Who's to Blame? 'Society Is Sick' - 4/4/18

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Three people were shot yesterday in an attack on YouTube headquarters in San Bruno, California.

All of the victims are still clinging to life this morning in local hospitals, but the attempted killer is dead.

After firing at people at random, the shooter yelled, come at me or come get me.

Not long after, she turned the weapon on herself, and then it was all over.

Now, before I get into specifics here, I want to point out the tribal side that is taking place right now, the mud slinging that happened in the immediate minutes and hours after this attack went down.

If you were on Twitter,

and any other social media platform yesterday,

when this was happening, you know what I'm talking about.

You could feel the tension building.

Not for the victims of the attack, but between the numerous tribes awaiting, just waiting for someone to blame.

And in fact, most of them couldn't wait.

You could practically see thousands upon thousands frantically hitting refresh on their devices or their computers, just waiting for anything that would give them the opportunity to assign blame.

Thoughts and prayers, they're gone.

Who's to blame?

At 1.52 p.m.

yesterday, one Twitter user tweeted, if this shooter at YouTube isn't a white male with far-right leanings, I'll eat my effing hat.

Get rid of effing guns, end quote.

Well,

it wasn't a white guy.

Literally minutes later, local news outlets began reporting that the attacker was, quote, a white female.

No word on whether the Twitter user has enjoyed his hat.

The anti-white male and the anti-far-right tribe quieted down a bit, but the anti-feminists then blew their Viking horn and charged into the fight.

Here's the example from one Twitter user in the UK.

The shooter at YouTube headquarters was a woman.

I would like you to condemn this act as a female and do more to stop her fellow

hate-filled females to stop this.

Hashtag taste of your own medicine.

Keep in mind at this point of time there was absolutely no concrete information about what was really happening.

Some rumors began to claim that this was a domestic situation, while others said it was a terrorist attack, but nobody knew anything.

That didn't stop California Republican congressmen from going on Fox business and saying, quote, you're going to discuss with me about sanctuary cities in the sanctuary state movement, and it fits right into what you're talking about right now.

Would anybody be surprised?

End quote.

There wasn't even a single report that might have led anyone to believe that this was caused by an illegal immigrant, but the tribal warfare continued.

I could go on and on and on, because it did.

The blame assigning and the mud slinging got more and more ridiculous as the rumors began to pile up.

What the hell is wrong with us?

Here are the facts.

The shooter was an Iranian woman.

She was

irate

at YouTube and their new content policies.

After disappearing for two days, her father called the police.

to warn them that she might be on the way to YouTube.

The police found her sleeping in her car, but then let her go.

Oh my gosh.

So it's the Iranians.

No, no, no, no, no.

We better check on who's coming in here.

No, no, no, no.

It's actually the police's fault because the police, they were warned and they let her go.

No, no.

I'm going to say something shocking, truly shocking, apparently, in this country, because I don't hear anybody talking about it.

And it is exactly what I have said the last 14 freaking shootings.

How do you describe this woman?

Well, I could use all kinds of labels.

Immigrant, Iranian,

feminist,

vegan.

She's a militant vegan.

She's an animal rights activist.

Oh, she's one of them.

She's also a bodybuilder and creator of what I believe is probably the most bizarre collection of videos I've ever seen.

In between wild rants in Farsi, she can be seen working out, dancing, cuddling with rabbits and chickens, and then back to random militant vegan tirades.

It's people like that.

Stu's a vegetarian.

He's probably gonna kill us all.

Now this is the only fact regarding this attack.

This woman was completely and totally nuts.

She was crazy.

Any attempt to assign a political affiliation, gender, religion, or any other label is just playing into modern-day tribal warfare, which we are all addicted to.

This attack, like the vast majority of all others, is about mental illness.

It's not about guns.

It's about mental illness.

We have a hole in our soul as a society.

More and more people are committing suicide.

More and more people feel isolated and lost.

And then on top of that, there are just the regular run-of-the-mill lunatics.

This is about mental disorders.

Not about guns, not about women, not about left, not about right, not about YouTube.

This is about mental illness, and these shootings are going to continue to happen until we address mental illness.

Society

is sick,

It's addicted.

Social media is addicting.

It's contributing to the fracturing and the polarization of our country.

Well, that's right, Glenn Beck.

Go get Facebook.

Is Facebook making you do these things?

Is Facebook making you check your feed over and over and over again?

Is Twitter making people write things that they would never ever say in real life to one another

nope

we are

all of us

we don't take to blame for this shooting

We take the blame and must start shouldering the blame as human beings all over the earth for not talking about the real issues and the real root of our problems.

Nobody wants to deal with it.

And the only ones, the only ones that want to really express something are the radicals that are only using these things for radical change.

Guys,

we're better than this.

It's time

that we start acting like it.

It's Wednesday, April 4th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Hello, Stu.

Hi, Glenn.

I'm completely shocked that this would happen.

You know,

the fact that

we have

a new economy that essentially rewards people who are crazier than other people,

I don't see what the negative result could be.

Especially when, you know,

the plan there is to you get people who act really insane, you give them a

really

big

platform to be insane on

and then you take away their ability to earn money doing it sort of out of nowhere on an arbitrary decision.

That's not necessarily a good formula.

Of course, YouTube is not at all responsible for it.

But,

you know, it's just one of those things where

you're going to see some of this, I think.

You're going to see some crazy behavior out of these,

you know, these types of people.

Remember, you've made being famous really easy.

You've made that the

goal, just to be famous.

I just want a bunch of followers.

I just want a bunch of, I just, listen to that.

I just want a bunch of followers.

Who says that?

Jesus didn't even want a bunch of followers.

It's one of those things where it's similar to the internet itself, right?

Like they're generally speaking, the ability for people to be able to post their own material is a very good thing.

We're going to see some weird consequences with it as we go forward, I think, though.

I mean, you can't stop everybody who's insane from doing crazy things.

And I think you're right.

The focus when it comes to violence should not be on, you know, weapons, which

99.99% of which are never used in any negative way like this woman did.

But you're right.

I mean, trying to find some way to take these real outliers in our society who have obvious mental illness and trying to get them the help that can make them not turn into this person.

There's lots of mentally ill people who don't act like this.

If we could just find an algorithm.

You want to algorithm this out?

I don't know if you can.

If we could just find an algorithm that could listen to us and watch us and analyze everything that we do and then just remove the people that are problems.

I don't know if that's the answer, but I mean, it's going to be the one they try.

It's going to be the one we get.

Eventually, it will be the one we get.

After guns are gone, it'll be the one we get.

Again, it's always a problem to assign actual responsibility to the reason

a killer gives in one of these situations.

So caution there.

But like she's saying that basically she made these crazy videos.

That was how she made her living.

YouTube changed its algorithm.

Stop it.

But why did they, that is their response, right?

YouTube went through and tried to say, okay, well, this material is not appropriate for, let's say, younger people.

And they age-restricted her videos, tearing her videos down.

And when you live your life, the only value you can come up with is how many YouTube views you have, and that suddenly changes with something that's out of your control.

People,

it's an empty, hollow life goal.

And when you live your life with nothing, when it's just no nutritional value whatsoever to your life, you know, when that little thing changes, people are going to act really strangely.

Well, it's interesting because

Facebook has changed their algorithm.

Dennis Prager is being targeted by YouTube.

Dennis, I haven't seen Dennis with a rifle.

Have you?

I haven't seen that.

You know, the press has already done a story on how the right has been damaged by Facebook's algorithm.

How they have just decimated several businesses.

Okay, what you just said is, you know, it's a shallow thing.

You know, if you're if you're getting your your

meaning in these clicks and these followers and everything else, but also and i'm not talking about her at all also there's a lot of money involved yeah it's true there's a lot of money involved and there are there are people who what was the uh the website that was doing all good news and it it put all of its eggs into the facebook basket and it was just all good news you think about little things i think so and it had 10 million followers yeah something like 10 million followers 10 million followers people were were were liking that they wanted it it was a great service there was no hate there was nothing else.

Well, they had all of these employees, 10 million followers.

They had a bright future.

They were making money.

They were serving the community.

But Facebook decided to change their algorithm and they went out of business in a month.

They had to fire everybody.

I mean, you know, instability, we're going to have to get used to because things are going to change.

all the time now.

The only thing that will be constant is change because the rate of technology changes

the the the exponential growth of technology is going to change our lives

and we need to mentally prepare for that and become much more

agile and much more willing to adopt change because it's going to happen over and over and over and over again because that's the way of the world

now there's a healthy way to

work with that, and that is to openly talk about it, to talk about the fact that Bain Capital said, we're going to have an unemployment rate of 25, a permanent unemployment rate of 25% by 2030.

Guys, that's 11 and a half years from now.

That's no time.

That time will go that fast.

A 25% unemployment rate?

And by the way, that doesn't happen in 2030 all of a sudden.

2030, okay, everybody, you're unemployed.

That's going to start creeping up now.

It already is.

People are going to get more and more frustrated, more and more desperate.

So, what are we doing?

Taking their guns away?

Making them feel less powerful?

Listen to the interview with the guy who was there at

YouTube, and they were interviewing him right after the shooter, asking him,

What were you thinking?

Listen, what's going through your mind?

People dropping, being shot multiple times, bullets whizzing, people bleeding.

What's going through your mind?

Well, Leslie was on my mind, but at the same time, I knew, you know, I had to be smart.

You know, you got to be smart.

You got to be fast.

You got to think fast to be smart.

I didn't have a gun on me, but wish I did.

That's a California citizen.

Looks like an older Asian guy.

California citizen.

Wish I had a gun.

We have to empower people.

We have to let them know that they matter.

And most importantly, the lesson we can learn.

We have to talk about what's driving this, and that is mental illness.

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Glenn back.

Wow.

Stu's upset about something today that I've been talking about for days.

And he's like, no,

no, I don't think that's that important.

You cannot give me that.

No, I'm not going to accept that from you.

I'm not not going to accept that from you.

You know, we're talking about the trade thing going on.

And as you know, this is a

long time issue for me.

Yes.

I may get a little too fired up over

free trade.

Yes.

Maybe that makes me a loser.

I've been told that before.

That could make you a libertarian.

Potentially.

As I said, a loser.

But

it's biting us again.

We keep firing up this very easily winnable trade war that we've been told about so so much.

And now the Dow is down, it looks like another 500 points.

And, you know, this is down thousands.

And you can't be mad at the president for this.

This is literally what he ran on.

It's absolutely his most consistent viewpoint in his entire life.

It is.

Which is he really believes in protectionist trade policy.

Occasionally, he'll give, you know, a lip service to the opposite.

But I mean, you know, he's been really consistent on this, to his, I guess, credit.

I mean, I completely disagree with the policy, but he

believes this.

Yeah, he believes this.

He believes this.

And

here's the thing.

Mr.

President, please,

if the economy falls apart, you're in real trouble.

And the Democrats will sweep,

just sweep in the midterms.

Please, the economy, it is all about the economy.

Please listen to Kudlow and

the others that are around you, please listen to them.

This is very dangerous, and we can't take

an unstable economy or economy that is going in the wrong direction.

Glenn back.

Mercury.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Dow's currently down about 500 points.

We have military headed towards the border because of a caravan that we really need to discuss here in a second.

And Will is on the phone with us.

Hello, Will.

How are you?

Hey, hey, Mr.

Beck, it's an absolute honor to talk to you.

Thank you, sir.

I guess my point,

you actually hit it the nail right on the head with it's a mental issue as far as all the gun violence that we have, but we have to figure out a way to do it in a legal way to where it's fair to everyone to get these

mentally ill people in the NICS system to where they cannot purchase a gun anymore.

And what I would like to propose is we treat it just like a trial.

So let's say that someone wanted to say that I'm mentally unfit to own a gun.

Well, I think that they should take that to the state, and I think the state should have a trial against me where the evidence is presented, and then I could have a jury of 12 of my peers where I live decide on the facts where I'm able to defend myself whether or not that that's the case.

Yeah, if you could have a jury of your peers,

I I would tend to agree with you

because we've seen, you know, children and family services, how that operates.

I mean,

look how they were assigning guardians in, where was that, Arizona or Nevada, where they were assigning guardians and these guardians were coming in and saying, hey, these people are unfit, putting them

into institutions and then drugging them and killing them all for their money.

And it looks like the courts were somewhat involved in that.

So, you know,

I am with you, Will, that

we have to be very careful on how this is happening.

You know, but if the state starts to say, hey, you know, you're mentally ill and we're going to take away your guns,

you know, there's a,

and you're going to go to trial for it.

How is the average person going to be able to afford it?

And how is the court system going to be able to handle that?

That's a very good point.

That is an absolute very good point.

But at least in that case, he could, you know, he or she could have a public defender and would at least be able to argue the facts, you know, and then to even take that a little step further, what's more dangerous, Glenn?

A gun or a vote?

So when you're starting to talk about taking away people's rights, you know, when you have a trial by jury, let's say in a felony case, would you take away their voting rights too, as well as their gun rights?

So, I mean, that's another question that has to be asked.

And in my opinion, a vote is so much more dangerous than a gun.

I know that probably people don't want to hear that, but it's the truth.

Yeah.

Will, thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

You know,

we do have to have this conversation, but we had a conversation yesterday about the new patents that Apple, I'm sorry, that Amazon and Google have just put through to where they can listen in your house and detect the mood of the house.

They can detect whether you are angry or depressed just by listening to the voice.

Well, what happens?

I mean, one way to solve this easily is, well, we were listening.

It looks like there's domestic problems in this house.

Looks like this person is depressed.

So we got to take the guns away.

You know, this woman at YouTube yesterday, her father called and said, I think she's a danger to herself.

She may be dangerous to people at YouTube.

She is maybe on her way to YouTube.

I haven't found her.

They found her in the car.

Police talked to her and let her go.

She went to YouTube and kills people.

Okay, so what do we do?

Police didn't have the right to pick her up, or did they?

Should we have

a system that when you, when somebody calls and says, and they are verified family member, hey, I'm concerned about this person,

do they have a right to go and make sure that you are taken care of, that the guns are, that you don't have access to any guns?

Yeah, I mean, obviously there are systems in which

you can restrict, you can, you know, if you're a loved one, you think your loved one's going off the rails, there are things you can, you can do.

I mean, the idea that you're going to stop them from purchasing a gun is a small piece of this, right?

We act as if this is some solution.

I mean, if you can't buy a gun from, just like you can't buy cocaine, do people solve that issue?

They seem to be okay at doing that.

They figure out their ways to get what they need.

And even if they can't get that, they can get lots of legal things that can also kill you like cars and like knives and all of these other, you know,

there's a larger issue here.

And I think in a sane world, if there is a sane common sense parallel universe that we all lived in in which people understood, look, they were honest and

there were ways to handle these things with common sense and people had common sense,

maybe there's a solution here, but man, I'm very nervous at how they would apply these things.

Because I think people do have common sense, they're just denying it.

I think we are living in this postmodern world where there is no absolute truth.

And so they deny it because it's easier for them to deny it.

It makes their life easier.

It's easy for us, though, to say that there's this like mental health line that is recognizable.

No.

It's not.

I mean, like, this person, I think we all can look at this now, the YouTube shooter shooter from yesterday and say okay it seems like they were pretty mentally ill and you look at the videos she looks crazy you know her actions seem nutty but as you point out a police officer actually engaged with this person hours before and was not able to recognize it did not think that there was something that was a huge threat there because you know what if you've ever dealt with any someone with mental illness it's not like every conversation you have with them they're flailing their arms around and making crazy noises like pe people are completely capable of having completely normal conversations with you when they're mentally ill at times.

You can't, these are very difficult things to manage.

And I think

there's a systemic issue that's

something that over a very long period of time with maybe a return to some basic principles that we used to all kind of agree on that can be solved.

But it's not a short-term thing, I think, where we can be like, oh, well, let's pass this law.

Or, you know, what the David Hoggs of the world would say, oh, well, let's, you know, ban future purchases of AR-15s.

Oh, that does nothing to this.

That wasn't an AR-15, was it?

Wasn't an AR-15.

You know, the gun was already in the system, so any future purchase wouldn't be restricted.

You could say, oh, I want to stop people from buying guns if they have mental illness.

Let's just say this person was specifically identified as having mental illness.

Still, it wouldn't have stopped this.

They would have been able to go get something else.

They would have been able to go get a gun from somewhere else.

I mean, that is what happens here.

Let me go to Dan in Georgia.

Hello, Dan.

Hey, Glenn.

Hey, boys.

Hey, I wanted to talk to you real quick about the YouTube creator policy.

I'm a creator, and

for her to have lost her monetization, she had to have under 4,000 minutes a month of view time for under 1,000 subscribers.

And so based on those numbers, she wasn't even making $5 a month.

So it wasn't that she lost her income.

It wasn't that she snapped because of a YouTube policy.

So I just want to make sure that the air is clear on that.

Well, you have.

Hang on just a second.

I want to make sure that you understand.

She's nuts.

My view on this is she's nuts, and there's nothing else to this story other than she's nuts.

With that being said, you know, we are in this.

We're in this place now where everybody can make money and everybody can be a star.

Some people are doing it in reasonable ways.

Some people are not.

And

when you put stardom next to crazy, it's very easy for somebody to say, well, you know what?

The reason why I'm not getting views, I'm not getting views because

it's not crazy if they really are after you.

And they're after me.

They're trying to silence me.

They've changed their algorithm.

Otherwise, because this is genius.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

You're nuts.

Yeah, absolutely.

She's nuts.

She didn't snap because of income.

She's nuts.

I will say, though, and you know this probably better than I am, as a creationist with YouTube, that they also restrict videos for content reasons, right?

Like if you say, if you do something that it's not friendly for children, it's not just numbers.

It's also...

Yeah, so it could have been...

Their new policy is you'll get

a yellow monetization symbol, meaning it's not suitable for all advertisers.

That does not mean that you're not getting monetized.

It basically means you're not getting premium monetization or you're not getting, you know, Glenn Beck might say, well, hey, I don't want to advertise the blaze on anything that has to do with Nazi talk.

So if there's Nazi talk or anything like that in my videos, then you you Google will say, well, we're not going to put Glenn Beck there and they're going to let me know that, hey, your video might be offensive to some advertisers, so it may or may not be monetized.

It just makes it harder for me to make the money, but it's it's not controllable at my level.

Now, they will demonetize immediately if it's extremely extremely offensive,

if it's pornographic, if it's, I mean, you know,

and you will know that as well.

That video will become demonetized, but not your entire channel.

And you could fix it by removing the copyrighted material.

You know, there's ways that you could fix it.

But yeah, they do definitely, they watch what goes up there.

And I'm not going to get into like politics about it

because

I'm not riding that bus yet that it's a conspiracy.

Dan, thank you very much.

I appreciate your call, Bill and Tennessee.

Go ahead.

Yeah, Glenn, first I agree.

She's nuts.

That said, I think we better watch out that the left doesn't argue that she was a constitutionalist because she was defending her First Amendment rights with her Second Amendment rights.

As crazy as that sounds, you know as well as I do that if we start seeing a rise in violence by anybody who claims they're protecting their rights, it's going to start on the fringe.

And as we see the restrictions and the changes in algorithms by what really amount to public utilities when you get down to it, you're going to see a rising level of violence, not motivated by anything, but

changes in the computerized world we're in.

So are you wait, wait, wait, are you calling YouTube and Facebook, are you calling for them to be made utilities?

I think we should look at that, especially when you cite the example of that company that hired all those employees.

It was putting out nothing but good news.

They had a certain right to rely on the situation remaining as it did, or at least have a say in the change which occurred.

They did not, and their whole business was shut down in a matter of, as you said, a month.

And why?

Because of a change in an algorithm?

Right, but it's a private business.

It's their private business that they give away for free, by the way.

I think there's an there will, I think, I do think Facebook and others will get sued by a lot of these companies because of the fact that a lot of them paid them money for advertising to get these followers and then are no longer being given access to them.

And so, and while I guarantee that contract you sign with Facebook and when you click accept is airtight

as far as this goes, because they can say we can switch it whenever way they want.

I will be surprised if someone doesn't dig up an email from a Facebook employee that says, ah, you know, they're not going to change it that drastically, and they're going to have problems with it.

And here's the problem with making these things

utilities.

You make them utilities,

then the federal government has control, then they become cable.

Then the big institutions get to go and lobby, and they have all of their special interests that control Facebook and YouTube.

Facebook and YouTube, unless the government controls the rest of the internet, the minute they're brought into the fold of the government, everyone will flee because somebody else will say, well, I can fix this problem better than the government.

And they're going to limit your speech.

And they're just in, you know, government stooges or whatever it is.

They don't have a, the government cannot have a monopoly on the internet.

And if they make those utilities,

then what happens?

Somebody else is going to come up and make something better, and it will put them out of business, which is the way it should work in the first place.

And I have to tell you, I think that's beginning to

the possibility exists that Facebook has done so much damage that eventually they do go the way of MySpace.

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Glenn, back.

All right, a couple of things we have to take care of.

First of all, the, you know, the

Christian culture that we have, Christian privilege is everywhere.

We're going to talk about that coming up in a few minutes.

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Okay.

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this is bacon and cheese.

Somebody's got to try it.

Even my 10-year-old or my 13-year-old son wouldn't try these.

They're actual crickets

and larvates.

I mean, it's like...

I got them at a store.

I walked into a store and I'm like, who's buying these?

I love on the bottom.

It says, best buy, March 5th, 2020.

So you just got to make sure you eat these crickets before 2020.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

Love.

Courage.

Truth.

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As you know, one of my heroes is George Washington.

And I have to say that

this is probably the greatest day

since he passed away.

I mean, he's looking down on us today and going, thank you, thank you for somebody.

Somebody finally did it.

George Washington University, in our nation's capital, has been molding minds now for almost two centuries.

And it's, of course, one of the most prestigious and highest-ranked institutions in America.

And every student, though, that has graced the hallowed halls of GW

have come away with a great education, or so we thought, so we thought, until now,

they had a deficiency in their expensive education.

And finally, one brave professor at GW is stepping up to do something about this deficiency.

He's tackling one of the most troubling problems of our time, and one that really none of us have the courage to talk about.

He is leading a life-changing seminar on, quote, Christian privilege in America.

There, I said it.

Okay,

finally, it's out.

Christian privilege.

It's been the non-GOP elephant in the room since America's founding, really, that Christians get all the privileges.

Well, that and white people.

Oh, and men.

White men, Christians?

Oh, my gosh, they're the worst.

The founders set it up that way, you know, in the Constitution.

It's in the Bill of Rights.

Look it up.

White privilege, male privilege, Christian privilege.

You know, white privilege.

It's so five minutes ago.

Christian privilege is really what's keeping everybody down.

Actually, white privilege is still a thing, but that's also mentioned under the seminar's learning objectives.

But I guess white privilege kind of goes hand in hand with Christian privilege, doesn't it?

I'm not sure anymore.

Tomato, tomato.

Who knows?

The professor is Timothy Kane, and he plans to explore how Christians in the U.S.

experience life in an easier way than non-Christians.

Hmm, yeah,

probably

because we're about 70%.

We claim to be about 70 or so percent Christian.

I don't know if anybody's actually living it anymore, but yeah.

I'm sure he'll include a full analysis of the way, you know, Christians, for instance, in

Sutherland Springs, Texas, have experienced life in an easier way since last November.

In his seminar description, Professor Kane asks, even with the separation of church and state,

are there places where Christians have a built-in advantage over non-Christians?

Of course.

Of course, absolutely.

Like magical places like California.

Because I'm sure he's going to discuss the special Christian privilege of the California cafe owners who get to play their Christian music whenever they want in their privately owned business.

Oh, no, wait, hold on.

Sorry, it's backward.

They don't actually get to enjoy that special privilege.

They were actually singled out because they were Christian.

And they're about to be evicted from the building where they run their business and have run it for 11 years because one person complained.

If Professor Kane honestly thinks Christian privilege exists in America, much less the world, I don't think he gets outside of his bubble very often.

A more enlightening seminar might

be one on the progressive university privilege to help us understand how professors like Kane continue to get paid for coming up with crap like this.

It's Wednesday, April 4th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Our universities are becoming indoctrination camps.

That's all they are.

They're teaching your kids the things that they really need to know.

No, my kid needs to know math, science, and literature.

That's what my kid needs to know.

And you're not teaching him any of that.

You're teaching them all this bull crap of privilege.

You know what?

Here it is.

Here's the lesson everybody needs.

Life is not fair.

You may not get everything that you want.

You may not get anything that you want.

But continue to pick yourself up and keep going.

The Constitution and

with Lady Justice, who is blind,

is not supposed to be granting special favors for anyone, no matter their color, their creed, no matter what it is.

You break the law, you go to jail.

You succeed, good for you.

Keep going.

And now that you have more things, more stuff, we'll protect people from stealing that from you.

That's the lesson.

Now, can we get down to math and science, please?

Charles

Murray is an author.

He's a scholar.

He's a brilliant political science mind from MIT, and he has his BA in history from Harvard.

He's written several books.

He's controversial because he looks at the facts and then says them no matter what people want to think.

He wrote The Bell Curve.

He wrote Losing Ground, which

was credited as the reason why we had the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.

He's also written What It Means to Be a Libertarian, In Our Hands, Real Education, and then

Coming Apart, which I just finished reading, and I know I'm way late on it because it came out in 2012, but it's a fascinating look at America and how we are coming apart.

What has changed?

He also has his recent book out, By the People, Rebuilding Liberty Without Permission.

We wanted to get him on because he's a fascinating man.

We'll have you looking at things in a completely different way quickly.

Welcome to the program, Charles Murray.

Hi, Squad.

Played to be here.

So Charles,

let's start with this.

Any comments on the Christian privilege thing?

Well,

it's actually laughable.

I understand that it's serious and that I would be very unwilling to pay $60,000 a year to college these days like I did with my kids in earlier years because it's gotten so bad.

So I'm not laughing because it's not a problem.

I'm laughing because it's so silly.

The privilege is the one you refer to.

If you want to talk about privilege, it is that if you go to Harvard or Princeton or Yale or a variety of other highly prestigious colleges, you get interviewed by places that aren't going to interview you for jobs.

I mean, I'm talking about

you know, Goldman Sachs and things like that.

That's privilege when you get access to that kind of job opportunity that can make you fabulously wealthy.

There are a whole variety of things that the new upper class, which is my label for this educated class, have going for them, whereby they have crafted a world that is perfectly suited to what they do best.

That's privilege in a real, concrete, powerful sense that makes any Christian privilege trivial.

So I, you know, in reading your book,

it's just fascinating the way you use stats and the way you view things and compare apples to apples.

But, you know, you wrote this in 2012, and

it's all heavy on the tree now.

This fruit is very ripe.

Can you kind of go down a little bit and explain

what is happening to us right now?

Well, yeah, just this is the Cliff Notes version of the argument.

It's real simple.

That you had two things happen about half a century ago, in the 1950s and thereafter.

And one was

that you had the good schools in this country, became much more

willing to take kids from all over the country.

I went to Harvard in the fall of 1961 from Newton, Iowa.

I would have never thought of applying to Harvard 20 years earlier.

That was one thing that happened.

And in a sense, Glenn, that's good.

I I mean, you know, kids with talent get a chance to fulfill it.

That's great.

But what that did was, over time,

as the decades went on, it created a kind of new culture of all these kids who are really, really smart and

who

become isolated from the rest of the country.

I love in your book the way you describe this, that because we all went to school with a geek.

I mean, I went to school with a guy who was a math genius, first chair violinist.

He had perfect pitch.

I mean, the guy was, you know, and good looking, and I just, I wanted to stone him to death.

If I would have lived in biblical days, I would have led the charge.

But, you know, I don't know what he's doing now, but he was very isolated in some ways because he was so smart.

And, you know,

I always, you know, when...

When he went off to college, I always wondered what that was like because now he was in a group of a bunch of other really, really smart people.

And the way you describe this and what happens is fascinating.

And it's much, much different than it used to be.

You know, think of it this way, Glenn.

If you're talking about, let's say, people with high IQs, and let's just say that's people with IQs of 130 above,

which I hasten to add

does not make them wise.

It does not make them generous.

It's not associated with any of these other virtues.

It's just they're real smart.

Okay.

In 1900,

only 5 or 10% of that really, really smart subset even went to college.

Most of the people who were super smart were working as factory workers.

About half of them were housewives.

And

you had a huge mix in the country.

And what's happened now is that you have these kids who are super smart who increasingly are going to school with each other, and they're getting jobs in the same kinds of cities afterwards.

Let me give you a quick example

that'll give you an idea of it.

When I went to Harvard in the fall of 1961,

if you walked outside Harvard Yard, you were in a sort of middle-class Boston neighborhood.

You know, there were hardware stores, there were

little grocery stores, there were, it was.

This was not an elite place outside the precincts of the walls of Harvard.

You go to Cambridge, Massachusetts today,

and it has glossy little restaurants of every conceivable kind,

all sorts of boutique shops.

It has not just one, but two whole food stores within walking distance of Harvard Yard.

It is an enclave

now,

which is completely different from the way it used to be.

And once you're in that enclave at the age of 18, as a freshman, you're likely to stay in that enclave for the rest of your life.

And you are also likely to think this is the way real people live, and you begin to look down on real people.

And I want to take that now.

You've just described the elite.

I'm going to take a break and come back.

You describe what's happened to the other half of America.

Charles Murray is the author of the book, Coming Apart, The State of White America, 1960 to 2010.

Fascinating book.

We'll get back to him in just a second.

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Glenn Beck

Charles Murray is the author of the book Coming Apart, The State of White America, 1960 to 2010.

I started reading it here recently, and I'm just fascinated by it because it's all starting to happen now, and it's all being misdiagnosed.

People are saying that it's racism on the left,

and the right is saying that it's elitism, but there's actual reasons for why this is coming apart, and we're not addressing any of those.

So Charles just explained

why the

elites have started to pull away

from

the average American, and it's because

they used to go to college in their own area.

The colleges weren't elite like they are now.

And you would pretty much go home and you'd pretty much live the same kind of life as everybody else around you, which is not happening anymore.

Yeah, you were mixed up with all sorts of other people, too, because, look, here's an example.

In an elite neighborhood like the North Shore of Chicago or whatever, which used to be prestigious in 1960, the same way it is now.

But in 1960,

the wealthy executives in the North Shore, Chicago, were mostly married to high school graduates, you know?

And you go to those same kinds of neighborhoods today.

They haven't married the girl next door.

I'm talking about the guys now who are very successful.

They've married the graduate from Yale Law School that their company was litigating against and that fell in love with.

You've got people being reinforced in these bubbles.

Here's an example for you, Glenn.

If you live in

an affluent neighborhood and you send your kids, even to the public schools, if it's in a rich neighborhood, you're probably not going to have your child meet anyone

whose parents make a living with their hands.

They're not going to meet anyone who isn't real smart.

And as a result, they get to be 25, 30, 35 years old.

And they sort of assume that all these people out in flyover country are really stupid and really can't be trusted to manage their own affairs.

And it's we smart people who have to make the choices for them.

It's a very common attitude.

So tell me what's happening to

the

other half of America.

Well, things started to fall apart.

And now in the book, I talk exclusively about white America.

And the reason I did that, Glenn, was originally just because I didn't want people to think these problems are only in the black community or Hispanic community.

As it turned out, there were even bigger problems going on in white America than we realized.

A lot of demoralization.

That demoralization came from all sorts of things.

Part of it was the economy.

Another part of it was the ways in which white working class Americans who were applying for the police academy or for the firefighting academy found that they weren't getting in because affirmative action, even though they'd taken the entrance examinations and done very well, affirmative action was making it harder for them.

There were a variety of other things going on

that undermined the role of the male as

putting food on the table and a roof over the head.

And

the respect he got for that, that was being undermined by feminism in large part.

By the sexual revolution, another part, though, because guess what?

A lot of guys in their early 20s who were getting all the sex they wanted to without getting married didn't feel any strong urge to get married.

So

marriage rates fell.

They plummeted in the white working class.

And all of these things just change the nature of life in white working class neighborhoods for the worse.

So now we have a group of people who are,

you know,

if you don't finish high school, you're most likely to marry somebody who didn't finish high school.

If you went to college, you're most likely to marry somebody who went to college.

So

it's a normal, natural thing, I think.

And

I don't necessarily think that's anything nefarious.

It's just the way it has

happened, but it is splitting us apart.

Is there a way to put this back together?

Well, you know, I don't believe in government programs as a way to do that.

Right.

I don't think it's going to help to try to force people to have more contact with each other because you're right.

People are doing what comes naturally.

Look, when you get married, you want to marry somebody who gets your jokes, you know, and you want to marry someone who you can talk to and so forth.

Well, that does leave people with common interests and to some degree common abilities to marry each other.

There's nothing wrong with it.

But here's the bad part, which is that life gets really

thinned out when you are cocooned in this elite bubble.

I live in a town of 152 people,

60 miles out of DCF.

I'm talking to you right now, looking out my back window over the farmlands next door.

And we moved here in 1989

in large part because I didn't want my little children at that point to grow up only knowing the people who lived in northwest Washington.

Okay, so hold on just a second, Charles.

As we get to what can we do and not a government program, and I also want to talk to him a little bit about our own responsibility when it comes to social media.

What's happening to us there when we come back?

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

This is the Glenn Beth Program.

Talking to Charles Murray,

author of many, many books.

We happen to be talking about Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1969, 2010.

it's a must-read it's a really great book um but um charles you were talking about you know in 1989 you move your kids to the farm so they you know they wouldn't get caught in this trap i did the same thing we have a farm in a town of like 500 people and while i can't live there because i i work in in the city you know we we spend all of our time off there and you know the kids

You know, when they're here,

they're not putting their arm in the back of a cow, you know what I mean?

To to check if she's pregnant.

But out there, she is.

And my kids and I have really learned an important lesson that

the people in many ways live a better life.

In some ways, you know, the back of the cow, not so much, but it's just different.

It's just different.

Now, the way I've often put it is that life just has a lot more texture when you're engaged with people who

are

lawyers.

they're not all rich.

You have neighbors who still help each other, who work with each other.

You have things going on that are real life in small communities when you get out of these enclaves.

And you asked for the answer.

The solution is for people who are currently living in these elite bubbles to realize life is more fun if you get out of them.

You talk also about the middle of America, that the other half that didn't go to an elite college, they're tending to lose some of the moral principles.

Yeah, and

the collapse of marriage is the biggest problem here.

Because what makes communities work, whether they're urban communities or small towns, is the married couple that are trying to create an environment for their kids that is good.

And that's why you have the little league teams that the fathers are coaching.

That's why you have people attending the PTAs.

That's why you have all sorts of these interactions.

And once marriage goes downhill,

single guys don't very often coach little league teams.

You know, single dads don't.

And this problem, I have no idea how you fix, except, I guess, Glenn, Just as I want to say to the people in the bubbles that life is more fun outside the bubble, I want to say to people who are not getting married that a good marriage is the best thing that will ever happen to you.

And it's worth just going way out of your way to try to find that.

My daughter was going to Fordham and she met her now husband.

And she was a junior, I think, maybe a sophomore.

And she said to me, you know, she was talking to me about him, and I really liked him.

And I said, so is he the one?

She said, yeah, he's the one.

I said, so when are you guys getting married?

And she said, well, not until after we get out of marriage, not until we get out of college and then we'll, you know, settle down.

And I said, what?

And she said, dad, you know, it's just people don't do that anymore.

You know, the world just frowns on you.

And I said, wow, I didn't think that my child would care about appearances.

I said, you, when you find the right person,

spend every second with them in marriage.

It changes everything.

And they are happily married now.

And she got, she got married almost right away.

But her, her her professors looked at her when she said i i'm not going to be here i'm i'm going to you know i'm getting married they all looked at her like what is wrong with you

yeah

and and an awful lot of that is uh exaggerated too once you get into the elite school so even to get married in your 20s is considered too young

and you don't get married until you're 32 33 you're already making a quarter million dollars a year

and you know

that kind of approach to life,

I think, is missing the point in lots of important ways.

One of the really interesting points you make, we're talking to Charles Murray, by the way,

author of the book Coming Apart.

One of the really interesting points you make in the book is how sort of the great society welfare programs of the 60s led to sort of a

degradation of the four pillars of American exceptionalism.

You just talked about marriage, the the others being religiosity, industriousness, and honesty.

Can you talk about the relationship between those programs and the changes in our attitude of those main points of American exceptionalism?

Yeah,

they're pretty simple.

In all sorts of ways during the 1960s, when you greatly expanded the scope of things that government did for single women, for example, it made it economically a lot more feasible to have a baby without a husband than than it used to be.

I'm not saying it was easy.

I'm not saying that they were getting rich from having babies on welfare.

No, but it became possible in a way that had not been possible.

Well, guess what?

When it becomes easier economically, then more women start to have babies in those circumstances, and then the stigma starts to erode.

Because when you've got one girl in the high school class who's pregnant,

that's kind of a tough position to be in.

When you got six, seven, eight, or nine, when you start to have a

center for the babies, you got a problem in terms of the stigma.

So the stigma goes away.

That was the one thing.

The whole problem with crime,

the 1960s is when crime started to shoot up and continue to shoot up for the next three decades because of changes in the criminal justice system whereby the old rather simple formula, you commit a serious crime, you're going to go to jail, that broke down.

People now talk about the incarceration, mass incarceration.

Well,

learn your history.

The crime surge started when we stopped incarcerating people who committed serious crimes, and we've been trying to catch up with it ever since.

We got a lot to answer for, Glenn.

I think you're a baby boomer like me, and

we were advocating all sorts of policies in the 1960s and 70s, which were just a disaster for the culture.

That would be my sister that did that, not me.

Not me.

I'm born in 1964, so I'm at the very last year of that.

And, you know, I'm kind of sitting here watching it and seeing that

it doesn't work, and nor do the policies that we're talking about today.

I mean, today we're talking about the shooter in California, the killer, that went out and tried to kill people at YouTube.

She's crazy.

She's out of her mind crazy.

But nobody's talking about

what is the underlying problem.

We had a lot of guns forever in America.

You could go in and as a you know a 10-year-old kid and go into a store and buy a gun and bullets in the 1960s.

It wasn't a problem.

There's a hole in our society right now that none of us seem to want to address.

And it's a cultural hole.

It is.

And the problem is that it seems to be getting worse.

Here's a problem we haven't talked about.

In 1960, if you were a guy of working age and you were reasonably healthy, you were in the labor force.

I mean, if you weren't in the labor force, everybody got in your back, whether it was your girlfriend or your parents

or

the other guys would get in your back if you weren't either working or looking hard for work.

Now, we've got,

even in a time of full employment, you've got something in the order of 15%

of working-class guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s, who aren't even looking for work.

That is a new phenomenon whereby you have a breakdown in the social fabric that makes it, that's another thing that contributes to the deterioration of life in working-class America.

How did that come about?

Once again, it became possible to exist at the margins of society in ways that it was much harder to exist in previous years, and a lot of that was cultural.

You were a bum if you behaved that way, and you're no longer a bum.

Talking to Charles

Murray, I want to continue our conversation here just a bit with you,

Charles,

and delve a little bit deeper into

what can be done and the role of social media.

Is that also teaching us things?

Are we

nobody wants to take personal responsibility on anything?

Everybody wants to say, oh, well, maybe we should change Facebook into a utility or whatever.

Well, no, we are Facebook.

We are Twitter.

We are our own worst enemy.

And I'd like to hear your thoughts on that when we come back.

Charles Murray, the book,

is

coming apart.

Came out a few years ago, but it's really well worth a read now because it's,

you know, we're being pushed into racism and pushed into this is what the problem is.

No, no, there's some actual stats here that show what the problem is.

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Charles Murray is the author of Coming Apart, The State of White America.

And

Charles, I want to ask you a question.

This is my perception, okay, of

how things are.

That there is, there's always been a group of racists, and they're on both sides all sides um it's a human problem however and we were getting better as a society on the whole um however we are being pushed and painted as racist and you know islamophobes and everything else and

this is allowing these crazy nut jobs to be able to come out from under you know under the wraps out of the holes that they have always been in and start to make points and say, see, they are coming after you.

They are.

See, this is a problem.

And so we're not more racist.

It's just that we're kind of being pushed into corners.

Is that accurate?

We're reaping what we sowed.

Back in the 1960s, when we adopted

the rule that it is okay to treat people by their race as long as you're doing it for the right reasons, we opened Pandora's box.

You know, at the 1964 Civil Rights Act, I wish they had had as the core of that, there shall be no law that gives one race an advantage over another legally of any kind, and just said

that, you know, here we are on the anniversary of Martin Luther King's death, and that really was his point, wasn't it?

His point was, America, live up to the words you wrote in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

And what happened was that we said,

we gave identity politics the green light.

It's great for black people to identify with being black and great for Latinos to identify as Latinos and so forth.

And as that went on and as the kind of anger that was coming out toward whites increased, all at once you had the 70-odd percent of the people in this country who are white.

who started to say, or at least some of them did, hey,

what's good for them is good for us.

I'm going to start identifying as being white, as being my primary way of thinking about myself.

It was the inevitable consequence of saying it's okay to treat people differently by race.

How much of a role is social media playing in the acceleration of our country being torn apart?

It is amplifying all of our natural tendencies to only talk to people who think the same things we do.

So now you can get your news from only sources that agree with you.

You can interact with only people who politically agree with you.

And that is happening big time on both the left and the right, which I think accounts for a lot of this tendency to say: if somebody disagrees with me politically, they are not just disagreeing with me on a political issue.

They are bad.

They are bad people.

And

that's driving me nuts

because it's so widespread now.

In looking at all the stats and studying this for so long and being a watchman on the tower and the gates and blowing the horn and nobody listening,

are you still optimistic?

I'm optimistic for the long term, Glenn.

I cannot imagine that 200 200 years from now, with all of the increases in wealth and technology that will have occurred, that we still think that a big government running our lives minutely is a great idea.

I think that a lot of the trends in technology and wealth are going to make it easier for us to live free lives.

But, Glenn, you and I are part of, here's where I get pessimistic,

we both...

in one way or another are Madisonians.

I mean, we are committed to the original American ideals of limited government and freedom.

And I'm afraid over the last few years, we've discovered a whole lot of people who talked to Good Game with regard to that didn't really believe it when push came to shove.

So, you know,

I'm pessimistic in the short term.

I don't know where we resuscitate

a movement that says, for heaven's sakes, let people live their lives as they see fit.

I don't see a constituency for that anymore.

Believe it it or not, I think I do.

I think I do know where that movement is beginning, and it's strange.

And

we'll talk about it in the next couple of weeks.

Charles, I'd love to have you back on again.

There's so much I want to talk to you about, about libertarianism and everything else.

I can't thank you enough for joining us.

Thank you, Charles.

Thank you.

Author of the book, Coming Apart.

Have you read that yet, Stu?

Only parts of it.

The Bell Curve from back in the day had read.

He's he's one of the smartest minds there is.

I started reading this because I'm reading something, I was reading something else, and it references, and I'm like, man, he keeps coming back to him and this particular book.

I got to read it.

It is mind-boggling.

And all of a sudden, it's kind of like understanding the progressive movement.

All of a sudden, when you understand what he's saying about how America is coming apart, all of a sudden the fog begins to clear and you're like, oh, wow, this is the underlying problem.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

Love.

Courage.

Truth.

Glenn, back.

Okay, you might be seeing some pictures of something on TV that looks like a, you know, I don't know, a retro stereo receiver or a synthesizer without keys, you know, those old kinds from the 70s.

It's about the size of a suitcase, but here's what it can do.

Not play music.

It can eavesdrop on phone calls and intercept messages.

They're called cell site

simulators or stingrays.

And for the very first time, the government has

kind of admitted that they exist.

Well, it'd be pretty hard to deny it because we have pictures of them now.

According to the Associated Press, foreign spies and criminals may be using them now to track individual cell phones in Washington, D.C., the home of the CIA, FBI, and NSA, and other security organizations.

A lot of the agents and operatives of these agencies with cell phones full of sensitive information live in the D.C.

area, and they believe now these things are being used.

I wonder by whom?

I wonder who has, huh?

Oh, foreign governments.

Probably Canada.

Stingrays now are apparently fairly common.

Many police departments use them to determine the exact location of a cell phone.

Hmm.

That's weird because I just have find my phone on my, I just use that app if I'm looking for it.

I wonder why the police need to have, they should try that app, find my phone.

Or are they looking for the exact location of somebody else's phone?

In the wrong hands,

which is pretty much everybody, I think, stingrays can be used for more nefarious purposes like spreading malware.

In November, Senator Ron Wyden wrote a letter to the Department of Homeland Security requesting information about the possibility of cell site simulators in the D.C.

area.

In response, the Department of Homeland Security official Christopher Krebs wrote,

which they leaked yesterday, that malicious actors have been using the devices to unlawfully track and monitor cell phone users.

This threatens the security of communications, resulting in safety, economic, and privacy risks, end quote.

Oh, well, that's good.

I mean, Stu, I can't imagine these are being used by foreign countries.

Again, I'm pretty sure it's Canada.

I can't imagine that anyone would be compromised in Washington.

Do you?

I mean, I'm sure they're all, they've got nothing to hide, these congressmen.

They all live pure lives that cannot be.

They're the better angels of us.

they are so nobody's listening to conversations or intercepting phone calls there and gathering dirt on these guys oh no no they're completely beyond that anyway the letter was vague beyond that not to mention the who what and why and no mention of how many or how much the dhs has conducted a series of examinations but the details are hazy at best contractors and phone companies have had a role in the investigation in response to the letter senator wyden said that leaving security, I'm quoting, to the phone companies has proven to be disastrous.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know who's really good at phone security?

We should leave it in the hands of the NSA because I trust them.

It's Wednesday, April 4th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

I want to talk about something happy.

Hey, I saw Champ Aquiddick.

Not that this was happy.

I saw Champ Aquiddick last night.

You did?

Yeah, I did.

And I watched it.

It was fascinating.

I cannot believe that movie has been made.

Oh, I've got a great theory on it why it was made.

But I watched it last night.

I really liked it.

I thought it was Jim Gaffigan is, he's becoming a great actor.

He's awesome.

But

it was well acted.

It was well done.

It told the truth.

It was not.

He doesn't come out looking good,

Kennedy?

Yeah, so I watched it with my eldest daughter, Mary, and then um, the cousins, her cousins, so my nieces and nephews.

And so, we sat down and we watched it, and and uh, and I said beforehand, Do you guys know anything about Chappaquittic?

And they were like, No, I said, Do you even know what it is?

No,

um, okay, do you know anything about Ted Kennedy?

Uh, is he a brother or

cousin of John F.

Kennedy?

Do you know anything about Joseph P.

Kennedy?

No, that's his dad.

Oh, this is going to be interesting.

So we watched it, and as we're watching it,

they said,

like,

is this a true story?

Yeah, yeah.

Joseph P.

Kennedy, that's what he was like?

Jack Kennedy's dad?

He was like that.

Oh, yeah.

Worse, he was a bootlegger.

What?

Okay.

He kills

Mary Joe Copechny.

Oh, spoiler alert.

Oh, sorry.

He kills Mary Joe Copechni.

And

they are immediately like, what?

He just left?

What do you mean he just left?

One of them looks at me and says,

Don't tell me the ending, but

he never became like a senator after this again, did he?

I'm like, oh, no, you've got to watch this.

And it really shows, it really shows the

evil

and the,

I mean, Joseph B.

Kennedy is a monster.

Ted Kennedy is just a slime ball.

And

it just shows how monstrous this machine was.

And it's really well done.

Really, really well done.

Yeah, that's one of the notable parts about it is it's not like some

right-wing company that doesn't actually make movies decided to make a movie about that's anti-Ted Kennedy yeah like this is a mesa stream Hollywood release yeah and it's and it's got good actors in it I mean really really well done again how is this movie made okay so I got I got a theory first of all you have to see it because

my my daughter and the the nieces and nephews all said I said so what do you think what do you take away from that and they're like that I know nothing that I know absolutely nothing If that guy

was

in the service of our country and nobody said anything, really?

Nobody cared?

And I said, no, uh-uh.

Fascinating.

Half the country did.

But if it would have been reversed, perhaps that same half wouldn't have cared.

You know, I don't know.

And so they were really fascinated by the history of it, which I really liked, and they liked the movie.

Now,

why is this made?

My theory.

Everyone knew he was a dirtbag.

Everyone knew he was a dirtbag.

Okay.

He is,

I'll bet you that he was one step down from Weinstein.

Okay.

I'll bet you.

You can't get away, literally get away with murder.

We should be fair.

We have no evidence that Harvey Weinstein has killed anyone.

So I don't know if one step down is the right thing.

Yeah, well, but he didn't.

I mean, to be fair to him, I shouldn't have said murder.

He didn't murder her.

He just fled the scene

and then she died.

So it was manslaughter for sure.

Yeah, it wasn't an intentional planned murder.

Yeah, it wasn't a murder.

It was definitely manslaughter.

But if you can be involved in somebody's death and you can just do everything that they did, which is all outlined in this movie, do everything that they did to cover it up and to

get you off.

You can't tell me that you're not a dirtbag for the rest of your life.

I mean, just a dirtbag.

So

I think that everybody knew that he was a dirtbag, but he was effective and he was an effective tool.

And so, you know, they got into bed with him, so to speak, and probably literally with some, got into bed with him, and they did it just because we've got to fight the fight and we've got to keep the enemy at bay and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But now that he's dead,

now

you can, there's enough distance between where you can say,

yeah, I was really never for that guy.

I mean, he was a bad guy, and you know, it'll tell the truth on him.

And nobody has any political reason to hold him up anymore because the Kennedys are over.

You know what I mean?

So there's no political power gained from keeping this story away, and there's no real political power gained by destroying it.

Because what are the Kennedys now?

Well, it's interesting.

We've seen a little bit of that since, I don't know, mid-November 2016 with Bill Clinton.

All of a sudden, these rape allegations and

accusations of sexual harassment are being held.

People are receptive to them on the left.

When Bill and Hillary die,

I will tell you that I believe within five years, a horrifying movie movie about them will come out.

A movie that just shows them as nasty, backstabbing, money-grabbing.

He'll actually end up in better light than she will, but he will end up as a just a,

you know, just the sex fiend that I think

he may not be anymore, but he was at some point, just this guy who will do anything.

And she is this, this master, you know, manipulator.

And, and, and you watch.

Once they die, and if she keeps talking, it may be before they die, because they may just say, shut up.

And they're already saying it, but she's not listening.

And if she continues down this road, I think somebody will threaten.

We're going to tell your story.

We're just going to tell your story because we all know it.

You're not good.

So shut up.

Shut up, shut up, shut up.

Well, I mean, I mean, you brought up Weinstein, too.

I mean, it's the same similar thing played out.

When he was effective to their politics, lots of people knew the story and lots of people didn't tell the story.

Now that it's out, they're all saying, how we knew he was a terrible guy.

I mean, they'll be like, well, we didn't necessarily know he was raping people, but we knew he was one of the worst people on the planet and he's never said anything.

So here's the problem.

Here's the problem.

We want to believe the best in people unless they're against us.

And then we want to believe the worst in people.

And the truth probably is somewhere in between on everybody.

Okay.

There are those exceptions, like Harvey Weinstein, that there is a monster, Ted Kennedy.

He did do it.

But if you knew Ted Kennedy on the periphery, you know what I mean?

And you always saw him as a good guy, but you knew that he was a scumbag and he was drinking.

He was probably whoring around.

You would say, look, you know, I don't know.

I don't know what happened to him there, but he's, you know, he didn't kill anybody because you want to believe believe that it's human nature we want to believe that you know uh and and so you can't i i don't throw people under the bus per se for

for

um

bill clinton

i i do throw you under the bus on the whole monica lewinski thing but bill clinton if you were a friend of bill clinton's I bet you you would say he's a dog, but he's not a rapist.

Right.

You might not believe Juanita Broderick.

right but you know that he's sleeping around with everybody okay but he's not a rapist come on he's a really nice guy he's just like you and me and he gets a bad name because people are after him he was the president and everything else he's not a rapist and i bet you that that's what most people believe and most people believe that about harvey weinstein i think that they they they knew that he was a whoremonger but they didn't think that this stuff was really going on they didn't know the worst of it probably

many of them at least

That's true.

I mean, there are certain defining acts of your life, however, that you don't get the good guy thing, right?

You know, if you kill someone and you leave the scene of that murder and then cover it up to protect your political life, I will tell you, unless you spend, I mean, because there are, look, there's redemption for everything.

Yes, right?

If you spend the rest of your life apologizing for it, it's one thing.

He did not do that.

No, you have to admit the problem.

And that's what this movie comes out with.

And it's really well done.

Who was the guy in the office

that was always wearing the

collegiate tie?

He was a real goofy.

I mean, they all were.

You know him.

You know him.

Look at the cast real quick.

But he plays a cousin,

and he was Ted Kennedy's right-hand man.

Let me see the picture of him.

Yeah, Ed Helms.

Yeah.

So he plays a cousin of Ted Kennedy.

And, you know, he's known as the fixer.

And I'll do whatever, you know, whatever.

I'll fix it for you.

I'll fix it.

Because he believes in John and he believed in Robert.

And he was always friends with Ted.

And Ted was always getting in trouble, but he understood Ted and everything else.

And so Ted is like, fix it, fix it, fix it.

And kind of abuses this guy.

And, you know, in the movie, he goes only so far.

And then when he realizes, wait, you didn't call the police?

I told you to call the police.

It was the right thing.

You see that he is saying,

you're past the line here.

You're past the line.

And

I don't even know who you are.

And I don't want to know you.

And, you know, when you get there,

there really is that, that is the choice.

You know,

if you're in that position and you never come back from it, that's a problem.

That's a problem.

Yeah.

And so a good guy, even if he's, you know, look, how many Republican senators?

We've seen many of them that were like, oh, I worked with Ted Kennedy.

We worked on everything.

He's a great guy.

We could go out to have dinner after we argued about a tough issue with the Senate.

Not with a guy who did that.

No.

Again, we've had people who were former terrorists on the air, right?

I mean, people who have said, hey, I did terrible things in my life.

We had Jack Barski on, who was a

Russian spy for the Soviet Union against the United States.

If you spend the rest of your life saying what I did there was wrong, and this is what I learned about it, we totally get it.

That's not what Kennedy did.

No, he spent his whole life running from this.

And

his whole life having everyone defend him, and his whole life having everyone say, Oh, you're a monster for even bringing that up.

And now that he's dead and he has no power left, now everybody's like, Yeah, no,

he was a monster.

Chap Aquittic gets out in theaters now.

You really.

All right, it's this weekend, right?

Is it this weekend?

Yeah.

I thought it came out last weekend.

It's really good.

You should, you should go see it.

All right.

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Glenn Beck Mercury.

Glenn Beck.

So, I have to tell you something.

Just on a personal note,

my life has changed since I started taking allergy shots.

And everybody is talking to me about how bad things are here in Dallas right now with allergies.

And Texas is the worst place for allergies I've ever lived.

I've lived all over the country.

The allergies here are

everything is big in Texas.

They're just,

they'll put you out.

And so I finally had enough.

And like at 52 years old, I went to go get allergy shots.

And I, I've taken them now for just over a year.

I haven't had an allergy shot now since December because I haven't been able to book time to go back and have another test.

But my allergy, I've taken like three allivert in the last, I don't know, six weeks.

It's amazing.

I used to be put out by allergies.

If you have allergies,

it is the one thing in my life that I really think I wish I could go back in time and talk to myself.

I mean, wow, there's lots of things, but on the little scale, this is the one thing if I could go back and say, Glenn, what is wrong with you, man?

Get them.

Because I never thought that they would really work or whatever, and there was no difference.

It's game-changing.

Absolutely game-changing.

Stu's been suffering with them for the last couple of weeks.

Yeah, I never really had an allergy issue until Texas.

Texas is really rough.

My son is, he's 13, and he is, he's like I am, and horrible allergies.

And I keep telling him, son, come on, come with me.

And he's like, I'm not getting a shot every week.

And I'm like, for two years, you get a shot for two years.

And, you know, most likely they're over for the rest of your life.

Every week for two years?

No, it's every week.

It's every week for a while, and then it's every other week.

And then it's like, you know, every third week, and then every month.

I'm interested just because I spend, I feel like, a month or two a year now.

Just miserable.

Just in that like state of sort of sick.

Yeah.

You know,

you're it is.

I'm telling you, it's game-changing.

Really?

Yeah.

It's game-changing.

I had heard of this, and I wasn't honestly sure if it was, you know.

Pinterest level medicine or actual medicine.

It's actually very dangerous.

Get a good doctor to do it because they can can kill you if they don't do it right.

You know, it's what you're allergic to.

But I'm telling you, get it done.

It's game-changing.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Welcome to the program.

Just writing a quick letter to Jim Gaffigan, letting him know I watched Chep Aquitic last night.

And

I just want to read this before I send it off.

I want to read this to make sure this is not offensive.

No, you know what I mean.

No, no, no.

I'm trying to give him a compliment.

I just know how to explain it.

I said, you're really becoming an accomplished actor.

It's really hard for people not to see the real person, in quotes, as someone else if they're as famous as you are.

Jim Gaffigan is not who I was watching last night.

Great job.

I think that's a compliment to an actor, right?

It is, right?

And it makes sense.

He's not going to be like, what the hell do you mean Jim Gaffigan's not?

Remember when we did that with Tony, what was his name?

Tony Bennett?

Oh, God, yeah.

And we're like, hey, you know, I don't want to ask you, but I mean, I have to ask you if you'll sing, you know, I left my heart, but, you know.

Do you not?

Are you tired of it?

Why would I be tired of singing?

That song is my most famous song.

Oh my gosh, just trying to be nice to you, you old Cretan you.

Plus, we've experienced people who hate singing their songs.

Yes.

Like David Cassidy

didn't like singing his songs.

Well, and refused to.

Refused to sing his own songs?

Yeah.

For a while, he did.

Yeah.

For a while, he was ashamed of them.

And I think he got over there.

He was overcome being nice.

He was a nice guy.

He just did not, did not want to sing I Think I Love You or any Partridge family stuff and refused to do it.

Yeah.

There was just a period of his life.

Well, because it was like that's all he was for so long.

He couldn't get anything else for so long.

And so when he tried to make a comeback, he was like, please don't bring that up.

Please don't bring that up.

So all he would do when we brought him in was

I think he played the wedding march on the guitar.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

At our trailer park wedding.

Yeah, we had naive.

It was fun.

Because we're both, we're both pastors of the Church of Universal Life, Modesto, California.

Cost us 25 bucks to get that.

Yeah,

but we're pastorships for life.

Yeah.

Okay.

Anyway, so if you need to be married, we marry you.

Can't get you a divorce, but we can marry you.

And we don't believe in divorce.

I think in all 50 states.

Anyway, yep.

And

I also believe India, but I'd have to look into that.

But yeah, so we did a trailer park wedding in a bowling alley, and it was beautiful.

You walked down the ball.

The town's beautiful.

Yeah, you walk down the bowling alley, you know, the aisle.

The aisle is the bowling alley itself.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then, you know, you each,

after you kiss the bride, then you each have to bowl a lane.

And it was nice.

And the reception was beautiful with a beer fountain and everything.

There wasn't a dry eye in the bowling alley.

No, no.

What about the other bowlers?

Dry eye.

They were all weeping.

They were weeping as well while they were bowling.

Yeah, we could only get the lanes, you know, on league night.

But so.

It's hard to believe we did that looking back.

And no, it's hard to not hard to believe that we did that.

It's hard to believe that somebody in a green capacity did it and two people.

Yeah, two people wanted to be married that way.

I've married a few people.

How that marriage is like.

I don't know.

I have no idea.

I'd love to hear.

If you were ever married by Glenn or Pat, let us know how that's working out for you.

I'm sure it will, because if you're taking your vows that seriously, that you're going to call it a lot of people.

Think about this.

Radio host and have them marry you at a balloon.

What an ally were that?

If you were married by me in the 80s or the early 90s and then you saw me on Fox and you know, you were a Barack Obama guy.

You must have been like,

all your wedding pictures have Glenn in it.

Anyway.

They thought that you were this like harmless, funny guy playing pop hits.

Before we get into something that Pat wants to talk about, which is really important, Pat,

I got these at a store the other day.

Stu won't eat them, but he's a vegetarian.

They're crickets and larvae.

Yeah.

Okay.

But they're salt and vinegar larvae.

Well, one of them's bacon and cheese, according to the little box.

Isn't that gross?

These are real crickets.

There is no way I would eat that.

Right?

So the question is: would Jeffy eat them?

Will Jeffy eat it?

That's a great segment.

Doubt it.

You don't think he'd eat that?

You don't think he'd eat that?

If it's flavored by bacon and cheese?

Well, maybe.

Yeah, maybe then.

I mean, the other one's Mexican spice, the larva, but look at that.

Yeah, I feel like Mexican spice larvae would not be tasty, but the bacon and vinegar and cheese crickets.

How about salt and vinegar larva?

The larvettes, it's the original worm snacks.

So

don't

accept no imitation.

That's like I always used to love

Breitbart had at the top of their page for a while the official Breitbart store because so many competitors were just selling these knockoff Breitbart products for you to buy.

Like, I've got a knockoff Breitbart t-shirt.

I would sell that.

All right.

Pat.

Yes.

You want to talk about, I think, something that is really quite amazing that the press

is

really just saying, no, no, no, that's not what happened here at all.

You want to talk about Eichenwald?

The Eichenwald.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shapiro battle.

Yeah.

Really interesting, fascinating battle.

They started going back and forth on Twitter

on Friday over the Kyle Kashav

appearance.

And so they were debating gun control for a while.

And then

Ben said,

because because Eichenwald was actually mocking and insulting Kashuv.

Who's one of the students at ⁇ he's a pro-Second Amendment student at Parkland.

And he was being insulted far worse than anything Laura Ingram said about.

I mean, come on.

Yeah, really bad.

Calling him like he was

shopping fantasies and he's troubled, and he got that from some armchair psychologist that emailed him on him or something.

So anyway, Shapiro said, well, maybe we should boycott MSNBC.

And

he,

because

his profile still says that he's a contributor at MSNBC.

And Vanity Fair, too, right?

Yeah, and Vanity Fair.

Well,

MSNBC said, yeah, he doesn't work here, so don't boycott us.

And so somebody asked him, are you not working at MSNBC anymore?

Oh,

yeah, I just forgot to remove that from my profile because it just happened a few months ago.

So then the discussion continued, and he

and since Shapiro realized he didn't work at MSNBC anymore, the other choice was Vanity Fair.

Maybe you should boycott Vanity Fair.

How would that be?

And

Brian Stelter got into this.

Must have seen the battle between them.

And so he emailed Vanity Fair, and Vanity Fair didn't have him listed there either.

So

Brian Stelter tweeted out, hey, do you still work at Vanity Fair?

He said, yeah, I'm a contributing editor.

And

Vanity Fair said,

no, you're not.

Oh, no.

And so he claims that's how he found out he doesn't work at Vanity Fair anymore.

Wait.

Well, so I read this story last night.

I don't know where, what source I read this in.

I read a different different story.

I read a story that

he had quit Vanity Fair and

everybody was saying, yeah, that he could quit, blah, blah, blah.

And I thought to myself, really?

Because

they never allowed me to quit.

You know, immediately, even though that's what happened, oh, Glenn Beck was fired.

No, I quit.

Same thing with, you know, with Laura Ingram.

She's going to be fired.

She's going to be fired.

She's going to be fired.

The story I read that he quit Vanity Fair.

Not according to him, right?

Not according to him.

Wow.

And not according to Vanity Fair.

Vanity Fair just didn't renew his contract.

So what is it?

And he claims to have found out.

Hell of a way to find out.

Yeah, in a Twitter battle with Ben Shapiro.

That is kind of a weird way to find out.

But this guy, I'm starting to wonder if his name is even Kurt Eichenwald.

Is that even true?

Yeah,

you know what that sounds like?

It sounds like one of these guys who, you know, just makes things up.

I mean, does he have any credibility at all?

The two places that he doesn't work, he's claiming that he worked at?

Well, I think he did work there at one point.

You know, he was a lot of people.

Well, that would be like me having up on my, you know,

I work at Fox or CNN.

How does Glenn Beck work at Fox and CNN?

Right, he doesn't.

They're two different times.

Right, two different times.

Yeah.

And I don't work for them anymore.

It's amazing.

I'm glad, Pat, you brought up the Kyle Kash of that whole story, though.

I was fascinated by it.

That's the other part of this.

That's really amazing.

It is interesting.

I mean, because it's weird because now you're just seeing a Kashav

who's the kind of pro-Second Amendment student at Parkland that's been in the media.

There's obviously many others that aren't in the media.

And the same thing with David Hogg, who's the anti-gun guy who's been in the media largely, and there's obviously others there.

But they just battle back and forth.

And it's like, at one point, we had that idea that, you know, politics people, we would say it's like it's like two high school cliques fighting against each other.

Like now that really is what it is.

Like we're actually every day waking up to see what two high school students are saying about each other, which is so strange.

But Kashav has been so much more appropriate in the way he's handled.

He's made points based on the facts.

He has not insulted people.

He is being insulted.

I mean, which is worse?

Trafficking in fantasies and calling a 16 or 17 year old kid troubled when you've never met him?

No.

You've never talked to him.

Isn't that worse than using the word whining in a tweet?

Kind of think so.

Much worse.

So let me say this.

The left right now is talking about how they're just being bullies and

we've got to stop this because people are just so mean to these kids.

I want to play something for you.

Now,

we talked about it yesterday, and you may have heard this.

You may not have.

You may have just read about it.

It was an interview that was given to NRA TV by one of the teachers at the Parkland High School.

And what she was saying in this interview said many things.

One was that kids are not healing.

The kids, this is just ripping the school apart every day by these two kids being in the media all the time.

It's just ripping it apart because not everybody agrees.

And they're starting to feel like this is just, you're just using this for stardom now.

And so it's ripping it apart.

And she said that kids are still crying in the hallways, et cetera, et cetera.

And she said also that people,

this is not universally accepted at the high school now i want to just play a little bit of the interview her voice may surprise you listen there is blood on many people's hands through this whole thing definitely on the principal's hands but sheriff israel definitely blood on his hands because the b so not only the school resource officer but no b so deputies ever went in even while shots were being stopped so so this teacher goes on to talk about how

you know, there are other things that we should be looking at, et cetera, et cetera.

But that's, surprisingly, not her real voice.

Why

does she need her voice disguised?

Why

does she refuse to come on camera?

Is it because she's afraid of the right?

Or she's afraid of losing her job, getting death threats, getting getting killed.

What is it she's afraid of?

Let's stop with the, oh my gosh, she said whined.

She said he was whining.

That's not bullying.

That's life.

Okay, that's life.

You're going to meet people that say things about you that aren't true, that you disagree with, and maybe sometimes they're right, maybe sometimes they're wrong, but that's going to happen to you.

Get over it.

This is a problem.

When we have a citizen in our own country saying, look, I have to tell you, the sheriff's department is out of control.

We're not doing the basic things.

And the school is tearing itself apart.

But by the way, you have to disguise my voice.

There's a problem.

The big one.

A big one.

Yeah, there's no free speech anymore.

Certainly can't have your livelihood.

If you exercise it in certain places.

Yeah, you could say things.

You just can't say bills while saying them.

Right.

Right.

You used to have to disguise

you

were going to come out against the president or your mob, the mob.

You didn't have to do it because you were worried about the local sheriff, the media, or high school students.

Just a different kind of mob.

Pat Gray on Leash coming up in moments on the Blaze Radio and TV network.

Also,

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I don't know what that's that's not necessary.

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I mean, I'm pretty well lit.

I don't see any shadowy figures behind me.

I mean, honestly, if he sees powerful,

shadowy groups is corporate America standing with us, okay.

I guess it doesn't really make sense.

But what I want to get on from is the negativity in this situation, and I want to focus on what's ahead for our movement.

It's really what we need to be focusing on is the positivity and really bringing everybody together.

Wow, this kid doesn't have anybody helping him.

He's just a brilliant PR kid.

No shadowy figures.

He wants to get onto the positives.

Yeah, he wants to be positive.

He wants to avoid those negatives.

Disgust or disgusting individuals, hypocritical and disgusting, but she doesn't care about them.

She doesn't care about police.

Just she doesn't care about these children's lives.

because our parents don't know how to use a democracy.

So we have sick out there that want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get re-elected.

I'm going to see more money than children's lives.

You

oh,

he wants to move on to the positive, though.

Don't you love, don't you love our effing parents don't know how to use effing democracy?

Hey, David, it's not a democracy, it's a republic, and it's very different.

You don't want a democracy.

Well, you probably do.

You don't want a democracy.

You want a constitutional republic.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.