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Hey, welcome to the podcast.

Don't forget, Stu and I are traveling.

We're on the road.

Tomorrow, which is Friday, is it the 30th or the 1st of December?

We're going to be in Tampa and we're doing our cavity road show.

Yes, it actually has some laughs in it and a lot to learn and just a lot of fun.

Bring your friends.

It's in Tampa on Friday night and then on Saturday going to be in Orlando.

Grab your tickets now at Glenbeck.com/slash tour.

Alrighty, you sit freak.

Yeah, some really interesting stuff on the podcast today.

You have

the first hour we just spent a lot on different types of families.

Started with a really great story of a family that kind of throws you about 10 curveballs in the middle of it.

It's a fascinating story about a real person going through something very real and then a fake person going through something very fake in Japan.

Except it's a real person.

Right, well, yeah.

But it's a fake.

It's bizarre.

It can't even begin to explain it.

Also, we have Mike and Peggy Rowe on with us.

It's a great conversation about family.

And also, I want to try to squeeze in one more thing.

Lamotte Hill.

What Lamotte Hill, a guy who works for CNN,

actually said, and there's no outcry.

He was at the UN reading a prepared text calling for violence and the destruction of Israel.

And nobody at CNN even cares.

All on the podcast today.

You're listening to the best of the Blenbeck program.

It's Thursday, November 29th.

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But, I mean, it's going to, a lot of times, hardcore left-wing causes because these companies spend tens of millions of dollars supporting progressive candidates, progressive causes, and it's your money, right?

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Glenn back.

You know, I was going to start with Nancy Pelosi, but I don't really care.

Nancy Pelosi is not going to affect my life.

She's not going to affect my life.

I'm not going to allow her to affect my life.

What's going on in Washington is just a total scam,

and we all know it.

Nobody really likes Nancy Pelosi.

Nobody really wants her there.

This is all a power struggle.

So I thought I would start instead with two stories.

You want the good story or the really weird story first?

I guess the

good story?

Let's start with the good story.

Okay.

And then I want the really.

But I do want where I'm still getting the really weird story.

You're really getting it.

You're going to get the really.

This story is a story about a woman who has made a choice

on her daughter.

Now, you know, the one that the six-year-old daughter

she says is

transgendered and needs to have a sex change at six.

And dad has said, no, dad lost custody.

Mom has custody.

It's being called child abuse.

I think it is.

I mean, it's crazy.

This story makes that story look normal.

Wow.

Okay.

Okay.

I'm in.

So

let's have some good news first.

When I was six weeks old, I went to have an ultrasound for tummy issues, and they noticed my ovaries were not hooked up right.

The doctor at the time thought it would be best to remove them completely.

When I was 13, I found out that I'd never be able to have children.

It was then that I started researching adoption.

As I grew older, my biggest fear was to have somebody tell a prospective, to have to someday tell a prospective spouse that I would never be able to have birth for our children.

Then I met Jason.

He was a single dad to two wonderful little boys, and we fell head over heels.

Before we got engaged, I told him the biggest secret of my life.

One of only a handful of people knew about me.

I sobbed as I told him.

He grabbed my face and he told me it didn't matter how our children came to us, they would be our children.

I went through this with Tanya.

And there is

something

about women

that

when they can't have children,

they

it just changes them and it's just so devastating

to them.

Tanya was not supposed to be able to have any children and didn't know that until we were married.

And it was so colossally devastating to her.

And I kept saying to her, what he is, honey, we can adopt.

The child's going to be ours.

I mean, it won't matter.

And we did adopt, and it didn't matter.

Rafe is, well, for some strange reason, lately, Rafe is my son.

But when he behaves,

you know, he's her son.

Anyway, before we got engaged, I told him about this.

So we took out $55,000 because there was too many

shady adoption agencies where they would cost you $55,000 and all was said and done.

So we set out to do it on our own.

We marketed ourselves online and through social media.

We made a Facebook adoption

page and paid for targeted ads.

We had an Instagram page with pictures of our life.

We also put a profile on adoption.com.

We were contacted by a handful of women, but most turned out to be scams.

Then we got a message on Facebook.

A young woman emailed us telling us that her friend was pregnant and looking for a family.

September 1st, we got a phone call from this woman in Missouri and we talked for about an hour and a half.

Over the next month we built our relationship and became increasingly excited.

However, she never got us official proof of pregnancy.

People can fake ultrasounds and blood tests online all the time.

I was ready to commit, but I because I trusted this woman, but my husband wanted to renew our adoption.com profile one more time.

We renewed it on October 1st and October

2nd, we got a message from another expectant mother.

She had been watching our profile and wanted to meet us.

Two days later, we met in a little diner 20 minutes from our house.

Just when we thought she had stood us up, in walked a very pregnant girl and her mom.

We hugged, and she showed us the ultrasounds of a little baby boy.

He then started kicking, and she had me feel her belly.

Toward the end of breakfast, she asked how we felt.

She then asked us if we would adopt her baby and love him forever.

Jason and I sobbed, in the middle of a diner, in complete shock, and three weeks later we stood there and watched as our son Andy was born.

I was the first to hold him and kiss his tiny hands.

That was October 30, 2017.

As we took Andy home and adjusted to being new parents, I had continued to talk with the first expectant mom that we had matched with.

She had still never given us any proof.

She had told us congratulations and that she had found another family for her baby.

I was happy for her and maintained occasional contact over the next couple of months.

But in January of this year, I received a phone call from the same woman.

She told me that she had just told the other family that she didn't feel good about them adopting her baby.

She then told me that she knew this baby was supposed to be ours.

I stood there, I stood there holding my three-month-old baby boy, and she sent me pictures of an ultrasound of the baby boy growing inside.

I was speechless, but I also knew, deep down, I knew.

Over the next two weeks, my husband and I prayed a lot about adding another newborn to our family only months apart.

The same resounding answer came again and again.

Six weeks after that phone call we flew out with Andy to Missouri and met another woman and her three children the night before she was being induced.

We all instantly connected.

The next day we stood at her bedside and watched as our son Ellis was born.

Jason even got to cut the cord.

I was the first to hold him as well and kiss his tidy hands.

Never did we imagine having two newborn babies only four months apart.

Adoption

Adoption is an amazing thing.

Because of a woman's greatest sacrifice and selfless decisions, I have become a mom.

Two, two of the most perfect baby boys I could have ever asked for.

We have open adoptions with both boys, birth parents.

We can talk and send pictures, and recently met up with Andy's birth parents at a nearby park.

Four months after Ellis was born we had a strong feeling to reach out to his birth mom, and she had mentioned that they were in a rough spot.

Jason and I decided to fly there fly her oldest child out to visit us for ten days so he could spend some time with Ellis.

Sean and I Sean had never been on a plane before,

and he had never been that far away from home.

We instantly fell in love with this sweet boy.

Ten days eventually turned into all summer.

At the end of the summer, he asked if he could watch his new family try out for football.

Before we knew it, he was talking to the coaches and asked if he could try out.

Sean made the top football team for the eighth grade in his first year of ever playing an organized sport.

He called his mom and asked her if he could stay.

She said, whatever would make you happy.

Sean has now been living with us for six months, and his football team made it all the way to the playoffs.

Never did we imagine a year ago that we would be adding three more children in under nine months to the two that we already have.

I have not given birth to any of the five boys we have at home right now, but I am their mom.

We have since finalized both Andy and Ellis's adoptions, and they are officially ours.

We share custody with our oldest two boys and their mom, and we don't have a time-long line on how long Sean will be staying with us.

Family doesn't have to be made from blood, it can come in many shapes and sizes.

It is the love that matters.

So here we are, a current family of seven, and we love each other deeply, and we go out on a lot of adventures together.

It's not always easy.

There have been many ups and downs and everything in between,

but we would never trade this for the world.

So many people

would love to be parents.

So many people

cry themselves to sleep because that's what they were born to be, a parent.

If you are listening to the sound of my voice now

and you don't know what to do,

please,

please adopt that child of yours out

because

that child of yours

is a miracle, a true miracle, that somebody else has been praying for.

That child has just happened to come through you.

This is the best of the Glenbeck program.

You remember the drag queen

children's story hour that was happening?

where they invite drag queens.

You're not going to preach your hate, are you?

No, no, no.

No.

This is a wonderful story of love and appreciation.

Some drag queens would be invited into this library and would read stories to kids in their drag queen get up,

which looks a little frightening for children, but I mean, a white face and then a series of five horns all over the head of the drag queen.

And then this person reads stories to the kids.

So some parents took issue with it, and they were haters, obviously.

They literally mongering and hatred.

Because all this person was trying to do

it.

Come in and read stories to the kids.

That's all it's about.

Right.

The kids, the parents said, well, what about are you like indoctrinating our kids?

Oh, my gosh.

Listen to these haters.

Of course not.

Of course not.

Right.

Well, now, amid all that controversy,

one drag queen has admitted that the events are meant to groom the next generation.

Huh.

Dylan Pontiff, who is one of the drag queens, says this is going to be the grooming of the next generation.

We're trying to groom the next generation to be accepting of LGBTQQIA2 values.

Just read that sentence again for me, please.

That's so great.

We're trying to groom the next generation to be accepting of the LGBTQQIA2 values.

Plato was dressed in street clothes for this meeting, but goes by Santana Pilar Andrews when he's on stage.

Oh.

He said that he's been bullied most of his life for being gay, and he blasted those who opposed the Drag Queen story hour.

Even those gathered at a city council meeting in Lafayette, Louisiana, who complained about it because they were haters.

However, now

LGBTQQIA2 activists have said that they're determined to indoctrinate children to accept the movement's agenda.

Could I ask you just real quickly to,

for those who don't know, I know and I know you know, could you just tell me what each of those go through the letters?

Yeah.

Well, the L,

lesbian, of course, gay, yes, bisexual, yes, trans, yes,

Q is queer, then the next Q is questioning,

Then the I is intersex,

which means, which means you kind of escape between both, I believe.

You're like, you can go either.

You're fluid.

You're fluid.

All right.

So, why isn't that F instead of I?

I don't know.

Okay.

I, A, then the last A is asexual.

You don't have any sex with anybody.

And then the two is two spirit.

You got two spirit people.

You got two inside of you.

You're both male and female inside.

And I can't.

Can we that that be called when you have two spirits?

Oh, no, don't you do it.

Don't you do it.

You hateful jerk.

Don't you dare.

Really?

I can't even question.

I can't.

Oh, my God.

Look what happened to Megan Kelly when she

was for questioning.

Oh, not your kind of questioning.

Not hateful questioning.

Oh, I just wanted to.

Is this a loving question?

Are you accepting intolerant?

Will it end in love?

Well, I think everything ends in love.

All right.

I mean, I am as optimistic and as well-grounded in my optimism as a Sako is.

There you go.

By the way, I believe we're all on the bandwagon of Quilt Bag.

Yes,

it's a much better acronym.

Yeah, it's a little easier to pronounce than LGBTQQIA.

It's true.

It sort of feels like an insult, but it's not.

It's not.

It's actually the.

And they seem to like it.

Yeah, Quilt Bag.

And I think, first of all, you have to make it the sequel, Quilt Bag 2.

And I think for all the things we haven't covered yet, if you do Quilt Bag 2 Electric Boogaloo, you're going to cover a bunch of different things we haven't necessarily uncovered yet.

Are you mucking now?

No, I think Quilt Bag 2 Electric Boogaloo is the best way to go.

You can open up that quilt bag and put a lot of stuff in it.

Right.

All sorts of things.

Yeah.

But I like how open they are about it because

this transgender person says, I'm here to tell you, all that time that I said I wasn't indoctrinating anyone with my beliefs about gay and lesbian and bi and trans and queer people, that was a lie.

I have come to indoctrinate your children into my LGBTQQIA2 agenda, and I'm not a bit sorry.

All 25 years of my career as an activist, since the very first time as a 16-year-old, I went and stood shaking and breathless in front of 11 people to talk about my story.

I've been on a consistent campaign of trying to change people's minds about us.

I want to make them like us.

That's absolutely my goal.

I want to make your children

your children like me and my family, even if that goes against the way you've interpreted the

teachings of your religion.

So there it is.

The mask is coming off, not this mask, right?

No, not with the horns.

Right.

No, not that one.

That one stays because it's a handsome mask.

And you don't want to mess up the mid-hand or beautiful, whichever you want to go by.

Right.

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John Rhys Davies

is a guy that you absolutely know and love.

You love all of the characters he has ever played, from Indiana Jones to Lord of the Rings, where he was Gimli.

He is just great, and you've heard him do a ton of documentaries.

He did one for us.

He's the narrator of I Am Israel,

IamIsraelFilm.com, and we are airing that again on Friday on the Blaze Network.

We welcome John Rhys-Davies to the program.

How are you, John?

Very well, Glenn.

And yourself?

I'm good.

I'm a little confused by everything that's going on in today's world.

You're not alone in that.

You're not alone in that.

Over here, we have an additional set of problems.

We have a government that was elected to regain our independence that has managed to do a deal that would

probably

have been rejected by the French after they collapsed in 1870.

I mean, no sovereign nation on earth has ever been asked to

surrender quite as much of their liberty to leave an organization as Britain has.

John, what do you have to, Americans have been so

concentrating on what we're doing, and it's a mess.

But if you're not following it every day,

what is this deal look like for Brexit?

Well,

it looks basically as if we will

lose any of the advantages that we had by being in Europe,

but still be bound to it in terms of we cannot leave the customs union, we cannot leave the

we cannot make trade treaties with other people without the consent of the EU.

Why would anyone sign that?

Well, we've got a big scare thing going on now.

Everyone is saying, oh my god, do you realize we're only at the end of March where we're going to fall off the cliff?

Do you realize the disruption, the chaos?

We'll have fifteen the Bank of England says that there's fifteen years of chaos coming up ahead.

Any economic forecast that goes fifteen years ahead has got to have some element of error in it.

Can you predict to me what your bank account will be in fifteen years?

I can't.

I mean, it it's it's nonsense,

but there is the possibility that the

the extent of the nonsense will

will confound

the actual Brexit moment itself.

And then I think we're into a very different world because it was the democratic will of the people that we should leave the EU.

And

once again, if an elite blocks the wishes of the people

by subterfuge or

cunning or ignoring or disdaining,

then that elite will ultimately find themselves in a very uncomfortable situation.

I find this fascinating that people are saying that, you know, people who want to leave the EU or standing up against the immigration thing, which now our own Hillary Clinton was over in Europe saying, you know, that was a real big mistake.

Oh, you think so, Hillary?

But anybody who is standing up, they're immediately called bigot and racist and everything else instead of saying, wait a minute, here's a group of people that are tired of being told that there's nothing unique about their culture.

They can't recognize their culture.

They have to live in service of everyone else's culture.

You know, if you fly the British flag or the Swedish flag now, you know, you're called a racist.

You can't have any pride in your country.

And there's a difference between a European nationalist and somebody who is just proud of their country.

Well, you're quite right, of course.

But

there's a great

drain of a sort of some mutant virus in Western European, and you're part of that civilization, which actually despises it, diminishes it, believes that all history is bad wherever we occupy.

I mean, just the abolition of slavery alone is one of the glories of civilization and of mankind.

And

it wasn't a Chinese abolition.

It wasn't

a Muslim or Arab abolition.

It was British and Western European Christian civilization that got rid of it.

You know, we have a...

all of us have a checkered history in in terms of

national identity and things like this, but on the whole, I'd sooner be in a Western European,

Christianized world than in

any other civilization that's going right at the moment.

I mean, would you really want to live in China or Saudi Arabia or anywhere other than

a few countries in Europe

and North America?

How are you feeling about

the Asia BB who has asked the United Kingdom for

refugee status?

Here's a woman who's going to be killed, her children are going to be killed, because she's a Catholic and she will not conform.

Not even the Pope is offering her a place to live.

She's going to be beheaded and killed and dragged through the streets of Pakistan if she doesn't get out of there soon.

It's an absolute disgrace, isn't it?

You know, we are constantly asked to accept refugees from war zones and things like that.

And some of them are genuine refugees, but many are just simply smart economic migrants that want to do better for themselves.

But once somebody is actually being persecuted

and they happen to, you know, be Catholic or Christian or anything like that, well, we can turn our backs on them.

somehow they represent, well, not terribly important people.

I mean, like Khashoggi now clearly was terribly important, but this poor woman,

not, not important.

Not important.

John, you're you're uh you've narrated a a film, I Am Israel, and it's in 4K, and it it it it really shows the inspirational story of uh of Israel and the Holy Land like people have never seen it before.

Where does your Where does your

courage to do things like this come from?

I am the least courageous man you know.

I mean,

there are countries financing films at the moment that

I have to bite my tongue

not to speak up.

But

when it's friends money and things like that, you have to be quiet sometimes.

But in truth,

in truth,

there are certain fundamental things that we should believe in.

The right of freedom of speech, the right to exist for God's sake in some places.

Israel is

a historical obligation that

anyone who belongs to Western European Christian civilization or is a beneficiary must acknowledge must be preserved.

It would be,

you know,

most of the good things that we have, freedom of speech, freedom of conscience,

these things have their germ in second century AD

Christians in Rome saying, I don't believe that the emperor should have to make, can make a choice of me for me, whom I would worship.

And our whole tradition of

freedom of speech, freedom of association, right to vote, and all these things, they basically stem from that idea, along with a few other ideas as well.

But, you know, we have an obligation to

remember our past and remember its inception and

honor it.

And Israel,

that curious people

with their

balmy,

extraordinarily magical

relationship with their God,

we are indebted to them.

And we must not allow that to

be lost.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Well, if you haven't read this yet, it's disturbing.

It's a disturbing read and it's a long read, but the Miami Herald has done an investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

Now, if I were to say to you that name, or Jeffrey Epstein, isn't it Jeffrey Epstein?

I get that confused.

I don't remember.

But when I say that name,

there's another name that immediately pops into my head when I say it.

For you?

Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton.

That's exactly it.

Because there was a big time, if you remember this, there was a lot of reporting on it, bits and pieces at the time, where this guy, Jeffrey Epstein, hedge fund guy, really rich guy,

took people like Bill Clinton in his private jet to all sorts of places around the world.

Including one island that he owned that was

believed to have sex slaves.

Sex slaves.

And they called an underage sex slaves, by the way.

And on the plane, they called it the Lolita Express, was what the media kind of picked it up as.

And Bill Clinton Clinton was good friends and really close.

The guy was very close, very tied into politics in general.

And so

it was amazing when that popped out to see the headline from the Miami Herald.

This is separate from the story, and there's amazing reporting in it.

The headline, however, is how a future Trump cabinet member gave serial sex abuser the deal of a lifetime.

So again, the obsession with Trump continues here.

Now, Trump is,

he also was on this plane.

He also was friendly with this guy, who's a very powerful guy in the community.

It does not condemn Bill Clinton that he slept with

minors, and it does not condemn Donald Trump that he slept with minors.

There's no evidence of that at all.

But

this guy was a big money guy.

He was very friendly with people in the community.

He lived in Palm Beach.

One of the girls who was abducted worked at Mar-a-Lago.

One of the women who was actually abused, that's revealed in the story, I think, for the first time.

Wow.

Was actually approached at Mar-a-Lago to do this.

The way it happened is insane, though.

Jeffrey Epstein had a, he has multiple mansions and he has a private island, but the mansion he has in Palm Beach,

he went out and was able to recruit 16, 15, 14-year-old, 13-year-old girls from local high schools and middle schools in the area.

And the way it would work is he got,

at the beginning, there was only one, brought in one, and it was somehow he convinced her to give him a massage for $200.

Now, the massage,

I don't think the first one didn't even turn sexual, but it started to escalate.

And when he would get bored of the girl, which a lot of times was after the first or second interaction, he would offer them more money to, first of all, get more sexual and do more sexual things

with these underage girls.

And some of them he had sex with.

Some of them he did all sorts of crazy, you know, twisted sort of stuff stuff with.

But then he would pay them even more to go out and recruit new girls

from their high schools, from their middle schools, from the mall, from all of these local places where teenagers hang out.

He essentially turned it into a underage sex pyramid scheme in which he would reward the girls who were in early to go recruit new girls to come in.

They go through, they now have for the first time

a bunch of these women giving interviews about what happened.

And this is not like ancient history.

This is the mid-2000s, like 2005 to 2008, something like that.

And they would come in, they'd have sex with him.

He had another sex slave that he had apparently imported from the Eastern Bloc that was hooking up with the girls while he was watching.

I mean, there was a lot of sort of twisted sexual stuff that went on.

And of course, these, you know, they were all, almost all, targeted in communities where, in households where they were in need.

They were disadvantaged people who didn't have money, who were abused.

I mean, it was all the typical sort of horrible stereotypes you'd expect out of the situation.

And it was people who would jump at $200 for almost anything.

So he was able to just keep paying and paying and paying.

And when he,

and you think about yourself, it got up to the point of like 100 different teenagers.

100 he was able to do this with over a relatively quick period of time.

They talk about times where he'd have three of them in in a day.

Three in a day.

His appetite was not able to be.

Yeah.

So

they go through this whole thing.

Eventually, as you'd kind of expect, you get a hundred different teenagers in this situation like this.

Eventually, one of them talks.

The police goes,

talks to their parent.

The police goes, interviews them, finds out, oh my gosh, well, is this credible?

This really rich, you know, important guy here.

Did he do this?

Well, that one gives them two other names, the people who they recruited and who recruited them.

Anyway, every time they go to a new girl, there's two or three more names they're getting, and the list builds and builds and builds and builds and eventually gets to like a hundred.

So the story is already super twisted at this point.

They all have really credible stories.

They can describe the insides of the house.

They can describe what was in certain drawers, like sex toys, where they were.

Eventually, the police raid the house.

They have, I mean, everything.

They have names.

All of the names are on the flight registry from flying them all around the world, some of them.

They have

black books with phone numbers of all these 15, 16-year-old girls that came over for massages.

Now, there's been accusations from some of the girls that he would loan them out to other

people,

VIPs.

That's not necessarily confirmed in here.

But they go through all of that sordid stuff.

Then what really kind of the Miami Herald, and again, despite the title of it, and this is where they focus some of it, it's an incredible piece of reporting, it really is.

But they go into talking about the actual investigation.

The police tried, did everything they could to try to make

this case stick.

I mean, the people who are actually investigating it really seemed to care and did everything they could to make this stick.

But political influence, money

was able to get him to a position where

the higher-ups locally were actually negotiating and having the defense attorneys help write

the deal that was being made.

Now, again,

you hook up with one 15-year-old, and this guy's like 50.

That's you're basically, I mean, in my mind, you're in jail forever.

You're everything that people accused Roy Moore of.

Right.

I mean, it's way worse.

I'm not sure about what Roy Moore was accused of.

Horror.

Way worse.

Horror.

It's not even remotely close.

Of course.

No, with one.

With one.

With one.

Right.

This is 100.

So this guy should obviously be in jail for everyone.

So

the police locally started getting wind that they were trying to make a deal with this guy.

They're like, what?

This is crazy.

Now, the Trump official was the guy who was the local district attorney, or I can't remember.

It's not even that.

It's another position.

I lost the name of it.

But he was the guy who had the power to make the deal.

And there was a couple people who were in that power to do it.

Acosta is his name.

He's the current labor secretary.

His defense is: look, the other guy we were dealing with wanted to just make it a misdemeanor and go away.

So I got a better deal than that.

He had to register as a sex offender.

He was charged with two counts of felony prostitution, one with underage,

two counts, two.

There's a hundred.

So he basically got

the cops locally were like,

we can see what's going on here.

So they turned the investigation over to the FBI, and the FBI started looking into it, and they found tons of stuff.

In the middle of the FBI investigation, they sign a deal

where he gets just 13 months, I think it was in prison, 13 months, and

in there is a promise not to prosecute, which I had no idea this was a thing.

I didn't even know this could happen.

A local official signs a deal not to prosecute, so it cancels the FBI's investigation.

They can't do anything because they signed a deal where no one can get prosecuted.

Not only can he not get prosecuted, they sealed all the records, and in addition to that, no one else associated with him can get prosecuted over this.

So, if he did loan them out to other VIPs, they can't get prosecuted.

Unbelievable.

He goes to jail

13 months in jail.

They give him a private wing of a prison

with his own personal security.

Oh, my God.

And they let him leave and go to the office 12 hours a day.

This is his prison term.

He leaves and goes to his own office for 12 hours a day.

And he gets to have lunch outside in the park.

This is, I can't remember the name of the character, from Daredevil.

In Daredevil,

this Marvel thing on Netflix, the chief bad guy, horrible, horrible human being.

He's let out by the FBI.

He can live in the top floor of this, you know, like Ritz Carlton.

He's living a luxury life.

He's got everything back, but, you know, he just, he has some strings he can pull.

It's unbelievable that it's happening in real life and in America.

This is the kind of stuff that people are fleeing their country to get to us because there is no rule of law.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program and don't forget, rate us on iTunes.

Mike Lee, senator from the senior senator from Utah, is on with us now.

Hello, Mike.

How are you?

Doing great.

Good to be with you.

Thanks.

I want to talk to you about a couple of things.

And I think one of the reasons why I really like you is because you always look at things through the Constitution.

I mean, you, you know, you were a clerk for Supreme Court justices, and

you're talking about, I want to talk to you about two different bills.

One is

about protecting presidential power.

Can you tell me about this with Manafort?

I'm sorry, Moeller.

Yeah, yeah, sure.

So

the Flake Coons legislation is designed to protect Robert Mueller from being fired.

There's only one problem with that.

It's not constitutional.

Justice Scalia pointed out in a great opinion he wrote on a case called Morrison v.

Olson that the Department of Justice is part of the executive branch.

It's run by an attorney general who's appointed by the president, confirmed by the Senate, serves at the pleasure of the president.

You can't create a new de facto fourth branch of government within the Department of Justice, one that's completely isolated and insulated from the executive branch's chief executive officer.

It's wrong to do that.

It's for that reason that Congress allowed the former independent counsel statute to expire.

What Coons and Flake are trying to do with this bill would be to create a new de facto type of independent counsel.

That's wrong.

It's unconstitutional.

And I oppose it.

Okay, so I just want to make sure I understand.

This helps the President, but this is not something that you're trying to do to help the president.

You're trying to make sure we protect the Constitution and the structure of our country.

That's exactly right.

I'd be doing the same thing with a Democratic president.

Right.

Because this is about the structure of the Constitution, and that is a nonpartisan issue.

So the president, because he's the chief executive, he oversees and he runs these departments, the Department of Justice.

So he is the chief executive, so he's the guy who can fire and hire.

Now, that could be horrible politically for him.

Could the Senate or the House, Congress take any action against him constitutionally if he did do this?

Or is it just...

Oh, sure.

Okay.

Sure.

There's no doubt there would be political consequences.

And there's no doubt that there are some things that would happen in response to it in the Congress if he did it.

And that's one of the reasons why I don't think he's going to fire him.

First of all, it's been almost two years for Cried Out Out Loudie.

He would have fired him by now if he were going to.

Secondly, he knows that there would be dire political consequences for him doing so.

And that's why he's not going to do it anyway.

That's why this is

much ado about nothing, in my opinion.

In any event, even if it were not much ado about nothing, it still is constitutional and we shouldn't do it.

Because it would then create a fourth branch that the Congress is overseeing in the Justice Department, right?

Yeah, yeah, effectively.

Because

this is a principal prosecutorial officer.

All of our U.S.

attorneys in the country, like the Attorney General himself, are appointed by the President, confirmed by the Senate, and serve at the pleasure of the President.

That's how the system works.

This bill would create a

mini Department of Justice within the Department of Justice, one that would operate outside of the executive branch chain of authority, and that's not okay.

So if I can break this down for people in ways that maybe they understand in their real life,

you know, we all may have our own roles as mom and dad, but mom and dad have to agree that

what the roles and the rules are.

This is like you saying no to your son or daughter for going to a movie.

And then mom says, well, no, there's this special carve-out over here.

Dad can't say that on this movie because I disagree with him.

Yes, you can go.

That just causes chaos in the family and destroys the family in the end.

Yeah,

the analogy is not perfect, but I'll give you points for trying.

It gets close.

It gets close.

Okay, all right.

Mike, there is

the other that you are really, in some ways, getting hammered for by conservatives on criminal justice reform.

And

you've been spearheading this along with others, and I happen to agree with you.

But some conservatives are saying, well, you're just going soft on crime.

Yeah, the opposite is true.

They could not be more wrong.

In order to fight crime, we have to be smart about the way we fight it.

Michael Muchese,

hardly a squish, former Attorney General of the United States, former federal judge.

and real hard-nose prosecutor,

has explained that pretty soon we will cross the threshold where more than one-third of the money going into the Department of Justice goes to running the prisons.

Part of this is because of the fact that we've relied on these sometimes excessive minimum mandatory penalties within the federal criminal justice system.

Guys like this guy, Weldon Angelos, who I've talked about in the past, who sold three dime bags of pot while carrying a gun and he got 55 years in prison for it.

It's ridiculous and it diminishes our ability to fight crime effectively.

So our bill would fix problems like that, giving judges an added degree of discretion to put

the really bad people, the dangerous people, behind bars for a long time,

but make the right choice on other pieces of risk.

This bill would also

provide incentives for prisoners to go through training exercises that have been proven to reduce their rate of recommitting an offense once they get out.

This will make the American people safe, and that's why President Trump supports it.

That's why I'm proud to be part of this effort.

Mike, why have we not heard any

the president come out in favor or anyone in Congress stand up for Asia Beebe and say we welcome Asia Beebe, the Christian from Pakistan that is

spent nine years in prison because she blasphemed the prophet and Supreme Court in Pakistan heard her case and said it was a travesty of justice.

And because of that, her her and her family under threat.

England has passed.

Germany has passed.

Why are we not leading the way on this?

I don't know.

That's a good question.

I'm happy to look into that.

Would you?

Look, we've got countries, yeah, I'd be happy to.

We've got countries around the world who do crazy things.

This sounds like a particularly egregious one.

And whenever we've got a country that purports to be an ally in at least some respects, we ought to be able to exercise some degree of leverage on that.

I mean,

we have,

you know, we should be welcoming.

We're having this problem at the border now, and we're having a debate on what a refugee is.

Well, here's one.

Here's a Catholic woman who refuses to deny her faith, and so

she is going to be beheaded and dragged through the streets.

She's in hiding now.

She's trying to get a Western country to take her.

Nobody will.

And at the same time, we have two million people now, these Uyghurs, in concentration camps in China.

And in Washington, D.C., just two days ago, there was this woman who has escaped from China.

She was pulled into one of these camps five times, and she begged them for death.

They're doing things that are worse than George Orwell was doing in 1984.

And I think they're trying to sterilize the entire Uyghur population.

And we don't seem to even be talking about this.

We should be, as a government, as a party, we should be showing the world what a real refugee looks like.

And it's not somebody who wants to come here for more economic opportunity.

A real refugee is somebody like these people.

Yeah, that's why we have refugee programs.

It's why we have asylum laws is to take on

people like that who are being persecuted.

And there is a real distinction.

This is not to diminish the direness of anyone's circumstances around the world, it is very significant, the distinction between people who live in a country economically depressed, generally, on the one hand, and live in a country where the government is actively persecuting people based on their faith or based on some other immutable characteristic, based on who they are more than what they do.

Mike, I'm curious if you have any thoughts on the investigation on Jeffrey Epstein.

This just came out.

It has a lot to do with, I mean, certainly a lot of really shady

interactions, very seemingly a sweetheart deal in which, you know, he had

reportedly, allegedly,

you know, done all sorts of things to teenagers, and it was a very,

really twisted tale.

And he wound up receiving 13 months in prison with all sorts of beneficial treatment, and it certainly seems like he was the beneficiary of his political connections and his money.

Is there anything we can do to stop that sort of thing from happening going forward?

And is there anything we can do about this particular case?

Probably not

anything that we can do about this particular case.

Once a deal like that is done,

it can't really be undone as far as that deal is concerned.

How do you

in this case?

In this case, there was he made a deal with what was it, the local prosecutor, not to prosecute.

Yeah, I didn't even know that was possible.

Basically, they said

the agreement was a non-prosecution agreement, which covered not only him, but his friends and others associated with these incidents from being prosecuted, even by the FBI.

The way it read was it essentially canceled the FBI investigation that was going on.

Is that even possible, Mike?

It does happen in some instances.

I would want to know more about it before attacking it wholeheartedly.

I will say, normally that is not the kind of sentence you expect to see.

from that type of really violent criminal behavior.

Once in a while, you will see agreements like that if there is a failure of evidentiary proof, if there's significant uncertainty as to their ability to prove the crime,

if there are chain of custody problems with their evidence, or if somebody has the ability to offer more evidence.

Circumstances like that can come into a play.

But like I say, that's not the kind of

response from the government that you typically see with regard to offenses like what you're describing.

Because this kind of goes back to your your bill on criminal justice reform.

I mean, you know, we can't be in a country in which someone who has a small amount of marijuana gets 55 years in prison and Jeffrey Epstein molests potentially up to 100 underage teenagers.

He makes them into slaves.

Yeah, and winds up with 13 months.

I mean, because I think when it comes to criminal justice reform, is it both sides of that?

Is it making sure we punish

real criminals more harshly and ones that are with minor offenses a lot less harshly?

Is it both sides of that equation?

No, it absolutely is.

And this gets right to the heart of the point I was trying to make earlier, which is that

this bill that we're talking about really is hard on crime.

If you want to make the American people safer, you should pass this bill because when we're so focused on locking the guy who sells three dime bags of pot up for 55 years,

that ends up having an effect when you have minimum mandatory sentences that automatically take you there, and then you have prosecutorial policies that encourage prosecutors to bring those cases because they're easier to win, easier to prove, and result in an automatically really high sentence.

You end up missing the boat or you end up diverting scarce resources away from other, far more dangerous offenders.

And so, yeah, I think this quite arguably helps prove the need for this bill.

Yeah, I just think that there's a we're growing into the state, and it's

you know it's why people are clamoring to get here they're they're not clamoring here to to work at walmart what they really are clamoring to work here for is a fair shake and a system of of justice that isn't corrupt and it seems like our justice system is becoming one where we're we're hammering people for doing very little if you have no connections you of course get the maximum sentence but if the same person has a lot of connections they get nothing They walk away.

No, that's exactly right.

And that undermines the legitimacy of the criminal justice system.

It's yet another reason why we need to pass this bill.

And I also like how you connected that to the border crisis.

I think the two are related.

Look, what scares us about this is not the country of origin.

It's not anything about their ethnicity.

It's the mob behavior that we've seen, the mob lawlessness.

Now, if you go to anywhere, any venue in your day-to-day life, whether it's church, the grocery store, a sporting event, a rock concert, an amusement park, even your workplace, chances are pretty good you're gonna have to cross through a gate, a fence, a door, something where there are rules governing your entrance and your exit.

If you break those rules, especially if you break those rules as part of a large mob, there will be consequences.

You will be thrown out.

And if you can't be thrown out, if we reward the behavior of a mob in that respect, those same venues that you today enjoy will quickly become ruined.

They will quickly no longer be created.

They won't be there for you to enjoy.

Well, I just can't believe so many people are standing up for this, as you would say, this mob.

And yet at the same time, the people who created those mobs in Europe, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, the policy that we had in Libya, they're now going and talking all over Europe saying, you know, this migration thing, thing, this immigrant thing, that was a real mistake.

And yet they're still standing up for it here.

Doesn't make any sense.

And they're disregarding the fact that there are people right here.

I mean, I lived for two years along the Texas-Mexico border, and I can tell you there's no group of people more concerned than the poor middle-class Americans,

many of whom in some neighborhoods, most of whom are themselves immigrants or the children of immigrants.

There's nobody more scared than they are about uncontrolled waves of mass migration.

You know, it's easy for people who are hundreds or thousands of miles north of that border, living in their gated communities, sending their kids to elite schools,

to say, let them all in.

It's quite another thing for those who actually live in the areas most affected.

We ought to be worried about them.

Yeah.

Senator Mike Lee, thank you so much.

The best of the Glen Bank program.

We want to welcome to the program a friend of the show and his mom, Mike Rowe, and his mother, Peggy.

Hello, Peggy.

How are you?

Good morning.

I'm fine.

Thank you.

Good.

Mike, I'm sorry that we're going to waste your time here.

We really wanted to talk to your mom.

But

you're, are you there, Mike?

I'm right here.

Is my mother there?

Yes.

I didn't hear her.

So you're not wasting his time after all.

Okay.

All right, good.

So

Peggy, I wanted to start with you and first give you a compliment on raising an amazing son.

He is,

I don't know how you did it.

I'm raising a son.

I don't know what you did, but he is kind.

He is smart.

He is one of only two people that have come into our our broadcast studios in the last what almost 10 years now.

And after he was done, he went into the control room and shook the hand of every person that

he had no reason, nothing to gain from any of these people.

And

he's a remarkable man.

You did a great job.

Well, thank you.

You know, I really can't argue with anything you've said.

I was hoping you would.

Well, he has his moments, of of course.

He's not perfect.

But he is unfailingly gracious to everyone.

He respects people and the jobs they do.

And, you know, it's always been like that.

And that's sincere.

Yeah, I know it is.

That's nothing fake.

Yeah.

So, Mike, can you tell me what it was about your mom that helped you turn out this way?

Well, Glenn, I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage because I can't hear my delightful mother talking to you.

So God knows what she's saying.

She just says.

Yeah, go ahead.

That works to our advantage, by the way.

We have Mike at a soundproof booth.

You really do.

This means the sort of game-changing game show,

if we do this right, or the end of my misspent career.

But either way, Glenn,

what was your question precisely?

I was just, now apparently Peggy can't hear you either, so this is not going to work out well.

But

I don't know why.

Can we

talk about it?

There should be some technical issue.

This has not happened before.

What I was asking was, what is it about your mother that helped you turn out?

Because I know a little bit about her, you know, her mom.

What is it that your mom did that helped you turn out the way you are, Mike?

Mike?

Yes.

She, well, look, like any good mom, she provided a great example, but she also had something that a lot of good mothers today don't have, and that is her own good mother living 100 yards away, who basically had carte blanche to walk into our home anytime, day or night,

and completely upset the apple cart in a way that was both fun, horrifying, instructive, unforgettable.

And

it's just, I mean, really.

go ahead, Mike.

When you have a force of nature living in your neighborhood who has a key to your home,

you simply sit back, hope for the best, and take good notes.

So, Peggy, that's where I want to go.

I don't know if you could hear him yet, but Mike was talking about your mom and said one of the things that really affected him was that she was a force of nature and she had a key to the house,

and

it which made things exciting.

What little I know about your mother, you describe her, and this seems like an understatement,

as a Baltimore Orioles fan that would throw her underwear at the TV and swear at the umpires.

Can you?

By the way, I could hear Mike.

Oh, you could.

Okay, good.

Hi, Mom.

How are you?

There you go.

Hey, Mike.

Long time.

Hey.

Let me be honest.

Okay, so.

So tell me, so, Peggy, tell me about your,

tell me about your mom and growing up with your mom.

Yeah.

You know, I say in the book that I actually had two mothers, and that's true.

Mother, number one,

was refined and sophisticated.

She enjoyed the opera, the ballet.

She played Contract Bridge.

She dressed impeccably, and her home was always ready for guests.

And then in 1954, the Baltimore Orioles came to town, and mother number one just kind of disappeared.

Mother number two was a crazed Baltimore Orioles fan.

She did, she jumped up and down and hooped and hollered.

Oh, and she would drag me out to Memorial Stadium in Baltimore.

Yeah.

And she would dance in the aisles and shout obscenities and umpires.

And you had never seen any of this from your mother before.

Oh, absolutely not.

This was a complete 180 from my mother.

And for a young teenage girl, it was very embarrassing.

Horrifying.

Oh, it was terrible.

I really had to be very careful when I invited friends over.

I had to make sure there was no ball game on that day.

Okay, so after the ball game, she would go right back to mom number one?

You know, in most cases, she would, unless, of course, there was a sports program on, like, baseball talk

or,

you know, where they would talk about the game, the post-game.

I mean,

mother number two

would remain as long as there was anything baseball happening in the area.

And then, number one, you know, mother number one would return.

Now,

was there,

I mean, I know,

was was there something wrong with her or was this just her passion?

Well, I don't think there was anything really wrong with her.

It was just a passion.

She just loved baseball.

And, you know, to my knowledge, this was her first encounter with sports, except for...

high school where she played basketball.

And my mother was always in charge.

So I always think that she probably was the captain of her team.

But no,

previously she had not really had anything to do with sport.

So this was a surprise to all of us.

Yeah, so Mike, let me ask you the same question.

Was there something wrong with her?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm going to go with a fundamental defect

in a chromosome, probably.

You know, I

wouldn't go so far to say it was a deficiency, but it was definitely an anomaly.

Because among her many other traits,

my grandmother, she was a corrector, you know, in the same way, like if she was still around today and on Facebook, much like my dad, actually,

you know, she couldn't bear to hear a story being told.

whose facts didn't comport precisely with her recollection of them unless unless she was talking about my mom or any of her grandkids in which case she lied like

it was no like amazing belly oh

mom honestly what did she say I was an extra basically in the opera I had one line I sang in the chorus right I've told you the story back in the 80s I got into the Baltimore opera well my grandmother loved the opera.

And so when she learned that I was singing in it, I mean, she was literally introducing me to her friends as a guy who was touring with Pavarati and Domingo.

And, you know, I mean, I was literally a star of the opera world.

And I had basically forest gumped my way into the Baltimore opera.

I didn't know Italian.

I didn't know anything.

But when my grandmother talked about her grandsons,

we could do no wrong.

And I didn't know how to behave, you know, when I was 18, 19, hearing this version of me that sounded pretty good, but wasn't true.

But I swear there was something in her that

made a kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

She made everybody around her want to be better than they were in whatever way she had to do.

And in my case, it was just wanton prevarication.

I just met a family,

I just met a family yesterday that live all on 25 acres in Houston.

And the family split it up back in the 50s between like five brothers.

And now those five brothers all live in a house

with their families.

And now their kids are trying to buy up some of the property around.

And they keep splitting it.

And they said, it's the greatest thing ever.

It's not a compound.

We're just all living next to each other.

And that's the way it used to be.

And I think there is something really,

really good to be said about having family right there.

I agree.

Go ahead, Peggy.

Yeah.

On a sitcom.

Well, it could be like a sitcom, but you know, holidays would come, and there was no question as to who would be in our house, who would help us celebrate birthdays, the 4th of July,

Memorial Day, every holiday.

My parents were there.

They were so supportive of the children.

And I know it must have seemed to Mike as though they popped in and out all the time, but really they respected our privacy for the most part.

And, you know, they were active people.

They both worked.

So they weren't at home all the time.

But, yeah, my mother did have, I mean, she knew how things should be.

And when she came over, and if I was playing on the floor with the children, she would invariably say,

Well, it must be nice to have all your housework done.

And I knew what she meant by that.

Peggy, the name of your book is About My Mother.

Thank you so much for

sharing her, and thanks for coming on the program.

And

I really

am just so impressed with your son.

and I know that's not coming from him.

I know that's coming from an amazing family.

And I just really wanted to tell you, job well done.

Job well done.

I will accept that compliment.

Thank you so much.

And you won't get any disagreement from me.

Wow, the lying continues in the family, doesn't it?

It never stops.

It never stops.

It's shameless.

Shameless.

Mike, thank you so much.

God bless.

Glenn, thank you, as always.

I do owe you a solid for that Facebook thing once upon a time.

And now I owe you another one for that.

No, you don't.

Appreciate it.

Thank you so much.

81 years old, New York Times bestseller.

When has that ever happened?

Awesome.

So great.

Peggy, keep going strong.

Write another one.

God bless.

Thank you, Glenn.

This has been fun.

Thank you.

Great.

Thank you.

About my mother is the name of the book.

You can find it now.

Peggy Rowe, Mike Rose, Mom.

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