they don't like the geography there.

It's because there's other stuff going on.

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he posts his support for Donald Trump.

And it's not crazy.

Is it?

When he first comes out and says, I'm for Donald Trump, it's not, he's not like.

Well, it was crazy back in 2011 because who would have said that?

Yeah, yeah, I know.

But I mean, when this story really starts to take, he sold his business to Oculus.

And he's not like...

you know, in the Trump gear and, you know, walking down Facebook

with flags and going, you know,

he's actually,

he is much more like how I remembered politics when I was growing up, where I remembered I once asked

my home economics teacher, which I would suspect is not really a class anymore, even though I thought it was very useful to learn those skills.

And I remember asking her who she voted for in the election.

I guess I was in eighth grade.

It must have been 96.

And she got mad at me, like, that's a very personal thing to ask.

You don't ask people about politics.

And that's sort of Palmer's mentality,

which once he was, you know, it was determined that he was a villain, everyone thought, oh, that's him being sneaky.

He doesn't want to talk about his politics.

No, that's just, he doesn't think that matters.

He was there to do virtual reality stuff and do cool tech stuff.

That was irrelevant.

But yeah, he had no qualms with publicly being a Trump supporter not long after the escalator introduction of Trump.

You know, one of the things I find fascinating that it's not in this edition of the book, but I will put it in a later edition because I'm still getting

more information.

Fortunately, no contradictory information, but I'm still getting other cool details that I want to include.

Is that in April of 2016, Palmer went to a Trump rally in Costa Mesa.

And the reason I know that is not just because he told me, but because there was an NBC video talking about protesters outside of the rally, and Palmer was one of the people interviewed.

I was like, you were at this Trump rally.

What was it like?

Or what was the protesters like?

So he had no problem being

hiding.

Yeah, he wasn't hiding.

Exactly.

He wasn't hiding it.

He knew this was going going to be on the news, potentially millions of people did it, potentially no one, but like he had no problem hiding it.

And then we flash forward to five months later when he makes this $10,000 donation to an organization and he does it anonymously, which people then say he did it because he was sneaky about it or he was trying to cover it up or whatever they say.

And you have to ask yourself, well, then what changed over the five months?

And the answer is Peter Thiel.

The answer is that in, you know, in between that was the Republican National Convention in 2016.

Peter spoke there and came out as a Trump supporter, as a gay man, Trump supporter.

And

people on Facebook want, so many people on Facebook wanted to get him fired from the

board at Facebook for the only reason was just that he was a Trump supporter.

Amazing story: how they target conservatives.

It's happening all over Silicon Valley.

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