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R Kelly Double Jeopardy? All accusations are "not true." Innocent until proven guilty, no more? Today's Documentaries are modern day witch hunts? Pat Gray's Russian women? It's time for American men to get their giblets back? President Trump is a 'father figure' to many American men? CNN's not Crazy about Joe Biden? What if the Democrats Win in 2020? Recession Avoided?, according to the World Wide GDP tracker? AOC's Mom lives in Florida to avoid taxes? Meanwhile, here daughter says NY isn't taxed enough?

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The #1 podcast in America confronts Twitter? Twitter CEO, Jack Dorsey gets confronted by journalist Tim Pool on The Joe Rogan Experience. Admits, "We Were Too Aggressive" in banning conservatives. Glenn explains the important difference between Publisher and Platform? Immediate Action pays off for OUR? Operation Underground Railroad, CEO Tim Ballard issues an emergency and TheNazareneFund.org is there to help? Why The Left Hate Tax Cuts, by Dan Crenshaw? Blaze TV is growing? Watch, Allie, Mark Levin, Steven Crowder, Matt Kibbe and Eric Bolen for Free at ThBlazeTV.com/beck

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Information Silenced with Sara Gonzales? Anti-Vaccine and the four hour erection? Silencing dissenting opinions, this is not about vaccines, this is about the First Amendment? "When did everyone become socialists?" The Heartland Institutes, Justin Haskins explains? The challenge of educating a generation about socialism? Every 4 years the world is about to End for somebody? It Looks like the Left is Losing this talking point? There is a Crisis at the Border?
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Okay,

we have another show trial.

This time we have R.

Kelly.

R.

Kelly, I've seen the charges forever.

Seems like he's a bad dude.

Person that is coming out.

Person that's coming out and defending the women or bringing the charges against R.

Kelly is Avenati,

another liar.

I mean,

boy, do we need the truth.

Do we need somebody with some credibility to stand up?

An amazing story with R.

Kelly and so much more begins in one minute.

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Stu, let me ask you, if I gave you my social security number,

what would you do with it?

I most likely would sell it on the dark web.

Right.

No, come on, seriously.

What would you do with it?

I mean, do with it?

Yeah.

I mean, do you even know how to get on the dark web?

No, of course not.

Yeah.

The only person I know is Jason, your chief researcher, who says he's researching things on the dark web all the time.

Well, you're never going to show about it, though.

There seems to be

a lot of interesting internet activity.

Right.

So, I mean, I don't don't even know what to do so people are taking your social security number they're taking your name your address your banking records and they they assemble them on the dark web so they take them piece by piece yeah and then you can buy the matching pieces on the dark web then they have you and While you and I don't live in this world and we don't even think about it, there are people that are thinking about this 24-7.

Their business.

Remember, we saw that there was an ad placed for $700,000 a year.

I thought it it was

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Attorney Michael Avenatti

has tweeted a statement from the client's family.

ahead of last night's Gail King interview with R.

Kelly.

Azrielle has suffered

mental abuse, severe mental abuse at the hands of R.

Kelly for years.

R.

Kelly is a liar, manipulator, and a sociopath who must be brought to justice for his decades of sexual assault on underage girls.

All of these victims and their parents cannot be lying.

Yeah, I know, but you're such a liar.

I mean, why would you go to Michael Avenatti?

At this point, I mean, because at one point, at least half the nation thought he was the most credible man in America, right?

At least half of the country was like, Michael Avenatti is the gold standard of truth because he's saying bad things about the president.

But now, even that, that side thinks he's a scam artist.

So, I mean, now I don't know how the guy even gets a traffic ticket job.

I don't either.

I don't either.

Okay, so R.

Kelly, criminally accused of sexual misconduct in 2002, eventually tried on child pornography charges in the same case.

He was cleared on all counts in 2008.

And so he says, look, they're just digging up this stuff from the past, and this isn't true.

I didn't do this.

Here is cut one.

R.

Kelly denies.

Don't double jeopardy me.

Do you still sit here and say you have never been with underage girls?

Can you really say that?

I'll sit here and say this.

I had

two cases

back then

that I said in the beginning of the interview that I would not talk about because of of my ongoing case now.

Okay, fair enough.

But

I will tell you this.

People are going back to my past.

That's exactly what they're doing.

They're going back to the past, and they're trying to add all of this stuff now

to that

to make all of the stuff that's going on now

feels real to people.

But the past is relevant with you with underage girls.

Absolutely, no, it's not.

Why?

Because for one, I beat my case.

Yeah.

When you beat something, you quit it.

You were quit.

You can't double jeopardy me like that.

It's not fair.

It's not fair to nobody.

When you beat your case, you beat your case.

Have you ever been with underage women?

Well, I can't talk about the two times I have been with underage women, but let me tell you, no, of course not.

I love that.

That's a great, I told you before the interview started, I couldn't talk about the times that I did things that were wrong.

So then no, he didn't say that.

He said, I can't talk about that,

that case.

The two, yeah.

The two in that case.

Right.

And he's, but what he's saying is, and in a way, he has a good point.

You can't double jeopardy me.

That's not even a good sentence, let alone a good point.

But he has said,

you know, and

tell me

where this is wrong.

Okay.

You tried me for that.

I beat that case.

I won.

Yeah, but this isn't a court of law, obviously.

She's trying to get to the bottom of whether this is an ongoing issue for him.

He's saying basic, let's be honest, his translation of what he's saying is, yeah, I did that before.

Remember, he was charged with child pornography, which is, and that was, you could make a legitimate case.

There were 10 counts of

they weren't all child pornography.

That was part of it.

That was part of it.

Yeah.

Because, I mean, the big part was it was on video.

And there was never a, it was kind of one of those things where he was never drawing, trying to sell his video to child porn connoisseurs.

He just,

it was a videotape.

It was a sex tape.

Here's why.

Here's why, if I remember right, here's why he lost that case.

He won the case.

Or yeah, he won the case.

Is because the girl said, I was 14 at the time.

And two other witnesses said

that that wasn't her.

So she said that was me and I was 14.

And two other witnesses that knew the girl said, no, that's not her or she wasn't 14 at the time.

It was a, they couldn't prove that

that was her and that was her age.

Right.

And the bottom line is he can't, you can't throw him back in prison for that.

And just saying that he did something wrong a long time ago does not prove that he's doing something wrong today.

And that's, I think, his argument here.

That being said, if your past is, I've been charged with child pornography and I've had sex with underage girls multiple times.

Perhaps you never go near another female the rest of your life.

Maybe that's an answer.

That's what that's what he said.

He said, let me do cut.

No, that's not what he said.

No, no, no, no, no.

Later he did.

Let's see if it's in cut two.

Here's cut two.

But I'm not talking about the one case in which you were acquitted.

I'm talking about the other cases where women have come forward and said, R.

Kelly had sex with me when I was under the age of 18.

R.

Kelly was abusive to me emotionally and physically and verbally.

R.

Kelly took me in a black room where unspeakable things happened.

This is what they're saying about you.

These aren't old rumors.

Not true, whether they're old rumors, new rumors.

Why would they say this about you?

Not true.

Play cut three, please.

And correct me if I'm wrong, that you have never held anybody against their will.

I don't need to.

Why would I?

Well, I'm how stupid would you never held anybody?

I'm not R.

Kelly, with all I've been through in my way, way past

to hold somebody

let alone four five six fifty you said

what how stupid would I be to do that I didn't say that that's stupid guys

is this camera on me yes it's that's stupid

use your common sense don't forget the blogs forget how you feel about me hate me if you want to love me if you want but just use your common sense how stupid would it be for me to with my crazy past and what I've been through, oh, right now I just think I need to be a monster and hold girls against their will, chain them up in my basement, and don't let them eat and don't let them out unless they need some shoes down the street from their uncle.

Stop it.

Y'all quit playing.

Quit playing.

I didn't do this stuff.

This is not me.

I'm fighting for my f ⁇ ing life.

The problem here, though, is he has multiple girlfriends that he's supposedly living with.

Yes.

So he's two right now.

His point is I didn't hold them against their will, and that may very well be true.

I just feel like if I'm in the spot where I've gone through that in my life, maybe living with multiple girlfriends is not the path you go down.

Maybe you examine where you've been and where you're going a little bit, and maybe make some different choices.

It's a technicality, I know.

But as long as the two girlfriends are both of age.

There's nothing illegal about it.

I mean, you might maybe at some point be a little introspective and say, perhaps this road is not the road I should be traveling on.

Why?

It's just a different choice in today's world.

Well, again, it's just a different choice.

Yes.

You're making the argument from the left's point of view, which I don't agree with, right?

I mean, like, again, it's a tough argument because I would agree, and I think everyone would agree.

If you are in this position and this is what you've done with your life so far, and remember, this guy got a reprieve.

He was able to come.

Not only he was, yes, he was acquitted, but a lot of people get acquitted and their careers are still over.

He was able to come all the way back.

I mean,

he was a star again.

And for this to happen again is, you know, it's, it's, I'm sure, shaking his life up a little bit.

But we've seen too, too often, it would be really stupid for him to do this.

It would be.

It also would be really stupid to have sex with an intern in the Oval Office.

Right.

Like, you know, we've, we've seen this how many times.

Half the country has no memory of what you're even talking about.

How dare you even even bring that up?

No, it's okay to bring up now because she's no longer useful to the Democrats.

So now it's okay to bash Bill Clinton.

That's right.

That's right.

Okay, yeah.

It makes it okay.

Yeah, he was a dirtbag, wasn't he?

Yeah.

Now we, we, and by the way, we were with you the entire time, conservatives.

When you were concerned about character, wow, we were on your side.

We just didn't quite get to admitting it until the moment Hillary Clinton was out of our lives.

And now we are totally principled.

It's unbelievable.

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You know what I find amazing about this is we just left the Me Too Society.

We just left that.

Where a hint of any of this would have destroyed everything.

But

you were immediately guilty.

You think we've left that, period?

Strangely, with R.

Kelly and Michael Jackson, In some ways, it's not like it was a year ago.

You didn't even need to hear any evidence a year ago.

It's true.

Now you do need the documentary.

You've got to have the documentary.

You need to get on a lifetime or AE.

Now all we need is one side, but it has to be a documentary.

Or a podcast.

Podcasts can do it too.

Podcasts and documentaries are the new justice.

Yes.

That is.

And I think that I feel good about that.

Oh, my gosh.

It's totally.

It absolutely is.

If you remember, the founders said as soon as we get the technology for podcasts, go for it.

Get rid of this whole innocent till proven guilty thing.

Because right now, we don't have the cameras, we don't have the digital recording equipment.

It's the 1700s.

So, for now, innocent till proven guilty.

But if people can post things on iTunes, then guilty till proven guilty.

That is kind of, I mean, it really is.

The R.

Kelly thing is another one of these examples.

You put the same thing on Harvey Weinstein, put the same thing on Bill Cosby.

You put the same thing on

Michael Jackson, where there's this undertone of these accusations, and everyone kind of knows.

I mean, Weinstein, everyone knew at the very least, he was a jerk and a womanizer.

They might not have known all the details, but everyone kind of knew.

Everyone kind of knew Michael Jackson had been accused of these things.

Bill Cosby went through trials

about these incidents.

It wasn't until a viral clip from a comedian brought it into everybody's consciousness, and then all of a sudden now Bill Cosby's in prison for these things.

You know, R.

Kelly.

Everyone knew the R.

Kelly thing was a big story.

He had come all the way back from that story.

And now it's a documentary that was released, I believe it was early last year.

Was it on Lifetime?

It was on some, it was called Escaping R.

Kelly or something like that.

Surviving Relly.

Surviving R.

Kelly thing.

Something like that.

And it outlined not only his past stuff, but the current accusations against him.

And that became a digital phenomenon.

And everyone jumped on bandwagon and was convinced by the, you know, again, I'm sure one-sided.

I didn't see the R.

Kelly thing, but typically what happens with these things is it's a one-sided case.

It's making your case, right?

Which there's nothing wrong with a documentary making its case.

However, that's not justice.

And as much as I think, look, I don't think R.

Kelly's a good guy by any means.

And probably, again, I'm guessing, but probably is guilty.

My guess is a terrible way to run a justice system, however.

And, you know, look, if this guy is guilty of a crime, he's going to be convicted and he should be convicted.

I just don't like the idea that all these things seem to start now with a documentary or a podcast.

Or, you know, it's the same thing with like Making a Murderer or serial, right?

People who were guilty.

And then we go back and we watch a documentary and you're like, wow.

I mean,

I've watched Making a Murderer.

And you're watching it.

You're just like, gosh, this is unbelievable.

Like, how is this guy in prison?

It's the most incredible thing ever.

And then you see an interview with the prosecutor the next day.

They're like, oh, yeah, they left out these 15 pieces of evidence.

This is the main reason we convicted him.

And you're like, oh, well, that's the, this is why Law and Order is an effective show.

You watch Law and Order, and every single break, one side seems like it's insurmountably ahead.

And then the other side comes back with their little line.

And then you're like, oh my God, I totally believe them.

And then five minutes later, you're like, oh, those bastards over there.

I like these guys now.

That's why it's effective, right?

Right.

It's just a weird way to run a justice system.

I feel like perhaps we're going to go down one of these roads because you know what?

Look, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, R.

Kelly all seem pretty guilty to me.

And we're probably right on all of them, right?

There's a lot of evidence, a lot of accusers.

I mean, again, these are not reasons to convict a person.

You have to go through a trial.

But

at this point, Cosby has.

Jackson's dead.

Harvey Weinstein may eventually face that sort of justice.

But we're going to get some of these wrong if we decide to hand over authority to put people in prison to podcasters and documentarians.

Michael Moore says he's a documentarian.

He's not.

He's not.

But I mean, that's the same bias that goes into a Michael Moore documentary goes into every one of these things.

You're sitting there, you're making a case.

The HBO documentary, and you watched it, very compelling, and convinced you completely that Michael Jackson did these things.

Am I right?

I believe completely.

I believe them,

and I believe that they believe it happened.

I'm not.

Because he's dead, there's no way to ever prove it it either way.

No, I know, but I'm not asking for legal proof here.

I'm asking you after watching the documentary, gun to your head, did Michael Jackson do these things?

Yes.

Yes.

And I.

But it's not just the documentary.

It's.

It's a lot of evidence before.

A lot of evidence before.

And the guy had an amusement park.

Don't double jeopardy him.

Don't double jeopardy him.

I know.

But I mean, I think...

Again, they didn't even present the other side.

Maybe a murderer does.

Like, they will tell you the other side, but then they'll pick it apart and say, okay, this is why that side doesn't work.

At least they attempt to show you the other side.

This was literally just their unquestioned stories.

It's not a documentary, really, the way documentaries are supposed to work.

Right.

You know, I was just meeting with

the research team on a new book that we're putting together for fall.

The Cat in the Hat Part 2.

Yeah.

It's about socialism.

I'll give you the title some later date, but it's about socialism.

And I said, look, it is really important to me that there are no straw men.

That this is not, this is not just socialism bad.

I want to take all the things that people say about capitalism and socialism, and I want to show the truth.

Yes, capitalism is corrupt here, here, and here.

And socialism, you know, works here, here, and here.

And here's why.

Here's why it doesn't work.

But no straw men.

You've got to have the credibility of coming down even-handedly and not just making one point, not just making your side.

I want to turn over every stone and give it credit where credit is due and tell the truth where the truth needs to be told.

It's really bad over here.

So, like R.

Kelly could be like, Look, these age of consent laws are BS.

Come on, guys.

Who's with me?

Who's with me?

Come on, Gail.

You're on my side, aren't you?

Come on.

Come on, what?

16?

It's ridiculous.

Especially when she looks like that.

I mean, come on.

Look at the way she's dressed, Gail.

Are you with me?

Come on.

Look at that.

Come on, Gail.

I mean, come.

You look 18 when you were 16.

Come on.

Sing it with me.

I

fly.

I believe I fly.

Listen to the Saudis.

It's 12 there.

Come on, Gail.

You know you're on my side on this one.

There are several areas and districts in Thailand, but this is fine.

Come on.

I mean, let's be consistent, Gail.

You know you're with me.

I'm not saying we become the Saudis.

We don't behead people,

but 12.

We know what they're doing.

It's definitely someone we should be getting guidance from.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

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It's the number one podcast in the country, and Joe Rogan is

this guy that is just a curious kind of guy.

He's a comedian.

I think he leans left.

Wouldn't you say that's fair?

He leans left, but

it doesn't come into play at all.

He's really fair and is just willing to talk to anyone.

And last night, he had Jack Dorsey on, the Twitter CEO, and then he also had

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And Tim is

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That's at the beginning of hour number two on this program.

Pat Gray joins us now.

Pat, welcome to the program.

Thank you.

Good to be here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm very excited.

Are you?

Yes, yeah.

Because you're very excited to talk about

Russian women.

Russian women.

This is a Jeffy's.

Not the male order brides.

Right, okay.

So you're excited about Russian women.

Yes.

Well, one in particular who took care of a situation in her convenience store that needed to be handled and then went back about her business.

This is a...

If you haven't seen this video, this is unbelievable.

A fight breaks out between a couple of drunk guys and in America or Russia?

No, in Russia.

Okay.

And she's behind the counter.

She's the clerk.

And watch what she does here.

This is absolutely amazing.

We'll explain it on radio.

So one guy's pushing another against

like a vending machine or a refrigerator.

Here she comes.

Little girl.

Boom.

Oh my gosh.

Okay.

Kicks him.

And then he gets in her face.

Boom.

Down he goes.

Oh my gosh.

And then she spins and walks back behind the counter.

I'm sorry.

Did I give you your change yet?

He's still out.

He's still out.

And everybody just looks down, back down at their phone.

I mean, it's almost like America looks down at their phone.

That is a Russian woman.

Is that amazing?

That's amazing.

It's amazing because that's a good idea.

She's not a big woman either.

No, she's tiny.

And there's not even, it's not a, I was picturing an element of surprise there.

Like she

didn't see.

No, she actually hits him a couple times first.

Yeah, kicks him once.

And then he gets right up in her face, and she just gives him a straight right that cold cocks him.

You can hear him crack his head on the floor.

That's fantastic.

I love that video.

The other thing about it, though, is the men stand around.

There's, what, four men in there?

Nobody does anything.

It takes the Russian woman to go up and deal with this situation.

Kind of sad, really.

Have we been...

Probably the kind of thing that would happen in a convenience store here, with the exception of the Russian woman.

Right.

I mean, people just don't want to get involved.

And men have been digibletized.

Did they?

Yeah, no giblets.

Really?

Yeah.

De-gibletized.

Gibletized.

Gibletized.

I like that.

Okay.

Thank you for that.

Yeah, you're welcome.

So I think that's important to note.

And, you know, maybe we need to get our giblets back as men.

Certainly in America, I think we do.

But, you know, masculinity is supposed to be a bad thing now.

It's a toxic thing.

It's terrible.

And we're being told that all the time.

So.

You know,

I think this is why Donald Trump is so successful and

why he has

connected with so many people.

Think how many...

I mean, there are no examples of

men being men.

James Bond.

That's it.

A movie.

There's no male role models.

Would you agree with that?

Pretty much, yeah.

So Donald Trump, here's a guy who marries a supermodel.

Right.

Is like, yeah, I can make it with any model I want.

He's over the top, but he fights back.

He doesn't flinch.

He doesn't take any garbage from anybody.

He is the

almost cartoon.

of an alpha dog.

Yeah, he is.

You know what I mean?

And I think because we have taken alpha dogs and shot them all,

when he comes to the table, there's a lot of guys who are out there going, yeah, damn right.

That's why he was elected, isn't it?

Right.

And a lot of young guys that are looking at him almost as a father figure.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I think that's a huge part of his appeal.

It is absolutely happening.

Also, did you see CNN's little panel that Allison Camerata did?

Allison Camerata has been fully CNNized, hasn't she?

Yes, since she left Fox.

It's pretty amazing.

Anyway, she's sitting down talking to this little focus group of about six people, and she starts asking about Joe Biden.

And here's what happened there.

How many of you would like to see Joe Biden get in?

Show of hands.

What's happening, Rosal?

His time is done.

I'll be honest.

I used to think like, you know, because obviously he was riding under the Obama wave, and I thought he was the, I thought he was the person that would unite the party.

But to be honest, you know, Senator Biden really comes from the kind of the good old boy politics of the past.

I don't think Joe Biden represents that new thing that we need.

We just, we need a new economy, we need a new politics, and we need someone to something.

Yeah, they need a new economy.

And they go on to explain, they're talking about somebody more extreme.

They want somebody further left than Joe Biden.

He's not left enough for him now.

So

it looks to me like, I mean, this is only six people, but it's starting to affect the Democrat rank and file now.

This shift to the left in the Democrat Party has,

I think, affected just about all Democrats.

They're becoming the Socialist Party of America.

Well, I will tell you because there is not another idea on the right.

Where is the person on the right that says, look, We are going into a new economy, but I'm not talking about a green economy.

I'm talking about a digital economy.

Do you know that 41% of the jobs that were lost in the last year have been lost to automation and they were not in manufacturing?

Okay.

They're not going to

the car companies anymore.

Those jobs are now starting to be automated that regular people had.

So we're losing jobs.

We've got a new economy and nobody's talking about it.

We have a way to move so rapidly now, and this government cannot keep up with it.

It's time to streamline the government.

It's time to set it in place for 2018.

Congress, raise your hands here.

How many of you actually know the difference between AI, AGI, and ASI?

Maybe three?

Maybe.

Okay, how are you going to protect us?

How are you even going to protect us if you don't know what that is?

Right now, our biggest problem in our country is STEM.

We are not turning out kids that know anything about science, technology, mathematics, nothing.

They don't know it.

How are we going to compete in this new digital world with STEM?

Common core?

Common core math?

That's not the answer.

Where are the big ideas on our side?

There aren't.

Well, nobody could articulate them.

No.

Is there anybody that can articulate?

Do you have confidence in anyone's ability in, say, a position of power to articulate these things?

No.

Nobody does.

So here's the problem.

Democrats have all kinds of people articulating their theories, their ideology.

But they're not.

They've got nobody.

Right.

And they're not new.

Those are all old ideas.

They've been repackaged.

They're Karl Marx ideas.

Correct.

So they've all been repackaged, but they feel new to people.

And instinctively, people know

we can't have Joe Biden who's been in there since 1951

on

this new economy.

And they're talking about a green economy, but there is a new economy.

It is a tech economy.

I will say, though, I mean, if Joe Biden does not enter this race, he does not want to be president.

I mean, he leads in every poll.

Oh, yeah, this is a lot.

This is CNN.

Yeah, I mean, those six people may be representative of those six people and certainly more.

But, I mean, generally speaking, the Democrats, the Democratic voters seem to want Joe Biden in pretty badly.

I mean, again, like, you know, you could say that it's name recognition and then it's certainly part of it against some of these other contenders.

But, I mean, everybody knows Bernie Sanders' name by now.

If you're a Democratic primary voter, you know who Bernie Sanders is.

And Biden is beating Bernie Sanders usually in the double digits.

He's ahead of everybody in double digits, I think, including Kamala Harris.

Yep, everybody.

I think she was second in the latest poll that I saw.

It was like 30 to 20.

Yeah, certain states, you know, like Sanders does well in New Hampshire.

You know, so there's there's a few different states, you know, and you know who doesn't do well in New Hampshire, oddly, is Elizabeth Warren, who I just don't think she has any chance.

No, she's done.

She's over.

But still, like, I mean, Biden, if he does not get in, is going to open up an entire wing because

everyone else is competing for the socialist vote, essentially.

And Joe Biden is no conservative.

They make it seem like, oh, this moderate Joe Biden, he's the one who's pushed.

He pushed Obama to the left about 10 times during that presidency.

He He was the one that was blurting out the gay marriage position.

Yeah.

Right.

And do you remember?

He was one of the most, I think, top three liberal senators in the Senate.

Yeah.

So he's no conservative just compared to the socialist.

He's a libertarian window.

Oh, yeah, totally.

To the point where Joe Biden looks moderate to us.

That's a frightening place to be.

Somebody called me on my show on Pac Ray Unleashed, which happens right before this show on the Blaze Radio TV network.

And they said,

what do you and Glenn and Stew think if

a Democrat actually wins in 2020?

And

so they have the executive, they have the House, and

they'll probably get the Senate.

So they'll have a majority in Congress and they'll have the executive office.

Is there going to be any stopping their socialist policies?

And I think the answer to that is no.

No.

And I bet you one of the first things they do is get rid of this filibuster in the Senate.

Absolutely they will.

They don't care about that.

No, they don't care about it in the Senate.

They only care about it when there's a Republican majority.

That's the only time they care about it.

And they're going to say, look, Trump said he wanted it, and you guys didn't fight it then.

And they'll be right.

And they'll be right.

And so they will just use that as an excuse to move that progressive line a little bit further.

And they will pass every single thing they want to pass.

It is the most important election of all time.

The next president, the next president, is going to have to deal with a recession.

And that will be the emergency that will allow them to go.

Do you think it won't come until after 2020?

No, I think it could come before.

If it comes before, that's a bad thing.

If it hits before, there was some good news that came out of Europe

yesterday.

Everyone, I think, except

Italy was at least flat in their

growth.

And they were expected to go down, which would have meant recession all throughout Europe.

China is the only one that has bigger growth than us, but take that with a grain of rice.

Here in America, we have 2.6%

growth on our GDP.

Last year, I was just looking at the stats, it was 3.1 last year, 2018.

So we are still okay.

We're not great, but we're still okay.

And Europe did not go into an official recession, which everyone expected.

So we bought ourselves some more time, and that's good.

But if it comes before this election, it's going to be trouble for the Republicans.

And if it comes after the election and the Democrats are in, they are going to use that to absolutely change us to a new economy.

And that's there will.

That's the green economy.

Thanks so much, Pat.

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Well, finally, somebody has talked to Alexandria Casio-Cortez's mom, who lives in Florida,

because she can't afford the taxes in New York.

Because she can't afford the taxes in New York.

That's capitalism's fault right there.

Is it crazy?

Her mother moved away from New York because she can't afford the taxes.

And Ocasio-Cortez says taxes aren't high enough.

Are you surprised by it?

You seem like you're saying this in a way that you'd be surprised by it.

Of course, this is what happens.

Everybody knows this.

I mean, this is every leftist that moves out of a high-tax area and they all avoid their taxes just like anybody else because we all know that when you accomplish something and you earn money, it is not right to be giving half or more of that money to the government.

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These billionaires are paying zero taxes.

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Right.

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Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, who has been invited to be on this program multiple times and is just too darn busy to do it,

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It was an amazing conversation with him and Joe Rogan, but Joe was more like the referee because Joe had invited someone else to sit in, and that is Tim Poole.

He's a journalist that has been following all of this and he's a liberal, but he fought for conservatives unlike any journalist I have heard since maybe I was a kid.

Why?

Because the principles are the same with classic liberals as they are with conservatives, or they should be.

We go through this exchange and show you exactly what happened and what is going on and how close we are to losing real freedom of speech.

We do that as we begin the program in one minute.

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All right, so we all know that Twitter,

we've all watched Twitter be unbelievably hypocritical.

They are so fast to ban anyone on the right.

But boy, when it comes to the left, it's chance after chance after chance.

Now, that's not the way Jack

looks at it.

But Jack, along with Twitter's,

mouthpiece, was on the Joe Rogan show last night, and it is really worth listening to because Tim Poole was there.

Now, Tim is a journalist, used to be with Vice.

He has been following this for a long time.

He is a free speech absolutist, and Twitter has a problem with free speech.

And over and over in the Joe Rogan experience last night, they were talking about how

they're trying to create a place where everyone feels free and comfortable to speak.

And he said, well, that's not working.

It's not working for conservatives.

You know, your liberals might feel free to speak, but the conservatives don't feel free to speak.

And that seemed to be lost on

Jack

and his Twitter friend.

Here's a little bit between journalist Tim Poole and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey.

Listen,

so you don't think we should have any rules about abuse and harassment?

So even that the threats that you received that you under U.S.

law.

But you mentioned a number of threats that you received and you were quite frustrated that we hadn't taken action on them.

You think we shouldn't have rules that I'm frustrated because of the hypocrisy.

I see the flow of one direction.

And then what I see are Republican politicians who, in my opinion, are just too ignorant to understand what the hell is going on around them.

And I see people burning signs that say free speech.

I see you openly saying, we recognize the power of our platform and we're not going to abide by American norms.

I see the manipulation of Twitter in violation of our elections.

I see Democratic operatives in Alabama waging a false flag campaign using fake Russian accounts.

And

the guy who runs that company has not been banned from your platform.

even after it's been written by the New York Times he was doing this.

So we know that not only are people manipulating your platform, you have rules that remove honest American citizens with bad opinions who have a right to engage in public discourse, and it's like you recognize it, but you like having the power.

So

he really made some strong points when she kept going back.

So you say no rules.

He's saying, no, not no rules, American standards.

So in other words,

if you're threatening someone with harm, if you're inciting violence, yes.

But if you have an opinion, and one of the things that kept coming up was learn to code.

And learn to code was,

it became really

a flag for people to rally around of the arrogance of the elites.

When

manufacturing jobs were lost, reporters were told, reporters said, well, they should learn to code.

Well, that's not necessarily something a 50-year-old is going to be doing in the Midwest, is learning how to code.

Okay.

And it just showed how out of touch these reporters were.

Then, when the reporters started being laid off, people started saying, What's the problem?

Just learn to code.

Well, that hashtag was banned.

And he was really upset about that and the monopoly that Twitter seems to be creating here.

Here's cut two.

I understand your point about the influence, and I'm not denying that.

Certainly, Twitter is an influential platform.

But like anything, whether it's the American law or the rules of Twitter or the rules of Facebook or rules of any platform, there are rules, and those rules have to be followed.

So it is your choice whether to follow those rules and to continue to participate in a civic dialogue, or it is your choice to not do that.

Absolutely.

You've monopolized public discourse to an extreme degree and and you say my way or the highway we are facing tim we haven't monopolized it there are many different avenues for people to continue to have a voice there are many different platforms that offer that we are a largely influential one i'm not trying to take away from that and we're a very important one you don't need to be the most important it's just that you are extremely important and that's and it's a compliment twitter has become extremely powerful but at a certain point you should not have the right to control what people are allowed to say no private or look i'm a social liberal i think we should regulate you guys because you are unelected officials running your system the way you see fit against the wishes of a democratic republic.

And there are people who disagree with you who are being excised from public discourse because of your ideology.

Okay, so here's the problem.

This is where I think Tim goes off the rails a little bit.

He is for regulation.

And that's where a lot of people are going to go.

Regulation.

No, the problem with Twitter and Facebook and Google is they claim to be a platform.

You notice he said your platform is very, very

important.

You're creating a monopoly here.

Well, it is a platform.

Now, what is a platform?

A platform, think of that as your,

you know, your local

Kiwanis club stage or your local school stage.

You know, if you had some sort of a local auditorium, you could rent it out and, you know, a rock band can be there.

And the next time it could be a speech, and it welcomes everybody because it's a public auditorium.

That's a platform.

The minute

the auditorium says, no, no, no, no, no.

we're not going to take any rock bands and we don't want that lecture going on.

We're only going to take lectures like this.

Then that becomes in the digital world a publisher.

And now here's why this is important.

If you're a platform, you're open to everything, except we want to have

we want to rent it the auditorium because we're going to do a play about

pedophilia and orgies.

And it's starring eight-year-old kids and 50-year-old men.

No, no,

you're not doing that.

That's against the law.

Okay, so once you break the law, I don't have to offer my platform to you.

However,

as long as it's lawful,

I got a, I'm a platform.

I have to be open to everybody.

And this is important

because

if you are a platform, you are not held responsible for what happens on your platform.

So if something happens on stage and it's outrageous, you can't be sued for it because you're like, look, we're neutral.

We're neutral.

Did they break the law?

No, I had nothing to do with them.

A lot of this comes from copyright protection because if people are posting

full movies on, you know, Twitter obviously wouldn't be the place for that, but a social network, then theoretically, they could get sued for that because it's their site and people are posting copywritten material on their site.

However, they get a protection from that because they're just a platform.

They're not going to control everything that everybody posts.

They just have to take it down when they're aware of it.

Right.

They say, okay, look, we're a platform.

We're not judging good and evil.

We are judging illegal and legal.

And posting a movie is illegal.

It violates copyright laws.

But

they don't pass through us first.

They're posted.

So you can't hold us liable for this because people have a right to post.

Then, if we get something about it, then we can take it down if it's illegal.

The minute they start to say,

well, we didn't like that point of view,

now you're a publisher.

Now you do have an editorial committee that gets around and says, what speech do we like and not like?

The minute you do that, you lose your platform status.

Like the Blaze, I can be sued for the Blaze because we see everything that goes on, and sometimes we make mistakes, but we have to be held responsible because we are publishing something and we are putting it out.

I can't be held responsible for comments because people, that's just the comment section is just a platform.

Anybody can get on and say anything.

We monitor them, but I can't be held responsible because we're not seeing it.

You know, we're not, we're not okaying everything that comes in.

That's a huge difference.

And it's a huge legal expense if you're not a platform.

And so what happened was Twitter, YouTube, everybody else went and said, we're just a platform.

We're just a platform.

That's all we are.

So you can't have any of these lawsuits about copyrights or anything else.

We cannot be sued because we are simply a platform.

And so they got that status from the United States government.

Then they started editing.

Then they became a publisher as well.

So now they're a publisher that cannot be sued.

That's not the way it works.

Yeah, it's great work if you can get it.

I'll give you the last piece of this where

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Yes.

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You know what's amazing to me is Joe Rogan is bigger now in influence, I think, than probably Larry King was at his height.

And nobody in the mainstream media really pays attention to him at all.

And he's talking about the things that people are talking about in

a different way.

And last night, he had

Tim Poole on, who is a

liberal,

probably more a classic liberal

journalist who is more journalist than I have heard on any platform in I don't know how long.

The guy knew his stuff when he came up against Twitter and Jack Dorsey and actually got Jack Dorsey to say, okay, okay, you're probably right.

Listen.

This is one of the big problems that people have with this story,

particularly.

You have a left-wing activist who works for NBC News.

I'm not accusing you of having read the article.

He spends like a day lobbying to Twitter saying, guy, you have to do this.

You have to make these changes.

The next day he writes a story saying that 4chan is organizing these harassment campaigns and death threats.

And while 4chan was doing threads about it, you can't accuse 4chan simply for talking about it because Reddit was talking about it too, as was Twitter.

So then the next day,

after he published his article, now he's getting threats.

And then Twitter issues a statement saying, we will take action.

And to make matters worse, when John Levine, a writer for The Rap, got a statement from one of your spokespeople saying, yes, we are banning people for saying learn to code, a bunch of journalists came out and then lied, I had no idea why, saying this is not true, this is fake news.

Then a second statement was published by Twitter saying it's part of a harassment campaign.

And so then the mainstream narrative becomes, oh, they're only banning people who are part of a harassment campaign.

But you literally see legitimate, high-profile individuals getting suspensions for joining in on a joke.

Oh, there for sure probably mistakes in there.

I don't think that any of us are claiming that we got this 100% right.

And probably our team having a lack of context into actually what's happening as well.

And we would fully admit, we probably were way too aggressive when we first saw this as well and made mistakes.

So the problem is, is that in this, if you watch this, he

Jack talks about how, look, we're surrounded by liberals.

We are liberals.

We're surrounded by liberals.

We don't necessarily necessarily understand the context, but this is what we believe.

And so, yes, it will take on that kind of a tone.

Well, you have every right to do that,

but not if you're a platform.

And I don't hear anybody making that case.

This is the easiest way to solve this.

If Congress threatens to take away their platform status from Google, YouTube, from Facebook, and from Twitter.

If they say, you have to choose, you're a platform

or you're a publisher.

If they pick publisher, then they have every right to ban whoever they want for whatever reason, left or right.

But not if they're a platform with platform protected status.

It's easy.

We don't need to regulate.

Do not grow the size of government.

It won't work out well for you.

Don't grow the size of government.

Just take away their platform status.

This goes to so many of the points that we've made over the years and that you have to have a principle because the principle here, I think, is what you're talking about.

Don't grow the size of government.

Don't give government extra power over these types of things.

It's going to be damn tempting.

for conservatives to jump on the bandwagon here because they're the victims of all of this.

You're getting targeted by Twitter.

You're getting targeted by Facebook all the time.

And so the instinct for a human being is to say, hey, authority figure, government, step in and write this wrong for me.

Look how they've distorted the civil rights movement.

The civil rights movement, you could be for the civil rights movement in the 60s.

You're for the civil rights movement today, where it is the color of my skin.

It's not the content of my character.

These things change fast.

They change fast, and they never change

when it's an organized government entity.

It never leans towards freedom.

And deep down inside of every conservative, we know this, right?

Like, if we, let's say we are to pass some sort of rule that

regulates social networks that we believe it's on our behalf right now.

With 100% certitude, the government will figure out a way to make you the victim of that rule.

It will not last.

You may get a year of not getting banned or something like that.

In the long run, that rule will be expanded and that use will come to hit you more than it's going to hit the left, especially when a left government takes over.

So, you know, look, it is a really tough one to deal with, and I understand why people go that way.

We've had a lot of good, smart conservatives come in and argue for that position.

But, I mean, I think

we got to think past step one here.

And if, you know, step one is, is, it feels really bad.

You don't want to get banned.

I know that sucks.

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I want to share a letter letter that came in from Tim Ballard from the Nazarene Fund.

He said, Glenn, we had an unexpected opportunity that required immediate action.

You may recall a notice that we sent you last week about the 51 Yazidi women and children who were beheaded by their ISIS captors as British and Syrian Kurdish forces surrounded the town where 200 ISIS fighters were making a last stand.

Remember, I told you I read that letter where they were describing going into the tunnels

and they had found all these heads piled up.

This last weekend, we received word that 21 Yazidi survivors were still there, and we were asked to come in and rescue and escort them out of Syria and back to Iraq.

Currently, all 21 are under our care now at the Nazarene Fund.

We have been informed that there may be 30 or more

that we can go and get in the next few days.

We have the videos of the escort convoy as well as the reception.

We took with us a former captive herself.

I don't want to give her name.

And

she assisted us in freeing the women and children.

She was there, I guess, to make them feel comfortable that we were the good guys.

We are now looking for their families to reunify them with their families.

Additionally, there has been

they have found the mass grave where they buried the bodies of the 50 slaves.

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The latest news is that ISIS now controls about one square mile of territory, and they are using human shields.

21 of these shields we took back home this weekend.

We feel the rest are being used as human shields, and we're going in soon.

We really have an emergency.

This has come up.

And he talks about

we need a million dollars.

I get these letters from time to time.

Glenn, we really need a million dollars.

Okay, okay.

Well, where did I put that million?

That's interesting because I send letters like that all the time.

That's right.

That's right.

Hey, it's a good thing

this chic just wrote to me.

Here's what

I'm asking you.

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Otherwise, if we miss our window of opportunity, we're not going to be able to get them.

We also help deprogram them, if you will.

They are so screwed up.

After being raped, you know, by 100 different men over and over and over and over again for five years,

they're a mess.

And we have partnered with this great group

that I mean, you can't go to a psychiatrist in the Middle East.

If you're there and you're in one of these communities, you just can't go to the psychiatrist and say, hey, you know, I was sex slaved and raped over and over again.

It's just not done.

It's an old kind of culture.

So we have partnered with this great group that actually

they hire these psychiatrists who then go to the person's house in a van.

And this van is all marked up, you know.

you know, Christian knitting supply or whatever it says.

And they come into the person's house and they teach them how to knit.

And as they're teaching them how to knit, it's actually a cover to be able to have therapy with them.

It's crazy, but that's the way it is.

All of this stuff is very expensive, just going in and getting these people.

We have 30 more that we're going to have to get in the next few days.

The convoys themselves are so expensive, and we have lost two,

We've lost two of the people that went in to help save

some of these slaves.

We've lost them in operations.

It's dangerous and expensive.

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You had a show last night about ISIS and the wives.

The ISIS wives.

It was really funny.

You wouldn't think it's a topic for

comedy.

Well, I really don't have a lot of sympathy for the ISIS wives.

Really?

Yeah.

You might have got that if you watch the interview or if you go and you watch it on demand now at the Blaze TV.

But yeah, not a lot of sympathy.

No.

No, huh.

No.

You kind of broke the whole thing down.

And you have another episode on that.

coming up tonight.

Well, we have a two-part, this is part of a two-part series.

Last night we talked about the ISIS brides, but we talked really about Takia.

And tiqiyah is this term of what you can do if you're a Muslim.

If you're a Muslim, you are allowed to venerate the cross.

You're allowed to become, be baptized and take communion and do anything

as long as in your heart you are still working for Allah.

And so it's this weird thing where

Allah

deceives people.

I mean, it's in the Quran, you know, he is the ultimate deceiver, which kind of makes me think, maybe that's not

the God you should be looking towards.

But he's the ultimate

deceiver, so you too can deceive on his behalf.

So that brings us to

part two tonight about looking at the deception that looks like it may be happening.

in our own Congress with two new members of Congress.

And next week, we're going to even go further.

And Jason is here.

He's our chief researcher.

And you've been researching for the last week or so just to

introduce us to these new

hijab-wearing Muslim congresswomen.

Yeah, specifically Ilyan Omar.

And I can't, the stuff I'm finding now, I can't even believe that more people aren't talking about it.

Like, I don't know why.

Like, if we think if there's a huge case for, if you really, if you believe in like Trump collusion with Russia and that's a really big deal to you, you really believe in that, we should start investigations on it.

If you believe that, then you should be demanding an investigation in Ilian Omar.

I'm going to go as strong as saying that right now.

So that's, that's,

just be prepared to be shocked on Monday.

Okay.

We have that on Monday.

Tonight, we open the door on just

the laws of deception and what you're allowed to do.

And is that what's happening in Congress?

Because their records don't make sense.

How can you be somebody who is so devout, you get the rules changed in Congress so you can wear a scarf on your head.

You can wear a hijab.

They had to change that.

It's 180-some years old.

They had to change that law.

She got that change because she's so devout to her religion.

Now,

the way she practices her religion, she is a devout Muslim.

Well, if you are a devout Muslim, you are not for feminism.

You're just not.

Okay?

The hijab says it all.

You're not a feminist if you are a traditional Muslim.

You are also not cool with homosexuality, and yet she's on the front lines of fighting for homosexuality.

Now, we know reformers of Islam.

Reformers are always afraid for their life.

She's not being targeted by Islam as a blasphemer.

Why?

Why?

It doesn't make sense.

It makes zero sense.

Can I just on that point of if you're a devout Islamist woman, then you're not a feminist.

Many of these congresswomen are talking about Hamas, like non-stop.

You know, Hamas, Palestinians, very, very pro-Hamas.

And from the Hamas Charter, I just, because because I'm a nerd, just happen to have it up on my computer right now.

But they actually have a role of Muslim women in the Hamash Charter.

And it says right at the top that they are very, very important to the cause.

They, quote, manufacture men and play a great role in guiding and educating the new generation.

So that's about it.

They don't do much else.

They manufacture women and they educate the kids.

And it goes into more about how they do a very, very good job of maintaining the household.

That's a very feminist outlook on it.

So if you're defending Hamas

and you are part of the women's march because you want

feminism to be, it doesn't make any sense.

What the hell is wrong with us, America?

What's wrong with you?

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So, So what do you think of Dan Crenshaw?

I mean,

I hesitate to fall in love with politicians.

I do suck in the end.

But I want to fall in love with him.

Yeah, he's great.

I mean, so far, he's great.

And I like that he's not doing the typical politician stuff.

You know,

he's standing up for principal.

He is taking stands that are unpopular.

I love the way he handled the whole Saturday Night Live thing.

It wasn't like, oh, I got called a name.

I can easily take advantage of this.

I'm on the winning side of this victim battle.

Instead, he was like, ah, you know, everybody makes makes jokes and, you know, it's, we should watch what we do, but we shouldn't all get hurt our feelings hurt every single time someone makes a joke.

You know, the

worst

violators of the Constitution far as size of government is usually a retired veteran.

When they go to Congress, they usually become the worst.

Because

they're used to the government.

You know, they've served in the military, and so they're used to the government.

You're saying as far as spending issues and things.

Yeah.

The growth of government.

Right.

Okay.

Like John McCain, just grow the government, just keep growing the government.

Which is, you know, again, like, you know, the

VA is a great example of this.

It's like, it's so backwards.

As a society, we're like, well, here's our most important citizens.

Let's give them the crappiest health care available.

Let's give them the system of government and the system of health care that all the countries we're fighting against have.

Because they deserve a separate separate government-run piece of crap system instead of participating in the really good one that we have.

Well, anyway, here he is, Dan Crenshaw, on why the left hates tax cuts.

Listen to this.

I always want to remind everyone what we're really here talking about.

We're talking about a difference in philosophy.

It's not just tax rates.

It's a question of whether the government should be taking more of your money or whether you should keep more of your money.

There's a difference in the role of government and what we believe.

It seems to me that you all believe that the role of government is to tax the people as much as

so that you and your benevolent fellow academics can dream up more programs for the government to spend money on.

I don't believe that.

I don't believe that's what the role of government is for.

The role of government is to protect the God-given rights that we have and to ensure that we live as free as possible.

The role of government is to tax people to the least extent possible while still taxing them enough to cover basic needs for government.

And if we're questioning what those needs are, we can just look at our Constitution.

They're generally generally pretty clear there.

I love that.

Yeah, he's great.

It is so clear in the Constitution.

There's a big politico story profile of Dan Crenshaw.

Is he the future of the GOP?

And again, we jump on these bandwagons so quickly that a lot of times we misread these things early.

But so far, he's been really good.

And, you know,

his background, I mean, he won a race.

He was not supposed to win.

I mean, he won that primary.

He was not supposed to be a woman.

He's a solid guy.

Yeah.

I like him.

It seems great so far.

I like him.

And I like the fact that he's up on Capitol Hill talking about taxes.

And what is he using as his defense?

The Constitution.

Huh?

I know.

I know.

That's what everybody's like, huh?

What is this thing he's talking about?

This constipation.

What?

I have constipation, but

what does that have to do with taxes?

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So NBC is reporting that Senator Rand Paul on Tuesday railed against government-mandated vaccines, suggesting they infringe on personal rights.

This happened during a congressional hearing on immunizations and the role of protecting the public from preventable diseases like the measles outbreak.

Now, I saw him.

It didn't seem like he was railing.

I thought he was logically laying out a case.

Now, I personally am torn on the vaccine thing because I believe in vaccines.

My kids have been vaccinated.

And I believe we should.

Otherwise, these things are going to come back and bite us in the ass.

Now, if you don't believe that, I also believe in your right not to get vaccinated.

So how do we solve this?

We talk about that and so much more as the last hour of the broadcast begins in one minute.

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All right, let's go to let's go to Sarah, who is joining us.

Sarah Gonzalez, who is the host of the News and Why It Matters.

And that is heard right after my program every night on the Blaze TV.

It's kind of a roundtable discussion.

I love that show, especially that one guy kind of sits right across from you most days.

Really low.

Oh, Andrew.

I can't recall.

Oh, yeah, Andrew.

Jason.

Jason fills on sometimes.

Somebody else better looking than either of those two.

Must be me.

Must be me.

Anyway,

Sarah, I want to talk to you about what's happening on Capitol Hill right now.

And we have an outbreak of measles,

and measles should not be happening anymore.

I mean, you know, it's like polio.

Polio is making a comeback.

What?

How?

We eradicated polio.

No, some people don't want to take the vaccine.

And the balance of rights

and public health is a really dicey conversation.

Yeah, it is.

You know, I would just like to also point out, I don't believe that there's been a measles death since there was one in 2015, I believe.

So, you know,

I do know that there was a time where people just got the measles and that was just kind of a

way of life, you know, growing up, kind of like the chicken pox.

It wasn't necessarily a deadly, you know, disease.

So, you know, the measles is not so much my concern, but I would like to point out earlier, I heard that I was referred to as anti-vaccine.

Just set the record straight before I get hate mail.

I am not anti-vaccine.

I am pro-information and pro-parents' choice, just like you said.

I think that, you know, it's very clear that vaccines have saved lives.

And it's also very clear that vaccines are not 100% safe or 100% effective.

So, Stu, there was a new study that just came out, extensive study that just came out this week.

Have you seen it, Sarah?

I haven't.

Okay.

And it showed that vaccines are safe.

I mean, safe, safe how.

Did you see that you saw that?

This is a particular study.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff that goes around this particular topic, but this one was particularly about autism in

Denmark.

And so they did a study.

It was on 660,000

kids born in Denmark.

And Denmark is like super the opposite of us.

Like, we are,

we're like, hey, like, we should have the right to do what we want to do with our own kids.

And Denmark's like, we're going to take every piece of your information.

You know, it's great for researchers because, you know, it's like part of the law.

Like, when your kid is born, like, they take every piece of health information and give it over to the scientists.

So one of the things, so this was every kid born in Denmark over, I think it was a decade.

And they found no ties to, it was actually, you were actually less likely to get autism.

I think it was 17% less likely to be diagnosed with autism if you got the MMR vaccine.

That's not saying that they think it's vaccinating you against autism.

But it's just, you know, look, the I think the point of this is more,

and I think this is your point as well here, Sarah, which is like,

this is America, and we are, and parents, we are not, it is not, it does not take a village, right?

We are

we are the parents and we make the decisions.

And so the idea that the federal government is going to come in and tell us what, what, you know, what, what medicines or vaccines we have to give to our kids is the real, I think, the real argument here.

You know, when it comes to,

you know,

this bigger argument of whether they're good or bad, like, you know,

that is, I mean, you can look at all the science and you can make up your own mind.

That's what you're supposed to do as a parent, right?

You're supposed to be able to go in there and make up your own decisions.

Do you want to give your kid ibuprofen?

Do you want to give your kid Tylenol?

Do you, do you want to do these things?

I mean, I'm the same way, Glenn.

My kids are vaccinated through these things.

But, you know,

if you should have that ability, and I think that's Rand Paul's point.

Yes.

You should have the ability to make the choice as a parent.

What is the problem with doing that?

If you don't have the vaccine, okay, so more people are going to get sick.

But if my kids got the vaccine, they're not going to be the ones that got sick.

I mean, there are arguments.

I mean, you know, I'm sure you're well.

Yeah, the argument is the people who are in herd immunity, which, again, is a theory that was originally proposed when it comes to natural immunity.

It's never been.

Herd immunity is the idea, the theory, that

as long as so many of citizens in the society are vaccinated.

we will maintain that level.

You know, it was 95 or something percent.

As long as we maintain that level of vaccine rates, the diseases don't go back.

The diseases won't come back, even if some people don't get the vaccine.

Well, how many people are anti-vaccine?

How many people are not vaccinating their kids?

It's a very small percentage.

It's a very small percentage.

It is growing significantly, right?

And that's one of the, that's why it's become this sort of hot-button sort of political issue.

And there are other cases too, like, you know, infants have certain times in their lives where they can't get vaccinated yet, so they're vulnerable.

People with like, you know, cancer at times, they have weakened immune systems, so the vaccines don't work as well, even if they've been vaccinated.

There are issues.

And again, like as a society, you can say, okay, well, this is what we think the best path is for your health, and you should do this, and we can encourage it.

But even when you're putting someone else at risk, in the United States, like we say to people, like, look, we will license you to drive a car.

And if you do something that we think is wrong or you're putting other people in danger, then we will step in and stop that.

But we all have a choice, right?

Like to go in there and we all are at risk of other people doing things that we we can't control.

That's just the risk you have in a free society where people are walking around, you know, going to the grocery store.

They might have the flu.

You know, we're not going to mandate that they do anything.

But I do think that it's important to point out, Glenn, that, you know, you said that the study determined that vaccines were safe.

You know,

I think this particular study for autism.

Right.

But I think that we jump to the autism debate far too quickly.

Whenever we talk about vaccines and safety, we say, no, no, no, no, it doesn't cause autism.

That's that's already been debunked.

And we forget that a vaccine is a medication that we're injecting into our bodies, just like any other medication that we're putting into our bodies.

people are going to have different reactions.

So, I mean, vaccines have, you know, adverse reactions ranging from very mild to incredibly severe to death sometimes.

And so I think that it's important, you know, even the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons just came out and put out a statement saying forced vaccinations violates human rights because vaccines are not 100% safe or 100% effective.

So, to say to someone, we are going to force you to inject your infant, not knowing yet how they're going to respond, that's a problem.

And I think that we lose sight of that in this debate because we jump straight to autism as if there are no other side effects that could happen.

It's like if we said everybody, every male has to take Cialis.

Well, some of us are going to have a four-hour erection and going to have to go to the hospital.

That's a good question.

Not that you have any experience with that, right?

I don't.

Stepping back though here for a second, like let's just let me make the worst point of all time.

Every vaccine

causes autism 95 times over for every child.

That's my viewpoint.

Okay.

Okay.

No, it's not my viewpoint.

But let's just say it was.

Should I be able to go out and blab about that as much as I want in a society that has a First Amendment?

Yes.

The answer to that has to be yes.

I don't care how crazy the viewpoint is.

There's way crazier crap on the internet than

anything we could possibly come up with here today.

Like, for example, there's a new book in the top 50 overall on Amazon.

I found this yesterday.

It's incredible.

It's about the Q anonymous, whatever the hell that thing is, right?

The Q conspiracy theory that has been out for a while,

that thinks that Donald Trump is going to, I guess he's working with Robert Mueller to push back against Hillary Clinton, who controls the government somehow.

It may have worked a little bit in 2016.

How it works now, I don't know.

There's a new book out explaining this, and they say that it should make all sorts of claims.

Like, you know,

Democrats are like eating humans, all sorts of stuff.

And then the last one says, and the government was responsible for the movie Monsters Inc.

Legitimately, part of this conspiracy theory is the government created the movie Monsters Inc.

I've got to read this book.

Now maybe I might buy it as well.

But it's like that absolutely, even though I think it's complete nonsense,

is

is protected by the First Amendment.

And that's largely not exactly what we're talking about here because these are like things getting banned off of social media and different companies.

But like, why can't we all be First Amendment absolutists?

Why can't we all be people who are like, look, I don't care how crazy the information is, if people want to read it, they should be able to read it.

Look, the guy who wrote the anarchist cookbook,

he, and it was proven to be in the hands of people who went tons.

Blew people up and and killed people.

He tried to get that pulled back.

He was like, I wrote it when I was a kid.

I was stupid.

I was wrong.

Please, I don't want this published anymore.

He couldn't.

It was already out in the ether.

He didn't own the copyright.

And so it's still for sale at Amazon.

Now, if we can tell people how to gas people and how to blow people up, I think we can have a conversation about vaccines.

May I lay the groundwork for this, the First Amendment issue?

Yeah, sure.

So a CNN business report came out

and they had apparently done some expose on searching for vaccine, just vaccine-related information on platforms like Amazon,

Google, YouTube, those places.

And they said that, you know, the search yielded a lot of anti-vaccine.

anti-vaccine information and vaccine misinformation and you know how irresponsible it was of these platforms following that um

uh Adam Schiff wrote an open letter to these same platforms, Facebook, YouTube, Google, Amazon, and told them it was basically their responsibility to make sure for public health that they were not responsible for spreading this misinformation.

This is the problem.

What did she just call them?

Platforms.

Platforms.

If you want them to edit, they are then publishers and they must have the ability to be sued.

But because they're platforms, I'm telling you, the left and the right, if they thought they could get away with it, will marry into these people so deeply and they'll just say, you got to do exactly what we say.

And they're going to, it's, it is 1984.

It's the beginning of Orwell.

It really is.

They're going to be in your house watching you at all times.

They're going to be working together.

It is not good.

They need to be separated.

They need to be a platform

or a publisher, but not both.

Anyway.

Yeah.

So, in response to that letter,

just in the last week, we've seen Pinterest now ban searches for vaccine content.

YouTube no longer allows what they determine anti-vaccine groups to monetize any of their videos with ads.

Facebook is now fact-checking.

So you can be glad.

Now you're safe that Facebook is fact-checking any health or vaccine-related material to make sure that if they don't deem it to be true or correct, it's not seen in people's news feeds.

And then I think the most egregious move was by Amazon, who just completely removed many documentaries that they determined to be anti-vaccine.

There were some conflicting reports that they were removing books as well.

But I mean, you're not talking about Alex Jones says vaccines are bad, the documentary.

I mean, you're talking about documentaries that are, they haven't been sued.

You know, what they're saying is factual, you know, factual enough to not be sued.

You're talking about, you know, there was was one that, you know, it has a provocative title.

I think it's called Shoot Em Up.

But it features

three doctors that Dr.

Stephanie Cave, a family doctor for over 30 years, Dr.

Richard Moskowitz, 50 years of practice.

He went to Harvard.

Dr.

Lawrence Palewski, over 30 years of practice.

These people, just because they're dissenting, they have the dissenting opinion, they're being silenced.

But I think that, I mean, you know, just because they have this dissenting opinion doesn't mean that their experiences and their research is not valid.

So

this is the issue here.

We're not even talking about vaccines.

We're really not.

We're talking about the First Amendment.

Right.

And you mentioned Alex Jones, and I would certainly not buy an Alex Jones documentary, but I mean, people should have the right.

You should have.

And you're right.

The anarchist cookbook is still available on Amazon.

I mean, you should be.

Because it went all the way to the Supreme Court.

You cannot do this.

This is First Amendment.

First Amendment.

And those people who have had their books or materials, I don't care how crazy they are, if they're not in court with an attorney and they're not going and taking it all the way to the Supreme Court, they're fools.

Well, Amazon, though, has a right to not sell the anarchist book cookbook, right?

Like, if they don't want, if they don't want to sell it, that is their personal choice to not sell it.

That's different.

They are published.

They are a

private business, a store.

They can carry whatever they want.

However,

Facebook and YouTube,

they don't have that right.

Twitter doesn't have that right.

You should sue them.

Well, and might I just bring up, you know, there's while there's all of this censorship going on, parents are not allowed, you know, this information that doctors and credible sources are putting out, you know, even if it was Alex Jones, that's fine.

But these credible sources are at least putting out the information.

At the same time, you've got Professor Peter Hotez, who is responsible for writing this legislation of this forced mandates

at the federal level.

He said he called for, and I quote this, a comprehensive public-private partnership between the U.S.

government and all the major stakeholders, Facebook, Amazon, Google, to look at dismantling the anti-vaccine empire.

Look out.

Look out, America.

That's not the government's job.

Look at this.

The painting I did just a couple of weeks ago.

It is as a warning.

That is the government with Facebook and Google all together, all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful.

Look out.

It's coming.

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Thanks.

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So last night I just

I was so

New York Times magazine came out this weekend with the cover when did we all become socialists?

I don't know.

When did that happen?

I mean,

we're all socialists now.

That was from that was Newsweek 2008.

We're all socialists now.

And then they covered their head and went back undercover.

They thought they could come out during the Obama administration, but no, no, no.

They had to call everybody a racist.

If you even said you were a socialist, if you said that person is a socialist, that was racist.

You were redbaiting.

It wasn't an ideology, but now it is is an ideology.

And New York Times says, when did we all become socialists?

Well, we all didn't.

You guys have been socialists for a very long time.

How about when did everybody start admitting they're socialists?

Yes.

Which is incredible to me because we, you're right, we got beat up pretty badly from the mainstream media saying, hey, you're calling Barack Obama, you're saying he has Marxist tendencies.

Well, that means that you're saying that because he's black.

I'm like, wait, how did you even get that out of what?

What does that have to do with race?

It has nothing to do with race.

Many Pelosi is not black.

The left has tendencies.

If you think of it as a road, we are

on a place on the road.

To the left is socialism.

To the right is no government whatsoever.

Okay.

Which way do you want to walk?

I want to walk towards the no government whatsoever.

And I'm going to walk for a really long time and stop before I get to the end of the road, but walk for a really long time.

They want to walk constantly towards socialism, government,

easier totalitarianism, statism.

That's what they want.

They want to keep moving until the state has close to 100%.

You just heard it.

A public-private partnership between Google, Facebook, YouTube, and all of those platforms to silence the speech that the government doesn't like.

Right.

And even if you don't like it too, that doesn't mean that you get rid of that speech.

You don't do that.

You just don't do that.

And that's what the socialist movement is all about.

Somehow or another,

they are trying to wiggle out of this again.

And the New York Times and the Washington Post are leading the way.

And it's already happening in our colleges that socialism is a myth.

You know, all these things that they say are going to happen, those are old-timey things.

It doesn't happen that way.

Well, what about Venezuela?

That's not old-timey.

We

will go through this with a guy I saw at CPAC.

He's just amazing.

He's been on the program before, Justin Haskins.

He's the executive editor of the Heartland Institute.

And

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so when did we all become socialists that's the question from the new york times magazine this last sunday and uh the answer is we're not all socialists maybe you in the newsroom have uh have gone all socialists but america has not gone all socialists this uh last weekend i was at cpac

and um and i decided to break off and go into one of the smaller conference rooms uh because

there was a speaker that I wanted to hear, and his name is Justin Haskins.

And he is

very funny and just really sharp on socialism and the Green New Deal.

He's written for The Blaze regularly.

He also is a contributor for The Washington Examiner and also a columnist for townhall.com.

Welcome to the program.

Justin, how are you?

I'm doing great.

Thanks for having me, Glenn.

You bet.

I wanted to to go over the five myths of socialism.

I don't know if you saw this from the Washington Post.

I did.

Yeah.

And also, when did everybody become socialist from the New York Times?

Can you answer that one?

Yeah, sure.

I don't think everyone has become socialist, as you pointed out.

I think that we're living in a time when socialism is clearly on the rise, especially among young people.

And I imagine that if you spent all of your time living in the sort of Greenwich Village, New York bubble that the writer of this particular article that you're referencing does, then yeah, I'm sure everyone seems like they're socialists.

But if you go out to, you know, Iowa or something, I'm sure you're going to find a lot of people who do not believe in Karl Marx's ideology.

It's on the rise, but it's definitely not something that we

that you could say is quintessential America.

No question about that.

So let me give you the five myths about socialism, because you just wrote a new book

about socialism.

And the name escapes me, I'm sorry.

Socialism is evil.

Pretty easy book to remember.

Yeah, pretty easy.

I haven't read it yet, and I want to have you on next week to talk about it after I've had a chance to read it.

But you're pretty clear on socialism.

You were very clear and very funny about the Green New Deal on

how this is clearly just socialism.

It has nothing to do

with

green energy or anything else.

Correct.

Yeah.

The Green New Deal is the most radical, dangerous, destructive policy proposal in modern American history.

It is a socialist Trojan horse without any question at all.

And the obvious way to realize that this is the case is that if you really believed that we were about to head into some sort of post-apocalyptic hellscape 100 years into the future, or that 12 years from now we're all going to be dead, as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez suggested not too long ago, then you wouldn't waste a single penny of taxpayer money on things like a federal jobs guarantee or land use practices for farmers or

basic income programs or free college tuition or upgrading homes for safety and comfort.

I mean, the list goes on and on and on.

The Green New Deal is full of socialist programs.

Climate change is just a convenient excuse the left uses, especially democratic socialists, to enact all of the programs that they've always wanted to enact with or without climate change.

You know, you said this, Justin, and it just struck me as so true that if you are really truly, like Ocasio-Cortez, says we only have 12 years before we're all dead, before this thing is just out of control, you wouldn't talk about anything else.

Nothing else.

Your whole campaign, your whole life would be centered around that.

Yeah,

absolutely right.

It's sort of like, you know, in New York City, I know you've spent some time in New York City, so you know this.

You go to Times Square and you see a guy on the side of the road in Times Square with like an old pizza box that says, the end is here.

You know, the end of the world is about to come.

It's like he's there every single day and the end of the world never comes.

But then it would be like if he started putting, like, taping another another little small sign next to it saying, oh, and rent is too high.

It's like,

does it matter if rent is too high?

If the world is about to end?

Right.

I mean, that's where we're at.

That was one of the things with the sort of the FAQ that was attached to the Green New Deal when it came out, and they were so embarrassed about it, and they hit it right away.

And it said stuff like, let's get rid of airplanes.

And Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter.

He's like, I like to fly to Puerto Rico, and I'm not saying that.

Well, why aren't aren't you saying it?

You're saying the entire earth is going to disintegrate in a decade.

Why would you want to fly to go see your family?

You can't call them.

Why are you even going to Washington, D.C.

to vote on these things?

You can't come up with a system to vote on the internet?

It's completely ridiculous.

It's so clear that this is just something, and you've talked about this, Glenn, and I think you have as well, Justin.

It's like, it's this concept of perpetual constant war.

We can't always have a World War I or World War II to get people to do what we want.

We need to come up with something, and the environment is it, where it's this constant war all the time.

We can always bend the rules.

We can always take more power because things are always dire.

We're always teetering on that cliff of the earth just going away.

So, of course, we can justify anything.

Well, look at how much just the Patriot Act changed this country.

Think of that.

Patriot Act completely changed us,

changed our theories of privacy and

security entirely, entirely.

And you just put one of those in because you're in a new war you put this new green deal act in and it will uh it will change us more than the patriot act would you agree with that justin totally oh yeah absolutely and the best and the best from a from a socialist perspective the best part about the green new deal is because it's dealing with climate change it's always 80 years off into the future or something you can always say oh well we just got the prediction the model a little wrong but 20 years from now, it's going to be chaos.

Or and then 20 years comes and nothing happens.

And 20 years from now, it's going to be chaos.

You can always predict it

off into the future and just say, yeah, this is a problem that's going to happen.

I know it hasn't happened yet, but it's going to.

Trust me.

And because the media all backs it, everyone just goes along and believes it.

So one of the myths that they bring up

from the Washington Post is that all socialists want to abolish markets and private property.

And that's just not true.

They just want a little more control on a few things that really matter.

Right.

Yeah.

I think in the short term, there are certainly socialist parties and groups that are not advocating for the end of private property tomorrow.

But every single one of them has the same goal.

The utopian goal that they're all looking for, that Karl Marx was talking about 150 years ago, is the same.

It's we want to live in a world where there is absolutely no classes at all, which means no groups of people with different amounts of wealth.

Everybody has the same amount of wealth.

That's what we want.

And every socialist party, even the Democratic Socialists of America, were very careful to say on their website, you know, we don't want to abolish property tomorrow, say, eventually, though, we would like to abolish private property.

I mean, that would be great.

So they're all working towards that same cause.

It's not true that there are socialists out there who say, ah, we like capitalism,

but just we want

some controls on it.

No, no, no.

They want to abolish property.

They want to abolish private property.

They want it to be completely controlled by the collective.

It's just a matter of

how long they're willing to wait to have this happen and how extreme they're willing to be at this very moment.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: What's the strongest message that we can deliver to people who think that socialism is neat and it's probably some sort of an app.

Right.

I think the strongest message that conservatives can give, and it's something that, frankly,

conservatives have been incredibly terrible at this over the past few decades, is we have this tendency to obsess over economics and then just seed the moral high ground entirely on this issue.

And so we spend all of our time talking about, well, we got to lower tax rates and, oh, we need GDP growth.

And it's like, you know what?

Those things are not the most important things in the world.

The most important things in the world are individual freedom, inalienable rights.

I have the right to my property, to my life, to live my life the way I see fit, not to have some majority or some bureaucracy somewhere decide how I'm going to live my life.

And that those are the conversations that we need to have.

That conversation about natural law, where do my rights come from?

Do they come from the government or do they come from somewhere else?

We're not even having those conversations.

We're not even on the edge of those conversations

in common discourse.

We're too busy fighting over these minute little issues that at the end of the day don't matter.

What really matters is can we focus on individual liberty and personal freedom?

Or should we have a society where the collective decides everything?

And if you happen to be in the minority, well then too bad for you.

That's the thing that

bothers me the most.

I mean, you look at slavery.

The majority could have voted for slavery.

In fact, the Supreme Court said slavery was okay.

It wasn't.

You know,

even if you're in

a democratic socialist

market, if you will, if the majority votes that you have to do something, that's still slavery.

I don't care if everybody else voted for it.

You didn't.

It's still slavery.

Yeah, that's right.

And actually,

when the country was founded, this was one of the debates that the Loyalists had with those who

were the Patriots, the people who wanted to move away from England.

They basically said,

look, why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away?

That whole quote that was in the Patriot and Mather Biles likely said it, a Massachusetts pastor.

I mean,

that whole notion of, well,

democracy can be tyranny too.

Yeah, we have this obsession in America over democracy, like democracy is somehow this inherently good thing.

Democracy is not inherently good.

Democracy can be evil.

What is inherently good is individual liberty coupled with democracy.

That system works.

And

that is totally incompatible with socialism because socialism doesn't allow for individual rights.

I mean, Hezbollah was democratically elected.

Democracy on its own is not necessarily great.

Let me take one more thing here with you, Justin, because

I agree with you and your criticisms on where the left is going.

Let's point inward a little bit here, though.

I think quite often we on the right

have

it's easy to be principled when you're in the minority.

It's easy to be principled when things are going your way.

But when things hit you, we've talked about several examples over the past couple of weeks, where things where it feels like you're really getting screwed, and I just need a little bit more power from the government to be able to enforce this thing that I want.

See, this thing, though, is a real problem, and I really need the extra power this time.

Yes, the Constitution, but this is too important.

How do you, I don't feel like people in those moments typically are able to bring themselves back to those principles that really have guided the country the entire way.

Yeah, you're exactly right.

What we need desperately, the biggest opportunity that was missed by Republicans, and there were a lot of opportunities missed over the past couple of years, was this idea of embracing the freedom to fail.

Okay,

the country was established as very different communities with completely different ideas, very different than the states that we have today.

And yet it worked because they were willing to say to each other, we know that we're different, but we're going to allow each other

with some constraints.

We're going to allow each other to live the way we believe is right.

We're not going to impose those beliefs on each other.

That's why we have state constitutions and state rights.

And we have totally moved away from that, both in the Republican Party and in the Democratic Party.

And now it seems like every four years, the world is about to end for somebody because we're going to have this incredibly important election where we're about to elect some imperial president who's going to make all of our decisions for us.

And then he gets to appoint a couple of open seats to the Supreme Court.

And then the Supreme Court's going to decide by a two-vote margin

what liberty means for 330 million people.

Does this sound like a free society?

Not at all.

Not at all.

Justin, we'll have you back next week.

We want to talk a little bit about your new book.

It's called Socialism is Evil.

And

if you've ever read Justin or you've ever listened to him speak, this is the first time you can see he has a great sense of humor and

very well read.

Justin Haskins, thank you so much for being on.

Thanks.

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You know, in the middle of this emergency talk, a national emergency for the border, it looks like the press

is losing a talking point.

Yeah, this is interesting because the right is debating this issue, saying, yes, there's a big problem at the border.

Is this the right way to deal with it or not?

That's the right's debate.

But we do, I think we would all agree that there is a problem on the border.

There is almost an emergence.

There's a crisis.

Emergency crisis.

Yeah, there's a crisis at the border.

Border really bad.

How do we handle it?

Is this this way, right, or not?

The left is not debating it that way.

They love the way it's being handled.

They love the idea that the power is there for them to do climate change next time.

What they're debating is, what they're saying is, well, yes, of course the president has the power to do such a thing, but he's doing it on something that's not really an emergency.

That's their distinction.

They're saying the border is completely fine.

New York Times today says,

maybe not.

Border at a breaking point.

New York Times.

Yeah, this is the headline.

Border at a breaking point as more than 76,000 migrants cross in a month.

It is an 11-year high.

One of the talking points has been: look, border crossings are down.

And if you look at numbers, which has been true.

However, we have a big spike.

In fact, the spike

is really dramatic, 11-year high, and a 434% increase in the El Paso sector, which covers the state of New Mexico and two western most counties of Texas.

At least 70 groups, when you're talking about caravans and these large groups, 70 groups of 100 or more have turned themselves in at border patrol stations.

70 groups of 100 or more.

Remember how much we were mocked for saying the caravan was even real?

70.

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