'Kowtowing To Insanity' - 6/5/18

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Glenn back.

Feminists gather around.

I've got great news for you.

You're not going to believe this.

But while you have been fighting the patriarchy here in the oppressive, toxic, masculinity-driven state of the Western world, women in Saudi Arabia themselves have been fighting their own battle.

I mean,

it's not as important as yours in this oppressive

regime and hierarchy.

I don't know how you do it every day.

Anyway, you know

how you've been fighting for the rights of transgender and non-binary people to, you know, be able to mark X on their birth certificate, you know, or use the restroom of their choice.

Well, women in Saudi Arabia have just earned the right to drive.

Well, not all of them.

That would be crazy.

10 of them.

10 of them did.

10 women in Saudi Arabia can now drive.

You know, yes, there are 15 women, 15 million women in the country, but 10,

not million, just 10 can now drive.

The women were only allowed to drive and have a license because they previously had a driver's license in other countries.

You know, the evil Western patriarchal societies who gender norms are so oppressive.

Yeah, those countries that issued women the driver's license so they could go back

to Saudi Arabia and not drive.

Now, these 10 women, I mean, let's not be crazy.

They still have to wear, you know, full-body hijabs, you know.

And four of the Saudi women rights activists are in jail for campaigning.

for women's rights to drive.

But.

Hey, have you heard?

Have you heard the latest outrage on Twitter?

Oh my gosh, the oppressive regime just continues.

Anyway, back to these women and their right to drive in Saudi Arabia.

These 10 women do have the right to drive, but they also,

I mean,

there's got to be a guy in the car.

You know what I mean?

A quote, male guardian has to be present, you know, as it is in the case for all travel and education and employment and opening a bank account and having surgery, you know.

I mean, you could have a woman like you let her have surgery, but you don't want her to make the decision herself.

There's got to be a guy there, you know.

And you know, a woman has got to be able to show signed permission slips if she wants to travel.

You know, permission from a man.

That only makes sense.

Can we please concentrate on the real oppression that is happening in the West?

Man.

By the way, in Saudi Arabia, women also need the permission, oftentimes, for a man

or from a man to answer the phone.

I mean, you can, you're just not going to answer the phone on your own.

You know?

They also have far fewer economic rights.

They have no legal status.

They lack education.

They aren't allowed in sports.

There's no legal minimum age for marriage.

So, yeah, you can marry one of them at seven.

Domestic violence isn't even a thing.

Needless to say, feminists in Saudi Arabia are too worried about their lives to care about, you know, maybe I'm another gender that doesn't exist in science.

You know,

they don't worry about that because, well, there's not a man there

that will agree with them.

Can you imagine?

Can you imagine how the campus feminists would react if they face this kind of terror?

Nah, let me reverse that.

Who cares?

Who cares?

They're such frauds.

You know, every person in America, both left and right, need to hear this one message.

Grow up.

Grow up.

Are you kidding me?

Oh, I'm so outraged by shut up.

In New York,

they just

allowed people now to put an X instead of male or female under gender.

You can just put an X

because you're not going to oppress your child.

And the mayor said, well, that's going to make us more equal.

No, that's going to make us more stupid

and more crying.

Oh, my parents oppress me.

Shut up.

You want to know what oppression is?

Saudi Arabia.

Don't think about, oh, what would the people in the campus do if they had to live just a little bit of the life of Saudi Arabia?

Forget about that.

Do you know, feminists, how ridiculous you look?

What an insult you are as you stand up for the rights of women against this oppressive regime here in the West while you're standing with people

who are with Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam,

the Muslim Brotherhood, the free Palestine people?

You got to be kidding me, right?

Do you know what a joke, what a terror you are to the actual feminists who are actually fighting for real freedom in most of the world

did i say by the way all those people should shut up grow a spine

grow up it's tuesday june 5th this is the glenbeck program hello stu how are you

better than you apparently

you're a little fired up today no i'm in a good mood i i just i you know when i see these uh 15 million women in Saudi Arabia and the God only knows how many homosexuals in the Middle East that are, you know, terrified, crucified, beaten to death, thrown off of buildings, I think of the civil rights leaders here in America and I think they are fine, fine people who really have perspective.

Oh, really?

Yeah, you are?

That's what I'm thinking.

That's interesting.

That's what I'm thinking.

Well, I'm glad you've hit on the

minor details of the Me Too movement.

The minor details.

The minor details, because these aren't the important issues.

The important issues are happening here in America where women are really targeted.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

We're talking about all sorts of vicious treatment.

Horrible.

Horrible.

And, you know, like,

it's funny you bring that up because that's good perspective as we go into this conversation about Bill Clinton.

Now, Clinton, I want to get to this in a second.

This whole situation with his interviews,

which are really going off the rails you know why

he's no longer listening oh my gosh i i watched can i sidebar your honor for just a second um i i watched the soviet story last night oh okay which is debuting on the blaze when coming up on the blaze in a couple of weeks i think a couple of weeks it's it's unbelievable it is just

unbelievable so i'm watching that last night and now i can't remember why i told you that what were we talking about about the the Me Too movement and

crap, I had a really he's no longer useful.

Oh, yeah, he's no longer useful.

Okay, so here's the thing.

How do these, quote, revolutionaries, these

Marxists not know enough about their own history every single time

that it gets to a point to where you've outlived your usefulness and they kill you?

Now, here in America, they're not killing anyone yet, but they are destroying the Clintons.

Why?

Because they don't have any power.

They didn't like them anyway.

By 2005, they had had enough.

But they just put up with her because she could maybe get into power.

They looked to the other way the whole time.

Now

She lost against Donald Trump.

They have no power.

They're pissed.

And they are going to destroy.

Destroy them now.

Yeah.

And I put the date a little bit later, probably when she leaves the Obama administration, right?

Like she's Secretary of State.

She's still very popular.

They know that she's potentially the heir apparent.

They start to lose favor with her after that when all the scandal starts happening.

And then as she goes into the presidency, they stick by her because they want her to assume the presidency rather than just run for it.

But now they're done with the family.

They are done with it.

And this gets, let me give you an example of it.

Bill Clinton is currently being hammered in a Me Too fashion over the Monica Lewinsky thing.

Okay.

And there is a lot to go through on this.

And the fact check of his interview about it is absolutely amazing from the Washington Post.

Now, wait, hold it just a second.

Wait, a fact check?

Yes.

On Bill Clinton about the Lewinsky scandal?

Yeah, and well, and more than that, they just absolutely obliterate him.

They categorize it as fact-checking Bill Clinton's meltdown on NBC's Today Show.

Meltdown?

Like,

I mean, like, I'm fine with that categorization, but the Washington Post is too.

We're on the same page.

So wait until you see how many Pinocchios The Washington Post and what they're saying.

They are...

They are suddenly conservatives.

It's amazing.

All the points you heard in the 90s on Rush Limbaugh's show have been now parroted by the Washington Post and

as fact

as fact

and the reason why you shouldn't believe him on anything.

It's incredible.

We'll get to it here in just a second.

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Welcome to the program.

Glad you're here.

Saw a drift last night.

We'll talk about that coming up in a little while.

But we're just talking about the press and how they've now turned on

Bill and Hillary Clinton.

And it was an ugly weekend for Bill Clinton, poor James Patterson.

He's doing an interview on NBC with Bill Clinton.

And they're like, yeah, yeah, we'll talk about the book.

So, Bill, you're a rapist

and

just go after him.

And now,

here's what's remarkable.

It was NBC that went after him.

And the Washington Post has now done a fact check on Bill Clinton's claims about, well, look,

no, this is not the story.

And they are ripping him apart.

Right.

Fact checking Bill Clinton's meltdown on NBC's Today Show.

Now, this is is not the fact-check.

This is just the preamble to the fact check.

The former president responded with a defense that stressed how much he had done for women as a politician.

To a considerable extent, that is besides the point in today's context, as we've seen with Eric Schneiderman, etc.

We are not going to fact-check the entire statement.

Again, like, this is still a preamble.

They're telling you what they're not doing.

They're not going to fact-check claims like, you know, this one.

Clinton later in the interview admitted that he had not personally apologized to Lewinsky, the intern who he had an affair with.

He had simply apologized in general, which is not what the interviewer originally asked.

Never do they get that specific.

Never.

Never.

This is how they treat anybody.

This is how they treat people like Rick Santorum when they say something on the air.

People they absolutely hate.

Yes.

We were amused that Clinton slipped the phrase for the percentage in the bar when he bragged about women were overrepresented in his office when he was AG from 1977 to 1979.

It's actually a low bar.

Between

1918 and 1970, only 164 women gained access to Arkansas law licenses.

Only 22% of law licenses were held by women in 1998, two decades after Clinton was AG.

That's not them fact-checking.

As they say, two of his statements stand out as worthy of deeper fact-checking.

So that's not what they're that's just.

They're like, hey, we're not going to deal with that.

We're not going to deal with that now.

Here's all of his lies, but let's get to a couple of other ones.

I left the White House $16 million in debt.

This is a curious claim.

This one drives me nuts.

And everyone knows this is a lie.

In 2014, after Clinton was criticized, Hillary, for saying the couple was dead broke when they left the White House, former president had a much lower number.

It's factually true that we were several million dollars in debt.

Senate financial disclosures show broad ranges, from like, for example, $1 million to $5 million, but the highest possible assets added up to $1.8 million, while the lowest possible debts were $2.3 million.

That works out to $500,000 in negative net worth.

The form shows that the Clintons owed $1 to $5 million to two law firms.

So legal debts to the two firms could have been as low as $2 million or as high as $10 million.

On the high end, the couple's net worth would have been a negative $9.8 million at the time, though that appears unlikely.

Listen to this.

The dictionary definition of several

is, quote, more than two, but not many.

You know, here is what, here is what Bill Clinton should hear and Hillary Clinton should hear now every time the media approaches.

Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bada.

Run.

I mean, they are just, you are,

you are going to be taken.

Because they can't stand Donald Trump, but they blame her and him for Donald Trump.

So like, it's like the cause of their agitation is this couple.

You know,

maybe just say, it is wrong for me to feel such glee, but that's okay.

Yeah,

I'm okay with that.

The definition of several is more...

Remember, this is in a media,

speaking as a whole.

The media defended him on things like the definition of the word is.

Now they're hitting him with the definition of the word several.

Right, right.

What is it?

The midpoint of these two options is 4 or 5 million.

The disclosure forms do not require the listing of homes used.

Listen to the depth depth they're going to to get to this number.

The homes used for personal use and the Clintons had two, a $1.7 million five-bedroom home in Chappacawa and a $2.85 million five-bedroom room in the district.

The first one was bought in 1999 with a big loan by their pal and later Virginia governor, Terry McAuliffe.

This is the way they're talking about this is bizarre.

And by the way, their pal, Terry McAuliffe, is turning on them now, too.

Clintons put $855,000 of equity into the second one.

If Clinton was adding all of his mortgages to his overall debt, it still would not add up to $16 million.

And it hardly seems kosher to count such fancy lodgings.

Oh, my gosh.

Hillary Clinton, in any case, Hillary Clinton had already signed an $8 million book deal by the time the couple left the White House, which is true.

Bill Clinton was set to hit the lecture circuit, earning more than $125,000 per speech.

Clinton's 2001 tax returns show that they earned $16 million in income that year.

Oh, my gosh.

Maybe that's the $16 million Clinton had in mind.

That's how they

that is that this is not the Washington Post.

That's amazing.

This is

Fox News.

That is what Fox News

said in 2000.

That's what all of us said in 2000.

We were all like, guys,

that's not possible.

He's not in debt.

They have a great job.

It's the same argument the government gives us.

You know, debt's not a bad thing if you got enough money to pay for it.

So please, give it a rest.

No, they've never accepted that.

Now, 18 years later, because they're done with them,

they're making the same argument.

And then they go into the Paula Jones case.

Listen to this.

This will drive you out of your mind.

Clinton claims I had a sexual harassment policy when I was governor in the 80s.

The document actually came up in the Paula Jones lawsuit against Clinton for, yes, sexual harassment.

Again, it's just total disrespect to these people.

And look, he deserves total disrespect.

There's no doubt about it.

But where's this bid?

Right.

And it doesn't feel good.

It doesn't feel good to me that, you know, somebody's destroyed.

It feels good to me that finally the press is holding these people who have gotten away with rape.

With rape and theft for so long.

It feels good that the day of justice is finally coming.

And man,

wait until you hear the rest it's coming for the Clintons

oh

there is there's a there's occasion where

you enter into the restaurant and we dim the lights just a little bit and we say oh tonight tonight you are going to have a five-star meal

We have got a chef that is preparing something

just unbelievable for your consumption and enjoyment.

Today is one of those days.

Welcome to the cafe.

Good eating today on the menu.

We are eating the career of Donald, I'm sorry, of Bill Clinton.

And Bill Clinton's career is being served up by the Washington Post and the media.

Fact-checking Bill Clinton's meltdown on NBC's Today show.

So we went through the overall debt situation, which they,

with, with a CPA

acuity, they go on.

No, no, no.

And a dictionary.

Yeah, and a dictionary.

They define the word several in there to make sure you understand that he was lying about saying $16 million in debt.

But then they go on to, I had a sexual harassment policy when I was governor in the 80s.

The document actually came up in the Paula Jones lawsuit.

Now, again, for a Clinton in the past,

why would they bring that up when the document came up?

They would just, if they wanted to fact-check this, they could just go look at the document or they could learn what they know about the document.

Instead, they bring up the Paula Jones lawsuit, which is not necessary here, though they do refer to it a little bit.

The document actually came up in the Paula Jones lawsuit against Clinton for, yes, sexual harassment.

The document is listed as deposition exhibit number five in exchange for Clinton's, in this exchange from Clinton's deposition.

this is January 17th, 1998.

The question: Is this copy of the sexual harassment policy that you signed when you were governor of the state of Arkansas?

Clinton answers, yes, I signed it in 1987.

I'm fairly sure that I was.

We were the first or one of the very first states to actually have a clearly defined sexual harassment policy.

Now, Clinton's been using this excuse since 1998.

Okay.

The lawyer asks, Mr.

President, the criteria here under Roman numeral 3 were actually federal guidelines that you were adopting as as the policy in the state, correct?

Clinton answers, yes.

Okay, so basically,

it's already a law.

He's just taking the law that already exists federally and making it his policy because he's bragging about it, right?

He has to.

It's a federal mandate.

Right.

The Washington Post says, yikes quite a burn

by the lawyer.

Okay, now this burn, so you know, this burn was 20 years ago.

20 years ago.

In other words, Clinton is bragging today about a state policy that merely implemented new federal guidelines.

Now, why could he get away for saying the same thing that he said 20 years ago?

How could he use that same worthless claim on NBC Today?

Because no one has ever said in the mainstream media, you know, that's a lie.

That's just a lie.

They go on to say that it was actually one of the bottom 12.

by women's rights organizations and as far as worst places to live for any woman concerned with equal rights under the law.

It also

talk,

and then again, they could have ended it there, right?

It's also worth recalling the allegations made by Jones that led to her sexual harassment lawsuit in federal court.

1991, while Jones was, think of if this is how you've heard this story.

Because all I've heard is she's nuts and just wanted money, right?

That was the narrative for two decades.

Paula Jones had nothing to it.

Here's the narrative now that they're no longer useful.

In 1991, while Jones was working at a state-sponsored conference, a state trooper asked her to meet with Clinton in his hotel room.

When she arrived, she says, Clinton tried to kiss her and then dropped his pants and underwear and asked her to kiss it.

She refused and quickly left the hotel room.

Her account was backed up by people who said she told them at the time about the alleged encounter.

Pamela Blackard, a state employee sitting at the registration desk with Jones, said she noticed, she noticed Clinton staring intently at Jones and witnessed a state trooper asking Jones to go to Clinton's hotel room.

She recalled that 10 minutes later, Jones returned shaking and she told Blackhurt in detail about Clinton's actions.

Blackhirt told her to tell no one as she was afraid they would lose their jobs.

Ultimately, the Jones case, listen to the reasoning here.

Listen to the reasoning.

After everything we've gone through the past six months here, listen to the reasoning.

Ultimately, the Jones case was dismissed by a federal judge who ruled not that Jones was lying, not that Clinton was telling the truth, who ruled that even if her allegations were true, such boorish and offensive behavior would not be severe enough to constitute sexual harassment under the law.

That ruling was under appeal when Clinton in 1988 settled for $850,000 with no apology or admission of guilt.

In both cases, Clinton skirts close to four Pinocchios, says the Washington Post.

He did have large legal debts, but $16 million is clearly wrong.

In any case, he and his wife were able to quickly dig themselves out of that hole.

As for the sexual harassment policy, he was simply implementing federal guidelines, an odd thing to brag about given the circumstances.

Okay, so the circumstance was:

let's just use Paula Jones here.

I was curious

when I read this.

You know, that's interesting coming from the Washington Post.

You know, when did they change their view?

And then I remembered: wait a minute, in 2016,

Donald Trump brought Kathleen Willie, who was absolutely raped by Bilklin, in my opinion.

Looking at what Kathleen, you remember her?

Yeah,

she's the one who's just

a rock, solid, credible woman who said he came into her hotel room.

She was asking for help.

He threw her down on the bed, bit her lip, raped her, and then said, hey, you were great.

I'm having a difficult time sorting through the rape victims of this particular person.

Yes, I think I do remember.

So remember, they were brought in during the debate to unsettle Hillary Clinton.

What did the press do?

Nothing.

They didn't talk about those guys.

They never talked about those guys.

That was just a stunt.

In fact, what did the Washington Post say?

In 2016, when Clinton was confronting serious accusations of abuse, the country had a different attitude towards women.

They came forward with unverified and often unverifiable accounts of sexual abuse.

They were dismissed, blah, blah, blah.

They lacked witnesses, evidence, and immediate reporting to the authorities.

They talk about the witness.

No?

Specifically about the witnesses.

No, they lacked witnesses, evidence, and immediate reporting to authorities.

And immediate reporting, not to authorities, but to this person.

I mean, they have the witness, and there was immediate reporting right after.

No, no, no, no.

In 2016, the Washington Post.

I don't know what your source is, but The Washington Post said.

2018 Washington Post.

No, but this came first.

Always, what comes first is always better.

That's a knockoff.

Oh, okay.

This is like the Washington Post classic.

Okay.

So Paula Jones says that while working as a $6.35 an hour Arkansas state employee, she would summon to the hotel room of Clinton and the governor.

John, look, look, why would you point out

how much money she makes per hour?

That it's no way a $6

an hour employee is going to be called up by the governor.

She's a stupid, stupid, ignorant trailer tracker.

And if she is, she's got to know what's going to happen, right?

She's going if she's at it for money.

Yeah, $6.35 an hour.

I mean, she knows what she's going up there for.

And all of a sudden, now she has a problem with it.

I mean, that is a, there's no reason to include that detail there.

No.

Uh-uh.

But they did.

The Washington Post did in 2016.

She had hoped that she could discuss a promotion, but instead she said he grabbed her.

The Clinton defense strategy centered on

blatantly misogynistic practices.

They give them quotas for that.

The progressive feminist, traditionally liberal late-night comics, did their part to discredit and ridicule the women.

But in an act of proto-revenge,

an ex-boyfriend of Jones sold private sexual photographs of her to penthouse a few months after her claim became public.

She immediately was the fodder for harsh jokes, many focusing on her appearance.

Several years later, she capitalized on her notoriety by posing nude for the magazine, further marginalizing herself.

Well, wait a minute.

You're now marginalized when you take

a brave step?

I mean, how many times have we heard that sex work shouldn't be demeaned, right?

The fact that she, again, what was the first circumstance of those pictures?

Private photos?

Yes.

Private photos of the boyfriend.

So revenge porn.

Yes.

Yes.

But that's now okay, too.

It's another justification to say that she's not, her claims aren't credible.

She was just going after money.

And then it was revenge porn, and then she had discredited herself, and so she had to make that money.

So she went and did penthouse, which only made things worse.

This is...

Look, I'm glad the Washington Post is telling the truth about this.

Woke.

I'm glad they have now woken up.

And I'm glad.

I think the kids nowadays just say woke.

I'm glad they're woke.

I'm glad they woke.

My issue here is: this is a lot of times,

and I feel like I defend the media sometimes.

I think the idea that everything that's printed in the Washington Post and the New York Times is fake news is nonsense.

It's not.

They do a lot of really good reporting.

Right, but sometimes they get sustained.

And sometimes they do both on the same story.

Yeah.

But the issue is they get so frustrated and so, they're so apoplectic about conservatives pointing out how frustrating their coverage is.

They get so upset about it.

And it's like, how can you look at stuff like this and not see that there is a double standard?

There does seem to be a massive agenda.

No.

No, Stu.

I don't know.

No.

I don't know, Glenn.

No.

No.

If I may loosely quote the Washington Post in their defense,

it was a different time.

It was a different time.

2016 was a different time.

It was a different time.

No, in 2016, they were saying that it was a different time.

Yes, we didn't pay attention to those things, and who knows about the past, but now it's different.

Now it's different.

Now we are, now we know.

Back then, women were seen as, you know,

people that would just make up stories of sexual harassment for cash.

And now

something else.

Now they're not?

Now we don't think that some of these stories are made up for cash?

I mean,

clearly they are, because it still happens.

Some are, some are not.

Some are, some are not.

Can I ask, because you brought this up,

how our standards change.

And you brought up the term woke.

So let me ask a question because you're obviously an expert on being woke.

Oh, I am Glenn Beck woke.

Woke Glenn Beck.

Yeah.

Is it woke?

Yeah.

Is it woke

to do what we're doing now, which is to claim that Monica Lewinsky was a victim of something?

Now, I feel personally bad for Monica Lewinsky because of

after she made, I think, a big mistake, she really paid a high price for it,

probably disproportionate.

Way higher than anyone should ever have to pay for it.

So I'm with you on that.

But this is a 23-year-old woman, not a 15-year-old woman, a 23-year-old woman.

Our own Marissa, who is our producer here, is 25 and also married.

How many people are married?

My mom gave birth to me married at 19.

The idea that Monica Lewinsky doesn't have the agency to make her own own choices about her own sex life is not a woke sentiment.

No, Stu.

No, no.

Women are, you don't understand.

Women are powerful, okay?

Yes, I would agree with that.

But you don't understand.

I don't.

I'm not a very powerful man preying on a young woman.

And what was her choice there?

Did she have a choice to say, yes, I would like to enter what was, by all accounts, a consensual

affair.

That was the argument by all of the feminists at the time.

Yes.

Now all of the feminists of this time have convinced Monica Lewinsky that she really didn't have a choice.

And that's what she's saying now.

She's saying, I was, you know, look, I didn't understand the power structure was different.

Look, yes, he's the most powerful man in the world, right?

I mean, you know, yeah, he was very powerful.

However, each individual has agency to make choices about consensual affairs.

They don't have agency to make choices against Harvey Weinstein, who's forcing them to have sex with him and trapping them and raping them.

They don't have choices there, but they do have choices to enter into a consensual affair with another consenting adult.

The arguments that she was this

little girl with no agency were arguments that conservatives made in the 90s to say Bill Clinton was a predator.

However, we should all, and I and I said this at the time as well.

When you're 23 years old, you have a choice to be able to enter into a consensual relationship with someone else if you wish.

You are a consenting adult.

Okay, okay, Grandpa, thank you very much for that cute little opinion.

Look,

16 years old, you should be able to vote.

But at 23, if you get into a consensual relationship, you have every right to claim to be a victim later in life.

I mean, it only makes sense.

It only makes sense.

Why?

All right.

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Wow, it is amazing to watch progressive politicians enact more and more progressive policies as if the policies were the default wishes of everybody.

They were all sitting around going, man,

I just wish

we could

have some sort of a law in place where we only could use 50 gallons of water.

A former advisor to President Obama, Ben Rhodes, he wrote after Trump's election night victory, Obama asked his aides, what if we were wrong?

I mean, I wonder whether I was 10 or 20 years too early.

I don't know.

I could have put your administration off another 20 years and been happy.

Maybe it's just me.

But what Obama was talking about was his administration's progressivism was just too awesome for America to handle.

Now, in this thinking, America couldn't yet appreciate what he was bringing to the table.

It was exactly the same thing that happened with Woodrow Wilson.

What a surprise.

Who thought, you know, my League of Nations, everybody is the right thing.

Everybody's going to love it.

We just have to repackage it and call it the United Nations.

And he thinks he was so far ahead of his time that that is why people rebelled and voted in Donald Trump.

It's not because progressive policies go against human nature and more and more every day go against

established science.

No, no, it's because people are too conservative or too stupid, too dumb to know what's good for them.

Obama and his fellow progressives all across the land just don't get it yet.

Progressives continue to sprint towards the fringe of the left, thumbing their nose at Americans that don't agree with them.

Common sense, science, rational thought.

This week's example, New York City.

The city council speaker Corey Johnson, he's introducing introducing a new proposal to allow adults to choose the new gender category of X on their birth certificate parents in New York City already have the option of declaring the sex of their baby to be you know male female or undetermined or unknown I don't know honey

look at it what do you think it is I don't know

What's that thing?

I don't know.

Mark it down, unknown or undetermined.

It's really weird.

We don't have this problem with our pets.

Somehow or another, we're able to determine from birth whether Fido is male or female.

And with a name like Fido, I'm hoping it is a male.

Otherwise, the oppression of that poor slave dog that you have.

Yet city and state governments are now endorsing the lie that you can't trust

whatever it is you have in your pants.

Okay?

You cannot trust the science of X and Y.

You have to listen to your heart, no matter what science says.

Oh,

oh my.

Now, Councilman Corey Johnson says, this is about making it easier for people to be who they truly are.

No, no, no, no, no.

We can look at your DNA.

We can look at the genetic code and we can find out you're male, you're female.

we can find that out it's an x or a y that's it we do that with babies all the time we can just we just check it's male or female x or y we know that's how it works i'm not a scientist but i am a doctor he says it is important for people to be able to express who they really are and to let them know that New York City understands them and has their back.

Really, I lived in New York City.

The only part of my back that New York City had was where I kept my wallet.

Mayor de Blasio adds, this policy, quote, will make our city fairer.

No, it won't.

It'll make it more insane.

It must be nice when you're a progressive to say things like that and not have to back it up.

Yes, by

looking at our children in their crib and saying, I don't know, honey, could be a male, could be a female, could be a turnip.

I'm not sure.

Somehow or another, that's going to make your city better.

By the way, I think it is appropriate that when you mark your birth certificate, if you want to be unknown or

I don't know what that is, if you want that, all you have to do

is mark it with an X.

Why is that important?

One of the most incredible and rare signatures that we have in our collection in our Mercury Museum, it's the only one that we know of that's in existence,

is the autograph or signature of a guy named Peter Salem.

He is the hero of Bunker Hill.

He's a black man.

He was illiterate.

Couldn't read nor write.

His autograph is an X.

Back then, an X marking on a document used to be a sign of illiteracy.

It's funny

because now in New York City, it still is.

The sign of an X apparently represents those who are gender illiterate.

It's Tuesday, June 5th.

This is the Glenbeck program.

So

somebody came up to me the other day and they started telling me a story of

how they found out if Peter, St.

Peter, was actually buried under the Vatican.

And it has all the workings of a great story.

It's the Pope, but it's the Nazi Pope.

And it's happening during the Second World War, all intrigue.

They don't want anybody to know that they're digging underneath the Vaticans, the Vatican.

It involves the archives and all kinds of great stuff.

How do we know where St.

Peter is?

Because at the time, people were starting to say the Saint Peter didn't even go to Rome.

He didn't even go to Rome and he wasn't crucified upside down.

None of that stuff.

You can't trust any of that stuff.

So the Pope starts to look.

for the fisherman's tomb.

That is the name of the book, True Story of the Vatican Secret Search.

John O'Neill is the author, and he joins us now.

Hi, John.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

It's a great honor to be on your show.

Thank you.

So, John, I'm fascinated by this story.

In a nutshell, just tell the part of the story first about St.

Peter and

where he was supposedly buried and why they didn't know at the time where he was.

Glenn, St.

Peter was

executed by Nero around 65 A.D.

Nero, the Roman Emperor, notorious bad guy, had burned down the center of Rome to build a huge new palace for himself.

And when people started to revolt, he blamed the fire on the Christians.

By legend, St.

Peter was captured by Nero and then crucified upside down since he didn't want to be crucified in the same manner as Christ.

His body was thrown on a nearby hill where there was a dump.

And the name of that hill was Vatican Hill.

Much later, Constantine showed up,

legalized Christianity around 310 A.D., and he built a great church, the first St.

Peter's on that hill.

He had to flatten a hill in order to do it, burying everything underneath the new church.

Legend said that he built it directly over the grave of Peter, but until these excavations, nothing knew about it.

In

1939,

they began to bury the old Pope under the Vatican, where he strangely wanted wanted to be buried.

And the workmen who was digging fell suddenly down into a room, about 30 feet into a room.

And it was a room of fabulous Roman murals and statuary that no one had any idea was under the Vatican.

They looked a little further, found the tomb of a Christian woman from the early 2nd century.

And that's when Pius decided to pursue the legend that St.

Peter was buried under St.

Peter's.

That was 1940.

Okay.

So

it was legend, and it was also starting to be used against Christianity to discredit the Bible and everything else and say that, you know, St.

Peter never even came here.

All of that stuff is nonsense.

And quite honestly, some of the stuff that Constantine said was nonsense,

or at least, you know, just on the word of his mother.

It wasn't scholarly at the time.

So

the Pope was motivated to find the truth,

and why did he think that he would find it there?

Or is that why he kept it secret, this hunt for St.

Peter?

Well, he kept it secret for a couple of reasons, I think.

First,

Italy was ruled by the fascists and then by the Nazis.

Had they actually discovered that this search was in progress, they probably would have seized control of it.

Second, he didn't want any false rumors, either success or failure, to come out.

So he insisted that all the excavations be done by hand.

So you can imagine trying to excavate over a million

square feet of fill by hand under this huge structure overhead, immensely expensive.

So they came here amazingly to Texas.

secured financing from one of the wealthiest men in the world at the time who provided it anonymously under express agreement that his name would never never be known.

A man named George Strake, who gave away a great fortune anonymously, as the book relates.

I have to tell you,

John, reading your book, I had no idea who this guy was, Strake.

I've never heard of him.

I never heard of his oil strike.

What was the name of that?

It was the Great East Tonro Field.

It was the third largest oil field ever discovered in the United States.

He produced over 500 million barrels to his interest alone during World War II.

He would be thrilled, Glenn.

He gave away everything anonymously.

He would be thrilled to know that neither you nor anybody else had ever heard of him, that there was no Wikipedia entry.

He gave away many hundreds of millions of dollars, always under express condition that no one mention his name, that no one know.

He believed in the biblical passage that said you can either claim credit in this world or in the next world.

After his death, things began to be named for him, like Strake High School and Strake

scout camps all over the country.

But that was only after he died.

He doesn't even have a Wikipedia entry.

He believed strongly that the oil field was given to him by God to use the proceeds during his life to give them all away.

He said often the oil companies laughed at him.

He couldn't get anyone to back him when he drilled this great well.

And he said they didn't realize realize God was on his shoulder.

He was a wildcat or a team of two.

And he gave it all away, all the way during his life.

Yeah, he drilled

that first hole with his last dollar.

And I love the promise that you write about that.

He says to his wife,

you know, can we do that?

And she said, only if we hit it, you never, ever question my shopping bills.

That's exactly right.

George was sort of parsimaneous, except incredibly generous in giving the money away.

His wife, Susan, said, Look, George, you can drill as long as you promise she'll never question anything else I buy.

She became one of the most famous shoppers in the world, really.

They, of course, became close friends with Frank Sinatra, with many movie stars, all Susan's doing, as opposed to George.

So, John, I'm going to take a break.

When we come back, I want to take us now back to the Vatican and the part of the story where we have this woman who at the time,

women are not going to be doing this kind of work a very important woman that nobody's ever heard of and

he the pope reaches out into the reichstag to grab a priest from the reichstag and how they found saint peter's tomb and know that it is him

we'll go there in just a minute

Let me see if I can find this story here real quickly.

There is

a really,

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Here it is.

Here it is.

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So we're talking about the search for

St.

Peter underneath the Vatican, looking for his bones.

During the Second World War, Pope Pius brings in a guy named Klaus.

He's a priest.

He was working in the Reichstag and not popular with Hitler, believe it or not.

It would be kind of an unnerving place to be if you weren't popular with Hitler.

He was called back to Rome to help, but also another woman,

her name is, is it Margarita Garducci?

That's it, exactly.

Glenn,

she was like you.

She was a person of great faith and great courage.

She was a diamond bit for the truth.

After everything had gone sort of,

they had found the monument that supposedly marked Peter's grave 60 feet below the Vatican, but not the actual relics of Peter, they brought her in.

She was one of the greatest archaeological experts in the world.

She was an agnostic.

They asked her just to take a look at what they had done.

She told them they had done a terrible job.

The Pope's solution was to fire everybody and put her in charge, which didn't go over very well with the Vatican bureaucracy.

She became deeply a Christian as a result of what she saw.

She found the earliest Christian inscriptions really in the world,

done generally in code.

Peter was a set of keys.

Christ was a Cairo symbol.

She found a wall within 16 inches of the plum bob down from the top of the Vatican and in that on the wall were 20 different prayers asking Peter to pray for various things and she found the words Peter is within and Peter is near she learned that there had been bones in the wall and she got the bones which had been placed in storage turned them over to the best forensic anthropologist in the world They were the bones of a 60 to 70 year old man.

He had been crucified upside down.

His feet were cut off when they took him down from the cross.

He had been about 5'8 ⁇ .

The bones had been buried in the soil under the monument the Christians had erected around 100 A.D., but moved into the wall about 250, probably to save them from Roman desecration.

They'd been wrapped in a purple and gold cloth.

After the forensic anthropologists looked at it, they concluded it was Peter, and the Pope declared it was Peter.

And there is a great deal of other evidence that it's Peter in addition to that.

But

she was incredibly courageous.

She went to the Pope and said, hey, these guys have done a terrible job.

And

she had no political skill, but she was probably the greatest archaeological detective of the 20th century.

But not only in solving this.

They were looking for a room with a golden cross and a large bronze sarcophagus that apparently Constantine had buried.

And

they found this, and then there was nothing in it, right?

And it was part of what was called the Book of the Popes.

Well, yeah,

there were three different things telling us, or early things, that told us Peter had been buried on Vatican Hill under St.

Peter's.

One of them was the Book of the Popes, which described a grand burial with gold crosses.

It also said that Peter would be found directly

under the

in the center of the Vatican.

It was right on the second thing and completely wrong on the first thing.

There was no gold cross.

There was no bronze sarcophagus.

They were simply the relics of Peter himself.

And just

the simple engravings that only she really had picked up on

that said this is where he is.

They were less than 400 yards from Nero's palace.

If any of the people carving that into that wall had been caught, they would have been crucified or thrown to wild animals.

Their families would have been enslaved, everything they owned.

And they would literally sit and engrave it on this wall.

John.

Thank you so much.

The name of the book is The Fisherman's Tomb, The Fisherman's Tomb by John O'Neill.

It's available everywhere.

Pick it up.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I've been spending a lot of time

working on my new book, Addicted to Outrage, which covers a little bit of everything and explains why we are addicted to outrage

how do you mean how did that happen and what does it mean if we can't get out of this cycle and it includes all kinds of things and one section is on tech and what is coming with tech and uh have you read that chapter yet stu yeah

yes i have it's a little it's a little terrifying it's a little terrifying and it's probably literally one-tenth of what i want to put in the book but if i put the rest of of it in the book, it becomes a tech book.

I mean, it is.

Yeah, you would have been fine writing a tech book, probably.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is a very high-level, you know, 40 pages in the book of just, here's what's on the horizon.

And

none of this is crazy talk.

These aren't flying cars.

This is on the horizon.

And it's not just, there's not pointless, like, I want to talk about tech reasons.

It's why.

It's why all this other stuff matters.

Yeah.

It really is is like, it kind of boils down why, why this stuff needs to be talked about now and not later.

Yeah.

I had somebody last night read

these three chapters that are just on, okay, here's why we need to act right now.

I talked to him this morning and he was like, oh, okay, all right.

I couldn't, okay,

I have to look all of that stuff up because

That's true.

Yeah, that's happening.

Yeah.

Holy cow.

It's happening and it's going to happen at record speed.

Let me give you something that just came out, I think, yesterday or a couple of days ago.

Nvidia has just launched an AI computer that will give robots brains.

to be able to move, be able to do all kinds of 3D mapping, be able to have conversations with you, be able to recognize you, multiple faces, do multiple things, and be able to exist in a 3D world.

Okay?

Now, that's quite a computer.

Let me tell you about the computer that they just

released.

It is the new Jetson Xavier computer.

It's an incredibly compact piece of hardware,

and it has a number of processing components.

A lot of this is not going to make sense, but just hear me out for a second.

The Volta Tensor Core GPU, an 8-core ARM64 CPU, two NVDLA deep learning accelerators, and processors for static images and video.

In total, it contains more than 9 billion transistors,

more than 9 billion transistors, and delivers over 30 tops, which is trillion operations per second.

Sorry, 30 trillion

computations operations per second.

That's significant.

It consumes in power,

I mean it's pretty power draining, 30 watts to run, which is half of what it takes to run the average light bulb.

Now let me give you let me give you a

Let me let me give you some some perspective on 30 teraflops, 30 trillion operations per second on 30 watts of power in a mobile brain.

Let me give you this.

Do you remember way

back

if we got into our DeLorean time machine and we went back to

it was

19 years ago,

next month or two months from now, August.

of 1999, Apple came out with something.

And it was the Power Mac

Now, I remember because we bought one of these in about 2002, and I think it was about $10,000.

And it was state-of-the-art,

fastest thing available.

I couldn't believe we needed a $10,000

CPU, but we had to have it because of all the mixing we were doing and all of the processing and the crunching.

This was the only thing.

It was $10,000.

It was actually at the time banned from export

because it was classified as a supercomputer that could be used to harm national security.

Okay,

the Apple G4.

It did 2,775 million operations per second.

That means this new computer is 1.08 million

percent faster

than the G4.

Can do, can it can have 1.08 million percent increase in processing power.

The G4

was $10,000.

This

is just over $1,000.

That is

stunning.

Now, what this does again is allows a computer to be able to go out and be nimble and live and

start to work in the real world next to other living things.

On a completely unrelated note,

researchers at MIT

who are looking for algorithms and the search for AIAGIASI

got together and thought

I wonder

I wonder if we could make an algorithm that became psychopathic

now when I'm with my friends of researchers who are studying algorithms AI and AGI I say I don't know but maybe we shouldn't find out

But they decided that they were going to try to

make a psychopathic algorithm.

And so what they did at MIT

was

they gave training of this AI.

They trained it all on data from the dark web.

So it showed it

horrible films, horrible images, all the time.

What on earth are they doing?

Right?

Right?

Showed the showed people dying in the most gruesome circumstances

and just fed it all of this to see what would happen to the algorithm.

Well, what do you think happened to the algorithm?

Got a little dark.

Got a little dark.

Did a Rorchak test, you know, those tests where they show, you know, the ink blocks.

Hey, what's this?

Every time, somebody being slaughtered in a bathtub.

What's this one?

Somebody be set on fire.

What's this one?

All the time.

It cannot think any other pattern other than psychopathic.

Now, I'm just saying that maybe

we should look at that one and go, good, okay, we know it can be done.

Let's erase all of that and never do it again.

Right now, one of the problems

with

where we're going with AI and researchers from all over the world, we are being left in the dust.

We have to decide whether or not we're serious or not, whether we believe that the West is the one that should have the key

to AI and AGI and possibly ASI, super intelligence.

Because once we have general intelligence or superintelligence, whoever cracks this code, as Putin says, rules the world.

China is moving at light speed on it.

Russia is doing the same.

We're really kind of not.

I mean, some of our organizations, Google, we are, but we're not really working together.

And perhaps there needs to be some sort of a Manhattan project, but I do not want to give this technology to the government.

So I don't know exactly what to do because I don't trust anybody who is working on this anywhere.

Because remember, fear the goals.

Fear what it is being taught.

Example, MIT.

Fear what it's being taught because it will have total control.

Now, the scientists have come around from

all over the world, and they have signed a treaty and said that none of us, scientists, should work on this, but they are.

None of us should work on this.

And governments should not be allowed to weaponize AI.

And the governments are getting around this, and people are, you know, closing that loop in their head by saying, oh, yeah, but you know what?

Yes, yes, I'm making an automated drone that does carry weapons and can seek people out by their faces and can kill them, but

still requires the human to push the button to say, yes, I accept that's the target.

If we are training AI to search and kill humans, and that is their goal and their job, remember, they don't have general intelligence.

Their intelligence is just to search and kill enemies.

Whoever is told that's an enemy.

That's their job.

Just like the psychopathic algorithm at MIT, it's only been fed information.

People need to be killed.

If it goes into AGI and has any kind of

goal that says kill all of the enemies,

if it decides to change the parameters of enemies, or it just shuts off our override switch and decides, you know what, they're too stupid.

They don't even understand.

We cannot treat, we cannot teach these things to kill us.

Russia's doing it.

China's doing it.

India is doing it.

Everyone is doing it.

Should we not?

While we are sitting here and we are talking about nonsense,

As we are sitting here talking about the things that, oh, what, did you see what he tweeted today?

Did you see what happened with Philadelphia and the Eagles?

We should be talking about

ideas and thoughts and how to draw parameters around the things that will actually impact all of us every single day.

Because whether you know it or not,

we look at our computers as, oh, yeah, okay, they've gotten faster.

Look at our phones.

Oh, it's just a phone.

No.

Look at what has happened

in the last 19

years.

Look at the speed of the computer, the size of the computer, the size of the energy

consumption, and what was

a threat to national security,

now something that is a million times more powerful.

Yeah, this is going to be used, you know, on the floors of Lowe's with their new little help bots.

It's not a problem.

Let me just design that for the computer here at Lowe's Hardware.

Let us not be the show that tries to minimize the impact of the Philadelphia Eagles.

However,

we do have to talk about that.

We do have to talk about that.

Unfortunately, I saw that last night and I'm like, oh, geez, I'm going to talk to us too much.

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I mean, I just, you know, I will never enjoy the insertion of politics into this particular route.

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I mean, look, the Eagles didn't kneel last year.

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Did they go into the locker room?

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They did not.

Malcolm Jenkins was one of their star players, is one of the most outspoken people on this issue.

However, he put his

fist in the air for a few games this year.

But, I mean,

they didn't have Colin Kaepernick on their team.

I don't know

why that's part of the narrative.

You know, look, a lot of them weren't coming.

You know, if you have a giant party and you invite 53 people and only four are coming, I don't know that you canceled on them, but that's kind of the way that it is.

It's just a matter of making this into yet another cultural issue.

And

I just wish, you know, it's not.

They didn't come.

And I think that personally, I understand everybody has a freedom of choice.

But

would you have gone if

Barack Obama would have invited us to the White House?

would you have gone?

I mean, if you forced me to go, I would have probably gone just as a work requirement.

However, I would not be interested in going.

Well, I didn't say I would be.

Well, no,

I'd be interested because

why are you inviting us, right?

Yeah.

But if there was some sort of thing that we had done and he was like, okay, we're going to honor, you wouldn't have gone.

No, no.

Can I tell you a story in history when we come back?

Yeah, definitely.

That should make the new

Eagles question what they've just done?

Mercury.

Glenn back.

It's Tuesday, June 5th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So

the Philadelphia Eagles and Donald Trump are in a spat.

And they're in a spat because a bunch of them didn't want to go to the White House.

And

I was thinking about this, and I thought about this since Bill Clinton was in office.

When Bill Clinton was in office and he was doing despicable things, there were people that said, I won't shake his hand.

And I always said at the time, he's the president of the United States.

Out of respect, you shake the man's hand.

Out of respect for the office, can we not be civil to one another?

So

Barack Obama never in

what a surprise, never invited me or anybody else that I know to the Oval Office

or to the White House just to meet.

And I said to Stu,

if the president would have asked you to come and speak, Barack Obama, would you have gone?

And you said...

I would politely decline.

Really?

Yes.

Why?

I'm not interested.

I don't hold the President of the United States up on some pedestal of subservience or anything else.

I think there's an idea that this is such an amazing power seat that you're supposed to bow down to it.

I didn't say bow down to it.

Just go out of courtesy.

Somebody, the president.

I would offer him.

Look, if

Bob, who is a plumber in Montana, asked me to come visit, if I was really interested, I would go visit.

And if not, I would politely decline.

That's the same treatment the President of the United States should get.

So this is for any president.

I mean, like, you know, if a president who I absolutely adored wanted me to go there, then I'd probably be be interested enough to go.

Sure.

I mean, we've visited former presidents before for interviews and stuff.

And obviously, there's work requirements and things like that.

But I think generally speaking, if I'm just asked to go,

I'm not one over the world.

It's a tradition.

Let's go where the Eagles then.

It's a tradition that if you're the winning team, you go to the White House.

It is.

You know,

when Obama was in office, there was a guy who was a fan of yours who was the goaltender for the Boston Bruins.

And he he

said, no.

He said no.

He didn't want to go.

What was our stance on that at the time?

I mean, if you don't want to go, you don't want to go.

At that time, of course, the media was all over him.

It was a terrible thing.

It was an insult.

He surprised himself to that office, to the old office.

How would you never go?

I mean, and now, you know, I mean, look, there's reports that between four and ten Eagles players were going to go to meet with Trump today.

Now, if you cancel that, the only people you punish are the people who actually wanted to go see you.

Right.

If I were the president, if I were Trump, what I would have done is I would have said, oh, there's only four, good,

because we're going to Area 51.

You know what I mean?

You guys are going to be able to launch weapons.

I would show you.

Good.

I'm glad there's only four because we're going to do stuff that nobody's ever able to do.

And that way they all go home and go, we saw the aliens, dude.

You should have come.

That's what I would have done.

I showed them something really cool,

but yeah, I mean, the players that were going are the people who really wanted to meet him, right?

And I mean, especially when most of your team isn't going to walk across that line is a real,

you're sticking your neck out a little bit to go see the president and then they cancel it.

So now

remember, I'm the guy who went to the oval after calling for the president to be impeached.

Yes, Bush.

Yeah.

Now, and you have a different, I mean, I

really resist trying,

you know, the attempt to feel won over by that office because I think it's a

and I think you are too.

I mean, I think, generally speaking, you are too.

You're looking at it as a respectful thing, which I think is the office.

I don't mind being won over by the office and the principles the office stands for.

I'm not going to be won over by the man.

Right.

You know what I mean?

I'm not a fan.

I didn't go

and look at George Bush and go, oh, he's such a great guy.

I like him now.

I still had deep issues with him.

My opinion of him changed because of private conversations,

but I was still hostile towards him at the end of his relationship on my return.

I was positive on some of the things I was very negative about.

For instance, what we spoke about.

which I wanted to speak about was the border.

He refused to.

We did speak about the war, which I was also very much against at the time and thought you're fighting this way to lose.

Yeah, we're fighting this to lose.

We're not fighting this to win.

What are we doing?

We had a long, hour-long conversation about that, and that changed my mind.

Uh, when you know, we didn't talk about the border and the border guards, and that pissed me off.

So I wasn't won over by the office, and I'm not suggesting that.

Here's what I'm trying to get to:

if President Obama or President Trump or Bush or Clinton or anybody invited me to the Oval Office, I would go.

And I would go and I would be polite and I would shake hands and I wouldn't be belligerent.

I would be clear on what I believe,

but I would listen.

And the reason why I say this, you should read the book, Freedom's Forge.

There's one scene in this book, Freedom's Forge, and it's about how in 1939,

we knew war was coming and we were in trouble.

I mean, our guys had to train, I think in 1941, we were still training with broomsticks, literally.

We didn't have enough guns.

And so

as soon as Poland was invaded, FDR knew, oh crap, we're screwed.

And so

he called somebody from Detroit.

His name was Bill Knutson, I think.

And Bill was this guy

who was just a scrappy kind of fighter.

And he was, when he was young, he actually was the guy who ran the floor for Henry Ford.

He's the guy.

He's the guy responsible for the assembly line, not Henry Ford.

Henry Ford screwed it up twice.

He opened it up an assembly line, it failed.

He opened up a second one, it failed.

The third time, Knutson was there and it succeeded because he said, no, no, no, you're doing it wrong.

You have to lay everything out so nobody is walking too far to get the stuff.

You have to line it up in a certain way.

So he's the guy who did that.

And he built Ford into what it was.

By the time he, you know, had real juice at Ford and Ford was popular, he was like, dude, we have got to get other colors and other models.

People want something else.

And Henry Ford was not into it and really hated that idea.

And so Bill went over to GM, which was this fledgling company.

He took it and he built it into a real challenger, which actually beat Ford in a relatively short period of time.

Now, during the Great Depression, Bill was looked at as an enemy of the people because he's just this rich guy, this powerful guy who's oppressing his workers and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Okay.

And FDR was going after him because the unions didn't like the boss of GM.

And so FDR was putting this guy's life in a ringer and anti-capitalist and everything else.

And this guy was a very big American freedom kind of voluntary service kind of guy.

FDR

calls him.

Hitler's come into Poland and he says,

Bill, I need to see you in Washington on Monday.

So on Friday night, he's sitting down for dinner with his family and he says, Mr.

Roosevelt called me today and said, he wants to meet with me in his office.

I don't know what he wants to talk to me about.

And his family says, you're not going, are you, Dad?

And he said, why?

He said, Dad,

this guy has tried to destroy everything we believe in.

He has tried to destroy you personally.

our finances, your company.

We believe he's doing great damage to the capitalist system.

He is our enemy.

And he sat at the table and he said,

no, he's the president of the United States.

And while I don't have to agree with him, I should at least hear him out and meet with him.

So here's this, quote-unquote, these two enemies coming together and meeting.

And he says, Roosevelt says to him, Bill, we're in trouble.

And you're the only guy I know that can do it.

And he said, Mr.

President, your anti

business policies and your government controls are killing us.

We can't do it like that.

He said, Bill, I'll give you power.

You can order what you need.

You can do what you need.

But we need stuff.

We need tanks.

We need airplanes.

So

he did it.

1941, because he didn't have enough power from FDR.

FDR fired him, got another guy, but it was already too late.

He got a new dealer in there, but it was already too late because Bill had set up this system with all of the factories to where they were just cranking stuff out, but it hadn't hit yet.

We were making, what do we make?

40 billion?

I think 40 billion bullets in like,

I think a year?

It was crazy amounts.

We provided three quarters of all of the armaments for all of the Allied forces.

Three quarters of the ships, the airplanes, the bullets, everything.

And it's all because of that one guy and all because of that one meeting and all because he said, look, I don't have to agree with him.

I don't have to like him and he didn't have to like me, but I should take the meeting.

I think there's something important about that.

And it's the way we move.

You know, I heard a song today

and it said,

There was just a line, it takes a lot of rain.

I don't remember what the song was.

It takes a lot of rain.

And I thought to myself, I don't even know what this song is about, but man,

it does.

For us to grow, it does take rain.

It takes

those hard, rainy, cloudy, stormy days to be able to grow.

If he wouldn't have had that day,

we were building Liberty ships.

We were building ships,

releasing an entire ship from start to finish in five days.

Five.

Can you imagine that?

Five days for a liberty ship.

And those are the ships that save the world.

Yeah, I mean, you know, look, he was uniquely qualified to help something really important.

Luckily, I have no discernible skills.

So I would never be in that position.

Right, yeah, I guess.

But I mean, you're right.

There are certainly circumstances.

When you're talking about fighting off the Nazis and you're the one guy guy that can make it happen, yeah,

you take the freaking meeting, right?

And I think, you know, look, as I said, I would, you know, if you had to go and it was part of my work requirements and whatever.

Oh, stop it.

I can't get you to, I couldn't get you to go to Canada with me.

Oh, I'm a Canadian sports hero.

Of course, I'd go to Canada.

But yeah, no, I would not go to some of those crazy, you know, risky places that you like to go, like, you know, Mexico,

like southern Texas,

all those places.

California.

But yeah, no, I mean, look, you're right.

I think, look, there's a respect for your office.

That doesn't mean that necessarily, you know,

there's a

temptation, I think, by people that, you know, like, hey, wow, what an amazing thing it would be to meet with someone with all that power.

And like, you got to fight that instinct off.

Right?

Like, I.

I appreciate the fact that you can go and say, you're, that you're a free citizen and the president can beckon and say, hey, I want you to stop by.

And you can say, no, I really cannot take you.

I cannot take you.

And I'm not going to give you the opportunity for a photo opportunity with me.

You know what I mean?

And that's what a sports figure could feel like or something like that.

So I guess I can understand that.

I'd love to hear our opinion from when that sports figure did that in

under Obama.

Oh, Thomas, yeah.

Yeah, it would be interesting to see

where we stood on that.

I mean, I think he did, and he did it outwardly because he was not a fan of the president.

Right.

And I agree with your right to do that.

I mean, I have no hard feelings on that.

I just wonder, you know,

is there no decorum?

Is there no decorum?

And maybe there shouldn't be.

Maybe Stu is right.

There shouldn't be.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be anything.

No, no, no.

You know what I mean.

That you don't say, you know, this is a tradition.

We go, we have our photo taken with the president and yada, yada, yada.

I mean, here's what I don't like.

The president has been outwardly, outwardly antagonistic against the league, right?

I mean,

it's not just that they disagree with him on a policy, even.

He's been outwardly antagonistic against the league, where they get their salary.

They're the eagles.

They should be used to people being outwardly against them.

That's a fair point.

That's a fair point.

I mean, I think the president did the right thing.

You might might get an iceball in the head.

Don't invite the Eagles to the White House.

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I get maybe I'm maybe it's my age that is making me,

I don't know.

I've always felt, I mean, you worked with me during the Clinton Lewinsky years.

You're always very respectful of the office, the presidency.

I may not like the president, but I

am going.

I have never had a president

be nice to me ever.

George W.

Bush was fairly...

You didn't have a bad meeting with George W.

Bush.

I tell you what happened.

With George Bush well there's I'm not saying every moment of your life I think I'm gonna I gotta tell you what happened with George W.

Bush no no no you I don't think you know this story so we get a call

um

somebody somebody in my office is talking to somebody in his office about something and they were like oh we were doing something for charity And you know, those paintings that I did of George W.

Bush.

And so it was for charity.

And so I was going to have him run over to Bush and have him sign it.

Not for my charity, for Chuck Norris's charity.

Right.

And

so we call, and the person says,

I'm not sure

that

that will work.

That he would sign the picture.

Yeah.

And why, I mean, I'm not saying you've had a great relationship with the guy.

You've been critical of him on the air and such, but.

Quote,

because of what Mr.

Beck did

with the Dalai Lama and George Bush's speech.

And I was like, and so that's what she comes, my sister comes back to me and she's like, what the hell did you do?

And I'm like, nothing.

What are you talking about?

Did I say something out there?

And she said, no, it happened apparently at his speech.

And you had met with the Dalai Lama and he was there and then he started giving a speech and something happened.

And I'm like,

what?

So she comes back.

Apparently you walked out of his speech.

I'm like, I would never walk out of the president's speech.

What?

I would never do it because you know me.

I would show deference to the president.

I would never.

Oh my gosh, I did.

Oh my gosh, I did.

And all of a sudden it came rushing back to me.

I have a medical condition and occasionally it will get so bad and Stu has seen me.

It doesn't happen often on the ground, almost every flight I'm on, it does, where it's almost like a seizure, but it's not.

And it's not good,

and it's not something that you really want to do in public.

And I was sitting next to my wife, and George Bush was being introduced, and I said,

Good God, honey, one of these things are coming on.

And she said,

You better get out of here before you cause a scene during his speech.

So I got, he started speaking,

and I get up and I'm getting up because I'm like, I've got to get out of here so I don't wreck his speech.

And he saw me and he's like, that son of a bitch

can't even sit here while I'm speaking about the Dalai Lama.

Wow, you're a jerk.

Unbelievable.

All right, back in a minute.

You know, I couldn't take, welcome to the program, Pat Cray.

I could not take last night the tweets still

at, you know, 11 o'clock at night.

The media is so dumb.

They're saying this was a narrow victory.

No.

It's not what.

I mean, really, you've had

14 hours to process this.

Normally, that's a, you know, that's not a long time, but in today's media world and with Twitter and Facebook, Facebook, corrections like that,

the whole world gangs up on you.

Usually within five minutes, that thumb is squelched.

Still last night, why do I so narrow?

No,

it wasn't a narrow margin.

It was narrow in its scope.

That was what it was.

And seemingly nobody got that.

And also, a lot of people were celebrating.

And I think also a lot of people on the left like nancy pelosi very upset because there is no equality i agree with her there is there is no equality if if you must kowtow

to someone's belief that goes against your belief

then there is no equality they are greater than you it's it you cannot say

No, no, you can't do that.

You can't live with them because you think that you're that way.

You can't do that.

Just like they can't say, you can't object to whatever because

you think that there is a God.

No,

you don't have to believe.

You don't have to accept.

You don't have to be a part.

That's the point.

I don't have to be a part of your religion.

I don't have to be a part of your relationship, whether it's heterosexual, homosexual, I don't have to be a part of it.

I don't have to be a part of your faith, your church.

I don't have to.

Leave me alone.

I will leave you alone.

What's what?

Why can we not get this?

I think that's a lot of people ask way too much.

It is.

I was amazed at all the conservative sites celebrating the ruling.

I don't, it wasn't that great.

I think it wasn't that great.

Can we talk about this one more time?

I really think

that what happened here was the Supreme Supreme Court saying, no, dummy,

don't

make fun of the religious stuff.

Ask them seriously,

think about it a while, and then say no.

I mean, I think you can come away with that conclusion.

I mean, you could also come away with the conclusion of, look, Colorado really did a bad job, and they're saying just that they did a bad job, and you have to take it seriously.

Well, that's what I mean.

Yeah, but it does send that signal, right?

It sends a signal.

It does mean just don't do a bad job on this.

You can absolutely come to the same conclusion, just not the way you did it.

And why won't the Supreme Court rule on the religious liberty issue?

Why don't you just make the ruling?

It's so easy.

Yeah.

It's in black and white in the Constitution.

It's so easy.

Just make the ruling.

Right now, you have people in the media saying,

Donald Trump cannot pardon himself.

Well, he cannot pardon himself from impeachment.

That If he's impeached, he's out.

If he's convicted, he's out.

He cannot pardon himself from that.

Can he pardon himself for a crime?

There's nothing in the Constitution that says he cannot.

There's everything in the Constitution that says he can pardon anyone he wants.

So it doesn't specifically say he can't pardon him.

Now, it seems pretty slimy if a president is like, I'm going to pardon myself,

but there's no answer on that one.

Everybody in the press is insisting that he cannot pardon himself.

I don't think he would.

No.

I don't think a president should.

But could he?

I don't know.

Maybe.

Constitutionally, maybe.

It's definitely an open question, and there's no resolution to it.

We know, you're right, impeachment is one limitation, and it's only federal crimes.

Yes.

Like it could, so a state-level crime theoretically he could not pardon himself from.

That being said, I think, honestly, he could.

I think he could do it.

I think he could.

I think, in theory, he could.

I think it'd be suicidal if he did, but I think he could.

Yeah, you know,

I don't know if that's true.

Well, it might not not.

It might not be now.

I don't think it is suicidal as far as your base goes.

I think by the time you went through that entire process, you're talking multiple years, you'd have your base so convinced it was completely unfair that I don't even think they'd care.

Yeah, maybe.

And I mean that from both parties.

I want to go back to SCOTUS.

I I mean, here's the media telling us where

shall not infringe.

Okay.

They will make no laws respecting the establishment of religion.

Or prohibiting the free exercise there.

Right.

Right.

It is

that clear.

They are crystal clear on whether the president could pardon himself when the Constitution is anything but clear.

Here, the Constitution is 100% clear, and they find ambiguity.

I mean, you just can't.

Words are not rubber.

They're just not.

Clarence Thomas is the only one doing this job.

I mean, I really, let's be honest about it, because even the other justices that went on along with this, Thomas wrote a separate concurrence, which Gorsuch joined, by the way.

So Thomas and Gorsuch give him a lot of credit here, but he went through and actually took on the case.

He's the only one that actually did the actual job that he was supposed to do there.

Listen to this.

Consider what Phillips the Baker baker, actually said to the individual respondents in this case.

After sitting down with them for a consultation, Phillips told the couple, quote, I'll make your birthday cakes, shower cakes, sell you cookies, and brownies.

I just don't make cakes for same-sex weddings.

It's hard to see how this statement stigmatizes gays and lesbians more than blocking them from marching in a city parade, dismissing them from the Boy Scouts, or subjecting them to signs that say, God hates the F-word, all of which this court has deemed protected by the First Amendment.

So if those things are protected by the First Amendment, you're telling me saying, ah, yeah, I don't want to make your cake is not.

Moreover, it's also hard to see how Phillips' statement is worse than the racist, demeaning, and even threatening speech towards blacks that this court has tolerated in previous decisions.

Concerns about dignity and stigma did not carry the day when this court affirmed the right of white supremacists to burn a 25-foot cross, conduct a rally on Martin Luther King Jr.'s Boulevard, or circulate a film featuring hooded Klan members who were brandishing weapons and threatening to to bury the N-words.

That's all protected, but you have to be forced to make a cake?

Wow.

I mean, again, Laura Thomas is the most important person in America, period.

He is the only one there.

I mean, he's not the only one, but he's the best one.

And he continues to do amazing jobs.

Okay, so now we have that bakery, but that is, I think that's going to open up all kinds of problems for other bakeries.

However, in the realm of Starbucks, which was interesting that Schultz left yesterday, wasn't it?

In the realm of Starbucks,

employees have been fired at yet another bakery because of discrimination.

In Northeast Portland, they were fired because a black woman came in and they told her that they were closed.

And they were closed.

They were open and they just closed the door now because she was black.

They were actually closed.

When was it nine?

They closed 9.06.

It was 9.06.

And so she came in because she was

helping some whiteys.

Yeah.

And they had ordered before closing time, however.

So they were finishing up their order.

Yeah, but I mean, if another white person would have walked in after 9 o'clock, they would have told me.

Yes, thank you.

That's okay, Whitey.

Come on over there.

Everything happened.

Two white women walked in before the black woman.

And they served them.

They served them unbelievable.

And they were also told they were closed.

They were closed.

They were closed.

So because they were insensitive to the black woman, though,

they were fired.

They were fired.

They were fired.

And it's interesting.

Wait, were they insensitive to the white woman?

The two white women.

No, apparently not.

No, apparently not.

All right, okay.

They were fired even though

the employees were not being racist, admittedly, by the owner.

They were not being racist.

And they were following the business's protocol of closing at 9 o'clock.

But they were fired anyway because sometimes impact outweighs intent.

And what are you going to do about that?

Impact outweighs intent.

Outweighs intent.

What was the impact?

The impact was that the black woman felt bad.

And their intent wasn't to hurt her feelings, but apparently they

hurt her.

It doesn't matter.

That the intent was.

No, it doesn't matter what the intent was.

Did they hurt the feelings of the white people?

The white people I have not seen come forward, and we don't really care about those votes, too.

Okay, so how do we know that the black person's feelings were hurt?

Because she is a black activist and she made her feelings known.

Ah.

In fact, she's known

in the area as a professional equity activist.

Now?

A professional equity activist.

So her job

to be an activist

for equity.

So you got to wonder, did she come in at 9.06 after the business closed on purpose so that she could.

Or was she just running late, like sometimes sometimes people do but then when they said that she thought you don't know who i am you're not going to mess with could be done

i need my loaf of bread and my cupcakes

and so she left and i'm going to teach those people a lesson and she did so the impact is not that she felt bad the impact is once again

someone chose the wrong target yeah it wasn't a target was not no but if it was a if it was a non-activist like these two people should have known, okay, well, uh, it's an activist.

No,

if it was a regular person, black, white, yellow, doesn't matter, a regular person who has a life would be like, oh, sorry.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

You might even be like, you know what?

Come on, I just, I just need a loaf of bread.

I'm sorry.

No, I can't.

I got to close.

Okay.

All right.

You might even be pissed a little bit, but it's your, you're pissed at yourself because you were running late.

Yeah.

I've gone into places where it closes at, let's say, 10 o'clock and it's like 9.40.

And they're like, yeah, it's too close to closing.

And

am I annoyed?

Do I

internally punish that business by saying, you know, I'm not going back there?

You know, yeah, it kind of annoys me and maybe I don't go back there next time.

But I mean, it's not because of, again,

you're the one assigning the racial intent here.

In fact, the business in this case seems to even acknowledge it was not racist.

Right.

Yeah, they did.

But yet again, they get fired.

So what are you doing?

What are you doing?

I teach you saying that as long as minorities want to come into your place of business, you can't close.

As long as minorities want to do anything that you want to any protected class, you cannot stop them.

Right.

That's where we are right now.

It's chaos.

That's where we are.

It is chaos.

Getting one last question.

Schultz leaving.

Any.

He's the CEO of Starbucks.

Yeah.

Any thoughts that this.

I think he's setting up a presidential run.

It does seem that way.

He's hinting towards it for sure.

And the way

he dealt with this most recent thing, which was patently absurd.

Right.

I mean, the fact that he closed all of his restaurants because two guys came into one of his stores and

said they wanted to sit there without buying anything.

They called the cops, and the cops are the ones that ruined, not Starbucks.

The cops are the ones that removed him.

Starbucks doesn't get to boss the cops around and say, please arrest these people.

That's not how it works.

And yet he closed all the restaurants and did this penance, which was bizarre.

It certainly signifies that he's trying to show you how much he cares

about these topics that are important to Democrat voters.

One more big name that thought they were going to run for president, Mark Zuckerberg.

How is his empire burning down to the ground?

You know, just a year ago, two years ago, people on the left would be like, I don't know, Mark Zuckerberg, he might run, blah, blah, blah.

That guy would never run.

You would never trust big data.

You would never trust that guy with with Facebook the way it is right now.

No, I don't.

I don't.

No, I don't think so.

You disagree, Stu?

The second they thought he could knock off Donald Trump, they'd embrace him wholeheartedly.

It's just a matter of whether they think they can get him there.

I'm not talking about the political people.

I think average person.

I don't think, I don't know.

The average person's still on Facebook, right?

Like, what have they done?

I mean, yeah, I think it's honestly more of a media creation.

They do this whole thing about fake news and they make this big deal about it.

Well, people are clicking yes to these pages.

They're not the ones that want them limited.

They want to get the information that they want to access.

You know, we talked about this with our, you know,

every media company is going through this right now.

But like, if you're a big fan of the Blaze, you might not be getting these posts, the posts that go up there.

Glennbeck.com, if you're following Glenn, you might not be getting the posts going up there because Facebook's trying to limit the amount of news generally that people are getting.

Right.

You have to actually seek it out and change your settings.

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Welcome to the program.

So excited.

The Mercury Museum is opening up next weekend, just for temporary exhibit.

It's going to be in the 80,000 square foot building of the Mercury Studios here.

We are transforming the entire...

This is the first time we've taken the entire thing.

And it's only a portion of what we have, including we found out yesterday, the actual handwritten Gettysburg address.

The original, handwritten, writing on the train Gettysburg address.

Not like handwritten by you or something.

You don't have something like that.

No, handwritten, the original from Abraham Lincoln.

Wow.

Guy who sit up in a great museum.

I think we're going to have him on tomorrow, up in a great museum in Illinois, the Lincoln Museum.

He said he still does, and people, when they see it, they weep.

Wow.

I mean, it's powerful.

Going to be here in Texas, the Rights and Responsibility Museum here at the Mercury Studios.

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