'The Culture of Death' - 2/15/18

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Another school shooting, another tragedy, this time in Florida.

17 people were killed.

And as with every single tragic occurrence, this is being politicized from the very beginning.

They can't even say, wow, I mean, that is so horrible for these people and their families, their friends.

They got to go directly.

to trying to take the guns away from Americans.

Seems to be even faster than normal.

Yeah.

I would say it feels even faster than normal.

There's this sense of frustration from the left and the media that they keep

in their mind losing that battle that

they come out and they say that they want to take your guns away and people say,

well, you're politicizing it and they back down.

And I think that they've now are pushing back the same way that they're pushing back against the idea that you should pray for victims.

and their families.

This is a big sticking point for the left right now.

They're very upset that people would have thoughts or prayers for the people who are involved in this shooting.

And so they've decided now

we've always felt this way.

Let's be honest.

They've always felt this way.

They have always felt that they should be able to politicize these events.

And they've always felt that your stupid prayers are meaningless.

They've always felt both of those.

They believe you're superstitious.

Right.

And it's a mental illness if you're praying.

Yes.

And we'll have evidence of that coming up on the show today.

Yeah.

But they have now, they've always folded to those to those complaints.

When people say,

they want to say, they say to each other,

these stupid prayers, these stupid thoughts and prayers.

I'm sick of hearing this.

They mean nothing.

And they've said that to each other forever, but they haven't said that publicly until recently.

Recently, they've decided that they need to lecture us about the idea that we would pray for the victims.

Peter King, the NFL reporter, not the congressman, but the NFL reporter, Peter King,

tweeted this.

Whoever says a gun didn't do this, a sick person did.

Thoughts and prayers to all the families.

Now is not the time to discuss gun control.

Get lost.

Get off my feed.

You are not part of the America we need to strive for.

So I just want to make sure I understand

that what the 93%

of Americans who pray, because it's not just Christians, it's not just conservatives who pray.

Liberals who are conservative or Christians, they pray for victims.

You know who else prays for victims?

Muslims, they do it five times a day.

Jews, every religious group, everyone except for atheists and maybe agnostics pray.

And in certain circumstances, they wind up praying anyway.

And you want to get rid of all of them.

All of them are not part of the America you need to strive for.

How about, by the way, all of the players you interview and make your living off of, Peter, like such as Carson Wentz and Nick Foles from the Philadelphia Eagles who pray a lot.

I'm sure you're not going to be talking to them next year.

But beyond all of that, this idea that now it is okay for them to come out and just criticize the idea of thoughts and prayers.

It's just, it is, it's so revealing about who these people are on the left.

Oh, yeah, they've completely

dropped the mask.

They don't care anymore.

They're just open.

They're so, they hate it so much that

the hatred has overcome their sense of reason because, like you said, 93% of Americans or thereabouts are people of faith of some kind.

I mean, there might be 7% to 10%, maybe 12% that are atheists or agnostic, but the vast majority of Americans are like-minded.

And by the way, the people who are agnostic and atheists would be included in this as because thoughts are part of it.

It's thoughts and prayers.

I assume they're sending their thoughts if they're atheists, right?

Yes.

I mean, the idea that you can't have compassion and feel for victims because that's quote-unquote not enough.

Do you know the things you're proposing are also not enough?

There's still going to be mass shootings if all the things you wanted to have enacted were enacted.

How many times have it been asked?

How many of these instances of these tragedies would have been avoided

if your proposals would have been enacted already?

Who did they ask last time?

And it was, well, none,

but we've got to do something.

None.

Yeah.

We've got to do something.

Do something.

None, but we've got to do something.

Similar to what you hear about global warming.

It's always do something.

It's always do something.

Just don't do the right thing.

You know what I heard today?

And I think we have this audio coming up today.

Interview with some congressmen.

They're like, you know,

the outrage from

supposedly

neutral journalists that they can't believe that these incidents don't drive the action they choose, the action that they want, which is control over people who are law-abiding and their firearms, right?

I mean, that's all they care about.

And this outrage that they can't understand why each one of these shootings doesn't make the American public emotional enough to pass the things that they want.

What they don't realize is it has nothing to do with that.

You're not supposed to pass laws based on emotion, number one.

The way you're supposed to pass laws are based on sober decision-making in times when you're not in crisis.

When you make decisions in moments of crisis, they're bad decisions.

It's exactly why we have the process we have.

Yes.

To prevent massive mistakes when you're too emotional, to prevent doing the wrong thing too quickly.

By having to go through this process, it gives you a chance to really review it, look at it, think about it, and hopefully avoid the bad mistakes.

It's part of the beauty of our process.

It really is.

It's designed that way.

And so the journalist cannot understand why America does not rally to their cause, their chosen cause,

because

they feel like I am emotional because of this.

Therefore, we should act in some way.

And look, the idea that you want to stop these things is completely rational.

Of course, we all want to stop these things.

A lot of people on the left are, well,

this pro-life party.

This supposedly pro-life party don't give a damn when people get murdered in schools.

What are you talking about?

We give lots of damns.

I want to stop this.

I mean, I've said this before on the air with Sandy Hook in that it's

beyond

horrible.

It's beyond.

It's literally one of the worst things that's ever happened in the country.

Just based on

reading the individual accounts and how it occurred and who it occurred to, these little kids.

And again, the same thing happens again.

We are all horrified by it.

Every conservative in America is horrified by it.

But we don't believe the things you're saying you want to do will work.

We don't believe the things you're saying you want to do are constitutionally available to you as options.

And the fact that you can't see that shows that this is not about politics.

You know, how many different policy prescriptions could we give to stop these things, Pat?

Yes, guns, let's just say for a moment that guns are one of the things you could talk about, right?

But you could also talk about mental health.

You could also talk about security guards.

Keeping families together.

Keeping families together.

We've talked about probably dozens of these things.

Do you notice?

Let's just say, let's say, let's look at this from completely liberal, crazy liberal perspective, that 80% of this problem is due to firearms and their availability.

You know, I don't believe that at all.

Okay.

I don't believe that.

There's more firearms now.

Gun crime has gone down dramatically.

So there's no sensible reason to me to make that argument, but let's just say that's 80% of the problem.

If you're a liberal and you give a damn about these victims, why wouldn't you pursue the other 20%?

Why not?

Why not lock down the low-hanging fruit that supposedly everyone agrees on?

Why are you chasing the thing the Constitution prevents you from getting?

It shows they don't give a damn about these victims.

No, no, they do.

What they care about is their own political power.

And all they care about is this idea they can go on and look like they're better than the Republicans for a week while everyone's talking about this story.

They don't care.

And it's blatantly obvious because you could pursue tons of these other strategies to limit these things that Republicans aren't going to fight you on.

They're not going to fight you on these things.

They constantly go back to the same option that they know they can't have because the American people don't want them to have it.

And the Constitution prevents them from getting it.

And now it's gotten to the point where they just flat out lie.

They just

blatantly

lie to try to get

their gun control legislation passed.

18 of these this year?

We've had to get to this.

18 school shootings this year?

I think most people hear that and what they think is, God, I'm uninformed.

Right.

Where have I been?

These have been happening so often.

I'm not even hearing about them.

And this is what the stat is designed to do, by the way,

it's to make you feel like there's so many of these things.

They're so overwhelming that you can't even keep up with them.

You don't even hear about almost all of them.

They're so common, we don't even talk about them.

They don't even hit the news cycle anymore.

I know.

That's what it's designed to do.

Can we give the details of this in a minute here, Pat?

Yeah, we will.

It's incredible.

Incredible how misleading this is.

You honestly won't even believe how bad is it.

It is just a flat-out lie.

It's not even misleading.

It's so much worse than that.

And they know they're lying about it.

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Still sick.

All right.

What are the details?

Because you hear these things thrown out by the left all the time.

This is the 18th time this year we've had a school shooting.

It's February 14th, yesterday.

And already there's been 18 this year.

Really?

Where have I been?

Yeah.

I guess I haven't checked my Facebook feed in a while.

You know what, Pat?

It's not that.

It's just these are so common now.

They don't even get reported.

They don't even get reported.

People don't even care.

Yeah.

People don't even care because it just comes and goes.

They happen so commonly that you don't even realize they're going on anymore.

So I love that statistic.

The other one is, and we'll talk about this later, too.

We're unique among nations.

This is the only place

this happens.

Okay.

So the 18 statistic.

How are we so stupid and uninformed and ignorant?

We didn't even know.

I thought this was the first one of the year.

Right.

And that you'd be wrong for that because there's been 18.

I'm now going to give you the details to all 18 shootings.

Okay.

Oh, no.

Are you ready?

This is this.

When you hear 18, these are the 18 they're talking about.

Okay.

What we're talking about are school shootings.

What do you think of when you think of school shootings?

You think about the one yesterday.

What happened yesterday?

That's one of the 18, as we know.

So there's 17 others.

January 23rd in Benton, Kentucky, two people were killed, and another 15 were shot at Marshall County High School.

Okay, Okay, so that I think qualifies as

what we think of when we think of a quote-unquote school shooting.

It's a mass shooting.

It's a mass shooting event, an active shooter type of situation.

15 injured.

Now, only two killed, obviously two more than should be killed, but 15 shot in addition to that.

That qualifies as what we think of.

And you might say, okay, I may or may not have heard of that one.

So there's one.

Okay, here's the others.

Okay, so there's now 16 more.

Here they are.

And January 31st, a fight broke out at a Pennsylvania high school.

A 32-year-old man was shot and later died.

Okay.

Now, that's not a mass shooting event, right?

It was a fight that broke out.

It's not the same thing at all.

Not the same thing at all.

Not at all what you would think of.

Okay.

January 20th, Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

A football player was shot and killed.

It was one player.

We don't know.

I don't have all the details of the incidents here, but it was not a mass shooting event.

Gangbang event.

Who knows?

Who knows?

Could be.

But again.

One person being shot.

It's not what you think about when you think about these incidents.

Italy, Texas, January 22nd, a teenage girl was wounded by shots by a semi-automatic handgun.

Okay,

she was wounded.

One person was wounded.

Now, you might think

it's not a mass shooting.

And also,

wouldn't it make sense that you didn't know about one person being wounded in a shooting in Italy, Texas on January 22nd?

That wouldn't necessarily rise to the point of major national news coverage, right?

I mean, obviously, things happen all the time.

They're terrible when they do.

But that's not a national news story.

Same day, Louisiana, a 14-year-old boy was injured in a shooting.

Okay, another injury in the shooting.

These are the 18 school shootings that have happened this year, supposedly.

February 1st, Los Angeles, five children were injured in an accidental shooting.

So it was not

the same thing.

Definitely not the same thing.

February 5th, Maryland, a teenager was shot and injured outside of a high school.

One teenager was shot, not killed, but injured

outside of a high school.

Okay.

Next up, February 5th, Maplewood, Minnesota.

A third grader pulled the trigger on a a cop's gun.

No one was injured.

They are counting that as a school shooting.

A third grader pulled the trigger on a cop's gun.

No one was injured.

That is a school shooting to the media.

February 8th in New York, a shot was fired inside a metropolitan high school.

No one was injured.

On January 25th in Mobile, Alabama, a high school student fired a gun on campus.

No one was injured.

On January 26th in Dearborn, Michigan, shots were fired from a car in a parking lot.

No injuries were reported.

Okay.

It's probably a that's a drive-by shooting.

Right.

A lot of these are probably, you know, gang violence or

just disagreements between people.

It's not the same thing at all.

It's not even close.

And what on earth would make you hear about a third grader pulling the trigger on a cop's gun and nobody was injured?

Why on earth would you be alerted to that in the media?

You wouldn't.

You wouldn't.

And of course, none of these media sources that that are complaining about the 18

shootings reported something like that.

They didn't report about this one either.

On January 15th, a bullet traveled through a residential hall's dorm room.

No injuries were reported.

The same day, Texas, bullet was accidentally fired through a classroom wall at a criminal justice center.

No one was injured.

At a criminal justice center?

At a criminal justice center.

That I guess was on campus.

Right.

I guess was on a campus.

Okay.

January 4th, a gunshot was fired at a high school in Seattle through an office window.

No one was injured.

January 10th, a shot was fired shattering a California State University classroom window.

No one was injured.

We have two more to go.

Do you think so far there's been 16 shootings I've told you about?

There's been one other one.

One other, one.

One.

Right.

And a couple bad incidents, but the things that have existed forever.

Mass shooting, there's been one other one.

Here's the last two.

January 3rd, a man shot himself in a former school's parking lot.

Suicide's not the same.

And again, it has.

What law prevents a guy from taking his handgun and shooting himself in the parking lot of a school?

I can tell you one law, you're not allowed to bring the gun on the school property and he need it anyway.

Yeah.

There's already a law that should have prevented that, and it didn't happen.

Last one, January 10th, a teen killed himself in an Arizona elementary school bathroom.

Again,

not the same thing.

So what you have here is the media telling you there's been 18 school shootings, and what they are including in that is a third grader pulling the trigger of a cop's gun and no one was injured.

Almost all of those circumstances that I told you about, there were no injuries reported whatsoever.

And the media is trotting that stat out as if it's supposed to make you give up your Second Amendment rights.

That is incomprehensibly disingenuous.

It's just, as you point out, Pat, it's just a lie.

It's just a lie.

By the way, it comes from a gun control group, an advocacy group for gun control.

Now, even they say there's only been six fatalities, shooting fatalities.

And as I pointed out, you know, suicides are included in that.

You know,

some guy who's troubled has a handgun, which is no one is, none of this legislation would stop him from having.

And he decides he's going to go to a parking lot.

We have no idea if it has anything to do with the school.

He just went to a parking lot and shot himself in a parking lot.

No one else was hurt.

And then some of these are insane.

Someone getting shot, a bullet going through a window with no injuries reported whatsoever.

Why on earth would that make national news?

They know it wouldn't,

nothing occurred.

Nope.

And yet they'll still trot this out.

You will hear this from dozens of people in the media today because they just don't question it.

You know, and sadly, I heard it from a student at the school.

You know, they were talking about one of the students who survived this incident and he goes on CNN and he starts saying, look, you know, this is the 18th one of these this year this is the 18th this year why don't we do something

why don't we do something sure we should do something but the thing you're suggesting is the thing you can't get accomplished

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That sounds really.

I think, well, they thought it was the flu, right?

He's been very, it's that type of situation.

We don't know for sure if he actually has the flu, but he's not doing well.

I guess everyone in his household is sick right now, which is something that's affecting a big chunk of the country right now.

Oh, man.

There's a lot of people here who have just, you know, the place is basically like empty.

It looks like a Chernobyl studio right now, post-Chernobyl.

So

it really is hitting everybody now.

So

we're trying to figure out why the left won't take the steps that are absolutely doable.

And one of those steps is so easy.

No legislation.

No legislation needs to happen.

You just stop saying the name of the person and showing them.

Because a lot of these people just want, they want to be noticed.

They want fame.

They want to go down in history.

Well, take that away from them.

If everybody committed, and we already have, I've stopped saying the names of these people the last couple of times.

You'll notice you haven't heard his name here today.

Nope.

We're not going to say his name.

I'm done.

I'm done making these people famous.

Right.

I'm done.

If that stops, I mean, that could stop.

I don't know, 20% of them, but if it only stops 1%,

isn't it worth doing?

Because this is the thing.

What you'll hear, and we have tons of audio of media members and congressmen saying, like, I just don't understand why every time we have one of these shootings, we say we should do something and then we don't do anything.

And it's like, well, the thing you want to do is something that a good chunk of the country thinks, A, won't be effective, B, is unconstitutional.

Why not go after the things that you can do?

And the media is completely guilty in this.

They ask every time they complain about Congress not doing anything.

Why won't Congress do anything?

You know what?

Here we are.

We have this big shooting, all of this emotion.

Why don't they do anything?

Congress has failed you.

They blame Congress constantly when this step is a step that I think logically could actually help the situation.

Um, and they won't do it.

And if you think, okay, what are you talking about?

Just because their name's not out there, uh, it's not going to do anything to the situation.

Let me give you,

I think, a legitimate argument for why that's not the case.

They act as if we are facing

a wave of violence that has never been contemplated in human history with these mass shootings.

And

obviously, it has become a trend since the late 90s where we've seen these much more frequently than before that.

Now, the worst mass shootings in U.S.

history go back to the 20s,

but recently we've seen this as it's become a thing, right?

Why has it become a thing?

Because in that time, in the time where these have become part of our

annual or biannual

news cycle,

we have seen

gun violence drop by enormous amounts.

So far less people are being killed by guns.

There's a lot more guns out there than there's ever been, but far less people are being murdered by guns.

Okay.

We all

recognize that as

a fact.

There's no argument with that statistic.

I'm not making it up.

We have had a massive drop in gun violence since the 90s.

a massive drop.

Yet in this time, we have seen people with high profile mass shooting events increase.

Why is that?

What's the motivation there?

We don't have an increased appetite to kill people because the numbers, even with these mass shooting events, are down.

If you take the mass shooting events out, they're down even further.

They're down really significantly.

So why on earth do these things happen?

I would submit to you that a large portion of that is because of the situation, particularly with the Columbine shooters, which is what really started this, is they became legends in a quote-unquote community.

They became famous.

They became the people who did these things.

And now there's this competition to constantly up the amount of people you're able to kill.

And Vegas is probably the best example of this, where a guy does this in a situation where he takes an elevated position in a crowd.

It's very well planned.

he's not putting these things all over the internet.

And why?

Why do we do these things?

The fame, this sort of legendary status in their own minds and their own community's minds, I think does play into this.

I think some of these people do these things because of the attention they get afterwards.

I don't think there's any doubt about that.

Right.

And so this is not a situation where you need to go, you know what?

We need Republicans and Democrats to come together in Congress to make sure that broadcasters can no longer say these names.

Every one of these media sources that will complain to you about Congress not taking action can, with executive action, nothing needs to be passed, just stop making these people celebrities.

Stop it.

That's all they have to do.

Pretty easy.

Do it today.

Pretty easy.

And a couple have.

I don't know.

I know we have here, at least many of the people here on the air, just individual decisions have done that recently.

I think, you know, I feel like I heard Anderson Cooper at one point say he's not going to be giving attention to these guys anymore and saying their names.

But it should be widespread.

There's no all it's this I want

ratings.

I want to get the information out there.

I want people to watch my show.

So I have to do it.

I have to do it.

Well, we don't have to do it.

We do not have to make this idiot 17-year-old into some sort of celebrity for this.

We don't have to do it.

We could sit here and watch him

die in jail as a nameless, faceless zilch.

We can all come together and make that happen.

And, you know, it's not going to stop every one of these things.

Nothing's Nothing's going to stop every one of these things.

But that's the thing that we can all, we could easily do with no legislation, with no controversy.

We can just do it.

Will they?

No, probably not.

Probably not.

I mean, let's use the left's response to,

will it stop everything?

Well, no, but if it stops one, isn't it worth it?

And the answer to that is yes.

When you can just do it this easily by not saying the guy's name, not showing his face, maybe that discourages somebody.

Maybe they say, hey, I'm not going to get famous from doing this.

I think, you know, sadly, they'll probably try something else and there'll be a new.

But maybe this has happened, you know, back in the day when there was these, all the political assassinations, right?

You know, that was the thing of that time.

Like, I think the political assassinations of the 60s and 70s were the mass shooting events.

People who wanted to get attention, people who wanted to make a statement, people who wanted to draw attention to the ideology went after famous people and tried to kill them.

And over time, there's there's been less and less of those.

Did we cure that because of guns?

Did we kill?

What did we do?

Largely, that went away because something else replaced it, right?

Now people are trying mass shooting events and they're trying different things to get attention.

There's always going to be those people.

They're always going to try those things.

But we have a real step that we could take there that's easy.

Low-hanging fruit.

You know, again, I keep going back to this, but like they...

You can, you can bitch and complain about Congress all you want.

Congress is a representative of the people, and a large portion of this country doesn't want their guns taken away because you feel like they shouldn't have them because they're law-abiding citizens.

You know what?

We've got a Constitution that has a second amendment that specifically stops you from

taking guns away from law-abiding citizens.

It's exactly what it does.

And, you know, you want to amend the Constitution.

You can go after that one.

Good luck with it.

You know, good luck with that.

But really, you got a major barrier there.

Why wouldn't you chase after the things that you can easily do?

And the reason is because it's got nothing to do with these victims.

Nothing.

They don't care.

They don't care about the victims.

They pretend to, but they don't.

If they did, they'd really tackle the heart of this issue.

And the heart of the issue is not the gun.

It's just, it's not.

It defies all logic to just keep saying.

Without the guns, we wouldn't have any of this.

Well, I mean, that's madness.

Like you said, we have more guns now than we've ever had in the history of the world.

And yet, gun crime, violent crime using guns has decreased exponentially since the late 80s, early 90s.

They used to have upwards of 2,000 murders or more in New York every year.

Now it's around 500 or 600.

That's a huge,

I mean, it's too many still.

Still too many.

Obviously.

But it's a huge step in the right direction.

And the two things that have happened in that time is A, as you point out, a lot more guns.

owned by American citizens.

Yep.

And B, a real move to the conservative side when it comes to laws.

I mean, there has been, we have gone through a period of opening up gun laws more

than

closing them.

We're not closing loopholes.

You know, some states have done that.

You know, there's been, you know, certain states have passed things, mainly blue states have passed gun control legislation.

But largely, it's, you know, we, as Americans, have come to a conclusion that we like the Second Amendment.

You know, it's been one of those things that we're kind of fans of.

And it's been a movement in that direction.

And gun violence has dropped, dropped.

So I just don't.

And the left knows that Americans

like the Second Amendment.

They know that most Americans respect the Constitution, don't want to change the ⁇ which is why they'll never talk about the real issue.

And then they want the Second Amendment

overturned.

They want the Second Amendment erased with the 28th Amendment, which states that Americans don't have the right to keep and bear arms.

That's what they want.

And then they just won't admit that because

they won't stay in power that way.

Yeah.

And there's this, you're right.

You're totally right.

And there's this really disgusting

approach that I think the left and the media takes all too often, which comes down to they are waiting for that moment where something happens that is so horrific that you are moved emotionally to abandon your Second Amendment rights, that you will be so upset by some incident, some terrible, terrible incident, that you will say, you know what?

I just, I don't want these anymore.

Do whatever you have to do to stop it, which is why you have a constitutional amendment, by the way, to stop that exact thing, right?

Because so people don't get emotional and give up rights that they should have.

And so that's what they're waiting.

And they can't understand

why Sandy Hook wasn't enough, why this shooting won't be enough, why Vegas, why the the Pulse shooting won't be enough for you to be emotionally moved to abandon those rights.

That is their path to get this done.

Hopefully at some point, you will be so upset by one of these tragedies that you will say, do whatever you have to do, even if it violates the Constitution.

And, you know, look, I am emotionally moved enough to be tempted to do things like that.

By some of these incidents.

They are so horrific.

I mean, Sandy Hook, I keep coming back to it.

It's one of the worst things I've ever.

One day, it was one of the anniversaries, and I sat down and was reading through news stories, and somehow I clicked on something and went through all those stories.

It is,

you can't be moved more

than hearing the stories of a bunch of first graders being slaughtered for no reason, by the way, no ideology attached to it, just a crazy person who decided to do it.

If it doesn't rip your heart out, you're not human.

It does rip our heart out.

Number one, we don't think what you're prescribing will be effective.

Number two, even if it were to be effective, you'd need to amend the Constitution to do it.

And you're not even attempting it to be a process.

But there's a process for that.

Yeah, there is.

By the way, you could do it.

You could do it.

You could try.

So try.

But I mean,

the idea that we should abandon these rights for something that most likely will not be effective is not something that I'm interested in.

It has nothing to do with not being moved emotionally enough by people dying.

I get moved emotionally by people dying for all sorts of reasons.

You know,

cancer,

murders with knives, car accidents, abortion.

I'm moved by all of them.

It's not about being moved.

It's not about letting the, not enough emotion flowing through my veins to change my mind on this.

You have to make decisions in sober ways, ways that aren't influenced by emotion.

You have to make decisions based on logic and reason.

And that is the problem here.

They're trying to find this

special sauce that will make us, you know, dig up this emotion that just, we just say, you know what?

Screw all those rights.

You're right.

That's what they're rooting for.

And they can't understand why the American people haven't been pushed there yet.

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Glenn is still sick today, so it is Pat and Stu for Glenn.

And another school shooting, which we're talking about today.

And, of course, the left is trying to

take advantage of again, as they always do.

They politicize this every single time.

And they won't look at the actual causes of this.

They won't consider anything other than the gun.

It doesn't make any sense to me.

Because as you said, Stu, if it just solves 5 or 10% of the problem,

if it takes out 5 to 10% of these shooters, wouldn't that be worth doing?

They're continually saying if it saves one person, won't it be worth it?

Well, yeah, then do it.

Let's look at mental health.

Yep.

And

a lot of people asking on Twitter for the list of the 18 shootings that we went over earlier.

I'll post that at World of Stew here in just a minute.

But as I was going through my feed, I love this comment from Justin.

The media said they'd stop saying the word Redskins, but they still promote these killers.

And that's such an easy, easy, easy fix.

They won't even say the name of an existing team,

a good portion of them, including, by the way, Peter King, who I was quoting earlier and saying he's one of the people who won't say the word Redskins.

But yet they'll promote

the amazing, you know,

the shooting and they'll give attention to their ideology.

I think there's been an interesting odd experiment we should go over next hour on these shootings that's actually kind of proved that I think this can help a little bit.

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Big shooting yesterday, of course.

Another awful, awful tragedy in Florida, 17 kids killed.

And so today,

because

the answer from the left is always, get the guns, take away the guns.

We need more gun control.

Today, we're kind of trying to figure out what actually would help this situation.

I think we've stumbled on at least one thing that would be incredibly easy.

Take no effort, no legislation.

Stop saying the name of the shooter every time somebody does this.

Thus, they don't become famous.

Thus, they don't hit celebrity status.

And it may discourage some because some of them have mentioned, in fact, have said that they wanted to be known.

Some of them have said they were enamored with the Columbine shooting or whoever and kind of followed that blueprint.

So remove that completely.

And who knows,

if that discourages somebody from doing this.

And I think it's not just the name, too.

It's also

the picture, the ideology, the manifesto.

What's the thing they want to get out of this, right?

Yes.

Remove all of that.

Most of these people have some reason, whether it's fame or whether it's I want to draw attention to X, Y, or Z cause

that

comes out of this.

Now, obviously, it's something that investigators need to know and understand, and so they can look at certain movements and certain ideologies to look for threats, obviously.

But it's not something that we need to all be obsessed about.

And let me give you an example of an unintentional experiment in what we're talking about.

The Vegas shooting happened, the biggest shooting in U.S.

history happened a few months ago, right?

And here's a guy who goes to try to essentially the most

death possible.

He tries to set a record almost, right?

He gets an elevated position.

He fires down into a very dense crowd,

a crowd that probably didn't realize gunshots were coming for a significant amount of time because of loud music, right?

I mean, think about all the things this guy did to maximize the amount of dead, right?

But what was different about that guy was that he didn't have an ideology, right?

He didn't have, have, there's been no known motive for why he did this.

And in addition to that, there's been arguably a bungled investigation in which we've had no information coming out.

Just because, not because the media made a good decision and said, you know what, we're not going to cover this.

Just because we haven't been able to get a lot of information from the police, you know, the investigation, whether it's not necessarily due to incompetence, some of it has been, I think, especially the way they've communicated to the to the people.

But in addition to to that,

it's been really hard.

The guy covered his tracks.

He wasn't a guy who made threats online.

He didn't have a lengthy set of writings that described what his motivation was.

Go back to that and stop for a second.

Think about, do you know who his, what his name is?

You could probably name right off the, without me even asking you, what the names of the Columbine shooters were, right?

But do you know who the guy, Vegas, there's a lot more people who died at Vegas.

It was a much more

brutal episode.

Can you, off the top of your head, name the guy?

And you might be able to, Pat, because you're, you know, in the media talking about this stuff every day.

But I think most people would have no idea what that guy's name is.

Did he get fame out of that?

Did he get any of those things?

And I think it was an unintentional experiment into the way you could cover these things.

We've got to cover the victims.

We've got to cover the incident at some level, but we don't need to focus and obsess about these people's ideologies, their names, their photos, what they did, who they grew up with.

Investigators need to know that stuff.

We don't need to obsess about it.

Now, the information is going to get out there with the internet.

I'm not saying you ban information or anything like that, but individual media members can make easy choices to not focus on those things.

And the idea that they won't, when they don't need legislation, they don't need any of these things that they say are so difficult.

They don't need Congress getting in their way.

They don't need the Constitution doesn't get in their way on this one.

They could just stop doing it.

And, you know, we've done it here at the Blaze.

I mean,

at least I have personally.

I know Glenn has talked about it.

I know you've done it.

You know, there's just no reason for us to make these people famous and create yet another incentive for them to show off in the way that they think

is viable.

There were some warning signs for this guy, too.

And

we've got to figure out how you can capitalize on that and maybe intervene ahead of time because the kid was obviously troubled, and he's been described in pretty much every story as troubled.

Plus, he had posted things online that a person in, I think, Tennessee saw and alerted the FBI and said, hey, do you know about this guy?

Yeah.

So

we've had some, there were some red flags there.

Yeah, BuzzFeed is reporting at one point.

He said, quote, I'm going to be a professional school shooter.

Right.

And in a YouTube comment.

Maybe that's something the FBI actually tracks down and looks into.

And apparently they actually did

contact the person who made the complaint at the time.

But not the kid, right?

But I guess they never actually followed up on it beyond beyond that.

At least as far as we don't know yet.

It's still too early to know for sure.

These things do tend to play out over long periods of time.

But still, I mean, there were signs here that there was a problem.

I mean, I think as you watch this develop, there's been some reports of, you know,

of,

you know, it was, you know, it's Valentine's Day, right?

You know, and there were some reports of him being a stalker of some other individuals.

And we don't know if that's part of the cause of it.

But again, I think like you have to know the basics, but

you don't need to make a shrine to these people.

And that's what winds up happening.

Well, if we say really nasty words about them,

and then we're not making a shrine out of them.

And I think, obviously, I understand that.

I don't think the media is intending anything bad by this, but I think it is.

feeding into it.

When we're in this culture with everyone wants to be their own broadcaster, everyone wants to be on YouTube.

Everybody's got social media.

They're all trying to get attention.

How is it possible that that you don't think that this is playing into it?

They are.

They're trying.

I mean, people will jump off of, you know, roofs and break their legs.

They'll light themselves up.

They'll eat tide pods to become famous.

They really want it.

Yeah.

The American people really apparently want to be famous.

And they'll do almost anything to get there.

And, you know, you have these people who want attention, who think their life has gone in a bad direction.

They don't think they can get attention or become famous for positive things.

So they try to find the most negative thing possible and exploit it.

And

90% of the time, we as the media just give into it.

Say, yeah, you know what?

Well, we got to tell people the story.

We got to tell people the story.

We got to do it.

We're obsessed about everything this guy ever wrote.

So we could do that on our own.

Yeah.

Again, no legislation needs to be done there.

Another thing, and

I don't know exactly what you can do about the mental illness situation.

It's a difficult one.

It's a really tough tough one.

It's really hard.

And the desensitization

to the value of human life.

A lot of, well, these shooters just don't care.

They don't care about the value of human life.

It's been completely desensitized to them.

I don't know if that's through movies and media and video games that they play and obsess over all day long.

I don't know.

But is the abortion culture part of that too?

Because

we're fine with taking the lives of 62 million babies over the last 43, 44 years.

That doesn't matter anymore.

Yeah, I mean, that's an interesting one to bring up because I don't know that there's a direct connection between that.

It just makes a culture of death.

Exactly.

We've talked about this before.

It's a culture of throwing life away, that it's not that big of a deal, right?

Now, I think you can legitimately make an argument that part of the reason that our society has stopped valuing human life

in general is because we've decided that there are a lot of people, it's not just babies, but it's also people who are elderly, people who are

in the middle of end-of-life care, that we just have this idea that life isn't as valuable as we once thought it was.

Now, if we were to come out and say, you know what, we need to do is cure that, because I think morally, I do argue for that strongly, but if we were to come out and say the only way that we can solve this is if we cure the culture of life, and the only way that we can do that is making abortion illegal.

Now, that would be an impossible political climb right now.

You know, I will still push for it till the day I die, but it's an impossible political

cure.

If we were to go to the Democrats and say, you know what, the only thing we need to do, and every time every media personality went on the air and said, What we need to do is make abortion illegal, that would be, that would really change the way that our society thinks about life.

When we knew we would never be able to get that done, right?

At least in the short term,

That would be similar to what the left is doing with guns.

Every time one of these incidents comes out,

they make this argument that we need to do things that they know constitutionally they can't do and or politically can't do.

And that half the country believes that these things would not be effective or are not legal.

And yet they make the same arguments every time, hoping and wishing and praying that at some point you will get so lost in your emotion that you'll make a decision based on something other than the Constitution or what you actually believe.

And that is a

dark freaking road to try to get a bill passed.

That is a dark road.

And it's not about, you're not supposed to make, you're not supposed to pass bills when you're in the middle of a, this is why we don't have the victims of this shooting deciding the punishment of the shooter.

We don't do that because we don't think emotions should be part of this process.

We want to suck the emotion out of the process and make decisions based on things other than emotion.

And I mean, we could play you.

I just, you know, I just saw Megan Kelly doing it in the beginning of her show.

Don Lemon did it last night.

This morning,

CNN with Allison Camerada and Chris Cuomo.

Same exact thing.

It's just this emoting.

I don't understand.

Last time this happened, and I thought this would be the time that people finally are moved to do the thing I want them to do.

And they still won't do it.

It's because they don't want to do it.

It's like they think that eventually something so tragic will make them think like your local TV host, your national TV host, the person telling you the right thing to do.

And man, it is really frustrating.

It is.

Because I wish

we can't have a normal debate on this because you're trying to make it this emotional pass it in 10 seconds situation.

How many times have the left told us about how evil the Patriot Act is?

How evil it was because we passed it in a moment of national crisis before we even really had the chance to look at what was in it, right?

And, you know, we've talked about this as.

I regret that now, Tad.

Yeah, and it was misused, right?

We didn't look at that and say, wait, what are all the negatives that could happen with this bill?

We didn't look at that because we were frantic that another plane was going to crash into something.

That's that's not the great the best time to make that decision, right?

If we would have stopped and said, okay, like, let's, let's pass the very minimum things that we can do and let's look at expanding the particular parts of this that are important,

that would have been a better way.

And you know what?

People would have thought, well, in a month, the emotion will be gone.

We might not be able to get that passed.

Good.

That means you probably shouldn't have passed it.

Right?

I mean, if you can't get it passed in a month, then it's probably not a good idea to pass it.

And we are taught.

You know, they brought on a bunch of these kids that were in the shooting yesterday

on CNN over the past 24 hours.

And they talk to them and they make really emotional cases.

And they say, why can't we do something?

And it pulls it, it obviously pulls your heartstrings.

And you know what they're saying.

They won't even say gun control most of the time.

They'll just say, you know, we keep saying we need to do something and they won't do anything.

Do something.

Do something.

They won't even admit.

And they bring on these kids and the kids quote the stats like, well, you know, this is the 18th state shooting of the year, which is not true.

If you missed hour one, we can maybe go through that again before the end of the show.

Not true.

But the point is,

we shouldn't be listening for leadership on the bills that we pass from teenagers who were just involved in a tragedy.

That's not how our government's supposed to work.

We can feel bad for them.

We can send our thoughts and prayers.

That is something we can do as much as you mock it.

But that is not the way that you're supposed to pass legislation.

You know, people have been so critical of Donald Trump for flying off the handle and not and letting his emotions get to him in these situations.

These same media people hammered Trump over that all the time.

And yet here we are after every one of these tragedies where emotion is king.

It can't be king.

That's why you have the Second Amendment.

The Second Amendment was specifically designed to say, hey, you can't just overturn this on a whim when something bad happens.

You got to really go through a process.

And I want it to be a long, lengthy process.

It's always there for you.

You can always attempt it.

If we've made mistakes in this Constitution, you have this process that's always available that you can turn these things around.

And that's happened in our history, but it's supposed to be a slow, deliberate process.

And that's the thing they want you to abandon.

They want you to abandon logic and reason in these moments and ignore the fact that gun violence is down by 50%.

Just ignore that.

You should feel something right now, so you should pass the bill that we want.

And that's a terrible way to run a country.

I'll tell you that.

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Hi.

Good morning, Patton Stu.

Thanks for letting me into your parlor.

Listen, you know,

when Murphy got up on the floor of the House of Representatives yesterday and immediately called for gun control, I was screaming at the top of my lungs, please, one of you feckless conservatives, get up there and point out that it's the last 50 years of progressive policies that have caused the situation where our moral fabric has gotten to the point where kids are picking up guns and shooting up other kids.

I mean, it goes clear back to when they started it with the

no-fault divorces, and then they threw all the doors for the mental institutions open.

You know, they divided everybody up into groups that all hate each other.

They're all progressive policies.

Every one of these shootings could probably be traced back to a progressive policy in somebody's life.

The verb progressives have taught them to be this way.

And, you know, we need to, instead of talking about gun control, we need to, every time someone brings it up, we need to throw it right back in their face.

Look, it's your progressive policies that have broken down our society, and we need to end them now.

What do you think?

I mean, it's a big part of it, right?

It is.

I mean, I think.

Thanks, Chuck.

Appreciate it.

It's true.

I mean, you know, it's true.

It is true.

But there's no Republicans in office anyway who are adept at making these arguments.

They just seem to take that.

They seem to absorb it.

They don't seem to refute

what the Democrats are saying.

I don't understand it.

It's always left up to us in talk radio to defend conservative values.

And I don't know why Republicans can't do it.

Yeah, I don't know either.

I mean, you know, even from the stupid talking points that everybody's controlled by the NRA.

Oh, good.

I mean, a few thousand dollar donation from the NRA to a candidate is going to make them decide they want children dead.

I mean, how stupid do you have to be to believe that?

Honestly, like, you have to be

abject.

You just have to be a moron.

I'll leave it at that.

But you have to be a moron to believe that.

And by the way,

I think it was 538 did a, it might have been the New York Times, did a

study of

what they asked experts on guns and crime what measures could be enacted in gun control, in the gun control realm that would actually be effective in stopping mass shootings.

They went through and they decided to ask everybody, okay,

what would be the best one to do?

And the number one thing they came up with from all these experts was the assault weapons ban.

Now, this is something that has already been tried.

They did this in the 90s, and the Department of Justice found there was no decrease in murder because of it.

And this was their number one recommendation.

If you did this, this would be the best thing.

They've already done it, and there was no decrease in murder rates.

So I, you know, look, is there something in there somewhere?

I mean, you know, they talked about the bump stock thing from the last shooting.

And, you know, could that be prevented?

They think they can do that through maybe regulation rather than legislation.

I mean, there's a a lot of talk about that.

But I mean, like, it's not to say that there's nothing around guns that

can be talked about, you know, but you've got to be super careful.

And again, you have the limitation of the Constitution.

They've already gone past the limitations of the Constitution.

They've already passed tons of stuff that completely violates the Second Amendment.

I'm kind of moved by the phrase, shall not be infringed.

That seems really strange.

It's pretty clear.

Yeah, really strange.

Pretty darn clear.

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So I'm on my way home last night after work and after the TV show, which you can see again today at 5.30, called called The News and Why It Matters.

It's Patton Stuffer, Glenn, by the way, who's still sick today.

But I'm listening to a supposedly conservative talk show host, and he's arguing for gun control.

You don't need AR-15s.

You don't need,

I love that argument.

You don't need automatic weapons.

You don't know what I, first of all, you don't know what I need.

And you don't know what I may need in 10 years or 15 or 20 years from now.

I may very well need a machine gun to protect myself from

an oppressive government.

Right.

And you can't even have the machine gun.

You can't even have an AR-15.

Right.

So you can't determine

what I need and what I don't need.

But his callers are obviously going crazy because it's a conservative station and

they're asking him

where he's coming from.

Where does it say in the Second Amendment, he asks?

That it's okay to have an AR-15 or an automatic weapon.

Well, I'll tell you where it says.

In the phrase, shall not be infringed.

Right.

That's where it says.

Yeah, the Constitution doesn't list the things you can have.

It says the things that government can't take away from you.

It's a charter of negative liberties

on purpose.

Yeah.

On purpose.

Right.

Just for this reason, because they knew they couldn't list every right you'll eventually have.

So what they did was list the things government can't do to you.

Right.

I mean, you know, I don't like listening to people talk about Kim Kardashian.

It does not interest me.

I I don't like it.

If I tried to ban it, I could say.

Well, where in the First Amendment does it say you could talk about Kim Kardashian?

She's not even mentioned.

Well, yeah, I know.

What they said is, I can't stop you from talking about anything.

The First Amendment, you can talk about it.

I can't risk it.

It has nothing to do with.

Well, what if they come up with new words that we've never heard before?

Like, it's just such a silly argument

and disingenuous.

People, obviously.

Like, there's a thing going on where we say, well, we really want that.

We really don't want people with guns that can shoot a lot of people.

Therefore, we should apply that desire of ours and apply it and just insert it in the Constitution, and we'll find a slot for it.

That's kind of the way we've been looking at this for a long time.

That is, I mean, even conservatives have done that over time.

There's been, I think, excessive regulation on the Second Amendment.

And this comes from a guy who's not a gun guy.

I am not necessarily interested in guns.

I don't particularly have the interest

in going to the range of.

Your friends ask me to go shooting all the time.

Yeah,

I don't have a passion for it at all.

I do have a passion for the Constitution and the Second Amendment,

which says, what was that phrase again, Pat?

Shall not be infringed.

It's really super duper clear.

It's as clear as it gets.

I don't know that there's any other,

I don't know if there's a more clear amendment in the Constitution than the Second.

It's just so obvious.

Shall not be infringed.

All right.

Well,

you can't do this.

You can't do all of these gun regulations.

And that's why they deemed Chicago's regulations unconstitutional because they were.

And if they challenged New York's, they'd probably be unconstitutional as well.

Same in D.C.

and New Orleans and wherever else they're doing these egregious gun laws.

In D.C., it happened too, right after Heller.

Right.

In Chicago.

I mean, you know, we all know that it's an individual right to pair arms.

That's now been decided by the Supreme Court.

I know the left loves to talk about settled law.

Yeah.

So I'm sure they'd accept that.

Although, for some reason, that one's not settled.

That one's not settled.

I don't know why.

Neither is Citizens United and really anything they've ever had against them.

That's not settled law.

Eventually they'll get that overturned.

But I mean, Roe versus Wade, super settled.

Settled in constitutional law, not in the Constitution.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Triple eight, 727 back.

I wanted to make sure we really quickly make everyone aware of the real story going on with the shooting.

Okay.

Alex Jones has it.

Oh, he does.

He does.

And now he's not saying.

I mean, so often he does.

I want to make sure you understand.

He's not saying this is what happened.

Oh.

Okay.

Okay.

He's very clear about that.

He's just bringing it up in a vocal way.

He's not saying it.

He's just making you aware of the possibility with his vocal cords, which is different than saying it.

He's been saying it.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Let's listen to Alex explain.

The Democrats have been caught in false flags before.

I'm not saying this is a false flag.

He's not.

I'm just saying.

But they've been talking about massacres and things.

And people don't leave them alone and they're releasing the memo.

So if there are massacres and threatening massacres, that makes them suspects when they've been threatening massacres and who knows what mentally ill person

they've wound up or what's happening or is this gang related.

We don't know.

The media will say that I said it's a false flag of the Democrats did it.

I did not say that.

No, he didn't say he did.

He's simply questioning the long history that these folks have.

Now they've been apparently.

I didn't say it.

I just

saying it.

But I didn't say it.

I'm just saying that I didn't say it

when I said it at the beginning.

The Democrats have been talking about massacres for a long time.

What is a massacre?

I don't know, but they've been talking about massacres for a long time.

Apparently, if they don't release the memo, what was the memo?

What did that have to do with it?

I don't know.

I don't know.

He's a magician, man.

But he didn't say it.

I want you to know he didn't say it.

He didn't say it.

He did not say it.

He just said they're well known for these false flags, and this could be another false flag.

But he's not saying that the Democrats are doing this false flag.

Every shooting with this guy, every shooting, and every terrorist attack is a false flag.

Is there anything real that happens in the world?

No, there are no flags.

There's no flags, there's only false ones.

There's no shootings.

There's only pretend shootings.

I'll bet you in two weeks, maybe sooner, he'll be saying these are crisis actors.

Right?

I mean, isn't this what we get from him?

You wonder if he's learned his lesson.

He's had to make multiple public apologies

for what he said immediately after that.

So I think maybe he's learned a lesson to couch it in that language.

Which is why he's shang.

He's not Shang.

That's why.

Because, yeah, he's gotten in some trouble.

Because, first of all, he said Sandy Hooker was a false flag and he discussed it often.

And then he says, I never said Sandy Hook is a false flag.

Well, yeah, you did.

Yeah, you really did.

You kind of.

You kind of did.

In fact, more than kind of.

He just did.

He said exactly that.

Yeah.

Earl in Ohio,

you're on the Glenbeck program, hi.

If we have a high cap problem on our weapons, the common thread, I believe, is also the antidepressants in this country.

It's been handed out like candy, and nobody really follows this.

Every one of these guys is a smoke and gun, and the common thread is antidepressants.

And I've actually had a friend of mine I put, you know, actually at the veterans hospital that was mental.

And I want to tell you, you can't just go into a psychiatrist and get a pill and then send them home to the family.

And that is what's happening.

The valuation of an individual is not being evaluated on all these antidepressants.

And I truly believe if you're on an antidepressant, you shouldn't have a gun, be allowed to own a gun.

And it ought to be tracked.

Wow, that's a lot of people.

Appreciate the call, Earl.

But

that's tens of millions of people who are on antidepressants.

I think it's

important to look at this because I think as a part of this equation,

should that be studied I think sure right I mean why wouldn't we look at well yeah I think all of this stuff needs to except for gun control needs to be studied yeah I think we there is a bit of a chicken and the egg situation with antidepressants in that you know

you don't get on them unless you're having an issue so the people if the people who have issues and have shooting and commit shootings uh it's not necessarily surprising they would have had psychiatric treatment or uh you are on antidepressants or other drugs we don't know that you know like we don't know that the drug is causing it it.

I mean, they went on the drug for a reason.

Right.

Right.

So it's, you know, but I mean, is it part of the equation to look at?

I think, sure.

Yeah.

I mean, I want to look at it.

Especially when you hear the side effects on all these drugs that are advertised.

Wait, it's an antidepressant that may cause me to become suicidal?

Isn't that what I'm trying to prevent?

What?

Wait, what?

I'm just.

That's why I'm taking your medicine.

It's so I won't be.

This diet pill may make you move next to a buffet.

You may make poor real estate decisions based on buffet location.

If you ever pay attention to the list of side effects,

there's about three benefits that are mentioned at the beginning of the commercial, and the other 57 seconds are.

It may kill you.

It's true, too.

In a lot of different ways.

So many of those are like the odds of it happening are so low, but they force these companies to put every single negative outcome in the commercial.

So it makes the advertisement virtually ineffective.

It's really strange.

This might even give me brain tumors and tuberculosis.

I don't want that.

Josh in Utah, welcome to the Glenpack program.

Josh, you there?

Okay.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

I think one of the biggest things that's the most common thread in all this is the greedia, as I call them, rather than the media, because they're more about ratings and everything else.

And they want to be the first one out with the first name and everything else.

But if you look at all the killings that happen,

the weapon doesn't always stay the same, but the media does.

Yeah.

It's true.

Yeah.

It's true.

And, you know, look, the name's going to get out there.

There's social media.

There's the internet.

I mean, it's going to get out there in some way, but there's no reason to feed into it.

I still think, too, there's something about there's a difference between, you know, someone tweeting about your name and someone being on CNN, dissecting all of your views for hours and then running documentaries about it.

No question.

You know, I think that's part of it.

But I mean,

another part of it is just we need to understand the real threats here.

And I think too much has been ignored.

And luckily, we have people like Stephen King,

the author, who can kind of inform us and really hit home with the reality of the situation.

Has he shared more wisdom?

He has.

Now, Rick Wilson.

I don't know if you know Rick Wilson.

He's a Republican consultant.

He's on the media a lot.

He was talking about

the idea of MS-13 being a danger.

And he said, you're much more likely to be killed

Florida by an opioid overdose than MS-13.

And he was making a point and saying, you know, hey, you know, maybe MS-13 shouldn't be our top concern.

And he's, you know, kind of a guy who's, you know, he opposes Trump.

And so it's not necessarily a big surprise that he'd have that viewpoint.

But Stephen King took him to task because he tweeted that.

Rick Wilson tweeted that before the shooting happened.

Stephen King responded.

Again, this is the tweet from Rick Wilson.

You're a hell of a lot more likely likely to be killed in Florida

by an opioid overdose than MS-13.

Stephen King's response, don't tell that to the parents of the kids who got shot in Broward County today, Sport.

Because Stephen King thought MS-13, the gang, was a gun.

He thought it was AR-15

because he's an idiot.

My gosh.

Oh, yeah, tell that.

He thought.

It is unbelievable.

This is how dumb.

Did the shooter use an MS-13?

I don't know.

Did he?

No one's even covering that.

I will say this for all the, I mean, because these things are freaking, I hate these days.

I hate talking about this.

I hate that this keeps happening.

I hate that our society is sick enough that this continues to occur.

But man, do mass shootings really bring out the stupid of so many people?

And look, and that's what we've been talking about the whole day, Pat.

It really does.

It brings out the stupid.

And at some level, you can even understand it.

You're so emotional.

You're just going to say things that are stupid.

You're going to say, MS-13 is a gun.

You're that stupid in those moments.

That's why you don't make laws in those moments.

That's not the time to make laws because you're overcome by emotion and you're not making decisions rationally.

So, I mean, I guess that comes back to the theme of the day here.

And we've seen this.

We have so much, you know,

crazy audio that we can play for you, even crazier than Alex Jones, arguably.

And we should get to that.

We have your phone calls as well at 888-727-BECK.

But I just,

you know,

I can't get past the way people handle these things.

There is no real desire for someone to solve it.

They want this gun control bill.

They want to take away your guns because they've ideologically wanted it.

They know it inflames their base.

And they've been wanting that forever.

And they try to use every one of these things to get that through.

When, again, even if, let's say, a quarter of the problem in their minds is on other issues, why don't you take those up when you don't have no control of the Republic?

You don't don't have control of the Senate.

You don't have control of the House.

You don't have control of the presidency.

You know, there's opposition on the only thing you ever ask for.

Why not ask for something else?

Why not entertain the idea of

armed security guards, which has been proposed by many?

Again, would that help?

I mean, obviously, it would be harder to shoot up a school if someone was there, a trained security agent with a gun.

Now, you might not like that.

In almost every case.

Yeah.

Since what was it, 1956?

These have happened in gun-free zones.

Yeah.

In almost every case.

It's like 98 or 99% of the cases.

Because unless you're a complete crazy person with no, you know, like there have been some mass murderers who are just so insane they weren't making rational choices leading up to it.

But I mean, look, you know, look at, you know, so many of the school shootings.

They just make an easy decision.

Well, I know there won't be guns there.

Right.

I know there won't be guns in that movie theater.

I know I can walk into any of these places and I know there won't be resistance.

Why would I go?

They don't happen that often at gun stores.

People don't go walk into

the police department all that often and try to mass shooting.

Generally speaking, they go to places where they know they will face zero resistance.

And that's why these laws, I mean, we know for a fact, this shooter yesterday, obviously he broke the law for murder, but he broke multiple other laws.

He shouldn't have had the gun in the school.

It was a gun-free zone.

He broke tons of other laws, and no one cares about that.

They just act as if the next law is going to be the magic one.

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Honestly, a lot of people

were saying that it was going to be him, stuff like that.

We actually, we threw a lot of kids through jokes around like that, saying that he was the one that screwed up the school, but it turns out, you know, everyone predicted it.

It's, it's, that's crazy.

Wow, he must have come onto campus, right?

Yeah, he was on the third floor.

He knows the school layout.

He knows where everyone would be at as of right now.

He's been in this on fire joes.

He's prepared for this stuff.

I mean, the guy, there were a lot of warning signs here.

This is not about the gun.

There were all kinds of warning signs about this guy, and they were all ignored.

Isn't that what we should focus on?

Isn't that what we should talk about?

How do we help somebody in this situation before they get to this point?

That's what we should be talking about.

Not how to overturn the Second Amendment.

But that'll be the focus.

That's always the focus.

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Today it's Pat and Stu for Glenn, who's out sick again today.

You can also listen to my show, Pat Gray Unleashed, immediately following this on the Blaze Radio and TV network,

where we've been talking about the school shooting, of course, yesterday in Florida, yet another one with

loss of lives of 17 kids at school.

Just horrific again.

And, of course,

no sooner does it happen than the gun control stuff starts.

And we just heard from the superintendent of the school system now is the time to discuss common sense gun control now is the time for common sense gun reform

there's never a time for that

as long as you have the second amendment there's never a time for that it's a following a constitutional amendment there could be a time for that right and look and you know there obviously are plenty of gun restrictions in this country and you know certainly more at the state level than there are federally uh you know if there was something that could fall into the context of the Constitution somehow that would help

violence, obviously everyone would be open to it.

You know, I mean, I think you wonder very realistically about a slippery slope type of situation.

I mean, one of the reasons why you need to defend every single gun law is because the second they get the one they're talking about, they're going to go for 10 more.

And then you're going to be defending those.

And they won't talk about anything, you know, desensitizing of human life.

That's really an issue.

I don't know if it's a video game situation where you've killed so many things on the video game that you now feel like everything is a video game, even real life.

Wasn't that the situation they thought or they suspected with one of these killers, Adam Lanza, one of them,

was

obsessed with video games.

And they thought he had maybe been desensitized a little bit to human life.

How about the abortion industry desensitizing us to human life?

Man, I don't care about 62 million babies being killed.

Couldn't care less.

And they're teaching that to our children.

And they're teaching to our children just how important that is to them.

That, boy, you better not take that from me.

You can't take that right from me.

If I want to end the life of this baby, I can.

We've eliminated God from our lives and our society.

Listen to this candidate.

I believe he's a U.S.

Senate candidate in Tennessee

about thoughts and prayers.

I just want to pop in and share some fantastic news with everyone.

I was talking to some Republican friends, and we were talking about the most recent school shooting in Parkland, Florida that's going on right now.

And the good news is thoughts and prayers stopped the entire shooting right in its tracks.

And we don't have to worry about guns anymore because we have thoughts and prayers, and none of this is ever going to happen again.

So, all those thoughts and prayers, they worked.

Nobody got injured.

Nobody's going to die.

And in fact, when you pray a whole lot about it, guns actually just stop working completely.

You can stop bullets with prayer.

Yeah, I know.

It's crazy that,

you know, I didn't believe it myself.

It's time to bail.

The bid isn't working.

I know you're still trying to make it work.

It's not happening.

It's time to bail.

What a douche.

I know.

Again, this idea that this is their solution shows, you know, people like to use the phrase, why Trump won.

I mean, if that, that is not a great explanation of it.

The fact that you're to come out after a national tragedy and mock people praying for the victims, showing compassion, you might not think it's going to solve all the problems, but the idea that you come out and mock people for praying for victims, or if they're atheists, sending their thoughts to the families to try to comfort them in a difficult time.

The idea that you're acting as if that is an enemy tells us a lot about who you are as a person.

And we saw this all over

Twitter, media personalities.

It's just thoughts and prayers are not enough.

I heard it again this morning.

Do we have the CNN?

Representative

Ted Deutsch.

I don't know if it's in this clip or not.

Can we play one of these clips?

This is, you know, he's on CNN this morning.

And this is the, it's the top 10 arguments just recycled over and over and over again for every one of these things.

And none of them have worked, right?

Like, if you're a liberal and you've said,

I want these things to happen, you haven't been able to get them happen.

At some point, would you try thinking about something else?

Here's Representative Ted Deutsch.

I don't know how many times I have to ask the question about why we can't stop this.

Do you have any wisdom on this?

Well, it's not wisdom that we need, it's action that we need.

I just appreciate the interview that you just did with the two students.

And

as they were leaving, I just went to tell them how brave I thought they were.

And he looked at me and he said, we want action and that's

that that's coming from someone who had to endure just unspeakable horror yesterday what happened here just want action in in an incredible community full of wonderful people the kids at the school I was at the school just a few weeks ago

these are some of the best kids you'll find anywhere and this is considered it was voted the safest town in Florida.

Right.

And so what all that that shows us is that no one is immune from this kind of from this kind of slaughter.

And look,

I have to tell you, for all of the people who have been saying you can't politicize this, for the people who have gone into attack, anyone who said anything about the need to do something, the only people who are politicizing what happened here, the loss of life, the tragedy,

one of the worst days that anyone here will ever experience

are the people who don't want to do it.

No, are the people who are looking for any reason to to give congress one more chance to be silent and and you shouldn't have to feel the way i do you shouldn't wait wait nobody's saying we shouldn't do anything right what we're saying is let's do the right thing yeah something that will actually work do the right thing i'm so tired of hearing we got to do something do the right thing yeah yeah and you notice what and this happened over and over and over again as i was listening to the news over the past 24 hours they didn't say anything about gun control there

it's always this nebulous call to action about something because they know the American people don't want this to happen to law-abiding citizens, and that's who it would affect, obviously.

There's 300 million guns in this country.

If you want a gun to go shoot up a place, you're too late.

And you're too late to restrict them.

It's very easy to get them.

Unless you're going to now come door-to-door and take them away from people.

And that's not.

Is that what you're proposing?

Yeah.

You don't want to try that.

That won't work out well.

Can we listen to Don Lemon from last night?

Oh, check it out.

We like Don Lemon.

Don, you know, has had Glenn on the show many times.

And I would say that this is just a very, this is very typical of the coverage last night.

This exasperated, how can this be happening again

emotional plea to the audience to adopt

gun control

his point of view, right?

And so again,

we didn't hear in that last clip him say, well, what we want are X, Y, or Z when it comes to gun control.

It's just they just keep saying we need action.

And the only action they'll accept, obviously, is gun control.

Here's Don Lemon talking about playing the odds in our society.

There's another fact that we need to face.

Every single one of us is just playing the odds at this point.

The odds that in a country of 325 million souls, that we won't be the ones who get hit by the next bullets that start flying.

Stop for a second here.

Of course we are.

I mean, of course we are we're also playing the odds that when we commute to work we won't we're not the ones in the accident we're the people we we're hope we playing the odds that our smoke detector doesn't go out the same time a fire starts we're all playing the odds every single day that is exactly what we're all doing and you know what that should be not discomforting comforting because the odds of you getting involved in one of these situations are so impossibly low that you can actually find legitimate comfort if you understand probability that this is never going to happen to you most likely.

And that doesn't give comfort to the person who's just been involved in something like this.

But like think about it, think about it this way.

Worst mass shooting in our history, Las Vegas.

Worst mass shooting, I think it was 58 people killed in the Las Vegas shooting.

You could have been anywhere else in America other than Las Vegas, obviously.

But if you were in Las Vegas, you could have been anywhere else but at that concert.

You could have been in the building where the bullets were coming from and had no risk of being caught in this shooting with the exception of the security guard.

Now, think about this.

You went to Vegas and you went to that concert.

Of the people who were at the concert, 99.8% of them survived.

Now, I am not saying that that is a justification to be like, oh, we should never care about mass murderers again.

But I wish we could get to a place where people understood that, you know, the odds are actually really comforting in this case.

If you're going to talk odds,

the odds are great.

Yeah, they're good.

You're probably never going to have to deal with.

Thank God, you're probably never going to have to deal with this.

And remember how

commonly this point was made when it came to terrorism.

When back in the day, when we were saying, hey, we got to take Islamic extremism seriously, and they'd say, there's a better chance of you being killed bribing your car to work than being killed by a terrorist.

An argument to never take this seriously.

They constantly were berating us with those things.

And in reality, it is a comforting truth that most likely you will end your life for something a lot more boring than a terrorist attack.

Thank God that most people will die of something that's a lot less interesting.

That is something, though, in our society.

And you know what it is?

It's a function of a free society.

It is at some level the price we pay that some maniac that we don't know and has never seen us before can do something to harm us.

That is part of our construction of our society.

You know, maybe you don't need to deal with that in North Korea.

Maybe only Kim Jong-un makes those decisions in North Korea, and you don't have to deal with it.

I don't know.

I feel like the trade-off is okay.

Now, that does not mean that we don't do every single thing that we can to stop these terrible incidents from terrorist attacks to things like this mass shooting, which I would also clarify,

classify possibly as a terrorist attack, depending on his motivation.

Still, though,

it is part of it.

And we all have to deal with it.

We deal with it every single day.

Are we going to be the one example when we go into a basic surgery where the doctor screws up?

Are we playing the odds there?

Yeah, we're playing the odds there.

We're playing the odds every single day.

You drive down the street.

There are two yellow lines that separate you from a car careening at you at 55 miles an hour, depending on the road.

We all trust and play the odds that that person driving at you isn't the one idiot who decides they're going to smash the car into you head on for no reason.

Every day we do this and we trust people.

It's something that you should probably realize with life and it's why we make the point all the time when it comes to faith and your morals and the way you live your life.

Get it in order because you don't know when that last day is coming.

You are playing the odds every single day.

So that part just drives me freaking crazy because people act as if that's, I mean, I think John Mayer made the same point, and Don should probably consider if he's making the same points as John Mayer that maybe they're not the best points.

But we go on with a more Don Lemon.

Don't be the one that gets that phone call about someone you love who did.

Your son, your daughter, your brother, your sister, your spouse, or your parent, even a friend, anyone you know.

The phone call that changes your life.

But with every deadly shooting in this country, the odds get worse and worse and worse.

Are you really willing to keep playing those odds?

Your life is too precious for that.

The lives of our loved ones are too precious.

The lives of the people in our cities and towns are too precious.

Have we forgotten that life is a gift?

It's a disgrace that this is still happening after Sandy Hook.

Columbine, Virginia Tech, Emmanuel A.M.E.

Church, Paul's nightclub shooting, Las Vegas, the list goes on and on and on.

This is who we are right now.

But is this really who we want to be, a country where anybody at any time could be shot to death?

And then when a bunch of people are killed and lives are shattered we are sad and maybe angry and then we forget and we move on until the next time with the tragedy remaining in the headlines for even a shorter time than it did

before

so just forget politics here this is about lives the lives of all Americans we need to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people everyone agrees with that

People who oppose gun control will say today is not the day to talk about it.

And you know what?

They are absolutely right.

Because the day to talk about it was weeks, months, years, or decades ago.

And yes, of course, we also need to make mental health a priority in this country.

But guess what?

We can do both.

We can do both of those things

at the same time.

If we don't, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

This is America, people.

Don't forget that.

There you go.

So John Lemon.

I'm dumber for having heard that.

I'm just dumber for having heard that.

Look, I think he's sincere.

But it's just

a stupid rant that makes no sense.

And again, there's no evidence that any gun law would stop him.

He violated several gun laws for the way he used his gun.

It's just irritating.

By the way, we should talk about President Trump.

He's supposed to make a statement.

It's interesting that right before the statement has come out, it appears that Steve Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary, has come out in favor of gun control,

additional gun control measures.

That's obviously a major force inside the administration.

So we don't know what Trump is going to say here.

We just,

you know, these are moments where you can be nervous at times with these things.

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If we do get the Trump thing happening, we will take it here on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu filling in.

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President Trump is now addressing the nation on the school shooting.

Let's listen.

And we hurt for the entire community of Parkland, Florida, that is now in shock and pain and searching for answers.

To law enforcement, first responders, and teachers who responded so bravely in the face of danger,

we thank you for your courage.

Soon after the shooter, I spoke with Governor Scott to convey our deepest sympathies to the people

of Florida and our determination to assist in any way that we can.

I also spoke with Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi

and Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel.

I'm making plans to visit Parkland, to meet with families and local officials, and to continue coordinating the federal response.

In these moments of heartache and darkness,

we hold on to God's word in Scripture.

I have heard your prayer and seen your tears.

I will heal you.

We trust in that promise and we hold fast to our fellow Americans in their time of sorrow.

I want to speak now directly to America's children, especially those who feel lost, alone, confused, or even scared.

I want you to know that you are never alone alone and you never will be.

You have people who care about you, who love you, and who will do anything at all to protect you.

If you need help, turn to a teacher, a family member, a local police officer, or a faith leader.

Answer hate with love.

Answer cruelty with kindness.

We must also work together to to create a culture in our country that embraces the dignity of life, that creates deep and meaningful human connections, and that turns classmates and colleagues into friends and neighbors.

Our administration is working closely with local authorities to investigate the shooting and learn everything we can.

We are committed to working with state and local leaders to help secure our our schools and tackle the difficult issue of mental health.

Later this month, I will be meeting with the nation's governors and attorney generals, where making our schools and our children safer will be our top priority.

It is not enough to simply take actions that make us feel like we are making a difference.

We must actually

make that difference.

In times of tragedy, the bonds that sustain us are those of family, faith, community, and country.

These bonds are stronger than the forces of hatred and evil, and these bonds grow even stronger in the hours of our greatest need.

And so always.

But especially today,

let us hold our loved ones close.

Let us pray for healing and for peace.

President Trump on the tragedy in Florida

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Rick Scott has made the statement, we want to make sure this never happens again.

Here's the problem.

You can't make sure it never happens again, no matter what you do.

No matter what you do.

Right.

They took steps.

We can't safety wrap our society.

I'd love to.

I wish we could, but you can't.

Yeah, you got to take the steps you can, obviously.

But you cannot guarantee it's not going to happen again, no matter what you do.

You can take every single gum from every single person, and you can't guarantee it's never going to happen again.

Well, I mean, there's going to be sticks and rocks and knives,

and they'll also find guns and get them illegally.

I mean, the worst mass shooting in history was not in America, it was in Norway.

Norway.

I mean, you know, it's and it wasn't.

What's the deal?

Guns are banned there.

Yeah, like you can't.

It's not going to happen.

Yeah.

What?

Yeah, stunningly.

Yeah.

That still happened.

So, I mean, that's the worst mass shooting.

I should say it's the worst mass shooting by some crazy person in the context we're talking about.

All of the really bad mass shootings came from governments.

Just so you're aware, hundreds of millions of people have been killed in that way.

We don't think about those.

But those aren't mass shootings.

Let's not talk about those.

There was a one of the students at Parkland High School was asked about gun control on MSNBC.

Here's how he responded.

I had two classes with him back sophomore year.

I never really associated with him or talked to him until one day I got paired to do a project with him.

And he just started talking to me.

He was telling me about how they got expelled from two different private schools.

He was held back twice.

He had aspirations to join the military and and he enjoyed hunting.

So, what was your reaction when you heard that it was him?

I wasn't surprised, but it was kind of unfortunate to hear.

How, if you were a lawmaker, an adult in a decision-making position, how would you stop, do you think, the kind of thing that happened today?

A kid who'd been thrown out comes back with a weapon and takes out whatever grievance he's been walking around with in his head.

Gun-wise, I don't think there's any way to prevent it.

You outlaw guns, just creates higher demand for it.

Uh-oh.

I think it has to do with mental health, though.

Not what he was looking for at three different times in three different schools.

I think he should be helped out.

Wow.

Yeah.

That was a surprise.

Yeah.

To NBC News right there.

Wait, what?

You guys didn't tell me he was going to say that.

What?

He didn't go along with our gun control thought.

I thought that's who who we were talking to.

Jeez.

Was there anything

that surprised you, Jeffy, watching this coverage?

Surprised?

I don't know about surprise.

I mean, he had all the markers.

You know, everybody that talked just like this student who knew him or had crossed his path knew that

he was crazy-eyed.

You know, he was an issue.

And they tried to take some steps to...

In fact, they banned him from the campus when he was carrying a backpack.

I mean, it was just

no backpacks at the school.

They banned him from campus.

He was kicked out of school.

Every student said, you know, they threw up the markers.

Mad, crazy people still act, right?

I heard some of the people who were in the city.

So apparently he came back with guns instead of a backpack.

Then what do you do?

Right.

Too bad there's not a, I don't know, an armed security guard on campus.

Well, I believe they have security guards.

I think they did actually.

And they actually have

police officers who show up.

And I don't think they're there all day, but the police officers from Parkland

come to the school more than once a day.

Like they come in the morning, a couple of police officers with them, then they make frequent rounds and come in the afternoon.

So while they're not there all the entire day, they are present.

Let's be honest about it.

As someone who thinks that that's an interesting thing to talk about as far as having advanced security, I know I wanted to my kids' school,

but it's not going to stop everyone else either.

I mean, it probably means that kid goes after the security guard.

Hopefully, that delays him enough for more kids to escape.

Hopefully, the security guard sees him coming and is able to win the battle.

But it doesn't guarantee there's no more action.

The students did have some

little bit of training on what to do if there was a problem.

I mean, I heard an interview with one girl that said we'd gone through this before and had some kind of training about shooting if there was a shooting.

Maybe save some lives.

Absolutely.

I mean, when you think how horrific it is that right now we have 17 that have died, right?

Possible more that are in critical condition, five or six more.

When you think how horrible that is, I mean, it's a miracle that it's not more.

The way he went into the school with the fires total and the smokes.

I mean, it's just a miracle that more aren't.

I heard one interview with a kid who was in one of the rooms, and he said they heard the first gunshot and didn't know what it was, thought maybe it was fireworks.

You always hear the same thing, like, I thought it was fireworks or whatever.

And then

they heard the fire drill thing go off and they came out.

So they had actually heard the, and we don't, we don't know yet if he pulled it.

This particular class.

Yeah.

Someone told her because people walked out and into the hallways and then they were sort of sitting ducks at that point.

Right.

The one girl.

Some of them ran to the shooting, not knowing which way it was coming from.

They were trying to escape and ran the wrong way.

And I guess people turned them around, luckily.

Well, the one girl that was interviewed talked about how her teacher got shot by actually saving them.

You know, they had heard the fire alarm, went out.

It was the second one of the day.

Yeah.

And then it shut off.

And they were like, they stopped.

They were on the stairwell and they stopped.

And then they heard gunfire.

And the teacher was like, Back to the room now.

Yeah.

And they went into the, they all huddled into the room.

And the teacher was trying to, attempting to close and lock the door when he got shot.

Yeah.

It seems like there was a couple of teachers who were really heroic, including one of the football coaches.

And right.

And so the students said that then they were huddled in the room, you know, just scared out of their minds, and they heard Cruz go by.

And, I mean, there's an example of miracle.

I mean, that's

they literally were sitting targets.

Yeah.

And look, you know, it's just, you hope that you're not in this situation and you do everything that you can to prevent it.

Obviously, there's over 100,000 schools in the country.

I mean, I don't know how you're going to, you know, I don't know how you're going to do it.

I mean, we talked about the list of 18 school shootings that have happened.

Legitimately, there's been two this year, not 18.

I mean, two, as you would think of as a mass shooting event.

And one, three people died here.

This one, obviously, 17 people died.

But, I mean, with 100,000 schools, it's going to be, there's, we all know there's no way to prevent these things.

There's no way.

We even saw this.

I mean, we've seen mass stabbing attacks in other countries that don't have guns.

We've seen massive explosions

go through Europe and all the Islamic extremism that has happened there and those attacks.

Just because they're terrorism doesn't mean that those attacks don't count.

Everyone's like, oh, well, this never happens in other countries.

I don't know.

Think about going to a concert in Europe and tell me if those things don't happen.

Think about going to a street fair in Europe and tell me those things don't happen.

Just because they're using a car or sometimes they are guns, they do happen.

I mean, and you can't deny it.

Here's how you stop all school shootings.

Homeschool.

Everybody homeschool.

I got to tell you.

Everybody homeschools.

I got to tell you what.

Between the time I left here yesterday and got home, the shooting was in progress.

And I was never so happy as to have my children watching the coverage at the house.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you.

It's, it's, you know, it's, it's hard.

I, I think you still, again, look at this and you say the odds of the situation are like your kids are probably relatively safe at school.

It's probably more safe at school than they are at the local, you know, Walmart or driving, certainly driving down the highway.

Right.

But I mean, I understand this.

Another interesting part of this, I thought, was

that the shooter, what happens at the end of these shootings?

Number one, they shoot themselves in the head.

Yeah, they go.

Number two, the police shoot them in the head.

Those are the two options in these shootings.

So this guy's in custody, which is very strange.

Sure is.

And the reason why it seems like he's in custody is he attempted the quick change escape.

Yes, he did.

Which I don't know if I've ever actually seen it.

If you don't know Quick Change, it was a movie with Bill Murray and Gina Davis, right?

Isn't she in it?

Gina Davis, yeah.

It was Gina Davis from back in the late 80s, early 90s?

Long time ago.

And A, I freaking love that movie.

If you've never seen it, it's an all-time classic.

I think you love that movie because you were too young to know better.

I've watched it recently.

It is

a plain classic for me.

Do you have those movies that are plain classic?

It stands up.

I kind of download it and keep it on every device in case I'm bored and I can just watch 20 minutes of a movie.

It stands up.

I love that.

Because you realize you just have to get past the fact that there's no technology.

Yes.

Now, look,

it's very strange because

you'd think today it would be a lot harder to pull this one off.

But what the guy in Quick Change, Bill Murray dresses up as a clown.

And he dresses up as a clown and he goes in and robs a bank.

And of course, obviously he gets surrounded.

He's there in the middle of New York City.

And his way of getting out is he changes from the,

spoiler alert,

he changes from, this happens in the first 15 minutes of the movie, so it's probably okay.

And it was 1989.

But he changes his clown costume and he puts on normal person clothes.

And when he keeps talking to the hostage negotiator, he says, you know what?

I'm going to release three hostages.

And when he leaves, he leaves as one of the hostages.

So he leaves and then comes out.

Smart.

It's a brilliant brand.

So apparently what happened here, either he was watching Quick Change or came up with the idea on on the fly.

Instead of killing himself or being shot by police, he put down, I guess put down his guns or whatever,

walked out as part of the evacuating student body.

So he walked out as one of the students and apparently took them an hour to capture him.

Wow.

And almost seemingly worked.

I will say that some of the footage I saw of the SWAT teams and the police officers coming into the school and clearing the school, those gentlemen earned their pay yesterday.

They came in and I mean, talk about they didn't know where the student was.

They didn't know who was firing.

They didn't know where the shots were coming from.

You watched them go into the classrooms and have all the kids, you know, raise their hands and put down their devices and shut their phones off and get them out of the school and clear the school.

I mean, that's a tough job.

I was really.

I mean, think about it.

Just think about the moments after a shooting like this.

You have this mass shooting.

People are, I mean, God.

The horrific imagery you're witnessing as you're walking through these hallways.

But you don't know if there's another shooter in a closet.

You don't know if someone's going to pop out from behind a door.

Especially since, in almost every case, we're told at the beginning, they think there's another shooter.

Every time.

You don't know if he planted a bomb somewhere inside the school.

When you open up a door, something's going to go off.

You have no idea what you're about to face.

And these guys do this every time.

And, you know, the fact that they think about what we just went through in the last year, where police officers were vilified by so many

NFL players taking a knee on the field to show how bad these people are.

And it takes moments like this for you to realize, hey, reminder here, 99% of these guys

are

the best among us.

The fact that they can do the job that they do

is incredible.

No doubt about it.

They don't deserve the treatment they get.

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So, so far, 17 people killed yesterday in this shooting of

another troubled kid, a 19-year-old who obviously had serious mental issues.

The school had kicked him out of school.

They'd taken some precautions by keeping him off campus with, I guess if he showed up with a backpack, he was not allowed to be there.

Shouldn't have been there really for any reason if you got kicked out of school, right?

Yeah.

You will be hearing this 18 school shootings stat quite a bit.

You'll see it at the bottom of TV screens on cable news, 18 school shootings.

Just this year.

Should we go one more run through this?

If you happened to miss this earlier, and I've posted it on Twitter at World of Stew, if you want to go through it and share it,

here are the actual number of school shootings.

We know the one yesterday, that's one.

There was another one that I would say fits the same profile of what you would think of as a school shooting, a mass school shooting.

January 23rd, Benton, Kentucky.

Two people were killed.

Another 15 shot at Marshall County High School.

Here are the rest of the 16.

A fight broke out at a Pennsylvania high school.

One 32-year-old man was shot and later died.

A football player was shot and killed.

Those are the

places where people were killed in an aggressive manner.

Twice, people shot themselves on school grounds.

One incident featured a man shooting himself in a former high school parking lot.

Okay, that's a suicide.

That's a different thing.

A teen killed himself in an Arizona elementary school bathroom.

Another suicide.

Then you have

January 4th, gunshot fired at a school in Seattle through an office window.

No one was hurt.

Shots fired shattering a California State University classroom window.

No one was hurt.

In Texas, a bullet was accidentally fired through a classroom wall at Grayson College Criminal Justice Center.

No one was hurt.

January 15th, a bullet traveled through a residential hall dorm room.

No one was hurt.

On January 25th, a high school student fired a gun on campus.

No one was hurt.

On January 26th, shots were fired from a car parking lot.

No one was hurt.

On February 5th in Minnesota, a third grader pulled the trigger on a cop's gun.

No one was hurt.

On February 8th in New York, a shot was fired inside a metropolitan high school.

No one was hurt.

There are four more that resulted in an injury.

But again, would you hear, see, there's a teenage girl wounded in shots from a semi-automatic handgun.

A 14-year-old boy was injured in a shooting.

Five children were injured in an accidental shooting.

A teenager was shot and injured outside of of a high school.

So I would say one other, one of the 18 shootings there have been two, there's two that have would fit this profile.

Though one of them, two people were killed, which is obviously terrible, but not

the scale of these incidents.

I think they're trying to communicate to you, hey, these things happen all the time.

They happen so often that you don't even notice them.

But is anyone against a cop having a gun inside of a school?

If a third grader pulls the trigger accidentally and no one was hurt, is that a national incident?

No.

No, I don't think so.

And they're inflating these numbers intentionally to make you believe that this is such a widespread problem.

And it is a horrible, horrible problem.

Though, again,

violence rate from guns is down by about half.

And so, and that's including these school shootings that have happened and other mass shootings that have happened around the country.

So it's not a problem with gun violence.

It's a problem with these particular incidents.

And it would be great to figure out a way to try to

curtail them, but it is not limiting

gun use for citizens

that obey the law.

It's not going to work.

And that's a big problem.

It's also not legal in the Constitution.

That's all they're trying to do, though.

That's all they're trying to care about is enact gun control.

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