Best of the Program | Guests: Steven Crowder & Terrence Williams | 6/6/19

Hey podcasters, today was a great show.

A lot of it had to do with Steven Crowder and freedom of speech.

There's a lot of people, more than Steven Crowder, that were banned yesterday, and

YouTube changed their policy and they say that they are going to go to more authoritative

platforms.

So in other words, platforms like The Blaze or Glenn Beck or Steven Crowder.

No,

we're not going to be pushed at all by by YouTube.

They're going to go to more authoritative, meaning the New York Times, NBC, ABC, CNN.

This is the beginning of the end of freedom of speech.

We talk an awful lot about that.

Stephen Crowder is in rare form.

Also, Terrence Williams is on.

He's a guy who was banned from Facebook

because he posted the threats that he was getting online.

So they were threatening him online

through Facebook and he posted them and Facebook banned him

He's really really funny.

You don't want to to miss it also

my Miley Cyrus moment Yeah, yeah, it's that creepy

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For about 15 years,

I have said a time is going to come.

And

I stood in our newsroom and our social media room yesterday

listening to the conversations and the news as it was coming in about what was happening and

I stood there and I thought

I knew this was coming

but I guess there was a part of me that just

so hoped that I was wrong that I thought it would maybe never come.

But it has.

And

it has everyone on the right who is a voice that you trust deeply, deeply concerned.

In some circles, panicked.

I'm not panicked, but I am deeply concerned.

Here it comes, and I will explain the loss of voices that you trust and reflect your point of view.

This is a critical day in the Republic's history.

We address it in one minute.

This is the Glenbeck program.

It is time to wake up, America.

It is time to wake up.

It was 24 hours ago that I said congratulations to Stephen Crowder because Stephen Crowder had been in

a fight with Carlos Maza.

He goes, his Twitter handle is gay wonk.

And he is a guy who, you know, talks about political things.

And he is, you know, he produces these videos and he's like, hey, I'm the queen of New York and I'm the gay wonk and blah, blah, blah.

And

he says things like this this is this is a quote from his Twitter feed get back to me when you're ready to personally assassinate people I find annoying on Twitter then we'll talk

personally assassinate people on Twitter so what is he saying

we just have to we just have to kill you online.

Now this is part of I just realized another quote I just realized how to learn, how I learned to sub-tweet by watching my mom talk crap about white people right in front of them in Spanish.

He talks about milkshaking people, throwing milkshakes at them, humiliate them at every turn, make them dread public organizing.

He talks about the panic of violent antifaw, shows how media coverage on the right fixates on violence to demonize legitimate protest movements.

This guy is so far off the rails.

Well, Stephen Crowder has been taking him on and winning and winning.

Stephen Crowder is very, very smart.

He is a comedian.

And comedy is the most dangerous thing you can do.

So, 24 hours ago, I told you that he,

Maza had issued a complaint with YouTube, and YouTube,

he got a response right away, and they said, we are going to investigate that Steven Crowder.

And so they decided to investigate him, and they found that he had done absolutely nothing wrong.

He hadn't violated the community guidelines.

Now listen to this.

Even if creators contents doesn't violate our community guidelines, we will take a look at the broader context and impact.

If their behavior is egregious and harms the broader community, we may

take action.

In the case of Crowder's channel, a thorough review over the weekend found that individually the flagged videos did not violate our community guidelines.

Now, I know this to be true because Stephen Crowder goes out and he is meeting with YouTube all the time.

He has 4 million followers and subscribers on YouTube.

4 million.

He goes out all the time to make sure we're going to follow these rules.

Tell me what the rules are.

So they just said we found that individually the flagged videos did not violate our community guidelines.

However...

In the subsequent days, we saw the widespread harm to the YouTube community resulting from the ongoing pattern of egregious behavior.

It forced us to take a deeper look, and we made the decision to suspend monetization.

In order to be considered free in statement, all relevant issues with the channel need to be addressed, including any videos that violate our policies, as well as things like offensive merchandise.

Now, wait a minute, you just said

none of the videos violated community guidelines.

but he has to address any videos that violate policies.

You wait, what?

So

now what they're doing is they said after the first the past few years, we've been in investing in the policies, resources, and products needed to live up to our responsibility and protect the YouTube community from harmful content.

This work is focused on four pillars, removing

volatile content,

raising up authoritative content, reducing the spread of borderline content, and rewarding trusted creators.

Thanks to these investments, videos that violate our policies are removed faster than ever, and users are seeing less borderline content and harmful misinformation.

As we do this, we're partnering closely,

closely with trusted sources.

Okay.

So here's what happened.

Yesterday morning, I told you, congratulations, Steven Crowder.

It was a good day for freedom.

Turns out, yesterday was a very dark day for freedom because YouTube then came out 4 o'clock and demonetized him.

What that means is, hey, please, you could continue to create content for us.

We're just not going to allow you to make any money for that.

Okay, Steven Crowder, he's got enough money.

He's like, he's like me.

I've not made a dime from YouTube.

We've never focused on YouTube because we always thought this was coming.

We recently have started to build a YouTube page, but everything we do is just not monetized.

And quite honestly, Stu, tell me about your YouTube feed that you noticed yesterday, because I'm Glenn Beck, and you would think Glenn Beck might show up in an algorithm.

I watch a video of mine, and it never comes up as

a suggested next video.

You don't do well in the algorithm.

Right.

I mean, considering the amount of,

we all know that Google is monitoring your emails and everything else.

And this is what, you know, in the best sense, right?

Like, they are seeing the things you're interested in and then are, or the things you search for, and then are able to make recommendations on the best videos that would interest you.

Correct.

Well, I do a lot of email and searching, unfortunately, for Glenn Beck and the Blaze.

And that's my job.

And the Blaze.

And the Blaze.

And they, man, they just never can find a way to recommend me a video.

I can find videos of Andrew Heaton doing things for a reason, but they never recommend anything that he's done for the Blaze.

They never do anything anybody on the Blaze.

Nope.

Really, I never see any of them pop up.

So yesterday, they demonetized.

We're using YouTube as a funnel, a way to get people who, you know, the world is on YouTube.

Okay, so we better be on YouTube.

And I don't care if they pay me, but I use it as an advertising place to where they can see a bit of it and go, oh, wow, I like that.

Maybe I should subscribe to the Blaze.

Well, that's the way

Steven Crowder uses it.

He goes where the crowd is.

He should.

So they demonetized him.

But then what happened?

Within 10 minutes of him being demonetized, the Shopify, which is the group that sells all of his merchandise,

decides they're not going to be involved with a hate monger at all.

And so they're not selling any of his product.

That's incredible.

So yesterday, a guy who they said did not violate any of the guidelines was demonetized and

they stopped selling all of his merchandise, another separate company.

Then

yesterday,

lots of things happened yesterday.

Some of them I can't talk about yet.

Then yesterday evening, the Blaze tried to post something about Stephen Crowder, and we were blocked by Facebook.

It says you're temporarily restricted from resharing posts until Saturday at 7.15 p.m.

If you think this doesn't go against our community standards, let us know.

Here's what we posted.

They can never take away Mug Club.

YouTube can demonetize us.

Vox can try to deplatform us, but they can never, ever take away Mug Club from us.

This is the show you built.

That was from Steven Crowder, and we wanted to retweet it on Facebook, not YouTube.

And now the Blaze has been

blocked from passing anything on about Steven Crowder.

Oh, and one last thing.

Somebody else was blocked yesterday.

Lila Rose.

Now Lila Rose runs live action.

Lila Rose,

Twitter banned live action and her account from all ads demonetize.

When we asked Twitter why they said we could resume ads only if we deleted the following content from their Twitter

and website.

So their Twitter feed and their website.

all they would have to do

is just remove anything about abortion procedures from their website.

This is an anti-abortion website.

It's going to be tough.

Anything about abortion procedures, anything about investigations of planned parenthood, and all ultrasound images.

I mean, like 75% of social networks are people sharing their

ultrasound pictures, and now they have to do it because they want to keep the babies in in the ultrasounds alive.

I'm going to share with you what all of this means.

And I'm going to go to

Leon Wolf, who is our executive editor now of theblaze.com.

He was on the phone with Facebook yesterday arguing with them.

And I'm going to explain what all of this means coming up, but I'm going to give you the action right now.

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Leon Wolf from the Blaze.

Leon,

I actually am

nervous today.

Am I right to feel this way?

Yeah,

nervous.

I'm more, I guess, on the angry side than the nervous side, but, you know,

both would be appropriate emotions to have at this point, I think.

So tell me what happened yesterday with Facebook.

Okay, so I want to be clear here because this is literally unfolding as we speak.

And I don't, I'm not 100% sure what the effect of it is going to be.

We got a notification last night that we would not be allowed to post or share items on our own Facebook page until Saturday at 7.15 p.m.

because we are being timed out by Facebook.

I just

found out we just attempted to put an article on the Facebook page and it worked.

So maybe they have considered that they were in error and undone it.

I really don't know.

But we've got this notification that says you guys can't use your Facebook page anymore until Saturday.

And the basis for that was, they says, we feel that you have shared clickbait on your page.

And Glenn, I have put, it's up on the blaze right now.

It's the top article when you click on the page.

It's the one about the special needs, mother of a special needs kid.

Mother of special needs girl sends her kid to school with a recorder that is the post they flagged that they said was allegedly clickbait i want your listeners to go look click on the story and you tell me if that's clickbait or not i thought it was steven crowder that we shared something from steven crowder's story this was a separate no this is a completely different thing this story is a completely legitimate story this woman sent her special needs daughter to school with a tape recorder because her daughter was saying i heard it being mean to me right and caught them on tape saying all sorts of insane stuff like I'm gonna punch you in the face like it's a horrifying story it's a legitimately horrifying story so that's clickbait the other thing they flagged was a video we shared from Will Witt which look I don't care what you think about Will Witt but his videos are not clickbait.

I mean, he goes and he talks to people.

I don't even understand how it possibly could be.

Right.

And what was the topic?

What was the topic of that?

I'm not entirely sure.

All I saw

was a screenshot of it.

So I don't have that in front of me right now.

It's probably something along the lines of socialism or something like that.

He usually goes to campuses and talks to people

and exposes them for being ridiculously.

But

this is the second time in the last month that

we've had to fight Facebook over something ridiculous.

Our page got deranked,

I guess, about five or six weeks ago because,

you know, Facebook,

no, it wasn't pointer.

It was Facebook has hired these third-party people to do this alleged fact-checking that they're supposed to do.

And some of them are politi fact and so on, you know, kind of well-known fact-checkers.

They lean left, but at least they're well-known.

We got fact-checked by some guy I literally never heard of.

He worked for CNN for 26 years for Nancy Grace, of all people.

So I guess he's going to fact-check us.

He took issue with a story we did about textbooks in Texas that had some stuff on there that really looked like it was anti-Trump.

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Yesterday was a very important day for freedom of speech, and our country seems split, and a lot of America is dead asleep.

Stephen Crowder has been a guy who works really, really hard to A, present intelligent information.

He is a comedian, so it is funny, and he is really, really funny.

That's why he connects with so many people.

He has an audience of 4 million on YouTube alone.

And he has spent a lot of time, he and his attorneys, with YouTube in their offices, asking them exactly what are your guidelines?

I don't want to violate your guidelines.

He's a guy who pushes the envelope, but he also is smart enough to know what the rules are and play by the rules.

Welcome to the program, Stephen Crowder.

Thank you for having me.

I really want to get one of those X chairs because, as you can see, I just got back from the gym.

I'm a little bit busy today, and this chair sucks.

It's terrible.

I don't know if you know this.

This is like a legendary design chair.

People you see it in all these films.

I had one a long time ago, awful.

Those are terrible.

Great.

Well, at least we don't need them as a sponsor.

You guys have X-chair, but send us a couple.

I'll take one.

I'll use it.

All right.

So, Stephen, tell me what yesterday was like because yesterday morning I congratulated you on being cleared of an investigation on

YouTube.

and by yesterday afternoon, everything was different.

Well, I wouldn't say everything was different, but yes, it is very confusing.

And by the way, that's by design.

My attorney can't get the rules straight.

The only information that we've been given from YouTube is verifiably false in the past.

So that's all we know.

The info that they've given us is not correct.

And now they're releasing info on Twitter to the people who've been screaming the loudest.

For people who don't understand the full context, we've been doing rebuttals for a long time.

We have over a thousand videos, and I think 10 of them were rebuttals to Vox.

You know, Vox Vox has had videos where they've outright pushed for an Australian gun ban, right?

Where they've pushed for

actual socialism, where they've pushed for universal income.

So we've rebutted them many times.

And there happens to be a host who is a gay gentleman of Latino origin.

And these are considered epithets, by the way, terms like gay, queer.

And by the way, hear this, Mexican.

So they got really upset.

You can't say Mexican now.

This was listed in a Vox article.

Glenn, Mexican.

What are the rules?

I don't understand it.

I have to tell you, Stephen, I can't take your hate speech anymore.

I mean, this is getting a little out of hand.

I apologize to those in the Latinx community, which I don't even know what that means.

So, this guy screams and screams that he wants us banned from the platform.

And YouTube finally, they conducted an investigation and they said, well, okay, he's not in violation of guidelines.

Great.

This guy screamed and moaned even more.

By the way, a billion-dollar company, Vox.

Articles from New York Times, Washington Post, Vice.

And this is what's so funny.

You know about this with the media.

The Washington Post wrote an article up where they had been talking with this guy back and forth for a very long time and YouTube directly from what you read in the article.

They sent me an email at night that went through my merchandise website.

There's a contact page on the website, by the way, and they said, by the way, you have like an hour to respond.

We reached out to Steven, who was not available for comment.

Oh, no, I was eating a hot pocket, dummy.

Like, I had one hour to myself.

So, anyway, this is what happens.

And then YouTube says this is not a violation of guidelines.

That's very clear, but his speech speech is offensive enough to be egregious that we have just booted him and completely demonetized all of his videos.

Meaning my whole channel,

not a single video can be monetized.

And that's, of course, why Mug Club is so important.

You know, in partnership with the Blaze, people can join up right now at lotofclower.com slash Mug Club.

There's a, I think at the Blaze too, the...

promo code is free speech.

They get $30 off for this right now.

Thank God, Vox has actually sold more memberships that they should be employee of the month now that I think about it.

We actually probably will put that into the commercial.

Employee of the month.

the Latinx gentleman of Vox.

Look, he's bullying me.

So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I want to read the exact thing that YouTube put out because

it's crazier than your explanation, which is pretty crazy.

Even if a creator's content does not violate our community guidelines, we will take a look at the broader context and impact.

And if their behavior is egregious and harms the broader community, we may take action.

In the case of Crowder's channel, a thorough review over the weekend found that individually, the flagged videos did not violate our community guidelines.

However, in the subsequent days, i.e.

the mob rose up, we saw the widespread harm to the YouTube community resulting from the ongoing pattern of egregious behavior.

Wait, what egregious behavior?

None of that behavior violated your community guidelines.

At first, I thought they had the ghost of James Cagney write up, and it talked about hurting the broad community, which I thought was distasteful.

But then they said, yeah, they said, you know, the impact.

Hold on a second.

They demonetized me literally reading from pillar to post the Green New Deal.

No commentary.

They demonetize videos that change my mind where we go on campus and have students simply discuss issues.

I have almost nothing to do with it.

This is the issue here, too.

They've said now

with a subsequent investigation, we've noticed these egregious offenses of guidelines.

So, this is something I want everyone to understand.

If they think this is just about me, it's not, and we'll be okay because of because of the blaze and because of mug clubs.

So, we appreciate the support.

But for people out there who think that they won't come for you, let me explain this.

Guidelines, egregious violations.

Okay, upon a subsequent investigation.

They said days, it took days.

Now, Google, YouTube is the biggest media company in the world.

Google, Facebook, and then way down the list, Twitter, right?

So, wouldn't you think that if Google, YouTube, the alphabet is the name of the parent company, ran an investigation for days and we asked, hey, can you tell us what the violations were?

Wouldn't you expect them to be able to provide something?

Yes.

Okay.

Surprise, they did, but two out of the thousands of videos, two.

Do you know what they were?

One was called, it was an episode that we in installment called the Trans Troop Ban.

We had a transgender on the show.

on that show, a conservative transgender.

The show was about being open to hearing opinions from the transgender community because not all of them are people like Vox trying to get different opinions banned.

You can be transgender and happen to want lower taxes.

Dad, wait a minute.

You're saying to me people are all individuals.

Shut up with your hate, Stephen Crowder.

Well, in this case, they could be two individuals.

I'm not entirely sure on the two-spirited community anymore.

Again, the rule book just keeps changing.

And then the other one was an interview with a woman who was a victim of sexual assault who talked about Islamic rape, rape grooming gangs in the UK.

Just like, you know, people have talked about this going on for a long time.

It was an interview.

These weren't even offensive videos.

So out of the over a thousand videos, after days of investigating, they gave my official legal counsel, my half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richmond, two examples.

By the way, it doesn't even say where in the episode something was offensive.

And we've said this is, of course, incredibly ineffective.

This is not a complete list.

It's far from comprehensive.

We need to know what's going on.

Well, they haven't answered.

But you've already run the investigation, YouTube.

Are you inept or or are you just being dishonest?

The fact is, it's going to be harder and harder for them to find anything.

They're trying to scrape for something, and honestly, I thought it would be easier.

I mean, half the time when people say, Uh, did you and they present me with a quote?

I go, Oh, that reads rough, but sounds like me.

Like, I don't run from it.

It's exactly what I used to say all the time.

Yeah, it sounds like me, probably.

Yeah, I don't remember it.

I create so much content.

I mean, we've said millions of words, millions of words, and a lot, and most of it, if not all of it, is unscripted, unplanned.

Yeah.

Probably said something stupid from time to time.

Yeah.

The issue is no one knows the rules.

No one knows the guidelines.

And what they're doing is capitulating to people.

They scream the loudest.

They're saying that it doesn't matter what the guidelines even are.

They've now formalized, yeah, we're just whatever we feel.

Whatever we feel.

Well, here's also the problem, too.

I think conservatives make the wrong argument when they just say censorship.

This is corporate censorship.

This is bullying and corporate intimidation.

Because, listen, you have a billion dollars Vox, or you have like young Turks, 20 million from what was it, Al Jazeera, Qatar.

We're funded by porcelain campfire mugs for crying out loud.

So, when you compare it, it really is favoring the big sort of media conglomerates.

That's what we're dealing with.

And something else here that I think is at play that people need to understand is YouTube built their entire platform off the backs of original content creators.

So, when we started on YouTube, my brother actually was one of the first original partners in 2006.

There was a lot of competition, Glenn.

There was a, I think, live leak.

There were a bunch of other websites.

Now, what did YouTube do?

This was before they were purchased from Google.

They said, you know what?

We know that you have many other options.

Thank you for flying Qantas.

They said, we know that you have other options when it comes to uploading your video content.

We've never created original content.

This is entirely user-based.

So here's what we'll do.

If you promise us that you'll upload your content to YouTube, we're going to share the revenue with you.

And what did that do?

That eliminated all competition because YouTube was the only place that would do a revenue split.

Great, free market.

Then when they grow big enough and NBC Universal or Disney comes in and wants to take advantage of this platform, they pull the rug out from under the people who have built the platform.

Come to us, we'll pay you.

That's how they beat the competition.

Then they say, all right, we're no longer going to pay you and we're going to ban you.

You courted our business.

You told us this is where you wanted us.

And now you're giving us the boot without giving us any rules, without giving us any clear guidelines.

It's dishonest business practices.

That's what's going on here.

You know, it's the same way, though.

I mean, Facebook is a company that has never received more free advertising.

I don't think I know of another company that has received as much free advertising.

And when Facebook first started, the deal was, and they would ask us, they courted us, they would fly into our offices and say, hey, here's how you do it.

Here's how we can help you.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Let's build a community.

Help us build this community.

It's a direct relationship with you and your listeners and your viewers.

It was fantastic.

That's great.

Now, I can't even get to the millions of people who went and said, I want Glenn Beck's opinion.

I want his posts.

I can't do it.

I can't get to them.

They're banning me from them.

I know they're banning you from your fans.

These aren't people who are protesting.

I want to know what he's saying.

No, we can't allow that to happen.

Why is that, Zuckerberg?

Must drink water.

The guy is just so,

I'm not convinced that he wasn't sent back from Skynet.

Here's the

same thing with YouTube.

By the way, let me be really clear about this.

I would take complete, well, I can't say I would take, we've already been completely demonetized.

Let's be honest, I've lost my cards there, but I would be glad in taking complete total demonetization if it just meant that we still got to reach the viewers that have subscribed to the channel.

Number one conservative YouTube channel of all time, highest interaction rates of any news channel out there.

So that's really the hill that I'm willing to die on.

It It doesn't seem like right now they sent us an email saying none of that has changed.

We haven't been classified as borderline content.

Oh, you will.

So we'll wait and see.

Well, you know, you never know.

They've kind of backed themselves into a corner, and I don't think they anticipated the backlash.

This is true.

I think.

I tell you, Stephen, we're the blaze is borderline content.

Glenn Beck, borderline content.

I mean,

it is just a matter of time.

You are the lightning rod right now.

And they will, I mean, when people were coming after Alex Jones and I stood for him, I think you stood for him too, didn't you?

Yeah, I agree with him on almost nothing, but I had him on my show and talked about him.

Exactly right.

I don't like the guy.

I don't agree with him, but I stood up for him.

And people who didn't like, well, he's Alex Jones.

He's crazy.

Okay, wait until they come for somebody you like.

Well, they just have.

They just have.

And it is growing exponentially, and they are getting bolder and bolder.

Well, here's the problem, too, though.

I think they really backed themselves into a corner because with this purge, keep in mind, too, when they released, now we have new policies for white supremacists, and Vox considers Tucker Carlson a white supremacist.

They consider Nigel Farage a white supremacist.

So they said, you know, we've purged thousands of videos.

Keep in mind that at least a thousand of those videos.

Are this guy's.

So when you read about the thousands of videos purged under white supremacist label and there's no delineation, I'm one of those notorious pro-Israel white supremacists with a with a biracial producer.

That's

me.

I meet with the Klan on Sundays.

It really is remarkable.

But now the thing is,

they've now started completely booting history channels that simply cover historical events.

They've started booting news channels, many of which are left that simply cover right issues.

And a lot of these people are now pushing back.

This is the first time I will say this, Clenn.

The VOD, VOD, the Vox ad Pocalypse was trending all night last night.

And the backlash from not conservatives, but from the entire entertainment and YouTube creator community, this is the first time this has happened where they've banded together was so much worse than an angry

gentleman and scholar of Latino origin who happens to be attracted to the same sex with his brave and beautiful it box.

The backlash was so much worse from every I don't want you to get put on borderline here.

I'm looking forward to it.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Oh, I appreciate it.

It's so much worse than they anticipated just coming from Media Matters that I think now they're going to have to readjust or they know that they are going to hemorrhage, hemorrhage users.

And for people out there, you need to understand this.

YouTube, their currency is their user.

Their currency is their viewer, okay?

And their currency is only as valuable as the trust that the viewer has in the platform.

And right now, that trust is degrading very quickly.

And I don't think they anticipated it.

Let me one more point here.

This is just hysterical to me.

Quickly.

The Vox guy said, YouTube was supposed to be a queer space.

What?

2%.

He used the word queer, by the way, not me.

It's hate speech if I say it, but he used the words queer space.

That's 2% of population earth.

50% of population earth is conservative.

And if you look at people who don't believe that conservatives should be milkshaked or banned, you're probably looking at 7.5% at least.

YouTube's supposed to be a space for everyone.

So if YouTube capitulates here, it's not about YouTube siding with the left.

It's about them siding with the 2% versus the 98%.

We need to keep that in perspective.

So, Stephen, somebody else had some problems yesterday.

Lila Rose from Live Action.

She had a problem yesterday with Twitter.

Twitter banned Live Action action and her account from all ads.

When asked why, Twitter said she could resume ads, but only if they would comply and she would delete the following content from her Twitter feed and the live action website.

So all that Lila Rose and Live Action, this pro-life website, has to do is remove anything from Twitter or their website about abortion procedures, quote anything about abortion procedures, anything about investigations of Planned Parenthood, and all ultrasound images.

But that's all she has to do.

Right.

I wonder if that same

rule applies to Planned Parenthood.

You know, they banned me from ads on Twitter a long time ago, which is funny because they actually, again, courted me and told me to advertise on Twitter.

So

that's some money I'll never get back.

But I would be concerned if I hadn't already been banned from ads, if only because this wouldn't bode well for me, since I went in as a transgender woman at Planned Parenthood and tested positive on a pregnancy test.

And by the way, I saw an episode.

Brilliant.

Yes, apologies to the woman on Craig's list whose pregnant urine we

don't think illegally, but certainly surreptitiously obtained.

Should have been more forthright about the purposes for it for the video.

It was crazy.

You stood there with a doctor, clearly a guy,

saying you're pregnant, and

the doctor is the doctor just will not address the fact that you can't be pregnant.

Yeah, by the way, if you test positive

as a man on a pregnancy test, it's indicative of testicular cancer.

People need to know that, right?

So, it's

again, we've reached the age where truth does not matter.

Mr.

Steven Crowder is with us now.

Steven, if you hadn't started your mug club and had the subscribers, you would have probably been firing people today, don't you think?

Would you?

If you were an average person that was just creating content on YouTube, you'd be freaked out of your mind.

Yeah, or I'd probably just be doing a lot of meth.

So, you know, I just, because I don't necessarily know that I would be responsible in the pressure cooker.

No, yeah, that's absolutely correct.

And that's what my concern is, is the smaller guy after us.

You know, we're really fortunate that we've built a big following and fortunate, but yeah, we've worked really hard to to do it.

But this was kind of, you know, it was seen as the wild west of the internet.

People use that term a lot.

The wild west, the internet, or the bathroom wall of society.

It's kind of kind of both.

The thing is, the value there was that the gatekeepers didn't really have the same kind of sway.

Anyone could start a podcast.

Anyone could start a show.

You had kids who were creating YouTube channels and were just dominating some of the biggest networks, right?

Well, now the big networks have said, hold on a second, we want access to those eyeballs.

And so not only do they spend more money, but they exert pressure, political pressure, social pressure on these companies to try and give them a leg up.

That's what we're seeing with NBC Vox.

That's what you see with companies like Disney and Vice.

So what worries me is that there might not be the ability for someone else like me to come up in the next few years.

That's what's so concerning.

So we are going to be fine.

And if people want to support, they can join up at a lot of creditor.com slash mug club.

And of course, we're with the Blaze.

You get access to all the content there.

There's a $30 off special right now if you use the promo code free speech.

But yeah, if we didn't have it, I mean, let's talk about bullying for a second.

They say that I'm bullying, even though I went after after Vox when I had a tenth of the subscribers, just because he happens to be a quote-unquote queer producer, his words, not mine, please don't remove me for hate speech.

So that's considered bullying, but trying to remove the ability of one and his 15 employees to make a living is not.

And what about advocating battery and assault against conservatives?

How is that not bullying?

We have to look at actions of people and not just whether they're a part of the marginalized group of the day.

And in this case, this is a serious case of bullying, which really would have had ultimately much more severe ramifications.

And this is something else.

When we talk about bullying, you know why bullying is so bad in high school or in the workplace?

It's because it's chronic.

It's because it's systemic, right?

You still have to go to that school the next day and the bully's there.

You still have to go into work the next day.

And if your supervisor is a bully, he's still there.

The difference is when we have videos that we do rebuttals, it's entirely voluntary to watch it.

Making sure that none of our staff has the ability to make a living, that is far more in line with the idea of systemic chronic bullying that you would see in high school.

Here's one of the tweets that he has tweeted out, and I just

this is beyond bullying.

Listen to this.

Get back to me when you're ready to personally assassinate people I find annoying on Twitter.

Then we'll talk.

Now, I could take this to the extreme and say, he's calling for the assassination of Steven Crowder.

No, I think he means personally assassinate people on Twitter, personally assassinate people because he is a very, very big guy on humiliate people,

make a statement, make people dread being in public

and having another opinion.

How is this not bullying?

Yeah, I'm not familiar with that tweet, but I certainly am familiar with the tweets where he talked about milkshaking people.

You're like, oh, it's just a milkshake.

Well, there could be acid in that milkshake.

I'm certainly familiar with, you know, his, his tweets implying that I'm a homosexual who's lying to my wife, which, by the way, I don't really care.

To me, if you say, oh, Stephen's secretly gay, I guess it means that I've done enough push-ups recently.

It doesn't bother me.

It's not that big of a deal.

But doesn't that, what do we do now, YouTube?

If sexual orientation is a violation of,

not a violation of guidelines, but if it's sort of egregious and it's not really acceptable, well, what about when you combine it with libel or slander saying that I'm secretly gay?

He's weaponized sexuality against me.

Is it just because I happen to be straight?

That's not what he claims.

This person and Vox as a whole, they've made it very clear.

They've said this is not about Steven Crowder.

This is about making it a safe space, a queer space, is what he talked about, actually, this one person.

But Vox said, until these people are completely removed from these social media platforms.

They've also, this all the way, by the way, this all stems from a very recent video that we rebutted from Vox where they talked about how the important role of journalism, the most important role of journalists, is to determine what information the public gets, is to be the gatekeeper.

That was what we rebutted.

They literally said the primary role of journalism is to decide what information the public gets to know and what they don't.

And we said, that's actually not the role of journalism.

And that's what set this guy off.

That is one of the things, you know, I've told this story before.

Before 2008,

I talked to a very big financial journalist,

and

very big.

And I was on this individual show, and

we were talking about the economy.

And I said, Look, this thing is,

there's a meltdown coming.

These home loans and everything else have been out of control for too long, and there's a giant meltdown coming.

We got off the air, and he said, He looked at me, and he said, You're one of the most irresponsible people I have ever met.

And I said, Are you kidding me?

I said, Wait, are you disagreeing that this is coming?

He said, No,

I agree with you.

We all know it's coming, but we have a responsibility to keep that away from the American people so they don't panic.

And I said, Panic comes from not knowing the truth.

I know who you're talking about.

It was the mayor of Amdee in Jaws.

I'm not going to shut this down on Fourth of July week, I know, know, because someone yells about some big fish.

See?

I don't know.

I'm very tired and I'm tired of this whole situation.

We're very fortunate, but man, it really makes me concerned for the next generation, for people coming up after me.

And this is one, it just doesn't really even enter into our mindset.

I would never think of trying to get somebody outright banned and removing their ability to make a living because they disagree with me.

Let alone, I would never think of getting someone banned because they said I'm secretly closeted homosexual.

It doesn't bother me for someone saying that I'm a jerk, for someone saying that I suck, even for someone saying that I'm a racist.

People say this stuff all the time.

Racist, sexist, homophobe.

All right, that's fine.

I don't try to get them banned.

It's a big difference.

And that's dishonest.

That's liable.

That's slander.

That actually is an actionable offense.

That being said, these people want to ban opinions they don't agree with.

And it's not about a private company being able to choose what they can and won't allow on their platform.

They'll allow it, and they'll court you until they make enough money and then decide that they want to change the rules.

That's the issue.

You know, people say that people on the left say it's white people who are just worried about losing their power.

No, this is the media worried about losing their power.

This is the left worried about losing their monopoly.

What Americans should be upset about is losing their voice, their opinions,

their traditions.

Have any tradition you want.

I don't care.

Talk about it, celebrate it, whatever.

Don't tell me what traditions I have to have or celebrate.

Don't tell me what my opinion can and cannot be.

The real problem here is we have these mega corporations that are now saying, please, federal government, please regulate us.

I don't know about you, Stephen, but I know you run your show.

I run my show.

There's not

a time, a thought.

There's not one brain cell that has ever said, boy, I wish we had more regulation.

That is insane.

What they're wanting is more regulation to shut out anybody else from competing with them because they'll be able to forward all the attorneys and everything else.

Then they'll control the portals.

You'll have to go through them.

And freedom of speech literally is dead then because they will be in groupthink and

the Bill of Rights applies to the government, not to a private corporation.

Well, that depends, again, if they're a public platform or a publisher, and that's the big argument.

They want regulations, but that's where I want to do the you know the the Aladdin say okay you want to be the world's most powerful genie and everything that comes with it you now are beholden to the regulations of a public platform no that's what you're gonna see happen because that means then you cannot allow certain voices while banning others just like you can't do that on a phone line now

they have that

they have that and the government has allowed them to get away with this kind of behavior exactly and i think

But the point is when they say they want regulations, they support things, for example, like net neutrality.

That's another thing that people understand.

Why?

Because they know they can survive the bureaucratic red tape.

But they don't want to be put in the hot seat and have to formally declare if they are a publishing website, if they're a publishing platform, I guess, or a public platform, a public utility, but they want the benefits of being a public utility.

So I don't look, I'm not looking for stringent regulation.

I think if they want regulation, we say, okay, the first step right now, Susan Wojitsky, Google, Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, Jack Dorsey, Twitter, we're going to sit you down.

Are you a publisher or are you a platform?

And then hold them to it.

Because guess what?

If they say they're a platform, what we're talking about right now is no longer a problem.

If they say they're a publisher, well, that's going to change everything and their stock price is going to change pretty dramatically too.

But they do have to decide.

They can't get the benefits of both.

I agree with you.

And I think that's exactly what conservatives should push for.

I'm not sure that

there's enough spine in Congress and the Senate to actually get that through without all kinds of other loopholes and stuff.

They should just go for that.

Publisher or platform, which is it going to be?

That's enough that would solve all of this.

Whether Washington will do it or not is another story.

Stephen, thank you so much for everything.

Thank you for leading the charge.

Thank you for being smart enough to know what the guidelines and the rules are.

You're not just too many people just get into this business like, I'm going to break all the rules because I'm a trendsetter and I'm a rebel.

You actually know what the guidelines and the rules are, and that's the only reason we can have a a reasoned debate and

a responsible position on this beachhead.

And I thank you for leading the way on it.

Thank you, Stephen.

Well, thank you very much.

I don't know the rules or guidelines anymore, but that was true yesterday, so I'll keep you posted.

I know.

Thank you very much.

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Terrence Williams is described as a born actor and comedian.

With a passion to perform, he is one of the hottest viral internet sensations with an online following now of nearly a million strong.

He was raised and born here in the Dallas kind of area, the Texas area, and a little place I'm not too familiar with called Oklahoma.

But

he decided one night, he was just a working stiff, and he decided, just, I'm going to push that public button on my Facebook page.

And literally, like, two people had been watching his stuff.

And in a very short term, his videos went to 42 million on Facebook.

What did that feel like?

First of all, Glenn,

don't ever put Oklahoma and Texas in the same sentence.

Amen on that, brother.

I will fight you, but I'm recovering from a wreck that I had three months ago.

But

yes,

you know, I didn't have any followers.

I wasn't even active on social media.

I wasn't even looking to be famous at all on social media.

And I decided to make a video one day because I just got tired of people saying, Terrence, complaining about America.

I would get on Facebook and my friends be like, Terrence, let's move back to Africa.

Move back?

I've never been to Africa.

So I said, you know what?

I'm about to make a video real quick because I'm sick of this mess.

And I heard you can go live on Facebook.

This is where you, this is when the live future just started.

So I went live.

I was eating a piece of chicken because I was on my lunch break.

So people thought that was all set up.

Like, why are you eating a piece of chicken?

And he's black.

Why are you talking?

Who don't eat chicken?

So Facebook came after me for eating chicken.

Seriously?

Yeah, because people say it was racist because I'm a black man on Facebook eating chicken.

But last time I checked,

I didn't I ate chicken last night and I think on Sunday.

Black people eat chicken, white people eat chicken, Hispanics eat matter of fact, white people eat more chicken than black people, but white people sometimes they hide their chicken like chicken noodle soup, chicken pie pie, chicken dumpling.

I'm like, dang, Becky, you eat more chicken than me.

You know?

And I did notice a lot of white folks, they, you know, black folks, we tend to go, you know, we tend to go to the chicken places, you know after five o'clock because we just got off work you know seven o'clock for dinner but the white folks they get there early 11 o'clock in the morning yeah 11 o'clock in the morning so we don't see them there right but they be there before we get there

yeah so you know i so i i made this video and just saying that you know like this is a uh trying to explain to people this is the greatest country in the world the great and if it wasn't the greatest country why is everybody moving here

why is everybody moving here and why do you want to go back to africa because first of all now anything i say on this radio station has nothing to do with blaze tv has nothing to do with glenn beck so

that won't that won't help that won't help but go ahead

yeah i can't believe glenn beck had that yeah that racist on yeah yeah he's black but he's black people can't be racist but he is yeah he is yeah now they said black people can't be racist but for some reason i'm racist You're racist.

Because I'm a conservative black.

Right.

I didn't know that.

Let's stop with the code.

It means white.

Yes.

I'm a white man because people do.

Because people do say I'm a part of the KKK.

But?

Yes.

Seriously?

I promise you.

Seriously.

Well, you are wearing a white t-shirt.

Yes, I am.

Is it a hooded t-shirt?

But you're just your clan pointy hood comes over the top?

I plead the fifth.

Did you join the clan online?

Because I don't think in person it would go that well.

I plead the fifth.

I plead the fifth.

But, you know, this is the greatest country in the world.

And I was just basically telling people, like, you know,

trying to explain to people, why would you want to move to Africa?

I know that's where, now, I don't, I know that's where some of black people ancestors are from.

I don't know about mine.

Because I got Indian in me.

You know, I got a little Irish in me.

You can't see it, but I do.

You know, I'm mixed.

So, you know, but I was basically just telling people, like, listen,

these people are moving here for a reason because this is the greatest country in the world.

So, why would you want to move there?

And first of all,

our people in Africa sold us into slavery.

You know, they sold us in slavery.

And,

you know, yes, it was wrong, but

we were sold into slavery by our own people,

and it was wrong, but you know what?

It turned out great because now we are in a country with

thousands of opportunities

that we didn't have at first.

You can be no matter your color, no matter where you come from, no matter what neighborhood you come from, no matter what family you are born into, you can be whatever you want to be

in this country, no matter what.

You can so, why would you want to move there when they're moving here?

Because they can't do what we can do.

So,

when you were growing up, did you think maybe someday I could be banned by Facebook?

You know what?

That was my biggest fear.

That was your biggest fear.

That was my biggest fear.

Yeah, yeah.

That was my biggest fear growing up.

You know,

when I graduated high school, I was so scared.

You know, my first time going to jail was

when Facebook locked me up in Facebook County jail.

Wow.

I couldn't send my auntie a happy birthday text.

I was trying to check on my exes.

I was trying to snoop.

I couldn't do anything.

Couldn't do any of it.

Yeah.

Boy, that's horrible.

But I was once banned because I posted a screenshot of the death threats that I received from a lot of people.

And

it was a screenshot of almost

about 20 screenshots of people saying

that they're going to kill me, calling me an Uncle Tom, calling me a coon,

calling me just names that are out of this world.

And Facebook banned me because they said

by me, they said

the fact that I posted them and I didn't mark out any names because if you're sending me death threats, I need everybody to know.

Okay.

So just in case something happened.

Right.

So they know where to go look.

But Facebook said that's a form of bullying by putting them on blast so wait so wait so wait so wait did those were those people banned no i was no i know that but were they also banned nah

nah they so they were threatening which is it which is more uh well it's bullying but it's more like threatening someone with their life uh and they didn't get banned but You got banned for posting their

public posts.

Their public posts and their message.

And it was a lot of messages also that they sent me in my inbox.

And

other people in Facebook, they were saying that, well, they sent you the messages privately.

So you should have kept it private.

So when I saw, I took, but when you message me.

So wait a minute.

So wait a minute.

Maybe that's where Hitler went wrong.

Instead of writing it in a public book, he should have just printed it and then personally delivered it to all the Jews.

Then that was a private issue.

That's not a

but and that way if a Jew stood up and said, hey, Hitler's threatening to gas us all, then Facebook could have said, how dare you say that about the dear leader?

Exactly.

He went to your house privately to say that to you.

Yes.

I was,

I'm not going to lie to you, Glenn, I was hurt.

I was hurt.

That was the first time Facebook hurt my feelings because I saw they were going to,

I took them screenshots.

I said, yeah, Facebook about to ban all y'all.

You know, I said, I'm snitching on everybody.

I said, I'm snitching on everybody, you know.

And then I turned around.

I tried to log in.

I said, oh, it's, I said, it's my,

it's, it's my auntie's birthday.

I'm going to go post on her, I'm going to go post on her page.

You know, a couple balloons.

And I'm about to sign in.

I'm like, why is it not?

What's going on?

What's going on?

That's how I sound.

I said, what's going on?

So I said, no,

I said, these dang iPhones, I said,

let me uninstall this app real quick.

It's always acting up.

So I uninstalled the app, turned the phone off,

did a reset,

logged.

they still couldn't log back on

and then they sent me a message saying you know terrence you've been banned buddy you know you into how long did that like did you call them did you write them did you i had to get on twitter to have my to have uh uh uh my to have some of the people who followed me you know tag facebook and go after them and i i had people sending out i had people uh uh people were making uh blogs and all this stuff then facebook reached the facebook reached out so oh we are so sorry it was an accident it was an accident those accidents yeah yeah it happened they said oh yeah it was an accident but it was not an accident because you don't they don't make them accidents with liberals

i never hear liberals on facebook or twitter well until recently you know some of them have been banned now but you never hear them complaining about being banned for you know, for nothing.

You never hear about that.

But you hear about it with us, with, you know, conservatives or Trump supporters or people are just free thinkers, period.

Free thinkers, period.

And it's been hard.

Then people tell me, well, Terrence, you kicked out the black community, too.

There were some of the messages that I received.

Wait a minute, you were kicked out of the black community?

They say you are kicked out the black community.

Is there a place you guys all meet?

I mean,

I didn't know it was an official.

I've been banned from all the barbecues.

Ever since.

You can't go into a barber shop anymore either.

And

ever since I announced my support for Trump, I've been banned from all barbecues.

I've been banned.

They said, Terrence, you kicked out the black community.

And I said, well, what does that mean?

What do you mean I'm kicked out the black community?

What is the disadvantage?

Because I never knew what the benefit was.

What do you mean I'm kicked out the black community?

And I said, in half of y'all owe me money.

So before you kick me out, pay me back.

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