'America, Is It Worth Saving?' - 10/16/18

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Glenn back.

I was going to start with saying that Michael Avenatti is, you know, is my cousin Vinny, but my cousin Vinny is even better than Michael Avenatti.

He is the worst lawyer in all of the history, the annals of ridiculously bad lawyers.

So

I'm trying to figure out what national day this should be because

with Avenatti, it could go either way.

Right now, it's a toss-up between the no-good, very bad lawyer day or the no-good, very bad political operative day.

And a federal judge was confused yesterday as well.

Now, in case you don't remember, Avenatti is the guy who represents Stormy Daniels in the defamation lawsuit against the president.

Okay, this is the this is the reason why Avenati, this is is the reason why we know this guy.

We know it because Stormy Daniels is his client and says, oh my gosh, the president is defaming me.

And he didn't say, you're a stripper.

I don't know we can defame strippers any more than you've defamed yourself.

Anyway, so he goes and he is the infinite superstar lawyer.

He's full of awesomeness.

And he decided to build this case off of, get this, a tweet.

A tweet from the president.

He's defaming me.

Let me see the evidence.

Right here.

It's a tweet.

And he took the case.

Trump tweeted back in April regarding a man allegedly sent by Trump that he had threatened her not to come forward with her story.

Quote, A sketch years later about a non-existent man, a total conjob, playing the fake news media for fools, but they know it.

End quote.

That was the tweet.

Boom!

The hounds of hell are unleashed in a defamation suit.

So yesterday, we finally get to see the case and the lawyer

has to stand up.

Avenati stands up and he tells the judge.

Now the judge isn't sure if this is just really bad lawyering or some kind of game of political football.

So the judge opted to rule it as both.

The judge stated that the president's tweet was rhetorical hyperbole protected under the First Amendment.

And part of the quote, politics and public discourse in the United States.

So

that's part of it.

That's part of it.

So you can't really get them on defamation.

So, forget for a moment that a federal judge has just highlighted that a defamation suit between a sitting U.S.

president, a porn star, and a political activist masquerading as a lawyer is now considered normal and business as usual.

Consider for just a second that this lawyer is actually considering running for president of the United States, a man that has shown no qualms at all with parading women, first Daniels and then Swetnik, in front of the entire world, embarrassed them, all for his own ugly political greed.

The federal judge ordered the case closed,

and Stormy Daniels has to pay all of the president's legal fees.

Now, this might be the funniest thing that

has come out of all of it.

Daniels has set up a crowd justice page, kind of like a GoFundMe page back in April to pay for all of her legal fees.

And as of today, that page has raised $586,000.

So to everyone who just donated, you just paid President Trump's lawyers over half a million dollars.

And as the kids, as the kids say nowadays, LOL.

It's Tuesday, October 16th.

This is the Glenbeck program.

We need to have a powwow about Elizabeth Warren, too.

Powwow Chow?

Can we make that oatmeal soup that she made in Pow Wow Chow?

I don't know, but we should try that.

I hope that somebody smoke a peace pipe on this whole thing

because this is

just outrageous, don't you think?

Yeah, she released this big, basically, I would say presidential audition video yesterday to show everyone that she was super Native American.

Yeah.

Super duper Native American.

No, she was she's Cherokee.

She's Cherokee and part Delaware.

Yes.

Which is

something that does not seem to be backed up by the facts.

Now, they first came out and said, well, the DNA test shows her to be 132nd

Cherokee.

And then they revised that to 130,

the media revised it, and they actually looked at the report and it says 132nd to 1512th.

Then they realized, oopsie-doopsie, we made a math error.

This is a serious correction.

They didn't say oopsie-doopsie in the correction, but they should have because that always makes everything better.

Sure.

But it was between one

sixty-fourth and one one thousand twenty-fourth, I believe it was.

Yeah, one 1024th.

Now that, of course, in and of itself is.

So if you cut the human body up to what 1024 pieces,

one of them, one of those pieces would have a little bit of Cherokee.

Now, this theoretically, right, could at least give her a technical defense of her bullcrap over the past 50 years, right?

Where she's lying and saying she's, you know, she's Native American and she's getting benefits for this and she's getting her stupid soup recipes and pow wow chow, which is the goal of almost everybody.

Pow wow chow.

Pow wow chow.

If you want to talk about appropriating a culture, pow wow chow.

I'm going all full.

I'm just, I'm going to, I'm just.

But let's all complain about the names of football teams, but let's let Elizabeth get away with pow wow chow.

From here on out,

our audience is called our tribe.

And we mean it in the Native American sense.

It's a tribe.

It's a tribe.

Well, it does say, I mean, there are studies that show that the average person of European descent has more Native American blood in them than Elizabeth Warren is even showing in her studies.

The average person?

The average person.

Because the average, I mean, look, this is not a, it's a very, DNA is a complicated matter, and it doesn't exactly show what they try to make it out to show.

It doesn't show any DNA from an actual Native American.

Yeah.

What it shows.

We don't have any DNA.

Native American tribes have said, we're not participating in DNA studies.

We don't want any DNA studies.

So they've never given any DNA.

So we can't use actual Native Americans to test the DNA against.

We have to use people from Peru, Mexico, and

Colombia.

Yes.

Well, wait.

And the theory is that

the same people wind up migrating further south so you can use them as a stand-in, right?

But it does not show that she has Native American blood.

That is not even what they tested.

And even that is, it's a weird thing.

DNA doesn't really do that, right?

Like if you...

If you were born, like Ted Cruz, right?

Ted Cruz was born in Canada, as many people have noticed and liked to point out over the years.

It would not show that he is Canadian blood, right?

Like, that's not the way this works.

It doesn't, oh, well, he was three miles over the border, therefore he was Canadian.

That's not what DNA does.

It shows a lineage.

It can be interesting in some ways to show migration patterns and things.

I wonder if

his blood would show that he's a thousand times more Hispanic than Robert Francis O'Rourke.

It's true.

It probably would show that.

But so it's interesting, you know, from that standpoint of her trying.

to put this issue behind her and falling flat on her face.

First of all, it does not even show the Native American thing.

Second of all, the other part which is interesting about this is they do have an idea who they believe the Native American relative was.

It was her great-great-great-great-grandmother, I think,

several generations back.

And when she registered, it was in the 1700s, she registered as white.

Now, the theory, again, as put forth by the Warren campaign, and this is true, that

she would have had an incentive at this time to identify as white instead of a Native American because there was a lot of violence against Native Americans at the time.

So, if you could get out of saying, you know, it's like if you're in Nazi Germany and you said you were not a Jew, right, and you were able to get away with that, there'd be some serious incentives to do that.

Number one, obviously, while that's true, we don't know that it's true with this person, right?

We don't know that it was true with her great, great, great, great, great, great-grandmother.

Can I tell you?

And secondarily, Glenn, what have we learned from progressives?

We have learned that if you identify as something, you are that thing.

This woman identified as white,

and now we're denying her what she herself has identified as.

She said she was white, and now we're going to tell her she's not.

That was what I was told we were not allowed to apply to anybody.

No, we can't do that to her, but Elizabeth Warren is identifying as Cherokee, so we have to accept that she is.

But we can't accept

what her great-great-great-grandmother identified as.

No, well, it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

I mean, really, seriously, this is so ridiculous.

This story is just so ridiculous.

I don't really care.

I don't care either.

I don't care that she's lying and the people should.

How do you know she's lying?

Let me just play.

Look, I want a cigar store Indian with Elizabeth Warren's face more than anybody else on the planet.

So don't get me.

Are they selling those yet?

Those got to be.

No, but we've got to start making them.

I want one more than life itself.

Okay.

So you know where I'm coming from.

However,

you know, we all have things.

I have a story in my family.

Okay.

Of one of my great, great, great grandfathers.

Now, my grandfather actually took a horse,

a full-sized horse.

He was kind of a vet.

And he took him and he grabbed him underneath the chin.

He didn't have anything to put this horse down, didn't have a gun or anything else to put.

And he took him and he punched him in the head and knocked the horse out.

Okay.

So my family, on my mother's side, they're big people

and they

had muscles in them that I don't have.

Okay.

Now, the legend in the family is that my great, great, great, great grandfather

was this guy.

I don't know why they always involve horses, but one of the neighbor's horses kept jumping over and getting into his garden or whatever.

I don't even know what it is.

And he picked it up and threw it over the fence.

I don't know if that's true.

I'm going to go

and say it's not.

My family, you don't know.

So it could be true.

It might not be true.

Who cares?

That's what I grew up hearing.

Same thing with her.

She might have grown up hearing, oh, yeah, this is what it was.

But

it was not true.

How many advantages through your life did you get because you had people in your family who threw horses over walls?

was, I almost made it into WWE, but how many times have you told that story?

You've been on the air for how many years?

Never.

Never.

I've never told that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I get it.

I get it.

Again,

she is trying to play identity politics.

And if you're going to play identity politics, you better be right on these things.

And that's why I think it is.

Yeah, okay, I'll give you that.

It's valid.

It's valid.

I'll give you that.

It's not a huge story.

I mean, you know, we.

Well, you know, what is a huge part of this story?

Is the Cherokee Nation came out yesterday.

Yes.

And said, quote, a DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship.

Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America.

Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternally to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation.

Using a DNA test to claim any connection to a Cherokee nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong.

It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven.

Senator Warren is undermining tribal interest with her continued claims of tribal heritage.

Okay, look.

It's not a good look.

Yeah,

they're not offering the peace pipe here to her.

She should probably zip it.

And does this not, Glenn, this whole saga of the last two days with this, as you point out, ridiculous story.

Does this not

serve as a gigantic warning sign to Democrats to not nominate her?

This is a.

No, no, no, no, no.

Look, I won, no, no.

This is a significant thing.

She should be here to be.

I really

hate her.

She's great.

She's great.

She's great.

She'll get the minority vote.

She'll get the Native American vote.

Oh, yeah.

And

huge.

Wow.

Anybody who has won 1,026th of anything is going to be voting for her.

I'm afraid of her.

She should run.

She should be the nominee.

Warrior convincing because I think.

And Avenatti should be either her spokesperson or VP or both or both.

That's a scary ticket.

Warren Avenati.

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I mean, I have the, I should have brought the other filter in that I had that I replaced it with, but, but see how it started as white?

Yeah, it's, it's dark charcoal gray now.

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I pulled that out and I was ashamed to say,

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You know,

here's the problem with Elizabeth Warren for the Democrats.

People are sick of this.

Now,

the left is not sick of this, but I think the average Democrat is just as sick of this as the

Republican and Independent is.

I mean, you know, it starts with shout your abortion.

Shout your abortion.

Nobody wants to shout their abortion.

Nobody thinks that's a good idea except for the extremists and the revolutionaries and the Marxists and

the post-modernists.

Everybody else is like, don't shout your abortion.

That's not something to be proud of.

So you have this, you have Antifa, you have

hating cops, hating whites, hating men, hating capitalism, shutting down of free speech, hate God.

People are not into, you know, oh, in the third grade, there's a transition party because all genders are fluid.

They're not into that.

And they've had enough of it.

And with Elizabeth Warren doing this whole, I'm Native American, nobody cares.

Nobody cares if she is.

Nobody cares if she isn't.

I mean, what difference does it make?

And so by playing into it,

She's just making it about identity politics more and more.

And nobody cared.

People are done with identity politics.

I'm telling you, they're done with it.

And

the first candidate, and well, we already know the first candidate was Donald Trump that said, I don't care.

I don't care.

I don't care what you say about me.

I don't care what you accuse me of.

I don't care.

That's why he won.

Because that's why 20% of the people who voted for Donald Trump, and you'll never hear this from mainstream media, because

the Democrats don't want this known.

20% of the people who voted for Donald Trump voted for Barack Obama at least once, many twice.

So they came over from the Democratic side.

They're sick of it.

They're sick of it.

Now, they may not like his extreme tweets and everything else, but they definitely don't like the idea that, yeah, we're going to get rid of capitalism because it's an old outdated idea.

Yeah, you know, we think we should shut down free speech.

Oh, I hate those cops.

They're all murderers.

Men, boy, men are trouble, especially white men.

Did you know that I'm Indian?

And that's really great.

I shouldn't have said Indian.

It really should be Native American because India, shut up.

Nobody cares with all of the stuff that is going on in the world.

Shut up.

The issue here is you don't win that 2020 primary with 20 or 30 candidates in it without appealing to those activists who do believe all that craziness.

And

they're hardcore incentivized to win those people over early, which is why they're all coming out.

And, you know, it's why the Spartacus moment happened.

It's why Kamala Harris was so crazy during the Kavanaugh thing.

It's why Avenatti's on TV with the crazier, the crazier stunt every day.

But you know, Stu, how do you, see, what used to happen is

you'd have to go over to the extreme and then you'd moderate.

You're not going to be able to moderate with those people.

How do you moderate?

How do you go over to the side of Antifa and say, hey, I don't think anything is wrong with Antifa and shout your abortion.

And then when you get the nomination, come back close enough to the center to where people are going, oh, she didn't really mean the shout the abortion thing.

Oh, she didn't really mean Antifa because Antifa and the shout your abortion people are not going to let you get away with it.

You've been eaten.

You've been eaten by the hard left.

And Democrats are waking up to it.

They don't like what's happening on campuses.

They don't like what's happening in the news.

They may not like what's happening in the White House either.

But they're not about shouting their abortion.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Will Stanford, welcome to the program.

Glad you're here.

How are you, sir?

Hi, Glenn.

How are you doing?

Great.

Good.

So, Will, thank you for having me on.

You're welcome.

Welcome to the program.

What's on your mind?

Well,

you know, I had written you an email and wanted to say thank you very much for being an inspiration.

You know, I followed politics since I was 11 years old, and I see you as one of the great minds in political commentary today.

And

recently, I saw an interview between you and Ben Shapiro.

Yeah.

And you came out and spoke about your past with alcohol.

and how that you had entered an AA and it helped you and struggling with alcohol myself

and even being drunk when I watched that video,

you know, I stopped and I went, you know,

this man, with all the stress that he goes through,

he's managed to overcome this problem and become a better person.

And really, I've seen a good change in your personality.

You've become much more humble.

And so

because of your inspiration, I decided to step out and go to AAA myself.

And it's been a huge help.

Good for you.

When did you go to AA?

When did you just start?

About three weeks ago.

And

you're still sober?

Oh, absolutely.

Yes.

I'm having a great time at that.

Really?

That wasn't my experience.

But good for you.

Good for you.

So what was it that was said in that that turned you?

You know, it was,

you're talking about the lady, it was funny.

You know, of course, it was really impacting to hear you be so honest.

I mean, it's got to be tough being in the public eye to come out with something so personal.

And that really hit me like a ton of bricks.

And

then you were talking about

the lady in your group that said, oh, honey, we're all drunks in this room.

And, you know, I had always seen AA meetings as probably something lame or people that wouldn't understand me or anything like that.

And that was the one moment that really turned my attitude and made me go, well, I can walk in the door and I can do this and I'll be in good company.

And I found that to be true.

Well, I tell you, Will,

every AA meeting is different.

It just depends on where you are.

And if you don't find one that you relate to, go find another one because they are wildly, wildly different.

You've walked into an AA meeting in Midtown Manhattan, and,

you know, I had a hard time relating to people because they literally were in the gutter and just coming out.

And I never experienced that.

And so it was different for me.

But you'll find the people you relate to.

I'm so happy for you.

Did people in your life know that you were having a problem, Will?

Yes.

You know, my problems have been

pretty obvious for a long time.

I've struggled with alcohol for almost 20 years.

And

I first got drunk when I was 15.

I've always struggled from self-confidence issues, which is kind of the undercurrent that hasn't helped me.

And when I was around 19, I was in a terrible relationship and had a bad breakup and got into alcohol to kind of cope with it and try and get over it and get over the emotions.

And

I made a terrible drunk decision and kind of in retaliation, I committed a crime.

And my parents helped me through that time, got me counseling, got me things that I needed.

But

with the self-confidence issues, I had a lot of self-hatred that came from committing that crime.

And coming out of that, I was drunk every day for about seven years, you know, and I held my life together.

I would sober up to go to work, I would come home and just get tanked and start all over again.

And then

back in

2008, I had a terrible accident.

I was drunk again, messing around with fireworks from Wyoming and lost 50% of my left hand.

Oh, my gosh.

That didn't get you to sober up.

I sobered up for four years, and I got married,

took on three stepkids, and walked into a different life, rebuilt my relationship with God.

And I came to a point of stress, as comes in marriage and fell off the wagon.

And it was really because I had forgotten God that I didn't keep my eyes on the future and what was good.

And

I've kind of bobbed in and out of alcohol problems.

And thank God for my wife.

She's been so patient.

I don't deserve this woman.

She's wonderful.

And so...

And I sobered up for a while, probably a year and a half.

And over this past summer, I walked away from the family company and got into a job that I thought I wanted.

And those people at that job just ate me alive.

You know, and that really hit my self-confidence bad.

And so I was drunk for six months.

You know, again, I was working,

staying sober just enough to work, and then I come home and get drunk.

I was isolating myself from my family in my office, sleeping in my office, and it

really hampered my relationship with my wife and my kids.

And, you know, so by the time I saw this this interview between you and Ben,

I was at my own rock bottom.

You know, I was a wreck, but I was keeping my life together.

And I was very honest with my wife about my problems, with my parents, you know, and recently I've, you know, stepped back into the family company.

I want to take it over.

I know that that life is for me.

And,

you know, I'm...

I've, like I said, I've followed politics since I was a kid.

And really, one of my aims is I'd like to write a book.

And despite my past, which I might get eaten alive for, I'd like to enter the political realm and kind of get on board with you and other people in political commentary and use my experiences to inspire people as well.

Well, that is

a great goal.

And I'm so glad to hear that you said that.

you know, that God is a part of your life because I would not have made it without my faith

and my wife.

So, would you do me a favor?

Listen to, I want you to listen to a couple of things.

There was an interview that I did a couple of weeks ago.

Stu, it's his name.

He's the pastor.

He was wrongly accused, went to jail.

McGuire.

Gene McGuire.

Gene McGuire.

Go to my podcast and listen to Gene Maguire.

He was wrongly accused, spent 34 years in jail, in prison.

And

his attitude and his story of redemption and also sobriety is remarkable.

And then also, you might find it useful.

I did an interview with Lewis Howes from the School of Greatness a few weeks ago.

And that kind of goes into things a little more.

I was operating on about three hours' sleep when I did that interview.

And I listened to it and I went, oh, dear God, what am I doing?

So that's very frank on that one.

You might want to listen to those.

Do me one more favor.

You have your wife call me

if you fall off the wagon.

Just for a little, just

we can chat on the air and then maybe that'll provide a little incentive for you.

for you not to.

I know my wife, my wife told me if I ever drink, she'll leave me, and I believe her.

And that does cross my mind.

I believe even if you don't start drinking, she may leave.

Yeah, she's probably getting up to the point now where she's like, I'm going to start drinking or I'm going to leave you.

But best of luck to you, Will.

When you least expect it, expect it.

If you just remember that, that your mind will knows you better than you think, and it will play all kinds of games with you.

You will make it.

When you least expect it, expect it.

I've made a book out to you, and we're going to put it into

the mail for you.

Thank you so much.

Great.

Thank you, Glenn.

Appreciate it.

You know, I want to spend some time, maybe on tomorrow's show.

I want to spend some time about this.

I'm getting so much

mail now on people who are trying to go through recovery, but more importantly, I'm getting a lot of mail about depression and

suicide.

Yeah.

And I don't know why this is happening, but suicide is a huge spike.

And I don't think people understand it.

And I want to share some of the things that I have seen in the mail and some of the things that I've heard.

I don't know if you saw A Star is Born.

I have not.

No.

It's Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga.

Yeah.

Supposed to be an Oscar contender.

Oh, I think they're both going to win Oscars.

I mean, they should.

It's fantastic.

But it is.

I don't want to wreck anything, but

it deals with alcoholism and suicide, and

it's very powerful in its portrayal of that.

And

I don't know, suicide is

in the zeitgeist right now.

And so we'll talk about it possibly tomorrow.

You mentioned you signed a book

for him, and the book, of course, Addicted to Outrage, which we've talked about about 25 zillion times in the past couple of months, you may know that it is available in bookstores.

However, one thing we don't mention often is the subtitle.

And, you know,

it's about how treating the country, right,

and admitting that we have a problem, not like us, but like the country

as a whole has an issue with the way they're dealing with problems.

And if you look at that, because it's about what's the, I don't have it in front of me.

It's

exactly

how thinking like a recovering addict can help you heal the country.

Yeah.

I mean, it's those principles that are helping him get through that alcoholism, right?

A lot of those same principles would work on our country.

No, they definitely would.

And that's, you know, you get into some of the addiction issues in the book, but also how that applies to everything we have to deal with on a daily basis.

You know what the cure for Michael Avenatti?

Like, that's what the book is about.

It's about being able to apply those principles to other situations.

And it starts at the beginning.

It's not just admitting you have a problem, that we all have a problem, that the nation has a problem.

And I think we can all admit that.

But it really, it really,

I think there's a section in here that, in the book that really came before, as an alcoholic, I had to decide, is life worth living?

And in the book, there's a chapter of, are we good or are we bad?

Is this republic, is the American experiment worth saving

and we're not talking about that we're seeing people tear it down but nobody who's talking about is it worth saving

so how do we answer that question

and the book goes through that and I think the road to recovery of of our ills in this nation start there

you know you can say Hillary Clinton can say well, I can't compromise with people.

You know, I can't even talk to those people because they want to destroy everything I believe in.

Well, what is it you believe in?

And really believe in.

Don't tell me the trite little things.

Tell me about America.

Tell me who you are.

Now, she can't do that because

I just don't think that she's

honest enough to tell me.

She's a politician.

She's calculating.

And so are most politicians, right and left.

It's up to us.

We have to say that to our neighbors that we think we disagree with.

Can we not talk about politics for a second?

Is America worth saving?

Is it a good place or a bad place?

And the book shows you how to have that conversation and gives you some facts, both on good and bad.

Because both sides have to...

have to step to the plate.

Both sides, Republicans generally see raw-raw, all of the good things, red, white, and blue, and we're patriotic because we believe and we don't want to hear the bad things because usually the bad things are being told to us by people who hate the country

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Well, we've let ourselves go.

We're not trying to balance that anymore.

We're saying we want to save this.

Well, why?

Why?

What's worth saving?

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What are we saving?

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We talked to Gavin McGinnis, who the press is blaming for

the trouble in Portland this weekend.

We'll get his take on that.

And Harvard and racial balancing.

I think they're about to lose this.

Glenn Beck, Mercury.

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Glenn Beck.

A little election by the numbers.

So let's start with the Senate, Glenn.

And right now,

it is looking very good for Republicans to control the Senate and potentially even expand their majority.

In fact, the chances are pretty good that they're going to be able to do that.

Let me give you the, we have a little graphic here you can kind of set up here and we'll see.

We'll let everyone on the radio know as well.

There are 46 seats that are pretty much assured for Republicans right now.

If you kind of use the solid Republicans seats, you're up to about 47.

And then there's three seats that are leaning Republican right now.

There's Texas, Tennessee, and North Dakota.

All three of those are leaning to the Republican side.

All they have to do is win the leaning states, and they're to 50, which gets them control of the Senate for at least a couple years.

There are six races in the toss-up category, and each one of those is going to expand that majority if they can do that.

So, I mean, like, Arizona seems to be going in the right direction right now.

There's a couple like Florida and Nevada, which are really close, easily, you know, total toss-up races.

These are very close right now, but you could easily see a scenario where Republicans can get to 53 or 54 seats.

It all comes down to this question in my mind.

Do you want to shout your abortion or not?

Do you want to shout your abortion?

I'd rather not.

Do you believe that it is a healthy direction for the country

to have representatives and senators who stand right next to people who say, shout your abortion, be proud of your abortion?

No, no, no.

No, what happened is safe and rare.

What happened to that?

Oh, that's dead.

The rare part of it is dead.

Yeah, the rare part is dead.

Shout your abortion.

Be proud of it.

Let's make a comedy of it.

And I got news for you.

By the way, abortions are not safe.

In fact, they are 100% effective at killing something.

Yes.

So it never was safe.

It is currently legal, but they don't care about rare anymore.

That one has gone out the window.

And it's not just that.

It's extremists on all fronts.

If you look at what's happening in Portland and you think this, you know, I want more of that.

Well, you know who to vote for.

That's it.

Yeah, if you want, I mean, look at all the things we've seen over the past few years from everything, occupying Wall Street, occupying Scott Walker's Statehouse, occupying the Keystone Pipeline, FBI buildings in Portland.

You want that to continue, there's a way to get it.

There's a way to get it.

In fact, turn the volume up.

Spartacus and his friends will do it.

All right.

We wanted to bring Gavin McGinnis in.

Gavin

is CR-TV host, Get Off My Lawn, which is, I think, my favorite name of any show.

And he's in trouble now because the press has decided he's very, very violent.

He's a Canadian writer, actor, and comedian.

He is the co-founder of Vice Media and Vice Magazine, and now on CR-TV.

And we welcome him to the program.

Kevin, I really appreciate you coming on.

Oh, I'm really happy to be here.

It's one of the few places telling the right stories.

Well, I will tell you this.

I mean,

your tribe believes in take them on,

and that's totally fine.

My tribe

reluctantly is more of the, you know, stand with peace and more of Martin Luther King.

You're kind of Malcolm X.

I want us to be able to understand each other and live with one another because you're not the enemy.

And

what you guys are doing, I totally and completely understand.

You've had enough and you want to stand up and say,

because nobody else is.

Am I right?

Is that what's happening?

Yeah, well, look at

those two versions wouldn't have been that different on Friday night.

The guys who were looking for a fight, they got in some extra kicks, right?

And so that's maybe five seconds.

of violence that wouldn't have happened if it went your way.

That's five seconds out of three days of terror.

Antifa was threatening the venue.

They were giving death threats to this old lady who answers the phone there.

Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on.

Let's go back to what you were doing, what the venue is.

And you have to hit on the poster because

I think the poster is just entertaining.

But go ahead.

Well, Otoya Yamaguchi killed the socialist with a samurai sword in 1960.

And it's a funny troll that a lot of right-wing guys do.

It's sort of like the Pinochet thing, free rides, free helicopter rides for commies.

Clearly satire, right?

So it's that kind of setup.

I announce it on Tuesdays, call myself Otoya Yamagavi, and I Photoshop myself into his mugshot.

The second we announce that, and anyone who knows me too knows that it's satire, Antifa goes full blast.

They start attacking the venue, attacking the old lady there.

The calls are coming from all over the country, by the way.

So this is a planned attack that Antifa has worked.

I think DNC and the Antifa are working hand in hand, because this was well organized and well-funded.

So then those attacks continue.

Night before the venue, totally trashed, window smashed, big ridiculous, pretentious manifesto nailed to the door that says that we put the Republicans on notice.

This is only the beginning.

We are not civil, which, by the way, is a Hillary quote.

Then I get to the venue that night, sorry, the next night, total and utter chaos, beautifully made signs, screaming, hurling bottles of urine, which one of them hit my car on the way out,

organized rallies.

Like there's this guy in a Mets hat you'll see if you really get deep into the foxhole, where he's calling anti-front, saying, you know, you guys go over there, over there.

A citizen journalist gets beat up.

They take his backpack.

The police arrest him.

And then

they r arrest the citizen journalist?

Yeah, no, no, sorry.

They arrest three of the of the ten who mobbed this guy.

Okay.

But I interviewed him today, and he was talking about coordinated attacks.

It seemed very military.

So this isn't anarchy, these anarchists are pulling off.

Well, you know, I don't know if I'm sure you are.

Antifa Austin is

on their Facebook page, has called for guerrilla-style tactics.

They've called for a, what did they call it, a black shirt army or something like that?

A red shirt army.

I can't remember.

um but they're calling for people that just want to go out and do what antifa normally does but they're also calling now for a an actual standing army and they were looking for people that know military tactics that could teach people so that's that's happening and of course facebook doesn't have a problem with with covering that but well that must be the met's hat guy the police are looking for that my citizen journalist told me about um so yeah that's those guys were charged with assault and robbery because they took his backpack.

So now you and I, by the way, peaceful Martin Luther King guy, Malcolm Adams guy, are still having the same experience right up till now, and it's been days.

And then when it's time to leave, I come out there, I've got my plastic sword, I make a Toya Yamaguchi joke, and that's when they hurl the urine at me.

I jump in the car.

And then

this group of proud boys are the last ones to go.

they leave and the video just came out yesterday on Breaking 911 on Twitter.

They are attacked by Antifa, fully clad with all their gear, and they throw a bottle at them, and a huge fight breaks out.

Now, in your world, that fight would have been, you know, hey, cops, cops, or something like that.

In the Malcolm X world, it's a little bit longer, but again, five to ten seconds difference.

So we're splitting hairs here.

The real issue is we are up against homicidal lunatics with no agenda, no plan.

It's not like they know where we're going to get, you know, our gas and oil from after the revolution.

These guys just want to burn America to the ground.

And the media is on their side.

Yeah, I know.

So it's so frustrating because we had the same kind of thing happening out in Portland, Oregon.

And,

you know, Portland has ⁇ I don't know who this mayor is.

I mean, what the hell is he doing?

Where they're already directing traffic antifaw.

The police are standing a block away, and then they do nothing.

Well, my understanding with these super left-wing towns like Berkeley and Portland is the mayor allows Antifa to wreak chaos, and then he can say, sorry, Trump supporters are trouble.

I mean, look at all the chaos that happens when someone who likes Trump shows up, when Republicans and conservatives are around.

So let's just, you know, if you don't want Antifa around, stop being thaw.

That's their sort of motto.

And it works.

It's interesting, Gavin, because the initial video seemed to indicate that your guys guys were in the wrong, that they started this and they started the violence.

The second video that was released, however, shows clearly someone from Antifa throwing something at

the Proud Boys,

and that's when the fight breaks out.

It was not something that you guys, at least the main one that has been covered, it was not something that you guys instigated.

Isn't it strange how quick the media is to run with the evil Nazi narrative without doing any research whatsoever?

And isn't it strange, too, how the media takes a five-second clip and makes that the total story when we have days and days and days of subterfuge, days and days of domestic violence?

It's almost like I'm at the point now where I think they don't just like Antifa, they are Antifa.

I think a lot of these journalists, these little huff-poll bloggers, will go to rallies with masks on.

I'm convinced.

I will tell you,

I'm having a very hard time defending the press, which I have tried to be more moderating

on my words with the press.

But the the deeper we get into the violence on the streets and the calls for kick'em when they're down and all of this stuff,

there's no excuse.

When they will not call a mob a mob, an angry mob, when everybody knows what that means,

I don't know what to say.

I mean, how you and I and I can't go to restaurants.

Tucker Carlson just today said he can't go to restaurants.

No, no one conservative can go to a restaurant today.

That's a new one.

And it's because the media will throw around white supremacists like it means absolutely nothing.

A white supremacist is someone who sees white people as above all other races, just inherently better, and wants all the other races out of America.

That is a remarkably esoteric view to have.

It's a crazy view to have.

And they just throw it on us, and it sticks like glue.

And it affects our families, it affects our lives, affects our personal lives.

There's got to be some culpability there.

Okay, so Gavin, hold on for a second.

I want to take you over across the break and just ask you what it is you believe.

What is the America that you see and that you're fighting for?

Back with Gavin McGinnis coming up in just a second.

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We're with Gavin McGinnis, who is the host of Get Off My Lawn on CRTV.

He is the writer, actor, comedian.

He is the founder, co-founder of Vice Media and Vice Magazine,

and

also the leader of the Proud Boys, which the media is saying

they're violent and racist activists.

So tell me who you really are, Gavin.

Tell me what you're really fighting for.

What is your vision of America?

Well, first of all, I'm not the leader of the Proud Boys.

I just started it.

They grew organically.

I I just happened to be there.

And they grew organically as some of the one to stand up to the violence of Antifa, who were pepper spraying and Coulter and Laurence Southern and me and all these other people who just wanted to go do a talk.

And they haven't stopped with this violence.

And inevitably, when you're that violent, I mean, if you had a group slashing tires, you're going to have the tire boys at some point.

You're right.

So this group would not exist if Antifa wasn't trying to shout people down and trying to

take them out.

I don't think so.

I think they'd just be at a bar like the Elks Lots.

They wouldn't be coming out to defend people.

But more importantly, the way I feel personally is America is the greatest country on earth because it's not about identity politics, because it's not about your accent like it is in Britain or where you come from.

It's about meritocracy.

You come here, you bust your ass, you at least appreciate Judeo-Christian values.

You can be an atheist, but you have to understand that that that is the backbone of the country.

And as long as you're part of us, you're in.

We don't care if you're from Uganda, Singapore, you bust your ass, you're into American values, you're in.

And there's not a lot of places like that in the world.

It's very rare to have that total lack of classism and that admiration for independence and liberty and hard work.

And we got there through a horrible list of ups and downs and rights and wrongs and trying to correct things.

We had slavery.

Our treatment of the Indians

was not what you'd expect for someone to whom the Sermon on the Mount was divine command, as Buchanan says.

But

we got here all together through all this mess and all this suffering.

And here we are in the freest country of the world, and we get people complaining, saying America was never great.

And that's what pisses me off.

And it's ironic that we get called white supremacists because the reason we love America is it doesn't bother with all of that crap.

Gavin, we had this for a long time.

I think the media basically just said Antifa wasn't, they didn't exist.

They ignored them completely.

And as the violence has escalated, their new tactic seems to be: well, yes, there's violence, but it's the Proud Boys' fault, or it's the right wing's fault.

Have you noticed?

Or they're just exercising, my favorite is, they're just exercising their First Amendment right of assembly and petition.

Of course, of course.

I'm curious, Gavin, if you've detected a difference recently in the approach from the media as trying to make your group the real

villain.

The real villain in this.

Because I mean, they were, you know, there was a tweet strain going on about the alleged violence by Proud Boys members, and it was retweeted by people like Maggie Haberman.

Like, the big time reporters were going after this.

You've become, I think, a central target in this.

Is that do you feel that?

Definitely.

I think the the DNC put their hate is not hate has no home here.

That's the only thing they have to say to America.

And it's an idiotic thing to say.

That's like saying we are sick of albino violence.

Like they just chose this really weird concept, these evil Nazis, and they said, We're going to rid America of the Klan and Nazis.

Now, there are none.

So they go, Uh-oh, we got to expand the net here.

So now anyone who disagrees with them is part of this evil hate they have to stop.

And I, unfortunately, have fallen into that definition.

And it's it's

it's amazing that Antifa and the media and the DNC are all in cahoots.

Like Cuomo was saying, hate is like a match, and you put it on dry grass, and then the wind just takes it.

I think the match is Antifa.

The wind is the media, and the DNC are starting fires.

I have to tell you, I have a hard time disagreeing with that, seeing the way

the left has just consumed the DNC.

I mean, there's, you know, when you're into an organization where you're starting to say, you know, shout your abortion

and that kind of

really despicable kind of

behavior, you're bound and determined to start just going way off the rails.

And

they are.

They're the extremist party now.

And it's all getting so gray.

I mean, they used to, and the same is in Britain, Britain, by the way.

The way that the DNC uses Antifa as their

paramilitary wing here, the media uses the jihadists over there.

And the attitude in both cases is, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And Antifa's language and the DNC language is getting more and more similar.

Just like that note, it said, we are not civil.

That's what Hillary said.

When we go low, when they go low, we kick them.

Or Maxine Wander is saying, no, no freedom, no peace or whatever.

Go to their homes, attack them.

We've got people on CNN saying that Sarah Huckabee's hunger should be harassed for the rest of her life.

That's a life sentence.

They said the same thing about Susan Collins.

They're sending ricin to Republicans.

We got Rand Paul's wife sleeping with the gun.

We got senators getting the texts of beheadings after Kavanaugh comes in.

I mean, can you tell the difference in all those stories between Antifa and the DNC?

They sound pretty similar to me.

Gavin McGinnis.

Thanks, brother.

Appreciate it.

Cheers.

God bless.

Gavin McGinnis from CRTV, get off my lawn.

These are the conversations we should be having.

We should be looking inside and saying, what is it I believe?

What works and what doesn't?

Mercury.

You know,

in the book Addicted to Outrage, I...

Some people who haven't read the book think that it is about

surrendering or just making friends with the left, and it's not.

That's not what this is about at all.

It's about knowing what you believe and then taking a strong stand, but with a different approach, because times have changed and

they're getting more and more dangerous.

And I have talked to you about Martin Luther King for a long time.

Somebody who

read my book who I really respect, they they read it and they said,

you're about a year to two ahead.

I'm not sure.

Maybe, maybe, because I think more people will look at this as things become crazier and crazier.

Maybe.

But

it's not about uniting with the left because I don't think you can unite with the left.

The left has gone insane.

I think you can with a lot of Democrats.

And I'm not talking about the ones in Washington.

I'm not talking about political people.

I'm talking about your neighbors.

But the first thing we have to do is unite with each other.

We have to unite.

People who

are on the right

part of the spectrum need to come together.

We have to come together.

And I'm really,

I don't like the, hey, you're on the train or you're not on the train.

What are you talking about?

What train?

Where's a train going?

Here's the train that we should all be on.

The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, because that's why people came here in the first place.

People die in the middle of the night in the desert to get here because we have A, a rule of law.

B, we do not have a class system.

You can break out.

If you work hard, you're smart, and you're a little bit lucky, you can break out.

You can change the world.

You can invent something in your garage and become Bill Gates.

That's America.

That's great.

That's why people come here.

And we're losing sight of that.

And so the first thing we have to do is ask, are we worth saving?

And I think the answer across the board, I'll bet you 80%, maybe 90% of America says yes, America is worth saving.

So what does that mean?

Well, capitalism.

Capitalism, but not necessarily the way we're doing it.

Not where it's playing favorites.

The Constitution, but we haven't been on the Constitution or the Bill of Rights in a long time.

But we do need a rule of law.

Let me start asking you just a few questions.

And I don't care who you voted for.

I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.

Just answer: yes or no.

Do you hate men?

Do you hate white people?

Do you hate black people?

Do you hate Jews?

Do Do you hate cops?

Do you hate capitalism?

Do you want to shout down others that have a different opinion?

Do you want to shout down God or hate God?

Do you

believe street violence is the way we solve things in America?

If you answered yes to any of those things, I don't think I have much in common with you.

But I don't care who you voted for.

I'll bet you the vast majority said no to all of those things.

And it wasn't a hard, well, I don't know.

It was no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's who we are.

Those are the people

we need to unite with.

But the easy ones to get are the ones on our own side.

Gavin McGinnis and I may disagree on a lot of things.

We disagree.

I believe that it would be much more helpful to take the Martin Luther King pledge and go and walk through Antifa

singing hymns and let them club you in the head.

Go ahead, let them club you in the head.

I know that's not fun.

I don't want that.

But that video of not breaking ranks and not punching back, that video will speak to 80% of Americans.

That video will cross all barriers and people will say, okay, look at these guys.

They're not even defending themselves.

Look at what they're doing to them.

You put evil versus good side by side and people in America, at least still at this point, will choose good.

But it has to be really good.

It has to be a shining example of good.

It has to be over-the-top good.

That's why this is where we disagree.

I understand,

you know, Gavin and

the Proud Boys, what they're doing, I don't think they're wrong for wanting to do it.

And I don't think they're wrong for thinking that it's the right thing.

Because how is it right?

How is it wrong to stand up to bullies?

How is that wrong?

How is that wrong?

If the police won't stand up, if the media won't stand up,

who's going to?

So I completely understand that.

And I can't blame you.

Can't.

I get it.

I just think it's not

effective.

Because what happens is the media then just takes the piece of the video that they have where somebody's swinging back and then they say it's their fault.

So it's just not as effective.

Do I want to get clubbed in the head?

No.

No.

But if Gavin and I can't come together,

even though we have big disagreements,

our disagreements are not on the things that actually matter.

We're not talking tactics.

The things that actually matter are the principles, Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Judeo-Christian ethic.

Fundamentally, the left is, you talked about this before, shouting their abortion.

They're proud of their abortion and they're heroes.

The Proud Boys are proud of the West, right?

And they're the villains.

You know, I think you and Gavin would agree completely on what to be proud of.

The fact that

the Western way of life is something to cherish.

It's a miracle.

It is.

And there's nothing wrong with defending that at all.

You know,

tactics aside, we have to, if we don't defend it, it's going to go away.

You know,

we're only one generation away from losing this, as we all know.

And maybe a generation, seems like it could be a week or two away at

this rate.

So we have to sit there and defend it.

It's just, you know, what's the best way of doing it?

And I think that there's a discussion there.

Because

I think as Gavin would acknowledge, and we kind of talked about it in the interview, going to be they're going to be under the microscope now, they've got to be on their absolute best behavior.

As when the tea party was going on, right?

When we went out and did these rallies, if there were, you said, don't bring signs, because we know if there's one sign that's out of place, if one person makes one sign that has any hint of something bad, it will be the entire story.

Don't even bring signs.

Make sure you clean up when we walk away.

We want this

area to be cleaner than when we got here.

And time after time after time,

that happened.

And they weren't able to show, to say, with any evidence that they were violent.

So here's the thing.

I think we were way ahead.

Roger Ailes told me once, he said, you're so far ahead of the parade, you're about four blocks ahead.

They can't even see you.

That's just you walking by yourself.

When you're four blocks ahead of the parade, you're just at the same time.

That was his point.

You're on a stroll.

That was his point.

And he said, you're so far ahead.

And I said, well, I don't know.

I'm just doing what I feel is right.

And he said, slow down.

You're way too far ahead.

That was the best advice he ever gave me.

I never listened to it, but

it was good advice.

And I think, you know, when we were talking, people used to say all the time, Why are you talking about Martin Luther King?

Why are you talking about Martin Luther King?

When we went to Birmingham, I said, I want everybody here.

I want you to sign that Martin Luther King thing.

Well, there was nobody shouting us down.

There was nobody doing that.

And I said on stage, there will be,

there will be,

there's going to come a time soon where you're going to have to

decide.

There will be these times in our future, and you have to decide now.

We're just ahead.

Imagine doing a rally now.

We were afraid of the Restoring Honor rally because, if you remember right, the Black Panthers were going to come.

And they were going to engage us.

Well, the Black Panthers joined with

Al Sharpton and they tried.

They just marched through.

They didn't cause trouble.

They just marched through and we let them go.

And there's video of people saying good things.

As they're saying bad things to us, we're saying good things to them.

Now,

at the time, it wasn't like Antifa in Portland.

And Antifa wasn't there.

If you do a rally and it is peaceful, and Antifa comes to attack and

we're the ones

and we don't, oh my gosh, what am I saying?

Good God.

And we don't turn away.

We don't raise a fist.

That's a different story now.

And one that people want to hear.

Because people aren't believing the media anymore.

And they're seeing these words come out of, there are Democrats, I'm telling you, all over the country that say, look,

maybe I believe in abortion, but I don't believe in that.

I don't believe in partial birth abortion.

I don't believe in, hey, abortion should be, you know, you should be proud of it.

Go shout it.

It's great.

There's nothing wrong with it.

No.

Normal people look at that on the Democratic side.

I mean, the voter that lives next to you.

They look and say, look, I don't want to be involved in those decisions.

But, you know,

I don't agree with that.

I don't agree with that.

Out of compassion, medical, because I don't know people's situation, yes, but if that's your version of the pill and you're proud of it, that's a problem.

That's who America is.

And they're looking.

They're looking for a movement.

They're looking for someone they can stand with who just will call balls and strikes, who are not going to say, yep, that's right, when Donald Trump tweets something stupid.

Just say, it's stupid.

I don't agree with that.

But when he does something right, yeah, he did that.

Look at that, huh?

Call balls and strikes.

That's where America is.

But the first thing we have to do is come together.

Behind those principles.

I don't care if you are on the Democratic side or the Republican side or the Independent side.

I don't care.

I don't care who you voted for in the the past.

I don't care what you believed in the past.

What do you believe now?

Do you believe we're on the ropes?

Do you believe this system of government is worth saving?

Do you believe this

capitalism is worth saving?

Do you believe

the scientific method is worth saving?

Great.

Then let's stand together and put our differences of approach aside because we got a lot of work to save this thing right now.

By the way, Gavin has already been silenced on Twitter.

And if voices don't start coming together,

more are going to be silenced.

What was it?

500 or 600 were silenced last week from Facebook.

And I don't see anybody talking about it.

I don't see anybody talking about it.

Yeah, it kind of came and went in just a couple of days.

No big deal.

60 million followers just disconnected from the voices that they were following last week.

60 million.

Nothing.

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Stu,

what is it going to take?

I mean, when you listen to Gavin McGinnis about a half hour ago on the program, and you listen when I said, So, what is it you believe in?

What is the America that you see?

I don't see anything that should be shut down.

I don't think, I don't see anything that is dangerous or any good that comes out from silencing not only him, but

even a crazy man like Alex Jones.

But

Gavin is not saying things that are dangerous.

You know, we've always said more voices, not less, not less, or probably should be not fewer.

I get those confused all the time.

I think it is.

But you want, I mean, that's the whole thing here.

You're supposed to be able to talk about these things openly with people that you disagree with.

And ideally, right, like if you care about something and you're passionate about it, you're working on persuading someone else, right?

I don't know that you can get into a situation where you're on the streets talking to Antifa, that anyone's going to ever get convinced of anything.

No.

So, I mean,

that's not where I direct my attention typically, but I understand that like you can't have...

If I lived in Portland right now, I would be happy that organizations were showing up to defend me against Antifa.

I can see that when

you get to this point, and you mentioned this earlier, when we talked about it in, what was it, 2015 in Alabama, about how, you know, at some point there's going to be these groups doing these things.

They're going to be ripping people out of their businesses.

They're going to be doing terrible things.

They're going to be destroying property.

It's all here.

That's all here.

And, you know, someone has to stand up for it.

And if the mayor's not going to direct the police to do it, what happens to the average citizen?

So we're going to go to Brazil next because

there's a presidential

election going on in Brazil that appears to be pretty frightening.

And Steve Bannon's surprise surprise is in the heart of it

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glenn back is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way he might not be able to save the country but at least we can all go down laughing glenn back live the addicted to outrage tour on tour this fall

glenn back it's tuesday October 16th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I want to talk to you a little bit about Brazil and the elections that are going on there.

Nobody's paying attention to this because, you know,

it's far more important than we talk about somebody's Cherokee heritage.

But something is happening in Brazil that can really upset the Americas, both North and South.

They are in an election now.

And the guy that might win

has some scary earmarks.

And the press, if you ever hear talk about him, says, oh, this is Brazil's Donald Trump.

Trump.

No,

no, I don't think so.

Although I believe Steve Bannon is involved in this, this

Brazil, remember when who was it, Lula?

Wasn't it President Lula?

He was really popular.

Things were going well for Brazil.

Everything seemed to be going great for Brazil.

Yeah, unfortunately, there was this huge corruption scandal in the government, and I think it was in the oil industry,

and it was massive, just massive.

And a lot of people went to jail.

Because of that,

some of the districts, the police had no fuel for their cars.

Hospitals didn't have basic medication.

Street crime is off the charts.

And when that happens, then you start to get radicals.

Only 56% of Brazilians now say that democracy is the best form of government.

We wanted to talk to somebody who could explain this to us and talk down to us because honestly, I know very little about this.

Clarissa Oliveira is with us now.

She is

covering the Brazilian general election in Brazil for the

New York Times, if you will, of Brazil.

Clarissa, welcome to the program.

Thank you, Glenn, for having me.

Sure.

Do we have a reason to be concerned about, let me see, his name is

Bolsonaro?

Bolsonaro, yes.

The fact is that Brazilian voters are now responding to approximately a decade of corruption scandals

and the Workers' Party, that is the party from former President Lula, was deeply impacted in the process.

They are definitely not the sole sole responsibles for these scandals, but as almost every large party in Brazil was reached in some way by the car wash operation, the scandal you mentioned that started in the oil business, this generated in Brazil a completely different situation regarding the political class.

Right.

70% of Brazilians say they don't have faith in any political party, right?

Exactly.

And so what we are seeing here is more of a movement against the Workers' Party and the old way to make politics in Brazil, not only Workers' Party, several traditional parties were impacted in these elections.

And this created an environment that allowed Jair Bolsonaro to grow unexpectedly.

Nobody saw this coming in this way.

I believe every other all the other candidates were expecting him to

stay small at least until the middle of the

first race.

And what happened?

He was a victim of a knife attack and this allowed him to stay far from the cameras and he was kind of protected.

So he wasn't exposed.

And the fact is, I believe

yes,

every country that has relations with Brazil has a reason to be concerned because we still don't have any clarity on how will be a Bolsonaro's government.

We don't know exactly what's coming.

He grew up in a time where there was military rule in Brazil, and

that was overthrown, and democracy came.

And he has hinted in the past that

that's the way you should run a government.

He has called called for in, what, I think, 99, a civil war and the liquidation of about 30,000 Brazilians.

He is extraordinarily divisive, but

he is not talking about a smaller government.

He is talking about a government run by the military, or at least he has in the past, correct?

And he is surrounded by military.

So

his closest advisors today are militaries.

So an exception is Paulo Gellges that is appointed as his Minister of Economy.

This guy is a liberal, so we have several differences regarding President Trump, as you mentioned.

He's a liberal, and he

comes as he had strong relationships with financial markets in Brazil.

So this is the man that he points out as

the base of the trust in his government.

But he said he

it's not clear how he will manage his own team.

He has had some trouble controlling his advisors that have given interviews,

saying things that he had later to unauthorize them.

So

it is possible that he will close down and keep a very close government regarding the press, for example.

He has been using social media as his basic communication tool.

Now,

this is the kind of

the same thing that Hugo Chavez said when he was running the first time.

He said, oh, no, it's not going to be this way.

I'm not going to do it.

And he immediately came in and he started taking over the media and

nationalizing everything.

Is there

Is that what we're looking at?

Are we looking at a dictatorship possibility with him that is a military?

And is it when you say he's liberal, is that is that mean a socialist Marxist?

Or what does that mean exactly in Brazil?

What we expect here, most analysts don't see an immediate risk to democracy as he will take office and immediately he will shut down Congress.

That's not what has been discussed here at this time.

What is expected is that maybe he could uh promote some change in constitution.

Uh it is not clear how he would do it.

He has uh suggested that he could create a council that would uh create a new constitution for Brazil and that would be submitted uh to uh vote for uh after it, so uh in in a council to to people, to uh electors in general.

So it he had to take back this proposal, but it's not clear if he will bring it back once he takes office.

Because the fact is that he is not going to debates.

He is giving just a few interviews.

Usually he controls the process.

He has been speaking mainly through social media, so he has no confrontation from the press.

And this creates an unknown territory.

We don't know what's coming, but analysts, most analysts don't expect something so drastic right at the time, including because in the legislative elections, he got a strong performance

from his allies in Congress.

So we expect that he has some level of governability and he will be able to do some of the changes that he intends to, but we still don't know exactly what would be those changes.

Can you tell me Steve Bannon's involvement in this?

Jai Bolsonaro's son, Eduardo Bolsonaro, he posted online a while back a photo of him next to Bannon and said that Bannon

said he would be glad to help in the campaign or something like this.

This generated a strong repercussion that Bennett was involved and was responsible in a great part of Bolsonaro's strategy.

But Bolsonaro himself came to public afterwards and said it was fake news, that has nothing to do with it.

What we know for a fact is that Bennon has given some indications that he considers Bolsonaro an expression of this right-wing movement that we see in other parts of the world, and he includes Donald Trump in this movement.

So he understands that

it's a clear wave in this direction.

And Bolsonaro would be an expression of this.

But we have no clear indication that he would be involved.

There's a picture of him close to the

presidential candidate's son

and some sort of a message that he took part in this somehow, but we don't know exactly at what point.

And Clarissa, when is the election finalized?

When do we know?

Now, at the end of the month,

on Sunday 28th, we'll have the final results.

It's very likely,

considering the current polls, that Bolsonaro will be elected.

Yesterday we had a recent poll that gave Bolsonaro 59% of valid votes and Fernando Adági, that is the candidate from the Workers' Party, only 41%.

So it's a big difference.

And

Bolsonaro, poll after poll, has indicated that

his electors are very sure of their votes.

So

we would have to have a new fact, something that would be strong enough to change the scenario.

But

it's very likely that he wins the election.

Clarissa, we'll talk to you again after the election and find out some more.

We'll be following.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Okay, thank you so much for having me.

You bet.

What is disturbing about this is his history.

He has a very, very strong history of

dictatorship

love and passion.

And he is not Donald Trump.

He's not.

He has time in the government, and he is on record.

Now, he says he's a changed man.

You know, but this is the way things happen.

You don't come in as a dictator.

You know, even Hitler didn't come in as a dictator.

He came in as a public servant.

And

things are bad in Brazil.

The other thing that we should pay attention to is Steve Bannon.

Steve Bannon is flying all over the world and he is

helping cobble together this

populist movement.

And

populism is neither good nor bad.

It's what are the aims?

And

what are they,

what does someone use populism to get through?

Populism is the Patriot Act.

Make it so it sounds populist.

Make it so it sounds popular.

Make it so it sounds like something everybody will want.

That's populism.

And you can use that for good or evil.

And

in my opinion, Bannon is

on the dark side of this one.

And he is definitely someone to keep your eye on.

And so are all the candidates that he chooses and chooses to engage with.

Because

in the rest of the world, the,

believe it or not, softness

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So I want to get into the Khashoggi case.

This is the case of that Washington Post journalist.

He was a Saudi citizen.

He's not, you know, despite what the journalists will tell you, they leave out the part that he is actually Muslim Brotherhood, and his problem with Saudi Arabia is that they wouldn't, you know, protect or sanction the Muslim Brotherhood.

Well, you know, Saudi Arabia knows who the Muslim Brotherhood is.

And so he had a falling out with the kingdom, and then he had to go get a,

you know,

divorce certificate.

He divorced his wife in Saudi Arabia, had to go into the Saudi embassy in Istanbul, Turkey, and he disappeared.

His fiancé was waiting for him outside.

It appears as though

Saudis came, landed a jet on the tarmac, came with a bunch of empty suitcases and a bone saw, chopped him up and put him in the suitcases, took him out of the embassy, put him on a plane, and he's probably scattered over some desert in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia said that's outlandish, that's crazy, yada, yada.

The Turks went in.

Apparently, there was a massive cleaning crew that went in right before the Turks could go and investigate.

Some more things were leaked by the FBI, or sorry, by the CIA, etc.

And now our Secretary of State is over with the king of Saudi Arabia, and it looks as though they are going to admit that, yes, they did kill him.

But it was an interrogation that just went horribly wrong, and we're going to punish all the people that were involved.

It's like a 24 episode.

Oh, it's crazy.

This is, I mean, this is honestly rear window, Alfred Hitchcock.

This is exactly Alfred Hitchcock with somebody sitting outside going, wait,

I think they chopped her up.

In that case, it's a woman.

I think they chopped her up and then took her away in the middle of the night.

And everybody's like, no, that's crazy.

Well, yep, turns out it was.

And it's the same thing here.

Somebody's sitting outside going, I think they chopped him up and took him out in suitcases.

It is the Hitchcock rear window.

And this has obviously gone very awry for the Saudis because you don't do things like this and expect to admit to an interrogation gone wrong two weeks later.

Like, this is something you do and you deny.

I mean, Russia does this all the time.

They're constantly killing journalists, and they're like, I don't even know who?

I don't even know who that was.

What is polonium?

I've never even heard of the thing.

You know, like that, that's their pattern, and they never admit it.

If Saudi Arabia actually comes out and admits, yeah, we kind of killed that journalist, that's a big moment in geopolitics.

That's not a tiny thing.

Today, or how, today or tomorrow, the way the president answers Saudi Arabia Arabia

when they admit to doing this, this is an ally.

This is one of our bigger backers.

This is probably

our best friend next to Israel in the Middle East.

They stand against a lot of the stuff that we stand against.

They're a big supporter now of Israel.

We're in a proxy war in Yemen with them.

Most people don't even know that, but we're fighting a war in Yemen at their request, and they're fighting with us um they keep iran at bay we're about to sell them a whole buttload of arms they also dump money into our tech industry yeah tech is taking a beating right now because of this um they also dump a lot of money into our banking system uh they also have that cool orb

that which is okay that's okay

was pretty sweet sure okay did the orb predict this do we know that has anyone asked the orb why hasn't anyone interviewed the orb about this incident notice how the orb is

shoggy stuffed inside of it.

He's stuffed inside of the camp.

It could be how they hide stuff.

So

what does the president do?

What do we do?

This is why you don't get involved in these things.

Because it's none of our business.

I mean, I don't want it to be any of our business.

I don't want to have our whole economy and everything else hinge on what they just did.

We don't like that.

We don't want to endorse it.

We don't want to be anywhere near it.

It certainly feels different, but help me quantify the difference here for a minute.

These regimes are killing people all the time.

Yes.

We know bad things are happening all the time, and Saudi Arabia is not innocent of these things.

Is it just because it's a journalist?

Is it just because it was on foreign territory in an embassy?

Is it just because the Washington Post really cares what happens to this guy, so therefore it's become a big issue?

They can go after Kushner and Trump because of the relationship.

What do you think that?

I'd say yes.

On all of that.

I'd say yes to all of that.

I don't think if this guy was a preacher, nobody would have been paying attention.

It barely did.

We got one back and no one seemed to have a camera.

Yeah, nobody seemed to care.

This one, because it's one of theirs,

the press cares more about it, but also foreign soil and, you know, the suitcase thing.

It's a pretty amazing story.

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So, Stu, can you help me war game this a bit?

Talk about this Saudi Arabia thing, because right now Congress is saying we want to slap major sanctions on them

okay um

you know that we're we're at a point to where uh i said

you know back in the early 2000s you're going to get to a point where if you haven't dealt with these problems it's going to be too late and there isn't going to be a single good option you are not going to like the options And so right now, you have people saying, you know, I was going to, we're not going to sell them the arms.

We're going to slap sanctions on them.

They admit this.

This is horrible.

And it is.

It is.

And that's probably what America should do.

However,

let me play devil's advocate.

Oil is already up at 80.

Some oil is headed up to $100 a barrel.

We've pretty much shut down the Texas oil reserves.

I mean, we're slowing them down because of the price of oil.

They couldn't make enough money, so they kind of slowed them down.

We have to open those things back up again, which we can do.

But we're not held hostage by oil, but a spike, a severe spike, $120, $140 a barrel, that's what collapsed us last time in 2008, was a spike to $130 or $140 a barrel.

You also have Turkey.

This is coming from Turkey and Istanbul.

Turkey is no fan of Saudi Arabia.

The balance of power with Turkey is a little frightening.

Economically, the Saudi royal funds are

big in Silicon Valley, and that's one of the reasons why our stock market is taking a hit, at least in the tech sector.

Because they think if this goes the wrong way, then

the funding is not going to come from Saudi Arabia anymore.

And where are they going to go to get it?

Now, obviously, there was other places for them to get money for the tech industry, but it was easy money from the Saudis.

It was easy to get.

They had plenty of it.

They were looking to invest it.

And when you lose a huge source of funding like that, it's, you know, it can hurt the industry.

You also have Saudi Arabia being the massive check on

Iran.

If they are weakened, if

they are weakened in the area, not only with Iran, but also the Muslim Brotherhood, that's a significant force in our favor in that.

Yeah, I mean, Saudi Arabia has remained the least bad option in the region for a while.

Next to Israel.

Israel.

Israel and Jordan.

There's others that I would say are better options, but with that amount of power

and,

again, credibility in the Arab world.

Obviously, Israel doesn't necessarily have that.

But Saudi Arabia

is the big

sort of backstop, right?

So what do we do?

We can stop the worst of the things that are going on.

Your president is President Stu.

What do you do today?

I

resign.

No,

I think

you have to figure, first of all, we need, I would certainly, the first thing I would do is have more information than I currently do.

I say you're over there with the king and the king says, oh, geez, screw up, total screw up.

This guy, they were out of control.

You know, I wanted him brought over here.

They got out of control.

They started torturing him for answers.

He died.

Then they just chopped him up, put him in a suitcase.

Yes, all of of that stuff is true, and I can't believe, and these guys, they've all already dead or whatever.

You know, but yes, we did it.

Jeez, I mean,

I think you, at the very least, are going to do something public, right?

You're going to do potentially sanctions or something of that nature.

You're probably also going to tell them they need to be incredibly

open about punishing these people and sending that signal.

And I think

you probably wind up,

as a president, with everything that you have to deal with.

I mean, I think it's okay to take a stand and say, you know, this sort of stuff can't happen anymore.

We still have relations with a lot of countries who have done much worse than killing one journalist, as sad as that is.

I mean, this is, you know,

this happens

over the world.

This guy is not just a journalist.

He is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

That's really the problem here: is that

they believe that he was

helping the Muslim Brotherhood against Saudi Arabia and possibly even helping the Muslim Brotherhood here in the United States.

So he's not just a journalist.

Let's clear that up.

This isn't Saudi Arabia.

He's a columnist, really, right?

Yeah, and it's not that they were killing him because he was a journalist, but because of his ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

We think.

I mean,

it's literally impossible to be able to judge all the moving parts behind the scenes that we don't know about.

Right.

And, you know, that's just why you, this is why you hire a president that you trust, and, you know, this is why you vote, right?

Because it's these situations.

We know this with Bush.

I mean, you met with him during the war, and he informed you of nothing top secret or anything, but a lot of the different

things that you had to consider when making these decisions.

And, you know, it's easy to say, well, we should just never talk to Saudi Arabia again and throw them out.

There's a lot of things behind the scenes that they're doing.

For example, helping in the fight against terrorism.

They've been,

while obviously, as we all know, 9-11, many of the people came from Saudi Arabia, there's been all sorts of questions on that.

And we've talked about distancing ourselves for a long time.

And this is probably a great opportunity to do that a little bit.

But, you know, there's a...

There have been, they've also arrested and killed a lot of terrorists

that have assisted us over the years as well

on those efforts.

So, I mean, it's a tough one.

I think

you have have to send the signal.

You have to make sure, I think, probably sanctions or something, if this is actually proven,

you have to do something publicly.

But you look at, I mean, Russia's done terrible things like that, and

we haven't acted anymore.

Not selling arms to Russia.

No, no, it's true.

Not selling arms to Russia.

And, you know, the idea that, okay, well, arms sales help jobs is not a great argument.

This is the one thing that we have to, we can't really consider the economy first when you're talking about arms sales.

Yeah.

but i you know i think taking that step of of probably sanctions and maybe that's what it is maybe it's arms um is this going to be an important really really important decision for us what does president glenn do um first i go back in history and i look at uh the archduke ferdinand moment because this is the exact kind of moment that the world thinks is no big deal that could spiral out of control so quickly.

I send my Secretary of State over, which is exactly what Trump did yesterday.

I gather all of the evidence, and then I am as strong as I possibly can,

understanding and weighing everything

that is currently going on, trying not to weaken them, but not necessarily empower them

as well, and try to get myself out of it in a long-term strategy of getting away from the bad guys.

And I think, you know, we're both going back and forth a little bit because we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

There's not enough information to make this decision logically.

But what I'll say is that while I am not a fan at all of this slogan

America first, and I think it has a terrible history,

in this situation, that is your priority here: to make sure that whatever happens is whatever is in America's best interests.

You can't start a war.

You can't start,

you can't go crazy just to make a statement if the long-term effect of this is a negative for the United States, we've seen this with North Korea, right?

Like, I mean, North Korea, you can, I think, make a serious argument that, and I don't think Trump wants to go out there and be talking about how he loves Kim Jong-un publicly.

I think he thinks that's the best way to avoid negative consequences.

And if I got to say a bunch of words to make this better, good.

We were saying this last night on the news of Why It Matters.

Again, South Korea, the time to take care of that was under the Bush administration.

We didn't.

Or Clinton.

Or Clinton.

We didn't do it.

And now you're in a situation where you have no good options.

Well, welcome to the world that we ourselves created or allowed it to be created for us.

Same situation in Saudi Arabia.

Let me go to Chad quickly in South Carolina.

Hello, Chad.

Good morning.

How are you, sir?

Very good.

How are you doing?

Good.

How are you?

Doing great.

Just letting you know how much I'm enjoying the book, Addicted Outrage, so far.

Thank you.

I've only gotten to chapter three because my girlfriend just bought me the book yesterday.

I just want to tell you, so relatable.

As you open up and say, describe yourself as an optimistic catastrophist.

I could not relate to that more.

You have to have trouble showing people maybe the silver lining whenever you're highlighting the negative aspects.

But behind it are all of the ways that you can improve.

I think it's a great book so far, and I'm looking forward to reading the rest of it.

But I'd like to get it autographed.

I just did.

I just made one to you, Chad.

We'll send it off in the mail.

Chad, do me a favor.

Call me when you're done.

I'd like to hear what you think at the end.

Okay.

All right, brother.

Thanks a lot.

Bye-bye.

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Have you seen a Starsborn yet?

No, my wife did, though.

She loved it.

Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga both deserve an Oscar.

And nobody deserves an Oscar because you have to go.

You know what I mean?

I don't wish that on anybody.

You're punishing both Bradley Cooper.

Well, they both should be punished with an Oscar.

No, they're just phenomenal.

He is as good at singing as she is at acting.

It's incredible.

And just a great story.

I saw it with my wife on Friday, and we went, and there was a whole row of 40-something-year-old women all coming in with a glass of wine.

And

it wasn't pretty.

It wasn't pretty.

You know, they just wanted him with his shirt off, and it just wasn't.

It was stun.

And they drank, and they drank, and they drank, and they drank.

And when we walked out, I'm not going to give away anything, but it happens in his home at a garage with the last couple of scenes.

And, you know,

it's kind of the climax of the whole movie.

And, uh, and you, you know, it, it kind of is a thread that weaves throughout the entire movie.

Okay.

And they were standing in the lobby on the end going, I don't, I don't, I don't, I didn't, what, what, what happened in the garage?

What happened?

And they're like, and the other one's like, I don't know.

I didn't understand it.

I'm like, oh my gosh.

How did you, they were so blasted.

But this is why you don't know.

They did see him with his shirt off, so that was good for them.

Stay away from alcohol.

Yeah, I know.

He could do some.

It's really good.

You should see it.

Yeah, and it did, it's doing very well,

at least as far as the reviews go.

People are talking about it as a big-time Oscar movie.

Have you seen, what is it, First Didn't?

First Man.

First Man.

Have you seen that?

I haven't.

Though I'm fascinated by the sort of cultural controversy surrounding that movie, which I mean, we talked about it when the story came out, that they didn't put the scene of them planting the flag in the moon

in the movie, which is the iconic moment of this story.

But the argument was it's not, it's showing, it's making it into a global thing.

And I said, if they have the patches of the flag on their arms, they have the USA on the rocket and the flag on the

lunar lander, what's the problem?

Right.

It's an odd choice, I thought.

It's the iconic moment of that movie.

Why wouldn't you put it in the movie?

It's the iconic moment of that whole situation.

I don't think so.

I think the iconic moment is the one step for man.

That's another one.

Yeah.

I mean, there's a couple.

Yeah.

But now, now I've not seen the movie, but there's a couple articles that are out talking about the flag.

And first of all, the flag's all over the movie.

I mean, they can cite 15, 20 examples of the flag all over the place.

And some of it is like just a patch or it's the, you know, which you'd kind of understand would be really obvious if they took it out.

But it's not even only just that.

For example, apparently, they don't show them planting the flag into the moon.

However, in the scene, you can see the flag planted in the moon in the background.

Like it's already been planted there, and they show it.

It's not like they're avoiding the flag, they just don't show that moment.

Not good enough.

What if those 40-year-old women are there?

They're like, I don't understand.

How did the flag get there?

Was it there already?

Did somebody else come and put it in there?

How did they even get there?

A couple bottles of Chardonnay.

You might not understand this, but I mean, are we not just a victim here of

addiction?

Ediction and outrage?

Right?

This does not seem to be a thing.

No, most of it's not.

Most of it's not.

This, okay.

Today there's a tweet from Donald Trump.

Oh, did he say something crazy?

Of course he did.

It's a tweet from Donald Trump.

Today we're also talking about

Elizabeth Warren's Cherokee heritage.

Why does this matter?

Why does this matter?

I mean, you know, again, we have the Saudi Arabia thing going on that is much more important.

I mean, you know, not to mention that we're going to hit a trillion dollars in debt again for this year.

Another trillion dollars in debt.

There's no sign of that letting off, despite the fact that we are in a good economy.

We're popping a trillion plus on the books when the unemployment rate is almost at full employment.

We're almost at the peak of our employment situation.

We are at a point where we are the stock market, despite a couple of bad days this week, has been raging for a very long time.

Housing prices are up.

Everything is pointing in the right direction, and we're still throwing a trillion dollars on the fire.

Let me just put this up, this new banner from CNN.

A disappearance of journalists put spotlight on Trump's business ties.

He is because candidate Trump talked about

doing business with the Saudi Arabians.

Yes, he's talked about that for a very long time.

Oh my gosh.

Are you kidding me?

Now,

the only reason why they care about the Saudi Arabian thing, forget about you, forget about gas prices, forget about the economy, forget about the tech sector, forget about all of that.

This is just another way for them to talk about Donald Trump.

Don't play that game.

Just don't play that game.

I wish I cared about anything in the world as much as CNN cares about what Donald Trump tweets.

I mean, they are absolutely chemically obsessed with this man.

They are.

It's incredible.

They are chemically addicted.

They cannot break the spell.

And unfortunately, the one who loses in that is them.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.