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Okay.

You know, out of all the presidential candidates that could run for president in 2020 for the Democrats,

I'm just thinking that Avenatti is,

you know, I think he's a.

He's probably,

you might want to take him off the list, Democrats.

You might want to.

Now, I'm all for it.

I'm all for him.

In fact, I'm printing up t-shirts for him.

He's the creepy porn lawyer.

He's the guy that has been representing not only Stormy Daniels, but also, you know, the worst of the worst in the Kavanaugh hearings.

Okay.

That's this guy.

He was arrested yesterday afternoon in Los Angeles, and the reason why he was arrested kind of makes you think that

maybe there's some kind of invisible force out there making sure, you know, either irony or maybe even karma is receiving its daily offering.

I'm just

saying.

Michael Avenatti was arrested for domestic violence.

Now, the alleged victim filed the complaint on Wednesday, but the incident began on Tuesday.

The woman involved is said to have bruising and swelling on her face and was kicked out of Avenatti's Los Angeles area apartment.

Avenatti was heard screaming, this is BS.

This is effing BS.

She hit me first.

Oh,

well, if she hit you first.

Yeah, I don't think the whole she hit me first line is going to be a good strategy used in court.

You might want to rethink that one.

Oh, he already has.

Now, I don't know if the media specifically CNN and MSNBC are going to do any mea culpas over the next 12 to 24 hours, but I highly doubt it.

They have become the Avenatti network and the PR wing over the last eight months.

In fact, from March to May, the two networks had Adonati on

over 100 times.

He gave 147 interviews on both cable and network TV.

MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell actually said, quote, Michael Avenatti is becoming my co-host, I have to say.

Now, this is, you know, this is before he dragged Julie Swetnik into the limelight to attack Kavanaugh.

You know, I wonder, is this going to teach the networks?

Nah, let's not spend any time even thinking about that.

Could be a learning moment, but it won't be.

Speaking of Kavanaugh,

you have to hear this Twitter exchange between one user and Avenatti on October 5th that said, Brett Kavanaugh will be confirmed, and it's Michael Avenatti's fault.

Seriously, that's when Avenati replied, quote, you are right.

I should have turned my back on my client, told her to shut up and stay quiet because people like you apparently believe assault victims are to blame.

Oh,

this line of thinking is disgusting and offensive to all survivors.

Yeah.

And let's all remember, she hit him first.

There's this today.

Here is his statement that he made last night.

I have never struck a woman.

I never will strike a woman.

I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career, and I'm going to continue to be an advocate.

I am not going to be intimidated from stopping what I am doing.

I am a father to two beautiful, smart daughters.

I would never disrespect them by touching a woman inappropriately or striking a woman.

Wow.

I am looking forward to a full investigation, at which point I am confident that I will be fully exonerated.

This is a white man.

Okay, this is a white man saying this.

This is the oppressor saying this.

And in the court of Avenatti, you know, in the hashtag me too in public opinion nowadays, that court, you know,

holding him to the standard that he helped create, is this statement that he just made not, quote, disgusting and offensive to all survivors?

Are we not supposed to believe the woman?

Are we not supposed to immediately deem him guilty as accused, run him out of the public square, make sure that he never has a job again, that he could never ever have a good name or even a chance to defend himself.

I wonder if all the men and women screaming at Kavanaugh and the GOP senators in elevators can now see the Pandora's box that they actually wanted open.

Did he hit this woman?

Well, witnesses say he said, This is BS, this is BS.

She hit me first.

Now he's on the record saying I didn't hit her.

Is it possible this woman just made this up?

Yes, yes, it is.

Is it possible that he hit her?

Yes, yes, it is.

Should we judge him and condemn him and burn him at the stake?

Oh my gosh, it's, I mean, my hands are shaking as I try to keep the match in the box.

but we wait, and he is innocent until he is found guilty.

We have to presume that he is innocent until all of the evidence comes out, proving that he's not.

By the way, I'm not telling you anything new, you know, this.

I'm just making sure the record is very, very clear on where constitutionalists stand, where Americans stand.

I want the media to hear it very, very clearly.

Avenatti is not guilty.

We're not saying that he is a spouse

abuser, a girlfriend abuser,

that he advocates violence against women.

We're not saying any of that.

Now,

I am saying that he's a scumbag.

I am saying that he's really, really shady, but that doesn't mean he beats women.

See, this is how it works.

And when no one else will lead, I guess we will lead.

You and I will lead.

We're going to do, set the example, do something extraordinary here, something radical.

Let's wait for all of the evidence.

We're going to wait for all of the evidence to come out before we convict someone of a crime.

That doesn't mean that we don't roll our eyes, we don't laugh, we don't say, wow,

there is a God.

There is such a thing as karma.

Doesn't mean we don't say and kind of revel in it a little bit.

But as far as destroying a man's life on this, no, I don't think so.

Avenatti, even the worst, get due process that he deserves.

But I doubt neither he nor anyone screaming for Kavanaugh's head will realize exactly what's just happened.

It's Thursday, November 15th.

This is the Glenbeck program.

Well, hello, Stu.

You seem a little,

I don't know what the word is.

There's a German word for it you seem to be celebrating.

I'm glad you threw in there the idea that maybe he's innocent until proven guilty because that's the principle behind it, and I know that that's what you believe.

I don't know that everybody on the right is feeling that way today, and it's sort of understandable.

Wait, hold it just a second.

No, that's the principle that keeps me anchored.

That is not the way I feel.

The way I feel, let me just say this.

When I saw the news report, I did say,

I did say that, and I still feel that way.

But I am not willing to let a mob surround this guy and destroy him based on these allegations.

Based on the fact that he is a scumbag attorney,

based on the fact that he has built this house of cards, and I think this goes, we were talking about this a couple of weeks ago.

This goes to

who he really is, I think.

I mean, this guy kind of just appeared out of nowhere.

We don't know who this guy is.

He just all have appeared.

He's an attorney.

He's a very successful approach.

Is he?

Is he?

I mean,

every report since has been going bankrupt.

He's getting kicked out of his office because he can't pay the rent.

Right.

I mean, it all just, it all points to the fact that here's a really desperate guy who saw an opportunity to make a name for himself.

And that doesn't mean that that's what happened, but when you see the clients that he has, you know, pulled in and what he did with Kavanaugh and how he spoke with such assurity.

And I think, you know,

obviously, I hope this is some terrible person who is trying to take him out with false allegations.

Because if that's not true, then someone got hit.

And I don't want that to be true.

Well,

I'll go farther than that.

Here's the ultimate scenario here.

This is a dirtbag woman making a false charge against a dirtbag guy.

Yeah.

And the best scenario is that she goes to jail and he learns his lesson.

Because now he's on the other end of people saying, look at he's he's an abuser.

He is somebody who likes violence against women.

We can't have him anywhere near children or our society whatsoever.

And maybe he's feeling that a little bit today and going, geez, maybe I shouldn't do that.

I have a spoiler alert.

He won't do that.

I promise you.

You know, that's what makes it so frustrating.

That's what makes the part of me that says,

it makes it almost

want to cheer it on and embrace that because you know no one will learn their lesson.

But I think Avenatti is a small part of the story.

Michael Avenatti is a giant zilch.

He's a nothing.

He means nothing to us, to this country.

He is a giant zero.

The problem here is we all knew he was a giant zero the second he got on television the first time.

And these cable news networks put him on.

One, Lawrence O'Donnell said he's basically my co-host.

He was a co-host of every show on CNN for about three months.

Every single ridiculous thing this guy came up with, they trotted him out on TV with the idea of the ends justify the means.

Sure, this guy's saying crazy stuff, but it's helping our cause, which is to take out Donald Trump and Republicans.

So I'm not going to go with names here, but do you remember we had one guest on my Fox show, one guest that one time, and he was supposed to be on with us for a while, and I had never met him.

I had my opinion, but I had never met him, and I sat with him, and he was supposed to be on for a couple of breaks.

He was on for one break,

and I just was so creeped out.

Do you remember?

I do.

I can't remember who it was, but I do.

He was so creeped out.

And he was creepy off air.

And I did not care what he was saying.

And he had great stuff about President Obama.

I mean,

he was just saying everything that would make you feel good.

And I said at the end of the break, thank you so much for being on.

He left the room, and I looked at my staff, and I said, Never again, never again, not that person in any source or anything.

I don't care.

I don't trust him.

Nobody's willing to do that.

No, because they want the win.

And that was the, I mean, the Stormy Daniels thing, right?

Like, they obviously had contact.

There's some rational reason you could theoretically believe some of the stuff he said about Stormy Daniels, right?

Maybe.

But the issue with Swetnik was so patently ridiculous from day one.

Everyone knew, by the way, they're all saying it now.

They're all saying, oh, we knew Avenatti was a dirtbag when we first met him.

Oh, we all knew that

the Swetnik thing was nonsense when we first.

Why did you run it?

Why did you run it?

Right, they all just ran with it then because then they needed it.

They wanted somebody who was going to put this over the top and get Brett Kavanaugh's life ruined and get his Supreme Court seat thrown out with the hope that they could win the Senate here in 2018, which, by the way, if they had handled that better, they may have.

And they instead did the ends justify the means calculus, and threw this guy on and let him lie and lie and lie and lie and lie and lie every day, every show, over and over and over and over and over and over again, with barely any questions to his story,

with a couple of notable exceptions.

And they let him do it.

And this guy is now revealing who he is.

It's not even about just this.

The Democrats have abandoned him now because they have realized that the Kavanaugh thing hurt them, and they don't want him anywhere near their race because they all want to be candidates.

So they used him during the Kavanaugh thing.

They used him during Stormy Daniels when he was valuable.

Now he's not and he's gone.

Well, you know what?

He does live in California.

So he, as somebody else who's really, really lonely, who's been kicked out of the bed and thought they were surrounded by friends,

he and Dr.

Ford now

can go miserate

because nobody likes any of them now.

Nobody on the left looks at those two at all anymore.

Yeah, when's the last time you heard anyone talking about how she was assaulted and how serious it was and how it needs to be followed up on?

Was it about Kavanaugh Seed or was it about the assault?

Because if it was about the assault, you could still keep going after it.

Remember, there's no statute of limitations on felony assault in the state where this supposedly occurred.

They could keep going after it.

They could go after it with the police.

Yeah.

No, they didn't care.

They don't care about her at all.

Because they didn't believe her and they also didn't believe Michael Avenatti.

They just use people and discard them.

And it's despicable.

On both sides.

Because they were both using each other.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

All right, here's our, you know, but there's, I mean, you want to talk about no loyalty and,

yeah, no loyalty between thieves.

I mean, they are really the kind of like, hey, help me rob the bank.

Soon as they get the money, they shoot the other one in the head.

I mean, it is, it is the worst kind of gang violence in Washington.

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You know, Stu and I are in lockstep here.

We think when countries get together, it's a good thing, you know?

You know, it's called working together, making sure that you can improve the world

with a partner.

I think that's okay.

Like, for instance, it's great when Italy and Germany get together for a dinner.

You know what I mean?

Because Germans can make good, you know, good food.

Can they?

Well, no, no, they can't.

The Italians make the good food, but make crappy desserts, but the Germans make crappy food, but make delicious desserts.

And they bring the alcohol.

And they bring the alcohol.

And you have wine to start with the Italian.

Wine and beer.

I mean.

But you don't want to combine those two on anything else.

Just dinner.

Just dinner.

It's why my wife and I get along so well.

Can they do the dinner?

Can they send each other the food?

Can they Uber eats it to each other?

Because I really don't want them in the same room.

Yeah, maybe they don't turn out.

Now, here's another prime example of people getting together.

China and Venezuela.

Oh, that's great.

Right?

I can't think of anything that could go wrong there.

General Sao and Arepas working together.

It's a great.

What is an Arepa?

An Arepa is something that Harvey Weinstein is naming.

Yes, thank you.

It is a,

here's how I would describe it.

Two giant corn muffins in bun shape.

Okay, so like you feel like a hamburger bun, like they're two like circular.

It's like cornmeal.

Yeah, and it's like a corn muffin type thing.

Yeah, cornmeal.

And then they slather it with butter.

I love this.

And they grill it on both sides.

So it's nice and hot and crispy.

And in the middle, they dump whatever you want.

So, like, the one, my favorite version of this is just a cheese one.

And they dump it.

So it's basically almost like a giant grilled cheese made with corn muffins.

Now, that is not an authentic description, I'm sure, but that is the one that I ate, and it was delicious.

Okay, that's a good idea.

I think if I ate one more, I would have been dead.

Okay.

Yes.

All right.

So we don't mean to rub the nose of no food in

the Venezuelans' faces here, as Stu is describing what sounds very delicious that I'm sure the people used to have.

But now China is coming in and they're going to help.

And they're going to help.

Maduro, he said he's reached out to China and he said, Hey, I love your new monitoring system that you're doing with your citizens.

Can you help me?

Because my citizens are starting to get a little out of control.

And so now China is bringing technology over to Maduro to help

keep the peace on the streets of Venezuela.

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So, Pat, I know conservatives didn't really think that this, you know, caravan thing was anything.

We were just trumping it up for, pardon the pun, for the election.

And once the election happens, we're never going to talk about it again Because we never talked about it before.

No.

It was never a problem.

Every day for about 10 years.

Right.

Other than that, we never spoke of it.

We don't care about the border at all.

Right.

So yesterday, something

very interesting happened.

In fact, something that CNN and MSNBC and everybody else, in fact, Shepard Smith said wasn't going to happen.

Oh, it's months away and hundreds and hundreds of miles away this care.

It's going to happen.

And then all of a sudden, they're climbing the fence at the border in San Diego.

Yesterday.

Hello.

Hi.

Welcome.

Hey, that's great.

And of course, they weren't going to climb the fence because they were all here seeking asylum and they were just going to be admitted because they're asylum seekers.

Right.

And I noticed all the mothers with their babies that were up on top of the car.

Man, lots of babies climbing the fence.

Lots of babies.

So, anyway, this came in.

The caravan had how many buses?

Well, yesterday's was, I don't know how many, but there were 400 people in the buses.

Now, the caravan that's about to arrive is 22 more buses filled with 900 more people, and then there's three more caravans behind that.

Let me ask you, and three more caravans behind that.

Now, let me ask you this.

This definitely not an invasion force.

No.

This is just poor, oppressed people that just have no money or influence at all.

How did they afford the buses?

And it's my assumption.

Isn't that curious?

They were staying at one of the very nice hotels.

Yeah, yeah.

Tijuana.

I don't.

Where do they get the money for that?

Maybe that's a relative thing, a nice hotel in Tijuana.

It could be $8.

Maybe.

Yeah, but it's a super eight.

$8.

It's $8.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the other thing is they don't have any connections.

And of course, we learned from CNN that Mexico is going to stop this before it happens.

Except for Mexico sent the federales, the state and federal troops to escort them to the border.

Oh, that was so convenient for them.

So the buses had

a law enforcement procession and escort.

Yeah.

But my understanding was, Pat, these caravans were hundreds of miles.

Hundreds and hundreds of miles.

And that's accurate, right?

And then, no, they're at the border now with San Diego, the T1 and San Diego border.

San Diego is hundreds of miles from where we are.

Maybe that's what they meant.

Maybe that's.

Is that it?

Yeah.

In fact, Iowa is hundreds of miles away from where we are.

So we never really have to worry about that.

Oh, great.

And if you brought this up, of course, you were fear-mongering.

We were mongering in fear.

And I don't know a single person who's afraid of these

immigrants.

I don't know anybody who's actually scared.

Can we stop calling immigrants?

They're concerned.

They're not.

They're illegal aliens.

They're illegal aliens.

They're illegals.

Immigrants come here.

That denotes something lawful.

Yes.

You come in here because you want to be a part of our country.

You're not trying to make a political point.

You want to come and add to whatever it is that we're doing here in America that you can't find anyplace else.

And you ask for permission to come in, and hopefully we say yes.

And that's immigration.

It has to be that way, no matter what your circumstances are, because it's chaos otherwise.

And that's what we have at the border right now: chaos.

And the left, the mainstream media is just yelling at everybody who's concerned about this

and saying, saying, well, look, we already have thousands of people that come across the border every day.

Right.

And this isn't instead of that.

This is an addition to

you.

Right.

They didn't take the place of the other illegal immigrants.

And those guys come in at night.

Yeah.

These guys are announcing it and they don't care.

We don't care.

The president has said what your laws are.

Don't care.

We're coming in.

Because there's that brazen sort of

escalation here, right?

Like there's that, you know, this happened.

We've seen this before, right?

Like there are people living in the shadows and they're hiding and they're trying to work everywhere.

They're living in the shadows.

But then there was another group that they'll come out and do rallies.

There'll be 20,000 people who are illegal immigrants walking down the street, daring immigration officials to do anything about it.

And that is another step.

It's an escalation.

Isn't this the same thing that we're talking about?

I'm so sick of this CNN lawsuit with the president.

I know it just happened yesterday, but

I can't take it.

What is the president supposed to do?

If you're in a press conference, if there isn't any rule, like on the border now, no rules.

You just don't care what the law is in.

Oh, you've got guns.

Oh, you have troops.

We don't care.

We're coming anyway.

Yeah.

Okay.

We don't want you.

We don't care.

We have a right to be in your country.

There's no law.

What are you going to do?

What are you going to do?

They're doing the same thing.

Jim Acosta is doing the same thing that the migrants are, these people who are coming up in the caravan, they are daring the government to do the worst.

Now, yesterday in the court, they were saying, well,

CNN's attorneys, well, the president sets the tone, and he

reporters often ask for, you know, a follow-up question.

Yeah, but he did four follow-up questions.

And he didn't

ask, sit down.

Correct.

The president says, sit down.

Sit down.

We're done.

Sit down.

Disrupted the press conference.

We can't have that going on day after day.

And

if there are no rules,

how do you have a press conference?

If everybody is just incentivized to get their question in and they can hold court and hold on to the president's attention and filibuster,

how is anybody going to else ask a question?

How do you control anything?

You don't.

You don't.

You don't.

This is anarchy.

This is chaos.

There are only two options here, though.

I mean, basically, if you're CNN, you either have to admit that your reporter is a douche, which he is completely.

You have to just say, like, look, he was obviously awful in that situation, and we're punishing him or firing him or whatever, or you're going to have to fight it with all your might because

you can't let the precedent be set that every time the president doesn't like something that your reporter says, that they're going to pull his credentials.

I'm just a bone of contention, though.

If it's he didn't like something he said, then it's a violation of the First Amendment.

If it's he's disrupting the press conference for everybody else, which he was.

And is it a president?

The president's attorney yesterday, I thought the Justice Department did a poor job.

The Justice Department came in and said the president could kick anybody out at any time for any reason.

That's not a good reason.

No, that's not.

Is it a First Amendment violation, though?

I don't know that.

See, and I don't know how you make that case because Jim Acosta hasn't been denied saying anything.

He can still go on CNN and say whatever he wants.

That's First Amendment speech.

This is freedom of the press.

Freedom of the press, but until he has the freedom.

But the Blaze doesn't have a reporter there.

Somebody else.

Right?

Like, I mean, we don't have any access to that room.

CNN could send somebody else.

Yes.

I mean, that's the deal.

And that's the case they should have made.

Look,

the president is not trying to silence CNN.

The president is not trying to say

that he can't come.

What the president is saying is there is decorum.

There is decorum.

When the president says, we're done, we're moving on, you cannot grandstand and hijack the report.

And they didn't argue it that way?

No, they didn't.

No, that's bad.

No one gets screwed in this situation to me more than the other reporters in the room because Jim Acosta takes up all the time and he asks all the questions and he tries to get all the attention for himself.

And it doesn't help the other reporters.

But because they hate Trump so much.

They hate Trump so much that they can buy him.

Acosta.

Yeah.

I mean, I will say, like, I don't like this approach, particularly by the administration.

I would much rather have them.

He had the mic in his hand.

Next time, he doesn't get called on, and he doesn't get the mic.

So

he could sit there and blab all he wants.

If this judge says okay,

he's going to be emboldened.

Now, CNN is going to bring it to a higher judge no matter what.

Of course.

Yesterday in their reporting, they were like, ah, we just want you to know

this is a Trump-appointed judge who seemed to cut CNN's argument off quite a bit.

If you were watching.

They don't have an argument here.

Do they?

I mean, look, I'm no

longer someone else.

If the argument is

that the president can do anything he wants to the press,

I think you lose.

Yeah.

If the argument was, it wasn't yesterday, at least that I read, and it should have been,

if the argument is the president,

and this was argued by the judge.

I think the judge brought this up and said,

you know, look, there has to be decorum.

And CNN said, well, the president sets that tone, and he's the biggest bully in the room.

And, you know, if it's going to be

he said, she said, and if he's going to be a bully, then I can be one too because he started it.

I slapped her first or she slapped me first kind of thing.

Right.

You know, that's

he's going to lose.

My biggest problem with this, though, is that Jim Acosta has literally no interest in what is going on in that room.

What Jim Acosta cares about is raising the profile of Jim Acosta.

And what has happened here is we have raised the profile of Jim Acosta.

The other problem is that we are now on the equal plane in a battle with the president of the United States.

Trump loves it too, though.

That's the other problem, is that they both love it.

Because what?

Because why?

We're not talking about things we should be talking about.

We are talking about this crap.

And, you know, and it polarizes us and it makes us into teams.

We're sitting here falling into the trap.

Hopefully we are

keeping this based on principles.

This is not a First Amendment violation.

Unless the president says, I'm going to get rid of you because I don't like your point of view.

The president can't do that.

That's freedom of the press.

They should be able to ask uncomfortable questions,

but they should do it with respect.

And if the president says, I'm done, I'm done.

And now you can read into that.

The president cut us off.

The president wouldn't say anymore.

The president is stonewalling.

That's what they always do.

That is the way our system works.

Thanks, Pat.

Pat Gray Unleashed is happening on the podcast.

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So, you know, I said, my father said to me at one point,

you know,

you're going to turn out just like me.

And I said, no, I'm never going to be like you.

And I realize I'm just, I'm turning out just like him

because I come home at night and I realize I really don't want to do anything.

It's like,

it's like, it's like the chair in our living room by the TV is like a black hole and I get too close to it and I cannot resist the gravity.

It pulls me to it.

And,

you know, I have become my father who used to come home and he would watch a little bit of TV and then he would fall dead asleep in his chair.

In the chair with a recliner with a feet up?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's America.

That's what America is.

It is.

And I like that.

And I feel a little bad for my family

because, you know, they want to do stuff.

Like, hey, let's play a game.

No.

No.

We all feel bad for your family too, but I think it's separate.

It's a separate reason.

Yeah, no, I think that is, there's a big part of me that just wants to sit down and just put your feet up and watch TV and just never turn your brain on again.

Thank you.

Right?

Yes, you made me feel a little bit better about myself.

So at least I'm not alone.

It's a terrible instinct, but it is an instinct.

Back in a minute.

Glenn back.

Well, it's been a busy week for the former First Ladies,

for the current First Lady Melania Trump, but it has also been a busy one for the woman who, 20-odd years ago, while working at the White House for

the then president at the age of 21, shot to fame in the most embarrassing way possible.

The name, of course, we all know.

In fact, her last name has become a verb, Monica Lewinsky.

She has released the, quote, Clinton Affair docuseries that premieres this weekend on A ⁇ E.

It's a six-part series examining the cringe-inducing days and months surrounding her affair with Bill Clinton.

In an article in Vanity Fair earlier this year, she wrote this, Some closest to me asked why I would want to revisit the most painful and traumatic parts of my life, again, publicly, on camera, with no control on how it would be used.

A bit of a head scratcher, as my brother is fond of saying, do I wish I could erase my years in DC from my memory, eternal sunshine of the spotless mind style?

Well, is the sky blue?

I can't.

And in order to move forward in life, I have to, I must take risks, both professional and emotional.

An important part of my moving forward is excavating, and often painfully, what has gone before.

When politicians are asked uncomfortable questions, they often duck and dodge by saying, that's old news, it's from the past.

Yes, but that's exactly where we need to start to heal with the past, but it isn't easy.

She added, filming the documentary forced me to acknowledge to myself past behavior that I still regret and feel ashamed of.

I think this is a really good thing.

There are many, many, many moments when I question not just the decision to participate, but my sanity itself.

Despite all the ways I tried to protect my mental health, it was still challenging.

During one therapy session, I told my therapist I was feeling especially depressed.

She suggested that sometimes what we experience as depression is actually grief.

Yes, it was grief.

The process of this docuseries led me to to new rooms of shame that I still need to explore.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton, the man who has been accused of all sorts of terrible, terrible things, a close friend of Harvey

Weinstein, recently admitted that he didn't feel the need to apologize to Lewinsky.

Lewinsky disagrees.

I'm less disappointed by him and more disappointed for him.

He would have been a better man for it, and we in turn a better society.

The hashtag Me Too movement has been a wrecking ball for so many men.

Yet Bill Clinton, perhaps the most prolific of them all, has escaped unscathed.

But perhaps that begins to change with this docuseries.

It's Thursday, November 15th.

This is the Glembeck program.

Stu, I don't know how we're supposed to feel.

I don't know what the politically correct thing is to feel.

But the more I see Monica Lewinsky, the more I like her.

And the more empathy I have for her.

Her,

I mean, who didn't make stupid moves when they were 21?

Can you imagine whatever it is, the worst thing you've ever done in your life, if that was all you were known for?

Yeah.

And it would never go away.

And you couldn't have...

I mean, how does she have a regular relationship?

I mean, as a guy, you're married to Monica Lewinsky.

How many jokes if you're dating her?

So, how many jokes?

That would be agonizing.

It would be horrible.

Yeah, and you know what?

I think one of the reasons why she comes off as likable is she seems to be the only one in that entire situation who's actually wrestled with what occurred.

Right?

Like, Bill Clinton has never shown any true understanding of what happened there.

Hillary Hillary Clinton has never wrestled with what happened, I think, from her perspective when she was basically trying to beat these women into oblivion politically to make them go away, to preserve her husband's career.

She really seems to have done soul-searching, and what I like about it is

she's not just coming out and saying, I'm a victim and look at me.

I'm the new face of me too.

Right?

Like, she's saying, I did some things, you know, really terrible things, and I shouldn't have done them, and I feel terrible about them.

And I have called and written people that I wronged at the time to apologize.

And

she seems to really have a good time.

Go to, let's play a couple of clips from this.

Just play clip number one here, Sarah.

There was a point for me somewhere in this sort of first several hours where I would be hysterically crying and then I would just shut down.

And in the shutdown period, I remember looking out the window and thinking that the only way

to fix this was to kill myself, was to jump out the window.

And

I just, I felt terrible.

I was scared, and

I just

was mortified and afraid of what this was going to do to my family.

And,

you know,

I still was in love with Bill at the time.

So I just, I felt really responsible.

I mean, that's...

Wow.

She felt responsible for giving him problems, right?

She was so in love with him that she felt.

And she said this in another point, too, that she

didn't come out and speak out about it initially because she

didn't want to cause problems.

She was okay with him denying the affair initially because she didn't want to cause problems for him.

That's a tough.

I mean, look, again, she admits that she did wrong here.

I mean, he was worse, obviously.

He was the one that's required to not do things like that.

I mean, you know, she did something wrong, though, too, and she admits that.

But, I mean, that is a brutal moment.

You know, I mean, and you can imagine it's non-stop for her.

The entire country is talking about her.

You know, Bill Clinton's the president of the United States.

He's used to this sort of stuff.

He has a capacity to deal with it at some level.

You're just some intern who rolls in there and gets out of control and does something stupid, and then your entire life is defined by it.

That is really, I mean.

I want you to, could I play that clip one more time?

But I want you to listen to it with a different ear.

Because this is what struck me.

This was happening when we were doing morning radio.

Were you with me at that time?

Probably not.

Yeah, no, I was there, yeah.

And then we did, you know, we did the trial.

We did a whole show.

And I can't recall, but I'm sure I made Lewinsky jokes.

Oh, I'm sure.

I'm sure we did.

Everybody in America was making jokes.

Everybody.

I want you to just put yourself right now, real quick, back in that time of what you were doing and saying at the time.

And now

listen to what she was going through at the same time we were doing whatever it is we were all engaged in.

Listen one more time.

There was a point for me somewhere in this sort of first several hours where I would be hysterically crying and then I would just shut down.

And in the shutdown period, I remember looking out the window and thinking that the only way

to fix this was to kill myself, was to jump out the window.

And

I just, I felt terrible.

I was scared and I just

was mortified and afraid of what this was going to do to my family.

And,

you know,

I still was in love with Bill at the time.

So I just, I felt really responsible.

As we were just arguing about he lied, he's a dirtbag, he shouldn't be president.

She was worried about her family.

She was contemplating suicide because she just wanted it to stop.

How many of us

took the time

or were

Christ-like enough to be able to say,

she's a human being.

Wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

This is a human being.

This isn't about politics when it comes to her.

Think of how she was run

through the mud.

And nobody really cared about her.

I don't think anybody really cared about her.

It was all about him.

Nobody really cared about her.

Yeah, you know, interesting, she never really was an ally of the right.

Where, you know, sometimes where you have like,

you know, if someone accused Barack Obama of an affair and was outward in speaking about it, like Stormy Daniels is with Trump, right?

Like, Stormy Daniels feels, I'm sure, to the left like an ally because she's trying to take the president down.

Monica Lewinsky never was like that.

She remember, it was Linda Tripp who recorded her, was the whole reason why a lot of this stuff came came out.

She didn't go to the, she didn't try to destroy his career with this information at all.

She just knew.

She talked to Linda Tripp, if I'm not mistaken, because she knew she was in trouble.

Some of the other accusers

were more outspoken.

I mean, you know, Paula Jones and those, who became figures that were at least accepted by half the country.

Monica Lewinsky, because she never really aligned herself with...

the right in the effort to take Clinton down, she had no allies because, of course, the Democrats abandoned her immediately.

And, you know, she became just the butt of jokes.

I don't know that I ever realized it.

It's a really interesting way you put that, to listen to it with that ear, because I don't know that I ever realized it with that case, and that case was a long time ago, but we were, I'm sure, making jokes and stuff like everybody was.

Nobody

had to have been.

Everybody was.

John Ronson was a guy, and we've had him on a few times, who wrote a book about more in the social media era, these people, these random stories you hear that bubble up for one day.

The famous, most famous one is the woman who made the joke about AIDS in Africa, trying to mock the fact that we didn't care about Africa enough.

But she was going over to Africa on a plane to go help.

She was going over to help, and she was on the plane when the tweet blew up, went viral, and her life was basically ruined.

And

you read stories like that, and you realize when this thing that seems fun to give snarky comments to on the web, there's somebody there just suffering through that moment.

It's the worst moment of their lives.

I know you've done this with

several of these situations.

The one that pops into my head was James Gunn, the guy who did Guardians of the Galaxy.

And they unearthed some tweets of his that were

not ones he wanted to represent his current character.

And he lost that gig.

We're talking, you know, this is an eight-figure

gig for him.

And you are on Twitter saying, like, look,

I understand.

And

you were,

I think a lot of people on the right did go after him for that because he was a left-wing celebrity and he was critical of people like Ben Shapiro.

But I mean, in those moments, if you can kind of get over that

desire to feel that emotion,

I think you wind up being a better person for it.

I think you do.

And this brings me to something else.

Monica Lewinsky now,

that's all she is.

It's like Brett Kavanaugh.

That's all he'll be.

He'll be that moment.

Doesn't matter how long he lives for the rest of his life.

Clarence Thomas.

Pubic care.

That's all he is.

He will always have that attached.

There's something that's happening in Europe, and

I find it viscerally the right thing,

but

intellectually, absolutely the wrong thing.

Now in Europe,

they are claiming there is another human right that all humans deserve, and that is the right to be forgotten.

Now think of this.

Monica Lewinsky, the case would be

she has a right to be forgotten.

She

shouldn't have to live her entire life.

apologizing or being shaped by one event in her life when she was 21 years old.

She has a right to be forgotten.

And because of the internet, it never goes away.

It's always there.

And so you don't have a chance to start over again.

And I really do believe this is something that we have to address because

our memories,

they work to our advantage.

I mean, our memories soften.

We think of our childhood years as better years, most of us, even though they weren't.

They weren't.

We just see them differently.

Time eases things.

But when you have the internet and it is right there in your face and it's always that thing,

you don't ever move.

If you're big enough, if that mistake was big enough, like Monica Lewinsky, she can never move on from that.

Now they're passing laws in Europe.

But the problem with it is, well, then are you erasing history?

You can't erase history.

But how do we balance this?

How do we balance the right to be forgotten

with the right to record history as it really truly was?

We have no separation from the history now, and that's the real problem.

I mean, the easy way to look at this is just become a progressive, and then all of your sins are always forgotten.

They'll never bring it up again.

It was never recorded in the first place.

It's like it never happened.

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Catherine Harris is going to be on with us.

I don't think I have talked to Catherine Harris in at least a decade and probably approaching two.

She was the

Secretary of State in Florida.

She oversaw the recount in Florida in 2001.

And

2000, mostly.

Yeah, I'm sorry, 2000.

And I met her for the first time

because of the recount.

At the first speech I ever had to give as a talk show host.

And

I'd never really been on stage before to talk and give a speech.

I had never done that.

And Jeb Bush was the governor.

She was the Secretary of State.

And I had to, I think, open for those two.

And I think I had to give maybe 20 minutes.

And there were 500 people there, maybe.

It was the Lincoln dinner speech.

This is like six or eight months before September 11th.

And

I met the limo driver a few years ago, and he says, you don't remember me, do you?

And I said, I'm sorry, I I don't.

He said, I drove you to the first speech you ever gave.

And he said, I had to drive you from Tampa to, I don't remember where it was.

And he said, I thought I was going to have to stop the car because I thought you were going to vomit several times.

And I remember, I was like, I can't do this.

Tanya was with me.

I'm like, I don't want to do this.

I'll never do this again.

I don't know why I accepted this.

I'll never do this again.

And I gave the speech and I drove all the way home.

Okay, we dodged a bullet.

I'm never going to talk in public again.

I hate this.

Since then, you've made a few speeches, I've noticed.

I've made a few speeches.

And now I think I must have prepared for that for days and days and days.

And I just gave a speech in Bermuda.

And

I, you know, I had spent the night working on it.

And Stu, you know, because you've helped write so many of my speeches.

And I was sitting there and I wrote this one all myself.

And I look at it and I'm getting ready to walk out.

And I just look at it and I'm like, there's not a chance in hell I'm going to use a single word of this.

And just gave a speech without any, you know, just kind of let it go where it was going.

And I can't believe

how much time can change a person.

Yeah, I mean, that's because you,

as someone who spent a lot of time writing speeches for you and then watched them get just basically tossed on the ground or ignored,

it's one of the things.

You could have run a whole nother episode of the Fox show just based on the stuff that was in the teleprompter that I never used.

Oh, my gosh.

Easily.

Easily.

Whole shows.

Fox wanted to, to, they wanted to know what I was going to say in advance.

You know, please, can we, we need to look at the script beforehand?

So we would produce a script every day, but many times I would walk in and go, yeah, not going to use any of that.

Turn it all off.

And it would be three minutes before the show.

Well, what are we going to do?

Just follow me.

And

the writers who had spent, you know, Stu, Pat, Dan Andros at the time, they weren't happy.

They weren't happy because they had spent all day working on that.

Yeah, I remember doing that a lot.

It was not fun.

Yeah.

Not fun.

Thank you for that.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Just taking you down memory lane of all the good times.

Anyway, Catherine Harris is going to come on and talk a little bit about what is happening with the overheated counting machines now.

Florida is supposed to have an answer today.

Are they going to have one?

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In about an hour from now, I could be calling you.

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You've won the VIP tickets to

the ball, which is about

$750, but you get a kind of extra thing because you're going to be sitting at Stu's table and you're going to be hanging out with me and Stu and Pat and everybody from the Blaze.

And you're actually saving Pat from game night.

So that's really.

You mentioned that.

Yeah,

Pat's wife makes him play games on Sunday, and

he likes that about as much as I would.

It's not sitting.

I mean, he may be sitting while playing the game, but he has to think.

Yeah, you have to think.

You have to talk

to people.

And that's not what he wants to do.

It's not just any people.

It's family.

So

that tells you about how much interaction you're going to have with Pat

when he's at the ball.

He'll probably be just staring at the wall, but it's great to to sit next to Pat as he's staring at the wall.

So I don't know how my kids are going to remember me because they were at the house the other night, I think Monday or Tuesday, and we're all, you know, we're all laying on the bed and we're all laughing and joking and everything.

And then it's just, it's time for everybody to leave.

And I don't have a problem saying, okay, everybody get out of my house.

And they're like,

okay, dad, we're going.

I'm like, no, no, no, I mean it right now.

Get out.

I'm not sure exactly how my family is going to remember all of that.

But I mean it with love, but I sincerely also mean it.

Get out.

Get out.

It's time now to move on and

for me to go to bed, basically, you know, or sit in my chair.

And I could sit in my chair and watch, you know, some Netflix show and fall asleep.

I'm fine with that too.

Sounds delightful.

For you talking to me, I've had my fill.

We've had about two and a half hours.

That's good.

I'm good.

I'm full up.

So now that we've sold you on an evening with us.

Yeah.

Wow.

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So today you can buy a raffle ticket and

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I think it's in February.

This one is for four score.

Hang on.

My daughter sent it to me because she knows what it is.

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Explain what this name is.

It's true.

So this is, it's based on, you know, four score and seven years ago.

It's now been 12 scores and three years since the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

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You thought it would be clever to name it something.

You don't understand it.

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That's pretty clever.

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It's very clever.

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I don't think it's going to be spotty.

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You know, the economy could turn.

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And that'll be kind of a history.

history thing.

We have really cool history happening.

Did you put a question mark at the end of congratulations?

Yes, I did.

I don't know.

I mean, you may be like, I just want to give the money, and I don't want to see you guys.

Yeah,

we're not going to force you to come.

Just so you know.

Yeah, I mean, you know.

That's one big thing, and we're not going to make you come to the event.

We're happy to let you stay home if you wish.

It's just.

So we're stalling here because Catherine Harris is supposed to be on with us.

Do we have any update on

her whereabouts?

She's not coming on.

No, just

not yet.

She probably thought it was next hour.

She's in Florida.

She probably thought it was next hour.

We have found that counting is hard in Florida.

That's what I was thinking.

You don't know.

I mean, is it 9?

Is it 10?

Is it 11?

Is it

3?

I don't know.

I do have another example of how hard counting is.

If we could get to that, we're going to do it today, but maybe we can move it into this slot because it does kind of fit here.

Math is hard.

Math is a difficult thing.

I know where you're going, and I love that you're going here.

Sometimes we work really hard, and we try to get the math right, and sometimes it just doesn't work out.

Well, that's why we have a margin of error.

Yeah, that's right.

This, however, did not fall into the.

Because you need a margin of error because sometimes, you know, you can be wrong by 3%, 2%.

You can.

That's what I mean.

That's right.

And so that margin of error, we all understand.

Well, there was a study that came out a few weeks ago, and

it was in the science journal Nature.

Now, this is one of the most prestigious scientific journals.

This is a big one, yeah.

Heavy peer review

goes into this process.

You don't just get something published in Nature where it's gold standard.

And what happened is it was about global warming and how the Earth's

oceans are warming faster than previously thought.

And they were very sure of this.

They went through, they laid out all of their work.

And

one of these, and you know how this happens, one of these climate deniers got a hold of this.

Are they still, we are not picking them up and throwing them in jail yet?

I don't know why.

I think they should all be in prison.

Okay.

If not worse.

So what did this guy do?

So this guy decided to like check the math.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

I mean science denier.

Typical science denier.

Because as we know, science should be published and never questioned again.

Exactly right.

When you find out something like the earth is flat, you go with it forever.

You know what you need to do is when you hand in kids, if you're listening and you have a math paper that has to go in, turn into the teacher.

If she comes back and says, hey, these answers are not right, you just say science denier.

Right.

And I mean, who is she to check your math?

That works really well.

Exactly right.

So this study was published on behalf of Princeton University with institutions in China, Paris, Germany, and the U.S.

National Center for Atmospheric Research and Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory.

I don't think they have a mathematician.

No, I'm sure not.

What they found was

the certainty of the study not quite as certain as they thought.

What they discovered was, and the climate, evil climate deniers, one who found this out, that their estimates of how sure they were were completely wrong.

In fact, it was 10 to

70% wrong.

So the margin of error usually is about 3%, but this could be as high as 70%.

70%.

And to their credit, they have now come out and recognized that the evil climate skeptic was actually right, and they are submitting corrections to the study.

This one guy, all of those places looked at it.

All the peer review went on.

They all got it wrong.

This one guy looked at it and said, Wait a minute, that doesn't look right.

Pointed the error out.

And to their credit, they are actually correcting it now.

That's great.

Okay, Catherine Harris is on with us.

I got to take a quick break and then we'll come to her so I don't have to interrupt her

at all because I want to hear what the heck is happening in Florida and she'll have the scoop for us.

Catherine

Harris from

Florida used to be the Secretary of State down in Florida and was in charge and overseeing the elections of 2000.

And we all know how that went.

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It's kind of like deja vu

as we look at a Florida recount.

And I welcome to the program Catherine Harris, a former Florida Secretary of State who oversaw the nonsense that was happening in Florida in 2000.

Catherine, how are you?

I'm so well.

It's so nice to talk to you again.

Really good to talk to you.

So, Catherine, I thought that we

had learned our lesson in Florida.

I think we had.

When I was in the Senate, I tried to to pass election reform, and there wasn't the political will to do it.

But then after being Secretary of State, and we came back and said, we're going to pass election reform, all the media mocked us and said it would never happen.

Well, we did pass my bill plus everything else we learned, testified before Congress.

They said it was the model for election reform, and it's been modified numerous times.

So we have

an extraordinary model for election reform, and we have laws that are sufficient to take us through this.

A lot of this issue has been patience in the process.

We do have have a mandatory recount.

We do have a manual recount if it's 0.25%.

But,

Glenn, this is Florida.

And what I mean by that is not Florida.

Oh, my goodness, we're going to have these problems.

We're not a red state.

We're not a blue state.

We're a purple state.

We're always going to have close elections, and it's not a constitutional crisis.

The laws are going to get us through.

We can legislate this clearly.

We can't legislate integrity.

So, yeah, so here's the problem.

The Brenda Snipes thing from a distance, seems like she shouldn't have been there, you know, a long time ago she should have been fired.

Well, you know, the supervisors of elections, which many of your listeners may not realize, are constitutionally elected officers, meaning that each county elects them and they are solely responsible for their equipment and solely responsible for the organization of the ballot.

Now, the Secretary of State can give input, but they have no authority over them.

Hence, we had Teresa in the butterfly ballot.

Now we have Brenda Snipes.

She can be removed, but only by the governor, not by the Secretary of State.

All right.

So yesterday, they're supposed to have everything in by 3 o'clock this afternoon.

And yesterday, was it Palm Beach or was it Broward that said, oh, our machines are overheating, and now we have to do it all over again?

They are antiquated machines, and they are well aware that they needed to have proper equipment going into this.

Many of the supervisors at Elections Office, I talked with in Sarasota, they said, hey, this midterm is going to be a big deal, and we plan for a presidential election.

So antiquated equipment.

But what's interesting, and this is, I think, what's important,

whenever I was Secretary of State, my only safe harbor was people got tired of me talking about I'm just following the law.

Some of the laws I didn't like, but they were the laws we had at the time.

And our rule of law is our bedrock for our nation.

It restricts

all the arbitrary exercise or abuse of power by making it subordinate to existing laws that are well established and well defined.

So that's the bedrock.

Now,

what frightens me was my personal experience.

We went to the, and people never knew this or recalled it, but we petitioned the Florida Supreme Court immediately after when the recount was going to hit for a statewide recount, and they refused.

The Democrats were more interested in Al Gore's political viability in prolonging what is this first phase called the protest phase.

And by doing so, they short-circuited the opportunity to recount statewide in the contest phase.

So when courts interfere with the law, when politicians interfere, when lawyers interfere, there are unintended consequences.

So here they thought they were being so clever to enhance his political viability, but they short-circuited themselves.

And this is what worries me with these exceptions.

Then

the Florida Supreme Court finally intervened and said, no,

you don't do a statewide recount.

You're just going to count them in these three heavily Democratic counties, and that's going to determine the result for Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade.

In doing so, they ended up losing at the end of the day at the U.S.

Supreme Court because it wasn't equal protection under the law.

But you probably remember Palm Beach came back and said, well, the Florida Supreme Court said you can certify Friday or Sunday.

Sort of an arbitrary edict, but they said you shall.

That's not maybe or sort of.

So we said, while the nation is waiting and we need to get on with this, we're going to wait till Sunday to give everybody

the time and the abundance of caution.

So come Saturday, Palm Beach started saying, We're not going to be ready.

You have to extend.

And honestly, you know, I thought, I can be generous.

I can extend.

But had I extended, I would have broken the law.

so to so today at three is an is that where the judge said you you have to have it done by three and if for some reason someone thinks they're being generous to extend it's just wrong and I'll tell you why you have to follow the law as it's written and I'll make one other point about that but Teresa Laporta in Palm Beach said oh just three hours oh just a day

They hadn't finished counting in three weeks, three months.

They never finished counting.

And I would have broken the law and I would put everything

asunder that I had sought to do in following the letter of the law.

That is the only safe harbor.

Now, as to not following the law,

we have great election laws.

If you don't like them, change them the next legislative cycle as we did in 2000, or rather in 2001.

However,

to come along now and say, oh,

absentee ballot signatures don't have to match the reference in the supervisor's election's office.

That

is breaking the law.

To say, oh no, we want to count every vote, even all the illegals should even count.

Anyone who voted should count, that is breaking the law.

In the last election cycle, felons were not allowed to vote.

In the future, they will.

In the last election cycle, they were not allowed to vote.

If they allow the felons to go through, which there were 42,000 felons on our rolls

in election 2000, if they allow that vote to go through, that is breaking the law.

Just because you don't like it does not mean you don't follow it.

Catherine, follow the law.

Thank you very much for reassuring America that it's not 2000 all over again and it's not out of control.

It's good to talk to you, and we will see this afternoon what Florida decides this afternoon, 3 p.m.

Eastern.

Catherine Harris, former Florida Secretary of State, thanks for for joining us.

Back in a minute.

Glenn back.

The world is completely upside down.

And

when it gets to that point, it's always good to have Rabbi Daniel Lapin around.

Rabbi Lappin is just one of the best guys.

I mean, if you've never heard his podcast, you need to listen to his podcast.

He'll explain why clothing

needs to,

not be unisex?

And he takes you back through history, and he's fantastic.

He's a fantastic teacher.

He is with us now, Rabbi Lappen.

How are you, sir?

Couldn't be better, Glenn.

Thank you very much indeed.

Only

just slightly concerned.

I appreciated your introduction very much indeed.

It was far more than I deserved.

But you did indicate that my prime usefulness is when the world is upside down.

Well, you are in great demand then, right now.

The world has truly unhinged from reality

all around the world.

Nobody is paying attention to things that we should be paying attention to.

China is becoming 1984 a police state beyond anyone, beyond George Orwell's imagining.

They're now into this hemisphere.

They are now bringing that technology to Venezuela.

We have a woman in Pakistan who is a Christian who they're screaming to be beheaded, where the Supreme Court said this is a trumped-up charge.

There is nothing happening.

The Pakistani Supreme Court.

And the UK is afraid to bring them in.

Sharia law is now starting to be a part of the UK.

Then you also just have the fun of the last election.

Well, in passing, let me just drop in one little thing, which may not be relevant to our discussion today.

But when you said the whole world is going crazy, there seems to be an exception.

Large parts of Africa are actually quite sane, and this is a fact.

Ghana, Nigeria,

Zambia, and many, many other places as well.

What I mean by this is that I've recently been doing some speaking in both the United Kingdom and in Switzerland.

I just got back from Switzerland last week.

And in both cases, I have found that there are Christian evangelical churches packed to the rafters, and the leadership is almost always pastors from Africa.

Now this is really fascinating of course because in the 19th century we watched England and Europe bringing the gospel to the so-called dark continent to Africa.

Well Africa is returning the compliment right now and it's it's really a pleasure to talk to to many of these people who are completely free of the infection.

of secular fundamentalism which drives so much of what you're describing in Europe, elsewhere, and even in the United States.

Because you

believe, and we were talking about this the other day.

In fact, let me play an example of it.

Here's a group of people that are out protesting a speech by Ben Shapiro, a bunch of college students.

I want you to listen to

this exchange and help him make sense of this.

Do you think he should speak tonight or no?

No, no, not at all.

About free speech in the Constitution, how does it work?

That's a good point, but

he shouldn't be allowed to have free speech if he's going to preach the kinds of things that he preaches.

Well, what are some of the things that you're talking about, though?

I don't know what he said specifically.

You know what any quotes or anything?

I don't know what he said specifically.

I just don't agree with his platform.

I'm against Ben Shapiro because,

I mean,

it would take a while to describe everything that's wrong with him.

Protesting or four, Ben.

Okay, stop.

So, I mean, perfectly normal, perfectly natural.

This is exactly what would have happened had

a Catholic priest stood up in 720 when the Muslims were sweeping through the Spanish peninsula, and he would have said, hey, I want to give a speech about why Catholicism works.

What would the Muslims have done?

They wouldn't have said, oh, that's an interesting thought.

Why don't we have a symposium on the topic?

They'd have taken off his head.

Right.

And then they convert his church into a mosque and they move on to the next town.

That's what you do.

Look, this is about competing faith systems, literally competing religions.

It is not different from when the Muslims stood at the gates of Vienna in 1683.

And who was it?

It was the king of Poland who actually saved the Western world on that day.

It's not different from any time there have been clashes between competing and incompatible faiths.

Ben Shapiro stands for,

as do you for heaven's sake, for so many years, Glenn,

for a worldview based on a Judeo-Christian biblical model.

And

the mobs on the campus stand for a vision that is based on the Tower of Babel, essentially.

I mean, nine verses at the beginning of chapter 11 in Genesis provide a complete matrix of understanding of the tension that is taking place there.

But of course, they don't want to hear what he says.

Why would they?

Tell me,

quickly go over the nine verses, if you can.

Yeah, no, absolutely.

Look,

there's not a hundred different ways of organizing society.

There are 5,000 different cultures in the world, but they're not 5,000 different civilizations in the world.

You know, of the many lessons my dad taught me, one of them is he used to bring home mechanical clocks that were broken.

To this day,

I still don't know.

Like, did he talk to people and say, hey, you got any clocks that are?

I don't know where he got these things from.

But he used to bring them to me and

suggest I try and repair them.

And

I mean, I still love fiddling with gear wheels and things.

But there was a lesson at the end of the day.

The lesson at the end of the day was there are not 20 different ways of reassembling that clock.

There's only one.

And the idea that there are lots and lots and lots of different civilizations, all equally as good as one another is not one that merely I disagree with.

But all those folks who drown in the Mediterranean struggling to get from Africa to Europe, well, they also agree with that view.

And all the people who recognize that there's no illegal immigration problem in

Kinshasa and no illegal immigration problem in Saudi Arabia.

And guess what?

No one's struggling to break through the borders of Pakistan.

I haven't noticed any caravans moving towards those borders.

Everybody agrees that the civilization that was created by the West provides the ultimate in freedom from misery.

It provides the ultimate in terms of medical achievement, scientific achievement, economic achievement.

And there are not a lot of ways of making that happen.

So how do you, when you are dealing with a religion, which I think you're right,

this is now religious fervor you either believe it or they crucify you yes they burn you at the stake they will destroy you I don't know how scientists even and that girl just lacked the words I mean what she was really trying to say was I don't care what Ben says he's a heretic right that's all there is to it and and I don't I don't see how they don't realize they've that they have not they're not Galileo anymore they're the Catholic Church yeah that's absolutely right look what distinguishes a religion from a tennis club and And really only one thing, and that is that it answers three transcendent questions of life.

Essentially, the most important one, how did life arrive on this planet?

You know, here we are on the sort of remote speck of dust in a remote galaxy in a limitless universe.

And although we've been searching avidly, spending vast amounts of your tax money and mine trying to find other life in outer space, which is, you know, something that would be fantastic, because then it could prove that this really was a random occurrence.

But at the moment, so far, we've only got life on this planet.

You've got to answer the question of how we got there.

And there are only two doctrines to explain that, and both are religious doctrines.

Neither is provable.

If they were, there wouldn't be any debate any longer.

One is that a good and loving God created us in his image and placed us here.

That's one view.

The other view is by a lengthy process of unaided materialistic evolution, primitive protoplasm turned into plumbers and proctologists or whatever.

I mean,

and one shouldn't laugh at other people's belief systems because that's rude.

But that's really what this is all about.

And everything flows from how you answer those two, that basic question.

Secular fundamentalism has become the official state religion in America.

It's certainly the religion of the temple of American culture, the university campus.

And that's why the battles are being fought over there on the campus.

So did you say you were over in England?

Yes, I was recently.

This thing with Asia Beebe is very disturbing.

Are you following that?

Yes, I am.

Okay, so

this is the woman who has been in prison over in Pakistan for nine years on trumped-up charges.

She was supposed to be executed.

The Supreme Court looked at her case over in Pakistan.

They said

this was a mistake, a travesty of justice.

They released her.

She's now under government protection, which you can't really trust that for very long.

She's asked the U.K.

for shelter and refugee status.

They will not give it to her because they said she'd cause probably too many

disruptions and civil unrest in the United Kingdom.

As I'm looking at the United Kingdom, Rabbi Lappin, you've got the Labor Party being investigated for anti-Semitism.

You have

all of the police, it seems, and all of the government structures hiding

from

the bad element of the Islamists and hiding the bad element from others.

Yes.

I mean, how close are we to losing England?

Well, I thought, very close indeed, until I had a chance.

I spoke for 22 churches in 21 days.

And

I had expected, I didn't fully understand.

I thought I was being put in front of English Anglican churches.

I wasn't.

You walk into most Anglican churches in the United Kingdom and there's three half with sitting in the pews because they've got nowhere else to be.

Correct.

So like going to church in New York,

they're art galleries now.

Oh, no, it's a jar.

It's jars.

That's right.

But

I spoke for Hillsong Church in London, 10,000 people sitting there.

And so it was in every church I spoke.

So, look, I personally believe, being as this is a struggle between two competing belief systems,

I do think that the only hope is not political but religious.

Because we know back till the year 2000, even the New York Times agreed that the most reliable correlation

of Republican voters was regular church attendance.

And so I do think that in the same way that we saw a huge religious reawakening in America fuel the War of Independence and we saw a second religious reawakening propel the abolition of slavery, I think we're looking forward.

I'm looking forward.

I mean, I don't want to sound like an Orthodox rabbi singing onward Christian soldiers, but

I'm looking forward to a third religious reawakening because when people's hearts change, so do their politics.

So you and I have been friends for I don't even know how long now, and you are

you're so friendly to the Christians, and I hope to be as friendly to Jews as you are to Christians.

And we both know that Martin Luther King was right, and you got to change people's hearts.

But

how do you do that in a world where

So much is justified, the pushback, you know, people have had enough.

They've had enough, and it's become insane.

And if you don't push back, they're going to steamroll you.

I think that's why Donald Trump won.

He won because he was not afraid to have somebody say something bad about him, and he was going to fight fire with fire.

That's why I supported him.

Yeah, absolutely.

No question about it.

So, how do we not

lose our decency in that?

Look, Glenn,

I don't want to sound insincere

or flattering at all, but I'm talking the truth when I say that

this is something you've been doing all along.

You remember our get-together in Utah, and

there have been so many of the get-togethers.

Bringing together like-minded people, I think, is the clue.

I think it happens in evangelical churches in America.

It happens in Orthodox synagogues.

But it doesn't have to take place in a specifically religious environment, as Donald Trump showed, and as you've been doing for much longer.

When people come together at the mall, you remember that great event you put together, and I was so honored to be there.

People happen to be people

in general.

If we would have said to those people, look, you may not have thought about this, but we're putting you on the spot.

You absolutely have to tell us which of these two arguments do you prefer?

People were put here, created in God's image and put here by God, or people grew up out of primitive slime into chimpanzees and then people.

You've got to pick which one is closer.

The overwhelming majority of people who were in Utah or at the mall or anywhere else, anywhere else that you gather, large crowds of people,

would have said, well,

yeah, we're on the side of God created.

I can't prove it, don't know, but But if you force me to make a decision, I'm on that side.

That's what the majority of people would have said.

On the university campus, the majority of people will say the other side.

And

one of my books is called America's Real War, which you did a great deal to popularize years ago,

when we spoke about it on one of the shows.

I'm reissuing that book with new chapters because here's the big missing piece.

You've got to explain the strange and bizarre alliance between radical Islam and American liberalism.

What are these two groups got to do with what?

Well, the answer is everything.

And that's crucial to understand.

Rabbi Lappin, always good to talk to you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

And we'll talk to you again.

Rabbi Lapin is actually in.

We're going to do a 90-minute podcast with him.

It'll be coming up in the next few weeks.

And we are going to probably start that podcast right where you left off.

Oh, okay.

What do those two things have in common?

Sounds good.

All right.

Thank you, Rabbi.

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We have about two minutes.

Is that enough time?

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Do you want me to jump in?

Yeah, go ahead.

So archaeologists have found

a tunnel beneath a pyramid in the ancient city of Teotihuacan in Mexico, and they believe that this is

a tunnel associated with the underworld.

I should say, this is what the archaeologists are saying.

It's associated with the underworld.

But the headlines are, scientists have found a tunnel to the underworld.

And my thought is put...

a railway in it.

I think we've already got,

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Go ahead and put a rail system through it.

I would,

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Wait, so the scientists are saying it has something to do with the underworld?

What is this?

In the sense that like Egyptian pyramids oftentimes have to do with the underworld, you know, of like preparing you for the afterlife and that kind of thing.

Essentially, what they believed was going on.

So it was like a highway someplace that they hoped people didn't.

walk along very far because you'd get to the end and go,

so

this actually doesn't lead anywhere.

It could be.

It could be that there was some false advertisement.

Yeah.

Or maybe they plugged it up.

I don't know.

We'll see what happens.

So you think if...

They built a wall.

They built a wall

to the underworld.

The ghost immigrants are going to be.

What does the underworld look like to you?

Do you think?

I can tell you exactly what hell looks like to me.

Hell is a post office at 95% humidity.

That's it.

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I hate postal employees.

Are you standing in line?

I'm standing in line.

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I think they're decent people.

It's just that there are these really long lines, and it's, and I still haven't figured out the postage.

And I just, oh, like, I just, I get so irritated, and I don't like humidity either.

So, that, yeah, humid, humid, waiting in line at the post office.

And I'm waiting to mail my application to leave hell.

So, okay, so, so, what you should say then is: scientists have found in Mexico

a post office underneath one of the pyramids.

Uh, so we know.

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And, you know, you're going to be hanging out with us, and Chuck Norris is going to be there.

And

I don't know, a whole bunch of other people.

I heard there's armadillo racing is this true that was last year I don't think we're doing armadillo racing this year sorry you missed it that was last year you never know what is in store

but anyway so we have now all of the people who bought a raffle ticket in that big barrel thing so if you would just kind of Andrew if you just kind of mix them up I'm doing the kind of Vanna White titanium yeah you just uh

you're really good at that and then we're gonna call this person and uh you know see if they want to come because they may just say uh no I don't no I really don't want to come okay that's okay that's good now now just reach in there and uh i'm doing the honor yeah well okay it would require me to get up and i'm not that's not something we're interested in doing at this time in our lives we don't really move or any time in our lives yeah okay

so who's the winner the the winner is christy solano does it say where she's from 2102.

Okay, so

Kira and Brad stayed up all night putting all of the stuff into the computer.

So if you can give me that number and then let's get that to the control room and then

let's call them up and see if they're there and if they'll come.

I think I'm going to have to dial more than just 2102, though.

I don't think that's going to even work.

No, they all know where they're.

They all know where they're.

So, do you have Palm Desert, California?

Palm Desert, California.

Wow.

Where is it?

So now you're importing more Californians into Texas?

No, but this one has a round trip.

Okay, that's good.

She's going to take one back with her.

Yeah.

Swing by Austin.

Yeah,

you win two tickets here, three tickets back, and you have to find somebody from California to take back.

So we're going to get her on the phone.

Could you just have this, run that into the control room and have somebody else dial it up?

I mean, this phone has buttons on it.

I don't know how to use that.

You should get a rotary phone.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You have people to dial phones for you, obviously.

You don't do that yourself.

You know, you have somebody that calls and they say, stand by for Glenn Beck.

I feel like phones are now, any phone calls like an exercise in public speaking,

particularly if you're under 30.

Have you noticed that?

Because it's like, like, I can make a phone call, but like, it's, it's scary for a lot of people if you call them on the phone.

They're like, they're, they're, why did you call me?

Is it possible they're just scared of you calling them?

Is that a

that would explain why so many of my friends put their phones in their fridge when I call them so that it blocks out any signal?

Yeah, that would be.

I didn't know that the phone, that the fridge did that, but I guess you're right.

It's like a Faraday cage.

Right.

I'd love a man who knows a good Faraday cage.

I've built myself a Faraday cage.

I've got a touch of prepper in it.

All right, good.

So when we get this person on the phone, I'd like you to help

just to see if they really want to come and let's find out about them.

Because

you're really good at...

What's the name, Joy?

Was that the name?

What was the name right in front of me?

Christy Solano.

Christy Solano.

Don't know where I got Joy, but Christy Solano.

Okay, so when she gets on the phone, we want.

What separate conversation is happening in your head?

I don't know.

You're talking to someone named Joy.

I am at the same time you're doing this show.

So

because you're good at

just breaking the ice with people.

Thank you.

Good conversation starter.

Thank you.

I have a whole list of questions I like to pose to people when I'm getting to know them.

All right.

Nope.

No, don't have her.

Okay, so get her on.

Like you came to me with, what was this?

Oh, this is okay.

So

somebody posed this question to me last week because I've taken up swing dancing.

And somebody had this question.

It's a great question.

If you could have a different liquid shoot out of every finger on your right hand, what liquids would you pick?

That's a great question right there.

Okay, so we have Christy on the phone.

Hello, Christy.

Hello.

Ready to have fun right now.

Christy, it's Glenn Beck.

How are you?

Good, thanks.

Christy,

did you know that you entered

a lottery yesterday?

Yes.

And you were pretty passionate about it?

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Sounds it.

Yeah.

Are you okay?

First of all, you're in California.

Is anything on fire around you?

No, I'm about like an hour away.

You're about an hour away.

And you live where in California?

Near Palm Springs.

Oh, wow.

So it's nice

here all the time just to rub our face in it.

Right.

Well, it gets hot in the summer.

Okay.

Yeah, well, it gets hot as hell here, too, so it doesn't make it any better.

So, Christy, you've actually won the trip, you and a guest,

to come and join us and be with us on Saturday.

Oh, really?

Wow.

Because I'm leaving tomorrow for Hawaii.

You're leaving tomorrow for Hawaii.

Christy has an awesome idea.

So, Christy, should we draw again?

Yes, I know, unfortunately.

Okay, so we'll draw again.

Well,

I'm bummed.

Can I come to Hawaii with you?

Is that possible?

That's an idea.

That's a way we can solve it.

I can't believe I'm really talking to you guys.

I listen to you every single morning.

Well, good.

It didn't sound like that when we first got.

Right.

Okay.

We thought someone scammed you and made a donation on your behalf.

Right.

I thought you were doing that to me.

You were actually like Dr.

Ford.

Somebody put you in, and you hate us.

But anyway, that's a

different story.

Okay, well, Chris.

Oh, I was thinking you were telling me I won the car already.

No, no, no.

I mean, you would have come here for the car over Hawaii, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

But you are back in the drawing

for the car.

Okay?

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Well, thank you.

Thank you.

God bless.

She wins the car, too, then.

And then she's like, ah, you know, I actually was driving to another dealership in just a moment.

Yeah, I just want to vote for my trip to Hawaii.

I don't know if I need to.

I don't think I've ever, I mean, I've done this for 40-some years, and I don't think I've ever had a winner that excited.

That was definitely a pre-cup of coffee winner right there.

All right, all right.

Draw again here.

But it was like, it's like, what, eight o'clock in the morning over there, seven o'clock in the morning over there?

So let me ask you this.

So did anybody else pick lava?

I think you're the only lava person.

I think you're the only lava person.

So out of the five fingers,

I'd like coke, water.

But I'd like to have one and probably right out of the middle finger, lava, hot lava.

So when you flip someone off, I can cover them in hot lava.

It's violent.

It's violent.

No, it's really not.

You're the only person you picked death but then

everyone else picked like, I don't know, daiquiris or something.

You pick liquid multiple.

Well,

I am an alcoholic.

So I can't.

You got to be careful.

Yeah, I can't drink my woes away.

I have to cover it in hot lava.

Shall I tell you the next name?

Yeah, yeah.

This is Angela Angelilo.

Angela Angelino.

That's great.

Angelilo name.

Angelilo.

Yeah.

Angela, give it.

And it's number 2355.

All right, good.

So if that's your number, lucky number.

We're calling you now at 2355.

Oh, we asked them for their pin numbers on each one, on each entry.

So we've been giving out pin numbers.

Oh, nice.

We're sorry.

Nice mana.

Angelina

name, let's be honest about it.

That does seem like a fake name.

It really does.

Smith Smithens.

Where's she from?

From Illinois.

Oh, now we're going to hear her.

She's going to

California.

And she was going to Hawaii.

And not excited.

Illinois,

let me out of that rat-infested.

I'd love to come down to Texas.

That's what I think is happening.

It's probably cold there right now, too, right?

Yeah.

Because of the globe.

You're good at this.

Because of the globe.

Are you a meteorologist?

I played a weatherman one time in a sketch comedy video.

So what would you have as your five fingers?

Thank you for asking.

In my preface, the reason that this is a great question, by the way, is I think so much of the time when you talk to people, we're on autopilot, where you meet someone and it's like, hey, what do you do?

You know, I'm an insurance program, and you're no longer having a conversation.

This forces people to think, and you can see the gears spinning around their head as they're thinking about it.

That's why this is a great question.

This also could be one of the reasons why he's still single at 35.

Yeah, this is probably not the best opener

with young ladies.

Hang on just a second.

We have Angela Angelino on the phone.

Angelolo.

And Angelo.

Pretty close.

Go ahead.

Say it for me.

One more time.

Angela Angelolo.

All right, you.

Angelolo.

You need a Jay.

Was that a married name or is that the name you're hearing?

It is a married name.

I have the perfect husband.

Can you believe that?

Wow, that's amazing.

So, Angela, what do you do for a living?

By the way, hello.

I'm Glenn.

Hi.

Hi.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

Listen to your previous caller who cannot make it.

And guess what?

Right.

Were you kind of when you heard her?

Is she going to Hawaii?

She's bailing too.

She's going to Hawaii with the other person.

So, Angela, when you heard her, were you like, oh, I would have been excited?

Yes, definitely.

Why did you hesitate?

I'm excited.

But I cannot make it.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

Where are you going?

Are you going to Hawaii, too?

No, I'm not.

And you know what?

I was there at your first one with my son.

Oh, you're kidding me.

Oh, wow.

No.

Wow.

No.

You know, you've been doing this for 40 years, Scott.

And as soon as Andrew Heaton gets involved in the process, now no one can hear.

I'm worried that we're going to be doing this for an hour and a half.

All right.

I'm going to feel really bad after calling number 45.

Just have you calling.

If you bought a raffle ticket and you want to come, what do you call it?

All right.

Well,

Angela, it's good talking to you.

Thank you so much.

I'm sorry that you can't come, and I'm going to put your name back in.

But say hi to your son.

Thank you very much, Glenn.

All right.

God bless.

God bless.

Okay.

You got another one?

Yep.

Jodie Coley.

Jodi Coley.

2529.

All right.

And here's the secret to this one.

If she doesn't want to to come, I don't want to hear from her.

Just don't answer the phone.

Just have to.

Just don't answer the phone.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

So we'll call her.

Let me just take a quick break and then we'll come back and we'll get to the five liquids that

that's what people want to hear.

Yeah, they want to hear.

Because I've thought about this.

Yeah.

So what would you have shoot out of the five fingers if you could have liquid shoot out?

And we'll find out if Jodi actually wants to go.

Was her name Jodi?

Yes.

Yes.

Jodi Cole.

Yeah, Jodi Coley.

We'll find out if she actually wants to come and spend any time at all with any of us.

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All right, so we called

Jodi

Coley, and Jodi is,

well, she can't make it.

She's going to go see A Star is Born this weekend.

Because it's going to be out of theaters soon.

Well, she said,

if it was the second week open, I'd know that it would still be there next week.

You said we have theaters here playing it.

We can actually send you while you're here.

She strangely said no.

It's probably 3D.

It's probably one of those 3D theaters in Chicago

where the guitar strings kind of come right out at the end of the day.

Exactly.

It's either that or drugs.

So you got to do the 3D version.

So Jodi, actually, we couldn't get a hold of Jodi, so we're going to continue to try to call her at home, you know, assuming that

she wants this prize, which I thought was pretty good, quite honestly.

A lot of people entered.

A lot of people had a really big response to it.

Apparently against their will in some form or another.

Like a lot of people who had enemies bought tickets so they would be forced to get a business.

Or they were buying or they were buying it going, I'm going to do a good cause.

I don't want that prize.

I think, yeah, especially an enemy's gala sounds amazing.

Everyone you bring just

bristling.

That could be really fun.

It could be fun.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, so anyway, so you're really good at talking to anybody.

Thank you.

You know, especially if you don't care if they like you afterwards.

Yeah, you got to.

So

what are the five liquids that you have?

Five liquids.

So thumb, I'm going to have gasoline come out.

That's a no-brainer.

You just get up in the morning, plug it into your car, you're good to go, right?

That's good.

So gasoline, I'm going to go with miso soup because now I've got a pretty good.

No, miso soup's delicious.

And also, yeah, it's great.

And also, I mean,

out of all of the soup, miso soup, the one with the black, isn't that the one with the squares of tofu floating around in it?

Yeah, well, you could have

chili.

You could have chili's pretty.

You could have

really good beef solid.

Are we calling chili a solid or a liquid?

Because I feel like it's kind of in an intermediate state here.

That would clog your finger, I think.

Yeah, I think that's, you don't want to get finger clogged.

So I'm thinking, I'm thinking.

Well, then you're having broth.

Miso soup without all the the rest of just broth.

I'm going to have coffee.

That would be great.

Really good coffee.

And then I, you know, I like scotch, but I don't want it coming out of my finger because there could be some bad stuff that would happen if I had unmitigated access to scotch.

So instead of.

But gasoline is fine.

Well, I'm not going to drink the gasoline.

Well, no.

They're always going to smell like gasoline.

I'm going to get some oranges and gasoline and sit down next to the fireplace.

I'm going to go with plasma because they're usually looking for plasma all the time, you know?

So I could go swing by the plasma bank, give them some plasma.

This seems like a nice thing to do.

So it's got a charity.

Your pinky fingers, a little charitable.

No, that's my ring finger.

I don't know.

It's your ring finger.

What do you think?

Pinky finger.

I've lost this one.

Maybe, maybe like a bourbon I don't like.

That way I could be a good host

without being worried about consuming too much alcohol myself.

You've not taken advantage of the situation at all.

The only good idea there was gasoline.

Gasoline is miso soup is a terrible thing.

What about Chipotle sauce instead of the bourbon?

I mean, that's better.

I think that's better because that's going to be a little bit more versatile.

Yeah, okay, I like that.

By the way, you live in a capitalist society.

You already have unlimited access to all sorts of sky.

I want to lug a backpack around like I lost a war.

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