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I felt this was an important story on the Covington Catholic School

since the moment I saw it.

But there are things about this that stand out.

First, I think we were all disappointed at how fast everybody jumped on the bandwagon to bash this kid.

But in a society of virtue signaling, you can kind of understand.

But I was disappointed with how fast moderates and conservatives and the Catholic Church itself jumped immediately to attack this kid.

That's a really bad sign.

And I think it's a result of an entire generation of virtue signaling.

It's not good.

We collectively have no chance against future mobs if our own will turn on their own

just to virtue signal.

You have no chance.

If no one will give you the benefit of the doubt without hearing the evidence, we have no chance.

I also think what sets this apart, this is the first time,

not really,

not really evident to the average person.

This is the first time that the media has full-on, knowingly

lied to perpetuate a story.

And I don't mean knowingly, they knowing us.

Usually there's some shadow of a doubt.

Usually there's some reason.

Usually there's something.

We've all heard stories and there's always something you're like there's this nagging feeling well yeah but maybe i'm not really sure so you you stand up and support what you think but you could be pushed down

because there's always some piece that seems to be missing this is the first time i have seen one that the facts of the story were always there

The evidence that the story was wrong was

out about as early as the story itself.

and the media knew on this one.

They knew.

They saw this as an opportunity.

Whether it happened like that or not didn't matter.

But something's changing.

This is the Kavanaugh story.

We asked ourselves, are we going to learn from this?

Nope.

We said, what happens when this is your son or daughter?

Remember?

What happens when this well this is someone's son this is a minor this isn't kavanaugh who did something 40 years ago that none of us could prove see with kavanaugh we still had to go with our gut and our common sense and some people's gut went the other way some people said no you know what i just believe her

And it kind of fell down on party lines, but not universally so.

Anyone honest

could come to a different conclusion.

On this one, no.

There's no way.

So, this is Kavanaugh on steroids.

Yeah, because you think if we happened to have 40 different viewpoints of the entire party that supposedly happened, that Kavanaugh was at, it would have been easy to decipher what actually occurred.

Right here, we have 40 cameras, and they still can't seem to figure it out.

It almost hints at some dishonesty.

Almost.

I know I'm reaching there, but it almost seems like they're just fitting this to their narrative, no matter the cost to this poor 16-year-old kid.

So here's the thing.

The media knew on this one.

They saw this as just an opportunity.

Whether it happened like the way they said or not, it didn't matter.

There's more disturbing stuff about that.

I'll get to in a second.

This is also the first time the mob of millions has gone after a child.

Now let me say this.

Do you remember just last week there was this picture of a naked trans man

standing next to a trans child that has been performing in strip clubs?

No one in the media had anything to say about that behavior or their parents.

No one said anything.

But a kid smiling.

Apparently we can read the mind of that kid.

The kid smiling, even though all of the two hours of video evidence show that's not what was happening there.

That was unacceptable to the media.

That they had to preach.

We've never gone after some kid.

Especially we never, the mob never attacks some kids, especially just for smiling.

If I give the left the grace of trying to frame their point of view in my mind, the most harsh charge I can come up with is that he smiled at someone.

And then the rest of it, you just have to fill in the blanks.

Even if you did smile at someone, is that enough to destroy him?

To say you wanted to push him into a wood chipper?

To offer

free oral sex to anyone who will punch him in the face to offer signed copies of my all of my albums if somebody will just beat him up is it enough that smiling are you comfortable with your child smiling

could be innocent might not be for the millions of Americans

To take a picture of your child, interpret it any way they wanted true or not and then target your child child for death?

This is an attempt to destroy an innocent person.

This is an attempt to destroy an innocent child

and intimidate anyone

who won't go along with a mob.

This isn't the first time.

But

it's recent then even after the evidence, the hard left Hollywood and others aren't budging.

They will not accept the fact.

This is new

in in my opinion on this.

This is new

Usually the hard hard left will not accept the fact, but they cannot convince half of the country When the evidence is clear and people have made a mistake, usually they say oh, I'm sorry made a mistake.

That's not what's happening here.

What's happening here is really disturbing is the media and social media jumped on it,

just like they did with the Obama picture.

I'm sorry, of the jail pictures of the kids.

Okay?

They jumped on that.

Then they immediately apologized.

But what did they learn from that?

Wait, don't apologize.

We're wrong about this.

But we're actually right about it because it's still going on.

So here, the media and social media and the left have said,

He's a horrible monster.

Oh, the evidence shows he's not a horrible monster.

Well, I'm sure he's a horrible monster some way or another.

Let's get him.

And so, now they're going to find any way they can to prove that they may have they weren't wrong on Friday.

They just weren't right about it in that instance.

He is a horrible monster.

This school is a horrible place.

We know it.

And how do we know it?

He was wearing a hat.

You know, Martin Luther King on

last Monday, it was the anniversary, Martin Luther King saying, don't judge me by the color of my skin, but by the content of my character.

Now, it's not even skin color.

It's a hat color.

Don't judge me by the color of my hat,

but by the content of my character.

On the same day, Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King Day, just a few steps away from where he made that dream,

where he proclaimed that dream and spoke it into possibility of existence.

You're not even judging on skin color.

At best, this this is the best example of widespread hate speech and active threats of harm delivered over Twitter and Facebook, where the companies refuse to police people.

I've seen

you could say whatever you want about these kids, Facebook and Twitter, they don't care.

How many people would they have to ban if they had to enforce this?

I believe they realize that if they actually police the left, the left would rise up and strike them back hard.

They're not going to take on the left.

Look at how much hate, how much vitriol

has been preached.

One journalist finally got fired.

But look what he had to say to get fired, although he also still has a Twitter account.

Here it is.

I don't know what it says about me, but I've truly lost the ability to articulate the hysterical rage, nausea, and heartache this makes me feel.

I just want these these people to die.

Simple as that.

Every single one of them, die.

And their parents.

Now this guy lost his job, but the Twitter account remains.

We saw something else with this story.

It's like if you took the intersectionality foundation being built over the last decade and put it in a Petri dish, this story is what it would grow.

If you're a woman's March protester you frame this kid as just another Kavanaugh just another rapist in the making I have seen these hundreds of times online the 20-year challenge

putting that kid side by side with Kavanaugh if you're a Black Lives Matter supporter you saw him as a KKK member Here's

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The red MAGA hat is the new white hood.

Just saw somebody on CNN say,

I just am triggered by those hats.

It's the new hood.

Without white boys being able to empathize with other people, humanity will continue to destroy itself.

If you're one of the idiots that think some secret patriarchal

cabal is keeping people down, you see him just as part of the patriarchy.

Here's another one.

Racism is in boomer death throes.

It will die out with this younger generation.

Look at the crap-eating grins on all those young white slugs, faces, just perverse pleasure at wielding a false dominion that they've been taught their whole life was their divine right.

Just effing die.

If you think millennials don't respect war vets, and by that I mean leftists who masquerade as if they care about such thing,

you had an angle too.

If you just hate Trump, the kid was the embodiment of what Trump has done to the country.

So the kid doesn't get to just defend himself.

He doesn't get to defend what he actually did.

I mean,

how do you defend smiling?

He has to defend against being a rapist, a Klan member, a conservative, a Trump supporter, a patriarchy member, being a male, being white, whatever whatever the hell they want to say

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You know, it's amazing to me.

The kids that are killing kids in Chicago,

we don't care.

We don't care.

Seattle, there were these 16-year-olds at a shootout as they were robbing a gas station yesterday at gunpoint.

Barely made the news.

Nobody cares.

Nobody cares.

But this smiling kid,

did you see him on the Today Show?

He looks terrified.

Now, if I were the parent, I don't think I would have gone on the Today show.

I mean, he did fine, but that kid looked terrified, and he should.

He's in also a hostile environment.

You know, I know the one clip NBC decided to push out as a promo was, do you want to apologize for what you did?

That was their big question.

Apologize.

Of any question that you could ask this kid, their question was, do you want to apologize?

Look at the way, look at the way the left, you know what?

See if we can have somebody in the office compile all of the times people on the left said, How dare you take apart these Parkland shooter kids, these kids.

I'd really like to see,

where are they now?

Where are they now?

Those kids.

They're absolutely not off limits anymore, that's for sure.

Nope.

Kids are fine to go after.

Yep.

For nothing.

Get them.

I mean, think about just how insane what you just said a minute ago is.

A person, multiple people get shot, get killed in incidents all across the country, and we're spending this much time on a kid who's who wore a hat and maybe smiled.

I mean, you know, it's important for us to cover it because if not, this kid's life is destroyed.

But if the truth doesn't come out, his life is destroyed.

But it makes no sense that this was a story in the first place.

As I said the other day, even if he did say build the wall, even if he flipped off

all the Native Americans, even if he was a jerk,

even if he was a racist, and even if he was the worst person you can think of that you could possibly be at 16 years old in high school, it is certainly not a national news story.

It is certainly not even a local news story.

If anything, it is a conversation between the principal and the parents afterwards.

If he really had done something wrong, it is not a national news story that even if he was a punk, that high school students are occasionally punks.

It happens.

If he weren't wearing the MAGA hat, it would not be a story.

Nope.

Would not

be a story.

This is all about

the government closure, the media wanting desperately just to destroy Donald Trump.

And they'll do anything to destroy Donald Trump.

Joy Behar admitted it.

Yeah.

Can we play that clip?

Do we have that clip?

She was on the the view yesterday, and Whoopi Goldberg said, how come?

Why?

I mean,

why is this a story?

Why would we all jump to the conclusion?

What does that say about us?

And here's what Joy Behar said.

People admitted they made snap judgments before these other facts came in.

Other facts.

But is it that

we just...

instantly say that's what it is based on what we see in that moment and then have to walk stuff back when it turns out we're we're wrong.

Why is that?

Why do we keep making the same mistake?

Because we're desperate to get Trump out of office.

Listen,

those are mothers.

Those are mothers.

These could be your sons.

And by the way, just something else for Whippey Goldberg.

When you say other facts, is that kind of like alternative facts?

It wasn't other facts.

The facts were there the whole time.

Right.

The video was there.

I think that's the point you made.

There are no alternative facts.

There are just just facts.

You choose to see a few.

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what is in

your stack of stuff that I think.

I think probably a lot of the the same things that is in yours.

I'm really, really hacked off about this Covington kid thing.

The media,

they won't stop with these kids.

Even though it's all been disproved, even though they did zero wrong,

they're still looking for a way to persecute these kids.

The Savannah Guthrie, I know you guys mentioned it.

Did you actually see the interview?

Listen to this part?

No, I saw part of it.

Listen to her asking him whether or not he has anything to apologize for.

Do you feel from this experience that you owe anybody an apology?

Do you see

your own fault

in any way?

As far as standing there, I had every right to do so.

I don't, I, yeah.

My position is that I was not disrespectful to Mr.

Phillips.

I respect him.

I'd like to talk to him.

I mean, in hindsight, I wish we could have walked away and avoided the whole thing.

Look at how terrified

he's terrified.

That looks like my son.

Yeah, I know.

But, yeah, am I sorry?

Yeah, I'm sorry I did this interview, Putin.

I'm sorry I agreed to come.

I don't know if he would have said Putin, if that would have helped things.

I'm sorry, Nathan Phillips is such a psychopathic liar.

Truly, truly sociopathic liar.

Yeah, sociopathic liar.

Yes, he is.

And I'm sorry, nobody in the media has any integrity or honesty, including you, Savannah.

I mean,

it's crazy to watch this when you think, especially when you bring up the Parkland kids.

I mean,

they were vile in many of the things that they did.

They were sainthood.

Sainted.

They were

screaming the F-word in interviews.

They were tweeting out the F-word in interviews.

He was completely, David Hogg was completely disrespectful to anyone who disagreed with him.

He was making stuff up about Dana Lash and others, and yet Laura Ingram couldn't even question why he couldn't get into a college at one point.

She didn't.

There is these kids trying to get into college.

Good luck.

Yeah.

Good luck.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they won't wind up at Harvard, I don't think, like Hogg did.

It's because they're not the right political ideology.

It is terrifying what's going on right now.

I think this is.

This is a big deal.

I'm going to say what I wanted to say on Monday

because I've thought about it, because Stu has made me think about it over and over again.

But I really believe that this

is what I just think about things.

This is,

we are now entering the time where I will not be surprised to see someone beaten within an inch of their life in the well of the Senate.

And the reason why I bring that up as an example is because I remember doing my homework on trying to figure out

what was life like in America leading up to the Civil War.

What did it feel like in America?

In 1855, four,

somewhere in that area,

there was a senator who was talking about the whore

that the South is sleeping with, and that whore is slavery.

And it offended the South.

How dare you say that about the South?

And so one of the House members walked over with a silver-tipped cane and beat that senator on the floor of the Senate.

No one came to his aid.

Beat him almost to death.

Almost to death.

Took him years to recover.

They finally came back like two or three years later to deliver the rest of that speech

and beat him with an inch of his life.

No one stopped him.

No one stopped him from leaving.

He threw the cane down, left.

They They took the senator to the hospital.

Nobody really cared about him.

They never prosecuted the guy who beat him to death.

In fact, they took that cane, took pieces of that cane, and they made it in necklaces.

And

the Democrats in the House and the Senate wore necklaces with that cane around their neck, a little teeny cane around their neck, to say, we don't care.

We'll beat anybody to death that stands against us.

Now, when I read that 15 years ago, I thought, that's crazy.

We are a long way away.

But I can see that happening.

This story is a turning point for America.

And you better know what side you're on.

You better know, you better watch this now with your kids.

In fact, we should do a special maybe on Monday that you can just watch with your kids the danger of tweeting, the danger of Facebook, the danger of smiling in public,

and

show our kids how important this is.

Because, at worst, that's what the kid did.

At the very worst, he smiled at the guy.

Smirked.

Yeah.

It's not bad anyway.

That's not bad.

That was what was interesting about this one: in that, like, let's say there's been some of these fights between the Proud Boys and other groups, like Antifa, right?

And so you watch a Proud Boy guy punch an Antifa member in the face, and they're like, look at this, they're assaulting these people outside.

And then later on, you see the full video, and actually, the Proud Boys were attacked first, and they're defending themselves.

Like, it's understandable to me to say, you know, maybe you have a preconceived notion of one of these groups, and you say, Okay, I just saw someone hit, punch another person, and that looks really bad.

We didn't even see in the video this kid do anything wrong.

It wasn't like they took a bad moment out of context of a larger event.

He did nothing, and they just assigned horrible intent to him for no reason.

He bought a a hat.

He bought a hat.

That's it.

A hat.

He wore a hat.

It's not even the smirk.

It's the hat.

And it's kind of inexcusable to me.

Unless I've missed it, I haven't seen the Covington Catholic School administration

to support these.

No, they haven't.

Still.

No, they haven't.

With all the evidence, they've still done nothing.

Right, I've seen their hands.

Yesterday, I had the shirt printed

so I could show my support for

the Covington Catholic School and

the Covington Catholic

members.

But I have a really hard time supporting the Catholic school and really even the Archdiocese at this point because the Archdiocese just released a statement that said, we're still looking into it before we see if there's any sanctions that need to be taken.

Excuse me?

It's unbelievable.

If I were

a parent there, I would be outraged.

And my kid would be out of the school.

Yeah, but I think, well, A, it's a really good school.

So people are willing to give them a little extra slack because you know how hard it is to come across really good schools.

But that school will be forever divided now because I believe what's happening, I don't know this for a fact, but I'm guessing what's happening is the social justice warrior Catholic side is fighting against the traditional Catholic side.

And the social justice warriors, who are very, very far left in the Catholic, in the Catholic faith, are

splitting this.

And so

I do have this word in from some people in the know, but I don't know.

It's secondhand here.

But I believe it to be true that they're concerned about picking a side because half of their congregation will leave.

And so they don't know what to do.

They want to keep everybody together and they don't know what to do.

Well, you can't.

I mean, there's going to be,

I shall clean out mine own house first.

There is going to be a cleansing and

purging of those people who will not listen to the Lord's commandments.

It's going to be.

You have to make a choice.

Yeah, I have no, we all understand there's people that make choices.

We all do.

We're all imperfect, right?

That you're trying to make choices and sometimes you make the wrong ones and you go with pragmatism over principle.

I got no,

no,

no patience for a faith organization doing that.

You should be saying principled things until there's zero people at your school.

That's true.

Jesus.

That's what you're saying.

That's your

nailed him to a tree.

They nailed him to a cross and he was still saying principled things.

That's the whole

whole faith is based on doing things that are unpopular in those moments to stick with those principles.

Here's the thing: because people wrote to me yesterday, what can I do?

What can I do?

What can I do?

Well, I wanted to show my support.

I had the t-shirt made.

I want to show my support.

I'm having a t-shirt made that everyone can buy.

And

wow, it's already there.

It's Covington Strong.

And

I want you to show your support.

Be

dare to be courageous.

Dare to speak the truth.

This is just about a MAGA hat.

This is not about these kids.

Well, we need to remind ourselves, it is about the kids.

It is about this community.

It is about people who stood and were acting decently and principled, and they had nothing wrong.

This is about Kavanaugh.

This is about the border.

This is about the media.

This is about political correctness.

This is about all of it.

This story represents everything that the middle of the country is done with.

And for the administration at Covington Catholic,

all it has to be about is doing the right thing to defend these kids who did nothing wrong.

You don't even have to play the political card.

You don't have to say anything about that.

They just did nothing wrong.

How many times have I said?

Told the story.

Clan, you misunderstand.

The righteous among the nations didn't suddenly become righteous.

They just refused to go over the cliff with the rest of society.

Don't go over the cliff.

Stand.

Stand on this issue.

Stand.

This isn't Kavanaugh, where, well, it's a horse apiece and it's your opinion, my opinion.

This has evidence and proof.

It happened in front of our own eyes.

All you have to do is watch the raw video.

You don't want to watch the raw video?

Fine.

Yesterday we posted all of the clips so you could see it.

We told you in a TikTok so you could send it to your friends.

And we include the full unedited video.

If your friends don't want to watch it, then you know who they are.

You know who they are.

Disengage.

Find like-minded people.

You must stand on this.

You must stand.

Nobody's being thrown off of Twitter.

Nobody's being thrown off of Facebook.

I want to throw a Disney producer.

I'd like to throw that kid into a wood chipper.

Oh, I was joking.

So he's fine.

He's fine.

Imagine if I would have said, David Hogg, boy, would I love to throw that kid in a wood chipper?

Would I be on the radio today?

No.

No way.

No way.

No way.

Courage is contagious.

Love and courage is contagious.

So is hatred.

Hatred and vitriol and vendettas.

Do not get involved in that.

Stand for the truth.

You want to show your support?

Easy way to do it.

Go to shop.theblaze.com.

Get a Covington Strong t-shirt and wear it.

And if people come up, I can't believe.

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way.

Have you seen the facts?

Here, write it just on a piece of paper.

Here, go to this website.

Here are all the facts.

And if they don't want to listen to the facts, you know who they are.

Fine.

But I think you're going to be shocked at how many people come up to you and go, Wow.

I didn't know that.

Good for you.

Good for you.

Get your Covington Strong t-shirt right now.

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and i i want you to after the top of the hour i want you to listen to that and i want you to say ask ask yourself this question.

What's the difference between them

and the Westboro Baptist Church?

What is the difference between them and the Westboro Baptist Church?

And if your son or daughter had been

harassed by the Westboro Baptist Church, And then a guy who had been egged on by the Westboro Baptist Church started playing a drum in your son's face.

Do you think even if he did smirk, that would be a problem?

We're looking at this story all wrong because the media is not telling you who the people were around the Covington school kids.

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Would things have been different if it was the Westboro Baptist Church that were out on the mall, that were egging on the Native Americans, calling them all kinds of racist names, and then got the Native Americans so riled up and then said, Get these boys.

Would it have been different?

Would anyone have minded somebody who was really working almost in league with the Westboro Baptist Church?

Would it be a problem if that person was smirked at?

That's the way you need to look at this story because I'm going to tell you who the black Israelites are, and they're the ones who are at the center of this controversy that the media refuses to look at.

Yes, Covington Strong.

We begin the program in one minute.

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Some of the stuff that you're going to hear is quite offensive.

Listener discretion is advised.

I'll tell you when we get into that.

It'll be at about five minutes from now.

But I want to to talk to you a little bit about the black Hebrew Israelites.

The black Hebrew Israelites are the story.

If you are just watching the mainstream media, you have no idea why I'm talking about it.

But if you've watched this show, if you've listened to anybody, or you've actually watched the video, the long-form video of what happened in the mall on Washington, you know who the black Israelites are.

These are just

vile, vile people

that really were the cause of most of the problems on Friday.

It's like like having,

you know,

what's his name?

Reverend Philps or Phillips from the Westboro Baptist Church.

Phelps, at least.

Phelps.

That's right.

It's like that.

It's that bad.

Nobody in the media is talking about him.

I want to tell you who they are.

The path from the founders of the black Hebrew Israelite movement in the

late 1800s to the group that is verbally abusing people, including the Covington Catholic High School students in Washington last Friday, is very complex.

There are many different groups and subgroups and offshoots.

It would take a week to untangle all of these.

I'm going to try to boil them down, but no, I just got a letter from somebody who is a fan of this show and says, look, Glenn, I am part of black Israelites.

That's not our group.

And I understand that, and I understand that religion is a very tangled thing.

But I'm going to speak generally here and give you the roots of it.

And then I'm going to to speak specifically about this group that we saw.

It all started in 1886 in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

It was started by a former

railroad worker named Frank Cherry, and he established the Church of the Living God, the pillar and ground of truth for all nations.

That was the official name of the church.

He mixed together all the elements of

Judaism and Christianity, and he believed that African Americans were descendants of the original tribes of Israel.

He preached that these Israelite ancestors were chased out of Babylon into central and western Africa, where they were eventually sold into slavery by the Romans.

He also preached that Adam and Eve and Jesus were black.

Personally, I don't care.

I don't care.

I'm going to look for the character of Jesus, not the color of his skin.

Cherry also preached that whites were inherently evil and hated by God.

Cherry's church formed the template for a ton of offshoots.

Throughout the 1900s, the offshoots developed into three main tracks.

There were the black Jews who adopt Jewish rituals but also believe in Jesus as the Messiah.

There are the black Hebrews who strictly practice traditional Judaism.

And then there are the black Israelites.

These guys are nationalistic and the furthest from traditional Judaism and Christianity.

This is the group that harassed the Covington students in D.C.

just last week.

Now, the group calls itself House of Israel, and it evolved from the black nationalist movement in the 1960s and 1970s, which branded Christianity as a foreign religion imposed by white slave masters on blacks.

Now, this group is on the extreme edge and fringe of the black Hebrew-Israelite movement, but they see themselves as the radical reformers of Hebrew Israelites across the spectrum who have just all gone astray.

Even the notorious Southern Poverty Law Center characterizes this group as a black supremacist group, placing it on the same level as the Nazis and the white supremacy groups.

Why is the press not worried about this group?

but they are worried about white nationalists.

The current high priest of this wing of the black Hebrew Israelites has

prophesied that a vengeful black Jesus is going to come back to earth and he's going to kill all the white people.

That'll be interesting to see.

Interesting premise for a movie as well.

That's a movie.

It is actually a movie I would like to see.

That's fun.

It may be a little sacrilegious.

A little bit.

A little bit.

It would be a fascinating watch.

But with that cheery message in mind, small groups of black Hebrew Israelite Israelite street preachers called camps station themselves at busy intersections in busy cities like Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C.

And all they do is rail against the white devils, which they believe are descended from a race of beasts

spawned early in the Bible.

In fact, one of the twin brothers of Jacob, later called Israel, in the Old Testament.

They also rail against promiscuous women, African Americans,

because native Africans sold black Israelites into slavery.

They also rail against Asians.

They call for the death of Jews and the death of homosexuals.

You're going to hear a sampling of pretty much all of this here

from a video taken Friday at the Lincoln Memorial.

Now, former member of the black Hebrew Israelites say that they use fear tactics to break down new recruits and brainwash them.

Recruits are urged to join camps and verbally assault pedestrians.

Now it's easier to go through airport security than it is to visit one of the group's places of worship.

White people cannot go.

If you're a person of color, you have to explain to security why you're visiting and how you heard about the church.

You have to swear that you're not a cop, you're not a spy, you're not a member of a rival black Israelite group.

You then have to swear before the security guards that you're clean, including not have hadn't eaten pork or had sex for the previous 24 hours they take your phone and photo ID during the service then they pat you down once you're inside the first door you have to register your name address and phone number then you're handed a Bible if you make it that far a disciple then pours olive oil on your head as a final cleansing ritual now you can go to church Good times

so there's their history but what is it they believe and stand for?

What do they preach on American street corners?

Were the things caught on tape during the Covington controversy an aberration or the norm?

You be the judge, but I want to warn you: what you're about to hear is highly offensive.

The vast majority of their stuff cannot even be broadcast on public airwaves.

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Again, I want to warn you that what you're about to hear is highly offensive.

But let me give you a montage of what these guys actually say on the street corners.

How much they are like

the

Westboro Baptist Church, and they get no press.

Listen.

They think it's a joke, man.

It's not going to be a joke when we got a sword and it's going across your neck, man.

You're going to get tortured, too, man.

And by the way, all you so-called white ones, we're going to get brutally raped out here.

Let's do it!

Little ugly cave beasts.

Have your last days of enjoying America because the most high is about to put your ass in sleep and you don't use us to do it.

That's right.

That's according to the fight.

It's about to be 144,000 Nat Turners risen up.

That's right.

Just going to be killing so-called white people, babies included.

Okay.

That's what they preach.

That's who they are.

That's what they were saying in front of the the Lincoln Memorial.

And God bless America, they have a right to say that.

It's hard, but they've got a right to say that.

And they have a right to believe that.

They do not have a right to do that.

It's some of the most racist and bigoted language you will ever hear.

However, no one in the press seems to care.

Now

this is not what the anti-fascists and the rest of the militant left has risen up en masse to fight against, is it?

If that was a white man saying that,

that would be a Nazi.

And I know how the press treats Nazis.

Where is the crowd of black-clad millennials standing against these guys?

And I'm not encouraging them because I think those guys are radicals as well.

But the reason why they're not there is because they agree with Tear Down the System.

They agree with a lot of what is being said here.

They'll show up to Berkeley.

They'll protest Ben Shapiro,

but not somebody saying these things?

Okay, well, they're saying this all about white people, right?

So it has to be okay.

In today's culture of relativism, we can just let it slide, you know, as long as it's directed to white people.

I'm sure they're perfectly fine with everyone else

That's right

That was incorporated into those civil rights acts

These gooks and these damn East Indians they hate every race and creed

Now, this is the only footage that we could find that didn't have profanity.

I can't include the audio of them slamming other African Americans.

I can't include the video of them slamming Jews or Mexicans because it is so vile and laced with profanity that I cannot air it on public airwaves.

We are editing some of those things down

for today's five o'clock.

And it will come with a very strong warning.

But I believe these people need to be exposed and America needs to wake up.

You're demonizing the Covington Catholic school kids who were standing up, not against four black men.

They were standing up against these guys.

In the climate of me too,

you would think the anti-women stuff would be the final straw.

But I'm sure they've never been hostile to women because otherwise we'd see the women's march people

led by Linda Sarsour, no doubt, holding an anti-black Israelite rally in Washington, D.C.

So they must not be anti-women, right?

One of the top three fantasies of women is to get rapes.

Who are you?

Who do you think you are?

Oh my god, I've done research.

No, I've taken coffee.

Look it up right now.

Those are daughters.

My daughter.

We're going to take your daughters, right?

They're going to be our concubines.

That's right.

That's how it is.

Hey, somebody somebody might pick you up, too.

And the women laugh.

And the women laugh.

Okay, I'm not gonna play any more of this vile crap, but imagine just for a second that everything you heard was said by a group of white men on the steps of the Capitol wearing MAGA hats.

They wouldn't last five seconds.

They wouldn't last ten seconds before

Antifa had targeted them.

And hundreds of people forced the police to arrest them.

Hundreds of videos would begin to pop up on both social media and blasted all over CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times.

Take your pick.

It would be everywhere.

Everywhere.

They say they are for justice.

The left is not for justice.

They are for vengeance.

And vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.

They are for vengeance.

Because they have no problem with these things being said by Louis Farrakhan, by Antifa, by Hollywood celebrities, even in their own ranks as journalists sometimes.

I want to put that boy in a wood chipper.

I just like to see all of them dead.

That's not justice, that's rage.

We must not engage in rage.

It doesn't mean we can't be passionate,

but we cannot be filled with rage and anger and want to just shut them up because that's what they want to do.

How would you react hearing this on your local street corner?

With anger, with fear, anxiety, maybe even rage?

Nathan Phillips, the professional Native American activist, reacted by using the vile language that was directed at his own Native American people to make a statement, not at those speaking the words,

but a bunch of kids who were white.

who were wearing a hat that represented a wall that that particular Native American, who his particular tribe, say,

you know, he oftentimes does things that we don't agree with.

He uses tactics that we don't agree with.

He instead wanted to direct his rage

to those kids who were caught in the middle.

The Covington kids reacted with a pep rally.

Who do you think were the bigger adults that day?

Is there anyone, is there anyone anymore that has the courage to stand stand

and the courage to stand with peace?

Did you see that teen?

Did you see him stand up

and appear on the Today Show?

You want to talk about courage?

I think a little bit of insanity.

Show up on the Today Show.

Watch the video.

He was terrified.

Why?

Because just like your son, if you don't toe the line, you're not going to college.

That kid's not going to college.

He's not going to go to a college of his choice.

He could be a straight A student.

He could have

perfect, perfect SAT scores.

He could be the smartest kid in the world.

He's not going to get in the college of his choice if it happens to be an Ivy League school or any of those run by any kind of liberals.

Because

look at what he did.

He smirked.

He smirked.

He and his friends were standing against the black Israelites,

and he smirked.

Oh

my gosh.

I'm wearing a Covington Catholic school shirt.

Today, and I'm doing it for solidarity, not for the school or the archdiocese, who I think are cowards.

Jesus was nailed to a cross for the truth.

You're not willing to stand up to the truth because you're afraid of losing parishioners?

You're afraid of losing funding?

Do we need to remind you what

Jesus did as he was dying, bleeding, mocked on the cross, still kind of mentioning truth?

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Because I don't see how this just doesn't end in

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You think 2020 is going to make it better?

No, of course not.

I mean,

I think there hopefully is not a civil war.

I don't think we necessarily have to go that far.

That would be nice if we didn't.

I mean, I do think that there is a real difference between

what I see in this world when I look at social media and like this story in particular is a great example of it.

It's people absolutely denying the truth.

It's like, I mean, I know you're not going to understand this reference, but it's like watching the Saints game last weekend and being like, no, there's no password interference on that play.

Everything was fine.

It was clean play.

Like, it's impossible to look at it and think that if you're being honest, if you're being honest, it's impossible to read this one as different.

Now, maybe when you first saw it, you saw journalists, Washington Post writing headlines that they were doing these things, these terrible things.

You could absolutely be excused for assuming, and again, I think you should rethink this one next time, but assuming that a journalistic organization did some work to check out the story.

Like, I can completely understand that.

But once you see the tape, now that everything's out there, it's impossible, unless you're just dishonest, to think these kids did anything,

anything that violated any normal.

This is the Kavanaugh hearings on steroids.

Yeah.

Because you could come, I think an honest person could come out of those hearings and have a different point of view.

Yes, I agree.

It's hard for me to understand how you could think he should essentially be convicted on the amount of evidence that was out there.

However, you could think he did it.

Correct.

Because essentially, we're all at some level guessing.

Yes.

We are.

The system was set up so that when we get to a point where we're guessing, the person's innocent.

That's how it's set up.

But I mean, if you want to, you might still think he was guilty in that situation, but there weren't 40 cell phone cameras filming the supposed bedroom at the supposed party that we don't know the location of it and we don't know what time it was.

So this is like having, this is doing the Kavanaugh case, except at every party he was at, and specifically the parties that he and she were at, and specifically the party that she couldn't remember where it was at, but she suddenly remembered, and And there were 40 video cameras.

And it showed him never going upstairs.

And there was a camera always on those stairs.

And it was the only way up.

And there was a camera in the lawn of another party that showed her window and no one climbing up the wall through that window.

And he was down at a party and being with friends at the time she said he was raping her.

And on the bed.

You have to have, in this particular, to make famous, you'd have have to have a video of the actual controversial incident.

Like, you'd have to have a supposed on the bed that supposedly happened the entire time.

And you, in this case, you have all of that.

All of it.

All of it.

And you have it with the narration of the Native Americans.

You have it with the narration of the black Israelites.

And you have it with the narration of the Covington School.

You watch the Covington School students.

None of them are like, get them, get them.

Oh, yeah, stare them down.

You have the Covington school students saying, what's going on?

What's happening all of a sudden?

What's happening?

You also have the guys from the Native American group all saying, get them.

Look at these white boys.

They're just doing,

go back to Europe.

You have them on their tape saying that.

Not somebody else's tape, their tapes that they posted.

And the same with the black Israelites.

And so I think, you know, when you look at the way people on social media react and what has flared up out of this, the fact that so many have stuck to their guns despite all available evidence and

incontrovertible evidence, the fact that this played out a certain way.

That being said,

in my normal life, right?

Like in my life where I'm in interacting with people every day and going around, I don't feel that tension.

I don't feel that the whole society is breaking apart.

I go out, you know, you go to a restaurant, you hang out with friends, you talk to people.

Generally speaking, yeah, you get an occasional political arguments but that's not your every minute of everyday life unless you're diving into facebook and twitter and all these things unless you're constantly engaged in it i want to know like what you did yesterday was exactly what i wanted of a show i want someone to look at this and say i'm going to look through all this video for you i'm going to make sure that you understand and i'm going to give it to you with enough context that I'm not making the decision for you.

You're presenting all the facts to me.

And here's everything that you need to find.

I might not have two hours times 10 10 video cameras to watch all of that.

I might not have that time, but I want to have this boiled down to me in some fair way, including if the kid was a jerk, including if the kid did do something wrong.

I want to just know what the facts are in a fair way.

And I want to know that here are the time codes.

This is when, this is the film this came from, here's the whole unedited film.

Yeah.

You have to be able to have the edit so people people who are in a hurry and then the people can do their own homework and go, wait a minute, I want to see that.

I want to see what happened right before that, right after that.

So you make sure that it's all in context.

That's what we did for you yesterday.

That's what we're continuing to do.

And we're asking you, please use the video clips and send them out.

We've posted them all yesterday.

We've tweeted them.

We've Facebooked this.

Please like and share those things so they can go out.

There's no excuse for people people now.

No excuse.

Anybody who says, well, I haven't taken the time.

You don't need to take that much time.

Got five minutes?

I'll show it to you.

I know.

Or the people who say, oh, well, you can do anything with video.

Well, that's going to be the case soon, but that's not the case now.

Yeah.

And you know what?

It's okay to not take the time on a story like this.

This shouldn't be a national story.

It shouldn't.

It shouldn't be even a local story.

But don't, but

you can't convict them.

If you want to say this guy is a bad guy and the school is a bad school, then you have to take the time.

And, you know, some reporters did.

On News and Why It Matters yesterday, we went over a few of them.

Even like Jamie Lee Curtis, an actual celebrity, did this.

She came out initially and said, hey, these kids are terrible, blah, blah, blah.

And then said, wow, now I've seen the context.

I was totally wrong.

And there's two sides to every story.

Like, that's a good, at least they're taking the step.

And it did happen occasionally, but it should happen a lot more often.

Well, I don't think the press is doing that.

There's been some.

I mean, there's been some.

There's the Atlantic we talked about yesterday.

There was someone there who did it and wrote really elegant.

There's someone there.

Who did it?

I mean, I don't know how many articles they're supposed to write about the same topic, but I'll give them a break here.

This is like, you know.

It's a personal thing, though.

This is a, what's that?

That was a personal thing of somebody at The Atlantic.

Yeah, it was a personal thing.

I'm saying the New York Times should come out.

The worst one is the Washington Post.

Yes.

Who first comes out and writes this story and makes it look like just takes word for word, with no checking, the word of this Native American activist who's been in all who the next day tried to interrupt a Catholic service, a mass in progress with his drums.

An activist who had to lock the doors.

Imagine how terrified you'd be if you all of a sudden saw security rush to your church doors and they locked them and bolted them.

And then all you hear is all sorts of ruckus outside, right?

Can you imagine that?

You have no idea.

I mean, that's very American to hear that.

That's what the British did to Americans when they would be in church.

They would just lock the doors from the outside and then they'd burn it to the ground.

Yeah.

And then the Post comes out, first of all, and writes a correction saying, oh, by the way, yeah, he didn't serve and he did not fight in Vietnam.

So after he's been called, how can you attack this Vietnam veteran?

Well, now we know he was not in Vietnam.

That does not mean he was not a veteran.

We don't know the exact details of his military service, but you know, facts were wrong.

You're just believing what he says with no checking.

But beyond that, they then have the balls the next day to write a big story about this interesting little controversy that's bubbled up on social media.

Or these people, there's a lot of people who are looking at these videos and now saying they were wrong and that they've changed their mind.

Not and not the Washington Post admitting that they were wrong, that the Post was wrong, and the Post has now seen the videos and they've changed their mind.

No, it was covering from a distance this little controversy going on in social media, how people have noticed that the entire new information has come out to change a lot of people's opinion.

And isn't that an interesting thing to watch from a distance?

It was your freaking story.

You are the ones that took an absolutely meaningless interaction between a high school student and a protester that if there wasn't a red hat on his head would never have made news anywhere.

And instead, you made that into a national news story.

You forced this kid into being

threatened.

You've seen blue check marks all over the internet, threatening him to be thrown into wood chippers and wanting him to be punched in the face.

And those people are still on Twitter too.

Still on Twitter and doesn't even make a difference.

And you act as, oh, there's this, look at this interesting little cultural quirk we've discovered a day after we started it.

It's indescribable the way some people in the media have handled this.

You know, there's been a few good examples, and I think it's important because as conservatives, right,

we understand incentives, right?

That's one of the main things that is the foundation of conservatism.

Admitting that incentives actually do things.

If you tell everyone, well, your healthcare is going to be paid for by the government, they're going to use it in a way that is going to make it, so it's going to be very expensive.

We understand those things.

So, when someone who, like in the Atlantic, her name is Julie Irwin Zimmerman, when she comes out and writes something and she said, look, I reacted immediately to this, and it's like a Roshak test.

I could tell you who you voted for, what you believe on abortion, all of these things as to how you initially reacted.

But next time, I'm going to make sure that I take the steps to actually understand the story before I'm blabbing about it on Twitter.

And we should praise those people because we should incentivize.

That is good behavior.

We all make mistakes when a story comes out, but it's important to actually take that step and understand where the truth is, to care.

Because it's not even that people don't even want to look for it.

They don't even care if they found it.

And if they found the truth, if they watch those videos, they'd come up with a justification

to dig their feet in and stay where they were.

It's just not because they're saying it.

If they're not guilty about this, they're guilty about something.

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Peter Vogozhin.

You may not know his name, but you know him.

He's been in the news.

He's assistant professor of philosophy at Portland State University.

God bless him.

And his main focus is bringing the tools of professional philosophers to people in a wide variety of life situations.

He's been teaching for more than 25 years, 30,000 students.

He's been in prisons, hospitals, public and private schools, seminaries, colleges, universities, Fortune 100 companies, small businesses.

And he is focused on critical thinking.

Well, he's the guy who was part of the three scientists.

In fact, he was the lead guy on this that was trying to show that the university system has gone unhinged.

And he did show the university system and the peer review system in particular had really gone unhinged.

Just when it comes to social justice type causes, you know, he was able to place a bunch of ridiculous fake studies as long as it agreed with the sort of narrative of the left and the way they want to move things.

Even if they got completely ridiculous when it comes to feminism and gender and all of these things.

Yeah, dog parks were a very hot spot for dog rape.

Dog rape was one of them.

He put parts of Mein Kampf and said it was, well, it's my struggle.

Here's our struggle of, I think it was feminism that we tied it to.

And it was, here's a bunch of it.

And it just like re-edited some of the words from Mein Kampf, and that got, you know, that one got, one of the two he did that with, I think, got through, and the other one was in the process.

Or maybe that one was the one that was,

that there was no end to.

We'll get the details from him here in a minute.

But most of the studies got through.

Only a couple were rejected.

And most of the other ones were in the process of going through when they had to to pull the plug on the experiment.

It's an embarrassment.

So, guess who's in trouble?

Oh, all these all these peer-reviewed journals that just approved these ridiculous things.

Obviously, they're in huge trouble.

Uh-uh.

He is.

He is.

Because, well, he didn't get permission to do this.

Wait, how?

Wait, what?

I gotta place false things in your journal.

Will you approve it?

Like, I can't get permission for that.

Back with him and his crazy story coming up.

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had perpetrated what they viewed as

an important work that needed to be done.

Work that exposed how crazy things had gotten in the peer-reviewed journals and in education.

To where you couldn't question authority, but you could be you could be published even if you had crazy ideas as long as you spoke the right language.

Didn't really even have to make sense.

You could take things from Hitler, and if you couch them in the right terms and you were making a point about feminism,

you might pretty well get that thing published, peer-reviewed.

Well, the guy who is really responsible for this, really

the mastermind behind it, who started it, is

Dr.

Peter Bogozhin.

And Dr.

Bogoshan joins us now.

There's more to this story.

We covered it in the fall, but now the fallout has happened.

He's in trouble with the university, an assistant professor of philosophy at Portland State University, Dr.

Peter Bogozhin.

Doctor, how are you?

Good to talk to you.

Just a quick correction on that.

We are all equally a team on this project, and so

there's no mastermind of this.

We all participated equally.

Okay.

But you're the only one so far that's in trouble.

That's correct.

So the university system has authority over me.

They exercise dominion over me, whereas James Lindsey does not work in the academy and Helen Pluckrose does not work in the academy.

So I was clearly the most vulnerable of the three.

All right.

Now,

look, I'm sure we don't agree on a hundred million things, but

that doesn't bother me at all.

I look for people who have intellectual integrity.

And as long as you have intellectual integrity and you are married to the truth and, you know, hey, come what may, if I find that to be truth and I need to adopt that, I'm cool with that person.

That doesn't go ahead.

Sorry to interrupt you.

That's the attitude and the posture that we need to take in our universities now.

And that's not what's happening.

But isn't that what

is it the university system, they don't see themselves becoming the Catholic Church and people like you as Galileo?

Well, that's a really, really pertinent question.

And we have argued in Aereo Magazine, for example, that this is a new religion.

And so as you see the decline of the Abrahamic traditions, particularly Christianity, something has filled that void.

And I think that this makes sense in a lot of ways to view these folks as religious, really.

They kind of have an evangelism for social justice.

They have political correctness, which is blasphemy.

They have privilege, which is the analogue to original sin.

And so they're really operating in this quasi-religious context, although they don't consider themselves religious.

So when you look at it through that lens, their behavior makes sense.

And what's happening now is that universities are so

they're not

they've become social centers of social justice advocacy and not centers where people find the truth.

So they've placed an agenda ahead of the truth.

And we tried to shine a light on that because we think it's hurting people.

So

are you in the vast minority?

Are you in the majority, but the only vocal ones?

How prevalent is your philosophy?

You know, especially because if I'm not mistaken, you're on the left.

Yeah, I would consider,

I consider myself a classical liberal.

Okay.

And

that's very, what's very, well, what's very interesting is that 10, 15 years ago, I would be the guy that parents would come in to warn their kids about.

Now I'm the guy, guy, the whole institution has swung so far to the left that I'm the guy conservative and religious parents, and I wrote a manual for creating atheists.

So we have some, you and I have some substantive metaphysical disagreements.

But again, those can be worked out in conversation.

But parents come to me now and tell them that they want their kids to study with me, and it's just the most fascinating twist in the culture war.

The fact that you and I are having this conversation now is another fascinating twist in the culture war.

And I think the commonality there is we might disagree about interpretations of facts, but both you and I share rudimentary, just commonalities.

Like, we both agree there's an external world.

We both agree that your subjective experiences of the world don't trump any objective reality.

We both agree that we don't want to punch anybody being punched, right?

We want to work out our

lowest common denominator, but unfortunately it has to be said in this cultural environment.

So we both value the truth, and we both value the fact that we can have conversations in which not only can we get to the truth, but it's okay if we disagree.

I want to know what you think.

And

if I'm wrong about something, I don't want to be wrong.

This is a Sam Harris's.

You dedicated your book to him.

I don't want to be quotation.

I don't want to be wrong one second more than I have to be.

Exactly right.

And as long as we share that attitude, it's fine.

That's what Aristotle talks about, is the highest form of friendship between being between two virtuous people if both people love the truth That's ultimately the only thing that matters if they have integrity

So I I mean I'm a classic liberal as well.

I am very religious, but I don't I mean I have no I have many atheist friends

And I don't I'm not trying to save them and I'm not condemning them or whatever Just live your life man and live your life to the best that you can is what is the system that you're living under making you a better human being or a worse human being.

And I know people who are very religious who it makes them a much worse human being.

And that's what we should all be striving for is how can we respect each other's rights?

Basic human, constitutionally guarded human rights.

Leave people alone.

That is the view I share, but that is not what's coming out of these bodies of literature in what we term grievance studies.

Basically, anything that has studies at the end of it.

One of the things that is coming out of this is

an overt racism in the name of non-racism.

It's an anti-male.

Basically, it's identifying people on the basis of their immutable characteristics.

For example, their skin color or some fact, right?

Martin Luther King's dream is absolutely dead right now.

That's right.

That's correct.

It's not that we judge people on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

It's the other way around.

But what's worse than that is that we see from these bodies of literature, and this is really what I want people to understand.

People think, well, why does this affect me?

Well, it affects you because this stuff is being taught in school to our kids, and they don't develop robust defenses of their ideas.

They don't even...

Many people who have alternative opinions, for example, conservatives or libertarians or Christians, they don't feel comfortable voicing those opinions in the classroom.

So not only do students, other students, not get the benefit of learning why people believe things, right?

That's the philosophy you're going to harm us.

We want to speak to people so that we understand where they're coming from.

And when you understand where your someone's coming from, especially in this incredibly polarized environment, it's much easier to look at them as people, to understand their points of view, and to have compassion toward them.

And if you look at the literature coming out of these fields, there's no mercy, there's no compassion, there's a weird sense of redemption if you're quote unquote woke.

But

these bodies of literature are causing contention, they're causing damage, they're hurting people.

And that's why we decided to do this project, because someone needed to shine a spotlight on this.

Okay.

Let me just take a quick minute break, one minute break, and then we're going to come back.

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The Glenn Beck program with Dr.

Peter Bogoshin.

So you did this experiment where you showed that you could pretty much get anything published.

And instead of that being a shockwave

through the peer-reviewed

system,

you instead

start receiving incoming fire from the system saying,

you betrayed us.

Right.

So just a small correction or maybe a large correction, not that we could get anything published, but we could get anything that was morally fashionable published.

Correct, correct.

So if it espouses feminist dogma, it's far more likely to be published.

Sure.

I'm not going to get anything published if you published something that was religious or whatever and not in fashion.

You couldn't get that published.

You couldn't even get some of the other stuff published until you really zeroed in on exactly the right language.

Correct?

Yeah, we figured out what the core tenets of their belief system are.

And, you know,

I can tell you this, and many listeners probably won't believe it, but it's the biology denialism is big, and hatred of men is big.

And,

you know, in the dog park paper, the paper that received the most attention, we argued that we should train men like dogs.

That was big.

So

there's just,

if you know what to write about, and you know what morally resonates with them, then they'll just accept it.

Boom, hook, hook, line, and sinker.

And that's unfortunate again because seven papers in seven years usually means tenure at most institutions.

And then these folks in the grieving studies complex start teaching these papers to kids.

They then use that as homework and they study and they test them on it, and then they come to think it's knowledge, right?

So they don't need faith in this sense.

They just, well, how do you know that?

Not because I have faith.

Well, here, it's in this piece of evidence, boom, and they point to it.

So what did your university say?

Well, they brought me up on charges, but I think it's really important to give some background so that people have a context for this.

First, there was an anonymous collective of Portland State University faculty who wrote really a slanderous, open letter about me that you can still read it.

It's online in the Portland State University Vanguard.

They pictured me as an evil villain, and they put this nose on me, and they said, you know, snake oil, et cetera, et cetera.

and they the the letter was really aimed at students to tell them that i

having me on the faculty was demeaning to their education but i'll let people read that that um that for themselves so i think that's kind of the context that excuse me there are bullies these people are fundamentally they're bullies and in this case they're anonymous so they're not just bullies they're cowards and they're operating behind the scenes and so i'm sure that that

that that and other things that I don't have access to put tremendous pressure on the administrators to do something to me.

So I don't necessarily blame them for an investigation.

I do understand that they're under a lot of pressure.

But do you blame them for cowardice?

I mean, truth is truth.

It's like the Covington School right now.

They're worried about losing their funding and everything else.

They don't know which side to come out on.

If you watched all of the videos, and I watched, I mean, my team watched all of of it, it's a very different story.

Now, these kids may be bad other times, but they weren't then.

And I'm sorry, but if it's the truth, not to stand is to stand.

Right.

So that's a commonality that we have.

We both defer to what's true independent of our own personal feelings.

Correct.

So in this case, there were two things.

There was

I was found guilty of not going to the IRB, and the IRB is basically this human subjects board.

And anytime you do experiments, quote-unquote experiments on human subjects, you need to get permission.

And so we looked at this as, and this has caused considerable controversy and debate.

We looked at investigating certain fields and certain journals and certain conclusions that the journals come to.

They viewed human subjects as the journal editors.

So I was found guilty of that, and currently that's escalated to the President and the Provost of Portland State University.

So

and they may or may not impose additional sanctions on me.

We can talk about that.

The second charge of data fabrication is ongoing.

And

I have not received anything.

I don't know where that stands.

I know that when I decided to go public with this,

that

the support that I have gotten has been unbelievable.

Truly, truly humbling and amazing from all over the spectrum.

Political spectrum, ideological spectrum, religious spectrum.

So I have to say that.

Those, frankly, are the most touching and satisfying to me.

They all start, you know, we don't agree or we have many points of disagreement, but

what you have done, I really appreciate, and we need alternative voices in the academy.

So people really are fed up with this.

But Glenn, what's really interesting about this is that as the letters of support flood in and they're going to

the man who spearheaded the investigation and some to my boss, the chair of the philosophy department, people are signing their names to these.

That's what's amazing to me about this.

That people are no longer, they're no longer afraid to be called a racist or a homophobe or a misogynist.

So when they sign their names to this, they're doing so in a very public way.

They're giving me a very public show of support.

And people just aren't scared anymore.

So

that's been

an amazing sea change in this whole thing.

Courage is contagious.

And people, I truly believe, most people who are thoughtful, want to do the right thing.

They don't want to be a pariah.

They don't want to stand alone.

And it takes just a few leaders to stand up and say, guys, it's worth it because here's what it means.

You know, I'm very concerned about what our future is going to hold for my kids.

I don't care about my future at this point.

I care about the future of my kids, the future of the truth.

If we don't get a handle on this, I mean, what happened

in Portland to the Weinsteins is obscene.

Yes, and most people don't know

what happened.

And they were holding, I mean, it was like France.

They were holding little mock trials in the library.

People, you know, professors were not allowed to leave.

It's frightening.

Exactly.

And I really want to say, I think this is important.

This may be very hard for people to conceptualize or very hard for people to understand.

But once you put the element of a kind of evangelism to this, it makes sense.

Mike Nina just released a video.

If you go to his YouTube channel, it's Mike Nina.

One of the things that he shows in this video is how these,

what happened at Evergreen to Bretton Heather, perfectly parallels the

evangelical or a radical religious fervor.

Yes.

And once you understand that, you understand why people act like that.

Yep.

Peter, I would love to have you in for a very long, non-interrupted conversation.

Thank you for being on the program,

and thank you for taking a stand.

Back in a minute.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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Tonight at 5 o'clock television,

I'm going to show you some things that no one else will show you

about who these kids were actually facing, these

kids from Covington Catholic School.

The stuff that the media just does not want to cover.

We have to support these kids.

Have to.

We don't have to support the school.

Maybe you want to.

I just got a letter from a...

Just got a letter from a father just a minute ago who said, Glenn, we've been listening to you on the way in.

He said, thank you so much for bringing the truth to light regarding Covington Catholic.

I feel compelled to tell you the conversation that took place in my car today when I took my son to school this morning.

Incidentally, my son attended the March for Life in Washington, D.C.

this past weekend.

I looked over at him and he looked physically nervous on the ride in.

I asked him if he was.

He said he was very nervous.

I told him, son, you don't have to go to school

today.

The principal said they sent out last night, no student had to show up for school if they felt uneasy or fearful.

Even if the parents were unsure, he understood.

He said,

My son looked at me and said, Dad,

I could stay home.

But if I do,

the jerks win.

I am nervous, but I'm going anyway.

Glenn, I just wanted to show you the character of these fine young men at the high school, and I'm so proud to support them and send my son son to this school.

Dan,

I hope the school does stand with you and the Archdiocese.

I'd love to support the school in any way.

And I would, if the school does take a stand on this and they do come to the right conclusion on this,

I would suggest to you that our audience will help you build security that is appropriate for that school.

We've done it for Jewish schools.

Why we wouldn't do it for a Christian school that I think is going to be under attack for a long time.

And we just stand with you.

I urge you to stand with Covington as well.

You can go to Glenbeck.com and there is a Covington Strong t-shirt and hat

and wear it and wear it proudly and wear it boldly.

And if people ask you about it, don't argue.

Just say, have you seen the video?

Because let me show you the video.

And if people aren't interested in the video, they just want to fight, walk away.

But we need to show these guys that we stand with them.

And I'd love to get pictures of you when you get your t-shirt in, take pictures of you wherever.

And let's overwhelm these students with, you've got fans all around the country.

You're not alone.

You're not alone.

I want to change the subject and play a little bit of what Brett Baer said last night.

He was on the way home from a skiing trip with his family, and the car slid on ice and flipped over.

And a good Samaritan helped pull the family out, and everyone's okay, but it was a very dicey situation for a while.

Here's what Brett Baer said on his return last night.

As we were released from the hospital, I tweeted this.

Don't take anything for granted.

Every day is a blessing.

Family is everything.

It's always good to remind yourself of that before something does it for you.

Count your blessings.

And I meant it.

May I

first say, Bret, you have been in my prayers, and I think many in this audience prayers, and he's a good, good man.

But it is interesting what he says, and it's easy to dismiss what he says.

I said to my wife last week,

honey, we have had some real...

trouble in the last few years.

We've really gone through some real difficult times.

But I can't tell you the last time that I cried out to the Lord, where I just begged for help.

And that usually only happens when you have a crisis in your family.

I mean a real crisis with your children, where you are crying out to the Lord, you know, I'll trade my life for theirs.

And that moment puts it all into perspective.

Had a situation with both of my daughters here recently.

One daughter went in, we thought she had an appendix that was about to go, and brought her in, and it wasn't the appendix.

And then we thought it was the ovaries, and thought for a minute that they were going to have to they had the possibility of taking her ovaries.

And I'm like, this is my twelve-year-old daughter.

It turned out not to be that, and it was something else.

And

I cried out to the Lord,

and it is so clarifying those moments.

The next day,

my eldest daughter went into the hospital for testing.

She has epilepsy and it's bad.

And she's 30 and she's just, you know, she struggles to live an ordinary life.

And she just wants them to end.

And we've tried all kinds of medicine and it hasn't worked.

And

so she went in for a test, and uh

they pushed her, and pushed her, and pushed her, and pushed her to try to get her to have a seizure.

She had three seizures in the end, she was in for, I think, seven days, ten days,

and she had such great spirit.

But all I wanted to do was be with her the whole time.

Now she has to go in for five other tests, and uh

one of them will be a minimum of twenty days in the hospital.

They do

I don't even know what they call it now, but a type of brain surgery where they're implanting these

wires in her head to be able to monitor it

inside her brain.

And she's going to have to be awake for the operation and then

20 to 30 days of testing in the hospital.

I don't know.

As her dad, I want to be there every second of it.

And

so

I have a lot of people depending on that I show up to work every day.

So I will be here.

But

I ask for your

understanding

on this.

And I ask for your prayers for my daughters, both of them.

But I echo the words of Brett Baer.

You just d don't wait for it to remind you.

Let this be your reminder

that

family's everything.

Family is absolutely everything.

And we get lost

so easily.

And when something happens in a blink of an eye,

you recognize, like we did at September 11th about our freedom, you recognize, oh my gosh, this is so fragile.

It's not always going to be like this.

One more thing.

I want to thank UT Medical and the Zale Lipshe Hospital for epilepsy.

This is the greatest crew of doctors and nurses I have ever experienced.

They were unbelievable.

These nurses were just incredible,

as are the doctors.

But

modern medicine is a miracle.

Before we throw it away,

let's just also take a moment and recognize there's no such thing as exploratory surgery anymore.

That alone is a miracle.

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Well, we are not really even in the presidential primary race yet, and we already have nine Democrats.

And do we have a tenth one?

Ninth one.

Ninth one today.

Yep.

Peter Buttijudge.

Oh, I love you.

I'm a huge, huge fan.

Buttigudge.

I don't exactly know how to pronounce his name, although people are tossing around many different ones.

But he is the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

You know, normally if a mayor of a non-gigantic city

enters the race, most people don't take them as serious candidates.

I mean, Julian Castro is in the race.

He was former mayor of San Antonio.

He's been taken relatively seriously.

Butajudge has a lot of

support.

He would be the first gay president, for example, if he were to win.

He's a military veteran.

He's the youngest mayor of a city his size.

I think it's over 100,000.

And he would be the youngest president ever elected if he were to win.

Also, he had some has had multiple big figures like Barack Obama mention him specifically as one of the future people in the party to watch.

So that's kind of he's trying to get, he's trying to introduce himself to everyone.

But he does have some support within the Democratic Party.

So we have nine candidates now.

He's kind of putting them in categories of

kind of the favorites.

You have a shot.

You have a shot if everything goes right.

You basically have no shot and

no shot at all.

So that's what I've gone through.

Five categories.

Five categories, nine candidates.

Yes.

How many categories have a candidate in it?

Five categories have a candidate in it.

I think like over time, this is going to grow.

And I think the interesting part about this is you've got nine candidates now, but really only three you'd consider generally top-tier candidates.

So there's going to be, I think

we have 20?

There's 17.

So I think they're going to clear that easily.

I think they'll hit 30.

They may hit 30 candidates for this thing.

I think it's possible.

So starting off at the bottom, no real shot at all.

I would put Andrew Yang.

He is a tech entrepreneur, but a guy I think you'd find interesting.

Probably wouldn't agree with him on a lot, but he's a guy who's really concerned about what artificial intelligence is going to do to our job markets.

He's a guy you've been talking about, not specifically, but a guy you've been talking about for a while who this tech entrepreneur type that is saying, look, AI is going to wipe out all these jobs.

We better have universal basic income.

Yeah, in my book, I've said, I've talked about that candidate.

I said, any candidate who says, oh, these jobs, don't worry about it, and I'm going to bring more back, is either a fool or a liar because AI is going to wipe jobs out like crazy in the next 10 years.

And so I don't don't know anything about him.

I'm sure you disagree with Shots, but I disagree with Universal Basic Income.

It just doesn't work.

However,

we do have to have that conversation.

He'd be interesting if we had conversations with him.

Concerns are aligned at some level.

Yes, because that's at least an honest look at the future.

Richard O'Heda, he's a state senator from West Virginia, or he was a state senator from West Virginia.

He's kind of in the race as the, if you remember Webb, who ran a few years ago,

he was like a military guy, and he was kind of running as a I'm a sane Democrat.

He does a

former military guy as well, and that's kind of his position right now.

And John Delaney, who was a former Maryland congressman, kind of a rich guy, business guy.

White guy,

okay.

So those are the three.

Basically, no shot.

Then we go to almost no shot.

And in that category, I have only Tulsi Gabbard from Hawaii.

Now, she is a young Bernie Sanders type,

you know, friendly to the camera.

Very,

she has had some issues with,

she's the one that her dad ran an anti-gay thing or organization of some level.

So she's had some controversy within the Democratic ranks, but she's very, very super Bernie Sanders liberal, but not enough recognition.

If everything goes right, this category, I've got Julian Castro.

who has been talked about as an up-and-coming guy for a long time

and has some experience.

He was a head head of HUD under Obama.

He

was mayor of San Antonio.

So, I mean, I don't know if there's a miracle situation, like the Hail Mary goes up, could be caught with Julian Castro.

This wouldn't be really the first Hispanic candidate because we've never had a Hispanic candidate run, really.

I mean,

not a serious contender.

And Betto's not in the race yet, so we don't have any other serious Hispanics here.

I mean, besides Ted Cruz.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about him.

Peter Buddhajudge, who we just talked about.

He, again, again, because of his sort of, you know, the fact that people like Obama are mentioning him by name, I think you put him in the if everything goes right category.

Then has a shot.

Do I really think Elizabeth Warren has a shot?

I mean, I can't imagine her winning this primary.

She's just so terrible.

She's such a bad candidate.

Forget her policies.

She's a terrible candidate.

I can't imagine someone with the same policies can't just beat her.

But she's a top-tier candidate in that people know her name.

She will never get all her money

with Donald Trump.

No one.

She is the dream matchup of Donald Trump.

She is.

If you want to make sure Donald Trump wins, she's the one to pick.

Yes, if you're going to take one of these top-tier candidates, there's no better path for Trump to win than

Elizabeth Warren.

And also I put in the has a shot category, Kirsten Gillibrand from New York.

Again, I don't think it's going to happen.

She has a shot at it because she's a relatively big name and can raise some money.

And she was big on the Me Too movement.

Her record really changed from sort of moderate to conservative Democrat to, I'm Bernie Sanders.

Once she started thinking about running for president, which is an interesting thing that I don't really care about because I think they probably both sucked, both of her personas.

But

if you're a

voter in a Democratic primary, do you really want to take a chance that someone who's once thought of something conservative or moderate could be your president?

Like, I don't think they want that.

So

I doubt it.

I doubt she has a chance.

She has been very active in the Me Too movement, but but that's to the negative because

she's being criticized by the left for ousting Al Franken.

She was kind of responsible for that.

So they don't like her because they liked Al Franken.

Who cares if he's molesting people?

And the favorites, I would say, the only favorite I think is in there in that group is Kamala Harris.

And she, we've talked about her before, relatively personable, has a prosecutor background, which is, you know, a good matchup for someone who's under pressure of Donald Trump.

She's on the side of police.

So, I mean, that's a little problematic.

A little problematic.

She's going to have to deal with that.

Yeah.

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