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It's Stu, along with Jeffy.

He's joining me here.

Pat also was on the show today.

Yeah, he was alright.

He was okay.

I mean, you know, yeah,

if you like that sort of thing, I guess he was.

We start the show with Jeffrey Toobin, who, I mean, has made ridiculous points.

And a point, you know, you go if you watch a lot of cable news, you wind up just hearing the same points over and over again.

I will say this for Jeffrey Toobin.

I have never heard the point he made last night.

I've never heard anyone make it.

I've never heard anyone accuse this organization of this.

It's a claim about racism that is brand new to me.

So we've got a new thing in our...

That's kind of interesting in this world.

It actually is, yeah.

You feel like everything's been said.

And Jeffrey Toobin breaks that today.

We have the new NPR study about school shootings, which is incredible.

Absolutely incredible.

And some great reporting by NPR.

You will be surprised that they even decided to do this.

Boy, that's for sure, because you'd expect NPR to look at the original number and go, wow, that's bad.

You people are all bad, instead of going, hey, that number seems high.

Yeah.

Louis C.K.

is back from his Me Too,

I guess, trip to Siberia.

He's made his first appearance.

That's where they wanted him to go.

He's made his first comedy appearance in New York, and we'll talk about that.

And

what's the appropriate punishments for these actions?

We'll get into that today, as well as a brand new story about civil asset forfeiture.

Another person who did nothing wrong, has no crime against him, and lost a bunch of their money in an inexplicable development across the United States.

I don't know why this is happening, why more people aren't standing up against it, but it is happening.

I mean, all these municipalities are using this, and there's a couple other ways now that people are sending us that these cities are using just to,

you know, obviously it's for our safety and to enhance their payroll.

Yeah,

it doesn't sound like a good idea.

And if you heard the rumor of Alex Johan's viewing trans porn on the air by mistake, what?

He's got an explanation from that.

It's fascinating.

We get to all of that today on the podcast.

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We were just talking about Trump derangement syndrome.

And

there's a couple of terms that circulate through the media all the time.

One of them is fake news.

The other is Trump derangement syndrome.

And

they bug me.

And I think they bother you to a certain extent, Stu, because it makes it, I don't know, it just makes it seem like everybody who says anything about the president

has Trump derangements.

And that's not the case.

I mean, we don't have it, and we complain about some of the things he does.

Yeah, I mean, the test usually is whether you can find things that you like, right?

I mean, we can, and we've made, you know, we've gone through many, many things that we do like that the president has done.

But I will say even his critics, though, I don't think are always affected with Trump derangement systems.

Like, if

you're a liberal, right?

And you see things like Neil Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, you may very well not like those on ideological grounds.

That doesn't mean you have Trump derangement syndrome.

That means you just don't like his picks, right?

There seems to be a different situation going on for some people, though.

Although, yeah,

if there's any location that's infected with supposed Trump derangement syndrome, it's just about everybody at CNN, including Jeffrey Toobin.

I mean, he's a guy that once in a while makes sense, but not really when it comes to Trump.

Yeah, he just,

there's a sign of the, if you're going to make Trump derangement syndrome into something, there's a sign of it of like pulling every issue, no matter how separate

from race and

hatred, bringing all of them to that, no matter what it is, whether it's a Supreme Court pick, whether it's a tax decrease, whether it's

talking about North Korea, whatever you can, bring it back to the idea that the reason he's doing X, Y, and Z is because he hates black people.

It's just going to that same boring analysis, saying every single thing revolves around that one issue.

And it shows, of course, it reveals your obsession with that issue.

It reveals your obsession, not ours, but your obsession with skin color, with your obsession with

reproductive organs, your obsession with that.

That's not something that we want to care about, but you're constantly bringing it up.

And this is a perfect example from yesterday with Jeffrey Toobin when he was talking about

the president saying how if Republicans lose in the midterms and the Democrats take control of the House, there's going to be violence in the streets.

And listen to the way Jeffrey Toobin spins that.

The theme here is, I'm Donald Trump and I'll protect you from the scary black people.

Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization.

Oh, it's not.

And this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.

This is about black versus white.

This is about Donald Trump's appeal to racism and it just happens all the time and we never say it or we don't say it enough for what it is.

Don't say that.

That's what's going on.

That is amazing.

Okay.

Antifa is widely considered just black people by whom?

By you, maybe?

Like you said,

like you were just saying, Stu, that says more about him than it does Donald Trump.

A lot more.

I mean, that's racist.

Yeah, I mean.

Because nobody considers Antifa

just black people.

I consider them anarchists.

I consider them hell-bent on chaos and communism.

I don't consider them black necessarily.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But even more than that, we've done a lot of coverage on this group.

We've, you know, we've done multiple, you know, Glenn's done the week-long chalkboard on them.

He's done multiple big monologues about them, their history, where they came from.

First of all, they did not come certainly from African-American roots in any way.

They came from, you know, it started back in World War II.

But beyond that, all the videos we've seen of Antifa, I'm not saying there's no black people.

They're usually organization, but I can't think of one picture in my brain of ever seeing a black person in Antifa.

Yeah, I can't either.

I'm sure they are.

I mean, just because odds, but I've never, I can't remember ever seeing one.

They're almost always like the person who you think you're going to bump into Starbucks the next day.

Some like, you know, tortured, angsty, you know, 22-year-old who, you know, who went to too many communist college courses and now thinks they're going to change the world by throwing things at people.

I don't know that I've ever heard anyone make the point before, ever.

This is like the first time I've ever heard the point that black people are associated with antifa in some way.

They're just, it, I always think of it as like that, like Seattle Starbucksy, uh, you know, angst.

I don't think at all, it's not a racial organization at all.

It started against fascism back in the day, and you can make an argument when it started, it actually did good things, but it's been evolved to, at this point, it's ridiculousness.

I mean, it's just anything that they're just anarchists now.

Yeah, yeah, they're just left-wing anarchists.

And it's uh,

it's agonizing to

continually hear the nonsense that everything's about race.

And, you know, that just diminishes when things are about race.

When you make everything about race, you've just watered down the actual racism that does exist.

And we see from time to time.

Certainly not as much as CNN sees it.

But

I don't think I've ever heard Donald Trump even say anything about Antifa being

groups of black people.

No.

I haven't heard anybody saying it, not just us.

Nobody claims that it's about blackness.

And this is what surprises me all the time, like when you have

these issues that pop up with race.

It's the left has

immersed themselves so completely in this issue.

And to them, it is like the ultimate equation that solves all math problems.

You know, it's just, I remember when Barack Obama was going and they talked about an apartment, and they said that was racist.

It's like an apartment.

I lived in a lot of apartments.

There's a lot of white people that live in apartments.

Way more white people live in apartments nationwide than black people do.

I mean, it's just an absurd thing because Chicago.

Yeah, Chicago.

It was a dog whistle for black people.

Right.

And like, no, that's, that's, there's a lot of violence that goes on there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Chicago.

That's uh, that's code for black people.

It's an absurd instinct.

The word car, that's code for the people.

People.

Yeah.

Really?

The word the.

If you use the too much, that's code word for black people.

You mean the black people.

That's what you mean when you say the word the.

What explains that motivation, though?

Racism.

I think it's racist.

I think that in and of itself is racist.

I think Jeffrey Toobin's a racist.

I'm just so tired of beating around the bush with these people on what they are and who they are.

I'm really kind of done with it.

When you see race everywhere, when that's all you think of, maybe you should turn turn that, you know, look in the mirror, become a little bit introspective.

Maybe you're the racist.

Yeah, because I think there's an instinct, especially with the older, I mean, we used to say this about Chris Matthews.

Chris Matthews went through a generation in which race was such a big issue for people.

And it was something that was constantly talked about.

And I, you know, really, until Obama kind of got in there and, you know, he was, he really came from that perspective of viewing everything through the prism of race.

He constantly saw things in racial terms.

To the point where he said this.

You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour.

Because usually that's all I think of.

That's all I think so.

Right.

Like you think of, when you think of everything in the term of black and white,

well, shockingly, everything becomes a black and white issue.

Yeah.

And, you know, it's the same thing that happens with conspiracy theorists, right?

Conspiracy theorists, when you get down the road to 9-11 and you get down the road to Sandy Hook and you go down all these things, well, of course every shooting seems like a false flag to you.

Every time you see something, you think it's a conspiracy theory with the government.

And it's the same thing with the left and race.

It's not this, there are actual things, just like with conspiracy theories, governments do actually do bad things.

They have done things at times that are really terrible.

But it's the same thing with this, where you have racial issues that are real.

There are actual racial issues that come up.

But when you see everything that way, you can't stop yourself from pulling things that are, you know, 15 lanes over from race back into your lane because that's all you think about all of them.

But it also, like Pat said, then lessens the real racism.

Yeah.

I mean, it just weakens that all the heck.

And that's the same with, you know, the full Trump derangement syndrome.

You know, there are times when you want to be against Donald Trump, but you listen to the deranged syndrome people and you're like, okay, well, no, I'm not that bad.

Yeah.

You don't want to be those people.

I'm not going there with you.

I mean, in a way, that's letting someone else control the way you feel, which I don't like either.

You know, just because the media says stupid things shouldn't affect my opinion.

I should be able to come up with my opinion on my own.

But this is another example of it.

They did this thing a while ago where it was like, you know, 13 of the last 15 people that Donald Trump has called dumb were black.

And this proves.

And Toobin actually kind of references it there.

Except that seven or eight of them were the same person.

Yeah, no.

Yeah, I think it was something like 10 of 11 or something like that.

Yeah.

It was Mexican.

John Waters and Don Lemon, the two.

And you also, to believe this theory, you have to also believe that he was not racist at all until he was elected because he did, before that, he was calling white people dumb all the time.

All the time.

And then for the whole first year of his presidency, he only called one person dumb, Mika Brzezinski, who's white.

So you have to believe he developed the racism, not in his first 71 years, but in the last year.

And in that last year, he developed the racism all

solely based on Maxine Waters and Don Lemon.

Isn't an easier explanation of that?

Is he doesn't like Maxine Waters and Don Lemon?

Maxine Waters and Don Lemon have been recently criticizing him.

And what Donald Trump does in those moments is call them dumb.

It's just like he called Jeb Bush dumb and Marco Rubio dumb and Tim Cruz dumb.

She is dumb.

He had a really good point there.

Jeb Bush is dumb.

Some people are.

So is Maxine Waters.

Yeah, she is.

Now, Don Lemon, I do not think, is dumb.

Yes, she is.

He is an opponent and he's, you know, he's liberal at times.

And I don't, but Maxine Waters, I think, pretty clearly is dumb.

She makes incredibly stupid cases.

She's made a good case

of being dumb the last few years, if not her entire life.

Her whole career.

I mean,

there could be other examples.

Maybe she's

losing her sharpness as she gets later in life.

I don't know.

But I mean, she is tripped up and made really

insane comments.

Hank Johnson.

Hank Johnson comes out and says Guam's going to tip over.

Can we not say that he's dumb because he's black?

He happens to be a black person.

No, that's not.

That's a dumb comment.

That's a dumb comment.

White or black, whoever said it, that's a dumb comment.

You know, Guam's not going to tip over because you put too many military forces on one side of it.

That's not what islands do.

Okay?

So, I mean, can we not observe that sometimes people have those moments?

Do you have that from a scientist?

Yeah.

I had it from a military source.

Okay.

Who immediately was like, oh, we don't anticipate that happening.

Great.

One of the greatest responses of all time.

So good.

But, you know,

you're right.

Taking these things from issues that are not related to race and trying to move them into

that analysis weakens the actual case.

And it doesn't, it doesn't make any sense.

It's the same thing, you know, like the alt-right.

Largely speaking, the alt-right is a, is a, is a small group compared to, you know, conservatives and Republicans and everything else.

But when you try to, you know, call every single Republican alt-right,

you

fail.

You fail because you then weaken the case against people like Richard Spencer, who is really a problem.

Like that theory,

his theories, I think, are real negative and certainly have nothing to do with conservatism.

But when you bring like Mitt Romney in and you call him alt-right, it doesn't, there's no, there's, there's, you lose all value in your criticism.

Yeah, and all credibility.

Yeah.

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NPR has a really surprising study that they did.

I'm blown away that NPR, first of all, paid attention to it in the first place.

Secondly, actually reported their findings

because this doesn't seem to fit their narrative.

No, and it's one of those stats that when you hear it, it blatantly fails to you as possible.

You know, you'll see liberals constantly share these numbers.

There's been 7,000 school shootings this year.

Is there any moment where you just sit back and say, there's no way that's possible?

Like, you obviously know it's not true.

Is there any part of you that gets to that point in your analysis?

Well, there were supposedly in 2015, 240 school shootings.

Right.

And we know that's preposterous.

Of course.

That didn't happen.

Now, sometimes they get to those numbers in various ways.

For example, a guy who has no association with a school.

At midnight feels despondent, leaves his home, pulls into the back corner of the school parking lot, and shoots himself.

Is that a school shooting?

Well, to any incident with a gun on school grounds.

To any

gun-hating organization, that's a school shooting.

And they'll put that in.

You'll have times where police officers will come and the police officer will mistakenly shoot his gun that hits no one and they'll call it a school shooting.

You know, someone, there have been times where pellet guns.

Some kid will bring in a pellet gun and shoot one of his friends and they'll call it a school shooting.

These are the type of things they go in there to deduce the numbers because we know the problem is there.

There is a problem with school shootings.

However,

we don't have to juice the numbers because there was 240 shootings in 2015.

And this is a U.S.

Department of Education report.

So, you know, it's some credibility, I guess, behind it.

It's not like, you know, it's not Mother Jones or, you know, every town for gun safety.

This was a government report, which people, generally speaking, will take seriously.

The year was 2015, 2016.

Nearly 240 schools reported at least one incident involving a school-related shooting.

NPR,

God only knows the reason, decided to actually check into this, which is amazing in and of itself.

Because usually, when the gun, when there's a stat about guns that make guns look bad, nobody looks into them.

That's kind of the policy.

Yeah.

But

in this case, what they found was amazing.

240 school shootings.

They write in 161 cases, schools or districts attested that no incident took place or couldn't confirm one.

So what they're saying is not not the stuff I'm talking about before, where like it's a pellet gun or it's a guy committing suicide near school grounds.

No, they're saying 161 of the 240 were just nothing.

It's even more amazing than that because of the remaining 59 cases,

they couldn't be con some of those couldn't be confirmed or disconfirmed.

So they're unsure on them.

They actually found only 11 confirmed by either the schools or through news reports 11 out of 240 it's amazing it's amazing

and you know again if you have a school shooting it's probably gonna be easy to confirm you know you call parkland school district right now they're gonna be able to confirm a school shooting occurred there yeah uh some of this is amazing uh

civil rights data collection for 2018 required every public school more than 96 000 to answer questions on a wide range of issues what it appears is they put the wrong number like they someone put i think it's cleveland put 37 in for school shootings, and they meant to answer the question before it.

So

now, if Cleveland had 37 school shootings, I feel like we might have heard of that.

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You know, there's some kind of Ruth Bader Ginsburg hysteria going on right now.

And I, you know, not only is there a documentary,

there's a major movie release coming out, I think, on Christmas Day.

And now there's a CNN special.

Are they running the...

Is it

playing the documentary?

Which is, man, are they promoting that thing?

Ruthsteria.

Yeah.

Steria is good.

I like that.

I like Ruth Steria.

It is really amazing.

You know, again,

there was a Ruth Bader Ginsburg documentary made, and just like praising her.

There's like a little cult following around her, and it's kind of one of those things that here's this little tiny old lady who's super tough and doesn't give up on her.

And of course, she's super liberal, which helps.

But I honestly think it's part of it is like sort of a Betty White syndrome.

Where like I, you know, I love Betty White, but like there was that thing she had a few years ago.

Oh, Yader Ginsburg?

But after you reach a certain age, and I'm well aware of this, is that after you reach a certain age, people are like, oh, he's cute.

I haven't reached that yet.

Well, you've reached the page.

I'm well aware of it.

You haven't reached the age where people think you're cute, but you have passed Ruth Peter Ginsburg's age, I guess.

But it also is, I think you're right with the Betty White syndrome.

And I think also it's,

man, we've got to build her up and make her happy so she doesn't leave.

I think there's something to that, too.

Because I will tell you this, if she were to retire tomorrow, they would hate her more than anybody has ever been hated.

How dare you?

How dare you leave that?

Well, they did it to Kennedy.

They bludgeoned him for leaving.

They loved him for years because he was the quote-unquote conservative that kept siding with them.

Yeah.

He was the greatest guy in the world until he was gone.

And then he was the worst guy in the world.

The Ginsburg thing is so amazing because

there seems to be...

I mean, other than the speculation, I just can't figure out

what the reason for it all of a sudden is.

I think she's an interesting character in which she's, if you think about it, if you're a liberal, right?

Like the same way I love Clarence Thomas, right?

Clarence Thomas, because he's generally, he's the most conservative

person on the Supreme Court.

And at least, you know, depending on how you measure it, and those things are always tough to measure, but he's certainly one of the top one or two.

And he's a, you know, I think he does a great job on the Supreme Court.

And he, so he's really, so that part of it, if you're a liberal, you love Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

She never disappoints you.

She's always

on the liberal side.

She never never always, oh, wait, wow, this one.

She went the other way.

She's super predictable.

100% like, you know, basically Alexandria Casio-Cortez, add about 100 points to the IQ and put her in the Supreme Court, right?

Like, it's that sort of arrangement.

It does seem like that.

Of course, the left loves that, right?

I mean, you know, she's,

and, you know, that's part of it, I think.

Another part of it is, you know, just her physical sort of stature, right?

Like, she's this kind of

tiny, like, old lady

who's just still a powerhouse, you know, like and I think that's one of the things they like about you know Betty White.

That's how Betty White had to resurgence into some way.

In the past, we heard how much what a relationship she had with Scalia and how he loved her and they loved to battle.

So she's had that kind of bit of a little bit of love with that.

But can you imagine?

And she's fought for women's rights, women's rights,

for all the causes that are popular.

But I mean, think about this from a news organization standpoint.

This is essentially a pro-Ruth Bader Ginsburg propaganda piece.

She, you know, it's basically trying to turn her into a cult hero, which has sort of happened, and this is on that, uh, on that level.

Should CNN be airing that?

I mean, to me, the answer is no.

Even the same thing with, you know, with Scalia, right?

Like, Scalia passes away.

Should you make a documentary or air a documentary that's a one-sided propaganda piece about Anton and Scalia if you're a news organization?

Probably not, right?

I mean, if you're going to do the thing about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, you probably also have to do it for Antonin Scalia if you want to even attempt to look fair.

Well, the good thing is that she believes in the United States and the Constitution.

And that's the thing that

in the trailer is the first time.

There's nothing better.

Yeah, absolutely.

We saw that.

The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S.

Constitution.

Nor does the word freedom.

Your honor.

Booyah!

Oh, did she

nail him?

Wow.

That's supposedly based on a true incident, I guess, from her past, which was

in her 30s and her 20s.

I don't know.

But the Supreme Court justice leans in and says, the word woman doesn't appear even once in the U.S.

Constitution.

Nor does the word freedom.

Your Honor.

Except for, well, it does.

But other than that, don't worry about the fact.

I mean,

it's not in our Constitution, though, right?

I mean, it's like

a goal to the first amendment before you find the word freedom.

So it's pretty tough.

I mean, it's tough to find.

Yeah.

And she is the one who famously, as Jeffy was kind of just pointing out there,

said that South Africa's constitution was

South Africa is the one she should focus on.

And Canada, because it was written in 1982.

Ours is too old.

But, for instance,

in South Africa,

what does that analysis mean for her?

You know, it's like, I love this idea that the oldest person on the Supreme Court can tell us it's, you know, the Constitution's too old.

Should we start throwing out Supreme Court justices at 235, too?

One of the reasons that she really liked the Constitution from South Africa.

Well, they came up with a really incredible concept of an independent judiciary.

Yeah, who would have thought of that?

Why the hell didn't we think of that?

Oh, wait.

An independent judiciary.

What if we had, wait, what if we had an independent judiciary, an independent legislative branch, and you couple that with an independent executive branch?

They're all separate.

And co-equal.

What would happen?

I mean, I can't even think what kind of government you'd have then.

It's like, what do you mean?

They came up with...

We did that 240 years ago.

What are you talking about?

Have you seen our Constitution, Ruth?

Have you read it?

Certainly by her rulings, I don't think she's read it.

And by this little trailer, I don't think she's read it.

You're telling us that the word of freedom is not in it?

And I love the way she pauses there because it's so powerful.

What's she saying?

It's so powerful.

The first time I heard it, I thought she was saying, no, the word woman isn't in there, but the word freedom is.

No.

Listen to this carefully.

The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S.

Constitution.

You could tell he's a bit of a word woof.

You can tell.

Listen to the

voice.

Almost like Christian Bales, Batman.

The word wooba.

It's almost like he's vomiting the word woman.

It's so offensive to him.

The word woman.

Listen to this.

The word woman does not appear even once in the U.S.

Constitution.

Nor does the word freedom.

Yeah, nor does the word freedom.

Nor does.

Your honor.

Whoa.

Oh, my.

Ooh, that's powerful.

Ooh, that's just

stinging indictment there.

Freedom of speech.

The point is that the U.S.

Constitution is flawed.

And,

you know, the word woman's not in it.

Neither is the word freedom.

Neither do we have, I guess, an independent judiciary that's set apart.

I mean, it's ridiculous.

Was she arguing for a new amendment to the Constitution at this point?

In this particular?

I don't know.

The only thing you can maybe think of, and off the top of of my head, I can't, I don't know, but she's just saying that she's not concluding the amendments.

Like, we had to amend the Constitution to get freedom in it.

Well, is that what she's trying to say?

If you would have said

it doesn't appear until the amendments, that's one thing.

Because the Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution.

Right, I know.

But what I'm saying is if she's arguing for, which I would maybe suspect, the Equal Rights Amendment,

maybe she's saying we have to add in the word woman

here with another amendment.

I don't know.

Again, I'm giving her too much of a break here.

Way too much.

And we always do that.

They never do that for us.

No, of course, never.

Never.

I'm just trying to understand.

I feel like that's valuable to at least a team.

Trying to understand it.

But I can't wait till Christmas Day when this power.

Oh, I'm taking the family.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, man.

Before we open presents, we're headed to.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

I've already got the wine ready to go, open up, take a drink, sip of wine, go to the movies, and just celebrate Roosteria and go for it.

And Ruth Better Ginsburg is about the size of my Elf on a Shelf, too.

So it kind of fits.

And Chris does look like Elf on the Shelf.

She's so tiny.

Tiny but powerful.

Tiny but powerful.

Powerful.

Atrobendo.

It's kind of like tiny, you know, like

the same way people think about small dogs.

We're like, you know, there's really, it's really difficult for a small dog to be ugly, even though, like, I have pugs and pugs are absolutely ugly, but people think they're cute because they're small.

Yes.

Right.

They're small.

And not Jeffy doesn't, but of course, Jeffy, you know, look at Jeffy.

But

there's that thing where I think when you're small and powerful, it gives you that, like,

there's some cool part of that that people like.

Yeah.

And I think that's the main part because there's no reason.

Like, you could easily love Breyer, who's also old and also super liberal.

Right.

Like, there's, you know,

I mean, you could go and praise Soda Mayor, who in some measures is to the left of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and is younger and Hispanic.

You could do that if you wanted to as well.

But they're picking Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I think, because of just physical qualities, which again, they say you should never do.

But she's tiny and she's old and she's cute and

you want to give her a little hug and maybe pet her.

Right.

You know, and it's like, you want to help her up and walk with her.

Yeah, you want to just give her a big hug.

She's Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

I don't necessarily.

Personally, I want the new Ruth on a shelf now.

Ruth on a shelf is a a solid product.

We could easily get some of those.

Yes.

You feel like your house might be haunted with it, though.

I don't think I want to come out in the middle of the night and that thing's just scampering across the ground somehow.

That happened.

I think it could happen.

A Ruth on a shelf easily comes alive.

That'd be tremendous.

And that I don't want.

No, it's scary.

That's a frightening thought.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

The Me Too movement continues to swim along quite nicely.

And,

you know, make sure that people don't work.

And that's fine if people have actually committed egregious

crimes.

I mean, like one of the founders, Asia Argento, who is apparently now getting thrown out of her jobs,

which is interesting.

That's an interesting development.

It is interesting.

Yeah.

You know,

I don't know how to handle this stuff because when you have a legal system, right?

What you do is in advance of the trial, you have laws on the books, and then people know what those laws are.

And then when you go in and you have a trial and you're found guilty, there on the books is a range of punishment, which would be

applied to the person who committed the crime.

So you're saying

after you have, say, I don't know, presented evidence and a jury has perhaps said that there's enough evidence to say, yes, you're guilty.

And then after that, there's some consequences.

Yes, that is what I would say.

Before that, what happens?

Because

you're a bad person.

Okay.

So just the accusation is enough to say you're a bad person.

You need to get out of your job.

And that seems to be where we are now.

So you feel the punishment right away.

You lose all of your jobs.

You lose your company.

You lose everything, whether you did it or not.

And again, it is certainly just for people like, let's say, Harvey Weinstein, who did a lot of terrible things.

However,

on that same front, you should actually

be convicted of a crime before the punishment gets associated with you.

And we've jumped the gun on that one, and we now believe the person should get punished immediately.

And with someone like Weinstein, it's easy.

We all suspect that he really did all these things, and it seems overwhelmingly, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence, including his own words on tape, that indicate that.

So, you know, no one really cares on that one.

But when it comes to someone like Louis C.K.

is a good example of this, Louis C.K.

was part of the Me Too movement.

And if you remember the story.

Basically, he did things to himself in front of women.

After he asked them if it was okay.

Yeah, awkward.

Right?

I mean, as you would expect from Louis C.K., very awkward.

Yeah.

Hey, can I do this in front of you?

Well, one of the stories even was that one girl remembered that he asked, and I said no, and so it didn't happen.

So it happened.

Right, yeah.

So she said no.

So amazingly.

And he didn't do anything.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

Now the other

person said yes, and now they're still complaining about it.

Right.

Well, if you didn't want him to do that, then you should have said no.

Right.

And then if he continued, you'd have a case.

Yes.

If he does.

Now, what we have.

From From my understanding is that there's no allegation that he ever did that against their will.

Yeah, I don't know.

Is that true?

I don't know if any of them have said that.

I don't remember any of them saying that.

I mean, it's creepy what he was doing.

Yes.

Very creepy.

But he did ask for permission, and seemingly permission was granted.

Yeah, or I think one of there was one of the things that I was saying.

And we were saying that they didn't say anything.

They didn't say anything, and they just kind of laughed at him.

And he said, I'm going to take my clothes off now, okay?

And they kind of went with him uncomfortably and then stayed.

Right,

because he takes his clothes clothes off and they're so upset they don't leave.

Well,

their argument here.

He's a comedian.

He's a comedian and he's powerful and famous.

Now, this is some of these.

Comedians have all power over people because I wasn't aware of this up until this point.

Well, comedians have this

extraordinary power over people.

How are you still working?

I don't know.

Well, I guess you could argue.

I mean, again, I think their argument is poor here.

But their argument is he does have power in the world of being a comedian, and these were people who were trying to rise the, like, you know, like like Jerry Seinfeld certainly has some impact at the time.

He was doing a TV show, he was doing other stuff.

He had deals with Netflix, those are all gone.

But at the time, he did.

So, right, so he did have some kind of power, right?

Like, you have power, like, you know, if would you say, you know, uh, Jerry Seinfeld has could have an influence on a young comedian's career.

Yeah, I mean, the answer to that is, of course, the answer is yes.

All younger comedians did he do this in front of?

I know at least a few of them were.

You know,

there was one who said

that, I mean, even talk about

a weak allegation.

The allegation,

again, these are just such weird topics.

The allegation was that

Louis C.K.

got on the phone with a woman,

and the woman

during the call suspected

believed.

He never said he was

suspected that he was masturbating while on the phone with her.

Oh, my gosh.

Now, there was no confirmation of that, but that's what she thought was going on.

And that was a Me Too allegation.

And he was so powerful that she could not hang up?

I guess so.

Okay, there we go.

I mean,

let's be honest.

He did not ask for permission.

Well, he's on the phone.

He didn't say he was doing it either.

No, she just believed it.

She just believed it.

Right.

So the idea is, okay, well, Louis C.K.

could then go to some manager.

Anybody could say that.

Anybody who's been on the phone with that guy could say, yeah, I believed he was pleasuring himself when we're on the phone, and I'm really offended by that.

And

I think for all of my stress, I need like three and a half million dollars from this guy.

No, you know what?

No, I don't want to seem greedy.

Two million.

So their argument is, okay, well, he could behind the scenes say, you know what, I just don't like her work.

I don't like, I don't think she's a good comedian, and then she might not advance in her career.

Of course, a lot of times comedians will say, you know, anybody will say that if they feel, a lot of people feel inaccurately that others have thwarted their careers, right?

A lot of people say, oh, well, this person's keeping me down.

It's a very human instinct to believe that.

Unless you have real evidence of someone doing it, it's hard

to take anything from it.

So, and there was very little of that with Louis C.K.

I think one person, I think, may have said that, if I remember correctly.

And I was headed in the opposite direction.

I think a few of them were saying that

it seemed like

he did things to help them.

Right.

Like it was awkward.

And because of the awkward situation, he actually tried to assist them in their career.

So Louis C.K., for the first time now, has come out and done a comedy set

in New York.

Was it the

Comedy Cellar?

Was it the Comedy Cellar?

It was one of those smaller clubs.

115 people were there not knowing he was coming.

So, you know, and Comedy Cellar in Carolines and New York, a few clubs like that are famous for

big-time comedians popping out out of nowhere.

You're just there for a normal show.

Practice their new set.

Practice their new set, try out some new material, and then leave.

So out of nowhere, Louis C.K.

comes out for his first public appearance, does a normal comedy, does not mention ovation.

Standing ovation before he even starts, does not mention the scandals at all, just does his little routine, tries some stuff out, and leaves.

There was apparently one call from a patron of the concert, of the appearance, said, I wish I would have known in advance so I could have made the decision whether I wanted to come or not.

Which, you know, I guess I can understand, though I bet they would have no trouble filling the the room.

Yes.

And I just think this is the issue when you don't use the justice system.

There's no punishment that has been allocated already.

Like we saw Glenn Thrush from the, it was a New York Times, and he's been at Politico and a bunch of different things, you know, left-wing sort of White House-type reporter who also got a Me Too allegation against him.

The allegation against him was that after late-night parties, he would often hit on younger employees

know, of the papers he was working for.

And again, he was a, these are people who want to get into journalism.

He's an important, powerful journalist.

And there was no accusation that he actually forced anyone to do anything.

The accusation was that he should have known better to not fraternize with the younger workers.

So,

and what happened with him is he's back working.

You know, he did not seem to have, he did lose, he was suspended, I think, for a while, but I think he's back now working.

But there's no set punishments because there's no legal system here, right?

We've decided to go around the legal system.

Right.

And we've decided that these things should be educated in our own minds.

What do we think Louis C.K.

did?

What do we think Glenn Thrush did?

What do we think, you know,

Kevin Spacey did?

And we will allocate those as it comes.

Was it Jeffrey Tambour?

had a Me Too allocation.

He seems to have felt no repercussions about it at all.

After this, he was in the death of Stalin.

He, you know, he was,

you know, people, I don't know, do people just believe him?

Because he was, you know, because he's on the right side of things.

Possible.

Yeah.

You know, maybe it doesn't seem to be a real obvious pattern here.

Is it wrong for Louis C.K.

to now be able to come back and talk about the things that he thinks are funny in front of people?

Well, I mean, I think the answer to that is if people don't show up, he should probably stop doing it.

If people aren't aren't interested in hearing what he wants to say, then he can't be a stand-up comedian anymore because people don't want to hear him.

And that is

a market-based job.

If people like your comedy, they come and you get to do it for a living.

If they don't and you suck and they don't come, then you don't.

So

the outrage here that we

have to allow,

you know, we have to make sure that he never gets in front of people again and he has to be punished till the end of time

is kind of a, it's kind of a crazy instinct.

You know, I don't know.

It's almost as if we're addicted to outrage.

Is this your job this week?

This is Jeffy.

No, we've come up with it with a useful

job for Jeffy.

I've been looking at the stupid poster the whole time right across from me for the addicted to outrage.

For those of you listening on radio, that's all I see.

Yeah.

I look at Stu, I see this glut back.

Well, it is coming out soon, so you can buy that.

But I guess that's in some ways is tied to that, right?

I mean,

we all act as if we're perfect, and we all act as if we've never made a mistake, and we all act as if we can just slam everybody who has had their public issues.

When in reality, like there has to be, and this is, I think, part of the job of people who really support the Me Too movement and think its work is important, and a lot of it is, that

you have to take a stand as someone in the Me Too movement to say this particular claim is bullcrap.

This particular claim doesn't rise to the level of what we're talking about.

You know, the fact that there's a statement made by someone that's a little bit sexualized, or I mean, who was the guy?

Was it Amazon?

I think.

Was it the Amazon guy who was at a party?

He was one of the heads of Amazon Development, I think, or I think it was Amazon, not Netflix, but it was one of the big streaming providers.

And he went to a party and he said some offensive things to a woman at a party.

He was hitting on her.

And that was, I think, the only allegation that he was inappropriate in in conversation at a drunken Christmas party.

And, like, that is something, you know, if you look back at

the office, the show, things like that happened all the time.

And it's not appropriate, but like that person would just have, people would think he's a dirtbag, or people would say, do you believe he did this once?

But now he doesn't seem to do that anymore.

And it would kind of blow over.

And now we have to make sure they're fired.

We have to make sure they pay some public payments.

And he was.

And he did wide up

and resigned.

I think he resigned under pressure is what actually happens.

I mean, who among us haven't been drunk at a Christmas party and started

calling it quite a few of us.

Who among us?

Quite a few.

Quite a few of us.

Certainly Jeffy would.

If these standards were

around in the 1830s when Jeffy was coming of age, I can't even imagine what would have happened to him.

But look, there is.

There should be some level.

Most,

I don't know what the percentage is, but I bet there's half of people wind up meeting their significant other at work.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean, I'm guessing that's a good idea.

Probably a high percentage, probably a high percentage, right?

I mean, you have, or and then if you want to add in people who are at bars that have been drinking, you're even higher, right?

I mean, like, you

that that shouldn't mean if you, if you do something inappropriate, and many women made this argument around the Me Too

point when that was really happening, is that you know,

that's part of what I want.

Like, I want there to be some available level of sexuality that that is that is able to be expressed by someone I'm trying to court.

Mm-hmm.

If not, I mean, you know, there has to be some.

Well, we have to realize that no means no, right?

A hundred percent.

So when when

you know when you start bashing Louis C.K., remember he asked.

Right.

He asked.

And that's the thing.

It's gone from no means no to don't ask.

Yeah.

Yeah, it has.

And, you know, that is.

Don't flirt.

Don't flirt.

Don't ask.

Don't show interest.

Don't look.

Don't certainly don't touch.

So, how do men and women ever

get together again?

You know, to ask fundamentally, how does the species continue?

Yeah.

At some point,

in every relationship, you go in for your first kiss.

Rarely are you saying, hey, do you mind?

Would you mind signing this contract that allows me to, for my lips to touch yours?

Like, that's not how it happens.

You know, and there are people who misjudge it, right?

Like, I mean, I've always been on the case of being such a wuss that you wait way too long and eventually it's so obvious that it's time to go for it.

That's, that's what I waited till because, you know, I'm a loser.

But, you know, not everybody's that way.

Sometimes people call it wrong.

Yeah.

You know, sometimes, and that shouldn't be, that can be something where we say, hey, you know, that's inappropriate at this place.

Hey, don't do that anymore.

No, I'm not interested.

Thank you.

Then the person absolutely needs to stop.

But, you know,

there has to be some room for men and women and maybe men and men and women and women to do the little dance.

Yeah.

That is part of it.

That's not Harvey Weinstein, but it is part of it.

This

is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Alex Jones.

was caught in a little bit of a just a little kind of a sticky wicket if you will a bit of of a moment.

Yeah, he was showing how to navigate on his website on Infowars.

There does seem to be a high percentage of their programming.

A lot of it is just how do you get to the male vitality formula.

Because that's how he makes all his money.

So, yeah, they spend some time with that.

So he's showing how to navigate on his smartphone, and then he taps it and it goes back to the original screen that had all of his tabs up there.

Yeah, it brings like, you, where you see like nine tabs on the screen at the same time.

one of the

one of the tabs was a

transsexual porn site

and uh it could happen to anybody it could have well anybody who's surfing for trans porn yes

for those of us who don't necessarily frequent those sites can't happen to you okay

so i thought okay well maybe somebody just went in there and here's what he's going to say even if it's not the case somebody photoshopped that into his phone right

because you hold your time when there's no evidence of it why not go with that right defense somebody in the deep state photoshopped that

and that's not what he said uh which is fascinating to me here's here's instead how he explained his his uh little trans porn site um and also um what about the trans porn on your phone alef or you were going to talk about that say that again say that again trans porn on your phone that's all they keep talking about and you know i saw a couple news articles about that it's ridiculous i was like looking up some reporter we're trying to hire today and punched in some number that popped up porn on my phone everybody's had porn pop on their phones hundreds of times so i'm sitting there with a phone on air showing it to everybody because i couldn't get a url up in the studio and then like something pops up and like oh my god and i looked at it wasn't the news blurted out because there was nothing there they blurt it to then say something was there and then you went to it with some porn menu i probably had porn menus pop up 500 times on my phone.

So I appreciate your call.

You're surfing them.

It's insane, ladies and gentlemen.

There's two types of people, people that look at porn and people that lie about it.

But I wasn't looking at porn on my phone.

I don't take phones on air that I look at porn on.

And so I saw all that.

I didn't respond to it.

I mean, if I respond to happy attacks on me,

but then it'll look ridiculous.

But I'll say this.

The Amazon ads, the Viagra ads, the weird non-plastic bag ads are taking my iPhone over.

iPhones didn't used to be that bad like androids it's a great point there with the plastic bag ban ads that are taking over sideways

he does seem to be admitting that he looks at porn

with that phone like you know alex jones looking at porn or trans porn is absolutely not the worst thing about him like i know that's probably one of his better characteristics so i don't know why that would be a big deal it just you know the trans community thought it was unusual because he bashes trans people so much yeah and every time there's a trans story he's you know he's raving raving about it, ranting about it.

And so it's interesting that he's actually looking at trans porn when he's ranting about trans people.

The trans site was excited.

The trans site was very happy.

Very happy about it.

Yeah.

Yes.

I mean,

this isn't the show that he's fascinating.

Maybe not as transphobic as you once thought.

There you go.

And that's probably what he should say.

There was a

years ago, there was a

morning show host in

Texas City that I once lived in

who got into a traffic accident while leaving a

gay bar at two in the morning and then left the scene and went home or whatever.

And so it was kind of an issue.

And then so

there's a lot of, you know, he's a conservative talk show host.

And so people were wondering, what were you doing at a gay bar?

And he said, well, it shows you I'm not homophobic like they say I am, doesn't it?

That was his explanation.

So maybe that's a good one for us here.

It shows you I'm not transphobic.

Oh, man.

I'm telling you, Val, it does bode to one of the things that I live by is clear your search menus.

That's what you

clear your search menus.

Good safety tip.

Thank you, Jeff.

100%.

So does this happen to you?

Does porn pop up on your phone?

Hundreds of times?

500 times?

There seems to be a

real issue with your phone i will say no that doesn't happen especially on an iphone i mean iphone is like it's a closed ecosystem and when i'm looking for reporters i will say it has never popped up while looking for reporters to hire

is it possible that this particular trans porn star happens to have some journalism chops it is possible she's out covering the tough stories in between porn shoots i think that's

it is possible it's possible Absolutely.

It is.

It's possible.

Okay, let's grant him that.

I don't know how much Alex knows how tough it is to run a website and have people subscribe to it.

And that's what that

porn person was doing.

Because

he offered Alex a free pass.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Come on, Alex.

If you like it, I'm here for you.

I thought it was nice.

What an amazing world we live in.

It's just an an amazing world.

So she did actually respond to this.

Yeah.

And she offered a free pass.

That's pretty smart, actually.

Yeah, I know you thought you might as well jump in there.

I think the days of

the porn sites all popping up on your screen, which did happen in the past, are long gone.

Yeah, I think that doesn't happen as much anymore.

I do.

It certainly doesn't happen 500 times.

No, it does not.

But it does.

If you don't delete your search entry, if you you type in a word and it pops, then whatever you've been searching for and bringing up comes up as a reminder, hey, I'm still here for you.

Is that what happens?

It could happen.

That's what I understand.

It's possible.

Somebody has told you it's possible.

Yeah, they've had it happen to them.

And they related that story to you.

Can you imagine the amount of transporn being tweeted and sent to Alex Jones?

Oh, man.

Oh, my God.

I mean, it's got to be people are probably trolling him constantly with it now.

Hey, check out this new conspiracy theory I found, Link.

This guy's going to be opening up so much transport.

I guess what happens, you know?

Yes.

You know, whatever.

It's not like we had a high opinion of Alex Jones.

And we're like, wow.

This happened to a pastor while he was on his church.

That might be notable.

Like, the fact that Alex Jones does weird things is the least surprising thing.

I mean, it's good for him, right?

It's keeping him in the news other than being blocked from bringing people to his site.

And by the way,

let's say once again, we're absolutely opposed to Alex Jones being eliminated from

all of these sites, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.

Put his stuff back up and let the people decide.

If they want to see it, they see it.

Stop banning people because they have a different point of view.

Now, again, Facebook is a private business and so are all the rest.

So they can do that if they want.

It's just not the right thing to do.

Yeah.

The interesting part, I think, in this conversation, because I think we all agree that private businesses can do whatever they want.

And we all agree that Alex Jones is trash.

And we all agree that even though Alex Jones is trash, he should still be left

on the platform.

Yes.

The interesting addition to this is a lot of these social networks get protections from

legal action.

because they claim to be, hey, we're just user-generated content.

We're just a platform.

And so, like, for example, if someone were to post child porn on Twitter, Twitter doesn't, the employees of Twitter don't go to prison for child porn, right?

If someone

posts a terroristic threat on Twitter, they then don't,

you know, you can't go to Twitter for that.

Right, it's like that.

It's Twitter's fault, right?

Yeah.

And they get protections from these situations, as they should, by the way.

Copyright fraud is another one.

If someone posts a

copyrighted material,

then people, you know, if they do it and don't try to take it down, they can get in trouble for it.

But generally speaking, if someone just posts something,

they'll have a window there to take it down as soon as possible.

And it's not like they're going to put Twitter out of business for it.

But for that protection,

there's a responsibility.

Yeah, and their responsibility is to not control the content.

So they can't be a partisan entity.

Right.

They can't.

And they are.

And they kind of are.

And Ted Cruz has brought this argument up before.

So it's a good argument.

Yeah.

I mean, again, I still think they should be able to

handle their own content, but that, you know, maybe you don't get the same protections.

If you want to go that direction, you want to make it an all-liberal social media site, you should, in my view, should be able to create it.

If you want to create, you know, liberal.com and make it all people tweeting to each other about liberal things.

Except that's not what you agreed to

when you got these protections.

So you're going to have to change the rule if you want to do it that way.

Or we we just remove the protection and you're subject to prosecution when somebody does something on your site.

Which is it?

What do you want?

Yeah, and the easiest thing is just let people decide.

Stop.

And I think their supposed good motives and the motives of many people in Congress were like, hey, you got to take responsibility for what's on your site.

You need to take responsibility.

And they all went in front of Congress and said, you know what, we do.

This is on us.

We need to do better.

Not really.

No.

You really don't need to do better.

You don't need to manage.

You don't really need to do it.

People will click on the things they want to click on.

People will like the things that they want to like.

It's not your responsibility.

Not your responsibility to manipulate what people believe, even if they believe dumb things or inaccurate things.

Even in that circumstance, when there's other crimes that are committed, like threats and child porn and stuff, yeah, that's your responsibility to get it off as soon as possible.

Yeah.

But that's different than speech.

And you should just leave it up there.

So what?

Alex Jones wants to say something that's blatantly false over and over and over and over again.

So what?

We figured it out all these years.

Why can't we now?

I mean, it's not like I believed in the 9-11 theories to begin with.

So what's the big deal now?

It's not like I really thought that the Sandy Hook tragedy was a false flag operation.

I never believed that.

There might have been some people who did,

but I think any normal human being knew that that was an actual event that occurred and a real tragic one.

Yes, and I think we all can agree.

One thing that Alex was right on is that everything starts at the Gulf of Tonkin.

There's nothing that doesn't start there.

That's right.

That's where it all started.

It is.

That is where it all started.

The Gulf of Tonkin.

Exactly right.

You could go back a little bit further to the

Rothschilds.

Oh, you wanted to.

If you wanted to, but

we won't go there.

I don't want to go to high-level.

Only that's Alex's job.

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