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So, do you remember the hand-wringing?

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The doomsday scenarios forecasted by the left during the Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Circus?

He is going to end women's rights.

In fact, he might end up killing all women.

You remember the protesters that were dressed like women from the handmaid's tale?

The hysteria.

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The left was scared out of its collective mind that Brett Kavanaugh would somehow single-handedly overturn Roe v.

Wade and force women into the dark ages and bootleg abortions.

This monster was going to destroy destroy all women's rights.

And then a little something of interest to the pro-abortion crowd came down from the Supreme Court yesterday.

We begin there

right now.

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the abortion thing.

Yesterday, Supreme Court,

the court dealt a blow to conservatives.

Wait a minute, I thought Kavanaugh was the Antichrist.

Seems like we should have been the ones freaking out.

Now, there were several conservatives, us included, that said, wait a minute, this guy was not on the list.

Wait a minute.

This guy could be another Justice thomas uh uh or uh um not thomas but uh

no the other guy that could overturn roberts um

he could be another justice roberts and why is he added all of a sudden he wasn't on anybody's list they're freaking out we are all like oh we gotta have him now i well i'm not sure he i mean he teaches with jesuits i'm not sure he's a real conservative well the two part there's two parts to this.

One is you're right.

You know, the list that got Donald Trump elected did not have Brett Kavanaugh's name on it.

It was added after he was in office.

There are still 20 names on the original list that are not Supreme Court justices.

Why did the list need to be expanded?

I don't understand it.

There were real reasons why Kavanaugh was not on that first list, and the Obamacare decision he was involved in was a big part of that.

The second unrelated issue here is Brett Kavanaugh is absolutely a qualified justice, and the attacks against him were absolutely unfair.

Correct.

So, I mean, it was completely fine, I think,

for once he was nominated to say he is qualified, and it is the president's decision, and I understand all that, but he should not have been on the list.

There's 20 people still on the original list that were never named to be nominated as a Supreme Court justice.

There was no reason to go off that list.

The list is the big reason why Donald Trump was elected.

We had hundreds of calls over the election of people saying, Look, I, you know, I don't like X, Y, and Z about Donald Trump, but you know what?

That Supreme Court list makes me confident.

And we're going to have Supreme Court justices.

We have to get good ones.

And it's a logical argument.

But why the fact that no one paid any attention?

Because Gorsuch was on the first list, and he's been great.

And he was right in this case.

So here we go.

So

the conservatives were hoping to challenge the individual state funding of Planned Parenthood.

Six to three vote.

Court decided not to review the lower court decisions that blocked the states of Kansas and Louisiana from preventing Planned Parenthood from receiving Medicaid funding.

To accept the case, the court needed four justices to vote in favor.

Now, to be clear, Medicaid funding in question does not directly involve abortions.

Federal law already prohibits using Medicaid to fund abortions, but it's going to Planned Parenthood.

Predictably, the court's four progressive justices voted against hearing the appeals.

Let the money go to Planned Parenthood.

I think also, somewhat predictably, the court's chameleon conservative John Roberts voted with the progressives.

But wouldn't you know it?

The sixth vote against hearing the case came from Brett Kavanaugh.

In his dissent, Justice Thomas wrote that the cases in question were not about abortion rights.

He said, What explains the court's refusal to do its job here?

I suppose it has something to do with the fact that some

respondents in these cases are named Planned Parenthood.

Some tenuous connection to a politically fraught issue does not justify abdicating our judicial duty, end quote.

Justice Roberts, I'm sure, did this because he just wants everybody to get along.

He just wants to save the integrity of the Supreme Court.

While what?

Destroying it?

The point is not that Brett Kavanaugh is suddenly pro-abortion or a Planned Parenthood supporter.

It's that he's already showing himself to be the kind of justice some of us thought he would be.

Someone who, like John Roberts, might lean conservative sometimes, but won't always side with the usual conservative bloc, especially when it comes to things like life.

In other words, the left,

the left was positive, the sky was falling, that women are just going to be abused.

And this is the linchpin on

planned parenthood and abortion.

Yeah, the sky wasn't falling.

It appears it was an acorn.

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So,

hello, Stu.

How are you?

Pretty well, Glenn.

How are you?

Good.

I was thrilled to see how many people have been writing in and tweeting and Facebook posting,

how they're joining.

You know, it was Tyler Perry,

Chris Rock,

Kid Rock, and me,

that went out and we did our local

Walmart and took care of all of the layaways.

And it was such a cool thing.

And I still challenge people in my position to go out and do something amazing because it's really,

what's great is it's not only good for you, but

it's spreading.

I had so much mail yesterday from people who said, I went and did this with my family, and I just, we only had, you know, $50, or we had $100, or we had $25,

and it was so cool to do.

So

engage in that.

Now, there's also a couple of things that

I don't even know where to begin.

We have 13% of Americans will boycott Christmas spending.

13%.

Still.

Boycott Christmas spending?

Yeah, they say that they do not want to be a part of this whole commercialization.

So they're not going to spend any money for the holiday season.

13%.

That's pretty high.

Allow me to roll my eyes a little harder at that one because you know what?

First of all, it's not going to be 13%.

13% of people are not.

That's not true.

Secondly,

why do we vilify commercialism so much?

What's so bad about it?

What's so bad about having cool toys and fun parts?

It can't be the whole holiday.

And if it's the whole holiday, then you're right.

You're doing it wrong.

But it was a great part of my childhood.

I loved getting cool things for Christmas.

My kids like doing it too.

You know, there's nothing wrong with materialism.

It's like this weird, like, and I know this isn't the way you're thinking about it.

But I feel like a lot of conservatives have adopted what is essentially an anti-capitalism liberal argument, which is like, oh, well, we, you know,

buying things makes it nasty and dirty, and you're sullying

this season by getting involved in commercialism.

Commercialism is fine.

There's nothing wrong with capitalism and conservatism and commerce.

They're all pretty darn great.

And the fact is, if you let it become all about gifts, gifts, gifts, gifts, gifts, gifts, gifts, yeah, you're doing it wrong.

That's not the whole thing, but it is part of it, it, and that's okay.

So I agree with you.

I agree with you.

I didn't think you would.

Yeah, because I don't.

It is not about the gifts.

It's how you embrace that.

For instance,

I have grown to really not

like the month of December.

Because it has become about, I have to go do this.

We have to go do that.

we have to do this, we have to do this, did you get the cards out?

Everybody's expecting this.

Did you get the presents for the people that you really don't even know?

And

have you sent those out?

And don't forget

to do this and the parties and all of this crap.

That's not what this holiday is about.

We've made this the most stressful month ever.

Instead of just making this the coolest month ever, just go just be with people and help people and give people presents.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Right.

And I think you're arguing against being overscheduled, which I find.

And also just making it about stuff.

Right.

But like a card is not about stuff.

A card is an acknowledgement to someone else.

Hey, I'm thinking about you in this time of year.

Right.

Like that's, but that is a task.

It winds up being a task because you want to make sure you get it to everybody and it doesn't feel like it's supposed to.

That's supposed to be a nice gesture, right?

That's not about like, oh, here's something they're going to, they're getting some cool commercial gift.

Yes, you're buying the card and you could theoretically make the card, but that's all about a message, right, to someone that you supposedly love.

But how many times are you getting cards from people?

Like, for instance, I get a Christmas card.

Last few years, I've gotten a Christmas card from Vince Vaughn.

Vince Vaughn doesn't think of me in the holidays.

I'm not thinking of me.

You know what I mean?

I don't know how I got on his Christmas card list, but I got onto his Christmas card list and I get a Christmas card from him.

First of all, that's pretty cool.

No, it's cool.

It is cool, but it's like he's not thinking about me.

He's like, you know, you know, pal, it's been another year.

No, that, and that's what I mean.

It becomes a task.

Correct.

My, uh, my wife is a classic, um, she loves Christmas and she's a classic overscheduler, I would say, in Christmas.

Like, so she signs up for every Christmas tradition, and she signs up for every, you know, the kids are in every, you know, little Christmas thing.

And then every year we get here and she's like, oh, next year we're not doing X, Y, and Z because it's too much.

And it's true.

We run around like crazy.

Though I do love those things.

I do like going to those little traditional events.

And I like, you know, a lot of it's just like going to see people and doing things that you wouldn't normally do the rest of the year.

And, you know, we have two little kids, so they're in like 9,475 Christmas specials that we go to.

And then there's multiple showings of those, so we're about 15,000, 20,000 of those.

But I mean, again, like you don't trade those things like you want to go do them.

I feel like, I don't know, I'm kind of glad that Cheyenne's not in ballet this year.

I don't have to sit through the damn nutcracker twice.

I just, I think

because it gets stressful, because you're just adding it on to work, right?

And at times it feels like a job.

Like I was on vacation last week, and I feel like I was running around more than any normal work week.

You're running around to events and picking kids up, and you're shuttling to the other thing, and then you got to make sure you get there on time.

Because if you're late, you know,

you'll miss it, and then you just feel like you've just adopted a new full-time job for the month.

But that's not capitalism's fault.

That is not capitalism's fault.

Commercialism is a part of Christmas, and I really don't think it's a bad part of Christmas.

I think it's great.

I like going and doing the shopping and giving people gifts that they don't, you know, that you got to come up with and pick out, especially with your kids, like the stuff that you're able to get them.

I mean, yeah,

no, it can't be your only priority, I think, is a better way of stating it.

I tell this story, I've told this story before, so I apologize, but there was one year that we hit it, the first year that we really hit it.

And I grew up in a family that, I mean, I got one present one year, and, you know, we struggled as a family, and I always wanted to do Christmas for my kids big.

Oh, yeah.

And so so I did.

We hit it big one year.

I can't remember this.

I remember this year.

Yeah.

The, the presents, I mean, I really, honest to God, I went out and I bought everything I've ever wanted to get my kids and my wife for Christmas.

I mean, everything.

The presents, the presents were like.

You couldn't even see the tree, basically.

You couldn't see the tree.

You really couldn't see half of the tree.

And

it was the most empty and hollow Christmas we've ever had.

None of us recall that as a good Christmas.

And we got everything we wanted.

Yeah.

It's not about that.

It's a priority setting issue.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean, you have to have the more important things, or it's not, you're not doing it right.

But the fact that you get the little, it's like, you know, someone who is in shape might tell you,

you know, eating nonstop ice cream buffets is not the proper diet.

Shut up.

But a little ice cream at the end of a meal

can be great.

Yeah, it's balance in everything.

That's all it is.

It's just balance.

We swing from one side to the other, and we swing so far.

The pendulum when it's in the middle is usually the right thing.

You know, an all-ice cream diet is not good.

Ice cream occasionally is good.

You know,

let's just say

a lifestyle where you've never worked out a day in your life, in the end, is not good.

This was a weird, I don't know.

I'm still working on that and convincing myself, and I can't really pull it off.

A little heroin.

A little is okay, but you're dying

all the time.

I mean, it just shakes up your holiday season.

He's exactly right.

So last night we finished the tree.

If you were listening yesterday,

I was abandoned at the tree, okay, on Sunday

because

I was decorating it the way my mother decorated.

You know, you kind of, you are just who you grew up as, and you don't really realize it.

And pretty soon I found myself as the only one decorating the tree.

And I was like, hey,

what happened?

How come is it me?

And my wife from the kitchen said, yep, it's you.

And it was because I'm really OCD.

I'm just so OCD on things

and the tree.

And so I was doing it like my mother used to, which was, you know, okay, kids, you put the big things to block the hollow parts of the tree and, you know, blah, blah, blah,

planning process.

Planning.

And it was not fun.

And so last night we decorated the tree and I

let it go.

And it was, it was, it was, it was fun.

It was fun.

It was, I actually did enjoy it.

It was very difficult once I sat down because I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't stop.

And then I realized what I think it is.

We have a fake tree.

And fake trees, because

we have, when we got a, when we spent our Christmas up at the ranch in the mountains, we get a real tree.

In Texas, you don't want a real tree.

You don't want a tree.

First of all, you have to mortgage your house to get a real tree.

And

second of all,

it's like a Charlie Brown Christmas tree.

All the needles just fall off

the minute the clock strikes 12, all the needles fall off.

They've been dead for so long.

Anyway,

so we have a real tree when we celebrate Christmas up at the up at the ranch because we could just go out and cut one.

I'm not like that at the ranch.

I'm not like that at the ranch because the tree is imperfect.

The tree is just like, I sat down on the couch and I looked at this damn tree and I thought, how did I ever like this tree?

It's like a perfect cone.

And I realized

that's not what a Christmas tree is supposed to look like.

It is supposed to just be like, you know, the handmade stuff and the stuff, and it's just kind of imperfect.

I mean, so much of it is tradition, right?

Did you grow up with all real trees?

I didn't.

You had fake trees?

We had fake trees.

Really?

Fake trees.

That's surprising coming from you.

I know.

Because I love the fake trees, man.

They're so much easier.

They are.

That's where I got, but I don't know.

It just doesn't seem as authentic maybe i don't know no it's true you're trading convenience qr authenticity qr i'm not always opposed to that trade however

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coming up, the sound of music.

The sound of music is,

well,

has Nazis in it, and people are offended.

All right, so welcome to the program.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I'm Glenn Becks.

Stu is with us, and also we welcome Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed, a podcast that you can download wherever you download your podcast every day, and also listen to it live every morning on the Blaze Radio Network.

What time would that be?

Like, when would I tune in for that?

Don't have any idea.

I've never listened to it.

So,

Pat,

try this on for size.

And then

I want to hear what you have to talk about.

But I just,

what is the sound of music about?

It's about fleeing the Nazis.

About fleeing the Nazis.

Okay, so listen to this.

LaGuardia High School's most recent production of The Sound of Music was missing some notable and pertinent props.

Nazi paraphernalia.

The

Daily News has reported that all of the Nazi stuff sparked furor

among the students and the parents, and so the school opted to tweak the musical to cut the Nazi parts out.

So what is it?

About a singing family?

Yeah.

Right.

Singing fleeing family.

Yeah.

They're just running from something.

Maybe they don't know what.

Maybe Christmas commercial as well.

Oh my gosh.

That's probably it.

Christmas itself itself, because it's so oppressive.

I mean, what do you have left?

What do you have left?

Nothing.

And this is a historic tale.

How can you possibly be offended?

Yeah, it's a somewhat true story.

It's based on a true story.

Yeah, based on a true story.

Also, may I just point out that the Nazis are the bad guys and they lose.

I mean, how is this a bad thing?

How can you possibly be offended?

It's so weird.

It's almost like you're a Nazi.

I don't like this.

They escaped.

What is the problem?

It's all upside down.

Yeah, there is no recognition of truth at all anymore.

None.

That's exactly what

I've been talking about this morning, too, with this Stephan Curry thing.

You probably don't know who he is, but he's one of the best players in the world,

NBA superstar.

He was on a podcast the other day with a group of five other people, four or five others, and

it came up, the question came up, they were just talking about conspiracies and things that they believe.

And

somebody asked in the room, We ever been to the moon?

Everyone in the room said no, including Curry, who said, I don't think so either.

No, but were they joking?

No, they were not joking.

He was asked,

Are you serious?

He said, Yeah, he's serious.

I mean, here's

a successful college educated 30 year old man who makes 37 million dollars a year

and he doesn't believe we went to the moon the moon landing was fake so here is i invite him to go to nasa um in houston uh here is the here's the interesting thing um

Do you remember in 2006, I was on CNN and I said

the current number of people that believe we went to the moon is 8%.

I thought it was 6, but was it 6?

I believe we did go to the moon.

Didn't go to the moon.

6%.

Was 6%.

And I said, that number is going, and because I was talking about conspiracy theories and how, for instance, George Bush blew up the levees.

I don't even know if that was the right timeframe, but they were talking about, you know, the 9-11 conspiracy and everything else.

And I said, if we don't,

if the government and people involved don't state the facts and become very, very transparent, we are going to start to lose all of it.

And you will see in the next 10 years this number double.

Well, I think it's at 13%.

The last number I saw was at 13%.

I bet it's higher than that now.

I bet it is.

I bet it is.

There's a lot of people who don't believe it.

You know, if you want to suspend reason for a second and just think, okay, well, let's go with that theory.

What would have to happen in order for the moon landing to be faked?

You really would have had to kill every one of the astronauts, right?

Because you can't trust them for the next 50 years.

They're going to keep it to themselves.

Hundreds of people

in the production.

In the production.

Hundreds.

Cameramen, support people.

Set designers.

Set designers.

The idea people, the people at NASA.

They'd all have to go.

They'd all have to go.

Government officials who were in on it.

The president.

I mean, you're talking to hundreds, maybe thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people would have to be killed to keep that a secret.

Then the other thing you're also assuming is that the Soviet Union was in on it.

Okay, hang on just a second.

You also, you also have to say

that all of the people that watched the launches in person,

unless they're saying we just launched the empty rockets into space and then we picked it up on the

floor of a stage someplace.

Right.

Right.

I mean, it's just

crazy.

All these things are nuts.

But, you know, it's about the internet, right?

I mean, the internet now has plausible-looking documentaries and things that seem smart.

And, you know, this is how these conspiracy theories grow.

To your point here, Glenn, the poll I think we were referring to back in the day, it was a Gallup poll in 1999 was taken.

6% of Americans doubted the Apollo 11 moon landing happened.

Now,

this is amazing.

2009, a poll held by the United Kingdom's Engineering and Technology magazine found that 25% of those surveyed did not believe that men 25?

Now that's in the UK.

Okay.

But still.

That's unreal.

That is unreal.

I'm telling you, I'm telling you, if you had,

think of this, think of this.

Just write a fiction book with me here for just a second.

AI comes in, takes over the world.

The only thing that you can do to save the world, save

humanity, if you can get away with it, is to put a universal EMP so it fries every circuit.

But the getting there has been so traumatic.

And you also lose, if you did a global EMP, you will probably lose anywhere from 50 to 90% of the world's population in the first year.

In any industrialized nation, it'll be 90%.

So the traumatic experience would just be forever lasting.

You lose all of that information.

You lose all of the digital records of everything.

You lose all machinery because everything is.

There's not a plane that is even flying.

If you don't restart it right away,

you fall into a time of darkness that in 50 years, 50 years, maybe?

No one believes man could even fly.

Nobody believes in modern medicine.

Nobody believes in an x-ray machine.

Nobody believes in any of this stuff.

Those are all fairy tales, especially if somebody who was trying to control the collective and was an anti-capitalist took over, they would discredit everything and they would teach it in schools.

You are 50 years away

from all of this being denied.

Easily.

Easily.

And maybe less than that, because look,

all of that stuff still exists.

We have all the technology available to us and you've still got these kinds of inroads being made with the disbelief so let me ask you this

the um

uh the nsa said that they believe by 2020 deep fakes are going to start playing a significant role in our society meaning the the the next presidential campaign you're going to see actual video

that looks like donald trump or

some other candidate doing something wrong.

And

your eyes will not be able to tell you the truth.

Okay?

That's only going to get worse.

You start taking video and you make video so it looks real.

You can convince that we never went to the moon in a year,

in a year,

because there is nothing credible anymore.

The president is incredible.

Congress isn't

credible.

Academia is incredible.

The press isn't credible.

Nobody is credible anymore.

Nobody.

And no matter how hard you try to be credible,

you're not going to be credible.

I mean,

it really shows you've got to be very careful with your credibility.

But

tell me the institution

that people have faith in.

Yeah.

I mean, military.

Not even military.

It's probably the most solid in society.

Certainly elements that don't have faith in that.

Correct.

You know, there's police still do okay on these polls, but they're not, you know,

it's maybe your church.

But all of those things, all of those things are coming undone.

I mean, you just don't have a civilization with that.

It's why, you know, I just read another story.

The headline today on Brexit said,

Teresa May,

non-ending chaos for Britain.

Chaos.

Chaos.

We can't do anything to add to chaos.

We have to really concentrate on doing the things that bring people together that are real, tangible,

simple,

you know, just simple truths.

And unfortunately, we're going the opposite direction.

The opposite way.

When you look at what's going on in Europe, when you look at what's going on with Brexit and England and France,

now you're spreading to Belgium and the Netherlands and here.

Wouldn't you be infuriated if you were in Great Britain and you voted for Brexit and are playing with it like that?

Oh my gosh, I would be crazy.

I'm surprised it's not.

I mean, I'm surprised it doesn't look like Paris.

Oh, I am too.

It may if this falls through.

And if it falls through, it may, it may.

I would be, I would be beside.

Well, no, wait, hang on just a second.

Why aren't we out on the streets about the border wall?

Yeah.

Well, I mean, I've never believed the border wall.

Pat and I said we would eat our underwear if to beat 90% of the border wall.

Why aren't we out in the street because of Obamacare?

Repeal of Obamacare.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, look at how many times we have spoken clearly.

And did you see the Senate just proposed now that they can't pass it?

A $25 billion bill for the wall to build the wall in its entirety.

It's like, okay, why didn't you do that last year?

No, what do you mean by why they can't pass it?

Well, they can't pass it now with the House going to the Democrats.

There's no way.

And I think they know that, and that's why they've now.

But they should have.

But if you want any credibility, you have to pass it in the House and then get it to the Senate before the end of the year.

I know you won't.

They won't.

But

that's what you do.

We're done with these games of, oh, well, we did it.

No, you didn't.

Well, we need the majority in order to pass this kind of.

Yeah, you had that.

You had it.

It's not going to work on us.

You have no credibility.

They're trying to claim now, oh, we've repaired some of the existing wall.

Shut up.

That's pretty good.

Shut up.

But I mean, go to, you know, Brexit, though.

It wasn't like Obamacare repeal.

Obamacare repeal was a proposal that one party offered, right?

Yes.

This was something that passed.

The people voted for this.

This happened, right?

It's like if they.

It was direct democracy and it won.

And it won.

And now I do it.

And they're just like, yeah, I don't know if we're really going to do that.

You guys aren't that smart.

We don't think you really want it.

We're going to do something else.

That would be.

We know better than you do.

Yeah.

That won't be good for us.

So we're going to do something else.

That's really.

It's bad.

It's bad.

It is really, really bad.

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who has any credibility.

You know, with the stuff going back and forth with Trump, are you paying attention to that as much as you would have in the past, Stu?

I mean, I just feel like there's so many rumors and leaks.

I'm just going to wait for the freaking reports to come out and we'll judge it then.

Right.

You know, I mean, I really, especially when Michael Cohen's involved, I mean, he was completely, he had no credibility long before he started turning on Trump.

He's never in his life had any credibility.

So when he's making an accusation, I'm immediately dismissive of it.

I was dismissive of it back in the day when he was saying Trump had the greatest golf courses in the universe, and I'm dismissive of it now because he has zero credibility.

And the media all knew this until he turned against Trump, and now they all love him.

And I am dismissive of the media because it's always the worst thing ever.

I am dismissive of Donald Trump because I didn't have anything to do with paying those women off.

I didn't even know about it.

Now, of course I knew about it, but it wasn't illegal.

Come on, man.

They need some credibility.

So there's nobody with any credibility on this.

So I was interested to see Andy McCarthy's take on this, where he says that Trump is going to be indicted.

Now, Andrew McCarthy is

a big supporter of Trump.

And he says this is

the indictment of Cohen.

He said, speaks volumes.

And he said, I think he's going to be indicted for a felony.

He comes from the background of investigating, and he's seen a million of these indictments.

He's a federal, he's a

federal prosecutor.

Yeah, and was big on all the terrorism in New York.

Yeah, you know this guy.

And

he's saying a lot of it because of the way it's worded, the way they're structuring it, they're signaling what they're going to do.

And it's interesting.

It doesn't mean that Donald Trump did anything wrong or not.

It's just the fact that what they're actually,

the way they design the document says they're coming after him.

Right.

So Andrew McCarthy, I think, has some credibility credibility

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So I don't know about anybody else, and it's partly the holidays.

It's also partly because who has credibility on anything anymore?

This Trump

Mueller

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Cohen?

Who do you trust?

Mueller?

Trump?

What's really happening?

Well, there is one guy that I trust, Andy McCarthy.

He's a contributing editor of the National Review,

and he is a former federal prosecutor in New York.

And he came out, and he's a Trump supporter, and he said, just reading what they're putting out, and I worked in those offices, I wrote those kinds of things.

And I'm telling you, they're going to indict the president.

And it's a felony.

But it it also, there's more to this story.

And so we are going to talk to Andy McCarthy in a minute.

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All right, we have Andrew McCarthy on with us, contributing editor of the National Review.

Andy,

you are one of the only voices that have penetrated my world when it comes to

what's happening with the Trump investigation because you have credibility, and

I know that you're a Trump supporter, so you don't have an axe to grind.

And so when you say,

I think he's going to be indicted because this is the way this is being written,

it carried some weight and I wanted to talk to you about it.

How are you, Andrew?

I'm doing just great, Blen.

How are you?

I'm great.

I've been, and I don't know if other people feel this way, but I've been really confused with all that's going on because it's all leaks or speculation.

And,

you know, I'm just waiting for the thing to just when the shoes drop, then we'll talk about it.

But you are a federal, a former New York federal investiga, sorry, prosecutor.

And so you used to write

the things like you just read from Cohen's,

what do you call it?

What was it?

The sentencing memorandum.

The sentencing memorandum.

So you used to write it and those things.

And you say this is very telling.

Can you explain?

Sure.

I think, Glenn, you're right to be suspicious when you hear the leaked information because obviously the people who leak are telling you they're sort of mining the parts of the story they want you to hear and holding back other stuff.

Whereas when they do these court filings, this is a 40-page document that is customarily filed.

about a week or two in advance of the imposition of sentence by the court.

You get a full flavor of what what the government's theory about the case is and where they're going with the investigation.

And it seemed to me that this sentencing memo is more directed at President Trump than it is at Cohen.

Sentencing memos are interesting in terms of legal filings because they're not kind of

dry legal issue oriented submissions.

They're almost like jury arguments, except they're meant to persuade the sentencing judge.

So they tend to be more forceful and colorful and

sort of filled with their prosecution theory.

And here, this one reads in the part of it that deals with the campaign finance laws as a testimonial to the importance of those laws, to the integrity of the system,

and how they are meant to make sure that the rich and the powerful

don't usurp all of the power in the system, and designed to fight against public cynicism about money and politics.

I mean, it almost seemed to me like

it was drafted with the president in mind more than Cohen.

And then I look at the other attendant situations or attendant circumstances that you have here.

Number one, They didn't really need these campaign finance counts on Cohen.

His sentence is really driven by the bank fraud and the tax fraud counts.

These add

negligibly at most to his case, but they're obviously critical in connection with Trump.

At the guilty plea allocution, they gratuitously had him say that he was directed by Trump in connection with these payments.

That is not something that was necessary to the factual basis for Cohen's own plea.

And ordinarily, prosecutors in public proceedings do not go out of their way to implicate uncharged people in felonies.

So it seemed to me they were sort of reaching to do that.

And it doesn't, I don't see that they have any other purpose of doing that, except that they want to lock Cohen in on this version of events, and this is their chance of doing it.

And then the other thing I would point to is they have given immunity, I believe, to four different people in this campaign finance investigation.

Campaign finance is not a very serious felony in the greater scheme of things.

They've given immunity to two people connected to the National Inquirer, and I believe two people connected with

the Trump organization, which relates to the structuring of the reimbursement payment to Cohen.

I don't think they gave four people immunity to tighten up the case on Cohen that they didn't need.

So

the tea leaves.

Okay, so

what does that tell you they're going to do with Trump?

Well, it seems to me they're going to indict him.

One of the things, Glenn, that I should have said was that I think there's a lot of misunderstanding about what these two campaign finance counts allege.

Most people, I think, believe

that because Cohen had a $2,700 limit as a normal contributor, that these payments were way above that limit, and that's why he had to plead guilty.

But very interestingly, the first of the counts is not that Cohen made an illegal payment, it's that he caused a third party, namely the business entity that controls the National Inquirer,

to make a payment that was illegal for the national inquirer to make.

And the point here is

it's the theory is

even if a transaction would be legal as to you if you did it yourself

it is still illegal to cause a third party to do something that would be unlawful as to that third party.

And it seems to me that that answers directly what Trump's lawyers have been saying about this, which is that the President, because he was the candidate, did not have a limit on what he could spend on his own campaign.

Now I've always thought that was a kind of a flawed explanation because

there's two parts of the report into campaign finance.

One is the limits, but probably the more important one is reporting.

So even a candidate has to report what he spends.

But

for our narrow purpose here,

if Cohn is being directed by Trump and they have Cohn plead guilty to causing a third-party entity to make an illegal contribution, it seems obvious to me that Trump also has to be guilty of that.

So

it at least looks to me like that is

right.

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of the National Review is Andy McCarthy, and we're talking about

what

the Democrats, or I should say, what the prosecution in New York is planning on doing with Cohen and Donald Trump.

Andy, never for one moment in my entire life have I found Michael Cohen to be credible about anything he's ever said.

This goes long before he was T-turned on Trump, and now the media seems to find him very credible.

Is there more to this than just Cohen saying Trump told him to do these things?

Or is there, do they have additional evidence that makes you believe they know this really happened?

Stu, I think you're entirely right to be suspicious of anything this guy says, and the prosecutors know that.

I should point out that the guy who's running the investigation in the Southern District is Rob Kuzami, who is my partner or one of my two partners on the Blind Shea case.

You know, he's a whip-smart lawyer, and he's handled plenty of cases where you have people who are

not exactly upstanding members of the community who are our main witnesses.

And what you generally do with those cases is you look the jury in the eye at the beginning and say, you know, look, we're not going to trust this guy any more than you should.

And if

somebody tells you that,

you know, that we're asking you to rely on his word and nothing else, then you should just not believe that.

You should reject it.

But look at where he's corroborated.

and see how his testimony stacks up with the stuff that

you know is true.

And I think what they're doing here to try to tighten up the case with respect to

him

is twofold.

One,

they have given immunity to these guys from the National Inquirer, which would help them corroborate him on the agreement that they apparently had to try to purchase and bury stories that would be unfavorable to Trump.

And then I think on the back end, Stu,

what they would do is prove up how Cohen was paid.

And this is where the Trump organization comes into the equation.

After

he did these payments,

what happened in, I think the payments were in mid to late October of 2016.

And he only paid one.

The National Enquirer does one.

He does the Stormy Daniels one, which is $130,000.

And what they do with that is is he ends up being reimbursed by the Trump organization, which is odd because they don't seemingly have anything to do with this, right?

And what the Trump organization does is they tell him we're going to do this as part of a retainer agreement, and they double the amount that he paid

so that for tax purposes, it looks like it's, you know,

$260,000 so that he gets reimbursed for the full $130,000.

And then they, on top of that, gave him a $60,000 bonus.

And what they told him to do was, we're going to have this look like a retainer agreement.

And then every month you give us an invoice for 12 months, and we will pay you $35,000 a month, I think, was

the amount they settled on.

So that it looks like

he signed a retainer to do legal work for them beginning in January of twenty seventeen, and then he bills them once a month for 35,000.

So it looks like a forward-going legal contract when, in fact, it's reimbursement for something that happened in October.

So I think from the prosecutor's standpoint, what they would say is if Trump hadn't known about this and Trump wasn't controlling it and it wasn't exactly the way that Cohen said, first of all, why on earth would Cohen be shelling out his own money to cover up Trump's affairs?

but also look at the way this was paid.

It was paid by the Trump organization, and they did it in a way that was designed to conceal what it was actually about.

Okay, so we're talking to Andrew McCarthy.

He is contributing editor of the National Review.

He also was a former federal prosecutor in New York.

So, can you compare this, Andrew, to

anything else?

I mean, is the is

I mean, I find this a big big deal because the president looked at us in the face and said, I know nothing about it.

I had nothing to do with it.

And it's clear that,

well, you can't say he did.

I think he's actually admitted that he did now at this point, didn't he?

So it's clear that he did know about it, and it looks like there was some level to make it go away and kind of a cover-up.

Can you compare this to anything?

How big of a deal is this if you take politics out of it?

Yeah, I think, Glenn, it's all about politics, actually.

Legally, I must tell you now, and now I kind of feel with this thing like

I'm the weatherman, right?

I'm here to tell you it's going to rain.

Don't blame me for the rain.

I don't think this is a good case, legally.

I don't think that this is an in-kind campaign contribution.

The one case that we have that's close to it is the John Edwards case, which had a very ambiguous result.

I mean, basically, it's similar facts.

The Justice Department charged it as felonies.

The court let it go to the jury.

When a court lets a case go to the jury, that means the court has found that a rational juror could convict.

But in the end, the jury acquitted on the counts that were decided, and then the Justice Department thought the case was so weak that they decided not to retry the counts that the the jury hung on.

So we have a very ambiguous situation as far as

what the law is here.

I always think these regulatory things, they're not really meant for the criminal law.

That's why they're usually handled as administrative fines with the Federal Election Commission.

And the thing I

don't like the aspect of this where I think they could get you coming or going.

So what I mean by that is, let's say Trump agreed with them and that these were campaign expenditures, right?

If they're campaign expenditures, what if he had taken campaign funds, people contribute to his campaign, and he had used campaign funds to pay hush money payments?

I think the same people who are screaming felony now would be saying if that was what he had done, that he had diverted campaign funds for his personal use.

So I just think this is one of these things where no matter what he did,

they were going to say that it was a violation of the campaign laws one way or the other.

And if that's the situation you're in, that to me underscores that this is not appropriate for the criminal law.

We want our criminal statutes to be very clear so that the average person can understand what the law is.

I mean, you said that one of the things that they want to do is restore public trust, but trust is getting worse and worse and worse worse because Rosie O'Donnell didn't pay a price for doing something much worse than Dinesh D'Souza did.

Barack Obama had $2 million in campaign finance irregularities, which is much bigger than this one.

And yet they just told him to pay a fine.

So it's not really clearing things up.

If we were going to apply the law equally, it would.

But I don't think we do.

Yeah, I think that's a great point.

Prosecutorial discretion is something that's necessary for the system to function, you know, as an overarching matter.

But I think if you have prosecutorial discretion that's so elastic that the prosecutor can arbitrarily say, based on politics or whatever else, that the same conduct is handled in one case as an administrative fine.

and in another case as a felony prosecution.

I mean, what they did with Dinesh D'Souza was a disgrace because that was not only a trivial violation, they actually charged it not as one felony, but two

because they tried to lop on to that case a false statements case that you can't, if you're going to commit the campaign finance violation, that causes the filing to be inaccurate.

So you have to make a false statement.

So they turned something that Congress made a two-year crime into a seven-year crime.

Andrew McCarthy, thank you so much.

Contributing editor, National Review.

We'll check in again as things progress.

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Do you have no life?

First of all, do you know the story?

Do you know how the story of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer happened?

Do you know how it was created?

It was created by a guy.

I think it was in the 1950s.

Sears was having a great, you know, Sears had Santa and Sears had, you know, had all of the, you know,

Christmas cheer.

And so Montgomery Ward needed something different.

And so they went to one of the guys in their ad room and said,

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And he said, okay.

And so he wrote the story of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

It was written as an ad piece because they made it into a little paperback book that you could only get at Montgomery Ward.

Okay,

later the song came out and everything else, but it was written as an ad piece.

What's great about this story is it shows you how corporate America is different.

Back in the 1950s, when he wrote this, it was worth a lot of money.

Not like it is now, but worth a lot of money.

His wife got cancer.

And,

you know, back then, it was a death sentence, but also just, just, you know, horribly, horribly expensive.

And he was really struggling.

And so Montgomery Ward came to him and said, you know what?

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So it belonged to Montgomery Ward.

They said, we're going to give you your story.

And exploit it all you can, and that will help you get back on your feet, et cetera, et cetera.

Can you imagine?

Wow, that's stuff.

That does not happen often.

Oh, that doesn't happen.

When does that happen?

That's fantastic.

That's a great story.

And the story was to show that, remember, we're coming out of a time where the progressive president wouldn't even show himself in a wheelchair because he thought that that was a sign of weakness and he didn't want to ever be seen weak.

So the guy couldn't stand.

The guy couldn't walk at all.

Anytime you see him standing or walking, it's usually with his son next to him, and his son is the one who is holding him up, not FDR's legs.

So we come out of a time where

you're a freak, you're weak if you're in a wheelchair.

I personally look at that from FDR and think that is the strongest guy, right?

Here's a guy who did all that he did, agree or disagree, did all that he did in a wheelchair at a time when everybody thought, oh, look at the little cripple.

I think this is a fantastic story, but that's not the way it was viewed.

So what does Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer do?

It's to try to correct that in society.

All right.

So now Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer is made into a special, and it's made into a special, I think, in 64 or 62.

I can't remember.

But that's, I mean, that's, look at me.

That was the year I was born, 1964.

I haven't aged that well either.

And

for people to be upset about this in a serious way, shut up.

We've been saying it forever.

San is a jerk in that.

The

reindeer coach, Rudolph's dad, a jerk, the elf leader, a jerk.

We got it.

We got it.

At least know the facts of what the story is really all about.

And that goes with Baby It's Cold Outside.

Now everybody is upset.

Stations,

any radio station that bans Baby It's Cold Outside because you think it's part of the rape culture, deserve to you deserve to go out of business

are you really that stupid

that for 70 years this has been a wink wink nudge nudge hey let's rape girls at christmas right because it's been a we've made fun of that before as like the thing they'll jump to eventually that this is actually a date rape song yes and you know mocking the idea that you know i mean it does there are elements of it that kind of sound that way if you want it if you want to intentionally take it the wrong way.

Can I tell you how far we've come?

Do you know what this song's really about?

Yeah, it's kind of the opposite, right?

Exactly the opposite.

This song was written to empower women because women weren't allowed to be sexy back then.

They weren't allowed to be like, oh, I don't know.

I don't know.

It is kind of cold.

It is.

They were not allowed to make those decisions.

They were not allowed to be sexy.

You were not allowed to say, well, maybe I will stay.

This was a song that was empowering for women.

This is how far women have come, and yet you don't even recognize it.

Instead of celebrating this song and saying, yeah, it's a little outdated, but here's the real story behind it.

Instead, you don't even remember the real story, the real reason why it was written, what it really stands for.

You just immediately go, see, this is what's wrong with America.

It's about rape.

Oh, shut up.

I can't take the stupidity anymore.

That's really my biggest problem right now is I cannot take the stupidity.

And it's not stupidity.

It is self-imposed ignorance.

Yeah, that's a good way of putting it because it's not real, I don't think.

It's not.

Now, you talk about this in Addicted Outrage, the postmodernism stuff.

And I feel like it's so much on that path.

There's the internet comedian J.P.

Sears who did a piece on this.

And one of the points he makes is, you know, because he's basically known for mocking vegetarians and people who are gluten-free and like just like annoying diet trends and stuff like that.

And he kind of takes this one on in his latest thing, which is really funny.

But he points out something that has become true, which is, I don't care what the original intent of the song was.

We now know the real intent and it's date rape.

And it's like, well, that's with the same argument that's being made with the Washington Redskins, for example, right?

Like

that it was meant to honor Native Americans back then.

We now know that they were wrong and it's hateful.

And it's so many things like that go on where people now create a new offense to something that was not offensive when it was created.

And you just assume you know the answer.

Yeah.

You just assume you're right.

And you're a bad person if you don't agree with me.

Right.

That's incredible.

It's nuts.

Play the JP Sears cut, will you?

So here's the deal.

I was just minding my own business, looking for people to crucify in my witch hunt instead of dealing with my own pain.

And I discovered something terrible.

The classic Christmas song Baby It's Cold Outside is about date rape.

Yeah, it's either I'm wrong or the song's always been about date rape and it's just taken 74 years for someone as intelligent as me to finally come along and discover it.

And it's not that I'm wrong.

The intended meaning of the song in 1944 has nothing to do with the true meaning of the song, which was just discovered in 2018 by people who are not the writer of the song.

And get this, the writer's own daughter says the song was about flirtatiousness in the 1940s and that it wasn't about date rape.

Sounds like she didn't even know her own father.

And I think it's terribly offensive that she could even think it's not about date rape.

I'd also like to request that no one refer to Christmas music as Christmas music anymore.

You should be more sensitive and call it holiday music.

And I'd also like to demand that no one listen to any holiday music anymore because it's all just reinforcing the white male type 2 diabetic patriarchy.

The world's got enough problems and luckily I'm here to find more problems instead of solving any of them.

I love that line.

I love that line.

How true that is.

How true that is.

Okay, well, one thing that will make you feel better.

I have never watched what is the real world with Kim Kardashian or the Kardashians or whatever the hell.

What is it?

Keeping up with the Kardashians.

Well, you have not been keeping up with the Kardashians though.

I have not.

I don't see any reason to keep up with the Kardashians.

Oh, there's some gold in there.

Their trip to Cuba was one of the greatest things I've ever seen on TV.

No, I agree with you.

Oh, my God.

Look at all.

It's so retro.

Look at their, I like how they kept it so quaint.

No, that's not what they did.

I like the way they still drive the old cars to keep it like it was back in the 50s.

No, that's not intentional.

That's all their only choice.

It's their only choice, you dolt.

So anyway, now that I've said that, let me say something nice about the Kardashians.

This is an episode that I think I'll actually look up.

Do you remember the woman that Kim Kardashian was trying to get

this woman who I think had a life sentence, right?

She was 50 years old.

She was a grandma.

She was selling pot, but she got a life sentence.

Yeah, she was actually not selling.

She was transporting

multiple kinds of drugs, I believe, to someone who was selling it.

So she was kind of acting as

the mule, because why would you arrest the the grandma, right?

Like she didn't, she didn't look like she would be transporting drugs.

I mean, there's a case to be made that this was a more serious situation than it was initially sort of talked about.

However, you know, it does, the odds of her going back out and becoming a drug mule again seemingly pretty low.

And

the punishment was very harsh.

And so this had become a little bit of a cause, particularly for the Kardashians, to get her out, get her pardoned, or at least have her time diminished.

And so they did.

Donald Trump signed the paper.

Well, Kim Kardashian calls this woman, Alice, and says, What do you think?

Now they're taping the show during this, but she thinks that the woman knows that she's getting out of prison.

Listen to this.

I cannot believe it.

We did it.

We did it.

We did it.

You don't know?

Oh my gosh, Alice, you're out.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

I thought you knew.

Oh, my God.

The news just broke.

The president just called me, and he told me that

you are out.

He signed the papers.

It's been released to the press, everything.

I don't know.

Maybe it's just that.

Is there something about this time of year that makes those things just so much better?

I know.

I kind of like that moment.

I do too.

And again, like to see the video, she's standing there in a bathrobe with a zillion-dollar earrings on

and all the makeup and everything in the middle of a taping.

And this woman who thought she was going to be in jail for the rest of her life is now going free.

So it is really a nice moment, and you can tell she's legitimately surprised.

Yeah, she thought she knew.

I mean,

one wouldn't blame her for not necessarily having faith in the Kardashian process to secure this change in our legal system.

But, I mean, look, it was a pretty amazing thing.

I'm honestly shocked that Trump has not done more of this because it gave him - I mean, I don't think he's had better press in his entire presidency than when he did that with the Kardashians.

And you know that there are people that he could pardon that are legitimate.

Oh, yeah, there's tons of them.

I mean, there's obviously lots of issue areas where people have sentences that are too long or people who may be questionable.

I mean, he's done it with some people who've

been deceased.

He's, you know, posthumously pardoned them.

But honestly, I'm surprised because I think it helps his publicity so much that he hasn't gone down this road more.

Plus, Jared is a legitimate

backer, Jared Kushner is, of criminal

justice reform.

And each one of these pardons is just another great news cycle for him until someone gets out and does something terrible.

But until then,

it'll be Michael Nukakis.

And then you're Michael Nukakis.

So I can understand the risk there.

I'm not saying there isn't any.

But, you know, there are certainly people you could go through and find that are in these situations.

And, you know, it's helped him.

I think it's helped him in the African-American community quite a bit, where he's gone and he's found several African-Americans who seemingly had a rough deal with it with the legal system and has pardoned them.

That's, you know, it's helpful politically for sure.

I just want to go here.

I just wanted to play that because, I don't know,

there's so many things that just make you feel like crap.

Whether you agree with that or not, that was just a nice, spontaneous moment.

And I think we need more of them.

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So personally, I think

the Tyler Perry Club is too small.

Right now, they've got three members.

Me, Chris Rock, Tyler Perry.

And there's some random unknown person who's visiting a few places.

Oh, I haven't seen that.

This, I think, even predates.

I don't know if it predates Tyler Perry as well, but I think it predates you.

But it was someone who just decided just a random guy.

They don't know who it was.

Not a celebrity.

He was just doing it in a big way, too.

Marissa, see if you can find that story for me.

That's fantastic.

Yeah, really cool.

Really cool.

So there's four members.

At least.

Well, no, it's much more than that.

We had a bunch of people.

No, no, I mean, in that category of taking over the whole store, there's a ton of people who are doing it on their scale, which I think is fantastic.

The cool mail that I got from people who just went into stores and they were like, I had $50 and I paid off somebody's layaway.

I just think that is so cool.

And all of them said the same thing.

One guy,

I retweeted this morning and he said,

I haven't felt this

excited about the holiday since I was a kid because he did it.

It's just great.

Really cool.

Just great.

Yeah.

So that's going on now.

And, you know, the Christmas season comes with a lot of gifts.

Just like MSNBC's Al Sharpton, who is always good enough to give us some.

He gave you a beautiful gift.

Yeah.

He sure did.

Do we have this audio?

Let's play it real quick.

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You have talked about

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He is the only broadcaster worse than me.

He truly is.

That's a very, it's a very, very low bar,

but he doesn't make it over that low bar.

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenbeck program.

So today, Google is in front of Congress.

As Ricky Ricardo used to say, you got some splaining to do because of some of the things they're doing online.

Also, Facebook has just filed a patent to calculate your future location.

That sounds great.

But the really Zen-like Twitter, Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter,

he's got very high moral standards for his platform.

And it's totally a free speech platform for most people, as long as you agree with Jack.

If you don't agree with Jack, well, then it's not free speech, but you don't really deserve free speech because he's better than you are.

I mean, you know, there are some exceptions in life,

and it seems to be the exceptions that free speech for all of his friends and people who believe what he believes.

Some people just don't have the right views.

Therefore, they don't belong on Twitter.

And it's understandable.

Just like, I guess, some minorities don't belong in certain countries.

Did I say that?

Yes.

Why?

Because Jack Dorsey is all about virtue signaling.

And he's on a...

prayer mission, a meditation mission, where he's going to become one with the universe.

But where is he doing this meditation?

Oh, I can't wait to tell you next.

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So

Jack Dorsey has decided to take a dream vacation and just get in touch with his inner self.

And so he's decided to go to Burma.

Burma.

Now, Mr.

Dorsey knows a ton about virtue signaling by banning certain users who don't adhere to his progressive tenets, but when it comes to real-life virtue,

he may be the Beethoven to tone deafness.

Dorsey, very proud of his recent 10-day meditation vacation.

And last week, he let the world know how virtuous it really was.

He tweeted that his meditation was all about understanding the inner nature

as a way to understand everything.

It's this form of meditation that has been rediscovered by the Buddha 2,500 years ago through

rigorous scientific self-experimentation to answer the question, how do I stop suffering?

So you go to Burma and you're wondering how to stop suffering?

Well, I mean, it sounds really cool, except the multi-billionaire went on that silent

meditation vacation to look inside himself to figure out where he could stop the suffering.

And all you had to do is open your eyes because you're already there.

The place where you're vacationing?

You know, you tweeted all those beautiful, precious moments in a place called Burma.

A recent unprecedented UN report concludes that Burma's military regime has pursued a campaign of genocide against the Muslim minority for the past year and a half.

The regime is accused of mass rape and mass murder of over 720,000 people, Jack.

Oh, yes, but I'm getting in touch with my inner self because

All of the screams, they're all in the jungles, and so I can't really hear them from my hotel room.

these people have fled their homeland for bangladesh creating the largest refugee camp in the world

but hey the food in burma i mean you know it's great according to dorsey he's tweeting pictures of his food and he also mentioned the swell time he had listening to the music of kendrick lamar uh you know once the silent part of his retreat was over he tweeted Myanmar is absolutely a beautiful country.

The people are full of joy, and the food is amazing.

Yeah, and so is the genocide.

They're pretty good at that, too.

Some of the people are full of joy.

Some of the other people are full of bullets.

It's hard to understand why a seemingly intelligent billionaire CEO would choose to vacation in an oppressive regime like Burma.

But then again,

I mean, it's kind of what he does to people, too.

Doesn't he chase people out of the square?

Doesn't he just try to silence his foes?

You know, Jack, maybe you feel right at home in Burma.

Okay, we have something really exciting to share with you.

When we were in Florida, a gentleman came up to me and he said,

Glenn,

I just won a car.

His name is Rick Rudolph, and he told me the greatest story ever.

He entered into the Mercury One raffle for a brand new Mercedes.

How are you doing, sir?

Good.

Thank you.

So glad to see you here.

It's great being here.

Okay, so, Rick, first of all, what do you do for a living?

I have a twin brother, and we run a chemical distribution business.

Okay, so you're a drug dealer.

I'm a drug dealer.

Okay, good.

All right.

I have a brother.

We're in chemical distribution.

Okay, all right.

And you brought your daughter with you.

Yeah.

Oh, Paige.

Hi, Paige.

How are you?

Good, thank you.

How are you today?

Very good.

Good.

So,

So, Rick, tell me the story that you told me in line.

When you came out and said,

I'm the one who won the car for Mercury One.

Well, every year I've entered the raffle.

I don't know how many years it's been now, but several.

And my daughter was in a

bad car accident and pretty much messed up her car.

And I called her a couple of weeks before I sent the money in for the tickets and said, I'm going to win you your new car.

And we just get the year off to, well, we'll end the year in good fashion.

Right, right, right.

And we were traveling, and I was somewhere, and the phone rang, and I looked at it, I said, two on four.

I don't know.

But Liza left me a long message and said, I got great news.

And I just held the phone up in the kitchen.

I'm like,

clap back.

What the car.

So you call your daughter right away?

I call my daughter.

I said, got you a new car.

She said, no.

So Paige, congratulations.

Are you giving her the car now?

It's in her name.

That's fair.

Because you totally could have backed out of that.

I mean, it was a joke.

It was totally a joke.

I totally needed to join the Mercedes family, but

I wasn't going to say no.

He's one of the most kindest and generous.

That is so cool.

So cool.

So first of all, how are you after the accident?

Were you okay?

Yeah.

Earlier in the year, my right lung had collapsed and the car accident re-collapsed it but they did lung surgery so after i don't know five days in icu i'm i'm healed i ran an awesome half marathon at joshua tree in the desert so yeah i'm feeling good and strong wow why did your lung collapse in the first place it was a spontaneous pneumothora so it just spontaneously collapsed the first time um from coughing too hard i was i thought i had an upper respiratory infection but my lung had actually collapsed wow and so then you get you're fine.

And then you get an.

And then, yeah, I heal from that.

And then the accident in March kind of exacerbated it.

And then it collapsed again.

Totals your car.

It didn't total my car, but I'm pretty sure Geico should have.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah.

But the collapse long didn't have anything to do with her MMA fighting.

No, it was MMA fighting.

It had nothing to do with that.

Are you an MMA fighter?

No,

I would kickbox.

I had a couple kickboxing fights, but no MMA for me.

I have a feeling dad doesn't like the kickboxing.

Why is that, Dad?

Have you seen that?

Yes, I have.

Does he have a clap slug?

Well, when the foot comes in here about 40 miles an hour.

Yeah, that might do it.

Yeah, yeah,

that sucks.

Although your daughter can defend herself.

Oh, don't mess with her.

Yeah.

Don't mess with her.

So congratulations on the car.

Thank you so much.

I'm really excited.

You guys flew in?

Flew in last night on the way on the airplane.

I emailed

the dealer and I said, you know what?

I think we better pick that up tonight because we're going over to the studio tomorrow to see Lisa.

And I don't think we'll have time.

And of course, we weren't expecting this.

Yeah.

And so you guys are going, you guys are getting the car and driving home today.

What a great Christmas.

Yeah.

Merry Christmas.

So thank you.

Congratulations.

Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

It's good to be here.

And thank you for supporting Mercury One, and I'm so glad you won.

Love what you guys are doing.

Thank you.

It's great.

Love it.

God bless you.

Thank you.

All right.

All righty.

Let me tell you about Goldline.

There's a

stack of stuff here to talk to you about.

But next year is not necessarily looking

all that bright,

especially in Australia.

Australians have been warned to prepare for a severe housing collapse and a banking crisis.

That is the same kind of thing that we went through in 08.

I think Europe is preparing for this.

Stu just keeps throwing me stories.

This one's about the trade war.

Did you read this one?

What the trade war is really all about?

It's not about what we think it is.

If this is true, I actually

am

kind of glad.

I'm kind of glad.

This is a story about what it's really all about.

And they are just stealing.

Would you stop throwing papers at me?

Well, you said you had a stack and you didn't have a stack.

Why don't you just

talk about it?

She's throwing papers at me.

Anyway, we'll get into the China thing.

Also, economic catastrophe.

Yellow vest protests cripple the French businesses.

France is in trouble.

The headline today was Brexit,

chaos for England.

What happens if this doesn't go through?

What are they going to do?

You're going to see more and more yellow vests over in England, too.

Yeah, I'd say it could go into an entire European movement here.

Okay, can I don't that's not even a story for you to do.

I just wanted to throw some of the paper at you.

Yeah, okay.

Oh, this you know what's funny is this one is a expert warns against losing jobs over thoughts.

So I think I think I thought, okay, I got it.

Now I'm just

throwing everything at me.

I think I know what your thoughts are, and you could lose your job, according to an AI expert.

Anyway, gold line is there to

be the hedge against inflation.

I've talked to a lot of economic experts here recently.

I've been kind of having

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that you need to follow and know about.

It's kind of like that chalkboard that I did at Fox where I said, you know,

the riots on the streets, they're going to destabilize the Middle East.

It'll lead to a caliphate.

It will spread up into Europe.

It will destabilize Europe.

The left and right will start working together, not coordinated, but they'll have the same purpose of destabilizing Europe and it will spread all across Europe and then spread here to the United States.

We now could check all of those as done.

And

what comes next?

Not fun stuff.

Not fun stuff.

And we're going to concentrate that on that next

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All right.

All right.

Let me give you a couple of things here.

Stu.

You can choose the news because I'm just not going to be able to get through everything.

Facebook has filed a patent to calculate your future location.

That one is fascinating.

Yes, it is.

The new exercise guidelines.

Not bad news if you don't, if you're like me.

That's tempting.

Right.

Because it's that time of year where

every time I pass a plate of cookies, there's no more cookies on the plate when I walk by it.

It's really, it's amazing.

Right.

How can it be so hard to not eat a cookie?

But it is that hard.

And

what the trade war in China is really all about.

What do you want to do?

Definitely not the boring trade war thing.

Well, tell me that.

You got to tell me the exercise thing.

Okay, so here's the exercise thing.

Okay, for the first time in 10 years, new rules on exercising.

Remember,

I think we're in butter is okay again, aren't we?

Butter was okay, then it was bad, then it was really bad, then it was okay, then it was bad again, and I think we're back to butter is okay.

I think you're right.

Okay, so it's a little slower,

but for the first time in 10 years, they've come up with new exercise guidelines.

And when I say they,

I would have had to read the story a little bit more deeper to know who they are, but I think we all know that's what they want you to believe.

I do think that's the problem with so much of this reporting, especially on health and food and stuff, is that it's not necessarily that the study is bad or has no value.

It's that the media is so horrible at reporting it where they just take, like, there's a study on four mice that indicated something slightly.

Change the way you eat.

Like, that's not what any of those things are supposed to do.

Right.

Okay, and I, and this is all framed as good news, okay?

Uh, the new exercise uh guidelines uh aren't increasing the recommended amount of exercise for teens and adults.

Okay, that sounds like good news.

That does.

But they're not decreasing them either.

So that sucks.

However, they do change the definition of exercise a bit, so it is easier to hit.

This comes from the Journal of American Medical Association and the Department of Health and Human Services.

And

if you're not hitting the guidelines that were released in 2008, don't feel bad.

Eight in ten people are like, yeah, I don't give a flying crap what they say.

But here's a subtle but important change.

They no longer define exercise as an activity that lasts at least 10 minutes.

So now,

how many minutes is it?

No, it doesn't, just any kind of, any kind of heart rate increase.

You can count that time for any length of time.

So now,

if that's true, sex counts for most people.

There you go.

I will say, too, I'm not going to start exercising more, but I am going to be closer to the minimum amount of exercise I need to do.

Correct.

Because zero is closer to whatever they're saying now than 10.

Yes.

So if you just park a little bit further away

from your office, that counts now as exercise.

And that's a good thing to do if there are no spots that are closer than the one that you're going to.

That's right.

They say you don't have to go to the gym for 10, 15, or 30 minutes, which I don't have to worry about crossing that off my calendar because I'm not doing it now.

Although that will lower your exercise now, they're swiping the calendar event off.

You're right.

So I am exercising.

Well, no, I can't cross it off.

I could put it in and then cross it off, and I'm doing double the exercise.

They say it's still

2.5 to 5 hours of moderate intensity exercise or 1.25.

No, this is per week.

Or 1.25 to 2.5 hours of vigorous intensity exercise per week.

My week is the seven-day one, right?

I know.

I could watch five hours of television or Netflix, but I can't walk for five hours.

That's just.

They do keep.

I feel like I don't know if these studies are actually showing this or they're just dumbing it down.

Like there was a study that came out a few years ago that said it's as effective to do 10 minutes of high-intensity exercise as it is to do like 45 minutes to an hour of lower intensity exercise.

And that seems like, wow, 10 minutes.

Of course, I can do 10 minutes.

And I mean,

that kind of makes some sense to me, like, because it's high intensity.

But the other part of me just thinks they're just like, well, let's get them to do one minute.

If we say 10, maybe they'll do one.

So

they're just so round and blubbery.

Can we at least, we're not all Santa Claus.

You don't want to look like the cartoon Wally.

You know, you don't want to look, because I think that's what we're all going to turn into.

So

when you're looking at the high-intensity exercise, do you remember when we first met Ray Kurzweil in 2006?

Yes.

Ray Kurzweil is a futurist.

He's a transhumanist.

He takes

like 600.

tablets of different minerals and everything else a day.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's like, I mean, you'd be swallowing pills all day, all day.

Would you get full by that?

I don't know.

I feel like he wouldn't want to eat anything else.

You'd just be filled with pills all day.

So he's taking all of these supplements every single day, and he really watches everything.

And he invented this exercise machine that is a total body workout.

And I remember looking at it because he said, you do it, use it for five days or five minutes a day, and you got everything you need.

And the guy's in really good shape.

And when I met him in 06,

he had just started looking at his, about five years before, started checking

his actual physical age

of his tissue.

I don't even know how you do this.

But he had gone back eight years in physical age when I had seen him the next time.

This is the thing that's in like the Sky Mall magazine, isn't it?

It was like one of those devices where you're probably might have been one of those, but I think he came up with it and he uses it every day.

And everybody then said, oh, no, that's nothing because you can't do it for five minutes, and that's that won't help you at all.

And he was the guy going, Yeah, no, it helps a lot.

Do it.

So

I'm only fat because the government said I couldn't not be fat in five minutes.

I know it's too late.

I'm not a great show to blame the government for stuff.

So I'm with you on this one.

Amen, brother.

Thank you very much.

Okay.

Back in just a second, as the program continues, we look at what Facebook is now doing to predict where you're going next.

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is Facebook doing to follow you?

So you have the Google CEO today testifying before the House Judiciary Committee, and they said, well, you know,

we don't have a political agenda.

You don't have a political agenda?

Really?

Did you watch your

meeting the day after the election?

When you all got together and said, you know, hey, we think the world's going in a different direction, but there's more we can do?

What are you talking about?

In some ways, I almost feel like they actually believe it in that it's not a political agenda.

It's just right and wrong.

Yeah, it's a religion.

Right.

It's like, you know, it's global warming is a good example of this, right?

Like, it's not a political agenda to say that we need to spend $500 trillion to stop global warming.

It's just we have to or we're all going to die.

Well, you know, what you're not seeing there is there is a political agenda that you're not.

No, it's science and we're right.

Well, yeah, but what you're saying your solution is,

there's a lot of debate on that and

but they don't see it that way.

It's the same thing with like when they're talking about deplatforming people, right?

They're taking well, you said something that was bad about Sharia law, or you said something that was bad about transgenderism.

Well, they don't see politics in that because it's so obvious what's right and what's wrong.

To them, they're in a bubble where 100% of the people around them agree.

So, this is not a political issue.

That's why Jack can go to Burma.

They're killing Muslims.

They're killing Christians.

They're just erasing whole populations.

And he's fine.

He's fine.

No, it's beautiful.

And I'm here for meditation because it's a perfect place to meditate and figure out what the next good thing is we can do.

Well, here's an idea.

Don't go to Burma.

Here's an idea.

Go to Burma and speak out about the atrocities that are happening.

How's that one, Jack?

I mean, I don't need even to meditate on those ones.

I got them pretty quickly.

Ooh, that one just came to me.

Wow, and I'm still not meditating.

Today, we have Google testifying in front of the House Judiciary Committee about what do they do?

What is it they do?

What are you tracking people?

Are you banning people?

You blocking people?

They're going to bring up today that Google employees sought to block Breitbart from Google AdSense

less than a month after President Donald Trump took office.

Now, this is according to leaked emails,

internal emails, where they were just saying, we got to stop Breitbart.

And that is,

that goes right in line with what

they were talking about in that Google meeting,

that big corporate meeting.

They were very open about it.

And it doesn't have to come from the top.

It can come from just a group of people

in a room that just says, hey, turn this down, turn that down, change the algorithm a little little bit.

Nobody up in the upper end even needs to know.

Even if it's only one person.

We saw that with, what was it?

It was on Twitter.

Didn't they ban Donald Trump one person on their way out of the building because they were leaving?

And that's a minor example.

They were able to turn it around pretty quickly.

But of course those people exist.

They exist in every organization.

Both sides.

Yeah, especially when you're told all the time that here's a guy who wants to kill all immigrants and gay people and all the horrible things that Trump and every Republican is accused of.

Well, of course you have to stop them.

It's the the only right thing to do.

Right.

And

it would happen on both sides if we had a site.

I mean,

if we had a Google or Twitter or Facebook, I imagine that there would be people that would want to do that as well to the other side.

We got to stop, got to stop and shut down the Antifa voices because it's just the right thing to do.

Right?

So it's human nature.

And they just, like all progressives, they just deny human nature.

It's in pretty critical places.

Now, Facebook has just filed for a patent to calculate your future location.

They have several patent applications for technology

that uses your current location data to predict where you're going and when you're going to be offline.

The Facebook spokesperson says,

just because we filed a patent doesn't mean that we have

an intent or any indication that we want to follow you while you're not offline or predict where you're going.

Might be a problem with our patent system, by the way, if that is a legitimate excuse.

We all know that they do have some use for it, but you shouldn't be filing patents if you have no intention on ever using them.

It's like, oh, well, I came up with an idea that theoretically could be possible.

Let me patent it so that someone, when they actually come up with the idea in 20 years, has to pay me a bunch of money or can't use it at all.

Right.

That's why so many, I mean, this is, that's just a separate issue, but it is

a bad one in the United States right now.

So, what it's going to do is

the application is called Offline Trajectories, and it's a method to predict where you're going to go next based on your location data.

The technology described in the patent would calculate the transition probability based at least in part on your previously logged location data associated with a

plurality of users who were at the current location.

It will also use the data of other people you know as well as that of strangers to make predictions.

It's going to be able to predict you based on what you've done before.

It will also

you because it will go out and look at your friends and what they've done, but also,

if I'm reading this right, it will look at your friends and where they are.

So if your friends are gathering at some place and you're driving in the general area, likely you're going there.

Okay, you're still not convincing me this is a good use of technology.

What do you mean?

It's just going to make it easier.

It's going to make our lives easier.

So So you get ads in places where you don't even have the internet.

That sounds horrible.

I don't like when I get them when I do have the internet.

No, they just need to know where you are at all times.

Oh, that's it.

That's it.

They just, is it?

Do you, I mean, because a lot of this stuff is,

I've noticed this with like, you know, like the Uber and Lyft type of apps and where they will, you know, you go a certain way a certain amount of times.

They say, oh, this must be your house.

This must be your work.

The one that's really funny is the, we have the GPS in my wife's car, and it now draws new roads on the map.

Because if we go to a place where they don't have

a road mapped a certain amount of times, it realizes, oh, there must be a road there, and then draws the road on the map.

It's actually remapping kind of in real time, which was very funny because one time I was driving down the street and I looked over and I saw this circle on the side of the road.

And it kind of looks like almost like a dirt road when they draw a new road on there.

It was a circle.

It was like a well-defined circle, and there were lines all around it.

And I'm like, what the heck is that?

And I pull up and I realize it was Krispy Kreme.

It was where my wife had gone to Krispy Kreme with the kids so many times, it thought it was a road.

Oh, my God.

It really happened, which is that

it's probably not good for the diabetes future of my children.

No, but you know what?

Seriously, if that happened,

think of the implications.

If that happened and you did have a problem with weight or something else, and your health insurance would be alerted that you are going to Krispy Kreme a million times, yeah.

That's a great point.

And

that is all,

that data is so valuable to them that they will do everything they can to give you things so that you will give that data to them, right?

Like, you know, there's a new

Google phone service out.

And I, you know, this struck me as interesting.

You've been so.

Don't do it.

Don't do anything, Google.

Do not

have an Android.

Don't use Google Chrome.

I keep saying this, I've got to put it in my Google Calendar to remind myself to get myself off of Google.

I know.

But it's true, like they have the phone service, and it had a cool feature to it.

I think it was like there's like thousands of Wi-Fi hotspots that you automatically get access to if you sign up to their plan.

And I was thinking to myself,

you know, I use so much freaking data.

It would be great to have, just be able to hop on Wi-Fi when you're at some, you know, wherever these things are.

It's kind of a cool.

It's kind of a cool thing, and you don't have to learn all the passwords.

It just automatically does it.

And you know what's great about that is Google pays for all of those access for your data.

So they're just paying it out of the goodness of their heart.

They just want your life to be easier.

And so this giant corporation is just paying those billions of dollars to give you all of those free Wi-Fi hotspots all over the world for everybody because they're just those, they're good.

They're good people.

Or

they found a way to make more money off of you

because your information,

they'll have greater access to your information.

I think it's the second one, Stu.

Hmm.

You're just negative.

You're just being negative.

I know.

And it's true.

I mean, like, I think these things a lot of times do actually make your life better.

And because of that,

we are losing.

It's Brave New World.

Yeah.

You said this before.

You said this when we were doing our stage tour.

You know, China is doing 1984 and we're doing Brave New World.

And it's true.

We're doing this completely willingly.

We're giving them all the the technology.

We're giving them all the information so they can use with their technology.

And, you know, it improves your life by like 187th of a percent.

And we're like, eh, all right.

It's a way to know where I am all the time.

Right.

And

now predictive technology.

Remember, I told you yesterday there was a new thing out now that shows that they can predict, there's this new scan that can predict, they've only tried it on animals, where an animal is going to move next.

And

it's an incredible thing.

Just look it up.

Through brain waves, right?

Brain waves.

And so they're shooting this thing at an animal, and it can see their brain.

And the way it sees it, it distorts the animal.

It actually sees the movement of the animal before the animal moves.

And they can predict all kinds of behavior on this.

Well, this is here they are.

Here's Google saying, hey, we're going to have predictive technology too, just based on what we know about you and your friends, et cetera, et cetera, on where you're going.

Just look at France.

What's happening in France?

This is the closest to a revolution that France has had for a long, long, long time.

This could end in actual revolution in France.

You think with all this technology that the governments are not going to say, hey, we need to know where these people are?

Of course they will.

Of course they will.

I mean, China's already way down that road.

If you tried to have a revolution in China right now, especially in a major city, you'd have no chance of being able to pull pull it off.

Now, again, like revolutions are a lot of times not so positive.

But

most times.

Most times.

There's one example I can think of that was pretty good.

Yes.

Here in America.

Yeah, American Revolution.

I think it's the only one that ended this way.

Well, it ends with the people who started, right?

I mean, it's one thing to do.

It ends with the original goal and the original people.

And a lot of times we saw this

in Egypt and throughout the

Arab awakening

where

it winds up being some other powerful group that's not the first powerful group.

But not the kids.

The teenagers don't wind up taking over.

And they're like, oh, we're really passionate about this this week.

And then now we're being crushed by the new government next week.

We talked about this yesterday on the news and why it matters.

That this, what's happening in France could very well be what happened in Hungary.

You know, it was

top-down, bottom-up, inside out.

And you want that, you want that, that, that core of protesters to rise, cause chaos in the streets, to make everybody say to the government, you've got to stop this.

And so the government does.

Little do they know, the government is not necessarily on their side.

And it comes down, clamps down, and you have communist Hungary.

So that's exactly how it happened in the 1950s.

They did not want to be a Soviet satellite.

But there were riots in the streets and enough people in high places that said, you know, we've got to do this, we have to do that.

And next thing you know, the Soviet tanks are rolling in, and they're a communist Soviet satellite.

We could see this, except this time, they have the technology to stop anybody who is

even, literally, even thinking

that that's a good idea.

All right, so as things, you know, spiral out of control, thank goodness they haven't yet really in America.

Hopefully they never will.

But, you know, times get tough and people get desperate and they do stupid things.

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are we going to get a government shutdown for Christmas?

Oh, we can only hope.

We can only hope for such a wonderful present under Christmas.

I know, maybe I'd love it to shut down between now and all of

the rest of my life.

I mean, at least what they classify as a government shutdown, which is all non-essential employees don't go to work.

There's

no company, no organization should have a non-essential employee.

What is it?

It's a perk?

What is a non-essential employee?

It should be essential.

If you're paying someone a salary, their services should be essential in some way.

Well, that's why the Blaze was in trouble for a while because we hired people like Jeffy.

Right, exactly.

I mean, that's a great point.

It's not even he's non-essential.

There's just no reason.

No one knows how it happened or why it happened, obviously.

And it shouldn't matter.

And he'd be the type of person to be furloughed.

Why point fingers?

It's such an amazing thing, too.

It's like you take a bunch of employees and you give them a few weeks off at a government shutdown because you're saying, basically, your jobs are not important enough.

We can run this whole thing without you, but it's nice when you're here.

And then when they come back, they get paid for all the time they were gone.

So they still wind up getting the back pay anyway.

They just didn't actually go to work, which shows how non-essential they are.

I mean, again, the government should shrink by such a massive amount that the people that they don't have, there's always somebody who gets affected by this, and this is what the debate winds up being.

Well, this military person didn't get their pay or something like that.

Obviously, those things are essential to me.

Their definition of what is essential and what isn't might differ from mine.

But still, if you are finding yourself in a place in which you're calling it non-essential, they should never ever come back to work.

Because you don't have a future.

In the real world, you don't have a future.

If you're, not your government, but your office said, hey, you're a non-essential employee, I would beat it, Matt.

I would beat it.

Because trouble comes, you ain't going to be around.

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