'Thought is Frightening' - 4/6/18

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So why does David Brock and Media Matters still have any kind of sway in the media?

Why?

If you don't know, Media Matters is a liberal hit squad that scours the internet, TV, newspapers, public speeches to find anything they can from conservative voices with the specific intent of taking them out of context.

Their entire goal is to silence dissenting voices and opinion.

But I am finding it hard in today's day and age to understand their relevance.

First of all, their leader, David Brock, only started his crusade to defend Hillary Clinton.

He was a shill for Hillary Clinton.

She's not relevant anymore.

Politically, she doesn't even exist.

So why is Media Matters still around?

Ah.

Because they have power.

This isn't 10 years ago, however.

People have the ability to do their own fact-checking.

There's more variety on the internet for news and information than ever before.

So why is the media so afraid of Media Matters?

The Atlantic was the latest to give in to Media Matters pressure with the firing of Kevin Williamson.

Sure, The Atlantic is a liberal publication, but at least they were sometimes intellectually honest.

For years, The Atlantic had been less mudslinging and more intellectual conversation, you know, even though it would be conversation that you would disagree with, but at least you could consider it.

After Trump became president, that all stopped.

Insanity has set in.

When the Atlantic hired conservative columnist Kevin Williamson a few weeks ago, this apparently was way too much for David Brock and his brown shirts or black shirts, Media Matters to bear.

They just couldn't stand it.

They couldn't stand aside and allow a popular conservative voice to be in an established liberal media publication.

That would be a disaster.

So the kings of thought crime went to work.

Three days ago, Media Matters began releasing hit pieces to damage

Williamson's image.

They dug and they dug and they dug and they searched and they found a comment from a podcast and a corresponding tweet that he made four years ago.

Williamson suggested that women who commit abortions should be subject to capital punishment.

Now, on the surface, that definitely sounds like a shock comment.

But later in the podcast, he makes it very clear that he doesn't like capital punishment.

His intention was pretty obvious.

Williamson was trying to make a point showing the moral similarity between abortion and murder.

That's it.

That right there is exactly the kind of deep critical thinking that you'd expect to find at the Atlantic.

And actually, they must have agreed because they hired Williamson away from the National Review, knowing full well that he made these comments back in 2014.

If they didn't, then it shouldn't have been relevant.

It wasn't a secret.

99% of the staff at the Atlantic probably disagree with Williamson in general, but that would have made for some good, solid point counterpoint.

It would open people's minds.

But Media Matters couldn't take it.

Why the Atlantic is so concerned with what some outdated and washed-up liberal hit squad cares about is beyond me.

I remember when I was at CNN and nobody really understood what Media Matters was.

There's no excuse for this now.

You all know what Media Matters is.

So my question is, when is this going to stop?

Will this stop when there's only one point of view and no debate on anything?

Is that what the right wants?

Is that what the left wants?

Because

play this out.

If you start to adopt

a philosophy that says, you know what, it's only my point of view.

After you get rid of all the people who are the loudest against you, well, then you're going to have to start in on your friends.

See, this is what happened in France with the guillotines.

If you believe someone is wrong, have a conversation with them.

But we don't do that anymore.

We're not allowed to talk to each other anymore.

Opposing views are silenced.

Those that voice them are pulverized and destroyed.

I think I've read a book about this.

It was called 1984.

Welcome to the state of the mainstream media today.

It's Friday, April 6th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

I want to start here.

Congratulations

to Roseanne Barr, who has gone on ABC and she has found a way to make herself relevant.

And she's brought back her show.

And her second week, the ratings were not quite as high, but they were still quite high, proving that she isn't a flash in the pan, at least the first week.

Now, I want to start with Roseanne Barr because I think it's very brave of ABC to put Roseanne Barr on television.

Because

remember, Kevin Williamson, he was making a point

that required actual thinking

and

context.

Media matters?

No.

Context matters.

So his point was: there's a lot of people that believe abortion is murder.

I'm one of them.

So if abortion is murder, then how come we don't punish the people who did the murdering?

And that would include the doctors and the mothers.

How come we don't do that?

And he was trying to make the point that if it's murder,

we're asking for the death penalty on murder, on horrendous crimes.

On a serial murderer, of course, we would ask for the death penalty.

So, why aren't we doing it there?

Then he goes on to say, now I'm not for it.

However, it's what you have to see.

It's murder.

Okay.

So he made an intellectual point, and he gets fired from the Atlantic.

I'm going to play a clip that I think most people have forgotten from 2008.

It wasn't on a podcast.

It was on Russia Today.

And it's Roseanne Barr

right after the big bank bailouts.

And she was serious.

There was no, oh, and I'm just making a point here.

She was serious.

I want you to hear it.

Of course, that the guilty must be punished and that we can no longer, you know, let our children see their guilty leaders getting away with murder because it teaches children that they don't have to have any morals and as long as they have guns and are bullies that they'll win and I don't think that's a good message.

I do say that I am for the return of the guillotine and that is for the worst of the worst of the guilty.

I first would allow the guilty bankers to pay, you know, the ability to pay back anything over 100 million personal wealth

because I believe in a maximum wage of $100 million.

And if they're unable to live on that amount, then they should, you know, go to the re-education camps.

And if that doesn't help, then be beheaded.

Okay.

So because they were involved in a crime

and they were stealing money from the people, in her words,

they should go to a re-education camp.

They should have their money taken from them.

And

some of them should be beheaded.

Hmm.

Now, wait a minute.

If you commit murder and you have actual blood on your hands

in an exercise of critical thinking,

Kevin Williamson asks: why wouldn't we then

apply the death penalty to those who perform and have abortions in an exercise of critical thinking.

And he gets fired from the Atlantic, but Roseanne gets a job at ABC.

She's allowed to go on.

There's no outrage there.

She's allowed to go on.

She's totally fine.

She's calling for the guillotine for bankers.

Which would be an entirely new law.

And she gets, she goes to ABC.

And I have to tell you,

that's quite an accomplishment.

To go to the American Broadcasting Company, that's quite, and get a prime time show, that's amazing.

Just so you know, Kevin Williamson, in comparison,

he's kicked out of the Atlantic.

That's like being told you're not dressed well enough for a restaurant called Eat.

Hello, Stu.

How are you?

Good.

I'm glad you covered this first because

it's so disappointing.

I mean, it's not a surprise to me at all, but the idea that Kevin Williams said, you know, look,

he's a great writer.

I mean, he is a great writer.

Right, right.

And I don't agree with everything he says.

No, but he does it in a way to make you think.

That is what all of his pieces do.

He says things in the harshest way to make you think about them at times.

And

that's the way he writes all the time.

To hire a guy like that and then fire him for that reason is insane.

That's like ABC

hiring Bill Maher and then firing him on a show called Politically Incorrect when he's politically incorrect.

Right.

So it shows that we back this point on both sides.

Yes.

We've backed a million leftists who have said crazy things that they should keep their jobs.

You know, look, that is part of how you come to a conclusion in an argument.

When you bring up the wild side, the wild argument on one side and the wild argument on the other, you set boundaries, right?

And you start narrowing that until you can find something that actually makes sense.

And you're never going to agree.

We're not going to agree with the left on these on these points, nor should we.

But I mean, to not be able to say, to to take some sort of license rhetorically and make a point like that.

And he does this all the time.

It's not like he's like, you know, he's been a writer who's known for his flowery,

you know,

basic vanilla commentary.

That's not why he's hired.

He's hired because he says things that make you think.

So here's the thing.

Right now, people who are defending the Atlantic

are saying things like, look, a freedom of speech.

That's so you don't have to go to jail.

And that's what we're against.

We're against fascists like Donald Trump who want to put you in jail.

No, actually, that was Woodrow Wilson, FDR,

and then the last guy to do it was Obama.

So did you have a problem with those three?

Because they put journalists in jail.

Oh, no.

So you're right.

That does.

Freedom of speech means

that the government can't put you in jail for what you say and what you do.

You have a right to free press to say it.

However, it must be true.

The first trial of freedom of speech happened in America before we were America.

And a guy was on trial

because he had said things about King George.

And so he goes to an American court.

It's like the Zinger trial or something.

He goes to court.

He is standing there in front of the judge.

Judge says, present the evidence.

Now, in England, you couldn't say anything about the king.

You can't say it.

No matter what, you cannot say it.

This was the first case on

freedom of speech before we were a country.

It's what gave that First Amendment,

it lit the fire in the minds of the founders.

This is what we have to write down on paper.

And here's what happened.

He made his case and he said, Your Honor, everything I said about the king is true.

So the judge ruled, not guilty.

If you're making things up about somebody, then there's a punishment.

But if it's true, there is no punishment for the truth.

Man must be free to tell the truth.

Now, is that what Media Matters does?

No, I can tell you right now, absolutely not.

They twist it, they turn it, they turn it into something that

they turn Kevin Williams into a guy who's saying, I want all mothers to go to the gallows.

That's not what he said.

That's not what he context matters.

The truth matters.

One other thing.

As people are defending the First Amendment and they're saying, well, this means that the government, but this is a private industry.

This is a private company.

They can do whatever they want.

Yes, they can.

I thought you believed in the free market.

I do.

Media matters is not the free market.

Those are brown shirts or black shirts.

All fascism starts the same way, with a mob in the street trying to tell everybody exactly what to do, how to live, how to salute, how to speak, and at first those mobs beat everybody into submission.

Then usually after that, the leader of those mobs has the mobs executed as they just take power after they have beaten everyone into submission.

Congratulations.

Atlantic, you think you're doing something because we're not going to be around fascists.

You are empowering the brown shirts.

Oh no, is that...

Oh no, that was probably too tough for people to hear.

Oh no, I...

I just got to call.

You got fired from the Atlantic.

I'm sorry, Glenn.

Gosh.

You're out.

Sorry.

Maybe I should be beheaded.

Well, I don't have time to ask Roseanne about that because she's busy working on her ABC television show.

Jeez.

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Glenn back.

When will the American media wake up?

Will they?

Is it too late?

When will they wake up?

And quite honestly, we all need to wake up.

We're part of the media now.

Social media.

We're all doing it.

And look at

everybody is saying, you know what's really unhealthy?

It's social media where, you know, you only get one side.

That's that damn Mark Zuckerberg in his algorithm.

It's just giving us all just what we want to hear and reinforcing our own opinions.

Oh.

So

let me just ask Jeffrey Goldberg: are you a Mark Zuckerberg algorithm?

Because that's what you are choosing to do with the Atlantic.

Oh, they can't handle another opinion.

Nobody is allowed to think outside of this little box.

Well, actually, half the box.

Half the box can only listen to their half of the box, and the other half of the box can only listen to their half of the box.

I'm not even in a box.

Get out of the box.

How do we possibly survive when the journalists,

when the people who claim to be the bastions of truth, when they're cowards?

This, you know, I don't know, I don't, we don't teach this anymore, but life takes courage.

No, it doesn't.

I want a safe zone.

There is no place safe, especially intellectually.

You should never be looking for a safe zone when it comes to intellectual thought.

Thought Thought is good.

All big thought is really scary to people.

It always is.

The world is round.

Electricity.

We should cross the sea and see what's over on the other side.

It's always

frightening.

When it comes to thought, stay out of any place that says this is a safe zone.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

There is a great movie that is opening up this weekend.

It's called Chappaquiddic.

And I want you to know going in, if you're looking for,

you're looking for, yeah, get him, you're not going to find it.

And I don't think you should, but you're not going to find it.

You're going to find something that I think was balanced,

did not feel political, didn't feel like it had an axe to grind, felt historically accurate, and was a really good movie.

And I watched it with my nieces and nephews and my daughter the other day, and they had never heard of Chapiquidic before.

And they kept looking over at me, going, is this real?

This is true?

Wait a minute, this happened?

Halfway through, he didn't go on to be senator, did he?

Just waiting until the ending.

It's really, really well done.

Great acting in it.

And one of the producers is with us.

It's Mark Chiardi, who has done some of my favorite movies.

The Rookie, Miracle, Invincible, The Game Plan.

I love Secretariat and Million Dollar Arm.

Welcome, Mark.

How are you, sir?

Well, thanks for having me, Glenn.

I have to tell you.

Thank you for making this movie.

It's amazing how many people don't even know what Chapiquiddik is or what happened.

And it has truly been erased from history.

And I think it's important to do it, but do it in the way you did

that wasn't heavy-handed or politically driven.

Yeah, I mean, what you said earlier is exactly what our intent was with the movie, and I appreciate it because, you know,

you can go out and really do, you know, a hit job on Ted Kennedy and this, but we wanted something a lot more nuanced.

I mean, listen, the facts when you string them together are not flattering.

There's no way around it.

Right.

You know, but we do frame it in a way where, you know, he's lost three brothers.

You know, he is now the last son.

You know, you've got the moon landing happening at the same time.

And then you throw this into the mix, and it's incredible to watch.

Well, obviously, from the accident on and his actions on

are enough of an indictment, but it's a lot more nuanced than that.

And I appreciate those comments.

I appreciated the fact that

you didn't make Ted Kennedy into a caricature

and you didn't make him into an evil guy, although in the end you walk out going, what an evil dude.

You did show the battle that he had inside the weakness of him.

And Bruce Dern, as

Joe P.

Kennedy, holy cow, was he good as that.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, he said five words, and those scenes with him and Ted, I mean, he doesn't have to say that you see everything in the eyes.

And, you know, Ted's reduced to kind of a child in this.

And, you know, when he has to go tell his dad, it's almost like he threw a baseball through a window.

But, you know, once that, you know, that machine gets to work,

it's a real peek inside power.

And, you know, that's what makes it, you know, in context with everything certainly going on in the last eight months

that it's abuse of power and how people respond to it.

So

if you think back and project on history,

Joe Kennedy died shortly after, within a year of Chapa quitting.

Four months later.

Four months later.

If he would have been dead, do you think Ted Kennedy would have confessed and he would have owned up to it right away?

Good question.

Really good question.

We don't know.

We know that the night of the accident, he called Hyannisport many times.

So he was looking for advice for sure from his father.

And

listen, the best and brightest descended on Hyannisport.

You know, most of, you know, JFK's cabinet came there, including Silimson, McNamara, all these great minds, to figure out what to do with Ted.

First of all, they got him off of any jail time.

They got a two-month suspended sentence, and they got that body off the island.

There was no autopsy done.

And

then, you know, things played out as they did.

And, you know, we end on this famous speech he did.

And

they crafted it as he became the victim, you know, asking if there was a Kennedy curse.

And I think people lose sight of the fact, or certainly they did, that the young woman died and he became the victim.

So Ed Helms is good in this.

He plays,

is he a cousin of the Kennedys?

Yeah, he's a cousin.

It almost kind of got adopted

by the family.

And yeah, he's great.

He is really great, and he's standing up the whole time saying,

you have to tell the truth.

Without giving anything away, I mean, you know, it's history, so we kind of know how it ends, but it's an interesting scene at the end.

Is that scene with,

did that happen at the end with

Joe and

Ted?

He held the cue cards, I mean, which is amazing.

And he definitely wanted him to basically resign.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a powerful scene, you know, right before he goes on camera.

And,

yeah, I mean, a lot of things that when you put them together, the facts, it's incredible.

When we read the script, my hands sweat, you know, and that's all you can ask for from a script.

And hopefully we can get that on the screen.

Oh, you did.

And, you know, and one of the bigger things is, you know, we spoke to the scuba diver that found her, and it was, you know, an hour conversation.

And, boy, you talk about going back in time.

He recounted it as if it was yesterday, John Ferrer, and we tracked him down.

And boy, it was unbelievable, you know, because his contention was that she was alive in that car for a period of time and that she didn't drown.

Like three hours, right?

Like three hours.

He said it could have been up to a couple hours.

So, you know, he could have lit that island up.

He walked past the dike house 75 yards away.

We make a point of showing that as

the car drives by, and he decided a lot of missteps along the way.

But it was self-preservation from the time of the action.

Yeah, bad, bad dude.

Mark,

we're talking to the producer of the new movie Chappaquidic, Mark Chiardi.

Mark,

as a conservative, if you would have told me two years ago they're going to make a movie about Chappaquitik, and it's not going to be some crappy right-wing movie.

It's going to be a really good movie with really good actors with a wide Hollywood release.

I would have told you you were insane.

I mean, can you tell us the story of how this movie got made?

Yeah, you know, I started an independent film company a few years ago, and one of the first meetings I had was with a friend of mine, Chris Fenton.

He's also one of the producers.

And after the lunch, we were telling him, you know, we're looking for material.

He called a couple weeks later.

He says, listen, I got this great script.

He goes, I have no idea how the town's going to respond to it.

He said, do you want to read it?

We read it.

We fell in love with it.

It was not supposed to be a political move of like, oh, yeah, we got to do this.

It just was an amazing script.

It landed on the blacklist, which are all the top scripts of the year.

And then it's like, next step is like, how's the town going to respond?

And people read it and loved it and supported it.

So, you know, Hollywood, you know, I think did a great thing.

And,

you know, it's based on material, not political ideology.

And we put the movie together.

No pushback at all until recently when, you know, I think, you know, our distributor, Byron Allen, has been on record of, you know, there's people that don't want you to see this film.

There's definitely pressure exerted.

He didn't go into it who, what, or when, but

he definitely felt it.

I only saw one review and it was from CNN and they said it was heavy-handed and it is the farthest thing from heavy-handed.

I mean,

that was a political review.

I thought it was great.

And Jim Gaffigan

is becoming a real actor.

I mean, I wrote to Jim yesterday or day before after I saw it and I said, Jim, it is so hard.

You know, I can't see Martin Sheen for anything other than Martin Sheen when he's out in the public all the time.

Here's a comedian I love and I watch and I just saw in concert here recently.

I didn't see that comedian on the screen at all.

That's almost impossible to do.

Yeah, he was great.

You know, him and Ed Helms, known for comedic, you know, really good.

They're both kind of comedians.

But we wanted John Curran from the outset.

He wanted these two guys.

He just, it's such a serious movie that there's moments of, I wouldn't call it levity, but kind of a lightness in the timing that they're just great at.

And there's some big laughs in the movie when, you know, ironically, like when the war room happens in these kind of series of missteps.

And,

you know, so it's, it, it is funny in certain spots.

But, you know, the other thing is like we've been reviewed incredibly well.

And I'm appreciative of, you know, Walls, you know,

all these kind of, you know, more liberal publications, Village Voice, Washington Post, New York Times.

So it's, it's, it's great that people aren't looking at it politically.

I mean, the CNN one wasn't, you know, was mixed, but for the most part, people have really kind of, what you pointed up and pointed out in the beginning of your show is exactly what the account was, and people are seeing it for that.

So that's great.

I watched it with my daughters and my nieces and nephews the other day.

None of them had known what Chapiquidic was.

And I don't like,

I really have a hard time with

heavy-handed message movies.

And I kind of went into this going, okay, is this going to be one of those?

And I'm going to have to say, well, that's not exactly true.

And, you know, blah, blah, blah.

I thought it was so well balanced.

And I really think you've done a service.

Not only have you done a great movie, you can just go and it's a great, you know, movie night.

And if you don't care about it, you know, anybody at all, it's just an amazing story.

And I think that's why everybody wanted to have this made of, you know, now is it is a great story once you get away from the politics.

And

I can't thank you enough for not slanting it one way or another, just telling the story and letting the chips fall where they may.

Well, thank you.

I I mean, that was the intent of it, and I'm so happy people are receiving it that way.

And, you know, we've said from the beginning, it's not about the left or the right, it's about the truth.

And, you know, sometimes that's the most compelling thing, not to editorialize, just present the facts and let people make up their own mind about his actions and, you know, what happened that week and the rest of his career.

One last question.

That was filmed in Chapaquidic, right?

I mean, is that the real bridge?

Well, yeah, the first two days we shot in Chappaquitik, what you see, the bridge has changed in that it has guardrails now.

We had to digitally remove those.

The scene that we wanted to show, and we showed the geography of that island, but when the fisherman in the sun finds that car in the morning, that's the actual spot it happened in.

And you see him, the little boy run from the bridge to the dike house.

We wanted to show that short distance

where he went.

And then we went to Mexico and recreated the exact replica to do all our tank work and crash.

And so it was a big effort.

But we shot on the north shore of Boston.

And yeah, there you go.

They welcomed us with open arms there.

It was great.

Mark, the name of the movie is Chappaquiddick, and it opens today.

Let me just let me leave you with this.

My grandfather

was a horse trainer.

And my grandfather also was the greatest storyteller ever.

We kind of know him now as the greatest liar in the family.

But he made up stories.

And we don't have any idea what part of our family history is true and not.

And he used to tell the story of Secretariat, and he used to tell about the training and everything.

And we didn't know if any of that was true because it came from my grandfather.

And we went and

my aunt, who's now in her 70s, she went when it first came out and we all called each other and went, oh my gosh.

It's true.

And that movie was so well done and really meant something to me

and our family.

So thank you very much for that too.

God bless.

you're welcome.

You're welcome.

You bet, appreciate it, Glenn.

You bet, bye-bye.

I can't wait to see this.

Chapter Quick, you'll love it.

Elton Theaters, I mean, the cast is awesome, too.

I mean, not only Jim Gaffigan, who's great, uh, Ed Helms, who's awesome as well.

Ed Helms, in case you don't know, he's the guy for the office for the office, he's great.

Kate Mara from uh, you remember her from House of Cards?

If you watch that, she's awesome.

She plays Mary Joe, yeah, really good.

Uh, I mean, the whole cast is Bruce Dern, of course, as well.

I mean, Jason Clark, it's a really good cast.

Really well done.

This isn't some like little, I mean, we kept hitting that point over and over again, but I am legitimately stunned this movie was made.

I am legitimately stunned that it is, it was made by all the Hollywood people and it doesn't defend him.

Yeah.

I mean, it's, it doesn't, it doesn't make him into, you know, a monster like you would, you know, you'd rewrite it to make him a monster.

You're just left with, good God, that guy was evil.

You know, you really are left with, okay, he had struggles, but man, he knew what he was doing and he chose to let her die and he chose to cover it up for power.

I'm struck too by the, I think it's the promotional hashtag they're using for the, it's just hashtag this really happened.

I mean, because I don't think people believe that something like this crazy could happen and this guy could go on for decades of almost hero worship.

It's incredible.

It's incredible.

Make sure you see it this weekend as Chapiquiddik.

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He left his Wall Street job and he bought his grandfather's business.

And then he did some research.

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I think this is really interesting.

The screenwriters of Chappaquiddick, Taylor Allen and Andrew Logan, they both grew up in Dallas where John F.

Kennedy was assassinated and they grew up and they had been to Dealey Paul's and everything.

And they were fascinated by the Kennedys.

In 2008, they're listening to Bill Maher on real time after Ted Kennedy endorses Barack Obama.

And they started thinking about why did Ted Kennedy never run for president?

They had never heard of Chappaquiddick.

They had never heard of it.

And then when they started looking into it, they're like, how was this never brought up?

What happened?

It's

why I think you'll see the time they took to show the machinery that Ted Kennedy had around him

that just stopped everything dead in its tracks.

It's quite amazing.

But to have two people, I don't know if they're left or right, find out in 2008, and they're intelligent people.

Yeah.

And fans of the Kennedys.

And they go, wait a minute, what?

That's amazing.

And look, we started this

hour out with Kevin Williamson getting fired from the Atlantic for a comment he made in an intellectual debate about abortion.

Here's a guy who killed somebody, basically, left them to die, drowning under the water.

And he went on for decades, decades in that same job.

Elected, I think the lowest, the closest anyone ever got to him was 58%, was his lowest percentage in re-election.

Amazing.

Because of the cowardice and the ignorance of people.

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Courage.

Truth.

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All right, so we should talk about the trade deal that China has come back because it's easy to win a $100 billion

trade

barrier that Trump has put up.

China is responding, and not pretty, but

I think this is more important.

China is doing something else.

They're clamping down even harder on religion.

Remember when China seemed to be trying to show the world that, you know, oh, look, we're a hybrid system.

See, you can have a bustling economy, you know, just like yours, and, you know, right alongside this friendly communist regime.

that, you know, just kills your children in mud puddles.

But, hey, we're swell.

Yeah, those days are over.

Now president xi is uh is uh moving on parliament again he's already gotten parliament to remove the term limits for the uh constitution so he can be god again ruler for life he's being called the most powerful chinese leader since mao in china and that's a compliment or i should say it's a required compliment So it's no big surprise this week when President Xi

goes to the Chinese government and shuts down the online sales sales of the Bible.

Now, why is that?

What could possibly be in that book that is so dangerous to tyrants?

I mean, what could it be?

We don't know because we don't read it here in America anymore.

China already strictly controlled the sales of Bibles by allowing them to be printed and distributed only through official state churches.

But in recent years, Bibles began popping up for sale through Chinese online outlets, including Amazon.

but not anymore.

By the way, the Koran is still available for purchase online.

No Bibles.

It's just another casualty of China's continual effort to restrict internet and religious freedom.

Sarah Cook, she's a senior East Asia analyst at Freedom House, said, quote, religious topics and groups are among the most censored in China.

We found the Chinese authorities increasingly using more high-tech methods to control religion and to punish believers, including surveillance and arrest for believers for sharing information online.

End quote.

A secretive department of the Chinese Communist Party called the United Front Work Department

is now in charge of the government's efforts internally.

They used to be just overseas influence efforts, but recently they have also taken the, quote, ethnic and religious affairs over, which means the Communist Party is moving further to tighten its stranglehold on religion.

Analysts say the specific crackdown on Christianity is driven by President Xi.

China's state administration for religious affairs has now developed a five-year plan.

Hey, Stu, didn't Mao have a five-year plan too?

Yeah, a couple great ideas on that front.

Yeah,

how many people thrived under that five-year plan?

Oh, I mean, by thrived, you mean died unnecessarily, about 60 million.

Okay, but that's it.

Okay, so they've got a new five-year plan.

It includes work on a new, more Chinese version of the words of Christ.

So, this ban on online Bible sales is just to clear the shelves for the new approved communist version of scripture coming soon to Chinese pews.

Five-year plans.

Mao is a fan.

President Z is a fan.

You know who else?

Stalin was also a fan.

It's Friday, April 6th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

The world is drawing lines, and we don't seem to even...

We don't seem willing to even talk about lines.

All right.

Peter Schweitzer.

He is the author of Clinton Cash.

He has come out with a new book called Secret Empires, How How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Families and Friends.

And welcome to the program, Peter Schweitzer.

How are you, Peter?

Hey, I'm great, Glenn.

Great to be back on with you.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

So, Peter,

you started with Clinton Cash, and you were looking at how they were making all this money and where it was all coming from.

And this is an interesting,

it's not even really a departure.

You went in and looked at both sides.

And what did you find?

Yeah, what we found is that political elites on both sides of the aisle are engaged in massive self-enrichment.

And it oftentimes includes foreign governments and foreign oligarchs because they want to pay for the access, pay for the influence.

And, you know, as you were talking there about China, and you've talked about it on a regular basis, China looms large here.

They basically have created this strategy, Glenn, of buying off elements of American political leadership by giving lucrative deals to their family members.

And unfortunately, it appears to be working.

So give us some examples of this.

Well, I'll give you one Democrat and one Republican, Joe Biden, Vice President Joe Biden.

Think of this for a second.

In December of 2013, Joe Biden, as Vice President of the United States, is flying on Air Force 2 to Beijing, China.

Whole host of controversial issues on the table, the South China Sea, trade issues, religious freedom, human rights, North Korea.

Well, with him on the plane is Hunter Biden, his son.

This is not the son that tragically died.

That was Bo Biden.

This is Hunter Biden.

So they fly over on Air Force 2.

Joe Biden is there for a couple of days and really gets widely criticized on that trip for going soft on Beijing.

Well, they leave, and Glenn, 10 days later, Hunter Biden's firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners, strikes a $1 billion, that's with a B, billion dollar deal with the Chinese government.

This is not an American company in China.

This is not a Chinese quasi-state company.

This is the Chinese government.

And that's just the first of a series of deals that the Biden family does with the Chinese government as Vice President Joe Biden is negotiating with the Chinese government.

So

how come we're not seeing this anywhere?

Why is...

Why is no one ringing the bell anywhere?

Well, it's a great question, Glenn.

I mean, look,

in a sense, I'm very, very frustrated, but I'm also very thankful.

I'm frustrated that the media did not cover this at all when it happened.

They're starting to cover it now.

On the other hand, I'm sort of the beneficiary of it because I'm an author and it gives me great material that the media is not covering.

But this is the huge problem in what I've said is that, look,

the media, you know, the punditry

on Trump by some of the mainstream media, I think, has just been like over the top.

But the reporting, the detailed reporting of, you know, Jared's meetings with foreign bankers, that's exactly what the media should be doing.

My criticism of the media is they just don't do that much to other people.

They didn't do it to the Bidens.

They certainly haven't done it to Mitch McConnell.

And it's the selective nature of this stuff that is so frustrating that the media doesn't want to cover.

So give me, I mean, the characters on the front of your book, the prominent ones, Obama, Biden, and Mitch McConnell.

Tell me, Mitch McConnell, or

give me something on the Republican side.

Well, Mitch McConnell, again, it sits China.

You know, Mitch McConnell is married to Elaine Chow, who is the transportation secretary in the Trump administration.

Very similar situation as it was with the Bidens.

You go back a little bit earlier to 1993.

Mitch McConnell, the senator from Kentucky, goes to Beijing with his father-in-law, Elaine Chow's father, James Chow.

It's not an official congressional delegation.

They are there as guests of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation, or CSSC.

And as the name implies, Glenn, this, of course, is owned by the Chinese government.

And in fact, it's really one of the largest defense contractors in Beijing.

They're the ones building the ships that are trying to challenge U.S.

naval supremacy.

So they go there in 1993, and what Beijing basically says, and of course they see the lay of the land, they see that Mitch McConnell is this rising senator, they say, look, we will set you up in the shipping business.

We will give the Chow family, their company foremost group, this great deal.

We will build your ships for you.

We will finance the construction of those ships.

We'll provide crews for those ships.

And we will provide contracts for those ships.

And long story short, over the next 25 years, the family has become very, very wealthy, courtesy of the Chinese government.

And James Chow, a couple of years ago, just gave a gift to Mitch McConnell of between $5 million and $25 million.

So he's a direct beneficiary of this.

Here's the problem, Glenn, and you probably know where this is going.

Look at Mitch McConnell's record on China.

After the Tiananmen Square massacre, up until 1993, he was one of the most vocal opponents of Beijing when it came to human rights, when it came to these national security issues, that has all gone away.

He will say an occasional thing about, you know, China, well, gosh, we wish they were better about human rights, but it is incredibly muted.

And he has worked aggressively, I count this in secret empires, he's worked aggressively to undermine any attempts to deal with issues related to human rights, trade issues, currency manipulation, etc.

So it's very, very clear, I think, in both the case of Biden and McConnell, Chow, that they have A, made these political families very wealthy, and B, those political families have, in effect, returned the favor by going soft on Beijing.

It's a strategy that is terrible and it's working.

The name of the book is Secret Empires.

I want Peter to stick around and tell you about Smash and Grab.

What politicians are doing, it sounds an awful lot like what Andrew Jackson did when he went into office as the poorest president and left office as the richest president.

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We reported on Tuesday that the Nazarene Fund is trying to help a group of persecuted Iranian Christian refugees.

These people are known in the media as the Lautenberg Christians.

They were waiting for their final permission to emigrate to the United States.

And at the last minute, they were denied visas by the U.S.

government.

We don't know why, but these people are going to be shipped back to

Iran, and they are open Christians.

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their return to Iran.

We're trying to help them.

We'll have all the details coming up in about 45 minutes from now.

Back with Peter Schweitzer, who has written a book, Secret Empires, and it's all about how the political class here in America is hiding their corruption and enriching their friends and family.

This strikes me, Peter, very much as what Andrew Jackson did when

he would go in and say, I'm going to take this Indian territory and break all these treaties.

And, hey, go down there, just be standing by the land office.

You know, nine o'clock, something's going to happen.

Be ready and buy some land for me.

And he enriched all of his friends and him.

Yeah, no, that's exactly right.

This is a repeat of that, what we called smash and grab.

And it involves Barack Obama.

I mean, I'm somebody who has not been a Obama fan as far as his policies and his worldview, but I never really thought that there was going to be much financial corruption in his inner circle, and I was just dead wrong.

And smash and grab is very similar.

As the name implies, Barack Obama would go in and smash a company or smash an industry, and then a very close friend or a close financial ally, it could be George Soros, it could be Tom Steyer, or it could be his best friend, a guy a lot of people have never heard of named Marty Nesbitt, would come in and buy the company for pennies on the dollar.

And the most vivid example I would say is probably the University of Phoenix, which is a for-profit school that the Obama administration decided was not serving students well, by their definition.

And they said, we're not going to allow GI Bill money, that is money from the Pentagon that allows active duty soldiers and others who've been enlisted to use that money to attend the University of Phoenix.

Well, you can imagine, Glenn, what happened to the stock price of that company.

It went from $100 a share down to about $3 a share.

At which point, Glenn, his best friend Marty Nesbitt, who runs something called the Vistaria Fund in Chicago, stepped in and bought the company for pennies on the dollar.

At which point, you probably know where this is going next, the Obama administration reversed course and said, you know what, we are now going to allow GI Bill dollars to flow to this company, thereby elevating the valuation again.

So it's a very insidious form of crony capitalism and corruption because you're not only taking something that doesn't belong to you, you're actually destroying other people's businesses.

Whether it's the University of Phoenix, they did it to coal companies, they did it to payday lenders, and his friends stepped in and made a lot of money.

What about this?

Smash and grab.

Did you get into it at all?

I remember right at the beginning of the Obama administration when they took over GM and then they started picking and choosing car dealerships and people who had car dealerships forever lost those.

Did you get into that at all?

I didn't, but that's

a great point to bring up.

I mean, this is the problem.

You know, we've talked about crony capitalism before is you give politicians the power to pick winners and losers.

And the losers, you know, shock of all shocks, tend to be opponents or non-allies of the politicians.

And the winners always seem to be their close friends and allies.

And, you know,

it's very, very

difficult to detect.

But, you know, it's like this circle.

So what you have is Marty Nesbitt making all of this money through the actions of his best friend, Barack Obama.

What is Marty Nesbitt now?

He's the chairman of the Obama Foundation.

So he is now pouring money into Barack Obama's next enterprise.

So it's the ultimate sort of

back scratching.

And

this is the sort of

insidious stuff that you are going to get with any president when you have them intervening in markets these ways and picking winners and losers.

So this is why I think conspiracies start, because you have exposed both sides in your book.

And there will be people that would, you know, friends of mine that are on the right or on the left that will overlook things that, you know, will happen with the Bushes or happen with the Trumps, but they will zero in on Barack Obama.

The same thing with the people on the left.

They will not listen to anything about Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, and they think it's conspiracy theory because no one is covering both sides.

Right.

No,

this is a huge point.

And the only way we are ever going to get at the root of corruption and cronyism is when we are prepared to call out our own side.

The corrupt political class works in a bipartisan manner on one thing, and that is feathering their own nests.

You know, there is cooperation on that.

There may not be on the budget.

There may not be on a whole host of other issues.

On that issue, they cooperate.

And they are counting on the fact that we have this binary view.

Well, you know, I can't call out the guy on my side because if I do, the other side might gain a seat and we're going to lose.

So I've just got to stick with a corrupt guy on my side.

And both sides do it.

So my challenge to people is if they're going to talk about corruption, you need to be prepared to call out somebody on your side first.

You've done this, Glenn.

There are other people doing it, but precious few want to do it.

They end up using corruption and cronyism just as a bat to hit the other side with rather than really trying to change this stuff.

Is anybody doing anything in Congress to stop it?

I mean, really?

You know, I don't think there's a ⁇ there are some reformers that tend to be more junior.

The problem you get is the longer that people stay in Washington, D.C.,

the less bad it appears to them.

I had a guy who served in Congress for eight years who told me, he said, look, let's be very clear, when you first get to Washington, D.C.,

most people see it's a cesspool.

But you stay a few years, and then it starts to feel like a hot tub.

You know, it's just, it's comfortable.

You get used to the smell.

You get used to the odor, and then you think, oh, this isn't really that bad.

So it's, you know, on issues like term limits, which I used to not think were a good idea, I have changed course because we've got to root out this culture.

You've got people on both sides of the aisle shouting at each other, saying

this side, if they take over, are going to wreck the country.

And then what do they do?

They both retire and they open a lobbying shop together.

So there's so much theater related to the partisan difference.

But when it comes to the sort of industrial logic business model of Washington, D.C., they're all on the same team.

Peter Schweitzer, the name of the book is Secret Empires, Available Now, How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends.

Peter, thanks for your hard work.

Thanks for exposing it yet again.

I appreciate it.

God bless.

Thanks, Glenn.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So, if you weren't following the news yesterday, you might have heard that Kevin Williamson was fired from the Atlantic.

Who is Kevin Williamson?

Well, he's a really, really smart libertarian.

Um, and he's a guy who is is is very very dry in his sense of humor and

says things in

pointed ways to get you to think that's his job get you to think

he was just hired away from the national review and he's he is truly one of our greater minds and uh he was hired by the atlantic Now, a lot of his friends said, you're not going to find a happy place over there, Kevin.

Let's see how long this lasts.

No, no, no, no, no.

They're interested in the other side as long as

it's intelligent dialogue.

Okay.

Well, Media Matters gets involved, and

they start doing their digging on him.

And you can always find something on somebody.

And they found a podcast that he did where he posed the question, if you believe that abortion is murder,

shouldn't we we hang the people or give them the death penalty if they've had one or performed one?

Because wouldn't we do that for a child if a child was murdered?

Why wouldn't we give them the maximum sentence?

Now, in that same podcast, he said, now, I don't believe in the death penalty, but I'm just asking the question.

That was too much for Media Matters.

So they started a campaign and they didn't didn't let the free market decide.

They, media matters, is brown shirts or black shirts,

whatever side of fascism you would like.

They took to the streets, the phone and email, and they started letting Atlantic, the Atlantic know, you've got a Nazi in your midst.

And we should be clear.

The comments made by Kevin Williamson do not cross any line of media matters.

There is no line of media matters.

The only line of media matters is opportunity.

And they saw saw an opportunity with Kevin Williamson to flex their muscle and try to get new donations and gain more power and scare conservatives and scare mainstream media from hiring conservatives.

They are not offended in the least by anything that Kevin Williamson has ever written.

They don't care at all.

They only care about their own power and their own money.

Period.

They are a...

They are nothing but

an organization dedicated to destruction.

And they see Kevin Williamson's comment.

You know, look, obviously they're a liberal organization.

They oppose the pro-life movement.

But there's no difference for them between what Kevin Williamson said about entertaining the potential death penalty for people who get the abortions and someone who says,

you shouldn't be able to abort someone nine seconds before birth.

There's no room between those two comments for Media Matters.

They don't care at all.

They just know they can't get people fired for saying you shouldn't be able to abort abort people nine seconds before birth.

And that's all they care about is destruction.

They're a joke.

I mean, and they're, you know, look, they'll say anything.

They'll do anything.

They've had to retract stories about me in the past.

This is the organization that doesn't care.

They are just looking to try to

perform a character assassination over anyone who's on the right.

So the idea that this comment is like really out of line for them, they don't care about the comment.

That's not the business they're in.

They're in a business of opportunistic destruction.

So here's the thing.

You either have balls or you don't.

I've had people work for me.

Amy Holmes, who's in our studio here in a few minutes.

Amy Holmes has worked for me.

She believes in abortion.

She was open about her belief on abortion.

She was consistent on her belief on abortion.

And I am pro-life.

Okay, we can't work with each other?

Of course we can.

We can't be on the same platform?

Of course we can.

Challenge.

You mean the intellectual exercise that we need every day?

Challenge me.

But don't do it in a bomb-throwing way.

Be consistent and be educated on whatever it is you're talking about.

Don't be an idiot.

That's important.

Now, Kevin Williamson is anything but an idiot.

And he was very clear that this was a mental exercise.

Now, let me ask ask you this.

Kevin Williamson

poses a question.

If you believe it's murder, shouldn't we then prosecute those who murdered that child?

Good question.

Some mental gymnastics.

Am I consistent?

What do I really believe?

Why not?

Or why?

Those are all things that the average person should be thinking.

But he's saying, if you actually believe this is murder

and these people who are the doctors have blood on their hands,

should they be prosecuted?

And if not, why?

And he gets fired from the Atlantic.

But I want to play some audio from somebody who said almost the same thing, except this is not

in any way, shape, or form, something that you should be executed for.

Listen to Roseanne Barr.

Of course, that the guilty must be punished, and that we can no longer

let our children see their guilty leaders getting away with murder because it teaches children that they don't have to have any morals, and as long as they have guns and are bullies, that they'll win.

And I don't think that's a good message.

I do say that I am for the return of the guillotine, and that is for the worst of the worst of the guilty.

I first would allow the guilty bankers to pay, you know, the ability to pay back anything over 100 million personal wealth

because I believe in a maximum wage of $100 million.

And if they're unable to live on that amount, then they should go to the re-education camps.

And if that doesn't help, then be beheaded.

Now, nowhere on Russian TV did she go or anytime else, did she go on to say, oh, I was just a parody bet.

Oh, I was just trying to make people think.

And she's rewarded with an ABC show.

Now, how does this work?

I'm just trying to find the consistency here.

They're both talking about execution.

They're both talking about execution for something that is controversial yet legal.

One,

people actually die and people have actually

caused the death of another individual.

The other is corruption.

Both bad.

One worse.

Murder.

And really what Kevin's doing there

is totally different than what Rosanna's doing.

Roseanne is advocating

an execution for people who made money in some way she finds to be corrupt.

Yeah,

well, that and re-education camps.

And re-education camps, but you know, execution.

And that is her advocating for a specific thing.

What it seems like Kevin Williamson was doing from the parts that I've heard from his commentary is exploring the idea is when we say abortion is murder, is it what we mean or is it a rhetorical device?

Right?

For example,

the NRA is a terrorist organization, is something the left says often, right?

If they actually believed the NRA is a terrorist organization, the answer to that question is not to restrict future purchases from 18 to 20-year-olds of one type of weapon.

Right?

Like you wouldn't say, hey, ISIS, they're a terrorist organization.

We should restrict their purchases of AR-15s for ISIS members between 18 and 20.

Right?

Like you would say we need to attack, we need to do something much more dramatic than that, right?

Because in reality, what that is, is a rhetorical device.

They're saying it's a terrorist organization.

And there are dopes on Twitter who believe it.

But in reality, the left doesn't actually believe the NRA is a terrorist organization.

They may, they really want power of guns, right?

And they think this is a way to make that happen.

And so he's exploring, Kevin, I think, is saying, like, do we actually believe this?

And that's a tough conversation.

It's a conversation not,

and I believe, as Kevin has said since, it's not really a great conversation to have on Twitter, right?

It's not the best venue for that type of conversation.

And it's interesting to kind of look at that and say, and take a step back and say, what do we accept?

Because when you're looking to really challenge someone, we can all sit here and say the same basic arguments over and over and over again.

How long have we been talking about this?

We've been talking about this, Glenn, going back probably since the formation of this program to a lot of talk radio has the same conversations over and over and over again.

You need to do what thing?

You need to do different things.

We've talked about this intellectual dark web over the past few months, which has stepped into areas, I think, that are really uncomfortable for

polite discourse.

Now, it's not to say that you're throwing bombs or insulting people,

intelligent

into uncomfortable areas.

That is something we should all be cheering on as a society.

Because you know what?

We might go into an uncomfortable area and say, you know what?

I'm glad that's uncomfortable.

We should keep that uncomfortable because

that doesn't work for me.

That's not a good place for us to go.

But to act as if you can't have those conversations

is ridiculous.

If you can't have those conversations, how do you advance?

How do you challenge a long-held belief?

You know, for a while, a long-held belief was black people should be slaves.

Okay.

And it was really uncomfortable for people like Benjamin Franklin to have the conversation.

You know what?

I don't think black people should be slaves.

It was a thing that had happened for how many years?

You know, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, all of history, basically, people had slaves.

It was not a questioned part of society, largely.

But people people like Franklin and many others took that uncomfortable step to say, hey, maybe we're the worst people on earth for doing this.

So there's an interesting piece of history.

Sam Houston,

the governor of Texas, he was a senator of Texas first.

He was actually kicked out

of the Senate.

He and Davy Crockett and a lot of them because he disagreed with slavery.

Sam Houston, you know, evil racist Texas, Sam Houston.

Sam Houston was on the floor of the Senate, and they were arguing that

preachers have no place in politics.

The Democrats, the Southern Democrats.

They have no place in politics.

Their voice is in the church.

There is a separation of church and state.

And that's when Charles Sumner got up about 1857.

And he got up and he said, let me address this.

And Sam Houston got up and said, Charles, sit down.

I got this one.

And he gave one of the most rip-roaring speeches about freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion, and freedom of thought.

Here's two southern

senators standing up.

And saying, no, I think you misunderstand.

Just because you're a preacher doesn't mean you lose your right to free thought, free expression, freedom of your own voice.

Nobody ever loses that.

Now, the left will say today that, well,

nobody's going to jail.

No, what were they doing?

They were trying to silence people.

Whenever you are with someone and they say, you know what, we need to silence that person, you're in the wrong crowd.

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Glenn Beck.

You know, we're just talking about Roseanne and what she said about giving bankers the guillotine that got rich on Wall Street.

She was serious about that.

She was rewarded with an ABC show, but she's also a massive conspiracy theorist.

Yeah, she holds on to the ABC show, despite very recently, because the clip we played, I think was from 2011.

This is very recently talked about her support for Donald Trump.

And you might say, well, that's great.

I mean, you know, he had passed that tax plan.

That's not why she's supporting Donald Trump.

She's supporting Donald Trump because of her belief in a bunch of series of very strange conspiracy theories that she believes Donald Trump is involved in,

which

Donald Trump does not say he's involved in at all.

If I'm not mistaken, she's back to the pizza.

It's basically Pizzagate.

They barely even remixed the conspiracy theories.

It's just not Pizzagate.

It's another place.

Yeah,

it's called The Storm.

The conspiracy theory is called The Storm.

It was born on 4chan.

We should go through some of the details of it.

Because it's crazy.

It's a gay.

She is not a stable individual.

No.

And

she's fine.

ABC.

I mean, imagine giving Alex Jones an ABC show?

Great point.

They don't even want him to be interviewed by Megan Kelly.

Right.

No interviews done.

They'll put her on ABC.

Glenn back.

Mercury.

Truth.

Glenn back.

On Tuesday, this program reported that the Nazarene Fund is trying to help a group of persecuted Iranian Christian refugees.

These people, known in the media as the Lautenberg Christians, were waiting for their final permission to emigrate to the United States, but then they were denied visas at the last minute by the U.S.

government.

We don't know why.

The group fled from Iran and traveled to Austria as part of an official U.S.

program that specifically helped persecuted Iranian Christians.

There were also Jews and Zoanostrians and other religious minorities that they were looking to escape the repressive Iranian regime.

These people sold all of their possessions.

They traveled to Austria.

Remember, on a U.S.

government program, not illegally.

They went through the security screening processes.

They were approved to come to the U.S.

They were expecting to do it this month.

And then for some reason, the U.S.

government, the same group that promised them safety and told them, leave and we'll get you to America.

The same country that promised them this.

Now is telling them, no, uh-uh, you can't come.

So now they have no place to go.

The Austrian government is threatening to deport them back to Iran.

If that happens, these people left because of their faith.

These people are certain for persecution, imprisonment, work camps, and possibly death.

This is especially true, not just because of their religion, but now they have also

been in extended contact with the U.S.

government.

Of course, they're all spies now.

It is reported that they are destitute, not able to take care of their basic needs in Austria.

There are several elderly and disabled people in the group.

This is an unmitigated disaster by our making.

We have an update now from the reporter who actually broke this story.

She is Mindy Belts.

She is the senior editor of World Magazine, author of the book, They Say We're Infidels.

Welcome, Mindy.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you for having me.

So, first of all, let's start with the Lautenberg Christians.

What does that mean?

Why are they called that?

The Lautenberg Amendment was passed by Congress during the Cold War era to grant asylum to special categories of people who are just historically in an ongoing way persecuted.

At that time, it applied to Jews, for instance, coming out of the former Soviet Union.

In 2003, Congress amended that to include non-religious,

I'm sorry, to include non-Muslim religious minorities coming out of Iran.

We know that Tehran is, the Islamic Republic is a government that is founded on

religious oppression principles.

And so

Congress extended this protection

to

those who qualified under the Lautenberg amendment.

Interestingly enough, Vice President Mike Pence voted for that amendment in 2003.

And we've been granting select groups of non-Muslims coming from Iran asylum in the United States ever since.

Okay, so who are these?

Who are these people?

Well, interestingly enough, I've talked to several of them and

their families, a number of them have families already in the United States who are U.S.

citizens.

They are wage earners who gave up jobs in Tehran and other cities in Iran once they realized they qualified under the program and had been given

some indication they could leave and be given asylum in the United States.

Hang on just a second.

Hang on just a second.

I want to clear that up.

It wasn't they were given some indication.

I've seen the paperwork.

They were accepted into this program by the United States.

Right.

I'm looking at one of them now given to me by one of the applicants.

It actually, they they were sent.

It says across the top, notice of eligibility for resettlement.

It's stamped with the Department of Homeland Security insignia and the U.S.

Citizenship and Immigration Services

granted them

eligibility to apply for resettlement.

And it was on that basis that Austria extended them

visas to come to Austria.

Austria, under a cooperative agreement with our State Department and our embassy in Vienna,

acts in effect as a staging ground so that they can come to Vienna, they begin their resettlement process, they complete their security clearance process.

That, too, begins before they come, but they complete it in Vienna, and then they are processed as other refugees are for admission to the United States.

How often, Mindy, is it that somebody is granted this and then it's revoked?

Until this particular group of about 100 that we're talking about, almost never.

I was told 98% of the time, once they reach Austria, they have already gone through the legal and security hurdles and are deemed qualified by the U.S.

government to come to Austria thereby to come to the United States.

Is there some

Is there any reasonable explanation on why this is happening?

There are explanations.

You and I could debate whether they're reasonable or not, but there has been just

really a chasm of

kind of a black hole on this whole thing.

We've been asking questions now for a couple of months.

A number of other people have been asking too.

Members of Congress wrote letters in February on this and have not received answers back.

We've had some statements from the State Department.

The State Department told us these are this has to do with the previous administration's security clearance hurdles.

We've been told that they failed security clearances, but it's hard to imagine that.

You know, you mentioned

it's hard to imagine all 100, exactly.

And you mentioned that some of them are disabled.

We know, I mean, I know that there is at least one elderly couple in this group,

and one of those family members is in a wheelchair.

wheelchair.

So it's just, it's not credible that they pose a security threat.

And the limbo that they've been left in is also what's questionable.

If they did pose a security threat, you would expect the Austrian government to be deporting them back to Iran by now.

That's not happening, even though they've been threatened with that.

And they've actually, some of them have had their apartments raided by Austrian police and have been asked to turn over passports and documents.

So

they are being asked to live in really a kind of intolerable limbo

and we are not getting answers to what the U.S.

government's position on this is.

Mike Pence is a reasonable man and a good man.

What does he say about this?

Have you had the chance to talk to Mike?

No, and to my knowledge, because

the members of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission in the House of Representatives, they sent a letter dated January 29th to the Vice President.

And,

you know, in it, they reminded him, I mean, the vice president has been an outspoken advocate for persecuted Christians.

He said their plights have stirred Americans to act.

And

yet there's been no response from his office

to the Tom Lantos.

Commission, and I'm not aware of him taking an active role despite being asked to.

So, what can the average person do, and what can we do do at Mercury One?

Well, you know, it seems to me that this is the sort of thing that

ought to be Congress, at least, deserves to have an answer on what's going on.

They need to have an intelligence briefing.

If we're talking about national security issues here, then it seems to me a closed-door briefing on what's going on with these cases.

There need to be answers given to Congress, given to the American public on whether our immigration laws, I mean, this is a provision of our immigration and refugee laws that

does not

come

under the current Trump administration travel bans.

They need to be told why our government is not processing refugees and immigrants in a lawful way if they are applying under the law.

And

everything that I've learned about these cases indicates to me that up until,

you know, just a few months ago, everything was proceeding according to law.

So now it seems to me that the State Department, Department of Homeland Security, and the Vice President, because he's been asked about these specific cases,

need to be open and say, here are the concerns that we have.

And then they need to resolve these cases for the benefit of these families from a strict humanitarian standpoint.

These families need to know if they are going to be able able to live somewhere in safety, if they're going to be forced to go back to Iran, which, as you pointed out, would be disastrous.

Tell me, tell me.

Or what?

Tell me, Mindy,

what happens to them if they do go back?

I mean,

excuse me.

They have, excuse me.

They have been

They've taken a stand on

religion, which is not going to go over well in in the first place, but then they went to the Americans and they have had contact with the Americans, which never goes well.

What happens to these people, do you suppose, if they go back?

I think it's clear that

it won't be good.

I mean, we can look at, I mean, three Iranian pastors were sentenced to given lengthy jail sentences

this past December.

There are dozens of Iranian Christians Christians who are in jail now.

Plus, you have this destabilized situation where continuing to have demonstrations in Tehran and other cities, and people are arrested almost every night there.

So as you point out, these people not only fall against, you know, have a strike against them because they are non-Muslim religious minorities.

The second strike they have against them is that by taking the steps they have, they clearly oppose their government.

They don't believe they're safe under their own government.

And they would be going back at a time when this government is taking people off the streets and putting them in jail.

Why would they not just immediately jail these people?

Why would they not be denied?

They've sold their property.

They've given up their jobs.

What do they have to go back to?

Mindy Belt's the author of They Say We Are Infidels.

She also has, she's the senior editor of World Magazine, and she's the one who's broken this story.

And please stay in touch with us, Mindy, and we'll continue to follow the story.

Appreciate it.

We'll do it.

Thank you.

By the way, if you want to get involved, please support the Nazarene Fund.

Go to thenazarenefund.org.

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Let me go to Christina in California.

Hello, Christina.

Hello.

I just wanted to get the word out, give encouragement to people to give to Mercury One and the Nazarene Fund.

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Wow, Christina, thank you.

Thank you so much.

Where in California do you live?

I live in Fresno, the Central Valley.

I'm a conservative.

I watch the PGA.

I'm a unicorn.

You're talking to a real life.

Well, good luck with the mudslides and the rains and the fires and the earthquakes that are coming your way.

I read about them this morning.

And so you've got nothing to worry about.

You're in California, so you're in safe hands.

God bless you.

I'm landlocked.

So what we're doing, we're being starved of agricultural water by our state legislature.

You know, bat crazy Governor Brown.

So that's what I'm dealing with.

It's crazy.

It is really, truly crazy.

Christina, thank you so much, and God bless.

And thank you.

Thank you for giving to the Mercury Mercury One and the Nazarene fund.

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Welcome to the program.

A Kansas woman, suspicious that someone had broken into her home,

called police.

The

Salina Journal reports a 23-year-old woman called police at her home Thursday after finding her front door was chained from the inside.

Police say they went to the house, they searched the house and could find no intruder.

They were baffled.

How did someone lock the chain of the door?

without anybody being inside.

Well, two hours later, the woman and her current boyfriend heard a loud noise.

They rushed out into the living room and looked up, and they saw two legs hanging out of the living room ceiling.

Apparently, the woman's twenty-five-year-old former boyfriend had fallen through partially through the living room ceiling.

He was hiding in the attic.

Police say

the current boyfriend then pulled the old boyfriend, pulled on his legs, and pulled him the rest of the way through the ceiling, and they began fighting.

Bergkamp, the guy in the ceiling, faces several charges, including aggravated burglary and criminal threat.

We used to encourage persistence in this country, and now look where we are.

Right?

I mean, Guy obviously just really cares.

Really dedicated to that ex.

24-year-old Virginia woman, allegedly driving drunk in New Jersey over the weekend, smashed into two parked cars.

She said to her friend, I'm too drunk to drive.

Her friend said, Okay, well, I can drive.

So they switched places.

Her friend went behind the will, and

they smashed into two more cars before police came.

They allegedly told the cops they were trying to figure out who was less drunk to drive the car.

Neither of them really were less drunk.

They were way over the legal limit.

And

they had banged up the SUV that they were driving in that they couldn't drive it anymore.

And cops had a hard time getting them out.

Surprisingly, you don't get points for being less drunk.

No.

If you're drunk.

Stu, which one of us is less drunk?

If there's a warning label, do not operate heavy machinery

when you are drunk.

Which one of us would that label be talking to?

Apparently, in this case, both.

Yes.

On the weekend, that chap Aquiddick comes out in theaters.

It's probably

a reminder that driving while impaired

may not be the best idea.

Might have been a good thing to have him ask that question.

Which one of us are the less drunk?

Well, I'm not drunk, but you are.

Might have been a good question for him to ask.

I would say, given the circumstances that we now have.

Are you going to go see Chappaquidic?

Yeah, definitely.

I'm really excited to see it.

Have you seen Ready Player One?

No.

You don't want to?

I mean, I would see it.

I saw a runtime of, what, 2.38?

And I was like,

you're stretching.

I really want to see it.

But I read the book, and it's one of the best books I've ever read.

I mean, I started reading it, and I said, everybody, everybody, come in the room.

And my whole family came in, and they don't.

I mean, you know, some people will say to me, Oh, I wish, oh man, I wish I could hear you read that book.

No, if you're in my family, nobody wants to hear that.

Okay, nobody wants to hear the old timey stories.

They don't want to hear the, you know, history.

They don't want to hear it.

You could have paid lots of money over your career to read, to read material like that in an entertaining fashion, but your family doesn't hear it.

My family is like, shut up.

Okay, just shut up.

So, anyway, so and they know you best.

And they know me best.

So,

so, anyway, so I said, everybody, come here.

And I read a chapter.

We ended up reading the entire book over like a four-day period.

I mean, we were just, we were all on vacation and I just read it out loud.

And it is a great book.

And we read it when it came out and we were like, this is going to be the greatest movie ever.

But we discussed, you'd never be able to make it because it would be way too expensive just in the rights alone.

Because it's all pop culture.

And it's amazing.

When we heard that Steven Spielberg had secured the rights, we're like, he's the only guy that could do it right.

I've heard really good things about it.

Are you seeing it?

I've heard that if you've read the book, you're really not going to like it.

If you haven't read the book, you're going to love it.

But I mean, I read Harry Potter and I still liked the Harry Potter.

The book was better.

But you still like the movie.

I still like the movie.

Mercury.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Let's talk a little bit about this

trade war that's going on.

Larry Kudlow says it's not a trade war, but Larry, it is a trade war.

You know, hopefully, it is just a negotiating point.

It will go away soon, but Dow is down another 400 points today.

And that is because Donald Trump doubled down and said, we're going to do $100 billion

on tariffs on China because we didn't like your response.

Well, China is now expected to respond, and

they are looking at things that actually, I mean, let me put it this way.

Donald Trump just went after the oligarchs.

Why did he do that, Stu?

Why did he pick that group?

They're very tied into the Kremlin.

They're tied into Putin.

They're very important for Russia's economy.

They're his support team, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

Who is Trump's support team?

The center of the country.

Who do you think China is going to hit?

China is going to hit the center of the country, and they are going to hit the poorest and the farmers.

That's who they're going to hit.

This is going to hurt bad.

And it can get much worse than that if

they've got, what, a trillion dollars, two trillion, trillion and a half, something like that in treasuries.

And something we never even think of.

They refine almost all the world supply of precious metals, the precious metal that goes into cell phones and computers and high-tech weaponry.

If they were to withhold exporting that to us, that would cripple us for a year

until we could catch up again.

Here's the deal: we have all of that.

We do.

We just don't do anything with it.

We've banned the exploration and mining of all of that precious metal because it's up in Alaska and, God forbid, we hurt the elk.

And so we don't have access to it.

So we've left it all to China.

Yeah.

It'll take us a decade to get it.

So short-sighted.

Just, we've made some unbelievably stupid decisions over the years.

I don't even understand it.

Except for the fact that they're pandering to the environmentalists.

You can do all that stuff safely anyway without really disrupting moose mating habits much at all.

Right.

You could play a little Barry Manilow, put him back in the mood.

Yeah, we know the mining probably puts you off your mood, but here's some Manilow for you.

Let's put giant speakers out there in the wilderness.

They could be mining, too.

It warms the area around there.

So

maybe it would actually get them more in the mood.

Right.

Maybe we'd have been overrun by Elf.

There we go.

Global warming.

Listen to these two extremists.

So

this is really.

It could be really bad.

This could be really bad.

This is, though, we should put it in perspective in that this is a campaign promise kept by Donald Trump.

I mean, this is not something he hid and came up with later.

This is explicitly what he ran on.

And he said just yesterday the truth, which is there's going to be a lot of economic pain.

with these policies.

But we'll get stronger.

But it's worth it.

You know, he's saying, you know, if you're a farmer and, you know, look, the first of the $50 billion that he put on tariffs, which is, again, we should be clear, a $50 billion tax increase on the American consumer.

That's what a tariff is.

It's a tax increase on the American consumer to try to punish some other source.

But that's who winds up paying it, is us.

So that $50 billion.

Especially the poor.

Yeah, exactly.

Especially the poor.

The $50 billion tax increase

has been projected to cost America 190,000 jobs.

Now, an extra $100 billion on top of that, I mean, it probably won't be exactly double, but probably another 300 or 400,000 jobs will be hurt because of that.

And again, Trump has been clear with this and consistent the entire time.

Yes, we will do this.

He said yesterday we had a lot of stock market gains.

We're going to have to give some of those back.

This is a policy that everyone on earth knows is bad for an economy, but he's saying

you're going to pay for that now.

We're going to take some hits in the economy now, but over the long term, we'll be stronger.

He's promised it from the beginning.

I mean, there's not a lot of evidence to support it in history, but it's something he promised, and he won the election partially based on that platform.

So I think his supporters, many of his supporters, will support him through this until they start feeling the pain.

Once they start feeling the pain, he's going to need to ratchet up the it's the Chinese, it's the Chinese, it's the Chinese.

And this is why trade wars lead to actual wars.

We've saw it, we saw it a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

This occurred.

It started with a trade war, and people were like, oh, it's just a bunch of boring people around the Senate.

These prequels suck.

So what happened?

A series of documentaries that

focused on what a trade war was.

Guys, that was Star Wars.

It was a movie.

It was a documentary.

It was a bad movie.

I would call it a documentary film.

It was a very series of very bad movies.

Very bad.

Eventually, people start taking, you know, they build Death Stars.

That's what happens at the end.

That's what happens.

Have you also, we haven't gone through the Roseanne conspiracy theories yet.

Have you heard these, Pat?

No.

Yeah.

So

Roseanne is

Roseanne is strangely Donald Trump for Donald Trump

because

I think, you know,

well, she's crazy, but I thought she was connecting with the average person in the center of the country who is feeling pain.

And so that's what she was reflecting on the show.

I'm not so sure that's what's happening because

she believes this really weird, almost Pizzagate

x two

conspiracy theory that she says that Donald Trump is

arresting Democrats who are in a in a sex ring, a childhood sex slave ring, and he's taking care of that.

Now, she believes this?

Well, it's not a 100% confirmed.

So she tweeted,

people were like why are you you know she was she ran as a communist for president of the united states a socialist party called the peace and freedom party in 2012 it's the clip that we played twice today which is roseanne saying in an interview for her campaign she said i we should uh

lop the heads off of bankers who break rules.

She's a socialist.

So why the heck does she support Donald Trump?

She's a socialist.

Yeah, or communist, yeah.

Why does she support Donald Trump?

Well, it's not because she's, well, really a conservative at heart.

She says President Trump has freed so many children held in bondage to pimps all over this world, hundreds each month.

He's broken up trafficking rings at high places everywhere.

Notice that.

I disagree on some things, but give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Actually, this company has actually had a hand in that.

I don't think Donald Trump has raised a finger to do any of that.

It would be great.

Honestly, we just talked about a real case where he can help.

And this isn't quite essential essential, Christian,

Nazarene Fund-related.

And it would be great if Pence or Trump could step up to help this because they can actually do something about that.

So this is a situation where she kind of later tried to say, no, no, I'm not saying conspiracy.

She posted that he named it National Child Abuse Prevention Month.

That's what she was saying.

Like that's what she was referring to.

However, her past shows...

A, a strong proclivity to conspiracy theories.

Also, she has mentioned the person who has launched this conspiracy theory months months and months ago on Twitter, asking who he was and asking for a direct message from this person.

So, the way this started on 4chan, the message board, which most conspiracy theories seem to start these days.

And it's also sort of a place where people troll each other and prank each other.

So, no one knows when things are serious and when they're not.

And what's funny is that people make jokes on 4chan that went up to being turned into serious conspiracy theories later, which is a really weird sort of thing.

This sounds like a fun weekend hobby for me.

Oh, gosh.

It's amazing.

Just to go here.

Let's get on 4chan.

So they have this

politically incorrect message board, which was where this started.

One specific user goes by the name Q,

Q Clearance Patriot or Q Anon.

A lot of people are anonymous on this site.

Basically, Trump made a speech in which he mentioned the calm before the storm.

It was a minor blurb for a couple of days where people are like, what the heck is the storm?

Even like legitimate journalists are like, what are you even talking about?

Well, because it was never answered, people started filling in the blanks with a conspiracy theory.

The storm being

that it is a massive arrest of Democrats involved in a satanic child sex trafficking.

Like, obviously, it's the first thing you're going to go to.

It seems like every, this is, it's basically Pizzagate without the pizza.

Wow.

So Roseanne has mentioned the particular person who came up with this, which there's no evidence to believe that this person is tied into anything.

He or she has come out and said John Podesta was going to be arrested on November 3rd.

Now, do you guys remember that arrest by any chance?

No, no,

I'm just trying to get my arms around your denial that the Democrats are in a satanic death cult that is selling children into sex slavery.

Doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence supporting this, as we've seen already.

I mean, this is all Pizzagate has already gone through its cycle of being something and then being discredited and now going away.

Yeah, and Alex Jones, who promulgated that theory, actually was sued for it and had to make an on-air apology about it.

Like, that's how bad this has gone.

Even Alex Jones has abandoned this theory, right?

But no.

Had to, because there was nothing to it.

They actually went to, I think it's called, was it ping pong pizza?

Yeah, something, yeah, comic pizza.

Something like comic ping-pong pizza.

And there's no basement there.

So it's hard to run a basement sex slave trade when you don't have a basement.

I mean, if you're building a conspiracy theory, pick pick a building with a basement, please.

Guys, I can't believe how stupid you are.

Oh, we are.

Yeah.

Do you remember the bat poll?

I do.

Yeah, that wasn't just out in the open.

That's true.

You had to know.

You have to take Shakespeare's head, open it up, push the button, then that wall opens.

Then it opens.

Another interesting part of this is part of the conspiracy theory appears to be that Mueller is a good guy.

Now, most of the sort of pro-Trump media, if you want to go into the pro-Trump conspiracy media, obviously thinks Mueller's a bad guy.

He's investigating Russia.

We don't want him to investigate Russia.

There's nothing there.

It's a hoax, right?

This is Mueller is actually not investigating Trump and Russia.

He's actually investigating the child sex rings secretly.

So he's actually on the side of Trump as they're working to bust up these child sex rings.

Boy, people have a lot of time on that.

How does this, how does, how does Roseanne, I mean, you know, we were talking about Kevin Williamson today.

Kevin Williamson, in

a piece of critical thinking, said, do we believe this?

If you believe that abortion is murder, then we should execute those who are involved in abortion.

Now, this is a political and

educational thought piece.

Roseanne gets on television and she says in her campaign, I think we should execute those that were involved in Wall Street in 2008, behead them, guillotines, and we'll give them a chance chance at the re-education camp first.

She's serious.

She believes in this stuff.

They won't even let Alex Jones, they don't want Megan Kelly to even do an interview with Megan with

Alex Jones,

and yet they'll give Roseanne a TV show.

I mean, I don't even understand it.

The world makes no sense whatsoever.

Thus,

I think those tunnels

are.

I think those tunnels exist.

I think they absolutely.

Yep.

I think all pizza, big pizza is involved in this.

You know, whatever happened to the noid, I think he's running this thing.

Did you notice that

Domino's Pizza doesn't do a 30-minute delivery anymore?

Did too much...

Too many sex slaves in their basement.

Apparently, all run by the NOI.

They said avoid the noid.

Why do you think?

He's bringing you to the tunnels beneath their stores.

That's why you have to say, would you call them?

You say, yeah, I would like it delivered in 12 minutes.

Oh, no.

And that's

30s way too old.

Definitely not 18.

I want something under 18 minutes delivered.

Good God.

This is going to be unfortunate by the rest of the end of the day.

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Mercury.

Glenn back.

Stu?

Time for one story.

Choose your news.

New Yorkers repeatedly ticketed, even even though they don't have a car.

Headline number two,

mother turns placenta into smoothie

and serves it to kids who say it's yummy.

That's just a, it's not even a

placenta is like one of those words that's disgusting even if you don't know what it means.

There's just something about the sound of it that's gross.

Headline number three.

New York has finally arrested the serial underwear stealer.

Wow.

Okay.

So let's go through these.

First of all, absolutely no chance Placento wins.

No, no, no.

Placento is out.

No, no.

I do not want to hear about a Placento.

She said her kids.

Listen to this.

She said her kids said that it was really good.

She said drinking the smoothie gives them energy, better, and

deeper sleep.

And she said her kids liked it because it had berries in it.

That's because they like berries, not because they like placenta.

Well, if you don't want to

placenta smoothie, that's fine.

Have I learned a lesson here to not rule the story out or you'll tell me about it?

Because that's something I know.

No, there was much more to that story.

Okay, good.

I'm glad I skipped it.

So then you have

people getting ticketed for nothing or the serial underwear stealer.

There's a part of me that kind of wants to know how you're getting a ticket when you're not a driver.

But, I mean, how do you go against the serial underwear stealer?

I want to know what this is about.

In his confession, he said he stole underwear

because he felt urges.

On several occasions, he entered a home and opened the hampers and picked through it to find soiled women's underwear.

He was taken into custody.

It happened around 9 a.m.

last Thursday.

Young woman in her house was alone.

Prosecutors, she was sleeping, but woke up when she heard the door open.

She called out, hello.

And that's when she saw the underwear thief in her home.

The underwear thief had been in her home several times.

She then locked the door and called 911.

The responding officers say that the underwear thief was at the door of another house in the neighborhood, pretending to knock on the door.

They found several pairs of soiled women's panties on him.

And

here's the kicker of this:

he's a New York State judge and very well respected.

And his colleague said, We never expected this, but he's very good and everybody likes him.

So we're just going to have to watch and see how this plays out.

Wow, it's like Chappaquiddick.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

Mercury.