'Uptight and Humorless'? - 7/25/18

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40 years ago, radical leftists wrote: It should be remembered that you can threaten the enemy and you'll get away with it.

You can insult and annoy him.

But the one thing that is unforgivable and that is certain to get to him is to react and laugh at him.

This causes irrational anger.

Oh.

Now, this tactic has been used for years.

And when we complain about it, you know, maybe they've gone too far, you know.

Yeah, like

taking pictures of, let's say, somebody standing there with the severed head of the president.

You know, maybe that is.

They say we're uptight and humorless.

Yet, as we have seen, they cannot handle absolute

any,

any

sarcasm any comedy they can handle zero of the same back into their face they seem utterly incapable of laughing at themselves Sasha Barrett Cohen can rib conservatives constantly and the leftists rejoice

But they are completely blind and silent about Cohen's wacky NPR character who perfectly encapsulates the hysteria of Trump derangement syndrome and whose own Twitter bio reads proud Democrat lecturer on gender studies at Reed College co-principal at Wildfields Poly Ed stay at home male mom

how come you haven't heard anything about that

because they don't find that funny the character's intro uh is I'm dr.

Nira Kane uh d'Angliaso or whatever I'm a cisgender white heterosexual male for for which I apologize.

You don't hear anybody talking about that, do you?

Another great example is CRTV's satirical video of socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Now, this is Ali Beth Stucley.

Now, Allie used to work here at the Blaze, and she was trying to find her own kind of niche, her own thing for a long time.

And when she started here, she started making satirical videos.

Not all of them were satirical.

Still, not all of them are satirical.

But she just made one that went to a million views.

I mean, within a day.

Oh my gosh.

Well, the left is very upset.

The video shows Ali using selectively edited comments from the Ocasio-Cortez disastrous PBS interview, where she made anti-Semitic remarks and framing them in such a manner where she appears to be answering questions from Stuckey.

This is the oldest trick in the book.

And especially when it's a very well-known interview.

This interview has been everywhere.

Everybody knows it.

Because she was a moron.

Well, I think the occupation is, I, well, I, um,

I'm not sure.

I'm not an expert.

So the segment intersplice questions from Stuckey, cleverly interspliced into selectively edited clips from cortez's recent interview with pbs we've all seen this done a bazillion times and the left's immediate response if you can believe it was outrage

outrage

shapiro said intensely stupid

This is what Allie does.

I've starred in them with her.

You're exactly right.

You're exactly right.

Here's a short clip of what she did.

Do you have any experience that qualifies you for this job?

I was growing up during the Clinton era,

and then basically when I was in middle school, 9-11 happened.

Do you have any knowledge whatsoever about how our political system works?

Yikes.

Does that make you a little bit nervous?

Put socialism into your own words.

Unprecedented concentration of wealth at the very top, tippy-top of the 1%.

Wow, I'm kind of surprised to hear you admit that.

It sounds like what's going on in socialist Venezuela.

What do you think about what's going on in Venezuela?

Just an increasing crisis of humanitarian condition.

And to me, it would just be completely unacceptable if that happened on our shores.

Okay.

And now this is exactly what Jon Stewart and

everyone has done for a million years.

Well, Cortez, who I can actually excuse because she's just using this to make money.

Okay.

She's just raising money on this.

So she responded, Republicans are so scared of me that they're faking videos and presenting them as real on Facebook because they can't deal with the reality anymore.

Okay.

All right.

So she doesn't get the joke, or, you know, maybe she does get it, but she's just trying to raise money.

Let me go back to one major point.

Why is it somehow fine for leftists to constantly make conservatives the butt of the joke and then instantly cry foul the moment the humor is reversed?

Obviously, it's important for people to listen to criticism and have their beliefs challenged occasionally.

But is it healthy for people to feel as though their worldview is inherently off limits?

While the other side is made to feel like their point of view is somehow or another evil?

One side feels constantly under attack.

They just stop listening.

They stop engaging with the other side.

And as a result, the divisions between left and right become more unshakable.

This is a really dangerous situation because ultimately, we need one another.

Democracy cannot work without balance of liberalism and conservatism.

And if two sides are unable to sit down together and have a laugh, let alone compromise and empathize and commit themselves to improvement, then we've got bigger problems than bias in comedy.

And there's nothing funny about that.

Well, maybe there is, but only if it's done really, really well.

It's Wednesday, July 25th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So, Stu, I would like to announce, and I know I'm early, but the death

of the left.

I think

they are overplaying their hands.

They're knocking themselves out in ways they don't even understand.

If you're going to declare the death of a political movement, Glenn, you're going to need to give us some supporting evidence.

Because, I mean, I don't know, freaking out over

an interview where you edit together clips to make it into something funny is only something that's been going on for at least as long as I've been alive.

I remember weird Al Yankovic doing it on Al TV every time he released an album.

Oh, but Ali's not known for doing that.

Well, unless you've been watching her.

Yeah, first of all, unless you've been.

Oh, gosh, this one's setting me off.

Okay.

Allie was on the show, on our network.

She did videos, not exactly like this, but very similar to this, in which she'd like mock characters.

This is something that she does all the time.

The Washington Post releases a story about this supposed controversy.

And first of all, hold on just a second.

Could I have the jingle, please?

I think this deserves, this story deserves addicted to outrage.

Addicted to outrage.

Yes.

Go ahead.

So here's the Washington Post.

Great example of it.

Yes.

Because none of these people are actually outraged by this.

None of them.

They're just doing it for clicks and fun.

This is what they describe the interview.

They say, but the video did not depict a real interview, despite its caption.

Allie grills congressional hopeful of progressive it girl or progressive it girl Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

I'm glad first of all that the Washington Post has told us now for sure that progressivism is synonymous with socialist.

I'm certainly finding

but this is this is Allie's caption here

and a knowledge of government or lack thereof.

Instead uses heavily edited footage from an interview of Ocasio-Cortez.

Now, first of all, the Ocasio-Cortez interview on PBS has been a giant news story for a week.

Yes.

Everybody knew the footage.

Everybody had seen the footage.

Secondly, the backgrounds don't match.

Where Allie's sitting, she has a white background, but it's a different background for where Ocasio-Cortez is sitting.

Anybody who is looking at it would know immediately.

Thirdly,

you don't label satire satire.

If you can help it, you try not to.

The reason for that is

because

you give away the joke.

Did you, hang on just a second.

Did you read the Washington Post?

I am.

That's where I'm getting this.

You have to label it.

And you know that every satire you have ever seen is always labeled.

Everything.

The Colbert report.

What does it say before that show even started?

Warning, satire approaching.

Yes.

That's true.

I remember that.

I mean, they always label satire.

Yeah, you don't do that unless you have to.

Beyond that, she actually did label it satire.

Now, they're talking about when she updated the caption.

They updated the caption to say this is satire.

They actually did it.

But she put a winking emoji in the middle of her headline.

Now, if you are conducting a serious interview with an up-and-coming congressional candidate, do you put a winking emoji in the description of your interview?

No.

It was blatantly obvious what it was.

Listen to this, though.

After an outcry, the Facebook page for Stucky's show, where the social media giant is given an informal,

what is it, infrastructure?

Well, I can't ever say that word.

Given under the blue check mark, right?

Was updated to note that the video was satire and include a reference to the original PBS show.

But the fact that the video traveled so widely and for some, apparently believably, Now, again, like they're not saying they believed it.

They're saying for some, apparently believably.

what is their evidence for this?

Who knows?

They go on to give you a couple of random people from Facebook to say, Look, one person said they believed it.

It's like

it's Facebook.

One person says everything.

One person is talking in gibberish right now.

One person has an entire page dedicated to pig Latin.

Like,

one person believes everything.

But, like, the fact that that video traveled so widely, again, it has over a million, had over a million views.

The video did very well, right?

Looking at some of the previous videos from Allie, here's the one at the top of her page, which is a video entitled,

Here it is, Human Dignity Starts in the Womb.

That video has 3.15 million views, more than double the amount that the Washington Post is talking about.

When you go down to the previous video before that, it's Allie.

Let's see, what was this?

Allie's sitting in her car with no production value.

She's sitting in her car, and the headline is, Christ-like confidence is greater than self-love.

And she is, it's a three-minute video of her sitting in her car that has 762,000 views.

This is very much in the mainstream of where an Allie Stuckey video would perform, right?

Well, she does well on the internet.

And it's like, they sit here and they hammer her as if she has never done anything like this before.

That's one of their arguments because people will say, well, what about Jon Stewart?

He's done this stuff.

You know, Saturday Night Live's done this stuff.

Every weird Allie Genkovic's done all these things.

Well, Allie's not known for that.

Well, first of all, she's, what, 25 years old?

Yeah.

She's a new media personality.

And if you have been around her or following her, she used to work.

She is known for this.

Yes, she's just not well known because she's at the beginning of her career.

Right.

Like the fact that you don't know what she does doesn't mean that her millions of fans don't know that.

They do know it.

That's why they're there.

You're just jumping into this because you're trying to make up an outrage story that you don't actually have any foundation to.

And the fact that they would all play along, because you're right, Elcasio-Cortez, you know, she's going to tweet about it because she wants to raise money and look like the victim so she can, you know, of course.

But the fact that so many media members jump onto this and act as if they also can't tell whether this is real or not is the big problem.

Hold on just a second.

I just have some breaking news here.

Okay.

On something that we have just discovered that Donald Trump has

said, and it is stunning, Stu.

We're going to get into this next.

Uh-oh.

What is it?

Well, I'm very nervous.

Well, you should be.

Addicted to outrage.

And you might even be outraged by it.

We'll get into that next.

It has nothing to do with Allie's video.

This is the real deal.

Okay.

And

you're going to be shocked.

I can't wait to hear you.

You're going to be shocked.

This is going to be important, I'm sure.

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Glenn Beck addicted to outrage

holy cow i am i'm very

i'm very concerned i'm really upset i don't know if if this is real or not.

I just found this.

Another Cohen tape.

I just, no, no, no.

I just tweeted this.

I just tweeted this.

I don't know if the source is Ali Stuckey or this seems highly edited, but I'm not sure.

It doesn't seem like something the president would do, and it's not marked parody.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

So, could you just play this, please, Sarah?

She was more like a beauty queen from a movie scene.

I said I'm confused.

What do you mean?

I wouldn't want to be able to do it.

That should be around time for the full production of this song.

The backgrounds, his tie, his positions,

the microphone,

and everything changes almost every word, but I'm not sure if...

This is downright scary as hell.

Everyone, please watch this video.

It's revealing.

How did this person get elected to be president of the United States?

The new face of the Republicans.

By the way, those are all the, that's the evidence that people believe the Alley Stuckey video is the three comments I just read to you.

One person said, downright scary as hell.

Another said,

everyone, please watch this video.

It's revealing.

Now, do they have any evidence that those comments are real?

Did they go through and find out for sure if the person really felt it was downright scary as hell?

Or were they joking about the comment?

Because that's how I would comment.

Well, it's a marked parody is there is the comment marked parody yes that's that's what i think we need to know if it wasn't marked parody we don't know if it was parody and but we can assume it wasn't and we must immediately go for the worst possible outcome if it involves a democrat did you hear this interview with bruce springsteen No.

Yeah, this is, I mean, this is a bizarre interview, and it's downright scary as hell, Glenn.

Listen to this.

Okay, okay, well, let's get on with the questions.

I hear you have a problem with your pants falling down on stage.

What's wrong with them?

They're pretty loose.

Say, a couple minutes ago, I saw you using a nutcracker to open a bottle of beer.

How come?

I don't know.

You know, it just seemed like a good opener, you know.

Yeah.

Okay, name as many numbers as you can between 7 and 12.

8, 9, 10, you know, 11.

Bruce, say something incomprehensible.

Yeah, it's something.

I guess my

You know I always I always I probably took took the whole thing

Okay, okay, that's enough.

Wow, wow, wow Bruce brings

drugs it seems

old.

It does seem old.

It almost seems like it's from L TV.

Which is when weird Al Yankovic took over MTV every day.

Who's this Weird Al Yankovic?

He's a serious interviewer that never does parody glasses.

Wow, I didn't know that.

It's very, it's very controversial.

Okay, so this is something brand new.

Brand new, I'm sure.

And it seems like Bruce Springsteen, while looking much younger, must be on some sort of drugs.

He's obviously incompetent.

We could say that we don't know for sure, but just based on this video, Bruce Springsteen may be close to an overdose.

I'll say this: it's downright scary as hell, said me.

Said who?

Said me?

Said me.

Okay.

Everyone, watch this video.

It's revealing.

It is revealing.

How does this get person get to sell albums and go on stage?

I have no idea.

At least he knows how to count.

At least we can, we know that.

We know he can count.

But it's very disturbing.

I mean, again, it's this addicted to outrage moment where they're faking that they are upset about this.

It's not real.

They are not upset about it.

They knew it was parody from the beginning.

It's not a real story, but they're doing it anyway, and that is a massive problem.

Okay, a lot to discuss discuss today, including the tapes from Cohn and Trump.

Coming up.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Addicted to outrage.

Bill, since everything that's happened, I kind of been laying low.

Oh, if you want to lay low, television is the best place to do that.

Now, I want to give you a chance to clear up some things.

You gave an interview with Billy Bush, where you claimed that while you were at a gas station in Rio, a gun gun was put to your forehead and cocked, and you were robbed.

Now you're saying that didn't happen?

That didn't happen and that's why I overexaggerated that part.

That part.

Okay, here's the thing.

That part is really the whole part.

Without a gun cocked at your forehead, it's really just a story about some guys urinating on a gas station.

How could you get that so wrong?

I was intoxicated.

Okay.

But on Sunday, when you told that story to Billy Bush, it was hours after the incident.

I was still intoxicated.

Okay.

But then on Wednesday, you told Matt Lauer again that you were robbed.

That was another three days later.

I was very intoxicated.

This seems highly edited.

I don't know if Alley Stuckey had anything to do with this, but this seems highly edited here.

It was not Mark satire, Gladys.

It was not Mark's satire.

I don't even know if it's

I choose to believe it and say it's downright scary as hell.

Right.

Well, people should listen to this because I think it's quite revealing.

It is.

So, anyway,

we have Austin Peterson.

He's a U.S.

Senate candidate in Missouri,

and his Senate race is happening, what, August?

Are you there, Austin?

Yeah, good morning, guys.

This is August 7th.

August 7th, okay.

And you are, you're, you're, you're, I guess, fundraising with a raffle for a

a a

3D printer that will print a gun.

Yeah, it's called a Ghost Gunner 2.

It's a milling machine.

It allows you to make an unserialized firearm.

Every American has the right to manufacture at least one firearm that doesn't contain a serial number.

So last week, there was a court decision that made it so that it was legal for us to use not only our Second Amendment rights, but our First Amendment rights to distribute machines like this.

And it's a way for me to explain to people and show people that I am the strongest Second Amendment candidate in the whole country.

And

it's definitely got liberals, got the hair up on the back of their necks.

They're coming for me.

I have a feeling that no one could outdo the guy who is saying you can make a gun without a serial number.

It'd be hard to find somebody.

Well, it's really important because the guy that I'm running against, the Republican, who's sort of like the Mitch McConnell pick in this this race,

the first thing that he did when he announced he was running was come out in favor of gun control.

Actually, he's technically to the left of the Obama administration when it comes to firearms controls because he wants to use executive orders to ban firearms accessories, which even Obama said he didn't have the authority to do.

And, you know, we have some polls that show that if enough Republicans in Missouri know that Josh Hawley is weak on the Second Amendment, that we beat him.

So I'm trying to get the message out, and what better way to do it than let people make their own ghost guns?

Well,

so.

I'll say, I'm concerned, though.

I saw a recent press conference with one, the Honorable Charles Schumer, and he was very clear that any idea of a 3D printed gun was very dangerous to our society.

And you are sitting here saying the opposite.

I don't understand.

Yeah, well,

Chuck Schumer is no friend of the Second Amendment.

He's a big fan of the type of Dianne Feinstein gun bills that came out in 2013, which coincidentally the Democrat I'm running against, Claire McCaskill, is a big supporter of.

But we usually don't expect to see Republicans in red states like this one coming out in favor of gun control too.

It almost seems like the Democrats want to take all of our guns, and some Republicans want to take our guns just a little bit.

I'm trying to stop playing defense on the Second Amendment.

I want to go on the offense.

I think we need to stop fighting over how many of our rights we're going to take away and turn the conversation towards how we can expand our Second Amendment rights.

That's what I'm fighting for, and those are the principles I'll carry with me into the Senate next year.

So

the raffle ticket, how can you

buy it over state lines?

Well, it's free, so it's basically just a giveaway.

We couldn't do a raffle because of the campaign finance laws.

So all you have to do is go to austinpeterson.com slash ghost underscore gunner, and you can register for free, and hopefully you'll be able to win your own ghost gun machine.

Right, okay.

And I suppose you could make a donation there as well.

You absolutely could.

And we've built a grassroots army.

We're not funded by the establishment in D.C.

Thousands of regular people, your listeners, have joined us.

40 bucks at a time.

We've raised almost 600 grand.

You know what's interesting, Glenn, is that despite all the money and the endorsements that my Republican primary opponent has had, I'm the only Republican who's running against Claire McCaskill in the double digits.

You know, Trump won this state by 19 points, and I'm the only Republican who beats her by 16 points if the election were held today.

The guy that everybody's trying to prop up in this race right now is either within the margin of error or he's losing to her, which is probably why they're so desperate and they're kind of

doing a whole Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton thing here.

Remember when they changed the rules to favor Hillary?

Well, the Republican Party is doing that here for me.

I feel sometimes like the Republicans would rather lose with someone that they can control than win with someone like myself who they cannot control.

Oh, I believe that.

Absolutely.

So, so, Austin,

because if people don't know you, you're obviously a deep libertarian,

but you're not one of these

crazy libertarians that

somehow or another is also for universal health care and everything else.

No, no, I'm not a what is Aleppo bake the cake libertarian.

I'm a pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-constitutional, constitutional conservative.

I mean,

one of the main reasons why I'm running, Glenn, is because I want to give some backup to people like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and Mike Lee.

Those are the people that I want to join in the U.S.

Senate next year.

That's why I'm doing this, to not only represent the people of Missouri, but to represent the cause of liberty.

And, you know, when you've got the Republican establishment doing everything they can to stop you and the Democratic establishment doing the same, you know you're probably on the right side of history.

It's just a question of in two weeks, can we get enough votes on August 7th to beat the Mitch McConnell pick in this race, which is why I am legally obligated to ask you, Glenn Beck, for your endorsement.

Would you like to give me that today?

You know, I tell you, Austin, no.

No endorsement.

I've learned an important lesson.

I know.

You got to.

Never.

You should be asking him.

I got kicked around in 2016, Glenn, but I have to ask.

Don't ask, don't get.

Yeah, no, no, no.

I appreciate that.

But I think what Stu was just going to say is you should ask for me to hate you.

Yeah, endorse the other guy.

Then you'd have a a great chance.

Hey, speaking of endorsements, Austin, I saw Donald Trump yesterday appear with your opponent in the primary, and he did not seem to be at all familiar with who he was.

I have to be honest with him.

It doesn't seem like he actually has deep knowledge of this race by any means, but he did seemingly endorse your opponent.

And we saw what happened in Georgia last night.

I mean, that could be very powerful.

How are you going to fight back against that?

Yeah, well, the last time that the president interfered in the primary, Alabama elected a Democrat.

The president of the United States and the vice president are doing everything they can to kind of prop up this guy here in Missouri because he hasn't been campaigning.

He's really ticked off a lot of the grassroots with not just some of the policy positions that he's taken, but he just hasn't showed up to any of these events.

And I think he has this sort of entitlement complex.

And it's really strange because, you know, he's this kind of Ivy League Yale lawyer, but he kind of does this whole pretend populism thing like he's a MAGA Republican, but he's just so not.

And, I mean, if you really want to drain the swamp, if you really want to, you know, tick off Mitch McConnell and the Republican elites, there's only one vote in Missouri that's going to count that can actually win the primary and beat Claire McCaskill.

That's Austin Peterson for U.S.

Senate.

So I think that the President of the United States probably hasn't done his research and vetted everybody in this Senate primary.

He probably had just had somebody point at Josh Hawley and said, he's the guy.

And frankly, the president has better things to do than to worry about a Republican primary in Missouri.

But he's probably called in, so got had some favors called in for him.

And I mean, again, the question is, at the end of the day, are you an ABC voter?

Anybody but Claire?

If you want the strongest Republican Senate candidate, I beat her hands down.

Not only do I beat her 16 points overall, but you know what was really exciting, guys, is I beat her by 41 points with young people.

And if you want to restore and revitalize the Republican Party with true conservatives and true libertarians, I mean, I'm the best candidate who can do that here in Missouri.

So I'm hoping people are going to come come out for me on August 7th and pull a vote.

Yeah.

I actually believe that what you just said is true.

The country is moving in a different direction.

And if the Republicans don't

hop on and

understand, the Democrats are.

The Democrats are moving towards socialism.

And that is going to appeal to a younger group of people.

If the Republicans just keep playing the same game, you're going to find yourself in the dustbin of history.

You need to move towards a constitutional,

libertarian, but not necessarily a crazy libertarian,

a libertarian, constitutional kind of candidate, because that is what

the millennials will vote for.

And

they're fixing what we have put up with for so long.

They won't put up with it.

Absolutely.

I am the sworn enemy of democratic socialism, of communism, of collectivism.

I think that the Republican Party is at a crossroads right now, and that if we really want the future to be a limited government future, one that we can secure the blessings of prosperity for our posterity, then I think a conservative and libertarian alliance is what we really need.

And there are two of us, Liberty Republicans, who are running this year.

Highly recommend you check out Senator Eric Brake up in Maine, who's running against the horrible Angus King.

He's a great guy.

And then, of of course, here in Missouri, I think that there's probably no better state other than perhaps your own state of Texas that could have someone like myself who is a true constitutionalist, somebody who really wants to bridge the divide between left and right and say, you know, we have so many things in common as Americans.

We need to let this partisanship come behind so that we can put our country first, put our Constitution first, put our freedom first.

And that's what's best for our children.

They want to be free.

They don't want to be saddled with student debt.

They don't want to have to, you know, know, they don't even want to be in Social Security.

They should be allowed to opt out when they're young people into the private marketplace.

These kinds of solutions are what get young people excited, not democratic socialism.

But if we don't put up good leaders, then I'm afraid that they may be swayed by the Alexandria Ocaja Cortez's, the Bernie Sanders of the world, because when you just offer free stuff, free stuff, free stuff, I mean, that's a powerful incentive for some people.

But frankly, I prefer, you know, freedom is dangerous, Glenn.

I think that's why people are afraid of it.

Freedom is dangerous dangerous as hell, but frankly, I prefer it to the alternative.

Austin Peterson, running for U.S.

Senate in Missouri.

Thanks for being on with us.

And

I just, I think I have to go to the website and just put my name in so I could possibly win the ghost gunner

3D printer.

You can find Austin at austinpeterson.com, austinpeterson.com, or follow him at AP4, the number four, Liberty.

So air pollution, the national

in national parks is as bad as it is now in the top 20 major cities in the U.S.

Wait a minute.

What?

Did you know last week, Stu, that we had a whole bunch of.

Did you notice?

I don't know if you were here last week, but there was

like there was dirt in the sky.

It was a really brownish kind of sky here.

Did you notice that?

No.

It was the sands from the Sahara.

What?

Yeah, the sands of the Sahara Desert were blowing through Texas last week.

Is that crazy?

That does sound crazy.

Yeah.

And it's apparently, it happens from time to time, and it's how the earth works.

It's amazing.

It actually tamps down.

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The large majority of people are not pooping on the streets.

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I know.

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It's a police force.

I don't know that I would call it an authoritarian government.

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I have a lot to talk about today.

I want to talk to you about Elon Musk.

There's something going on with the media in Elon Musk, and Elon Musk is behaving erratically, but I think I know what it is.

And I want to take you through it.

There was an incredible article that just tore him apart a couple of days ago, and I want to talk to you about that.

Also, why socialism or how socialism kills countries.

That's coming up in about an hour from now.

We want to talk about the farm bill that the president has just pushed out and this tape that CNN has

released last night.

Now, let me ask you a couple of things.

I have seen

tapes come out and played on the news,

I don't even know how many times a thousand times

ten thousand times I've I've seen this happen

over and over again throughout my lifetime and all of the tapes have one thing in common

when you see them on television and you're listening to them what is the one thing that every single tape that you've ever seen have in common

what what is it stu

i mean particularly if the audio quality is not easy to understand you know like if you think of like the mitt romney 47 video do you remember seeing that you can kind of picture that in your mind at the bottom of the of the video you always see what the transcript as it goes okay have you word by word have you heard

audio tapes that are in worse condition than this one i mean very rarely it's it's it's you know there's been some but

this is a pretty bad quality audio tape, at least at times.

Right.

But you've, but somehow or another, we have.

Oh, yeah, you've seen worse.

And the media has declared what it said.

Now, CNN decides to run this tape, and they are very clear on what it says.

They think that it says Donald Trump said, pay in cash.

And they challenge you to listen to it.

But that's what their experts say.

But they wouldn't commit to that.

Otherwise, they would have put that transcript down.

But they don't run a transcript on any of it.

Okay.

So last night, Lanny Davis comes on, and he is Cohen's attorney.

Now, why would he hire Lanny Davis as an attorney?

Because that seems to be a sign

that he's turning on Trump.

Yeah, I mean, that's seemingly, at least that's what everyone's saying.

So Lanny Davis gets on and says, you have to listen to the tape.

Don't take my word.

Look, I'm a Democrat.

Don't take my word for it.

Listen to the tape.

So I did, over and over and over again.

And I want you to listen to the tape.

Now, you're going to hear in this part, they're talking about,

you know,

they've got to take care of this thing and they've got to set up some sort of a

fund and pay into it.

And the question is, and it's muffled: did Donald Trump say pay in cash or don't pay in cash?

If he said don't pay in cash, then it's consistent with what he has said.

And if he didn't, then

Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani are liars.

Okay, now this is

where the media is.

I'm going to take you beyond the media here in a second, but it's important first to establish this.

What does he say here?

And it's preceded,

or you will hear right after, you will hear Cohen saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And the way he says it to me is like an agreement.

No, no, no, no.

I know, I know, I know.

Listen.

And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be easy.

Listen.

What financing?

We'll have to pay you.

So

I got no, no, no.

Play it again.

And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be easy.

Listen.

What financing?

Law has to.

Stop.

He said, stop, stop, stop.

He said,

financing, what financing?

Well, we're going to have to make a payment somehow.

Listen again now.

Listen to the rest.

And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be easy, listen, Wedfight answer.

We'll have to pay you.

So I'll pay.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I got no, no, no, Jack.

What did he say?

Now, it's hard to hear, but

I listened to it with headphones on this morning, and I listened to it over and over and over again.

And to me, it is really clear that he said, don't pay in cash.

Can you do it one more time?

Yes.

And I spoke to Alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be, listen, we're financing.

We'll have to pay you.

So

I got no, no, no.

Stu?

I feel like he says, don't pay with cash.

Right.

Now,

there are ways

to figure out exactly what he said.

CNN decides to run with this.

Why?

Because they're absolutely convinced he says pay in cash.

He does.

He just says it after don't.

Right, right.

Now, maybe he does say pay in cash.

I don't know.

I haven't done forensics on this, but you can do forensics.

Can you send this tape right away to Nick?

Yeah, sure.

Our audio guy.

See if he can clean it up and boost it and see if he can turn it around for us this morning.

Okay.

I think when he's saying, he's saying essentially, don't pay it in cash.

And then Cohen's saying, well, of course not.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Obviously, we're not going to pay it in cash.

Right.

That's exactly the way it sounds.

If you would have said, you know, Glenn, you know, or let me use a real life example.

My wife says to me, You're not wearing that outside, are you?

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And then I go in and change,

even though I had every intention of wearing that outside.

Okay.

So Cohen may have been considering paying in cash, but as soon as he hears Trump say, don't pay any cash, right?

He's like, No, no, no, of course not.

Oh, no, obviously.

I got it.

It's possible.

Okay, so now the question is:

the media is making this into,

see,

Donald Trump is lying to you about a payoff

with a Playboy Pate that he had sex with.

Is there anything new there, Stu?

Is there anything new there?

Anything that you didn't know was in the realm of wild possibilities, not just possible, highly probable, if Donald Trump were elected president.

No, I mean, we all kind of price this one in, I think.

Yeah, we all know.

Oh, he, wait a minute, hold it just a second.

Donald Trump likes the ladies?

Donald Trump likes big, buxom blondes?

I believe she's a brunette, I believe.

Whatever.

Donald Trump may have made it with a penthouse pet or a playmate.

No way.

There's not a lot of surprise coming out of that part of the story.

There's not.

Yeah.

I mean,

and

Donald Trump, who has this angel of an attorney,

they might pay people off to keep them quiet.

Shut up.

No, it's not a surprise.

Right.

This is akin to coming out and saying now and expecting people to be surprised.

Did you know that in New York, Donald Trump kind of worked with the mob.

I mean, he didn't kill anybody, but yeah, he was working with the mob.

He'd get his buildings built and stuff.

He'd do some payoffs from time to time with the mob.

Get out of here.

You mean the guy who had the casino in Atlantic City?

The guy, that guy?

The guy who can build buildings twice as fast as anyone else doesn't seem to be slowed down by anything in a city riddled with unions and mobsters shut up

i mean there's no surprise there everybody has already baked this in okay

and here's what the media is doing

the media is missing the real question

They just think that, see, we caught him.

We caught him.

He was lying.

It's Donald Trump.

It's Donald Trump.

Yeah, I mean,

look, it's a tough thing because, you know, Trump pretty clearly denied that he had any knowledge of this payoff.

Yes,

he did.

And did you believe it at the time?

I did not.

Yes, neither did I, nor did anyone else.

I don't care what Reverend Jeffries says.

He didn't believe it either.

Right.

You know, I don't care what, I don't care what any of these

pious religious beliefs.

Well, no, this happened a long time ago and he's changed.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

Not to the average person with Donald Trump.

It doesn't matter.

I think it's all priced in.

I wish it did, but it doesn't.

Yeah.

You know, I think you can fairly say that if we had a Democrat on tape who was talking about a payoff to a media source

to purchase and hide a star.

Yes.

We would be a little upset about that.

Yes.

Especially

in the weeks leading up to an election.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

But again,

you know, I do think that this is all at this point priced in.

You know, you look at

the other day, I happened to be scrolling through some, you know, some of the nerdy stat sites that I look at, and one of them had posted

just

a graph of Donald Trump's approval rating since he took office.

If that thing had moved more than four points in either direction since the day he walked in, I would have been surprised.

It's basically a straight line from left to right.

Everybody knows.

Everyone has an opinion of Donald Trump.

They know who he is,

and nobody's moving.

Nobody is moving.

Right.

And I think, you know, look, you look at this, and I think you can fairly say, you know, he's done a lot of really good things since he's been in office.

If you're a Republican or a conservative, you probably like at least one, if not two, of his Supreme Court justice picks.

You like that the economy's been doing pretty well.

You know,

there are things to like, certainly ISIS

is a big one.

There's been a lot of positive things that have happened.

And so you price in, okay, well, I know he does some stuff that used to make me uncomfortable.

But I'm going to put up with it because there's some things that I really like.

And I think that's the decision that people are making on a day-to-day basis.

I don't think this type of thing surprises, this activity surprises anybody.

I mean, look at the way Cohen was acting in the campaign.

He was acting just like this and was caught on tape acting just like this during the campaign with a story he didn't like about Trump during the campaign, screaming at reporters, threatening them with lawsuits.

This is what his business was.

Payoffs, threats, you know, nobody's surprised me.

Nobody's surprised.

And nobody should be surprised that Michael Cohen is America's worst attorney.

The fact that he would go in there and record his own client in a sensitive conversation like that is absolutely inexcusable

as an attorney.

He should never get another client.

Luckily, he's only had like one anyway.

Okay, so here's the guy who knows where all the bodies are buried.

Yeah, if Donald Trump ever did anything

truly illegal, certainly Michael Cohen knows that he knows it.

He thinks that

this should give Trump supporters

some hope, I think.

This is the one that he releases?

Now, you could make the case that he's holding back something really, really juicy, but if you just want this to go away,

you release something.

This is nothing.

This is nothing.

This is not going to change the polls either way.

Yeah, I think everyone's going to take what they want out of it.

Everybody's going to say he said said didn't, or he did say yes, you got to pay in cash.

It doesn't matter.

So everybody hardens their position.

And if this is the thing that they have, that is the smoking gun,

this is Cohen saying, I got to get him on tape for this.

Now, think about this.

He's not the worst attorney.

He believes in self-preservation.

If Donald Trump is a guy who can turn on you and destroy you, and you're burying all of the bodies, you want to make sure that you have some insurance.

I suppose that's true, although that's the exact opposite of what an attorney is supposed to do.

An attorney is supposed to defend their client at personal risk, no matter what the whatever they have to do.

They're supposed to say all sorts of things that they might not even believe.

Yes.

To defend their client and get their client the best possible defense.

Recording a guy who, by the way, was weeks away from a presidential election and storing that in your home, by the way, so if you get raided, they're going to find it is the sign of the worst attorney of all time.

Oh, no, he's clearly the worst attorney of all time.

Okay, so he's clearly give me two other parts.

First of all, there's supposedly only 12 tapes that they found, and this is the only one with Donald Trump's voice on it.

So if you think there's something else coming from the tapes,

that doesn't seem to be anything, at least how it's been reported so far.

This is as bad as it gets for Donald Trump, at least with his voice on a tape that we know of.

I think that's kind of interesting.

The second thing is, why is Cohen doing this?

Cohen is either really flipped on Donald Trump after all these years.

It's possible that he's flipped on him and he's decided, you know what?

I've got no path left, self-preservation, and I'm going to go with a Democratic attorney, a Clinton associated attorney, and go for this and try to make friends on the other side and hopefully get out of this.

That could be his approach here.

The other possible approach in my mind is that he's looking for signaling from the White House that if something goes down and and Cohen gets in trouble, he's going to get pardoned.

He wants Trump to come out, kind of like he's done

with Flynn.

He signaled this way a little bit.

He certainly did it with the sheriff in

Arizona that he wound up pardoning, where he kind of comes out and says, look,

if they're coming after him with ridiculous partisan attacks, and if they're going to do that, well, then I'm going to have to pardon him.

And if he would signal that, I think Cohen probably is going to be fine.

But he's signaling the opposite.

He's saying what I'm saying about Michael Cohen, which is what kind of crap heap attorney is going to come out and record his own client.

So if he does have more, if anything on these 12 tapes is really bad and

he gets into trouble,

Cohen will flip hard on Trump.

But what would make anybody care?

See, because

the press has so discredited themselves.

If If the press would have come out and talked about Donald Trump from the beginning and been fair, maybe, maybe

things would be different.

But they haven't.

Every step of the way, they've been unfair.

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The problem with the media is they do not

understand the art of persuasion.

And they don't understand the art of persuasion anymore because they haven't been challenged.

See, back in the 1950s, when they were embedding messages in movies, et cetera, et cetera, they were doing those things intentionally because they had to persuade Americans to move.

Now, the current crop of people,

they've never been challenged on any of these things.

They're in the mainstream of their culture.

The media has never been challenged, really seriously challenged.

They're all in lockstep.

And so they don't understand the art of persuasion.

They don't even think they have to make the case.

They just say it and it is.

And people are supposed to fall in line.

And when people don't fall in line,

they don't understand it.

And so they become more and more unfair and unreasonable, and they can't explain anything to anyone because they've lost that ability because they've never had to.

So

if the media would have come out at the very beginning, for instance, let me take the collusion thing with Russia.

They've been saying forever, collusion, collusion, collusion.

Okay, when this story first broke, I was probably one of the first to say, well, yeah, I bet, I bet if they had,

you know, when they had those emails saying, hey, we got something on Hillary Clinton,

And Don Jr.

writes back and says, Hey, well, why don't you stop on by?

We're very interested in that.

Okay.

When they had just that,

I was like, Absolutely, absolutely, they colluded.

Absolutely.

However,

that's not the way the scenario played out.

But the media continued to say it did.

Let me let me pick it up there next.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Okay, so we're talking about the Cohen tapes, and do they even matter?

And I contend no.

And I contend that they don't matter for a couple of reasons.

First of all,

to me, it sounds like he is saying don't pay cash.

Now, CNN says it sounds to them like he says pay in cash.

that's the best you got, where we're both hearing, and let's say we're both being honest, we're both hearing that.

You got nothing.

You got nothing.

Okay.

And is it even that big of a deal?

The format of the payment?

No.

It shouldn't be the payment.

Yeah, you're worried about it.

It shows it all.

They're trying to say that he's lying.

No.

Shut up.

Okay.

So let me show you why this does matter,

but it won't matter.

And it's the press who's at fault.

Okay?

Like I said, you go into a drug dealer and you say, hey, I want to buy some crack.

You can send him an email.

I want to buy some crack.

He says, come to my crack house.

So you pull up.

You have the money.

And you walk in.

And you feel spooked.

And so you don't buy any crack.

Or you say, hey, where's the crack you promised?

And they say, well, I don't have any crack.

And you say, what?

I drove all the way down here for crack.

I don't have any crack.

Well, I was going to buy crack from you.

Well, I don't have any crack to sell you.

Damn it.

You walk out.

The feds could be recording you.

It doesn't matter.

You didn't buy crack, did you?

That was your intent?

You didn't buy crack.

So

they got nothing.

They got nothing.

That's just the way the law works.

So they start with this collusion.

No, it's not.

Might have been.

Hey, we've got some crack on Hillary Clinton.

I like crack.

Can you come to the office?

Sure.

Bring your crack.

Okay.

They get in the office.

They don't have crack.

You can talk about maybe they would have colluded, but they didn't.

Okay?

You got nothing.

You got nothing.

If the media would have come out and said just that, look, it looks like he wanted to collude, but they didn't in the end.

Now, it could be because they didn't have any crack,

but we also don't have any evidence while we were in the meeting that he said, hey, where's the crack?

And even if he did say that, it's not collusion until they make a deal.

So they

didn't do that.

Instead, they went after him with everything.

Now,

this whole Russia gate has been going on and going on and going on they spent i don't know how many how many hours how many days how many months now digesting this and and regurgitating and eating it up again on television doing all they can to make sure you know everything donald trump does is bad

now Let's just say they would have been good the whole time and said, you know,

there's no collusion here.

There is a problem with Russia, but there's no collusion here.

Would he wanted to have colluded?

Looks like it, but he didn't.

So we got to move on.

If they would have dealt with him like this in a reasonable way, maybe,

maybe,

people would have cared when you come out with this tape, but not for the reason you are saying.

The media is like, look, he's lying.

It's Donald Trump.

If his lips are moving, there's a pretty good shot.

He's not saying what's really happening.

Okay.

And that's a lot of times by his own definition, his own defense.

And people like that.

We'll say, you know, this is him negotiating, right?

He's actually making a harsh statement about X topic.

He doesn't actually mean it.

They say this to us all the time about tariffs, right?

Like, oh, no, he's not actually going to do these tariffs.

That's not really what he wants to do.

He's just negotiating with these other countries.

Okay.

So maybe he is.

It's Donald Trump.

You don't know.

You cannot take what he says seriously.

You have to take what he does seriously.

All right.

So they come to you and say,

look,

he's just, here he is on tape with his attorney trying to buy a story from a media outlet to suppress it.

Now, that's different than I bought

Stormy Daniel's story so she wouldn't share it to the press.

That's different.

That's a transaction between you and her, and that's her business.

You might think it's shady, but it's you know, but it's what's done, okay?

This, I'm very uncomfortable with

a candidate for anything, a president, candidate, vice president, senator, anyone being able to go to the press and say, you have that story?

Listen, don't run that story, and it'll give you X number of dollars.

That's a problem for me.

Yeah, and it's something that I don't think he did anything illegal.

Nope.

Here, nope.

You know, I don't know.

I can't say that I'm well-versed enough in campaign finance law to say that it's not with complete certainty.

But I mean, I don't think he did anything illegal.

Although, I think in the future, it may be something we want to at least consider making illegal.

Can you, I mean, because we suck at this.

We have no media sources.

Can you imagine how a Democrat would be able to exploit this?

And they probably have, right?

Where if a Democrat, if it was legal and and acceptable for a presidential candidate a few weeks before the election to go to the New York Times and say, here's a million dollars, get this person's story, convince them you're going to run it, and then just bury it.

That is not something I would want Barack Obama to do or, you know, Kamala Harris to do or any other Democrat in the future, and they're going to be a lot better at it than we are.

Right.

So here's, and see, but this is

one reason why it doesn't matter.

If he had gone to the Washington Post, let's go, let's be reasonable.

He goes to Fox News.

They have this story and they're like, I got this story.

We're going to run.

And he says, I got to give you a million dollars and you make that disappear, right?

Oh, yeah, okay.

Let's Fox News.

This is the National Enquirer.

Okay, they don't have any real

credibility as it is.

So going to the National Enquirer and saying, okay, I just don't want the headache.

What is this going to cost?

Yeah.

That's different than the New York Times.

So there are levels of this.

I still don't want somebody to be able to do it, but it's not against the law that I know of.

And it is shady,

but it's Donald Trump negotiating with the National Enquirer.

I mean,

what part of that isn't shady?

Yeah, I mean, look, we, you know, this is, again, I think priced in.

A lot of people are saying, well, how can this be a lie if the payment never happened?

Well, first of all, we don't have record of it happening right now.

We know the payment happened from the source they're talking about to the porn star.

I don't know if does Playboy count as a porn star?

I don't know.

But

Playboy model.

I think she did.

Yeah.

I didn't see the photos of this particular person.

But if you go and...

If that payment, we know that part of the payment definitely happened.

That's on record and has been already talked about and discussed widely.

The payment from the media source to her, she

was paid and told that she was going to be able to

run columns on the site and everything else.

So we know that part of it happened.

We don't know for sure whether the payment happened from Cohen or from another organization to the media, to this media source from some other direction.

We know they talked about it.

We know he said he had no awareness of it, and now he's on tape being very aware of it.

So, I mean, we can all brush this off as nothing.

And I think because there's probably nothing illegal here, that might very well be the right right thing to do as far as the grand scheme of things.

Though, let's just think about this for a moment.

Do we want this precedent going forward?

No.

I think probably we should do something nothing to do with Donald Trump.

It's like what they did with FDR, right?

FDR had a,

he ran fair and square, ran for multiple terms past two.

He went for three, he went for four.

And he probably would have kept running until the end of time.

When he died, everyone said, okay, he did that fair and square.

Let's set a new precedent going forward that we don't want presidential candidates paying media sources to hide stories.

That really shouldn't be something that's on the street.

Let me ask you this.

If Hillary Clinton would have done exactly the same thing and she were on TV saying it's a vast right-wing conspiracy and deny, deny, deny, deny, deny.

But then tape came out.

And it showed her with,

I'm trying to think of a joke like the National Enquirer, the New York Times.

And

it shows that she is

she colluded with or paid off somebody.

Let's just say it was the, you know, the Daily News.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let's say that.

Not the New York Times, the Daily News, something that is like.

They do a tabloid-y type stunt like that, right?

Right.

Okay.

So she did a deal with that.

We would be pretty outraged.

If it was Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times, then I'd really be upset.

But if she was paying a journalist to hide a story that they had, I would have a problem with that.

And not even that, to go out and get, right?

Like, they went out and got the story,

catch and kill, they call it.

They went out and got the story to kill it.

It wasn't like they were about to run it and they got a payment, don't run it.

They went out and bought the story so they could kill it.

I mean, you know.

Or sell it.

Well, no, but they didn't.

Yeah, I mean, they got the story so that they would suppress it.

It could be, I guess, I mean, sell it to Donald Trump.

Right.

I guess that could be it.

The point is, though, that this is not a good precedent.

I think we could all agree that that's

whether you think that whether he did was illegal or not, whether you think that, well, we all knew this about Trump, whether you think, well, the payment wasn't

that officially go through.

Let's just say it didn't go through and there's nothing to talk about here.

In the future.

We should probably do something to make sure that this isn't a normal occurrence.

And if it's happened, because if it's happened, if this comes out on Hillary Clinton tomorrow, that a week before the election, she paid the New York Daily News a bunch of money to hide a story.

I'm going to be really outraged about that.

Aren't you?

Yeah, I will be.

I mean, I know, I will be.

So the point here is that, you know, a lot of times

you can't be unless you either stand against it right now and say,

I'm outraged by this, but

it's not against the law.

As far as I know.

But yeah, as far as I know, it's not against the law.

So if it's not against the law, then

you had every right to do it.

Now, let's change that law so he or anybody else cannot do that

because it is outrageous that

you would stifle a story.

You would buy a story from a media outlet to stifle it and to kill it.

That's not cool.

That's not a free press.

The free press, I mean, I would be just as mad at the New York Times or Washington Post if they had done a deal like this with Hillary Clinton, I'd be equally as mad at them.

Why isn't anybody throwing up the National Enquirer?

Because they have no journalistic credibility.

That's why.

And that's really saying something in a...

in a world where no one has any journalistic integrity.

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Also, the farm subsidies that are coming out.

This is bad.

This is really bad.

The farm subsidies?

Wait a minute.

We're paying our farmers because our trade policy is backfiring?

That doesn't sound good.

Anyway.

Things are dicey.

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Venezuela apparently is going to have 1 million percent inflation by the end of the year.

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Welcome back to the program.

Coming up in a few minutes, we have Andrew Clavin joining us.

He is going to be talking about how socialism kills countries.

And he did a really great monologue on it yesterday.

Andrew Clavin joins us in just a few minutes.

Also, we need to talk a little bit about the farm bill.

You know, talking about socialism, this is socialism, and it's caused by us.

Now, I'd love to hear from farmers because I would imagine that a lot of farmers are like, look, I'm going to give this a try for a while here, but, you know, because I'm hoping that what Donald Trump is doing is a negotiation tactic, and this is going to either work or he's going to stop doing it soon.

But

we're now offering billions of dollars in aid to buy.

all of the pork and beef and everything else that is that is sitting in a freezer someplace that nobody wants.

And Donald Trump suggested that maybe we buy all of that and give it to food banks.

Well, that's good, except that's our tax dollars.

That's socialism.

And what you've done is

you've caused this by your quote negotiation tactics on trade.

It's not good.

And I'm hoping that we don't go down this road very much further.

But we'll talk about that.

And

also, Elon Musk.

I have a reason, I think, why Elon Musk is

getting

the straight arm

from

the people on the left and the media.

Why are they shunning him?

I'll tell you next.

Glenn Beck.

Man, if you listen at all to the mainstream media, you think the world is ending because of fake news.

And

my gosh, it just couldn't get any worse.

Well, actually, it is a lot worse.

In countries like India, fake news and the danger it poses is not hyperbole because this is happening there in private messaging apps.

24 people have been killed by mob lynchings just in India

this year because of fake news that is being spread.

on things like WhatsApp.

Now, private messaging app, WhatsApp, Telegram, WeChat, Line, What these are,

these are apps where people can forward messages to their friends or groups, and there's no way to determine the origin of the message.

And the messages are all encrypted, so no one could read the message that isn't intended for them.

So

nobody can monitor this.

Even the employees of the apps can't access the messages.

And now somebody has found a way to weaponize them.

So in India,

there was a group of friends that were driving through a village.

They paused to give chocolate to some children.

Well, somebody had started a rumor on WhatsApp

that the car full of people that were handing out candy were kidnappers.

Well, they weren't.

And when they stopped to hand out candy, A mob formed and overwhelmed the group of friends and they killed one of them, a 32-year-old guy.

And the brother of the guy said, look, I did everything I could.

I was screaming at us, stop, stop, stop.

We're not kidnappers.

And he said, my brother has been killed by fake news.

In Brazil, fake message claiming that a yellow fever vaccine was

dangerous.

That spread through WhatsApp.

And so people did not go and take the mandatory vaccine that the government was handing out.

They had to go and debunk that claim.

But still, how many people in today's world, how many people are going to believe

the government over an anonymous WhatsApp message?

I mean, that's how crazy it is.

WhatsApp was

developed by two libertarians, deep belief in privacy.

The whole concept for the app revolved around not mining and storing information about people.

In 2014, Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19 billion.

Now, ironically, the privacy controls that made this and similar apps so appealing are the very things that people are now using to weaponize it and to spread fake news.

Technology continues to improve and improve so many aspects of our life.

And it's going to get harder and harder to, you know, you're never going to put it back in the bottle, nor should we try.

But there's one thing it cannot improve on.

That's left to us, and that is our ability

to restrain ourselves,

tell

and recognize the truth.

It's Wednesday, July 25th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Andrew Clavin is

a remarkable man.

He's one of the smartest guys.

I mean, he makes me feel just like a dumb as a box of rocks around him.

And he's got an enormous vocabulary.

He's really, really super smart

and very well read

across everything.

He's kind of a jack of all trades.

He's a writer.

He started in the 70s as a reporter.

He worked for ABC Radio, writing news for them, et cetera, et cetera.

And then he started writing novels, and he won some awards and made a splash.

And he's probably best known for Don't Say a Word, which was a Michael Douglas film eventually, and True Crime, which was a Clint Eastwood film.

He wrote those, also Empire of Lies.

And he also wrote a Michael Caine movie and a horror film.

And now he is in the belly of the beast in Hollywood, and he is just writing things that tell the truth about things like socialism.

Yesterday, he on his program did a great job explaining how socialism is killing countries all around the world.

Welcome to the program, Andrew Clavin.

Thanks, Clennam.

It's great to be here.

So

are you shocked at how quickly socialism has become?

Totally cool.

You know, it is a little shocking, but the funny thing about socialism is it's kind of diabolical.

It takes about 70 years to suck a country dry when you institute socialism.

If you look at the communist revolution to the fall of the Berlin Wall, just about a lifetime.

You look at the post-World War II Europe that went very socialist to today when Europe is essentially being subsumed by migration and by a loss of inner faith in themselves, just in about a lifetime.

So it's diabolical because the people who start the socialism and the people who see the society fall are not the same people.

And they don't connect.

They think, oh, it can't be the national health care that's turned us from an empire into a backwater.

That can't be right, because I've had national health care all my life.

But that is, in fact, what it is.

It's the socialism that is both the symptom of the disease.

Socialism comes in as a society has lost faith in itself, and it's also the cause of that disease getting worse.

It sucks out.

Well, it does so many things, but the two most important things that socialism does is the first thing is it institutes the logic of slavery.

I'm a big believer that ideas expand to fulfill their own logic.

So you start out by saying all men are created equal, meaning all white men essentially, but that idea is going to expand to include everybody and women too eventually because ideas expand.

The basic idea of socialism is that your time that you put into your work that creates your money belongs to the state.

Your life belongs to the state.

It's exactly the same logic that a master says to his slave.

He says to his slave, you do the work, but I'll get the profits because I'm superior to you.

And that's what the state says to the people under socialism.

So it essentially turns you into slaves.

You wonder why, in a single generation, Nicaragua becomes a slave state,

goes from being a right-wing slave state to being a left-wing slave state.

Venezuela is destroyed in the blink of an eye.

And basically, the juice of Europe, the thing that made Europe the the greatest civilization on earth, the Europe of Shakespeare, the Europe of Mozart, the Europe of John Locke, that Europe is gone.

That Europe is just gone.

And socialism has a lot to do with it.

And the other thing, and to me,

sometimes people go a little nuts when I say this because they don't quite understand what I mean.

But socialism is a materialist philosophy.

In order to turn people into slaves, you've got to take their God away.

You can't say to them, you know, God made you in his image.

You are unique.

You are cherished.

You are loved.

You have dignity because you're taking his rights away.

What you're saying to him is everything you need is is contained in a dollar bill and a lunch bag.

You know, I give you a dollar bill and a lunch bag, you're happy.

You don't need meaning.

You don't need, you know, dignity.

You just need your dollar.

I give you enough money in a lunch bag, and you let me make the decisions.

Once you take God out of a civilization,

you've literally taken the meaning out of a civilization.

You've basically said that the only thing you are are physical beings.

You live, you have pleasure, you have pain, and you die.

And when you say that to people,

the reason for all the stuff that we do, all the great stuff that we do, all the stuff that makes us a vibrant, creative civilization like America, it's gone.

It's gone.

There's no reason to sit in your garage and starve for 14 years to invent some kind of new battery that'll store wind power.

You know, you don't have to do that because

there's no meaning to it.

And you watch socialist countries, and this happens to every single one of them.

I always hear people, when they tout socialism, they look at countries that aren't really socialist, but have very high taxes and a lot of social spending, like Norway.

And they say, ah, you know, the polls show everybody's happy in Norway.

And you think, yeah, but everything they use was invented in a capitalist country.

Are they using cell phones?

Are they using cars?

Do they have an army that can protect them?

Or do they depend on our army to keep invaders away?

They're living in our garage.

So they're happy in the same way that children are happy because they don't have to take care of anything.

They don't have to make anything.

It's a lot harder to be dad than it is to be, you know, the four-year-old kid.

And I just think when we stop and just look at the internal logic of socialism and you see a pretty girl like Alexandria Casio-Cortez, you know,

talking about it, you think like, wow, this sounds pretty good.

But if you could live 140 years instead of 70 years and see what it does to a nation, you would understand that this is the wedge of a very, very dangerous and destructive philosophy.

How concerned were you when you heard Cortez say, you know, capitalism isn't going to be around forever, and all of these things that you say happened because of the free market and because of the Constitution and the Enlightenment,

that's just natural, man's natural evolution.

They would have come up with this anyway.

That's a wonderful philosophy.

I mean, the kind of saving grace of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is that she's adult.

But she's really, but she's not.

She has two degrees.

She has an economics degree and foreign affairs degree.

Glenn, you're making me lose my faith in higher education.

I didn't know you had any.

Because the woman says we have low unemployment because everyone has two jobs, and I'm kind of counting on my finger.

And I think, well, if we had one job, we'd still have the same unemployment numbers.

It's a very strange way of thinking.

But yeah, I mean, that is what you have to tell yourself.

Capitalism has reduced poverty around the world.

You know, this world we live in, this world of wonders and wealth, where

people are living, even the poor are living in ways that the pharaohs couldn't have dreamed of.

You know,

if the pharaoh who built the pyramids walked into

a convenience store in our world, he'd be shocked.

This world didn't drop out of the sky.

This world was built by capitalism.

And

on what evidence you are saying that that is

an idea?

Sure, it's an idea that transformed the world for the better, but now we've evolved out of it.

My question, I guess, is what's your evidence?

How do you know that the future is some perfect socialist world where we get to spend what capitalism created?

I mean, where's the logic in that?

If you spend what capitalism created, what's going to create more wealth?

Andrew, the president is

debuting a farm bill, which we are only having to spend $12 billion on because of the trade bill.

And we've put trade barriers up, which is anti-free market.

And those trade barriers, people are retaliating, and now our farmers are really, really hurting.

We have, I don't even remember how many tons, what is it, 12 million tons of meat sitting in freezers that is going unsold, and our farmers don't know what to do.

And I think a lot of them are sitting here going, well, okay, well, I need the farm bill, and I'm hoping that this is just a negotiation tactic, and it's going to pay off soon.

But it's certainly not paying off now.

In fact, it is now Republican socialism.

Is it not?

You know, I really worry about Trump on this.

I tend to hold fire with Trump because I know a negotiation is a moving thing.

Yes.

And they're always attacking where Trump is standing at this moment when I know he is thinking down the line of where he's trying to get.

But in this case, I don't get it because if he is spending this money on the farmers, he said this himself, to buy himself some time so he can punish China for their undoubtedly bad practices, right?

So he's punishing China with tariffs.

China is responding with tariffs that are hurting the farmers, so he's paying off the farmers.

But China knows he's just buying time, right?

So China, why doesn't China just wait him out?

Why doesn't he think China won't just wait him out and get to the point where the tariffs are destroying us, but not doing all that much to China?

I don't understand understand what he's thinking here.

You know, there are a lot of people who think Trump is playing three-dimensional chess all the time.

And listen, sometimes he's had some great outcomes.

So sometimes I think, well, maybe they're right.

I don't get it with this.

And I especially, I know this is the kind of thing that probably only bothers you and me in America, is tariffs are supposed to be done by Congress.

You know, that's actually in the Constitution.

And they keep handing this stuff off to the president.

And I wonder, well, why do that?

Why isn't Congress in charge of this like it says in the Constitution?

Because they don't want to be holding the bag.

They don't want to be holding the bag.

And so they don't do anything about immigration.

They don't do anything about terrorists.

And so then they accuse Trump of being an authoritarian.

And to Trump's credit, he keeps saying, no, pass a law, please.

You know, legislate.

You're the legislators.

So, you know, this thing, this has been Trump's philosophy on trade forever.

This is not a new thing.

He's not just making it up.

We're going to have to play it out because nobody's going to stop it.

And, you know, I've got my fingers crossed that he's got an

idea.

You know, that's the best I can come up with at this moment because I don't see the logic of it.

If this is just a delaying tactic, why won't the Chinese just wait us out in the same way when Obama announced that he was going to pull out of Afghanistan?

Why doesn't the Taliban just wait us out?

So we can have a trade war if we're going to surrender.

I only have about a minute here, Andrew, but I'd love to get an opinion on you if you could in a minute.

My fear is the economy goes to hell in a handbag, and we are going to be looking for socialists.

If the economy stays good, we're going to be fine.

But we will look for a handout from a socialist, and they'll be glad to give it to us.

Do we weather a storm like

a very bad

2008 or Great Depression somewhere in between?

It's a very open question.

I think your worries are really well based.

You know, I'm always pretty optimistic.

I'm hoping that Trump will pull out if he sees the economy going south.

But that is how exactly how communism spread.

When you look at China, the corrupt government that the idealistic communists came in and replaced was less honest than the communists.

And the same thing is true of the czars.

That's how it gets in.

It gets in when

capitalism fails because of mismanagement by politicians.

So your worries are completely well-founded.

I just hope Trump is not a dumb guy, and I hope he pulls out if he sees that happening.

Andrew Clavin, always good to talk to you, sir.

Thank you so much.

And

my best to your family.

I will tell you, Andrew Clavin is a remarkable guy.

He is a guy who, when I saw him, I don't know, about a year ago,

we hadn't seen each other in years.

And he said, Glenn, I have to tell you something.

About 10 years ago, I said something to somebody, and he said, I was wrong.

And I said it about you, and it was just a joke.

But it just, it never felt right.

And I needed to apologize.

And I said,

I didn't even hear the joke, did I?

He said, no.

And I said, it was a joke.

He said, yeah.

And I said, relax, Andrew.

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Okay.

I was a little disappointed.

I thought we were going to have

the girl on yesterday

from.

You did.

You remember the interview you did it yesterday from the show?

From the story from Refinery 29, which was this millennial in New York that was having to struggle on a

$25

an hour job.

And, you know, she had to limit her trips to the Hamptons and

her avocado toast.

It was quite amazing.

And then we get on TV.

I'm told all day that we have her, and she bore a striking resemblance to you, Stu.

Well,

I mean, I found her to be quite attractive, so I'll take that as a compliment.

Really?

Really?

Yeah, she.

I don't know why she seemed a little ditzy.

I think she got her.

I missed this part because I was looking away, and then I look up, and it looks like she was.

Why were you looking away?

Well,

but it looked like she accidentally got her gum in her hair.

There was some gum in the hair by mistake there by this particular guest.

And we never marked it as satire, so everyone should assume it was 100% accurate.

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Welcome to the program.

I'm so very glad that you have joined us.

There's kind of an internal debate here and um uh

it's about the trump tapes and stu makes a really good case and i want you to hear it here in a second but pat and i are both saying it doesn't matter this doesn't matter that first of all i didn't think did you did you think that he said pay cash or don't pay in cash i couldn't really tell uh but

I'm not really sure why that's such an incredible focus.

Yeah, I think that's.

Well, I think it's because he said, because Rudy Giuliani said

he didn't say pay in cash.

Right.

But what if he did?

Or he didn't?

He was trying to hide it.

Either way,

he was already trying to hide it.

Either way, yeah, he said he didn't know anything about this in advance publicly, and he did know about it in advance.

So he was obviously trying to hide it.

He's trying to hide it from regulators, I guess, would be the accusation.

Because we know the payment happened from the media source to her.

That we know.

So we just don't know whether there was a payment from Trump to the media source as well.

But I mean, we know the payment actually occurred.

And now it looks like it obviously did.

And it doesn't look like there was a slush fund.

Remember, our initial idea was that there was some sort of a slush fund.

And he did open a company with that purpose.

We know that.

He then closed it with no payment made.

So the belief is that the payment was actually never made.

So they never paid Kieran McDougal.

No, they did pay McDougal.

That payment came from

the National Enquirer.

The question is, did they pay the National Enquirer?

We know

they were planning to do it.

We know they set up the company to do it, but the company apparently never paid the money on record through that company to the National Enquirer.

Now, is it possible that they decided later, you know what, let's do cash?

It's possible.

Or did they decide, you know what?

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

And maybe David Pecker was like, you know, guys, you don't need to give me $150,000.

I'll just pay it.

You know, I mean, he's a friend.

That's not an incredible amount of money for David Pecker to just suck it up

and spend.

Yeah, there's, you know, again, this is Russian collusion.

Even if it was illegal to pay the cash or whatever,

does it matter?

Because they didn't that we know of.

There's nothing here.

There's nothing here.

And nobody's going to care.

No Trump supporter is going to care about this.

They already don't.

No, and you know what?

They don't care.

And I think it's because, A, we've already baked it in.

We've already baked it in.

Yeah.

Pat, how surprised are you that he slept with a Playboy model after he was married to

another sibling?

Well, look, I wasn't electing a pastor-in-chief.

So

I didn't care.

I didn't care.

No, no, hang on.

But

be sincere.

This is one of the things that

we already knew before the election that he did.

Right.

We said before the election, listen to him on Howard Stern.

That's who he is.

That's who he is.

And so nobody is surprised by this.

When you look at Cohen, did anybody think he was a clean attorney?

No.

No.

I thought he was a mob attorney.

Well, we heard him ranting and raving

against

who was that that he was threatening?

Said a media source.

Daily Beast

reporter, yeah.

So, you know, when you know who he is, you're like, okay, whoa, whoa, he was going to set up a dummy corporation to pay the National Inquirer.

Nobody cares.

And it's not like you're paying off Fox.

You're paying off the National Inquirer.

Now, all of that, all of that, Stu's point has been all day.

If we found out that Barack Obama had paid off, no, let's use it because Barack Obama is not believable.

Bill Clinton is the Democratic version of Donald Trump when it comes to his love life.

Okay.

Sure.

Right.

So would anybody have been surprised that Bill Clinton was making it with a supermodel or a Playboy model or a porn star?

No.

I wouldn't be.

You know, it'd be an upgrade.

So

Bill Clinton,

if this story would have come out,

Bill Clinton pays National Enquirer to silence Playboy model, who says she had an illicit affair with him.

Would we care?

Yeah, we would.

Of course.

Of course we would have.

We would have.

Of course,

we would have, and we did care about all of his scandals.

The three of us cared about the Trump scandals, too.

And that's why none of us voted for him.

We did care.

I do care.

But the people who really support him strongly, I don't think they do now.

And

that's the problem.

My appeal here, I think, is because I think, you know, it's true.

I always say this to people on the left when they're like, they'll say, there'll be a column and be like, oh, you know, we need to do something about all these white people.

And they are so

geared to be reflexively calling everything racism, you have to ask them, okay, just change the, the, the letter or the word from white to black.

And then you can say, would you feel that that was racist?

And if someone is saying, well, look at the problem here is all these black people, clearly it would be racist.

But they feel like they could say the problem is all the white people and it's not racist.

Well, that's an easy test.

And for us, the same thing is you should change, we should change it to whether it's Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton or whoever it is.

Clearly, we would be upset about this.

And I appeal not to look back at Donald Trump because you can do that easily.

And you might say, well, I like Donald Trump.

They're doing a lot of good things.

Just think of this going forward.

Do we want this precedent going forward?

Forget Donald Trump.

Forget Bill Clinton.

Forget Barack Obama.

Do we want

this precedent to be acceptable?

Because we don't have the media sources.

They've got all the good ones.

They can do this a lot better than we can do this.

Paying off media sources to do favors for them is not a precedent that I necessarily want to continue.

They already get favorable treatment.

But, you know, I mean, you know, National Inquirer, what do you want to say, us weekly?

If there was a scandal with the next presidential candidate who's a guy, Eric Holder runs for president.

Gary Hart, it was the National Enquirer, wasn't it?

That did Gary Hart?

It was.

So it was the National Enquirer that got Gary Hart.

But that changed the

history.

John Edwards, too.

Like, if Edwards had paid several hundred thousand dollars to the national inquirer so that and so they not only didn't run the story but they actually went out to to get the story so they could hide it like actually overtly went out to get the story pay the person and then hide it intentionally we would have been really upset and rightfully so.

It's okay to be upset about these things and still say that, you know what, I like a good

Neil Gorsuch.

It's still all okay.

So now here's here is the one difference.

Because I agree with you.

But there's two things that come to mind.

One, John Edwards was

talking about himself like he was just a good guy and a great saint and everything else.

Nobody believes that about.

People believe that about John Edwards.

People thought he was a good guy.

Look at him with his wife and he's wonderful and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

No, he wasn't.

No, he wasn't.

He was a bad guy.

Donald Trump, nobody looks at him like he's faithful to Melania.

I mean, I feel.

That's true.

I mean, I think a lot of his supporters do look at him that way.

At least they

say they are.

They are intentionally blind.

They have intentionally blinded themselves.

I don't think there's anybody who thinks that.

I mean, look, anybody who writes about his marriage, while I was walking down the aisle, I looked at Melania and thought, I'm already bored with this.

What am I doing?

And you said he, man.

That was in his pre-nup thing, wasn't it?

Remember, we played the audio of that.

He was like, you have to have a pre-nup because I know my marriage to Melania will eventually end.

Yes.

So, I mean, that's just who he is.

It's just who he is.

It's not a surprise.

Now,

the media part of that is a little bit, I mean, look, again, he, the things, his private life, with who he's sleeping with, is something for him and Melania to sort out, right?

The fact that he's telling us that he didn't do it

is of mild interest.

Like, he should, he shouldn't be lying to us about these things, just like any president should be lying.

But the idea that a president or a presidential candidate a few weeks before the election has a potentially damaging story that he takes money and gives to a media organization so that they capture the story and make sure the voters don't know about it.

I don't see how you don't think that that's at least a real problem.

I do.

Whether you like the guy or not.

I found it a problem when the LA Times hid it about Obama.

Yeah, that's a good idea.

And

when the photographer hid the picture of

Louis Farrakhan and Obama together.

And that was all done without payment.

Yeah.

And that's why this isn't about Donald Trump.

No, no, it's not.

It's about the American people.

And about what we've come to accept now.

Yeah.

And about the press.

And the American people.

To me, it's more about the right than it is anything else.

Anybody who comes.

How we've changed.

Anybody who comes to me and says, hey, I will buy that from you.

No.

No.

You're not buying that from me.

Friend or foe, I either find it worth running

or not.

It's either I find it to be true and worthy of running or not.

Of course.

Of course.

I mean, the National Inquirer is a terrible media organization, but you're a terrible media organization if you're not making decisions based on that.

Right.

And maybe that's why, maybe they, we don't know, but maybe that's why there's no record of the payment.

Maybe they were like, I mean, we may be the National Inquirer, but I mean, we're not whore.

It's possible.

I mean, Pat, wait, wait, wait.

There's, there's one more thing on the

real question.

Pat,

the three of us,

we all feel the same way about Donald Trump.

We've always felt about Donald Trump as a person.

His policies, I like some of them.

I don't like some of them.

They're better than I expected, though.

A A lot better than I expected.

And

not like by a little bit.

I mean,

yards and yards and yards better.

Okay, so,

but we still feel the same way.

I still think he's bad for civilization as we know it.

You mean as far as like civil politics,

not civilization necessarily like for the civil part of civilization,

our society, okay?

Being civil to one another, okay?

But that's not all him.

That's us and everybody else.

We're all in on that.

Lots of people involved in that problem.

But the one thing that has crossed my mind over and over and over again is

live in the world as it is.

Deal with the world as it is, not the world as you wish it to be.

It's be in the world, not of the world.

So I can sit here and go, okay, well, I don't agree with this.

I don't like his behavior.

I think he's bad for society, and I say those things.

However,

that's me.

That's not the world I live in.

The world I'm living in doesn't want to hear any of that.

Well, okay, well, I'll attempt to say that from time to time to remind people, this isn't good.

But neither is the other option.

that we have on the other side that is postmodernism that's tearing us apart as well.

And this guy has done some good things.

That's me living in the world as it is without, I think, compromise.

Is that accurate?

I think so.

I think so.

And it's what we said at the beginning when he was elected.

We're going to give him a chance.

He's the president.

We're going to call balls and strikes as we see him.

And I'm not going to call a strike a ball and a ball a strike.

I'm not going to do it.

If I see it on the outside corner and it's over the plate, I'm going to call it a strike.

And I think we've been pretty consistent in doing that.

Haven't we?

We've tried.

We've tried.

I don't know any other way to do it because I, you know, I don't either.

But it, you, I just don't, you know, we can't.

This world currently makes us feel like you're a sellout one way or the other.

You're a traitor one way or the other, no matter what you say.

No, I'm just dealing with the world as it is

and trying to hold on to my own personal belief, but the rest of the world isn't going along with my personal belief.

That's okay.

That's okay.

I'll continue to live what I live and believe what I believe, but I will deal with the analysis of the world as it is.

That's one thing the media just cannot do.

No.

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They're forcing Yosemite to close.

Are Sequoias at Yosemite?

Do you know?

They are.

It looks like it.

Yeah.

I don't know if they are.

Look up if they're fire retardant.

These giant sequoias out by San Francisco, these trees are amazing.

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And the reason why they're so old is because their sap is actually fire resistant.

And so

you don't burn the giant sequoias,

which is an amazing feature

for,

obviously for a forest.

Are the redwoods this way?

I've never seen the redwoods.

Are they fire resistant too?

Oh, good.

Thank God.

We pray for the people in California.

We pray for the land of California that these wildfires can get under control.

And we kind of also pray that maybe some of the leaders in California get under control and

start to see the light

before the whole place burns down, metaphorically and literally.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.