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We start with what's happening really in Saudi Arabia.

You know, everybody loves this.

Oh, he's a Washington Post reporter.

He was a great guy, really?

The guy that probably was hacked to death by the Saudis.

We're going to tell you the part of the story that nobody knows.

Doesn't change good guy and bad guy.

It just kind of makes it more like bad guy versus bad guy.

We'll give you that.

Also, Bill Bill O'Reilly is on yep O'Reilly's book came out this week killing the SS

you can buy it in tandem with addicted to outrage and bookstores everywhere so he's on gives us the you know the you know his take on all the big news events of the week and we have a big blaze announcement today some new shows starting some exciting new things beginning and Steve Dace who still is working for CRTV but is also doing another show for us

he begins on Monday he joined us and he made my head hurt a little bit Wicked, wicked, smart, and very fascinating on his take on what's happening to the left right now.

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the best of the Glen Beck program.

It's Friday, October 12th.

Glen Beck.

I don't.

Did you see the post from Steve Carell?

Did you see this?

I love it.

I love it.

This is exactly where we are as a society.

Because the office is on Netflix and replaying, a lot more people have seen it recently, and I think because of that, there's been a resurgence in interest in the show and talk about bringing it back.

But apart from the fact that I just don't think that's a good idea, it might be impossible to do the show today and have people accept it the way it was accepted ten years ago.

The climate is different.

I mean, the whole idea of that character, Michael Scott, so much of it was predicted on inappropriate behavior.

I mean, he's certainly not a model boss.

And a lot of what is depicted on that show is completely wrong-minded.

That's the point, you know?

But I just don't know how it would fly now.

There's very high awareness of offensive things today, which is good for sure.

But at the same time, when you take a character like that too literally, it doesn't really work.

He's right.

100% right on that comment.

He's weak.

Oh, I disagree.

I think he's pointing.

I think he's criticizing.

Do you?

Yeah, I do.

I actually legitimately do think he's criticizing this climate.

Obviously, he agrees with Me Too and everything else, but I think think

the point of me too.

We all agree that women should not have to deal with this non-conference.

But I mean, I think what he's saying is, I don't even think you could, like, it's like Microsoft.

Remember, Bill Gates?

I don't even think you could start Microsoft today.

I think that's what he's saying.

I think he's saying, I don't even think you could start the office today.

People would be too offended.

It wouldn't even work.

So

let me go here.

I'm going to take you to Ithaca College.

Ithaca College, brand new holiday in America, according to Ithaca College.

And we all must support it now.

Sure, you didn't know you needed another holiday, but you do.

It's International Pronouns Day.

Now, it hasn't gone nationwide yet because it was just invented.

But

if Ithaca College and the mayor of Ithaca, New York have anything to do with it, this is going to be a treasured holiday.

Your kids will say, where were you?

When they first started International Pronouns Day, and you'll say, kids,

well, I was on the cliff of of insanity.

I wasn't.

In hell is where I was.

If you judge a book by a cover, you might think Pronouns Day celebrates the joy of good grammar, but no, no, you'd be totally wrong.

Pronouns Day is going to celebrate the LGBTQI community and highlight how insidious structural racism, misogyny, and classism all interweaves together and how it causes oppression.

See, that's our our thing now.

You go to college,

not to learn how to,

you know,

make things, build things, do things.

No, no, no.

You go to college now to figure out how oppressed you are.

Oh my gosh.

I hate to spoil a good holiday, but the

focus on oppression sounds a lot like

the airing of grievances.

which, as any fan of Seinfeld will tell you, is a,

you know, part of another made-up holiday called Festivus.

So I don't know if I need to point that out.

New holiday is the brainchild of Ithaca College's Center for LGBT.

Oh, wait a minute.

They didn't use the Q and the I?

Oh, my God.

I am so offended.

It's just the LGBT Education, Outreach, and Services with the support of Ithaca's mayor's office.

The International Pronouns Day website explains: referring to people by the pronouns they determine for themselves is basic human dignity.

You know

I am a I am a one-winged purple dragon, and you will refer to me as that from here on now, from here on out.

Being referred to by the wrong pronouns particularly affects transgender and gender non-conforming people.

Together we can transform society to celebrate people's multiple intersecting identities.

Oh, man.

You know, I try to be a good person.

I really do.

I try to be a peaceful person.

I try to let

Jesus and Martin Luther King and Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln and all of those great men really kind of guide my life.

And then I read something like this, and all I can think of is: shut up.

Shut up.

So I apologize in advance for even thinking that.

Oh boy, I hope I'm not deplatformed.

Oh my.

Oh geez.

If Google could just start installing fMRIs in all of our devices, they would be able to read our minds and be able to see who's good and bad and who should be deplatformed and silenced and quite quite frankly, perhaps liquidated.

Now, uh the director of the Ithaca College LGBT, I don't know if you're Q and I how you feel about this place, but the LGBT Center says this holiday is not just important.

It is required.

It is required that we all call people by the pronouns they wish to use

to confer basic dignity and respect.

So compelled speech.

We're no longer into freedom of speech.

You can't speak your mind, but if you don't speak someone else's mind,

hasta la pasta.

Oh my gosh, I've just

appropriated both Mexico and Italy.

The horror of it all.

It is required now.

So

I don't know if this holiday comes with a handy pronoun guide, but it should never be written down on paper because it is going to change every single day.

It's impossible for those of us who are stuck in the he and she world.

You know, it's old fights that just say a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

Oh, a show out of church.

Oh, and dangerous, I'll tell you that right now.

International Pronouns Day

makes its debut next Wednesday, October 17th.

So let me be the first to tell you

there's only five more shopping days left.

The best of the Glenbeck program.

I want to start

a pro-Melania Trump,

I don't know, group, something.

I don't know.

She is the most elegant first lady we have had since Jackie O.

She's not been on any cover of any magazine.

She hasn't, nobody says anything nice about her.

Nobody says

it's incredible.

When she was out just recently, last week in where, Africa, and this was a Ralph Lorentz photo shoot.

It was some of the most beautiful photos.

She was in Egypt

in front of the pyramids.

It was incredible.

So beautiful, so tasteful.

Nothing.

You know, this is, it's not a major issue, obviously, per se, as you compare it to others.

But what I honestly think it is the most pure example we have of media bias.

It is in my book.

That's the McDonald's french fry.

Remember what I'm saying?

You don't remember that part when I said if everybody says they hate McDonald's, okay, that's fine.

But if you can't admit that you like their french fries or that they make the kick-ass fresh fries that they do, then you have no credibility.

Melania Trump is the McDonald's french fry.

I'm shocked you brought it to fast food.

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Back, how you doing?

I am very good.

I'm very good.

There is an interview with our first lady today, and I believe our first lady has displayed grace and

great composure.

And I don't care how you feel about the president.

I think enough is enough.

with Melania Trump.

Yeah, I mean, I don't see her

a position where she's being vilified on a daily basis by the press.

They snipe at her.

I've known her for a long time.

Very charming woman, very intelligent,

loves children.

I think she's done a very good job as first lady, and there's really no reason to disparage Melania Trump.

You know,

my breaking point was last week when she was over in Egypt and she was over in Africa.

Yeah.

And the photos coming back of her were beautiful.

I mean, it was a Ralph Loren photo spread.

And all the press could do was if they published any of those photos,

they just tore her down for colonialism and all this crap.

Colonialism.

I know.

And then here she is.

Hang on.

The most beautiful woman in the Oval Office with the greatest style since Jackie O.

They loved Camelot and her style.

She She was on the cover of every fashion magazine, but no fashion magazine will put Melania Trump on.

No, of course not.

And they couldn't go out to their cocktail parties and all that.

You did your commentary on the political correctness, the 8%.

But, Beck,

you left out some really big thing.

This could never have happened without the open support of the media.

Yes.

I put the media in that 8%.

Hey, let me just tell you

a quick story, okay?

All right.

So this week I've been doing a lot of promotion for Killing the SS, which came out on Tuesday.

And in that promotion, I'm basically saying

that we in America are seeing a rise of hate and evil.

And I tie it in a number of ways.

One of the ways that I tied it in was that George Soros and his crew have bought up about 20 packs, political action committees, and

they send them out on missions.

And one of those missions was Senator Flake in the elevator with the CNN camera right behind the woman screaming at him because she was a victim of something and he was an idiot for not siding with her.

Who's the woman?

The woman's an activist in a Soros PAC making $175,000 a year.

All right, so I tell that story, which is entirely accurate, 100% correct, and Media Matters within a half an hour says that I compared the woman to the Third Reich.

Okay?

Now, that's what's going on here.

That's what's in play.

So the 8% progressive zealot fanatics could never

have imposed anything on this country without the media taking up their cause and actually doing the dirty work.

I put the media in that 8%.

It is the reason why it has swept the country.

It is, you're right, because of the media, but they are part of that 8%.

Look what happened to Kanye West, my favorite guy of all time.

Okay?

Yeah.

So Kanye West, who I met, I didn't really meet him.

I was in an elevator with him at Madison Square Garden one time.

He had short pants on and he was brooding.

Right.

Okay.

So he goes on Saturday Night Live, which is staked out territory to destroy Donald Trump because it's good for Saturday Night Live's ratings.

That's why they do it.

All right?

So Kanye gets invited to go on.

He wears the Make America Great Again hat, and no one likes him.

And he's shunned, and

he's brooding again because he's being bullied by Saturday Night Live.

Okay, fine.

Then, because of that, Trump invites him to the Oval Office, where Kanye walks in with the hat and does Lombarda with the president or whatever they did.

Okay?

Now, why does anyone care?

Why?

Thank you for saying that.

TNN's all day.

Yeah, I know.

He's talking about what he wants to do by Kanye West.

Now, Taylor Swift, she comes out against Trump.

All right?

And she's telling everybody in Tennessee, I am out against him.

So Taylor Swift and Kanye West, do I care what they think about geopolitics in any regard?

Beck, the answer is no, I don't.

And no one else does either.

But this is a tremendous example of political correctness that Kanye West is going against the PC, so he must be vilified.

So I want to

come back because I need to, maybe you should get a cup of coffee in or something.

I need you to get a little

more animated here, Bill.

But when we come back, I want to ask you about, because you follow ratings, the ratings are falling apart.

Let's look at the numbers of, you know, from like Betto

and others that are running in the Senate.

The numbers seem to be falling apart.

I think that there is a change afoot, and the Democrats don't see it.

And when they get their head handed to them by the people, I think they're going to double down yet again.

We'll get Bill O'Reilly's comment on that coming up in just a second.

Bill O'Reilly from billo'reilly.com.

His new book is out.

It is is killing the SS, and it is really good.

It's worth the read.

Pick it up and read it.

It's really, really good.

Yeah, Senate polls have been really good for Republicans since the Kavanaugh thing, which I don't know if that's a huge surprise to anybody, but I mean, you know, Betto is now down by, looks like eight to Ted Cruz, which is, you know, about double the lead he had before then.

And then as Bill mentioned, Taylor Swift comes out and talks about how bad Marsha Blackburn is.

Latest poll has her up by 14 in what was thought to be a toss-up race.

Yeah, I mean, it's, I don't think the Democrats are learning their lesson, and yet they're doubling down, Bill.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on what Eric Holder said this week and Hillary Clinton.

Yeah,

I paid more attention to what Kanye West and Taylor Swift said than

Hillary Clinton and

Holder.

I know.

Dennis Miller thinks that Eric Holder is really Stedman, Oprah's boyfriend, and they look alike.

You should put that up on the blaze side by side.

Anyway,

there's a few interesting things in play here.

Betto has raised $38 million

in the last six months or so, which breaks every work in the world.

Where's that money coming from?

It's coming from

Soros and his guys and the Hollywood people and all of that.

So he'll stay competitive.

I think he'll lose.

Hang on, let me stop there.

Go

I've met people who have given to both sides millions of dollars.

They're not happy with the party that loses.

When you give a lot of money and the party says, no, this is the one, this is going to change everything, and then you lose, especially if they lose by eight points.

But those are normal people.

I'm talking about the real shadowy guys.

That's what Spedo's getting.

He's getting that big Soros money coming in.

I guess, maybe, yeah.

And he doesn't,

they just want, you know, search and destroy.

So I think that, you know, I agree with you, Beck, and that always hurts my toes when I say that,

that there is a backlash and that the Kavanaugh spectacle alienated decent, and when I say decent, I mean fair-minded people.

Yeah, both Democrat and Republican.

You know, when you have, and I, and I bring this up a lot,

no one working for you and no one working for me could have tweeted out, well, Kavanaugh was confirmed, but at least we destroyed his life.

Remember that tweet?

Yes.

Who did it come from?

Came from Letterman's writers.

Colbert.

Or Colbert.

You're right.

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Sorry.

Okay.

One of the writers for Letterman for Colbert.

Both insane.

One of the writers for Colbert tweeted that out.

Okay.

One of the most hateful things I've ever seen.

So if that happened in your organization, my organization, then that person wouldn't be working for you.

If we would have tweeted out, but at least we got Ford,

at least we really destroyed her, it would have been a horror show.

The person would not be working today.

And they probably couldn't go out of the house.

So people know this.

Even if you like Colbert, which I don't,

even if you are sympathetic to Dr.

Ford and all of that Me Too stuff, even if you're buying into it, you've got to know, all right, that the rhetoric and the plan to destroy human beings is not what America is all about.

Yes.

It's not.

And, you know, when you think in history, Stalin and Hitler and what they did by destroying their opposition, you know, later on it was physically, but in the beginning, they couldn't murder people.

But they did it other ways.

And that's exactly what we're seeing here in America.

The hate is rising, the fear is rising, all of this is in play.

And guys like you and I, unfortunately, we have to fight against this, and then that puts us in the kill zone.

But to get back to the politics, I do think there's going to be a backlash.

I'm not sure about the House of Representatives, but the Senate, I believe, will

be even more Republican than it is now.

So

let me ask you this: this.

If they do have,

they lose the Senate, where just a few weeks ago,

the person who was in the best position to win for the Republicans was Ted Cruz, and he was only one or two points ahead of Betto.

So he was in the best position.

Now it looks like they could, I mean, if it's a good day, they could end up with a majority of 54, 55.

That's significant.

If, especially with, you know, Donald Trump as president, the most hated man of all time.

If

they do lose, do you think they will say, okay, wait a minute, this democratic socialism, this anger, and all that?

They're never going to do that.

They're going to go harder, don't you think?

Of course.

I mean, these people are really, really deranged.

And there are some on the right like that as well, but not nearly

the numbers on the left.

And of course, the media promotes that.

But if they win, the Democrats win the House, then that's all you're going to hear.

You're not going to hear anything about the Senate.

Yes.

And the House, you know, that's a little shaky because as everybody knows, the first term in Clinton, the first term in Obama,

they lost.

You always do.

And the opposition party

won the House.

Right.

And it's the way Americans usually vote.

Yeah.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

On the podcast this weekend, and you can get this podcast anywhere you find podcasts now on Spotify as well.

This weekend, Eric Bowling, a one-on-one, a conversation about

what happened with his son and how it affected him.

I'll add one more to that.

I lost my faith that day too, Glenn.

I had gone to church five days a week during the week and every Sunday.

September

8th of 2017 was the last day I went to church.

Early in the day, I had spent a long time going back and forth with Fox, with lawyers, trying to figure out where I was going to go forward, what was going to happen.

And we came upon an idea that we were going to separate.

I was separating from Fox.

They said amicably separating.

Bowling and Fox are amicably separating.

And I looked at it on that day as a new beginning.

Go start and go find another job somewhere and life's going to be great.

And you were going to sue.

I didn't know what I was going to do, Glenn.

I will tell you that

whatever was written about me was false, patently false.

It was...

a lie.

It never happened, and no one has ever, ever come forward.

It was all anonymous sourcing.

Make a long story story short, my lawyer said, it's probably time to just cut ties with Fox and move on and go find another job.

This could go on forever.

And frankly,

my family was going to be dragged through the mud for a long time.

So I decided that that was the thing to do.

We cut ties around 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

It was a Friday before a long weekend, before Labor Day.

I took my wife out to dinner that night, and we were going to celebrate.

The owner of the restaurant came over and said, hey, you know, congratulations.

It's a new start.

We had a nice drink.

On the way home, we got the call.

We were driving home, and

my phone rang.

There's a young man on the other side of the phone saying, Mr.

Bowling, call

your son, call Eric right away.

I said, What's wrong?

He said, Just call Eric right away.

I called over there, and a girl answered, and her name was Kayla.

He had been seeing her on and off.

She was crying.

And for some reason, I just went right to,

Is he alive?

She said no

that was uh that was a rough day.

The next day, went to Colorado

and the president called me.

He says, Anything we can do for you?

I said, no,

thank you.

But at that day, I realized that he cared.

And so, for the next few months, I made it my mission to create awareness around opioids.

Eric

bought a Xanax on campus

and was laced with fentanyl and had killed.

So,

yeah, so that was that day.

And so now we are a year and two days after that, and

it's been a rough go.

We can stop at any time if you don't want to talk about anything.

So

I think it's just an important story to

tell.

When you said,

is he alive,

why?

Were there indications or was it just a dad feeling?

It was a feeling.

Who gets a call at 10.30 at night and is told to call your son right away without explaining why?

And I just had the hunch, and sure enough, the hunch turned out to be true.

So

it turns out he was, he bought a Xanax on campus that was laced with fentanyl.

It wasn't the prescriptive Xanax.

He didn't know, and he passed, and it was an accidental overdose.

So the question you asked me, was I going to sue Fox, at that moment, I had no fight in me to do anything.

So we spent, my wife and I just got very close, and we spent the better part of the next year just talking to other parents, talking any opportunity we could to get the word out that it's an epidemic.

Excuse me.

Parents need to know that their children are at risk.

And it's a

massive epidemic in the country.

Young kids need to know that one pill can kill you.

They're not sure what you're ever taking.

And parents need to know that your child isn't too smart, too popular, too athletic to be exposed to potentially dying from an overdose.

It's a very emotional and I think important

interview.

There are places that I want to go and Eric has promised to come back, but I didn't want to dogpile.

We recorded this on September, I think, 10th,

and it was just a few days after the one-year anniversary, and he was very, very, very raw.

It's the first time that he has really spoken out about it and what his thoughts are.

And I think everybody,

no matter what side you're on on the opioid thing, I mean,

I got an emotional call yesterday from somebody on the TV show that said, thank you for speaking up for opioids, because there are those of us who we cannot live without them.

We can't, this woman said because of her disease, she can't even sit up in bed and she's bedridden without the opioid.

There are,

you know,

all of these things.

They're double-edged swords.

They're good when they're used properly, and they are deadly when they are abused.

And it's up to each of us

to know what we're dealing with.

And they are deadly.

That podcast also goes into his relationship with the president and what he has seen of the president.

And it's a very fascinating interview with Eric Bowling.

You can find that podcast wherever you download your podcast, iTunes, now on Spotify, but everywhere.

The Glenn Beck podcast.

They come out every Saturday, a different interview with somebody who is truly fascinating.

Glenn, back.

You're listening to the best of the Glendeck program.

I have a quick announcement announcement to make for the Blaze.

The Blaze Radio Network is a very fast and growing, a very big and fast-growing network of people that are listening all around the country who would like, you know, sometimes

a strong look

at the news and also a funny look at the news.

And today we're announcing a couple of changes.

If you happen to have listened to the Blaze Radio Network, you know that we always had the Morning Blaze with Doc Thompson.

Doc's been with us for a long time.

If you ever listened to him, you know his entrepreneurial spirit.

And he, for a long time, has wanted to start his own thing.

And he has, and he built it while he was working here, and we all knew about it.

It's Mojo, I think.

Mojo 5-0.

Mojo 5-0.

And it is

something, it's his own thing.

How could I not, how could I do anything but love a guy who says, I want to strike out on my own?

Yeah, that's great.

Good for you.

And so we wish him all the success in the world, and we wish him the very, very best on Mojo 5.0.

That left an opening.

Well, we happen to have the best morning guy in the country.

You know, I know I'm doing it,

but I'm kind of locked down to this one.

So I had to find the second best morning guy in the country.

And that is, of course, Pat Gray.

So Pat is going to be moving moving to mornings, but you can still hear him on his podcast and everything else.

And you'll hear him in the mornings preceding this program.

Then to replace Pat Gray, who is very hard to replace because he is not only funny and entertaining, but he also has a great intellect and truly understands

our founding and the founding principles.

So we wanted somebody with some real meat on the bones.

And a guy who I have really grown to love, but he already had another job, is Steve Dace.

Steve works for CRTV,

but we have convinced CR-TV to also kind of, it's kind of like a Warner Brothers and, you know, the old Paramount Studios deal where we're like, okay, well, you can use our star for this movie.

And we've convinced them to let us use Steve to do a program immediately after this.

And welcome to the program now, Steve Dace.

How are you?

I'm doing well.

Good to see you guys.

And we're really, really excited about this.

It starts on Monday.

Yeah, starts on Monday.

He's still going to be on CRTV.

He's still going to be doing a CR-TV thing, but he's doing two hours for us every day.

If they don't know who you are, explain who you are.

I think, you know,

we have a slightly different way of doing things than what you will probably typically hear in conservative talk radio.

One is we're mindful of the things we're actually trying to conserve because kind of nowadays conservative means I'm not a communist.

So we keep moving that bar.

But you were just moving it with Pat.

When you say he was the second best one, here's what I didn't tell you, Pat.

He's number one, and then space bar, space bar, space bar, you're number two, right?

It's called moving the bar.

This is why he is a genius.

So, you know, we actually talk about the things we're trying to conserve, the values and virtues that made America exceptional and where they came from in the first place.

We like to start arguments even more than we like to win them because we think that one of the big problems in our country, there's this idea that we're really divided and we're arguing all the time.

Guys, we're not arguing at all.

I mean, what we're doing is we're grabbing 17 burner accounts on social media, calling each other anonymous names,

returning to the

fart factory

of the smell that we prefer of our own tribe, and to never retreat from our own native sweat lodge, convinced we're right about absolutely everything, while we're lobbing verbal bombs at our neighbor over there we never talk to, and we're calling that an argument.

Okay, I actually think we need some real arguments, we actually need to have both sides come out.

You know, I kind of think the truth is its own reward, and the truth is our friend.

And I am perfectly fine having a truthful conversation with people on the other side.

So, can you have

because I've started having them myself.

I had Dr.

Deborah So

in studio this weekend or this last week.

We had Dave Rubin.

Who else, Stu, here recently?

Michael Reckenwald.

Michael Reckinwald is a guy who used to write for the communist newsletter.

And we don't agree on everything.

But I'm looking for the people who you can't have a conversation with somebody

whose goal it is to say

rights apply to certain people and not to others.

Isn't there a there is a line of who you can have a conversation with.

There is.

And, you know, we try to equip our audience to see some of those lines.

And I think we need to understand two distinctions in our culture today, gentlemen.

We need to understand the distinction between an opponent and an enemy and a liberal and a leftist.

An opponent is someone who disagrees with you, maybe even vehemently, and will do whatever they can within the boundaries of,

you know, what's acceptable in terms of cultural warfare to defeat your ideas in the arena of ideas.

An enemy is somebody who wants to end you.

An enemy is somebody who has no interest in sharing a neighborhood with you.

sharing a school with you, a little league game with you, an office building with you.

And then you look at what's the difference between a liberal and a leftist.

You know, a liberal is somebody that wants government to permit you to do things God says are immoral and dumb.

A leftist is somebody that wants government to compel you to do those things.

And if you will not do those things that God says are immoral and dumb, then you, as Eric Erickson likes to say, you will be made to care.

The full coercive power of government will be brought down upon thee because

resistance is futile.

And you're watching this existential transition happening on the left in our culture.

And

there aren't really too many liberals anymore.

The reason why you're struggling to find people to have these conversations with in the media arena where we work is there's not too many of them left.

I think there are, though, outside of the menu.

Outside of the media arena, I agree that there are.

You know, I think.

That's what people

think that I want to have conversations with, you know, I want to, you're going to bring in so-and-so and you're going to have a conversation with them.

You can't talk to them.

No, Nancy Pelosi, I can't talk to them.

She has no interest in talking to you.

She has no no interest in them.

She wants to end you.

She doesn't want to share a country with you.

The best thing is that you could possibly say, the most charitable thing on both sides is they just want to win.

So they'll do anything to win.

And some of them will go so far as when they leave the room, go, that guy's got to be stopped.

And that's dangerous.

But that's not who I'm talking about.

Now, I talk about my mom a lot because she had me at 15.

She got pregnant with me at 14.

She found out she was pregnant with me Christmas break, 1972.

And Roe v.

Wade happens a month later, and she decides not to have an abortion.

And so my mom and I literally grew up together.

And, you know, I become this Alex Peketon wannabe kid of the 80s.

And she's your typical single mom.

Government should do for people what they can't do for themselves, you know, and

has a different view of politics than me.

And for many years, we couldn't talk about politics.

And so as I started growing more in conservative media, we just agreed we wouldn't bring it up when we got together as a family because it got in the way of everything.

Funny things happened the last few years, though, guys.

She is bringing it up now to me.

And she's semi-retired now because of medical disability.

And so she watched a lot of what's on your screens.

I don't watch any cable news at all, frankly.

I can't ingest it.

Do you?

Do you watch it?

Never.

Do you watch it?

Except when I'm on the air.

Just for updates.

Unless it's.

Hang on just a second.

I want the audience to know.

That's unheard of in our business.

That you could not have done this job

without watching cable news three years ago.

Right.

I mean, I keep up on clips that go viral in social media.

But long form, it's just toxic ingestion into the veins.

My mom watches a lot more of this.

She actually likes your show quite a bit, actually.

She's a brilliant woman.

But one of the things, she came to me one day before the 2012 election.

And she brought it up.

She started bringing politics up to me

unprovoked.

And she said, I was so happy when Barack Obama won in 08 that we had shattered the racial ceiling.

And out of the blue, she said to me, she goes, I wonder sometimes when I watch the things he says and he does, if he's actually a communist.

I mean, this just blew me away.

Wow.

Okay.

And I watched the way, you know, my mom is one of those people that likes Obamacare, thinks that Medicare for all is okay.

We need to be able to provide things like healthcare for people.

She's not fine with if you don't change your religion for the government, we shut you down and put you in jail.

She's not fine with we get $500 million a year of your money to play in parenthood.

She's not fine with that stuff.

So

I've recently come to this feeling that we have caused problems

of communication because we have seen Obamacare and

we know those who designed it.

We know they want single-payer health care.

We know that they are socialists that are drawing this up.

But the people who, like your mom and the regular people on the on the liberal side, on the democratic side, they're not for communism.

They're not for the end of capitalism.

They just believe in more welfare.

Okay.

They just believe in a bigger hand to help.

And so when we say this is socialism, they hear that as you're a communist.

And they're like, we're not communists.

Right.

And so

we have put a giant blanket over the entire voting public of Democrats and made them feel like we're calling them communists.

They don't feel like they're communists and they're not communists.

But it is provided, that cover has provided cover, if you will, for the actual Marxist communists

that are trying to say end of capitalism.

When you look at, you know, for the last 25 years, I've been involved in full-time political advocacy, either as a host or an activist, or I've worked on numerous campaigns.

I've run the gamut.

I've done everything in our movement other than run for office, basically, myself.

And

when you look at

the course of our careers, the GOP consultancy industry has designed a strategy to chase a voter that does not exist.

And this is filtered down into the talking points we in conservative media get from these people.

And that is that the average GOP consultant believes America

wants limited government like the Koch brothers and Sodom and Gomorrah at the same time.

It's actually totally in reverse.

The majority of, and you know, it's fascinating is Pew did a huge study on this, breaking it down in the 2016 electorate.

The myth of the libertarian voter, and that's how they define them, that that voter largely does not exist.

It's a unicorn.

Okay.

The reality is, and I've seen this on every GOP campaign and for every candidate from state house to president I've ever worked on.

The amount of pushback we get on our social beliefs compared to you're the party of big business who wants to lay me off and doesn't care about me, guys, it's 10 to 1 at minimum.

It's not even close.

And the reality is, most voters are in favor of bigger government with better moral values.

And this is the secret sauce that Trump tabbed into in the last election.

The irony is the ultimate hedonist absolutely embraces all of these cultural flashpoints.

He didn't say, he didn't give you the token, I'm pro-life.

He stood up in front of 100 million people at the presidential debate and said, I'm going to appoint justices that will overturn Roe.

Okay?

I mean,

he has embraced whether it's the NFL issue, which has kind of become a phony issue now, but all of the cultural flashpoints, you know, I've always believed that Mitt Romney would have just eaten a chicken sandwich about mid-August of 2016 or 2012 when he had Chick-fil-A Day.

He'd have been president of the United States, but he wouldn't even eat a chicken sandwich.

Every moment Mitt Romney had a chance in that campaign to punt on a cultural flashpoint, he did.

Every moment John McCain had to punt on a cultural flashpoint, even lecturing guys like you about not using Barack Obama's real middle name, remember those days?

He punted on every one of those.

Trump said cultural flashpoints, I'm aware.

I'm going to put it on my face.

I'm going to marinate in it.

I'm going to bathe in it.

Whether I believe any of this stuff or not, I'm a businessman and I know when a market wants a product and I'm going to give it to them.

And you see the way that our base responded to that.

Okay, so let's talk about

the result of that, the good things and the bad things, and what the Democrats are now saying and go back to the violence that I told you at the beginning of the half hour.

When we come back, again, Steve Dace begins on the Blaze Radio Network, and also he remains on CR-TV, and we are grateful for their,

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But Steve starts on Monday, right after this program, and Pat begins the morning blaze.

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