'Socialism Is Sweeping the Nation' - 10/10/18

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Glenn, back.

Well, good news.

Hillary Clinton is back again.

Kind of like Herpes.

You just can't, no matter what you take, you just can't shake it.

Now,

was that unkind?

Oh,

this is an interesting comparison.

Well, it just won't ever seem to go away, will it?

She's there to remind us that she is relevant and her husband, a Democrat, is not a rapist.

Definitely not a rapist.

So we shouldn't listen to the dozen or so women who have accused him of sexual assault over the past few decades.

Instead, we should focus on the evil Republicans and their plot to fill the Supreme Court with sexual predators.

Also, she's going on tour and wants everybody to know that $700 a ticket, totally worth it.

Here she is talking about her tour in an interview with the very fair and balanced Christiane Annampour.

You say that you're going to talk about the difficulties that your husband went through, that you went through.

Obviously, you're going to be prepared to have questions about that moment in 1998, the impeachment,

the allegations of sexual harassment against your own husband.

Are you prepared to answer those questions?

Is he prepared to answer them?

And how do you see that?

similar or different from what President Trump is being accused of and Kavanaugh and others today.

Well, there's a very significant difference, and that is the intense, long-lasting, partisan investigation that was conducted in the 90s.

If

the Republicans, starting with President Trump on down,

want

a comparison, they should welcome such an investigation.

I do.

I welcome the comparison.

The investigation, I don't need to welcome it.

It's already happening.

There's been a partisan investigation on Donald Trump since before he was elected.

Now, one woman who hasn't remained quiet about Bill Clinton's bad behavior and the hypocrisy of the left is Juanita Broderick.

You know, the woman who said, Bill Clinton raped me.

She says, I have 20 times more evidence for my rape by Bill Clinton than Dr.

Ford has against Kavanaugh.

Democrats all turn their backs on me.

All women are believed as long as they're not conservative, as long as the assault was not done by Democrats.

End quote.

Here she is in a recent interview with Laura Ingram when asked what she thought about the Democrats' circus-like handling of Kavanaugh's confirmation.

It makes me go back to 1999 when

Diane Feinstein, along with every other Democrat, refused to read my deposition to the independent counsel.

They wouldn't have nothing to do with it.

That just shows you the difference in the double standard that existed back then and still does today.

I think this is astonishing that they can do this to Mr.

Kavanaugh.

Astonishing certainly is the word.

It's astonishing that someone could survive with such cognitive dissidence, isn't it?

She complains Democrats should be tougher and fight harder, but she clams up and starts speaking full-blown legalese when someone asks, How can you go on huge rants about sexual predators when your husband is widely considered to be a sexual predator and has a very credible charge of rape?

Of course, she responds by hardening her face into that stony grin.

Hillary Clinton, certainly astonishing.

It's Wednesday, October 10th.

You're listening to the Glenbeck program.

You know the nice thing, though, about Hillary Clinton?

Everybody knows she's lying.

You know what I mean?

Nobody buys her act anymore.

No.

Which is really nice.

It's really, well, CNN, Christiana Anampur, she still buys into it.

Yeah, I don't know that I would really make that distinction.

I mean, who cares what she thinks?

Really, either of them.

I mean, I was like, I mean, it's two voices that I almost can't hear.

I care so little about what it is.

It's almost like they're cutting woods in a forest.

Yeah.

Trees are falling and nobody's hearing it.

And I'm in the middle of a city,

many, many hundreds of miles away.

I cannot hear the trees fall.

Yeah.

I'm trying to remember.

I watched something that was so outrageous last night.

What was it?

And I thought to myself, wow,

I'm really not outraged.

I don't care.

It's hard.

I just don't care.

It's hard.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff today.

I mean,

the things that the people that are trying to cover this election and the Kavanaugh thing are actually saying, I mean, they're incredible.

It's as if they don't care what the words they're saying mean.

No.

Well, for instance, let's use this because we're changing definitions of words.

Here is

Brooke Baldwin on CNN.

They're talking about how

we've got to be careful because people are going to be hurt because

we're seeing mobs start to form.

Here it is.

I believe it's the overreaction of the left.

When you see people like Ted Cruz getting chased out of restaurants by a mob,

you're not going to use the mobile phone.

Oh, it's totally a mob.

It is, without a doubt.

There's no other word for it.

It's a go on.

Put up a mob.

Stop.

Stop.

A mob is what we saw in Charlottesville, Virginia, two Augusts ago.

No.

A mob.

It's not what we saw chasing.

I'm not saying what they did was right.

What about the people who were at the Supreme Court banging on the walls?

What do you call that?

Civil protest?

Or is that a mob?

I think it's easily a mob.

Yeah, and if it were tea partiers, we'd call it a mob for sure.

Come on, let's speak.

Because I saw lots of tea partiers going to the Supreme Court and banging on the walls.

And by the way, I have plenty of Supreme Court decisions that make me want to bang on the walls of the Supreme Court.

Right.

But we don't do those things because we're supposed to be in a civil society.

Right.

I'm trying to remember all of the people the tea partiers chased down with their children, you know, and the homemade signs.

How many people they chased down in restaurants and surrounded.

I cannot think of one example.

In fact, if you want an example of this, what did Nancy Pelosi do during the healthcare bill?

She and

was it John Lewis marched out into the crowd,

into the crowd, trying to get them to do that, and they wouldn't.

Do you remember?

Yeah.

They tried to get them to be violent.

They said all kinds of crazy things, throw gasoline all over them, and then they linked arms and marched bravely through that crowd when they didn't have to.

They were trying

to get the Tea Party to become a violent mob.

They didn't.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh would have linked arms and tried to walk through the crowd?

In Washington, D.C.

It would not have been pretty.

It would not have been pretty.

And by the way, I mean, you know, you can talk about some of these things.

I mean, Antifa, that's not a mob.

They're like torching cities and they're taking over FBI institutions.

That's a riot.

That is a riot by a mob.

Could you define mob, please?

Look it up in the dictionary.

Find out.

Let's make sure we know what we're talking about.

Mob.

Mob.

A large crowd of people.

especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence.

Okay.

And the quote is, a mob of protesters.

That's their usage.

So is this not a disorderly crowd of people

that are trying to

say

intent on causing trouble?

Intent on causing trouble.

Yeah, I mean, I guess if you think, well, Brett Kavanaugh is a terrible person and stopping him is good, so that's not causing trouble.

I mean, if you're going to go down that road, I guess you can

do that.

That doesn't, does it say there, unless you're right?

It just says intent on causing trouble or

it doesn't say, you know,

with an exception of those who are absolutely right.

What I'm saying, though, is that the media does not see harassing conservatives as causing trouble.

Correct.

That is the issue.

Correct.

They see this as a correct.

They see this as like that, you know, they're, it's basically, you know, charity work.

Correct, right?

I mean, they're doing good for the people.

You're stopping these evil, old white people who have names like Cruz.

Thanks.

Thanks, Betto.

Yeah, I know.

The Irish guy.

The Irish guy.

Robert Francis O'Rourke.

Let me tell you, these white people, these old white people will do you.

Really, Betto?

Really?

Okay, so let's listen to a couple of things.

First, we have CNN we just played.

Oh, you're not going to call it a mob.

Yes, I'm going going to call it a mob.

Now here's Maxine Waters trying to say, we're trying to redefine protest as mob rule.

Here it is.

Protest is guaranteed to a democratic society.

We know that this is guaranteed to us by the Constitution.

They're trying

to change the description of protest and call it a mob.

Well,

this president is the poster boy for what a mob protester looks like.

He is a matter of fact, he's the one who has been violent in his speech.

He's the one in his rallies that said things like this.

I'd like to punch him in the face.

Trump said that at one of his rallies.

He said, knock the crap out of them, would you?

And seriously, okay, just knock the hell.

I mean, okay, all right, okay, we got it.

Now, that's what she's saying.

She's saying that Donald Trump is the one who's violent in their speech.

Let's go to Jennifer Epps

Addison.

She's the network president and co-executive director at the Center for Popular Democracy.

Here's what she's saying to the crowds:

Lawmakers and leftists continue to push.

Protest is guaranteed to

women in the airport.

We're getting up in their face, and they thought that us calmly saying listen to survivors was enough to shake and intimidate them.

But wait till they go home, wait till they go to the state fair, wait till they go to the coffee shop, wait till they go to the movies, wait till they go anywhere we see them.

Wait till they go anywhere we see them.

Now,

here's the problem.

Let's ratchet things down just a bit and listen to somebody who says,

I think there's real trouble on the way and has reason to say that.

Here's Rand Paul.

When people like Corey Booker say, get up in their face,

he may think that that's okay, but what he doesn't realize is that for about every thousand person that might want to get up in your face, one of them is going to be unstable enough to commit violence.

When I was at the ball field and Steve Scalise was nearly killed, the guy shooting up the ball field and shooting, I think five or six people were shocked.

Steve Scalise was almost killed.

He was yelling, this is for health care.

He had a list in his pocket of conservative Republicans that he wanted to kill.

You know, when I was attacked in my yard and had six of my ribs broken, pneumonia, lung contusion, all of that.

These are people that are unstable.

We don't want to encourage them.

We have to somehow ratchet it down and say, we're not encouraging that violence is ever okay,

ever a reason for or a means for trying to resolve things.

I feel that there's going to be an assassination.

I really worry that someone is going to be killed and that those who are ratcheting up

the conversation, those who are ratcheting up saying get in their face, they have to realize that they bear some responsibility if this elevates to violence.

So, do you remember the time when people like Brooke Baldwin and CNN were lecturing us that you couldn't say

you're going to target a district

because that, of course, led to violence.

Couldn't target a district.

Remember the lectures of your words have power because you don't know who's listening to them.

And we said,

unless you're endorsing this, we are calling for peaceful rallies.

And they were.

And they were.

These are not peaceful.

How many people were arrested from the Tea Party?

Riots.

Mobs.

How many?

I don't remember any.

There's 400 just last weekend on the left.

400.

That's disorderly.

That's not a peaceful protest.

Your words do have power because you do mean violence.

Now, how can Glenn Beck even say that?

Well, I'll back it up when we come back.

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So

I read a story from

the Fort Worth Star Telegram.

Yeah.

Why calls for unity in American politics are just not enough?

Something wrong with the rest of the internet?

I don't understand how this occurred.

The story says, look at the 1930s and 40s.

The U.S.

is in the midst of a tepid economic recovery following a catastrophic downturn, but millions of Americans continue to feel left behind.

Some turn their anger on corporations and Wall Street.

Others target non-white immigrant workers.

A charismatic media personality with a populist message attacks religious minorities.

Conservatives denounce the president and his allies for flouting the Constitution and steering the United States towards socialism.

Meanwhile, many on the left warn that fascism is taking root in America.

Okay, let's just go through.

Let's just go through this because they say,

this isn't our time.

This is the 1930s and 40s.

Okay.

The U.S.

is in the midst of

tepid economic recovery following a catastrophic downturn.

Millions of Americans continue to feel left behind.

Yep, that's been true.

Now we're not in a tepid recovery, are we?

Some turn their anger on corporations in Wall Street.

Yes, that would be the left.

That would be the left.

Others target non-white immigrant workers.

Who's doing that?

I mean, I guess they would claim that's like border enforcement, right?

Yeah, that's border enforcement.

That's different than

the law.

That's claiming we do not know who's in our country, and we're also worried about terrorism.

A charismatic media personality with a populist message attacks religious minorities.

Well, who could that be?

Because

I know I went to stand with Israel.

If anybody's attacking religious minorities, hell with that.

Religious majorities.

It's the left.

Conservatives denounce the president and his allies for flouting the Constitution and steering the United States towards socialism.

Yep, did that one.

Because that's what's happening.

That's what did happen.

Ask Alexandria Casio-Cortez.

Yeah.

It's crazy accusation at this point.

Many on the left warn that fascism is taking root in America.

No, socialism is taking root in America.

Socialism.

Yeah, I mean, people on the left say fascists every time someone does something they don't like.

Right.

It's just

applied to every situation.

It's fascism.

That is, it's socialism that is sweeping the nation.

Remember the headline, we're all socialists now?

That's what's

sweeping the nation.

Parallels between the two eras aren't perfect, but in the late 1930s,

that's an understatement of the year.

Can you say that last one again?

No, the parallels between the two eras aren't perfect.

They're not perfect.

No, they're not perfect.

That is one way to describe what you've just done.

Yeah, about three-quarters of them are completely inaccurate.

But in the

late 1930s, as today, political rancor, social division, and the threat posed by alien ideologies sparked widespread unease.

What is the alien ideology?

Of today?

Yeah, of today or back then.

I mean, the fact that one of the two major parties has embraced democratic socialism is pretty alien to me.

Yes.

The fear back in the 30s was communism.

And the left said, no, it's fascism.

Well, okay.

I guess.

I mean, it was Adolf Hitler and Mussolini that said that the FDR is one of us.

He is a fascist.

So maybe it was that.

But there's more.

Hang on.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

You know, if you look at the

civil unrest in America and you really look at the history,

you will find that it is almost always the left and in particular the communist Marxist left that is behind the civil unrest.

If you look at, you know, here's 1783 to 1799 and, you know, 1829 to 1850, the riots in Stu,

that's, you know, a paragraph each.

But after the Communist Manifesto, well, then you start to get some interesting riots, usually called strikes.

Now, some of these things are legitimate when it comes to race,

but a lot of these come from a progressive in office who is doing something and stirring people up against one another.

For instance, the greatest example is Woodrow Wilson, where he's, you know, he's practically heaping praise on the Klan.

He shows the first movie ever shown in the White House, and it's one glorifying the Klan.

The Klan goes goes through a resurgence.

He was heavily involved in it.

He resegregated.

He heavy to the military.

He did all sorts of things.

So you see this, all of a sudden, you start to see this real uptick of race riots again

in the 1915 onward.

Well, that's because of resegregation and all the things that a progressive planted.

All right.

But let me just go through and see if you can find any patterns here.

The Patterson Silk Strike, the Copper County strike, the Indianapolis streetcar strike,

the Seattle general strike, May Day riots, Red Summer, the Boston police strike, the steel strike.

Any of those seems labor related?

I would say that's labor related, doesn't it?

I'm sorry.

If you look these up, almost every time you will find the international workers of the world.

Who are the international workers of the world?

That is, of course, based in communism.

And Marxism

is the communist arm here in America.

The international workers of the world.

Unite.

Rise up against your oppressors.

You also had, in 1916, the Preparedness Day bombing in San Francisco.

You had a

You had Red Summer, which was about 20 of them.

You had May Day riots.

You had the Centralia massacre.

What's interesting is the Preparedness Day bombing, that was the left and communists saying you can't get involved in the war because it's so unethical and we're going to bomb you until you stop.

It's the best way to say that war is unethical is with a bomb.

Right.

The Centralia massacre, if I'm not mistaken, was again the leftists.

I can't remember which one it was, but it was a communist organization that was against

all of the American legions, and they were coming home.

So

they go and they protest.

I think it was a parade, and they actually end up rioting and killing people.

Okay, good.

Then you look in the 1930s and 40s.

Essentially, it was Industrial Workers of the World as well.

Okay, so thank you.

Okay,

Minneapolis Teamster strike 1934.

The Auto Light strike.

The West Coast Longshore Strike.

Do you even know what that one was?

That happened May 9th through October 12th.

That one shut down San Francisco Bay,

the ports in California, Portland, and Seattle.

And who was behind that one?

Probably some conservative thinking.

Yeah, no.

No.

The textile workers strike, the Flint sit-down strike, the Battle of the Overpass, the Republic Steel Strike, almost all of of these,

and including many of the race riots, have communist and Marxist fingerprints on them.

Well,

it's fundamental to the ideology, right?

Revolution is fundamental to the ideology.

So it's not surprising that this is happening again.

I just, I'm really tired of

hearing,

or I should say it this way.

I'm really tired of the media and their lies and their cover-up for history and truth.

You know, Donald Trump says that you and media are the enemy of the American people.

Well, if you are knowingly lying,

you are.

And I'm sorry, but I'm trying to get my arms around a group of intelligent people that cannot see that what they said about the Tea Party that never happened

is now what they're excusing from the left.

And we already have attempted assassinations.

We have somebody who tried to assassinate Congress, the Republican congressman.

Yeah.

Almost killed one of them as he was pulling the trigger, shooting at all of them.

He was shouting, This is for health care.

And people are like, Do you believe Rand Paul said he thinks there might be an assassination?

I don't know.

He was standing on a freaking baseball field being shot at, and then got attacked in his front yard.

Well, yeah, I can believe he thinks that might happen.

I believe it's almost happened to him a couple times.

I have warned, that is the only thing that hasn't happened.

If you were looking in the 1930s, the teens, the 60s, and now today, the only thing that hasn't happened, that hasn't repeated itself almost exactly

assassinations.

Well,

because the press didn't make a big deal out of it, because

they wanted to bury it because it was a Bernie Sanders volunteer,

people don't realize you had someone try to kill a third of the congressmen.

A third.

Right?

No, I think it was, I want to say it was, because they were,

I think it was like one-tenth of the elected Republicans.

Okay.

So, yeah, but you know,

a tenth of the Republicans.

He tried to kill the mass of Republicans.

It's amazing.

It is incredible.

And by the way, not in 1918.

We don't need to go back for that.

This is just what?

This is 2017.

I mean, this is not a long time ago.

Was it 16 or 17?

It was 17, wasn't it?

It was 17.

Yeah.

It was 17.

I mean, this isn't the fact that we just had the one-year anniversary of the game.

That was just a month or two ago.

You know, it's incredible that that event,

like, how on earth can you be encouraging your crazy side when you're Maxine Waters or you're

someone on the left, encouraging them to go out and get in the face of Republican congressmen when they've already tried this one at the baseball field.

We've seen the results of encouraging people to get in the face of Republican congressmen.

We never said anything like that.

We talked about

ideas.

You talked about gathering, right?

Gathering together.

You saw the actual gatherings we were a part of.

You saw the one in Washington, D.C.

You got 500,000 people.

There's barely a piece of trash left after we walked out out of that place.

Let me go to Dan in Georgia.

Hello, Dan.

You're on the Glenbeck program.

Hey, Glenn, how are you doing this morning?

Hey, Stu.

Hey.

Hey,

I want to ask you a serious question.

All right.

When is it our turn?

When is it our turn for what?

Fight back.

When is it our turn to take back the capital?

In what way?

In what way are you talking about?

You've got to get a few weeks.

You can go vote and get that taken care of.

I intend to vote.

Yeah, so do I.

Since

2009 and 2010, when I told my wife that there will be blood in the streets.

So

what is your question?

Define when is it our turn?

Tell me what you mean by that.

When are we going to be allowed to protect ourselves, protect our representatives, protect our streets, protect our businesses?

protect the innocent.

Okay, well, you are allowed to protect yourself.

If your life is in danger and you are under threat, you do have a right to protect yourself.

Right.

So that's a natural

law.

That's a natural law.

That's a natural right.

You have that.

If you're talking about when are we going to grab guns and go kill people,

you can count me out in that.

Yeah, never o'clock on that one.

You can count me out on that.

Now, if I'm not asking you for guns,

what are you asking for?

No.

What are you asking for?

Well, you keep saying, do not, do not push back.

Do not give up.

No, I do not say.

I do not say that.

I do not say don't you?

No, sir.

No, sir.

Do not keep telling us all the time to not fall for the trick.

Don't let them win.

Don't let them,

you know, that this is what

they win.

Become

them.

Yes.

Don't become what you despise.

Do you want to become that?

You want to become that.

But I want to protect my children i want to protect so do i protect my streets so do i okay so i don't i don't have six million dollars in security guards so how do i do it when do we

what is your tell me sir what your threat level is right now tell me what your threat level is right now

well if i wear a shirt that says stand for the flag and i wear it to kroger And I get dirty looks from two dudes much bigger than that.

Oh my gosh, dirty looks

really high.

Not dirty looks we not dirty

looks

right so you guys make a joke out of it no sir i'm not making a joke of it you are you

no i'm not you are obviously ready to fight right now

i am i feel that it's getting to a point where we have to fight because the way that this is going to fight at which it's ramping up how do you want to fight how do you want to fight i don't know

You do.

You do.

You just won't say it on national radio.

How do you want to fight?

No, I'll say it.

I don't care.

Go ahead and say it.

I'll say it on national YouTube.

I don't care about it.

Go ahead then, say it, man.

Fire with fire.

They're in our face.

We get up and get back in their face.

They threaten us at a dinner table.

We protect our dinner table.

I mean, can we hose them down with Pepper Spray and Mace, or are we going to go to jail and be called certain names?

I mean, at what point are we allowed allowed to defend ourselves?

You are allowed to defend yourself today.

If you are under threat and you feel that your family and you are in an actual unsafe condition, not a college, I feel unsafe, but an actual threat.

Excuse me, sir.

Let me talk.

Stood up.

Let me talk.

If you stood up and took a protester down, would he been allowed to have done that?

I don't mean down like that.

I mean, you know, if he thought,

would he have been in his right to defend his family and his circle from further escalation of violence?

He would have been foolish to do it.

Escalating violence is not a defense against the further escalation of violence.

That's just going to make it worse.

I mean, what Ted Cruz did was win, right?

Did you tell me Ted Cruz lost that?

Did we lose the Kavanaugh thing?

We didn't come out in the streets and scream and beat the crap out of people with Kavanaugh.

Is he in the Supreme Court?

We We would have lost the Kavanaugh case.

Yeah, you would have lost it.

You would have lost.

You certainly would have lost Jeff Flake.

He was dying to vote no, but we didn't give them the opportunity.

You went through and handled the situation right, and now Kavanaugh's on the Supreme Court.

It was handled well.

And what's the next level they're going to go to now?

I don't know.

We'll have to wait and see.

You seem to want to predict it and act on it now.

Yeah, and I'm not with you on that.

Believe me, I will protect my family

without my security guards.

I'm sorry.

My threats are a little bit more than getting dirty looks in the grocery store.

Well, there's two dudes at Kroger, though.

Have you ever had that security?

No, I've never had that.

I've never seen that.

There's two dudes at Kroger.

Look at my shirt.

So I am sorry that you don't have my

security.

I am sorry that my family has to go through the threats.

I just wrote to a friend.

I just wrote to a friend this morning who said, hey, I want to come and stay with you guys or, you know, just hang out with you guys over the weekend, blah, blah, blah.

I said, my wife doesn't do that anymore.

I've been trying to get my life, my wife to

put her guard down.

We don't have people over at our house anymore.

We don't have anyone over at our house anymore.

We don't do things like that because our life has been so unbelievably chaotic.

And yes, a little more than Kroger.

I am not mocking you for what you have to go through.

I would just like to remind you that

Martin Luther King went through a lot more.

Abraham Lincoln went through a lot more.

Abraham Lincoln, if you don't think Abraham Lincoln, as a man wanted to make the South pay,

if you don't think he did, You don't know history.

If you think

that

our greatest founding fathers

said exactly the same thing: we do not want war, we do not want bloodshed, take it, take it, take it, until they couldn't take it anymore.

And they then wrote the Declaration of Independence, which did not lead with why they were so mad.

Instead, they wrote a plea: this is who we are, and we'll stand.

You just seem to want to fight.

I am not with you.

I

look to win.

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If you just joined us,

a little while ago, I had a caller call in, and we were talking about

how

the media

and the left has truly gone insane.

And

they are now excusing the mobs.

They've been excusing Antifa.

They're excusing all tactics.

They're not paying attention to anyone

calling to surround people at dinner, at their home, wherever they are.

This is going to lead to violence.

It is going to lead to violence.

And I went through the history of violence, no matter what the media might try to write today.

The history of violence in the 20th century, civil unrest and violence happened mainly

for two reasons.

The communists and the international workers of the world

ginning up strikes, sometimes justified against the corporations, not saying the corporations were right, but that was not the reason those strikes actually happened.

Those strikes happened because of Marxism and communism, period.

Many times,

the race riots were ginned up exactly the the same way.

That does not mean that in the 30s and 40s, in the 20s, and the teens, that those things were not

legitimate, had legitimate complaints.

They did.

America was an awful place.

If you were black, it was an awful place.

But we have to tell each other the truth.

And we have to study.

And we have to to take these times seriously.

And I'm sorry, but responding on social media is not taking these times seriously.

My full-time job, and I am wildly unqualified to do it.

My full-time job is to try to explain to you what's happening and then give you my opinion

on what we should do.

wildly unqualified

this show went national

I was a joke I was a I was a clown I w

I didn't know anything it started the week of 9-11

I spent that week on my knees saying Lord you've got the wrong guy I don't have anything to say I don't I don't know what to say

I have taken this job seriously

I'll be honest with you.

A few years ago, for multiple reasons,

I just gave up.

I gave up,

but I couldn't leave.

And it had nothing to do with money or anything else.

It was wrong.

I want you to know

I'm just like you.

I'm struggling to figure out what's happening.

Great men

have lived

in this country and have stood up.

I am not a great man.

I am a man that is just trying to hold it together and be better than I was yesterday.

This caller

suggested

to me that it is time for people to rise up and fight back.

And it was clear to me

he wanted to strike out.

When are we going to be able to protect yourself?

Well, if you are in danger, danger, you have that right now.

If you or your family are under threat and feel that your life is at stake, you have that right.

That's not what he was talking about.

I want you to really listen to me carefully.

Please, please, with an open heart, listen to me.

We can disagree,

and we can talk about it,

and I respect you if you disagree.

But please listen to my

reasoning.

I have looked for an answer to this, and I have,

most likely,

I was one of, if not the first person in your life, to tell you this was coming.

I believed that before I started to say it on the air.

And once I felt that way, believe me, it drove me to my knees to try to find an answer.

And nothing seems to work.

And I keep going back and saying, that doesn't work.

And I keep getting the same answer.

And I keep looking at history.

Do not surrender.

Do not sit down.

Do not comply.

We need to go to the polls.

And we need to vote.

Now, I know people in this audience are rolling their eyes.

That doesn't change anything.

It has changed a lot.

Already, it has changed a lot.

If you hadn't gone to the polls,

and frankly, if you would have listened to me, we wouldn't have had the two Supreme Court justices that we do.

You wouldn't have a president who stood up

against the mob.

Now, with that being said, this president also, with his tweets,

has,

you know, throws gasoline on the fire sometimes, and that's not helpful.

But it feels good.

It feels good because people have been kicked to the curb for so long.

I cannot even watch CNN anymore.

I can't, I can't, I can barely watch any news anymore.

We must stand for what our parents taught us was true.

What we learned was true.

And there's a lot of things.

Unfortunately, we have to start at sticks and stones can break my bones.

When I asked the guy, how is your family under attack?

He told me, Well, you don't have to go to a grocery store.

If I wear a flag on my shirt, I get dirty looks.

Dirty looks

this apart.

I need you to hear.

I need you to hear it very clearly.

First, let me ask you this question:

Is America

good?

Do most Americans

believe in

fairness?

Just being fair?

I think you sh I hope you still answer yes, but it seems to be getting smaller.

And I would agree with you on that.

But we have fought fire with fire, and it's not changing any hearts.

In fact, it's doing the opposite, it is changing our heart.

We are not getting stronger in our Judeo-Christian values.

We are getting weaker.

We are getting more angry.

We are moving towards the edge of an abyss that others are wanting us

to walk off.

Listen

to this one explanation, and you will understand why I feel so desperate right now.

Why did Bonhoeffer fail?

If you don't know who Dietrich Bonhoeffer is, you should look him up.

He was a pacifist.

He had a lot in common with Gandhi, except he believed in Jesus, but other than that, I think that's the only real difference.

He was a pacifist.

He was a pastor.

He was in Germany.

He walked the street on Kristallnacht and went into those stores with broken glass and bought things from those stores the very next day.

This guy did not sit down.

He was not quiet.

The day the Führer gave his inaugural address, his broadcast was shut off because while that was happening,

he was giving a speech on radio called the Führer Principle.

He was speaking out to a nationwide audience: this is wrong.

He had influence,

he had power,

he had position, he was in the right place.

Why

was that voice not able

to convince his fellow Germans?

Because they had already gone over the cliff.

Because they had lost, because of World War I in the 1920s, they had lost their Judeo-Christian values.

It was an empty shell.

There was nothing left other than the tradition of going.

Now, I don't believe that that's where we are yet, but we are approaching that.

If we lose our Judeo-Christian heart, our values, our principles, if we lose our archetype as a nation that Jesus is who we should try to be,

we're done.

And not only are we done, we become the darkest nation in the history of all mankind.

You think you're afraid of Google now?

Wait.

You think China is a mess?

Wait.

If we go dark,

we could be responsible for enslaving the entire world.

I've said it for almost a decade and a half.

We will make the Nazis look like rookies.

Please hear me.

What separates us is our Judeo-Christian values.

Those are under attack.

Gandhi won.

Remember, he didn't do a hunger strike against the English.

He did a hunger strike against his own people because they said enough is enough.

Pick up a gun and fight.

His hunger strike was against violence by his own people, a righteous violence.

But the English still had their Judeo-Christian heart.

And when they saw a good man stand up and they saw the response of their own government to a good man, to a good man, they changed sides.

They stood with him.

Why did Martin Luther King win?

Martin Luther King won because he refused.

He had every right to swing back.

It was right and righteous to swing and hit the people who were releasing dogs, who were coming at night.

The man went to the government and asked for a concealed carry permit.

He was denied.

We'll keep you safe, they said.

Why did he win?

Because of our Judeo-Christian values, those who were not angry and involved directly in the fight looked at the two sides and said, I want to be on his side, not their side.

I don't like even the look of them.

I don't like the way they got the dogs barking and the way they're grinning as they're hosing people down.

I don't want anything to do with them.

If Martin Luther King would have followed Malcolm X,

there would have been a race war.

I'm looking for a great man to stand up,

and we need one more than ever.

But I want to show you what a great man looks like.

A great man never wants to go to war.

Warriors know it.

They'll fight when they have to, but they don't itch for it.

George Washington knew the only way to beat England was to be a people of merit, something in the eyes of God, where God would look down and say, Those people are good.

It was April 4th, 1968, and Robert Kennedy

was in Indianapolis, and he had to speak in the ghetto.

ghetto.

Long before social media,

when people were still getting their news from the television news and from newspapers in the morning, he had to go that night and tell those people, Martin Luther King's been killed.

The police, everyone said, don't go.

He gave one of the greatest speeches in the history of America.

In the history of great men.

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So before I play this audio for you, because

I want you to really listen to it.

It's about three minutes, and I want you to really listen to it.

I want you to ask yourself,

do you hear that voice anywhere today?

But before I play this,

I want you to ask yourself

which direction is the country going?

More Christian, more Christ-like, more decency, more helpful,

more understanding, more compassionate, more empathetic?

Or are we headed the other direction?

What are the leading indicators?

What politician is leading us there?

What media source is leading us there?

What educational source is leading us there?

And are our churches, are they getting stronger or weaker?

If we don't keep our hearts soft,

we don't win.

Bonhoeffer was right, but he was speaking to people

that their hearts had already been hardened.

I fear we have a limited time.

We have a window of opportunity, and it has been with us now for a while and it is starting to close.

And that window that is closing is that that window of

Christ as our exemplar.

There, I said it.

of the the traditional view of

how we are to behave how are we how we are to act

there will be a time where fighting is

the only choice but it's not now now is the time to live the Judeo-Christian values that made us America.

I want you to understand that you are on a path to victory right now.

You are on a path to victory.

If you are angry this morning, I understand.

I understand because you're watching television or you're reading things on social media and you're like, I can't believe these people are calling for mobs or riots

and the media is excusing them.

And

is the media winning?

The media is only winning because we're allowing them into our life to win.

They're meaningless.

The media is not winning.

You are.

Think of this.

You got the most unelectable man in American history elected.

You got a guy that everyone said cannot do it.

The ultimate outsider doesn't play politics, doesn't play game, doesn't do anything that anyone would say you should do that.

You got him elected.

Then what did he do?

Started doing the things he said he would do.

What the hell is that?

I've never seen that from a politician.

You're winning.

Do you think the left has become unhinged because

they think you're on the ropes

do you think the left has has

just signed on to democratic socialism

a radical un-American idea

do you think that they're excusing Antifa because they think we're about to win

This is the last gasp in death throes.

Backed into a corner, no place to go.

What do you do?

You just start throwing punches.

You're not in the corner.

They're in the corner.

Why are you acting like you're in the corner?

They are trying to get you to feel like you're in the corner.

You're not.

They're not protesting because...

You're weak.

They're protesting because you're strong.

People who say, I don't want to to talk to the Democrats, you can't talk to the Democrats.

Really?

Really?

I'm not talking about the politicians.

I'm not talking about the crazy antifaw people on the edges.

I'm talking about your neighbor.

Now, a lot of people can't.

I get that.

I can't talk to a lot of people.

I get it.

I do get it.

But let's not forget: 20% of the people who voted for Donald Trump voted for Barack Obama.

Where do they come from?

We don't want to talk to people who voted for Barack Obama, really, because 20%.

Now, you're not hearing that on TV because the Democrats and the media don't want you to know that they're 20% responsible for this monster.

You're winning.

African-American unemployment is the lowest in history.

Our current unemployment rate overall is the lowest since the 1960s.

You're winning.

You have a conservative court.

And if things continue this way, if we go out and vote, guess what?

You might have two other court appointments.

Why do you think they'll be mad about that?

Because you're winning.

Let's remember that and keep that into perspective

when we call for violence.

Now, why?

Why punch down?

We have a bigger vision for America and it's happening.

Why punch down?

It's irrelevant.

It's easy to get mad.

It's easy to get mad, especially in today's world.

It used to be that we had to be mad about something that was real.

Now Americans are just mad because, oh my gosh, did you hear they used the M-word?

I actually had to click on the story because I didn't know what the M-word was.

The headline was,

CNN host goes crazy because guest uses M-word.

What the hell is the M-word?

Mob.

Mob.

Don't use that word now.

Can't call Antifa or what's happening at the steps of the Supreme Court a mob.

No, no, no.

400 arrests.

That's not a mob.

So it's easy to get angry.

But when you are angry, that is when character comes out.

That's when people see who you really are.

And if people are looking for a home because I'm not comfortable with socialism, I'm not comfortable with people who are saying I don't like capitalism.

I'm not comfortable with people who are calling for mobs and calling for riots and surrounding people in restaurants.

I'm not comfortable.

I can't vote for them.

Who do I vote with?

Where do I go?

If the other side is saying, kill them, get them, punch back.

They're not going to go to you either.

April 4th, 1968, on the back of a flatbed pickup truck.

In the heart of the worst part of town, the ghetto in Indianapolis, in front of an almost entirely black crowd, before social media,

Martin Luther King is shot.

RFK is on the way to speak.

Everyone, the sheriff, everyone says, You can't go there.

You're a white man in a black crowd.

They will kill you.

He said, No, they won't.

No handler, no cell phones, no writers, nothing.

He takes a little piece of paper and he jots down a few notes and he gets up to to break the news

to this black crowd that Martin Luther King had just been shot.

I want you to listen to his message because his message is exactly the message that I would love to hear from people today.

Listen.

This is a difficult time for the United States.

It's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are

and what direction we want to move in.

For those of you who are black,

considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people who were responsible,

you can be filled with bitterness

and with hatred

and a desire for revenge.

We can move in that direction as a country

in greater polarization.

Black people amongst blacks, and white amongst whites,

filled with hatred toward one another.

Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did,

to understand

and to comprehend and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that is spread across our land,

with an effort to understand

compassion

and love.

For those of you who are

black

and are tempted to

be filled with hatred and distrust

of the injustice of such an act

against all white people,

I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling.

I had a member of my family killed,

but he was killed by a white man.

But we have to make an effort in the United States.

We have to make an effort to understand,

to get beyond or go beyond these rather difficult times.

A favorite poem,

my favorite poet was Aeschylus.

He once wrote,

Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget

falls drop by drop upon the heart

until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.

What we need in the United States is not division.

What we need in the United States is not hatred.

What we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness.

but is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another.

Feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.

One of the greatest speeches given by any man in the United States, RFK.

Martin Luther King

had won already.

He won.

If a politician would have gotten up on the back of a pickup truck and said what politicians are saying today,

get him.

Martin Luther King's life

would have been wasted

because

nobody would have wanted to be a part of that.

And they would have identified

people would have looked at that and said, Yeah, it's justified, but I don't want to be a part of that.

You're winning.

Stay the course.

Do not play into the game of those who are in their death throes.

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spent the weekend making a volcano.

Pretty impressive, by the way.

Yeah, Tanya yelled at me about it.

She yelled at you about it?

Yeah, well, she didn't yell at me.

She just came over and she said, You realize this is only extra credit.

And I said,

honey,

you're dealing with an alcoholic.

I'm either all in or I'm all out.

You know, we made a paper-mâché volcano, volcano, and it's pretty

elaborate.

But then I have to post that, and I have to post what my sister sent to me last night.

My sister Michelle, who is probably the most talented in the family, she sent me, oh, we're working on our gingerbread house for contest

again this year.

And they always win a ribbon and whatever.

And she's like a massive overachiever.

So she said, this year we're doing a Wizard of Oz theme.

I'm like, oh, oh, okay.

The Wizard of Oz, she just showed me, she just finished The Witch's House.

And she showed me, and see, it goes up here, and she's making a gingerbread tornado.

And the house is sitting in the tornado.

It's crazy.

It is crazy.

I can't even begin to think about what that would look like.

I'll show it to you.

I'll have to post it.

I'll post it next to my volcano, and you tell me which one's sicker.

Okay.

I mean, I admit my family is riddled with illness.

Mental illness can't stop, can't stop.

But I'm healthy compared to her.

Can I ask, this leads me to a bizarre question I can't believe I'm asking on national radio, but is Big Gingerbread making a move here for an additional holiday?

Have you noticed this lately?

I've noticed some Halloween gingerbread houses.

Now, gingerbread houses are a Christmasy thing, right?

Like that you do that at Christmas, maybe Thanksgiving,

I don't know, between, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We have two

Halloween gingerbread houses at our house.

I won't do it.

How did that start?

I won't do it.

What is Bing Gingerbread trying to do?

Yeah.

We're going to have this at like July 4th gingerbread houses, and they're red, white, and blue.

The damn

Russian Austrians or whoever is behind that, you know that's a foreign influence.

It's definitely Russian Austrians because there's so many Russian Austrians.

Gingerbread going on.

That's right.

I'm telling you, that's where it's going.

We know about

big tobacco, big pharma.

Now we've got big tobaccobacks.

I hadn't seen that.

Oh, yeah.

But that is something, that's something I would march in the streets for.

I mean, I'm not.

Or against.

Against.

Well, I'm not exactly against

more houses making.

I don't like the elongation of all these holidays.

We're going to be in one giant Christmas, Ramahana, Kwanzmus kind of holiday year-round if we don't say enough!

Stop it!

Gingerbread is for Christmas, not for Halloween.

Glenn back.

Monday was supposedly the last chance for Asia Beebe.

She's a Christian woman in Pakistan who has been sentenced to death.

Her fate still hangs in the air.

She was sentenced to death by hanging in 2010.

Here's her crime.

It was a hot day.

She was thirsty.

She was overworked.

And she drank from the same water container as some Islamic women that she was working with.

They demanded that she convert to Islam right away.

They then said she insulted Muhammad, the Muslim prophet.

She denies ever having done so.

She just wanted a drink of water, you know, from a water container.

That's it.

But even if she did insult, what insult would be bad enough to warrant death by hanging?

How in 2018, while we are marching for women's rights, is it still okay for a country to have anti-blasphemy laws that carry automatic death sentences?

Women that can't drive.

Women that can't go out of their house.

Why is nobody paying attention to this?

And now laws that are widely backed by millions of people.

This is not a radical idea.

If you won't convert, you die.

Monday was supposed to be the last chance BB had to appeal her death sentence, but it was delayed.

Her lawyer spoke with journalists.

I'm 100% sure she's going to be acquitted.

She has a very good case.

But even if she succeeds, She's going to remain in prison for years.

Her lawyer himself is now in grave danger, simply because he defended her.

He now has to have around-the-clock security at his house.

He said, I've lost my health.

I'm a high-blood pressure patient.

My privacy is totally gone.

You have to be in hiding, but everyone knows who I am.

And they look at this house and they know this is the home of a person who can be killed at any time by a pack of angry mullahs.

He also has watched others who tried to defend BB been murdered.

The intolerance,

the intolerance of Pakistan.

Are we on this road, America?

Where there is doubt, there is freedom.

It's barbaric what is happening all around.

But you're not going to hear this on college campuses.

You won't see it reported on any mainstream network.

You won't read about it in the New York Times because religious liberties do not apply apparently to Christians.

Because a woman is being sentenced to death for being a Christian.

No one pays attention.

And by a government.

By a government.

Not by some radical faction, but by a government.

How long are we going to skirt around these dangerous ideas without calling them out?

No, I'm sorry.

They're not equal.

How long are feminist and social justice justice types going to scream about mansplaining yet remain silent on atrocities like those that are happening throughout the world in the name of a certain religion?

Forgive me,

I'm not sure if I should say it, but it is about Islam.

In many places, the cost of misspeaking is too high.

Currently, today,

it is a high price,

but not the ultimate price yet.

It's Wednesday, October 10th.

You're listening to the Glenbeck program.

I want to thank Ed Stetzer.

He's a guy that we had booked last hour, and I

kind of went in a different direction, but it fits right in to what we have been talking about today.

I had a caller about about an hour and a half ago who said that, you know, when is it time that we're going to fight back?

And we should fight back.

We should fight back at the polls.

We should stand true and steady.

We have to speak truth.

Do not forget the things that we were all taught and we all know are true.

To be civil and kind to one another.

But

we're not at a place where I think you grab a gun.

I won't.

Christians in the Age of Outrage.

How to Bring Our Best When the World is at Its Worst.

Ed Stetzer just wrote that book.

Welcome to the program, Ed.

How are you?

Thank you.

Thanks for having me.

And I think we both wrote books on outrage.

So it's kind of a nice timing to talk about outrage.

We did.

And have you found, Ed, that it's not necessarily an understood topic or a popular topic right now to try to defuse it or explain what it does to us.

You know, it's interesting.

I see the word used more than I've ever seen it before in my lifetime.

And, you know, rage and outrage is in headlines of articles all the time.

But it's when you go a little deeper, and in your case, talking about his relationship to addiction, or in my case, talking about how Christians might engage the age of outrage.

So I don't think, I think there's a lot of references to it, but not a lot of, okay, what do we do?

And I think, you know, Dan from Georgia, who fascinating, fascinating call.

And as you kind of walk through that with him, he's clearly outraged.

His response would be very different than yours.

And I appreciate how you responded.

And mine.

And I think ultimately, part of the challenges is Dan's response is I mean, Dan just said, I'll just say it.

I'll just say it.

You know, Dan's response is the way a lot of people feel right now.

There's a lot of built-up outrage that is and it's you know both on the conservative and the liberal side.

And it's in many ways tearing our country apart.

From my concern as a Christian leader, you know, I'm here at the Billy Graham Center.

My concern is as Christians, how are we going to engage in a world filled with outrage

when sometimes we're the cause of it, sometimes we're the targets of it?

It's a mix.

And I love your comments about religious liberty, too.

I mean,

I'm deeply concerned about religious liberty around the world.

Thankful for you bringing that up, bringing that case up even today.

But again, I see Christians who are outraged about Starbucks cups rather than about persecution around the world.

And I think so we got our own issues to deal with, but also it's the culture as a whole.

So tell me, because, and I don't know if you heard last hour when I was talking about Bonhoeffer, and that we have this closing window.

Bonhoeffer did not succeed in what he tried to do, although he was in the end victorious.

But he didn't change the people because the people had already abandoned their Judeo-Christian values.

They were angry, they were outraged, and

they wanted political solutions, not a spiritual solution.

And

they just went for it.

We have this window on our Judeo-Christian culture and our underpinnings.

They're being lost.

And if we don't get through that window and keep people's hearts open,

we're going to go really awry.

Really awry.

And I think ultimately this is our moment.

And, you know, not every, we don't get to pick the moment we're born or that we live into.

And every generation has faced their challenges, but this is our moment.

And in the book, I sort of go through, I have a chart and some stats, we have some new statistics in each chapter, and I talk about how in many ways that Judeo-Christian consensus has been lost.

And now the views of Christians, different groups maybe that are more on the conservative side are now outside in many ways of the mainstream of society where once they were the mainstream.

And that's kind of led to an accelerated outrage cycle.

It's led to, well, everyone's turning up the volume to 11.

And ultimately, I don't think that's the path.

And I appreciate what you just said earlier when you were talking to Dan, is

we've got to choose a different way.

Now, one of the key things is Christians are consistently choosing a different way.

And, you know, we don't need to be discipled by our cable news network.

We don't need to be shaped spiritually by our social media feed.

I think ultimately we need to be shaped as Christians by who Christ is.

And Jesus was unafraid to stand up.

I mean, he was in the temple and he turned over tables.

But he also showed this remarkable ability that we can model to build bridges with people with whom he shouldn't even be around.

Think of the Samaritan woman at the well.

And I think ultimately we need a better path.

The answer is not to get like the world.

The answer for Christians in this age of outrage is to really follow the way of Jesus into the world.

And I'm not some, you know, well, don't stand up for things.

I mean, even you said, you fight, but you fight, you know, for example, you can't war at a people and reach a people at the same time.

And so it's a question of how you approach that.

And we're just, we're, to use your title, we're addicted to outrage right now.

And I'm trying to say there's a better way for Christians

to rebel, even when they're the targets of the outrage, and certainly to not participate in creating faux and false crises and outrage.

Trevor Burrus: Well, here's what's interesting to me, and I pointed it out last hour.

If you talk politically,

we're winning.

I mean, look at the Supreme Court.

Brett Kavanaugh, Kavanaugh, I don't know of any president that would have stood up for that.

Look what happened with Israel.

In many ways,

you know, we're winning.

They're not forming mobs and going out and, you know, trying to get into people's face and getting them to react in anger because they're winning.

They're doing that because they're desperate.

We're actually making progress.

And somehow or another,

we're just being swept up in their drama.

Well, I think people are, it's kind of weird that appeals to us.

There's a part of us.

And I think that's why, you know, we'll find

some crisis on social media that Christians will be very attracted to.

And then we find out later that wasn't true.

And it kind of spread around.

And I think that's part of the concern.

What is it in us that draws us to outrage rather than to engage?

And I think there's a difference between the two.

And, you know, I'm some, for example, I'm someone who's deeply pro-life.

You know, I spoke at the March for Life here in Chicago not that long ago.

And, you know, you had kind of, you know,

those of us in the March for Life speaking up and standing for life.

And then you had some protester around the side just calling us terrible people.

But then you had some...

some self-identified Christians yelling horrible things at them.

And here's what, I don't want to be, I want to be in the group that's saying, I'm going to stand for life, not yelling horrible things at one another and thinking even the counter-protesters who were kind of part of the March for Life but left and started yelling, that's the problem.

We look too much like them, and I don't think that that's our goal.

If our goal, and we talk about this a lot in Christians in the Age of Outrages, is to hold a biblical worldview, but then to engage the world with a winsome approach.

And Glenn, for what's worth, I mean, I've been fascinated to watch you sort of walk through that journey as well.

And I think it really challenged a lot of people in the way that they would think.

And so kudos to you for even writing on this subject.

I think it matters.

I'd like to talk to you about your solutions.

So let me take a quick break.

The name of the book is Christians in the Age of Outrage.

I think it is really important.

We cannot become that which we despise.

We cannot play the same game.

First of all, just strategically, you lose.

But also, we lose who we are.

When Judeo-Christian values are under attack and our archetype has always been Moses and Jesus,

we take Jesus and Moses out.

Who are we modeling?

Who are we modeling?

Who are we striving to be?

We cannot forget our archetype.

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The name of the book is Christians in the Age of Outrage, and it is very frank.

It talks about what Christians can and

should do and also have not done, and how we're actually hurting ourselves.

You talk about our God really kind of being identity now.

Can you explain that, Ed?

I think ultimately we've kind of, as a nation, moved ourselves into factions.

And what I don't want is Christians to be a faction in a world of factions.

I think that's the part of the problem.

But I think people identify themselves as, you know, I'm this or I'm that.

I've got a social media community.

And then that faction sort of becomes, identity becomes a faction, the faction becomes an echo chamber.

And then ultimately,

the volume just goes up, up, up, up, and up, and the anger just goes up, up, and up, and up.

And we can't survive, I think, as a nation factionalizing at this level.

Eventually, you'll balkanize, to use a term from history, where we'll kind of break apart.

And so I think the ultimate thing is, now

I can't solve all the political things.

You've got a much bigger platform talking about politics than I do.

I'm just trying to help Christians to say, all right, how do we react?

How do we respond?

And the answer is, is not to take our identity from anything other than King Jesus.

And again, I know that's overtly spiritual, but we're talking here in this focus.

I mean, so it's to take our identity from King Jesus.

Jesus is not coming back on Air Force One.

He's not riding a donkey or an elephant when he does.

And to acknowledge that I'm only all in as a Christian in following Christ, and everything else is shaped around that.

My identity is more to Christ and his kingdom.

That's kind of our motto here at Wheaton College.

My identity is more to Christ and his kingdom than to anything else.

So I explained this yesterday that,

you know, the

so-called Christians of the Westboro Baptist Church, you know, they hold up signs, you know, God hates this, God hates that, blah, blah, blah.

They're just despicable.

You don't win by

holding up signs, no, God hates you, and shouting things back.

You win by listening, by understanding, by embracing them as a soul or a brother and sister, not what they're doing, standing up.

People have been changed.

There's one woman in particular that actually left her own family in the Westboro Baptist Church

because somebody spoke to her with

civility and said, Let's just reason here for a minute.

Yeah, and that's so key.

I have on my desk, I actually right have it here in front of me, a name plate because they actually protested at my church.

We went out and served them coffee and donuts, and they called me in the national news.

I can't use one of the words, probably on the radio, but a lying beep false prophet.

And so it's actually, and one of my staff made it into a name plate.

It says lying blank false prophet, Westboro Baptist Church, which, by the way, is neither Baptist, it is neither Baptist nor a church.

But in doing so, I mean the question is how do we respond?

Well somebody reached out.

I actually interviewed one of the members of the family as well at Christianity.

So somebody reached out and I will tell you I think that's what we can do right now with people who deeply disagree with us.

And the book is filled with examples of Christians who actually built relationships with people who radically disagreed.

And in the process, we're able to come to maybe a better understanding.

One of the examples, for example, is the president of Biola University, which is a Christian university in California.

Met with

the leader of the party in the state legislature there in California that was trying to change laws that would make it illegal for Biola to live their Christian beliefs about marriage, sexuality, and more.

Well, they ended up getting to understand each other better.

The bill was ultimately not moved forward, but dropped, and now we're at a very different place.

Now, I'm not saying you can always do that, but I am saying that Christians need to try to do that.

And I do think that in doing so, we'll act a lot more like Jesus.

Or even this, how about a lot more like Christians historically?

Because the moment we're in is not time for us to join in ratcheting up the outrage.

And as you said earlier to your caller, I'm calling people to arms.

Yet that's not.

I mean, Glenn, that's not an uncommon view.

And

some of the worst things I see on social media, I click on a link and I find, go to the bio, and it's the first thing lists on the thing is Christian.

And I'm like, that's not what it's supposed to look like.

And I think that's what we need is a change in a lot of hearts.

I will tell you this.

The ones who can teach us this right now are the victims of ISIS and the ones who were literally chained as slaves.

You know, story after story after story of these Christians who, I mean, I know one family that actually wrote to ISIS after they said, you're all dead.

We're coming Saturday to kill you.

I think it was on Sunday.

We're going to come on Sunday and kill you if you don't don't submit.

And we're going to crucify you.

The family sat down, kids and all, and wrote a letter and said, we understand.

We forgive you for that.

We're not going to leave.

We'll be here.

You can come at 3 o'clock.

We only ask that you do not crucify us.

We're not worthy of that kind of a death.

And they lived because they stood up with peace.

It's unbelievable what's happening.

Well, and we can learn from global Christians or also historically.

There was this emperor, fascinating emperor, called Julian the Apostate.

I write about this in the book.

And he actually, he's called the apostate because, you know, victors write the history, and the Christians eventually became more and more prominent.

And here's what he writes, because he's so angry about trying to hold back the advance of Christians.

He's a pagan.

And he says, This, whilst the pagan priests neglect the poor, the hated Galileans devote themselves to works of charity.

He goes on and says, These impious Galileans, impious Galileans, not only feed their own poor, but ours also welcome them into their agape.

The name of the book is Christians in the Age of Outrage.

Pick it up.

It is well worth the read.

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And Pat, welcome.

Thank you.

Good to be here.

Yeah, it is.

And what is on your mind today, Pat?

Did you ever see the TV show Continuum?

Did you watch that?

Yeah, I loved it.

Yeah, it was a great show.

It was all about corporations running the world in the year 2070 or something.

And you know what?

I thought it was kind of silly at the time.

I have mocked Blade Runner and everything.

Yeah, the corporation.

I know.

Come on.

We're all scared of corporations.

That's the one thing the left had right.

They might.

Yeah.

They might.

They had it right in that right way, right?

I mean,

they were just saying profit motive was bad, right?

Yeah, but they were just bad.

But remember when they put the flag with all the corporate logos on it and everything else, I always thought, oh, please, give it a rest.

But it is, I mean, you could put Amazon, Google, Facebook on the flag, and pretty accurate.

Yeah,

we now have, and those are some that you mentioned, we now have companies that are big enough to really fit that role.

I don't know that they do.

No, not yet.

But

Amazon, in particular, is just getting enormous.

And

in the book, The Four: The Hidden DNA of Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Google,

the author talks about just how massive Amazon is.

For instance, far fewer U.S.

households have a gun than Amazon Prime, 30% to 64%.

Holy cow.

More Americans have Prime than voted in 2016, only 55%.

More Americans have Amazon Prime than go to church.

More have Amazon Prime than

are in a monogamous relationship with a spouse.

Yeah, but couldn't you have said that about more Americans had NBC and CBS and ABC?

I mean, maybe, but they're into so many other things too, which, you know, you got to consider that

they're into everything else.

Like, I think it's 55% of households now, or 65% of households have

Alexa.

Oh, that's terrifying.

And that's terrifying.

We invited that surveillance into our home if they want to use it that way.

And I don't know that they are, but they

are recording.

They are recording.

They do.

Yes.

Yeah.

They record continually.

Yeah, because they, they, it needs to A, listen, but it's also learning.

It's trying to learn how to communicate.

Yes, and they're reporting on our moods, our tastes, all the things we like, all the things we want, the things we need, and our fears.

And they just report all of that back to Amazon headquarters.

They just gobbled up Whole Foods right now.

And when they did, Kroger's stock went from $31 a share to $22.

That's how big this company is.

Wow.

They're going to be the largest clothing retailer by 2020.

They already sell more books than anybody on earth.

They've They've driven how many book retailers out of business.

They're about to spend more on original programming than even Netflix.

They're going to be the biggest Hollywood producer.

They're into so many things.

Is it time to...

I mean, I don't know what you do about it.

Do you favor, as a capitalist, breaking up a company?

That's what they did to Microsoft.

That's what they did to, or they tried to to Microsoft.

That's what they did with Mountain Bell.

Yeah, but Mountain Bell was in with the government.

I mean, that was protected by the government and part of a, you know,

that was a protected property.

You couldn't, you couldn't start anything against them.

Right.

That's why.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, you could start on your own Amazon.

You're not going to be able to compete, I don't think.

But there are other options.

But there are other options.

The problem is Amazon does everything better than everybody else.

Yeah, this is the real problem.

We've been talking about this all week:

I don't want you to change Amazon.

I like Amazon.

I like Amazon Prime.

I like the fact yesterday we were trying to build a stupid volcano for my daughter, and Tanya went and got 3% hydrogen peroxide.

And we're reading it, and I'm like, I think 35%

is a different kind of peroxide.

And it is.

I mean, it's a dangerous kind of peroxide.

And we didn't have it.

So I go online.

I'm like, where can you get it?

Amazon.

I mean, you'll have it tomorrow.

You had Amazon.

I mean, it's, I don't want them to change some of these things.

Yeah.

And we're the same way with Google.

And Google's getting pretty intrusive into things, right?

But we like their search engine.

Yeah.

We like their browser.

Their mail is great.

Their mail is great.

I mean, it's free.

And so we just

given it all up.

I mean, but I mean, Amazon, you'd make the same argument.

Amazon controls, I mean, people are like, oh, well, I buy a lot of things from Amazon.

And that's obviously a big part of their business.

But their cloud computing is really the main thing driving all of their profits.

Oh, I know.

You know, and it's, and so many places use it.

Every place you go on the web based on it is using Amazon.

Yeah.

I mean, and it's like, you know, Alexa at this point is a

luxury

product of moderate

utility.

Right.

Like, I mean, like, it's fun to play with.

Like, we use it as a speaker.

You can ask it the weather every once in a while.

I mean, there's a couple of things you can do with it.

But I mean, like, I don't know.

Has Alexa changing my life?

No.

At this point, no.

Prime

absolutely has changed my life.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, it's changed.

I cut

your shop from it.

Yeah.

Prime now will deliver to your door within an hour.

Yeah.

I think you could safely say Amazon has almost killed them all.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, most of them.

Right.

I mean, you know,

between Amazon and Google, they have totally changed the world.

Well, yeah, like there's a there's a big mall near where we're doing the show in Texas, and you know, it's, it still has tons and tons of stores in it, but you start to notice the way it changes.

It's changing from a place to shop into a place for experiences.

There are lots of things for kids and Lego stores and aquariums.

They took one of the big box stores and they made it into a giant,

I think it's called the Field House.

It's a giant gym with like 25 basketball courts and all leagues going on.

It's more of an entertainment complex.

Yeah, it's more of an entertainment complex.

It's a place to go.

Yeah.

Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

I mean, I think it's cool that you go somewhere and have an experience with other people and then people bring things to your door.

It's fantastic.

So

can I tell you about an experience I had last week?

And I have to tell you, it is.

Okay.

The only thing

you get to be rich.

It's the same problems, just bigger.

Okay.

There is one game changer, and that is private air travel.

That changes your life entirely.

Okay.

On that, all the same.

Media.

I've seen some things that are game-changing in certain ways.

You know, being able to do it online instead of a TV, and it's pretty big.

No, no, no.

I went to something called The Void.

Have you heard about this yet?

No.

There's only one in Texas.

It's Lucas.

It's George Lucas that has done it.

And the one in Texas is at the Cinemark in West Plano.

I think it's $30 for 15 minutes.

Whoa.

I'd pay $60.

What?

A week?

What is it?

Okay.

It is

virtual reality.

And

you go in, you put on this virtual reality suit, you put on the goggles, and then you go into this room that's just like it looks like a cubicle.

When your goggles are up, it looks like a cubicle.

It's just, it's all it is.

You put the goggles down, and they start, and you are now in Star Wars.

What?

Yeah.

It's unbelievable.

You only go with four people, maximum four.

And so you're going in and like, you know, my kids, we were all stormtroopers.

And I could tell who was who because we all are linked by comms and the sizes are there.

But you put the goggles down.

They're in suits.

You are in a suit.

You look down at yourself and you're in a suit.

You put your hands out and you're in a suit.

And

you go and you reach for things and it happens.

At one point,

the Empire is pulling you over.

You're on this mission.

It pulls you over.

And you're on, you remember that,

probably nobody remembers this, but

whatever that planet was, it was all lava, that, you know, episode three.

Okay, you're pulled over on that planet.

And the doors open up, and

you have to

get off of your ship and get into theirs.

The doors open up.

You feel the heat of the lava.

And wherever you look, you're on the planet.

It's unbelievable.

How is it?

I've not heard of this place.

It's brand new.

Just open the lesson.

The void.

And it's in Plano?

It's in West Plano, the only one in Texas.

It is game-changing.

Wow.

I said to Rafe, because I don't play games, all that stuff.

On like,

I don't know how you're going to leave virtual reality.

It was the coolest experience I've ever had.

You were there.

I fought Darth Vader.

It was unbelievable.

You really feel when you're walking out on the ship, you're walking out and it looks, when you look down, it looks like you're on a grate.

So you're seeing the lava beneath you.

It actually gives you that spooky feeling of like, I'm going to fall.

Really?

Yeah.

It is unbelievable.

I have to do it.

Unbelievable.

This month is.

How many days do you have nationwide, dudo?

Don't know.

This month it is Star Wars.

Next month is Ghostbusters.

And you're going in and you have the power pack.

It's crazy.

Oh, my God.

I got to try.

I mean, because, you know, obviously the virtual reality thing

is not done to this level normally.

Like, they have some stuff, and I don't think it's

serious.

No, this is well done.

My sons have a little mobile unit, and it's like, okay, it's kind of like

you're fighting.

When you're fighting,

you've got a blaster, and you're fighting, and when you're shot, you feel it.

You get a tingle in your chest, or wherever it is, they shoot you.

Wow.

It's amazing.

It is the closest thing to

Ready Player One.

I didn't know that was available now.

You know, they talk about that being

something that's going to happen in the future, but to have it here, that's amazing.

And tickets, it's sold out all the time.

Really?

All the time it's sold out.

And it is fan.

So asking.

How far in advance do you have to?

I don't know.

You just have to call and just see.

Wow.

But get your ticket.

You will love it.

And find it if it's in your state state or in your area.

Again, only one in Texas so far.

It's at the Cinemark in West Plano, and it's called The Void.

And it's Lucasfilm.

Really cool.

Really good.

That's valuable information.

You're valuable information.

We've got about taxes all day.

Now I want to go do it.

But now you've given us something we can appreciate.

Let's go.

We should all go together.

Oh, I would love that.

It is so cool.

It is so fun.

It gives us a chance to use weapons against Glenn, too.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Sure, we're just imagining what we're doing.

We're supposed to be on the same team.

I'm sure, sure.

All right.

Okay.

All right.

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Stu,

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I mean, a man like your dad used to be.

That he was the guy who changed the filter and does all that stuff.

We hired them to come over and do support and work at our house.

I don't know if those people exist.

Tim.

Tim, my son-in-law, he's a real man.

He's too well-dressed to be a real man.

No, I think that that makes him a Renaissance man.

That's what you would say.

Something goes wrong in the house.

Tanya will say, well, can you fix that?

And I'm like, of course I can.

Where's your phone?

Let me call Tim.

Changing the filter, all of that stuff.

I forget.

I just, I mean, I forget.

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Now that I've brought up the void, now that's all Stu is going to be talking about

all day.

I'm not listening to any of your points.

By the way, the News and Why It Matters, my top story, is going to be the void.

If you can just mark that down, down,

how much time do I have here, Sarah?

Let me take Isaac in Texas.

Hello, Isaac.

You're on the Glenbeck program.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Honor to speak to you, sir.

Thank you.

I am a millennial.

I have two quick things to thank you for.

First is for helping me realize,

not turn me into a conservative, but helping me realize that I already was a conservative.

Oh, wow.

And along those lines, I was listening to hour three of yesterday's program with Riaz Patel.

And I just want to say thank you.

And that I think,

you know, you always say that if we're to save the nation, that it'll be your audience that plays a huge role in it.

And I think that's true because I think when history looks back, if we do save ourselves from this, that you are going to be a huge part.

of that.

And I really appreciate your approach and what you're doing.

And I just wanted to thank you for that.

That is

amazing.

Thank you so much.

How old are you, Isaac?

26.

26.

And what are you doing with your life?

I own a tree service in Waco.

Good for you, man.

Entrepreneur at 26.

Good for you.

How's business?

Give yourself a plug.

Yeah, it's good.

Isaac and Powell's tree service.

Business has been great.

I'd be remiss if I didn't ask for, I haven't read it yet, but a copy of

Outrage.

I've already, I just made it out to you, so it's going to be on the way.

So I'm going to put you on hold.

We'll get your address on where to send it, and we will send it out to you.

Do you ever do tree service up in the Dallas area?

Could I convince you to do that?

Yeah, occasionally I go that far north.

Okay.

Well, I may reach out to you because I've got a lot of trees that need to be cut down.

And we all

hate the earth, yeah.

So we just want to cut them all down.

Yeah.

They're healthy.

They're beautiful.

I just want to cut them all down.

Thanks, Isaac.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.