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Well, here we are.

It is Thursday.

Today, we are going to spend some time on a few stories that are just kind of more fun, more healthy.

But we're also going to be talking to you about something that we've addressed on the TV show all week, and that is what's coming next.

I told you when I was at Fox that the Arab Spring or the Arab Spring in Egypt would destabilize the entire Middle East.

It would lead to a caliphate.

Then that would spread up into Europe and destabilize Europe.

And once Europe was destabilized, the right and the left, the far right and far left, would begin working together, not coordinating, but they would find the same things useful.

And that would begin to collapse Europe and it would spread here to the United States.

I think all those things, I can make the case that those all have happened now.

So

what comes next?

We do that in one minute.

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So when I was at Fox, I told you the Arab Spring would spread, it would destabilize the Middle East, bringing the rise of a new caliphate, and then it would spread to Europe.

Members of the right and the left would use that chaos to their own advantage, and it would eventually spread to the United States.

Well, that is done now.

I mean, we are talking about the border.

What is it that Hillary Clinton just went over to Europe and said was the biggest problem with the destabilization of Europe?

Migrants.

Yeah.

Remember?

Which is amazing for her to admit.

Right.

They caused it.

Those migrants came from the Arab Spring and the Caliphate.

So

you had a crisis.

You had to get them out.

What are we debating now?

We're debating a crisis

and immigration.

So the left tells Europe, wow, you guys shouldn't have done that, but they're still telling America, you should do that.

Doesn't make any sense.

So that's complete now.

So

what happens next?

In this year of shows, we're going to be concentrating on eight categories.

And I want to spend some time today working on these eight categories and explaining them to you.

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All right.

So what's going to happen next?

Well, I don't think any of these things are going to come as a surprise to you, but it's what we need to concentrate on.

The polarization is going to get worse.

This is the political polarization, not just here in America, but all around the world.

The polarization is going to get worse, and it's going to cause more riots in the streets,

more unrest, civil unrest is coming.

And you're going to see, again, the left and the right coming together because their purposes will be to collapse things.

So polarization is going to get worse.

The economies will then nosedive.

Now, these could be out of order.

The economies could nosedive and then polarization gets worse.

But the financial system is going to be in danger again.

Some countries will collapse, like Germany collapsed in the 1930s.

Oil and the petrodollar will be weakened, putting countries like Saudi Arabia and Russia into economic chaos.

And this, as this happens, you add into it tech causing downward pressure on jobs and wages and communications and education.

And this will add more pressure on countries like the United States and China.

And at some point, because of all of these things, people will no longer believe in any system.

The government, the tech sector, press, all of it will be discredited.

That's when things get really dicey.

And that's when things like the government and tech begin to

merge with each other.

Now, I've laid out on the last three radio shows the

sectors that we're going to be watching, and because they're all dominoes, and I want to go over some of them with you, because I want to ask you if you are

if you have experience or you would consider yourself

well-informed on a few topics, and you could help us look for stories and connections, we need you to do that.

And you can sign up and be part of our team, if you will, at research

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And we'll give you some of these categories.

But for instance, I'm not an expert on AI, but

I'm very well read on it.

And

if I were just a listener, I'd be like, oh, no, I know a lot of stuff and I watch that sector.

You know, I can contribute stories because I see stories that are never making it into the mainstream.

And I understand how that connects to the future.

You know, I am very fascinated with Russia, and so I watch that, and I see things that are never in the mainstream.

We want you to be a part of the team that just would contribute things to us from time to time so it's on our radar.

And again, you can do that by sending stories to research at Glenbeck.com.

I want to give you a story that happened yesterday that explains exactly why

all of these

need to be watched and how any of these eight different categories

can tie in and be the catalyst for collapse and true chaos, global chaos and global war.

Going to give you a story that just was announced or just happened yesterday during this show.

If you've been following the French Yellow Vest protests, well, let me just assume that maybe you haven't.

The Yellow Vest protests started just recently

because

the Yellow Vests were upset about

a fuel tax.

That fuel tax was being imposed

on the citizens of France, and it was to pay for all the global warming nonsense.

Well, the people were for the global warming.

You know, we got to stop global warming.

But then once that tax actually hit them, they were like, well, no, wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

You don't tax us.

And so they wanted that tax removed.

And so they started these yellow vets, what are called yellow vest protests.

And

about a thousand people have been injured.

Hundreds have been arrested.

Several people have died.

It's been ugly in France.

Well, Macron came out and he said, okay, we're taking away

the tax.

Well, that just showed the people on the streets, the radicals, not the average people, but the radicals that were leading it.

Ah, they blinked.

We can get them.

Now, I want you to think of the people who are wearing the yellow vests.

Most of them are just like you.

The ones who are leading it are more like Antifa.

more like Occupy Wall Street.

What's happened is after he blinked, the left and the right got together.

Again, not coordinated.

They're not on each other's side, but they both want to tear the system down.

I mean, because you say the leaderships like Occupy Wall Street, but one of the big things they fought about initially was repealing the horrible gas tax that was bankrupting a bunch of French citizens because they were paying triple basically the old gas prices.

Correct.

So it was not necessarily just a left-wing movement to start.

It's that the people are now seeing that opportunity and grabbing control, right?

Correct.

Correct.

So now what you have here is a movement that is now being copied all over Europe.

This is happening in Sweden.

This is happening in Germany.

This is happening in Belgium.

It's happening all over Europe.

It was happening in England.

This is a national movement in France that now has 70% approval rating.

Well, yesterday, they announced that they want to collapse the bank and they want to collapse the Euro.

And so they are asking this weekend to go in, have French citizens go in and take at least 20% of their cash out of their bank, transfer it out of the Euro and into Bitcoin.

If there was a movement here in America that had a 70% approval rating and they could convince 70%,

50% of this population to take 20% of their money out of banks, that would be a real, real problem for America.

This could be one of the things that collapses the Euro, that collapses the economy over in Europe.

I don't know if it will be,

but this one story has everything in it that I'm looking for and is a good explainer on how these things can happen.

Political polarization,

the distance between the media and the government,

that friction between them has caused polarization.

They don't trust their government anymore.

They don't trust the banking system anymore.

They don't trust any politician anymore.

So it has bubbled over and it went into street riots.

Then they're using this power to buckle the economy.

This could bring the entire system down.

But what happens next?

Let me focus on that and the eight categories that you need to be aware of when we come back in one minute.

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do you think the average person

that maybe is not listening to the Glenbeck program has a clue as how close the world is on being totally reset?

Definitely not.

Definitely not.

I mean, I mean, look, if you look at where we are, the economy is in a pretty good place.

I think there is a people who follow politics, even if they don't understand the underlying situation, are so beat up with the polarization that I think some of them, particularly like on the left who don't like Trump, are going to be maybe understand that, or at least feel that things are out of sorts.

But that's not what you're talking about.

That's not what this is.

There's part of it that's an ingredient to this whole mess.

Yeah.

But really, it's...

It's the sum of the parts that are concerning.

And the sum of the parts are some of the things that we've always looked for.

It's the sum of the parts that led me to, oh, it's caliphate.

This riot in Egypt is going to lead to a caliphate.

Now, some people are like, well, it wasn't a caliphate in Egypt.

No, but it was a caliphate, which you were sounding out the word while you were condemning me.

Yeah, remember they used to mock you and then mispronounce the word?

Yeah, Glenn Beck thinks his caliphate is going to happen.

Excuse me?

What?

Anyway,

so

I want to give you the categories that I think will help you navigate because with self-education and information,

you're going to be able to find shelter and growth and freedom.

The world is going to be facing a.

We're approaching a crossroads.

We're either going to be, as they will be shortly in Asia, in 1984, and that's the Orwell book, or in the West, we will be living a brave new world.

Now, that's one option.

We're going to be living basically in a cage.

And it's either going to be

a soft plush cage, self-constructed, Self-constructed.

Or it's going to be a 1984 nasty cage.

That's one side.

The other is more freedom than the world has ever experienced.

More freedom for you than you can possibly even imagine today.

Because the world is changing and

the freedom factor that we are looking at is off the charts.

But there's not a lot of middle ground on this one.

So you want to be aware of the world of tomorrow

because you are so busy navigating the world of today and trying to figure it out.

We need to watch a few things.

And I have always said that this audience is going to be the audience that turns the corner.

If that's you, if you feel like, you know what, I want to be a part of the good future, then you need to be boning up this year.

on what's happening so you can be the person that says, wait, wait, wait, stop, don't go there.

Because we are approaching that time quickly.

All right.

I'm looking at

a few stories, and I want to just hit the categories first.

Civility and chaos.

It's important to look at civility as well as chaos.

Because you want to be in those places where civility thrives.

I mean, I'm really close to just telling you where I've built my ranch because it's where people should live.

And I don't want necessarily everybody to be in the area where my ranch is.

But you need to find places like this.

It's called California.

Los Angeles.

Los Angeles.

It's angels.

It's the city of Angels.

It's a place.

It's a very small farming town.

And it's important to look for places of civility.

And farming towns are really

critical to us

because

they know as farmers that I have to help my neighbor.

Because if my neighbor is in trouble, their crops failed or their tractor or their well went down,

I've got to be over there with my tractor or my tools to help them because my well is going to fail.

My tractor is going to be in disrepair.

My crops might fail.

And I want them to help me.

So it's this,

it's a society that is self-reliant and you rely on each other.

There are some strange odors from time to time.

Most of the time.

Yeah.

If you're near milking cows, all of the time.

But it's also important to pay attention to the chaos site

and who is the yellow vest, Antifa, even the Proud Boys

in a very small way in comparison.

Anything that

leads to instability or chaos, you've got to be aware of it.

Also, those who are unheard or feel they are unheard.

We need to double our efforts as people

to make sure that those who are

feeling alone and feeling unheard are not feeling unheard by us.

And

I need to make sure that everybody in this audience feels heard, that

you have

a way to have your voice and your opinion put out there.

That's going to be very, very important for stability.

Then the other thing is, is politics of meaning.

And like, for instance, yesterday, Donald Trump walked out of the meeting with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Now, I could give you an hour on all of the ins and outs of that, but here's the politics of meaning.

If you go in to buy a car or a house and somebody says, What are you looking for?

And you say, Well, I have this, I are must-haves.

If they say, Well, I can never even get close to that, or I don't have that, or I'm not offering, or I'm not willing to give that to you.

What do you do?

Walk out.

You walk out because it's a waste of time.

It was a waste of the president's time because he has certain things are must-haves.

that's politics of meaning nothing else needs to be said

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And I want to bring you in quickly

on what we're looking for because I look at you as a partner on being able to

chart a course for either the greatest freedom, health, and wealth the world has ever seen in this next page and chapter of human history.

That I think we are now on the bridge.

We are in a year from now, you're going to be standing on the other side of the bridge, and everybody's going to see this, I think, clearly.

But we're moving so fast, and we're not educating or even including the average citizen in some big topics.

We're all just concentrating on what CNN said, and what Fox did, and

what did Trump tweet?

That's meaningless stuff.

So, I want to give you eight categories that we are going to really focus on and try to put the world into context and show you what leads to a collapse and totalitarianism and what leads to freedom.

So, the first category we talked about was civility and chaos.

It's important to look for, you know, the goodness index and charity and faith and religion where it's working.

But it's also really important to look at civil unrest and war and instability and those who are preaching chaos.

For instance, Iran and Russia, now Cuba and Venezuela.

Politics of meaning, things that really truly matter.

Tweets don't matter.

Tweets do not matter.

But what the president is doing with the trade war in China matters, but not for reasons that most people even understand.

That arrest in Canada of

the Chinese CEO,

that was the thing that opened it up for me.

And I went, oh my gosh, this is what's really going on.

And you need to understand that.

Also, money and how money is going to change, how jobs and employment is going to change,

our debt, our personal debt, our credit card debt, European debt, banking, banking scandals, the way governments are going to start trapping people's money.

I bet you don't even know that your money has really been trapped.

If the bank collapses here in America, you're not getting your money out.

They're going to give it to you.

You know, the government will guarantee it, but you're not getting your money out because the banks have changed the rules.

I think you watch this weekend to see if France starts to trap people's savings and their checking accounts in their banks this weekend.

The next category would be education.

What are the jobs of the future?

What are the education alternatives?

How about entrepreneurship, home education, the goals of Common Core?

Common Core changed names, but the goals remain.

Medicine.

Medicine, we have to look at it a couple of ways, both positive and negative.

Socialized medicine versus the free market.

New ideas on how to provide health care cheaper.

High-tech healthcare.

Things that

we have to decide whether they're good or bad.

For instance, Humana healthcare, giving away a free Apple Watch if you just sign up.

Well, that's great.

Well, what they want is the information from your wrist.

Are you exercising?

Are you standing when it says stand?

Are you moving?

And that will become more and more intrusive.

Well, it's good for the free market.

Is it good for your privacy?

Also with things like CRISPR and the complete lives system, that is coming, and we're already seeing it in Great Britain.

We have to talk about ethics.

Ethics also plays a big role in the next category, and that is high-tech.

Surveillance, AI, AGI, ASI, the game changers.

The biggest game changer on the near horizon is 5G.

When that happens, you better understand

why that's a game changer.

And that plays right into

China.

But things like empathy with technology, which are the first jobs to go?

By 2020, you're going to start seeing sincere, significant job losses, permanent job losses, for instance, in trucking.

Media is the next topic.

The old versus the new.

This is where the disenfranchisement really happens.

What is the old media talking about?

And what are people actually talking about?

The deplatforming and digital ghettosation of the politically incorrect, which leads to the last topic, and that is something I call the United Corporations of America.

Google, Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft.

Who are they buying?

Who are they destroying?

What are they building?

Who are they hiring?

Who are they merging with?

What are they lobbying for right now?

I think it's really important that the people who were for net neutrality, did you know that it was Google that wrote that law?

Why would Google be interested in that?

Are they really just for you?

What are their actions overseas, especially in China?

Who are they silencing and deplatforming online?

And who's advising them on what hate speech really is?

The creepy line, the partnership with government.

Those are the things that we have to concentrate on.

We're not going to give you all of the day-to-day

little things other than like what we just did with Donald Trump walking out of the meeting yesterday.

We could dissect that for an hour.

But is it worth more, if you're looking for meaning, is it worth more than this explanation?

Pat, welcome to the program.

You walk into a store, you're buying a house, and you walk into the real estate agent, and they have a whole list.

Oh, I've got so many houses to show you today.

Good.

Do you have houses that are all under a million?

No, I don't have a single house that's, you know, they're all 3 million plus.

Are you

somehow or another being insincere by not saying, well, I can't afford that.

I told you specifically we wanted a house under a million dollars.

I'm leaving.

Is that somehow wrong?

No.

So how is it wrong that the president said, this is a condition, I must have a wall.

Now we can talk about everything else, but in the end, I must have a wall.

And if you say no,

well, why should he waste any time?

Which is what he said.

Right.

It's a complete waste of time.

Right.

That's not a temper tantrum no that's what you do in your life that's politics of meaning

those are the ways we need to start looking at things this year and having conversations

anything i missed

you got the politics of meaning but you don't have the politics of dancing i noticed there though that's i don't that's in 20 that's in 2020 oh yeah okay he does 2021 is the politics of ooh feeling good yeah yeah okay well because that's going to be fun we'll get to the ooh feeling good part oh yeah that's That's the fun talk that I'm making.

Maybe a little later than 2021.

I don't know.

Culture.

Does culture fit into one of these?

Yeah, I put that in.

Spirituality.

I put that into the first category of civility.

What did I call it?

Civility

and chaos.

The civility part is what causes us to be civil to each other.

Faith, charity, empathy.

So it all fits into the civility-chaos category.

Yeah.

To make sure that we, it's important that we look for the good places too and the positive things.

Because I think our job as broadcasters, if we take our job more seriously than just, hey, we got to make money and get some ratings,

our real job as broadcasters is to help people navigate their world and find stability in their life.

If that's possible, yes.

You don't think it's possible?

It is.

It's just hard to find sometimes, isn't it?

I mean, some days it's like, is there any stability?

Is there any common sense?

Is there any common ground anymore?

There are days when it looks like there isn't, like, none of those things exist anymore.

I know they do.

It's just hard to find.

So, you know what was interesting on yesterday's program?

Yesterday, we had all the people from Blaze Media on, not all of them, we couldn't fit all of them on, but we had a lot of them.

And we had them from significant libertarians to,

you know, significant MAGA people.

And

what I found yesterday was

similarities.

There were differences, but the differences I thought were healthy differences and could be bridged, where we have taken the conservative movement and we have chopped it all up.

And I've been a part of that, chopping it all up.

And we have to come back together and

embrace each other if you say, I believe in the Constitution of the United States.

Did anybody agree with

doing the wall through executive order?

Still?

Anyone agree with it?

Yeah.

Was anybody okay with doing it that way?

I think about there was one person who was, right?

Was it

John Miller?

John Miller, I think.

Who was saying he thought

it was a viable.

But he wasn't like super strong.

He was like, I'd rather not do it that way.

I don't think there was anyone who's like, I hope he does that.

Yeah.

I think it kind of goes to where you've been on, I don't see another way of getting it done.

Right.

Right.

And it's just frustration and it's leading you to a point you don't necessarily want to be in.

But I mean, this is a long, you know, it's understandable.

We've been talking about this for 20 years.

It's a worst thing in your mind that's ever happened.

Would you be heartbroken if it happened?

Can I tell you something?

I don't know.

I really think we should start talking about the wall this way.

Look, part of the reason why people are upset about free universal health care is because we cannot afford to give health care to the entire world.

And if the entire world can just walk across our border and then go into a hospital and get free health care, We're bankrupt.

We're already bankrupt, but there's no way of doing it.

You can't have a welfare state and open borders.

Now, that doesn't mean you have have closed doors.

It just means you have doors.

People can come in the right way.

We want that.

But those people will come in the right way and they'll make money.

They'll enhance our economy.

They'll pay into the system.

And then we can afford more than we can afford today if we just have open borders.

I don't know why we don't talk about it this way, that it's the only way health care can be afforded at all.

I mean, it's still socialized medicine still doesn't work.

But if you have open borders, there's zero chance of this working.

Yeah, the border is a real serious situation.

You know, Glenn's ongoing cascading caliphate theory that he's talked about for many years and turned out to be completely right on.

That's why I've come up with my own cascading theory, which starts with people finally realizing that avocado is disgusting.

See, it's already happening.

It's already happening.

I don't like it when you cut it and take the pit out.

It's already bad.

But

I was on vacation.

My daughter took one out that had been in the refrigerator for a day.

And I'm like, that is baby poop.

Yes.

Get it away from it.

It's disgusting.

It starts turning brown.

Get it brown.

Get it away from it.

I think Jim Gaffigan says he buys them at the supermarket and just immediately throws them out there because that's what he winds up doing anyway.

So

this is a deep theory.

Okay.

Avocado is disgusting.

This destabilizes the Mexican economy, causes a new border crisis.

The wall gets built.

Mexico retaliates by closing 70 to 80 percent of Taco Bell locations in the United States.

This leads to a hot war, which we would call the fire sauce war.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Then, once 300 million people or so die, there's a treaty signed which requires Spanish subtitles to be on every television program in the United States.

That's how it happens.

And then we all commit suicide.

That's how it happens.

That's how it ends.

That's how it happens.

So when you find yourself reading Spanish subtitles, you'll know.

You'll know.

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When the world builds and unveils a new huge skyscraper, the economy collapses.

Is that even true?

We have Dr.

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He is the guy who wrote The Skyscraper Curse.

It's a fascinating theory.

We go there in one minute.

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He's an economist with the Mises Institute and the author of the book, The Skyscraper Curse.

Dr.

Mark Mark Thornton.

Mark Thornton is with us now.

Doctor?

Yes, go ahead.

It's great to be with you today.

Thank you very much.

So I have always been fascinated by the skyscraper curse, and it it is I've never really looked into it like you did your book is absolutely fascinating can you explain what the theory is first

well it the basic theory is

that when a record-setting skyscraper is built anywhere in the world

by the time it's completed and ready to open the world is going to be experiencing an economic crisis.

And so the curse is the economic crisis that is associated with the building of a record-setting skyscraper.

Now, if I'm not mistaken, it was the Woolworth building around 19, what was it, 14, 15, something like that, that

does not fall into that category.

And that was the world's first real kind of skyscraper.

Well, you know, we've been building taller and taller for about 150 years,

and the skyscraper curse occurred earlier during the panic of 1907.

But as the Woolworth building was being built and it was being redesigned to go even higher to set the record, and then when it set the record in 1913,

there was no economic crisis that followed.

And so the original architect of the skyscraper curse, a real estate analyst named Andrew Lawrence, he called the Woolworth building a mistake of the skyscraper curse.

But when I went in and looked at the detailed statistics, what I found is that the U.S.

economy was going into a severe recession just as the Woolworth building was being prepared to be opened in early 1914.

But what Andrew Lawrence forgot or just neglected was the fact that World War I was starting in Europe and all of the

major powers of the world were getting ready for a war and they were buying steel, they were buying grain, they were buying weapons, they were buying materials, and so that reactivated the U.S.

economy and brought us out of what was one of the worst downturns in U.S.

economic history.

Okay, so

give me some, because I think it's fascinating.

The Chrysler Building is completed.

There's actually two skyscrapers.

Donald Trump owns one of them now by Wall Street, and the Chrysler Building completed.

We have the crash of 29, the Empire State Buildings completed a year later in 1930,

and we go into the Depression.

In, what was it, 1970, the World Trade Center?

That's right.

We were on a tremendous record-breaking

business cycle boom during the 1960s.

Economists from the Keynesian School thought that they had been able to do away with the business cycle, and business cycle courses were being taken out of the curriculum curriculum going into 1970 as the World Trade Tower 1 and 2 were being built and rising in New York City soon to be followed by the Sears Tower in Chicago.

And

what happened was just as all of this grandeur and glory for the Keynesians was reaching a pinnacle, the U.S.

went into an economic crisis.

We had the stagflation of 1970 through 1982.

We had the U.S.

going off the gold standard.

Things were so bad.

We had wage and price controls being imposed by Richard Nixon in 1971 just as the trade towers were coming to a new record heights.

And so that was a spectacular,

menacing sort of example of why we shouldn't trust Keynesian economics.

So before we get into what you see on the horizon,

what I really appreciated was the theory on why this is happening.

Now, there's another theory out there that, like, for instance, the Sears Tower, whenever you build a tower, and I think, again, Woolworth was the exception to this,

whenever they build a record tower, that company is at its peak.

It's all downhill from there.

And you kind of can understand that because you're thinking, okay, well, they're arrogant now.

But the way you look at this skyscraper and the things that you say

why this happens makes total sense.

So can you explain your theory on why this is true, why it happens?

Well, you know, the people who build these buildings, they may be arrogant, and their arrogance may have risen as a result of the position that they've risen to.

But basically, the underlying cause of all this is cheap credit, low interest rates, artificially low interest rates from the central bank or our Federal Reserve.

And those low interest rates, in the short run, cause people to

invest more, invest in long-term projects, invest in big, spectacular projects

because

the credit is cheap.

They're making profits.

Everybody seems to be doing well.

And so the Fed can create a rosy economic scenario in in the short run, but what it's really doing is causing people to make the wrong investments in the economy, to go beyond what would otherwise be economically rational.

And so the number one signal, the number one price in any economy is the interest rate.

And when the Fed cooks the books and reduces that interest rate for economic, political, or whatever reason they do it for, if they do it too long and too far, ultimately they're going to create male investments or bad investments like record-setting skyscrapers, which otherwise would never have been built.

So it's interesting.

It's not necessarily because it's an example of hubris or it's certainly not the cause of the economic trouble.

It's a symptom of something

of somebody else's hubris.

Yeah, yeah.

The central banks.

That's interesting.

Dr.

Mark Thornton is going to continue with us here in just a second.

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So, the author of The Skyscraper Curse, Dr.

Mark Thornton,

is on with us on the Glenbeck program.

And

you say that the skyscraper curse is real because of low interest rates that the Fed has kind of cooked the books on.

We are now coming out of a place with the lowest interest rates for the longest period of time in the history of our country and maybe the history of the world.

What does that say on what's coming?

Well, Glenn, it's scary to me.

As you said, this is an unprecedented financial environment that we've just left and of zero interest rates never happened in human history.

And that's the background.

That's the background for all corporations who, you know, what their financial structure is, is dependent upon an environment of low interest rates.

And so as we leave this environment of ultra-low interest rates, you can expect a lot of those bad investments, which we can't necessarily pinpoint

right now.

But as we go forward, a lot of those investments that people have been making in real estate, in technology, in social media, a lot of that is going to be revealed.

And I think we're starting to see this in the business news where profit expectations haven't been met, revenue expectations haven't been met, costs of production have risen unexpectedly for a lot of firms.

And so when your revenues are coming down, your accounts receivable are backing up, and your costs of production are rising, the profits disappear and the losses start to reveal themselves.

And then, of course, you have companies that are going to have to react to that

with restructuring, with bankruptcy, with foreclosures.

And I think this is a worldwide phenomenon.

It's not just the U.S., the Bank of Japan, the European central bank, of course, is still at it, really.

They haven't yet started retrenching.

And central banks around the world have had to match those policies to protect their currencies or at least to balance their currencies.

And so this is not just a U.

S.

phenomenon, it's a U.

S.

led phenomenon, but it's going to impact the entire world.

The people in the know realize that

there's corporations all around the globe, particularly in the U.

S.

in Europe and Japan and China, which are very, very vulnerable.

And we can expect

over the next two years for this crisis really to take hold.

I think we're just seeing the leading edges of it right now.

And, you know,

if this is a storm that's headed our way, put it in a category one through five.

I would say it's a category six.

You know, the silver lining here is that this is going to be a very bad economic crisis, in my opinion.

I think the empirical information is following that opinion.

And

the silver lining is that we may have an opportunity to get the world back on a gold standard or some other more sound monetary system.

They will tell you, Mark,

I have talked to people in banking and very high up in

economics.

And they all, I mean, they're all, in my opinion, they all believe the same crap that they all learned in the same schools.

But they'll tell you that there's no way the world can afford the lifestyle that we have with the gold standard.

That's why we got off it.

We had to buy more stuff.

We wanted more stuff.

We wanted a great society.

We wanted welfare.

We wanted two cars.

We wanted all that.

We can't do it with the gold standard.

What do you say to that?

Well, we can do it with a gold standard.

The gold standard is what the world,

you know, we left the world of animals and, you know, wandering around.

And we discovered sound money, silver coins, and Western civilization began to take hold a few thousand years ago.

So, this is a brief time, and we need to learn the lesson that sound money, which is independent of any political wishes, is the way to go.

And I think we can see our way back in the coming crisis.

So, we can get rid of welfare, we can get rid of social security, we can get back on a

monetary system that's sound and stable.

And I think we have a great opportunity here in this economic crisis that's coming forth

to return the world to more human-directed purpose rather than political purpose.

When you say category six,

what category would you put the Great Depression in?

I would say that's a five.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Hold on.

You would say the Great Depression was a category five, and what is coming is a category six.

That's correct.

And, you know, one of the reasons the Great Depression became great is that FDR and even Herbert Hoover tried to solve it politically.

They tried to spend their way out.

They tried to inflate their way out.

They wanted to, you know, create all sorts of government jobs, which is the wrong thing to do.

If you allow the free market to resolve an economic crisis, you can make it much shorter and much safer for people and i think that we can reduce that category six rating on this coming storm uh greatly if we were to be able to pursue a more traditional policy

i mean when you had we had wilson that scared the hell out of people followed by harding and coolidge and their recession which was far steeper than 1929 um and and the great what led to the great depression um They solved that.

That was over in like 18 months, but they stopped spending.

You're in a situation now where the world thinks that socialism is the great answer.

I mean, you're not really looking at a country that will say, you know what, we should all tighten our belts and we're in this together and let's all suffer together.

We're going to do the opposite, don't you think?

I'm afraid we might, but I think that there is a way out.

Harding

set the standard.

He required a balanced budget in a depression.

He required that interest rates be increased rather than cut.

And so the historical record is on our side.

The free market economics works.

And the socialism that we employed in the New Deal did not work.

The socialism in the Japanese bust in 1989 has not worked.

And almost three decades of pain over there and frustration.

But the Keynesian doctrine has not worked.

It's only made things worse.

It's made economic crises

longer.

So let me ask you this.

One last question.

We've got only about a minute, and I could go on for a long time with you.

You say that

when these buildings are, the ribbon is cut,

it's underway.

Is there a building we're looking at now in the skyscraper curse that when this happens, you think

that's the time?

Yes, Yes, there is, Glenn.

They're building a record-setting skyscraper in Saudi Arabia out in the middle of the desert.

It's planned to be a kilometer tall.

Oh, my God.

It's going to set the record, the world record.

And the only reason it hasn't set the world record already,

it was scheduled to break the world record in November of 2018,

and it wouldn't be complete.

But only the

corruption scandal in Saudi Arabia brought that project into a delay mode about a year ago.

So it would have already set the record.

So it's any time.

You're looking at any time you think this could

go.

This is again in November of last year.

All right.

Mark, thank you so much.

Fascinating book.

You should read it.

Really good, solid research.

It's called The Skyscraper Curse.

The Skyscraper Curse by Dr.

Mark Thornton from the Von Mises Institute.

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Mark Morgan is going to tell us what's really going on in the border next.

So I'm tired of the he said, she said.

I want somebody who's actually done the work.

I want somebody who is not politically motivated.

And in fact, if I can find somebody who's politically motivated, perhaps even in the other way,

it wouldn't be bad if I could just get the facts.

Mark Morgan is a career FBI official.

He served as Border Patrol Chief for the last six months of the Obama administration.

He was ousted by President Trump at the beginning of his presidency.

Prior to that, he was the Assistant Commissioner to the U.S.

Customs and Border Protection and a police officer at LAPD.

He served in the Marine Corps for 11 years.

And I just want the facts on what's really happening on the border.

I don't want political spin.

Welcome to the program.

Mark Morgan, how are you?

I'm doing well.

Thanks for having me, Glenn.

You bet.

Can you run down

and fact check some of the things that have been said about the border?

And can you tell the American people what's really happening?

What are we facing?

Yes, I can.

And Glenn, I tell you,

as American people are listening, I mean, what you said in your opening, is your introduction, which I appreciated, is exactly why I have broke my silence after all this time.

As time went by, At first, I wanted to give people deference that, hey, they were just misinformed, or because they were viewing facts through their own individual political, ideological lens, that they were unintentionally, you know, misinforming people.

But as time went by,

I don't say this with happiness, but I feel that there's actually some intent behind the distortion of the facts and what's out there.

And that's why I broke my silence.

And so

I'll give you one example.

If anyone says that the wall is ineffective, that they're simply misleading the American people.

There are facts, historical data that shows that the wall, as part of a multi-layered approach of infrastructure, technology, and personnel, when those things coalesce together and they're provided effectively along the southwest border, Glenn, it works.

And go to the facts.

You know, there was an article that was just published by the Yuma County Sheriffs in Arizona that said when the wall, when the wall, along with technology and personnel, came to his territory, he saw over a 90% reduction in immigration, and he saw overall crime in his territory reduced drastically.

That is a fact that's not made up.

In the United States Border Patrol, when I go there, again, I was there.

I don't understand why pundits are not listening to the experts.

Look, you know, so, you know, the president of the Border Patrol Council, Brandon Judd, and the current White House,

you know, they didn't want me there and they removed me.

And I'm here today, as you said, to say that they're right.

And the reason why they're right is because they've got decades and decades and they dedicated their entire life along the southwest border protecting our country.

And they're out there saying that the wall works.

They talked about Ncales, San Diego.

We could go on and on forever, where it is fact, Glenn.

It's not political ideology.

It's not twisting.

That's the fact.

So

yesterday, the spin was from Nancy Pelosi.

Well, they're just going to tunnel under the wall.

Yeah, that's.

Glenn, I tell you, again, I'm trying not to throw myself in the political arena.

I think it's almost impossible to talk about that issue without it being infused in politics.

But that is a ridiculous statement.

It is absolutely ridiculous.

Why?

Well, so it twists the facts.

Are tunnels used?

Yes.

Have tunnels been used?

Are they successful?

Yes.

But Glenn, that is a minute

problem.

That is a small problem of the overall problem.

And I can tell you that the Customs and Border Protection, specifically CBP, they're working every day to improve their ground center technology and tunnel technology, working with the Israel, et cetera, to improve that technology.

So that the argument is disingenuous.

So because the bad guys changed their tactics, techniques, and procedures, therefore we should do away with other infrastructure that helps reduce the other techniques they use?

I mean, do you see, it doesn't make any sense.

Can you help me with,

because I think this is a humanitarian crisis, because

we are sending mixed signals all the time.

People are sending their children over.

The sex trade

is just outrageous.

The rape on women you have a 30 chance if you're a woman you're going with a mule 30 chance of being raped um can you describe how a wall is actually the humanitarian thing to do do you have any facts to go ahead yes and and again glenn you're you're you're 100 right everything that you just said you're 100 right and that's based on my experience and fact and the experience of a whole heck of a lot of other people have been doing this a lot longer than i have because remember as the fbi I was in charge of the El Paso division.

You know,

from my office, I could see Juarez.

So I lived it for two years and worked it for two years there right on the border.

And I'm telling you, when I became chief of the Border Patrol, almost immediately, and this is back in 2016, almost immediately, you know what word I was using?

Humanitarian crisis.

And that was back in 2016.

You know, in 2014 is when the onslaught of family units and then involved to the unaccompanied miners started.

This is not a crisis that just just happened today.

It's a crisis that's been going on for a long time, and it is a dual-hatted.

It's a national security and humanitarian crisis.

And here's where the wall helps.

So look, again,

and this is where it's disingenuous too, when people want to try as a soundbite, say, well, the wall won't solve everything.

That's absolutely correct.

But guess what?

No one has ever said that.

There's not a single Border Patrol agent in the history of the Border Patrol or any leader within that agency that has ever said their wall works.

But it it is a significant part of the multi-layered approach.

And here's where it will help everything that you just talked about.

By building that wall, the infrastructure, technology, and personnel, what it's going to do is take away the avenue from the cartels and from the coyotes.

They will no longer have the avenues to what I really think is a systematic abuse and torture of the people that they're bringing through this paradigm.

I agree.

And especially what you just said.

And this is what I don't understand of the pundit's political side.

Glenn, I don't understand.

It's just what you said.

These are young girls

that are being smuggled as part of the human smuggling effort, and they're being forced into

sex trade and et cetera.

It's horrendous.

And to think that we would not support everything that the expert says we need to to mitigate that and have a positive impact on that.

I don't understand.

You build that wall, you have the technology, you have the personnel, it takes away that avenue from the cartels and the coyotes.

And now the only way that somebody can get in is through the points of entry.

And that gives us a heck of a lot better shot.

Talking to Mark Morgan, former Border Patrol chief, was with the FBI for a long time, U.S.

Marine Corps.

So with the wall, this is something that a lot of people will bring up, Mark, is, you know, as you pointed out, tunnels could theoretically go under it.

People could saw through it.

They could climb over it.

There are ways to get past walls.

But the theory is, number one, you're going to get rid of the low-hanging fruit, right?

People who don't want to do that.

Two, you're going to delay anyone who's trying to attempt that so that Border Patrol can get there.

And isn't it as well a sign, like when you're in a country and you see pictures of the wall on television, there's a lot of people that'll be dissuaded just from knowing that the wall exists.

Are those things accurate?

Again, Glenn, you know, you've done your homework and you've talked to a lot of people.

Everything you just said is right.

It's a deterrence.

It's a delay.

It forged the United States Border Patrol to use other operational tactics to secure the border.

And let me mention something about the tunnel again, because, again, it's just an outrageous comment.

So because there may be other methods to get around it, you don't want to build it.

Again, it makes no sense.

That defies common sense.

And I know the American people are smarter than than that.

But let's talk about a tunnel, just for example.

It is used, but it's few, because you can imagine

it takes a lot, a lot of time, energy, and effort to build a tunnel.

That's just not something that happens all the time and it's easily done.

It's very limited,

happens

very little in the grand scheme of things.

And so, again, the argument is just ridiculous.

It's like, so, you know, because my neighbor's house has been broken into a few times,

you know,

what's the point of getting my security system, right?

I mean, because they can still get in.

Again, it just doesn't make sense.

Mark,

I urge you, urge you to keep politics out of this.

You are a powerful spokesperson because you worked in the last six months of the Obama administration, and then, you know,

Trump ousted you at the beginning of his presidency.

And so you have credibility.

You're not a, you know, you, I don't know if you're a Trump supporter or not a Trump supporter.

I don't want to know, but I know that you worked for Obama, ousted by Trump,

and you have the facts.

Please keep politics out of this because you will.

You can open people's eyes and minds because you don't, if you had an axe to grind, you might be grinding it the opposite way.

So thank you for that, and thank you for being willing to take the slings and the arrows for standing up.

Can you

go ahead?

Go ahead.

No, I'm just saying that.

Thank you.

I sincerely appreciate you giving me the forum because that's exactly right.

And again, that's why I broke my silence because

I don't have a,

there's nothing political.

I just want to provide the American people exactly what you started off with, just the facts.

Let's talk truth, honesty, and the facts.

And I have to believe that if enough people get out there and they tell the facts, the American people will get it and understand it, and we can do the right thing for our country.

Are you up on the facts enough to tell the truth about the illegal immigrant child that died right around Christmas?

That especially Casio-Cortez has been saying that

the border guard is so bad and so wicked that in their custody, this child died.

Are you familiar enough with that to be able to tell the story?

I am enough because I think there's also some historical context that's important too.

And again, it's hard to talk about this issue because it's so emotional and so politically charged without talking about comments like that.

But here's what I would say, Glenn: is that on either side of the aisle, it doesn't matter.

But when somebody that we elected to go to represent us says such divisive things

to accuse men and women that get up every morning and put on the badge and risk their lives.

And I said last night on Tucker, you know, the United States Border Patrol agents, 127 of them have given their lives on the front lines of this country protecting us.

And that's not manufactured, Glenn.

That's real.

That's real.

That's not a manufactured stat.

That's not a manufactured crisis.

And I can tell you, if you don't mind, so when I was chief, I remember going to the Board of Patrol.

And

the chief patrol agent, Manning PD, and I were headed towards the border.

It was like midnight because a whole group of unaccompanied miners had gotten there.

And I wanted to see that firsthand.

And I told him, hey, don't let the troops know that I'm there.

So we walked up and we see this large group of unaccompanied miners.

And there was this little boy that looked to be about nine.

And he's holding the hand of what I believed to be his sister, which was about six or seven.

But what I saw, and they were terrified, right?

There's this nine little boy and this girl terrified, holding each other's hands.

But what I saw was the United States Border Patrol agent knelt down in the dirt and he's talking to them in Spanish.

And he's talking to them with, I mean, I'm getting choked up right now because he was talking to them with the utmost dignity, respect, and compassion.

He had no idea the chief was there.

And I looked at that and I looked at Manny Padilla and I said, wow.

And he's talking to this little girl boy like they were his own.

Yeah.

I've seen it myself, Mark.

I'm out of time, but I've seen it myself.

Thank you so much, and would like to talk to you again.

Mark Morgan, former Border Patrol Chief on the facts.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, Glenn.

Okay.

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carbon emissions are out for 2018.

Yeah.

And they have surged, meaning we are closer and closer to the apocalypse.

Wait a minute.

Didn't we just close down all the coal plants and everything?

Yes, a ton of coal plants, actually.

And it's up?

And it's up, which is terrifying.

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Three countries in the news: France,

Great Britain, China.

I can see France.

I can see Britain.

I can see China's underpants or something like that.

China has just come up with a new megatrone, which Andrew Heaton doesn't understand at all, and I think I'm with him.

But we begin with what's happening this weekend in France and what it may mean to you by Monday.

We go there in one minute.

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Hello, thank you.

Good to be back.

Yeah, yeah, good to have you back.

How was your holiday?

It was great.

I went to Oklahoma for Christmas, and I went camping in eastern Texas, and I went up to New York to visit friends, so I had a great time.

Holy cow.

So I was all over the board.

It was all over the board.

Yeah, yeah.

How was the change from like Oklahoma to New York?

You know, okay, so I lived in New York for six years, and I think it's kind of like if you've been stuck in a car with someone for like three or four weeks,

you have no patience whatsoever.

That's how I I was when I left New York.

Coming back, though, I had rebuilt all of that, that deep breathing and I was able to handle it.

It's fine, it's a great place to visit.

Yeah, you just don't want to be trapped, live there.

I think you can live there if you are very young or very hot or very rich.

And I am smoking hot, but I don't have enough money to make it work long term.

So that's.

Can I tell you something?

When I was living there, I was very rich.

And no, uh-uh.

No.

It makes it better,

but it still sucks.

Do you need all three of those things?

Because Glenn was rich, but certainly not young.

And certainly not hot.

And you obviously are very hot.

Yeah.

But you're not necessarily rich or young.

And

I'm 35 as of yesterday.

A quarter of my life is over now.

Yeah.

And you don't think you're going to.

I'm very optimistic, Stu.

I'm not good at math, but I'm thinking like 120.

Wow.

That's my thought.

All right.

All right.

Yeah, you're not good at math.

And one of these days you're going to find somebody to share your life with.

Yeah, I'm working on that.

I think

this is the year.

This could be the year.

This could be the year.

What do you look at?

Two or three wives.

What do you look at?

I really like playful, goofy ladies because

I kind of want to joke around, right?

So that's a big deal.

I like open-minded people

who are tolerant.

I don't really like fighting.

I'm not combative.

And I have a lot of really weird friends.

So

whoever I wind up with has to be fairly porous to other ideas coming in.

Sure.

Eclectic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

See, you fit in with us.

Yeah.

I think I fit in here very well.

Yeah, yeah.

And we're pretty eclectic.

That is an understatement, Lennon.

I think eclectic is, yes, that is the minimum FDA regulation term that we have to use for this motley crew.

What would you say the actual term is?

If eclectic is the minimum.

I mean,

I don't know psychology that very well, but I'm sure there's some kind of term for it.

All right.

So let's start with France.

Okay.

France

having riots.

You're familiar with the Yellow Vest riots.

That is their national pastime.

Yes, yes.

This was pretty serious.

The 70% approval rating with these riots.

And they just changed yesterday, about this time, they announced that.

Wait, I'm sorry, the 70% of the French population likes the riots?

Yeah,

they side with the...

I thought the riots were like the top political angles.

No, no, no, no, no.

They side with

the people who are rioting.

Okay, gotcha.

So the leadership came out and said, this weekend, we want to try something new because we want direct democracy, which as a historian yourself, works out super well.

Every time.

If you want to be a Greek city-state for 80 years, it's pretty good.

If you say outside of those,

not going to work real well.

Really?

So they want direct democracy.

They want to make up their own laws.

And they're going to try to collapse the Euro beginning this weekend.

Real quick, that could work because one of the problems of direct democracy is ultimately the people with the most free time run the country.

Because if you have a job, you don't have time to go online and write laws.

But everyone in France only works three months a year.

So they might actually be able to make that work.

That's impossible.

All right.

So they're telling people, go in, take your Euros out of your bank account, and put it into cryptocurrency.

They're saying that they like you to take everything out, but just take at least 20% out.

If that happened, if you got 70% of France to take 20% of their money out and cash it out of Euros, you could have an economic disaster on your hands all across Europe.

Are they trying to create a run on the bank?

Are they trying?

Yes.

And that's hopefully going to lead to the collapse of the Euro.

Correct.

I would be amazed.

Ambitious.

France became the champion of cryptocurrency and brought down the Euro.

That is not a prediction I had for 2019.

It's Mr.

Robot season three.

It happens, though.

Yeah, look for that.

Yeah, good, good.

I've got a plan for what France should do.

Because

when last I was reading about this with any great degree, at the time, I don't know if they've dealt with this, but at the time, the police were threatening to join the protesters.

And at that point, it's kind of game over because the only folks that are keeping marginal order in France are the police, because these have gone from protests to riot.

There's a qualitative difference, right?

So I thought, if I were Macron, what would I do?

And I came up with a brilliant solution.

As the government,

you go on strike.

That's right.

You go, we're joining you.

We agree.

We are, we, I, President McCron, I am going on strike.

I am not going to work anymore.

Uh, none of my cabinet's going to work anymore.

We're with you.

And then what happens?

Who runs the country?

And the answer to that is Germany.

And I think that's

ultimately what France needs to do, is outsource its leadership to Germany for right, right?

You know, I think if our government went on strike.

They've done that before.

You know, they've outsourced their leadership to Germany before.

It did not work out.

It touched the chart.

You know, if our government went on strike, you know, if Trump and Pelosi and Schumer said, you know, we can't agree on anything, but we're going on strike, I think the American people would cheer.

Yes, I think that could be a fairly popular thing.

Yeah, I think everybody would be like, okay, go.

All of Washington goes to the Florida Keys.

It's just a bunch of museums for a while.

That could be a lot of fun.

Right.

I think that would be a very good thing.

There are real issues with this shutdown, though, because, you know, there are some serious things that are going on with it.

Obviously, the people who are out of work.

You have the people, like these big parks close, and there's businesses nearby that are based on the traffic that goes there.

You have flood insurance coming up for renewal.

There's also food stamps.

But I think the thing that might turn people around on this is no longer can craft breweries get their labels approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, which apparently they have to do.

So no new varieties of craft beer coming into play.

I think that could actually cause enough pressure to shut down the whole debate.

This is how long I've been an alcoholic.

I first thought, when did craft, the macaroni and cheese people start making beer?

Oh, man, macaroni beer.

That sounds like a very popular, horrible idea for about six weeks of like, oh no, Wisconsin, we love beer, we love cheese.

So macaroni beer.

It's three cheese beer.

The more you talk about it, the more true.

Now I love it.

You're not your safety beer.

That could be like kind of a good Viking beer.

You may have beer cheese, cheese, which is delicious.

True, yeah.

Okay.

This could be a thing.

We may have just created a giant

somebody at Kraft is going, we are getting out of the macaroni and cheese business.

You're welcome.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So if, I mean, because this is a serious thing with our economy, China's economy, if Europe would collapse.

You know, I have

been doing this seriously with some of the war gamers that we

talk to.

Who are the allies and who are the Axis powers?

I mean, if Europe would go into chaos,

is there anyone within the sound of my voice that bets against Germany?

No.

Well, Germany kept an independent bank, too.

Like they, like, for years now, I mean, like, it's since the invention of the Euro, we're like, we are just going to keep a bank just in case, in case something happens with the Euro.

So, like, they can, like, tomorrow, they're good to go.

And also, their economy.

I mean, like, it was like, I used to live in the UK, and there's still a little bit of anti-German resentment.

And some of the older folks are like, I thought we defeated these people and they've taken over because their economy is so good.

Germany.

Well, their economy is good unless France and Italy and Spain and everybody else goes down.

Their economy is, what, 50 or 80%

export to the Euro zone.

Okay.

Yeah.

So that makes sense.

If that goes down, Germans are in trouble.

Would it necessarily follow that if the currency implodes, that the trade zone would as well?

Well, yeah.

So

I think they could, I don't think they'd have to.

No, they wouldn't have to, but the Euro, as we would know it, would be over.

That would just be, that's what they preferred.

Probably would make trading more difficult for sure because you'd have to transport.

I mean, they would all trade with each other, but the promise of the European Union is over.

It's peace and prosperity.

That's what they guaranteed.

Well, I don't have either.

So what are we doing in this?

Do we have an idea of how serious these things are when it comes to these protests?

Because I think you get that sense that

this happened many times with anonymous, and they would be like, In four hours, we're going to destroy Mark Zuckerberg's toilet.

And you're like, And then it never happens.

They threaten things all the time.

He's still going potty in his toilet.

It's still working.

Right.

Do we know?

Like, is there?

I mean, we're going to pull out 20% of our money and put it in Bitcoin to collapse a Euro.

Is that a legitimately threatened approach?

They have 70% approval rating.

That's kind of the scary part, right?

Yeah.

So if let's just just say Occupy Wall Street or Antifa had 70% of the country behind them, and then you had in that 70%, you had another 70%, 80%

that was like,

yeah, I don't have anything else better to do, but just do whatever they say this weekend.

If 70%

of that 70% would go in and take 20% of their money out of the bank, that would be very harmful.

The French government right, but that's an

impossible act.

That's asking all the people to put their money where their mouth is, which is usually a division in polling.

Yeah, between like, hey, do you want more stuff?

Yeah, do you want higher taxes?

No, okay.

Well, those are those are irreconcilable.

Yeah, but like we should poll people.

Yeah, when you're talking about collapsing the euro and collapsing the financial system,

you know, I think there's just more people that are like, um,

wait a minute, I'm not sure Because

that affects my paycheck, right?

Right.

That could affect

cash football games.

It could affect wine.

It wouldn't surprise me if it brought down the Republic.

Because we're on Republic 5.0, right?

Like

the last one, DeGaulle's the last one that started up, but they reboot a lot more frequently than we do.

They're like an old computer.

And it's also not

just France.

Remember, the yellow jacket thing has spread all over Europe, including England.

So if you had a good portion of people, I don't think it's going to happen, but if you had a good portion of people do it this weekend, it could make a real run on the banks.

And that's the last thing you want.

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You know, I think if you're if you're looking at Europe, everybody would bet on the Germans, right?

The Germans and the Italians.

You want to get them together only for dinner.

Yeah.

You tell the Germans, you bring the dessert.

You tell the Italians, you bring the main course, and you're good.

That's the only time you want to put those two peoples together.

The best idea is to keep them in different rooms while they're eating so they don't talk.

Yes.

Don't, don't, there's no, don't, no, there's, there should be no marriages or anything.

If you're worried about World War II, I feel like Germany did the heavy lifting in World War II.

I'm not as worried about Italy.

Well, Italy on their own, sure.

You know, Italy's not going to be able to.

I've been there a couple times.

I love Italy.

It's a wonderful country.

The people are friendly.

The people are beautiful.

That said, though, I feel like watches are purely fashion statements in Italy.

Oh, yeah.

I took a train from, it was the German part of Switzerland.

I took it down from wherever I was, Interlachen, to Milan.

And

as I'm on the train, the announcer comes on and goes, passengers, we apologize.

The trains will arrive eight minutes ahead of schedule.

And I was like, what?

Why are you?

And then conversely, when I got on the train from Milan to Venice, we stopped for two and a half hours.

And I...

No apology.

No, I finally grew.

And they'd oversold the ticket, so I'm just standing in a vestibule.

And I grabbed a conductor and I was like, I'm sorry to bother you.

What's going on?

He goes, oh, I can't do a good accident.

He goes, I'm sorry, the train made a wrong turn.

And I was like, It's a train.

It's on a I could steer the train.

I could absolutely steer.

I didn't know there was a steering wheel in the train.

Did you mess this up?

That was where I was like, Yeah, I'm not worried about you guys.

You guys can do whatever you need to.

So, I mean, you would, if you look at all of them, like, you know, the British are just,

you know, France, no.

Spain, maybe, is somebody that you have to worry about.

Ireland, no.

Scotland seems like, you know, you know the reason why they throw those posts?

Oh, yeah, the timber crossing?

Yeah.

Have you ever seen that?

Yeah.

So

they say, hey,

we're going to put our toughest guys in a humiliating skirt and make them throw a tree.

And they did that because England wouldn't allow them to have any swords or any weapons of any kind.

So they're like, all right, well, we can't train with weapons.

So,

hey, knock the branches off that tree.

See how far you can

throw it.

Honestly, that's how they kept, you know, trained.

They seem like a fierce opponent, but they really,

you know, ever since Braveheart, really not.

I think they're plucky opponents, but they have warm hearts deep down.

That's one of the things I love about Scotland when I visit it, because I lived there for a couple of years and I go back every year.

You're Scottish?

Yeah, ethnically, yeah.

I'm English, Scottish, and a little bit of German.

And

on my dad's side of the family, we're McGills, which means son of a stranger.

So, bastard.

I don't know why we didn't keep that name.

The McBastard family sounds a lot more fierce than McGill.

McBastard.

Yeah, it's done at the McBastards.

Which castle are you going to attack?

Toweliger Castle or McBastard Castle?

Fortress McBastard sounds like

that'd be a tough weekend.

I'm going to go after Castle McGillicutting.

Yeah, I used to live over there.

What's fun about Scots is that they're very friendly, but they seem homicidal.

So you'll walk up on the street and go, Hi, how are you?

Oh, I'm great.

How are you?

I'm fine.

I think you should meet some of my mates.

Come with me.

And you're like, this is where I die.

I'm going to get stabbed in an hour.

And then you go in, it's like, all right, this guy's from America.

We're going to buy him paints.

No, you're doing.

You've got a bunch of best friends.

It's great.

And then the sang in Glasgow, I didn't live in Glasgow, but in Glasgow, the sang is that it's so friendly.

They'll stab you and then they'll drive you to the hospital.

So it's like it's simultaneously violent but cool.

You know, I know somebody who grew up in Scotland, and he said, we weren't really even afraid of the police.

He said, the police would come.

Police would come.

He was a rough and tumble kind of guy.

And he said, we were in, you know, some bad parts of Scotland where you don't really want to be.

And he said, you know, we'd be in fights and stuff, and the police would show up, and we'd just all turn around.

We'd stop fighting and all turn around and go, back up.

Back up.

Because they don't have any guns or anything.

And I'm like, what are you going to do?

Back up.

Yeah, I think I would be somewhat careful.

But the other thing, too, though, is that remember, all parties in this equation are drunk.

So

the cops might well be on their third pint, which is perfectly acceptable at 11 o'clock in the morning.

And so, like, you don't know, it's kind of a loose candidate.

You got to be careful.

So, what are you covering on today's podcast?

Today, we're going to cover gridlock and the underlying reasons behind it.

Yesterday was a really cool update.

Have you ever had Dale Brown on?

I think you.

Dale Brown, yes, I think I have.

He runs a security firm out of Michigan.

Like, he runs a private security firm.

And he was fascinating to talk to because

he runs a ⁇

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But he doesn't use guns because he finds that they accelerate violence and things.

So if you're, okay, you're a little bit more wary.

He was cool to talk to.

And then tomorrow, we're planning to have on Jonathan Haight, which I'm really looking forward to.

I think that'll be a fun chat.

Have you ever talked to him before?

I've met him a few times.

I've not interviewed him.

His books made a big impact on me.

Yeah, me too.

Me too.

He's a fascinating guy, especially when you start at the beginning where he kind of thought he was the typical progressive liberal and then went, oh,

no,

not so much.

I mean, still we're not in the same, you know, we're in the same neighborhood.

You know, we can live in the same neighborhood

with each other, but, you know, not in the same necessarily house, if you will, politically speaking.

But he's a fascinating guy.

I think he's, I mean, he probably votes Democrat, but I think the big distinction is in New York.

Yeah, he lives in New York, yeah.

But the, um,

having talked to him, having read his book, he doesn't view political deviation as a form of heresy.

Yes, which is really important.

I think he has a way out.

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So I'm reading about Jeff Bezos and his

divorce from his wife, which is really sad.

They've been together for how long?

25 years.

25 years.

And

they've had a great relationship, far as we know

on the outside, had a great relationship.

She's been there the whole time.

Every time I've ever heard Jeff Bezos and his wife talk about marriage and things, now this is obviously years ago, they've always given the impression that they're real partners.

And, you know,

like I couldn't do what,

I couldn't do what Tanya does.

Tanya couldn't do what I do.

Together,

we can support each other and we make it together.

And I don't know if it's like that with all marriages, but I've always gotten the impression with Bezos, it is like that.

Because she was around before Amazon.

He was a millionaire.

I believe it was four years after they got married.

He was first a millionaire.

Remember, this guy is the richest man in the world.

$147 billion.

So she, I think you make a great case that she absolutely deserves half of everything.

Oh, yeah.

I think absolutely.

Certainly, you don't have a prenup in that situation.

They both had nothing.

Yeah.

And they came to the relationship without lots of assets, so they don't have a prenup.

And, you know, you're talking $147 billion.

Billion.

Billion.

He's the richest man in the world.

So she's going to be, you know, getting something like $73.5 billion,

which

is a lot to get.

Do you think you even fight over that?

You're with somebody for 25 years.

Do you think you even fight over that or just say,

here's half?

You know, you hope it's like that.

They did release a very nice statement.

You know, our relationship is changing, but we'll still be friends type of thing.

Which indicates maybe it's, you know, I mean, he's going to walk away with $73 billion.

He's still in a decent spot.

It's more than I have by a significant amount.

It's more than how much, for instance, how much, let's say, let's compare him to somebody who has, you know, $50,000 worth of wealth.

So, you know, you, you might make $50,000, but, you know, you've got...

You know, between what you have invested in your house and your car, if it was paid off and a 401k, then she got around 50 50 grand.

Yeah, which is decent.

Depending on what stage of life you're in, that's a lot more than many people have.

Let's take his $174 billion.

$147, yep.

Okay.

What is him going out and going, oh, that's a million dollars?

Yeah, give me four of those.

How much is a million dollars to Jeff Bezos compared to somebody who has $50,000?

So if you have $50,000, wow.

So he's $147 billion.

A million dollars to him is the same as 34 cents to someone who has $50,000.

Oh, my gosh.

34 cents.

Oh, my gosh.

That's incredible.

So you literally could go in.

Because if you have $50,000

and 34 candy is 34 cents a piece, you just go grab a handful.

You might even put a bag full in there.

You're like, I don't care.

Think of that.

Yeah.

I mean, look, if you go out and buy Bugattis,

you know, like,

yeah, give me one in every color and

make a color up, too.

Yeah.

Come up with a device that will create a new color never before seen by the human.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, think about this.

We talk about someone with $50,000.

Think about a normal, holy crap, that guy's rich person.

Someone with a million dollars, a million dollars, a millionaire, right?

To a millionaire.

The difference between Jeff Bezos spending a million dollars to to a millionaire, that's like $6.80.

Oh, my.

It's a value meal, right?

Like it's an extra value meal.

You wouldn't even think about it.

Oh, my gosh.

So that goes back to, and again, you know, a best advice I ever got on money was somebody who said to me, how much is enough?

Now, this is a guy, you know, who I think helped invent styrofoam.

So he had a lot of money.

And I said, I don't know.

And he said, you have to decide because it will never be enough.

If you're really successful, it will never be enough.

And I remember saying to you when we first started out, you spend what you make.

It may seem like, oh, if I could just make $100,000,

you're going to be in exactly the same situation if you don't think about it.

You need to plan and be disciplined.

Right.

Otherwise, you're going to make $100,000.

You're going to be like, I thought this was going to free my life up.

No, you just bought more stuff.

The bills go up.

The house gets a little bigger.

You know, the car gets a little nicer, but still, you're still spending money.

But if

a million dollars to Jeff Bezos is

like $6 to a millionaire,

doesn't it make it a little easier to go, yeah, she's been with me for 25 years.

Take half.

Especially that, right?

Like, I mean, first of all, Jeff Bezos isn't like, you know, he's not exactly the rock, right?

Like, I mean, he's a, he's a, he's not like the sexiest man on earth.

At any point, he will not be named that.

So to get, to be with someone, you know, like...

I don't know.

A lot of people find the cologne with the smell of money.

Yes.

No, that's very, very hot.

And that's the thing.

Like, here's someone who spent time with you for 25 years when you weren't a millionaire, when you weren't rich, when you were just this kind of, you know, nerd, right?

Like you're a really smart guy who might have a good future.

And she sticks around for 25 years.

They had four kids together.

Actually sad.

Yeah, so I feel like you're right.

I think there's a chance that he's like, look, I can deal with $73 billion and she's great.

Like, I don't think that's out of the question.

It's going to the kids anyway.

It's going to wind up going to the kids anyway.

So they wind up going from the richest, if this happens, the richest person in the world to tide for the fifth richest people in the world.

And yes,

and the empire is still going.

And it's still going.

Now, let me ask you this.

A guy that stable that has a marriage for 25 years,

he now

was, I don't know if he was caught cheating, but he was cheating.

Yeah, that's the other part of this, which is really rough.

I mean, 25 years, and then

he's been in an eight-month affair with

a television anchor who was married to like a super agent in Hollywood,

like one of the biggest agents in Hollywood.

So she was married too.

Yeah, it's going to be

an interesting thing.

Yeah, this is going to be your TMZ programming for the next two years.

But I think it's interesting just because, I mean, this is a unique guy who's probably, we were talking about this off the air, I think, that there's probably better positioned in the world of business than anyone in the world.

Think of this.

Not just the richest, but like

best positioned.

Amazon and the Washington Post, right?

You are living in Washington, D.C.

You've moved your headquarters to D.C., clearly because you want the political clout.

You're going to be there making the lobbying, making new laws.

I mean, that's really the world that we live in today.

It is,

it's, it's cronyism on, I can't even say steroids.

I don't even know what, you know, what kind of steroids this would be compared to.

But so he is in with the government.

One of his biggest clients is the Pentagon.

He has a company that everybody pretty much trusts.

It's not like Google.

I mean,

you would put an Amazon

Echo into your house faster than Google.

Yeah, they do so.

Even though Google is better probably at that particular device.

Maybe, yeah.

I mean, it definitely seems like they are.

They have a less of a creepy vibe than the Google.

So people are less creeped out by you, and yet they probably shouldn't because your fingers are in every single pie, everything.

He's got the Washington Post, so he's influencing media.

Who's better positioned?

I mean, I can't think of anybody.

He is in an amazing position, and he hasn't hit the, I'm Bill Gates, I'm going to give away all my money face.

Like, I'm sure that happens at some point.

Now, he's giving away a giant chunk here.

And I hope his relationship is worth it.

Yeah, that's really not charity.

She must have really good.

Apparently, something was fantastic about her.

Maybe she's a great chef.

I don't know.

Perhaps that's it.

That's amazing.

That's amazing.

A lot of money.

So, now the question is: does this, if you were a

big shareholder, I mean, somebody who really was invested in him, a guy going from a 25 years of stability, now maybe you know that he's really been a dog the whole time, but 25 years of stability now now into a, I'm free.

What do you think that does to Amazon?

Do you think people are worried at all about,

Jeff Bezos,

he could say,

we want to do SpaceX.

We're going to Jupiter.

You don't want stability when it comes to instability when it comes to your money.

No, you really don't.

You really don't.

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Sometimes we don't recognize the good things in life, and

we really should.

There's a lot of great things.

There's a new stat out about America and something that has gotten much, much better recently.

Yeah, over the last 25 years, we have now hit a 25-year milestone of a quarter century of consecutive decline in the cancer rate in the United States.

A quarter century.

And it's amazing.

You would think that there's no way possible for that to happen because, oh, our food's giving us cancer, our medicine's giving us cancer, our sky is giving us cancer.

Right.

I mean, that is one thing too.

Every time you see these health claims on Pinterest and Instagram, think about this for a moment here.

The rates are dropping so dramatically.

If every new thing they introduce is giving us cancer, why does this continue to happen?

I mean, it's so much of it.

It's just such nonsense.

Well,

we're getting better at detecting and curing it, though.

Yeah, well, that's part of it, too.

And, you know, honestly, like, still a lot of people die from cancer, 600,000 cancer deaths,

which is

just in one year.

However, one of the reasons for that is, I know it sounds weird, but it's actually positive.

Yeah, I know.

600,000 people are dying.

Celebrate.

The reason is a lot of people are now living long enough and surviving other things that they're getting old enough that they're actually getting cancer.

Like they're surviving the periods where people used to get it in their 40s.

Well, now they might get it in their 80s, but they're living through all the things that were threats before, getting all the way to their 80s, and then they're getting cancer and dying from cancer.

So it's good to you that the people who are 80 are dying.

That's what I'm hearing.

More people, longer lives, better outcomes.

Yes, that's good in a weird way.

It's like just like it's like the obesity thing, like obesity epidemic.

Well, that's terrible.

Well, we're kind of like, isn't it good that we're all kind of like choosing to die now?

Like now we have to sit there and say, you know what?

We get to get really, really fat and we're going to eat lots of hamburgers and french fries.

that's going to be the thing that kills us.

It's much better than starvation.

Did you see my tweet to Bernie Sanders yesterday?

So Bernie Sanders said, let me see if I can find it real quick.

Bernie Sanders tweeted something yesterday about how many people in America are starving.

And

that struck me as odd.

How many people in America are starving?

And so

I posted, I can't find it.

I posted,

you know, to Bernie,

you should have spent some time with my mother because

she always taught me the difference between starving and hungry.

My mother used to always say, you're not starving, you're hungry.

Yeah.

There's a difference.

And Bernie, there's also a difference between what you need and what you want.

Yeah.

I mean, look, the United States of America is one of the greatest success stories when it comes to fighting hunger in global history, if it's not the most free market

in global history.

There's never never been.

We're having a problem with obesity now.

See, the thing is, though, Bernie Sanders is old news.

Elizabeth Warren is the new Bernie Sanders.

And in competition, we have word today that it looks like Kamala Harris will be running for president.

It's expected that she will be announcing on or around Martin Luther King Day.

She needs to get out ahead of us.

Good thing that there won't be any race involved.

No, no, that definitely will not be an issue in this campaign.

Sure.

Sure.

Which is interesting.

I actually did a poll yesterday on Twitter, and I said, you know, I asked this to one of our guests yesterday.

If you had to pick three, three draft picks out of this Democratic field, the potential Democratic field, who would you say are the biggest threats?

Like, who are the ones that are the most likely to actually win the presidency?

And it was interesting to see.

There was a lot of...

I thought it was a surprising amount of love for Joe Biden in that one.

I would say it would be Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, number two.

Yeah, and Betto was another one that was up there.

Yeah.

Well, the other one was the three of them.

Those are the three that I had, I thought, because Biden is the only one in his category, right?

He's got that long history.

He can, I think, fight with Trump a little bit and maybe survive it.

And he's also not seen as a communist.

He's just seen as a Democrat.

Now, fair or unfair, where Kamala Harris and I think at some level, Betto as well, are seen as real far to the left.

And Betto tries to hide it, Kamala less so.

But this is starting to heat up.

We could have 30 candidates in this.

I think she's going to be.

Well,

yeah.

But I mean, can we maybe tomorrow we should look at the 30 candidates?

Okay.

Because

how many of them are actually serious?

I mean, it's going to be great to watch.

Oh, we are on the right side of this one this year.

Oh, my gosh, I'm going to love that.

It's going to be fun to just watch all of them climb over each other to get to Stalin City.

We had 30 of the best conservatives I've seen run last time.

This is Stalin City.

I'm going to, it's going to be great fun.

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