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I would like to hear a more than 10-second thought

version of that argument.

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All right.

Let's just look at the weekend.

Let's just look at the weekend.

What happened?

We had

Ben Shapiro, a good friend of ours, say something about pro-life and pro-life people.

It was taken out of context.

It was run up every flagpole, and he actually lost sponsors because of a statement that he made and here it is he made the statement the pro-life statement that uh

you know the guys who are standing up for pro-life they believe in life they wouldn't have even killed hitler as a baby

oh my gosh that's horrible

they wouldn't have even killed hitler No,

as he went on to say, they would have said, let's put him in a good home.

Give him good parents.

You know, if you could go back in a time machine, would you kill Hitler?

No, we don't kill innocent babies.

And we don't kill people who have not yet committed crimes either.

What a minority report.

How is this controversial?

First of all, he's Jewish.

He's also the victim of the most anti-Semitic attacks in the entire media.

The argument is, what?

He's pro-Hitler?

I mean, how

stupid do you have to be to believe these things?

So there's strike one.

There's strike one.

Strike two.

Actually, that should be strike three.

Strike two because I want to count up.

Counting them up to the biggest outrage of the weekend.

Strike two

is the women's march.

So the women's march happens this weekend.

And they actually get on stage and they are actually

saying anti-Semitic things.

Now,

we have said

long ago, you don't know who these people are.

You don't know who these people are.

Look at who they are.

We've been saying this from the beginning.

You have a women's march led by these people.

You don't want to be in bed with those people.

Oh, we were crazy.

They were the greatest leaders, literally, the greatest leaders in the world.

Named by Fortune magazine.

The greatest leaders in the world.

Well, now the left has decided, I shouldn't say the left, now the Democrats are starting to say, these guys are really anti-Semites.

They're really, really bad.

And why are they saying that?

Not because we're saying it, because we have them on tape saying it, sitting while it's being said, and then defending what was said while they were sitting.

It's crazy.

So the whole thing starts to shimmy apart.

The Democrats start to run for their lives.

And what do the Women's March do?

They get up and they say more anti-Semitic things.

And the media says

nothing.

Okay, wait a minute.

Ben Shapiro

saying that the pro-life people have such ethics that they believe that innocence

is at birth, that

babies are innocent and they shouldn't be killed, and they believe that so much, they wouldn't even kill baby Hitler.

That is a normal human being thing to say.

That is like how many, how many

crappy sci-fi shows

are on,

you know, like didn't

it's it's almost like a it could be a Star Trek where we've got, oh my gosh, we found ourselves in a time tunnel, and all of a sudden we're back in 1939.

Doctor Who has done this, everybody has done this.

We don't kill innocent children is always the conclusion so the anti-semites saying anti-semitic things gets nothing

ben shapiro

saying non-anti-semitic things

is basically called an anti-semite

For sticking up for babies.

Baby Hitler.

Unfreaking believable.

And now to the number one outrage of the weekend.

Oh, yeah.

The number one outrage of the weekend has to be

the kids from just across the water at Cincinnati, from the Catholic school,

who are,

in my opinion, Martin freaking Luther King.

These kids are amazing kids.

What?

They were mocking a Native American.

No, they weren't.

No, they weren't.

First of all, this particular Native American has a history of doing these things.

These were professionals.

fessionals going up a bunch of kids and the kids acted admirably.

Okay, so let me just give you this.

I'm going to give you all of the tape to prove all of these things.

First of all,

what we have is the picture of the kid looking defiant,

sneering at the poor old Vietnam veteran Native American with his drum.

All he was doing was playing his drum.

And look at the sneer on face well if you happen to watch all of the videotape and you could spend about two hours I spent about 45 minutes watching it

you kind of come back with a different impression

first of all the Native American walked up to the kid

Okay, the kid wasn't blocking his way.

The group of Native Americans walked up to the group of kids, intentionally trying to antagonize them.

You don't believe me?

Well,

let me just give you

a couple of things.

They were yelling, these are babies made out of incest.

The boy ran down the steps.

You can't see the angels around us.

A black man said,

You all have one N-word in the crowd.

Your president, homosexuals.

These kids, as I will show you

with the audio, these kids held their ground.

This kid, I watched the entire confrontation with the kid that is now famous, his face.

This kid stood there just to say, you don't intimidate me

because that's what the Native American group was trying to do.

They were saying, you don't belong here.

Go back to Europe.

All of these things.

Can you imagine?

Go back to Mexico.

That's what you were supposed to hear.

Gee, build that wall.

Never happened.

Never happened.

They weren't chanting that.

Instead, the Native Americans were saying to the white kids, go back to Europe.

They didn't report that.

So, what happened?

They marched up.

They were trying to get them to swing.

And that kid would not swing.

He smiled once, probably because he was in a stare-down with an old Native American who was beating a drum.

And he had to have thought to himself at one point, this guy's an adult.

This is ridiculous.

I'm standing on this.

I'm just here in Washington.

I'm not just, we're getting ready to go home.

And I'm standing here with this guy and all of these people screaming at us this is crazy and you hear many on many of the videotapes people in the crowd going what the hell is going on the boys the Catholic boys going what is going on because they were all of a sudden under attack

I'm gonna play the audio when we come back of one of the kids One of the kids actually engaging because another Native American starts calling him names.

And so he starts using reason.

And that's when the boy in the photo breaks.

Oh my gosh.

All you had to do was watch about two minutes of tape, but that was too much.

Too much for the mainstream media to do.

These kids are Martin Luther King, and do we need to remind you who he was?

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So who was Martin Luther King?

Who was he?

I'm interested in seeing your, because I mean, what's your explanation as to why these kids are Martin Luther King?

I certainly haven't heard that one in the media.

No, no.

No, nor will you.

But if you watch them,

you will.

Because they.

Peaceful.

They never struck back.

In fact, several times in watching the video, you will hear leaders, and I don't mean adult leaders, I mean kids who were taking a leadership position.

They're just a bunch of kids standing around waiting for a bus.

That's what's happening here.

They didn't organize to all be a part of something.

They were already done with what they were doing.

So now here's a group of kids on their own waiting for the buses by the Lincoln Memorial.

And you will hear several times in the tape kids saying to other kids, don't engage them.

Don't engage.

Don't engage.

Don't do it.

It's impressive.

Stop.

It's really impressive.

This school, first of all, the school condemned the kids without having knowledge.

And I understand the pressure the school was under, etc., etc., but you should have waited.

You should have waited and had more faith in your kids.

And I hope that you have a rally when you get back, when they all get back to school today or tomorrow, and you have a rally and you say to them, congratulations, you stood exactly the way Jesus Christ would have stood.

I don't know if Jesus Christ is smirking as much as that kid, but that's how I would have been in high school.

That kid was not smirking.

I think he kind of was, but I didn't.

that didn't.

If you look, there's an absurdity of that moment when you're in it that would make me, I know in high school in particular, I would totally, the only thing I would be thinking about is the absurdity of what it looked like.

That's, I think, what he is smiling about.

If you watch the tape, you can see that moment, and it's a fleeting moment.

Okay.

And it is truly had to be.

If you watch it, everybody's had this.

You've had this smirk.

Yeah.

And it's not making fun.

It's just like, this is insane.

Yeah.

The situation I'm in the middle of is crazy.

Correct.

He's not making fun of this Native American at all.

You have to say something.

You can't smile to make fun of someone.

You have to say something.

You have to express some level of derogatory thought.

And he never does that.

Okay.

So these kids, they're shouting about their school.

They're doing a chant about their school.

The Native Americans walk up.

And you can hear them taunting these white kids, okay?

But only the kids on the periphery may, and I say may,

be aware because it's cacophony.

And so if you're following the cameras from the Native American point of view, you're hearing them talk about these kids and talk about how these white kids are bad, blah, blah, blah.

These just white kids.

But the kids are engaged in just doing school spirit stuff.

Okay.

And they're chanting about their school.

The Native Americans then walk up and the guy is doing the drum.

And he happens to be, he's not planning it, I'm sure, it just happens to fall in beat with the kids' chants.

So at first, the kids are all thinking, this is cool.

This Native American guy is coming up and he's helping us with a chant.

And you can hear them.

Some of the kids say,

yeah, some of the kids are like, this is so cool.

They think the Native American is a friend.

Because their chance essentially were to drown out the other, the third group,

the black Jews.

Yeah,

Hebrew Israelites or whatever.

They're saying things like, you know, gay slurs and all sorts of things.

They are unquestionably doing really bad things.

Yes.

And so they decided to do this school spirit thing to drown that out.

And they thought initially this Native American was helping them because they were on the good side of things.

And they thought the drum, which it was, if you listen to it, it was keeping beat.

Now, it just, I think it just happened to be that way.

I don't know.

But it seemed, if you were in the crowd, that it was just doing, that he was on their side.

The kids even say, this is so cool.

Then, because of the taunts, you realize, oh, these guys aren't friends.

But not everybody, because if you watch multiple cameras done by the kids some of the kids get it much earlier other kids all the way to the end are saying what the hell is what's going on what's happening okay nobody knows what's happening

this kid I think I haven't spoken to him but I think he knows what's going on and he knows you're not going to you're not going to do this man we're not going to break but it's so important

that you hear

one of the kids being yelled at by the Native Americans.

And can you give me, Sarah, can you ask Mike which one it is where the kid

actually says, I've got so many cuts here, where the kid says,

don't, don't do it.

The drum is being beaten.

One of the kids is being taunted, and he's being taunted.

And what the Native American says is,

you white people, you're just being white.

The only way you know how to react is white.

And you think this is your land?

This isn't your land.

Get off our land.

Go back to Europe.

So one of the kids, very reasonably,

very calmly says, no, this isn't, this is everybody's land.

And the Native American says, we were here first.

You took our land.

And the kid says, so wait a minute, can we just go back in time?

Let's go back to Africa, where all the continents were together, and we were all one people.

And we've all traveled from there.

So were we stealing land then?

I mean, it's everybody's land.

That is when the guy who is standing in front of the Indian with a drum,

that's the only time he breaks and he puts his hand up and looks at the kid and says, Hey, stop it.

Stop it.

Meaning, don't engage.

Don't.

They're just trying to get you angry.

Don't.

When the kid continues to respond reasonably,

that's when the kid who is sneering at the Native American turns around and says, come on, let's go.

And leaves.

That's exactly what Martin Luther King would do.

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oh man this this video you have to watch the entire video i'll send it out i'll tweet it out you have to watch the entire video of what happened with these kids from covington it is an outrageous lie and yes i know media it's martin Luther King Day.

And so you're going to take my words and twist them.

But I stand by my words.

These kids, from every indication that I have seen, behaved exactly like Martin Luther King would want kids to behave.

They were kind in the face of people who were trying to get them to strike back.

Read the quote from the Native American guy, who is a liar.

He is a liar.

And CNN should be ashamed and angry at him and angry at their producer before they ran to put him in a studio.

And I think CNN at least has reported accurately some of these things.

It was Washington Post, right?

It was the first kind of big story.

But CNN had the Native American guy in the chair doing an interview.

That means you had time to find him, book him, get him a car, get him to a studio, and put him in, and no one had the time to watch the video.

Oh, I think, uh, I think I don't think he was hard to find.

I think this is a media performance, right?

But this is what he says: I was getting ugly, and I was thinking, I've got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial.

I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse.

He just blocked my way and wouldn't allow me to retreat.

So he was in front of you, but he wouldn't allow you to go backwards.

Right.

The guys who were behind you, if you watch the video made by, I think it was the Native Americans,

because it seems to be moving with their group.

Yeah.

You can hear them target this group.

They are targeting these kids and they are mocking these kids.

I'm not saying the guy with the drum was because he was singing his song.

Everybody else with him were targeting and mocking these kids.

They definitely targeted them.

Yes, they were the aggressors.

They went right to these kids.

The kids thought that they were supporting them standing against the other guys who were just horrible.

They were taunting the kids and trying to get them to fight.

And so they just started chanting.

Their school's pride stuff to drown those guys out because they were so horrible.

Listen to this.

Cut, let's go with cut seven.

Serious mockery.

Look how they mock Sir's mockery.

With their make America great again,

serious mockery.

Look at that.

America will be destroyed by nuclear thermal destruction.

That's right.

Nuclear destruction.

America will be destroyed by nuclear destruction.

Mockery.

Okay.

They then go on to say, that's right.

There's nothing.

these guys are nothing but a bunch of future school shooters.

Yeah, that's right, that's your future.

That's what they're saying in the background.

Cut eight, please.

He said, this racist, what the hell is all this?

What the hell is you see of crackers with Make America great hand here?

Crackers.

Yeah, you're a cracker.

He's a cracker.

All of you crackers.

Y'all got one in the crowd.

That's not racist.

One, the hunt.

You got one crowd.

Oh, you you got two in the crowd

two black people in the crowd oh you got two black people you're nothing but uh crackers so you're not hearing the kids chant back because the kids actually move to surround the native americans or i'm sorry the african americans in their group to protect them okay so what are they doing they just surround them to make sure nobody gets hurt now listen to this cut nine i'm gonna give y'all something, check this out.

Go on YouTube and look up Donald Trump Kisses Drag.

You're going to see your president kiss Rudy Giuliani dressed in a drag.

Drag cares.

Your president is a homosexual.

I got a homosexuality.

Listen to them laugh.

Then they're like, who cares?

And you hear them start to hiss a bit.

They are defending the right to be homosexual.

They later go on in something that I'm not going to play because it's just too vile.

They go on to

call homosexuals awful, awful names.

And the kids boo them

and say they're people.

They're people.

Wow.

Tell me that these kids are hateful.

Hateful of whom?

Hateful of whom?

They are being hated on because they are white.

That is the definition of being a racist.

They're being targeted because they're wearing MAGA hats.

That's a fact that you've glossed over this whole time, though.

MEGA hats are akin to murder.

If you're wearing a MAGA hat, you may have well, you may just as well have stabbed someone to death

because

that's the kind of person you are.

They basically just applied their worst beliefs of what a MAGA hat represents and just said that it all happened.

I mean, they're all just like, yeah, that happened.

They started chanting these things.

I mean, think about just from.

Everybody was on board with it just because they're wearing the MAGA hats.

Yeah.

And the media, and obviously your typical internet celebrities were terrible on this, but it's like, forget even the actual confrontation.

He's standing there.

This guy walks up to the MAGA hat guy.

There's no question about it.

You see it in everything.

He's beating a drum in his face.

In his face is an important part of this, right?

If you're beating a drum and it's down by your waist, right?

Like, it's one thing.

To put the drum right in his face and keep hitting it over and over and over again.

He's usually the aggressor.

The whole time.

The whole time.

And the fact that the media just ran with his narrative, and think about what he did.

He said the things that I was talking about, where he's saying they were chanting build the wall and they were saying all these terrible things.

They didn't say that.

It's not anywhere on video, as CNN now admits.

But in addition to that, like he then goes to the media, runs to the media, says he was thinking about his wife who just died of cancer during this moment.

And they just report it as if

it's true without any evidence supporting it other than just his word.

Yeah.

And just assuming because he's on the right side of history, right?

He doesn't like Donald Trump, that you can just trust him and take him at his word.

That's not how the world works.

What was the original charge of mocking, that the kid was standing there smiling at him?

Yeah.

He didn't hit him.

He didn't yell epitaphs at him.

No.

In fact, he didn't do anything.

He was part of a group that was doing the opposite.

They were trying to defuse the situation.

By the way,

have you seen

Cuban Avenger on Twitter?

This is still out.

Where they have taken all of the faces of the kids that they could grab from the crowd

and they have numbered them and they have said, if I may quote,

Reporter, Special Dark Projects Desk, Gizmodo Media, Republic of Lies, Conspiracy Theories in America.

Here are the faces.

Who are these children?

So they're asking, they're asking people if you have a, here's one, if you have a school yearbook for Covington Catholic High School, my email is this.

Then, then

you also have Congressman John Yarmuth.

I don't even know who he is.

Who is he?

Congressman John Yarmuth.

I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats until we figure out what's going on.

Because the MAGA hat, this I'm quoting, the MAGA hat seems to be poisoning young minds.

That is just crazy stuff.

Can you imagine if these were the Parkland kids and somebody on the right had treated David Hogg and Emily Gonzalez in a similar way?

Oh my gosh.

It's unthinkable what they'd be going through right now.

Unthinkable.

And these guys,

and they already did that to the Parkland shooter kids.

They already defended them when people were saying no, Lynn.

Not just some people.

Oh, I don't know.

Maybe a senator like Marco Rubio who was saying no.

And the kid got up, sneered in his face, and said, you're just on the dole of the NRA.

Who got defended there?

Not the senator.

The kid.

The kid did.

Absolutely.

It's amazing, too, that the media doesn't get angry

at the BS coming their way.

This makes them look bad, right?

If anyone looks at the facts of this, it makes them look bad.

And yes, the person's coming from your side of this issue, essentially, trying to beat up on Donald Trump supporters.

But, like, don't you get angry when someone comes and you report this and then you look horrible?

No.

Instead, they just dig in and

get around.

I know I do.

We've had incidents with prominent conservatives over the years

in which they...

I still get hammered.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I still get hammered.

Yeah, where conservatives have tried to get a narrative out there that we thought they were credible, and we started reporting on their stuff.

It didn't turn out to be right.

And it caused a decade-long rift between certain people.

And to the point of like, it's still a major issue.

And it's like these things.

When someone burns you on your own side, you should be furious at them.

They should be doing they should be out there absolutely wrecking uh these protesters that were on their side not to mention uh the uh the the particular guy who went and blatantly lied to them even if you want to say the media has the best intentions in the world and the best reading you can have from this is they got a report from a guy and they just went with it which is terrible that's not that's not journalism but if that happens and you know now that this isn't true how are you not pissed off at this guy he's made you look like fools because of postmodernism they don't care they don't have They don't care.

So

let me just go on with Congressman John Yarmuth, because this guy should be held accountable.

The conduct we saw in this video is beyond appalling.

You didn't watch the video, Congressman.

You clearly didn't.

But it didn't happen in a vacuum.

This is a direct result of the racist hatred displayed daily by the President of the United States.

You're wrong on both accounts.

You are supporting the wrong person.

But then his conclusion is we should ban the MAGA hat from cheerleaders.

Well,

from teenagers.

Let me just quote something here, Congressman.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited to it by the states are reserved to the states respectively or to the people.

I am today calling for a complete shutdown of politicians who are trying to circumvent the Constitution of the United States of America.

And I'm damn serious.

I am sick and tired of hearing these, quote, representatives who swear an oath not to uphold my opinion, their opinion, their party's opinion, anybody else's opinion.

They swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

And then you go on half cocked

and not watching a video in a responsible position and you you say you want to ban hats until we figure it out i say we ban congress until we find out what the hell is happening

amen

amen to that

seriously

i mean but isn't this a clear indication why we must do so much homework we have to do a hundred times

they don't do the research that they do because it doesn't matter when they get things wrong but it could end careers when we get things wrong.

So I wrote today to the guy who's ahead of the Blaze and said, the Blaze should be focused on setting the narrative straight.

There are a couple of people who have made it their weekend to set the narrative straight, but you need the video and you need it in a consumable way.

You have to have the video that shows the things that I saw.

I watched about 45 minutes.

I didn't even watch the full two hours.

I got a life.

I watched 45 minutes of it.

You watched just 45 minutes, and it's a completely different story.

So where are the highlights?

We will have the highlights for you.

Not just, hey, watch it this time, watch it this time, watch it this time.

Here it is.

And we'll give you the full unedited video in case, well, that's just an out of context.

Yeah, well, it's not out of context.

And if these mainstream journalists aren't doing that, what what are they doing?

What are they doing?

What are they doing?

And what they're doing is advocacy.

Yes.

Right?

That's the problem.

This is supposed to be their role.

A guy comes to you and says, hey, I was harassed and they were yelling things at me and all the claims that this guy said.

It's the journalist's job not to write that story then.

You go and you watch all the videos and then you say, wait a minute, these five things he said aren't true.

That's your job.

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And this is one member of the media who actually watched the video.

And if they would have misbehaved, the Trump hat isn't like, you know, some, like kryptonite.

It's not gonna stop me from seeing or acting on the truth.

I wanna know what the truth is.

And when I saw the media reports, I was outraged.

I am proud to say those kids acted like Jesus.

Those kids, the video that I saw, 45 minutes of it, I thought

they were,

did honor to their community, honor to their school.

And on Martin Luther King Day, they did honor to Martin Luther King.

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So Stu keeps telling me when we get off the air,

yeah, you know it's Martin Luther King Day today.

Yeah.

You know that the press is going to just twist what you say.

And

nah, I don't think they care anymore.

I really don't.

I think they like the idea of these kids who've been vilified by the country as essentially white supremacists with no evidence of

the idea that you're going to say that they had similar characteristics in some ways to Martin Luther King is

on Martin Luther King Day.

Well, I don't even think the press even knows who Martin Luther King is anymore.

I mean, he's not radical enough for people now.

Martin Luther King is being distanced from all of the, you know, the big civil rights groups now.

Only when it's convenient for them do they use it.

Martin Luther King wouldn't be a part of Antifa.

No way.

No.

Martin Luther King wouldn't be a part of really, he wouldn't be a part of the women's march.

Maybe at the beginning, he would have been, okay,

let's you know, gather together.

It seemed like a peaceful march, but he probably would have done his homework and saw who was involved and went, ah, no, they seem to be racists.

And I don't think we want to stand with racists.

He wouldn't be standing with them now.

Would he be at the March for Life?

We don't know, but I know Al Veda King says that he actually was pro-life, right?

I mean, didn't.

Yeah, he was also, dare I say it, oh, dare I say it, on Martin Luther King Day?

Yes, I dare.

Also pro-gun.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know what?

You know what's crazy?

Because gun laws for African Americans and native common sense gun control laws.

Common sense.

Gun control laws.

They were always in effect in the South for African Americans.

It's common sense.

We don't want African Americans to have guns.

Of course not.

You know why?

You know why?

This is why they told Martin Luther King you couldn't have a gun.

Because he went in and he said, hey, I need to get a permit to carry a gun.

And they said, no, no, no.

That'll make it more dangerous for you.

For you.

We're doing it.

We're doing it.

For you, just like they're protecting us with their gun control measures of today.

We can't understand how to handle these big, black metal, scary things that we hold and make loud booms.

We can't do that ourselves.

We're doing this for your own good.

You can't carry a gun, Mr.

King.

So, you know, he's not exactly the guy that everybody portrays him, and he wasn't a saint either.

I mean, he was a normal guy.

None of our heroes of the past are perfect.

He wasn't a saint.

Towards the end, he was hanging around a lot of communists.

You know, whether that's where he would have ended up or not, I don't know.

But here's why we know him.

Not because we're like, you know, I support Martin Luther King because he was for philandering.

No, we like him because of

his idea that you peacefully protest.

Oh, I like Martin Luther King because he was a communist.

No, no.

We like Martin Luther King and he has a day because he taught America how to protest peacefully.

And that's exactly what happened this weekend.

But maybe we should look back and have a refresher on Martin Luther King.

We will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual.

Free at last, free at last.

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last.

Now is the time.

to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice.

Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice

to the solid rock of brotherhood.

Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

And I've seen

the promised land.

I may not get there with you,

but I want you to know the night

that we as a people will get to the promised land.

Dr.

Martin Luther King has been shot and wounded, possibly critically wounded, in Memphis, Tennessee this evening.

Dr.

Martin Luther King, the apostle of nonviolence in the civil rights movement, has been shot to death in Memphis in an all-points bulletin for a well-dressed young white man seen running from the scene, running from the scene.

For centuries, man's freedom has been crushed, contained, or at best discouraged, and sometimes in subtle ways.

In the days of Solomon, he decried that man could learn too much, that one shouldn't dig too deeply nor read too often, saying that too much reading led to the weariness of the flesh.

That the search for knowledge is where Adam and Eve went wrong, thus proving that learning leads to man's downfall or his sin.

Saint Paul centuries later said basically the same thing.

In 1500, Francis Bacon wrote to the king trying to convince him that man could never learn too much, that knowledge could not somehow also contain the serpent.

Yet free thought continued to be squashed.

Immanuel Kant, the man who first described the Milky Way as a collection of suns in the fashion that we now know it, wrote in 1760, There are many things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things that I do not believe.

The courage to speak one's mind.

In 1760, our most precious freedom, the freedom of thought, had not yet been born.

Yet, Just a few years later, on the other side of the globe, sat a man alone in a a hotel room, his wife dying in bed hundreds of miles away from him, as he scratched words on paper.

We find these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights given to them by their Creator, among them life, liberty, and property.

It was later changed to the pursuit of happiness to make sure the slave trade would finally come to an end.

I'm not sure if we really understand the impact of those words.

Man has never been as free to think as man is now.

The Chinese dissidents didn't make a statue of liberty in Tiananmen Square out of happenstance.

Americans changed the world.

Our freedom of thought allowed men to discover electricity, the light bulb, the car, the phone, the motion picture, the radio, the television, the computer, to put a man on the moon.

These men will be first to orbit the Earth, I cannot tell you.

And a spacecraft on Mars.

It was in the American century that the theory of relativity was conceived, leading Einstein to say, the thing that strikes me about America is the joyous, positive attitude to life.

The smile on the faces of the people is one of the greatest assets of the American.

He's friendly, self-confident, optimistic, and without envy.

The American lives more for his goals, for the future.

Life for him is always becoming,

never being.

His emphasis is laid on the we and never the I.

So today,

As we are free to celebrate, relax, think, read, say anything, ask yourself this.

Are we still more about the goals for the future?

Is life for us always about becoming and never being?

And are we still part of the we and not the I?

You know, when Jefferson first wrote those words, they were words of treason and certain execution.

But today they are free to echo throughout the land as words of the American spirit and our hope.

That we do hold these truths to be self-evident.

That all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, and among them, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And in support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

Our founders changed the world with those few words.

And over 200 years later, a black preacher from the South, Dr.

Martin Luther King, helped make sure that the promise of liberty was real for all Americans.

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I am trying to find that quote from Albert Einstein.

It used to be easy to find.

All I keep finding now

is I do Einstein on America being optimist, optimistic, on Americans being happy.

I can't find it.

I mean, you wrote that piece, what, how many years ago?

Yeah.

20.

Yeah.

And now I'm trying to find it again.

And

no, I just keep finding,

you know, Einstein on America being racist.

Maybe it was in that essay where

he was denouncing racism because he did say, you know, look, I'm a Jew, and so I can understand how, you know, African Americans feel.

Because I went through it before.

I mean, look, every single, this is another interesting example of something you mentioned at the beginning of the hour, which is even Einstein had his issues, right?

Like, there's some quotes from Einstein.

They're not so great when it comes around sort of the, you know, early World War II era.

That one wasn't bad.

What he just said there wasn't bad.

I didn't say that was bad.

I said there are some, though, that are,

you know, you kind of wish, eventually he came around to some of the correct opinions here, but every single person that you I used to do a segment on Wonderful World of Stu called Ruining Your Heroes.

Yeah.

And it was just my favorite thing of just taking these really beloved figures and finding all the terrible things about them and just ruining them for people.

I don't know why I take pleasure in such a thing.

However, it is, you can do it with almost anybody.

And that was kind of the point, is you can find things that are true and negative and bad about every single one of these figures,

maybe one big exception,

where,

you know, there is a

idea, you used to say this a lot, which is we turn these people into statues and why that's a bad thing.

You know, the Abraham Lincoln Memorial, it's beautiful and it's great, and you can certainly understand how important he was, but it almost makes you forget he was a man.

It almost makes you forget he was a human being that had flaws and screwed up sometimes and misunderstood things at key moments in his life and was not always right, did things at times that were not the right path.

But overall, we can still put that into perspective.

And it's the same thing with all of the founding fathers, where they did things and you can question them and not understand.

When you memorialize a person, this is why I get so uncomfortable around these like state funerals and things.

When you put people,

when you have that around them, it takes away the actual humanity.

It almost convinces you that you can't do something like that.

You can't do what Abraham Lincoln did.

You can't stand like that because he was this giant statue of a man.

Well, in reality, he was just a man.

He was a mess.

He was a mess.

Did somebody go upstairs into the vault on the second floor and get the picture off the wall of Abraham Lincoln looking like Kramer from Seinfeld?

Get that picture and bring it down.

This guy was a mess.

He was a mess.

But he

somehow or another weathered it.

Can you imagine the guy who is fighting a war, a civil war,

losing every battle all the way up to half point?

Okay, losing every single battle.

His cabinet is against him.

Everybody's against him.

Half the country loathes him.

The other half, not so great on him.

He's got a wife with serious depression.

He loses a son.

All of this is happening in the White House.

His wife is called crazy.

Oh, the home life is a disaster.

Home life is a disaster.

Can you imagine the press today how they would treat Abraham Lincoln?

Can you imagine?

Can you imagine?

What they would say about his wife?

I mean, they already were saying this about his wife, but they were just, I mean, this press would tear Lincoln apart.

He was a Republican.

I'm sure they'd be fair to him.

I'm sure.

They don't even point out that he was a Republican anymore.

No.

You know, because of all the good.

His good so overwhelmed the bad that they can't even admit he was a Republican.

Or they just favored the Republican Party has changed, and now they're racists.

I did this fascinating interview.

It's going to be a podcast in a couple of weeks with Brad Meltzer.

And

you saw that one?

Yeah.

While we were taping it?

It's a great one.

We just talk about history.

But we get into George Washington, and I asked him a serious question.

Besides Jesus,

I can't find any other character that is as spotless as George Washington.

I mean, yes, he had slaves.

It's a pretty big spotlight.

It's a pretty big spotlight.

And he obviously understood this at some level, and there was some.

Oh, yeah, no, he did.

You know, his slaves,

I'm trying to remember, but I think when Martha died, she freed the slaves, I think.

I can't remember how it happened, but

he didn't free them on his death.

And the story goes that they didn't want to leave.

They didn't want to be broken up because he wasn't like a mean slave.

Yes, they were slaves, and there's a difference.

But his slaves talked about him differently than other slave owners did.

Yeah, no,

he's not the, you know,

Simon, what's Simon Legree?

He wasn't that kind of a slave owner.

Still owned slaves, but for at the time was a great one, and couldn't release them.

Could not release them

legally.

That wasn't the way the law worked at that time.

In Virginia.

And we talked about this a lot of, you know, sometimes we compare abortion to slavery.

And the reason I think it's an apt comparison is not because they're both really bad, because they are really bad.

We can compare that to a million things.

But the fact that society approves it gives people the out to understand how horrific it is at the time.

It's almost an excuse for people of how they acted that way.

At that time, it was accepted by society, and people didn't really, the average person was not thinking whether this was right or wrong.

And I think a lot of that's happening today with abortion.

Yeah, most people don't think things through like that.

Society accepts it.

What?

It's a problem.

Oh, you're a crackpot.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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Welcome back to the program.

I want to,

for those of you who are watching, we're just talking about Abraham Lincoln, and I sent some guys up to the vault to get this

really rare and controversial photograph of Abraham Lincoln.

And I think that it looks, Abraham Lincoln looks like Kramer on Seinfeld.

That's not why it's controversial, but doesn't he?

It totally does, yeah.

And you do have a picture of it side-by-side by any chance?

Grab a picture of Seinfeld, I mean, Kramer, and grab this picture of Abraham Lincoln.

This picture was taken on July 4th, 1856.

Any idea why that

is an important date?

I don't know.

They grabbed him just before he walked up onto the podium for the Lincoln-Douglas debates.

Oh, wow.

This is the Abraham Lincoln that gave that debate.

And he won.

I mean, looking like this, he won.

A little different than the classic photos you'd think of when you think of Abraham Lincoln.

Yeah, isn't that nuts?

That one's not going on the $5 bill.

No,

that's not even going on the $3 bill.

No, no, that's just a bad-looking picture of Abraham Lincoln.

You know, Abraham Lincoln

was in a bad mood if you ever see him with his hair combed.

Any picture where his hair is in place, it's because he was pissed off.

Really?

Yes.

His way of taking out his anger was on his hair.

No.

He would sit for a photo and they would say,

Mr.

President, we'd just like to comb your hair.

Mr.

Lincoln, could we just comb your hair?

And he'd say, no, no, I like it this way.

And they would say, no, Mr.

Lincoln, we really need you to comb your hair.

No, I like it this way.

Mr.

Lincoln, please.

Okay, go ahead and comb it.

And as they'd finish and they'd get right to the camera ready to take the shot, he'd run his hands through his hair and mess it up again and do it right.

And he's like, go ahead, take the picture now.

And they would all laugh and they would take the picture.

A few times

they were like, no, Mr.

President.

And he was pissed.

He did not like pictures making him look all fancy.

Fancy in his term was with my hair combed because he never combed his hair.

That's not what he looked like.

He looked like more like this.

He looked like he was disheveled all the time.

Here's the side-by-side.

Look at that.

That is a Kramer haircut.

That is the original Kramer.

Look at that.

The nose is even the same.

Wouldn't it be cool if Abraham Lincoln walked into rooms like Kramer?

Just kind of slid into rooms.

Whoa, all right.

I say we free the slaves.

What do you think?

Oh, my gosh.

Someone should remake

in Seinfeld style elements of the Lincoln presidency.

That would be incredible.

With Lincoln Pompadon.

Somebody who had a movie studio.

I would love that.

I mean, that'd be great.

Like,

you know, the

wife could be Elaine coming in.

Imagine the characters that you could have in that.

And he would be like, we should free the slaves.

And like Elaine used to always do, she'd come up to him and push him.

Yeah.

Stop it.

That's a great idea.

This is Hamilton too.

The money's there.

People want to see

history.

You just do Kramer is Lincoln, and you get the old cast back from Seinfeld.

Oh, my gosh, this is brilliant.

Lynn Manuela Miranda should be coming in and doing that.

That is really good.

I don't know what that history would look like, but that is

a billion-dollar musical for you right there.

That is fantastic.

What happened to Kramer?

Dude, you didn't even know.

I mean, I know he went off on like a racist rant at one point.

There was an issue at a comedy club.

Yes.

Right.

I mean, you think about that.

That was a bad one.

One of the earliest sort of YouTube moments that affected somebody's career that I can think of.

Yeah, he went in.

I mean,

it was a very bad moment, as he's admitted many times since.

He was being taunted by someone in the crowd who happened to be African-American, and he was looking for a way to get under his skin and decided to use words you do not use

in that fashion.

I would say he's made, he's actually recovered from that at some point with a gigantic assist to Jerry Seinfeld,

who has so much credibility with everybody, And he kept going on the air and saying, Look, you know, he's put him on as big appearances, he's put him back in shows that he's done.

He was on Curb Your Enthusiasm a few times.

He's come back at some level from that.

He's funny.

He is funny.

We're watching Seinfeld with the kids now.

We finished watching Cosby, and so they have their fill of a pedophile.

And now you're going into the races.

We're going into the races.

No, so we're watching Seinfeld,

and

it's a lot funnier.

I mean, I've always thought it was funny.

It's a lot funnier than I remember.

They're absolutely dislikable.

I mean, you got that the first time around, but they really are all so shallow and dislikable, which is the first time a sitcom was like that.

No sitcoms before that had the entire cast, except for the crazy neighbor, unlikable.

Right.

Kramer is likable.

Yeah.

In a crazy sort.

In a crazy way.

He's the guy who is always like, no, that's not right.

You know?

Yeah.

He's also, you know, insane.

Yeah, he's insane.

But you're right.

I saw an episode, though.

Do you remember the Indian cigar

episode?

Yeah.

Go back and watch that now.

It's unfreaking believable.

Well, do you remember we did this a couple weeks ago?

There's a new list of the 10 Seinfeld episodes that are no longer

the worst moments here.

Maybe that was the week Pat was here.

And I can't remember what the other controversy was.

There was another old TV show controversy, and we went over this list.

And these moments, you know, there's a lot of them in that show that couldn't be made today.

I mean, even going back to more recent history of The Office, Steve Corell said in an interview, you couldn't make that show.

There was an article out there.

There was an article out yesterday or today about how stand-up comedy is dead.

And I'm like, no, it's really not.

It's not dead.

It's just dead for this generation.

No, I mean, because you can't, because nobody can take a joke.

It will,

with, what was it, with terror and slaughter return?

The gods of the copybook headings are coming back.

And so stand-up comedy will come back.

It's just going to be after a nasty episode here.

It's interesting you say that.

The Louis C.K.

thing recently has had me thinking about this a lot because he had this apparently terrible moment where he was bashing the Parkland victims.

And he was saying that

he was saying that it's almost like they're trying to be treated as royalty, these people who were demanding you call them what they say they want to be called.

And he was just kind of mocking

culture and everyone was bashing him for it.

And I happened to hear Jim Norton, who's a great Canadian and like a

First Amendment hero,

who's always speaking out for the First Amendment.

And

he talked about this and his take was, it's never going to change.

It is never going back.

It's never going to go back to a time where people actually took the joke.

It's never going to go back to a time where people weren't offended over every single thing.

His take was never.

And that's depressing because I will.

There's a part of me that was optimistic about the idea of social media and all these things.

And that when we were one of the first sort of targets in this world, right?

Like this show would get targeted by, you know, stupid groups like Media Matters and everything.

And this show used to be funny.

Believe it or not, the show used to be funny.

I mean, that was our main goal was to be funny every day.

Then Then our main goal was just stay on the air.

Well,

weather the storm.

And we got so attacked from all sides over and over and over again.

It was really hard for a long period of time to still say what I believe.

Yeah, I mean, you still did it.

And we had problems from it, right?

Constantly.

And my take at the time was this was new to people.

Like

a company, right, used to get 10 complaint letters a year.

Right.

And then all of a sudden, they get 100 emails in a day about the same thing.

And in their minds, it would turn into, oh my gosh, everyone's, this is worse than we've ever seen before.

We have to bail from this sponsor or we have to, you know,

we have to, you know, stop advertising on that show or whatever the change was.

We have to make a statement to show that we are not on the side of these hateful things, whatever they were.

I'm not going to check.

And

my initial thought on that was people would eventually realize that these are mailing lists, right?

This is before social media, really.

It was more like the mailing lists and emails.

And I was like, these are mailing lists.

This is just like, it's a dumb activism group that's just,

they're fraudulently showing outrage to try to get you to hurt their enemy politically.

And I thought eventually companies would be like, oh, I mean, we've seen this a thousand times.

This is idiotic.

I'm not getting involved in this.

You know what?

We don't back anybody's show that we advertise on.

It's not what we do here.

We make pancakes or whatever it is, right?

And really, it's been the opposite.

It's just now everyone folds over everything.

And this happens on the left and right.

And people just, as soon as there's a complaint about something, look at the school yesterday with a MAGA hat kid.

The school that knows these particular children.

Their immediate reaction was, We denounce everything they've ever done in their lives.

And of course, now they're having to back off of this because the video clearly shows that there was no evidence to claim that they were.

Let me say, let me say it, just because it's just, it's, it's like, it's like lemon juice and an open wound on a leftist.

No, Stu.

They acted like Martin Luther King.

They stood there and they did not

yell at them.

They did not fire back.

They stood there silently

and

they protested in a restrained way by all the video evidence we have right now.

They weren't even protesting there.

They were standing there.

They were standing there.

They were waiting for the bus.

Exactly.

They were targeted by two professional groups of protesters.

They were targeted.

Those guys on both of those groups, the, what is it, African American Jews or whatever it is,

and the Native American protest group, they've never had this much publicity before.

They've never had this, but they were targeted.

That group was targeted to do exactly because they knew what the press would do.

And they milked it for everything that it was worth it.

Lied to the press, said things that happened.

And the press doesn't care that they were lied to.

They don't seem to be pissed off about it at all.

Nope.

And that's the thing.

Like, I have over this time and going through this firsthand, we've dealt with this, you know, for now 15, 20 years.

And it's like, you get the sense that maybe it is never going to change.

Maybe we're at this point where we just won't joke anymore.

With terror and slaughter, the gods of the copybook headings will return.

Read that poem again.

Yeah, it's going to happen.

It's just going to be horrible to get back to it.

Let me just finish with telling you the story.

In fact, would you write this down?

I'm going to the prop storehouse today or the prop storeroom that I have,

and I am picking up the cigar store Indian that I have

in storage and I'm gonna put it right there right behind me so every day it's sitting there

anyway

the so this this episode is so telling and shows where we are and shows the right thing America was laughing at this but America was laughing at it because it tells the truth about America.

He picks up, remember, he's offended Elaine, I think.

And so he's standing, he's trying to get her, he wants to get her something, and he's standing in the cigar store, and he's like, oh, that's great.

That's so kitschy.

That's cool because it's so kitschy.

He's like, I got to get that.

How much is that?

And it was like $1,200, which is no way you could buy one now for that.

And it's $1,200 or something like that, $700.

And he picks it up, he wraps it up, and he goes to Ellen's house.

They're playing a card game or something.

They're doing something as women.

One of the women is a Native American.

And

Seinfeld walks in and he's like, hello, Judy, or whatever her name is.

And there's obviously some chemistry between the two.

And which you couldn't do now, God forbid.

And he says, Ellen, I got you something.

I've got you something.

Look.

And he starts to pull it off and

pull off the cloth off the cigar store Indian.

And she's like, no, Jerry, don't.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And he's like, what?

This is kitschy.

This is fun.

Look at this.

This is great.

He's doing it because it's kitschy and it's fun.

And it is.

It is.

It's a part of history.

And so he pulls it off and he's doing it as a joke for her.

Okay.

It's immediately turned into a racist thing.

The Native American gets up and he tries to apologize and says, I'm sorry,

I didn't know.

And if that was offensive, I'm really sorry.

And then he says, you know, they get back together and he gives, she gives her something, gives him something, the Native American.

And it's the Indian giver thing.

And then at the end, they're dating and he's like, hey, let's just,

I made res.

I made an appointment at a great restaurant.

So it shows how he's trying and taking it so far.

What's her name?

I want to say Ellen, but it's not.

Elaine.

Elaine.

Elaine then says to Kramer, get this out of here.

I don't want this.

He's like, oh, this is great.

This is kitschy.

This is great.

So he puts it in a cab.

As he's trying to find

a restaurant that the two of them can go to, Jerry is, he says to a guy who's got his back to him, hey, do you know where a Chinese restaurant is?

Postman, Chinese.

Why, you think all Chinese people?

No.

Kramer drives by in the car going, look, Jerry.

None of it was racist.

None of it was racist.

But it shows exactly the world we live in now, where everything is interpreted.

Predicted the future.

For the worst.

Yeah.

Did.

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That's right.

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a jew

was basically accused of defending Hitler over the weekend and he lost sponsors because of it.

This is crazy.

Another friend of mine, Graham Allen, he posts a picture of his kids and him with guns, firing range.

Oh my gosh, he is the worst human being on the planet.

We share both those stories and Graham joins us in one minute.

This is the Glen Beck program.

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Okay, so Graham Allen, who is, he's got his own show here on Blaze TV.

It's called Rant Nation.

He's

a former military guy, and he poses with his kids with guns.

Oh, my gosh, you would think that he had set the world on fire and poked the eyes out of babies.

He got a lot of heat for it this weekend.

Graham joins us now.

Hello, Graham.

Hey, Graham, what's going on, guys?

So now, in this picture with you and the kids, were you in the poppy field and you were all trying to go to sleep?

Or where were you exactly?

Well,

we were in a cotton field that is literally across the street from my house here in rural Mississippi.

I had no idea you were so racist.

You live across the street from a cotton field?

Yeah, I do.

And I'm so racist that people obviously don't understand cotton that I miraculously made cotton grow three days ago in the middle of winter.

Anyone that knows anything about cotton knows that that picture was obviously taken months ago.

Right.

So

why the

controversy here?

The guns, the cotton, the children, both.

You're all white.

The sky is blue.

What was the problem?

I think it was a perfect storm.

I think it was a perfect storm.

So it was in response to the Gillette ad.

And, you know, and the left and the right can go back and forth forever on this.

You know, it was highly praised by the left.

It was highly criticized by the right.

I think it's gotten more dislikes on YouTube than it has likes.

And so the left praised it because

it speaks for anti-bullying, anti-sexual predator, et cetera.

But the right saw it for what it really was.

And what that ad really was, it was this undertone of, it's basically saying that the

that men, current generation men, are this problem within our society.

And it was aimed towards younger males saying that you basically need to grow up different to save our world from the current generation of men.

So I thought, what better way to do it than to post with something that I have a very strong feeling?

I don't know this for certain, but I have a very strong feeling that the people that made the Gillette ad are probably not pro-gun kind of people.

And so I posted the photo and I said, hey, Gillette, does this offend you?

If I could go back and change one thing, I would have added just one word and I would have said, does this also offend you?

Because the biggest thing was people were like, what in the world does guns have to do with the Gillette ad?

Well, technically, nothing.

You know, guns didn't have anything directly to do with the Gillette ad, except that gun-loving, Second Amendment-supporting law, gun-law-abiding citizens are frowned upon this day and age by the left as, you know, as the problem.

And so that was the, you know, that was the whole reason why I literally just selected, that was one of our family photos.

Like, that was part of a whole group of photos that we took months ago.

Holy cow.

Me and my family.

Holy cow.

And so, and so that's it.

You know, people give me a lot more credit for being this racist bigot than I think I deserve because they were like, the racist undertones and the time it took to construct such a subliminal photo

is staggering.

It's amazing how

it's amazing how groupthink works.

They will, people will do this.

People have done this for years, and Stu and I always joke about it.

They'll come up and they'll say, oh, I was listening to what you were saying in that monologue, and I hear what you were saying.

And you'd be like, oh, thank you very much.

No, I get it.

Okay, thanks.

I mean, I hear what you're saying.

What is it that I'm saying?

Yeah, and they will come up with some elaborate thing that, you know, that's what you were really saying.

And usually we're by that point so afraid of that person, we just go, right?

Yeah, okay.

But let's keep that to ourselves.

Now, go away.

We shouldn't be seen with each other ever again.

Well, that, that, Glenn, and then the other big comment that I saw was, and I wanted to address this just really quick.

You know, I do teach my children how to handle and respect firearms because I believe that teaching children at a younger age to understand firearms, you remove the mystique around firearms, you get them comfortable to where they respect it.

One of the big things was why is my little girl in the photo not having, why does she not have a weapon?

Am I a sexist?

You know,

is my little girl not allowed to

have a girlfriend?

Wait, let me look at the picture.

Put the picture back up because I think I'm right.

She's is she the youngest?

Yes, she's the youngest.

She's four in this photo.

Right.

Right.

I wouldn't let a four-year-old grab the gun either.

How old is your son?

How old is the son?

Five?

Seven and eight.

Seven and eight were my two boys.

Oh, my God.

And so, and so the purpose of the photo, one, to just add the reality of it is I only had three guns in the truck

when we drove across the street.

So, so, and then the, you know, the purpose of the photo was kind of that, you know, that stereotypical southern, you know, men protecting, you know, you know, the women that they cherish in their, you know, in their life and stuff.

But also, my little girl, we don't let her just handle rifles yet because she's just not there.

She's just not there yet as far as being truly comfortable with a rifle.

By the way, none of those weapons were loaded.

Obviously, you know, my kids just don't walk around with rifles.

You know, they're all locked up all.

Graham.

Graham, you're on the Glenbeck show, not like Stephen Colbert.

You don't have to say that.

I mean, we know that.

We know that.

You're right.

Anyway, so that's the reality of it.

My little girl didn't have a rifle because she was four at the time that that picture was taken.

Unbelievable.

That is incredible.

Graham, it's interesting to watch this because, you know, you're tie to the Gillette thing, I think, makes a lot of sense to me.

Because, I mean, toxic masculinity, they would talk about firearm usage as an example of this, right?

I mean, it really does tie in in a roundabout sort of way.

Especially southerners with guns.

Yeah, right, right.

It's interesting, though, because I grew up in Connecticut.

It was not a gun culture at all.

And I think there's a lot of people around the country who look at kids handling guns and think only the worst, right?

Like the only thing, the only experience they would ever have with a kid holding a gun is a terrible story in the news where, you know, a parent didn't have their gun put away properly and then it was loaded and the kid got a handle of it.

And that's the terrible news at 11 moment for them.

I mean, the gap in understanding gun culture is so wide.

How do you fill it?

Well, I mean, I think that the southern culture in general is doing a good job.

I mean, I can only speak for, people can only truly speak for their own, you know, upbringings and their own personal

influences and events in their life.

The entire culture of people that I associate with, my family, my children, gun culture is just this way of life.

We go hunting literally just about every day during hunting season, and it's not for trophy or sport.

It's to teach our children, you know, hey, we shot this deer because this deer provides food for our family.

That is the reason that we go out and do this.

Hey, a gun is for hunting or self-defense purposes.

It's not to go out and showboat and everything like that.

I think the southern culture does a good job.

We're just demonized for it.

Well, so here's the thing: you know who's not demonized that could very easily be demonized.

And I tweeted this about you earlier today.

Hey, New Yorkers,

you let your 13-year-old get onto a subway by themselves to go to school?

Yes, many do.

Do you just drop

your seven or eight-year-old off on the corner, even though your school is like, you know, 50 feet away?

Are you kidding me?

There's a lot of people who live in the center of the country that would go, wait, wait, wait.

You let your 13-year-old on the subway of New York?

Are you crazy?

Oh, yeah.

No, it's not crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nobody would do that.

Right.

But if you live in New York and you've raised your kids to be New Yorkers, it's not crazy.

It's very easy to avoid bad things in New York.

If you know where you are, you have your wits around you.

The easiest way to be victimized in New York, walk around with a map.

You walk around with a tourist map, you are a target.

A 13-year-old kid who knows exactly what they're doing on the subway, knows exactly what they're doing on the streets, that is not the victim.

The tourist is the victim.

Yeah, exactly.

And I would think that the biggest, to me, the biggest issues that we have now and why gun culture and why the Gillette ad was so controversial is I think that we have it's not a it's not a gun problem.

It's not a we don't really have this,

you know, there's not the vast majority of men walking around raping and pillaging through villages, you know, that people like to like to portray that's going on.

The vast majority, 99%

of men are anti-bullying, we're anti-inequality, we're anti-sexual harassment or assault.

You know, who are you really talking to?

And I think that's what the vast majority of conservatives and the vast majority of real men took offense to that ad.

Nobody is against being kind to people.

Nobody is against that.

We're against this undertone that people are creating that men are a problem in society.

And I think that's why we all got upset.

So, Graham, by the way, you can catch Graham on Blaze TV.

It's Rant Nation.

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Graham, I think this all can be summarized with this.

You said Gillette wanted to make a commercial that said, you guys, men, you got to grow up to be different than blah, blah, blah.

I think the message that men will accept is,

boys,

you need to grow up because men are different than boys.

All the things that everybody is excusing is boy behavior,

not a behavior of a man.

And

men understand that.

Thanks, Graham.

I appreciate it.

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I'm a little disturbed here reading this article about Graham Allen.

The last line said, Graham Graham Allen did not return Yahoo Lifestyle's request for comment.

Shut up.

I mean, if you're not going to respond to Yahoo Lifestyle, I don't want to have any dealings with you whatsoever.

If Yahoo Lifestyle asks, you answer Graham.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

And I hope Ben Shapiro knows this too, because Yahoo Lifestyle may have reached out for a comment from him, too.

Can we play the Ben Shapiro audio?

This is what got Ben Shapiro

basically called an anti-Semite.

He's Jewish, by the way.

Shapiro.

Listen.

Finally, argument number number 10.

This one has become popular in recent years after the book Freakonomics came out.

That argument is that abortion lowers the crime rate.

What has lowered the crime rate traditionally has been killing all the would-be criminals.

First of all,

I don't know who's comfortable with the pre-crime version of humanity, where we get to decide before you're born whether you're likely to be a criminal and then abort you based on future criminal activity in which you have not participated.

The argument, I guess, here is that would you kill baby Hitler?

And And the truth is that no pro-life person on earth would kill baby Hitler.

Because baby Hitler wasn't Hitler.

Adult Hitler was Hitler.

Baby Hitler was a baby.

What you presumably want to do with Baby Hitler was take Baby Hitler out of Baby Hitler's house and move baby Hitler into a better house where he would not grow up to be Hitler.

That's the idea.

But it is also true that the crime statistics do not even match up.

Criminologist Barry Latzer points out that abortions became available in 1973 under Roe v.

Wade.

Those young people would go on to create a massive crime spike and the crack cocaine epidemic.

But if you move forward 15 to 20 years, right, which that's when you would see the crime drop due to the abortion of babies, but there is no crime drop.

You'd expect the absent babies, right, the babies that were killed starting in 1973, not to be around carjacking people.

But it turns out that people were still carjacking people 15 years after Roe v.

Wade, 20 years after Roe v.

Wade.

The crime spike only began to drop in 1994, a solid 21 years after Roe v.

Wade was actually put in place.

That can't be due to abortion, abortion, right?

That's really due to additional policing, so it doesn't even match up statistically.

Now, in all of this discussion, I've refrained from discussing the Bible and religion.

Now, one of the arguments that I've made is based on the Bible or religion.

Now, many people will pretend that I didn't make any of these arguments, that it's all about the Bible and religion, because the left prefers to believe that religion is stupid and people who believe in religion are stupid, people who believe in God are idiots, and that's the reason why we prefer to protect the lives of the unborn.

But we do have to recognize one religious root to every argument that I'm making, and that is the innate value value of human life.

That is a religiously based argument.

I mean, you know, these are just a collection of great hits of topics.

Tell me how

you get a defense of Hitler out of that.

I mean, it's implausible, obviously, because Ben Shapiro has been attacked by anti-Semites more than any journalist.

This is not like me just saying it.

It was a study done by anti-Semitic attacks on journalists in 2016, and he was attacked by more than any other journalist in existence.

The idea that he could be some pro-Hitler guy or some, he's so fanatic that he would let the Holocaust happen to not let a woman have an abortion or whatever the accusation is, they're all absurd.

So let me tell you

what's happening here and why these things are put out and then they say, oh, I'm really sorry.

Because it doesn't matter.

The retraction doesn't matter.

The image is already in your head.

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We have one of his chaperones coming up next.

I have to tell you, I have seen a lot of protesters.

I've seen a lot of people act.

I've seen crowds of adults act like morons on both sides.

I've seen people make stupid mistakes.

But

I have yet to see, outside of perhaps the crowd that we had in Washington, D.C.,

I have yet to see a crowd of kids

act

as Christ-like as I saw these kids in Covington act.

And if you read

the letter of the main kid, Nick Sandman, who was the guy who was staring down the Native American.

He wasn't.

He wasn't.

He was acting Christ-like.

And you see it if you watch the video.

I watched the videos.

I didn't watch the clips.

I watched the actual whole video.

And you see they were targeted.

He wasn't blocking anyone.

He was not smirking and laughing.

I would imagine that for a while there, he either got like the funeral giggles.

I was an altar boy.

Oh, I remember being taken back because I had my friend and I, we were altar boys at a funeral, and we got the giggles.

And it wasn't because we wanted to, it was because we didn't want to.

And man, we got chastised by the priest.

It was not pretty.

Anyway,

he's, and I think he's he's just because he's smiley because of the absurdity of it.

But if you watch the whole video, that's only a fraction of a second.

And then he hears one of his classmates intelligently, not confronting, intelligently trying to argue with one of the Native American protesters who's calling them all kinds of names.

And Nick actually tries to stop the kid.

He's like, at one point, he's like, hey, don't, don't.

When his friend continues, that's when he turns around, grabs him, and says, let's go.

The kid was doing on Martin Luther King Day, I am proud to say, this is a group of kids that Martin Luther King would hold up as a great example.

And everyone should do that.

Now,

we have Jill Hamlin on.

She was a chaperone as they were waiting for the bus.

They weren't protesting.

They were just there waiting for the bus so they could go home.

Jill, welcome to the program.

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you.

I can't even imagine what you feel like.

I am so upset and I don't know any of the kids and I wasn't there.

Yeah,

it was upsetting when it happened and it's been even more upsetting to see the aftermath and

just the

torment these kids are going through and being so wrongly accused of something they did not do.

Tell me what the scene was, Jill.

As I know everybody's heard, this has been the meeting place of the Lincoln Memorial for the boys to meet and get their buses.

That is what we do every year.

And every year everybody does that because that's where the buses can make a circle.

It's the only place where the buses can wait and pick people up from all over the country.

That's where you meet.

But go ahead.

Exactly.

We had no idea that there was an Indigenous march that day.

We were there for the March for Life, a peaceful march that we did.

We met.

We gathered on the steps because, as has been done in past years, the boys typically do their school cheer on the steps down below by the Lincoln Memorial.

Once they were gathering,

there were other people milling around.

There were

the

black Hebrew Israelites I think that's what they call themselves yeah well I'm I'm I

lived in New York for about six years so I can tell you

they're crazy that's what we call them when you live in New York and you pass them every day you're like oh those crazy people are across the street we better cross the street go ahead yes they immediately

their eyes just darted over to the crowd of boys and Boom, they were the target immediately from the get-go.

People from their group started running around with cameras, jumping up on columns and just filming everything.

And the boys just looked at each other like, why are they saying this to us?

We've done nothing wrong.

We haven't said anything.

We haven't instigated anything.

And the insults and the hatred that came out of the mouth of these people holding Bibles in their hands was disgusting.

Everybody, every journalist at every network has passed those guys on the streets of New York.

They know exactly who they are.

They know exactly the hateful, racist things that they say.

And for the journalist in America to actually not give someone else the benefit of the doubt when they have first-hand experience on the streets of New York of those people, it's despicable.

But go ahead.

Yes.

Yes.

And,

you know,

they just were in shock, as we all were.

And so we just thought, you know, we're just going to stay together as our group on the steps, and we're going to ignore the insults.

And then you have Nathan Phillips with his four or five people.

He started, you know, he had been beating his drum and

the boys were all crowded around.

I mean, we were all standing there.

The chaperones were all around.

It's unfortunate that people think we were nowhere to be found.

But

Nathan Phillips inserted himself into our group of boys.

Have you watched the video from them?

Because I watched several videos from several different people on all sides.

If you watch the video from the Native American point of view, they specifically target your group.

They specifically approach your group because they say, look at all of those white, white Europeans, and they specifically know what they're walking into.

Yes, they did.

And he was not trying to diffuse a situation.

He made it worse.

He made it worse because he wants the attention and he has drug this school and these boys and their reputations through the worst possible way that he could.

And he did not diffuse the situation.

And everyone says, why didn't the boy move away?

He couldn't.

He was surrounded by his classmates.

They were all standing there.

And to your point earlier, he was afraid.

He is a young man.

He's not an adult.

Most of these kids have never been confronted with this type of situation.

And they shouldn't have been done

that either by Nathan Phillips.

He said

that all these people were calling names, blah, blah, blah.

He was trying to diffuse.

This is your Catholic student

trying to diffuse.

At one point, he said, I just felt that

these adults were trying to

use

the kids, us kids, as a prop or something.

I can't remember.

He said it.

He said it beautifully, and I can't find it.

But he knew these kids.

I repeat, kids are being persecuted for actions they did not commit.

It's truly horrifying.

And he talks about how he was standing there with adults trying to provoke them.

And he knew that's what was happening.

Yes.

Jill, can you hold on?

I want to take a quick break and then I want to come back and continue our conversation.

We'll continue.

This is Jill Hamlin.

She was a chaperone, Covington Catholic High School.

You should be proud of every student that goes to Covington.

I don't care what anyone else is saying.

You watch those videos.

If you watch those videos, if your child was in that group, if, in fact, the parents of Nick Sandman,

oh my gosh, if I was his father, I would say, mission accomplished.

Mission accomplished.

Thank you, Lord.

Thank you.

But I obviously raised my son right.

I raised my son to the light.

It's me and it's the Covington Catholic High School that have actually done it.

I think these kids are Martin luther king junior juniors

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Jill Hamlin, she was a chaperone at Covington Catholic High School

over, what, on, I think it was on Friday that this

video was shot and filmed.

Yeah, it was Friday, wasn't it?

Yeah.

And she went to Friday, yeah.

And it's just, it's horrible what has happened to the Covington Catholic High School students over the weekend.

She was there.

There are apparently some shots and some indications that some of the kids were making, you know, listless, you know, tomahawk chop

signals or something like that.

I did not see any of that.

Jill, did you see any of that?

I did not see any of it.

I was standing at the very top of the stairs.

to the side and in the back of the boys to try and just make sure that other people weren't going to come up from them beh from behind because

the boys were targeted immediately because of what they were wearing and what they represented.

And it's a very sad day that our society has become so full of hate

if you don't agree with one person's viewpoint.

It's sickening and it's disgusting that these people bullied underage boys and they're wanting now to put their faces and their names all over social media.

Well, Twitter is not doing anything to stop the hunting of these kids.

So,

Jill, at what point did you know this had gone horribly awry against the boys?

Well, at the point, Nathan Phillips was still in the center, and at that time, the

Hebrew Israelites started coming closer to our group.

And,

you know, I know that everyone's saying, well, why didn't you get them out of there sooner?

Well, if we had walked away and tried to get that whole group while Nathan Phillips was in the middle of us, we would have been chastised for being disrespectful and not honoring the Native American.

We stood there and waited for him thinking, you know, we didn't know what he was doing.

We just thought we need to respect this man and stand still.

But once the other group started getting closer and screaming even more filthy, I'm telling you, filthy,

disgusting.

No, they're horrible.

This is a horrible, horrible, awful group that every, and I mean it, every journalist in New York City has walked by these guys a million times and they know exactly who they are and they are horrible.

They say horrible, awful, offensive, nasty things to everyone.

Yes.

So at that point, we said, Okay, we need to get them going.

You know, there's almost 200 boys, so it's not like all of a sudden you can snap your fingers and they come running.

We started yelling at them,

let's go, let's get over here, let's go to our buses.

They heard us, we got them out of there, and we went over to across the street to this little

seating area, and we all gathered over there and waited about another half hour or so for our buses.

And when did social media start turning on you?

When did you get, when did, when were you alerted?

We, it started on the bus ride home because

Our buses broke down going there and coming back.

It was kind of, you know,

just a debacle from that standpoint.

But we

were all on the bus.

There were five buses total.

We ended up with four coming home.

And

all night, the teachers, one teacher was having to take down the social media of Covington Catholic because people had posted the names and email addresses of the entire faculty on Twitter.

I mean, it was constant.

And then we started hearing this one particular person who inserted herself in the crowd and filmed everything.

She was posting on Instagram a video, and it just got worse from there.

And when we got back, well, not when we got back, but before when all this started, each

bus,

there were four to five adults in each bus, and we all sat up and told the boys, do not respond, do not forward anything, do not post anything, do not respond to any of these allegations and what is being falsely told.

And then, you know, it got worse from there.

Jill,

I am, and I want you to carry this to the boys and carry this to everybody that you meet at Covington.

I think

I would put my kids in that school in a heartbeat today,

seeing how disciplined they were, seeing what has the response that has come.

I would have a problem moving to Covington because the mayor didn't, I mean, his own people, he just dogpiles on.

I honestly, I would like to ask you, I'd like to continue our conversation off air,

but

I would love to come to Covington and talk to you guys, the parents and the kids, not about this incident.

but what they have learned at that school and what they have learned in life that caused them to behave the way they did in all of the positive ways.

I think these kids need to be held up as an example.

For I'd like my son to act like those kids did.

Jill, thank you so much.

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