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well hello you sick freak welcome to the program from cpac in washington dc

It is an interesting, interesting day to be alive in America when you're at a conservative movement and what you have to talk about and what everyone is talking about is capitalism being on the ropes and socialism being seriously considered by those in Congress and the Senate and those vying for the White House.

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All right, Glenn is down in CPAC right now.

Glenn, are you with us?

I am, Stu.

Thank you so much.

I'm very tiddling.

I wish you were here.

Oh, I wish I was there too.

I really do.

Do you?

Actually, it's good to be here because

the crowd is very young, dynamic, and I think wide awake.

You know, it was interesting.

You know,

I've never had to start a conference before and walk out where everybody's like, I can't believe I have to get up this early for this conference.

But people are here because they know the country is in real trouble.

They feel it.

And

the theme today, unbeknownst to me, is socialism.

That's what CPAC started out with in

this opening video about socialism and how socialism is coming and what Ronald Reagan said about it.

And that's what my speech was about.

Did you get a chance to see it?

I did.

It seemed like it went really well.

It was well received.

You went through a bunch of, I mean, we're going to play a little bit of it coming up later in the program, but you really went into socialism.

And, you know, one of the things you've talked about for a long time is this sort of conversion of the left from people who deny their socialists and say you're a racist for calling them socialist.

And that conversion to taking the mask off and saying, you know what, capitalism doesn't work.

I am a socialist.

I'm proud of it.

I'm not denying it anymore.

Here we are.

And I mean, that's America today.

That is what we're seeing with the Democratic Party.

Yeah, I remember saying that while I was on Fox, I remember saying there's going to come a time when they're going to take the mask off because they want to tell you.

They want, they're dying to tell you that capitalism doesn't work, you Cretan.

And really, if exactly what I had in my mind is exactly Ocasio-Cortez and

what she said, I think it was on 60 Minutes, where she's like, yeah, I'm a socialist, you know, because this isn't working.

This isn't working.

So if I guess being for, you know, a better system and justice and fairness,

you know, if that's what that, that's a socialist, then yeah, I'm a socialist.

Exactly what I thought that they would start to say.

And now they're saying it in droves.

But as I pointed out in the speech,

capitalism is about justice and fairness.

Socialism is about equality.

Now, equality sounds nice.

We're all for equality, but

therefore equality of outcome.

And equality of outcome does not exist in nature.

It's not like all lions are created equal.

No, some lions kill and eat other lions.

It is unnatural.

You got to remember,

progressives and socialists try to take man

and

perfect him into a God.

Because they don't believe in God, they have to

perfect man and man can be a god.

Government can be a god.

And that's just not true.

Our founders understood we're not gods.

We're the farthest thing from it.

We're animals and there's a natural instinct in us.

And so the systems that work are the ones that try to protect equal

justice, not equal outcome.

And

what's happened is we have social justice and equal outcomes.

Well, that's not going to do anything but provide misery.

Just misery.

And we're seeing it.

And you talked about it any quality.

Socialism, as I said today, socialism works.

It does.

I know everybody says it doesn't, but it does.

It does exactly what it is

designed to do.

And you can see it in Venezuela.

What does socialism always do?

It takes those who are the ranchers, who know better than everybody else, and it puts them in charge of the farm or the ranch.

It gives them all of the benefits.

They create fences because the cattle and the sheep,

they're just too stupid.

They're going to hurt themselves.

And I know what's best.

And so

they will milk the cows and slaughter the sheep and get richer and richer, take all of the benefits and keep all that cattle just breeding, just consuming, so they can live off that fatted calf.

And then what?

If there is a bull or a cow or a sheep that just will not remain in the fence, they got to kill that one.

They got to slaughter it.

If it won't play by the rules, if it doesn't understand that the rancher is in charge, they got to get rid of it.

And meanwhile, what is socialism doing for the elite?

Right now,

Maduro is taking gold and shipping it.

Another eight tons of Venezuelan gold has been shipped away.

For who?

For who?

For him.

And Chavez, his daughter is a multi-millionaire.

How?

What did she do besides being the daughter of the leader of Venezuela that raped the country?

So all it does,

it accomplishes everything that it is set out to do.

Make the elite rich and in control, control the masses, and let them all be equal, equally miserable, equally poor, and eventually equally dead.

You mentioned something, you kind of described this in a way I hadn't heard you describe it before with socialism and this idea of equality and how socialism targets equality,

but it makes us all equally poor.

You mentioned holding up the socialist yardstick to

measure capitalism.

And how we've kind of given in to that over time.

We've given into this idea that we're supposed to say, well, well, yes, we swear it it will make you equal eventually, when that's not really the idea of what capitalism is supposed to provide at the end.

Right.

We say,

you know, capitalism creates inequality.

Yes, yes.

And it's time to just say it.

Yes, it does.

And that's a good thing.

Inequality of outcome.

Because if you try to use the socialist measuring stick, which by the way, has no numbers on it, I'd like to say that it's a metric

measuring stick, but it's not even that.

There's no measuring stick.

This system has never worked as they described.

It's never been implemented.

It doesn't exist, nor can or will it ever exist.

It's like measuring things against a fantasy unicorn.

Well, your horse can't do what my unicorn does.

Well, where's your unicorn?

Well, I'm going to get it in a minute.

If I could just get your horse out of the way, maybe I could find my unicorn.

You can't, unicorns don't exist.

And so we're comparing our horses, if you will, to their unicorn, which doesn't exist.

Why are we playing this game?

Why are we comparing ourselves to a system that is a fantasy?

I'll compare this system to Venezuela.

I'll compare this system to Russia.

I'll compare our system to Cuba.

But what they'll say is, well, that's not really, I mean, they didn't do it right.

Okay, show me where they did it right.

Sweden, that's not socialism.

That's a capitalist system with a giant welfare state.

That's what that is.

So again, give me the socialist utopia that I can compare it to.

You can't produce one because it's a unicorn.

No, I mean, you can, everyone can sit here and say, let's measure this against the perfect thing.

The only fair thing to compare American capitalism is to is every other nation in the history of the earth.

And if you do that,

American capitalism looks pretty damn sweet.

When you look, Stu, and we've talked about this before, when you look at

the actual stats that because of the free market system,

because of the free market, we now have

fewer children dying before the age of five than ever ever before.

In fact, the death of children under the age of five has dropped by half since 1990.

Now,

what caused that?

Sweden?

Or the American and free market ingenuity that Americans and the American system has unleashed?

When you look at everybody, you don't hear that stat.

You don't hear that people are living much longer, much healthier all around the world.

You don't don't hear that capitalism has, yes, made

the world more unequal because we have lifted billions of people out of poverty.

And there are still people in poverty, and there are more rich people than ever before.

But we can work on the people in poverty.

Why tear down the rich?

When you know that 70% of the people believe healthcare and poverty has gotten worse, but just because of the life-saving improvements that have happened just in the last two decades, it is the equivalent of averting 27 major plane crashes full of children every single day.

Why are we focused on the plane crash?

Because there's no bad news in the free market when you look at it and step back.

When you're looking at, well, look at this.

This is a problem.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's got a bad hangnail.

Yeah, he might have even a broken foot.

America and capitalism has lost its moorings for sure.

But

it is still the best system.

And if we would just recognize that and come back to our center, the whole world changes.

We'll do some more here in just a minute.

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We've got Lawrence Jones, who just popped in.

Oh, nice.

Who's now with the Fox News channel?

He's a bigwig.

I'm surprised he even stops by to see his old friends, his old friends he's left behind.

Old mentor.

Yeah, how are you, buddy?

I'm good.

Good.

Can you explain?

You're speaking today at 3 o'clock.

3.30.

We'll talk about what's happening on the college campus and how it's affecting culture today.

For so long, conservatives did not take what was happening on the college campus seriously.

They thought Bernie was just a crazy guy.

Well, Bernie went with new supporters.

And it's not just AOC, it's the Presleys of the world, the Rashids.

So we should take it seriously.

So are people on college campuses, are they starting to wake up at all or is it just getting worse and worse?

No we've already lost the battle on the college campuses.

It's too late as far as that but we can win the war and that means the new kids that are going into college campuses, we're catching them before they get indoctrinated on that campus.

And that means having a presence.

That means that?

Well in the home.

You know so many people don't leave with a foundation and that's why when they get into the college campuses they're able to be indoctrinated.

And so, we got to have a force on the college campuses, but the parents that are listening to this program have to do their job as well.

Tell them about the Constitution because there is a rise of socialism, and it's the nice thing.

It's not the nice thing.

Does AOC

connect with them because they're not thinking?

I mean, I watch Cassio-Cortez.

I'm sure you do too, and you think

she is dumb as a box of rocks at times.

Well, I think this, what people miss with AOC, and I've been to a district and talked with people, is that there is a certain Trump effect when it comes to AOC.

I remember when he was first running, a lot of conservatives on our side, and libertarians said what he's saying is absolutely insane.

But the ability to connect with people and how they feel, I think sometimes we discount that.

As conservatives and libertarians, we're all about the facts and figures.

So, like Trump, you should take AOC seriously, but not literally.

Not literally.

That's exactly right.

Except in her case,

maybe it's because she's softening it too much.

I mean, I've seen her in committee meetings where she opens up a can of whoop, you know what.

So, I think it's there.

I think that she does, but I do think she is talking to people's hearts within her district and a rise in America where they believe that our current system that runs on capitalism doesn't work.

And And so she's talking to those people.

She's not talking to the logical people like me and you that operate based on facts and figures and numbers.

She's talking to people's heart and how they feel.

So how do you fight that?

Well, you fight that by becoming better storytellers.

And it's been my criticism, whether it's conservative reaching black folks in the community or young people in the community.

You can't just talk in theories and, you know, you know, doesn't Thomas Sowell, you have to be able to connect with people and we lack in that.

But doesn't Donald Trump do that?

I mean, he's making real progress in the black community, isn't he?

Well, I don't think so.

You don't think so?

No, I don't think so.

I think there's a lot of black people that like Donald Trump.

But as far as

getting black people on the rise to vote for him, that's not happening.

I know people have cited different polls and figures, but I'm there.

I go and talk to my community.

And although they say I agree with him on some things,

he's not there in the community.

So they're never going to vote for anybody like that.

Hasn't he changed?

I mean, lower,

you know, like a rise in 2% of the vote?

I'm not looking at it.

No, no, no.

I'm saying, hasn't he

hasn't he in some ways transformed the unemployment for the hundred percent Americans?

So they don't see that?

Well,

the best analogy that I can

use is is a single parent, right?

To the black community,

the Democratic Party is the single mom, right?

And she's doing the best that she can.

Whereas

the dad is saying, look, I'm doing all of this.

I'm sending my child support.

I'm buying you all the clothes.

I'm financially providing for you.

Hey, look at me.

But he's not spending time with them.

And so all the black people see is the single mom and saying, well, she's not the best mother, but at least she's there.

and so that is the connection when it comes to

he could connect oh 100 he's done it his whole life he can connect

around black people how many lyrics have you listened i know you don't listen to hip-hop but i

know i

shockingly

shockingly iraccurate on the songs that you hear donald trump everybody all the pictures are from sharpton to jackson all of them have taken pictures with him because everybody wanted to be like trump because he was the dream for a lot of black people of being a billionaire right when he became a republican Republican and he stopped connecting in the way that he knew how to do his whole life is when there became a problem.

I still think he can do it.

So, what would

you have?

If you had his ear for five minutes, what would you tell him to do?

Well, I'll tell him just like I told him before in the White House before, go to the community, have rallies there.

You already have reached the people and flyover country.

Go have rallies

in the community.

And talk about

development.

I could tell you that that would scare the hell out of me if I were him because I know the lock on the inner cities that Democrats have, that they would bust, they would know exactly what, and they would bust people in and get people from all of, they've done it to me.

I know.

They've done it to me where they've bust people in from another state to protest and to cause trouble.

You don't think they'd do that for somebody the president?

They would, but the president would make inroads.

I think that's the biggest problem with the Republican party and the movement at large is that we're so afraid of rejection and what happens when we go into different communities so do we not go what if jesus would have had that no i know i know mentality i know that i know that

it's just that

well i guess jesus wasn't paying playing you know with people who were fair either right i mean they were

right exactly yeah

but i think there is real progress can be made because let's be honest donald trump doesn't talk the actual the typical conservative language That's not how he talks.

And so there is a way that he can connect.

When I go to my barbershop back home, they love Donald Trump.

They disagree with him on some things.

They think he says crazy things.

But at large, they like him.

And that won't transfer into votes.

I think it will, but he has to go.

You got to ask for it.

You can't just say, what do you have to lose?

I'm sorry, that's a bad strategy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can't just say, oh, you're on a Democratic clientation.

Sorry, that's a bad strategy.

Yeah, insult me and didn't ask me for my vote.

You got to be there.

That's all they got to do.

I am so glad to see you.

You have grown so much.

And,

you know, I always hate to lose people who are talented from the nest.

Man, you are flying.

It's great.

It is great.

All that mentorship for four years.

You were great.

He used to shoot me out, guys.

I'm sure you guys have seen episodes of his life.

Get it together.

You're great.

You're great.

You're getting better every day.

Thank you.

Lauren, so great to see you.

Thank you.

We're from CPAC.

I want to introduce you to somebody that you have never met before, probably may have never heard of before.

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yeah geez uh you there we're live okay we're back at cpac and uh we just we just i've caused a mess here i've caused a mess i have i have to introduce you to somebody who is remarkable uh his name is uh phoenix legg and uh phoenix just said to me you you used to have a show on fox right and i said yes and he said uh what?

I wasn't in the politics remote.

I don't know.

Yeah, you are now.

How old are you now?

I'm 11 years old.

You're 11 years old.

You came up to me dressed in a suit and a hat and a microphone, and you said, excuse me, Mr.

Beck, I'd like to see if I could get some time to do an interview with you.

And

you've interviewed the president?

We're not hearing him, Glenn, just in case.

on, we're not hearing him at all.

Can you hear him now?

Say that again.

I haven't gotten to meet the president, but interviewing him, or I've gotten to meet the president, but getting an interview with him is my goal.

Is your goal, okay, all right.

So, uh, what what what do you what do you do for a living?

Um, I don't make anything, but to me, my living is joy, so I do this, I report

on politics.

On politics, and you post it online?

Uh,

my blog, which is PhoenixRisinginAmerica.com.

Phoenix PhoenixRisinginamerica.com.

Okay, so let's do this interview.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

So, first of all, thank you for your time.

You're welcome.

So, how long have you been reporting?

I have been in media since I was two years older than you are, 11.

So, you have a head start on me.

So,

I didn't know that actually.

Someone asked, why were you interested then?

Because I didn't want to work and I thought this was an easy job.

Either that or I was a fan of old radio and people who had done really amazing things on radio.

And I had listened to somebody called Orson Welles.

He did War of the Worlds and it painted all kinds of pictures and I loved the power of the spoken word.

So

what would your advice be for somebody like me who is young and likes to be a reporter or in the media?

So you want to be a reporter?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

First thing I would do is say, Dad, don't let him become a reporter.

The first thing you have to do is seek truth and know that you will never find it.

It will always, once you think you know it, if you're smart, you'll realize, no, I may know that, but now that's opened up all these other doors that I really don't know the answer to that.

And so

you have to dedicate your life to constant learning.

You have to be interested in reading and learning about everything.

You have to, somebody gave me the advice once on charity.

He said, you can't care just about cancer.

You can't care just about homelessness.

You have to care about all of it because it's the human condition.

So you need to read history and dedicate your life to seeking the truth.

From your past experience, what was the most, you know, what did you take away from all your experience in media?

That

most people are not not curious.

Most people are afraid.

Most people

will sell out for a comfortable lifestyle.

And

why did you start the voice?

Because I felt an independent voice

needs to exist because these giant corporate monoliths

have too many gates that you have to pass through before your voice could be heard and voices like yours need to be heard.

And what would you tell your viewers about what you do?

Not a reporter, but all your viewers.

I don't understand the question.

How do you mean?

Like, what do you have to say to your viewers about what you do?

What is your experience?

They are on the same page, hopefully, and they are helping us build

a wallless

journalistic experience that everyone can be involved.

I'm going going to give you my signature question.

Okay.

That is, what do you think kids my age can do to help unite our country?

Study, study, study.

Learn history.

Go and learn from original sources.

Don't take anybody's word for it.

Don't trust anybody when they say, hey, trust me on that.

That's true.

Don't trust them on that.

It might be true.

But find out for yourself

and be kinder to everyone.

Don't harden harden yourself into one position to where you are looking down your nose at others with the other position.

Does that sound good?

Thank you so much for your time.

Thank you.

Phoenix, you're the greatest.

Thank you so much.

Dad, I don't know what you're doing, but congratulations on that, his dad, Max, or Matt.

Where is John Lott?

Let me bring John Lott in.

John is here.

Thank you, Phoenix.

John, come on in.

John is probably the leading expert on weapons and guns and

all the stats off the top of his head.

John,

it's been a disturbing, really week with what's just passed in Congress

with H.R.

8 and I think it's H.R.

11-12.

But this is just the beginning, isn't it?

Right.

Well, I mean, these are just ways to make it very costly for law-abiding citizens to be able to own guns and to deny it.

And it's going to make people less safe.

I mean, we're here in Washington, D.C.

It costs $125 to privately transfer a gun in Washington, D.C.

That may not stop you or I from being able to go and do it, but there are poor people, the very people that my research indicates benefit the most,

who are most likely to be victims of violent crime, poor minorities who live in high-crime urban areas.

It may be great if the police were there all the time, but they're not.

And the system that they have, we keep on hearing this week that there have been three and a half million dangerous prohibited people that have been stopped from buying guns because of background checks.

That's simply not true.

What they should say is there have been 3.5 million initial denial, and that something around 99% of those are mistakes.

Wow.

And the thing is, it primarily hurts minorities.

So here's what I'm concerned about, because I think all of those are valid, but I think they're doing this, and at the same time, they're taking a back door by going in through the financial system and telling Citibank and others, don't do business with gun manufacturers or gun stores.

If they close down and say you have to transfer at a gun store and then make it impossible for gun stores to operate,

how are you ever going to be able to obtain a gun, sell a gun, buy anything?

No, I mean I agree.

There's many faceted ways that they're trying to make it costly for people, particularly poor people, to be able to go and get guns to own.

And it's also, I think, a step towards registration that they're going to be setting up.

Where if, you know, right now the bills that they have say that they can't put together a registration list, but the dealers have to keep records of all the transfers as well as the sales that they make.

Five years or six years from now, if Democrats have control of Congress and the presidency, they could change the law that says all those records that you digitize, send into the federal government, and they have an instant national registration list.

That is exactly what happened.

For law-abiding people, anyway.

That's what happened in the Weimar Republic.

Well, we've already seen California and New York and Connecticut and Chicago places where they've used registration lists that they've already had in order to demand that people turn in guns that they had in those places.

So it's,

you know, I look,

unfortunately, I've come to the belief that they really don't want people to own guns.

And you can see this in lots of ways.

Socialists never do.

Venezuela lost their rights to a gun in 2012.

Right.

And you can see what happened to crime rates afterwards.

And, of course, now people aren't able to defend themselves against the government that's there.

But I'll give you a couple examples.

A few years ago when Colorado was passing its background checks on private transfers, I got a call from some state legislators asking me what amendment I would put up.

And my suggestion was to put up an amendment that would exempt people below the poverty level from having to pay the new state tax on transferring guns.

You think that would be a no-brainer.

But with the exception of two pro-gun Democrats in the state House, every other Democrat voted against exempting people below the poverty level from paying the new state tax.

How many taxes can you think of where Democrats will fight tooth and nail against exempting people below the poverty level from having to pay it?

Look at the bill that they just passed.

You have to do a background check on each gun that's transferred.

Let's say I leave somebody 10 guns.

Rather than just paying one $25 background check and do it all in one lump moment there, they make you have to spend 10 times that.

You have to spend, like, if you're doing a transfer in D.C., you'd have to spend $1,250.

What's the point?

What's the point of counting a separate background check on each gun?

You're doing it on the individual.

Not the

and so, you know, it's just all these little things when you read through there, it's pretty clear that they're just trying to make it costly.

Look,

do you think, John,

the mask has come off of the progressives on

socialism?

You know, when I said socialism, you know, the people in the White House are socialists.

I was called a racist.

And I said at that time, there's going to come a time where they'll take the mask off and say, you're damn right I'm a socialist because this doesn't work.

Do you think we're close to the time when

socialists now in the Democratic Party will stand up and say, you damn right I'm trying to take your gun because guns are dangerous and it won't work.

Right.

Well, I mean you go and you talk to these people and you say every law that they have makes it more costly and there's like no end to the number of laws that they would be willing to push for this.

And,

you know, you have things like red flag laws that are getting passed.

I don't know, it's like 14 states now that have these laws.

It's kind of like the old movie Minority Report, the Tom Cruise movie, where they're trying to predict whether somebody's going to commit commit a crime.

But they don't even list in many of these laws-specific things.

They just, it's kind of like the old definition of pornography.

I'll know it when I see it.

And so you can have a neighbor or a friend or a relative or somebody else go and lodge a complaint, and without any experts, without just simply on the basis that somebody feels that you might possibly be a danger, the judge can go and take away your guns for up to 21 days, depending upon the state.

And all they have to do is meet what's called reasonable cause or probable cause, which reasonable cause is just a little bit more than a hunch that you have it in terms of a standard.

Or they can take away your gun for a year after a hearing.

But it used to be that you'd have to have some experts in this.

And now it's just kind of feelings that people have whether or not I predict.

And I was on a panel for

uniform state laws.

they were considering putting together a model law for this, and they'd have people who are running these laws in different states come in.

And I was saying, well, so how do you predict whether somebody's going to go and commit a crime?

And they'll say, well, we look at their past criminal history.

I say, well, you already have laws on that.

If you're a felon, even if it's a non-violent felon, you lose your right to have a gun.

What they do is they don't want to have specific things.

They want to say, well, if you're arrested, but not convicted, or a complaint, but not even arrest.

And they want to make it so you don't even have to have an

adjudication that you were guilty of something before they can take away your guns.

John, thank you for everything that you do.

Thank you for everything you've done.

You were instrumental in the book, Control.

Well, it's because you're out there and you're able to get this type of information out to people that's...

And you have it all in your head.

Well, I just feel so frustrated because there's so many of these rules that I don't think even a lot of the congressmen that are voting on this understand the implications for these laws.

I agree.

John, thank you so much.

Thank you very much.

You bet.

We'll talk again.

In fact, we've got to do another special on guns and John will be the first that we'll need to invite.

Okay, back in just a minute.

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Stu,

we have a couple of programming changes.

First of all, I can't wait to talk to Bill O'Reilly.

Bill has the woke nightmare.

I know.

Well, we need to talk to him about his article called The Woke Nightmare, where he is talking about how socialism is coming and you need to shut up and sit down.

And now they're looking into reparations for slavery.

So we have to talk about that.

Also, if Bill wouldn't mind vacating the stage a little early,

we have Ted Cruz,

and we can talk to Ted Cruz at the bottom of next hour.

So, and I'm going to go

see the vice president in between.

So, maybe you can take a little bit of Bill O'Reilly, and then I'll come back, talk about the vice president, and then

we'll do some Ted Cruz as well.

Okay.

Sound like a plan?

Yeah, sure.

Whatever you need.

I know it's pretty hectic there.

There's a lot of action.

You're kind of sitting in the middle of everything there, broadcasting.

Yeah, yeah.

And kind of getting the, every time I look out, I kind of get the eye of somebody like, hey, I got to talk to you.

Like,

I'm on the radio right now.

Otherwise, I'll talk later.

But it's actually dynamic here.

It actually feels really good here.

The crowd is young and focused, and I think they're focused on the right things.

People seem to be concerned about the actual loss of rights, and they're not living in this fantasy world of everything's great.

Everything's great.

Which, you know, it is good on many fronts, but I mean, we could lose this in the next 18 months.

Well, I'm glad to to hear that, especially with the news that Jay Inslee is running for president.

Uh, because now when he's in the race, uh, we're, I mean, we really need our energy going because

any moment Jay Inslee could take over the

Inslee over the world and I,

what's his slogan?

Um, who who is Jay Inslee?

Yeah, that is well, that's what people say.

That's what they say his slogan is, it's what they say to him all the time.

Okay, all right, yeah.

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Bill O'Reilly has just written a great, great piece about the progressives and the socialists and what their next plan is.

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The madness continues, and Bill O'Reilly talks about it in one minute.

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I love this from Bill O'Reilly, the woke nightmare.

The media loves them, and Colin Kaepernick would play for them if he could.

They're out of the closet and in your face.

They're on the march, determined to change America into a bright, shining beacon of socialism where white men are guilty and everyone else is a victim.

And he goes into reparations for everybody.

Let's welcome to the program, Bill O'Reilly.

Hello, Bill.

Back, you're in D.C., huh?

I am in D.C.

I gave a speech at CPAC earlier this morning about socialism.

And I can't believe, Bill, where we are.

I made a list yesterday on the air of all of the things that these socialists and Nancy Pelosi and the people who are running for president, I can't think of

something that they haven't wholeheartedly embraced that

America has never been for, with reparations being the latest.

Yeah, because the media used to criticize people who were loons,

and now it doesn't.

So you can,

that's why I say they're out of their closet and in your face because they don't,

if you are an extremist, and certainly the progressive movement has gotten to that territory 10 years ago you

were but not anymore yeah

so they can say what they want do what they want um no criticism from their team and that's what you're seeing

And I think the media is doing them such a grave disservice.

I mean, you know, the media is in on it.

They want it.

But they're doing them such a grave disservice because

no one is checking them.

So I think they believe that they're in touch with the average American.

But when you talk about slave reparations, you talk about killing a baby shortly after birth, you talk about a tax of 70%,

you talk about

universal health care.

I mean, ending capitalism.

The American people are not for that, are they?

No, but you're making a mistake in the sense that you think the media supports all this crazy stuff.

They don't really support it.

The six companies that are running all of the information flow in America, they don't want socialism.

They don't want Disney doesn't want

Mickey to pay 70%

of their ticket receipts at Disney World and Disneyland.

They don't want that.

Okay, but

they have no

problem

embracing this crew

because of Trump.

See, if Trump weren't president, if there were another Republican who wasn't quite as flamboyant, I don't think you would be seeing all this.

But because Trump's in the White House, this has opened the door to madness.

Madness.

And

the American people don't want any of this, and that's why this is actually helping President Trump.

So

I am,

in a way, I'm thrilled that the masks have come off and they finally will just say what they're actually for.

I think that's really good.

The problem, though, is, Bill, if you're right that this is really about Trump, if Trump loses, if the economy goes down or if something happens during the election and he does lose this election, we then have a group of politicians.

I mean, anyone so far that is announced will take us straight line to socialism.

And if they control the House and the Senate and the White House, they will move on these things.

And

it's lights out in two years.

I can't imagine

happening.

I can see Trump losing, but he'd lose to somebody like Biden,

not to somebody like Camilla Harris.

But you don't think

you don't think Biden would move that ball?

But

I think if you look at the abortion poll, for example, after the craziness of Andrew Cuomo and the governor of Virginia, it just flipped.

Most Americans say, you know, enough.

I'm not supporting any of this.

And I think that's what you're going to see.

And if Trump can discipline himself a little bit more, he's now, you know, really, really getting it now.

But just float above it.

And then run your campaign in a methodical way,

got a good chance to win.

I talked to some leadership of some of the biggest voices out there today,

and I don't want to, it was private conversations backstage, and so I don't want to say who said this, but

they are concerned that it is going to be nothing but investigations and smears from here on out,

and which will weaken people from the ability to be able to actually stand up and fight.

Beck, I'm going to ask you a few things that I think you have to pass along to your CPAC pals.

All right?

Here's the first thing.

And I said this on billoreilly.com last night.

If I were President Trump, I would tell all my children and any employee of the Trump organization to take the Fifth Amendment if called in front of Congress.

That is not a fair and impartial body any longer.

It is not a court of law, but you can be prosecuted if

they can trap you into perjury.

Do not say a word.

Sit there like they did in The Godfather and just say, we're not talking because we don't believe this is a fair proceeding.

That'll shut down all of the hysteria off

Cohen.

Secondly, if CPAC does not organize a counter group to the boycotters of Move On, Media Matters, Bonner Group, all of these people, they will lose the culture war.

They've got to be an organized conservative group that can come out and say to Mercedes-Benz, if you pull your sponsorship because these people are threatening you on the far left, we're going to tell our people that you're doing it.

There has to be a central organization from the conservative side in this country to fight the George Soros-funded groups that are running wild,

threatening freedom of speech in this country.

I will tell you, Bill, that I will tell you that that is already, I'm beginning to see that already in action.

People don't know about it yet, but I see that force already

in the late stages of being put together.

All right.

It is.

Gotta happen.

We're gonna take a quick break and then come back with more Bill O'Reilly and Ted Cruz will be joining us as well.

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Bill, I want to get your take on the Cohen hearings this week, because it was a big story this week, and I really want it to go away.

He has now testified, I think, more times than he actually had clients in total.

So

do you take anything of value out of what Michael Cohen did in front of Congress?

Not really.

The man's out for vengeance.

I mean, I think he's weaving a tale that has some truth to some allegations,

but certainly it is tainted evidence, and

it will all go away when the Mueller report comes out.

So once the Mueller report is released, and that rumor is next week we'll know something, that'll override Cohen.

But as I just told Beck,

if

the

Democrats in the House continue to to try to subpoena people to divert away from actually improving the country by passing legislation and wasting everybody's time with this stuff, this will never end.

So all the people on the Trump team have got to say, it's not going to testify.

So go ahead, subpoena, we're going to win.

We have the right to take the fifth and not say anything, and that's what we're going to do.

So that would shut that down.

But do I think that Michael Cohen has any validity to the country today?

No, I don't.

What do you think about the way the media has handled this in that they treated Michael Cohen as

completely untrustworthy and a man with absolutely no credibility through the entire campaign?

They mocked him constantly, which I think honestly was the right thing to do because I never had any faith in Michael Cohen telling the truth about anything.

But now he's suddenly the most credible man in America.

He's basically George Washington in front of Congress.

It's almost impossible to overestimate how disingenuous this stuff is.

But this is not a surprise to anyone that since President Trump took office, they've been trying to get him out of there.

And, you know, there's no downside to the Democratic Party to continue to accuse the President of the United States of anything and everything, every day, every second, every way.

Because they'll

bear people down, which is what they want to do.

May I ask you this, Bill?

The one thing that several Republican senators said during his testimony, and I found this so,

so interesting,

and I'd love to hear your take on this.

They kept saying, this is where you start?

I mean, you usually start an investigation with somebody credible, somebody big, somebody that has something.

He had nothing, and what he did have, he had no credibility to present.

So does this say something about what they do have or

don't in reality?

I mean, you got to feel that, Mueller, whatever the Democrats have, Mueller knows about.

So that'll be put to bed this time.

When we talk a week from today,

we may have the scenario about Donald Trump and what he did or did not do.

But I'll tell you this, when I heard the Cohen stuff,

and I didn't really take him seriously and wasn't going to pay a lot of time to him,

when I heard him say, oh, Trump really didn't want to be president, he was just doing this for his brand.

Remember that?

Remember when he said that?

Yes, yes, yes.

That's a lie.

I mean, I know that personally.

I have had...

dozens of conversations with Donald Trump about policy where he asked me tons of questions.

And why would he do that if he didn't care and he was just campaigning to be president for his brands?

Why would he take away?

So, let me ask you this:

maybe, maybe,

because I believe the truth is somewhere in between.

I think Donald Trump

would have loved to be president, wanted to be president, ran seriously as president, but also created the counter-narrative in his own head

that he was also just doing this as a raising of his profile, which would allow him to lose.

And I'm not sure if in the end,

I mean, he's not delusional.

In the end, I'm not sure he thought this was a lock that he was going to win.

So I could hear him saying to others, you know what, this is a big publicity thing anyway, in his inner circle.

So when and if he did lose, he could say, I never intended on winning anyway.

This is a win for us.

Because that's the kind of world I think that he lives in.

Do you think there's any truth to that?

Yeah, I think that's a look, I'm writing a book on him right now.

Yeah, you can use that.

I mean,

I easily said that in casual conversation.

Well, we don't win.

Look at our brand.

We're the most successful brand in the world now.

Could have said that.

But you don't, on the night before the election, get on a plane and go to Michigan when your people have just told you the internal polling in that state shows you could win, but you got to get there for a midnight rally.

So he gets on playing and come on.

The guy, if you look at his schedule, his campaign schedule, it was twice that of Hillary Clinton.

He worked twice as hard as she did.

So all of this stuff is what they call out of context.

And in my research of the Trump history book, 90%

of the reportage on Donald Trump is out of context,

where there may be a truth and a kernel, but they spin it into this big thing.

And it's just so dishonest.

Look, I'm not in business.

The Trump book is not a pro-Trump book.

There's stuff in there that people are going to go, whoa, I didn't know he did that.

But

if you want to be honest, and I do,

this guy has not got a break from the media or the Democratic Party once,

not once,

since he's declared for the presidency.

I want to switch gears on topics here in just a second, Bill, but before we do, can you give us an outline on when the book is coming out?

In September.

In September?

Do you have a title?

I got about 40% of it done.

Research is churning as it, but it'll be out in September.

It'll be really interesting to read a book about Trump that doesn't come from the I Praise at the Altar of Donald Trump or the I can't stand Donald Trump, he's Satan viewpoint.

There's never been one.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever, I've ever, I can't think of one, that's for sure.

No, there isn't any.

All right, and that's kind of...

That's what makes this book a bear to write is because when I go into the research,

I can't count on it being true.

Can I give you a fast story?

Do we have to...

Yeah, please.

Yeah, you got a couple minutes.

Okay, this will, I think you'll be very interested to hear this.

So, remember that headline,

best sex I ever had, Marla Maples?

Yes, yes.

One of the most famous headlines in American journalism history, right?

Okay.

I tell you exactly where that came from.

Really?

Exactly.

All right?

But in order to do that, in order to get the person who was in the room

when that was given to the New York Post, I had to go through 15 different people.

I finally got her.

I finally got the woman.

Wow.

All right.

Who heard it?

And

the story's in the book.

But it went unbelievable labyrinth.

And the stuff that had been written about that headline was all a bunch of garbage.

But you'll read the truth in the book.

Wow.

I'm looking forward to it.

In September from Bill O'Reilly.

Bill, we got about one more minute here.

Can you give me a minute on North Korea, the breakup of

the meeting, as well as Trump's comments on Otto Warnbier, which are getting some criticism.

Okay.

So Trump's negotiating style is to flatter the person he wasn't even thinking of, poor Otto and his family.

All right.

Flatter, flatter, flatter.

Ingratiate yourself.

They'll be more inclined to see my point of view.

He does that 100% of the time in negotiations.

Okay, number one.

Number two, he underestimated the psychosis of Kim Jong-un.

He's a psychotic.

So he thought he could reason with the man.

The United States put forth a lot of things that would have helped North Korea and Un himself, and Un wouldn't move.

Trump learned a lesson.

They'll squeeze him with sanctions.

Down the line, the army will probably depose Un,

and that's where we are.

Does it make you uncomfortable hearing an American president flatter a person like Kim Jong-un?

You know, maybe it would if it were anybody but Donald Trump, because I know what the guy is doing.

He's always done it,

and he wants the deal.

It's the art of the deal.

So if he has to say BS about somebody in a flattering way, he's going to say it.

Just the way he does business.

Yeah, and he wrote about that in

Art of the Deal.

I mean, he really.

He's been very successful in that kind of a situation, but I feel bad for the WarmbA family.

Yeah.

But I can tell you, he wasn't even thinking about that.

Yep.

Yep.

Okay, Bill O'Reilly from billorilly.com.

You can be a subscriber there and get his commentary every day, as well as the book coming out in September on Donald Trump.

We look forward to it.

Bill, thanks so much for coming on.

Thanks.

Thank you.

All right.

We're going to have more coming up with Glenn at CPAC.

He is, well, he's had all these sort of stepaway meetings as we've gone through the show.

And he's, I'm not sure who he's with now.

He's talked about potentially, might be talking to the vice president at some point today,

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

It's Stu.

Glenn is live at CPAC, and he's got a lot of stuff going on there.

He's going to have, I think, Ted Cruz coming up in a few minutes.

Before we get there, I want to do a little bit more on the wrap-up of

Cohen Mania, which apparently the media is very much involved in.

They love Cohen Mania.

There's nothing better than Michael Cohen.

Michael Cohen is basically the most credible man who's ever lived.

If you open up the Bible throughout, you will see Michael Cohen's name and picture.

You will see him as the example when you go to truth-telling in the dictionary.

No longer is there a story about George Washington in the cherry tree.

Now it's Michael Cohen with the cherry tree.

That is where we are with Michael Cohen.

And some conservatives, if you believe this,

occasionally will accuse the media of getting on a narrative and just going with it.

And they seem like they're all sort of aligned, doing the same thing over and over and over again, no matter what media source you go to.

They repeat themselves.

They make the same points, the same observations over and over and over again.

It's almost as if they're coordinating.

Now, we know they're not coordinating.

I mean, sure, there was a thing called the journal list in which a bunch of liberal journalists would coordinate and talk about these issues offline so no one knew about it until it was leaked.

But that's not what's happening here.

This is just everyone having the exact same point at the same time.

Listen to this and tell me if you can find a common thread in this Michael Cohen coverage.

It's a very, very explosive hearing.

Michael Cohen delivers explosive testimony.

Potentially explosive.

Explosive day here on the Hill.

His testimony revealing explosive.

There are some explosive claims.

Explosive hearing.

Today's hearing was explosive.

Michael Cohen's explosive testimony.

Explosive.

It's explosive.

Explosive.

Explosive.

Explosive.

Explosive.

Explosive.

Explosive.

As explosive as it gets.

Explosive testimony.

Explosive testimony.

Explosive testimony.

Explosive nine hours, and we expect another explosive day of explosive claims.

That is a rather explosive allegation.

Truly explosive public testimony.

Pretty explosive material.

One explosive revelation after another.

Explosive claims.

Explosive allegations.

Explosive testimony.

Explosive public testimony.

It's explosive after his explosive and explosive chain of events.

Very explosive.

I suspect it's going to become even more explosive.

I suspect it as well.

The coverage of that explosive coverage from Washington Free Beacon, as they noticed that seemingly everybody thinks that was explosive.

I don't know, was it?

Was Michael Cohen's hearing explosive in any way?

These were all...

accusations that were largely made beforehand, with the exception of a few second or thirdhand reports that were solely based on Michael Cohen's word, which, if you know how much, if you're following the currency markets on Michael Cohen's word, it's currently worth $0,

$0.

So that is where we are with Michael Cohen.

You know it's going down this road.

I was interested to see this battle between...

Can we do the audio of the two NBC guests talking about Mark Meadows and Lynn Patton?

Because Mark Meadows, a conservative congressman,

brought Lynn Patton, who is someone who works African-American, who happens to work for the Trump administration.

Everyone's calling Trump racist all the time.

So there was

a situation where Lynn Patton came in and was kind of a little bit of a character witness for the president, saying, you know, I deal with him all the time.

He's not a racist.

Here's what MSNBC had to say about the interaction.

On an auction block and say, look at my black friend.

Look at her.

That means that the president isn't racist.

Was the epitome of racism.

Are you serious?

Is she the black ambassador for the entire race?

No.

Because one person out of his entire cabinet, out of his entire staff is there as the black person that this is who you bring up.

The fact that he thought that that was going to be like a got you moment is incredible to me.

It would be incredible.

Yeah, it would.

Well, two things, really.

First of all, it's important to put Mark Meadows into context.

He's the man that said, and there's video for this, that we're going to send Barack Obama back to Kenya.

that's what he said in 2012 so let's just frame it right there so for him to try to say he's not a racist or has racial insensitivity is ridiculous on his face secondly as a black woman and as a Republican woman my entire life who served on that very committee that we watched on TV yesterday as the first black person ever to work on that committee on the GOP side I was horrified and appalled at my party for not participating in their constitutional duty to ask questions and secondly to bring a black woman out, shame on Lynn, first of all, for agreeing to do it.

But to bring a black woman out and have her stand there like she was on the auction block, thank you.

And she couldn't talk, she couldn't speak, you couldn't swear her in.

And there's this visual exhibit A, American people.

There's a black person here.

And we have a black person who can't tell you what she thinks.

We'll tell you how she feels.

And that'll prove that Donald Trump's not a racist is the most ridiculous, ludicrous thing I've seen the Republican Party do in a really long time.

And that's saying a lot.

You know, it is saying a lot, isn't it?

I love how, if you are a right-thinking African-American, it is totally fine for you to tell the wrong-thinking African-American what they're allowed to believe, what they're allowed to do.

Because Lynn Patton has a lot of experience with Donald Trump, she doesn't think he's a racist, and for her to be a character witness for him is not allowed because she has the wrong think for African Americans.

She has the wrong way to understand how the world works.

This guest on MSNBC has the right way.

She knows what black people must think.

She has determined what black people must think and is informing Lynn Patton where she can and cannot walk during a day.

That's okay.

That is completely fine.

However, Lynn Patton can't speak up for herself and decide to say, you know what, you keep saying this stuff about this person I've had a long relationship with.

You don't know what you're talking about.

She went on Laura Ingram last night and

made her case.

Here is Lynn Patton on Laura Ingram's program.

I was never there to represent my entire race.

I was there to represent one man.

One man who, by the way, has done more for the black community than the last probably three presidents combined.

I mean, not only has he just created an urban council that's funneling $100 billion of capital through opportunity zones into urban and rural communities, but he's also given more money to historically black colleges and universities than the last administration.

He's given more money for public housing than the last administration.

He's given,

you know, he just passed the most comprehensive prison reform bill in three decades.

None of it matters, Lynn.

None of it matters to me.

None of it matters.

So look, she, you know, there's a lot of things you could say about about the president

with the African-American community.

The unemployment rate is historic lows.

There's a lot of real positives there.

I would caution a little bit here.

There's a little bit of caution we should bring to this conversation.

We've seeded a lot of ground over the last few years when it comes to these debates, particularly on identity politics.

There's a lot of ground being seeded in that comment.

And Lynn Patton has the right to say whatever she thinks is most important.

And, you know, she wants to be a character witness for Donald Trump.

That is completely her right.

And you can criticize her on points, but to act as if, as a black woman, she's not allowed to do that is completely insane.

So to get that out of the way.

That being said, I, as a conservative,

do not want to walk down this line where we define whether someone is racist or not based on the idea of how much money they've given to giant government programs that I would argue are completely ineffective.

You know, I don't want to get, if the, if the standard is going to be, well, he created an urban council,

he's giving more money to black colleges, he's giving more money to public housing.

These are not the, this is not how you measure racism.

Because a lot of these

programs should be

cut down.

Less money should go to them, not because we don't like African Americans or any other race, but because they're ineffective and government should stop expanding.

It should start decreasing in size.

And we run into problems when we seed the ground of,

well, the only way to not be a racist is to dump a bunch of money into government programs.

I think I understand Lynn's point here, which is to say, if he was a racist, would he be giving money to black colleges?

I get that.

However,

that's a lot of ground to cede in an argument.

And when we're supposed to be the party that's supposed to shrink government, we want to make sure that that line is held.

And we're going to be in these constant identity politics debates for a long time.

We better find out the right way to argue them.

I will say this: when you get into identity politics and you run your party based on them, as the Democrats do, you run into some issues.

For example, Kamala Harris,

new material.

She's running as a black presidential candidate.

This is a big part of her identity.

She wants you to know it.

One minor problem here.

She apparently is a descendant of slave

owners.

Apparently, and this is written up by her father, we are finding out in a publication, Jamaica Global Online.

He's a professor at Stanford University.

He talks about in an essay, he was a descendant of slave owners.

Not slaves, but slave owners.

Not sure how that plays in the Democratic primary, but we'll find out soon.

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who started as an intern, then became my assistant, then went to become a producer, then left the nest, and now has got his own show on Blaze TV.

And you're the White House correspondent.

Welcome to John Miller.

I like that.

That's crazy.

That is crazy.

Yeah, it is crazy.

Yeah.

So, John,

you just told me an amazing story.

For anybody, if you're listening on the radio, John is black

and has been kind of, well, I just have to alert them that you're black.

You do.

So, yeah, yeah.

You got woke points for that, too, by the way.

Yeah, I know.

I'm alerting people of that because of the story that you just told me.

So, we were outside, we were in Washington, D.C.

Who's we?

Joel Patrick, and I'm with Joel Patrick, who is here.

He's decked out for you.

It's a visual, which if you were watching, you'd be able to see.

He has a Make America Great Again beanie, also a Make America Great Again hoodie.

So you are, you know, walking around DC, you're not exactly

a favorite.

But I was walking with this guy.

We were going to get lunch and in D.C.

in Washington, D.C.

went to a food truck.

There's a street and a bunch of trucks offer food to people.

And we went to one truck.

Waited in line for about 20 minutes and the guy just ignored us completely and wouldn't look at us wouldn't make eye contact.

We were trying to get get his attention.

And Joel kept on saying to me, I think it's because of my outfit.

I think it's because I'm wearing a Make America Gradygan hat.

And I was thinking, no, and about 10 minutes, I was like, that can't be possibly it.

Then 15 minutes, and then 20 minutes, the guy would not look at us.

So finally, we're just like, okay, well, it's clear he's discriminating against us, which is not a good look when two black guys are standing outside of a truck trying to get food from the other.

I mean, how very lunch counter of this woke

individual.

And

so we went to get a different food truck.

We went to get food from another food truck.

The minute we left, they started serving other people.

And I was like the best person in me was trying to think, oh, it's not because he must be busy.

No, the minute we went to another food truck, he asked the next person, what can I get you?

So how does that make you feel?

By the way, hello, Joel.

How are you?

Hey, how are you?

Good.

You're an online blogger?

Yeah, I just say social media personality.

Okay, all right, whatever.

And

how's that make you feel?

Well, I mean, I was offended.

You know, we were there.

We were going to spend spend money with him.

And apparently, to him, it was more important to him that he exercised his political views than he made money, which

it's amazing.

I paraphrased in my speech this morning, I paraphrased Martin Luther King.

I said, judge me by the content of my character, not the color of my skin or the color of my hat.

I mean, we're judging people now by their hat.

And it's incredible.

I mean, the people who are claiming we are the victims, the Jesse Smallets, who are saying we are being victimized by Trump supporters, they are the victimizers.

They are the one who are, they are victimizing Trump supporters.

They are victimizing conservatives.

And it's at the point where it's people wearing red hats who have to be careful in the streets.

So, you guys are both,

you know, both a lot younger than I am.

By a few years.

Yeah.

And we're, by the way, we're going to get to Ted Cruz here in just a minute.

If I can squeeze in Selita Zito, I just saw Selena a minute ago.

But

what do you guys think is the problem that we have to address as Americans?

What is the thing we have to fix?

Definitely abortion.

Abortion?

I don't think you can make a justifiable argument for why it's okay to murder a child.

And they want to talk about how they care about the children in cages and children at the border.

Well, why not care about children in the womb?

Right.

Why not care about children who have just left the woman?

We're not talking about children in the womb anymore.

We're talking about children who have left the womb.

It's infanticide.

And it's incredible.

And then that, and, you know, it's incredible that the Democrats are not standing up for it.

I mean, you know, we were at a point where, you know, most Democrats would say, well, you know, late-term abortion, third trimester, you know, we're against that.

Let's not get crazy.

Now we're at the point where they're not even standing against post-birth abortion, which you can even call it abortion.

John, you were with me when I was talking about they're going to take their masks off and they're going to finally say, yeah, damn right, I'm a socialist.

We talked about infanticide and how that's how Germany started it.

And here we are.

And it was only the babies who were unfit.

You know, we were It was the babies who have issues that we have.

Compassionate reasons.

And that's what they're doing now, which is just, it's scary.

And we're at the point with the socialists in government where I was at the point where I was like, well, do we take Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Do we make sure that, I mean, is she a joke?

Do we make fun of her?

No.

Now we can't.

She has power.

She has them in her palm.

Yeah.

Even though she has those crazy hypno eyes.

That might be what it is.

That might be freemanizing the entire caucus with her eyes.

I think so.

John, great to see you.

Good to Joel,

great to meet you.

How do you follow you on Instagram?

Joel Patrick underscore 1776.

Okay, good.

And John Miller, you can find him at the Blaze.

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Blaze TV and in the White House briefings, the sane one in the White House briefings.

Thanks, John.

Thanks, bud.

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He spoke about the border.

I'm sensing the room really feels more about socialism

today, but we have so many things that we must take care of.

The border is one of them.

Another one is abortion that I hear a lot of people talking about as well.

Ted Cruz has an interesting plan for the border, and it's actually one I'm a huge fan of.

I don't know how...

I suppose this is, Stu, this would be totally legal, right?

I mean, this would be

the way that Ronald Reagan intended the law of asset forfeiture, right?

Yeah, I mean, Ted obviously knows the law better than most people.

He'll be able to walk you through it.

And my understanding is there is a window there if people would actually get together and vote.

If you care about the border, El Chapo, a good reason why you should care about the border.

Right.

It's an interesting proposal.

And his proposal, he is walking up.

He just keeps getting stopped by people.

He is walking up even as we speak.

His proposal is that we take the assets of

El Chapo and get them to

use those to build the wall.

Ted, how are you?

Good to see you, brother.

Good to see you.

We were just talking about, I love your idea of El Chapo paying for the wall.

Love it.

Well, it is simple common sense.

It is let's use money criminally forfeited from El Chapo, from other drug lords, the billions that they made illegally trafficking across the border, and let's fund and pay for the wall.

He could pay really, his assets would pay for all of it, wouldn't they?

Potentially, if we could track them all down and find them, they would.

How much do you think we could actually track down?

Well, where the idea came from is this is a little over a year ago when we were debating the wall and Democrats were complaining it costs too much.

Right.

Now, set aside, I think Democrats have never in the history of the universe thought anything costs too much.

I know, I know.

But at the time, the estimates for the cost of the wall were between $14 and $20 billion.

At the very same time, the Department of Justice estimates that El Chapo's global criminal net worth is about $14 billion.

And so I saw a natural and even elegant symmetry.

Well, that's what asset forfeiture is supposed to be for.

Right.

And mind you, this is criminal asset forfeiture.

It's not civil forfeiture, which has been abused many times.

This is after, in El Chapo's case, he has 10 criminal convictions.

And look, it's just like if

a drug dealer in Dallas has a Ferrari, and he gets convicted of being a drug dealer, they seize the Ferrari.

That's criminal forfeiture.

In this case, El Chapo's got a lot more than a Ferrari.

And there's a justice to using the billions that he made trafficking across our border illegally to prevent the next narco-trafficker from doing the same.

So Mike Pence was just speaking here and he just said, we are going to build the wall.

Mark my words, the wall will be built.

Do you agree with that?

I do agree with that.

It is going to happen.

We're going to get the job done.

And I commend the President for standing up and leading in this act.

How is he going to do it?

Well,

so there's a lot of focus on the emergency declaration.

And your stance on that is...

Well, let's take it one at a time.

I don't know what's going to happen in the Senate on that.

It is going to be a vigorous discussion the next couple of weeks.

But the good news is, regardless of what happens on that, the wall is going to be built.

Why?

So the president said and DHS said they need $5.7 billion.

Well let's do a little bit of math.

And I'm sorry I know math is terrible for radio so hard.

I know that's all right.

But let's do a little bit anyway.

Congress appropriated $1.4 billion.

Available free and clear.

Nobody disputes to build the wall.

That can build about 50 miles worth of wall.

Beyond that, the president has announced that he is going to take about $600 million in drug forfeiture money that he has and use that to build the wall.

That takes you to $2 billion and nobody disputes.

He has clear, indisputable legal authority to do that.

Beyond that, there's a second provision.

It's called 10 U.S.C.

says Section 284 that gives the Defense Department the ability

to

expend funds to stop narco-traffickers, to stop drug trafficking, and in particular, and it explicitly says in statute to build fences and border barriers.

And so that's in the U.S.

Code.

So

why are we even debating this national emergency thing?

It is a very good question.

The fund that that statute applies to has about $4 billion in it.

The administration has announced they're going to take $2.5 billion from that.

So that takes you to about $4.4, $4.5.

If they took another $1.2 from that fund, we'd be at 5.7, we'd be done, and you wouldn't need a penny from the emergency declaration that's causing this big fight.

How do you feel about the emergency declaration?

You know, at this point, I'm still, I'm reviewing the legal authorities, I'm reviewing the arguments from the administration.

I agree that the border is a crisis.

I've seen it firsthand.

You and I have been down on the border together.

It is a crisis.

People's lives are being taken.

And all of the Democrats and media folks that are saying, oh, it's not a crisis.

It's not a big deal.

They claimed it was a

humanitarian crisis when Obama was in.

It is.

Yes.

That being said, as you know, I'm a constitutionalist.

I believe every president, Republican or or Democrat, has to follow the Constitution and follow the laws.

So I'm studying the laws carefully on that.

And we're having right now in the Senate a vigorous debate.

My hope of where we end up in the outcome is, number one, we build the wall and we get every penny of the $5.7 billion that the president says we need to build the wall.

But number two, I hope we don't set a precedent for the next Democratic president to abuse executive power and declare emergencies

and gun control and health care and what have you.

So I was just talking to Bill O'Reilly last hour, and he said, I said, Bill, we are on the edge.

Everything that you've talked about, everything I've talked about for the last 15, 20 years, it's here now.

And we could see a socialist

president,

Senate, and

House, and they'll take it.

They will shut it down.

It's their turn.

They believe in what they're talking about.

Correct.

And they're that nutty.

I mean, what has happened to the Democratic Party is

both frightening and really dangerous for this country.

It's not good for one of the two major parties in this country to get so extreme and so out of touch with the American people.

I've never seen anything move so fast.

If we don't get the destruction of life,

we're not talking about abortion anymore.

We're talking about infanticide.

We don't get that right.

The creation of life through AI.

And the socialist thing, it's lights out.

Look, the Democratic Party, they are now the party of late-term abortion and infanticide.

They are now the party of open borders.

Not only do they oppose security in the border, they're now, their presidential candidates are saying, tear down what border walls we have.

And abolish ICE.

Abolish ICE.

They're now the party of socialism and 70%

tax rates.

Right.

Plus, reparations now, they're talking about.

They're seriously talking about reparations.

They're now the party that chased Amazon out of New York City because they didn't want 25,000 jobs, and then they attacked Amazon on the way out the door.

This is unhealthy.

This is extreme.

You take this Green New Deal, which every one of the Democratic presidential candidates is falling all over themselves to support.

The Green New Deal, it's incoherent on its face, but if you actually take it at face value,

it would ban every airplane on Earth.

It would ban every automobile on Earth.

It would kill every cow.

But beyond that, though, if you actually read the bill, which I know you have, it says clearly to change our financial structure and our system to a system that is revolved around social justice.

Well, that's the end of capitalism.

That's the end of the free market.

And look, all of this is driven fundamentally.

The Democrats are a party of hatred right now.

The unifying theme in the Democratic Party is they hate Donald Trump.

And that burning, blinding emotion has driven out common sense, has driven out reason.

Everything is justified because Trump.

That's dangerous for our country.

It is.

It is.

Ted, great to see you.

Thank you very much.

All right.

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We're going to be joining him here again in just a couple of minutes.

There's some big news, and I think you're going to be very excited to hear about it.

You've been looking for someone to vote for, and finally, you have Jay Inslee.

Mmm.

I know I'm excited about the future.

Jay Inslee is the governor of Washington.

He has jumped into the 2020 White House race today,

and he is running a race.

He's kind of running one of these one-issue races.

He's seen as the climate guy, the guy who's going to prioritize climate over everything else.

And

I guess he thinks, you know, we see these races run every once in a while.

If you go back to, I think it was 2008, like a Tom Tan Credo, remember him and Duncan Hunter both ran as kind kind of a,

mostly talking almost exclusively about the border.

And that was their big, their big issue.

So a lot of people called it a one-issue campaign.

I think you can make the same argument about Lindsey Graham in 2016, who basically, I mean, he never had a chance of winning, but he wanted to talk about Middle East relations and war issues and defense issues.

They weren't at the top of everybody's mind, so he gets on the debate stage.

He gets to bring those things up.

That seems to be what Jay Inslee is doing here.

Now, he's a governor of a state.

That's usually a good path to the White House.

It's much, usually, historically, a much better path to the White House than trying to do it through the Senate or the House.

Only recently, obviously, we saw Obama win from the Senate, Trump obviously winning from sort of a celebrity status.

But before that, you had Bush was a governor, you had Clinton was a governor, Reagan was a governor.

It's a good path to get to the White House, typically.

Inslee is the first governor to enter the race, and that's somewhat notable, but his platform, I just don't see how it works.

He wants to accelerate

a 100%

clean energy and net zero emissions economy with plans targeting electricity, transportation, buildings, industry, and agriculture.

Now, even if you're going to run on this, you've kind of had the wind taken out of your sails because Ocasio-Cortez has already proposed the new Green Deal, and that's essentially what Inslee is running on here.

But one of the things you'll never

they never lick to cover in the media is how important climate change is to Americans.

You know, they all say we're going to die within 12 years.

The earth is over within 12 years.

It's a non-stop

horror show of fiery floods if we get past a decade or so.

And that decade always stands pat.

Wherever you are in the timeline, it's always a decade in the future.

There's still enough time to act so you can give us all of your freedom to do this.

But if it's not too much time, you better do it right now.

Act now.

And it's an infomercial pitch, is essentially what it is.

But he wants to do this.

Listen, even with that infomercial pitch, what is the priority of global warming in the United States?

You're not going to be surprised to hear it's behind the economy, healthcare, and education.

So it, well, and also terrorism.

So you have economy, healthcare, education, terrorism, and then social security and Medicare.

So you have those, economy, healthcare, costs, education, terrorism, social security, Medicare, and then, of course,

the poor.

And then the environment.

So there you go.

Well, it's not the...

It's not global warming.

It's just the environment other than global warming.

They're specifically broken apart into two categories.

So no part of the environment would actually be global warming in this particular poll.

So it's behind the environment as well and behind immigration.

Now stop for a second and remember that the

emergency declaration talks that we've had over the past few weeks have largely been based on the democratic side, not because of executive power, which are my concerns of it and whether it's constitutional or not.

They've been talking about how there's not a crisis on the border.

Well, the American people quite clearly think immigration immigration is a larger crisis than global warming.

And poll after poll after poll after poll, they rate it as a higher priority.

So after immigration, finally you get to jobs, which is, so it's, it's economy, healthcare costs, education, terrorism, social security, Medicare, poor and needy, environment, immigration, and jobs.

And finally, of course, reducing crime and drug addiction.

But then, of course, then the budget deficit and then race relations and then the military.

So that's it.

You have economy, healthcare costs, education, terrorism, social security, Medicare, poor and needy, environment, immigration, jobs, reducing crime, drug addiction, budget deficit, race relations, and the military all ahead of climate change.

Oh, and one more thing.

Also, transportation.

You know, I got my Ubers are taking too long to get here.

Oh, and then also global warming.

You know, I've noticed there's not a nice bike lane for me to get to work.

Oh, and then also global warming.

Where are the cup holders in this car?

And also global warming.

This is how low this is for a priority for the American people.

It's not even in the top three or four for Democrats.

So maybe this will be effective to bring this issue to the table.

But it's kind of interesting as you look at the sort of plethora of issues we're seeing now from the Democrats.

Are they going to be

connected with the American people?

They're running this race like the socialists, many of them are.

And while that's good for honesty and it's good for the American people and voters to know it, I don't know how it's a winning strategy for Democrats.

I think they think Trump is so unpopular that they can run anybody and win.

And I don't know if you recognize this approach.

It's called Hillary Clinton 2016.

This was the entire theory behind Hillary Clinton 2016.

Hey, you know what we can run?

Anything.

Put Hillary up there.

She'll even win.

And she didn't.

So this is a very risky strategy being thrown out there right now.

We still don't have Joe Biden in the race, but we have now 13 people in the race for the Democratic nomination.

Now, the Republicans last time got to 17, so there's a little room to grow.

Biden, we do expect, to come in.

There's been reports that he has offered jobs now to people in New Hampshire and Iowa.

We do expect that in the next few weeks.

I still expect Betto to get in.

A little surprised he's not in already, so maybe that'll change.

There's a few other names that have been tossed around that still might jump in, but we could get up above the 17.

One other thing I want to point your attention to from the Jay Inslee

campaign pitch, and I know this is probably the only time we'll ever talk about Jay Inslee, so let's get this out of the way.

One of the things he is prioritizing is potentially the biggest risk that comes out of this election, which if you think about it this way,

let's just say any one of these Democrats wins the presidency in 2020.

It's possible.

I don't know if the odds necessarily favor it.

I mean, if you look at the betting markets, they think there's about a 65% chance Democrats are going to win in 2020.

Now, we've seen the way these things work out.

They're not always right.

We're way too far ahead of this election for any of this stuff to even be mildly

influential in the way that you're thinking.

But as of right now, they think that's certainly possible.

And in any two-person race, one of the two can win.

That's what makes this so dangerous if a socialist runs.

If people are just thinking, ah, well, I I don't want to vote for Trump, whether it's because of the economy or they just don't like the guy or whatever it is, you could get a real leftist coming in.

If you go down this road and you say, if a Democrat were to win in 2020,

in addition to that, there's no way they're going to win the presidency and lose the House.

Like, that's not going to happen.

They already have the House.

Most likely, they would expand their advantage in the House, which leaves you with the Senate.

Now,

it's a 53-47 Senate the way it is right now.

Democrats have a slight structural advantage going into 2020.

Republicans had a big advantage in 2018.

So

this bounces around.

There's six-year terms.

So sometimes you're defending a lot of seats that are already red seats.

Sometimes you're going after a lot of blue seats.

This one is one of those situations where there's a lot of purplish states that have Republicans as senators that are vulnerable.

So let's just say, I mean, again, it would be very unlikely the Democrats would win the presidency and not take over the Senate.

That gives them control of all three, and you'll say, well,

they still have the filibuster to stop anything.

They're not going to get to 60 votes, which is true.

They're not going to get to 60 Democratic votes.

Here is one of Inslee's main focuses.

He says,

one of the top priorities of his run is to kill the Senate filibuster.

Democrats will embrace this if they get in and have control of all three, and they will pass sort of their wish list of craziness.

So get ready for it.

One of the big wish list items when it comes to the Green New Deal and the Democratic candidates are trains all over America.

They want to go back to the 1900s in the worst possible way, the early 1900s, with trains everywhere.

We'll show you how ridiculous that is and how bad it gets coming up in just a moment.

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One of the amazing things we're seeing right now is

this sort of popping up of socialism in a time where you're seeing the results of socialism so clearly in Venezuela and other places.

And I always find that to be very very strange, how something can become popular right at the moment it's being shown it's a failure.

Another example of this is the Green New Deal.

Part of the literature around the Green New Deal includes this, totally overhauling transportation by massively expanding electric vehicle manufacturing, building charging stations everywhere, and building out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary.

Create affordable public transit available to all with the goal of replacing every combustion engine vehicle.

Now, I can't even describe.

I don't even know.

There's not even a number of trains that would, no, there's no number of trains on earth that could make air travel stop becoming necessary.

It's just air travel is better than train travel in every way, in almost every single circumstance.

But it's amazing to see that now they're pushing for high-speed rail all over the country, while at the same time, sort of the marquee attempt at giving high-speed rail to an area that can use it was already approved many years ago and is in the middle of one of the most catastrophic collapses in public history.

In California, they promised a high-speed rail to take you, I think it was from what, Los Angeles or San Diego all the way to San Francisco.

And we've seen it's become a huge disaster.

I want to walk you through how this has gone so far with Eric Christian.

He's the executive director of the Coalition for Fair Employment.

Eric, welcome to the program.

Stuart, good to be with you again, brother.

Greetings from the People's Republic of California, where no dream is too big and no cost is too great to achieve that dream.

It's true.

Whether the dream is a nightmare or not is not material in this particular conversation.

It's about the intention, yeah, absolutely.

Eric has been basically the guy who has has been fighting against this train from the very beginning.

Can you take us kind of through how this thing started and all of the cost estimates?

And take us through this story, because it really is an amazing journey.

Well, just to be clear, I have been a guy fighting this, not even close to being the guy.

There are a group of farmers and citizens down in the Central Valley that have really

been fighting this with their wallets, with their daily, you know, lives devoted towards stopping this government grab of their land, of their businesses,

fighting it in violation of the law that was passed by the people of California in

10 years ago that approved an initial $10 billion in funding for the concept of what would be known as high-speed rail taking people from San Diego to San Francisco in 3.2 seconds.

actually it was about two hours

it passed narrowly and since then it's been all downhill

it's it's basically been all downhill since then and what we have now is a project that has grown from what they estimated we have would be about sixty billion dollars it's now approaching a hundred billion we know it'll be much more because all these projects always are as studies have shown

and what we're finding out is happening is it it's receiving in just the past two months it's received three significant

blows the first was the Gridley Warren

report that showed that instead of actually paying for itself the reason you don't have any private investment which the authors promised there would be if we approved this is because they understand there's not going to be this isn't going to be a money-making operation and sure enough this grinley Warren report shows that, in fact, it's going to have to be massively subsidized because nobody's going to want to sit in a train for nine hours from Merced and head over to the Bay Area or from Bakersfield to the Bay Area, spend nine hours of their day on a train doing that.

Nobody's going to do that.

And since they've already admitted that it's not going to be going from San Diego, let alone Los Angeles, up to the Bay Area, they're starting it in the middle of the Central Valley because who doesn't want to take a train from Madeira to Fresno?

I mean, that's really where the population of California is, right?

If you look at travel books, I mean, that is the ultimate dream of any traveler.

That trip does.

That's the ultimate California dream, right up in Central Valley.

But since nobody's going to want to do that, this report showed that it's going to have to be massively subsidized, which is in violation of the law that was passed.

The second thing that happened was that Governor Newsom, as liberal as he is and as far left as he is, he had a moment of honesty in his state of the state speech,

which he called to question the whole concept of a San Diego to San Francisco line.

He said, Look, let's be real, this isn't going to happen.

There aren't the resources for it.

It's already massively over budget behind schedule.

So let's just finish up what we've started and then we'll see where we are.

Well, he immediately got blowback from the trade unions, which have a project labor agreement on this, making it a union-only project, of course, because nobody benefits from government large S like special interest groups do.

They know how to latch on.

And in California, there's nobody at the tit of government like labor unions.

They really take the cake when it comes to that.

So they gave him some blowback and he was forced to backtrack a wee bit, but he did have a moment of clarity there.

The third thing that happened was on February 19th, the Federal Railroad Administration sent the state of California a letter saying and listing out in four succinct bullet points exactly why they were revoking their cooperative agreement that they had with the state

because it's violating the law that was passed by the people in any number of ways.

It's over budget.

It's behind schedule.

It's not, in fact, going to adhere to

the timeliness that it said it was going to get people from place to place.

So they're essentially taking almost a billion dollars back now and threatening to withhold it four days from now.

Four days from now,

California is going to lose lose that billion dollars that's very much needed just to keep the current scheme that they have going going.

So, these are three big blows to something that, again, was initially approved by the voters because it sounded really super,

really super duper.

And it's gone downhill since then because, as we've learned, you know, in Texas, you're doing it the right way.

You're doing it with private investment where you have market forces being brought to bear that cuts out the nonsense and the lying and forces people to have to be accountable.

Here in California, we're doing it where it's a government-only project and

it's getting government-only results.

You know, it's like the DMV and the post office on steroids and the results are predictable.

So that's kind of where we are

in a nutshell.

And by the way, most Californians are showing opposing this now.

Of course.

Most people oppose the project now.

Of course.

And this is the problem

with the way that this happens.

You know, 51% of of people vote for something, whether it's realistic or not, and it gets approved.

I mean, going back to this, because

the initial approval had

certain requirements that had to be met by this train.

I think it was two hours or so from San Diego to San Francisco.

Correct.

They have now admitted, right, that there's no chance that that's possible.

They also said it was going to cost about $60 billion.

It was just $10 billion when they voted on it, but then it was $60 billion.

It was then up to $100 billion, and it's going to to be even higher than that.

It was promised that there would be no subsidizing once they got the thing built.

We now know it's not going to pay for itself.

There's been no private investment

that was

promised.

It seems like California writes these laws and these initiatives, and they think if they write it in the form of a law, it will become reality.

Like there's some magic trick that happens to physics

when a legal thing is passed and the state says it's going to happen.

That mindset is got to be just killing the budget of California.

Well,

my wife has a saying.

My wife commands 5 Air Force Squadron.

She's a colonel.

And

she

is in charge of a lot of people who are the tip of the sword right now in the fight against terrorism.

And she has not a lot of time for bovine scatology when it comes to BS, as we like to call it, when it comes to, you know, we need to get the job done.

How do we do it?

And one of their operating principles is, you know, okay, you have a plan, you have a step that you wish to take, but what are the second and third and fourth order effects?

What is going to happen as a result of that?

You know, don't just say we're going to do this and this is going to be achieved.

You have to understand, you know, when they plan this, do you really think the airlines are not going to adjust their fares and lower them in order to keep the market share that they have to keep people from riding trains?

There was no assumption of that based in the model that the government created in developing this.

And that's the problem with government planning, is there's never any understanding of second and third order effects.

There's never any contemplation that the market will somehow bend and adapt to try and keep their market share, in this case, the airlines or car makers who are going to still want to sell cars in the state.

And all of their assumptions, as soon as pen is put to paper, are out the window because they just aren't based on reality.

They aren't based on real market realities.

And that's what's so frustrating about living in California is, as I kind of quipped when I opened up your segment,

no dream is too big and no cost is too great to achieve those dreams.

And

it really is,

you know, it really is the fact.

One thing I don't understand, and you mentioned this before, that, you know, look, it's approved largely because it sounds cool.

It would be cool to have a cool train and we could take that up the coastline.

That would be great.

But I mean,

they're fine, right?

But like, if you watch the documentary series Back to the Future, they go on a train in the one they go in reverse in time.

It's 1885 when they're on a train.

We have planes, we planes get you faster from a big location to another big central location.

Cars get you faster, and buses even get you there to a specific location more efficiently.

This, why this obsession with trains, this old technology that, yes, it moves a little bit faster than it used to, but it's still tying two

set locations to each other.

When populations move, there's very little you can do about it except spend another hundred billion dollars to go to the new place.

It just is completely inefficient, and we have this weird fascination with trains.

Isn't it weird how progressives seem to always view the future as having to go back to 19th century technology, be it solar or be it well, in solar's case, let's early 1 BC technology,

wind power trains.

It's very, very strange.

Newer technologies to give us power we need, like nuclear, which would do away with essentially CO2 output.

They don't want to have anything to do with that.

Nope.

But they want us to be on solar and wind, which if it's cloudy and there's no wind, you're in trouble.

And when it comes to transportation, let's be honest, and this is getting, you know, from a more macro 30,000-foot level, why, the question, why?

And I really think at the end of the day, it's about control.

It's about wanting to control people's movements the automobile really ushered in an area of freedom it's only been about a hundred years where this has been something that humans have been able to do because our country is so large it's been unique to America in the sense that we really have these vast wide open spaces that we're able to travel around freely you know it's like for the line from red october where uh where um

you know, the captain is speaking to a second in command and he's talking about when they defect, you know, he wants to live in Montana and he says,

you know,

I want to travel from state to state.

No papers required, right?

And and

Ramos,

the captain played by Sean Connery, goes, no papers needed.

Because

in the Soviet Union, of course, they needed papers to travel everywhere.

And I think the left, ultimately, it's about control and trains.

You can control your point A to point B.

Of course, the second and third order effect question is, okay, when I get to point B, how do I get to where I'm going?

How do I get to my house?

How do I get to my place of business?

Horror copper?

It really is amazing.

Eric, I've never thought of it that way from a control perspective.

That's really interesting.

I wish we had more time.

We're out of it.

I want to get, you know, we should also at some point get talk again about what the Trump administration is trying to do, taking back a bunch of this money as well.

But we'll get into that next time.

Eric Christian, the Executive Director of the Coalition for Fair Employment and Construction.

Thanks so much, Eric.

Bye.

Bye-bye.

I never thought of it that way.

That is a great point.

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You know, I know this is going to make the authors of the Green New Deal a little bit upset, and I know it's controversial, but you need to remember that trains suck.

They suck.

They're ancient technology.

Why do we want to go back to them and build them all over the place for these ridiculous costs?

It's like

planes are faster.

The prices are

about equal for a lot of this stuff.

And it's like, I don't understand the fascination with trains.

We always want to spend billions and billions of dollars on trains.

Why?

I had to ride trains in New York.

They're not that glorious.

They're not that spectacular.

If they hadn't already been built, they would never be built now that we have airplanes.

And now that we have cars.

And people say, oh, well, we have to have some way of mass transportation on the roads.

That's what buses are.

Buses can go from one place to another, and you know what?

If the population starts to move, they can just change it.

They can just take turns with their wheel and go to the new place.

Oh, well, buses, they're just gross.

I mean, I don't want to ride a bus.

Oh, I'm sorry, Mr.

Elitist.

You don't want to ride a bus because trains are so nice.

With the $100 billion you save from not building the train, you can make the buses nice.

You can plate them in gold.

You can put a coal-fired pizza oven in each one that serves delicious fresh pizza on every trip.

You can have Taylor Swift pop out from behind every seat and give you a neck massage for $100 billion.

There's a lot of things you can do.

Oh, there's homeless people on the bus and they smell.

Make the buses disposable and you'd still save money.

One use and throw them away and you'd still be ahead of the game.

Where are all these homeless people want drugs?

Give them drugs then.

Trains are terrible, America.

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