'Taking The Bad with Good'? - 7/16/18

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Well, it's not just the Twitter mobs, the leftist extremists, and the flagrant fourth wave feminists who want ICE abolished.

As we have seen, there's now a growing number of politicians who want to see it abolished as well.

Q Alejandro Alvarez,

32 years.

In his 32 years alive, he has managed to cultivate his brand as a serial immigration violator.

He has been deported 11 times, and now he's facing deportation again.

This time

because he, quote, slashed his wife with a chainsaw, end quote.

His wife is now in the hospital, and she is expected to survive.

Around 3 p.m.

last Wednesday, police arrived at Alejandro's house.

When they arrived, they found his wife suffering from traumatic physical injuries believed to have been inflicted by a chainsaw.

The couple's three children were huddled in fear inside the home.

Is ice coming, Daddy?

Or were they possibly afraid of, where's ice?

Daddy's got a chainsaw.

Alejandro's wife was rushed to a nearby trauma center for emergency surgery.

He fled the scene of the crime, but eventually hauled in by police and booked under suspicion of attempted murder, child endangerment, hidden run, and grand theft auto.

But that's it.

Now, it sounds kind of me like the kind of guy that, man,

Ellis Island would have let in, right?

ICE spokesperson Laura Haley noted that immigration officers I'm quoting have lodged a detainer against Alvarez requesting that local authorities notify immigration and customs enforcement before his release

wait what

let me read it again Immigration officers have lodged a detainer against Alvarez, requesting that local authorities notify immigration and customs enforcement before his release to allow them to take him into custody.

So, this is the new reality, America.

The immigration agency has to ask for permission to file requests to have legal immigrants who are guilty of crimes with a chainsaw

so they can deal with it.

Luckily for, well, not the American people, or really

his wife or family,

but lucky for him, he lives in Los Angeles, a sanctuary city.

So, you know, he'll probably get another pass and be out on our streets clipping the hedges or people in no time.

It's Monday, July 16th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

And all is right with the world.

Hello, America, and welcome to the program.

Say hello to my good friend, Mr.

Pat Gray.

Hello, Pat.

Hello, Glenn.

Good.

Filling in for Stu.

How was your weekend?

That was good.

Yeah, you were filling in for Stu on his weekend.

Yes.

Okay, good.

Yes.

Yes, all right.

I was.

If you get anything out of his house, he's been gone now for weeks.

Some of the more valuable things.

More valuable things?

Good.

Yeah.

So that Alejandro thing doesn't bother you, does it?

Not at all.

Yeah.

No, I don't want to see him separated from his family.

You can't separate him from his family.

Amen.

Amen.

He may have wanted to separate his wife from her head.

Right.

You may have.

You know, or her arm.

Right.

You know, but you can't separate him from his children.

Not at all.

How about this one?

This one bother you at all.

In Alabama,

a 13-year-old was found dead in a wooded area last month

after she was beheaded.

She was beheaded

because apparently she saw two men stab her grandmother to death.

The grisly details of Maria Lopez and her slaying came out during a preliminary hearing of Yanni Martinez Aguilar.

Aguilar, 26, and Israel Gonzalez-Palomino,

he's 34, are each charged with two counts of capital murder in the deaths of Lopez and her

49-year-old grandmother and legal guardian.

One of them is also charged with possession of methamphetamines.

Members of the middle school family

wept as an investigator testified about the death of the mother and the child.

Apparently, Aguilar Aguilar told detectives that Mendoza was involved

with a cartel, the

Sinola.

Sinaloa.

Sinaloa cartel.

Do you know anything about them?

What about them?

It's, I think, the second biggest cartel in Mexico.

Let's see, you're wrong again.

One of the most powerful trafficking.

Second.

Anyway,

they came up here from Mexico, and

they went to Georgia where they picked up a quarter kilo of meth for the cartel.

Along the way, something went wrong, and Palomino became suspicious that Mendoza and Garcia, also tied to the cartel, might be setting him up.

So

the...

They ended up at grandma's house.

They found a text sent during the drug run in Georgia, which asked an unknown woman to pick up her grandmother, who was Palomino's wife, because she feared that she and her grandmother were in danger.

On June 4th, the men woke Mendoza at their Huntsville home and told her that they were taking her and Lopez, who had special needs, someplace safe.

Well, that someplace safe was heaven.

They stabbed the grandmother multiple times,

leaving her for dead.

Lopez, who witnessed her grandmother's slaying, was taken to a wooded area two and a half miles from the cemetery,

where one of the guys said,

the other guy forced me to kill her.

He apparently took a knife to this child of special needs

and sawed her head off.

It apparently took some time.

Good, decent, hard-working family people.

You know?

Now, I don't know.

Maybe the

13-year-old and grandmother were not here legally either.

But I don't put them in the same category as I do the people were sawing heads off.

Now, maybe grandma was involved in the drug deal as well, which it looks like.

So do we care less about this story?

How can somebody be beheaded in this country?

How can someone,

a 13-year-old girl of special needs,

have her head sawed off.

And that doesn't make the news.

How is that possible?

You have to have a pretty firm agenda not to report on that.

Because look at the things they report on.

I mean, if this fits their agenda, they're all over it and it's everywhere.

But this doesn't fit the agenda.

So they'll just talk about ripping babies out of the arms of their mothers instead.

Yeah.

Which Hillary did again

this weekend.

She found it outrageous.

Outrageous that this administration is ripping children out of the arms of their parents.

Really?

Because you didn't find it outrageous under Obama.

No.

You didn't find it outrageous at all.

When they had double the numbers of children ripped out of the arms.

Right.

And now, you know, did you see the latest that what they're outraged by?

They're outraged that the administration has not gotten all of the parents and

put all the kids back together with their parents yet.

Yeah, and did you see why the administration

actually listed some reasons?

Yeah, I saw them.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Start with your ridiculous reasons.

Well,

some of them were child abusers, which they can't release them back to, child abusers.

Parents' rights.

Some of them.

Parents' rights.

Okay.

Can't separate families.

They can't separate families.

Some of them were already had left the country and so were no longer around.

Some of them had felony charges pending against them.

I mean, there's on and on and on.

So the 50 that they were able to find the parents for, and there was no issue, they did return to the parents.

But there was another 50 or so that they couldn't find them or they were child abusers.

Yeah, suddenly, suddenly,

suddenly the left doesn't care about the home situation.

Suddenly, the parents, no matter who they are, no matter what they've done, I thought it took a community.

I thought it took a whole village.

Aren't we supposed to all be someone else's parent?

Here's an administration that has children separated from their parents.

We don't even know if they were being used in child trafficking.

We can't find the parents.

Now, let me ask you this, Pat,

your child's missing.

Your child has been taken by the U.S.

government.

You were here illegally, but you were a good family person.

You were just a good family person.

You know, you were just coming here for

the access to Orange Julius because you heard that we had more of them because they've all gone out of business in Mexico.

Okay.

And you are Julius, your name is Julius, and you're like, I made the best Orange Juliuses, and I'm going to be able to be the king of the Orange Julius,

you know, mecca here in America.

You've been lied to, but you're a good person.

When you hear that your child is by law to be returned to you,

are you hard to find?

No.

How?

Well, I mean, I'd probably

get my child back, and then we would just disappear into the country.

Yeah, no, but I mean.

This is so often happening.

Yeah, but I mean, if you were, I mean, if your child was lost, how could the United States of America find you?

How could they find me?

Yeah.

I mean, you wouldn't call them

or text message.

Orange Julius?

Well, if they knew about the Orange Julius thing, maybe.

But they don't know about that.

They don't know about that.

Would you make yourself hard to be found by the government?

Or would you be calling ICE from wherever it is?

I want my child back.

You'd want your child back.

Yes, I'd be calling.

I'd be calling.

It's ridiculous.

It is ridiculous to assume that

if you are separated from your child and the United States government can't find you.

You don't make a phone call?

Yeah, I don't.

It is strange, isn't it?

It is a little strange that you would be considered a parent worthy going back to.

But you can't bring that up because that's hateful, I guess.

I know, I know, I know, I know.

It's like, you know, these ridiculous stories.

Oh, somebody's going to come across the border, you know, and cut somebody's head off.

I know.

It's crazy.

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So the slaying of

this 13-year-old girl who is handicapped that came out

June 14th.

So two days ago.

No.

This happened.

It's a month and two days ago.

You know, why you always nitpick?

Why you always have to nitpick?

June, July, it's the same thing.

Two days ago,

this happened, and now you're trying to make it into a big deal that nobody has reported on this, you know, in two days.

You know, news doesn't travel that fast.

Here's this 13-year-old kid whose

head was sawed off in Alabama, sawed off in a cemetery.

Where's the news on this?

Now,

you know,

I know what you're thinking.

Here's two businessmen who are just trying to make ends meet, who are just trying to protect another small independent businessman and his

cartel

and they...

His mid-size cartel.

mid-size it's not even it's not even the biggest biggest it's a mid-size cartel

and this girl she i mean she obviously she was handicapped she didn't have any real

quality of life

did she she didn't have any quality of life

I mean, if we could have just, if we could have just had free universal abortions and even,

you know, the ability to judge a child, you know, you're born with handicap, you know, problems.

We probably should eliminate you then too, because you're going to have no quality of life.

So

what we're really saying here is

because it's taken a month and two days before I've even seen this story,

are we as a society saying that she, that her life didn't matter?

Because that's what it seems like.

A thirteen-year-old girl can have her head sawed off

by a drug cartel in Alabama,

and we don't

hear about that.

Does her life

have

no value?

Did her life have any meaning?

Her name was Maria Lopez.

I think her life had meaning.

If we remember her.

Let me switch topics.

What is it with Elon Musk and the Thai

cave dweller heroes.

Is it ill-advised tweets, maybe?

Maybe.

But it's deeper than that.

There's like, he's like, I don't know what's going on with this.

If you didn't know, he tweeted this weekend that one of the, quote, heroes was, quote, most likely a child molester.

Well, he said he was a pedophile.

A pedo-guy.

A pedo-guy.

Okay, so he was a basically he's a pedophile.

A pedophile.

That's what he was implying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's no doubt about it.

And when he was called on it, he said,

I'll bet you a dollar with my signature on it that it's true.

Okay.

And it seems to have started because this guy called into question his submarine that he brought over there.

Yeah.

And the guy said that it was just a publicity stunt on the part of Elon Musk and that had no chance of ever working out.

And

I think that pissed off Elon a little bit.

Yeah.

And so he called him a pedo gun.

You might not want to jump right to

that pedophile and maybe

not want to jump right to that, Elon.

It might be hazardous to your bank account, just slightly.

Back in just a second.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Welcome to the program.

We're glad you're here.

There's a couple of things that I

want to point out.

Apparently, Prince Charles and Prince William refused to attend a reception held by Queen Elizabeth for Donald Trump.

Refused.

This is a highly unusual occurrence.

People who watch these kinds of things,

wow, they need a life, but the people who who watch these kinds of things say they can't remember the last time that the Queen went something like this unaccompanied.

She was left alone with the Trumps, and God only knows what could have happened.

But

apparently, the prior engagements, Prince Charles had a police event, and William took part in a polo match.

Oh, well, obviously then, you can't.

I mean, you can't interrupt your polo match for the President of the United States, neither of the free world.

No.

I mean, these are big lefties.

You know they hate him

with passion.

Well, I mean,

between the Duke of Edinburgh, who is absolutely, who believes literally that people are akin to a virus,

I mean, you know, they're big-time lefties.

Big-time lefties.

It's amazing to me how Britain has treated this president when they fell all over Barack Obama.

They loved Barack Obama.

Barack Obama

hated the British.

Kenya was a British colony, and his family, up to and including his dad, infected him with an incredible, deep-seated hatred for colonialism and for the British Empire.

He hated the British.

One of his first acts was to send back the bust of Winston Churchill.

Yeah, in an incredible slap in the face.

I mean, the press is making such a big deal out out of,

oh my gosh, look at what Donald Trump said about Theresa May and

Brexit.

Yeah, yeah.

You remember that Donald Trump gave the prime minister the bust back and said, here, take this with you.

You remember that?

I mean, that's like that couldn't, there couldn't be a bigger slam than that.

This is on global policy.

That was on, I hate you and your customs and your people yeah your history and yet they fell all over him yeah all over they they just invited the Obamas to the royal wedding the the Harry and Markle thing uh geez it's agonizing

whereas you know Trump I mean he's

he's probably a fan he's I'm sure he's a fan he's yes he's indelicate he

There's maybe some things he shouldn't have said to the British press as he's coming into the country to spend time with Teresa May.

Right.

But I think at least he's a friend to the Brits.

Yeah, I mean, and he's got gold in his house.

They have gold in their house.

Right.

They have a lot in common.

A lot in common.

They all have those really uncomfortable old chairs.

I mean, you know, you look at Donald, think of Donald Trump's house.

And think, is there a chair in that house that you're like, oh, man, I could just sit away in that chair and read.

Not one.

Nope.

Not one.

Think of Buckingham Palace.

Same thing.

Same thing.

Same thing.

There's not a chair in either of their house.

They have a lot in common.

Where Barack Obama, what did he have?

And did he even really have that?

Or did he get that from his dad?

The hatred.

I think it was one of the dreams from his father.

The hatred of the British.

His father fought hard against the British Empire.

You can kind of understand that.

But my father fought hard for the use of real butter.

And

I got that from a very similar situation.

I got that from my dad.

This love for butter from my dad.

You got that right from your dad.

Right from my dad.

He was like, no margarine, not in this house, not in our bakery.

We use real ingredients.

And that was a long time ago, too, when people thought it was a damage.

He took a stand.

He took a stand.

It was powerful.

And it was.

I know you better, but some people might think you're mocking.

But I know you understand.

For instance,

imagine a world without colonialism.

I can imagine that.

That's right.

Okay.

Yeah.

Imagine a world without butter.

No, that's inconceivable.

No,

whose dad was more right?

Yours.

Yours was.

I mean, and colonialism is just kind of going out.

It's just out of fashion.

Butter,

they tried to shove it out.

They did.

They won't.

And it's made

a really strong comeback.

It really has.

Even though it's not really good for you, we now acknowledge it's at least better for you than the other thing they came up with.

The original thing.

It's like if you have,

think of bread.

Good, fresh bread right out of the oven, right?

It's good.

It's delicious.

Do you eat it if there's no butter in the house?

I do not.

I do not.

And I go get butter.

I go get it.

Get butter back to the house.

Bread is nothing more than a butter delivery system.

That's That's all it is.

That's all it is.

Yes.

Yes.

So some would add jam as well.

It's a butter and jam delivery system.

Well, if you want to get fancy.

Yeah.

If you want to get fancy.

So I think you're right.

I think your dad was smarter than Barack Obama's dad

and more relevant, frankly.

I think so.

I think so.

You know, you got to remember, what are you passing on to your kids?

A hatred of colonialism or a love of butter?

which

which is more important i say love over hate every time every time love over hate love over hate

did you see that they're really upset about uh donald trump sitting in winston churchill's chair yes he did look arrogant in that chair but he doesn't have to look like donald trump i know That's what I'm looking at.

Show me a picture.

It is.

You know, resting, nasty face.

Yes.

He has

resting, arrogant face.

He does.

He always looks arrogant.

He does.

Did you see him sitting in that chair?

How arrogant?

No, I looked at him like, no, it looked like Donald Trump.

And the headline was, how dare you?

Since when do you people care about Winston Churchill?

You hated him.

You hated him before the war.

You hated him kind of during the war.

And you really hated him after the war.

You tossed him out twice.

Twice you tossed him out of parliament because, oh, I don't know, he had a thing against the Nazis and you didn't want to hear it.

Then during the war, oh, please save us, Winston.

Oh, please save us.

The minute, I mean, almost to the minute.

Yeah.

The minute the war was over, they voted him out.

See ya.

It's incredible.

And now they're all indignant because Donald Trump sat in his chair.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Don't make us come over there and dog slap you again because we'll do it.

We'll do it.

You want us to give you something to cry about?

We'll give you something to cry.

Give you something to cry about.

Are you concerned at all that I'm that we're both kind of mad at England today,

but anxious to see what happens with Vladimir Putin?

I think that might be a concern.

It could be a concern that we're like, that everybody in America, well, half the country, half the country is.

By the way, did you see, speaking of half of the country, the New York Times.

Did you see what the New York Times said about Donald Trump's meeting with NATO?

No.

Oh, I have to.

Where is it?

I have it here someplace.

Oh, I have to, I have to, I have to read it to you exactly.

You know what?

Let me take a break.

I'll come back.

I have to read it exactly as written from the New York Times.

How was Donald Trump's trip with NATO?

How'd that work out?

How do you think the New York Times reported that?

The way you're setting it up now, I'm thinking maybe in a positive light.

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We'll go to that here in a second.

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So here is the editorial from the New York Times Editorial Board.

This is their editorial.

Ready?

Trump got from NATO everything Obama ever asked for.

Wow.

Let me quote the New York Times.

Now that the smoke has cleared from the NATO summit meeting, the most tangible result is apparent.

President Trump advanced President Barack Obama's initiative to keep the Allies on track to shoulder a more equitable share of NATO's costs.

Mr.

Trump even signed on to a tough statement directed at Russia.

For once he saw eye to eye with his predecessor.

For once, for once he saw eye to eye.

But his predecessor couldn't get it done, could he?

That's amazing.

It's almost impossible to believe.

Are you sure that's not some satirical website claiming to be the New York Times?

No, it's New York Times.

Tremendous progress has been made.

Everyone agreed to substantially up their commitment.

They're going to up it at levels they've never seen before, Trump said.

Commitments were made.

The commitment was at 2%.

Ultimately, that will be going up quite a bit higher than that.

They didn't exactly agree to four, right?

Which is what he was asking.

He was asking for 4%.

Right.

And I think they're going to do three or four.

2% is the deal.

Yeah.

I personally just think, all right, well, we'll be at 2%.

Just, why are we doing eight?

Why are we doing five?

Why are we doing three and a half?

It's two.

They've never paid two.

We've never paid less than three and a half.

The contract says two.

We should pay two.

We do the same thing with the UN.

We put that whole load, too.

And that one,

I know what we get from NATO.

That one, I just don't know what we get.

Completely worthless.

There was also an interview with Donald Trump.

And, you know, last week, last week he said some good things.

And

I thought maybe,

you know, he was.

We applauded him for what he said about Putin.

You got to take the good with the bad, or you got to take the bad with the good.

And there's been some good.

Last week, there was some real good.

Today, this has come out.

Listen to this.

The Russians who were indicted, would you ask Putin to

send them here?

Well, I might.

I hadn't thought of that, but I certainly will be asking about it.

Maybe you don't volunteer that either.

I hadn't thought of that.

I hadn't thought of that.

What the guy thought of that?

Your Justice Department.

On Friday, they just indicted these people.

On Friday.

Did you know that?

Strange.

Yeah, that's really strange.

Let's keep that in our inside, please.

Yeah, that I hadn't thought of that.

Indictment.

Who's been?

What is

it?

I thought this was during the Obama administration.

They were doing whatever it was during the Obama administration.

Stop.

This is confusing to me.

This is the Obama administration.

This happened during the Obama.

Yes.

And you found out about it during your administration.

I mean, it's like, hey, they were doing that then, not now.

Yet, no, they're still doing it.

They're still doing it.

And I heard that they were trying, or people were trying, to hack into the RNC too, the Republican National Committee.

Wait.

But we had much better defenses.

I've been told that by a number of people.

He's heard it.

He's been told that by a number of people.

Wait, wait, wait.

There was the barista who told him that.

7-Eleven clerk said it.

Oh, my God.

I mean, where

I love how he just threw this stuff.

I heard.

I heard.

Mr.

President.

Nobody has access to more information.

You can get all information.

You know, I heard from CNBC.

I heard from the guy who opened my car door the other day.

Mr.

President, do you get a briefing?

Do you get, I know you get one.

I know you get one.

And unlike your predecessor, you attend them.

Are you listening?

Again, you take the bad with the good.

Yes, yes.

There were some good last nights.

They had much better defenses, so they couldn't.

I think the DNC should be ashamed of themselves for allowing themselves to be hacked.

They had bad defenses, and they were able to be hacked.

But I heard they were trying to hack the Republicans, too.

But, and this may be wrong, but they had much stronger defenses.

Wait.

And it may be wrong.

It may be wrong.

Wait, what?

Why are you saying it?

What is happening?

Mr.

President, you have the NSA and the CIA and the FBI.

You've got access.

You could call them at any time.

I can't.

You can.

I've heard, and it might be wrong.

No.

No.

Who's your biggest competitor?

Your biggest foe globally right now.

Well, I think we have a lot of foes.

I think the European Union is a foe.

What they mean to us in trade.

No, no, no.

You wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe.

Oh, boy.

Oh, no.

You can't call Russia a competitor and the European Union a foe.

No, honey.

No.

No, no.

Again, you take the bad with the good.

Let's see what happens today because he's with Putin today.

It might be good.

Maybe we get out of Syria today.

Who knows?

Wouldn't that be nice?

Who knows?

Back in a minute.

Glenn, back.

92% of the world's nuclear weapons are in two countries, 92%, the U.S.

and Russia.

And as I'm speaking right now, the leaders of both countries are sitting down at a table and trying to figure out how to coexist with one another.

Sounds like it's kind of an important thing to do from time to time.

The media will, you know, slap fight

and slapfight each other to death today in an attempt to turn the Trump Putin summit partisan.

But what's happening in Helsinki today is probably the least partisan thing happening anywhere right now.

Like anywhere, like as in the entire planet, there's nothing more important that may be happening.

If there was ever a time to not be partisan,

this is it.

Do any Democrat, Republican, any independent, mainstream media,

anybody who's looking to turn this into a gotcha political narrative, what the hell is wrong with you?

Seriously.

What is wrong with you?

We know who Russia is.

We know what Vladimir Putin is.

He's a stone-cold killer.

Now, the president may be going into this naively.

He may not be.

He may be going in with, I don't know what his intent is.

But I will tell you,

out of all the things, and I've thought a lot, out of all the things I've ever thought of Donald Trump, I've never thought he didn't like America.

He wasn't rooting for us to win.

Now, the last time the U.S.

and the Russians sat down for a summit was 2010, eight years ago.

And here's a small rundown of how cold our relationship has been since then.

Russia still has troops in Georgia after their invasion during Obama's first term.

Keep in mind, Georgia was a country considering joining NATO, not anymore.

That invasion was Russia's coming out party.

It was a warning to the world that things were about to change, and they were just getting started.

They then wanted to annex, steal, invade Crimea from Ukraine.

They'd also invade, destabilize, and wage war in eastern Ukraine.

That war is still going on.

But rarely does the media talk about it anymore.

And then there's the backdrop to that invasion and silent war.

The accusations from the Russians that the United States deliberately encouraged the fall of the Ukrainian president and government.

Meanwhile, Russia continues supplying troops and equipment to their side.

And we're now providing military training and anti-tank missiles to our side.

And Ukraine is just one of the proxy wars currently being fought between the two nuclear powers.

Syria is the other.

First, you don't fight.

Then you argue.

Then things get nasty.

Then you start to fight proxy wars.

We're in two of them.

The next step,

there's only two.

You back away and you stop the proxy war.

Or you go to out-and-out war where you're slapping each other,

not through other parties.

In April, we admitted to killing nearly 200 Russians in that conflict.

So where do we go here?

Where do we go?

Over the past four years, over 700 Russian citizens and companies have been sanctioned.

35 diplomats have been declared persona nongrada.

Two Russian diplomat compounds have been closed, one consulate, and two diplomatic annexes.

Oh, and Russia has ejected over 700 U.S.

diplomatic staff.

I thought the media

didn't have a problem with Russia.

I thought the media was always for anything,

anything Russia wants to do.

Let's just not get into a war with them.

No, not today.

Between the cyber attacks and indictments on Russian intelligence personnel, tensions have never been higher.

Russia currently maintains an arsenal of 6,600 nuclear weapons.

We have 6,450.

The next closest nuke holder, France, with 300.

China with 280.

It's not even close.

Between Washington and Moscow, there are over 13,000 nuclear weapons and they're pointed at each other.

So today could we today

stop with a partisan politics.

The two toughest kids on the block just sat down for a sit-down.

You know what I'm saying?

A little sit-down.

I think maybe, perhaps, the rest of us in the neighborhood should all be praying for some sort of success.

It's Monday, July 16th.

You're listening to the Glen Beck program.

A couple weeks ago, we had Selena Zito on and Brad Todd.

They authored the book, The Great Revolt, Inside the Populist Coalition, Reshaping American Politics.

And I learned so much about the

supporters of Donald Trump that you just don't hear anywhere, anywhere.

For instance, a good number of Trump supporters are what used to be called Reagan Democrats.

These are Trump Democrats.

These are the people that voted Democrat, voted for Barack Obama, and have had enough and have left their party to come over and vote for Donald Trump.

And they are very vocal supporters.

How come we don't hear about that?

Why is it just the evil Republicans that you hear of?

And a lot of Trump supports coming not from Republicans, but from the people who have never voted, haven't voted since Ross Perot.

How come we didn't hear that?

Brad Todd joins us now.

He's the guy who did all of the research.

Hello, Brad.

How are you?

I'm great, Glenn.

Good morning.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, so I just wanted to drill down a little bit more into some of the research and what you found so you can kind of help us out and set the record straight on

who is

the Trump coalition?

Sure.

Well, we, you know, we conducted our research both quantitatively and qualitatively.

We did a survey of 2,000 Trump voters in the five Midwestern states that flipped, geographically stratified to reflect the actual distribution of Trump's vote.

And then we traveled.

You know, Selena, as you know, is famous for taking back roads and living on the road in small-town America and industrial America

and interviewed hundreds of people.

End up with the profiles of about 24 people who we say represent seven archetypes of

the Trump coalition.

Now, they're not every person in the Trump coalition represented in one of those seven archetypes, archetypes, but most of them are.

And some of them are people, like you say, who came off the sidelines.

We call them the shock troops of American democracy, those voters who only get interested once in the blue moon, but when they do, they radically change the composition of the electorate.

And that happened in Trump's case, both in the Republican nominating process and in the general election.

You know, in Pennsylvania, which has a closed primary, you have to change your registration to participate in either side's the other side's primary.

You had 30,000 voters change their registration to go from Democrat to Republican to go vote in the Republican primary.

Well, Donald Trump ends up only winning Pennsylvania by 70-something thousand voters in the general.

So presumably, most of that 30,000 group of voters who were coming in to help him in the primary stuck with him in the general.

You know, these things make real, real differences numerically.

You also, you know, we find in the book, if you pick up the book for the Great Revolution, you'll see some people who, one woman who didn't register to vote until she was 70.

Trump was the first candidate for president she's ever voted for.

It didn't mean she didn't care about national affairs.

It's just she didn't think that anyone was different enough to make a difference in politics.

And that element is often lost of this voter that Trump brought in who, and by the way, those voters are among the least ideological of Trump's coalition, the least conservative.

They're the most secular in Trump's coalition.

They're people who saw in him something that was different from most most people in politics.

And, you know, I read media accounts all the time, Glenn of editorials, who say, oh, we need more people to vote.

We need higher participation in elections.

Well, in 2016, you got it.

What percentage of Trump voters is that?

I think it's about six based on our look at the data.

Five, somewhere in the

obviously we can't be quite that precise, but somewhere in the 5% to 7% range.

But that's a pretty large portion of an electorate in election

where Donald Trump only wins those states in the Midwest by just a handful of votes.

Michigan flips and Wisconsin flips with 10,000 votes.

Pennsylvania flips with 70,000 votes.

So

5% to 7% is a pretty big number.

You said that this new populism, if you will, is actually a movement against bigness.

What does that mean?

Yes.

Well, you know,

there was a time in American politics when populism meant you were against Wall Street and big economic powers.

That's the way we've understood populism both in the 1800s and again in the 20s.

That's different now because government now is just as large a threat to people's everyday lives as the big economic powers are.

In fact, big tech, the tech industry, that has so much of our information that sells it, doesn't tell us how it's selling it, doesn't tell us how it's monetizing, what it knows about us.

The tech industry is also a threat.

The media, which has become so homogenous at the mainstream level, and you can't find a newsroom that's ideologically diverse in America anymore.

And so

therefore,

today, the proper understanding of populism in today's culture is not just the skepticism of big corporations.

And by the way, Trump's voters were skeptical of big corporations.

Three-fourths of them say that big corporations don't care about their what happens to the little guy when they make their decisions.

That's a pretty high skepticism for the free market parties.

But you also have big populism also, I mean populism also incorporates skepticism of big government, big tech, big entertainment, big media.

And that's why the coalitions have shifted.

When populism was only a skepticism of large corporations, it fit well within the Democratic coalition, especially when that coalition was dedicated to economic equality, ostensibly.

The politics of Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, sort of the New Deal, Fair Deal Democratic Party, where it's very focused on economics and very focused on the working class.

Today's Democratic Party is not focused on economic equality at all.

It's all about cultural, multicultural militancy.

And so that leaves little room for populism's basis, which is the look out for the little guy against the big guy.

But it's also now incompatible with the Democratic sort of homage to big government, big media, big entertainment, big tech.

Those are all Democratic constituencies.

So you can't quite be a populist and sit there.

I just wrote a new book that's coming out in September

called Addicted to Outrage.

And in it, I talk about multiculturalism that everybody is being called a racist today.

And it's not racism.

It's multiculturalism.

We don't have a problem with different races

as much as we do.

I mean, I can't say that, you know, we don't, there's no one in America that's racist.

Of course, that's not true.

But that's not the overwhelming problem.

The real problem is this multiculturalism where we are dividing and dividing and dividing into all of these little groups.

And a lot of them,

by dividing us like this, means we're losing the American culture.

And once you say that, then you're called a racist again.

Is this what you found?

There's something to that.

It also goes to the thought police notion.

You know, the notion that the Democrats now believe that free speech and freedom of religion are counter to their agenda.

Then I say not all.

We lose you?

Hello?

Whoa, that was weird.

Oh, my gosh.

It's AI.

It's taken over.

We thought we were talking to Brad Todd.

We're not.

We were talking to somebody in big tech,

an AI in big tech.

That's clearly what happened.

Either that or there was some sort of glitch.

If he doesn't call back, we're going to take a break.

If he doesn't call back, it's Mark Zuckerberg behind the whole thing.

So there you go.

You got that.

We'll get back with Brad here in just a second.

What are Americans thinking today?

And I'd love to see if he did any research at all on how Americans relate to Vladimir Putin as President President Trump is with Putin at this hour.

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Talking to Brad Todd, he is the co-author of the book, The Great Revolt, The Populist Coalition Reshaping American Politics.

He says, surprisingly, I'm being sarcastic there,

that

the Trump coalition is not who the mainstream media wants you to believe they are.

Welcome back to the program, Brad.

Brad,

my perception of what's gone on the last two years is that Republicans and Democrats have just switched places.

Republicans, who were always leery and nervous about Putin and Russia, are now completely fine because it seems that their perception is Trump is fine with them.

Whereas Democrats, who continually said, yeah, he's not a a threat.

That's old school.

The 80s called and wants their policy back.

They're now out of their minds afraid of Putin.

And they think we should.

I mean, is that an accurate portrayal of what's happened?

Is it just the R and the D that matter and no principles anymore?

No, you know what I think it is?

I think it's differing perceptions of Trump and different trust levels of Trump.

There are a lot of Republicans who think that Trump is just such an America firster.

You know, Trump resists almost all multilateral alliances.

And so, therefore, they then give him plenty of rope to interact on the world stage and sort of what they would perceive as negotiate,

sort of move our posture for purposes of getting something better.

I think that meanwhile, Democrats wouldn't trust Trump to make a beat of butter sandwich.

And so, therefore,

much less negotiate with another world leader.

And so, I think it's really not really changed perceptions of Russia.

Most Republicans, most conservatives, most populists I've talked to still believe that Vladimir Putin's if you'd be bullied.

He's a ruthless guy who doesn't have America's interest at heart.

And I think Republican voters will cheer hardline policies on Russia.

But I think that they also will give President Trump an ample amount of rope

to maneuver.

How much, Brad, how much of

I explained this on Friday as the way the O.J.

Simpson trial went down.

Me as a white man, I didn't understand the frustration of

fair trials or the system just so corrupt.

I didn't understand that.

And so when I saw, you know, African Americans celebrating his release, I couldn't understand it at all.

Now they're saying, you know, African Americans, you've pulled them now.

And they're like, oh, yeah, O.J.

Simpson, absolutely guilty.

But

they were not rooting for him.

They were rooting for anybody to beat the system.

Is that

does that play a role into the Trump voter now?

There is no question about it.

You know, as you mentioned earlier, a lot of Trump voters voted for President Obama.

In our survey of Trump voters in the five Rust Belt states in the Great Revolt, 21% of the Trump voters in those Rust Belts, five Rust Belt states voted for Obama, and 9% voted for him twice.

Oh, wow.

And by the way, he couldn't win without it.

You go look at Barack Obama's margins in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

There were more than enough Obama voters there for Hillary to win and win with ease, but she couldn't keep the Obama coalition together.

So

are those people concerned about the Democrats taking such a hard left, or did they just like Donald Trump?

Well, there's a little bit of both things there.

I mean,

the part they liked about Donald Trump is that he wasn't much of a Republican.

You know, these are voters who've long resisted Republicans, even though Republicans agree with him more on religiosity, on the issues of life, on the issues of guns.

They've sort of agreed with Republicans on a lot of hot-button issues for years, but they've resisted becoming Republicans.

And throughout our interviews in the book, you listen to people, they say, oh, the Republicans are the country club party.

They're the people for the rich.

They're the insiders.

Trump wasn't the insider.

The name of the book is The Great Revolt.

Brad Todd, thanks.

From the Huffington Post Twitter account,

a tape might exist.

Again, this is the Huffington Post.

A tape might exist of Trump doing something in an elevator.

Though exactly where that somewhere is, and what that something might be,

no one in the media can say.

Could he have been just pressing some of the buttons on?

I'm doing breaking news here.

Okay.

I mean, let's not.

All right.

I don't.

Okay.

Where that somewhere is and what that something might be, no one in the media can say.

That's because no one in the media seems to have seen this tape or even is confident that it exists.

End quote.

What a powerful report that is.

That is, can I tell you something?

Let's, I mean,

that's journalism.

Let's find it.

It is.

Let's, uh, the who.

Trump.

Yes.

The what?

Elevator?

The where.

Elevator again?

The why.

Because he's Trump.

The how?

Because he's Trump.

Yeah.

Hello, that's all he needs.

That's it.

The who, what, why, when, and how, they're all taken care of.

They're all there.

They're all there.

Brilliant journalism.

Brilliant.

Can you look?

Listen to that.

Let me read that again.

A tape.

This is journalism.

A tape might exist of Trump doing something in an elevator, though exactly where that somewhere is and what that something might be, no one in the media can say.

That's because no one in the media seems to have seen the tape or is even confident it exists.

But we're reporting on anyway.

That's.

Wow.

Isn't that a rumor?

That's worse than a rumor, isn't it?

Yes.

Look rumor up.

Marissa, can you just Google rumor?

See what

help me out on what a rumor is.

That may be lower than a rumor.

All we know in here

is that

somebody

said something about Trump in an elevator.

We could probably verify that.

There's probably photographic evidence of Trump in an elevator or going into an elevator.

So it's not complete rumor.

We know he's been in an elevator before.

Rumor.

A currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.

Yep, that's a rumor.

That's despicable.

Now,

let me just play compare and contrast here for a second.

Do you remember the media

and what they did with the picture of President Obama and Louis Farrakhan?

What they did with it?

Yeah, do you remember that?

I don't remember.

Oh, you don't?

Do you remember the picture?

Remember the picture they did?

They were in the same room or something?

Yeah, and

they were talking to each other.

You remember that picture?

I don't.

You don't?

I don't.

You really don't?

I don't think so.

Yeah, okay.

That's because they hid it until he left the Oval Office.

Oh, that's it.

And then it came out.

Then it came out.

Yeah.

They hid it.

They knew about it.

And they hid it.

Same thing.

What about the LA Times story on what Obama said about

who was the terrorist?

Yes.

The Palestinian Liberation Organization guy.

Yes.

At a speech, and they had the tape, and they would not, and still.

To this day, have not released it.

Yep.

So there's two things that the media knew about and hid.

Let me go here.

We were called a conspiracy theorist because we told you about what we called, what Sarah Palin called death panels.

We called it by name, the complete lives system.

We were called conspiracy theorists for reporting on something that had come from the White House, and we had documented proof of that was a conspiracy.

But the Huffington Post saying there's a tape somewhere

of Trump doing something in an elevator, perhaps we don't know where,

but it's probably pretty juicy, but that could be total nonsense because no one has ever seen it.

No one can even verify that it exists.

Oh my gosh.

And they wonder, they wonder why we don't trust them.

Remember when we spoke the facts that you're not going to be able to keep your doctor under Obamacare?

Yeah.

Oh, that was conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy theory.

A fact.

If you like your doctor, you can keep it.

Keep your doctor.

If you like your plan, you can keep it.

No, you're not going to be able to.

That's a fact.

And we all know that.

In fact, they called it the biggest lie of the Obama administration.

It was a verifiable lie,

just as the complete

live system is.

It's a verifiable lie.

And they didn't cover that.

I mean, I'm.

Are we just foolish for even talking about it, Pat?

Well,

it's hard not to.

It's hard not to show.

And we've been frustrated with this before because of the double standard that exists.

And we hate to go there all the time.

But how can you not?

By the way, I tweeted this story last night.

I would love for you to retweet it.

Go and retweet it because

I added Brian Stelter to it at CNN.

Because, you know, he just can't figure out why the media is.

So I've been, if you follow me on Twitter,

please, if you see at Brian Stelter,

make sure that you retweet that.

Because I'd really like him to

at least recognize from time to time.

Just recognize.

You're going to answer that one, Brian.

You say you don't understand

what the media is doing,

and yet you do it every day.

You and your cohorts, cohorts, do it every day, and you claim it doesn't happen.

So I'm just chronicling,

oh, here it is.

Oh, here it is.

Was it Stelter last week that brought out the conspiracy guy?

No.

No.

It was somebody else.

The Skins.

Yeah,

that was MSNBC.

Oh, that was Chris Hayes.

chris haze that's right but again but again there's they didn't say there's no outcry on that and then and then chris haze what was that story hang on what was that story because that was uh that was the new yorker no the new york magazine yeah saying

this probably didn't happen

but but what if donald trump was a sleeper cell that has just been activated by Russia.

Well, that's a good question.

I mean, it would be bad, right?

That would be

bad.

It would be just as bad as if, let's say, somebody was a handler for Barack Obama, and Barack Obama had been surrounded by Marxists his whole life.

And suddenly he gets all kinds of

special opportunities that

you know may not have been afforded to other people, but you couldn't ever find any record of it because all of his files for Occidental and everywhere else just mysteriously were either disappeared or were sealed.

You can see how that conspiracy theory started, can't you?

But that was a conspiracy theory.

We all know that that was ridiculous.

But here's the New York magazine saying, we know this probably isn't true, but

what if it were?

That's incredible.

I mean, that's like, that's, you know, that's that kind of thinking that gets us to spend even more money as a country.

Yes, we're $20 trillion in debt, but what if we weren't?

But we are.

I love this.

What's her name?

I can never remember her name.

The new,

you know, socialist force.

Oh, yeah, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Yeah, okay.

All right.

So she tweeted, she tweeted last night.

She said, when I call a congressional candidate progressive, it's because they meet all of these standards.

One, no corporate welfare.

Two, Medicare for all.

That's universal healthcare.

Tuition, debt-free college

and trade school.

Criminal justice reform.

Green New Deal.

What does that mean?

Green New Deal.

That is

a new deal, but just based on the environment.

Environment.

Yep.

Common sense gun.

Have you seen the proposals in that?

Because that's got to be astounding.

Yeah, I read it a couple of weeks ago from her, the outline of it.

It's pretty intense.

Common sense gun reform, equal rights for all, a federal jobs guarantee program.

And expand federal student loan forgiveness.

Oh, and one more.

Abolish ice.

So let's just go through the ones that are going to cost us money.

Expand federal loan, student loan forgiveness.

A federal job guarantee, which means anyone who wants a job can get a job guaranteed with the government.

A green New Deal, tuition and debt-free college and trade school, free universal health care with Medicare for all.

What does that cost us?

Now, if you were somebody who says, you know what, we just, we're the richest country in the world.

No, we're not.

No, we're not the richest country in the world.

We are the biggest debtor in the history of the world.

That's what we are.

We are $20 trillion in debt that we've already spent.

$20 trillion gone.

We have in unfunded liabilities another $150 or $200 trillion

that we're just hoping we're going to figure out how we're going to pay for that when it comes time to pay for that.

So we are $20 trillion already spent and gone, and we are about $200 trillion yet to come.

May I ask, how do you pay for all of these things?

Because math

and reason

have to be employed.

So if you're going to say, well, I want these things, but we don't want, we're going to reduce the military.

Okay, then just say that.

Show me the numbers.

You want all of these things.

That's cool.

Show me the numbers.

How does that work out?

Now, why is that a hostile question?

That is an honest question.

If you can show me how you're going to pay for all of these things,

I'd like to hear it.

I really would.

I think a lot of Americans would.

And you know what?

Some Americans will be for that.

Some Americans that aren't for it right now.

Some will say, oh, well, I didn't know that's a reasonable plan.

I think we could get that done.

If that's your plan,

express it.

Tell us.

How are you going to afford it?

But that's probably racist to even ask that.

The media won't answer that question.

Now,

if a candidate says, I want to cut taxes, the media is going to tell you exactly how much that tax cut is going to cost America.

No, it doesn't cost you anything.

You just don't collect the money, which means you have to spend less.

So they will tell you relentlessly how much that will cost you, but they won't talk about people who are democratic socialists who are saying, I want to spend this

and continue to tell people that's unreasonable.

That's unreasonable.

There's no money here.

We're already $20 trillion in debt.

They won't do that.

Well, there's probably a good reason, though.

I mean, there's only so much space on the internet, you know?

It's like money.

There's only a certain amount of money, and beyond that, there's no more money.

It's like that with the internet.

There's just no more space.

And when you're running stories like, you know, important things, like there's possibly, maybe, probably not a tape.

of Donald Trump doing something we don't know what in an elevator somewhere we don't know where

and we'd like to run it but we don't have it, nor do any other journalists have it.

In fact, nobody can even verify that tape exists.

You know, when you're running stuff like that, you know, important things like deficit and debt control, you know, kind of fall away to the wayside.

Bill Browder, he's the guy, you know, the Magninsky Act.

That is the

adoption thing that was imposed on Vladimir Putin.

That was started because because of Bill Broward's partner.

And Bill Broward is the guy who actually got that act in place

because his partner Magninsky had been killed by Vladimir Putin.

You want to know who Vladimir Putin is?

We have Bill Browder on with us at the top of the hour.

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You want to know who Vladimir Putin is?

The guy whose business partner was assassinated by Vladimir Putin, who knows who he is.

Next,

Glenn Beck.

It's Monday, July 16th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Right now, the president is meeting on the other side of the planet with Vladimir Putin.

People think they know who Vladimir Putin is.

There's one guy who actually knows who he is.

He's been the number one enemy of Vladimir Putin for the last 10 years.

In fact,

it's because of him that Russia and Putin's people were meeting in the Trump Tower with Donald Trump before the election.

It's because of him there is such a thing called the Magninsky Act.

His name is Bill Browder, and he wrote a letter to the president, and it is the cover of the New York Times right now.

Bill is on the phone with us to kind of go over some advice for the president.

Bill, how are you, sir?

I'm doing really well.

How are you?

What is it like to be the number one enemy of arguably the most dangerous man on the planet?

Well, I think that there are probably better things to be than that, but

this wasn't something that I chose.

This was something

that happened because of what Putin did.

Putin, the reason that I'm an enemy of Vladimir Putin is that

he and his cronies killed one of my colleagues and friends, a young man named Sergei Magnitsky, who was a lawyer working for me in Russia, after Sergei uncovered a massive government corruption scheme and thought as a patriot he would expose it.

Instead, Putin's henchmen arrested him, tortured him for 358 days, and killed him eight and a half years ago.

And I've been on a mission to get justice for Sergei, which has led to, as you mentioned, the Magnitsky Act, which imposes asset freezes and visa sanctions on Putin and his cronies for a variety of crimes, including killing Sergei.

And because Putin is a kleptocrat, he's a guy who steals money from his people in large quantities

and he keeps that money in the West, he feels completely exposed by this piece of legislation.

And in response to that, he's tried to have the legislation repealed, as you mentioned, having sending him his emissaries to Trump Tower and also trying to destroy me and all the people around me.

And most recently, he tried to use Interpol to arrest me in Madrid.

I was arrested for a brief period of time on a Russian Interpol arrest warrant about a month ago.

Putin's playing for keeps.

He's a cold-blooded killer.

He's a dangerous man.

And I'm very worried about any of these attempts to somehow placate him or appease him that are taking place with...

with the president right now in Helsinki.

One more personal question.

Then I want to go to Helsinki.

Why are you still alive?

Well, Putin is a killer.

He kills at home.

He kills abroad.

The one thing he doesn't like to do is face consequences for his crimes.

And he hasn't figured out a way of killing me and doing it in a way that he can get away with.

And so what they've tried to do, instead of killing me abroad, is having me arrested, taken back to Russia, and killing me in Russia, where he has the full ability to get away with that.

And so

they're now on their seventh abusive attempt to use Interpol to have me arrested.

I live in England, and they've tried a dozen times in various different ways to apply to the British police for mutual legal assistance.

They're suing me all over the world.

They're trying to do everything they can to get me back to Russia, to discredit me, to have me extradited, to impoverish me, to do what they can to destroy me

so that they can destroy me in a way that's plausibly deniable and doesn't put them in further sanctions or other political consequences.

Bill,

you wrote an open letter to the president, and you said there are a few things you need to know about Putin, and I'd like to just go over them with you.

First, Putin has a weak hand and is always bluffing.

Yeah, so let's talk about that.

So what do we have here?

What is Russia?

Russia is a country with an economy the size of the state of New York.

Russia is a country with a military budget, which is 90% less than the U.S.

military budget.

And that's assuming that whatever is in their military budget isn't being stolen.

And I would bet that 80% of the military budget is being stolen.

Russia is a country which is just a minnow in the world.

It's not a serious player in any way, shape, or form.

And to put,

so for us to be meeting with Putin on an equal level, is just absurd.

It doesn't make any sense.

He's a pit squeak in comparison with the United States.

And so he's bluffing like hell.

He's got this pair of twos, and the United States is a full house.

And for anyone to sort of

put them on an equal stage gives him an enormous amount of credibility, which he doesn't deserve.

Putin is a bald-faced liar.

So,

yeah, so Putin,

as we've seen, and this is not me making this assessment, this is just

his lies are legendary.

Remember when he invaded Crimea, he said, no, these weren't our troops, they were little green men.

When he shot down MH17, he said, no, it wasn't our missiles, it was the Ukrainians' missiles.

When he cheated in the Olympics with doping, no, no, nobody cheated, even though there's like absolute documentary evidence of it.

Everything, he said, we're going to get rid of chemical weapons in Syria.

They've not done anything about chemical weapons in Syria.

Putin lies, lies, and then lies for more.

Anything he says is a lie.

You said in your op-ed in Time, this open letter to President Trump saying, please, you have to keep in mind a few things.

You said something that really connected with me.

President George W.

Bush famously looked into Putin in the eye, saw his soul.

Last year, I had lunch with President Bush and asked him about it.

In short, he said each of their dozen following meetings and conversations were disastrous.

2009, President Obama tried to clean up the situation by offering Russia a reset.

That emboldened Putin even further.

Now, Putin is meeting with President Trump.

You say his views compromise, Putin's views compromise

and engagement as a weakness.

So

Putin, so

every time you get a U.S.

president,

They all think, well, I'm the leader of the free world.

Look how great I am.

I can go and tame Vladimir Putin.

And so Putin goes and meets with these people and gives them some sense that he can be tamed.

And they feel like, wow, I'm so good and I'm so powerful.

I'm going to tame this man.

And then they come back with these experiences like what happened with George W.

Bush and what happened with Barack Obama.

And the same thing is going to happen with Trump.

If he thinks that if he has any capacity, to tame, to negotiate and to come to any kind of terms with Vladimir Putin, he's sorely mistaken.

Vladimir Putin will take whatever he's given in a negotiation, and that will be the starting point for the next negotiation.

And these relationships never end up well.

And there's one simple reason why they don't, which is because Putin can't afford to be friends with the United States.

His whole spiel with the Russian people is to say,

look at all the,

even though we have trouble in our own country, even though the economy stinks, even though there's nothing good happening here, we've got to all band together to fight against these foreign enemies, and America is our biggest foreign enemy.

He has to say that, otherwise, people are going to turn their attention to him.

And so, whatever Putin says or doesn't say, and he will lie, of course, in that meeting,

he has no intention of honoring whatever he might have agreed to.

And that's been his pattern for 18 years.

And for people to ignore that, or for anybody to ignore that, for President Trump to ignore that, he's doing it at his own peril.

Putin has said this morning that the Cold War is a thing of the past, but he has also said it it was the biggest mistake

of the 20th century, the way it ended with the collapse of the former Soviet Union.

What is it that ⁇ do you think that Donald Trump

gets any of what you've just said and understands?

He called him a competitor last week, which I kind of liked because I don't want to call people enemies, even though I believe he is an enemy.

There's no reason to use that language until, you know, well, I was going to say until it's official, but I I guess it is official.

Do you think that Donald Trump gets this at all on who he is?

Well,

the whole policy, Russian,

the Trump-Russia policy is confusing.

On one hand, Trump makes these ridiculous statements saying that Putin is not a killer.

I want to get along with him.

He's a nice guy.

And on the other hand, Trump...

has an administration full of totally clear-eyed people who understand Russia better than anybody.

And Pompeo, the Secretary of State, Jim Mattis, the Secretary of Defense, Nikki Haley, the U.S.

Ambassador in the United Nations,

John Bolton, these are all people who understand exactly who Putin is and are tough as hell on Putin.

And I've seen it with my own eyes, and I'm very conscious of this, that they've taken steps that are more tough on Russia than anything I've seen in a long, long time.

In particular, when they went after Putin's oligarchs in April, and they sanctioned seven of the richest oligarchs in Russia.

And

they weren't just sanctioning Putin.

I mean, they weren't just sanctioning the oligarchs.

They were sanctioning Putin himself because he was his money with the most important thing.

So what do you think Trump is doing?

Well, either he has some strange negotiating strategy, which doesn't make any sense to me, or

it's all a big discombobulated mess

in terms of his Russia policy.

I don't know.

It doesn't make any sense.

It's very schizophrenic.

On one hand, I applaud it, which is the actual implementation of the policy.

On the other hand, I abhor it when he says that Putin is not a killer.

I know for a fact that Putin is a killer.

You actually compare him to Pablo Escobar.

Yes,

he's an organized criminal on massive proportions.

The only difference between Putin and Escobar is that Putin has got nuclear weapons.

He's a gangster, a mafia gangster with nuclear weapons.

So

what do you hope can come out of this?

Is there anything

that could happen today that you would say, okay, well, that was okay?

Well, if Trump gets tough on Putin and says that you should withdraw from Ukraine, you should not bomb any innocent women and children in Syria,

that you will be eviscerated if you get involved in any kind of political meddling in the United States or our allied countries.

If you continue to

assassinate people using chemical weapons in our allied countries, then we're going to come down on you like a ton of bricks.

If he doesn't say that, then all this stuff is just completely empowering Putin to do that.

I don't see

that.

I don't see any of that happening.

I see maybe Syria.

I think he would like to wrap up Syria, but I don't think he cares about Ukraine, unfortunately.

He was just over in England, but

that was a little dicey.

And I can't imagine him saying that NATO is going to get tough on him

if

he doesn't stop killing people in NATO countries.

But do you?

I mean, do you see it?

So what I see is that

there's effectively no upside to this summit.

It shouldn't have happened.

There's only downside.

Waiting with bated breath to see what any public announcements are to

see how much damage is done and what how that damage can be mitigated um it this it's it's dealing with vladimir putin is like dealing with a mafia gangster and and that's not the the tone that this summit has been approached so far by by president trump how does how does russia's uh putin's russia end do you think

well putin is going to stay in place for as long as he can there's there's not going to be he's not going to retire to the putin presidential library

speeches.

That's not going to happen.

He has to stay in place because all of his money will be taken away.

He'll probably go to jail and could even worse things happen to him if he's no longer in power.

And so he's going to stay in power until the very bitter end.

And

I say that the best comparable is what I call the Mugabe scenario.

Mugabe was the president of Zimbabwe for like 30 years, and he just

stayed and stayed and stayed and created more and more nationalism and more and more of a mess until the currency became worthless.

The economy is,

and

that's Putin's only play here, and that's what he's going to do.

And the worse the economy gets, the more angry and nationalistic he gets, and the more trouble he's going to cause in the rest of the world.

And this is an absolute villainous character that needs to be contained.

And anybody who knows him, including some very, very good people in the Trump administration, totally agree with me on this.

Bill, I I wish you the best, and I pray for you and

your family that you stay safe.

I don't know how or why you would travel over to Europe and leave the safety of the United States, but

we wish you all the best.

And thanks for being on the program, and thank you for being brave enough to stand up.

I mean,

was there

Are you married, Bill?

I am.

I don't like to talk about my family.

No, no,

I just wanted to know, did you

was there ever a time that you and your wife or that you just thought,

man, I don't know if I can do this?

I mean, you put up, the stakes are really high and people don't do what you've done.

Well,

what Putin and his cronies did to Sergei Magnitsky, my lawyer, they killed him as my proxy.

He basically would be alive today if he hadn't been working for me, and they killed him as my proxy, and he stood up for me, and it's my duty to stand up for him.

And I couldn't live with myself if I didn't do that.

So

I will continue to fight Putin until the bitter end and continue to call for justice for the murder of Sergei Magitsky and many other people.

And I'm not going to back down.

You are a very rare man,

and it is a privilege to talk to you, Bill.

Thank you so much.

God bless.

Thank you.

Wow.

Keep him and his family in prayer.

Holy cow.

Would you do that, Pat?

Think you'd have the guts?

I don't know.

I mean, that's...

You never know until you're there.

Until you're there.

I don't know.

Terrifying.

He's also painted kind of a bleak picture of what can come of this summit.

Yeah.

Pretty much believes nothing will.

Nothing good.

Well,

let's watch

and keep our fingers crossed.

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Pat said to me earlier this morning, we were off the air and he said, I'm going to be, I'm going to be here for

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There's a teleconference going on or a video.

It's a program.

It's a show.

I don't know what you even call them.

It's on the internet.

It's kind of like a seminar.

Yeah,

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Now, Pat said, I want to know the three cryptocurrencies.

And you've tried to get it out of it.

I've tried.

Do you actually not know them?

I actually do not know them.

I don't know them.

I don't know if I believe that.

No, I really don't.

I don't know them.

But we're going to find out Thursday night.

He says, A, I bet you one of them is still Bitcoin.

Maybe.

I'm going to get two because he said there's things going on behind the scenes with Bitcoin.

That I do know about.

It's pretty impressive.

That could propel it to a new high.

Yeah, when you understand that technology,

that could do it.

But he's got three of them, and he says now is the time to invest.

He's a guy who knows.

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Boy,

there's an amazing thing going on.

Can you have

a decent conversation with people anymore?

Can you just ask honest questions?

No.

I try to, and I try to frame them as honest questions.

When I write anything online, I really try to frame it as an honest question.

So

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said,

you have to meet all of these standards to be called a progressive in my world.

No corporate bailouts, Medicare for all, tuition and debt-free college, plus trade school, a green New Deal,

a federal jobs guarantee, which means if you want a job,

the government will guarantee one, and expand federal student loan forgiveness.

So I wrote: Now, does this sound hostile?

Plus, student loan forgiveness guaranteed government jobs for all.

Acasio 2018, you say that the U.S.

is rich, but are you rich if you're just living on maxed-out credit cards?

How would you pay for this and not further enslave future generations?

No, gotcha.

Just want to hear the plan.

Oh my, no, you can't, no, you can't ask that question.

No, Her supporters made it very clear on who I was and accused me of all kinds of things, which, huh, that's...

If you use a baloney detection kit, that smells like baloney.

Like, you don't actually have a plan.

Can someone share it?

I'd like to hear it.

Glenn, back.

So Alexandria Casio-Cortez, who I actually

have

supportive of, not of any of her policies,

but

the press was tearing her.

I'm sorry, the right was tearing her apart.

And I said, at least she's saying what she believes.

At least she's coming out and saying that she's a socialist.

I much prefer that than to people, you know, that

claim, oh, no, no, no, no.

How dare you?

You're using socialists.

That's racist to call me a socialist.

No, it's not.

It's political ideology.

I do like that she admits it.

I do too.

She's still agonizing.

But I like that she admits it.

She's very agonizing.

But I would love to have a conversation.

It's like Bernie Sanders.

I would have a very respectful conversation with Bernie Sanders.

Well, maybe until the Clinton thing, because I think he sold out his principles there at the end.

But

I would like to have a conversation with her.

She seems intelligent.

She seems smart.

She seems like she, you know, is one with the people.

Great.

I'd love to hear it.

Now, she tweeted that we need

no corporate welfare.

I agree with Medicare for all.

No.

Tuition, debt-free college and trade school.

Wow.

No.

A green new deal.

Absolutely not.

A federal jobs guarantee.

If you want a job, the guarantee is coming from the government that they will give you one.

Absolutely not.

Expand federal student loan forgiveness.

No.

Okay.

So all of these things, this is trillions of dollars.

And so I wrote,

you know, you say that the U.S.

is rich because this is her deal.

You know, we're the richest country in the world.

We're not.

We're actually not.

No, we're not.

We're living on maxed out credit cards.

Now, if we didn't have debt or we had a healthy amount of debt, but we don't have a healthy amount of debt.

We're adding a trillion dollars a year, Social Security in 2022.

This is last call, guys.

2022, we are out of money for Social Security.

When that happens, it's $2 trillion of debt added each year.

That's just a few years away.

Is that a lot?

Yeah.

Yeah, it is.

So I said, so

how are you going to pay for this and not further enslave future generations?

No gotchas.

I just want to hear the plan.

So that was my

evil question.

Hey, Glenn, why don't you worry about making your websites payroll?

How's your jet doing?

It's actually doing fine.

This one.

Hey,

Glenn.

We should sell the military.

No.

No, I don't think that's a good idea.

Do you ask the same question about endless war?

war?

Yes.

I've actually been, I've been very clear on this one since, I don't know, since George Bush was in office.

Isn't it fascinating?

Not one of them can say, well, how about we pay for it with a massive tax increase?

You've got to pay for it.

Well,

here's one.

Reunite the immigrant families, then take the billions paid monthly to ICE,

private companies, HHS for their care, court transportation, and ear market all for a Casio.

Okay, wait, wait, wait.

Okay.

So wait, that doesn't pay for it.

We're already paying that amount, and we're in debt.

And if you just let them go and in the country, then we're still going to be paying for their job or their tuition or something else, which would be more expensive.

So I don't.

We don't give ICE a billion dollars a month anyway.

Raise your taxes.

This is the first honest one.

Raise taxes on the rich.

There you go.

Raise taxes taxes to the level where income concentration will reverse and wages and middle class incomes will rise.

Raise the corporate tax back to 50%.

Oh, my gosh.

Raise the estate tax to 65%.

Raise taxes

on you.

Well, there you go.

I mean, that's because

you still don't pay for everything, but that's the only way you can even begin to try to pay for everything.

And that's to tax everybody into the dark ages again.

You're going to a 65%

tax on what people have already paid taxes on their entire life, and then when they die, they got to give you 65%

of everything they accrued?

Immoral.

Why don't you ask?

Immoral.

Why don't you ask Donald Rump?

Let's see.

Because they left off the team.

Who blew $1.7 trillion on a deficit for a tax break?

No,

I'm with you on this one.

The tax break helps the economy, but it's suicide in the long run unless you include spending cuts.

You've got to cut the spending as well.

So I don't know why you're so hostile on that one.

Stop giving away money to corporations and churches.

Churches?

We're giving away money.

Giving money to churches?

I didn't know that that would.

Well, by giving away, I'll bet you they're talking about the tax exemption for churches.

That's not giving them money, that's letting them keep the money they get.

You're not giving them anything.

How about raising taxes on those who can afford it, especially the one who makes millions bleeding on the radio, telling poor people that poor people are screwing them?

You know,

who is that?

Peter.

Peter, I've paid more taxes than you will make in your entire life, I'm guessing.

Oh, yeah.

I think I've paid my fair share and then some.

When you are in a situation to where you've grew up like I grew up, middle-class family,

dad was, you know, struggled just to make ends meet.

We lost the bank of the bakery in the end because my dad couldn't make go of it after 25 years.

And nobody ever went to college.

We couldn't afford to go to college.

If I was going to go to college, I had to pay for it myself.

And we wouldn't have been looking for handouts and I certainly didn't whine about it.

If you are in that situation and you find yourself in a situation to where you can make it in America, I certainly am not going to be on the other side telling people to take your money away.

I certainly do think that you should pay your fair share, but I don't believe in a progressive income tax.

I think we all need skin in the game.

And whether that's, you know, God asks for 10%,

that's God.

What's the government?

Maybe we all pay 5%.

May we all pay 10%?

I don't know.

Under a certain income,

give you a break.

There's no, you know, you don't have to have.

skin in the game.

We're going to get on, you get you on your feet.

But once you hit a certain level, everyone should have skin in the game.

My folks, they sent me to private school.

It was a Catholic school.

And when we say private school in the West, it's not like private school in the East.

And it's certainly not like a private school, even in the West today.

It was a little teeny Catholic private school.

My mom worked in the kitchen.

They did fundraisers.

My dad provided food from the bakery for fundraisers.

My folks paid for some of the tuition and worked the rest of it off.

We didn't get a handout.

We couldn't afford it, but somehow or another, we all made it work.

To me, that's fair.

To me, what's fair is not looking at somebody's bank account,

but looking

at what they've done.

Their bank account is irrelevant to me.

God never gave me the right to take money from you.

I don't have a right.

If I came to your house and said, you know what, I want 10%.

You know what?

I want 50% of your income.

You know what?

I want 65%

of what you made.

If I did that, you would you would probably get me on racketeering.

You'd probably be a mob boss to be able to do that.

But that's what you encourage others to do to me

every day.

Every day, anybody who is paying taxes is being told by somebody usually not paying taxes,

we should take more of what you have.

In what universe is that right?

In what universe is it right and legal

for a mob to get together and say, we took a vote and we get half of what you have?

Beside, you know, the island of lost boys,

where does that happen?

And is right.

We could all get together and say, we all,

if we're going to live here, are going to pay this amount.

We're going to pay this percentage, all of us.

That would be fair.

But to have a small number of citizens decide

that my amount is bigger than your amount

doesn't seem

based in that word that you keep using

fair

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So

there's been a lot of controversy concerning Scarlett Johansson's decision to play a transgendered character.

The LGBTQ community is very upset, and social justice types have been raging about Johansen.

Now,

she was going to play a crime kingpin who was born a woman but identified as a male in the film

Rub and Tug.

In an interview with npr naturally a trans activist had this to say about it so explain that a little more why is it deeply offensive to you when a cis actor is chosen to play a trans character

so casting male actors to play trans women and female actors to play trans men really reinforces the idea that trans men are really women who are pretending to be men and tricking people into thinking they're men, as opposed to the truth, which is that transgender men are are living authentically as themselves, and we look like men, and we feel like men, and we are perceived as men, and there's no reason like women should be playing us.

Oh, man,

I got a lot to say there.

A lot to say there.

Immanuel Kant comes to mind.

There are many things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things that I do not believe.

So, in response to the backlash, Scarlett Johansson released a statement to her critics, and she said, tell them that they can be directed to Jeffrey Tambour or Jared Leto or Felicity Huffman.

These are all cis actors who played trans characters.

Why isn't there this amount of outcry when Jeffrey Tambour chose to play Maura in Transparent?

Now that sounds good and then she buckled.

And then she buckled.

So what's the the source of all of this outrage?

It's a small vocal mob who the mainstream media has for some reason given a platform and whose voice is louder than the rest of ours and they're able to bully until they get what they want.

Let's say that Scarlett Johansson

had refused the role to begin with on the ground that she wouldn't play a transgendered character.

I can guarantee you that the same crowd wouldn't say, oh, good.

They would have said, how dare dare her?

And would have probably tried to force her to play that role.

Can't we just live next to each other?

Can't we just leave each other alone?

You want to dress as a woman and you want to be a woman and claim you're a woman?

I'm going to have a scientist argue the X and Y chromosome thing with you, but I don't.

That's only if you push me and push me and push me.

I mean, I'm fine.

Live any way you want.

I don't care.

I love Hollywood eating their own, though.

That's just tasty.

I love the fact.

I love the fact that

you cannot get

a cis person to play a trans person.

Right.

Not in Hollywood.

They can't pretend.

They can't act.

What are you crazy?

Did anybody have a problem with the play

Hamilton?

I don't think so.

Those were black people playing the part that white people.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's not going on.

That's not going on.

I haven't seen Hamilton.

There's black people playing the founders.

There's no white people.

Oh, my God.

That's crazy tight.

There was no outrage.

There was no outrage.

There's no outrage.

Nobody cared about it.

Because there is no outrage here even.

right.

It's Hollywood.

Exactly.

Who cares?

How dare you play John F.

Kennedy?

Only John F.

Kennedy should play John F.

Kennedy.

It's a book.

That's their job

to play people that they aren't.

Oh,

postmodernism hurts.

It really hurts.

We'll see you tonight at five o'clock only on the Blaze TV.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.