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With Patton Stuart for one more day, Glenn's back on Monday.

And Jeffy should be back next week, too, doing his podcast.

I guess he's seeing a cardiologist.

If you missed it, Jeffy had a heart attack last week, but he's doing well this week.

He actually, you can't tell that anything was wrong.

He looks much better, in my opinion.

He looks better.

You know how sometimes you feel nauseous and then you throw up and you feel a lot better?

That might have been the Jeffy thing.

Maybe he just needed to get that heart attack out of him.

Maybe.

Maybe.

And so he's got a cardiology appointment on Monday and then should be back doing his thing on Tuesday.

So we'll talk to him

certainly on my show, on Pat Gray Unleashed, which precedes this show show immediately, on the Blaze Radio and TV network.

And then I would imagine Glenn will probably have him on, too, right?

Yeah.

Do you think you and Glenn will have him?

I think so.

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Kevin Hart

had some tweets that haunted him from the past.

In fact, these, it was a long past, too.

I think it was nine years ago.

Were they nine or ten-year-old tweets?

I think they were around that area.

Yeah, I think they were from 2009 to to 2012 or something like that.

And he was scheduled to do the Oscars, and then these tweets, homophobic tweets,

appeared.

And he'd already apologized for them.

He'd already explained them, but they resurfaced and there was a big deal about it.

And so he stepped down as host of the Oscars.

Well, yesterday he showed up on Ellen.

And Ellen DeGeneres, I think, is

kind of washing him clean of his tweets.

And this is really smart to do because, obviously,

she's homosexual.

She's a lesbian.

And if you're not.

She's the authority too.

Yeah, pretty much.

Like, it seems like if you want to get an okay from someone that you're not a homophobe, if you can get Ellen to say it, then you're clear.

I feel like that is the position our society is in.

It's really smart.

Like, if,

yeah, like, there's certain people, I mean, Ellen is just such a high-profile person,

and she seems well-liked.

She's well-liked.

She seems rational.

She doesn't seem like someone who would

just

give anyone an excuse.

If she believed you and she gave you an excuse and said, look, I know you did this a while ago.

You're saying it's wrong now.

I believe you.

You should be reinstated or whatever.

That's your clearance process.

I feel in the United States in 2018.

Where we have like probably our next president is going to be Kanye West.

Let's be honest about it.

It's probably another, it's another four years of Trump and and then Kanye.

So, in a society like that, I mean, Kanye might be running against Khloe Kardashian, that might be the matchup.

So, in that society, I feel like Ellen is the authority that can come in and say, Look,

you are clean, you are not.

You're homophobe.

You are not.

Just the judge, jury, and executioner on this topic.

And if you can get a clearance from Ellen, like you get a hall pass from Ellen,

you're back in the game

on homophobic tweets.

I think this is that hall pass.

And here she is begging Kevin Hart to host the Oscars.

So I called the Academy today because I really want you to host the Oscars.

I think that I was so excited when I heard that they asked you.

I thought it was an amazing thing.

I knew how important it was and how it was a dream.

So I called them.

I said, Kevin's on.

I have no idea if he wants to come back and host, but what are your thoughts?

And they were like, oh my God, we want him to host.

We feel like that maybe he misunderstood or it was handled wrong or maybe we said the wrong thing, but we want him to host.

Whatever we can do, we would be thrilled.

And he should host the opportunity.

I hope he gets his salary doubled for it, too, man.

You know this is happening.

This is why they haven't selected another host.

It's as you suspected, and we're saying on my show earlier, that

they knew this was coming.

They knew this appearance was was going to happen on Ellen.

And so they've been holding out for this to happen.

And now he's been washed clean, and

they'll invite him back.

And he'll

reluctantly agree.

And when he does his open, somewhere in there, he will first make a couple of jokes about himself.

Right.

And then he will have some heartfelt, you know what is great gays sort of monologue.

And maybe it'll even feature Ellen.

Yeah, Ellen might come out.

Yeah.

And then there will be some special award to represent gays in entertainment.

And right?

Like this is what we get.

And then a singer

who is a well-known gay person will come out and sing and dance or whatever they do.

And they will give hugs to Kevin Hart and tell him they understand.

And we will all need to accept it now.

Then Kevin Hart will announce that he is, in fact, gay.

God, that would be a great ending.

That's an Oscars to watch right there.

That I would watch.

That I would watch.

I would watch.

Kevin did respond or at least attempt to kind of respond to the Oscars' offer, which is amazing.

First of all, before we play that,

now we're at the point where the Oscars are asking him to host again.

Right.

Like, how did one call from Ellen to Dennis

goes from your fire to please let him host?

Crazy.

Please come back, sir.

Please.

That's a lot of power.

That's a lot of power.

It really is.

Here is Kevin Hart's response.

I think you have said a lot of amazing things.

You have put a lot of things on my mind.

And I know where our relationship stands.

So leaving here,

I'm promising you, I'm evaluating this conversation.

I'm glad that I had it here.

And I'm glad that it was as authentic and real as I could have hoped that it would be.

Oh, it's real.

You let me assess

just to sit in the space and really think, and you and I will talk before anything else.

Okay.

Okay.

That's my best part.

He's hosting the Oscars.

He does it, and he gets a raise.

Yep.

He's hosted the Oscars.

That's amazing.

So a couple things here.

First of all, Ellen is a comedian.

Everyone thinks she, you know, she's a talk show host and she's been a talk show host for a million years, but her training is in stand-up comedy.

She just did, I think it was a Netflix special.

She's trying to get back in that world.

And she's probably,

probably, I don't know this for a fact, but probably on the right side when it comes to the burning at the stake of comedians every time they make a joke people don't like.

She's probably on the right side of that.

Comedians, even liberal comedians who will boycott you for, if a conservative commentator says something, they'll be on the front lines of the boycott.

But when it comes to comedians,

they're very forgiving.

And so that's probably part of this here.

And

I think that's...

She's probably on the right side of that genuinely, separately from the issues of

gay issues and all that other stuff.

When it comes to a free speech issue, I'd be surprised if Ellen was on the wrong side of it.

Yeah, I would too.

So

I think that's part of it.

And I think it's interesting to watch this sort of happen because

we are

in that world in which

we have completely abandoned free due process when it comes to things like this.

We don't even, it's just an automatic outrage machine and we go after everybody all the time.

And we've abandoned that due process for this due process, which is, will Ellen say it's okay?

Like, if Ellen says it's okay, then the guy comes back, and no one cares.

Like, he will not even be a controversial figure.

And that just happened.

Right.

And I don't think this, he won't have any lingering side effects from this now.

I think that's how clean she just washed him.

Yeah, that's amazing.

Yeah, it is.

And again, the Oscars, last year we're dealing with Oscars so white, right?

Remember that?

The Oscars were so white.

So they brought in a black host.

Yep.

Then they fired him because he wasn't friendly enough to gaze.

These people are lost

in their intersectionality.

They don't know what to do.

They have absolutely no idea how to keep up with their constantly changing standards of what's okay to say and what's not okay to say.

Yeah.

And it is

okay to host and who's not okay to host.

It is fun to watch.

Well, when liberals are eating their own, it is fun.

It is fun.

And I think that's part of the problem here.

But this is pretty interesting because

I think this was all sort of decided not on the show, but pre the show, before the show.

And this was part of the plan to get him on Ellen.

I feel like I'm watching theater a little bit here.

Yeah.

Right.

Like, oh, he's been fired.

Oh, wait a minute.

What if

you go on Ellen and you get an okay from Ellen?

We'll bring you back.

And she goes on.

And he doesn't accept it right away.

He's going to make it.

I'm going to think about it in my space for a while.

I'll tell you this: if you get a special, if the Oscars announce a special, like who wants to be a host special with like all the reality TV trappings, and I think they bring back Trump to host it.

And Trump gets to give final approval to Kevin Hart.

That's the way this needs to end.

Yes.

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And again, if that was a conservative, that wouldn't have happened.

I don't think that would have happened.

I can't think of a conservative comedian.

Can you?

Maybe,

I mean,

if it was Jim Gathigan, would that have happened?

And he's not a conservative.

Yeah, I don't think he is.

Yeah, I mean,

probably not.

I mean, I don't think he would make jokes like that anyway, but probably not.

There are people.

So it was Mike Pence, who's not a comedian, but it wouldn't have happened for Mike Pence.

Well, Pence is hilarious, though.

I mean, have you ever seen his sketch comedy stuff?

Oh, man.

It's a scream.

You know, I think the closest thing you could come to right now is Louis C.K.

And Louis K is not a conservative, but he occasionally makes points that are friendly to conservatives.

And when he does that, he gets abandoned.

They would have led him back into the world if he was Mr.

Liberal spokesperson, but he's come out and said, you know, some of the identity politics stuff is dumb.

And, you know, that thing that we've played before about abortion is absolutely amazing from him.

And it's too conservative, I think, for people's for the left.

I mean, they certainly pushes them into a tough spot to admit essentially, yes, this is a baby.

Yeah, it's a baby and it's killing babies.

And then he goes through that whole routine.

It's not really killing, but it's kind of.

Yes, it's completely killing babies.

It's amazing.

it's an amazing thing to admit and i think i think he even says in there somewhere that he's pro-choice if i remember correctly i don't even think i don't i don't even think he's a pro-life person

um he's just saying that if you want to be honest about it admit the fact that this is what you're doing and then justify it yeah we should play that

yeah we here's louis ck on abortion people hate abortion protesters they're so shrill and awful they think babies are being murdered

what are they supposed to be like i don't know it's not cool.

I don't want to be a d about it, though.

I don't want to ruin their day as they murder several babies all the time.

I don't think it's killing a baby.

I don't.

I mean, it is.

It's a little bit.

Uh-oh.

It's a little bit killing a baby.

It's a little bit.

It's 100% killing a baby.

It is.

It's totally killing a whole baby.

But

I think that women should be allowed to kill babies.

That's what I mean.

They should be allowed to kill babies.

Yeah.

And they cheer.

Yeah, and they cheer.

Amazing.

Woo!

And he mocks that.

We've got to kill babies!

It's brilliant.

Do some shots and kill some babies.

I killed like four babies last night.

It was f ⁇ ing retarded.

I just think it has to be one or the other.

You You know, like when people say abortion should be legal, safe, and rare.

Why rare if it should be legal?

If it should be legal, it's

shake.

If it should be rare, it's murdering babies.

And see, that's 100% true.

It's 100% true.

And it's a way he just covered both sides, really.

And did that brilliantly.

But I don't know if the left considers that brilliant.

It's a real loss losing him as an entertainer.

Again, if he did some,

even his explanation and the explanations and accusations against him and the scandal, we've gone over this before, are not anywhere remotely close to stuff we're talking about with Harvey Weinstein.

He just seemed like he was a creepy guy at one point in his life that did things that were very creepy that were also consented to.

So, you know,

I don't know that whole situation, if there's more to it, maybe there is.

I don't know.

But as it stands now, it's a real loss.

I mean, as far as he's able to do that.

I mean, this is a guy who was a liberal icon.

They loved this guy.

He was, you know, and he was able to do that.

I mean, that's the type of monologue that honestly can change opinions.

When you approach it like that, you take someone who you heard talk rationally and interestingly on a million different topics and you break it down like that.

That is true.

You basically have to say it's nothing.

It's just removing some cells.

It's removing some flesh.

You You know, I always think of it as it's the equivalent of plastic surgery, right?

You're removing a, maybe you're enhancing a breast, you're lifting a nose.

There's no conservative who opposes that.

You're removing fat cells.

Right.

From your stomach.

Liposuction.

Same thing.

Exactly.

There's no conservative that opposes that.

Right.

Because it's not hurting another person.

It's you doing something to yourself.

If you, it's the other life that's what is important.

And that's what he gets across there.

He does.

And it puts in a really effective way.

And he does this all the time.

He puts you in a position where

you have to sort of honestly question

what you're doing.

He puts that so, it's such a black and white and obvious truth that, you know what,

he's even saying you can take the position of,

you know,

it's just

cells or fat or poop, as he kind of puts it.

You can say that.

But admit it.

Admit that's what you're saying.

And also admit how ridiculous that is.

I mean, the lines you have to go to to get to this position are, they're impossible to navigate.

You can't, no gymnast is flexible enough to achieve it.

The problem here is what we do as a society is we say, well, it's uncomfortable.

Don't talk about it.

And if we don't talk about it, you never have to think about it.

And therefore, you can just kind of say women's rights and move on with your day.

And it's not, this is not about women's rights.

If it was about women's rights, then conservatives would be like, you cannot have that liposection.

You cannot remove

that clump of cells from your heart.

You can't have breast augmentation.

You can't do that.

No.

We would say that, you know, the government needs to crack down on women having liposuction.

We don't do that because there's not another life involved.

You're not affecting someone else's rights.

You are affecting someone else's rights when they don't have the right for their heart to beat any longer.

That is a major issue.

And it's uncomfortable to talk about.

So people don't want to do it.

But then no one has that conversation.

No one's forced into admitting that decision.

I'm making the decision that, yes, it's okay to kill the baby because women's choice takes priority over it.

That's a position you can take.

I don't know how it's consistent with the Constitution, but you can take it if you want.

At least make the argument logically.

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You know, speaking of abortion, as we were with Louis C.K.

here a minute ago,

in Ohio, they did something fairly interesting.

A bill banning abortion after a fetal heartbeat can be detected passed the Ohio Senate 1813.

Now, the previous month,

the Ohio House also voted in favor of the bill, but the Senate made some changes, so it's got to go through the House again.

The change they made was they removed a mandate

for

transvaginal ultrasounds, which can detect a heartbeat as early as six weeks.

Six weeks.

And instead, they're just doing the abdominal ultrasound.

That's one of the big talking points from the left on these bills.

Too intrusive.

It's too intrusive.

You can't force women to have that ultrasound.

And

I think a lot of women say, yeah, I don't really want to be forced to do that.

So removing that politically is a smart move for sure.

Right.

You know, again, it's, it's, if you just make a pass, it would save a lot of lives.

It's a right step in the right direction.

Right.

So you.

But usually the ultrasound, I mean, in Texas, it was something like 95% of women who were shown the ultrasound

chose not to have the abortion.

It was an amazing, overwhelming amount of women who decided not to have the abortion after being shown the ultrasound.

Because you see, well, there's my baby.

And it changes things in your mind a little bit.

It goes beyond, it's just a clump of cells.

That's some tissue.

So just the ultrasound, I think, is amazing.

I think they should put a chalk drawing of the fetus.

on a chalkboard and you have to actually physically erase it before you go to the abortion proceeding.

Can we introduce that as legislation?

We could.

You just have to.

You probably could.

You have the big eraser, and you have to erase it.

Because, I mean, look, I think that is.

There's no reason why you can't look at

an ultrasound

of the baby before this happens.

The left doesn't want that to happen, though.

No, because they don't want to.

Because they know it changes people's minds.

Honestly, it's a move from the left.

It's trying to bring emotion into the decision.

And

you are going to get emotional about your own baby.

To save a life,

you understand that?

It's just, you got to be honest with yourself on these things.

Don't try to live it.

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So the new congresspeople have been sworn in now, and

some of them have made quite a splash already.

Of course, Alexandria Casio-Cortez has been making a splash for months now.

But there's

another

congressperson who

is willing to go out on a limb and do some things that haven't been done

maybe ever, like call the president an MFer.

Her name is Rashida Tlaib.

And

here's what she had to say about President Trump.

People love you and you win.

And when your son looks at you and says, Mama, look, you won, Bullies don't win.

And I say, baby, they don't.

Because we're going to go in there.

We're going to impeach the motherfucker.

Woo!

That's a great thing to say to your little young son, too.

That's awesome.

Somehow has been overlooked.

And that, like, yes, she swore about the president, but she, at least to her word, swore to her kid, too.

I said to my son, we're going to impeach the MFR.

Wow, that's a great thing to say to your 10-year-old son.

What an awesome mother you are.

That is wonderful.

That is a mommy of the year situation.

Yeah.

This also highlights what the Democrats are facing.

Like,

like a Nancy Pelosi, does she want Donald Trump impeached?

Of course she does.

Does she want him removed?

Absolutely.

But she is going to deal with the political realities of that and realize that if they do it for no reason, like for example, nothing comes out really in the Mueller report and they try to force an impeachment anyway,

it's going to backfire on them.

That's why she's slow playing it.

The first thing she said when she was asked about this is, well, we have to wait for that Mueller report to come out.

We don't even know what's in it yet.

Now, they're going to say all of it's a big deal, but if Nancy Pelosi is playing politics, which she will,

she will likely try to slow play this to

because that is a real ⁇ what you just heard is a real passion in the party.

That is a lot.

There's a lot of these new congresspeople coming in who ran on I'm going to go impeach the president.

There's a lot of activists who really care about that going into this campaign.

Whoever says it the most is going to get the most points with these activists and these Democratic primary voters.

So Nancy Pelosi's in the middle there trying to say, look, I think if we do this, it's going to be bad for us in the long term.

But I have to make it seem like we're very interested in doing it to make people like,

what's her name?

Rashida Tlaib feel like she's cared about and wanted.

They're going to slow play them like the Republicans slow play us.

When they say to us, oh, we really want that flat tax.

I tell you, ooh, we want to lower those taxes.

Oh, the tax bill you propose is just lowering it by like one point?

Really?

I thought you were all excited about like a 10% flat tax.

What happened to that?

Well, we are, but we can't get that passed right now.

But we're going to get there if you keep electing us.

Oh, my gosh, it's going to happen for sure.

And so they're doing this.

They're going through that same dance right now with their super left-wing, you know,

voters.

Real radicals in office right now, and she's one of them.

I mean, can you imagine if

a Republican freshman congressman had called Barack Obama an MFer, they had a cow when Joe Wilson screamed, You lie.

Oh, yeah.

They went into a conniption fit over that.

That was the biggest story in America for how long?

Months.

I mean, they still talk about it from time to time.

It still comes up on CNN.

And they were saying, you lie.

So what?

If you called Barack Obama a socialist, which is a description of some of his policies, which is a description of some of the things that he believed in, like wealth redistribution.

You were a racist if you called him a socialist.

But

they can call Donald Trump an MFer, and it's not a problem.

And that's fine.

And we should point out, by the way,

for Joe Wilson, because this does not get pointed out enough.

Yes, he said you lie in the middle of an Obama speech.

Here's the CNN coverage of it at the time.

Joe Wilson shouted, you lie after President Obama denied the health care plan would cover illegal immigrants.

Here is,

I kid you not.

Again, the next election, you know, the next president, Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, on Hillary Clinton's website, she has in her platform, 112 reasons Hillary Clinton should be our next president.

Number 70, quote, she believes we should let families buy into the Affordable Health Care Act care exchanges regardless of immigration status.

It went from a controversial thing to say he was lying about it to in the platform of the next candidate.

That's how fast that happened.

Joe Wilson was totally

redeemed on that one.

And I don't know that I've ever seen anyone other than us give him credit for that.

Oh, I haven't.

I've never seen that.

The other thing about

Rashida Talib, she's a Palestinian-American who ran on a two-state solution for and continued

foreign aid to Israel.

And then

as soon as she won her primary, she decided she's for a one-state solution and no aid to Israel, which is.

Wait, so the one state is not Israel?

No.

No.

So.

It's a leap.

Wait a minute.

You've got U.S.

Congress people advocating a one-state solution?

I

don't know how that works, really.

And she's not getting any feedback from that

that I can tell.

And, you know, she's from Michigan in an area where I'm sure people are fine with her stance on a one-state solution.

But I don't know how that works in the U.S.

Congress.

I don't know how that works with Democratic leadership.

I don't know how that works in the mainstream Democrat Party.

Yeah, I mean, it's true.

I mean, Ilan Omar, who is one of the new incoming Congress people, this is a tweet from her from 2012.

Israel has hypnotized the world.

May Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.

My God.

And she's now a congresswoman.

That is unbelievable.

What's happening in the Democrat Party?

It's unbelievable.

But

what we're told all the time is that it's Republicans who are so extreme.

It's Republicans who are completely out of the mainstream.

No,

take a look at what the Democrats are electing right now.

Take a look at some of these new people that are going into office.

They're socialists.

They're anti-Israel zealots.

They're completely out of the mainstream of the United States of America.

What American wants a one-state solution?

A Palestine in the Middle East and the elimination of Israel?

I don't know anybody.

And I'm sure they exist, but they're not in the mainstream, that's for sure.

And

they're certainly not getting elected

outside of Michigan.

Yeah.

And this is the thing.

I think when,

let's say, Barack Obama's in power, there's something,

even though I agree with Joe Wilson's point, right?

There's something appealing to a conservative

to say you shouldn't just yell something in a speech.

So

people are like, you know, even at the time, you're like, all right, well, I mean, I agree with this point completely, but that probably isn't the way to do it.

And so liberals make these points when Barack Obama's president and they say, okay, look, you know, that's decorum.

This is not the thing that you do.

And there's something that appeals to conservatives generally on that point.

We've talked about like the Jonathan Haidt book of talking about how conservatives care about those types of things.

They care about traditions, right?

But the left doesn't.

And so when a Republican becomes president, all those things go out the window and they act as if they never made those arguments.

I mean, you know,

we have a congressperson saying we're going to impeach the MF for today.

We have another one yesterday who made a three-minute speech about the equivalency between the president and Adolf Hitler, another congressperson.

Right.

These things.

He's a long-time congressperson, too.

I mean, they call him liar all the time

all the time.

Now, look, every politician is a liar, as far as I know.

But that was off limits with Barack Obama.

With Barack Obama.

And Barack Obama lied all the time.

In fact,

even the left-wing organization, PolitiFact, gave him the lie of the year one year.

I mean, this is a guy who lied all the time and just was never called out on it.

So I don't, you can't take their criticism seriously.

You can only try to hold your own foundations steady.

If you believe X, Y, or Z is wrong for one person, you have to hold yourself to it because society in general is not going to make you do that anymore.

There's no longer a

the inertia of society no longer forces you to be consistent over things.

Everyone just kind of forgives you.

The one example I keep going back to is how fast this has changed.

I mean, you could argue John Kerry lost the 2004 election based on the fact that he said,

I did vote for it before I voted against it.

Remember that.

Oh, but that wouldn't matter what I owe to now.

Doesn't matter if it doesn't.

That doesn't matter at all.

Nobody cares if you do that.

You can say something today and change your position tomorrow.

Tomorrow.

And still be elected.

In fact, you could say something right now

and then in 15 minutes say the complete opposite.

And still be elected.

I mean, you said she ran on, I didn't follow her campaign, but she ran on funding to Israel.

And a two-state solution.

And day one.

And then switched it afterwards, after the primary.

After the primary.

That's amazing.

It's amazing.

And nobody cares.

Nope.

And nobody cares.

And you're going to get all these, you know, I mean, Ocasio-Cortez is a good example of the one getting all the attention.

I don't, you know, like, there's some video out of her dancing in like high school or something.

It's like, why do I care?

A complete nothing.

Nothing.

It's an absolute nothing.

Everybody has it dumb.

I mean, anyone who's like, oh, congratulations, New York.

Why?

Because their representative danced when she was 20 years old at Boston University.

So what?

So what?

Come on.

But

I did make a decision yesterday.

And I do not make these decisions lightly, Pat.

But I would encourage you to come along if you wish.

What you need to do is you go to your Twitter page and you click on settings.

Okay.

Right.

Then you go to, I think it's content preferences.

Then you click on muted words.

And then you type in the word acazio.

And then it's asked you a time and you say forever.

And then you press enter.

And it improves your life quite a bit.

Does it?

It does.

I've come to the point now, like, I, I don't care about her.

She, you know, she's a socialist congresswoman.

So then it just, you just don't see your feet on her.

I don't have to see every dumb dancing video that somebody releases or some stupid, her little

she thinks she's clever tweet back at somebody.

I just can't, I can't, I can't waste my time.

There's no way

me reading some Ocasio-Cortez tweet is a good use of my time.

I will read her, her new green jobs bill that we talked about yesterday, the new deal for the environment, which would cost us in excess of $50 trillion

by many estimates, certainly over $30.

I'll read that because it's a real thing.

But do I really need to hear her snarky comebacks of somebody or on the same thing, some dumb,

you know, conservative site that thinks it's like the most exposing video of all time to see her dance on a roof for five seconds when she was 20?

Like none of this makes any difference in my life at all.

And that's why I use the power of the mute.

I feel like I am, you know, I'm the emperor.

It's the power of the dark side.

I embrace the power of the dark side.

When I say this, when one of these little trends starts coming out and starts annoying me, muted.

And I don't hear any of the crap anymore about it.

That's the way you got to do it.

It's a good solution.

It is.

Just get it out of your life.

What is the point?

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Now,

we may not be all excited about

Alexandria Casio-Cortez's dancing on the rooftop, but you can get excited, I think, about her green plan, which is just fantastic.

She wants to retrofit all American homes and businesses with wind and solar panels.

Well, you have to do that.

You have to, because otherwise, it's going to kill the planet.

We can't keep using fossil fuels.

Anyway, she's talking about this and outlaying some of this on an upcoming 60-minute interview.

I think, is this Sunday night that we're going to see this?

Not exactly sure.

Here's a snippet.

You're talking about zero carbon emissions, no use of fossil fuels within 12 years.

That is the goal.

It's ambitious.

How is that possible?

Are you talking about everybody having to drive an electric car?

It's going to require a lot of rapid change that we don't even conceive as possible right now.

True.

What is the problem with trying to push our technological capacities to the furthest extent possible.

This would require the raising taxes.

There's an element where, yeah, people are going to have to start paying their fair share in taxes.

Do you have a specific tax rate?

You know, you look at our tax rates back in the 60s, and when you have a progressive tax rate system, your tax rate, you know, let's say from 0 to $75,000 may have been 10% or 15%, et cetera.

But once you get to like the tippy tops, on your 10 millionth dollar, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70 percent.

That doesn't mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate, but it means that as you climb up this ladder, you should be contributing more.

What you are talking about, just big picture, is a radical agenda compared to the way politics is done right now.

Well,

I think that it only has ever been radicals that have changed this country.

Abraham Lincoln made the radical decision to sign the Emancipation Proclamation.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt made the radical decision to embark on establishing programs like Social Security.

That is radical.

That's bad.

That was radical.

That's a radical.

Yeah, you know, if that's what radical means, call me a radical.

No, she's a radical.

Oh, you're a radical.

What a brave stance.

If radical means Abraham Lincoln, call me a radical.

Yeah, okay, got it.

Got it.

By the way, tax rates, 1963, for example, 91% was the top rate.

Just the 91% of all of your income.

Well, there's your fair share.

No, sorry, not all of your income.

Only if you're wealthy at the top.

91%.

I mean, again, she's determining the period.

She says it does go down to 77%, though, that next year.

So maybe she only wants it to be 77.

Let's be fair to AOC.

At least somebody's outlying what your fair share is.

That's it.

Now we know, I guess.

91%.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, I think you could call her a radical.

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An amazing thing happened at a GameStop.

the other day where a customer came in and the clerk behind the desk

said something about, hey, you guys need, and then that sat off the customer in an amazing way.

Listen to what happened in the GameStop.

Ma'am, I said both of you, no, you said sir.

Once again, it's ma'am.

Both of you guys

right beforehand, you said sir.

Sir?

Take it outside.

Do you want to call me sir again?

I will show you.

Sir, I apologize.

Oh, well, I thought you were a man.

Wait, you're going to show me, sir?

Hmm.

I need your corporate number because I'm gonna talk call them and talk about how it's misgendered several times in this store.

I need your corporate number now.

Sounds like a woman, right?

Oh, totally.

Yeah, it sounds like a woman.

I'm sorry, I'll say it.

Taylor Swift, it almost sounds like Taylor Swift.

I'm going to ask you for the fifth time to stop calling me a man, because quite clearly I am not.

Quite clearly.

Oh, quite clearly.

I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a man because quite clearly I'm not.

All right?

This is over here.

You're talking to me.

Sorry, I have ears and eyes.

Yes.

And I'm sorry,

ma'am.

But quite clearly.

No,

you can't use that phrase.

And that's a fascinating part of this because the whole point

of this gender thing,

right, is that you can't look at someone and identify them by their looks.

Right.

Right?

Like, you have to know how they identify.

And appropriately figure it out.

So, even if she did look like a woman, you probably shouldn't say ma'am, right?

Because what if she identifies as a man?

So,

the whole premise here is ridiculous.

I guess we have to refer to people in the plural now.

They and them.

They, them.

And that's, I think that's the preferred pronoun for some.

Oh, we should.

We should actually bring back the controversial Louis C.K.

thing from yesterday.

Oh, yeah.

Because this is the exact same thing he's complaining about in that controversial stand-up stuff.

But it's like, first of all, no woman in history has ever reacted like that to that situation.

You want me to take you outside and show you my man?

I'll show you a man.

Wait, I thought you were a woman.

Why are you going to show me a man?

How does that happen?

Oh, I'm really confused.

This one feels like a setup to me, Pat.

This one feels like the type of thing, you know, I'm going to go in there and they're going to call me sir and then I'm going to overreact and go crazy and make a good deal out of it and sue or whatever.

Yeah.

Because, you know, like, it doesn't make any sense.

You know,

wouldn't you, if you're in that situation, if you're a transgender person, and we've had plenty of transgender people call this over the years and explain basically this, that

they understand that what they're going through is maybe not this thing that everybody's used to dealing with.

And so if someone were to make a mistake like that, you might correct them.

You know, if they're not trying to be a jerk to you, though, like you're going to show grace to them, aren't you?

You're going to say, oh, you know, actually, just so you know,

I'm a dude or I'm a woman.

And the person, you know what, the person at GameStop says, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

Like, that's how the incident could totally go down.

There's no,

there's no reason to turn it into that.

Right.

And that's why it feels to me like a setup.

The other thing here, Pat.

If you want the corporate number of GameStop, just Google it.

You don't need to wait in there for them to give it to you.

Google the number.

Right.

You're going to be able to find it.

And of course, GameStop will probably be like, what we've done is we've given him free Xboxes every week for life.

We have given him free access to any store to come in and take a crap on the floor at any time.

Oh, did I say he?

Oops.

I mean, she at any time can come in and take a crap at any one of our 475 stores in the continental United States.

Because quite clearly, we're talking about a woman.

Quite clearly.

Quite clearly.

As you can hear.

So, and I wonder i should do a little follow-up and see if game stop fired the employee too i hope not because clearly the the employee was just confused didn't know yeah

i mean guys is a term that can control that can cover anybody to me yes i say guys to women all the time all the time i mean it you guys want to go

it's a group it's a general term meaning people to me at this point it we're not we no longer live in the era of guys and dolls right do we is that where we are i don't think so i don't think so i don't think so If you want to bring back and make it okay for me to call women dolls, then I'll consider your position on this.

But for the most part, guys just means anybody.

Now, look, I think probably

the employee did think it was a man.

One reason why is it's a man.

Yes.

I mean,

quite clearly,

biologically a man.

By any outward appearance

and or auditory evidence, you would think that that is a guy.

And aren't we supposed to deny all of that exists?

Now, we're supposed to deny, I guess, that there are actual characteristics of a man and there are characteristics of a woman.

Right.

Well, and that's the thing.

He's.

She is claiming it's obvious based on her physical characteristics that she's a woman.

And they're going to tell you something else.

And when you see the video, her characteristics tell you something else.

What do they tell you about?

You'd have to look at it and see what it tells you.

Right.

It tells you quite obviously, this looks like a guy.

Yeah, it does.

Yeah.

But it's such a strange thing.

It's like

he is saying,

the employee, he's looking at this person and saying, that's a guy.

That's what he believes instinctively.

And he seems to be right on that, by the way.

Then...

This transgendered person, at least we're reported transgender person,

says, it's obvious based on my physical characteristics that I'm a woman.

Well, that's never the,

you are now telling this person what they should take from physical characteristics, which is much bigger overstep than getting a gender wrong.

You're now telling them you should recognize these things as female when intuitively he says it's a male and he's right.

Yes.

So, I mean, this is just, you know, it's ridiculous.

And I feel like it feels to me so outlandish.

It feels manufactured.

You know, it feels like one of those things where here's what's going to happen: you stand over there with your phone, or I'll go in there and I'll raise a ruckus, and then I'll go ask the person for the video, and then we'll go to GameStop, and I get free Zelda for life, right?

Like, that's the play.

You know, or it's a big lawsuit, right?

They pay him $100,000.

Yes.

And, you know, no, and in a week, we all forget about the story.

We don't care.

But GameStop gives a person $100,000 for a year.

And it's just easier for them to pay out a bunch of money and then fight it in court.

And that's probably what will happen.

That's probably what will happen.

That's sad, man.

Really sad.

You know, I hate that it's, but that's the reality now.

You have to make these decisions.

We've been in these situations, right?

I mean, we've been in situations many, many times in which our instincts say, look, I just want to sit here and just fight with this person

in a public forum verbally and take down their arguments.

But you realize afterwards, you don't get anything out of it.

Like at the end of the day, it might make you feel good for a few moments, but at the end of the day, you get nothing out of it.

You spend more money than you would have spent by just brushing it off.

You don't convince anybody.

No one comes to your side and is like, oh, wow, you know what?

I first was with a transgender person, but now I see GameStops, this giant corporation.

I see their reasoning.

No one ever does that because no one ever cares to.

You know, we are, I think, you know, like if you're a listener to a talk radio show and you're sitting here listening to this stuff 15, 20 hours a week, you know, this is what you like.

You like to listen to these, you know, hopefully both sides and determine what's right and wrong.

I've had situations where I've come out at the beginning and my initial impression was one way.

And when you really look at the details, you're like, wait a minute, no, this is the other way.

It happens a lot.

Now, it's our jobs.

So, you know, we have to do it.

And most people actually have real work to do and things that actually help the country and move our economy forward and things like that, important things.

Where we get to sit here and blab all day.

So we have that luxury of being able to sit here and look at all this stuff all day long and try to figure out the nuance there.

Most people don't.

You know, talk radio listeners are an exception, I think, generally speaking, because they're willing to spend.

I mean, if you're listening to this show and maybe a couple of the other big national shows, you're in for a full-time job listening to talk radio.

I mean, we're doing 15, Rush is doing 15, Hannity's doing 15, you're at 45 hours, right?

Like, you've spent a good chunk of your week listening to people talk about these issues and break them down and give you different perspectives on it, hopefully.

And at the end of the day, you're going to be a lot more informed than the average person who's just not going to follow these things that closely.

And you see how this would react.

If you're, if you're flipping through the headlines, you don't look at the pictures, you don't watch the video, you see a transgender person harassed at GameStop, you you hate GameStop.

Yeah.

Right?

Yep.

And when GameStop did nothing wrong there.

I mean, at least as far as the information that we have at this point, it doesn't seem to have done anything wrong, was completely the rational actor in that situation, the GameStop employee.

No question.

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Apparently, a couple of our border officials are speaking out about the wall.

National Border Patrol Council President Art Del Queto.

You might recognize the name as

perhaps of Hispanic ethnicity.

Did you

ask by every identifying characteristic?

that person is Croatian?

And you called him Hispanic.

Unbelievable.

It is unbelievable.

So this was during a White House press briefing, and he was talking about building the wall.

Here's what he had to say.

Sorry, Robin.

I just want to talk about some of those criminals that Border Patrol agents apprehend on a daily basis.

We're talking about murderers, rapists, people that commit very serious crimes in this country.

ICE has been doing an amazing job in deporting a lot of these people back to their countries.

Unfortunately, once we deport these people, these people will not stay in their country.

These criminal aliens that have been released from jail, that have been deported, will come right back into the United States.

However, if we had a physical barrier, if we had a wall, we would be able to stop that.

Oh, what a hater!

What a hate monger.

What a racist.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

He outlines: here's a guy who deals with this every single day of the week.

Every day, he knows that criminal, illegal aliens are coming across the border.

And he knows that that's a problem.

And he knows that when they catch him and they send him back, they still come right back across the border.

So, how would it be?

What would happen if maybe we had some border security and maybe put up a wall to make it a little harder for him?

That's amazing.

And they've also worked in areas with walls.

This is not

or at least fencing.

Yeah, yeah, fencing.

Yeah.

Because they, one of them, maybe it's this next clip here.

Let's listen to this next one.

This is Hector Garza.

You also might notice that.

It's a Croatian.

Yeah.

Here's Victor Garza.

This is Border Patrol on needing a wall.

Okay, so let's do the other one.

Border Patrol on wall, nothing to do with politics.

We did those backwards.

It has nothing to do with political parties.

You all got to ask yourself this question.

If I come to your home, do you want me to knock on the front door or do you want me to climb through that window?

We fully support the president and all his efforts to secure our nation's borders.

Wow.

That's pretty clear.

This is a weird situation because this is a

called,

they said it was going to be a press briefing.

So it was in the room where you always see Sarah Huckabee Sanders talking in the press briefing room.

And they didn't take any questions.

So that was a big, that was a big thing that, oh, CNN was very upset that they didn't take any questions afterwards, as if something important was going to come after it.

But the point here is that these guys were here.

They obviously have a Hispanic background.

They're not haters of Mexicans.

They just want the freaking border secured, and they're the people on the front lines having to deal with it every day.

And he said they routinely arrest murderers and rapists, but a wall would help stop them from coming back after they're deported.

I mean,

again, these are the guys who deal with it every single day.

Are you going to tell them they're racists?

Are you going to tell them they're haters?

Right.

It's ridiculous.

And this debate gets so

boiled down to just nonsense, I think, at this point.

Like, you know, I think there are some people who believe the wall is going to solve this problem.

And I know you're pro-fence.

I'm pro-fence,

you know, specifically in the areas where it is, you know, most useful.

But

it's a small part of this problem.

What is it?

40% of people who are here illegally are overstate visas.

That has nothing to do with a wall.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, there's ports.

We have ports.

We have a whole Canadian border with no wall.

Like, there's a million different things that could.

There's still going to be illegal immigrants here, whether the wall is built or not.

And we shouldn't look at that as

an end-all-be-all.

It's just a

step in the right direction.

It will help.

Yes.

Right.

So, why wouldn't we do it?

It will help.

Secondarily, the left acts as if it won't work.

Like, how inane of a viewpoint is it to say that a physical barrier won't stop some people?

Obviously, it's not going to stop everybody.

You know, if

a giant cartel decides they're going to break through that wall at some point, they're going to be able to do it, and they're going to come through momentarily, and we're going to have to try to stop them once they're through.

Like, they're going to have the hardware to get through a fence or a wall.

Yes.

But you know what?

Not every coyote, not every group of immigrants who are coming over the border are going to be able to do that.

It will stop a lot, the majority of the easy ones.

It's going to stop the low-hanging fruit.

And that's important.

That is important because you're stopping not only people who are coming here illegally and that's their only crime, but people who have committed other crimes as well, sometimes serious ones.

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Talking a little bit about the border wall, which the Democrats claim is just not going to get built.

And

frankly, I believe them.

I don't have a lot of confidence in it anymore.

And they just claim it's not going to work anyway and that it is immoral.

That's their new thing.

A wall is immoral.

Since when is a wall immoral?

Well, since when is a fence immoral?

That's just, it's asinine.

Are you telling me the fence around the White House is immoral?

Are you telling me the wall around the Vatican is immoral?

That's ridiculous.

The wall is only there because of an immoral act, right?

The idea that people are breaking the law and coming in when they are not able to do it legally.

That act, I think, is an immoral act in many situations.

I mean, you know, asylum's different.

There's some exceptions to this.

But those are, again, there's processes for that.

You don't just just come.

You don't just come in.

You know, it's like you don't just come in and take something, whether you think you should have it or not.

You know, I mean, that's not yours.

And so

these are basic tenets of civilization.

You're right.

And so if they weren't doing that, and the example is obvious.

It's true.

We don't just build walls on borders where there's no problems.

Look at our Canadian one.

Nobody's clamoring for a border wall to the north.

They're not coming across the border illegally and breaking rules and staying here and taking our benefits and doing all sorts of of things they're not supposed to.

And it's not because Canada is predominantly white that we say, well, we don't need a wall.

It's because there's not the problem there that there is at the southern border.

The wall is not moral or immoral.

The wall is just a it's it's a structure that tries to enforce the law.

That's it.

It tries to help enforce the law because apparently 20 million people from our southern border, and how many is it?

Maybe Maybe 10 of that

have come through that way, eight of it.

The bottom line is those people can't be trusted without a wall.

They can't because this is not like there should be, it should be enough to be able to say, look, come through the legal process and people should follow the rules.

That should be enough.

And they're not doing that.

So this is why this step is being taken.

The wall is immoral.

What are you talking about?

You put a wall.

Lunacy.

It means it's like if you can put a wall up for an immoral reason Right, it's theoretically possible like if you put a wall up around

Let's say the Jewish ghetto, right?

There's an immoral wall.

It's not the wall that's immoral.

It's the policy behind the wall.

If you're trying to trap your citizens inside your country so you can continue to oppress them.

Like Berlin.

East Germany, for instance, that's immoral.

That's an immoral policy.

And you're going to shoot them if they try to leave.

That's immoral.

The wall's not immoral.

No.

It's ridiculous.

The wall is just an idea to say, hey, you got to enforce the law.

And we've tried to do it a hundred different ways.

We've tried to make, we've tried to say, hey, don't come.

We've said, hey, here's a new law that says you can't do that.

Hey, when you come here, you're not allowed to get X, Y, and Z.

We've tried a lot of stuff.

We put border agents down there.

We've tried with technology.

We've said there's lots of physical barriers like rivers and mountains, and they still keep coming.

So we got to keep, we, you know, taking another step to try to reduce that percentage is, I think, appropriate.

It's not crazy.

It's not a question of morality or not.

Follow the law, and this wouldn't even need to happen.

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Been talking about the wall and how it's just not going to work, is what we're being told by the Democrats.

First of all,

walls don't work, and they're immoral.

Silly, ridiculous.

When they put up the fence in San Diego, it was, it was

before the fence, there was a cable that stretched across the area to denote that you've crossed over from Mexico to the United States.

And when they built the fence, it was a double and in some cases, triple fence, and I think it stretched something like 15 miles.

It stopped illegal crossings by 95%.

And violent crime went down over 90% in the area.

In Israel, Israel claims that

the fence they built between them and the Palestinians

led to a 90% reduction in terrorist strikes.

I mean, walls and fences work.

That's why they're always firing missiles over top now.

Right.

Yes.

It's harder to, it's harder to get there.

Again, it doesn't stop everybody.

It doesn't stop, it certainly doesn't solve some of our other immigration issues, but it solves the vast majority of what you would call the low-hanging fruit, like the easy ones to stop.

Unless you're, if you're a terrorist organization, you may be able to come up with a firepower to get through a wall or get around it if you have lots of resources.

But when you're talking about people coming over who might be minor criminals, who may be your typical

thief or whatever,

along with a lot of people who just want to come in and may have all the best intentions in the world to come here and

save their family, but aren't doing it legally, it's going to stop them.

And you might say, well, I don't want those people to be stopped.

Well, I don't want them to be stopped either.

If a person who wants to come here

that has all the best intentions and can do something here in our society and be a good actor, we all want them here.

They just need to come the right way.

Yeah, come legally.

And we can revisit.

Once you stop the flood,

when you have a break in your plumbing in your house, what do you do first?

You say, hey, I want to buy new appliances because

my oven's not working that well.

While the floor is being filled with water, while it's flooding in your house, no, you want to stop the flooding first, and then you can deal with some of the other things going on in your house.

And that's what that's kind of what the wall and the fencing is about.

It's get a handle on the influx first, and then you can deal with all of the other situations.

You can decide how many people are able to come here legally, because now not as many people are coming illegally.

You can maybe make the process a little bit easier for those who are really in a bad way.

You can check on the visas and whether they've expired or not, and we can fix a lot of these problems.

But first of all, it starts with border security.

That's where it's got to begin.

And we've said that for years, and they just won't do it, which is so frustrating.

It is.

And now the word is that the president is in the game to trade DACA for his wall funding, which I don't necessarily think is a great idea.

It's not.

But he wants this wall badly, obviously.

It was a big campaign promise.

And he was getting beat up by people on Fox and on Talk Radio for not saying,

he basically backed off initially his promise to close the government

for this purpose.

And to his credit,

he's decided to reverse that and has now said, hey, look, we're going to let this go as far.

I think it was Tucker Carlson who had Mike Pence on last night.

I mean, Pence doesn't seem like there's a lot of wiggle room here.

Listen.

New Speaker of the House this morning again said, no money for the wall.

Well, the American people know walls work.

Literally 2,000 people a day attempt to come into this country illegally by one means or another.

We can agree on those facts, come together around solutions, but part of that solution means a wall, it means a barrier along our southern border.

And it also means technology, drones, the kind of support that our border agents know will assist them in doing their job.

But bottom line, if there's no wall, there's no deal.

I mean, I hope they stick to that.

And I think they will.

I hope so.

It's interesting.

Because I don't think that there's any incentive.

for Democrats to

go along with this because the media is going to assist them in every way possible.

So, why would they give up ground?

And maybe they will.

I mean, you know, they're just as incompetent as the other side, but like, maybe they will.

But politically, I don't see what,

why, why would they bother?

It's just going to want everyone's.

I mean, Trump already said on record it was his shutdown.

He's, there's no blame argument going back and forth here.

He's already said he's taken the blame for it.

Again, to his credit, if he, if he believes in it and he's, he's willing to take the

heat,

that's great.

But,

you know he's already said it they're gonna be able to run ads with him saying that over and over and over and over again which they will which they will so why what incentive do they have other than to make this as bad as possible like if for them the more pain the better here because it's all Donald Trump who caused it

and I can't imagine they're going to be like well unless they get something really big like DACA level big right like DACA is something they've been fighting for for what 15 years long time and and it was done unconstitutionally

And

they might want that.

Maybe that would be enough.

But that was already rejected.

And they're saying that's not enough now.

They're going to want something either very big or they'll just let this thing just sit there and bleed.

Eventually, you know, the pressure.

Something's got to give.

Yeah, something's going to give.

And they're, and by the way, the way they're handling this is the way I've argued Republicans should handle these things before when Barack Obama was in office.

They've passed all the spending bills for every other department.

So they said there's like seven agencies that are closed down here, and they've passed all the spending bills for six of them.

So all of those people could come back to work today if Republicans weren't quote unquote in the way, right?

That's the way they're framing it.

And

there's the Homeland Security one they've passed with, they've passed a temporary, or they're going to be passing a temporary measure that would like say, okay, well, we'll negotiate the wall for a month, but you let these people come back to work.

So this is an easy sell for the media to swallow.

And he's already said on record it's his, it's his shutdown.

It's Trump's shutdown.

So this, the only, you know, as these 800,000 people or whatever it is that aren't getting paid,

you know, this goes on and on and on and on.

There's, it's going to ramp up the pressure on Republicans and it's going to make life easier for Democrats.

At least I think the way they're seeing it.

So I don't see why they would bother giving in on this one.

Do you?

I mean, no, they probably won't.

But somebody's going to have to.

It's going to have to either be Trump or Democrats.

And

something has to give.

Is there some point down there?

Eventually, we just realize, actually, maybe we didn't need all that stuff.

This has been six months of a shutdown, and I haven't noticed anything.

I think you and I would realize that, but I don't know.

The federal workers are a big deal.

Even though I think bureaucracies are too big, you should be getting paid for your work.

I mean, I was at the airport on this vacation, and as I went through the TSA, the guy said, someone asked, hey, how's your holiday going?

It would be good if I was getting paid.

That was his response.

Oh, wow.

Like, I mean, they have to be there working, and they're not getting paid at this point.

Now, once you hit the first couple of weeks, it's just BS, right?

Because you're not even getting, you wouldn't get a paycheck anyway.

You wouldn't necessarily notice you're not getting, quote-unquote, paid.

But we're getting to the point now where we're hitting past paychecks, and soon it'll be multiple paychecks.

Those people will get into real, have start having real financial problems in the not too distant future.

Yeah.

And that.

And they're going to stop doing the job for free.

Yeah, and they sued now because of that.

I mean, and I actually support them.

Why can the government support force people to go to work without paying them?

Like, that's not a good precedent to set.

I think we had an amendment to stop that sort of practice, right?

Like, you're not supposed to be able to force people to work without paying them.

So what would it be like if our Congress actually passed

a budget rather than spending bills all the time, rather than temporary spending bills that last for six months or eight months or nine months?

What if we actually passed a budget for the first time in nine years

and actually ran the government the way it's supposed to?

Wouldn't that be great?

That would be nice.

Why can't we...

We should be insisting on that as well.

We should absolutely put our foot down as American people and insist on that.

I mean, they couldn't even.

With total Republican control, they're certainly not going to do it in this environment, right?

Right.

They're not going to.

They're not.

One way to pay for this with the wall would be the El Chapo Act.

This was reintroduced by Ted Cruz over the last 24 hours, which basically says, hey, you know, when

we're prosecuting El Chapo and we take a bunch of his assets, those assets should go to border security.

Whenever we take a drug lord down and we get a bunch of their assets, that money should go to the wall.

I think it's a great idea.

It's the clearest line.

If we're getting drug money, that's exactly where it should go to stop future incidents where drug lords are able to take advantage of our country.

Again, this is another thing that couldn't even pass among Republicans, so I doubt it's going to pass here, but it's a good idea.

If we can get get a billion dollars off of El Chapo, hey, we're 20% of the way there for that funding to start up that wall.

I like that.

We've talked about this before.

It doesn't make sense to me that it would cost $25 billion to build a freaking long wall or long fence.

I mean, they keep saying like, well, it's $7 million a mile.

It's like, really?

Is it?

I heard $34 million.

Is it $34 million a mile?

$34 million a mile.

Does that seem right?

No, forget it.

It doesn't.

I feel like I could go to Home Depot and get it done easier, cheaper than that.

That's what I feel like.

Actually.

I think so.

Have you ever, have you ever, you've had an office job before, right?

Didn't you sell insurance or something for like a year?

Mm-hmm.

You know, when you're sitting in a cubicle and

you want to do something, you want to go get something from another coworker, but the last thing you want to do is go around that cubicle wall.

It's like you'd rather yell over it or toss things over it over and over again because you're too lazy to get off your fat ass and go around the corner around the cubicle wall.

Yeah.

I think it would be cheaper.

What if we built the wall out of cubicle walls?

Because, you know, it's a compromise position.

You know, the left doesn't want a wall.

The right wants this, you know, 30-foot wall.

If you come up with just a nice cubicle wall, no one wants to cross a cubicle wall.

And it can't cost that much.

It can't cost that much.

And we can still talk over it, maybe throw things over to each other if we want to.

We can keep relations open.

I like it.

I think we just line up a bunch of cubicle walls all across the border and we solve the problem for like half the cost.

And think of the business for Office Max.

Right.

And staples.

Throw a lot of office supplies over it.

You really could.

You really could.

You really could.

I bet they have some sort of discount.

Like, if you buy more than one, you maybe get a gift card.

We could start giving away gift cards.

We can buy lots of number two pencils.

There's a lot here.

It's a plan.

I think that's a plan that we go with.

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Sexism claims, of course, from the Bernie Sanders camp, from his 2016 run.

Apparently, women were paid less.

I think we talked about this a little bit yesterday.

The women were paid less and treated worse.

And I don't know.

I get the impression that the Democrats are pretty much done with Bernie Sanders, done with Hillary Clinton, and they're looking for the new kids in town.

It's going to be Betto's show.

They're sending him a signal.

Look at the coverage between Beto and Sanders.

They're They're sending a signal.

Betto's in, you're out.

You're out, old man.

Get out of here.

And it's almost like we don't even want you to run this time.

We don't want to waste any Democrat funds on you, old guard people.

Nope.

It's going to be all Beto all the time, I think.

It seems to the activists.

And I don't know if it's even Biden.

I think Biden might be bitten by that bug as well.

Maybe.

I think Biden,

it's possible.

I think they see Biden as a possible

real threat to Trump if he were to win.

Again, I don't know if that's

misleading, but I think they think that there's a chance there.

With Bernie, I think they realize Bernie Sanders is not winning this election.

And who knows in this world?

I mean, I would not be surprised about anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if a Kardashian jumped in a week before the election and won't be at this point.

I wouldn't either.

But

I don't think Sanders is a you can get the same policies out of about 10 different candidates on the Democratic side that are better chances to win than Bernie Sanders.

For sure.

You know, Betto, Kamala Harris,

Kirsten Gillibrand,

Betto O'Rourke, for sure.

You know, Julian Castro.

Like, there's a million people.

And you're right.

They're essentially the same socialist policies.

Some policies.

As Bernie, just in a younger package.

There's not a ton of diversity when it comes to

ideology on the Democratic side.

Oh, there's almost none.

Where there really was with Republicans last time.

They had 17 candidates, and you had everything from, I mean, George Pataki ran, right?

Like, you had that all the way to Ted Cruz.

Like, you had a real wide choice to select from there.

On the left, you have all the way from communism clear to socialism.

Right.

I mean,

who's the most conservative person that looks like they're going to run?

The most moderate Democrat?

I mean, it might be Biden, who's, you know.

Yeah, I think it would be Biden.

You know, he's a 90% liberal, right?

Like, he's just not 99% liberal.

Occasionally, he'll say something about the free market or something.

Wasn't there just an article about how some Democrats...

Yeah, I was reading, maybe it was early this morning, where they were saying Biden is not liberal enough for us.

We don't like him.

We don't want him to run.

Because Biden is going to look at this and say, I can appeal to Pennsylvania, to Wisconsin, to Michigan, to Ohio.

I can win those states by being quote-unquote rational, right?

Where Bernie Sanders has no chance of that.

But as these guys compete to get further to the left of each other, you know,

Kamala Harris is going to push a Beto O'Rourke further to the left to win the primary votes.

And that is going to be, it's a bad formula.

They're going to want someone who looks moderately rational at some point.

And they're going to say Biden's the guy.

I mean, there's other people who you think, you know, there's governors from, you know, from like Western states and, you know, I don't know, Joe Manchin or somebody like that that they're going to try to throw up there as Mike Mali again, maybe.

Right.

But none of those people are legitimate threats, at least at this point.

I mean, as far as someone who would look as, like, let's say a Democrat that could exist in the year 2000,

Biden, and I don't know who else.

No, I think that's it.

Out of the ones that we know about that are probably going to run, Biden's probably the most moderate, and that says something.

Yeah,

that's amazing.

I mean, Bernie Sanders put up the Medicare for All proposal in 2013 and got zero co-sponsors from Democrats.

Zero.

And now everybody's on that bandwagon.

Everybody we just named is on that bandwagon, except as far as I know, Biden.

Wow.

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Just a quick mention of the jobs situation.

December was really good.

312,000 new jobs.

That's a pretty good number.

Yeah.

And a record almost 157 157 million working, plus

the lowest Hispanic unemployment ever in American history.

That's great.

Yes.

Great news.

The unemployment rate did tick up a little bit to 3.9, which is not really seen as a bad sign considering it's more people getting into the workforce right now.

In fact, the markets are saying how much they like it.

The Dow currently up 660 points, but this isn't every day right now.

It's up 600.

It's down.

It's down 800.

It's down, up 800.

It's up 1,200.

This is a really volatile time if you're in the market.

Very.

And, you know,

over time, this stuff usually smooths itself out, but it can make you nervous.

You got to be.

Oh, I'm very nervous right now about it.

Very nervous.

But, you know, what do you do?

If you pull out now, you've lost money.

If you let it ride, you take the chance that you might lose more, but it might come back too.

And it, because it has virtually every time it's slumped in the last few years.

I mean, you know, there's the typical approach here is if you need the money soon, you probably should already be in a low-risk position when it comes to the market.

So if you're nearing retirement, you might need to access that money.

And if you need the money long in the future, just stick it out.

I mean, that's the typical approach.

Unless you believe, as Glenn does, that it's going to be catastrophic.

Yep.

Then I don't know what to tell you.

Has Glenn ever thought something wasn't going to be catastrophic?

Has that ever occurred?

I don't think so.

You know, other than a donut?

I don't think so.

Has there ever,

I mean, occasionally you look at a donut and and you say, this one's going to be good.

Outside of that, I don't remember much of that.

There's not a lot.

I mean, look, he's had this opinion for a long time because he's looking at it structurally.

And obviously, he was completely right on this in 2007.

And people say, well, he called the 2008 collapse, which is true.

However, he called it way beforehand.

He called it before it really even started looking down.

07 or 06?

I would say it was 07 when I first, early 07.

So like a year in advance.

Maybe, I mean, 06, maybe he saw part of it.

But I remember when that was going on, we had a guest on, I think it was, God, was at the CNN show at the time, yes.

The CNN show, and a guy came on the air, and he was saying the Dow was going to go to 36,000.

Oh, geez.

And at that point, I don't remember what it was, 14.

And he's like, it's going to go to 36,000.

And Glenn's like, you're nuts.

And they fought it out in the air and they had like a good spirited argument.

And then, you know, I don't know, a year later, it was 6,500.

That's the DAO was.

I mean, and still, I mean, to this day, even at the peak in October, it was 25,000.

It never got to 36,000.

It also shows what time period it was to say, I think Glenn was on CNN at that time.

You can't even imagine that now.

Glenn Beck on CNN.

Yeah, I mean, it was headline news, but still.

True, but still in that building.

We were in the same building with all the people that you recognize from CNN, walking, see them in the hallways, in the elevator every day.

It was a weird time.

I will say, CNN's got a sweet hook up there.

That's a nice place to work.

You know, you don't, like, first of all, they're fantastic with things like vacations.

And I remember the people who were there, like, the benefits were really nice.

But in the building, they've got this unbelievable cafeteria where, like, you go up and it's like, all the food's pretty cheap, and it's like really good, and you can just walk in whenever you want and get food.

I mean, it was a nice place to work.

When we left CNN to go to Fox, a lot of people, you know, a lot of people on the staff really, you know, liked Glenn.

And Glenn had a great relationship with the staff over at CNN that worked for Glenn.

But most of them didn't come to Fox mainly because the reputation Fox has in the industry is like it's a tough place to work.

I don't know.

Maybe that's changed since we were there.

And it was never like that for us because Glenn kind of had special cutouts.

We did the whole show basically from a whole nother office and we would just walk over and do the show.

But, you know, it's a tough place to work.

It's long hours.

The vacation's not as nice.

There's nothing, the desks aren't as nice.

The offices aren't nice.

Like, you know,

it was a much more difficult place.

So people who are just generally working in the news industry in New York and can choose CNN or Fox, most of the the time will pick CNN because it's a much more cushy job.

It's a better place to sit.

And you would never suspect that.

Yeah, you would never suspect from the outside.

Yeah.

I mean, they treat it more, you know, you get all the perks over at CNN, at least back in that time.

Now, they've had cutbacks and stuff since.

I don't know how much of that has changed.

Yeah, that was a different time period.

Yeah, for everybody in media.

I mean, everybody's had cutbacks in media.

I mean, it's, you know, it's a lot of competition these days.

So everything's hard for everybody, I guess, at this point.

And maybe that's still the case.

But, you know, that's it was an interesting dynamic to see firsthand.

Things are getting a little bit tough in the movie industry right now for environmentalists.

I love this.

They're actually becoming the movie villains now.

Often.

Which is fun to see.

And not in like some conservative piece, like you know, the sequel to one of Glenn's fiction books, right?

Like it's not that.

No, it's mainstream, big-budget Hollywood movies.

Yeah, this is a great, and this is in the Washington Post today.

Sonny Bunch wrote this up.

But listen to this.

Listen to some of these examples.

And I haven't, some of these, Pat, you're going to have have to help me with.

Because

the villain in Avengers Affinity War, did you see that?

I did.

He is kind of an environmentalist, right?

What's his name?

Thanos?

Is that Thanos?

He was.

This is the write-up.

Again, the Washington Post.

Thanos, the villain of the $2 billion grossing mega-hit Avengers Infinity War.

Wow, that made $2 billion.

That was amazing.

Was basically an omni-powered Paul Ehrlich.

Whereas the comic book version of Thanos sought to kill half half of the universe in order to prove his love for

death, the film version was driven insane by his home planet's self-immolation after a series of resource wars.

Determined to eliminate suffering over food and land, over clean air and water, Thanos used the Infinity Gauntlet not to create abundance of each, but to kill half of all living things.

Again,

these aren't spoiler alert territories, right?

No, it's not because everybody knows, I think, now, right, by now.

This is a big meme on the internet.

A lot of the people die at the end.

This is always happening in Super.

I will say Aquaman is still in the world where they're probably all spoiler alerts, so let me be careful with this one.

But you saw this too, right?

You saw Aquaman?

Aquaman.

Yeah.

You like it?

Yeah, it was okay.

It was okay.

It was not bad.

So King Orm is one of the characters.

Orm hopes to unite the underwater clans of Atlantis in order to create an unstoppable army that will destroy life on the planet's land masses.

But Orm is no madman.

His genocidal war was not the result of personal trauma or ideological insanity.

It is rather a version of self-defense.

The surface dwellers dump their trash into the water, strangling sea life.

The surface dwellers spew their smoke into the skies, choking the ocean with particulates.

The surface dwellers hunt to extinction, the ocean's animals, depriving the Atlanteans of conveyances.

Humanity must die so Atlantis might live.

Again, that's just an environmental argument.

Right?

Yeah.

I mean, we saw this from Bernie Sanders.

Radical environmentalism.

Yeah.

What's this difference between either one of these arguments, from Thanos or King Orm?

What's the difference from Bernie Sanders saying we must treat global warming as it is a massive military attack and act accordingly?

Same thing.

It's the same argument.

Yeah, it is.

This is what they're saying.

They're saying this is their environmental problems are killing Atlantis, so we must respond by killing them all.

And this one I did see, which is, when it came out, I thought was one of the most stunning things I've ever witnessed.

coming out of Hollywood, which was Kingsman, the Secret Service.

Now, this would not be one you saw, I don't think.

No, I didn't see it.

One of the most violent movies I've ever seen in my entire life.

Oh, really?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, Kingsman movies are super violent.

I like them.

I like the first one.

They're weird and they're quirky.

And they're incredibly violent and disturbing at times.

But, like, it's kind of like James Bond, but

someone took some level of drugs as they were writing a James Bond script.

It's like that sort of storyline.

But Kingsman the Secret Service is a few years ago.

Kingsman featured as a villain a tech guru named Valentine, played by Samuel L.

Jackson.

The billionaire was so disgusted by humanity's excesses and so riled by the excretions of the masses that he engineered a plot to kill all of us in the most horribly violent manner possible.

He invented a device that would cause man to turn against man with bare hands and tear each other apart.

In so doing, the planet would be cleansed of humanity's foul stench.

Once free of the riffraff, wealthy swells and fabulous celebrities would reclaim the planet for themselves and rebuild the world in their image.

Clean, pristine, free of the gauche hordes who have rendered our air travel unbearable and our beaches crowded messes.

That is, that's the movie, which it's insane.

I mean, like, this is a guy basically saying global warming's so bad we have to kill everyone.

I mean, absolutely could be in a Glenn Beck novel, right?

Like, it's like,

you know, that was the storyline to that one.

And it's interesting because there is,

I don't think it's, I'm surprised by it.

I'm surprised Hollywood has embraced this and basically made in big budget movie after big budget movie, environmentalists the villains, but they're convenient villains.

They make sense as villains because taking their claims to their logical ends,

they have no choice but to kill everybody on earth, right?

Like we know the average environmentalist that you know has no interest in killing someone.

But like if you want to get to super villain area, take their ideological arguments, which is everyone's going to die because of X, Y, and Z.

I better kill half of them to save the other half.

Right.

That starts to make sense when you go down these environmental roads, and it's why people have said, you know, Paul Ehrlich is one of them.

You know, the prince in

the UK is one of them.

You know, people from environmentalist sites and activist groups have said, you know, human beings are the virus here.

The reason we're having these problems is because of human beings.

If we would just remove human beings, things would be better.

It's literally how they look at things.

So it's not surprising that they're going down this road.

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It seems to me that, you know, we were just talking about these environmentalist villains here in the Glenbag program with Patton Stew.

And

why Hollywood is using environmentalism, these radical environmentalists, to be the bad guy.

And it happened in Avengers Infinity War.

It's the case in Aquaman.

And it seems to me, I haven't seen it in a while, but Mission Impossible Fallout, the main villain in that, Solomon Lane, his deal is he wants to kill, I think it was 30% of the world's population so that

the world order can reset and be better to the planet and each other.

It's the same kind of

environmentalist message, it seems to me.

They're doing this in every, maybe it's so they can avoid Muslim terrorists, jiadists.

Maybe that's part of it, too.

Yeah, although I'm actually surprised that would be their priority to defend.

I mean, because they did, obviously, there's been a lot of movies over the years that have touched on that area, but they are very sensitive about it, obviously.

But when that sensitivity really started rearing its head, then they sort of seems like they went to French guys.

We'll do French guys because they're safe to make into villains.

And then it turned into maybe Serbians because everybody hates the Serbians because the Serbians were evil.

But now they found somebody new that, so they can make them Americans, I guess.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's an interesting turn of events.

I would not have seen that one coming.

But it is interesting.

It's a great, it's an easy villain, right?

It's someone that's that ideologically

crazy about one particular cause can justify anything.

I mean, if your legitimate argument is, if you take Al Gore seriously and you say, what he believes is

20 feet of water is going to come crashing over our shores and kill millions and millions and millions of people, what wouldn't you do to stop that?

Right?

Now, for him, he won't even retrofit his house with the solar panels.

Which shows what a pathetic hypocrite he is.

He won't even cancel flights.

Right.

Right.

Like, I mean, and so none of these people you can take seriously.

He won't commit to not flying privately even.

Yeah.

Won't even do that.

And

that was the case in the Kingsman movie, the billionaire tech guy who went up trying to kill everybody on the planet.

His argument was, we always talk about global warming, but we never do anything about it.

We need someone who's going to do something about it.

I'm willing to actually make the sacrifice.

You want a mass murderer with some ethics.

You really do.

You do.

And so it's good that they provided us one.

Well, you know, in real life, Bill Gates is a big population control guy.

Now, he's not looking to kill people.

I don't think he wants to kill people, but he certainly wants to stop them from being born.

Yeah.

He wants to lower the birth rate.

Yes.

And in particularly in impoverished areas.

And some of the stuff he wants to do is really positive.

Some of it is questionable.

But

again,

with unlimited resources and that ideology taken to its logical ends,

you know, you could get there.

Like, people start thinking that way.

And how do we know Bill Gates isn't a diabolical genius who's plotting to

set off nuclear weapons?

Too boring.

Too boring to do that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You need to have someone interesting.

That's probably Bill Gates.

It's hard to even get through one of his speeches about it.

So

I saw Bird Box last night.

Did you see that?

Oh, this is the one that like 45 million people, according to Netflix, have seen.

Yeah.

45 million accounts.

45 million accounts.

So, I mean, I watched it.

What is that, 100 million people, maybe?

Three people were watching it with us.

There was two other people watching it with us last night.

So, I mean, this is a.

It was a.

Was it worth it?

Yeah, it's good.

I don't care.

Of course, it's included.

I mean, it's just free on Netflix.

It's free on Netflix.

So if you're already on Netflix, I mean, why not give it a shot?

I definitely put it in the category of A Quiet Place that came out last year.

If you remember, I want to say,

I hate to do this to him because he's done other things, but Jim from the Office is a star.

I just love him too much in that role.

I love that show too much.

He's always going to be Jim from the Office.

I'm sorry.

And I think he's used to it.

But he's had it, and he's in the Jack Ryan thing on Amazon.

Yeah, and he was in 13, was it 13 hours?

Yep, which was really good.

Really good.

And A Quiet Place, I really liked, and I really liked this too.

I thought they were both really good.

But they're very similar movies.

If you've seen one, you kind of go down the same road.

It's a very similar type of story.

I think it was Quiet Place.

You can't make any noise.

And in Bird Box, you can't look at anything.

Kind of the concept.

So

it's an interesting concept to try to pull out.

Sandra Bullock's in it.

Yeah.

Sandra Bullock and

John Malcovich and a few other stars.

Yeah.

It was well done.

I mean, and it's the fact that, like, now you're at a point where

the top way

to make a movie big is to put it on Netflix.

If you want people to see it, you put it on Netflix.

They're actually now talking about a whole change in the way movies come to you and all of that.

It's already happening.

And it's already happening.

We're making that transition.

Because they used to have to spend $20 million to market a movie.

Now they put it on the Netflix home screen and pay $0 to market a movie.

I mean, that is a big deal.

And then way more people have seen it.

And I don't know anybody who, I mean, I was flipping through that thing last night.

Who's going to give up that subscription?

It's too good.

Yeah,

it's $12 a month and it's just unlimited entertainment.

Unlimited.

You're getting big budget Hollywood movies now.

New ones.

Yeah.

It really is.

They're Included in the price.

Yeah.

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Now, there's a big effort

by the Democrats to eliminate the Electoral College.

And this is

not a surprise to me.

I know, and not a surprise to you, Pat.

I wrote a piece after the 2016 election, like, you know, the things I learned or observations.

And I wrote,

if the popular vote estimates hold, which we know that they did wind up doing, this will be the second time in five elections Democrats have won the popular vote and lost the presidency.

And that just irritates them so much.

They are going to come after the Electoral College.

And a lot of people, I think this is true on both sides, will listen to them.

The argument for it is nuanced, and it takes using your brain a little bit, and that's not exactly the American strong point.

And it takes understanding the founders' intent and why they did what they did.

Yeah.

And I will say, one of the big problems with it, and the reason why it's a legitimate threat, is the biggest,

the only, as far as I know, Republican who supports getting rid of the Electoral College is Donald Trump.

He has advocated for a national popular vote many times and still believes that.

That's not one of those things that, you know, he believed in 2000 and now, you know, he's even after he benefited from it.

Even after he benefited from it.

Wow.

And his point, which is completely true, is if it was a national popular vote, I would have chased the national popular vote and won in another way.

Right.

You know, whether that's whether he would have won or not, I don't know.

But I mean, again, you go to population centers, right?

You go to population centers and try to get a bunch of people rather than trying to win, you know,

Michigan or Wisconsin performance.

And that's one of the things.

That's what will happen.

If you go to a popular vote, you'll only have candidates going to

California.

Yeah.

The Democrats will never leave California.

Why would you?

Yeah.

Why would you?

You don't need Vermont.

You don't need Iowa.

You don't have to go to Montana.

You don't have to pay attention to Utah or Indiana.

And this is the reason the founders did what they did.

Yeah.

How much time do we have left before breaking?

Okay, so we don't have time to play it here.

We do have, if you want to go on it today, if you hear people arguing about this, there's a new Prager University out about the Electoral College.

Explains it really well.

Explains it well.

Explains how we're not a democracy.

We're a constitutional republic, by the way.

Such a great point.

Yeah, and that's important.

So if you want to go check that out, maybe we'll tweet it out here coming up because that's something that's important.

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We're joined by Jason Putrell.

What's on your mind today?

I wanted to talk about this yesterday.

I'm probably going to talk about it a little bit more on the news and why a little bit later.

Of course, I'll have my required sport coat on

for when that happens.

But this whole thing with this American being arrested in Russia has kind of got me

a little bit fascinated.

And especially because I saw a lot of people commenting on mainstream news about how they thought it was leveraged to maybe get Maria Boutina

back as their spy.

You guys remember that story?

She was like the relatively hot spy.

Is that what it's like?

No, that was like Anna Chapman, like way back in the day.

This was

the gun activist lady.

Right, right, right.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

And supposedly she was, I think she actually, yeah, she did.

She actually, you know, admitted to conspiracy, not spying, which was interesting, but she admitted and pled guilty to conspiracy.

And the thing with her was, and I'll get back to Paul Whelan, the American that was just arrested in Moscow.

The thing with her was, is that she was so obviously not a Russian spy trained in Russian tradecraft.

She was taking, do you remember that she was she was taking selfies in front of the White House and posting it?

Didn't she actually ask Trump a question at a rally?

She did.

Yeah.

I mean, all the things that you would think a spy want to draw attention to yourself.

She's doing them all.

Right, exactly.

She's like saying, here I am.

This is what I'm doing.

So basically, what it boils down to is she was working for this guy that was the head of the Russian central bank.

And he's also kind of like a pro-gun guy.

Which is a very strange thing over there in Russia.

But he's also a friend of Putin, or I guess.

So he's connected to Putin.

Everyone's connected to Putin in some way.

But they drew those connections.

They're like, oh my gosh, Russian spy.

She's not a Russian spy.

I think she was maybe doing corporate espionage or something something like that for her boss, this other guy.

Either way, she was doing some things she shouldn't have been doing.

But this Paul Whelan guy is very, very similar.

So Paul Whelan was

a former Marine.

I think he actually got a bad conduct discharge.

He worked for corporate security for some, I don't know, like an auto manufacturer or something like that.

And he's also, surprise, surprise, very, very active on social media.

There's this Russian social media thing, like it's competitive Facebook.

He's got an account there, a bunch of Russian friends.

He's always posting selfies like around Moscow.

Very, very, very similar case.

He was picked up as he was going to a friend's wedding in Russia.

And the Russians are obviously claiming that he's a spy.

He's some kind of CIA spy or something like that, which is hogwash, completely ridiculous.

First off, he wouldn't be able to pass a security clearance to get to be an American spy if he got a bad conduct discharge.

Spy work doesn't include taking selfies and posting them on social media.

I mean,

unless Tradecraft has changed a lot since, you know, I'm no longer a part of the community.

That's not involved.

I will say, though, is there a sub-argument to say the alibi?

That is the normal activity of every human being on Earth, basically, is posting dopey selfies of yourself everywhere you go.

Right.

Is there a point that if you're not doing it, you start to stand out?

At some point, it becomes...

If you don't participate, you are now the weird one.

Yeah.

Maybe I could defend him if he was posting cat videos or cat memes or something like that, and I could give that a pass.

Cat memes have always been allowed in trade craft as far as I understand.

Since the dawn of time.

So the bottom line is this guy's not a spy, but he very, very mimics Maria Boutina a lot.

Now, I think where the mainstream news or the media is kind of diverging here is

they want so desperately for her to be a Putin-sent ordered spy.

And it's all part of Russian collusion in some way and implicate the GOP in some way.

And that's just not the case.

They're going in that direction.

But I do see how these cases are very, very similar.

I think that we have entered into a stage of kind of like tick-for-tack.

You know, like you arrest one of our guys, I'll arrest one of your guys.

You want leverage for this?

Fine, we'll take leverage for that.

That's kind of how these games work.

But now

we've lost the ability to think through these things rationally, and we got to say, oh, this is because these people are colluding with this government.

We've lost all ability to do that.

Of course.

And it's the same in China, really.

China's doing this.

The State Department just did their, you know, just released a statement saying that they're warning people traveling to China.

They said that you could be picked up on

erroneous crimes.

They happened to, what, two, three Canadians recently over there.

Again, tick-for-tack stuff.

We arrested one of their businessmen.

Now they're arresting some of Canada's businessmen.

It's going to start happening to us.

So it's a very, very dangerous time.

Like, I had a couple of friends that were going to take a protective detail in Russia, and I was like, no, do not.

This guy was a, this Paul Whelan was a former Marine and did security for a company.

These two guys are former special forces, and they also worked for a very high-end contracting, military contracting company.

They would pick them up like that.

So I'm like, guys, no.

But if you are thinking, I've been to Russia twice in the past five, six years.

I would not go back at all.

I wouldn't go to China right now.

It's just that dangerous.

Really?

That's interesting.

It's funny to watch this.

And one of the things that's been bizarre about the Donald Trump era is

because Donald Trump says something is good or bad, the media must take the opposite position on it.

And it's funny to see, I mean, you watch the mainstream media right now.

Not many Republicans take the same position.

I think that's true.

And so it's been interesting to watch.

So many Republicans now think Russia's fine.

Yeah.

They're our friend.

They're great.

But watch the mainstream media coverage of Russia like all the time.

We had to pull out Ivan Drago to convince them that they were bad back in the day.

Yeah.

Like,

you know, this is,

Russia was covered in the mainstream media in a complete, like, they made, all they tried to do was disprove what Ronald Reagan was saying about them, that they were not, you know, they're really the evil empire.

They're not really that way.

Communism is not all that bad.

Come on.

And now they're all, they're all, you watch the mainstream media coverage.

They are are serious they take russia seriously man they really do all of a sudden they take russia seriously free trade man have you ever seen the mainstream media be more free trade than they are today because they get to criticize trump on the tariff so now all of a sudden this thing that ronald reagan fought for that the conservative movement you looked at as a massive priority for its entire existence, basically.

Now, you turn on CNN and they're saying all these wonderful things about trade.

I mean, it's really incredible to watch.

It is.

I mean,

they will do anything.

The border wall, we used this example yesterday.

It seems impossible to believe, but in 2010, the border wall was a 50-50 issue among Democrats.

Not because they wanted more security, if they wanted to build a physical wall to stop illegal immigrants coming in from Mexico, this was a split issue among Democrats.

Now it's 89 to 8 opposed.

I mean, that is a way of

assigning your decision-making process to somebody else.

You're sitting back and you're like, oh, well, I don't know.

What does Trump think about it?

Oh, he likes it.

I hate it.

That's crazy.

That's letting Trump run your life.

The same thing with the media.

If you say the media praises something and you hate it just because the media hates it, that's letting them run your life.

Oh, do you remember how much they loved the Obama line?

The 80s called when they want their policy back.

Oh, my gosh.

I mean, you'd never hear them mock that now.

No, not anymore.

That's a great point.

I mean, they took, they said, and the reason for that was they're basically our allies.

We have Islamic extremists who are our real enemies, which of course was another example, right?

Because Barack Obama was saying they are our enemies, not Russia.

So the media aligns with that.

But back when Bush was saying it's Islamic extremism, they gave every excuse to say it wasn't.

I mean, it really, that is, you are assigning your life to someone else to control.

You are just a puppet.

You're just doing the reverse of something instead of doing the exact same thing they're requesting.

It's embarrassing.

It really is.

Actually, the first border, big border push was Operation Gatekeeper, and that was back in the 90s

under Bill Clinton.

That was the first one.

That was a big border wall that was built down in the San Diego era.

And you could go back to Roosevelt.

I mean, you could go back.

There's been people who wanted to control the border.

I mean, this was a massive issue for Democrats because of the unions back in the day.

The unions did not like all the cheap labor coming in.

They were not fans of that.

This is before they were like, oh, I want the voters that are going to come in and hopefully become citizens one day.

They wanted to stop people crossing the border to lower wages and take jobs from union people because they could undercut the wages so easily.

And that was a big priority for Democrats for a long freaking time.

And unions.

And even unions now have backed off from that because, you know, the political reality is you have to say illegal immigration, there's no big problem with it if you're a Democrat.

That's an amazing way.

These things do not happen because of ideology.

They don't happen because of logic.

They happen because of political pressures and

nonsense.

Yeah, power, nonsense.

Yep.

They're just looking to increase their power base.

And that's what they, I think that's what they base all of their

border thought process on now.

Is this going to result in more votes for me down the road?

They don't care about security for the country at all.

They don't even worry about it.

How long do you think, I don't know if you guys talked about this earlier, but how long do you think this shutdown is going?

Do you think that, who do you think will cave on this?

Do you think Trump caves first?

Do you think the Democrats will?

I laid this out a little bit earlier,

but my belief is there's no advantage for the Democrats to cave on it.

It's Trump's shutdown.

He said it was his shutdown.

He said, I'll take all the heat for it.

And they look at this as the uglier this gets, the more we can put on Trump.

And so they may cave for something big.

You know, they're already saying

they're saying DACA now is back on the table to give them DACA, which is a huge huge thing.

It's a priority for

20 years to try to get these quote-unquote dreamers.

It's a great strategy, though, for Democrats, especially in 2020.

Because if their big issue was the people that flipped from Hillary to Trump,

and even some people are just kind of on the fence about it.

Maybe they don't like his rhetoric.

They agree with his policies, but his rhetoric is enough to make them vote for somebody else.

But if the wall is the biggest issue,

I mean, it was.

If the immigration situation happened, I don't think that he's even president today.

I really don't.

I mean,

that was his crowning achievement, his main torchbearing issue in the very beginning.

So, how much of his base is going to vacate if he loses this?

I would say a lot, right?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think we thought that in the beginning, that, yeah, if he changes on immigration, because that was the big issue.

I think that's changed now.

I don't know that there's any issue.

I don't know if there is anything.

We did a show.

Remember this, Pat?

We did a show calls from people who are big Trump supporters saying, what's the one thing that will change your mind?

And overwhelmingly, it was the wall.

The only, only thing that would change our mind is the wall.

And now it's gone from a full border wall down to 1,000 miles of border wall, down to 500 miles of border wall, down to it's not really a wall, it's a fence, down to it's some fence, some technology, and other things where

we're making some repairs and making repairs.

We're paying for it with a new trade deal that's not even enforced.

And Lindsey Graham went as far as to call it a metaphor.

Not really an actual physical metaphor.

So, I mean, I don't know.

I think, you know,

if he were to, I mean, he did get heat, though, for abandoning this.

Let's say

heat.

He came on Fox News, which was great.

Fox News, Rush Limbaugh.

Like, a lot of his big supporters were like, you know, look, what are you doing here?

I mean, and let's not sell that lightly.

He was backing down from the wall.

Sarah Sanders said, look, we'd rather have the government open than

risk this.

So he backed down, and then everybody en masse just went after him like crazy.

He flip-flopped back over.

So he's got to be scared about that.

His pollers are definitely scared about that because I'm sure they're the ones that convinced him to, you know, reverse course.

Yeah.

And I think, I do think, though, the Democrats think, I'm not saying they're right because they miss on this stuff all the time, but I think they think they're in a good position here because, one, Trump has already said it's his shutdown and it's about the wall.

Two, if it gets uglier, they're going to be able to heap more blame on him.

And they can try to get either a giant thing that they want like a DACA or they can just wait it out and wait for him to fold.

Because, you know, the other thing about the border is it's very, it's popular among talk radio listeners.

It's popular among Republicans in general.

It polls at 76 to 19 among Republicans, right?

So it's a very popular proposal.

Currently, though, it's 89 to 8 among Democrats against it.

And it's posed 62 to 34 among

independents.

So overall polling is 60 to 37 opposed to building a wall right now.

Wow.

Now, a lot of that's because Trump isn't a particularly popular president overall in the country.

Like, he's popular among his base, but that's about it.

So, part of that, as we talked about with the Democrats moving so far on that issue from 50-50 basically to 89 to 8, part of that's Trump-related.

But

it's not an issue that the majority of the country is particularly passionate about getting done.

They actually oppose it.

The funny thing about this is there's no fiscal conservatives left in the GOP, pretty much.

I mean, some are in the Freedom Caucus, I guess.

Yes, maybe there's a few.

They're not very loud, at least.

So, you actually, what's funny is you actually have some Republicans that are against this because they don't care about spending money.

And all the Democrats have never cared about spending billions.

This is $5 billion.

That's nothing to them.

You know, like, screw it.

You know, like $5 billion.

That's true.

Now they're acting like, oh my gosh, no, we can't set the budget.

I have fire like that.

$5 billion?

That's wasteful spending.

I was like, shut up.

He wouldn't say that on anything else that you would want to build.

Yeah.

Well, and that's a great point.

And what they're trying to do is use this, though, to pressure those vulnerable Republicans in the Senate.

Corey Gardner is the big example.

Now, first of all, Corey Gardner banned birth control.

And that must have been expensive.

It was very expensive to do.

But he's already come out and said, he did.

Yeah.

He's already come out and said, we've got to open the government.

We can't do this.

Just try the gas station?

Come on.

Let's have that memorized.

Yeah, that's so good.

That's a great ad.

But they're already pressuring people like that who are up for re-election soon in purplish states.

You know, it's going to be an interesting road.

Um, all right, Jason's going to join us on News and Why It Matters later on today.

It's Pat and Stew here for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

So, who's going to

Pat and Stew, by the way, for Glenn, who returns on Monday?

Who's going to cave on this border thing?

I can tell you that the Democrats think they're in a winning position, and here's evidence of it.

They are currently talking about giving DACA, the dreamers, making them legal, in exchange for $5 billion of border wall funding.

That's what Trump is requesting.

And the Democrats are saying no to that deal.

They're saying no to that deal.

One year ago, one year ago, the Democrats offered full border wall funding for that same program.

For DACA.

For DACA.

So

I mean, now it's down to, what, a quarter of the wall?

And the Democrats are the ones saying no to it.

That's how far this has come in the last year.

So they may be wrong, but they think they're in the winning position, which makes me think they're going to stick this out

as long as they can.

All right, Glenn's back on Monday.

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