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Today it's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

I'm the Glenbeck program as Stu Returns.

How was your time off?

Good.

Oh, it was fantastic, Pat.

All right, good.

Yourself?

How was yourself?

How was your day off?

They were all fantastic.

We were all honest here.

It was great to continue to work.

I feel like I heard from basically every conversation I had while I was off the air was about abortion.

Oh, really?

I mean, at first you're like, that doesn't lead to a lot of comfortable conversations per se,

but maybe babies being alive is worth a couple uncomfortable conversations.

That's kind of what I think.

Yeah.

You know, I feel like I have this weird urge to have babies be alive for longer periods.

Maybe babies could turn into children.

And if you know this, Pat, children are our future.

So that's important.

That's what I've heard, yeah.

Also, a lot of those children are going to be women one day.

You think?

So, yeah.

Do you have any evidence of that?

It does seem to be a women's rights thing to me

as well.

So, we'll get into that and a lot more in 60 seconds.

Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glenn Back program.

He's back on, I guess it's Tuesday because Monday's Memorial Day already.

Yeah, that's right.

Wow.

A church was defaced in Delaware County, which is, is that in Pennsylvania?

Delaware County?

It's in the Philadelphia diocese.

I know that.

Vandals tagged the church with abortion rights graffiti, saying you do not have the right to decide how others lives.

That is a fair point.

I've been trying to figure out when others lives for many years.

You don't have the right to decide now.

We know that.

I can decide up for myself, but I can't put onto others when others lives.

And that is, I think, the distinction they're looking for in the graffiti.

See, when you're writing this,

I can understand it when you screw up and speak it live to somebody, but when you're writing it,

I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense to add the S there.

It makes a lot of sense to try to do a draft of

each project you're going into in the graffiti world.

Yes, if you're going to deface churches,

go to a bridge first, like under a bridge where no one can see it, and try out your message there.

See how it looks, take a couple steps back, you know, turn your iPhone flashlight on it, make sure it looks right, then go to the church to deface it.

Right?

How many times have we seen white supremacists screw up a swastika

on a church?

and then look, it's just embarrassing.

If you're going to put a swastika on a religious establishment, it's important to understand which ways the lines go.

How do you expect to join your terrorist group?

Exactly.

When

you can't even spell live.

I honestly think half of these church burnings are just because they screwed up the graffiti and then they were embarrassed about it and just burned the church down.

That's true.

That's really embarrassing.

I don't have science behind that one, but I think that

might be to blame.

But I think you might be onto onto something.

You know,

even at the churches now,

we're being attacked for believing in life.

And, you know, it seems like life is something that would be okay to believe in.

The babies should be born.

It'd be okay with most people.

And apparently, that's not the case in the United States in the year 2019.

It's not okay that you believe in life and want babies to live.

Yeah, it was really interesting being off for a few days and

talking outside of these walls because here we've talked about the life issue for a very long time, and I'm sure you know that if you listen.

But it's interesting how that's breaking through as far as the conversation outside now.

I think it's one of the big political topics right now, which usually means something bad.

Usually at the end of the day,

when a normal political conversation turns into the conversation you're having outside in

normal person-to-person interaction, a lot of times what it turns into is a

non-stop politics.

I mean, a good example of this is the trade issue.

For years and years and years,

it was unions and Democrats saying we need tariffs and restrictions on trade, and Republicans saying we don't need tariffs and we don't want restrictions on trade, we want free trade.

And that was sort of the wonky sort of

think tank debate that went on for a really, really long time.

And then Donald Trump has come out and he's obviously much more friendly to tariffs and trade restrictions.

And now it just is, now it's just turned into teams.

You see the same people who were arguing unions and we need, we absolutely need these tariffs.

We got to stop this free trade stuff.

That's all this, you know, crazy voodoo economics and all the stuff that's going on the other side.

And

then now it's like, well, it's just become people who like Trump back him on it, and people who don't like Trump attack him on it.

It's just people have just switched sides.

And I think when you define, especially with someone like Trump, who's so good at like taking an issue and owning it, you know, he just is so, he has such an ability to be able to just dominate a conversation.

And people,

you see it on cable news all the time.

They can't agree with anything he says, no matter what it is.

Even if it's a position they've held for 50 years, they can't agree with him.

So it just turns into this team thing.

And I'm afraid at some level that's happening with abortion here, where again, like if you look at the polling on abortion, this third trimester abortion, which has been the general focus of this debate, is 84 to 14 against.

The American people despise third-term abortion.

They always have.

Everyone knows it's a horrific, horrific thing.

84% of Americans don't agree on the sky being blue.

Yeah.

We're really already.

That's an incredible

number of people to agree.

There's almost nothing in our political debate that is so universal.

You could almost say that's unanimous.

That's every right-thinking person in America believes that late-term abortion isn't right.

And that's not, you know, Governor Northam, well, after they're born, they'll make a decision on whether you should keep them alive.

It's not even five minutes before birth.

It's third trimester.

So you're talking, you know, what, month seven?

You know,

month seven.

That's way earlier than the types of things that Democratic candidates are involved in.

And think about this for a second.

You have

something that's unpopular

to the level of 84%.

And the Democrats have pulled out 24 candidates and not one of them will say that that's wrong.

Not one of them.

That's staggering.

Staggering.

I mean, there is an argument to be made and people who are pro-choice do make it in that essentially it's a slippery slope, right?

And

there's somewhat of an equivalency with like the Second Amendment argument.

Like

you, there probably is some sort of common sense restriction on guns that Republicans could get on board on.

Every once in a while, you see, like, background checks, and it polls really well.

However, you know, most people who really care about the Second Amendment are like, look, I don't want those things because I know what you're doing.

You're going to take, you're going to ask for one inch, you're going to take a mile, and then you'll take 10 miles, and then you're seeing the entire globe.

And we're seeing it right now.

You're seeing what Beto Aurora came out against all semi-automatic weapons.

Like, these are things that are way beyond what they said they were asking for in the common sense realm just a few months ago.

So, as the Second Amendment guy, and I'm not a huge gun guy, but I'm a huge Second Amendment guy,

I am,

and I know you're the same way, I don't want to give one inch on any of this stuff because you know they're coming for all of it.

So maybe that's the same thing with some people on the abortion argument.

They think they're going to come for first, you know, first trimester abortions.

So they defend to the death five minutes before,

you know, birth abortions, defend to the death being pretty appropriate here.

I just,

it's so incredibly unpopular.

Second trimester abortions are also incredibly unpopular.

I think it's a 37-point gap to the negative on second trimester abortion.

On whether they should be allowed.

Right, they should.

Everyone says second and third trimester abortions should be illegal.

That's why anyone that pulls well is the first trimester.

It's the first trimester, and it's slightly positive.

However, again, like Republicans in general, and Alabama is an exception here, as they were going after basically six weeks or so.

Most Republican states are asking for 20-week abortion bans.

That's the typical Republican

position.

Interestingly, though, this week there was a poll that said

55% of Americans are in favor of the heartbeat bills.

That's not, I mean, that's a surprise

really.

I mean, it's, but it's, you wouldn't, to listen to these Democrats, you wouldn't think that

anyone would be in favor of the heartbeat bill.

But 55%,

that's most Americans that

as soon as you know there's a heartbeat, you can't have an abortion.

And then you look at that, and then you see the stance of all of these candidates on the Democrat side, and it just doesn't add up.

It just doesn't make any sense.

They can't find one?

I mean, this is a party, like, you know, one of the biggest abortion rulings in the Supreme Court was Casey.

And, you know, this goes back to

years and years ago now, but now you have a Democratic senator named Casey, same family, and they can't find one candidate, one candidate to come out.

I mean, it used to be that there were pro-life Democrats.

This used to be something.

And while it was always hard for us to understand, because how can you be on the side of the party that's fighting for unlimited abortions?

They still had them.

Now we're at the point where, like, you, I mean, you can't, you can't even, can you even enter this race if you happen to be pro-life?

I don't think so.

I don't think you can even enter it.

I don't know if you can enter the Democrat Party if you're pro-life anymore.

I don't see how there's anything.

There doesn't seem to be any place for a pro-life person in the Democrat Party anymore.

Yeah, and you could say, well, it's just one issue.

I agree with them on these other things.

And I understand that instinct, but when we're talking about live, I mean, how many million

60 million babies?

It's like 62 million now.

62 million people that should be living aren't, right?

Because of this one policy.

It's a pretty big deal.

And if you believe,

not a

big deal at some level if you're on the left, right?

Because you think of it as a cultural issue.

You think of it as, well, I mean, I don't think many people actually believe it's women's rights, but it's at least a stand-in for women's rights, right?

No one, because no one cares what you do to your body if it doesn't affect another life.

It's only a matter of if another person's rights are affected.

But, you know, it's a stand-in for women's rights.

It's kind of a generic summary.

of women's rights and something that they say they need to defend.

So at some level, it's important to the left, but it's really more of just a cultural issue.

To the right, we're talking about people living and dying.

And if you're saying that this is an actual life, it obviously has to be the most important thing, right?

If the end of this is 60 million people that should be alive aren't, what other policy has that effect on anything?

I mean, you know, we've made this point before, Pat, that we could probably come in here every day and we would bore the hell out of you in the audience.

But we could come in here every day and talk about abortion and our ratings would be like 0.004.

However, morally, I could be completely

content with that.

I can be completely content with that.

Because that's, I mean, there's no other issue with the possible exception, and it's a much larger and more difficult road of just generally speaking capitalism, right?

Because capitalism really has ripped billions of people out of poverty.

And you can make the argument that it's even more important, I guess.

But when you're talking about just a law that could be changed, a ruling that could be changed, that could just protect millions and millions of lives.

There's just nothing that competes with abortion.

It's the simple, the most simple road to keep tens of millions of people, which are also will grow up to be women, will grow up to be minorities, will grow up to be,

will have different sexual orientations.

Every single,

many of them probably, you know, just because of the fact that Planned Parenthood just loves to target inner-city neighborhoods, probably most of them wind up voting for Democrats.

Like, this is an argument in which Republicans are just on, are saying, please, Lord God, let us give you more voters.

Right.

Right?

How many of them would have been out of 62 million people?

Could one of them have been another Einstein?

Absolutely.

Could one of them have been another Madame Curie?

Yeah.

Could one of them have cured cancer?

Many of them.

Yes.

And here's the thing: maybe 10 million of them would have been awful.

Right.

They still should have the chance to be good.

Right.

That's right.

They could all be the most annoying.

They could all be the people who are programming the Robocalls.

Like, I don't care if all of them, all 60 million got into the robocall industry.

They still deserve the right to life.

Okay, yes.

All right.

Back in 60 seconds.

Matt Gray from Pat Grand Leashed.

And Stu back from vacation for Glenn this week.

Kirsten Gillibrand was talking about abortion yesterday.

You have basic civil rights.

Here she was on MSNBC.

What would you say to taxpayers out there who say, look, I support everyone having their own freedoms, but that when it comes to my tax dollars, abortion isn't something that I want to support.

You know, we have a tenet in our Constitution.

It's called separation of church and state.

Oh, really?

And I do not believe that that is a valid argument.

I think that the High Amendment should be repealed and that we actually need to make sure that women, regardless of their income level, have a basic right to reproductive care.

It's about our humanity and it's about our basic civil rights.

A basic right to reproductive care.

Well, it's in the Constitution, Pat.

And when I say in it,

I think it's on the back and a fold, it's folded on it.

So if you open up,

it is in the back.

And then you got to be able to heat it up like they did on

Nicholas Cage movie?

Oh, yeah.

National Treasure?

Yeah, National Treasure.

You got to take a blow dryer, and you've got to be really careful.

A little lemon juice on it, and then the blow dryer, and it'll show up.

Amazing, the founders predicted the blow dryer, which I thought pretty impressive because they didn't even have a lot of electricity at the time.

I think some of them assumed you could just do it with your hot breath, but then other founders said, no, they're going to invent something eventually where they can dry their hair really quick.

I think that'll do the job.

Because the separation of church and state, not in the Constitution.

Not in the Constitution.

It was in a letter.

Yes.

Thomas Jefferson

to a Baptist minister in Connecticut who was asking about, you know, hey, are we going to be in trouble here with

the state because we're not of the state religion?

And that's

where it came in.

So

you've got to separate.

It's a protection against the religion, not the government.

You don't have to protect the state from religion.

That's pretty incredible.

It's really the exact reverse

of the way it's talked about now.

And the fact that a senator who's running for president is not aware that the separation of church and state is in the Constitution, or is not in the Constitution, is pretty stunning in a normal time.

With this field, it's not stunning at all.

Because they've got, I mean, there are 24 candidates up there now.

Bill de Blasio getting in while I was in the city.

Yeah, we have any nation.

You haven't even moved him over on the board yet.

He's still on our on-the-fence list.

Jesus' pretty hacked off about that.

Yeah, that was a big part of his initial press conference.

Why have I not been moved on the Glenn Beck presidential board?

But, you know, the fact that she doesn't even know that.

And then you realize when they talk, when people on the left talk about abortion,

you just realize they're just saying things that don't make any sense.

Right?

Like, you know,

this sort of prenatal, like reproductive health care concept, like, there's a reason you have to make up a fake term for it.

We all know it's not reproductive health care.

That is not what an abortion is.

Reproductive health care might mean making sure you have the right nutrients and vitamins.

If you have an issue with, you know, morning sickness, reproductive health care, absolutely.

Postpartum depression, reproductive health care.

I'm willing to go to any of those.

That makes sense.

Obviously, the baby itself, whether you're having an internal lady issue,

whatever the issue,

just killing the baby is not reproductive health.

That's not what it is.

Right, because it's not healthy for the baby.

I don't know if people are aware of that.

That's not health care when you're killing someone.

No.

No, I mean, just like, you know, assisted suicide comes around and it's like, well, should people be able to kill themselves?

We made the point.

It's very difficult to prevent them to.

Right.

It's really like you can make all the laws you want saying, don't kill yourself.

What are you going to do afterwards?

Fine the guy?

you're going to give him a ticket after they're dead like i generally speaking it's difficult uh to stop people from killing themselves but we the reproductive health care having a doctor come in and keep you uh out of pain with certain drugs uh all that can be defined as health care actually killing the patient cannot be defined as health care Like that's just not health care.

It's not

ending lives is not health care.

It's not what it is.

It's something else.

And you might like it, but it's still not health care.

And they just say reproductive health care.

They say women's rights because these are stand-ins for the terrible thing that they're arguing for.

Also, prenatal care is not something that Planned Parenthood even does.

No.

They don't even do prenatal health care.

They don't do the cancer screenings.

They don't do breast cancer screenings.

They can refer you to get one, which is really helpful.

But they don't do mammograms.

And we hear that all the time.

Well, you're cutting off people's ability to get a mammogram.

They don't even do them.

You can't even get one there.

And it's like Planned Parenthood is the only place on earth that does health care, which they don't really do at all.

And now it's the opposite.

They've put in people's minds that that's the only place anybody can get it done.

Yeah.

It's like I always make this argument with people who bring up the healthcare thing.

If you ever go to a KFC and Taco Bell, you know, they're combined there.

There's KFC and Taco Bell.

Well, and I love, I'm a big Taco Bell guy.

Let's say I'm against KFC and I love Taco Bell.

Well, if they separated them into two restaurants, I would just go to the Taco Bell one, right?

So if you're Planned Parenthood, just separate all your wonderful healthcare things from abortion and see how much people protest.

I'll give you the news, not at all.

They're not going to say one freaking word about the Taco Bell side of that.

They're just going to protest the KFC side of it.

And that is the thing.

It's like if you stopped doing abortions, you get all the funding that every other women's healthcare clinic gets.

It's just about that.

And we all know for you, it's just about that as well.

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Also, sounding off another one of the long list of endless Democrat candidates for president, Mayor Pete, Pete Budij.

Butijage?

Buddij.

Was asked by MSNBC if he supports any abortion restrictions at all.

You can't pin these guys down on any restrictions.

Here's what Pete had to say.

And you've been saying that it should be left to women to decide where to draw the line, even in the third trimester.

So I just want to pin you down on this.

Are there any restrictions on abortion rights that you support?

The framework for this is established in Roe versus Wade.

Early in pregnancy, very few restrictions.

Late in pregnancy, very few exceptions.

And that has stood as the law of the land for as long as I've been alive.

What's radical is the idea of banning abortion outright, the thought that a woman who is raped and seeks abortion care could find her doctor going to prison for longer than her rapists.

What is new and what is extreme is the assault on Roe versus Wade, which has established the framework for common sense protections, restrictions, and exceptions that have been the law of the land for as long as I've been alive and are now being overturned or threatened with being overturned by a radical agenda.

It's staggering that they're turning this around on pro-life people being the radicals, the extremists.

When they are seeking abortion all the way up to including an afterbirth.

But we're the radicals.

We're the extremists.

I will say, however, there is

alerting the Democratic activists who listen to this program and do often.

If you're out there, press Mayor Pete on that.

He's giving you an answer you are not comfortable with.

Very few exceptions in the third trimester.

He said, and he correctly stated what Roe versus Wade says, which is very early in the pregnancy, there's basically no restrictions.

And very late in the pregnancy, there's basically no exceptions, meaning that you can't get an abortion late in the pregnancy and it can be absolutely restricted by the states to the point of it being completely illegal in all circumstances.

So that's an interesting thing because Roe versus Wade is this thing that Republicans and conservatives and people who are pro-life look at as this really negative thing, which of course it was a terrible ruling, and we can go over that and have a million times.

However, it's a massive move to the right from where we are now.

It would be a

generational shift towards conservatism to go back to just looking at Roe versus Wade as the text stands.

Because that is not where we are now.

We're talking about, you know,

we're talking about, we're having a conversation about whether a baby that is already born should get any medical attention after it's born.

We're talking about whether a baby can be aborted while the mother is in labor and about to pass the baby through the birth canal.

Can you abort it?

That's the conversation we're having now.

Roe versus Wade, you can barely see that from where we are.

If Mayor Pete thinks he can get away in a Democratic primary with 24 candidates, I'm saying Roe versus Wade is the way to go, I hope some of the people listening to this program looking to start a new boycott will get Mayor Pete called on that one because

that is not what the Democratic Party says they want right now.

He says no restrictions.

No, there's a lot of restrictions in Roe versus Wade.

And really, that's what's re-energized the pro-life movement was the radicalism of the New York state law.

Yep, and Vermont just passed.

Yeah.

And Virginia, which didn't pass because of the controversy, largely because of the pushback.

Because people keep saying, like, well, it was one guy said this.

First of all, New York and Vermont are not one guy.

Okay.

Secondly, yes, Northam

said this one thing where he said, well, look, if the baby's born and it's there and it was supposed to be aborted and it survives the abortion, well, then the woman and the doctor will have a conversation about what to do, you know, whether you treat it or not.

And yes, that's one guy.

However, the question was asked because another question

in the same vein was asked to the assembly woman who designed the bill.

And she had to admit that, yeah, you could abort a baby while the mother's in labor.

So that was, it was the bill, the person who wrote the bill said, yes, that was allowed under the bill.

It was not one person just blurting out and making a mistake about it.

It was in the bill.

And we forget about that.

And now Vermont has passed a law that says basically all the way to birth.

And I'm just glad that these candidates are getting pushed on important issues like this.

You know, Mayor Pete, he got pushed on it a little bit.

I think Democrats need to come back after him, get him, you know, because he's not going to be able to win a primary here unless he's saying, you know, unless he's legitimately shouting his abortion.

You know, that is basically the place you need to be.

I mean, I don't know.

Have anyone asked Kamala Harris about this?

Do we know where she stands?

No, but she was pinned down yesterday.

She was.

Yeah.

This is really good because her feet were, in fact, held to the fire yesterday on CNN by Allison Camarada.

And this is probably because Allison Camarada is a she's an alumni of Fox News.

Oh, yeah.

So obviously

she's going to hold her feet to the fire.

Okay.

Here's what happened.

We have a little fun kicker that we like to do with all of the presidential candidates that come on each day.

It's called candidate mixtape.

That was the musical sting for it.

And we like to talk a lot about music here on this program.

So what is your favorite musical genre?

Wow.

I mean,

I'm hip-hop and reggae and jazz.

Those are some of my favorites.

Okay, do you have a favorite band or a favorite musician?

I'd say one of my favorites is Bob Marley.

Oh, my God.

Good choice.

You can't go wrong with that.

That's a crowd pleaser.

On your mixtape, what would be like your favorite three songs?

Favorite three songs?

Wow, good question.

Okay, let's see.

Aretha Franklin,

anything, Aretha Franklin.

This is terrible.

She's not prepared for this.

I would say she is not prepared for Carley.

This might end her career right here.

I don't know.

I love Cardi B.

Still not a single song in there.

As she says,

those were great.

Thank you for playing along.

Oh, my God.

No, wasn't that powerful?

Good interview.

Because I love the idea that, like, instead of pressing around the abortion at like one second before birth, you're going after her favorite songs,

which I love.

However, I got to say, her answers are so bad.

They're terrible.

Well, what are the three genres I can list that have you can't criticize?

Like, if you're going to pick three, it's got to be hip-hop, reggae,

and jazz.

And then, well, who's your favorite?

Bob Marley.

All right.

Like, do you have any knowledge of it?

Like, that's what I would say.

As a big reggae fan myself visiting Jamaica once, I would say probably Bob Marley because other than Ziggy Marley, I couldn't pick anyone else that I knew.

No, I couldn't either.

Right?

And then, what are your favorite three artists?

Your favorite three songs.

Or songs on your mixtape.

And she didn't name any songs.

She said Bob Marley again.

Cardi B, which again, it's just like,

that one should be controversial.

Here's a woman who has described herself how she would drug Johns as a dancer and steal their money.

You want to talk about a Me Too violation?

I mean, that's like

that's not controversial at all.

You could absolutely just blurt that out as a presidential candidate.

No big deal, Cardi B.

And who was the third one?

Gosh, I don't even remember.

Aretha Franklin.

Can you come up with a safer answer than Aretha Franklin?

No.

I mean, like, that is just, I'm actually more angry about her songs than the abortion issue.

Like,

I am now, pro-life is now secondary.

I just have a constant jihad against Kamala Harris's music choices.

But, boy, these reporters, these journalists really pinned down these candidates.

You remember

one of them from the New York Times, Jeff Zeleni, did the same thing to Obama a few years ago.

What has surprised you the most about this office, enchanted you the most

about serving in this office, humbled you the most,

and troubled you the most?

Let me write this down.

See, but you remember that?

Okay.

And I don't know that he ever recovered from that brutal question.

I think he was searching for his level of enchantment his entire two terms, and he never quite got there, which is sad.

It's just, it's amazing to watch these Democrats be fond over.

And then, you know, they practically bring weapons to a Donald Trump interview.

It's...

It's amazing.

There's no objectivity anymore at all.

We spent a decent time this hour talking about abortion, and

it's not only an important issue, it's also the clearest example, I think, of media bias.

And people talk about media bias, obviously, like sometimes the fake news thing can be overdone, and the media bias thing can be an easy thing for Republicans to say all the time about every issue, right?

And it's almost universally true at some level.

But you look at this when someone like Todd Aiken, remember Todd Aiken?

He ran for Senate back in

2010, was it?

Yeah, and and he said something inappropriate about rape.

Rape.

I think he said that they don't.

Do you see that?

If it's a legitimate rape, the body will reject

the pregnancy or something.

It was a very strange comment.

And look, Aiken took a beating for it, probably deserved a beating for it, and lost the election

probably because of it.

However, if it ended there, it would have been fine.

Right?

Like, you could say if someone says something wrong, whether you think that comment is right or wrong or, you know, whatever, the person who says it should be criticized for it right like that's how that debate should happen but that's not how it happened with aiken every other republican candidate was forced to answer for his comments he's forced with northam it's not like that at all democrats don't get their feet held to the fire they don't have to answer for what he said or what many others have said they don't get i mean every republican gets asked the question hey rape and incest hey uh life of the mother health of the mother the most difficult decisions uh to be made about abortion, no matter how you feel about them, right?

These are the tough borderline ones that someone who's really pro-choice might have an, or pro-life, might have an issue with.

Well,

you'd say the same thing basically about an abortion five minutes before birth, whether a baby that survives an abortion should get medical care.

You have to put yourself in the mind of a hardcore leftist.

That's where they're making their decisions, right?

So, wouldn't it follow that every journalist, every single time they had one of these Democratic candidates on, would be forced to give me the day.

I want the minute that

you're able to

have some rights as a quote-unquote fetus.

What is that minute?

When does it start?

Is there any abortion restriction?

You heard Mayor Pete get asked that question, but with no follow-up.

I mean, the fact that he could just throw out, well, Roe versus Wade is good and we shouldn't overturn it is not an answer to that question.

And Republicans all had to answer that question.

They all had to answer it over and over and over and over again, even though they weren't the ones advocating any other policy.

And so you see that real media bias there is that Republicans are pushed to the most uncomfortable places in their policy where Democrats are given this sort of blanket, well, do you like women?

Do you like rights?

How do you feel about rights?

What about health care?

Do you think women should be denied health care?

And they get to answer these questions like that.

Well, you know, of course, that is that's the

subtle media bias.

It's easy to find things where they go after Donald Trump and bash him unfairly.

And those things absolutely exist.

They're all over the place.

But it's stuff like that, that these people will never have to make the uncomfortable, unpopular statement because they're never pressed on it.

And they don't go on shows like this.

They don't go on shows

like, you know, Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin or Steven Crowder or any of them.

They don't, they don't have to deal with it.

The only time they'll ever go on Fox News is when they're going up against like Shepard Smith, and Shep Smith won't ask those questions because he's on their side on them.

So

it's a very subtle thing that I think if a journalist from the outside might look at it and say, well, both were asked about their abortion positions.

But how?

How are they asked about it?

You know,

it puts Republicans in the most unpopular and unpleasant light as possible and puts Democrats in the exact opposite.

They get the nice morning sunshine.

They could just answer, give you a nice flowery answer.

Like, I mean, look, Buddha Judge's answer is pathetic.

You know, look, Roe versus Wade is the law of the land, but we shouldn't overturn it.

That's not an answer to that question at all.

No, it is not.

888-727-B-E-C-K.

It's Patton Stu for Glenn on the Glenbeck program.

Patton Stu for Glenn.

Glenbeck Program.

Let's go to Tom in North Carolina.

Hey, Tom, you're on the Glenbeck program with Patton Stu.

Good morning, gentlemen.

How are you?

Good.

Listen, I...

This popped into my head in the car, and I haven't fleshed this idea out at all.

Matter of fact, that's why I'm calling.

I want you guys to help flesh out this concept that might bring the liberals around on the issue of abortion.

So I thought if we started referring to the unborn as the undocumented,

that might give them a different take on the issue.

That's true, because, I mean, you don't get your birth certificate until you're born.

And when it starts talking about that, like they're their papers,

and they're just on the other side of the border.

We just need to get them over here

and get them documented.

Yes, you wouldn't kill them on the other side of the border.

Right.

Right?

So, yes, I knew you guys.

They're undocumented humans.

I'm fully on board on this idea.

Thanks a lot, Thomas.

That's a genius idea.

Because you can't build a wall, essentially, that prevents them from coming to this side, right?

Right.

That's

a wall is

a wall.

Yes.

It's a wall preventing them to come from one side of the birth canal to the other.

And that's

actually not a bad idea at all.

It isn't.

And that documentation, it's real.

They're just not.

When you get born, is when you get documented.

Stunningly, in this country, we will just not give documentation.

That's what someone should pass.

Like in Alabama, it should just be like, we're going to give the birth certificate

when you find out about the pregnancy.

And then, look, you could just,

you're just going to have to crumple that thing up as you walk out of Planned Parenthood if you want to.

But they will be documented.

And at that point, you can't do anything to someone who's documented.

I mean, undocumented protects you that's a great country yes it does i think i i like it i think it'll i think it'll work

just to bail on that if it actually did come true they would just bail on that part of their policy well they'll do anything to protect abortion anything it's weird isn't it it's like that it's a religion to them it is absolutely a religion that and climate change are their two strongest religions uh i don't know why i don't know how it brings them money or power uh but for some reason they worship at the altar of abortion there's There's no question.

Well, the climate thing can bring money and power to anything.

That's why they like the climate thing, because it's all-encompassing.

It controls the entire economy.

The abortion thing is different.

I mean, it is a weird one.

It's a dark church, man.

It's a dark church to be in.

This is the Glenbeck program.

Today with Pat Gray in for Glenn, and you can catch my own show, Pat Gray Unleashed, which happens weekday mornings right before the Glenbeck Radio extravaganza with Glenn and Stu, and and Stu is back today.

Welcome back, Stu.

Thank you, Pat.

I appreciate that.

We've got to get into this.

There's some legislation now to try to stop tech companies from tracking us online.

There's also something going on that the FCC where they might allow phone companies to not complete phone calls from scammers, which

I am all about that.

We'll get into that coming up in about 60 seconds.

Pat and Stu for Glenn this week.

Legislation is

passing through Congress right now to stop tech companies from tracking our online

surfing.

And it's getting some momentum, I guess, as Congress is trying to crack down now on big tech's privacy practices.

On Tuesday, Senator Josh Hawley unveiled a do-not-track bill

with some tough penalties for companies who break the protections.

And that

revives a debate over whether users should be allowed to opt out of the tracking and data collection.

I think you should be allowed to opt out.

In fact, you should have to opt into it.

I hate the opt-out thing because a lot of times you don't know what you're opting out of.

You didn't even know you needed to opt out of something.

Yeah,

I had an issue with my Yahoo mail accounts that I started for my children.

Yeah.

So I started them when they were born.

I started email addresses and I was emailing them little pieces of advice and videos and pictures of like things that we did when they were too young to remember.

That's adorable, Stu.

That is adorable.

I am adorable, and I know that.

I like that.

However, it was less adorable when they just deleted the accounts for no reason.

And I lost all the stuff that I sent.

Oh, wow.

Now, I say all, and everyone points this out on social media, and I appreciate you coming to my rescue here.

There are some that I can save because I sent them from my sent accounts.

However, it wasn't just me who was doing it.

It was other relatives and things.

I mean, it's really annoying.

And just to try to repurpose it all back together, it'll be better than nothing.

Did you ever find out why that happened?

Yes, I did.

Yes, I did.

It's just there in black and white.

It was there in black and white.

That's what the customer service representative told me.

It's there in black and white.

In

the very lengthy agreement that I signed on to when I opened the account.

Accept.

When I pressed accept and did not, of course, read it because no human being on earth has ever read one of these documents.

The terms and conditions did apply to me, and because I didn't log in frequently enough, now, of course,

it's an account for my kids, not for me.

Right.

And I signed up with,

they had to give you a sentence, hey, if we need to contact you, what are your other email addresses?

What's your phone number?

I put all that information in, thinking that if there was an issue, I would get an alert that came to the other account and said, hey, you haven't logged in in too long of a period of time or whatever is into this agreement you signed.

You got no such thing.

No, nothing.

So they just deleted to them all.

And this is the thing.

You probably can opt out of it.

And the way you opt out is not using them.

That is the current thing.

You don't have to, as you would know, Pat, you don't have to use Facebook.

This is something that Americans now believe that is a requirement of their life.

You can get through it without Facebook, without Twitter, without Instagram.

It's possible to live.

It is possible.

And I do think that makes me a little nervous when we talk about new legislation and controls on these companies in that, you know, there's a difference between what is

a right and what is just awesome.

And the internet is like one of those things that's just awesome.

It's not your right to be be on the internet.

It's not.

You want to pass a constitutional amendment that says it is?

Go ahead.

Try it.

You might even get it through.

I mean, I think probably Republicans and Democrats would probably agree that access to the internet in some way should be a right.

Maybe they would be able to get that through.

But for right now, a company can essentially say, if you want to do business with us, you live by our rules.

And we're going to track you.

And we're going to track you.

And that's the reason why this service is free.

Like, it's almost like they should say, if you want to pay $9.95 a month for Facebook, then we won't track you at all.

And that actually might be a place that makes sense in the middle.

I wouldn't pay $9.95 for Facebook because I don't care about it.

However, if I did care about it, I might do that to avoid the tracking.

I might say, you know what, fine, I'll pay $9.95 a month and don't track me.

Problem is, so many other things are tracking you anyway, you know, and I understand.

So I understand this approach.

Google, right?

Doesn't Google keep track of virtually everything we do online?

Yeah.

I mean, if you use their browser.

I know, I love that because people are like, well,

I'm able to block this because I'm, but I'm using, you know, you're using Google's.

I don't use any Google.

Glenn used to say this.

I don't use any Google products.

I don't use any Gmail or any of that.

I don't use Google Maps, none of it, because I know I don't want Google tracking me.

What browser do you search?

Chrome.

How do you search?

Google.

But in fact, I don't even call it search.

I call it Googling.

And really, what are you going to search with?

Lycos?

Ask Jeeves.

Ask Jeeves.

It's always Ask Jeeves, man.

I mean, here's a nice guy who promises never to track you.

He's a butler.

Jeeves doesn't care about where you're going online.

He's just a nice guy.

He's not trying to sell you a bunch of stuff.

Yeah.

And I will say,

before you do it, DuckDuckGo is another

thing that will search for you and apparently not track you.

However, if you're using it on Chrome, you may have an issue.

Right.

But yes, DuckDuckGo is the big one, the privacy-based search engine that a lot of people will point to.

And it does seem to work actually pretty well.

It's not like Ask Jeeves, which I'm sure is great.

There's still no search engine really that can compete with Google, right?

Even Bling is, or Bing, or whatever that is.

I mean, Bing, I've tried it a few times, and it's just, it's not,

it's just not Google.

And are you really that excited about being tracked by Microsoft instead of Google?

Like, it's that really get you, that doesn't get me hot.

I'll say that.

It's like you want someone, you have to almost go with a privacy-based one that's doing it just for that.

And even then, you're still getting tracked at some level by somebody else, your IP company.

You know, it's funny because they've been talking about the way these things develop, and so many of them are, you know, are able to skate through all of these rules.

I mean,

as the technology develops, it's developed so quickly they can't keep up with all of the rules.

Now, that's a good reason why it's been so great.

That's why the internet has been so great.

They haven't been victimized by the business regulation that every other business.

It's been largely left alone.

It's kind of the wild, wild west still.

And the negatives do exist.

The tracking's there.

There are some negatives to that.

But overall, I don't think they're going to be able to do it.

It's a pretty good experience.

And maybe, you know, because these are private companies, maybe I shouldn't want the government to get involved in cracking down on their tracking.

But I do want them to.

It's just one of those things that's annoying enough

to just want anyway.

And the other thing I want is for them to stop the robo calls on my cell phone.

It used to be that your cell phone, I thought, was like sacrosanct in that regard, that they couldn't call your cell phone.

And I think that's when it costs you money when people call you,

when they called, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

So that opened up the floodgates of robocalls and spammers and scammers.

And they're trying to, the FCC is about to allow the phone companies to not complete those calls, which would be fantastic.

Now, will some dolphins get caught up in that tuna net where some people that want to complete a call to you are not able to?

I'm sure that'll happen.

Yeah, there's like debt collectors.

They're all upset about this.

Well, we gotta get a hold of our debtors and bother them.

Well,

okay, but

maybe you shouldn't maybe you shouldn't be placing that many calls at a time that that the

that the software thinks you're a you're a spammer.

I don't know.

Maybe maybe leave people alone a little bit.

Well, how am I going to collect my debt?

I don't know, but I want the spam to stop.

I just, I don't know how to fix it for the debt collectors.

But I want the.

In fact, I got a couple examples that I've had just recently

on my cell phone, and they do leave messages.

If you don't answer,

they'll leave you messages.

And sometimes it's in Chinese.

Have you ever gotten the calls of the spammers in Chinese?

I have not had that.

No.

I get these all the time, though.

Oh, my God.

I get

something about a warranty they want to give me for my car.

You get that one all the time.

Warranty

Drive me out of my mind.

I'm not going to fall for this.

But of course, this is the type of thing that they don't need a person who's listening to talk radio to fall for it.

They need the person who barely knows how to press buttons on their phone to fall for it.

The person who's 75 or 80 and doesn't really understand

how it works with spam and scam calls.

And when you get this kind of call, sometimes it can be scary to people.

And once it gets expired after that, you will be taken under custody by the local police.

Can you believe that?

They were going to take me under custody.

Oh, my gosh.

By the local police in my area.

In my local area.

Those police.

Now, they didn't bother to tell you what area that was.

They didn't tell me what.

Because you know it.

You're local.

So you know the local area.

I know which police office

department is going to come after me.

Right.

I know.

As there are four serious allegations pressed on your name at this moment.

Oh, my God.

Four serious allegations pressed on my name.

How many allegations do do you have pressed on your name?

I would assume it's not four.

It's not four.

I've got one or two guarantee.

They be pressed against my name.

I've conducted so much illegal activity that there's four allegations pressed on my name.

We would request you to get back to us

so that we can discuss about this case

before taking any legal action against you.

Oh, that's nice.

The number to reach us is 518-615-7980.

I only encourage everyone to call that number.

Only everyone.

They're going to repeat it, so if you missed it the first time.

518.

518.

615.

615.

7980.

7980.

So they want you to call, so I would.

And then there was

this particular call just this week.

Very time-sensitive and urgent that I do hear back from you before we proceed further with suspension of your social and assets.

Can you believe they're going to suspend my social?

Your social is going to be completely suspended?

Suspended.

Oh, my gosh.

And my assets.

Now, I don't know what social of mine, my Twitter account,

my Facebook, what social, my social security number?

You suspend a social security number?

Just my social.

My direct call.

Back number is 386.

386-243-2465.

7865 again.

7865.

She's going to say it.

My back is 386.

386.

243-2465-7865.

I would say here, because, look, they are soliciting calls to this number, but there's a reason they're soliciting calls to this number, so you may not want to not call it.

You may not want to call.

Because it's not going to annoy them.

It's going to wind up putting you on a list, and then you're going to get these calls.

So

don't want to hesitate before you're next to me.

Could this be some way that

they scam money out of you when you do call?

Yeah, I can't remember what podcast it was.

One of these podcasts that looks into strange things and technology.

I want to say it was Reply All, but I don't remember which one it was.

Anyway, they looked into these robocalls and tried to track the source of them, which was pretty interesting because there was one guy who was working at a company

and I want to say it was,

I want to say it was TripAdvisor or Yelp.

Okay.

It was one of those like review companies and they were having issues because legitimate resorts were like getting terrible reviews on, I think it was TripAdvisor.

And they were getting these reviews because spam people like this were calling with robocalls and saying, you should call us back

and book your free vacation to Blank Resort.

And so people would hear that, would call, and of course it was a scam.

They just redirected them to try to buy some expensive vacation to another crappy resort completely unrelated.

They were using a big name resort to cover the fraud.

And then the real company was getting the bad reviews.

Because people were thinking, oh, they're just screwing me.

Wow.

So they went to try to find this, and they tracked it down

to these companies in Mexico and Central America that were using like one guy in like his living room in the United States to make like hundreds of millions of robocalls.

Wow.

And, you know, the guy wound up getting in a lot of trouble because he did violate all sorts of laws and seemingly just acted.

His excuse was essentially,

I didn't really know.

You know, sorry, no,

it doesn't work with me.

No.

Is he on death row?

No.

I don't think he is.

He didn't get the death penalty?

I don't think he got the death penalty.

That's wrong.

Almost.

It was close.

It's just wrong.

People hate those things, man.

Oh,

more in 60 seconds.

Patton Stew for Glenn.

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So the guy who was responsible for all those hundreds of millions of robocalls, we found out what they...

He did not get the death penalty.

No.

He's not on death row.

I believe he was fined $120 million, though.

Oh, that's a good signal.

Which is a significant amount.

That's a significant amount of money.

money.

A notable amount of money.

Yes.

It was actually, now that I'm remembering it, it was a story from Wired.com.

Perhaps the best part of the story is the guy who uncovered the giant Robocall scam.

His name was Fred Garvin.

If you know Fred Garvin, male prostitute from the Saturday Night Live,

Fred Garvin, male prostitute.

That was Dan Aykroyd's bit in like the 70s,

maybe 80s.

Was it his real name?

It's his real name, I guess.

I think it was Fred Garvin.

No, maybe it wasn't his real name.

I can't remember.

Because this guy's become like the Robocall hunter because he found this one particular guy.

But he had made over 100 million phone calls, robocalls, and was fined $120 million, was dragged in front of Congress.

I'll tweet the article out.

While you're being tracked by

all of your technology, you can now be tracked to look at

an article with a guy whose name is the same as a male prostitute.

So I don't know know what that's going to do to your future employment prospects, but read it anyway.

It's really fascinating because, I mean, you just realize that

it's almost impossible for them to stop it because you're talking, they can create fake numbers.

Yeah, they roll over.

I mean,

as soon as you block one call, it just rolls over to the next number.

And the way they had to do it was the guy signed up for as many shady lists as he could with his cell phone and then hoped he would get robocalls and started recording the robocalls so that he could try to track them.

Because they give you legitimate numbers you can call, which then forwards you to some offshore phone bank where they don't even know necessarily where the call came from.

They don't know that you were told that you were going to get some Marriott resort.

They just know sell them this timeshare.

It's like there's all these disconnected pieces.

Not everyone knows which part is which.

The guy at the end of the road might not even know if what he's selling is real or not.

And they might not even be in the country so how do you even track it down it's just it's one of these things that i think like it feels good for uh legislators to try to come up with a rule to stop it because it's so freaking annoying yes it is at the end of the day though are they going to be able to stop someone in you know bangladesh from making the phone call so many of them are overseas yeah so many of them are out of the country and you can tell when they say things like and once it gets expired after that you will be taken under custody by the local police you'll be taken under custody local police by local police there are four serious allegations pressed on the name.

Pressed on your name.

When they say things like, there are going to be four serious allegations pressed on your name, you know, they're probably not English speakers.

So it's coming from somewhere else.

It's funny, though, man.

And you can disregard it.

They say that

the whole scam when it comes to the Nigerian prince situation.

You know,

if you're in the middle of a negotiation with a Nigerian prince, I don't want to, I don't, I mean, maybe yours is real.

I don't know.

Funny guy.

Usually, though, the Nigerian prince prince did not just fall out of power and have $100 billion in the split with you.

Really?

Yeah, it's usually not the way it works.

And a lot of times you get those emails and you read them.

You're like, how could anyone fall for this?

Like, they're not even spelling the words right.

They're not in the right order.

You know, like, I get the idea that, like, he's supposed to be a Nigerian prince, so maybe he wouldn't have perfect English.

But you get the thing of, like, if you're going to make a multi-million dollar transaction with someone you've never met, perhaps they should know the language a little bit.

Perhaps.

Perhaps.

And so you think,

why can't they even take the time to spell the words right?

Why can't they even take the time to understand the language well enough?

And there's a very specific reason why they do that is because anyone with any sense is not going to fall for this.

So

the calculation by the people doing the Nigerian scam.

They don't need to speak perfect English.

Right.

Well, and more than that, they actually intentionally will not speak perfect English.

They intentionally will spell words wrong because only a person who would think a multi-million dollar transaction is about to happen with a guy who can't spell half the email correctly, only that person who's gullible enough to think that is going to actually go through with the whole scam.

The person who is smart enough to say, I'm not going to answer this because they can't even spell the words right, that person isn't going to fall for the scam.

So they won't have wasting their time

sorting out people who are interested or are trolling them or are

just, you know,

interested enough to make that first outreach, but not interested enough to go to their bank account and give bank account numbers out.

They need the person who's gullible enough to think, well, this Nigerian prince out of nowhere emailed me unsolicited, can't speak the language, can't spell the words.

However, let me give him my bank account number.

That's the person they need because that person is the person who's going through with the whole thing.

And it's fascinating because I think a lot of that happens with these robocalls too.

They're so bad.

But if you hear someone saying you're about to get arrested by local police, or excuse me,

you're under, what was it?

Under...

Let's see.

Once it gets expired after that, you will be taken under custody.

Taken under custody.

Taken under custody.

Yeah.

Maybe those are the people that actually fall for it.

Patton Stuffer Glenn.

I'm on the Glenn Beck program, 888727B E-C-K.

Let's go to Gene in Pennsylvania.

Hey, Gene, you're on the Glenn Beck program.

Hi.

Hi.

I just wanted to make a comment about the robo calls.

I've been getting them about a year ago.

I started getting calls to that same creepy voice telling me that the licensing key on my computer was going to expire.

And of course I blew it off and they kept calling.

Well, one day I can't get on my laptop.

So I called a number and they said, your key has expired and it's going to cost $200.

to renew it.

And I said, I'm not paying $200.

What are you talking about?

And he said, pay the $200 or lose your computer.

And he hung up on me.

So I got on my iPad on Facebook and I said, hey, has anybody heard of this?

And somebody said, well, you've been hacked.

Just take the battery out.

And I did.

And my computer works fine.

Now I'm getting the calls again.

I have a landline because I don't have a cell phone signal at home.

So I'm using, so I'm on my landline.

I get a call three times within about 20 minutes.

Caller ID was my landline number

telling me that my computer key is going to expire again.

So these guys are pretty crafty, but that would have cost me $200.

Jeez.

So you just removed the battery, though, and that reset everything, and then your computer worked.

Yes, it did.

And

my friend actually told me to press a couple of keys, but I didn't need to.

He said, well,

you put the battery back in.

Just press these keys.

I didn't need to.

It came right back up.

Yeah, and nice.

If I hadn't done that, I would have, what would I have done?

On a new computer.

Yeah, right.

Probably.

And Gene, it's interesting because you're the exact person these things don't work on.

The person who's willing to actually go onto Facebook, post about it, like actually learn about it before just paying the money.

That's why they hang up on you because they probably detected you were too smart for their little scam and it's not going to work.

And you know, anyone could be a victim of these things.

I don't want to say it's just not intelligence per se, but it's it's it's not it's a lack of awareness about these types of things.

And you can get anyone could be a victim, but the second you show any pushback, there's no there's no point.

It no longer works for them anymore.

Yeah.

Some of them are pretty bold.

My daughter was having a really bad day once, and she was over at her house.

And she got one of these calls, and I heard her crying in the other room.

So I went to see what the deal was.

And it was somebody claiming to be from the IRS.

And they were threatening her with

all manner of stuff.

Like they were going to take her home from her.

And I got on and argued with the person, and she acted as though she was legitimately from the IRS and swore up and down that this was an actual official phone call.

I mean, sometimes

they'll really fight for their scam.

They're pretty bold.

And it can scare the crap out of you.

If you're not really, you know, thinking about it, you're not really paying attention, you're not really sure what they're saying to you, and

you don't really understand the circumstance.

Like if somebody else does the bills and they're telling you that you didn't pay your taxes,

you know, sometimes they can fool you.

Dave in Florida.

Hi, you're on the Glenbeck program.

On all these robocalls.

I just call them

on hold for you.

Okay.

I'm 69.

Oh, I'm 65.

And I told the guy that she called on that car thing, starter motor.

Well, I was a diesel mechanic all my life.

And I went off on her about the car being underwater.

And I'm suing you.

I'm a Pennsylvania state inspection mechanic.

And

I'm a federal inspector, and I can testify and perfect your witness program for vehicle crashes and they were almost crying.

Oh, really?

I was trying to get a new Cadillac.

I don't got a Cadillac.

But it's the one with a cloud.

If you tell her, oh, I am so glad you called.

I have been going cross country now for 15, 16 years, and I've killed 27 people.

And I wish I had somebody to talk to.

Oh, my God, that poor woman, she says, well, where are you?

I says, well, I was going to come to your house.

I think I have your address and phone number.

And

I never get called back.

They never called back i got nothing else to do man i'm bored i don't have a computer i don't do it's a little track phone and i ain't got nothing to screw around with and i ain't got nothing to cut the grass and that's it's all i got to do

all right thanks dad

yeah there's some people written uh books about it where they've gone back and forth with scammers and like like you can navigate their entire journey about they keep holding that little a little bit of a you know uh carrot out there and hoping uh that they'll they'll come and and and you figure that if you're wasting the time of a scammer at least other people aren't getting scammed while you're wasting their time.

It's a lot of time, though.

It's a big idea.

I'm not that dedicated to

I don't really care about humanity that much.

Look, if you're going to get fooled by these things, I'm not going to be able to stop it.

Mike in North Carolina, hi, you're on the Glenbeck program.

Good afternoon, good morning, I should say.

Yeah, I've been scammed about three times.

Once, they keep on calling me about my extended warranty is

going over and stuff like that.

And it's been from cars that I have let go 10 years earlier.

I says, well,

I said, yeah, I said, I hope it's almost gone because, you know, I says, I hope I don't pay for it anymore.

And then,

you know, I get another one that says, oh,

well, you know, your credit card has been compromised.

And we need this information and data so that we can restore

your credit up to where it should be.

And

so I says, well, I says, I'll tell you what, I says, I'll call my bank.

And I says, and when I get the information, I says, I'll, oh, well, your bank won't know this stuff yet because we're, you know, I says, well, I says, it's not legitimate then.

I says,

can I get my callback number so that I can call the FCC and have you arrested?

Well, immediately, hang up.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, of course.

And then

I get the IRS scam.

Yeah.

They call, they say, oh, yeah, you're

your $10,000

back taxes and stuff like that.

I says, okay.

Well, I was a tax preparer for a while.

I says, okay.

I says, what year exactly was my tax well, well, I don't have that information right here.

It just says that your $10,000.

I says, well, you have to know that if you're from the IRS.

They should at least fake the year.

Yeah.

Yeah, really, yeah.

And tell me which year so that

I can give you what I made that year and stuff because I know all this stuff.

I've got it all recorded.

Well, yeah, well, it just says here, and

we need your

information so that we can

start collecting on this debt.

I says, no, thanks.

Yeah.

Thanks, Mike.

It's interesting.

I think one of the things,

because some of these are awful, like he's talking about, where they don't even know I have any information.

But if they can get a customer list of, let's say,

your Visa card, and they can describe

what

type of card you have, you get that call and you're like, okay, well, they're saying I have

a Citibank Visa card, and I do have a Citibank Visa card.

So let me call them back and see what's up.

Biggest thing you could do whenever you get a call like that, and I do this every time, is I always make the call to the number that I know is right.

So like if I'm if Citibank calls me up and says, hey, you've got an issue here and you need to call us back, I always go to the car, my credit card and I dial that number, not the one they left on the freaking voicemail.

Or I'll go on the Citibank website or whatever and get that number.

And then you call them back and say, hey, I got this call.

Was this you guys?

Half the time they say no.

No, you don't have any problem.

There's no fraud alert.

That's another one they do is fraud alerts.

Yeah.

Which is like, hey, you've you've got a fraud alert on your card.

Call us back.

It's like, well, you're a fraud.

You know,

you're the one that does this.

I got one of those from somebody claiming to be from Citibank once, and it almost tricked me.

And then I thought, wait,

I don't even have an account at Citibank.

Hold it.

That's not even my

minor issue.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

What could they do to me?

Yeah.

I don't bank there.

I recently had an issue where I was drunkenly, apparently, parking in Miami.

Oh, wow.

Did you ever do this?

You ever go to like a hard rock stadium in Miami and park your car unknowingly?

This happens to me all the time.

Yeah.

I spent $40 on the parking, which, first of all, not a good value for parking.

No, it's not.

Number one, then you should drive just a block further and you would have gotten a better deal.

I think I could have had a better deal.

Number two, I'm a little disappointed in myself because I am not a smoker.

However, I spent $448 at a smoker's lounge

at like four in the morning, which I thought was a terrible decision by me in Miami, especially.

And I, you know, hopefully my wife's not listening to this because she would know that I apparently took a midnight trip to Miami somehow

on a night that I was with her for most of the night.

But, you know, after she went to bed, I must have just got up and flew to Miami.

I have no record of the plane ticket, which was weird.

But then the really, the big mistake I made was the $7,282 I spent on tickets to a rap festival.

Now, that's not a typical, not a typical way I would spend my money.

I'm not sure.

That was an actual thing.

Yeah, and that really happened to me just a few weeks ago.

There was a concert in Miami, I think at

one of the stadiums.

I think it was Hard Rock Stadium.

And

it was a

initially I thought it was a Rolling Stones concert, but it was actually rolling something else.

And it was like, it seemingly was a festival of rappers and R ⁇ B and such.

Not necessarily my genre.

I'm not Kamala Harris.

My three favorite genres are not hip-hop, reggae, and jazz.

So I did not

want to go.

But I was thinking $7,000 for tickets.

That seems like a lot.

It's pretty extensive.

But you know what they've done now?

Now,

I obviously did not buy any of these things.

I was not in Miami in the night in question.

However, now my credit card is holding this, you know, close to $10,000 of my credit line hostage

until they finish their fraud investigation.

Which, of course, like, I mean, I assume I'm going to win.

I really was not there.

It was pretty easy to tell.

I was buying things in another state at the same time.

But like, that's a, you know, if, if that was my only credit card and I didn't, I would get shut off.

So somebody did actually.

Yeah, someone just did actually like use the number.

Just use credit card.

I don't even understand.

Like, how do you go and buy,

like, if you have a credit card, like, steal my card off the table of a restaurant and go somewhere.

I can see people not checking the signature or not, you know, whatever.

That stuff happens all the time.

But how do you buy tickets?

How do you buy parking with just having the number memorized?

Right.

Like, if you stole the number, how do you buy parking with that?

How do you buy tickets with that?

How do you go and pay at a restaurant, a $448 smoker's lounge with just the credit card number?

Buying something online, I could see.

But going in person?

Has that been resolved yet?

I mean, it's still

quote unquote in the middle of their fraud investigation, which luckily will only take 30 to 90 days.

So I only have this giant $7,909.

Yeah.

Amazing.

That's crazy.

I mean, it really is.

Because we used to talk about this, and we've talked about this with a sponsor that we have called Home Title Lock, and it's like a new, Home Title fraud is this new sort of crime where they go after your equity, and it's a big deal.

And it's been really over the past 10 years where it's even been a thing.

And Home Title Lock does protections for this.

But

I remember reacting the same way back in the day when Life Lock came out and they were like, oh, you got to protect yourself from identity fraud.

And I remember thinking to myself, identity fraud, like that's not going to happen to me.

Like that is the most ridiculous thing.

I'm not going to bother with that.

And

this is not a paid commercial.

It's just one of those things where you just thought it wasn't going to be a big deal until now.

Where like, if you don't have one of those things now,

this stuff can happen to you constantly.

Even, you know, like you can get hit with this stuff from your credit card side.

Luckily, you're protected

from that

usually.

But some of the stuff, they can go after you and really damage your life.

They can really go after you and destroy it.

Because if this stuff happens to you, even if you get your money back, you're talking about a lot of times years.

You're talking about massive legal fees.

Sometimes it takes hundreds or thousands of dollars to wrap it up.

Yeah.

And you're talking about having to deal with like local governments, which are not always the, I mean, if you ever gone to the post office, that's a nice example of how local governments look as well.

You know, it's not easy to navigate that stuff.

It really is.

Wow.

It's one of those things where.

You were lucky you weren't taken under custody.

Oh my gosh, you're right.

Yeah.

With all those charges pressed on your name, I mean, you are really fortunate.

Pat Stuford Glenn on the Glenn Beck Program.

I've been talking about these scams, and the government may be cracking down, first of all, on online tracking that companies do to us.

And then, secondly, the FCC may allow phone companies to put a stop to these robocalls.

Let's go to Tom in Pennsylvania.

Hey, Tom, you're on the Glenn Beck program.

Hey, thanks a lot, Pat.

I wanted to let you know that my dad was a

prominent businessman his whole life.

He was a well-respected community leader, board of directors on a credit union, board of directors in a hospital, and his health was failing.

And at age 75, he gets caught in one of these things.

And we

the three kids just stood in horror and told him over and over, I said, you're getting scammed.

And before it was all over, and the only reason it was all over is because he died in the middle of it.

Oh, wow.

And

he'd sent them $12,000.

And it was that he'd won a million bucks in Jamaica at some lottery.

That he hadn't entered.

That he hadn't entered.

Yeah.

But what they did, they groomed him.

And

the people,

there was one single woman that would call him as his friend.

And I think he was so lonely that

she would call up and ask about the kids,

and called them by name, knew the church he went to,

knew the singing group he was in,

and would ask, how's the singing group doing?

And things like that.

Really sad.

You know what I'm saying?

And they scammed him for $12,000.

Over a period of about four months.

But I thought I had it cut off at the beginning.

I had no idea that he kept going.

And then

three days before he died, a woman called me that knew me from Walmart and said,

I just want to let you know that your dad was down here trying to wire Jamaica $1,200 and I wouldn't let him.

And I said, I can't tell you.

I would get in trouble.

Don't tell anybody.

I called you.

These Walmart employees, appreciate that, Tom, are getting really good at helping people on that.

I've heard that multiple times.

It's great to hear.

Because they try to get you to do the prepaid card and send it to them.

And I think the Walmart employees are kind of watching out for the elderly

and trying to help them out and say, yeah, it's probably a scam.

Might not want to do that.

This is the Glenbeck program.

Patton Stew for Glenn on the Glenbeck program.

We have more promises from more Democrat candidates.

There's what, 76 now?

I think 76 candidates for president.

700, yeah, 7,600.

7,600 candidates.

Yeah, and they're all good.

There are actually nine Democrats now that are not running for president.

Are there really that many?

Wow.

This should be down to four by the end of the week, though.

All right, we'll get into that and much more coming up in about one minute.

Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Back Program, 888, 727BECK.

And Stu back from vacation.

So you're pretty excited about

some of Elizabeth Warren's new plans.

Yeah.

I mean, here she is.

She's actually doing fairly well in the poll.

She's doing better than I would have expected her to do.

She's getting since she went away and now she's kind of had a rebirth a little bit.

Yeah.

And she's kind of positioning herself as like the policy wonk of the candidates, the person who's actually.

She's got a plan for everything.

Yeah.

Yep.

And that is legitimately what she's trying to do, which is not a terrible idea.

I mean, she's not good at ⁇ she's not a good politician.

She's not relatable.

She's not likable.

So why not write a lot of long white papers for people to read and hope that works.

And it may.

I don't know.

I mean, she's reprehensible, but she's got a plan.

Yes.

And maybe that'll work.

I don't know.

She just basically, her plan is, here's a new policy proposal in a 40-page sort of white paper that discusses why this group is evil.

Rich people, white people, men, whatever it is, that she's just basically saying every group that is not

a wonderful Native American woman like herself is the cause for all the problems in the world.

And here's how we're going to take their money and pay for other things.

So she's got it.

There's a detailed explanation of what they're saying this stuff costs in the Washington Post today.

And it's pretty interesting, and I would say

aggressively conservative on cost.

She's saying that the universal child care in pre-K

is going to cost $707 billion.

Now, it's going to cost a lot more than that, but she's saying it's $707 billion.

This one is completely ridiculous.

Universal college only costing $650 billion.

There's no way that's true.

Eliminating college debt, $640 billion.

Affordable housing for all, $500 billion.

Affordable housing for all is going to cost a hell of a lot more than $500 billion.

Opioids, another $100 billion.

Some public land stuff, $32 billion.

Debt relief for Puerto Rico is at $15 billion.

How are you going to pay for all this, though?

That's where it gets interesting because you know she's going to spend a lot of your money.

You just tax the rich.

That's all you do.

Yeah.

And you just tax the rich.

I kind of thought we were past the point in which people would even try to claim that.

Like, you know,

if you get a legitimate socialist on, on,

and you get him in the kind of the

truth hat, you put a hat on him that makes him tell the truth, they will tell you, look, of course, we're going to have to raise taxes on everybody.

Of course.

I mean, we're basically taking the entire business.

The middle class will pay.

Yes, of course we're going to pay more burden.

Of course.

Elizabeth Warren's sticking with it.

And one of the reasons she's sticking with it is she says she's going to raise $2.75 trillion

in a wealth tax.

Now, a wealth tax is 2%

on all your assets above $50 million

and 1% on assets above $1 billion.

So she's really going after the super duper high end here, which is why you can get some digital pulling on the business.

Because you can get most people in America to say, ah, that's somebody else.

I'm not going to worry about that.

I'm never going to be a billionaire.

I'm never going to have $50 million.

That's fine.

Go ahead and hit them.

It's a terrible way to react to this.

Terrible.

Terrible.

It's the same thing of, I mean, there's been poems written about this in in European nations.

First it came for the ultra-wealthy.

But, I mean, it also is just like, well, you could make this argument with everything.

Well, I'm not black.

I don't care what they do to blacks.

Like, what are you talking about?

Like, you make it fair for everybody.

Yeah.

You know, that's not, you're not supposed to make policy decisions based on, well, I am not that person.

I'm going to be affected by it, so I don't care.

And beyond not supposed to,

I think it's unconstitutional.

Yes.

And that's an interesting thing is that most likely, unless the Supreme Court grants new rights that it's never, you know, the Constitution has never held before, it is an unconstitutional tax.

And this goes back to what the...

The person once one certain group of people is unconstitutional.

Yeah, and the Constitution was very careful to not allow taxation by the federal government.

And you know that they, of course, had to pass the 16th Amendment to get the income tax to be a thing

because our founders did not want the income tax.

They would have put it in there and they thought about it.

There were a couple who were like interested in certain aspects, but they did not want an income tax.

So

this country who actually was able to get through a nice chunk of its history without

an actual income tax then put through a constitutional amendment allowing it.

However, when they debated that, they very specifically said you cannot have this type of tax, a wealth tax, where you can go in and just rip money out of.

I mean, because you think about functionally how this happens,

let's just say you own a bunch of real estate, right?

And it's valued at, you know, $100 million.

And you might think, well, I don't care what happens to that person because they have $100 million.

But stop and think about this for a moment.

That doesn't mean that you have the $100 million, right?

It's invested in properties.

So then you're at the point where you're now selling off the properties to pay the taxes, which is like you're forcing a person's hand.

You're basically controlling their financial lives.

In addition to that, it's not constitutional.

The government does not have the power to go tax your wealth.

That is is not something.

It's a very specific type of tax that is not allowed.

And, you know, going through history, people to the point of like James Madison were like, nah, you can't do that.

That's not something you're allowed to do.

Now, they could pass a constitutional amendment to allow it.

There's also some,

and I don't know where they get this idea, Pat.

There's some belief that the new Supreme Court might just interpret it another way and decide that does exist

in the Constitution, which, you know, they seem to be doing a decent amount of lately.

Right.

I mean, you're going to be surprised if John Roberts comes out and says, yeah, you can tax wealth.

I mean, no one's going to be surprised by that.

And obviously, people like Ruth Bader Ginsburg are going to be on whatever side is most close to socialism.

So the idea that she's going to be able to do this is highly questionable, shouldn't be allowed in the Constitution.

Even a lot of left-wing sources are saying, yeah, probably not.

probably not constitutional.

However,

there's a strain of thought that maybe you can kind of make it constitutional in a way.

You say, well, maybe what they meant, because the language is like around direct taxes and all sorts of terms that aren't specifically defined, but have been talked about and ruled upon many, many times to make it so you could not have a wealth tax.

So I don't know if she's going to be able to pay for that.

She also wants to raise taxes on a 7% tax on every dollar in company profit above $100 million.

So a giant new tax there.

And an estate tax.

She's going to raise $500 billion taxing the dead, which is always nice.

That is just immoral.

I know.

It really is.

It's just immoral.

Why would you assess a tax on people's wealth once they die?

That doesn't make any sense.

They've already paid all their taxes.

And so now you're going to double and triple tax what they've made and take it from them when the government has no right to their property or their money.

Absolutely not.

No right.

And that's the thing.

It's like, unless you're in Chicago, dead people don't vote.

So it's easy to tax dead people because they just don't have a lot of pushback.

You know, they've lost the ability to move.

They've lost the ability to get to the polls

in places other than Chicago where they make it all the time.

They've lost the ability to protest.

Yeah.

So you're not going to see them on a street corner.

Right.

And of course, like, even if you do protest, the family protests or whatever, you're just some evil rich person who wants to take money away from poor people and you look horrible, so people don't generally do it.

It's tough.

It's a tough stance.

And that's why you have to have people who are acting on principle and not acting on just what feels good at the moment.

I want to focus, though, for a second on the college program from Elizabeth Warren.

This is fascinating.

She says her plan will cost $1.25 trillion over 10 years.

Think about where we are.

I mean, there used to be a time where if you had a new spending proposal and a new tax increase, you would hide it.

Now, I mean, Elizabeth Warren is basically advertising it, which I think is good.

At least she's saying it, though she's advertising advertising these costs

much lower than they will be.

The Urban Institute, which is not some right-wing organization, said costs for free two- and four-year colleges would quickly spiral beyond estimates.

Because, of course, if you're thinking about going to college and you're like, eh, maybe it costs too much.

Maybe I won't be able to afford it.

Maybe I'll go to a cheaper college.

Well, if everything's free, then you start going for the best colleges only, right?

You go to the place that is most expensive.

And you know who else realizes this?

Colleges.

Because they're going to say, well, we're charging $30,000 per student a year now, but we're keeping those costs relatively low because we want to, I mean, that's not low.

But they're saying we're keeping them as low as we can because students have to be able to afford it.

Well, what happens when they don't have to afford it anymore?

When if they charge $50,000, it's going to get paid.

And if they charge $30,000, it's going to get paid by the government.

So why would I charge $30,000?

This is what happens with tuition and loan guarantees.

This is why the tuition gets so high anyway.

So when the government steps in and says, yeah, we're paying everything off,

I mean, that is just, it's going to be nonstop cash flowing to these universities.

The Warren campaign did not provide an analysis of how it estimated the cost of its free college program, which includes increasing Pell Grants and creating a $50 billion fund for historically black colleges and universities and minority-serving institutions.

I like this breakdown.

It's a lot of money.

But if it accomplishes the goal of getting more people to go to college and stay there for a longer time, it'll be more expensive.

You're waiting for them to say, well, it'll be worth it.

No, it'll be even more expensive than $1.25 trillion.

I love how the college debt thing is like this big, is a big issue now.

And one of the reasons why is a story that happened over the weekend where a billionaire was making Robert Smith.

He is a big tech investor.

And he said he would pay off all the student debt for 396

graduates at Morehouse College.

Almost $40 million.

Yeah, really cool thing, first of all, that a person would want to do that.

And it is giving

him

all the annoyances you would expect it to give him.

Because we live in America, and the fact that you come up with a great thing where you're going to pay off a bunch of kids' college is just something you get punished for.

And now this billionaire, who is the wealthiest black man in America, is getting all sorts of uncomfortable questions, and so are other billionaires.

First, you're getting the idea of, like, well, I mean, this billionaire did this.

Why aren't other billionaires doing this?

Yeah.

Right?

Then you get this.

This is a guy who,

his name is Shaquille Lampley.

He is going to this college.

And so he's, I mean, think about this.

This is an awesome moment.

You're at your graduation.

This guy's coming up.

He's giving you some speech.

You've heard these things a million times.

You're probably half falling asleep.

And then he says, oh, by the way, I'm paying off all your college debt.

Incredible.

So he says,

his debt is about $200,000 in loan, in loans taken out by his mother, covering six years in school.

He says, I am so grateful and still in shock about this gift.

And now I have so many questions about how this will be processed.

For example, are all student loans included?

You'd think, man, probably, yeah.

Does the pledge include loans taken out by the graduate's parents?

So is it just the loans that the kids take out?

Or if the parents do it, is that covered?

What about gifts from home equity loans?

If you borrow against a home equity loan, then you're just paying off someone's home equity loan.

Wow.

Does that count?

Will it benefit kids who never made it to graduation because their debt forced them to withdraw before they earned a degree?

What about last year's students?

What about last year's students?

What about next year's students?

Yes.

What about the kid that took a job, worked through college, paid off half their debt,

right?

And now, because they did the right thing for four years, the person next to them that did nothing gets more money from this billionaire than they do.

That's not fair.

People are now, they're saying, feeling a level of survivor's guilt because they're the ones being targeted here and surviving.

It's insane.

I mean, come on.

It's like the Oprah Winfrey thing.

She gives everybody in the studio a new car.

Right.

And it's like, well, what about the taxes?

Why haven't you paid their taxes?

What's that all about?

Rat-infested piles of rotting garbage have been left uncollected by the city of Los Angeles sometimes for months.

There There is no explanation, really, as to why there are rotting piles of garbage in Los Angeles.

I guess they just can't keep up with the garbage fast enough.

As far as I know, there's no garbage strike.

But it's leading to concerns about new epidemics in Los Angeles, including flea-borne typhus cases

and bubonic plague, the Black Death that swept Europe and Asia in the 1300s and killed 50 to 75 million people.

Just the 50 to 75 people.

Just the 50 to 75.

But now there's, I mean, don't worry about bubonic plague.

If you get it, what?

There's antibiotics.

Don't worry about it.

Everything will be fine.

Everything's fine.

Now, this comes from the Los Angeles Bureau of Tourism, which wants to invite you to come visit and climb one of their giant mounds of garbage today.

Exactly.

And play with the rats, because the rats are there eating the giant piles of garbage and they are carrying all these diseases.

And

they're fun to just play catch with yeah you know fetch throw sticks for them and they'll go get them and yeah you forget that this is what life is like i was in new york over the past uh week or so and uh we did the show there for many years you remember living i mean living near new york but working in new york every day and you just forget

what it's like the smell is is is a great thing living in texas you forget the smell of new york you go walk over a grate of the subway and you just remember oh my god i used to smell this every day right but like walking down the street rats just run by your feet they just run by your feet That's just part of your life.

You just run, you got rats run by your feet now.

Giant rats that if you, if one was in Texas, I mean, and they have creepy animals in Texas, but it's not like that when you're in a city environment.

And then I also had the, at the train station, had the issue where guy is passed out, of course, on the floor.

You don't even...

like recognize the guy just passed out completely on the floor, homeless guy, just sleeping in the middle of like a walkway where everyone's just walking around him and he's got his possessions strewn out around him.

And another guy comes up and bends down and starts poking through his stuff and then takes a giant bag of Sour Patch kids and just starts walking away with it.

Now, you're stealing Sour Patch kids from a homeless person.

This is your life.

Wow, that's true.

And actually gets called out by some other guy.

And I actually said something myself.

Like, you got to put that back, dude.

You can't.

Look, there's a lot of things you can deal with in life.

Someone's stealing Sour Patch kids from a homeless person really like...

Kind of not cool.

It's not cool.

And they got in this big...

As much as I like Sour Patch kids.

Yeah.

And I wouldn't take them.

And if you're going to steal something, that's probably your target, but I probably wouldn't take them from a homeless guy, right?

And so, like, then you're in this fight between this guy who's robbing a homeless person of Sour Patch kids and some other guy who's walking through the train station just pissed off about it.

And you realize that, like, this guy's just going to circle around and walk back and steal the Sour Patch kids again when you walk away.

And that's life.

Yeah.

That's just your normal everyday life in New York City.

And in Los Angeles, it's apparently getting worse.

And do you see any maybe commonality between, let's say, Los Angeles, San Francisco, where there's the poop piles to buy the hundreds of thousands, piles of poop.

And they've spent, I think it was, I just had the story, and I don't remember the exact figure.

I think it was something like $50 million just this year trying to clean up poop piles.

This is also the place where

the light post crashed down on top of someone's hood, and they later realized the reason it crashed down inexplicably because people had urinated on it so often it degraded the metal.

Oh, my.

And it actually fell over on a car.

Oh my.

That was in San Francisco?

Yeah, in San Francisco.

And then you got New York with the rats and the homeless.

And let's see, is there anything in...

Oh, that's right.

They're all Democrat-led cities for the last 60 years.

Amazing.

Does anybody else see the connection there to the policies of Democrats and how bad, what situation these cities are all in?

Which is incredible.

I mean, you see this now, every city that's run by a leftist has these problems.

We're now seeing the countries run by leftists, like Venezuela, completely collapsing around us.

And we're like, hey, we should try socialism.

Yeah.

That sounds like a great idea.

We could do it really well.

And socialism is good.

It means equality.

Yeah, it means everybody's equally poor and equally starving to death with no medical care and no jobs in Venezuela.

So, yeah, if you want that here, I guess we could try it.

I mean, I'm not shocked that a group of people would run towards socialism because it's a very human thing.

You think, oh, well, someone's going to do things for me, and then I don't have to do them, and everything will be fine.

Like, there's a lot of people who have fallen for that over the years.

But to fall for that in America, which has basically disproved this entire analysis, and secondarily,

to fall for it in America right now when all around the world.

When you have all the examples of how it fails.

Yeah.

I mean, North Korea, you know, Venezuela,

Cuba, Central America, there's a lot of different examples of this.

I mean, the people who live in socialist governments in Central America are creating a crisis on our border because they want to come here so badly.

And we're like, let's try their form of government.

It doesn't make any sense.

It's insanity.

It is.

It really is.

Pat Stu for Glenn, 888727BECK, joined by Jeffy.

of Chewin' the Fat fame.

You got a podcast called Chewin' the Fat.

I do, as a matter of fact.

You can get that

wherever free podcasts are sold or whatever.

Yes, you can.

Did I get it right?

Absolutely.

100% right.

Good.

I don't remember ever saying, uh, but

first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, I want to get into this Ben Carson situation.

Ben Carson at HUD.

The HUD director?

Yeah.

The main man?

Because he's not Surgeon General.

He's

looking up.

I'd also like you to get back to me, if you don't mind, to explain the disparity in REO rates.

Do you know what an REO is?

An Oreo.

R.

An Oreo.

Stop it for a second.

Yeah, I know what an REO is.

It's a sandwich cookie.

It's got chocolate

that sandwiches a cream filling.

Sometimes it's double stuff.

I know what an Oreo is

all the time.

Different seasons.

They have different flavors come out.

Oh, you're saying an REO.

Yes, I love their music.

They were awesome in the early 80s.

I love REO.

They were really, really good.

I can't fight that feeling is one of my favorites.

I used to call him Speedwagon, but if you want to call him REO, that's fine.

That's fine.

All right.

And what is it?

Real estate-owned?

Is that what it stands for?

Yes.

She's about to explain, I think, but I think it is.

Yeah.

All right.

Go ahead.

R.

Real Estate.

What's the O stand for?

The organization.

Okay.

Real estate owned.

That's what happens when a property goes to real estate.

So it doesn't call it an REO.

I mean, that's the, that's the, usually you don't have the balls to do that.

That's like trying to quiz the guy and then stand by it.

Because I mean, like, look, what's what the purpose is not necessarily, it's just, it's not to fix the problem.

It's just to say Ben Carson doesn't, shouldn't have this job, right?

Like I think that's what they're trying to do.

You're trying to embarrass him.

Yeah, trying to embarrass him.

Yeah.

Which is really like not, because obviously no matter what your expertise is, someone can pull out an abbreviation that's going to stump you.

Like, it doesn't matter.

Anybody could do that.

You could come to us and say, you could start talking about

situations with the transmitter towers at radio stations.

We're not going to know.

We're not going to know.

Does that matter?

No, it doesn't.

It doesn't matter.

No, it doesn't.

Who's up?

The dial-in the Fenortner.

You know what that is.

I do love Fenortner, so Fenortner, yeah.

It's at the transmission.

Fenortner, you're right there at the tower, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I know about that.

Then there's the ELO, right?

Yeah, you know what that is?

Don't you?

The O O stands for electric light

organization orchestra

orchestra.

I love it.

And then she was on MSNBC.

Katie Porter from California was on MSNBC talking about

that he doesn't even know what his federal agency does, that FHA is there to help people in foreclosure.

Like, wait.

Okay.

What?

That's a new definition of FHA to me.

I know they they give out loans

to low and moderate income people who are trying to buy a house, especially for a first-time buyer.

But are they there to help if you're not paying your mortgage?

The FHA?

They are

if you were forced to take that loan out.

Well, a predatory lender made you take out that loan from the FHA.

This is bizarre.

These Democrats that think that these government agencies are responsible for every aspect of our lives.

I don't, I mean, maybe you could show me where the FHA's mission statement is to help people in foreclosure, but I've never, I've never seen that.

And it's a larger problem in that the government has prioritized giving money to people to buy homes in the first place.

Right.

That's not their best.

The FHA shouldn't even exist.

No, especially for that purpose.

I mean, look, loans are something that you were not, it's not a present.

It's not a present from a bank to get a loan.

It's a long-term financial requirement for you to pay more money than you get.

Student loans are looked at as a present now, and so are FHA loans.

Yeah, I got the loan.

You don't really have to pay anything to get it.

Yeah.

Well, wait.

It's a loan.

Maybe you recognize the word as not gift, but loan.

What does the O stand for?

Because we just vilify renting, right?

We can make it seem like, oh, well, you haven't arrived in our society if you happen to rent where you live, which is, you know, this is a great example of

your money away because you're not throwing your money away on giant amounts of interest to banks for your loan that you bought, quote unquote, bought your home with.

That's true.

I mean, you're just paying rent for the first 10 years of buying a house anyway.

I mean, really, like, you're just like, I was looking at this the other day on my stupid mortgage.

It's like, well, if I make another 10 years of payments, I still owe like 80% of the cost of the home.

That's the thing I was looking at, too.

I can't remember for what purpose we were looking at our loan,

but

I noticed that the principal's not really going down anywhere despite the massive mortgage payments I'm making.

And it's like, how can I still own that much?

Because

you were lucky enough to get a loan.

I was lucky enough to get a loan.

I lucky enough to get a loan.

And so they're charging me about triple

what I took out in the loan.

Yeah.

It's literally double.

At least.

The fact that the government has created policies to tell people they should go out and enter into this arrangement is really questionable.

I mean, you can certainly make an argument that buying a home is great depending on what, you know, what your situation is, but the government should not be prioritizing owning over renting.

And this is a great example of what happened, you know, even with Republicans when they have good intentions and create all sorts of government policies.

Well, the ownership society, if people own their homes, they're going to care about them more and things are going to get better.

It's It's like, well, what you did was create a gigantic financial crisis because of that, because of this theory.

And the idea that you can, you know, look, I love, obviously, when it comes to tax time, everyone likes, you know, deducting their interest

off of their mortgages.

But, I mean, like, that is something that is highly questionable, and I would say completely wrong.

I love your giant on that.

There's been a there's been a years-long geod from that.

I will say, it's true.

And the interest you can deduct from your, from your home.

Because you're just saying, like, you know what?

It's the government making a giant one of the biggest things.

It helps save me every year.

It does.

And, of course, every year.

Which is why, of course, you do it.

Why do people buy homes at numbers that they shouldn't even be buying above the amount of money they should be spending on a particular loan?

Why do they do that?

Well, the government tells them, they incentivize them massively to do it.

They say, you don't have to pay your other taxes if you just take out this giant loan.

Like, that is not a good policy.

That is the trade-off.

Yeah.

It is.

Kind of.

I mean, we still pay him, but not as much.

Yeah.

But Ben Carson, you know, I mean, he does have a new suit, and he's in charge of HUD, so it's good that he's in charge of everything, right?

Because that's what that's, I mean, he was like almost like Beto going to find out about his turtle in the race.

When he went to the city,

when he dropped out of the race, yeah, when he dropped out of the race to go get a new suit, it was over.

That's right.

You remember that?

He left, I forget

where they were on the campaign trail, but he went home to get a

clothes.

Wait, is there no store in Iowa?

They don't have stores in Iowa.

I'll never forget that.

Because he's just gone after that.

Certainly not a men's warehouse in Iowa.

No, there's no air right now to get clothes.

No wonder he went home.

All right, what else do you have?

Well, I know you were talking about the big Robocall issue earlier, and people are already commenting online that they're concerned about me because they're saying that Pat has four allegations pressed upon his name.

They can't imagine how many allegations are pressed against mine.

Oh, my God.

You are correct.

You are correct, and I am not going to comment on that.

Not one single bit.

It's got to be at least 400 allegations pressed on your name.

You do not want things pressed up on your name.

No.

Congratulations to Washington State, too, becoming the first state to legalize human composting.

I'm excited about that.

I don't know about you, but I mean, we need a natural organic method of burying human remains so that you just become in the dirt.

Wow.

That's good news.

Good news.

That is good news.

Listen, you just mix your body body with a little wood chip and a little straw, and in a few weeks, you're dirt.

Good to go.

And you're financing the soil.

Yes, you are.

Great.

Yes, you are.

You have to do it.

Environmentally growing.

Environmentally friendly.

Yeah.

Well, that's Jay Inslee, by the way, the governor of the state, who is on our board of 24 candidates now running for.

You don't seem to give him much of a chance, however.

I'm a little perplexed by that.

He's got some great programs.

Where is Inslee on this board?

He's on the

probably not category.

Probably not.

Probably not, board.

Yes, that's our fourth best category to be in out of the five categories.

There's frontrunners.

There's, yeah, they got a chance.

We need to move Pete up.

Pete Buttigieg up, man.

I did move him up, actually.

He was in the eh, probably not category.

Now he's in the.

Maybe if everything goes right.

Yeah, and that's the thing with Buddhajeg is everything's gone right so far.

So no one's questioned him at all about anything.

No one said one terse word about him or any of his policies.

At some point.

No, the guy's practically perfect.

Right.

At some point, this has got to change.

He's practically perfect.

First of all, he's a a veteran of at least one tour in the Afghanistan war.

Yeah.

He belongs to a protected group.

Rhodes Scholar.

He's got a Rhodes Scholar.

He's a smart guy.

He really is well-spoken.

I think the guy

is genuinely good

at speeches.

He's a mayor of a major city.

Well,

South Benjamin.

Yes.

As major as it gets in that county.

That's true.

That's a good way of looking at it.

But he's really well-spoken.

And when you ask him questions, he's good at not answering them in a really, in a smooth way.

He's a good politician.

Yeah.

He's definitely...

People love his

partner, husband.

Yeah.

Do they?

I think they do.

I bet they probably do.

He's gotten really good press.

Yeah, he has.

He's gotten great press.

Yeah.

And he's definitely part of the protected class of we're going to give you nothing but love.

Right.

I do love to.

There's something I really adore about the idea that a guy, you know, look, South Bend in Indiana is, you know, it's not the biggest town in the world, and he's the mayor of it.

He gets to come in and he's the guy in like third place in this race, while de Blasio can't even get like a 10% approval rating from New York City.

Like he's the mayor of New York City has no chance of winning, but the mayor of South Bend is like, yeah, yeah, he could do that.

That's like great.

He could do it.

I still don't think it's going to happen.

I hope not.

I would not think even the nomination, though, I I don't think Budajej is going to be the nominee, but I mean, he has put himself in a position where you have to say he has a chance.

Far more than Betto, yeah, Betto is like done.

Betto, he's got, well, he's on the wrong side of things.

He's doing so badly now, they're not even doing

opposition research on him.

They still

like, I'm not going to

be able to do that.

That's a waste of time with that anymore.

It's a waste of money.

It is a waste of money.

It is.

I mean, Pete had his town hall on Fox and went over huge.

Beto just had one on CNN.

Did you know about it?

No, yesterday.

Well, we had a clip because he was going to ban semi-automatic weapons, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which is interesting.

That's basically every gun.

Right.

Basically, every gun.

I mean, well, weapons of war cannot be on the street.

Yeah, a semi-automatic weapon is not a weapon of war.

I mean, it is used in war, as is everything else.

Your fists and your hands are also used in war.

I mean, that's such a dumbest, like...

Weapons of war.

Like every weapon, when you're in war, you'll throw a gun, you'll throw a rock at people.

It doesn't matter.

Yeah, that's what happened.

You're trying to win.

Go watch Game of Thrones as you fight with anything you have.

Yeah.

But when it comes to

a handgun, which most people would say is like a typical gun that an emotional game is semi-automatic.

They're semi-automatic.

Many of them.

Yeah, so

that's a big thing.

And he's not making much of an impact.

Though I will say,

it does occasionally happen where candidates

have a rise and are prominent and then fall apart and come back.

I mean, McCain was, he had to fire his entire campaign staff at one point in that campaign and wound up winning in 2008.

Pat and Stew with Jeffrey for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

All right.

You got anything else for the chew in the fat file?

Absolutely.

One big one that's coming across the pond here soon that's in Europe right now.

The new viral challenge on the internet.

Kissing cows.

Kissing cows is going to be

the new viral challenge on the internet.

Yes, kissing cows.

For what reason are people kissing cows?

Just to prove that you can do it on the internet.

That's why I love the internet.

I mean, it's just a viral challenge.

Now they're calling it, they need to rename it, actually.

They call it the Ku Kus Challenge.

That's too close to the too close to the triple K challenge.

Yeah.

You can't be doing that in Europe.

It's a bad name for a challenge.

What was the purpose of this?

It's just to prove that you can do it and kiss cows and prove that you can do it in Austria.

Now, they're warning people

not to do it because the cows could attack you.

If you were to come between mom and her babies, they could attack you.

I'm looking forward to that.

What does a cow do when it attacks?

I've never seen

it to cow attacks, to be honest with you.

I want to see cow attacks.

Glenn said this on the air because he has this ranch where he is now.

And it was like they actually will come after you.

They're pretty mean.

Yeah, they're mean.

So I want to see that.

I'm awful.

If you had to chew cut all day, you probably wouldn't be very happy about it either.

No ice cream, no, you know.

It's like you say, well, can you at at least give me a burger?

And then they do.

They just make you into a burger.

And it's not a good, the way that turns out is not possible.

No, it is not.

Have you invested in your

meatless meat, your impossible foods?

I would have years ago.

Unfortunately, this is a private company.

It's tripled now, right?

I mean, now you're talking about what's going on.

They're putting meatless sausage crumbles on Little Caesar's pizzas.

I'm very excited about that.

This stuff is amazing, though.

It is amazing.

It's amazing.

And didn't you say there's a shortage again?

Yeah.

What restaurant was it that ran out of them?

Red Robin Robin carries them.

Oh, Red Robin.

That's a big chain of restaurants.

And it's gone.

They're gone for a week and a half.

They said a week and a half or two weeks, I think.

Oh, my God.

According to the source of the waitress at Red Robin.

That's a deep source, inside source.

Whether she actually understands the Impossible Foods supply chain exactly was unclear.

It sounds like she's got a good handle on it.

She's got a good grip on it, yeah.

To me, there's a real shortage of this stuff.

I like the.

I mean, people are chopping it up.

I know they're going to have a problem with calling it meat, though.

You know, they're having a big problem now that they can't call the

meat, you would think they would use it, you can't be using meat.

That's gonna be a tough thing for them, yeah.

And they're fighting, and they're saying that that's not actually true.

What's the definition, right?

Because I mean, if you have the same chemical makeup as meat, but it just wasn't from an animal, is it meat?

Oh, that's their argument, and

it's an interesting one, surely.

I mean, but it is, I will say, it tastes delicious.

That's all I could say.

Does

you're listening to Glenn Beck?