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Have you noticed that the press is not concerned at all about this caravan?

They say this caravan's not going to make it up to the United States.

This is just nonsense.

And why are they talking about it now?

Really?

So is the caravan a political message or a weapon?

The 7,000 strong migrant caravan now appears to be both.

We know that this migrant invasion force was organized in Honduras by the leftist political party looking to embarrass the current right-wing government.

We know that.

You're not going to hear that on television.

You're not going to hear that from the leftist mainstream news.

You won't hear it because that hurts their case.

They want everybody to look like they're just weak and helpless and children.

Making a 2,500 mile march?

Wow, that seems pretty strong to me.

This entire charade has been one giant political stunt.

But the question on my mind is, who's paying for this?

Moving 7,000 people is incredibly expensive and difficult.

What about the people who can't make it to 25 miles or 2,500 miles?

What about the people who might have heat stroke, might sprangle,

you know, have

an accident, break their leg, sprain their ankle?

What happens to them?

Is there any medical treatment?

You would think that the left would be really,

really, really intent on finding who's providing the water,

who's providing the food, how are these people, you're not just going into a town with 7,500 people and everybody going to a restaurant.

How are these people eating?

Is there no heart on the left?

Can somebody tell me I'm concerned about their health?

I'm concerned about their welfare.

I'm concerned about their health care.

How do you move 7,000 people and not have people starve?

How do you move 7,000 people and not have people need water?

Basic sanitary conditions.

What is happening?

How about the children?

How about the babies that are in strollers?

Are those strollers built for a 2,500-mile march?

Shouldn't somebody, shouldn't CNN be down there asking the questions raising the money for better strollers

these poor children

now who could write this check

who is writing the check for all of this well I asked Governor Abbott about it yesterday in an interview who's funding all this He hinted that the Trump administration was fully aware.

Now, my question is, did Mike Pence let the cat out of the bag yesterday from the Oval Office?

Mike Pence, our vice president, said, quote, at the president's direction, I spoke to President Hernandez of Honduras.

He told me that the caravan that is now making its way through Mexico, headed for our southern border, is organized by leftist organizations and financed by Venezuela.

This isn't Donald Trump.

This isn't Mike Pence.

This is the president of Honduras.

Now that puts this caravan into a completely different context, doesn't it?

This caravan of poor migrant workers

has suddenly become an invasion force

financed by a radical revolutionary Marxist in the president of Venezuela.

So it seems to be perhaps more than just a Honduran political message.

This is a weaponized attack.

But I know CNN doesn't want to cover that.

Can you just please find out?

Do they have enough water?

Who's bringing that water in?

Can you please have some compassion and just find out who's feeding these people?

Who's caring for their medical needs on a 2,500-mile journey.

Can you please find that out for the love of humanity?

I pointed out on multiple occasions the caravan organizers have ties to both Castro and Maduro in Venezuela and Cuba.

This new information from Mike Pence makes sense.

If you're Venezuelan President Maduro, you want to attack the United States, but you barely have enough money to buy any toilet paper.

How do you do it?

Well, you don't use conventional means.

You reach out to your allies, your revolutionaries, your Marxist zealots in South America, and you organize and fund thousands of people to flood the U.S.

border.

It's a pretty inventive way to strike back.

Not only is it a form of economic warfare, but it also destabilizes the U.S.

political structure.

And that's not to mention how many criminal elements might be tagging along.

How many Venezuelan or Cuban spies are using this as cover to enter our country?

How many terrorists might be riding along with the intention of attacking the U.S.

targets?

Reports this morning are saying that more than two caravans,

two more caravans are currently forming.

One in El Salvador and now one in Guatemala.

To use a military term, are we being attacked in waves?

Was the first caravan of 7,000 just the first wave?

How many more will we see?

And if this allegation is correct, there is no other way to describe it.

The United States is under attack.

It's Wednesday, October 24th.

Oh my gosh, Glenbeck.

Glenbeck is...

He's such a conspiracy theorist.

Now I say that

we're being attacked.

And these poor little...

I know, I know.

So I'm really with you.

I only said those things because

the Zionist had a gun to my head, and I had to say them.

Now I'm free from my Zionist masters.

So let me just say this to the mainstream media.

Please.

Please find out if they have enough water.

And now that water is getting to those 7,000.

Please find out if they have enough food.

Who's providing that food for them?

Because I want to hold them up on my shoulders.

I want to be able to say, look at this.

Generosity.

They're scheduling the trucks and paying for the trucks to move the food and the water.

And the sanitary conditions.

Please, please, CNN, please, just for

humanitarian reasons.

Please find out.

Welcome to the program, Stu.

Also,

we welcome Jason.

Now, I don't know which one it is.

I'm certainly not going to help you.

I'm not going to help you.

Jason, what?

What's his last name?

I know his last name, but I mean, you know who he is.

I never know how to pronounce it now because I can't remember which one's right and which one's wrong.

How many years has he worked for you?

A long time, huh?

I don't recall.

Various different roles.

I don't recall.

Good close friend, I would say, is how I work with you.

Jason Buttrell is with us now.

Wrong one.

Jason Buttrell is with us now.

Okay, okay.

I got it now.

All I have to do is concentrate on butt.

There you go.

There you go.

Jason Buttrill is with us.

Jason Buttrell is with us now.

It's the same word, it's just different

emphasis.

That's all it is.

You should just, I don't know, maybe pick the right emphasis.

All right.

Okay.

Thank you.

Stu

just not my name.

And Jason, welcome to the program.

Jason has been following this caravan thing

for quite a while, and we've been talking about the use of this tactic for, I don't know, years.

This is what they're doing to the Israelis.

They are attacking the Israeli borders, and what do they do?

The Israelis respond, but the media only

covers the response, not the attack.

And they never look into who's really funding all of this.

It's just, oh, poor Palestinian children want to come over.

No, that's not what it is.

That's not what it is.

And it appears more and more that that's not what this is either.

Jason.

Right.

And this is something that's, it's kind of amazing when you look at how the media just doesn't cover the things or they don't look in the directions they're supposed to be looking at.

And it's amazing to me that our small little media footprint here, we were the only ones to point this out long before anybody else even started catching on.

Like, you were the first one.

I think this was like two and a half weeks ago or something like that.

That said, wait a minute, who are these guys that are organizing all this?

And when we dug into it, we were like, wow, these are like radical leftists.

These are radical leftists with ties to both Maduro and to Raul Castro in Cuba.

And

the former

head of state for Honduras, who was

surprise, surprise,

Barack Obama said was a coup.

Well, no, it was the Supreme Court that said of Honduras that said, the president is acting unconstitutional.

He is trying to change the Constitution so we can have a military state under his rule.

So the Supreme Court said, arrest him and kick him out.

That's what happened.

That's what happened.

Now, they're unhappy about that.

Now, can you tell me a little bit about ALBA?

Because most people don't know about ALBA.

Yeah, so when

that now deposed leftist Marxist president,

just before he was deposed, he was working on with both Venezuela and Cuba this massive, like, I want to call it like a European Union type alliance within South America.

And it was called ALBA, and it was called the, I think the acronym was something wrong the lines of the Alliance for the Bolivarian people of our America.

So that was supposed to be the check to U.S.

power to rise up in South America.

And yeah, our America.

And they were going to have their own currency.

I don't know about maybe military agreements

possibly could have followed.

I mean, there were big plans for this.

I also want to point out that one of the key observers, you know how like in international season, international agreements, trade agreements, you have like key outside observers.

One of them, their main one, was Iran, who is also a an

ally of Venezuela.

Keep that in mind for a little bit later in this discussion when we talk about about possible people who are tagging along in some of these caravans.

Okay, we're going to get to that here in just a second.

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If you have watched and listened to this program and read the things that we have written, you're not surprised and you are way ahead of the game of what's going on with this caravan.

Let's give you some additional information because

it's very important what Mike Pence said yesterday.

Mike Pence came out in the Oval Office and said, this is being funded by Venezuela.

Now, the mainstream press, they're not going to do anything but ridicule that.

But this makes sense.

It makes perfect sense, and it does sound crazy when you first hear about it.

Like, if you're not, if you don't know the backstory, you're like, Venezuela, you know, like, oh, here we go again.

They can't afford anything.

Yeah, they're just blaming something on the country so we can get involved or whatever, you know, or yeah, or how do they even have the money to do this?

But it makes perfect sense when you hear when you put it into the context of the relationship that Honduras had with both Venezuela and Cuba.

It makes absolutely perfect sense.

In particular, these

group that started this caravan, they are the group that is that backed the ousted Marxist

radical president that was ousted in Honduras.

Right.

And they're they still have a like populist avenue to go toward.

Like their goal, their stated goal is still to restore that president back to power.

And he was, and they do have kind of a case there and an international case because he was democratically elected.

So really, if they can make such a firestorm, such a big media uprising over this, get international support and backing, they could technically eventually try and get this guy back into power.

But that is their goal.

And that's where this started.

And I think that's where Honduras, this party, these people in Honduras, why they originally organized this.

But Venezuela also has other

reasons to be behind this.

Now, if you, I mean, you think about it, just was a few months ago, Venezuelan President Maduro just survived an assassination attempt.

And he blamed the United States.

He blamed the United States for

backing those people.

He blames the United States for the economic warfare for basically all the things that are wrong with them.

It's not socialism.

It's the United States' fault that socialism is not working, not the theory behind it.

So he blames us for all these things.

So if you are Maduro, you want to strike back.

They just tried to kill you, in his words.

How do you do it when you can't compete with the United States in a conventional manner?

You have to go non-conventional ways.

And you have to understand, too, that it was the ousting of the Honduran presidency.

The guy this caravan supports.

When he was ousted, the first thing the new government did, or one of the first things the new government did, was get out of the ALBA agreement, which was agreements of, hey, we're going to prop each other up.

So as soon as Honduras pulled out away from Venezuela, that hurt them economically.

Big time.

So he's got a double reason for doing this.

This is huge.

And this is huge.

So you really need to look at it through that lens.

They have a gigantic political and future economic reasoning behind all this.

There's a very big plan in place to do all this.

I mentioned before that Iran and both Syria were big-time observers of this economic union.

And a lot of people have been focusing on, well, what if ISIS gets into this

group or whatever?

You mentioned the possibility of Cuban intelligence, Venezuelan intelligence, which I think is probably 90% likely that they are a part of this caravan.

But also

through Iran, Hezbollah, Hezbollah could be all in this caravan.

I have no information on that and no intelligence behind it.

But because of all the actors, because of everyone involved, and because of the people that are supporting this.

Venezuela, Iran.

Right.

Got it.

You could be, Hezbollah would be my, if I'm in a U.S.

intelligence operative, I'm looking for Hezbollah links.

you know, inside this caravan.

And I guarantee you, the U.S.

intelligence agencies are all over this.

I'm sure we've infiltrated this.

That's why when the vice president of the United States says that, oh, the Honduran president told me this, he's not reporting on hearsay.

Like that would be hearsay unless they seriously have something behind it.

I fully think that he knows.

I think I heard your interview with Governor Abedee yesterday.

Yeah, he knew.

He knew as well.

He knew.

And of course, that's something he would not come out and say, oh, Venezuela is behind this.

The governor of Texas is not going to say that.

But I do think Vice President Pence tipped his hand on that.

I fully think that they're behind this.

Now, the question now is, how does this escalate?

You mentioned waves of attacks.

We already know there's a caravan forming in El Salvador.

There's a caravan forming in Guatemala.

And who are they forming?

Who's forming them?

We don't know the organizers yet, but those are all on the same border, all with Honduras.

So the same people, that Liberty and Refoundation Party, look that up when you're looking these things up and doing your own homework.

Liberty and Re-Foundation Party in Honduras.

I would not be surprised if we hear more names in El Salvador, in Guatemala, forming these caravans, because the Honduras border was shut down pretty heavily.

They cracked down on that border, so they can't send more people from Honduras anymore.

So they're probably going, those allies in El Salvador and Guatemala are probably just forming them in their border countries.

And the press won't look into this.

In fact, the press is downplaying this now.

And the reason why is because they know this is a nightmare for Democrats in the election.

This is an absolute nightmare.

The buildup to it.

What What happens on the border may actually work to their advantage politically because you'll have the big bad American soldiers standing up.

But the build-up before the border, they are saying this is a conspiracy.

We don't know where they're headed.

Yes, yes, we do.

Yes, we do.

We know what their intent is to cross our border en masse.

You need to start demanding and tweeting that press looks into the humanitarian issues of this caravan who's providing the water and the medical care because we're all very concerned about this caravan who is paying for the food the water and emergencies

I'm just looking at

I mean do these do these Honduran kids this is the stuff and you know NBC and ABC and and and CNN should be looking into.

Do they have any bob strollers for the kids?

Because

those are built to last.

Yeah, a jogging stroller, off-road, big tires.

Yeah, you need that.

You can't go on a 2,500-mile track with just any stroller.

You know, those little umbrella strollers are just going to fail in the first 800, 900 miles.

And then what happens?

And then what happens?

Then you're going to have to get a baby Bjorn and you're going to have to toss the kid in that thing.

And that's going to, you know,

I think over a couple thousand miles, your back would not be able to handle that.

Yeah, yeah.

Or you can get the Silver Cross Aston Martin 2.

That stroller is about $5,000.

I hope they have that.

That should last.

That should last.

That should last.

And look, these poor migrants are going to have those.

They likely already have them.

Right.

Well,

I don't know.

You don't think?

Well, I don't see a lot of women or children, actually, in most of the photos.

Pat is joining us now from Pat Gray Unleashed, now precedes.

Lynn, have you not seen this photo of all

these children?

Look at the 12-year-old children.

Okay, they all look

everybody in that picture.

Looks like they're a 25-year-old male.

I mean, according to the U.S.

government, you're a child until you're 26.

Okay.

Look at these children.

They're all probably 20 to 30-year-old children.

And there's probably, what, 300 in this photo?

I'm scanning.

I don't see.

I see a lot of children, but no women.

No women in this photo.

At all.

And when you say you see a lot of children, you see no children.

I see no children.

I see no children.

Okay.

Yeah, we should point out you're

in a 26-year-old definition, you see a few children, but that's the only way you see children.

I'll tell you the other endearing thing to me

is the waving of the carrying for 2,000 miles of the Honduran flag.

Yeah.

Amen.

It's really nice.

The fact that they're fleeing their country because it's so poorly run and so violent.

No, that's not why they're fleeing.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Why are they fleeing?

Oh, they're fleeing as a political statement because

there was an overthrow of their government.

Their particular candidate who was president, because

he was trying to change the Constitution and the Supreme Court of Honduras, said illegal, arrest him

and exile him.

No.

No?

No, no, no.

No, I am looking at this politico article that explains the facts on the character.

Oh, good.

Okay, here are the facts.

Yeah, the facts are.

From politico.

What's the the principal reason migrants are traveling to the U.S.?

Right.

Right.

And you said something about what?

Some dictator, communist, what was your little rant there?

Yeah, this is a

revolutionary party.

He's despicable.

He is.

He used to.

Okay, so what do they say?

Wow.

What's the real truth?

The real reason is experts cite violence, poverty, and family connections in the U.S.

as the primary forces driving migrants from Honduras, as well as the possibility they might be able to remain once they arrive.

Look, you're talking about people who are facing violence.

Violence.

People who are very poor.

Very poor.

Who are already connected through their families to the United States, and they just want the possibility that they might be able to remain once they arrive.

Wow.

What is this guy saying?

He's talking about communism over here?

Mr.

Communist.

I'm dead.

I'm asking you that.

The 1980s call.

They want their foreign affairs service back.

They want all their ideas from the Reagan years back.

It's not Rocky IV anymore.

Ivan Drago, is he going to come hurt you?

I just want the mainstream media just to check on the children.

Yes.

Just could you do some reports on how are they,

who's taking care of the medical care?

Yeah.

Who is taking care of the food for 7,000 people?

The diapers.

The diapers involved

with the infants.

The sanitary conditions must be extraordinary.

How are they sleeping?

How are they moving?

Somebody, because I want to help.

I want to help.

I just need to know if Shepherd Smith showed where they were sleeping.

They're sleeping on the pavement, and it's burning hot pavement that they're sleeping on.

And

where are they getting the water?

Because you can't take 7,500 people into a small town, you know, and go into the 7-Eleven and say, hey, we need

you know, 14,000 bottles of water.

You can't?

No, no, one for right now because I'm a little thirsty.

We haven't had a drink in 200 miles.

So I'm going to take one for the road.

One for the road for everybody and one for a drink now.

Yeah, I just need 14,000 bottles of water.

I'm sure the Stuckeys that they're stopping at probably has 14,000 bottles of water.

Okay, yeah.

So I'm sure they just stop at Stuckeys

along the way, pick up their supplies.

You keep saying something about a political stunt.

You keep talking about

the funding.

Well, you want to hear it.

No, the supply

chain.

Well, they're right here.

Oh, okay.

All these questions about, oh, where they got that from?

Who organized or caused the caravan?

Bartolo Fuentes.

Bartolo Fuentes initially organized it.

In an October 4th, Facebook post, he shared a graphic promoting a migrant march.

The graphic told migrants and protesters to gather on October 12th 12th at a bus station in San Pedro, Sula, one of the most violent cities in the world.

Quote, we don't leave because we want to.

Violence and poverty chases us out.

Oh, but go ahead.

Assign these negative, these negative motivations.

So, Glenn.

Go ahead.

A Facebook post, completely organic.

A Facebook post where he just wanted people to run away from violence and poverty.

That is it.

That's why he's so proudly proudly shining his Honduran flag through all these other nations.

I stand corrected.

Thank you.

I stand corrected.

You know,

the Arab Spring had nothing to do with the coordination of the Muslim Brotherhood and groups like that.

That was just a Facebook post.

I stand corrected.

It's about time.

Benghazi was just a spontaneous group of people that had seen

a YouTube video.

And it just spontaneously happened.

That's what happens.

Right.

When people watch YouTube videos, generally speaking, they riot.

Generally speaking, that's what YouTube does.

It's a riot starter.

Yes, it is.

Yes, it is.

So

I'm glad you're finally admitting it.

Why would Mike Pence say that Venezuela is behind?

He probably hasn't read this political article yet.

Well, he's probably.

He's also a liar.

We know that for a fact.

A lying liar who lies.

Yes.

And a hate monger.

A mongering in hatred and lies.

He's a lying hate monger who mongers in many different vices, such as hate and lies.

So

bad.

Yeah.

Do these guys make it to our border?

I think they do.

Yeah.

Is Mexico going to stop them?

Well, no way.

Greg Abbott said yesterday they would.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah, he was on with this.

If they do, I will be stunned.

He thinks Mexico will stop them.

Will stop them.

When is that going to happen?

I don't.

I don't know.

I don't have my crystal ball or my connection to the Mexican president.

Or a political article to tell you what's happening.

Yeah.

Or the people.

no longer have that.

They don't have it yet.

The locals in Mexico are saying the caravan's grown to 14,000 people now, and they continue to head north.

But I'm hopeful that.

Well, there's two others, the news that we've broken this morning, there are two other caravans that are now forming behind this one.

Well, because they've seen

the seriousness of the countries along the way, that they're just, well, no, they're not going to be stopped.

So, yes, they continue to come.

And can you imagine if we allow these people, all of

14,000 or however many are there, and then the caravan after it, and the one after that, what does that say to future caravans?

No, you're over.

It says that California is over.

It's over.

California will be the first to collapse.

Yep.

Even if they are what the Democrats are saying they are, that they're just all downtrodden people who just want to come to America and find jobs.

Well, okay, but are we going to get 14,000 at a time, month after month after month after month?

That's not going to work out well for us.

I guess they think we can just accept an infinite number of people into our country.

The good news is they're all good people.

Yeah, they are.

Right.

Except for the fact that all of them.

No.

No.

Actually, well, not according to the people in the caravan.

Not according to the

same.

Wait.

What do they know, though?

What do they know?

Oh, that's a good point.

Not according to those in the caravan.

Yeah.

They talked to a migrant in a caravan and found, asked them about the criminal element.

element.

Listen.

Criminals is everywhere.

Okay.

It's criminals in here.

I mean, it is.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

It's not that many.

I mean, it's good people in here trying to get it through

Mexico and then get to the United States.

But that doesn't mean that everybody is a criminal.

So not everyone is a criminal.

There are some good people.

There's a lot of criminals.

Well, there's a lot of criminals everywhere.

Wow.

Wow.

I doubt he's going to be asked to speak to cameras again.

I doubt it.

I doubt it.

I doubt he'll be asked to.

I doubt it.

By the way, who's left in Honduras to fight for Honduras?

Anybody?

Anybody going to take a stand in Honduras or is it just turned over to the gang?

This is a stop it.

That's not what this is about.

That's not what this is about.

Of course, it's about the violence.

It is not.

We don't leave because we want to.

Violence and poverty chases us out.

Us out.

Uh-huh, uh-huh.

Thank you.

It's not about that.

This is.

Now,

there may be some people in that group, and there may be some criminals.

There may be some that actually believe that.

That's not what this is about.

This was started as a reaction to gather this same group.

What about the Facebook post?

Facebook post says right here.

Facebook says Facebook posts.

I can't do it.

I can't do it.

I can't do it.

I can't do it.

Have we frustrated you?

No, it's just, you know, all I hear in my head is all of the response.

Glenn Beck, conspiracy theorists, thinks that there's communists all over the place.

Well, yeah.

Let's check the Democratic Party.

What do you think?

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Okay, so yesterday we had

a very perplexing conversation because there was a story that came out in the New York Times.

And I

think what they're saying is what

I've always been saying about transgenderism, and I thought this was politically incorrect, and I don't know what the hell this even means now.

Has this, I don't, I really honestly do not understand.

Stu brought this up.

Read the Times article that you brought up.

Yeah, the Times article is anatomy does not determine gender, experts say.

That's the title.

Now, it's kind of themed through discussion of this Trump plan to change the way people register on paperwork.

You'd be registering as

the sex you were born at, not the sex you believe you are today.

So that's kind of where it's themed.

And of course, every piece of news must go through some sort of Trump filter to see whether you can blame Trump or excuse Trump or

no one can just talk about an issue anymore.

But through at the bottom, about halfway through the story, you get this.

And I was fascinated by this discussion.

How to define identity?

Researchers say gender identity comes from the brain, not the body.

Some put it more bluntly, it originates between your ears, not between your legs.

And so,

yes.

I would say, like, that strikes me as I read it again, almost like a conservative critique

of that's coming between your ears, not your legs.

Right, exactly.

Right.

And this is supposed to be what the researchers are saying.

And it struck me as I was reading this that

we are discussing two different things.

Like, the reason why you would want someone to register as a male or female, let's say, on a government health care form, right, Would be something because, not because of the feeling in their brain, right?

Because of what they really are.

Right.

Like you would have to cover, for example, you know, birth, right?

Something that a man can't do.

Right.

And again, that's a whole other part of the controversy of Obamacare and other things.

But the point being, you know,

there's a reason to know these things in theory with the government, not because they're tracking how feelings.

They're not tracking how you feel in your brain, right?

They're talking about specific things that

body parts can do.

And, you know, that is, you know, there might be a higher risk of breast cancer or a higher risk of another type of cancer.

That doesn't change because your mind feels like you're more like a boy than you are a girl.

And gender has, they have gotten away from one traditional definition of gender, which is male or female.

But the other part of the definition of gender is describing traits that is really kind of, you know,

feminine.

That is a traditional masculine gender.

Okay, those traits.

The tomboy.

The tomboy.

That's a masculine gender trait.

Okay.

But those are traits.

Now, you want to talk about traits, okay.

But we're talking, I thought about saying that you are actually a woman.

And that's not true.

So Dr.

Deborah So is with us.

She is a journalist and sex researcher and

has her head screwed on, right, and isn't afraid.

She's Canadian.

I don't know what it is with the Canadians having more guts than us, but she's a Canadian researcher and has spoken out about this.

Deborah, I just want you to set us straight.

Where are we wrong here?

What are we missing?

I'm absolutely appalled by the coverage on this story because there's so much misinformation being spread.

And with regards to that times piece in particular, anatomy very much does determine gender.

I mean, nowadays, gender is seen as sort of this free-floating, nebulous concept that is completely divorced from biology, but it's very much

linked to biology and anatomy.

For 99% of us, our biological sex is our gender.

Of course, that's not the case with everybody, but for the vast majority of us, that is the case.

And I don't think there should be anything wrong with saying that.

So wait a minute.

So hang on.

But what the Times article was saying is that gender happens.

And I am willing to go back to the

definition male born this way, female born this way.

You want to say gender is male or female specific, but I'm also willing to say, okay, gender is is the traits, but it is not biological.

I'm even willing to go that far.

However,

what's happening here is

they're taking away sex and tying it to gender.

And so

why would we have male and female sex?

If it's all gender,

if it means the same thing, it doesn't talk about traits.

The other part is, isn't that gender dysphoria?

If it is all happening in your head,

then that's dysphoria, is it not?

I see what you're saying.

Well, I think nowadays people tend to use the word gender across the board.

One, because they don't want to use the word sex.

Maybe that makes them uncomfortable.

But I think also from an ideological perspective, it makes it easier for people to argue that you can identify as whatever you want, because it's a little bit trickier.

I think most people still have the common sense to know that biological sex is immutable.

So, to argue for, say, something like transgender rights, it becomes helpful for them to say, well, maybe it's not about biology, it's about gender, which is, you know, they say it's a social construct or whatever, which it isn't.

But it makes it a little bit easier to argue that, okay, someone, the way someone feels may not necessarily be linked to their biology.

So, I'm not sure if that really speaks to the point you're making.

So, but can you explain what gender dysphoria is?

Right.

So, it's the feeling that someone feels more in alignment with the opposite sex than their birth sex.

So someone would be born male, but they will feel more as though they fit in the female role.

Okay.

How has gender dysphoria been embraced?

Is gender dysphoria a good thing or a bad thing?

Hmm.

I think it's seen as, I don't think it should be seen as good or bad.

I think it's a medical condition, and I think people who are suffering should be able to have access to care.

And I think adults should be allowed to transition if that's seemed the best approach for them.

But I think nowadays it's kind of glamorized and seen as something that is really

almost

preferred.

Not I wouldn't say preferred in society, but it's almost like seen as a positive thing, especially among progressive people.

So, but here's my point:

isn't anorexia a form

of

physical dysmorphia that you see your body as fat even though you're 60 pounds isn't that dysphoria right true the thing with gender dysphoria is it does have biological correlates so this is the thing I find very confusing about the whole transgender movement is that you know some people will argue that biology has nothing to do with it other people argue that it is strongly biological I would think that proponents of this movement would want to be in alignment with the science that does show it is biological because doesn't that add some sort of validity I guess to what they're saying because it has to do with hormonal exposure in utero.

So an example I can give is say girls who are exposed to a higher level of testosterone in utero.

So higher levels of exposure to testosterone is associated with more male typical interests and behaviors.

So girls who are exposed to higher levels of testosterone when they are born, they are more male typical in their behavior.

They're also more likely to want to have a male gender identity.

So it speaks to the biological influence, even though people want to say that gender is completely diverse from that.

So

I guess one of the things, as I was reading the story,

Dr.

So, is that there is a ⁇ it's almost like we're talking about two different things.

You know, we were ⁇ if what gender is, is a feeling, that is an interesting thing for people like you to research on.

Even if it's a biological feeling.

Yeah,

sure.

But it's not necessarily of interest

on a forum that you're turning into the government, right?

I mean, like, that's a, it's a different, I mean, it may be in certain circumstances, but why the government is asking for this information is not necessarily about someone's feelings.

It's about a physical characteristic that they hold.

So, I mean, is it just that...

Is it just basically that gender doesn't mean what it used to mean?

Are they using gender to say this is a feeling and therefore we should almost come up with a different word for what I, because what I'm describing and what we've talked about this entire time has nothing to do with feelings.

It's male or female.

It's about, yeah, it's about physical characteristics.

What is the word for that?

I see what you mean.

I think from the perspective of what the administration is trying to do, I think they should be allowed to collect

that information and those data.

without it being such a controversial issue.

And, you know, with regards to protecting protecting Title IX and women's rights, I don't know why people don't see it from that perspective that this is a positive thing because shouldn't that be seen as helping women, right?

And it kind of does boil down to this large argument that's going on right now about people who were born female versus the rights of transgender women.

And are transgender women women full stop?

And so there is this argument going on.

I don't know if either of you have been following this, but with, it's been mostly radical feminists.

I I wouldn't consider myself a radical feminist, but you know, this group of very progressive women who are saying transgender women are not the same as people who are born female.

So in this argument, transgender activists have been winning so far, and we see that in terms of how this narrative has played out with the recent decision.

But in terms of what you're saying,

I see what you're saying, and I guess I'm using different words to kind of mean the same thing in that, yes, for people who are male or female,

gender is basically sex.

It is, at the end of the day, the same thing.

But nowadays, gender is being used in a different way to kind of argue for this more progressive idea that you can be whatever you want.

And I'm not insane, right?

That's changed.

I'm not completely insane in the belief that gender used to mean

no, right?

Like this is something that they are taking this word and making it

mean feelings instead of what it used to mean, which was biological gender

and traits.

Right.

And that's why I think

it spreads to this larger idea that gender is a spectrum, because if you feel a certain way on one day and you feel differently on another day, that must mean that your gender must be something unrelated to sex, which is immutable.

So one more follow-up on this.

If, as the New York Times says, identity comes from the gender identity comes from the brain, not the body.

It originates between your ears and not between your legs.

If that is accurate, and that is a defense of the transgendered argument, right?

It's not a criticism of it, it's a defense of it.

If that is true and it's in your brain and not between your legs, why are there physical surgeries associated with being transgendered?

Right.

I mean, that argument doesn't really make much sense.

And I don't like that argument because it's not really accurate either because what's between your legs and what goes on your brain is linked.

So you can't really separate the two and treat them like they're completely different phenomena.

But I mean, mean, there's a lot of

aspects of this argument that don't make sense.

I mean, transgender activists will also say that gender is a social construct, but if that's the case, why do you then need hormonal intervention

to transition or to feel more in alignment with the sex that you identify as?

So, I guess my biggest gripe from this whole thing is that, you know, sex is

about being male or female.

Gender is how you feel in relation to your sex.

But again, as I said, for the vast majority of us, our biological sex does dictate our gender.

So I don't think the three of us are necessarily that, you know, view things that differently, even though I'm using different terms to describe it.

Let me ask you a really difficult and politically incorrect question.

If

dysmorphia, for instance, is we say that it's bad to be anorexic because you're seeing your body in a way that is not reality and it's dangerous.

It's not a healthy outlook.

we see the stats of people who have gender dysmorphia and the suicide rates are really bad having the sex change and everything else is not changing those suicide rates so why are we taking the the gender dysmorphia and say hey it's totally fine when it's not it's not the suicide rates are bad

uh i would agree that one thing we aren't talking about is comorbidity I do think many people who are coming out as transgender nowadays probably have some other psychiatric condition that isn't being diagnosed because clinicians aren't able to do their job properly.

So if someone comes into your clinic and says that they are transgender, I don't work with patients anymore, but if someone comes in now and says that they're transgender, a clinician really does have to take that at face value.

They're not really allowed to to ask deeper questions because that's seen as transphobic.

So I think nowadays, because it's seen as very trendy to be trans, that could be part of it.

And so, if someone who has another form of psychopathology, it's manifesting as something that has to do with gender, even if gender has nothing to do with it.

But with regards to why transitioning should be seen as something beneficial, I mean, research does show for some people it can help.

I do think if other things have been ruled out, that it can be beneficial for somebody.

I think ultimately, adults should be free to do what they want with their body.

So do I.

Don't get me wrong, so do I, but

I think what I was getting to and you've just answered is

this transphobia,

this just herding everybody into ask no questions is dangerous.

It's just dangerous for people.

And

we should, look, in the end, you're an adult.

You get to do what you want to do, and I'm fine with that.

But

just the silencing of thought, and in this case, science, medicine, is is terrifying

yeah but I mean going back to the difference between gender dysphoria and something like anorexia with people who are gender dysphoric their brains have been partially either masculinized or feminized right in the direction I got it of the gender they identify as right but the thing is these studies that show this in the brain are also conflated with sexual orientation so if you have a study on trans women say so these are people who are born male but identify as female they are also attracted for the most part to men.

So, when you do these brain studies, we're still not clear on if the differences we're seeing are due to them identifying as female or due to them being sexually attracted to men, because there are very strong neural correlates that are associated with sexual orientation.

So, that's the other thing that people aren't talking about is that this has a lot to do with sexual orientation being gay.

And so, the brain correlates that people are talking so much about how transgender, being transgender is in the brain, it's not really accurate because we don't know that for sure yet.

Dr.

Deborah So, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

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I deadnaming?

Yeah, dead naming.

I feel bad for Bruce Jenner.

The fact that he lived his whole life feeling the way he felt and felt like, you know, some sort of outcast, that's horrible.

I feel bad for that.

And you know what?

If he wants to be called a woman and he wants to do whatever he wants to do, he can do what he wants.

He's an adult.

And I can choose to be kind to him and say, you know, you're a woman now.

But if I'm on the witness stand, I'm raising my hand and saying, it's a dude.

That's Bruce Jenner.

Okay?

And Bruce Jenner had a horrible life and a horrible experience, and he felt this way.

And I went along.

So I don't want to hurt him.

I don't, you know, if that's what made him happy, I'm going to say that.

But court of law, no.

And Your Honor, she's not pretty either.

Right.

And I think that's the, there's two sides of this.

There's the libertarian in me is like, well, people can do whatever they want.

I don't care.

And that's fine.

But then there's also the truth, right?

And why it matters is the science part.

You're right when you talk about insurance.

Why do we have to be male or female?

Insurance.

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That woman might have to be checked by a proctologist from time to time

because she might have butt cancer at some point.

Nicely put.

Okay.

I mean, that's just reality.

Right.

And that's why that stuff is important, right?

And you said it, I mean, the doctor said it a bunch of times.

You just said it in the last conversation: feel, felt, feel, felt, feel, felt.

Feelings are interesting.

You can cover them.

You can be interested in them.

We all look at them.

We can watch out for each other's feelings.

Absolutely.

We can try to guard them if we wish.

However, it's completely separate than a scientific fact.

A feeling is a feeling.

It's not fact.

And that's fine.

Yeah.

That's fine.

But you can't disengage from facts

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

I spent about three or four hours yesterday with Sean Spicer.

He's a fascinating guy.

Fascinating guy.

Yeah, certainly has an amazing life experience here the last couple of years.

Yeah, he's a guy who has perspective, not necessarily just another opinion.

Everybody's got opinions.

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about

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He was.

And, you know, it's

there's an interesting thing that's been going on.

We've seen some positive trends for Republicans in these polls.

There's a theory out there, which is, I guess, a competing theory as to what's going to happen with the election.

We're about two weeks away.

People are voting right now, though.

I think up to 7 million people nationwide have voted as of yesterday, I believe, is the number.

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there was evidence of a Kavanaugh bump.

However, that's not going to carry you to the election.

And we saw real improvement for this, you know, in the Senate for Republicans after Kavanaugh, which, of course, is the exact opposite of why it was done, right?

Like, I mean, Democrats did this to hurt Republicans, actually seemed to help them.

And that, I think, is pretty well established in the polling so far.

The idea is, and there's some basis for this thing happening, is you get the bump from Kavanaugh, but it's too far away from the election and doesn't help you.

A good example of this exact phenomenon playing itself out, if this is true, would be the Access Hollywood tape.

Access Hollywood tape came out in early October.

Trump's polls plummeted.

Hillary's went up.

She opened up a very large lead, and that lead trickled down, down, down, down, down until the

very end.

It went from about eight or nine points right after that tape all the way down to about two, two and a half points, which is where the national polls ended up with Clinton up about two and a half points about.

The idea here is Kavanaugh gives them this nice bump, and then it fades before the election, and the Democrats are able at the last second to cross the finish line ahead.

Some of the polling is somewhat interesting on this.

If you look at recent polling that came out, like the most recent poll from

the Cruz O'Rourke

race,

there's been a couple polls taken over the past week or so that have put Cruz only up four.

or five.

Now, there was polling there with seven and nine and ten and twelve point leads for Cruz.

The past few polls have been more like four and five point leads for Cruz.

It's starting to trend the other way, which is the last thing you want.

It's tightening, right?

And that was one of the arguments Sean Spicer was making yesterday: really, got to watch the trends, which way these things are going.

Now, I think there was evidence,

you know, there is evidence, I think, that, you know, the picture's mixed.

We don't know.

This is one race.

There was some polling, though, that showed in Florida as well.

Pretty decent polling for Democrats in the Senate that came out yesterday with Nelson up by four.

There was, you know, on the same plane, though, I mean, Menendez in New Jersey now, again, once again, looks vulnerable after it seemed like he had reopened up a lead and maybe he would cruise to the finish line.

He's now only up by three in a poll that just came out.

And, you know, you never, you can fool yourself as a Republican thinking you're going to win a lot of New Jersey races, but it doesn't.

I mean, Chris Christie was governor there for two terms.

It does occasionally happen.

And Menendez is a terrible candidate who, you know,

quite likely was paying underage prostitutes for sex.

Now, he was not able to be convicted of.

Who are you to judge?

Well,

you can judge whether you think that's a good or a bad thing, but it does seem like it occurred.

So the polling's pretty mixed right now.

There was another poll, by the way.

Some polls are showing that Cruz race even tighter.

So I don't know.

I mean,

it was interesting to hear Sean Spicer talk about it because Spicer, as you would know,

was the original spokesperson for Donald Trump and became famous for that, but has a very long military career.

He was very much a

Washington insider, really knew the behind-the-scenes politics of it.

And you hear him talking about politics, he knows this stuff.

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This is from the latest podcast, The News and Why It Matters.

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The problem is that their base, the vocal minority of their base, keeps dragging them so far to the left that they kind of have to keep fumbling past each other to outdo each other to prove who's the most pure.

And that's the biggest problem that we have right now for the Democrats is that they have been the biggest helpers to the Republican Party.

Oh, big to them.

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I know.

We can't do that.

For most pragmatic,

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I actually think you might have a turnout problem.

You're talking about it with the Latino community now.

I think the Democrats, as ironic as this may sound, may actually lose the enthusiasm gap by a big margin heading into the midterms because a lot of these folks are saying, wow, they've now exposed who they really are.

This isn't about fighting for workers' rights or environmental causes that we've cared about for so long.

This is about impeachment and investigations.

I don't know that I bought in on that if you're a traditional Democrat.

And I think that they look at the Republicans, who have been focused on a pretty pragmatic agenda of economic growth, low unemployment,

tearing down the deregulatory state.

And they go, you know, I'm not sure I'm a Republican, but I kind of agree with that agenda.

So when the dust settles, how many Republican senators are there?

55.

55.

I think if you call me and go, ha, you are wrong, it's 56.

You'll be okay with that?

I'll be okay with that.

But I think that the way it's going now, we've got a 51-49 majority.

Again, I actually think Florida is going to go Republican.

Nelson, Governor Scott's going to beat incumbent Senator Nelson.

I think there's no question that Indiana and North Dakota are in the bag.

And then I think Indiana's in the bag.

I mean, North Dakota is in in the back.

It's 16 points.

Yeah, but you can't lose that lead.

But Indiana, there's another story.

No, I think Indiana, it's up four, but it's look, I've been in politics a long time.

The trend is what matters.

If you're fighting back, if you've got the lead and it's coming over you, that's not good.

Right now, when you look at Indiana, it's continuing to move in the right direction.

Donnelly keeps fading further and further back.

You don't pick up that momentum going.

You don't reverse the trend in the last 14 days.

It just doesn't happen.

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Did it rise?

A lot of times it rises on the last minute, but it was at least 1.6 billion the biggest lottery award in history going to one person in south carolina so you're getting probably

900 if you take it all in one lump sum yes uh

yeah it's 900 and something million 913 i think it is and how much do you get if you take it yearly i believe it's twenty two point six million dollars for every year yeah 30 years So it's 2045.

Can I tell you something?

I normally say take the the money and run, and I would take the money.

If it were me, I would take the money and run because I don't know if that thing's going to sit around for 20 more years.

God help us.

What could happen in 20 years?

Yeah.

However, $22 million

a year, you're living quite large.

And I will say too, actually, as

I'm noting, there is a note at the top of this.

This was originally written for a previous story.

They've just updated it to hit.

So the $22.6 million was on a $700 million jackpot.

So we're talking more than double that.

You're probably close to about $50 million per year.

You are.

You're fine.

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Yeah.

Take the annuity.

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It's funny.

Hasn't the advice always been you're an idiot if you take the annuity?

Yes.

This article goes through and analyzes it and talks about how the tax benefits are there for you to take the annuity.

You're going to get a return that you can't necessarily get in a bank account from the annuity, and that's pre-tax.

And

if you're bilked, you're only bilked one year.

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So instead of having a billion dollars a year, $50 million a year, is that tax-free?

You still have to pay taxes on the $50 million.

You still have to pay taxes on it.

Wow.

It's only $25 million.

Right.

Again, but I mean,

you know, there is at least some limit, right?

Like, oh, yeah, I'm going to get more next year, but I did just buy a fancy house and a fancy car, and I gave money to this person.

And like, you're going to have to wait for it.

$25 million a year after taxes.

You are living.

large.

Yeah, that's across the line where you're basically doing anything you want, with the exception of buying multiple private private jets and that super duper high-end stuff.

You're not going to get...

Yeah, you probably could if you've got $50 million a year.

If you know when the money's coming, you could certainly do it.

But I mean, you're not buying, you can't pay for them in cash right now.

But you wouldn't want to.

But if you have a guaranteed 20 years of $50 million, why pay in cash?

Yeah, I mean, it seems like...

I mean, any bank is going to give you the loan.

Right.

It just feels weird to pay someone interest on anything when you're in in that financial position.

But yeah, I guess you can certainly get it.

What do you care?

It's not going to be all that much, I guess, in the grand scheme of things.

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And we would have obviously shared our winnings with you.

So

as you listen to this, obviously just said that.

We would have absolutely.

If I were won the lottery, everyone in this audience would be a millionaire today.

Really?

Yeah.

We have a much smaller audience than I suspected.

Well, because I've seen the numbers, that would cost you a lot more than $1.6 billion.

Well,

I'm just saying, you know, my heart would say we're all millionaires.

Oh, okay.

I wouldn't actually give anybody else

a dollar of it, but in my heart, we'd all be millionaires.

Oh, wow.

That's great.

It's not worth anything, but it's great.

Yeah.

Let me ask you this.

You won $50 million a year.

Yes.

I know you don't even call me.

Oh, you're not showing up.

You would never even hear my voice again.

Yeah.

So there's no, there's no.

It's like, hey, Glenn, it's been great.

No.

Here's 10 million.

Oh, good God.

No.

Yeah.

I might find someone you really hate to pass along a message.

Right.

You know, send them over to your house.

All right.

George Soros is calling.

I got a message from Stu.

I now work for him.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a big life change at that point.

I don't think there's another deadline I have in life.

Like, I've always thought about that.

Like, I still do a lot of the same things that I do now.

And there's a lot of the work that I do that I love and I would do separately from having a job, but like I'm not getting up early to do it, you know, like that's not happening, you know.

Like, I'm not like, oh, you need that turned in by Friday.

Well, I did in 2039.

Good luck.

I suddenly am like a 20-something.

You know, I may not show up tomorrow.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, you open at nine?

Oh, that's one.

Oh, well, I'd embarrass millennials with my attendance.

I would too.

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Well, here we are today.

We have

suspicious packages again sent to the White House, then to the Clintons, then to Obama, now to CNN.

CNN's building has been evacuated.

We have gone through this when we lived in New York.

It is a scary, scary thing.

But we are

reaping the seeds that all of us are, I shouldn't say all of us, a lot of people who are in politics are sowing.

The streets are becoming more and more dangerous for people who have a political opinion.

And this is not good.

Can you

name the guy who tried to shoot all of the Republicans on the baseball damage?

Can you name him?

Give me his name.

Give me his name.

Give me his name.

Well, we don't give the names of mass shooters anymore.

Yeah, because you don't remember it.

Most people don't remember it because it really happened and then everybody moved on.

But it was a Democratic operative that had worked for Bernie Sanders that had had enough.

And now we're hearing this rhetoric of, you know, when they go low, we kick them.

Go get them at dinner time.

Roger Williams is a representative from

Texas, and he was on that baseball diamond when the shooter started to shoot at the Republicans, trying to kill the Republicans for political reasons.

He's written a great op-ed about

it's wrong to promote violence.

Welcome to the program.

Congressman Williams, how are you, sir?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

Thank you for having us.

So

can you tell me

what that day was like, now a year away from it?

Well,

it's like it was yesterday to all of us, of course, but it was we practice.

I'm the coach of the baseball team.

We practice every morning getting ready for a game in June.

And

I was hitting ground balls to one of my colleagues at third base, and all of a sudden

a boom went off.

And, you know, like a lot of people, we thought it was a backfiring of a car possibly 709 in the morning in a very nice area in Alexandria and all of a sudden someone yelled he's got a gun head for cover and my instinct told me to go to the dugout it was a real dugout so I dove into the dugout about six foot to get away from this guy he was firing I ended up with Jeff Flake and Mo Brooks

and he started firing he fired 60 rounds before anybody fired back.

We were fortunate we had two Capitol Police there that could defend us, but he was firing AK-47 and fired 60 rounds.

There was absolutely no way we were going to live.

I mean, he was going to get across the field and assassinate everybody, but

a lock kept him from doing that.

Nobody knows why the lock was there.

But, you know, I got wounded.

Of course, we're familiar with Steve Scalise's wounds.

My aide got wounded.

Another young man got wounded.

The Capitol Police got wounded.

It lasted 10 minutes.

And I've had friends of mine say when you're in war, a battle lasts about two minutes.

So

it was a life-changing experience.

But the idea that somebody could get up that morning and say, I'm going to go kill people and kill Republicans is pretty unbelievable that that's where we are right now.

And of course, everybody thought

that was an event that was going to turn things around from a civility standpoint.

It did for about 12 hours, and that was that.

Anyway, it's a life-changer for all of us, and I'm thankful that God was in charge, and He let the perpetrator be the one that lost rather than 25 congressmen.

It could have really changed the world.

So

how do you react when you see

Eric Holder say, you know, when Republicans go low, we kick them.

And they're cheering to that.

Well, you know, it's Eric Holder.

It's Pelosi.

It's Maxine Waters, who I said, she and I are on the Financial Services Committee together.

And when they start telling everybody to, like you say, go low, run people out of restaurants.

I mean, I've had all that experience to me also.

It's just wrong.

And the shame of it is they haven't been shot at.

They haven't been shot.

They haven't been wounded.

And I take personal,

and all of us do, personal

problem with it is they're mouthing and

they're creating a really, really problem in our country.

Civility is the word that keeps being used, but we have no civility.

We're not going to get back to where people can agree to disagree in a civil manner.

It's just being stirred up, and a lot of it by the liberal left.

There's no question about it.

So it bothers us.

And, you know, I've had my daughter had a wedding several weeks ago.

We had protesters at her wedding.

I've been yelled at at restaurants, just like a lot of my colleagues.

It kind of takes the fun out of this, right?

But at the same time, we serve for a lot of different reasons.

And I hope we can get back to where we can agree to disagree again.

So

the bombs or the suspicious packages, Clinton's, Obama, Soros, the White House, now CNN today,

Antifa on the streets.

I'd have to point out the proud boys

answering that by going out and

delivering blows once somebody

throws a punch at them.

It doesn't seem like we're getting any better.

No, we're not getting any better.

And, you know, and it's not right either that President Obama, President Clinton, President Trump have to have these packages delivered to

where they are.

I mean, that is wrong also.

You know,

I don't know what's going to change it.

I gave a speech in Washington the day and came out of the office building where I spoke, and people had thrown bricks through our windshield of our car, of our van, all of it broken,

and,

you know, stole everything that was in it.

What do people like?

I mean, you're sitting on a committee with Maxine Waters.

You have to have said to her, have you forgotten what happened at the baseball diamond?

I mean, have you said these things to her, and how does she respond?

No, I have said it to her, and I've said it to a lot of my

those on the other side,

and they don't respond.

They just look at you.

I mean, and it's a shame.

And the fact of the matter is,

I guess they don't want to remember it.

But I will tell you this about the baseball incident.

I travel all over the country, and of course, as you said earlier, the news cycle goes quick, but there's still people remember and come up to you and say, I'm praying for you, Congressman.

I remember I was on that morning when I heard about it.

It was a moment that I don't think is going to leave when it's when

it's a moment that shows how low we've gone.

But when you mention it to Maxine or you mentioned it to some of the others, they have no response at all.

And

it's just moved on.

They just moved on.

We were just lucky or whatever.

And

it's a bad, bad environment.

And it's all generated, I believe, from the dislike of this president, the anger.

I mean, rather, the president fail than the country succeed.

What do you say to people who would say, well, he's engaging in the same kind of rhetoric?

Well, I mean, I hear that too.

And I guess I could say there's some things probably I don't agree with.

We all need to dial it down.

But

it's not right.

And we just need to, it's just, Glenn, it's hard to say.

Everybody in their heart needs to look at what we're going through right now.

It's not getting any better.

It's not getting more civil.

It's who can do more to the other side.

And, you know, I guess I would say in my world, it started at the baseball field, and I know who started it.

And

it wasn't a conservative on the Republican side that started it.

You know, right before the Civil War,

Sumner was beaten with a cane by

a congressman in the well of the Senate, and

he almost died.

Nobody, they didn't, they didn't even arrest the congressman.

Nobody said anything about it.

And in fact,

they took the pieces of wood and made little canes, and they wore them around their neck as

a badge of honor that, you know, don't mess with our party because we'll beat you to death.

I mean, when I read that years ago, I thought, well, we're a long way from civil war, but I'm not sure we are that far from that kind of barbarism.

Well, unfortunately, instead of using canes, we're using guns right now.

And,

you know, I mean, to go to a restaurant with your family and be yelled at, to get on an airplane to go back to D.C.

or to come home and be yelled at

what's that feel like

CNN says that's not a mob

well I'll tell you you can have a mob of hundreds a mob of millions a mob of one

and you know from a personal standpoint I mean I'm a former athlete I've got a lot of drive in me a lot of fire but you know I have found myself just giving them my card and saying I can't deal with your anger but if I can ever help you you let me know

and but I mean it's restaurants, it's airplanes, it's being on the street.

It's pretty unbelievable, but it's the way it is, and it's not getting any better.

And many of us now have been,

have to have to have security.

And,

you know, that's just another level of defense from this attitude of,

you know, to heck with America, let's go get them.

And

if we put as much effort into passing or not passing legislation, reducing regulations, as we do with trying to attack each other, I think we'd see

a lot more positive things in Congress.

We would.

Congressman Roger Williams, thank you very much, and

thank you for

your service and sorry that that has happened to you and your colleagues.

And I hope people on both sides will hear your message and recognize that we can all play a role in this on

based on how we behave.

Thank you so much.

God bless you.

Thank you.

You bet.

Can you imagine?

Imagine working side by side with Maxine Waters

after all that?

After all of that, and then hearing her say that?

Incredibly

infuriating.

I would be very upset.

I mean, you know, it's like

you should be able to live your life and be a representative without being harassed, without being certainly shot at.

But, I mean, you know, I don't understand

what good they think that does anyway.

I think all it does is make people who are conservatives or Republicans that much more motivated to go out and vote.

I hope so.

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A member of the media has now actually admitted that he shouldn't have dismissed Juanita Broderick's accusation against Bill Clinton.

Now, this is coming from a columnist for the Washington Post.

His name is Richard Cohen.

He's worked at the Post since 1968.

And he just wrote an opinion piece titled, I thought Juanita Broderick Wasn't Credible.

I was wrong.

Now, Juanita Broderick is the woman who alleges that Bill Clinton raped her when he was running for Arkansas governor in 1978.

But since the Me Too movement exploded over a year ago, there's been a title shift in the culture, culminating in the tug of war over allegations during the Kavanaugh hearings.

Now, one of the biggest takeaways from those hearings, according to those on the left, is that you always must believe the victim.

During the hearings, Anita Hill was once again in the spotlight, brought up over and over again, and her accusations against Clarence Thomas universally believed by the media.

Yet somehow, some of Bill Clinton's accusers still haven't been extended the same sympathy as doctor Blasey Ford and Anita Hill.

That's really

why is it so unusual to hear a Bill Clinton supporter admit

that they may have been wrong about Broderick?

It's 20 years

later.

Now this has been obviously influenced by the Me Too movement, but Cohen now admits to dismissing Broderick's claims during the Clinton presidency as just another wild accusation made by twisted Clinton haters.

NBC's Lisa Myers recently told Slate, I tested Broderick's story every way I could, again and again and again, I'm quoting, and no detail ever changed.

It never got better, it never got worse, it was always the same.

End quote.

Cohen now wonders why Monica Lewinsky is now totally characterized as a victim, while Broderick is ignored.

Isn't that interesting?

Monica Lewinsky, who has always says she wasn't a victim,

is now the victim.

And Broderick, who has always claimed it was not consensual,

I was raped.

She's ignored.

Cohen says it might have something to do with Broderick being a Trump supporter.

Come on, that couldn't have anything to do with it.

Cohen writes, I remember refusing to deal with the Broderick allegations because I simply chose to believe Clinton was not a rapist.

My position has proved naive.

Let me ask you a question.

Unlike Broderick, who had all of the evidence, had witnesses, unlike Keith Ellison, who the witness is very credible, has nothing to gain, everything to lose, the evidence is overwhelming.

Those two things you can look at, and you can say, there's evidence there.

You chose to ignore it.

With Kavanaugh, there was no evidence.

But if suddenly there was a bunch of evidence and it was presented, I would be fine with saying, wow, okay, new information.

Looks like Kavanaugh did it.

Why is it that no one on the left is willing to do that?

Whether dealing with Clinton or the Kavanaugh cases, all political camps should tread carefully in their certainty about the truth.

Certainty always seems to get us into trouble,

requires a huge dose

of something more elusive than the truth to be able to survive today,

and that is humility.

Cohen

seems to be exercising humility,

and for that,

I thank the Washington Post columnist.

Thank you for being willing to step out of the crowd, go against maybe some of your peers,

and say, you know what?

I think we were wrong about this one.

Thank you, Richard Cohen.

That is a pretty big moment.

We recently went over the details of that Broderick accusation.

I'd like to have her on.

Yeah, she would come on, I think.

It was interesting to see that because I honestly, the same thing, had a similar reaction to it at the time, in which a lot of the accusations about affairs and stuff seemed credible.

But, you know, rapist, I mean, the accusation was really brutal.

But at the time, she had five corroborating witnesses that she told at the time.

She talked about seeing a, I think it was a prison in the outside of the window,

which was confirmed that prison was there.

She was confirmed to be at this nursing conference that was there.

He was in town.

Like, I mean, there was a lot of, it was unlike the, she knew that, she knew what hotel it was at,

and she knew the time period.

I don't know if she knew the exact date, but everything else she had pretty much locked down.

Pretty amazing.

I will tell you, I always found her credible.

I found her more credible than anybody else.

You know, Paula Jones, you know, I don't know.

But

Juanita Broderick, I absolutely believed her from the beginning.

And she has been one woman who has been so wronged over and over and over again.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I'm just sitting here reading a bio of somebody we're bringing on, and this sounds like a prison sentence.

Dan Andros spent the last 15 years as head writer for Glenn Beck.

What was that like?

Holy cow.

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So this is,

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Yes.

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Yeah, we've created a resource now because,

you know, this issue isn't going away.

And when you look at culture and you see how broken culture is, the number one area that it's broken in is in issues related to sex and sexuality and gender.

I mean, we can't even look at people and say, you're a man or a woman.

It triggers some sort of reaction, and everyone is up in arms about it.

And so you have a culture that's gone completely off the rails.

And so what we're doing is we've sort of pressed the reset button on that and we've sort of gone back to ground zero.

And how did God design sex?

How did God design sexuality?

And so where we zeroed in on was porn because we think porn is the main driver of that dysfunction that we're seeing in culture.

And the numbers are more staggering now than ever before.

And churches, only 9% of churches have actually resources dedicated to it.

So that's why we created setfreecourse.com so that people can go and so that hopefully churches use it and take a look at it.

And really, it just presses the reset button on how God designed sex because sex is a dirty word often in some circles, but and people sort of push that over.

But God created it, you know, God designed it for our benefit.

It's really quite amazing.

We were watching something,

I don't remember what it was, and we were, my wife and I were talking about

the medieval times.

And in medieval times, you know, it was a sign of wealth and beauty if your teeth were rotted because they had just discovered sugar.

So that meant that you were full of sugar.

You had lots of food.

Yeah, you had lots of food.

They used to use earwax as chapstick.

Ah, you know,

and I said, I said to Tanya,

all addiction to sexuality with that comment.

I said to Tanya, I said, I can't even imagine kissing or being near somebody back then.

God

was brilliant with the sex drive

because it'd be like, you come in and you'd be like, no, thank you.

But how do you, but how does

it be stronger than it is today?

Yes, I think you're right.

But for those who want to tear that apart and tear that vision apart,

where is the lowest hanging fruit?

I mean, you talk about that sex drive.

We go off the rails with it.

What is the lowest hanging fruit to break up the family and screw up?

Sex.

Sex, we're idiot guys.

We fall for everything.

It doesn't take much.

Come in.

Go over here.

And the numbers bear this out.

I mean, and even among Christians, that's where the shocking thing is.

Like, culture, it's like everyone's got their bro porn now.

I mean, the numbers are, you know, 80% of people, all people have seen porn, like, you know,

especially from guys.

But Christians are not immune to this.

And so this study from Barna that came out recently, 65%, two-thirds of Christian men have viewed porn.

They view it about at least monthly.

They admit to that.

So

that's two-thirds of Christian men.

And the porn is

not like when I was growing up, you know, there was one kid that had a Playboy magazine.

You know what I mean?

You had to shame yourself and go into like some, some, you know, like concrete, no-window building, and like your car would be there and be like, oh, there he goes, in the porn store.

Like, no, no, and it's, and it's not that way now.

Now it is the worst of the worst.

Now it's degrading and super easy to get at.

Everywhere, right?

Everywhere.

And

the real shocking stat, Glenn, is not only is that the case with technology and the prevalence, but among young people where it's most prevalent, 18 to 24-year-old men, now the numbers show that they view it as a morally acceptable choice or indifferent to it, a majority.

So, so well, can I tell you something?

I mean,

you're a guy.

You're being told you can't look at women

sexually.

You can't notice what they're wearing.

Rape is completely undefined.

I mean, you know, I asked you out, you said no.

I asked you out a second time, and now

you're a rapist.

Yeah, I'm a rapist.

I mean,

it's crazy and confusing.

And I don't know, you know,

as a 20-something boy or a 17-year-old boy,

what do I

well, and people would argue it's consequence-free, right?

Like, that's just

getting into trouble with anybody.

I mean, it's consequence-free?

It's not consequence-free.

Right, yeah, not at all.

I mean,

the pastors that are in this course,

you may remember Glenn.

I don't know if you know Doug Wilson, but he got famous because he was debating Christopher Hitchens.

He went around and he was the apologist, the Christian apologist that went around with him.

And so he lays that all out about how

destructive this really is to relationships and how it's the silent killer.

Because there's a stigma with pornography.

Like if you go into your church and you do your testimony and there's some sort of, you know, like a drug addiction or something like that, you know, there's a lot of sympathy for you and people, you know, roll out the right car.

But there's, you know, if you come up and you're the porn guy,

you know, it's like, you know,

how how many times have you seen that testimony at your church?

How many times have you seen it?

I've never seen it.

Right.

And so, and so, and actually, the numbers in the study show that even church leaders are falling victim to this.

So maybe there's a reason why they're not bringing it up.

There's a fear that they're going to be found out, too.

I know

in my church, and my church is the goody tooth-tooth.

We drink milk.

It's the number one reason families are breaking up.

It is the number one cause of problem problem is pornography.

It starts out as pornography and it just spirals out of control.

I'll say too,

if you're having a porn addiction issue, you're probably not going to want to stand up in front.

You're right because the stigma is big.

I think what's interesting about what you've done here is

the same way that

the negatives of what has happened with porn, which is the stigma has been taken away because you can just do it online in your own home.

Like this course that you have is kind of the same.

It takes away the stigma of having to admit it necessarily.

You can kind of go through and hear these things without having to stand up in front of your church and tell your neighbors.

Honestly, I mean,

I know it's really, I know it's, I understand the stigma, but it's the same kind of stigma as you would have as an alcoholic 25 years ago.

Yeah.

There's it is.

This is natural, as you said.

God gave us this sex drive, and it is different between men and women.

And men are driven by their eyes.

We just are.

We're very visual.

Women are not as visual as we are when it comes to sex.

And so

it's normal.

It is normal that you would have this drive.

What makes us not an animal is trying to say, okay,

some of that is good.

Some of the too much of this is bad.

Right.

Right.

And what we're doing is, like I said, we're pressing that reset button and showing you where God has laid this out because culture's gone so off the rails.

And it's, that's part of that's been infused in the church.

I mean, even the stuff you let inside,

you know, the stuff we allow ourselves to watch.

I mean, because you can talk about pornography and say, oh, hardcore pornography.

Yes, that's pornography.

But what are you watching on Instagram?

Which feeds are you looking at?

I mean, is Instagram not like the women in bikinis showing their butts feed right now?

I mean, like, what does that do to your brain when you're just scrolling that all the way through?

I mean,

can that be considered porn?

I think, I think some people could make that case, make a strong case.

This is an argument that

my wife and I have all the time

because there's almost nothing that you can watch on Netflix or Amazon that, unless it's an old TV series or something, there's almost nothing that you can watch that doesn't have this.

So just click, click, click.

Just go ahead and

fast forward through some of that crap.

And that's the argument is on my wife, like, don't stop watching.

We have to stop watching this.

Honey, let's just zip ahead of this part.

But

is that right?

Right.

Is that right?

Because it's not, because it's, is the course like, does it have recommendations for filters?

Is it about that type of thing?

What's the,

we mention those things because they're good, like having internet filters and accountability partners, those things are good.

But what we do is we really just try to get to the heart of it because those things are band-aids.

They're, they're, right.

The Bible says our hearts are deceitful above all else.

So it's, your heart's going to find a way.

If you're still desiring that, your heart's going to find a way around your filter.

You're going to find another device.

you're going to know how to do this and that to get around it so we try to rewire your heart and show you what god we give you a positive vision to shoot for you can't just say don't do it don't do it right give me some of the stats

um well i'm you know two-thirds of all christian men have viewed porn monthly they admit that

I would assume too that's if that's the admitted number it's probably

got to be it's probably not actually just two-thirds

I think it was something like I don't have one in six church leaders have admitted to struggling with this issue.

That's church.

One in six.

And so, you know, 9% of churches only have, only 9% of churches actually have resources dedicated.

And I believe because, and this is just, you know, me sort of projecting this, you know, and guessing this, but because of that and the rampant, you know, numbers that are here, I think that there's probably a little bit of fear in some of these leaders because they feel hypocritical.

you know, coming out and saying, like, let's fight this thing because they know they're struggling with themselves.

But I'll give you one more.

uh, kids are being exposed to porn.

I mean, my kids went on Siri the other day and actually said something, and they misunderstood Siri misunderstood it and came back with like a sexual thing.

And my son was like, What's that all about?

Um, so kids are accidentally or intentionally getting exposed to pornography as young as 10 and 11 years old, and they're getting married later.

So, now think about that.

If you start getting into porn at 10, 11, 12 years old, and it becomes a habit for you, um, and then you don't get married until you're 28 or 29 years old, you've been poisoning your brain now now in how you view women for, you know, two-thirds of your life.

Two-thirds of your life.

And then now we're taking these people to

be a good husband.

And it takes more and more to excite you.

Yes.

I mean, it just.

Well, it's the gateway.

It's the gateway.

It is.

You start with porn and we look at affairs.

And that's the other thing that where does that usually start?

That didn't start just one day you wake up and say, I'm going to go have an affair with my secretary.

It started in the house, in your phone.

And we can talk about this, but I guarantee you our voices right now, we're hitting people.

The numbers don't lie.

The numbers don't lie.

We are hitting you.

We're not hitting your neighbor.

We're not hitting somebody else.

I guarantee you, there's somebody sitting in their car listening to this, and it's hitting home right now because it's the silent killer, and you've been walking around with

that shame and guilt.

And so that's why we made this course, setfreecourse.com, because

God wants you to be free from this.

He wants you to live, you know.

shame-free, guilt-free from this, and he's given you the tools to fight it.

And so that's what we point you to.

Thank you very much, Dan.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah, I guess he's doing something with his life

after this.

SetfreeCourse.com is the place to go get it.

And the Israel thing is coming up, too.

We're going to be doing the Israel documentary.

I was talking to Dan a little bit earlier today about some of the experiences of seeing the media as they cover the Palestinians versus the way they cover the Israeli.

But that wasn't the goal to go over there, to cover the media.

And yet, that's what this documentary became because the media was: if you didn't stay with the gaggle,

you actually observed something of the gaggle that they're just never aware of.

Well, and even more shocking, Glenn, is when the gaggle's there, they get the story wrong.

I mean, it was unbelievable to me, you know, because we went there to watch Trump, you know, actually do what the other presidents didn't do and open the U.S.

Embassy there in Jerusalem.

And so that's what we were there for.

But then what we saw was how the media concocts a narrative that's completely false.

And I'll tell you a quick story,

you know, for some context.

I downloaded an app while I was there called Red Alert.

And so you can try this at home and test it and see if I'm full of it.

But it's called Red Alert.

And what it does is it, you know, you know those annoying alerts you get on your phone when there's like a flood and it's like really loud.

Well, it does that whenever a missile or rocket is launched into Israel because we wanted to follow, okay, there's rockets falling down here.

We're going to go, we're going to go find where they are.

And so I downloaded this app and so it went off a few times while we were there.

I get home and, you know, all of a a sudden at like two in the morning, like my, my phone's just going bananas.

And like all day for like three days in a row, like on and off, I'm getting these.

I had to delete the app because it was so annoying that I was, that these rockets were getting shot into Israel all the time.

You know, and then so what does the media show?

So that's the picture.

Like there's the context.

Like the rockets are flying in from Gaza all the time.

Then the media shows up and is like, look at these Israeli, you know, evil soldiers just gunning down innocent, hapless protesters there on the, on the Gaza border.

Why do you think the Israelis are taking it very seriously when they're burning tires?

When they're burning tires and they're trying to break through the fence, they're taking it seriously because all the rest of the days they're getting rocket shot at it.

Dan, thank you very much.

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the Clintons, Obama, the White House, CNN have all received suspicious packages.

We don't know if anything was in these yet.

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This has got to stop.

It's just got to stop.

The violence...

and the threat of violence on either side is wrong and has to stop.

And

I hope that all politicians on both sides and all media on all sides

recognize the role that all

have played in bringing us here.

It's got to stop.

Ratchet it down.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.