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But, but, but

this time, this time,

it might be his turn.

And a very exciting announcement and quite surprising, honestly, Joe Biden will take you to that exciting announcement in

one minute.

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Welcome.

Welcome to the program.

Very exciting day.

Draft picks.

The NFL draft pick is happening today.

You sound convincing just the way you're talking about it, Glenn.

Right?

Right?

Yes, the 2019 NFL draft is, of course, tonight.

But the real action happens on today's radio program where Glenn will personally select and do his own mock draft so you can watch it.

It's a mock draft.

You're mocking me?

No, that's not.

When you do a draft in advance of the actual draft, they call it a mock draft.

So we weren't mocking President Obama when he did his, you know,

Final Four thing.

Yeah, no one calls that a mock Final Four.

No one calls that.

No one calls it.

They call it a mock draft.

Okay.

And so you will go through, and we've given Glenn a selection of 20 players.

And given me nothing to judge them on except their picture, which I think is unfair.

Not true at all.

Yes.

Of course.

We've given you vital statistics about them.

Their height and their weight.

Yes.

And where they're from.

And where they're from.

Yeah.

Well, where they went to college.

All right.

And so.

We don't give you where they're from.

But we have a picture of them.

So you can judge by their, you can judge by their appearance.

You can judge by.

And I can tell a lot by appearance.

I mean, there's.

By the way, you could also use your knowledge.

You could use your knowledge knowledge of

a sport enjoyed by men all over the country.

Right.

I'm going to say a big negatory on that one and just keep knowledge right out of this draft.

Okay.

So that's coming up.

Hour three, Mike Lee is joining us.

Oh, I've got a lot to ask Mike Lee.

Mike Lee comes to mind more than I think anybody else during the week on this show.

Wouldn't you agree?

We always say, I don't know.

Gosh, I wish we could ask Mike Lee that.

Yeah, well, tough issues.

He, you know, he rules.

You feel like this is a guy who's going to understand the constitutional underpinning of everything.

So, like, it makes you know, sometimes these things are a little difficult, and we're not smart enough for them.

So, then we say, Can we just call Mike Lee and then he could tell us the answer?

That's right.

It's like if we could just download him and I could keep him in my pocket, you know what I mean?

Like, forget Siri.

What does Siri know?

I want a Mike Lee app.

Isn't one of the

superheroes in Endgame of the Avengers and stuff?

Isn't that Ant-Man?

Isn't he in this?

No, I mean.

There you go.

No, I have an Ant-Man-sized Mike Lee.

Oh, that's creepy and weird.

I just want a disembodied voice coming from my phone.

Oh, okay.

Telling me.

I want a virtual Mike.

I want a, you know, like a Siri app.

I think there's money to be made on this one.

I think we develop a Mike Lee constitutional app.

Hey, Mike.

How can we make this stop?

I'm sorry.

I don't understand the question.

Here's the web.

Wikipedia says about that.

Oh, stupid sight.

I hate that.

I hate that.

Anyway, so Mike's joining us here in a second.

But let's get to the big, exciting news.

Jocella.

Jocella is happening.

Woo!

Woo, woo, woo.

It is the burning man of politics.

He is, there's so much excitement around this.

He is very excited.

And he has released the video.

Joe Biden is in the race officially.

Oh, we have to move him over on our fancy board over here.

Oh, yeah.

He is in the race.

He joins as

the candidate leading in basically every poll and basically every state.

The only place he's not consistently leading is in New Hampshire.

There you have both Elizabeth Warren from next door and you have

Bernie Sanders from next door.

People who live next door to Elizabeth Warren don't like her that much, so she's not close to the top.

Yeah, they're like, we don't want her here.

We want her in Washington.

Can you just please, please, America, elect her president, so she's not here.

And Bernie is doing very well there.

But Biden, I think, is second there.

He's way ahead in South Carolina.

He's way ahead in Nevada.

He's right there.

He only has one place to go, though, down.

Yeah, I go back and forth on this.

I think he is a tougher general election candidate than a great fit for this particular primary.

So

it's going to be interesting.

I think that wing of the party, the very tiny wing, like, you know, every once in a while you get a bucket of wings and there's one like deformed wing that you can barely.

You're like, I think this is a frog leg.

Yeah.

And it does, it doesn't have, it doesn't have, it's not coated in buffalo sauce, it's coated in like fruit loops.

And you're like, what happened in the kitchen?

That's kind of the size and scope of the, of the moderate wing of the Democratic Party right now.

But if everyone were to align around him,

he'd have a chance to get through the primary.

And if, and he's certainly the favorite as of this moment.

Yeah, it really depends on whether the Democrats are going to vote like the Republicans voted last time, which was anyone but Hillary Clinton and this guy will take her out.

Right.

And that is Biden polls better against Donald Trump than every other candidate in the field

by a decent margin.

If they are A,

and I'm not sure that these are

things that we would be able to tell until the very end because people's rage on the left left is so crazy about Donald Trump that they might just say anybody but Donald Trump and this guy could win and so they won't care about his policies.

On the other hand,

we'll see how much they do believe, how the core of Democrats believe in, you know, social justice and,

you know, environmental justice.

He's going to say all the right things, but he's not going to look like the reformer.

You know, you got got to remember, we live in a world now, in a world gone mad.

We live in a world where a comedian was just elected president with no policies

in Ukraine.

Okay, that's a serious country with serious issues, and they just elected a comedian that didn't lay out any policies.

So people are just sick of politicians.

That's going to hurt Joe Biden.

But his scrappiness, his willingness to

his willingness to

be a dogfighter is going to help him.

Yeah,

he will mix it up.

He doesn't mind getting in.

He has some Trump sort of qualities,

where the left will you know, sometimes the right even will do this.

When Trump says something that's maybe not right or maybe a little offensive or whatever, there's a good portion of conservatives and Republicans that are like, you know, look, it's Donald Trump.

Like, look at his policies.

With Joe Biden gets that same treatment from the left, and unlike Donald Trump, he also gets it from the media.

So, people, when he says the dumb thing about television being invented in 1492, like, he just, ah, it's Joe.

Joe just does these things.

And it's not, look, look at the big picture here.

He's got these policies.

Hang on just a second, but he doesn't make a lot of those crazy flubs.

I mean, there's no way we have audio of him just making ridiculous statements.

Oh, no.

I don't think that's possible.

My mom lived in Long Island for 10 years or so.

God rest her soul.

And

although she's wait,

your mom's still alive.

Your dad passed.

God bless her soul.

Chuck Graham, state senators here.

Chuck, stand up, Chuck.

Let him see you.

Oh, God love you.

What am I talking about?

A man who will be the next president of the United States, Barack America.

In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans moving from India.

You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.

I'm not joking.

We got the first

sort of mainstream African American

who is articulate and bright and

clean and a nice-looking guy.

I mean, that's a storyboard.

They're going to put you all back in chains.

Yeah, so there's nothing that Joe Biden might say that's crazy from time to time, but let's listen to his announcement in one minute.

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The

tape that we've all been waiting for.

Here he is, Joe Biden.

Charlottesville, Virginia,

is home to the author of one of the great documents in human history.

Very exciting.

We know it by heart.

We do.

We hold these truths to be self-evident

that all men are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.

Okay, stop for a second.

Now, this is something we've argued with people over before, and there is a legitimate history.

There's a reason to say inalienable.

But when you are

on the screen, it says unalienable,

and

he's talking about knowing it by heart.

So he's actually, this is a produced video, obviously.

He's saying inalienable,

and on the screen it says unalienable, which is what it actually says.

But there, I mean, you can say it either way.

You can say it either way.

Historically speaking, you could say it either way.

Right.

But if you are quoting it and saying you know it by heart, you should have unalienable.

I mean, again, because

this is not from a speech.

This is not, you know, if you were just doing, you're recording this, the one time you can be perfect and not make a flub.

You know, somebody can say, cut, Joe, you got to say unalienable because that's what's going to be on the screen.

Okay, go ahead, take it.

Yeah, exactly.

And like, it's not as, it's not a huge gaffe and it's like one of those things where technically it it is unalienable.

However, I mean, you've done the history of this before, and I can't remember.

I can't remember it either.

It's the same word, inalienable, unalienable.

I can't remember, I can't remember what it is.

It's said by the founders in both ways at times,

but it's just funny because here he is saying he knows it by heart.

It's on the screen as the opposite word.

It kind of goes to the idea of, I want this job, but.

Not that much, right?

I mean, I'm not going to work that hard.

But you haven't heard the passion that's coming.

Okay, okay, all right.

Listen to the intensity and passion of Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.

We've heard it so often it's almost a cliche, but it's who we are.

We haven't always lived up to these ideals.

Jefferson himself didn't.

But we have never before walked away from them.

Charlottesville is also home to a defining moment for this nation in the last few years.

It was there on August of 2017 we saw Klansmen and white supremacists and neo-Nazis come out in the open.

I mean, let me stop for a second.

Think of the press we're giving these meaningless zilches of groups like white supremacists.

I mean, they give them so much attention as if they're controlling the entire country.

There was like 300 people at this event.

And yes, they were all horrible.

Yes, they were all saying Jews will not replace us and are complete disasters.

Remember when they tried to redo the event the next year and no one showed up?

Like, is this really?

We're launching a presidential campaign over a bunch of people that are just

in our society.

Because people now know that fear is

the currency of the day.

Everybody in Washington seems to know it.

Maybe with the exception of our guest next half hour, Michael.

Maybe.

I mean, but that's about it.

I mean,

there are not a lot of exceptions to that one at this point.

All right, go ahead.

Their crazed faces illuminated by torches, veins bulging.

That was very

good.

Stop for a second.

At no point do you actually see any veins bulging?

Now, I think I get what he's going for.

They were angry, but

there was not a noticeable vein issue with this particular event, was there?

No, I mean,

I wasn't checking all of their body parts.

If it would have been on their face or on their neck, I think I would have noticed.

Now, I know that is where Joe usually goes, though.

He's usually

really close to the neck.

That vein.

Maybe this is just the way he recognizes people.

He's always, he's either the smell of the hair.

Maybe it's not even the smell.

He's like, it's more of a,

they're not angry.

He just has to move their hair.

Oh, they're not angry.

That's what he's looking for.

There we go.

Okay.

More from Joe Biden.

Chanting the same anti-Semitic bile heard across Europe in the 30s and heard in the Democratic Party of the day.

And they were met by a craziest group of Americans.

And a violent clash ensued.

And a brave young woman lost her life.

And that's when we heard the words of the President of the United States that stunned the world and shocked the conscience of this nation.

He said there were, quote, some very fine people on both sides.

Very fine people on both sides.

But those words, the President of the United States, assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it.

And in that moment,

I knew the threat to this nation was unlike any I had ever seen in my lifetime.

Okay, stop for a second.

So this is a guy who was a senator throughout a good chunk of the Cold War,

but the threat of Donald Trump saying there was very fine people on both sides is the greatest he's ever seen.

Wow.

That's quite a thing.

He may have poor eyesight.

Yeah, I think

the answer is bad judgment.

It could be bad judgment.

Maybe bad judgment.

This is a guy.

And now, of course, he says these things all the time.

Like when he said getting Osama bin Laden was the most difficult decision in 500 years, which is, there's a lot of, there's been a lot of decisions in that time period.

Look at a half a millennia here.

A lot of people make a lot of tough calls.

Yeah.

It's not like the rest of them were easy.

You know what I mean?

But I mean, gosh, I don't know.

Maybe we should go try to find the biggest terrorist on earth that we've all been trying trying to find for, you know, a decade.

And everybody who's on the side of good and not the side of the evil Allah.

Right.

You know, everybody's like, I mean, even Muslims are like, yeah, no, we got to get him.

We got to get him.

We got to get that.

Of course, we got to get that.

Even a lot of Muslim extremists were like, yeah, he's too far from it.

They're like, oh, that was a real tough call from the White House somehow.

It's hard to imagine.

Okay.

More Joe Biden?

Yeah.

Okay.

I wrote at the time that we're in the battle for the soul of this nation.

Well, that's even more true today.

We are in the battle for the soul of this nation.

We are.

I believe history will look back on four years of this president and all he embraces as an aberrant moment in time.

But if we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation.

Stop, just a minute.

But I thought you were for a fundamental transformation of the United States of America.

It was you're actually, you actually campaigned on it, Joe.

That was right.

That was the deal.

Fundamental transformation of the United States of America.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

One thing you notice here from Joe as well, which separates him from every other candidate in the field, including Sanders, is

he's going right after Trump.

This is not a, hey, let me tell you about my wonderful vision for the future.

This is not necessarily like, let me tell you about some great policy ideas.

Let me introduce you.

Really smart.

It's going after Trump head-on.

And because that is the thing that will get him the nomination is the guy who can take on Trump.

Yep.

And that's if he picks the fight and Trump responds to Biden, then it will be, it'll be really a lock.

If Trump starts to fight him now, it'll be seen by the Democrats as, oh, he's going to take him on.

He can take him on.

He's got it.

He's got it.

And it will, it's very smart on Joe Biden, on Joe Biden's, Joe Biden's part, but whoa, what a riveting, what a riveting reason to elect Joe Biden.

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We are so excited to have the one, the only Senator Mike Lee with us.

Really, truly, Mike,

we are honored to have you.

You are a guy.

I remember the first time we spoke, you were in your car.

I think I called you, right?

Yes.

And did you know I was going to call?

I think somebody had told me I might be getting a call from you at some point.

Yeah.

And you're in Provo Canyon in Utah.

And he pulled his car to the side of the road, and we chatted for probably a half an hour.

And

I asked you some, I think, some pretty tough questions.

And,

right?

Yes.

Starting with, are you concerned with the eternal welfare of your soul?

It's an interesting way to open up a conversation.

I think his response was,

hang on, I think I need to pull over it.

But we had a great conversation,

and really it was about how convicted are you on the principles, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States?

And could you and your wife handle what you were walking into?

Is it what you

is it better, worse, or about what you expected?

About what I expected, but a little worse in some ways.

I think I

had overestimated the extent to which the American people would rally quickly against the explosive growth of government that was happening at the time

and underestimated the difficulty of changing things.

But in many respects, it's the same.

And yes, my wife, Sharon, was with me,

and we had to pull over in part because Provo Canyon has a lot of dead cell phone spots, and in part because I wanted to make sure I could pay full attention to our conversation.

There were times when I had to mute it and say, What do you think?

I don't know.

Let me ask you this.

We just did an expose on Joe Biden.

He announced that he was running today.

And

we did an expose, which comes from a couple of really good investigative reporters.

One of them is Peter Schweitzer, and the other one

is John Solomon.

And

I mean, they have this thing really locked down.

What he and his son, and John Kerry's son, they started a

fund to be able to, you know, an investment firm,

and they started it right after dad was sworn into office.

They don't have any experience.

And they went over to the Ukraine.

They were doing a deal while dad was doing a deal with Ukraine.

You know, Joe Biden is very proud that he got an investigator fired over there because of corruption.

But what people don't talk about is the fact that that investigator was investigating Joe Biden's son on the board of this very corrupt gas company in the Ukraine.

He also went over and did a $1.5 billion deal with the Bank of China.

His son did, while Joe was meeting with the top-ranking officials.

He got in, he was, they invested in a, in the main, kind of their Lockheed Martin of China, which was trying to

in fact did steal some of our stealth technology they also invested in a company uh that uh

was um a nuclear company that was nailed by the fbi while joe biden's son was part of the board uh nailed by the fbi for uh stealing our nuclear secrets it's such cronyism

Nobody is paying attention to this.

And I wondered, and Mike, maybe you can help me out on this, is that because nobody wants to bring this up because everybody's doing this?

I can't imagine that everyone's doing that.

That's a pretty big deal.

There are people who don't do $1.5 billion in deals in a whole year.

In a whole

year.

Lifetime in an eternity.

I can't imagine that that is terribly common, and I can't imagine that that's not going to become an issue with the presidential campaign.

It doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

And it's the same kind of thing that, you know, Clinton was doing these shady deals

over,

what was it, with Gazprom.

And it really never went anywhere.

And it was all, you know, circumstantial evidence.

This,

it's all documented.

And I'm sure it's all legal, but he is using the muscle of the United States of America when he was vice president.

Peter Schweitzer Schweitzer said he was the most corrupt vice president in all of American history.

Do you suppose that a Republican vice president doing such things would get away with that?

No.

Not have it reported on extensively.

And John Kerry's son.

I mean, when he was Secretary of State and Joe Biden was the vice president and they had all this power, the government of China was giving their sons $1.5 billion to invest.

That's very impressive and very stunning in its significance for a system of government.

So

I guess what I'm asking is,

you know, in some ways, if we don't turn around,

we're probably 1989

Russia, where people in your position, people in Washington, might begin to see the handwriting on the wall and say, you know what, we're not going to turn this ship.

I'm already positioning myself for what comes after.

And what comes after this is probably a really nasty oligarchy where you've got these people who are just pulling all the strings.

Is corruption so bad in Washington that nobody cares about this?

Or do they not know?

Look, I don't think that Washington is the kind of place where no one cares about this.

I suspect it has more to do with them not knowing.

I also gather that someone running for president, if he has done this, is going to have that exposed, and that's going to become a problem for him.

Are you concerned, Mike, about

the Democrats that are running?

Is there anybody?

I know you get along with Bernie Sanders,

but you don't agree with any of his policies.

Do you see anybody on the other side?

You don't even have to name a name, but do you see anybody on the other side that you think

isn't really dangerous to the Constitutional Republic?

Well, let me put it this way.

I see

every single Democratic presidential candidate seems to be moving to the left, and they're all moving in lockstep.

It's like a one-way leftward-turning ratchet.

Each time any one of them moves further to the left, they all try to outdo each other.

And it doesn't go the other way.

No, it doesn't go the other way.

And the problem is, this is not just a sort of red team versus blue team, team A A versus team B sort of a thing.

This is a different political ideology.

It's a different concept of what government is, what it's for, and what dangers it poses to the American people.

How close are we to

turning on the Constitution and Declaration and not being able to reel it back?

You know, I tend to believe, Glenn, that we're always close to that point.

I've come to believe that we have been close to that point at every moment since the American Revolution.

Freedom and constitutionally limited government, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the notion of the inherent dignity of the immortal human soul relative to a big, brooding omnipresence of a government.

These are things that are part of human nature.

And unless we make a deliberate decision that we're not going to have those things, and unless that decision is remade every day and within every generation, we will always reach that point you're describing.

We have not been to a place to where

the left, for instance, on the Second Amendment, you've got to watch about eight fronts on that.

They're going through the courts.

They're going through the banking system.

They're doing all kinds of stuff right now.

And any of them could

mean the end of the Second Amendment as we know it.

Aaron Powell, that's right.

People trying to punish others for engaging in certain types of businesses.

If you transact in firearms, for example, you might find it difficult to get along in the banking world or any other disfavored industry.

Anything deemed sufficiently unwoke runs the risk of falling victim to that kind of activity.

Did you see the AOC

questioning of the bankers, which she said to the head of Wells Fargo?

No.

Oh, my gosh.

You know what?

Let me take a break and then we're going to find that audio because you have to hear it.

Where she was basically threatening the banks, saying you're engaging in lending

money to oil companies.

We're going to start holding you responsible for any time anything goes wrong and climate change.

It's remarkable.

We'll get your thoughts on that here coming up in a second.

First, we break.

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He's with us here for probably about another 40 minutes, and then he's going to be on TV with me tonight.

Lots to talk to him about.

I want to go over this audio from Casio-Cortez and what she was saying to the Wells Fargo and other banking executives.

Listen.

Mr.

Sloan, why was the bank involved in the caging of children and financing the caging of children to begin with?

I don't know how to answer that question because we weren't.

So in finance,

you were financing and involved in debt financing of Corsican Geo Group, correct?

For a period of time we were involved in financing.

One of the firms were not anymore and the other.

I'm not familiar with the specific assertion that you're making, but we weren't directly involved in that.

Okay, so these companies run private detention facilities run by ICE, which is involved in caging children.

But I'll move on.

So she goes on to talk about oil spills and climate change, and you're lending money to oil companies, so aren't you responsible?

Shouldn't we hold you responsible for climate change damage?

Your thoughts?

Well, first of all, she's shaming someone for being the banking intermediary for someone assisting a law law enforcement agency.

Correct.

If she wants to disagree with our laws, if she wants to disagree with how they're enforced, she ought to take that up with lawmakers and

law enforcers.

I don't quite understand why it makes sense to take that up with.

So I'll tell you why.

Here it is.

He said, for a period of time, we were involved with financing one of the firms.

We're not anymore.

So here's the thing.

They were, Wells Fargo was featured November 2016 in a report, along with line other banks, of lending to Core Civic and GO Group, $444 million, blah, blah, blah.

The same period of time in which the photo of caged children misattributed to the Trump administration

was taken.

Wells Fargo and other banks decided to re-evaluate their lending activity to private prisons amid the controversy over the Trump administration's immigration policies.

So the reason why she's bringing it up is because it's working.

The public shaming.

Yes.

Public shaming of people who dare to provide financing for another company that provides outsourced law enforcement assistance.

Como.

You know that Cuomo is doing that with the banking executives in New York.

If you lend money to anybody who is a gun manufacturer or a gun store, we're going to have to send in more investigators because we think those guys are up to shady things.

So if

you want your approval every year, you want your audit to go smoothly, don't do business with them.

I suppose the good news here is that we're not dealing with the government itself forcing it.

We're dealing in some ways with

shaming by public officials through private channels and sometimes with a public stage.

I mean, isn't that the same as the brown shirts?

It wasn't the government.

It was an outside-of-the-government arm.

Yeah.

People can still arrange financing from another bank, but what happens when everyone turns against all other banks?

Correct.

Does that mean nobody will be able to enter into a contract to provide support for a law enforcement agency?

Right.

And if that happens, what does that do to our ability to enforce the law?

What does that do to President Obama's administration's ability to cage children as happened?

We are sitting here in a time where people are not abiding by the law.

We just had the district attorney here in Dallas say that he is no longer going to prosecute crimes if you break into somebody's house or their store and you steal something less than $750

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If you were just stealing it to enrich yourself, he'll prosecute.

But if you need it, he won't prosecute.

Now, that's interesting.

Hang on, hang on.

We got to take a break.

We'll get your response on that.

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Hi, Mike.

Great to be with you.

Thank you.

So you've written a new book called Our Lost Declaration, which is a really important book, I think, and everybody should have at least one copy, hard copy, to be able to keep and one to give to your kids or your grandkids.

Mike,

my understanding of the Declaration of Independence has changed so much.

It's gotten, gotten, I just love this document.

I just love it.

And I look at it as, it's our mission statement.

And everybody says, well, we haven't done those things.

Well, no, because they're really hard.

That's an aspirational thing that no one had ever said before.

And if we had accomplished all those things, it'd be time for a new mission statement.

It would.

And this mission statement remains achievable.

It remains desirable.

But we've drifted from that understanding.

Look, our children have been taught a distorted version of history, one that badly misstates the role and the mission of government and the risks associated with its abuse.

I wrote this book to help fix that, to give people the ability to help their children and their grandchildren

and themselves learn what they wish were being taught in our public schools and what used to be taught in our public schools.

This is a companion book to another one I wrote a few years ago about the the Constitution.

But the more I've researched and read into the Constitution, and it's important, the more I've come to realize you can't fully understand and appreciate and implement the Constitution without understanding the Declaration and where it came from.

It is the Declaration of Independence is the mission statement.

We want to start a country, and it's going to be this.

And this is why we have to start our own country because of these problems.

But it leads with, this is who we're going to be.

The Constitution is the owner's manual.

It's how to make that mission statement, or quite frankly, any mission statement, work.

That's right.

The Constitution is the picture frame.

The Declaration is the picture.

Correct.

It's the vision for where we want to go.

Correct.

It's also the vision for what happens when things go dangerously off course.

So can I ask you a question on the Declaration?

It says, and for these purposes, governments are instituted among men.

And what the purposes are, to protect those rights given by God.

And it is

the duty

if a government, I'm badly mangling it now, I'm sorry, but if the government goes awry and starts to go against those rights and they're not protecting those rights, it is the right and the duty of the people to alter or abolish

and

institute a new system that will better serve that purpose, right?

So

in the case of the Civil War, that was not what they were trying to do.

They were not trying to protect rights.

They said they were because they were saying state rights, but they were violating all men are created equal.

They were violating the basic human rights.

If a government becomes so horrible that it is taking away our rights and it is mangling everything that we've ever stood for.

Why doesn't a state have the right to say, no, I want to alter or abolish it, and I'm going over here because we believe for our own safety and happiness and the safety of those rights,

we can come up with a better way of doing it.

That right exists.

I would clarify one thing there.

You referred to state.

It's not the state itself.

A state is another government.

It's another layer of government.

It's ultimately the people that have it.

Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Whenever government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, to alter or abolish their form of government.

And so that recognizes this beautiful language penned by Thomas Jefferson some two and a half centuries ago, identifies the fact that these laws exist in a state of nature.

They exist out there.

They are pre-state.

They're pre-government.

They exist because we exist and because God created us.

And we are the sovereigns.

That's what was so revolutionary about this document.

And it's that thought, the idea that we have God-given rights, that government is there to serve us and not the other way around.

It's considered revolutionary today, sadly, because we've neglected it.

The idea that Jefferson was a

mentally tortured man that lived in one foot in slavery, one foot out, I don't think is entirely accurate, especially if you read the first draft.

And it was two states.

I mean, Hancock said, and I think he was right on this, look,

the king is going to divide us.

If there's any daylight between any of us 13,

he is going to use that and he's going to flip those people who have any kind of daylight.

He will worm his way in and he will have you working against us.

So we have to be in lockstep on everything.

So two states said no to Jefferson's proposal in the first draft of abolishing slavery.

That's right.

And I talk about this in our lost declaration.

In researching this, I discovered how much Jefferson really wanted to put language in it, identifying as one of the grievances against King George III that he had perpetuated slavery within the American colonies, doing so perhaps even to destabilize them and to make them dependent on that evil, vile institution.

As I researched for this book, I also discovered that Jefferson early in his career

within the state of Virginia tried to get the state of Virginia to abolish slavery.

And later in his career, too.

And later in his life.

He tried several times.

He tried several times.

Now, I acknowledge in the book,

he does have a complicated relationship with slavery because even as he's trying to do all this, he still owns slaves.

But he can't get rid of them because of state law.

He can't.

Unlike George Washington, he didn't make arrangements for them to be freed after he and his wife had died.

Uh-uh.

Not only that, he couldn't because he was in debt.

The law stated at the time, if you're in debt at the time of your death, you cannot get rid of that property.

Which is one of the great tragedies of the Jefferson estate is that because of those very same debts, after he died, his slaves were sold, and in many instances, families were separated and sent to different parts of the the country.

So, yeah, Jefferson had a complicated relationship with this, but he knew it was wrong.

And he did try to do something about it.

He even put language in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence to stop it.

And so, we have to remember that Jefferson himself understood the nature of this.

He was able to identify good from evil and identify this as part of the evil column.

Should they go back in a time machine?

Impossible question.

You're there.

Do you argue and say, guys, we cannot put this declaration together unless it includes slavery?

Do you...

I think every one of us would probably like to imagine that that is what we would say.

Slavery is so abhorrent, and we're able to see that today.

And so I think most of us would like to believe that if we were there, we would say, okay, let's rally around this.

So let me make a real-life situation.

Let's say for some reason, you know, Washington implodes and you're not there, but a lot of the representatives, you know, our government is gone.

We have to start over.

And we have to fight against an outside force.

And we've got 40 states and

10 of them will not go for, hey, a pro-life

declaration.

We are going to, all people are created equal and

endowed by their creator, and we have to protect life.

And we believe life begins at conception or whatever.

And you've got 10 states that don't do it.

It's the same kind of situation.

Would you see a reason to compromise on that principle to be able to gather a free country?

and take care of it later, you would hope?

Yes, I believe I would,

which is illustrative here, especially if we couldn't survive without those states unwilling to go along with it.

And that, I think, was quite arguably the case at the time of the revolution.

These were 13 colonies.

They understood that unless they were all united, they couldn't survive, not militarily, not economically.

And those two things were interrelated.

And you couldn't get more pro-life than you are.

That's correct.

And if you couldn't survive and cobble this country back together because you were pro-life pro-life and some states were not, you would still say, okay, well, let's work towards that.

That's exactly right.

And so this is one of the reasons I tell the story about Jefferson's attempts to get rid of slavery in this book, in our Lost Declaration.

I think it's important for us to understand the historical context in which he operated.

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So, Mike, let me just pull away from the Declaration here for just a second and talk to you a little bit about Bernie Sanders.

And

you must know Joe Biden real well as well.

Not nearly as well as I know my colleagues in the Senate.

Joe Biden and I never served in the Senate at the same time, beyond the fact that he was vice president and therefore president of the Senate when I was first sworn in.

But we never served as senators at the same time.

Okay.

They're both, that's number one and number two

running against Donald Trump.

Do you have any thoughts on those guys?

Look, as between the two, I see Bernie as having much more contact with, familiarity with the Democratic presidential election voting base

than does Biden.

I think Sanders has a leg up on him.

And if those were the two frontrunners, I suspect that it would end up being Sanders as their nominee.

Wow.

So

I talked to a former senator recently, and I don't want to give his name, but somebody that

both sides of the aisle really, really deeply respect.

And he said,

I said, what's happening with the Democrats?

And he said,

they're afraid.

He said,

anybody who has anything different to say than these revolutionaries, he said, they're not saying it, at least out loud, because they're afraid, because these guys are wielding so much power.

They carry a very big stick.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's right.

I think ideologically, taken to its logical conclusion, this is where the Democratic Party goes.

It shouldn't be altogether surprising to us when you say, I want bigger government, when you say, say I want government to take on a greater role, this is naturally where it leads.

That's why it's so dangerous.

I'm interested, Mike, to hear your thoughts, because you're working with, I think, six presidential candidates, I think, out of the Senate right now.

We know about Sanders, but I'd like to get a paragraph from you.

Maybe we can go through, because you've dealt with all of them and you know a little bit about that.

What would we expect from someone?

And where, I don't know,

how do you look at these as someone who has real inside knowledge?

We're going to be doing Glenn Beck's 2019 NFL draft here in just a little bit.

And I assume you have more knowledge than he does on that topic.

Yeah.

So

let's let's.

Which is a high standard, as I understand.

Can we start with Corey Booker?

Because here's what he seems like to the average person.

A total and complete fraud.

I mean, I am sparking.

I'm going to confirm that.

No, I know, but I'm saying that's how I look at him is just somebody will say or do anything because he wants the job.

Look, I really like the guy.

I don't agree with him on a lot of issues.

I have worked with him on things like criminal justice reform.

The first time I met Corey Booker was the day he was sworn into the Senate,

I believe it was October 31st, 2012.

And he came up and introduced himself and said, my name is Corey Booker, and I want to work with you on criminal justice reform.

We did.

He and I serve on the Judiciary Committee together.

We frequently text each other during hearings, including in especially really contentious hearings.

We'll give live-action commentary on each other's questions.

Really?

He's got a good sense of humor.

That's really cool.

This is exactly what we're looking for out of Mike Lee.

We got that real analysis.

How about Kamala Harris?

Kamala Harris is one of our newer members.

I don't know her as well as I know Corey.

She has a lot of experience in politics, came to this job after having served in high positions of authority in the California state government.

And she's someone who's

very outspoken and

seems to have a good grasp of popular culture and is gaining a lot of momentum because of that.

All right, Amy Klobuchar.

Amy Klobuchar and I work on the Antitrust Subcommittee together.

We've alternated as chair and ranking member of the antitrust subcommittee for years, depending on who's in the majority.

We frequently will have conversations about when and whether and under what circumstances to have antitrust hearings.

Sometimes we'll do the entire thing by emoji texts back and forth.

One time we decided to hold a telecom antitrust-related hearing entirely through emojis.

This is remarkable insight to the function of our government, right?

I think so.

Okay, let's go.

Elizabeth Warren.

Elizabeth Warren is a law professor, is someone who knows the law really well, is very serious and

very much a champion of sort of the populist wing of the Democratic Party.

Although these days they seem to be trying to out-populist each other, to outlift each other.

I'm trying to find these other wings.

I just keep finding this one wing when I look at it.

And it's a wing that keeps moving further in the same direction.

Yeah, it's a tighter and tighter circle that that bird is flying in.

And Kirsten Gillibrand.

Kirsten Gillibrand is very friendly, always smiling.

Always has something positive to say and

has an upbeat nature about her that I think will serve her well as a candidate.

See,

this is why everybody gets along with Mike is because, you know, he never, he doesn't say bad things about people.

Well, look, if we want to talk about policy, I can identify things about every one of them where I strongly disagree with them and why they would not be my choice to be the next president of the United States.

One that you disagree with the most, do you think?

Which one?

Which individual do I agree with or most of them?

Or disagree with?

Disagree with most.

Let's see.

As much as I love the guy, I probably disagree most fundamentally with Bernie Sanders, that he has identified himself in the past as a socialist,

which makes him somewhat unique in the South, and that

he's one of the few actually willing to identify himself as such.

I actually, I understand your respect for him because I have respect in the same way.

He at least isn't afraid to say it.

Yeah, and I took my honeymoon in the Soviet Union.

What?

What?

I mean,

he is who he says he is, and that person you can actually talk to, and because he's an honest broker.

He is.

And he's also a champion for certain constitutional issues where he and I happen to agree.

Thank you, Mike.

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the border and what's happening on the border.

There is no rational way to look at what's happening now on the border and not see this as a national emergency.

That's right.

That's exactly right.

And I say that as one who has lived on the U.S.

border for two years.

A quarter century ago, I was a missionary in the McAllen, Texas area.

I lived among people on the border, communicated every day, lived, worked among those primarily who were either immigrants or the children of immigrants.

And I can tell you that even back then, there was no group of people more directly affected by uncontrolled illegal immigration than those who were themselves recent immigrants.

But that is even more so today.

You've got these huge caravans, thousands of people coming across at once, children being trafficked for the most vile, horrible reasons imaginable,

all pouring into this country in uncontrolled

but coordinated waves.

This is a threat to our security.

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can we do?

What can we do?

One of the best things that we can do is to continue to devote efforts to the construction of some type of border barrier.

Call it a wall, call it a fence, call it anything you want.

Is there a legal way the President can get that done without Congress?

Well, the President has at his disposal several avenues for getting some of that funding.

He got some of the funding explicitly approved by Congress.

He has discretion under a couple of statutes that he has invoked to get more funding.

And I think it's good that he's establishing border barrier.

One of the reasons why I think this is important is because this tends to direct this traffic, especially of those who are trafficking in children, toward the lawful points of entry.

It's at the points of entry where you've got experts who are able to identify signs of human trafficking and spot them and stop them dead in their tracks.

Whereas if they come across

along infinite points in between lawful points of entry and then they go seek asylum, it's more difficult to detect which ones are traffickers and which ones are authentically coming through

on their own and not as part of some sort of corrupt organization.

Do you want to ask a question about the border?

Yeah, friend.

Let me switch to the Mueller report.

Thoughts on the Mueller report?

These guys spent two years looking under every stone

for information about collusion.

What did they come up with two years later?

Nothing.

Not

a single scintilla of evidence supporting collusion with the Russian government, which was what sparked this entire thing to begin with.

They concluded, moreover, that in addition to this, there was no basis upon which they could charge President Trump with criminal activity.

Now, here's the spin from the left.

The spin from the left is that,

well, no,

what they said was, we found this stuff, but the Justice Department is under his thumb, and they're not going to want to prosecute.

So I guess we leave it up to you.

Yeah, it's too cute.

Too cute by half.

It reminds me of Pinocchio in Shrek 3 when he kept using all these double negatives.

It wouldn't be entirely untruthful if I didn't say that I weren't entirely disapproving.

You know, it's too cute.

Pick a horse and ride it.

If you've got evidence, you'd prosecute.

If you don't have evidence, which they don't, they're not going to.

And so it's now dismissed as a political decision, which it ultimately is.

I think it would be a big mistake, both politically.

and

speaking more broadly,

ecumenically.

I think it would be a mistake for them to bring impeachment charges because there's not a foundation for it.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Is there a ⁇ because you hear two sides.

One, it was a witch hunt going after Donald Trump.

The other side is we found more evidence than could ever be needed for impeachment in its open and shut case.

To me, there's a midpoint there of saying it's only a witch hunt if all you cared about was Donald Trump, right?

There was an underlying activity from the Russians that is serious.

And, you know, that's the title of the report.

It's about Russian influence into our elections.

We found really detailed processes of how they did this.

We found

bank accounts and financial transactions and Bitcoin transfers and IP addresses and all these things.

So I think there was value to this investigation.

I think it was the media and largely the left that just made this into a Donald Trump attack machine, and it kind of overshadows the actual value of it.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Sure.

And I wish the investigation into the deep state itself would continue.

What do you mean by deep state?

Because that's the title of the book, too.

Self-perpetuating government agencies that act

not in a good faith effort simply to implement the laws as written, but to perpetuate the deep state, the big government itself.

In most instances, as I point out in our lost declaration, the deep state is entirely the creation and the fault of Congress.

Congress setting up this vast federal bureaucracy that has unfettered, unlimited discretion to do whatever it wants.

So instead of having a single king, we have a few thousand or tens of thousands of kings who are unelected, unaccountable, and can do whatever they want.

That's what we ought to be looking into.

And we ought to be looking into the fact that the Obama administration knew that there was an attempt by the Russian government to meddle and to delegitimize the outcome of the 2016 election, whatever that might be.

And sadly, some people within the deep state have played right into that, further trying to delegitimize the outcome of the 2016 election.

And so you would support an additional investigations going, looking back at that whole process, how this thing started?

Or

can we just,

is anybody doing anything to make sure that they're not furthering this this time?

There are investigations that are still ongoing, and I also believe that our government is looking out for what the Russians might try to do.

But again, we have to remember that any efforts that they made have never been proven to have had any impact on the outcome of this election.

Correct.

I think in some ways we've got to grapple with the fact that they've done enormous harm by trying to delegitimize the outcome of the election.

The perception itself matters, and it's a perception that's been perpetuated by many in government.

What's worse,

the attack, the initial attack on the elections by the Russians, or what they've been able to accomplish in the aftermath of really turning everyone against each other and trying to delegitimize the election?

One could argue that the latter has had more of an impact on trying to delegitimize the election.

I agree.

Mike,

when you look at all of the things that we are confronted with now, I feel like it's cakes and circuses.

I really feel like this Mueller thing and what's happening on all of it is just a giant circus that is distracting.

What is the other hand doing?

What is it that we should be talking about?

If you were king for the day and you said, I could get people to pay attention to this one thing, what would it be?

As I explained in our last declaration, if there were one thing I could do, it would probably be to get back to the foundational structure of our government and a mindset as part of our national political discourse in which we recognize that the people are sovereign, the government's not, and one in which we would stop placing so much

almost idolatrous faith in government.

If I had one legislative magic wand, it would probably be to pass something like the Reigns Act.

R-E-I-N-S stands for Regulations from the Executive in Need of Scrutiny.

This would do perhaps more to upend the deep state than any other single fix I can think of.

Is Donald Trump for it?

Yes, Donald Trump is for it.

Every Republican in the House is for it.

Every Republican in the Senate is for it.

And we've got a few Democrats who I believe would vote for it as well.

Why hasn't it been passed?

That is an excellent question, because we had a number of opportunities where we could have and should have voted on it.

The Senate has never had a single up or down vote on the Reigns Act.

I believe we should vote for it because it would put the American people back in charge.

What the Reigns Act says is that anytime there's a new executive branch regulation, one that has a significant economic impact and imposes affirmative legal burdens on the American people, that it cannot take effect until both houses of Congress vote to enact it into law.

That's how Article 1, Section 7 already contemplates the process working.

Is it retroactive at all?

The version of it on the table is not retroactive.

I have in the past introduced versions of it that would make it retroactive by putting a sunset

on pre-existing regulations, requiring all of them to filter through Congress every few years.

Trevor Burrus: That seems like a no-brainer.

Unless you are for the deep state.

Unless you are for the deep state.

Unless you like the idea of these government experts,

technocrats, bureaucrats.

And I want to make clear,

I bear them no ill will.

This is the fault of Congress.

These people are hardworking, well-intentioned for the most part.

But Congress has empowered them.

Congress has empowered them because Congress doesn't want to deal with the burdensome task of lawmaking and with the accountability that comes along with actually making the law.

And so instead, we pass platitudes.

We hereby declare that we shall have good law in Area X, and we delegate to agency or department or commission Y the power to make and enforce good law in Area X.

Members of Congress have then completely off the hook for political accountability purposes, and the deep state grows and it becomes more powerful.

And before we know it, we ourselves are not in control of the laws that govern us.

How likely is it that you can get the Reigns Act to the floor?

Is it just what's stopping it, leadership?

What's the holdup?

Those who schedule the votes in the Senate have not chosen up to this point to have a simple up or down vote.

I suspect that the reasoning, if we had those people who were making those decisions with us today, they'd probably say, say, well, we can't count to 60.

Sometimes, however, when there's something this fundamental, this essential, not only to the vision of our Constitution, but the vision embodied in our Declaration of Independence, sometimes we got to bring something to the floor, even if we're not sure we can get 60 votes to close debate.

Sometimes we've got to do everything we can to push them, make them show up, make them debate, make them filibuster that sucker night and day

and call the vote.

One last thing.

We're trying to change the Electoral College.

We're not, but the left is.

How much of a difference does the Electoral College make?

It makes all the difference.

The Electoral College is one of the few things that recognizes that we are a republic.

We are a republic consisting of a series of states that have joined together for limited purposes in a national way.

And what does that mean in real terms to the average person?

To the average person, that means that if you live in a state other than California, New York, Florida, or Texas, you will become flyer over country.

You will become completely neglected in presidential elections if we get rid of the Electoral College.

Because what sane presidential candidate would ever campaign in any state other than those four, knowing that those four have the highest populations and everybody else can just go and pounce sand.

States like mine, like Utah, but also states that are bigger than mine, that are not one of the big four states, will be completely neglected and left out of the picture.

Ohio.

Ohio, even.

Ohio.

And Michigan cities that sit by, but that's about it, right?

I mean, they're never going to go outside of Chicago if they go to Illinois, probably.

Right.

Yeah, that's right.

They would go in a few big media markets, and a few of these larger states could themselves decide the entire presidential election.

Because this is an interesting one for me, because you have six senators on the Democratic side running for president.

There might be more.

We don't know.

It could be everyone.

I think everyone in the Democratic Party might eventually be running.

And they want to overturn

the Electoral College because they say it's not representative.

Yet they're in a body called the Senate that has two senators, no matter what the population is.

Are they looking to overturn that process as well?

I mean, you'd have to be to be consistent, wouldn't you?

So far, I haven't heard any of my Senate colleagues talk about that.

But for the first time in the last couple of years, I have heard some on the left talk about the fact that this Senate is not representative, which is the whole point.

By the way, you want to know what the one type of constitutional amendment that we can't pass, the one type of constitutional amendment that is preemptively unconstitutional?

You can't alter equal representation in the Senate.

We make that something that you can't change about the Constitution.

That amendment to the Constitution would be unconstitutional.

But you're right.

The Senate was set up so that each state would be equally represented by its very nature.

That is unrepresentative.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And it's crazy.

That's why they changed this to a national election for the senators or a state election.

It wasn't even the people that were supposed to be

represented in the Senate.

It was the actual state.

So the state

had a role.

It was the people in one and their state in the other chamber.

And the progressives got rid of that.

116 years ago, the Senate changed with the

ratification of the 13th Amendment.

And it did, in fact, change the way it operated because the states were no longer represented as states in the sense that the senators were no longer chosen by the state legislatures.

We would be doing,

I think we can deal with that.

We can still survive as a constitutional republic with that change, but we can't alter or amend or jettison the Electoral College, and we can't do the same to equal representation of the states in the Senate.

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And I am prepared.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

Tonight, the 2019 NFL draft begins.

I know that.

No, I was telling the audience, just in case.

Because I know that.

I know you know it.

And I know you're going to, you're definitely.

What are your plans?

You got a watch party?

Are you kidding me?

I'm doing all the things that people who follow this do.

Really?

And that includes

all of those things.

Things that they do.

So having a watch party tonight.

That's the one I've named.

On what channel will you be watching?

ESPN.

Okay.

There you go.

See?

CJ knowledge here.

I mean, so in a moment, we're going to have

Glenn

attempt to give his own mock draft, the first 10 picks of the NFL draft.

It's not a mock draft.

That's what they call it when you do it.

I'm not mocking the draft.

Thankfully, I will have Pat Gray here along with me to help try to direct this towards some level of sanity.

And we start that in 60 seconds.

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You're not doing this.

This is the Greenbeck program.

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These are lock picks, okay?

You know, last night I was up all night just watching to see if anybody was trying to hack into my computer to get these because I know how much these are worth.

If you would have placed your money

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And if you hacked in my computer,

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So Life Lock made sure that nobody was hacking in last night to get my draft picks.

I'm not sure that Life Lock is really concerned about your particular

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From the less than frozen tundra, in fact, mostly warm and soggy tundra of Las Calinas, Texas,

Glenn Beck prognosticates the NFL draft.

We've given Glenn a selection of 20 players from the NFL draft, and he is going to try to find them.

I've already narrowed it down.

He's going pretty deep.

Yeah.

Going pretty deep.

I'll tell you who doesn't have a chief round today.

Don't have a chance to be drafted.

Don't have a chance of being drafted.

They will spend their lives in obscurity.

Now that you do, there's more picks past 10.

So you're only picking the top 10.

They could get picked at number 11, for example.

They could go play cute little football someplace.

These people are over.

Nick Bosa.

Oh, he's over.

He's over.

Done.

Dwayne Haskins.

Done.

Done.

Christian Wilkinson.

He might.

I'll explain.

He might have a chance.

Leon Farrell.

Okay.

Dunn.

Quinnen

Williams.

Dunn.

Dunnoff.

Not going to be.

Dead to me.

Byron Coward.

Uh-oh.

Coward.

Done.

Devin White.

And are we going to hear the reasoning?

There's a chance.

There's a chance.

I'm only judging by pictures, weight, and height.

That's up to you.

You could have had knowledge and watch football like every other male in America.

Josh Allen.

Dun.

Yeah.

Josh Allen's.

He's a clown.

For sure.

He's a clown.

Okay.

So you have have that.

Those are the people you've eliminated?

I've eliminated.

I've eliminated more than that, but

I've got my picks.

Okay, so should we do this?

With the first pick of the 2019 Glenn Beck NFL draft, the Arizona Cardinals select.

You're doing.

No, no, no.

That's how the.

What do you mean?

This is how the draft works.

We say that little thing over and over again.

You get all 10 of them filled in, but I fill them in differently.

So what are you doing?

Like a countdown?

No, I'm not doing a countdown.

I'm going to start with number eight.

Wait, you're starting with the eighth pick of the draft.

Yes, okay.

Detroit Lions.

Okay.

Here we go.

All right.

The problem with that is, and I know you know this,

the eighth pick of the draft could be gone if you start at eight.

Because number one could pick eight.

No, number one is not going to pick eight.

Number one is going to pick number one.

I see.

Okay.

Okay.

Number eight is Ed Oliver.

He will be going to the Lions.

Ed Oliver.

Ed Oliver.

He's 6'3 ⁇ , 290 pounds.

He's from Houston.

Now, I thought...

Why?

Well, I thought for a while, I thought for a while that he could go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because he's been playing in severe heat in Houston.

Okay.

Okay.

And

he's been playing in an open stadium, I think,

probably in Houston.

And so

probably, you're not sure.

I'm not sure.

But the team that he plays for in Houston,

they know him as a big, tough guy that can run around in sweaty and not pass out in a really hot, sweaty day.

So you're saying this is essentially a humidity pick by the Detroit Lions?

No.

No.

I'm not sending him to Tampa Bay.

I almost picked him for number five

because of the humidity thing.

But instead, he's going to number eight, the Detroit Lions.

You got to look at him.

Now look at his picture.

Okay.

He looks like somebody just hit him in the face with a shovel.

Like, what the?

Right.

He looks, he does.

He looks like, what the?

Okay, he has a surprise look on his face.

Right.

Stepped on a rake.

Boom.

What the.

That's the way he looks in this.

Now, I should note to you here, Glenn, that the thing you're looking at is a photograph, which is a moment in time of one particular moment.

That's a fraction of a second.

That's all I got to go on.

He does always look like he has a surprise look on his face.

That's all I got to go on.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

So if you want to take away his surprise reaction, then he goes to Tampa.

No, I don't.

But he's surprised.

Because he's going cold weather.

He's going to Detroit.

No.

No.

Everyone who lives in Detroit opens their door every day and goes, what the?

When they realize they're in Detroit.

So number eight, two Detroit.

Ed Oliver.

All right.

It's hard to argue with that logic.

Wow.

It is.

This is Detroit is.

Okay.

All right.

Detroit gets Ed Oliver.

Now we go to the next pick, which is not nine, as you might expect, but another pick on the.

Well, no, this one's this one.

TJ Hawkinson.

You know who he is?

We do, yes.

Okay, 6'5 ⁇ , 245 pounds.

He's going to the Seattle Supersonics, which is on another board.

Yeah.

But he's going to the Seattle Supersonics.

Because it's on a basketball board.

And also teammates don't exist anymore.

They're now the Oklahoma City Thunder, right?

Yes.

Seattle doesn't have a basketball team anymore.

No, they do not.

No, they do not.

These damn Marxists.

They do have a football team, but they're not drafting in the top 10.

So the Supersonics are over.

Yes, they're over.

They've been over for a long time.

So they're going to be

that pick is going to be surprised when he goes there and nobody's playing football or basketball.

Well, he'll win.

So

nobody will be playing against him.

All right.

6'5, 254 pounds from Wyoming.

What?

I was going to ask what team we're drafting.

What position and the top 10 are we drafting?

I'm telling you in a minute.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

First, let me introduce Carl Ganderson.

You know Carl?

Carl

Ganderson Ganderson.

6'5 from Wyoming.

254 pounds.

I'm not familiar with Carl, frankly.

Are you?

Yes, yes, I am familiar with Carl.

It's an interesting pick for which team?

I'm going to pick him for Denver, number 10.

Okay.

Okay, he's going to Denver.

And the reason why, if you look at this picture, he looks like kind of one of those go-west young men statues.

You know?

Is that because he's holding his football out in front of him?

Might be, but look at his eyes.

He's like, I'm determined.

I'm going to go someplace

where it's west.

So he is going to the Denver Broncos.

Okay, so so far we have the eighth pick in the draft is Ed Oliver, and the tenth pick is Carl Ganderson.

I wouldn't be surprised, though, if Denver was actually east of Laramie.

But that's a whole other story.

That's a whole different story.

Well, I'm just saying.

Yeah, I know.

Okay, I know.

So here we go.

Here we go.

From Alabama, 6'5, 301 pounds.

Jonah Williams.

You know, Jonah.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Jonah.

That guy looks like.

I think he's going to the Oakland Raiders.

The Oakland Raiders at number four.

Yeah, because he looks kind of pissed off.

He looks like a guy who could live in Oakland and be like, what?

I'm going to tear these people in from limb.

And

you have to, if you're going to live in Oakland, that's the way you have to look.

All right.

He looks like he's from Game of Thrones, kind of.

Yeah, he could be right in Game.

By the way, he's from California.

He's going to play for the Kings.

There you go.

Oakland Raiders select at number four, Jonah Williams.

For some reason, the Arizona Cardinals at one still have not decided to make their pick, which is a controversial move here in this draft.

Okay, I do have.

Hang on,

I've lost Mr.

Hunk a lot.

Hang on.

He is, where is he?

I've got one for San Francisco.

He's really a good-looking guy.

And here he is.

Drew Locke from Missouri.

Okay?

Yeah.

Quarterback.

He's kind of, in this picture, he kind of looks like Tom Cruise.

San Francisco.

They're going to like, they'll love him there.

They'll love him in San Francisco.

San Francisco.

Number two pick.

Wow.

Drew Locke going to San Francisco.

Drew Locke at number two.

Yes.

For San Francisco.

So we now have two,

four, eight, and ten have been selected here in the Glenbeck 2019 NFL draft.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers, number five.

Okay.

The mothership of this program.

Yes.

That's a big pick.

Yes.

People on the edge of their seats right now.

6'2, 305 pounds from Kentucky.

It's a big fella.

Bunchy Stallings.

All right.

Bunchy.

Bunchy has a good name.

It's a good name.

He's a good name.

He's from Kentucky.

He looks friendly.

He looks like a guy who'd be like, come on, Tampa's fun.

Yeah, he does.

He looks like he's having a good time in that picture.

I'll agree.

For good times, he's going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Bunchie Stallings at number five.

Okay, we still have the one, three, six, seven, and nine picks to go.

Glenn, the next election.

That's getting tough now.

It's getting tough.

Because I'm kind of down to just a bunch of people that are like, meh.

Based on their photos, they're just...

You were very excited about

Christian Wilkins.

Christian Wilkins.

Clemson.

You know him?

Clemson, yes.

Okay.

He looks like a homeless guy.

What?

Well, in that picture.

Yeah, he looks like a homeless guy in this picture.

He's got a beard and it's kind of unkempt.

And he looks like a guy who's like, hey, dude.

Hey, dude.

You got some money?

Let me wash your windshield.

I don't think that that's accurate, but he just seems to have his mouth open, and you're judging it completely.

He's going to New York.

To wash windshields?

No, he's going to play for the...

That's what he's going to play for.

He's going to play for the...

Giants and Jets.

There's two teams.

So he's selected now.

This guy goes to New York, but he doesn't know which New York team it is.

This is a good general manager you have.

All right,

I'm going to pick Jawan Taylor.

Jawan Taylor?

Okay.

From Florida.

Wait a minute.

Don't you want to

decide where Christian Wilkins is going?

They both go to three and six.

They can work it out between themselves which do they go to.

They don't get to work it out.

You have to pick them.

Yeah.

This is how this works.

I'm going to let them decide.

You can't do that.

You have to select which one is which.

Three and six.

Jawan Taylor and Christian Wilkins?

I don't know.

The Jets just seem more like New York.

The Giants seem more like a knockoff kind of girly team.

So I'm going to put Jawen for the Jets and Christian Wilkins because he looks happy but homeless.

We'll give him to the Giants.

But I say those two are interchangeable.

They could pick.

They could go to six or three.

Doesn't matter.

Yeah, again.

Maybe there will be a trade.

Maybe this is this way of Glenn signaling there will be a trade made there between the Giants and Jets, which has a good 0% chance of happening.

Okay, so we still have the seven and nine picks to go, and then the number one overall in the 2019 Glenn Beck.

Have I selected the number one, the one that everybody is like, no, he's not yet.

No, you have not.

You have not.

No.

You did discount one of the top three, though.

In fact, a couple of the top three.

Yeah, I will say the most excited team.

They're in the pile of discounted.

Most excited teams are now.

Callen Farrell.

Quinnen.

No.

Quinnen Williams is

Nick Bosip, but you're going to be able to get it.

I want to take a look at him.

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We got three more picks.

I have the number nine pick and the number one pick to go.

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Okay, I'm going to dismiss

Kyler Murray because he's 5'10 from Oklahoma.

And you're just

nobody 5'10 and 195 pounds in the NFL.

There have been people who've made this point, actually.

Actually, there are a few.

There are a few, but

there have been a few.

But, I mean, Kyler Murray.

But you've discounted him, so who's next?

Can we get the next three picks, please?

Well, I still had him in my GoPile, but I was thinking about discounting him.

Daniel Jones.

He's from Duke.

You know who Daniel Jones is?

Yes, we do.

Okay.

I'm I'm going to put him up in the Buffalo Bills because he just looks like an eater.

And he's got his tongue out and he's like, that looks delicious.

Again, Glenn.

Because in this photo, yes, his tongue out does not mean he walks around all the time with his tongue out.

He likes Buffalo, Buffalo Wings.

Okay.

They make great Buffalo Wings.

It's the home of Buffalo Wings.

I'm going to put Daniel Jones up there.

Intriguing

from Buffalo.

We still have number seven.

Do you want to do his number seven first and end up?

Number seven.

Oh, the Jaguars?

Yeah.

It's not even a team.

It actually is.

It's a team in Jacksonville.

Ah, I'm going to give it to Kyler Murray because he's a fast runner.

He's got to be a runner.

He's that small.

Now, why would Murray go number seven?

Why would Jacksonville need a runner, per se, would you think?

Because Jaguars are like cheetahs.

They're fast.

Okay, okay.

That's more like

what you're doing attached to that.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

So on the other hand, one more pick still.

Then the number one pick going to the bottom of the panel.

We still have Josh Allen, Byron Coward.

I think those two are still out.

Out.

Quinnen Williams.

He looks like a football player.

Devin White.

You've already eliminated Quinn Williams, and then we gave you too much information on that.

You did, so I hate to get rid of him.

You already had him.

You got rid of him.

That's why

we brought it up.

Okay, the number one pick.

Okay, okay.

Number one pick.

All right.

I'm this number one pick.

Didn't I get rid of Nick Bossa, right?

Yeah, she bothered him.

Whatever.

I got rid of him.

He's dead to me.

Now, Andre Dillard

and Devin White.

Now, I'm putting Cleon Farrell back in

because I have some information that he is good at something.

I bet he is.

But if you look at them, they all look happy.

They do.

Cleon does not look.

He looks like he's faking it.

Okay.

But if you look at Andre Dillard and Devin White, they look sincerely happy.

That's nice that you're judging them that way.

I like that.

But no one wants to play football in a thousand degrees.

Okay.

All right.

That's true.

It's very hot in Tampa.

And the new stadium's not quite ready.

So I'm getting rid of Andrew Dillard.

We're doing Arizona though now.

Oh, Arizona.

That's right.

Well, they took an indoor stadium.

They do have an indoor stadium.

They have an indoor stadium?

Yes.

I'm going Devin White.

He looks the happiest.

All right, Devin White.

He's like, hey, I just picked number one.

There you go.

There you go.

There it is.

So let's give you the rundown here.

Arizona Cardinals select Devin White.

San Francisco 49ers go QB with Drew Locke at two.

New York Jets Jawan Taylor at three.

Oakland Raiders.

Wait, wait, you didn't tell me that San Francisco needed a quarterback.

They don't.

They don't.

But they selected a second one for some reason.

Oh, he's a quarterback.

He's a quarterback.

He is a quarterback.

Oh, he was white.

I wanted to see if there was a chance that he was.

Do they draft for owners?

Oh, that's right.

Because Corey Booker,

I mean, I think the only white people are all.

They don't draft owners.

They don't draft owners.

They're told all the time that this is essentially slavery for these players.

So Drew Locke cannot be an owner of the San Francisco Foresters.

He can't be.

No, he cannot be.

They'll never draft him for that.

Oakland Raiders at four go Jonah Williams at five.

The Tampa Bay Bucks with an interesting selection of Bunchie Stallings at five.

At six, the Giants select Christian Wilkins.

Jacksonville Jaguars or Jawan Tyler.

You don't get your oars.

We'll give you credit if they switch, if they trade those two picks, we'll give you credit.

Jacksonville Jaguars select Kyler Murray there at number seven, which is kind of a surprise.

Yeah, that's a good

surprise.

Detroit Lions, Ed Oliver.

Yeah, I almost cut him out.

I thought Kyler, I don't think he's really a football player.

Do you think we're fooling you?

Number nine, Daniel Jones goes to the Buffalo Bills.

They've got a good quarterback situation there now, too.

And Denver Broncos select Carl Ganderson at number 10.

So here's what it kept.

Now these are locked in place.

Yeah, to lock in.

Yeah.

So interesting selections here.

San Francisco, as we mentioned, has a very highly paid quarterback.

And for them to select someone at number two that is a quarterback would be very surprising.

Let me tell you, if that happens,

whoever the quarterback is for the 49ers, better watch your back because they're off on you because you are too expensive.

Now, it is believed that Kyler Murray, the quarterback,

the one that you discounted because he's 5'10 and 190.

Will be the number one pick in the draft.

Why would you do that?

Is he a

fast runner?

He is also fast.

He's also fast.

Now, Jacksonville just signed a giant

quarterback contract with Nick Foles at seven, so it would be surprising to see them draft another quarterback there.

Kind of, yeah.

But this is information that would have been helpful.

This all would have been information that would have been helpful.

You know, if you would have told me their positions and what the teams needed, maybe I could have helped you out a little bit more.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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Okay,

I've got some other picks that are,

you know, would be surprising for the NFL, but

I think could

happen.

Could happen.

Could happen.

So there might be some surprises tonight.

Yes.

In the first round.

All right, so I'm going to send

to the Jackson Jaguars.

The Jacksonville.

You don't even know the cities of the NFL?

Jacksonville Jaguars.

That's a geography thing.

It's not an NFL knowledge thing.

Yeah, well,

you'll understand why I don't don't care.

Number seven,

Bob Frank O'Rourke.

Okay.

You're going to select him?

Yeah.

Because

he's as much of a joke and a fake as they are a team.

So

they were the AFC championship game just now.

It's a year before.

The Jacksonville Jaguars.

Who's ever heard of them?

Everyone.

Everyone who enjoys football.

Corey Booker.

Corey Booker.

Corey Booker.

Spartacus himself.

Going where?

I'm going to send him to the Jets

because it's the New York Jets and yet they live in New Jersey.

And that's kind of Corey Booker as well.

He's kind of like, I'm Spartacus, but no, he's not.

You're not even in the right country.

Okay.

There's some sense to that one, right?

Now,

the number one draft pick,

I've narrowed it down, and I'm going to send both.

Okay.

To one team?

Yeah, to the Arizona Cardinals.

Okay.

Okay.

You can't do that.

That's against the rules.

Okay, so that's against the rules.

Okay, so then I'm going to send to Tampa Bay.

I'm going to send Elizabeth Warren.

All right.

Because,

you know, that's where people go sometimes to retire.

All right.

And Bernie Sanders, because all old people eventually end up in Arizona or Florida.

So Bernie Sanders, number one pick for the Arizona Cardinals.

78-year-old Bernie Sanders going to the Arizona Cardinals tonight.

That'll be interesting.

6'6,

102 pounds.

I don't think he's 6'6 ⁇ .

No, no, but

he looks like a stork.

I'm looking over your NFL draft year, Glenn.

I think there are three of the picks that could happen.

Do you really?

And three of the picks that none of them are plausible.

None of them are realistic possibilities, but they're above

percent.

I believe there are three picks.

I didn't even get anybody on the board.

I don't think so.

I don't think you got anything.

I would say there's three.

There's got some hope here.

Well, wait a minute.

If I, let's say I pick Drew Locke at number two, if he's number three, four, or one, is that even close?

I mean, that's close, right?

Yeah.

Kind of.

Yeah.

Kind of.

I think so.

I mean, I think, though, I'm trying to pick the exact team with the exact player, which is, you know, how you do these things.

Drew Locke will not go in the top five.

No, especially he will not go to our team five.

Any of the top five in my top five, I mean, take Bunchie Stallings out because we all know.

But

any in the top five that I have in the top five,

plausible?

I would say there's one that's plausible, which would be Jonah Williams going to the Raiders at number four.

Because he's got to be, may I say, he's defensive, right?

He's not.

He's an offensive tackle.

Well, he's in the wrong, they've misplaced him, miscast him.

Because look how mean he looks.

He looks like I'm going to rip your face off.

Yeah.

Offensive tackles can be very mean very mean really mean yes yes so offensive tackles so that's he's gonna block him from tackling you're in front of the quarter you're protecting the quarterback there you go

yeah he'd be good at that

it's weird how that he came to that conclusion after he picked all the draft picks well i you told me i couldn't look anybody up online i don't watch football what am i what am i you know i just have to look at what they look like you did a great job okay i want you to think i want you to know that you did a mean job i do you mean i do you did a a wonderful job.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

I worked hard on it.

You're welcome.

Did work hard on it.

I can tell.

You can tell you spent a lot of time.

Yeah, for sure.

You can tell.

So I think that one's plausible.

I mean, Ed Oliver at eight would be a great pickup for the Detroit Lions, but possible.

Yeah.

I mean, theoretically possible.

Because sometimes they slip.

Sometimes they fall down to a spot where you wouldn't expect them to.

He belongs in Detroit.

He's projected to be a number four pick to the Raiders.

Oakland Raiders?

Well, you know, that surprised look on his face that I saw.

Maybe he was surprised that he went eight.

Or a surprise that he was like, you know, maybe I misread it.

And he was like, what?

I'm going to Oakland?

That's crazy.

Could be.

It could be.

It could be.

It's possible.

I'm excited to see this.

I will be watching very closely.

We will tweet out the picture of the Glenn Beck big board.

And a very interesting selection of Bunchie Stallings, by the way, by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Now, we looked into it if we knew who he is.

Bunchy Stalling.

Well, you have his, It says right up there, he's 6'2, 305 from Kentucky.

He's also projected to be picked 216th in

this particular Tampa.

Tampa, you get him cheap.

No, it's not.

You get him cheap.

No, it's the opposite.

It doesn't happen a lot where a six-round projection goes in the first round.

It doesn't happen a lot.

But you can't pick.

Why wouldn't you pick some of the ones that are cheaper down at the bottom?

No, you don't understand.

When you pick someone fifth, you pay them a lot.

If you pick them 216th, you pay them a little.

So you would want to pick someone later if possible.

And I think Bunchie might last a couple of years.

Well, why would you have to pay if he's expected to be at 216?

He's expecting very little money, right?

Yes.

So you go, hey, Bunchy, come to Tampa Bay.

I'm still going to pay you crap, but you're at Tampa Bay.

There's sort of a socialist price structure involved here in the way these picks go.

They're kind of slotted into certain amounts.

Oh, really?

Yes.

So anyone who gets information you didn't give me.

I didn't give you any information.

I didn't give you a payment.

And that shows.

That you have to pay a certain amount.

Basically, yeah.

There's a very small stupid rule.

It is.

There are a lot of men who don't need to be given this information at the last minute.

I don't know if you're aware of that.

And hello, Mr.

1940.

Yes.

And there are a lot of us that are metrosexual and absolutely proud of it.

That's well, I don't know if there's a lot, but there's at least you.

Did you know?

I found this out yesterday.

Uh-huh.

Do you know what the New York Mets, their real name is?

Yeah, the Metropolitans.

That's crazy.

Didn't know that.

I was on the air yesterday and I was trying to think of what

you would have loved this moment, Pat.

I was honestly trying.

What were we talking about?

We're talking about the Yankees and that the Yankees should have to fold.

And why?

Because, well, if Kate Smith...

has to no longer have a statue because she sang one song or two songs that one of which at least was a was a parody of racists but she was saying a racist song with racist lyrics many, many years ago.

Shouldn't the Yankees have to fold considering they wouldn't allow black players on the team until the 40s?

Right?

I mean, that's much worse than a couple of songs.

So we should demolish the stadium right away.

And I said that they should, they couldn't use the Yankees' name anymore.

They'd have to come up with a new name, the worst name I could think of.

And I was sitting there thinking, and I'm like, what would be just the worst possible name for a New York team?

And I thought, and I said to Stu,

they should call themselves the Metropolitans.

No way.

Yeah, I did.

And I really didn't know that that's what the Mets were George.

That's a horrible name.

It is a real name.

The Mets should change their name.

There's a sportscaster in New York who drives people crazy because he calls them the Metropolitans

every single time he mentions the Mets.

No one else on the face of this planet calls the Mets the Metropolitans.

Because

insists upon the money.

Even I know, And you've just witnessed sports lovers.

I know nothing.

Even I know that's an embarrassing name.

It is embarrassing.

That needs to go away.

Yeah, the old-timey names, like the

Red Legs, the Knickerbockers.

New York.

Knickerbockers for bad talk.

Knickerbockers is just kind of.

I don't know.

The Metropolitans seems like you're...

You know, Knickerbockers sound like something tough.

Really?

Not to me.

No, it doesn't me.

I always thought a really bad one was the Oakland Athletics.

That's just like, that's not, you're not even trying.

Yeah, they were doing athletics.

We got it.

Sounds like a gym.

Sounds like a gym you go once to.

Yeah.

Just trying to cancel your subscription for the rest of the.

And then they're like, hey, Oakland, you guys are the athletics.

That's a really dumb name.

They're like, well, we'll just call ourselves the A's.

It's like the Oakland A's.

That's just a letter.

Like, you guys are not even attempting to try here.

This is not a good effort.

You know, the Packers isn't a great name either.

Named after a meat packing packing plant?

That's not great.

That's not great either.

But you're tough.

If you're a meat packer, you're tough.

You are tough.

You're tough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have the A's thought about adding

holes to their name?

A holes?

That would work in today's culture.

It would.

It would be good.

Modern A.

I'd wear that shirt.

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Can I just tell you something?

Because I know nothing about sports at all, as it's quite apparent if you've been listening this hour.

But I'm struck by the socialist kind of structure of football.

Yeah.

I agree with you on this because basically they slot in the salaries for all these players.

So if you're crazy, you get this salary and that's it.

There's not a negotiation.

It's just part of the deal.

Second pick, same thing, because the owners were afraid that they would pay the players too much.

They kept making mistakes.

And they're like, well, we keep making mistakes.

You have to change the system.

I don't know.

Don't make mistakes.

Like, that's

a point of the league.

It is kind of a bet.

Yeah, it's a bet.

But it's interesting.

They do that.

And then they also have a salary cap.

So you cannot spend more than a certain amount on your players.

Also, though, they have a salary minimum that you cannot spend less than a certain percentage on your players as averaged over four or five years because

they don't want teams to basically go for bargain basement players and be non-competitive.

Because you're the NFL and all of these are franchises, so the franchise is controlled by the NFL, correct?

So

you can understand it because it's trying to take care of itself.

The health of, for instance, you know, the Patriots winning the Super Bowl.

Right.

Everybody.

You know what I mean?

The Yankees winning the World Series.

Oh, what a surprise.

Right.

And you kind of want, you want your team to be competitive, you know, but you, you, it, what makes a team fun to root for is sometimes it sucks, sometimes it doesn't.

And those good years that are surprises, you, you kind of don't care.

And so it hurts the health of the NFL.

Yeah.

And I you could argue it's the health.

I mean, basically what they're trying to do is manipulate the outcomes for these teams.

They're trying to say that bad teams have to get good and good teams have to get bad.

They're trying to hurt the teams at the top and, quote-unquote, help the teams at the bottom.

But

it's their own rules.

It's not outside government, and it's not trying to hurt

the good teams in New York just because that's not fair.

No, because it hurts the health of the entire all teams.

you eventually just jetted these

Jacksonville Jaguars.

How much are they going to be worth?

They're not going to be able to compete with the Giants or the Jets financially.

Correct.

And that's understandable.

And they have an interest, right, in

the Jacksonville Jaguars have an interest.

Yeah, they all have an interest in trying to have a competitive balance.

Correct.

You know, that is...

So what makes it exciting?

Yeah, that is what's...

Yeah, exactly.

You don't want your team to go 25 years without making the playoffs, right?

Right.

But I mean, as you apply the similar...

I contend, and I'm sure sports people would disagree with me.

Nor would I want my team to go 25 years winning every time.

Well, I want my team to do that, but it's not good for the league.

It's not exciting for the league.

And it wouldn't be exciting for you as a fan.

I mean, it would be exciting for me as a fan to have the Eagles.

Only because the Eagles never.

You've seen how excited it was when they won one.

I know.

So, but I mean, you, of course, root for your team to win.

However, you know, the league as a whole looks at this and says okay well We don't want the same teams to win every year and we don't want the same teams to be horrible every year So they put in what are largely socialist policies to manipulate outcomes to bring everyone to this middle right?

That's what Elizabeth Warren wants to do right with the country and you know in a way it's it's defeating merit right if the New England Patriots are good enough to beat everybody every single year In theory, you should not be stopping them.

They're just winning.

Right.

But if it's a if it's a game like I don't want to see you want it manipulated, right?

Yeah, because

it's a game.

I don't want to see the U.S.

military go against the

Delaware Cub Scouts if it's a game.

If I'm part of the U.S.

and the Cub Scouts are in rebellion, I'm glad that it's the Cub Scouts.

We could take care of it pretty quickly.

But if it's a game, I want to see my...

We don't have to use any of our planes.

We don't have to use any of the real plays because it's such an easy thing to walk all over them.

Yeah, and it can work in a game.

It doesn't work on society.

Correct.

You can't just punish people because they've done a good job and reward people for not doing a good job.

It's the free market system saying, in this one company, if you will, NFL, these are our rules.

It's fine.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.