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We are in a place to where the Democrats hope we tear each other apart.

They are hoping that this

border security, this spending bill and the emergency

declaration is going to pull the right apart.

And it very well could if we don't go into it right now saying, look, we all have to be reasonable and we're all going to disagree on things.

But we have to prioritize and see what is really important.

Look to history and move slowly.

The Democrats do not want to move slowly.

They, you know, they always promise transparency, and we're going to wait 72 hours, but they didn't wait 72 hours on this.

They passed a bill that almost no one has read.

We have and are continuing to read, and we're going to explain it to you and why it must be stopped now

in one minute.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Also, Bill O'Reilly is going to join us today.

We have an update, an amazing update on that story out of Chicago in hour number three with John Ziegler.

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Oh boy.

Okay.

I wrote to a senator,

I wrote to a Silicon Valley guy, and I wrote to a military intelligence person.

And I said, the spending bill and the national emergency, thoughts.

All three of them came back with a different answer.

All three of them.

But the one thing they had in common was, this is horrible.

Now, some of them said, do it.

Some of them said don't.

Some of them were really strong.

Do it.

Some were very strong.

Don't.

But they all agreed, this is a turning point.

This is a crossroads for America.

And

this is a bad decision either way we go.

So let's first.

It's the opposite of a win-win.

We are in a lose-lines.

Yeah, we're in a lose-lose.

This is something that we cannot

we need to debate, but we cannot point fingers at each other and call each other enemies if we disagree.

Because the left will win on that.

Again, you just described a lose-lose for conservatives, so I don't know how the left isn't winning already.

Because if they divide us even more, we won't be able to stand the onslaught that I think is coming.

We have to, you know, this,

I have tried to reach out, not across the aisle, but across the divide in the conservative movement.

And I have tried to apologize for past behavior, whatever, and just say, look, I'm going to be a guy who will point out the things that I believe are right and the things that I believe are wrong.

And I will support when I can.

I will stand up against when I must.

But I am not going to judge you or anyone else.

We must stay together.

We can disagree, but we cannot become enemies.

I don't know how many people really feel that way today because we are so polarized, but we have to reduce that polarization or we don't make the coming onslaught.

Before we get into this, I want you to know that

everything in me, everything in me

says this is

the

next phase.

I want to say final phase, but I don't feel comfortable enough saying that.

This is the fundamental transformation.

This is the change that came with all of this hope.

And I want you to know that we, I believe, are standing at the abyss.

We are standing at that cliff

that we dare not go over.

If we go over, we are lost.

And it's going to be very hard not to go over that cliff.

But if you look at the things that we are dealing with now, we are dealing with the

I believe, and

I told you, if you're a long-time listener to this program, that I am trying to not use the word evil.

You know, too many times we will say, oh, that's just evil.

Those people are evil.

Well, no, they're not.

They disagree.

They have a different approach.

They think they're doing the right thing.

Most times.

Some are evil.

And they know that what they're doing is totally destructive.

And they have purposes that do not, and they know they do not free people.

They enslave people.

And I've tried to swear that word off, but I will tell you, what we are in right now is a battle between good and evil.

And there is evil on all sides.

Evil begins with a spirit of contention.

Nothing good happens when everybody is at each other's throats.

And it fogs our view of the real evil.

But what we are fighting, let me give you just two examples, with abortion.

We are not talking about babies in the first trimester, where I think God will look at us to judge us and go,

okay, I don't know how you missed that one, but you honestly were looking at it and really had compassion or whatever it was.

And if there is justice after life,

it will be worked out.

I don't know how it's going to work out, but people who have that honest debate of, I don't know if it's life, you know, as soon as

the egg is fertilized.

we're not talking about that now.

We're talking about letting children die that we don't think are viable.

We're talking about killing a child after mom is dilated and she is giving birth because mom doesn't want to raise it.

Every expert will tell you in health,

there is no way keeping that child inside that mother dead for three days and then having her go through the three days that it takes to birth that baby is good for her physical health.

No way.

We're talking about the killing of children now.

That's evil.

We are also now in this bill, there is a provision that, in fact, I would like to read it exactly so you...

you hear the actual

language in it.

None of the funds provided by this act or any other act, this is section 224A,

or provided from any accounts in the Treasury of the United States derived by the collection of fees available to the components funded by this act.

So, in other words, no money that comes from the treasury or any money that is collected through any kind of tax can be used by the Secretary of Homeland Security to place in detention, remove, refer for a decision whether to initiate removal proceedings or initiate removal proceedings against a sponsor, a potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor or potential sponsor of an unaccompanied alien child as defined in Section 462G of the Homeland Security Act of 2002.

So, what does this mean?

This means if you have a child with you,

you have amnesty.

No one is going to stop you.

They cannot stop you.

And this is a permanent act.

Now, let me ask you: if I'm a drug dealer,

I'm a dealer in anything nefarious,

there is a call for young children on the sex slave trade.

We already know that

the border is a horrible place for the sex slave trade, both directions.

This now allows somebody just to kidnap, forget about sex slave.

Just kidnap a kid.

You pay me enough.

I'm going to kidnap a kid

and you walk across the border with a kid.

Or forget kidnapping the kid, paying the kid to go across the border and then come back to Mexico and go across the border with somebody else.

That's what this bill does.

We are enslaving children.

We are looking the other way.

This is an open invitation to corruption with children.

And anyone who said,

anyone who says they are a progressive,

what was one of the first things the progressives did?

The reason why the progressive movement originally took root is because it was for women and children and stopping the what was called at the time work, but it was really slavery of children.

Children and women were almost damn near enslaved by workhouses.

And so what did they do?

They passed all kinds of laws to protect children.

This law does the exact opposite that any fair-minded progressive would want.

We are on the cliff of insanity.

The same day this is happening.

Capitalism is on the run.

Amazon is being told, we don't want you in New York.

But it's not New Yorkers.

It's not the governor.

It's not even Bill de Blasio.

Polling overwhelmingly shows New Yorkers want the Amazon facility.

Correct.

25,000 jobs.

But socialists have raised such a stink that Amazon has no place to go.

And Amazon says we cannot be bogged down by a bunch of protesters all of the time.

So they're looking at Chicago.

but they're afraid the same thing will happen there.

They're looking in New Jersey.

They say the same thing will happen there.

The third one is Dallas, Texas,

which I would have said,

come, you're going to find a very, very happy group of people that will take those 25,000 jobs.

And that is true for the most part today,

but it is not true in Texas tomorrow.

The righteous

in Germany and Poland didn't suddenly become righteous.

They just refused to go over the cliff with everyone else.

They were not

warriors in the street.

They remembered what they learned was truth from their childhood, and they refused to bow to any new truth.

And they soldiered on.

It is critical that we keep our cool and we keep holding to the truth.

I'll tell you what's in this bill beginning in one minute.

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Yeah, I'm sorry.

We're just, I, can I just say to you, can I say on the air should I say on the air what I just said to you if you feel led to yeah I will tell you that I am I am overwhelmed right now overwhelmed

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I don't know I will tell you that I when I

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oh, it's going to be so ridiculed.

Why stop now, though?

Why stop now?

You've had 20 years of this.

We have five people listening, then those five people,

you know, the blood is on your terrible news.

There's a lot more than five people listening.

I know.

Okay, so, you know,

when I talk about things like the caliphate and things like that, I know what I have come up with in myself by doing my research.

And I know when it's not me, it's more information than even I have.

And quite honestly,

I have had very little of that up until the summer.

And I

understand it now

because

everything that I had already said, it took like five years to catch up.

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I am telling you, I see things as a flat wall.

I don't see how much time it's going to take.

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And in me, it is like right now.

But I have learned through time

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Here's a full money.

God doesn't have time like we have time.

He sees everything as now.

And so if he is showing me anything, he's showing it to me now.

And it's for me and you to understand this is not now, this is all coming, but I am overwhelmed and have been, it's been building in me for a while.

And if you're a longtime listener, you've heard me when I say to you, you know, things like, please.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

We're just, I, can I just say to you, can I say on the air of dude, should I say on the air what I just said to you?

If you feel led to, yeah.

I will tell you that I am, I am overwhelmed right now.

Overwhelmed

by the feeling I must tell you,

this is the beginning.

Prepare yourself.

This is the beginning.

Things are going to change.

I don't know.

I will tell you that

when I

oh, this is going to be so ridiculed.

Why stop now, though?

Why you've had 20 years of this.

If we have five people listening, then those five people,

you know, the blood is on your terrible news.

There's a lot more than five people listening.

I know.

Okay, so, you know,

when I talk about things like the caliphate and things like that, I know what I have come up with in myself by doing my research.

And I know when it's not me, it's more information than even I have.

And quite honestly,

I have had very little of that up until the summer.

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everything that I had already said, it took like five years to catch up.

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and just are falling into place again.

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I am telling you, I see things as a flat wall.

I don't see how much time it's going to take.

I see it as a flat wall.

I see what's coming.

And it's in me, it is like right now.

But I have learned through time

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I might as well go all the way.

Here's a Fulmani.

God doesn't have time like we have time.

He sees everything as now.

And so if He is showing me anything, He's showing it to me now.

And it's for me and you to understand this is not now.

This is all coming.

But I am overwhelmed and have been, it's been building in me for a while.

And if you're a long-time listener, you've heard me when I say to you, you know, things like, please grab your family, please make sure that all the things that we've ever talked about are done.

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I am overwhelmed with the feeling we are now officially at the cliff, and

there will be no bystanders.

you have to engage

peacefully peacefully calmly lovingly with everyone please

okay i've said it now now the blood of everybody else it's on you not on me i've said it

uh

let me uh ask a question.

So

the border wall, what we're seeing here now is that we are going to theoretically get some of the border wall

through a national emergency.

Forget all the legal problems and the questions about that, whether it can go through or not.

There's people on both sides of that, or whether it's a good idea or what the ramifications would be later on.

Forget all that for a second.

If I were to say to you, Glenn, you are going to get what appears to be

approximately maybe 20% of the border wall through a national emergency, emergency, which is about what we're, if he's going to get to the full $5.7 billion, we don't know yet how that's going to go.

But you're going to get that 20% of the border wall that Trump is trying to get.

And in exchange for it, this is what will happen.

No longer will tax dollars be able to be used to arrest or deport any child who

is an unaccompanied child, a legal alien, or the person with them.

The person who's taking care of them, or any person who lives in any of their homes

or someone who could potentially take care of them at any time

or someone who could potentially live in the home of someone who could potentially take care of them at any time would you make just that trade no no

way would i make that trade and that's just one part of that spending bill it's the answer on this bill is a continuing resolution that is horrible please mr.

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The more we read this bill, the worse it gets.

And

we are going to go through it thoroughly.

They've already voted passed it.

They've already passed it.

Most people

didn't even take the time to read it.

The Democrats didn't give anybody any time to read it.

The Senate could have slowed it down, but it didn't.

My solution is a please, Mr.

President, veto this.

Please veto this.

And Mitch McConnell, go for a continuing resolution.

Please.

We should point out that the President is expected to speak in about half an hour if you happen to be listening live to the program.

And we do intend on taking the speech.

It should be about this.

It's expected that he will declare the national emergency.

Yeah, and talk about the bill being signed.

So,

Pat, I want to ask you this.

Pat Gray unleashed.

Pat Gray is here.

So just a trade here and take out, for example,

the potential ramifications of the national emergency.

As far as precedent goes, what a Democrat might do with something like this.

Take out the potential legal issues that are kind of floating around.

It's never really been used for this type of thing.

We don't know how that's going to turn out.

Take all that out for a second.

If I just offered you this trade, right now, in the bill that's being, that's being, the spending bill that's going on right now, he's getting about 2% of the border wall.

And if he gets, if he does the national emergency, it's expected he'll get about 8% more of the border wall.

So

it's a small percentage of the border, but wall, but it could put it in important places.

And I think we all agree that that would be beneficial, but not ideal.

Okay.

But if I were just, forget all the other stuff, if I were just to trade you 8% of the border wall, but in exchange,

for no longer in the future, will any tax dollars be allowed to be used to arrest or deport any

illegal alien child, any caretaker of a child, anyone who lives in the house of a caretaker of a child that happens to be illegal, or someone who could potentially be a caretaker of a child that happens to be an illegal alien, or someone who happens to be living in a house with someone who could potentially be a caretaker of an illegal alien child.

What about about somebody who's heard about an illegal alien child?

Almost there.

How can you possibly enforce border

immigration?

I wouldn't take that deal.

No.

I wouldn't take that deal either.

Nope.

That is

10% of the wall.

No.

And that is just one tiny piece of a

1,200-page spending proposal.

And nobody, like Glenn said, nobody's read it.

But I get a kick out of these people who say, read the bill.

And they don't.

They never do.

Do you remember when a few years ago, Rand Paul proposed legislation that before you voted on a bill, you must read it?

Is that not reasonable?

And not only did he not get support from Democrats on that, he got very little back from Republicans.

Yeah, nobody wanted to do that.

Read the bill.

I'm not going to read that bill.

No.

That'd take two days and a team of lawyers.

I'm not going to read the bill.

Yes, even Republicans thought that.

They continually do this without reading anything.

And there's a ton of bad stuff in the bill.

Yeah, I mean,

the wall is only allowed to be built in the Rio Grande Valley.

That's the only place.

Now,

there's also something else in this bill, that it must have local government support.

Well, if you look

at the Rio Grande Valley, they are not

six to one for Hillary Clinton.

Okay.

There isn't a border town in Texas, at least, that didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.

So they've now put in the bill, and it appears to be permanent that if you want to build a wall, this one only authorizes it in the Rio Grande Valley, and the Rio Grande Valley must be, they must vote to do it.

And if they don't vote to do it, then it doesn't happen.

And if you want to build a wall at any other time, the local government has the right.

So in other words,

they're all of a sudden really 10th Amendment, except not even at state level.

All of a sudden, they're like, nope, local people have all the charge on this.

So

could they essentially block the wall being built out of the emergency declaration anyway?

I think that's a good question.

Or is it just the wall that they're talking about

for 55 miles that they proposed

in this particular spending bill?

You mean that they can only block that one?

Right.

No, I think it's if it's any way, I don't know for sure, but if it's any way,

I think it's you can't block it in the Rio Grande Valley, but you can block it any other place in the future.

That's the way I read it.

Actually, I read it the worst-case scenario.

That's a stunner.

Are you surprised by that, Pat?

I read it as the locals can stop it anywhere you want, but go ahead and try in the Rio Grande Valley.

That's how I read it.

But it is, it's being said by

people who read these bills and are attorneys.

They're saying it's intentionally ambiguous.

So you don't know if it's just this bill or if it's forever.

You don't know.

This is what they do every time.

Right.

With these bills.

Every time.

And, you know, one of the people is like, so he needs to have a signing statement saying that, no, signing statements don't mean anything.

Signing statements don't mean anything.

He needs to veto this bill.

I mean, isn't it?

Isn't it please, Mr.

President?

Again, same question to both of you guys.

Isn't a new government shutdown much better than this outcome?

Oh, yes.

Yeah, except nobody in government, nobody in Washington will think so.

Don't go there.

You don't need to.

Continuing resolution.

Just keep everything the same.

Continuing resolution.

We don't need anything but a continuing resolution.

That's what has to happen.

This bill is horrible.

Absolutely horrible.

horrible.

We are giving, what is it,

10 times as much?

We're giving $3.1 billion in foreign health services, which is more than twice the walls

in this bill.

Oh, my gosh.

Did you see what Obama's border chief said about this yesterday?

No.

He said Trump needs to veto this.

Obama's border chief.

Wow.

That you can't.

He said, you cannot sign this bill.

It's that bad.

This bill is written.

It's that bad.

This bill is written as if Democrats believe they have Trump over a barrel.

They do.

And they are saying we believe they have to do it.

Well, they think they won the shutdown thing, which I think they probably did.

And so they think they've got all the leverage now.

Yeah.

And this is written as if they not only did they win, but they are, you know, it's 47-3 in the fourth quarter.

And whatever they want.

You have to call the White White House.

You must blow out the phones of the White House and say, Mr.

President, please veto and go for a continuing resolution.

Please veto this bill.

I mean, there's

the bill

does expand catch and release.

It has to.

It has to.

It has reduced the number of border beds

by 10,000.

Because you could, I mean, look, a lot of people will say, well, we want the wall, and we're going to do the national emergency, which, you know, I'm not a fan of.

But even if you like the national emergency, he can do that with or without this bill.

Sure.

He can do that if he doesn't sign this bill.

Now,

he would have to get 67 senators to step up to overturn that national emergency.

And the idea of that happening, I mean, you're going to get 20 Republicans to stand up against it.

No way.

I don't think they're going to get this thing.

It's got to go to the Supreme Court, and I hope the Supreme Court turns it over only because of this.

Did you see Nancy Pelosi and all of the other Democrats, Elizabeth Warren, everyone came out yesterday and said, well, if you want to play a national emergency, health care is a national emergency.

Guns are a national emergency.

They are telling you right now

if you do this,

fantastic.

Climate change.

Climate change.

National emergency.

They'll do it all.

They really will.

They said it.

They're telling you right now.

In advance.

If you do this,

then climate change, guns, it's all a national emergency, and they will do it.

And since we're proposing trades over and over again, you're a progressive.

You're a liberal, right?

You want to grow the size of government.

You want to grow the size of federal power.

Would you trade the entire border wall?

You give up the entire border wall.

Forget 8%.

Would you trade the entire border wall to get the precedent set?

that you can now declare a national emergency and do whatever you want over that.

As a progressive, as a progressive, you would.

I would.

I would take that trade in a second.

I'd wall that entire border off because you could always override it with another national emergency.

The national emergency power is so strong if used by this, they can redirect any.

There are billions and

trillions of dollars you could redirect over a period of time.

You could say it's a national emergency to build the border fence.

Oh, it's a national emergency to stop building the border fence because we're losing workers in our country and trade is stopping.

Or there's a

humanitarian crisis it it doesn't matter anymore or the wall is built and but we have to let everyone in because of humanitarian crisis the wall does nothing if you're letting everyone in anyway all these things can be overridden if you let this happen this bill also expands the alternatives to detention program from 82,000 to 100,000 so instead of housing family units at the border What it's saying is, oh, don't house them there.

You can't keep them there.

Let them go into the interior of the nation, and we're just going to have them come back to court.

Which they never

do.

Almost something like 2% of the time they show up.

It provides $40 million for additional ICE staffing.

What?

Yes, but the ICE staffing has to be dedicated overall ATD case management, particularly the asylum seekers.

So what that means is you can hire more ICE,

but the ICE agents are only there to help illegal aliens settle in a non-detention center in the country.

So, you've taken the ICE management or the ICE mission and you've completely flipped it.

Now,

you are helping illegal aliens come into the country and find some place to live.

You should really call the White House switchboard at 202-456-1414.

And And

encourage President Trump not to sign up.

Please don't sign this, Mr.

President.

Please don't sign this.

Please don't sign this.

Go for a continuing resolution.

You can keep the government open.

Go for a continuing resolution.

The bill also gives over a billion dollars to the Smithsonian.

What does the Smithsonian have to do with it?

Yeah.

$3.4 billion in refugee assistance.

Oh, man.

$4.4 billion in international disaster assistance.

That's $100 million more.

Wow.

It doesn't eliminate any foundations that Trump wanted to get rid of, including the Asia Foundation, the U.S.

Africa Development Foundation, the Inter-American Foundation, the U.S.

Trade and Development Agency.

This thing is just...

This is...

This is worse.

I think we will find over time.

This is worse than Obamacare.

This bill will do more damage damage to our country than I think Obamacare.

I could be wrong because nobody's read the damn bill yet.

But they've signed it.

And please, Mr.

President, please, there is no rush to this bill.

Continuing resolution.

They do not have you over the barrel.

They have all of us over the barrel if you declare a national emergency because they will use the same thing.

And I don't think Kavanaugh will overturn

his national emergency.

He believes in the power of the president.

And look, I think, even if you want the national emergency, you can still have that without signing this bill.

It's important to separate these two things.

The only reason that people are tying them together is because the reported deal is that Mitch McConnell said, okay, I'll support your national emergency if you say yes to this bill.

That is why they're trying to get yourself a future.

Here's your first mistake.

Mr.

President, please, Mitch McConnell is is not your friend.

Mitch McConnell is not your friend.

Do not sign this bill.

Please overwhelm the White House switchboard.

The president is on his way now to what we believe

is going to be the announcement of this national emergency.

How this plays out, we have time.

There are ways for that

to change.

But once this bill is signed, there's no changing it.

There's no changing it.

Please overwhelm the switchboards and say, Mr.

President, continuing resolution.

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Bill O'Reilly, the country is at a crossroads here.

I don't know if you've had a chance to read the bill, but Congress certainly didn't have a chance to read it before they signed it and passed it.

But it is,

dare I use the word today, abortion.

And the Congress is shouting their abortion.

Meanwhile, the President's about to speak to declare a national emergency.

Make sense of this.

Well, I'm curious,

as far as the spending bill is concerned,

what troubles you about just the actual spending from the federal government until September?

Well, it adds a whole bunch of spending.

I have focused very little on the actual spending in this.

I just don't like it because it's permissive and no discipline.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

It adds a lot of new spending, but in this bill, let me see if I can find it real quick.

It has things in it.

For instance, we can hire new border agents, but they have to help people find a place to live.

You are not allowed to

use any of these funds.

You can now, let's see, none of the funds by this act or any other act

or provided from any account in the Treasury of the United States derived from the collection of fees, blah, blah, blah,

can be used to place in detention, remove, refer for a decision whether to initiate removal proceedings or initiate removal proceedings against a sponsor, potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor, or a potential sponsor of an unaccompanied alien child.

So you can no longer use tax dollars to arrest or deport anyone who lives in the same home as an unaccompanied child that's an alien or could be potentially living that.

I mean, that is a any,

you know, MS-13, they say 30 to 40 percent of arrests of MS-13 members are quote-unquote unaccompanied alien children.

So, I mean, this is.

Look,

I'm not so worried about this minutia because what I see is the long game,

and that's what President Trump is doing today.

What is the long game?

Please tell me the long game.

Make me feel better.

Re-election of Trump.

That's a long game.

So, Trump says, look, they got me in a corner.

They kind of outsmarted me in the sense that they shut the government down.

Americans overwhelmingly don't want that.

They don't want that as a solution.

So I got to get out of this.

And I'll get out of it by signing the stupid bill

and then finding money elsewhere, which he had.

Well,

in the bill, it also says he can only build in the Rio Grande Valley, and it is intentionally.

Yeah, but only under the bill it can.

He's going to declare a state of emergency, which is going to override the bill and basically say, I'm going to bill where I want, and I got I got 9 billion more to do it and here's where it comes from.

He's already got it.

He's already got the 9 billion.

So

the state of emergency that overrides

the dopey bill.

Everybody has to understand that.

It overrides it or he's adding on top of it.

No.

It overrides it because an executive action by the President of the United States declaring a state of emergency where the bills in place can be superseded to deal with that emergency.

That's what a state of emergency is.

That's why everybody hates it.

They don't want to give the power, that the president, that much power to override the legislature.

But the long game is that he knows that if he just wimped away and didn't do anything, he'd lose.

Because that

15%

of the Ann Coulter right would turn on him.

And he needs to.

You know, I disagree with you here, Bill.

I'm watching Twitter, and this may change, but I'm watching Twitter, and I'm watching the usual

border Trump, you know, suspects that are mad at him if he does anything like that.

And they're not for this bill either.

He does have another out, and that's pass a continuing resolution.

Veto this and pass a continuing resolution.

I think that, again, we'll go on to the long game.

Number one, the Twitter mob are activists, so they don't reflect his support crew.

What the Trump administration and the Obama administration, everybody does, is internal polling, okay, that we don't see.

And the internal polling, I can tell you for a fact, showed that, number one, America does not want another government shutdown.

And number two, as long as the president starts to build some of the wall, that they're likely to vote for him for reelection.

So that's what the internal polling showed.

So that the decision was made by the Trump administration to go this way to try to get as many people in his base to basically they don't like it, but they're not going to turn on him.

So that is the long game.

I want Stu to ask you a question that he asked me.

And I want to hear your reaction.

Well, Bill, it looks like

the national emergency would get potentially about 8% more of the wall built, which is a significant amount on a 2,000-mile border, plus the 2% that's in the bill.

So

it's not insignificant.

And I think the border wall is a good idea.

Taking out the whole thing about the precedent that the national emergency sets and everything else, this thing that we talked about briefly a minute ago, which basically says

you no longer can use tax funds to arrest illegal immigrants in almost every situation, I think it encourages.

No, no, not almost every situation.

Only when minors are involved.

Involved.

It's a minor-driven thing.

Right.

That's true.

I will tell you that it's going to be used.

Oh, it'll it'll increase.

Wouldn't you?

Because, you know, every kid they can find will be stapled to an adult.

You know, you know that's going to happen.

Of course.

It incentivizes human trafficking.

Well, it's a chess game here.

So you look, you have to step back and you have to say, what is the most effective way to defeat the permissive forces on the left who don't want any border?

Okay, so.

They want an open border.

So wait, I'll say.

So a message of the day on billorilly.com that laid out what happened in California when the Hispanic population, Latino population,

went from 3 million to 15 million.

The whole state became a Democratic precinct because of that five-fold jump in Hispanics living in California.

That's what happened there.

It's provable.

So now you have the largest state, one-party state.

That's what the Democratic Party wants to do in Arizona, in Texas, in Florida, flood the zone with as as many Latinos as they can, get in here by chain migration.

Remember, you get in here and you establish residency legally, you can take in 30 people.

Okay, that's chain migration.

So if Trump doesn't get reelected and someone like Biden or Michelle Obama wins,

then

our country is essentially going to change dramatically.

Yes, I agree.

Demographically, politically,

economically, everything's going to change.

So that the game that the Trump people are playing now is we have to stop that.

Okay, so

if you're building a wall, if you're building a wall, I know you say this is minutiae.

If you're building a wall

with this bill,

it accomplishes everything the Democrats want, even if...

There's no other alternative.

Yes, there is.

A continuing resolution.

This is a symbol of the fight.

It's a symbol of the fight's late Rubicon.

Expensive symbol, though.

We have to make our stand here because there's nowhere else to make the stand.

Where would you make the stand?

Say Trump

signs the bill, as you suggested, and then does something else.

No, no, no, I don't want him to sign the bill.

My problem is with the bill.

My problem is with the bill.

No, it doesn't.

A continuing resolution.

We've had one since George Bush left office.

Why this push all of a sudden for this spending bill when you can just do what we've done since George Bush left office?

We don't have a budget.

We have a continuing resolution.

So sign a continuing resolution.

He has to basically go to the Congress and either put his name on a bill or not.

If he doesn't, as you suggest, then chaos breaks out.

I mean, it's just all over the place.

And he can't even govern because every single day is going to be more litigation.

It's going to be this, that.

He's overstepped his authority.

We want this.

Nothing else will get done.

The whole government will be paralyzed.

What happened in Great Britain with the Brexit thing?

So

here's

my feeling.

is

he is going to announce a continuing resolution and he's going to sign this bill.

The bill will be implemented because everyone will be looking at the massive fight that's coming over the

state of emergency.

And they're going to hold that wall up every step of the way through courts.

It will go to the Supreme Court.

Marco Rubio just said he's not sure he could support that.

I mean,

it's going to be, that's all we're going to be talking about.

Meanwhile, more ICE agents will be employed because they can employ another

1,200, but none of them can actually work on detaining people.

According to this bill, they have to be hired to help relocate people from the border into the center of the country, wherever it is they want to go, and just catch and release.

But now, now we're a travel agency.

Now ICE is a travel agency.

Yeah, where do you want to go?

We'll drive you.

I mean, mean, it's...

And that's...

And so

my thought is, is that...

I think you're taking it way too literally.

I don't think any of this stuff's going to happen.

I don't think any ICE agents are going to help anybody relocate into the United States.

They're basically going to try to wall it up in the sense that they're not going to let anybody in, just like they did with the caravan.

All right, so the caravan shows up in Tijuana and now they're in Texas, and there's thousands of people living in tents.

Well, they're not getting in here.

All right, they're not getting in here for asylum.

They're not getting in here anyway.

Because they walled it up.

They basically said, we're not taking you, you're not coming in, and just for the press, we'll take 25 a day, all right, and we'll process them.

This is what's going to happen here.

It's the same thing.

But I think that the larger picture is that Americans have a decision to make.

What kind of country do you want?

All right.

And that's what the Trump people are playing.

They're playing, look at these crazy Democrats.

Look what they want to do.

All right.

So you can't give them power.

And that's what they're gambling on in the White House.

That message will get through.

And I think that I'm hopeful that that message is going to get through because

we are at the end of the Republic.

Okay.

We're going to get back to Bill O'Reilly more on this.

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We're still awaiting the president to speak.

Bill, one quick question for you, because you are the author of 975 number one New York Times bestsellers.

Thank you.

And you have another one that is sure to be number one coming up about the president.

You know him better than anybody.

Every time you've talked to him all the time, you always add really interesting perspective about the way he thinks.

You know, at least that's what I think.

I don't know what anyone else thinks.

But when it comes to this, we know the fight, it's going to be a crazy fight.

Why didn't he stand like this when Republicans had control for two years?

Because they couldn't get

a full caucus in the House because of the freedom people

to support

what he wanted to do.

So the freedom, what is it, the Freedom Caucus.

The Freedom Caucus.

Okay.

So they basically said, look, we're hard guys and

what we want.

And Ryan, the Speaker, couldn't coalesce.

They couldn't get it.

And then in the Senate, McConnell kept saying to him, look, I'm not going to get 60.

So

no matter what I do, whatever proposal I put out,

we're not going to get 60.

We're not going to be able to vote.

So he's stymied in both houses.

Okay, so

nothing happens.

But it's more likely now, right?

Like now the Democrats have control, at least then the rest of the country.

But now what he's going to do is not even listen to them.

So I can't impress upon you enough that a state of emergency gives a president tremendous latitude to do exactly what he wants to do.

Oh,

I am very well aware of that thing, though, isn't it?

You say, okay, the Democrats are dancing around saying, okay, now when we get power, we're going to do the gun thing.

But they're going to run up against constitutional issues.

On that one, they will.

That will be difficult.

But

global warming, they won't.

Because

I wrote a really brilliant column that I hope somebody read to bail out.

I did not.

And I didn't ask anybody to read it.

What is this Green New Deal all about, really?

It's about totalitarianism.

Yes.

In every single country that has gone from a ruler to a dictator,

the dictator phonied up some panicked thing that threw the population into this

frenzy that we'll give away our rights and you can make it better, Mussolini.

Every single one

throughout history, there's never been an exception where people voluntarily said, oh, we'd like a dictator.

Come on in here, Franco, and tell us what to do.

This global warming stuff, this is where we're all going to die.

We're all going to die.

So we have to do Green New Deal where we, the Democrats in Washington, tell you what to eat.

All right, we're going to tell you what to drive, what medical procedures you can and cannot have.

We're going to take your stuff after you die, we're going to take everything you have.

Okay?

This is totalitarianism.

This isn't democracy.

So

they want to control the lives of Americans on every single front.

And they're using

climate change to frighten

people in Berkeley, California, who can barely find their way to the facilities.

All right, they're that dense into supporting totalitarianism and one-party rule, which is exactly what they have in California.

One-party rule.

And that's what's happening.

And it's frightening because it could succeed with the decline of our educational system.

And by the way, the Green New Deal will tell the teacher what the teacher can teach and not teach.

It extends into every single thing America has.

And that's why I've sold 987,000 books, million books, because I figured this stuff out first.

All right?

Well, only because you were listening to this program about four days ago when we said the same thing.

Look, here's the thing, Bill, here's the thing.

You're absolutely correct on that.

There is a growing

fascistic

or communistic, whatever totalitarian

view.

However, it shapes up there is a totalitarian view and the one thing you left out is the economy if the economy if brexit goes horribly which i think i'm hoping is kind of like the hype on you know why 2k but if it goes horribly and europe goes into the abyss so do we and everyone will be clamoring for a bigger government uh and then uh we we we see it we see it go away um

no i just see i disagree with that analysis okay good well hang on hang on.

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All right, we're getting ready for the president.

He's expected to

declare a national emergency.

Our chief researcher is in Jason Battrill.

Jason,

tell me what this

he has to use very specific language here, does he not?

Yeah, the way the law has been changed over the years, he's got to state very specifically how he's going to use the funds and how he's going to,

you know, everything he's going to use government-wise in this national emergency.

So it'll be very, very telling on, you know,

how much this can be taken advantage of or abused going forward.

We're online now with our White House correspondent from the Blaze in Washington, D.C., and John is sending us pictures that we have not seen on TV yet of all of the,

I want to say Gold Star moms, but they're not Gold Star moms, angel moms.

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And so there's no doubt in our mind this is

where he's going.

Bill O'Reilly is with us now.

Bill, as we wait for the president, is there

anything here that you can add to this conversation on just even declaring a national emergency?

Well, he told me he's not going to go and do it until Beck and O'Reilly were finished on a radio.

Oh, good.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, I'm kind of excited to hear it, so maybe we should declare we're finished.

You know, he just didn't want that kind of backlash.

You know, to knock us out off the air.

The only thing I can tell you is that this is the ultimate political chess game.

And there is only one objective here, and that is to get Trump back for four

years so that he can then run wild with what he wants to do.

Because they're trying to

implement a strategy where he would be reelected and the House would go back to the Republicans.

Okay?

And they want to do it by radicalizing the Democrats, and that's not real hard because the Democratic Party is.

But old Joe Biden's in the race now, as I predicted, and told you that he would be the frontrunner.

And unless Michelle Obama gets in,

Biden, I believe, will be the nominee with Camilla Harris on the second.

And Trump could beat him, depending on the economy.

So that's what's really in play on all of this stuff.

You can get buried in minutiae, as Beck has a tendency to do, okay?

But I'm telling you that these guys,

when they have the power in the White House and in Pelosi's office and in McConnell's office, they can figure out ways around this stuff

that you can do that.

And it's a short-term play.

It's 2020 is the vote.

It's not far away.

So that's what it's all about.

Minutia is obviously you can get hung up on that, but is it are you thinking

in a somewhat minutiae-friendly way while saying the only goal is 2020?

The long-term goal is

as you just said that's short-term.

Look, I know this White House, as you guys know, I know it.

I know it.

So that's what they're doing.

You can say, oh, O'Reilly's wrong.

I'm not.

That's the only thing on their mind now.

That's it.

All right, so you're not saying give up or, you know, this or that, the Border Patrol is going to take somebody to 7-Eleven, they'll do it

because they'll obliterate all that if they can regain power in both houses and he gets re-elected in 2020.

Does that worry you, though, as a motivation?

No?

It does.

What worries me is, look, I interviewed

Donald Trump Jr.

yesterday, all right, for the book, The United States of Trump.

And he says something very astute.

And he was in a great interview, a thousand times better than his father, because he didn't want to tell me anything about his background.

I found out anyway.

But

Trump Jr.

said to me, I live in Manhattan, and most of my friends are liberals.

And in the past, I could

understand

many of their positions.

Now,

I can't.

The party has moved so far left, it's so destructive, that no longer can I even have a conversation with them.

Okay, hang on.

Here comes the president.

Here comes the president.

Thank you, Bill.

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All right.

Station Suite.

We are on just a bit of a delay, just a couple of seconds' delay.

So we are going to be taking the president, who is expected now to make

the

declare a state of national emergency.

This is going to to be a, you know, it's a big moment.

We're yet to see how it's going to play out.

There's a huge fight in the, as far as Democrats will definitely try to overturn this.

There will also be a huge court battle, and that battle is not decided yet.

It's never been tested on something like this.

It does appear he can legally do this.

On the other side of that, though, it has never been tested on anything even somewhat controversial.

So there's

a lot of wrangling to go on.

Likely scenario, if he does this, he's probably still not actually starting to build the wall for quite some time.

He also, this will be the first time a state of emergency has actual appropriated funds for anything.

Here we go, the president.

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I'm seeing ahead in the speech.

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Okay, Okay, hang on, dope.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

All right, President Trump is talking in the Rose Garden.

Go ahead and bring this up.

He hasn't said anything of substance yet, except he has to build a wall

and hasn't gotten any of the specifics yet.

Let's go ahead and bring him up.

The new highs

that we created,

we have all the records.

We have every record, but we're getting close to that point again where we'll create new records.

So our country is doing very well economically, and

we've done a lot.

But one of the things I said I have to do and I want to do is border security, because we have tremendous amounts of drugs flowing into our country,

much of it coming from the southern border.

When you look and when you listen to politicians,

in particular certain Democrats, they say it all comes through the port of entry.

It's wrong.

It's wrong.

It's just a lie.

It's all a lie.

They say walls don't work.

Walls work 100%.

Whether it's El Paso, I really

was smiling because the other night I was in El Paso, we had a tremendous crowd

and a tremendous crowd.

And I asked the people, many of whom were from El Paso, but they came from all over Texas.

And I asked them, I said, let me ask you as a crowd, when the wall went up, was

better?

You were there, some of you.

It was not only better, it was like

100% better.

You know what they did.

But that's only one example.

There are so many examples.

In El Paso, they have close to 2,000 murders right on the other side of the wall.

And they had 23 murders.

It's a lot of murders.

But it's not close to 2,000 murders right on the other side of the wall in Mexico.

So everyone knows that walls work, and there are better examples than El Paso, frankly.

You just take a look almost everywhere.

Take a look at Israel.

They're building another wall.

Their wall is 99.9% effective, they told me, 99.9%.

That's what it would be with us, too.

The only weakness is they go to a wall and then they go around the wall.

They go around the wall and in.

Okay?

That's what it is, very simple.

And a big majority of the big drugs, the big drug loads, don't go through ports of entry.

They can't go through ports of entry.

You can't take big loads because you have people.

We have some very capable people, the Border Patrol,

law enforcement, looking.

You can't take human traffic, women and girls.

You can't take them through ports of entry.

You can't have them tied up in the back seat of a car or truck.

or a van.

They open the door.

They look.

They can't see three women with tape in their mouth or three women whose hands are tied.

They go through areas where you have no wall.

Everybody knows that.

Nancy knows it.

Chuck knows it.

They all know it.

It's all a big lie.

It's a big con game.

You don't have to be

very smart to know.

You put up a barrier.

The people come in.

And

That's it.

They can't do anything unless they walk left or right and they find an area where there's no no barrier and they come into the United States.

Welcome.

We've detained more people.

Our border agents are doing such incredible work.

Our military

has been incredible.

We put up barbed wire on top of certain old walls that were there.

We fixed the wall and we loaded up with barbed wire.

It's very successful.

But our military has been fantastic, and I want to thank them.

And it's very necessary.

We've broken up two caravans that are on their way.

They just are breaking.

They're in the process of breaking up.

We have another one that we haven't been able to break up yet.

We've been actually working with Mexico much better than ever before.

I want to thank the President.

I want to thank Mexico.

They have their own problems.

They have the largest number of murders that they've ever had in their history.

Almost 40,000 murders.

40,000.

And they've got to straighten that out, and I think they will.

But I just want to thank the President because he's been helping us with these monstrous caravans that have been coming up.

We had one that was up to over 15,000 people.

It's largely broken up.

Others have gotten through.

And in Tijuana, you have a lot of people staying there.

If we didn't have the wall up, and if we didn't have the wall secured and strengthened, they would have walked right through.

They'd be welcome to the United States.

One of the things we'd save tremendous, just a tremendous amount on, would be sending the military.

If we had a war, we don't need the military because we'd have a wall.

So I'm going to be signing a

national emergency.

And it's been signed many times before.

It's been signed by other presidents.

From 1977 or so, it gave the presidents the power.

There's rarely been a problem.

They sign it.

Nobody cares.

I guess they weren't very exciting.

But nobody cares.

They signed it for far less important things in some cases, in many cases.

We're talking about an invasion of our country

with drugs, with human traffickers,

with all types of criminals and gangs.

We have some of the greatest people I know.

They've been with me from the beginning of my campaign, almost from the first week, the angel moms.

Unfortunately, we have new angel moms.

One incredible woman just just showed me her daughter, who we're talking about killed in the year of 18.

I said, I haven't seen you before.

She said, no, I'm new.

I said, that's too bad.

It's too bad.

It's so sad.

Stand up just for a second.

Show how beautiful your girl was.

Thank you.

I have such respect for these people.

Angel moms, angel dads, angel families.

I have great respect for these people.

These are great people.

These are great people.

They're fighting for their children that have been killed by people that were illegally in this country.

And the press doesn't cover them.

They don't want to, incredibly.

And they're not treated the way they should be.

They're fighting for other people because they don't want what happened to their children or husband

or anybody.

We have one young lady whose husband, please stand up.

Your husband was just killed in Maryland.

Incredible

man, just killed.

Beautiful children won't be seeing their father again.

These are brave people.

These are people that they don't have to be here.

They don't have to be doing this.

They're doing it for other people.

So I just want to thank all of you for being here.

Okay, I really do.

I want to thank you, incredible people.

Last year, 70,000 Americans

were killed at least, I think the number is ridiculously low,

by drugs, including meth and heroin and cocaine, fentanyl.

Now, one of the things that I did with President Xi in China, when I met him in Argentina,

at a summit,

before I even started talking about the trade, it was a trade meeting.

It went very well.

But before I talked about trade,

I talked about something more important.

I said, listen,

we have tremendous amounts of fentanyl

coming into our country, kills tens of thousands of people.

I think far more than anybody registered.

All right.

This is the President of the United States.

He has stated here that he is going to declare a national emergency.

He is talking about all of the reasons.

He has so far not given any of the details of the national emergency.

We're going to take a break, check in with the local stations, and then we will be back to give some analysis.

We also are going to be talking to John Ziegler about

what's happening in Chicago.

There's some breaking news in Chicago that is truly a sign of our times.

All coming up after the next break.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

Today is a tough day for Americans who

believe that our country is in real trouble and who also

believe that the way to lose the country is to lose the Constitution of the United States and the balance of power.

We're facing a double-edged sword.

Do you do what you need to do

to

save from the onslaught of the left

and just do what you have to do right now?

Or do you think long term and

I don't even know, bypass this and take your lumps?

And then what?

Maybe lose the election?

And if you lose the election, then what?

Then you have a full onslaught, full bore.

We're going to talk about the president's speech, what he is recommending, what Congress has just passed.

It's an abomination.

And we'll begin there in one minute.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

There was a lot of news in cryptocurrencies yesterday.

I printed off a bunch of stories.

I haven't had a chance to read them yet.

Yeah, I mean, there's always tons of news here.

This is a huge development as far as our financial future goes, and they're still in the middle of sorting all of this out.

Could go really well.

Could go the other way, but you need to understand it.

You need to understand the fundamentals of it.

Yeah, and governments are now starting to look into their own cryptocurrency.

I'm quite honest.

Venezuela tried it already.

Yeah, I know.

It didn't work.

It is going to play a role in our lives.

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Okay, Jason, we didn't really get any detail at all on what he's planning on doing, did we?

No, just basically the papers will be filed, pretty much.

And the national emergency is going to happen later today.

That's really all we know.

Right.

So we don't know any of the details, but

here's basically how things happen.

Here's a really likely scenario.

So the way this National Emergency Act operates is

it's kind of strange in the way we normally think about how Washington works.

Basically, the president can

say he wants a national emergency on pretty much anything he wants.

Now, that's never been challenged in court, what determines a national emergency.

But the way the law is structured, essentially, the president can say we have a national emergency on whatever he wants, and

it can go forward.

He can change the thing.

He can take money from one place and move it to another place because he's decided this is an emergency.

Now, Congress, when they passed this, of course, was aware of the possibility that a president could make national emergencies about whatever they wanted.

So what they said was

if he does a national emergency, Congress has an opportunity to overturn it.

And so that was just over a normal vote and the way that the Congress normally operates.

Because appropriations are, money is involved.

And Congress is the only place constitutionally that can

say money is being spent.

Right.

Senate can't do it.

No, only Congress.

It's the power of the purse.

You hear that all the time.

So they have the power of the purse to say, you know what?

No, this isn't a national emergency.

The issue with this is when that got to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court said,

well, you can't avoid our normal process of a presidential veto.

And so they changed a law in an incredibly fundamental way, which says if Congress overrides the national emergency the president has said that they want,

the president still can veto their override,

meaning it gets sent back to the House and Senate, and you need a supermajority to be able to overturn it.

Two-thirds.

So, which makes it the oversight much less powerful for Congress.

So, to me, when the Supreme Court did that, what they should have done is throw the entire law out and make Congress do it over.

Now, so you know, this is not a long-standing law.

I mean, it is, I guess, if you're young, but

this law came into play under Carter, and it was for the Iranian hostage crisis.

We were seizing all of the funds that Obama just released and returned in the middle of the night in that airport, if you remember that.

We were seizing their assets.

So, that's where this national emergency started, was under the Carter administration.

We have not had it.

This is not something that is foundational to the Constitution or anything else.

No, and we should also point out that, you know,

you can make an argument to say we need to act really quickly on something.

We need a national emergency.

We can't wait around for Congress.

You can make that argument.

There's no reason, though, that there needs to be more than what, let's say, let's go crazy, six months.

Let's say a president to demand an emergency, lasts for six months, and then that ends.

And by then, Congress has to pass something that backs it up.

Because the national emergency you're talking about under Carter is still in effect today.

Well, that's not because of Carter.

It does end.

It ends every, what, six months?

Yeah, it ends every six months.

However,

it's the president that has to say that it's still going.

And the president never gives back power.

Why would you?

You don't have to.

Right.

So let me walk through here what is likely to happen.

President says there's a national emergency.

I would say almost definitely the Democratic House will say this is not an emergency.

They will overturn the emergency declaration.

Casio-Cortez and Castro have already said they're introducing the bill, I believe, today.

So then the Senate will then go and have an opportunity to do the same thing.

Now, this is Republican-controlled.

However,

I would bet at this point that the Senate will also overturn.

the president's national emergency.

Right now, we already have Susan Collins on record basically saying she's voting against it.

We already have, it looks like Rand Paul, who is fearful of executive power, and he is voting against it.

There are two or three others that have indicated likely they will vote against it.

Now, this is an easy vote for a Republican senator because they can say, all right, well, we're voting against it.

We don't really like this move.

The issue here is then it goes, if those two things happen, President Trump has to sign a reversal of his own executive order or his own national emergency, which of course he will not do.

He will feed it.

Then it will go back again to the House.

I think there is an actual possibility that even with the two-thirds needed, the House may get it because of the fact it's Democratic-controlled.

And I think you'll get enough Republican House members to go through and say, yeah, we're going to overturn it.

I don't think you'll get there on the Senate.

No.

So that is a process of what we just talked about is, what, a month?

Right?

I mean, who knows how long that takes.

With these guys in Washington, it could take even longer.

Well, it depends on how much political hay.

I mean, they can get things done as we have seen.

They put this bill together, they passed it, signed it, and gave it to the president in what, 12 hours?

Yeah,

it's quick when they want to make it quick.

Now, after that, though, let's just say that that's true.

House

maybe does get the two-thirds, but the Senate does not, which I think is

very difficult to get that high.

It would have to be massively unpopular, not only with Americans in general, but with Republicans, for that to happen.

If that does not happen, it will then enter a lengthy court fight.

The courts, as constituted right now,

have been very friendly to the injunction.

Clarence Thomas has spoken out against this and said this needs to stop, but we have not stopped it yet.

They're doing these injunctions on Trump all the time.

Whenever they disagree with him, they'll stop him from doing it before the decision's made.

And it goes all the way up the ladder.

This will likely climb the entire ladder all the way to the Supreme Court.

You could be looking at two years before he even lays one piece of steel for this fencing that he's trying to do.

Well, he could accelerate it to the Supreme Court.

He could try, yeah.

Yeah, he could try.

You can accelerate.

The president can accelerate it to the Supreme Court.

Or the Supreme Court as another branch does not have to

listen to him.

Doesn't have to listen to him.

But they can.

But he, yeah.

And if he tried to accelerate it through the Supreme Court, that actually would probably, if he fails in the Supreme Court to get this national emergency, it would help him make the case of we've got to change the court, depending on who voted which way.

Yeah, right.

And that's true.

And I think he can also make a very good case at that point that he tried everything possible, which some people who are looking at this, you know, Bill mentioned this earlier of Bill O'Reilly, who was on with us earlier today, mentioned this as an idea that basically they're just concerned about his election.

And this is a message to his supporters.

Look, we tried really hard on the border, even if it fails, which I think is true.

We've talked about this many times.

I will tell you, quite honestly, I do not think this is a good idea.

I think it gives a terrible, it's a terrible precedent.

Democrats will be able to do God only knows what with this pass.

Well, they've already said.

They've already told us.

They've already said that it's going to be climate change, the Second Amendment, which will be harder to do.

Harder.

But they could do it with climate change.

And the other one was

health care.

Health care.

They said those are all national emergencies, and we will do it.

I mean, you know, is the debt not a national emergency?

I mean, they could could do it with that, too.

There's a million things that could happen.

And what we are doing is transferring a

giant amount of power to the president, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat going forward.

I think it's a terrible precedent to set.

And I will say that the right thing to do here is repeal and get rid of entirely the National Emergency Act.

You can come up with a new version of it that might give a few, a couple months of leeway before Congress has to pass something, but

there's no reason for an unending power for the president to be able to spend money on things that, in this case, specifically, Congress specifically rejected spending money the way that he's spending it.

Now, I agree with the way he's spending it in many ways, but the Congress, who has the power of the purse, specifically rejected spending money on this.

And now

he is going through it and doing it anyway.

The precedent being set there is really bad.

He didn't get enough for it.

And the people most excited about this is is that field of 2020 Democrats who are salivating with the opportunities that this gives them to go around the voter, to go around Congress.

And so you know,

the president doesn't have to sign this bill.

Continuing resolution.

You can do something else.

Pass a continuing resolution.

Even if you like the national emergency part of this, you can still get out of this bill.

The bill is a

dumpster fire.

Albatross.

It's worse than a dumpster fire.

It's an uncontinued.

The dumpster is not there.

It's just everything's on fire.

It's just everything is on fire.

Thank you very much.

Do we miss anything here, Jason, before I move on?

The wording is important here, Jason, right?

Because the specifics were not given in the speech, but the wording of the act.

That's what I'm most concerned with.

That's what I really want to read now, because, like I said before, the law specifically states you have to be very, very specific on how these are allocated.

So we need to read this to see, because it'll be amusing.

You can't just say a wall, right?

It has to be specific areas where the wall is built, how it's going to be built, where you're getting the money from.

He did say, I wouldn't need this fine talent if Congress would do their job.

The fine talent he kept pointing out was the military.

And keep an eye on how he says he can use, the president will be able to use the National Guard, the Border Patrol, all that stuff.

Like, that's going to be very specific on how much power he has and which will continue probably into the next president.

This is not a good day for any side, in my opinion.

This is not a good day.

This is a lose-lose,

unless you want to grab power.

This is a lose-lose, whether it's happening today or five years down the road with another president.

This is a horrible, horrendous bill that has been changed and added on to, I believe, from what the president said he would agree to.

It's horrible, horrendous.

It usurps everything he's tried to do and rubs his face in it, rubs your face in it.

The idea that I'm going to sign the bill and declare a national emergency,

not a good idea.

He has the power to do it, but I think that's going to come back and bite us in the end in a big way.

And

we all lose.

And again, either way, we all lose on this.

You mentioned quickly what the bill does, and we discussed this in hour one.

But if this bill had been effect for the past decade, let's say, the dispending bill, 30 to 40 percent of the arrests of MS-13 members would have had to have been abandoned

because

they were in a group that is protected in this bill.

Underage children, or people who are caretakers of underaged aliens, or people who live in the same household as a caretaker of an underage alien.

Or could

it literally say potential sponsors or people who live with potential sponsors of underaged aliens?

And it does get more money for ICE.

Unfortunately, that money is to hire more ICE agents who are basically a travel agency.

You can't arrest more people.

They've cut down on the bed.

So ICE, new members have to be hired so they can help those illegals get from the border to where they're going to where we'll process them sometime down the road.

This is a horrible bill.

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So

there's another story that really

astounds me.

And that is this story of, what's his name?

Justin?

Justin's

small.

I don't know.

He guy from Empire.

Yeah, he's a big star, apparently from Empire,

and a guy that I really felt bad for.

But from the very beginning, we didn't talk about it much because something didn't seem right.

And what didn't seem right to me at the very beginning was these guys were waiting in an alley or someplace.

They had rope

and bleach with them.

It was one of the coldest days of the year in Chicago.

It was like two o'clock in the morning.

So, two guys were just waiting for a black guy to come by so they could use the bleach and the rope on when it's like 10 below zero outside.

It just didn't seem to make sense to me.

And then the camera footage started coming out and showing him completely fine on camera for all but about 60 seconds.

60 seconds.

Did the entire attack happen then?

I mean,

it's not completely impossible, I suppose, but the police are, I would say, very suspicious at this point that it was just a hoax.

Well, they apparently

interviewed a couple of guys at the airport yesterday and took them into custody.

And they're saying now that these guys were either the perpetrators

or they were there.

Isn't that right?

We're going to get John Ziegler, who's really been following this.

But they're friends friends of his.

So the idea is that for some reason, he decided to make this up,

and

he has put the country through an emotional wreck.

I mean, I really felt bad for the guy.

You know, there were reports he's in the hospital and all of this.

But the strange thing is, he went out at 2 o'clock in the morning for a Subway sandwich, 10 below zero.

Which, you know, connects with me as a fat guy.

Yeah, it does.

Except you have to watch something.

It's food.

But now that you have DoorDash and Uber Eats, why are you?

So, anyway, it's 2 o'clock in the morning.

He gets a Subway sandwich.

He goes.

He is monitored the whole time because of the street cameras, except for this 60-second period.

The 60-second period where they threw bleach on him, called him all kinds of names,

and put a rope around his neck.

Then he comes back into camera 60 seconds later, and he's walking, and he still has the Subway sandwich in his hand.

Now, I'm a fat guy,

but I think I drop the Subway sandwich if somebody's throwing bleach on me

and putting a noose around my neck.

Unless you're using it as a weapon.

Occasionally, you get that Subway bread that's been there a little too long.

It's a little crusty, a little hard.

And then maybe that could take a perpetrator out.

Don't think so.

The odds are pretty low.

Don't think so.

So now, what is this going to do?

And, you know, what's really sad is

we now have,

I don't know, I hate to call them agents because it sounds like a conspiracy, but we do.

We have agents that are, you know, by themselves.

They're not part of a conspiracy.

They just agree with the left that America should be taken down and white people are bad and anything that adds to the cause is good.

And they're willing to do or say anything.

If this guy is indeed guilty of this as a hoax,

I mean, he said he was on the phone with his agent or his manager at 2 o'clock in the morning.

And so his manager was the only witness, but he won't turn over his phone.

And the manager won't turn over his phone.

Well, your phone would have a record of that phone conversation.

And so why won't you turn over your phone?

And then seemingly when it was turned over, there was deleted things in there.

I mean, mean, it is a sketchy story.

We'll get all the details with John Ziggler here in a second.

But these hoaxes have happened over and over and over again.

And I mean, think of

the difference between the way the kid with the red hat was hit, was treated when he is when there is footage of every second of it and there's nothing he did wrong.

And this is automatically the biggest crime in the world, and we have absolutely no evidence of it.

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I kid you not, it's called Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher again.

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John Ziegler,

one of our favorites,

one of my favorite hosts

because he tells it like he sees it and to hell with the consequences.

And he is a guy who has been out on the edge of stories like what's happening in Chicago before.

And I think he's right.

And this one,

this story in Chicago had no one willing to do the work,

at least in the national media.

And he has been, it looks like, as of last night,

it looks like he's right about this.

John, welcome to the program.

How are you?

All right.

Always good to talk to you, Glenn.

Yeah, so John, tell everybody the story if anybody

hasn't been following it.

Well, a couple weeks ago, Empire actor Jussie Smollett claimed that he was the victim of a heinous hate crime at 2 a.m.

in Chicago, where the show is filmed,

that was directed at him because of his race, his celebrity, and his homosexuality, and that this occurred in the middle of a polar vortex, which is totally normal for two people who apparently were Donald Trump supporters who yelled at him this is MAGA country because again that's totally normal because everyone knows how well Trump did in Chicago

and

and and how how big how big a MAGA country Chicago really is

and and this story also came to the police in a in a rather odd way there was a delay in calling 911 there were details added after the original version of the story like the message like the MAGA part right that wasn't initially reported right which is important as i think we'll get into later on as to interpreting what really did happen here because there's really two stories whether what he said is true and if it's not true what really happened and to me glenn debunking these super pc stories as you've already suggested i've done numerous times before it is really a pretty simple mathematical equation i mean i mean it's really it's totally math what i do is i take the plausibility of the story on its face which in this case is probably about a 10 on a 100 scale.

You add to that the amount of evidence corroborating it in comparison to what the evidence should exist, which was in this case, I don't know, maybe 20 out of 10.

And then you divide it by how hesitant the media and the authorities are due to political correctness to debunk the story.

And in this case, that's 100 because this guy has a political correction force field that's impenetrable.

Okay, so hang on.

I just want to make sure that I understand

because

what the claim is, is that he was targeted, right?

Right.

Okay, so

he goes out of his apartment at 2 o'clock in the morning, and I don't think he set out a press release, that he was going to walk to go to Subway.

So we have to first believe that two people in, what, 10 below zero temperatures?

Something along those lines, Jeff.

10 below zero temperatures were waiting for him to cross their path on the way to getting this Subway sandwich at 2 o'clock in the morning with with bleach and a rope.

Right, because he got the rope hung around his neck, which but bizarrely he kept around his neck for like 45 minutes afterwards.

By the way, this rope, from what I understand, is is barely can a rope.

I'm not sure even sure it would be correct to call it a rope, but but you're exactly right.

I mean this the and of course to me, it's it's obviously it's 2 a.m.

It's it's dark.

He's not a real celebrity.

I i I would not have recognized him.

And by the way, how many ma uh Trump supporters are big Empire fans?

I mean, i th the the whole thing is absurd on its face, and and there's no evidence to back it up.

And the first time that I well, the f uh it wasn't the first time, but the first time I thought this thing might fall apart was when the police

who do not have any incentive to debunk this because, you know, of the political correctness

especially in Chic in Chicago, when they started to leak things, like, for instance, we've gone through hundreds of hours of surveillance tape, which all of this area has video cameras everywhere, and they couldn't find anything to support the story.

And I'm like, wait a minute, hold on.

There's no way that the police would be even leaking that on background unless there was some real strong suspicions about what happened.

And then

I, and I have to say, even though I believe I'm right in the big picture here, I was wrong in interpreting one piece of evidence that I think the police may have schnookered Smollett on, at least that's my current interpretation, and that is they released a few days after this

a photograph of two quote-unquote persons of interest.

And when they this got a lot of hype because, oh, they found the persons of interest, this story is real, and of course, then they released this photo, and it's basically two blobs who are not even close to where this thing happened, and supposedly they were walking away from it before it even occurred.

And I thought that was laughable.

I thought, there's no way these two people have anything to do with this.

Well, I now believe from my media sources, and it's important to point out, that that part of the reason I got involved in this, Glenn, is because the media in Chicago doesn't believe the story.

The police don't believe the story, but there's censorship going on because no one wants to be the first to debunk it because they will be vulnerable to attack.

And so they've been basically saying to me, hey, Zig,

you know, here's what's really going on.

And what I now believe happened is that through using incredible modern technology, the authorities have known who these two guys were from very early on in the investigation and not telling us that.

And it was only after Smollett won on Good Morning America and actually ID

those two people laughably as, yep, I know they're the ones that did this, that we find out, lo and behold, guess what?

The authorities know who they are, they're questioning them, and they have been extras on the TV show Empire.

Bum, bum, bum.

And now we know that the Smollett story, we don't know what for sure.

I have a couple theories that are being, and what the police, I think, are debating about, two different theories about what happened here.

But we now know that Smollett knew his attackers.

And that destroys the whole story.

There's no way this was a Trump-related hate crime.

And then you go from there.

Is it possible, John, that they, that, A, did these people who worked on the set of Empire have a beef with him

and want to take him on?

Or is it possible that maybe the attackers wanted to make this happen to make Trump supporters look bad?

And Jussie is not actually involved in this.

Well, that's the in my opinion, in the opinion of my sources, that is the debate that's going on in the police department right now.

And that's why last night the police department put out a statement that, of course, the media latched onto.

It was, oh, see, this isn't necessarily a hoax.

No, no, no.

Read that statement carefully.

Don't read it like a kindergartner.

Read it like somebody who's lived life.

And the reality is, they didn't deny that there's a major problem with Smollett's story.

Here's what it breaks down to.

Was the story a premeditated hoax, or was it a domestic dispute gone bad that got post-meditated into a hate crime?

ABC, the local ABC reporter who's been on this from the beginning, has done great work.

He reported, and that broke the story open last night, that it was a premeditated hoax, and that's what police were believing.

I have never believed that because there's certain details in this that don't make sense.

If this was a premeditated hoax, it was incredibly poorly done.

Like, who decides to do this at 2 a.m.

in the middle of a polar vortex?

Like, there's a lot of different ways you could do this.

Plus, the details,

not putting forward the MAGA detail right off the bat to me eliminates the idea this was a premeditated hoax to try to create a hate crime because why would you withhold that from police?

So, I believe, I personally believe in the domestic dispute gone bad,

post-meditated, let's create a hate crime, and that may have been planted in Small Ed's head because there was this threatening letter that was sent to the show about a week beforehand, and it got spung out of control.

So when you say a domestic dispute, are you saying that

these are two lovers of his or one lover who got somebody else?

There is a segment of the police who have been telling their media sources from the beginning that they believe that one of the the two guys that are in that photograph and are being spoken to by police right now was in a relationship with Smollett, that Smollett cheated on him, and that this was a revenge attack on him for what I'm referring to as politely as possible as a domestic dispute.

And that Smollett, in a panic, started to go down a different path.

It spun out of control.

He added the Trump thing because he's a very anti-Trump person, and he knew the media would lap that up, and of course they did, and now it's much bigger than he ever expected.

Now he's trapped, and now the story is falling apart because it turns out he knows his attackers.

And here's the key part.

This is part of why the police are confused.

I am told that those two guys are changing their story, that their story is evolving, and that that's why there is a conflict within the police department of Chicago as to whether this was premeditated hoax or post.

meditated panic hate crime.

And so that's why I think we're seeing a hesitation right now as to where the police are going on this.

But the bottom line is the story is not true.

He was not attacked by Donald Trump supporters in a hate crime.

That did not happen.

Do we know the race of these two guys?

They're Jamaicans, which, you know, of course, Trump is very big in Jamaica.

And

I'm sure that, I mean, of course, you would never recognize a Jamaican accent either at 2 a.m.

in Chicago.

No, not if they're talking to you.

It's like a Chicagoan accent.

Right, exactly.

So, I mean, the whole story makes perfect sense, right?

I mean, and I think the most important part of this whole thing, folks, is this is a perfect example of how the news media, the entertainment industry, and sometimes even the authorities have become so politically correct, they're so willing to buy into these BS stories, whether it's Brett Kavanaugh or Jim Jordan.

You remember the story that we talked about a couple years ago with the standard who faked the boy's death.

The Air Force Academy had one of these stories last year that I called them on.

It turned out to be a fake hate crime.

And you and I have talked many times about the Penn State Joe Paterno Jerry Sandusky case.

The more politically correct a story is, the more likely it is not to be true because there's no incentive for anyone to debunk it.

Because the media is not about the truth.

It's about protecting the gig.

All right, that's the most important thing.

The truth gets lost in all this because popularity is the coin of the realm, and no one wants to do anything that's unpopular because you might get fired, especially in a case like this.

So, John, tell me what you think is going to happen.

Are you claiming that this story is absolutely not true and the police are going to come out with, it's not true.

This was not a hate crime.

This is one of these two things.

I think they had to pick a lane, and I also think there's going to be a lot of pushback politically.

And so I still think this may end up going down the memory hole.

Now, the people close to this day know, and interestingly, they say Ron Emmanuel, the mayor of Chicago, is going to be the one who forces this thing to get solved because he apparently, I am told, secondhand, but reliably, he is pissed.

And I think that they were willing to let this go down the memory hole until he went on Good Morning America.

And then they decided, all right,

let's unleash the dogs.

And I think that

so in the real world, this story is going down.

Whether or not anything happens to him, you know, I am a cynic, so I will reserve judgment on that.

When do you expect to hear more?

Well, I mean, they have 48 hours from last night to charge the two guys that they're currently questioning.

So I think we'll know a lot more within that 48-hour time frame, which is about another 36 hours or so.

So can we get you back on the air on Monday?

I'd love to hear an update.

Let's do it.

Okay.

John Ziegler, thank you so much.

Zygmunt Freud, Z-I-G-Man Freud, is where you can follow him.

Also, he writes for Mediite.

John Ziegler, Thank you so much.

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Let me just end on this post-Valentine note.

You know, people have said that Kanye West was, you know, insane.

They've said it for a long, long time for many different reasons.

Lately, it was because he was pro-Trump, blah, blah, blah.

You know, and I respect his right to his opinion.

And, you know,

God bless him.

I thought he was very, very brave.

However, there is a point when bravery just turns to insanity, and that is inviting Kenny G

to come and play

at your house.

Yeah.

What was it, Kim's birthday?

Kim Kardashian's birthday?

No, I thought that was for Valentine's Day.

Was it just Valentine's Day?

No, no, it was Valentine's Day.

Kanye surprised me with Kenny G.

Yeah, that would be quite a surprise.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, good God.

You brought him into the house?

And I have to stand here and listen to him play that stupid horn?

How many times have you heard people say, you know who Kanye West?

I don't like him, but he's a musical genius.

No, he's not.

He's booking Kenny G.

He's booking Kenny G.

Did you know, by the way, they said Kenny G apparently was contacted 12 hours before the event and asked to come.

Apparently available.

Apparently, with 12 hours' notice.

Really?

Available

on Valentine's Day.

You have to think it's probably the biggest Kenny G

of the year.

That's why.

I'm trying to think of who goes to a Kenny G concert, though.

I don't know.

I mean, he still has a career and everything, I guess.

But, and I will say there's a very big possibility that the reason he showed up at that gig is because Kanye West threw like $500,000 at him.

So, I mean,

I would also show up at Kanye's, and I wouldn't even attempt to play the horn.

Right.

I'll try anything you want, pretty much for $500,000.

So, I understand this.

Yeah.

But that is an odd gesture from a guy guy who's supposed to be a genius rapper to book Kenny G.

I mean, for his celebrity wife.

It's a weird world.

They may be right.

Kanye is not really black.

He's an old white woman.

I just say it.

All right.

Have a safe weekend.

We will see you on Monday.

Thank you for listening.

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God bless.

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