'Evils of Social Justice'? - 10/1/18

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Hey, some good news, California.

Things in your state are going to get even better.

You now have to have women on the board of directors for

your company.

If you've got all men out of luck, government's going to tell you that's not enough now in California.

Yes.

Yes.

They're just helping you.

And net neutrality has returned to California.

Governor Jerry Brown just signed into law, more or less, the same Obama-era law that regulated the internet on a federal level.

So now,

by the way, California, do you know why it costs you so much money to pump gas into your car?

In California, you can go right across state lines.

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Have you ever noticed that?

Yeah, when you travel elsewhere, it's not because we have gas ferries.

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That's why you pay so much.

But don't worry about it.

I'm sure this will be completely different when you just regulate the internet differently.

Before we get into the dumpster fire that is this, let's take a look at the state of California.

The People's Republic of California Stan,

I'm just saying, I think they hate having business done within their borders.

Is there any other way to look at this?

I just despise business.

It is literally you against the state and you, the American business owner, caught behind the iron curtain of California.

They have...

They have now responded with unprecedented rulings.

Companies are high tailing it out of California like never before.

They've just passed Proposition 30 in 2012.

That was the last straw, I think, for many businesses.

And can I tell you something?

Californians, you're thinking about moving.

You can't believe how crowded and the traffic here is even worse than California.

Don't come to Texas.

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Here's an idea.

Fix your own state.

You were just hit with $6 billion in new taxes.

That kicked off the mass corporate exos out of the Sunshine State and here to Texas.

The companies included Carls Jr., Toyota, Jacobs Engineering, Occidental Petroleum,

Chevron, Kubota Tractors, Nestle.

Any more you can think of?

Because they're coming in by the day here.

Since 2008, some analysts have calculated that up to 10,000 companies have left California.

I always wanted to grow up in California.

I mean, when I was growing up, I always wanted to live in California.

Just wanted to live in San Diego.

My whole life, working, KFMB, San Diego.

16 years old, that's all I wanted.

You couldn't get me to California.

California?

Really?

It's no longer what the West used to be.

California was the place that people went for opportunity.

People would pack up their entire family and

they would brave the hostile Indian country to reach California in search of prosperity.

Now it's just the opposite.

People are packing their bags and heading to the center of the country.

Again, don't move to Texas or Utah.

You're wrecking both of them.

And now net neutrality.

It threatens California's biggest asset, Silicon Valley.

What are you going to do, California, when big tech and internet companies surrounding the Bay Area pack their bags?

They've already spent the past year lobbying heavily against this new state net neutrality law because no matter how hard the left tries to sell net neutrality as a law that protects consumers, what it really does is open the gateway to full government regulation of the internet.

Are you a dreamer creating a new Google or Apple inside your garage?

Well, in California, you're not going to have that opportunity.

In fact, you already don't.

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Now with the laws that are on the books?

You will never have the freedom that

Larry Page or Sergey Brin enjoyed.

The mighty state of California will put its boot on your throat and choke the innovation right out of you.

But don't worry.

As they have their boot on your throat,

they'll talk to you about how fair it is.

The call for freedom and prosperity is no longer go west, young man.

You can't certainly say go east, because if you go too far, you run into the same damn craziness.

It's just on on another coast with a bunch of snow.

There's just a few bastions of freedom left in the country.

We're all huddled and squeezed directly in the middle.

Google, Facebook, Amazon, Flyover Nation.

Well, I would like to say they're waiting for you, but I don't know if they are really waiting for you.

I don't know if you'll be welcome in those communities

either.

Of course, you'll just move all of your people into the center of the country, and then you'll destroy the center of the country like you have the coasts.

Congratulations, California.

You just took one more step at turning the once great state of California into the formerly great city of Detroit.

It's Monday, October 1st.

You're listening to the Glenbeck program.

I got something last night.

Have you seen the copy?

By the way, hello, Stu.

Have you seen the copy of

Rachel Mitchell's memo?

Yeah, I'm reading a little bit about it.

Okay.

Pretty amazing.

This is really amazing.

Now, she, remember, Rachel Mitchell is the Maricopa County Sex Crimes Prosecutor.

She is the one who interviewed Kavanaugh's accuser, Christina Ford.

She was the woman that was made fun of on Saturday Night Live this weekend.

She, well, she was a highly respected advocate for sexual abuse victims.

She has 25 years experience.

She's not political at all.

In fact, she was recognized by Barack Obama's head of homeland security as the sexual assault prosecutor of the year.

Let me say that again.

The woman that the Republicans selected

to dig in and find out whether or not Dr.

Ford's claims were legitimate or not was Barack Obama's head of Homeland Security Sexual Assault Prosecutor of the Year.

So she's not a Democratic hack.

And also not a defense attorney, right?

She's a prosecutor.

Yes.

She tries to prove these things true.

She goes in, her expertise is on old crimes to be able to go in and say, all right, how did this happen?

And be able to put it together to make sure that the prosecution can win.

All right.

Before I continue and tell you what's in her memo, let me just preface it with this.

You're not going to see any CNN is not going to be leading with this.

New York Times is not going to have this on the front page, but it should.

The reason why they won't is because it is devastating for Senate Democrats.

Left-wing activists, the media, this is absolutely devastating to you.

I want you to know: if you're easily triggered, you might want to turn off the radio for just a minute.

Here's what she wrote: quote:

Here's my bottom line:

a he said, she said case is incredibly difficult to prove,

but this case is even weaker than that.

⁇

So I've been saying he said, she said, that's pretty difficult.

She said the same thing.

That's not what she's saying.

This isn't even a he said, she said case.

It's weaker than that.

Dr.

Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses, I'm still quoting, have either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them.

She then adds, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the committee.

I don't think a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case not to the court,

not for prosecution, but before the committee.

Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance of evidence standard.

End quote.

It's pretty significant, don't you think?

Yes.

Again, like, she's being portrayed as this Republican hack to go after this

poor woman because she was a girl.

You mean Barack Obama's

Barack Obama's

Homeland Security prosecutor, Sex Crimes of the Year?

They picked someone who should have incredible amounts of credibility, even with the left.

Yes.

So she's saying that

it won't stand up in court, wouldn't no prosecutor would even bring it, and no prosecutor should even bring this to the committee.

This explains, in my opinion, why

it was leaked in the final hour.

Because everyone who saw this knew exactly what it was.

Now,

she explains why.

She says, Ford has significantly changed her story several times in recent months in ways that are shady, have not been explained, and defy common sense.

Okay, wait a minute.

It may look like she's credible,

but based on what she said, not how she looked,

if you're looking at what she said, her story falls apart.

The most glaring issue with Dr.

Ford's story is that she is given four different dates for when the attack occurred.

And we're not talking about the difference of a few days.

according this is this is from her memo according to the Washington Post the 2013 notes from her therapy session lists the attacks of having occurred when she was in her late teens

fast forward five years July 6th of this year in a text message to the Washington Post reporter Ford said the attack happened in the mid-1980s This would be consistent with her therapist notes since Ford was born in late November 66 and would have been in her late teens from 1984 through 1986.

But then something changed.

Three weeks later, in a July 30th letter to Senator Dianne Feinstein's office, the date of attack changed to the early 80s.

Now you might say, what difference does it make?

Well, if you say you're in your late teens, 16, 17, 18, 19,

you're in high school, so you're 17 or 18, late teens.

You've been saying mid-80s.

Anytime you've ever talked about this before it became political, mid-80s, late teens.

Why did it change?

And how did it change within a span of three weeks?

She changes the date by a couple of years?

It gets better.

This is, again,

I'm quoting the

report.

It gets better.

One week later, when she goes to take a polygraph test with her lawyers, she was asked to write down a statement describing the events.

In that statement, Ford wrote, The alleged TAC attack happened in the early 1980s.

But then something strange happens.

If you look at her written testimony for the lie detector test, she scratches out the early 1980s and leaves it the 1980s.

Perhaps because she knew early 1980s was false

and it was fresh in her mind and might set off the polygraph?

Then finally by mid-September on her first on-the-record interview with the Washington Post, Ford narrowed the date of the attack down to the summer of 1982.

So let me recap.

Dr.

Ford provided four different dates over the span of a couple of weeks for what was supposedly one of the most traumatic and important events of her life.

Why is this significant?

Well, because if the attack happened when she was in her late teens or in the mid-80s, as she first told the Washington Post and her therapist, Brett Kavanaugh would have been 300 miles away at Yale University as a full-time student.

So it couldn't have happened in the mid-1980s or in her late teens.

There's more in the memo, and we'll get to it.

But this is a bombshell that no one will discuss.

It not only discredits Ford's allegation against Brett Kavanaugh, it obliterates it.

It casts serious doubts over her testimony.

Now, maybe the FBI finds some new groundbreaking evidence.

But this allegation should be considered debunked.

The Democrats know this.

The media knows this.

And that's why they are shifting gears.

Have you noticed now they're talking not about Ford.

Now they're talking about

was he lying about teenage fart jokes?

I'm not making that up.

Was he lying about fart jokes and drinking games?

They tried to make him a rapist.

Then they tried to make him a gang rapist.

That argument is losing.

Now they're going going to make him look like a liar.

It's pathetic.

It's dishonorable.

It's un-American.

And none of us should fall for this.

Senate Democrats,

the American people see what this is.

Look at the polling numbers.

This is a sham.

It's an attempted coup.

of the United States and the Supreme Court under the guise of the hashtag Me Too movement.

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We welcome back, Mr.

Stu from the south of France.

Mon jeva, welcome back.

This is amazing to watch, kind of from a different perspective.

Yeah, first of all, people over there don't care, they're just going about their lives, which is kind of how I want to be.

I want my life to become.

But it was interesting watching it in that I've never seen anything like this.

No, this is the people who are speaking with certainty about this.

It's incredible.

She has provided no evidence whatsoever that this event has occurred.

The standard, instead of being innocent until proven guilty, or innocent until the preponderance of evidence shows otherwise,

has become innocent until proven accused.

We now know that she's accused this Kavanaugh, so therefore he's guilty.

That is not a healthy standard for a society.

And how any woman

or leftist who has a son could possibly support this standard.

Because this is not just evil Republican judges that have to deal with this for the rest of their lives.

This is your kid.

Your kid, if they go to a party in college, 30, 40 years later, when they're advancing through their career, can be accused of this with absolutely no evidence.

And society is deciding, yes, we should just believe her.

There's not even, there's not even a 5% chance that she's shown.

We are at the point now where what we're requiring in this FBI investigation, whatever it is, is can he come up with a 5% hint that you think maybe it occurred?

And if so, he should not go, he should not go.

And even one that your parents,

your parents, and your siblings won't stand behind.

Yeah.

Her parents, her mom, her dad, and her siblings will not stand by her statement.

She could have named anyone.

She's named people, and they don't remember the party.

They don't remember being there.

This is beyond a reasonable doubt that this should be.

I've thought about this a lot over the weekend, and I think I know what's happening, and it's dangerous, and I'll explain next.

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All right.

We're talking about the Kavanaugh thing.

And

I want to talk to those people who I think are reasonable,

who can look at Ford and see her testimony and say, okay,

so

why wouldn't we just do the FBI thing?

In a reasonable world,

you're absolutely right.

In a reasonable world, you're right.

But this is not about Ford.

And this is not about making sure that these charges stick.

It's why as soon as this happened,

as soon as Jeff Flake said, no, no, wait a minute, hang on.

We want an FBI investigation.

As soon as that happened, the narrative changed.

Now they're going after and saying saying he lied about drinking beer.

Okay?

He was, for the love of Pete, people.

So this is just a...

And the accusation is that he wasn't blackout drunk.

I know.

How would you confirm he was?

I know.

I know.

It's ridiculous.

I know.

So

we'll get into that later because as an alcoholic, I got a lot to say on that one.

But

they've changed the narrative and they are playing the American people.

And

here's how it's working.

What they've done is they've turned this into something that is more than Kavanaugh.

Look, if Kavanaugh is a guy who did this, I don't want him on the Supreme Court.

None of us do.

Nobody does.

That's a bad thing.

But you can't just smear somebody.

You have to have some evidence.

So because of the lack of evidence, what they've done is they've not made this about Kavanaugh.

They've instead made this about victims.

Evidence,

play the elevator encounter with Jeff Flake.

I told the story of my sexual assault.

I told it because I recognized in Dr.

Ford's story that she's telling the truth.

What you are doing is allowing someone who actually violated a woman to sit in the Supreme Court.

This is not tolerable.

You have children in your house.

Stop.

This woman has obviously a horrible experience in her life.

So when she hears an accuser, she immediately believes the accuser.

Well, that's not reasonable.

She's obviously very, very upset because of what happened to her.

And she wants to send a message that that's not right.

I agree with that.

But that's not the standard of justice or the way we get justice.

Let me take you to a real-life scenario.

I didn't understand America when OJ was let go.

I didn't understand it.

I had no, what is happening?

How can the African American community be cheering this guy?

Well, it's very easy.

Once you're away from it emotionally and you actually look into it, it's easy.

What was happening was African Americans were feeling that there was no justice in America.

It's always the black guy that gets blamed.

And then he goes to court and the white system puts him behind bars.

And so they weren't rooting for him.

They wanted anyone to beat the system.

They wanted anyone to prove that a black guy

could go to court and not be guilty.

That's what they wanted.

They wanted a victory against the system.

Totally understandable.

You ask the African-American community now.

Same people.

Did O.J.

Simpson do it?

Yes.

We're all in agreement now.

Now that the emotions are gone, we're all in agreement that O.J.

Simpson was guilty.

So the question is, was justice done?

The answer is clear.

No.

It's not justice.

That's social justice.

That's I want to feel good.

That's social justice, not real justice.

Social justice is evil.

When it is played the way the postmodernist and the progressives are playing it now,

it does not provide any kind of real justice.

That woman who was in the elevator, her plight, I'm sure, was real.

I know I could tell her feelings were real.

And I feel sorry for her.

And I don't know what happened in her case.

I don't even know if it happened here in America or where it happened.

but I will tell you this.

In the case of Ford,

we cannot help as a society if you don't ask for help.

If you don't ask anyone in your circle of friends for help,

we can't help you later, especially 35 years later.

We can't help you.

Now, I'm shocked that someone could be as traumatized as Dr.

Ford was,

and no one in her circle of friends in high school.

Let's say she was a sophomore in high school.

Well, no, she can't be a sophomore.

Could she?

Could she be a sophomore?

She have to be a freshman or a junior?

I'm trying to figure out when Kavanaugh is at Yale and they're both still in school.

But let's just say it was sophomore year.

This happened to her.

This happens to her.

Are you telling me?

that there is no one in her life, no one, her mother, her sister, her best friend, that wasn't told,

but now when told, doesn't go, oh my gosh, I remember.

Yes, it was that summer and all of a sudden you didn't want to go to any parties anymore.

Would you go to a party if you experienced what she experienced?

Would you want to be by yourself at a party?

Would you change fundamentally at parties enough for your best friend to at least now be able to go, I remember that you were really weird that summer.

That didn't happen?

That didn't happen.

Nobody remembers anything.

She doesn't remember the year that it happened.

And as the investigator has pointed out, she's changed this now four or five times.

We can't help you.

You have to tell someone.

You have to tell the police.

We are not the country of the 1940s.

We.

I want to make sure that nobody goes to jail that is innocent.

But you know what that requires?

Not social justice, not believing the accuser, but looking at the facts.

You say you're for prison reform.

And at the same time, you will not look at facts.

You only want to go with the mob mentality.

You only want to go with what is politically correct and deliver social justice.

You say you're against

putting innocent people behind bars and that our justice system is so corrupt that it has put black men behind bars because of white society.

Look at what you're doing right now.

And if you were honest about the way you actually feel, think of the construct that is built by the left.

All police are really bad people that are going to throw innocent black people in jail.

White people are racist against black people.

How would, let's say, real racist cops and racist women deal with an African American who they say has assaulted them in the past?

Think of the standard you're creating.

Black people have been victims of this in the past where they were unfairly accused of crimes.

I mean, you can go back to Emmett Till, right?

Like you you can go back.

There's a lot of these things that have happened over the years.

You are asking for that standard to return.

How are you going to react when a black man is accused unfairly about some assault they didn't commit?

Are you going to believe the white woman then?

This standard they are creating is insane, and I feel for the woman in the elevator.

You can tell she's very passionate.

I don't know if it's about politics or not.

I don't know her story.

But the one thing I do know about her story is Brett Kavanaugh wasn't responsible for it.

He had no role in what happened to her.

No, no role, no responsibility.

None.

Now, the argument on the other side is we're only asking for five more days.

We're only asking for five more days.

Well, if everyone was quiet for five days,

that would be something.

Okay, we got five days to look at this.

We have a week.

You have until next Friday to look at it.

But that's not what they're doing.

They've now moved the goalposts.

They're using these seven days to come up with something new to move the goalposts.

He lied about, you know, how much he drank.

No, he.

Oh, my gosh.

Right.

And now they're saying, well, yes, you gave us the FBI investigation, but it's not thorough enough.

It's not enough time.

The only thing here is their delay tactics.

And

how you can tell this, and I think we are, and I'll be honest enough to understand this.

If Brett Kavanaugh, let's just say politics fail him and Flake and Collins and Murkowski bail and the vote comes down and he gets voted down, there won't be a soul who gives a crap about this woman's story.

They will all go, they will not even, she will not get a phone call returned because you can still investigate this, by the way.

There is no statute of limitations on felony sexual assault in Maryland.

They could still go after this.

The second Kavanaugh is not in that seat, they will forget about her and she will be a non-story because they don't care about her story.

It has nothing to do with that.

They're just trying to delay this to try to get it past the election.

Now,

here's the

second point I want to make.

Republicans,

if this falls through and the very next day you don't have a qualified candidate that you're going to put through,

you're out of your mind.

May I suggest right now that if Kavanaugh falls through, you don't have the spine, something comes up, whatever, there is one guy that has already gone through all of the confirmation hearings, one guy who has already had every FBI background check, one guy that everybody in the Senate knows, and that's Mike Lee.

If Kavanaugh goes down in flames Monday morning or Saturday, the president should announce his next Supreme Court justice pick of Mike Lee and you should vote on it next week because there's no need to delay.

He's already had all those FBI background checks and each senator knows exactly who he is.

He's qualified, he's clean,

and quick.

You could get that done long before the election.

If I hear the Republicans, if this falls through, oh, we are not prepared, we weren't prepared for the, I'm going to lose my mind.

So that I won't bring up this story about what their plan is after.

Oh, geez, what is their plan after?

They have, quote, no plan.

Oh, geez.

So that should go out.

That is completely unacceptable.

You need to go through that today because you're right.

That's a great plan.

Michael is great.

They know him.

What are they going to say?

They know him.

We have more time to get to.

You know him.

You work with him every single day.

He'd be great.

He'd be great.

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Welcome back to the program.

Stu, we have Larry Sharp on about half hour from now.

Yeah, it should be cool.

Interesting.

He's running for governor in New York.

He's libertarian.

Libertarian.

Anything's got to be better than Cuomo.

I just think we should go through the entire Sex of the Cities cast until we can find a governor.

There's got to be one there.

There's got to be one there.

Kim Cattrall, right?

She was one, wasn't she on that show?

And Sarah Jessica Parker.

I'm happy to say.

I think we just keep running through the entire.

What about the guy?

What about the guy?

Wasn't the guy from Office Space

in that show?

I think we could put him as governor.

It's revealing to me that you know the cast.

I'm just an expert on all things

of pop culture.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If we could just get them.

It's just like, I would like to see somebody with some sense as governor of New York.

Imagine unleashing New York's economy with a libertarian approach.

Imagine what would happen.

I mean, I just can't think of it as even a realistic approach.

This guy's a former Marine Corps vet and

businessman, libertarian.

Imagine going the opposite direction that

California and New York have been going, Illinois.

Imagine getting some libertarians in there that says, okay, you know,

what Detroit was doing about 70 years ago, you know, built them in the greatest city.

We're going to do that.

We're going to stop doing all the things that made Detroit Detroit today.

Imagine doing that with the state of New York.

No, give Cuomo a few more years.

He'll figure it out.

You know, that family.

Just let them rule until the end of time.

That's the better way to go.

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So the FBI and the White House have both said that the FBI investigation into accusations against Brett Kavanaugh will only concern the first two accusers and not the third.

Oh my gosh, not the third.

Yeah, the third one, what's her name?

Julie

Schwetnick?

She's the one who accused Kavanaugh of, you know, it's like Madden Max in the Thunderdome and he's just raping everybody.

There's these gangs that roam around.

No, no, that was actually Mad Max.

That wasn't Brett Kavanaugh.

They're now saying she's not going to be part of the investigation.

Now, her attorney, guess who her attorney is?

Stu, you've been out of the country.

You've kind of missed the sweatnick thing.

Guess who this woman is who accused Kavanaugh of being at 10 parties that she attended, 10,

where

they were gang raping women.

Wait, she kept going to the party.

Don't ask me.

She was so oppressed, I guess.

She was like, I don't know.

Maybe the eighth one will be different.

Well, you never know until you go to 10.

I think that's what we always say.

You need at least 10 gang rape parties to prove that it's a negative concept.

So I don't know if you know this because I know you've been paying attention somewhat, but you have been on the continent

and so you've been away from the country for a while.

Yes.

If you don't know, can you guess who she got as her attorney?

It's got to be somebody super credible.

now johnny cochran's not alive right okay so no i don't know who uh storming daniels attorney avenati yeah yeah he's great avenati is essentially the democratic party at this point i think so everyone involved well that and louis just turned into avenati so why not have him involved that and louis farrakhan okay uh he says i'm still waiting for the fbi to contact me or my client yeah yeah i don't think they're gonna call

Since this has come out, we have discovered that Miss Swetnick might be far more dubious than we might have imagined before.

Files have emerged from a lawsuit against her 18 years ago.

Quote, shortly after becoming employed with Webtrends, a co-worker reported to Webtrend's Human Resources Department that Swednick had engaged in unwelcome sexually offensive conduct.

So she was the harasser.

Rather than accept responsibility for her actions, she made false and retaliatory allegations that other co-workers had engaged in inappropriate conduct toward her.

End quote.

Ten years ago, she filed a sexual harassment complaint, so that's two now, against New York Life.

For the task, she used the same law firm

that Christine Blasey Ford is using.

Isn't it a nice little web here?

The question is: when will people see through all of these games, all of these politics?

When are we going to see past the parties?

When are we going to see past even the people and start looking at the principles?

From the first moment of the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing, the Democrats have been nothing but obstruction, obstructionist.

Yeah, well, what about Garland?

What about him?

Nobody smeared him.

Nobody said anything about him.

I'm with you.

They should have voted him, should have given him an up or down vote.

But this is your response?

Which would have been a down, by the way.

Yes.

It would have been a down vote, and then nothing would have changed.

Correct.

Enough is enough.

America, it's time.

Enough is enough.

It's Monday, October 1st.

You're listening to the Glembeck program.

It is Monday.

And we're so glad that you're here.

Gian Carlo Sopo is on the phone with us.

Giancarlo is

a Democrat.

You still consider yourself a Democrat, Giancarlo?

Yeah, I mean, I have remained the same.

I haven't changed.

I actually take these political quizzes every now and then, and my ideology has stayed the same.

What's happening, though, is that the party itself has gone absolutely insane.

This is not what I signed up for.

Right.

I've been watching you on Twitter, and

you've been one of the the only Democrats that have come out and said, this is nuts.

Give me your view in the lay of the land from a Democratic point of view, from your point of view.

Sure.

I think it's perfectly legitimate to oppose Brett Kavanaugh's nomination on the basis of differences in judicial philosophy.

You know, if you believe certain things and he doesn't align with those beliefs, that's fine.

That's what the Democratic process is for.

Now, that being said, you leave it at that, right?

You don't go ahead and try to chop off someone's head and promote these outrageous accusations against them, specifically the one by this woman, Julie Swetnick, who just don't even pass a smell test.

I mean,

they are so absurd.

I actually attended an all boys Catholic school, too, so I could kind of speak to the culture and how those communities operate.

I mean, the thought that a group of 15-year-olds would be running a gang rape cartel all throughout high school and that nobody would know anything about it up until now is just ludicrous.

And then, that an adult, this woman must have been like 20 years old at the time that this happened, that she was frequenting parties with high school sophomores for two years.

I know, I know, as a high school sophomore myself, oh man, all me and my buddies, we were

the college chicks were all over us.

You know, women, women usually look for a younger man, you know, especially those in high school.

That never happens.

That never happens.

Especially Brett Kavanaugh, who, let's just be clear, the guy sounds like he was a complete dork

when he was in high school.

This is somebody who kept,

you can see on his calendar, he literally has notes of when his parents would ground him.

I mean, this guy was a complete dork in high school.

And he's like the kind of guy who, if he comes home with your daughter or your sister, you'd say, she really did well for herself.

This is great.

I'm really happy.

So the thought that this guy was running a gang rape cartel in the suburbs of Maryland is just asinine on its face.

But the thing is that we have entered, I think that we've abandoned traditional forms of religion, and now we're in the church of the social justice, right?

Where we just believe things based on a matter of faith, based on historical patterns of injustices and notions, and that's what's happening here.

They want to believe that this guy did all these horrible things

because,

women have had it raw for many years, and there has been a lot of sexism, and it still exists.

Therefore, he's guilty, right?

It's very similar to the rationale that we saw in the O.J.

Simpson trial, but almost in reverse.

This is like reliving the OJ case again, where OJ apparently, all the evidence pointed that he was guilty, but he

like half the country thought he wasn't guilty because the LAPD is allegedly racist, right?

So, you know, Sean Carlo, I just did a monologue on this about a half hour ago that

African Americans rightfully felt that the justice system had gone against the black man for so long.

Here is a black man fighting for his life, and they

wanted him to beat the system.

I don't think at the time they actually believed he was

innocent more than they wanted a black man to beat the system.

You'll go back and you look at the polls then to the polls now in the African-American community.

They all know that he killed Nicole.

They all know it.

So what they were doing was saying they were rebelling against a system that was geared against them and they wanted that social justice.

That's exactly what's happening here.

Exactly, yeah.

And let me tell you, I think Dr.

Ford, who testified, she's a serious person, she's as qualified as a witness as someone could possibly want on on the witness stand, right?

But when you actually start dissecting her testimony, I think as you pointed out earlier, it has tremendous flaws.

Just

a series of inconsistencies that would make it physically impossible for Brett Kavanaugh to have done this.

Or at least, at the very least, it severely limits the window of opportunity, right?

So the fact that the entire apparatus of the Democratic Party, which I understand how it works, I used to work in communications, in political communications.

So I understand how talking points are circulated and how people get on TV shows.

The fact that everything has been mobilized to support, look, the evidence just isn't there, right?

You don't crucify someone with zero evidence.

And then what they're doing now is that they're moving the goalposts, right?

I saw Lawrence tribe this morning, and he's like tweeting.

This guy's a respected Harvard scholar, right?

Law professor, who's talking about, well, you know, he must have drank when he was in college or whatever.

I mean, who cares?

It's completely irrelevant now.

I mean, I felt like tweeting at him, hey, Lawrence, those goalposts seem kind of heavy.

Let me know if you need help moving them.

So, Giancarlo, we're talking to Giancarlo Sopo.

He is a Democrat who

has not lost his footing

with reason.

So,

address people who are, let's say, a 20-something female that says, you know, but if there's a chance that this guy did this,

you know,

I don't want that guy on the Supreme Court.

Yes, and there's also a chance that he was D.B.

Cooper, right?

I mean, you have to go by the evidence in the case.

You have to evaluate cases based on

the unique dynamics of that particular situation.

There are other people that are just as qualified.

Why don't we just go?

I mean, this guy, why don't we just go to somebody else?

Well,

because

he's essentially being accused right now.

He's essentially on a summary public execution trial of

the worst crime in the United States of America in our legal system, short of murder.

The question now is, did he commit this, right?

And there's no evidence to reach that conclusion.

In fact, all of the evidence that has been presented is exculpatory, right?

The guy's calendar clears him, right?

The testimony of his friends clears him.

The absence of evidence also clears him.

So you have to cast that aside.

And then if you want to oppose his nomination based on his judicial record, that's absolutely fine.

That's a debate I'm willing to have with people.

But what we cannot do is become a banana republic where we just start convicting people, you know, air quotes,

on mere accusations.

That's not the way it is.

are.

This isn't a court of law.

This is not a court of law.

You don't have to have that kind of evidence.

Right.

But

you are absolutely right.

This would not meet any kind of legal standard, but it doesn't even meet a standard of common sense.

Because what you have here is a series of accusations that have been made with zero corroborative evidence, zero independent evidence to back this up.

And then when you actually analyze the

little evidence does exist, which is in the form of testimony of the alleged victim, her testimony, she contradicts herself in ways that are significant.

She changed the timeline of when this happened four times.

So, I think people need to cast this aside unless the FBI finds something new.

Well, but that guy, that guy, that guy, you know, the friend, Judge, Mark, Mark Judge, he sure seems like a bad guy.

Why won't he testify?

Well, he is going to testify to the FBI, but what we cannot do is play guilty by association, right?

Mark Judge, I've never met the man.

Nobody, 99% of this country has never met this man, right?

So we're just going off of hearsay right now and based off his own memoirs of somebody who was a very troubled person who had serious drinking issues.

It's not Brett Kavanaugh.

We're not nominating Mark Judge for the Supreme Court.

It's Brett Kavanaugh's the one who's who's being nominated.

And if people want to take issue with his judicial philosophy, that's fine.

But what we can't do is destroy someone's life, destroy his family.

The guy has like two young daughters.

He coaches basketball for crying out loud, right?

We cannot destroy somebody's life based on mere allegations just because we disagree with them politically or ideologically.

That's insane.

That's what they do in

banana republics and in third world countries.

It's not who we are in the United States of America.

Giancarlo Sopo, a Democrat, when we come back, I want to ask you, if you don't mind holding on for a second, Giancarlo, do you have time?

I actually have to run to a meeting.

Oh, okay.

All right.

We'll run to a meeting.

We'll talk some other time.

Thank you so much.

I really want to hear from people

that can respond to what I'm hearing from the Democrats now, which is

we just have to stop all of these people.

All the people on the right.

You know, we need to break up their dinners.

You know, as I said earlier,

one prominent Democrat said we should,

what stops us from disturbing people where they sleep well that would be their home because these people are destroying our republic i have one question

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I want you to ask your friends this.

Let's imagine for a second that every single person that you want elected, from

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And they are putting in all of the policies that you want.

It's your utopia.

There remains about 50% of the country, and I'm going to be really generous.

I'm going to make it a lot easier.

There's 30 or 40% of the country that disagrees with your utopia.

They just want to go in a different direction.

What do you do with the 40% of the population that does not agree with you?

What do you do with them?

What do you do to make sure that those people don't start infecting the minds of others?

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What happens with the ones who won't comply with these new rules?

What do you do to make sure that that utopia remains in place by keeping all of those people in power?

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And if history tells us anything, it swings the other direction.

Once you have the power, what are you willing to do to keep the power?

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What are you willing to do to keep your power?

The answer in America is nothing.

What are you doing to silence those who will not comply?

The answer in America is nothing.

So, anytime somebody says

we should shout these people down,

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All thought is creative.

When you begin to speak things,

you speak them into existence.

When you say we should round people up, the more people that say we should round people up, we should disturb them in their own homes.

We should pick it and surround their houses.

The more that you say that, the more reality is created in that direction.

Be very careful on what you say and what you think.

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I will not do anything to my neighbor who disagrees

with me.

I will not do anything and everything to hold on to power.

I will state my case and I will duke it out on the battlefield of ideas.

I will not silence other people.

I will not smear or destroy other people.

I will not become everything I despise.

I will not become a fascist to stop fascism.

Back in a minute with the Libertarian candidate for governor of New York, Larry Sharp, when we come back.

You know, I'm so sick and tired of people saying,

well, we don't have any choice, you know, and nobody's going to vote for the Republican in New York, so we don't really have a choice.

Well, you do have a choice.

Why is nothing in life binary except elections now?

Sex!

Your gender isn't even binary.

That's scientific.

No, no, it's not.

No, it's not.

I'm a three-winged dragon today.

Oh, okay, I accept that.

But you're not going to throw your vote away on a libertarian, are you?

That's crazy.

In New York, there's a guy that I've been watching for a while.

His name is Larry Sharp, and he's running for governor of the state of New York.

And

I think he is worth a serious look.

If you're a voter in New York,

I have 15 minutes or maybe less than now, 12 minutes now scheduled with him, but I'm hoping that he has more time because I think you're going to be fascinated by his story.

And I want to start at the beginning with him.

Let's go to Larry Sharp now.

Hello, Larry.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn, how are you doing?

Good morning.

Good morning.

So I wanted to talk to you

really from the beginning, if you have time,

to tell me the story of your life

because

you were, you've had kind of a rough childhood.

Your dad was black.

Your mom was white.

They weren't married.

It was in the 60s.

That's not a popular thing.

Mom's family, she was afraid, wouldn't accept you.

Is that how it started?

That's true.

Okay, tell me the story from there.

Sure.

I was born in Manhattan,

as you said, biracial parents, and my biological mom didn't think the family would accept me, so she put me up for adoption.

So my Bosco father was not in my life, so I don't know what he was thinking, but that he wasn't in my life.

So I was very lucky, and I was adopted by a biracial couple.

My mother was, my adopted mom, who was my mother,

was German and met my father, who was black in the army in Germany.

They brought me to the South Bronx, and that's where I was raised, by Yankee Stadium.

And you might know in the 70s and 60s when I was raised, this was not the best neighborhood.

So that's where I was raised.

My father was a corrections officer at Rikers Island, the jail here in New York City.

And my mother was a waitress and then worked in a bank.

She then left, and we left together.

We got enough money to actually packed up and moved out to Long Island when I was around 11 years old.

My father finally made enough money.

My mother, we worked hard to get that out.

We got out of the bad neighborhood and got to Long Island.

And when my we got to Long Island, my father died.

He died of cancer.

And when he passed away, it was very hard for my mom because...

How old were you?

I was 12.

Okay.

So when my father died,

my mother's family was in Europe and had basically abandoned her for leaving.

And my father's family abandoned us also.

So we were basically abandoned.

At that point, it was very hard for myself and my mom, of course, as you could assume.

So by the time I was 17, I was ready to get out of here.

And I decided to get out.

And I thought, you know what?

I'm going to go off and I'm going to join the army.

That's what I thought.

I'm going to go join the army like my father.

I'm going to be like my dad and go join the Army.

So I go off to the recruiting station.

And in this case, there are all four recruiters in the same building.

And I go to the Army recruiter and he tells me, son, it's going to be great.

We're going to make you a general in a month.

And you're going to be, you know, traveling the world and meeting beautiful women.

And I'm 17 thinking, my God, this is going to be great.

And I walk out with all the Go Army stuff in my arms and the book covers.

I'm still in high school at the time.

And he says, and as I'm walking out, the Marine Corps recruiter's there.

He's got his arms folded, and he says, hey, son, can I talk to you?

I said, sure.

Go inside.

He goes, that Army guy, he promised you a lot, didn't he?

I said, yeah, I'm going to be a general in like a month, running the world.

It's going to be amazing, meeting beautiful women.

I'm going to get a doctorate degree in three days.

It's going to be awesome.

And he says, yeah, we call that the solar plan.

Everything under the sun.

He goes, you know what I'm going to promise you?

I said, what?

He said, four hard years.

Are you ready?

I said, yes, and I signed up.

And I look back at that, and then I didn't know what I was doing, obviously.

I was just reacting.

But when I look back at that, I know I was desperately seeking positive male role models I didn't have.

And the Marine Corps gave me many of them, and that was a great thing.

Now, the Marine Corps, the military is not for everybody, and not everyone should join.

But for me, it really helped me tremendously.

And I said all the time, without the Marine Corps, I would have been a punk because I was lost at 17, completely lost.

And the Marine Corps helped me tremendously.

And when I got out of the Marine Corps about seven years later,

my mom had really gone into a very bad place.

She couldn't handle me leaving.

She couldn't handle my father's death.

And she was addicted first to legal drugs and eventually illegal drugs.

And she was a victim of the drug war and she was a convicted felon.

So I pulled her out of prison and I used my whatever savings I had to try to get her back up and running, renting her an apartment and a house, I mean, a car, that kind of thing.

And she struggled.

If you've had a felon in your life, then you know how hard it can be, right?

They have that on their record, and then they feel less than, and then when they get a job, they're a hostage to that job because they're afraid there's another job for them, and it's just bad, bad, bad.

So, I said, you know what?

I'm gonna do something.

I've been taking action my whole life.

I'm taking action now, too.

And we decided to start our own business.

I figured if we're in charge and we're the bosses, you can't fire her.

That's it.

So, we started our own business.

We became truckers.

So, became, we had a small trucking company.

Well, what did you know about, but what did you know about business?

Nothing.

It didn't matter.

God bless America.

Oh, it didn't matter.

I have a choice.

I allow my mother to be hostage hostage or I do something.

What's my option?

Go to business school?

Is that what I was going to do?

I love it.

No.

Right?

I have two options.

I never have and never will ever measure any plan I have against perfection because perfection doesn't work.

I measure my plan against status quo because status quo is what I have.

Status quo was my mother as a hostage.

I don't accept status quo.

So we started business.

It did well.

It did well.

I actually left it, let her and my stepdad run it, and she ran it until she retired.

And when she retired, she did what too many New Yorkers do, and that is leave New York State, and she went to South Carolina to retire.

So she did that, and she was fine until she passed away several years ago.

But after that, that's when I went off to do my own thing.

I had many different jobs, and then decided, you know what?

The first business was successful.

Let me try another one.

So I started my second business.

And that's when I actually, that one actually did not do well.

And actually,

believe it or not, that's when I first heard you back when you won the Affili station

in morning the morning show get out of here yes that's when i first heard you doing your uh your jokes um about afghanistan

i remember that i remember i was i because i was driving around and i would actually listen to you i think you at 10 a.m is that right yeah yeah i think so yeah 10 a.m yes when you do your morning show i remember listening to you back then and um then i did that and i sold that business off it did not do as well as i wanted it to be to do but i always call that my mba that failure was my mba yeah um from that i then had one more job and then started this job now that this this this business now that I have, which I'm a trainer, consultant, teacher.

So I have large clients like Models and Estee Lauder and smaller clients like small law firms.

I teach leadership.

I'm an executive coach.

I teach business.

I've been an executive in a public company twice as a band-aid.

And I've taught at many colleges at Baruch, John Jay, and I've taught as a guest instructor at the graduate level of Yale and Columbia.

And now I've got a lot of people.

Okay, but what have you done with your life?

Seriously, what have you done?

I'm a loser.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

Holy cow.

So, you are a guy that,

to me, seems tailor-made for the times that we live in.

I mean, I think Barack Obama was also, in some ways, tailor-made for the times that we live in, and I don't think he lived up to his potential.

More division happened.

We need somebody that can speak to all sides with

credibility, somebody who can speak to prison reform with credibility and not an axe to grind, but common sense and experience.

Yes, I mean, this is a thing that I've talked about all the time.

You know, I've dealt with and seen the prison system from both, you know, both sides.

My father as a corrections officer, my mother as a felon.

And I say the same thing as I say in business, and that is when you want to fix something, you don't walk in and start dictating.

When you do that, you get rebellion.

When you do that, people say no.

The issue that we have, particularly in New York State, but throughout the country, is we have

two-sided thinking, right?

As you said before, binary.

Either every corrections officer is a thug and every single prisoner is a victim, or every prisoner is evil and should be killed, and every corrections officer is perfect.

And neither is true.

The reality of it is, to fix this

situation in prison, we have to have the corrections officers as part of the solution.

And that's hard for people to understand because they think they're part of the system.

Yes, but they see people every day.

What I know for sure, in in prison right now, we have people in jail who should probably never get out ever, who are bad people, should never get out.

And there are people who made a mistake, should pay the debt to society, and should then get a second chance.

And people probably shouldn't be in jail at all.

The issue is, I don't know which one is which, and I never will.

But you know who does?

Corrections officers, who deal with them every day.

Those are the people who deal with the inmates every day.

How do I know that to be true?

You look at Massachusetts right now, they have the Humbie program, which is a program that has COs, corrections officers, and volunteers from outside together with a specific community.

In this case, the community is veterans.

But you can pick any community, the community that the CEOs know and that they see in prison every day.

You make that happen, and all of a sudden what happens?

You now have people who've had that problem coming as volunteers, nourish your tax money.

You also have corrections officers who know how to control people, know which people who can get in there, know those who will be scamming, and will now see those who are scamming, and will put the people who need to have the right to to the second chance out there in this program.

How do we know that?

The recidivism rate in Massachusetts in general is about 75%.

With this program, less than 5%.

Holy wow.

Yes.

No specialized people coming in, corrections officers can do it.

Here's the problem in New York State specifically for corrections officers.

The life expectancy is 58 years.

That's it.

58 years old.

Not just that.

Every corrections officer I've met either knows someone who's committed suicide and or

knows someone who is so ready to leave, they have become completely apathetic to the system.

This is a problem.

All of them tell me the same thing.

Larry, you know, I'm already their therapist.

I'm already there, their marriage counselor.

I'm already their legal assistant.

I already helped them out with all kinds of things.

I'm already trying to help them.

There are so many CEOs who would happily shift into this world without having to change any or add any money, giving them an actual contract.

They haven't had a contract in three years in New York State.

That's how bad it is.

So we could actually fix things.

This is repairable if we actually use both sides and

go in and ask the people who are there how to fix it.

That's how you fix it in business.

That's how you fix it in life.

Larry, do you have time?

Could I hold you for a while?

Absolutely, sure.

Okay.

I want to take a break because I want to talk to you about the economy.

I want to talk to you about business.

Sure.

And, you know, the direction of California, where they've just mandated that, you know, women now have to be on the board of directors.

We're going in a completely bizarre

direction, and I would love to hear how you think you could make New York

more of a sane place.

Larry Sharp, he's running for governor as the libertarian.

And I'm telling you, if you are looking for a candidate in

New York, you could play the same game or you can try something different.

I want you to listen to Larry Sharp if you're in New York.

All right, we'll be back with him in just a second.

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We're talking to Larry Sharp, a native New Yorker, 15 years of experience, training, mentoring, international executives, entrepreneurs, salespeople.

He was in the Marine Corps.

He

has taught at Yale, Columbia, John Jay College.

He is also a guest instructor for English and management, as well as business.

He's running for the gubernator position in New York City.

Larry, I think I have about a minute here,

and I want to hold you over to the top, over past the top of the hour, if you don't mind, because I want to talk to you about the economy and business.

Could we do that?

Do you have time?

Okay.

Thank you for changing your schedule for us.

Just in 45 seconds or a minute, what's your take on the Kavanaugh thing?

What does it actually mean?

I don't know what that question means.

What does it mean?

I mean, is there a bigger principle at stake here?

I mean, what should we do?

How about that?

What should the average person do with the Kavanaugh information?

I think the,

look, I'm not happy with the way it went at all, but I'm okay with an investigation.

I don't think it's a bad thing.

We shouldn't assume someone's bad because one person says anything.

We do have to have innocent until proven guilty.

That's important, and unless proving guilty, that does matter.

I do work with criminal defense attorneys all the time, and that's a critical issue.

We have a situation to where because someone's accusation is harsh, that means the person is guilty.

We don't want that.

We want people to decide are they guilty or not.

Otherwise, I can simply use accusation as a weapon.

I don't like you, Glenn.

You killed somebody.

And now, well, killing someone is a serious accusation.

Therefore, Glenn should lose his ability to be in the media because the accusation is so harsh.

No, is it proved or not?

And that's the issue.

That's what I see from this.

That's the basic answer I would expect from somebody who is for prison reform.

That's the problem with our.

That's why we need prison reform.

One of the reasons is because

it has been unjust at times, and we need to make sure it's the facts and justice is blind.

Larry Sharp, running for the governor of New York, we're going to continue our conversation, talk about the economy,

trade, maybe if he he has any insight at all on this new NAFTA deal, which we have very few details on,

and how he can benefit the state of New York when we come back.

Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way.

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It's Monday, October 1st.

You're listening to the the Glenn Beck program.

So here we are about a month from the election, and things are changing.

Dynamic change is just over the horizon for our entire country.

And New York is trying to select, are we going to stay the course with Governor Cuomo or are we going to change course?

Now,

the Democrats are basically,

they are Democratic socialists now.

The Republicans, I think, are just the status quo, state by state.

You'd have to look at each.

But in New York, there is another choice.

A guy who seems wildly qualified for the job.

His name is Larry Sharp.

He's a teacher and guest instructor who has taught English, management, business at Yale, Columbia, John Jay College.

He's a Marine Corps veteran.

His professional life, his mother was having some issues, and he's like, I got to help her find a job.

I'm going to start a trucking company.

He did.

It was a big success.

And then he's a serial entrepreneur from there.

Larry Sharp, welcome to the program.

Thanks for having me, Glenn.

Appreciate it.

So, Larry, let's talk about what it means to be a libertarian in New York.

Yeah, it's actually a great thing, believe it or not.

I mean, to be full with you, it's

the only party that actually crosses the line.

Right now, we have a situation to where Republicans don't want to vote for Democrats, Democrats don't want to vote for Republicans, and we have 70% of New Yorkers who actually don't vote.

This is actually learned helplessness.

It's an issue where people are saying it doesn't matter.

In fact, most New Yorkers, if you ask them, they're thinking about leaving the state.

We have over 100,000 leaving every single year.

Over a million have left in the past eight years.

I will judge my term.

by a very simple number, and that is, are there still 100,000 New Yorkers leaving every year?

If so, I I failed.

If not, I'm winning.

I'm a business guy, and customers matter.

And as a governor, my customer is my population.

Am I drawing people into my state or am I pushing them away?

And right now, we're pushing them away.

That's what's happening right now.

The Democrats have basically run our state and a statewide level for about 16 years, give or take.

So if they were going to fix this state, they would have already fixed it.

The Republicans, they've been watching this for 16 years.

So my question to any Republican is, where's their plan?

Where's their movement?

Doesn't exist.

I've been doing this for one year, and in one year, I have both a plan and a movement.

They have nothing.

They have, the other guy is evil.

I have actual ideas.

I am the only non-establishment candidate in this race, which is why we can win.

And you've seen it.

Non-establishment is the answer.

Left or right, it's the answer.

And I'm one who can actually, you know, I can give the right what they want and the left what they want as long as you don't enforce your will on others.

And that's a limitation.

Amen.

I will tell you, Larry, I think that the

libertarianism

is really dicey because sometimes there's libertarians who, you're not libertarian enough.

Well, wait,

isn't that the point?

You're supposed to.

Yeah, all the time.

And there are those libertarians

that I think the last candidate for president was still kind of big state on many issues.

The great thing about libertarianism is it allows the individual to be as socially liberal as you want, but it also requires you to be fiscally responsible because it's turning things back to where they belong into the hands of the people.

So tell me something

in New York State specifically.

We don't want one city running the entire state.

And this is common in many areas, right?

New York State is so varied.

We have mountains as good as Colorado.

We have farmland as good as the Midwest.

We have lakes.

We have rivers.

We have Niagara Falls.

We have New York City, the biggest city in the entire nation.

We have it all in my state.

How in the world can that be run by one city?

It's impossible.

I want to allow counties to be counties and regions to be regions and people to be people.

And it's totally fine.

The issue becomes, why do I want to enforce my will upon you?

I want you to be as conservative or as liberal as you want to be.

People tease me and say, Larry, you're from Queens.

How do you know what's right for upstate?

I don't.

That's the point.

And guess what?

You don't know what's right for me in Queens either.

We're even.

How about I let you be you, you let me be me, and we can all be free together.

What a concept.

It can work.

It has worked.

That's our original idea.

We just haven't done it in a long time.

So, Larry, tell me

day one,

you're governor of New York.

What do you do?

There are several things I have to work on.

And to to be clear about this, when I win this thing, I can win this thing with about 30% or so of the vote because it's a five-way race in New York State, and we are a plurality state, not a majority state.

So we don't require 51%.

There's a runoff.

Whoever has the most.

That's how New York State works.

So I could actually win this thing with 30%.

So it's actually a winnable race.

So assuming that I win this thing, I'm going to have 30%.

30% of the vote for a third party is a mandate that will shock everything.

To be full with you, Glenn, this is the most important single election in the entire nation.

Not as a whole.

There may be other things that work more importantly as a whole.

But as one single election, if I come in first, it changes the entire nation overnight.

It does.

Not just for the Libertarian Party, but for any third party.

Yeah, no, it is.

It breaks the duopoly.

Yeah, this is this, I think, if people thought Donald Trump was groundbreaking, a libertarian winning in New York

would be an earthquake.

I mean, it would just change the political system overnight.

Absolutely.

It is that important.

Even coming in second would shock people, but first would literally change the nation.

It would give every third party a better chance.

It would make better Democrats and better Republicans.

Because right now, Republicans just have to talk about our protection from the Democrat.

They don't have to worry about small business.

They don't have to worry about smaller government.

They don't have to worry about lower taxes.

It's not important.

It's just, I'll protect you from the evil left.

And they'll let this same thing in return.

They don't have to care about civil liberties.

They're supposed to be, but they don't.

They're supposed to, they just go, I'm going to protect you from the evil right.

But when there's a third party there, when libertarians can point the finger and say, Democrats,

what happened to civil liberties?

Republicans, what happened to smaller government?

Now they have to change.

They have to be better.

It will change how everything works.

So day one is I have to recover from the shock.

There will be a massive, a massive culture shock within the state and within the nation.

But something else.

I don't have a career to protect.

I don't have people to pay back.

I don't have that.

So I can actually just do what I want, which is amazing.

I'm assuming that I will be in court my entire four years.

That's my assumption, and I'm fine with that.

But I have to focus on several things.

One, a complete reboot of education.

Two, a complete reboot of how we mandate every local county to pay for things that the people don't want to pay for, a thing called unfunded mandates.

That's how Albany, which is our capital in New York State, and Washington, D.C.

control every local county and take the power away from local governments.

Next, I have to create a culture of transparency because the problem with local governments now is they're enforcing the king's will.

So they are not transparent.

They are constantly being bullied.

And I don't want the state government to be, I'm the king and I enforce my will.

I want the state government to be, I will protect your rights of the individual against the local bully.

Sounds like you've read the Constitution.

What is that?

I don't know.

Yeah, I know, I know.

Don't worry.

It's an old dusty, outdated document.

There we go.

Yes.

New York State, I think we threw it away a while ago.

But yes, that's my point.

I want to make sure that, look, if we focus on the individual more, we will have better individual families, better individual businesses, better individual people who are trying to do their jobs, growth locally.

I want the local communities to provide more value to each community.

We don't do that well in New York State at all.

We have things called regional economic development corporations, which Albany, which is our capital again, decides where the money is spent.

And Alban decides where taxpayer money is spent within an individual county.

How about instead the counties can start to budgets at zero so they can decide what they want?

How about we add new ideas of volunteerism?

How about the concept?

I'll give you two interesting concepts.

One, instead of me focusing on lowering taxes, how about I focus instead on raising money through ways other than taxation and through lowering spending?

Here's one idea that does both of those.

We have bridges right now in New York State, and one of them is named the Mario Cuomo Bridge.

We literally have an Imperial Bridge named after our royal family.

That's embarrassing.

How about instead that bridge is named the Staples Bridge or the Verizon Bridge or the Apple Bridge?

And we can lease naming rights for the bridge.

We retain the asset.

Again, I'm a business guy.

I'm not giving my asset up.

I'm going to lease naming rights.

No hybrid model that fails every time.

Straight contractual.

That's all.

These are companies that are paying billions of dollars right now every year on marketing.

They drop $20 million on a stadium name that's used on the weekends.

I got a bridge you can name, and that bridge gets mentioned hundreds of times on every single day during rush hour in a

16 million person metro area, and hundreds of thousands of cars pass it every single day.

You will easily drop $50 million on that, if not more.

I love that.

Texas, hang on just a second.

Texas, New York's not going to listen to this guy.

Texas, you should listen to this guy.

This is a good idea.

Yes, absolutely.

But here's the best part.

Now we have them do a maintenance.

Again, we own it, so

we still inspect it.

So damage is still our responsibility.

Their job is just to repair it, right?

They begin to repair it.

What does that mean?

We're not spending money on the repairs, lower spending.

Not just that, contracts don't come through Albany, less corruption.

Someone else is spending it, so guess what?

We'll actually fix bridges.

Bridges right now in New York State collapse.

We don't have enough money.

These guys do.

We'll actually have safer bridges, less money, and guess what?

We can stop with tolls.

In New York City, some bridges cost $15 in cost.

I know.

If you're a truck driver, I know from being a truck driver, you pay by the axle.

You're dropping $75 to $100 to cross a bridge.

Less money, less corruption, safer, better service.

Boom, we raise billions of dollars.

This is just one idea, and there are many of them.

No one else talks about them.

This is what we have to work on in New York State.

We can do that.

So, Larry, you are, you it's amazing to me how we

are running

headlong,

just willing to give up everything that we have already,

the freedoms that we have, and embrace democratic socialism.

Yes.

But we won't embrace this very American idea.

How do you get the common sense Democrat and Republican who has been raised in New York, so their mentality is, I mean, this would sell in Texas.

How do you get them in New York to see, guys, this, this,

it's already selling.

They don't show up.

The Democrats think, I'm afraid, so let's just vote Democrat.

The reality of it is, again, 70% of New Yorkers don't vote.

Those who do vote vote because of fear.

We can't have fear be the reason why people vote.

It's simply the wrong answer.

Oh, man.

But I would say that in reality, I'm trying to change this to make it so that people stop voting for the less of two evils and instead vote for someone.

And it is working.

I am actually using if you've noticed I'm using non-traditional media traditional media does not want to cover me and polls don't want to deal with me but non-traditional media is working and I'm getting out there and people are seeing me they're responding to me and this is what's working the way to make this happen is through non-traditional media and believe it or not people are getting it they actually like it I hear all the time people say Larry I don't agree with everything you're saying but you actually answer questions you actually have a plan and they love it and that's what I say and look my plan may be faulty.

Maybe they won't, we can't lease all the bridges.

Maybe we can't raise 50 billion.

Maybe we can only raise 30 billion.

That's still a win.

Yeah, I know.

Okay, so happy with that.

Let me ask you, can I hold you over for one more break?

Yes.

Okay, hold you over.

And

tell me how we fix education and higher education.

It's out of control.

It's post-modernist.

It's indoctrinating.

And it's enslaving our children to debt.

When we come back, Larry Sharp, I have to tell you, if I was living in New York and I was a Republican,

I cannot imagine a reason why I would not vote for him.

The Democrat is going to win against the Republican.

Why would you not get into this camp and shake things apart?

Larry Sharp running for governor of New York.

Back in just a second.

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We're back with Larry Sharp.

He's running for governor in New York.

How do we change education in New York?

How would you change it?

We have to rebuild it from the bottom up.

I mean, it is totally, completely broken.

We drop $22,000 per kid and at best get mediocre results.

And the first thing is ending standardized testing until high school.

No standardized testing until high school.

Standardized testing is an unfair way of grading teachers, an unfair way of rewarding schools.

It makes kids who are 10, 11 and 12 who don't test well feel stupid.

It creates a second class of student in elementary school that's embarrassingly bad.

And it is absolutely no indication of success in life for the future.

That has to go away.

But when that goes away, a couple of things will happen.

In New York State, Common Core will go away.

Good.

I don't have a problem letting Common Core go away.

I'm the only guy who says let teachers teach and then does not add administrators.

I'm the only one who does that.

My goal is to remove administrators to allow teachers to actually teach.

We have school districts in New York State where there are more administrators than teachers.

That's embarrassing.

So once we do that, we will find all of a sudden we'll be able to get rid of a lot of administrators.

An average teacher in New York State makes about 80K.

The average administrator makes over six figures.

You get rid of two administrators, that's either two new teachers or raises or more equipment.

And to our point earlier, I don't decide what that is.

The school district does.

They know what they need and they can repair how they want to repair.

How are you going to deal with the unions?

I mean, the unions in New York are out of control.

Well, with the Janice decision, it helps, obviously.

But the issue here becomes: I'm not anti-union in any way, shape, or form.

The union leadership hates me because they're establishment.

The union workers love me because I'm the only one who would tell them I will negotiate openly, transparently with every union.

Unions are literally in the First Amendment.

They are freedom of speech,

freedom of association.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But as long as they're not forced to join, I don't have a problem problem with them at all.

The actual union members love me.

So that's why teachers are always behind me.

But I was asking you about the unions are in such control that you're paying, the state is paying for teachers

that have abused children and yet they are sitting in rubber rooms.

And that's my point.

Once most of that is happening because of both Albany and D.C.

control and Albany and D.C.

money.

From D.C., we get about $4 billion every year, and that controls a lot.

When that money begins to go away, number one, that will help.

But the second thing is, I'm not beholden to union leadership.

If they get mad at me, so what?

Union leadership is not going to vote for me anyway.

I don't need 70% of New Yorkers to vote for me.

I need 30% of those who vote.

You just said

$4 billion goes away from the federal government.

That's correct.

How are you going to where are you going to replace that with?

Absolutely.

And the first thing is we're going to lose administrators, which will make things a little bit better, but that isn't enough.

The second thing I want to change K through 12.

K through 12 should not exist.

It should be K through 10.

The last two years of high school for too many kids is, you know, gym, study hall, playing video games.

It's doing nothing.

How do we know this?

The first year of college for too many kids is 13th grade.

They're not ready for college.

And it takes over six years for the average kid to graduate college.

We're failing here.

So how about instead at 16,

you get your high school diploma if you pass a test.

Done.

Now you have several options.

Option one, if you think college is good for you, awesome.

Go to a very good two-year prep school to get you into the school you want.

So now you're ready to get to that school.

You can get there.

You can take advantage of incubators, of internships.

You may be graduating three years, and now you're rocking and rolling.

You don't like that?

No worries.

You're the super smart kid, the kid that tests well.

Awesome.

Take your SAT at 16, start your path onto your doctorate right away, get a two-year degree right then and there.

By 18, you have an associate's degree.

You don't want to do that?

No worries.

Go to a trade school.

New York State is starving for tradesmen.

Starving.

The average tradesman in New York State is 50.

I love my tradesmen, but you should not be the average.

The average should be more like 30.

So we're training people.

We don't, which is why we have a desperate requirement for tradesmen and foreign labor.

We need our kids to be jumping into trades like there's no tomorrow, and we push them away as if they're not important.

Larry, we are, I am, I am finally out of time with you.

I'd love to have you back before the election because I would like to talk to you about finances and the financial sector, which I think is abused in New York and abuses New York.

Larry Sharp, he's gubernatorial candidate in New York.

How do people find you?

What's the web address?

Larry Sharp for New York or LarrySharp.com.

And don't forget it is Larry Sharp with an E, and the E stands for electable.

LarrySharpwithane.com.

Thanks, Larry.

We'll talk again.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I'm interested to see the details of the new NAFTA plan.

Donald Trump says instead of jobs leaving America, they are excited that jobs will be now coming back to America.

That's quite a statement.

Love to see what's in it.

I hope it is as good as he says it is.

Pat Gray is joining us now real quick.

He's got the Pat Gray podcast

and on the Blaze Radio Network right after this show.

Some people would call it Pat Gray Unleashed, but I know you wouldn't.

No, I wouldn't because I'm not good at those things.

I'm not good at those things.

I'm good at helping name shows.

I'm not good at remembering the name.

But I think it was your idea to shoot it, and you still can't get it.

Yeah, I know, I know.

It's amazing.

So, anyway, Pat Gray Unleashed.

You can find it on iTunes and Stitcher and wherever you find

your podcast, or you can listen to him on the Blaze Radio Network.

Now, your outrage of the day.

This license plate collection that's going on by the government.

You know, those little signs that tell you how fast you're going?

Yeah.

They're starting to use those to collect licenses.

It's not just to warn you, hey, you're going 33 instead of 30.

They're also recording your license plate number in there and keeping it on file just in case you ever commit a crime, which is fantastic.

Because.005%

of people

are recording and collecting their data are actual criminals.

So five thousandths of one person.

If we can save one child, it's worth it.

It could save one child.

It's worth it.

So what's your problem with this?

Why don't you feel comfortable with the government having your whereabouts?

Well, because I don't know what the government is going to consider

bad in the future.

Between this, the NSA collection of email and phone calls and civil asset forfeiture, this just isn't America anymore.

No, it's not.

And we need to wake up and realize that.

And I would like to add one other deal, the Brett Cavan on Me Too kind of stuff.

Right.

Where the first step is

dumping stuff up have you seen the we're not even innocent until proven guilty anymore there's the new you know we've been talking about deep fakes for a while now and i don't think most people even know what a deep fake is but deep fakes they have just hit another milestone and that is your gait uh and your mannerisms that it can now mimic it can take a video of you

And it can take another video, or they can just type in what they want it to say, and they can take a video of you moving, talking, walking, doing whatever, and then they can shape a fake you

doing and saying whatever they want it to say.

And now, the mannerisms, the gait, the expression

in your voice.

The voice is not good yet, good enough to fool anybody.

Wow.

But it is twice as good as it was last year.

And it is starting to move.

It's starting to,

you cannot tell the difference with an exception of just a few things are glitchy.

By 2020, this is going to play a role.

And whose program is that?

Is that a Google thing?

Is it?

I don't know who's working on.

I don't know who's working on them.

A lot of people are working on them.

Can you imagine the stuff we can get Jeffy convicted for now?

And we don't even have to fake it.

That's all.

That's the amazing thing.

This is the fake me.

Yeah, yeah.

So Jeff Fisher is also joining us because he's starting a new podcast today, Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher.

Very excited.

We've been doing a segment on Pat Unleashed for a few months now, and it's only time to expand.

Everything else has.

Might as well.

Podcast.

Might as well.

I mean, you're well aware of that one.

Is that a fat joke back on the music?

It definitely is.

It definitely is.

It definitely is.

It was okay when you said it about yourself, but when you bring it to the other person, did you hear the first

one?

That was really wrong.

Why would he attack you?

I don't know.

I don't know.

So, fat soul.

Thank you.

the podcast comes out today.

Yes, it starts today, Monday through Friday,

every afternoon.

And

remind me again why I thought it was worth paying you to do this.

What are you doing on your first show?

I don't know yet.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Gwen.

Look, you can worry about the end of time, blah, blah, blah.

We need to worry about the saving of the Constitution.

Yeah, right.

The world's going to, I got it.

But nobody, people want to be able to go home and laugh with their kids a little bit, right?

Yeah.

I mean, really, they want to make it, instead of going home wanting to, you know, end it, to end their life,

which, you know, a lot of times I have done.

So, you know, I just want to be able to have people know what's going on in the world, but give them a little bit of a laugh, you know, a little think about things.

And we still talk about stuff that's going on.

I mean, my favorite internet poll of the weekend was, if your 16-year-old daughter needed to get a ride home at night alone, who would you want to give her a ride?

brett gavanaugh joe biden anthony weiner bill clinton i mean something to think about just a thought

just a thought i mean i i think i think we all know what the answer is oh my god

yeah you can add bill cosby in there just to

yeah well but you know bill wasn't driving yeah yeah yeah you shouldn't drive at night either no you shouldn't yeah after after a few drinks why wouldn't you go get your own kid really i mean i mean if those are your choices i would pick i would pick brett and he could take them home.

It's interesting.

I was talking to somebody who has a son who's about to go to college, and they were talking about

what to do, right?

Like, as this is a different era you're going into.

And their advice was: if you're ever at a party and there is a girl who is, you know, drunk,

what would you normally do in the old days?

You would

take them home.

You'd make sure they were taken care of for that night.

Never.

They said, never do that now.

Because if you do that, you're the person alone with this girl.

God only knows what happens for this lady.

Look at this.

Look at this.

Is this not

is, I don't want to use this word.

Is this not

are you thinking of a word that starts with N and ends in Otsy?

No, it starts with E and ends in Vil.

Look what it's doing.

It is.

It is making us afraid to do

what the Lord would have us It's the right thing to do.

Right.

Help them.

The right thing.

Help them.

Make sure they're taken care of.

They're out of control.

Less interaction.

And it stops us from doing that.

And if we stop doing that, then who does it?

Yeah.

The state.

And if the good guy doesn't step in to make sure the girl gets home alone, she's left with the bad guys.

Yeah.

The buns who aren't thinking that way.

And God only knows, it could actually increase these incidents.

I think this kind of stuff will.

I mean, I think this is going to

eventually, if this doesn't stop, perpetrators will be hiding in plain sight.

They'll just be like, yep, because nobody will care.

Nobody will believe anything anymore.

You can't, they've, it's like racism.

We know that racism exists, but it has been so overplayed.

It really takes somebody to say, I think that guy's a racist.

I think it takes a lot for you to say, really?

Why do you say that?

Yeah, there has to be like legitimate convincing evidence.

Right.

Now it's like, yeah, yeah, I know, I know.

Yeah, and he's a bigot misogynist as well.

You know, it's just a throwaway term now.

Well, one of the things I'm excited about on the Jeff Fisher podcast, Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher.

If you search for Jeff Fisher on iTunes, it'll come up.

And this week, we experienced this back in the day with this show on Pat and Stu.

I know on Pat Gray Unleashed.

Jeffy has a unique ability to find these stories, and they always make me a tad uncomfortable when he goes through them.

But that's kind of the world Jeffy lives in.

And

he always adds something to

your understanding of the news and the bizarre trends that are just ahead.

So I am excited to see this in full force.

I'm excited too.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

Look, there's, you know, I'm here to help too.

I mean, you know, reminding people that, you know, there's 85 days till Christmas.

Just counting them down.

Think of that.

You know, I mean, there's only, what, 30-some days left until the election that we're all worried about

coming on.

And how many hours before the fat man arrives?

I mean, your podcast?

Oh, wait.

That's a different.

He's just not jolly.

We're going to have it for you.

You know, 4 p.m.

Central, 5 p.m.

Eastern.

Okay, good.

Wherever your favorite podcast is.

Here's the thing.

I saw that you vetoed the logo for the show.

And I don't know if you know this, but you you don't veto here.

What do you mean?

You don't veto.

I don't veto.

You asked me what I liked.

You said that one, and I really don't like the other one.

No, I didn't say I really don't like the other one.

I just like the other one better.

Is this the one that I saw, the one that seemed to have Jeffy's face seared into a steak?

Yes.

Shit is a great one.

And you notice your cheek.

Yeah, his cheek.

His cheek is right on the fat to the marbling of the steak.

That's why I like the other one better.

And you said no to that?

You said no to to that.

You just say no to that.

That will be up.

When you go by this afternoon, when you go to download

Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher, is it perfect?

You'll see it.

You'll see it.

Because

I heard on Friday, no, Jeffy really doesn't want that.

And I said, I'm going to talk to Jeffy Monday.

That's the logo.

That means the logo.

Even if you don't get to listen today, you have to at least go and check out the logo.

Yeah, you just go to iTunes and subscribe right now just because you don't even have to listen to it.

It'll make you laugh every day when it pops up.

You'll just see him in a marbled steak, and you'll be like, Yeah,

yep, that's what he should have used.

Thanks a lot, Jeff.

Pat, thank you.

The Pat Gray radio extravaganza, otherwise.

Pat Gray Unleashed.

Yes, otherwise known as Pat Gray Unleashed.

And Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher.

Those are the two podcasts you should go subscribe to right now.

You'll see the one with the steak marbling his face later on.

Deal now.

Okay.

I'm pretty sure that's a done deal.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

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So this Kanye, this Kanye West thing is just amazing.

He says he was bullied behind stage by the Saturday Night Live crew and staff saying, come on, man, you can't wear the Trump hat.

And he wore the Trump hat.

And

then he gave

a pro-Trump speech that was edited

out of the show.

But on the way back,

he tweets

on his airplane just him in the Trump hat, and he tweets something about,

you know, we got to abolish the 13th Amendment.

And the left goes crazy.

And they're just all about, oh, he wants to bring slavery.

See, that's what Trump people are like.

They want to bring slavery back.

Really?

Really?

You don't play that game?

I can understand that from conservatives, but do me a favor, I just want you to Google 13th Amendment Huffington Post.

See how many stories come up.

That is not about abolishing slavery.

That is about saying that we never abolished slavery.

That the 13th Amendment was just a ruse, that we went from the plantation to the prisons.

That's what that meant.

He's talking about prison reform,

and everybody on the left knows it.

Everyone.

Because he has a Trump hat on.

They're going to act as if that isn't what.

African-American guy

wants slavery, which is just ridiculous.

That is so dishonest.

I've always found it is interesting that the 13th Amendment did not outlaw slavery.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime whereof the party has been duly convicted, shall exist with the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

So

it does make that distinction that if you commit a crime and you're in prison, then you can have to work under those circumstances,

which is something that we all kind of understand, is kind of interesting.

I mean, there's no exception.

I mean, you're making license plates, whatever you're doing,

there's nothing bad.

It shouldn't have been called slavery.

It should have been abolished.

And there should be an amendment that says that

you can have this.

But this is.

This is an activist situation where the people who are for prison reform, for

letting people out of prisons, are saying that basically you're arresting black people to get them to be slaves so you can still be within the 14th Amendment.

This is post-modernist nonsense to the nth degree.

And in case you're wondering, a lot of people are thinking, oh, Kanye West is a conservative.

He's got the Tamaga hat on.

He obviously likes some of the stuff Trump is doing, but this is not a conservative argument by any means.

He's not an ideological conservative.

No, but he is, I mean, that's his language of saying we need prison reform.

Well, I agree.

I think we need prison reform too.

Yeah, it's a generic statement, right?

It's certainly not a perfect.

But he's using the reason why the left is getting away with, you know, making his tweet look racist is because

they know this language.

He's using their language.

Right.

And again, it shows that they don't care about the issue as much as they care about political power.

The fact he's supporting their far-left viewpoint.

Yes.

Kanye West is echoing a far-left rallying cry of activists.

And they'd rather trash him because of the hat he wears.

That shows the depth of this.

This is all about power.

Again, it's not about the principle.

You think the left cares about prison reform.

Kanye West and his wife have done now more with Donald Trump on prison reform than a lot of presidents have done and a lot of celebrities.

They're more interested in killing his career and reputation and smearing him than actually getting prison reform done.

That should tell you something about who they are and a little something perhaps about how they're dealing with Brett Kavanaugh as well.

Glenn, back,

Mercury.