1/3/18 - WAR!

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Speaker 1 President of the United States, causing controversy again with his tweeting habits.

Speaker 1 If he just didn't tweet,

Speaker 1 I, right now, what would you have to complain about with Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 I don't think there'd be anything. Would there be news?

Speaker 1 There wouldn't. Yeah, there would not be a news cycle.
It would stop. He sets the tone with that, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
What he tweets is generally going to be

Speaker 1 that day's or the next day's headlines all over America and maybe the world. He tweeted exactly

Speaker 1 what we said on the air yesterday morning on this broadcast. 100%.

Speaker 1 When Kim Jong-un tweeted about, oh, I've got the button on my desk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. You understand that the United States has a button,

Speaker 1 that Donald Trump's got a button, and it will fire off a lot more firepower than you're capable of. It'll destroy your stupid little country a thousand times over.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, it's essentially exactly what he tweeted. I don't know if he was listening at the time and thought, yeah, that's a good point.
I've got a point.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tweet that out. I believe it.
The difference is, I'm a talk show host. He's president of the United States.
And so, you know,

Speaker 1 there are things talk show hosts say that maybe the president shouldn't.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's possible. The other thing is.
If you tweet something,

Speaker 1 does it make it so?

Speaker 1 No, not necessarily. But the

Speaker 1 news cycle takes it that way. It sure does.

Speaker 1 The mainstream media takes it that way.

Speaker 1 And you know Darnwell. He was in Florida.
He was listening to, you know, we're on David Brown. The Glenbeck program.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 No clue.

Speaker 1 That's a good point, Pat. I'm going to tweet that out right now.
And his little thumb started in motion.

Speaker 1 And then waited a few.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he waited, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what time did that tweet happen? 13 hours ago. So he waited 10 hours.

Speaker 1 I mean, he might have listened to the podcast. It's possible, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or a rebroadcast somewhere.
Or maybe we weren't live in the city

Speaker 1 in the city in which he lived.

Speaker 1 He was residing in Florida. That's also possible.
Very possible.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm torn on the tweet itself. I'm torn on whether or not that's because he's taken kind of a hard line on his, more than kind of, he's taken a very hard line

Speaker 1 on his rhetoric with North Korea. And seemingly something's working because

Speaker 1 Kim Jong-un has definitely softened his rhetoric and his stance, especially towards South Korea. I mean, now they're reopening that hotline between

Speaker 1 North and South. Yeah.
They're reestablishing that today. And they tested it earlier, so it works.
The phone line is open and it works, Pat.

Speaker 1 And that was something that was discontinued a while ago, and it didn't look like there was any possibility of getting that back, and now it is.

Speaker 1 He also made overtures to

Speaker 1 the South Korean Winter Games, the Olympics that are coming up. What? They start next month, I think, in February.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 essentially guaranteed their safety. He said, you know,

Speaker 1 we wish them peace and believe they'll go off without a hitch. And everybody's been concerned about whether or not he would do some sort of strike and imperil the athletes of the world.

Speaker 1 And he seemed to kind of reassure people that that's not in the cards.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 It may be a good thing that Trump has taken such a hard line with this guy.

Speaker 1 That's what these dictators understand.

Speaker 1 We've said it for many years about a lot of the dictators around the world that they, you know, us coming in being nice, nice only makes us look weak in their eyes. So

Speaker 1 I hope that that is true. I do too.
I do too. But for

Speaker 1 the part of the media, they go out of their mind when Trump does this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 Colby Hall tweeted out, in hindsight, we should have all predicted the big and powerful button position from this administration. Well, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 And then Kumal Nanjiani

Speaker 1 tweets out, is it right next to the Diet Coke button? Please be careful.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's just stupid.

Speaker 1 That's just ridiculous. I mean, that's social media right there.
From Bishop Talbert Swan, Trump is a reprehensible failure as a POTUS. This fool just written nuclear war over Twitter.

Speaker 1 His cabinet members should invoke the 25th Amendment. Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's calm down. Let's calm down a little bit.
From Hunter Schwartz. Teddy Roosevelt speaks softly and carry a big stick.
Donald Trump, tweet loudly and boast about the size of your nuclear button.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And that's what he's doing. So you don't have to tell him that.
And by the way,

Speaker 1 it's been pretty clear. It's worked so far.
It honestly, it's hard to argue

Speaker 1 that it hasn't worked. I know.

Speaker 1 Because the situation with North Korea is, to me, a lot better. I mean, it felt like we were on the brink for a while.

Speaker 1 But now

Speaker 1 it doesn't feel that way at all. And with, you know, Donald, first of all, President Trump is not one we've learned to be able to take

Speaker 1 a perceived slam and not say anything back. So when Kim Jong-un,

Speaker 1 you know, said, hey, if you attack us first,

Speaker 1 we've got a nuke ready to go to, and I've got the button right on my desk. That was his way of saying we're not going to attack first.
But

Speaker 1 he was able to save face for his people and say that, hey, we're big and bad too, and we can fight, we'll fight back. Nobody's going to attack us.
Don't you worry about it.

Speaker 1 But it was also said, hey, we're not going to attack, right? Right. And so, but to Trump, that's a perceived, you know, my button is on my desk and we can still attack the United States.

Speaker 1 He takes that as, well, so what?

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 that's right, you're not going to attack us. Yes.
I mean, that's just Donald Trump. Yeah, it is.
It is. And it's just, you know, it's his style.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 everybody knew it when they voted for him. Absolutely.
Everybody knew it. 100%.
So he's actually doing what people put him in office to do. Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 It just, it's a little reminiscent. I kept thinking all day after the tweet of the, do you remember the Kennel Ration commercial? My dog's bigger than your dog?

Speaker 1 My dog's bigger than yours. My dog's bigger than your thank you.
My dog's bigger than your dog.

Speaker 1 My dog's better than yours.

Speaker 1 My dog's shiny paws. He gets kennel ration.
My dog's better than yours.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 1 It's just my button's bigger than your button. Not because it eats kennel ration, but yeah, because we're the United States of America and you're not.
So

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's just, it's fascinating because this was one of the things that we weren't excited about with the possibility of Trump.
And yet, it's one of the things that is sort of working.

Speaker 1 Yes, it is. Foreign policy-wise, it seems.
Yeah, for now. I mean, absolutely.
There are steps that could be taken in the future that will help in that. I'm sure that there are.

Speaker 1 And that's what we have a State Department for, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 That's what Tillerson is there for. So, you know,

Speaker 1 let Rex do his job. But as far as

Speaker 1 the talk of Trump hampering that, I don't think so. I think

Speaker 1 this just helps us be able to walk in and say, you know, we've got a big stick to it, pal. Yeah.
Come on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's hard to believe that he didn't realize that or he, because based on the things that he says and does, it seems he doesn't understand that. It does.

Speaker 1 And so Trump just reminds him. Yeah, it does.
And I think that comes with him being

Speaker 1 while he's

Speaker 1 the leader of this country. He's pretty sheltered and he's pretty, you know,

Speaker 1 being that dictator. Not a lot of people tell him no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got to put on a show for his people. Yes.
Yes, he does.

Speaker 1 It's difficult to live up to deity, and that's what they've presented themselves as. You are telling me, Pat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also like, you know, I mean, there's been, he has done some great foreign policy maneuvers. Obviously, acknowledging Jerusalem as the capital of Israel was one.
This

Speaker 1 denial of $285 million to the UN is another. That's a good start.
Threatening to cut off aid to the

Speaker 1 Palestinians, I think, is brilliant. Absolutely.
At about time,

Speaker 1 he acknowledged his push to broker peace in the Middle East.

Speaker 1 It stalled a little bit, maybe, because yesterday he appeared to threaten to cut off U.S. aid money to the Palestinian Authority, asking why the U.S.

Speaker 1 should make, quote, any of these massive future payments, unquote. And the Pakistan, too, right? When the Palestinians are no longer willing to talk peace.
Yeah, and Pakistan. And Pakistan as well.

Speaker 1 And Pakistan, because they're harboring terrorists. And we've known that the whole time.
Sure have.

Speaker 1 And we continue to just funnel hundreds of millions, billions of dollars to Pakistan and to the Palestinians.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I think this is the right way to go. In a pair of tweets, he said the U.S.
pays the Palestinians hundreds of millions of dollars a year, and they get no appreciation or respect. It's exactly right.

Speaker 1 And I think there's a lot of Americans who have been frustrated about that for a long time.

Speaker 1 Again, another of the things that got Trump, Donald Trump elected president in the first place.

Speaker 1 So don't be mad that he's doing what you wanted, what you were, at least that's why he got elected, what the people who elected him wanted him to do. And that's exactly what he's doing.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's an argument to be made that

Speaker 1 pulling the plug on some of that cash to those terrorist

Speaker 1 entities is going to bring more terrorism.

Speaker 1 But I would argue against that, I think. It certainly hasn't stopped it anyway.
Correct. It hasn't said, hey, be nice.
So without the money, go find the money somewhere else. Right.
Good luck.

Speaker 1 And, you know, foreign policy by tweet is probably not the way to go either. Wow.

Speaker 1 But again, oh, we knew this was coming. Yeah.
We knew this was coming. It certainly is in today's world.
Yeah.

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Triple 8727.

Speaker 1 Beck, we were speaking about the decision

Speaker 1 to potentially withhold funds from the Palestinians

Speaker 1 because as President Trump said yesterday,

Speaker 1 they're not interested in peace anyway. Why will we keep funneling hundreds of millions of dollars to them every year? It doesn't do any good.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, in Jerusalem, they just passed a new law. The Knesset has just made it nearly impossible to ever allow a divided Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 I don't blame him one bit. The article that

Speaker 1 I read on this was incredibly spun very, very negative towards Israel, as if this ends all hope of peace. Well,

Speaker 1 if somebody was demanding, let's say Canada was demanding that we divide Washington, D.C.

Speaker 1 in half, and they get part of Washington, D.C., and we keep the other part.

Speaker 1 Would we treat that kindly? Would we agree to that?

Speaker 1 Okay, that's what it's going to take for peace. Oh,

Speaker 1 okay. If ISIS said, look,

Speaker 1 we want half of Washington, D.C., and you can keep the other half, and then

Speaker 1 we'll stop bombing your malls, and we'll stop doing these suicide attacks. We tell them to go pound sand.
That would never work. Nobody would ever agree to such a thing.
Why do we expect it of Israel?

Speaker 1 Lawmakers approved a bill in the early hours of yesterday that required a special two-thirds majority vote in the Knesset to relinquish any part of Jerusalem to the Palestinians under any future peace accord.

Speaker 1 So they've essentially, because that's no, two-thirds of the Knesset is never going to agree to that.

Speaker 1 Which they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 It's the capital of Israel. It always has been.
It's never been Palestinian territory.

Speaker 1 Palestinian is a made-up name.

Speaker 1 It's what the British called the area, Palestine.

Speaker 1 It's what the Romans called the area. But there's no actual Palestine people.

Speaker 1 Are you sure? I'm sure. I'm positive.
There never has been, and there just isn't. It's a made-up thing.
And

Speaker 1 we're supposed to bow down to it. And

Speaker 1 if they would agree to at least recognize Israel as a state, a sovereign nation, but you've got

Speaker 1 the ruling class in the Palestinian territory, in the Gaza Strip, not even willing to do that. So, how do you even start on that situation?

Speaker 1 It's an impossible situation. Israel just has to look out for themselves.
888-727-BEC. Bill in West Virginia, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
Hi. Hi, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 Hey, I have this problem.

Speaker 2 When I hear these commercials on the radio and TV and that, where they're threatening the American young guy, that he has to comply with the selective service law or he'll lose any sort of rights to a school loan or driver's driver's license.

Speaker 2 They're saying, well, you're breaking the law.

Speaker 3 Why don't we have commercials on the radio and TV telling these illegals that they're breaking the law, that they can't get this? You will be sent out of the country in that.

Speaker 3 They threaten the American people. The same with the tax law.
They threaten the American people. We can take away your house and the rest of this stuff.

Speaker 2 But they don't say anything to these illegals.

Speaker 1 No, that would be insensitive, Bill.

Speaker 1 Right. That would be insensitive.
Right. Now, for some reason, and we can break up families, too.
We can put

Speaker 1 Americans in jail, but you can't separate illegal aliens' families. You can't put them in jail.
You can't deport them. You can't let them decide, are you going to take your family with you or not?

Speaker 1 You can't do any of that.

Speaker 1 We've gotten to such a ridiculous point that you're right. It's fine to threaten American citizens, but not those here illegally.
Strange situation. It sure is.
Thanks for the call. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Julie in Texas, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Hi.

Speaker 5 Good morning. You guys were talking earlier about Donald Trump and his tweets.
I really and truly think that what he's doing

Speaker 5 is bypassing the media modern day

Speaker 5 similarly to Reagan. They just bypass the media and go straight to the people.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's exactly what he's doing.

Speaker 1 And it seems to be pretty effective. Drives the media out of their mind.
Sure does.

Speaker 1 But it's a pretty effective technique. Thanks, Julian.
And with the fact that the media hates him so intensely,

Speaker 1 you know, I mean, there's something to be said for doing it.

Speaker 1 Even though a lot of days

Speaker 1 I wish he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 Yes, there is. And I mean, look, he sets the tone and he sets the agenda every day.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's who's who's who's wagging the tail? I don't know. Yeah, I know.
Jim in Washington, welcome.

Speaker 8 Oh, hi, Glenn. How are you this morning, big fan?

Speaker 1 Doing good, but it's not Glenn. He's off this week, but that's all right.

Speaker 8 Oh, Glenn's not in.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's my apology. Who am I speaking with?

Speaker 9 This is Pat.

Speaker 1 Pat Gray. Oh, as well as Jeffy.

Speaker 9 Oh.

Speaker 1 Hi, Jeff. Go ahead.
Hello, I'm not Glenn either. It's okay.

Speaker 8 Oh, I'm sorry, guys. You seem bummed out about it.

Speaker 1 No, we're fine with it, actually, but I just wanted to break it to you gently.

Speaker 8 Oh, no problem.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I was just impressed.

Speaker 8 I wanted to say how impressed I was with how Donald Trump, the hardline stance that he's taken on North Korea. a lot of these Democrats want to take a soft stance on it.

Speaker 8 Do you know Adam Friedland out of New York?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 8 Oh, he wants to take a soft stance on it. Meanwhile, he's a bug.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, he's a bug?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Adam Friedman is a bug?

Speaker 1 Sorry, what'd you say? Adam Friedman is a bug?

Speaker 8 No, Adam Friedland is a bug.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I have no idea what you're talking about, but I appreciate the call. Thanks, Jim.

Speaker 1 What? What?

Speaker 1 I missed something. Have I missed something?

Speaker 1 I guess you did, Pat. I guess you did.
And you missed it as well?

Speaker 1 Right by me, Pat.

Speaker 1 Apparently, Adam Friedland is not a bug, but he is a bug. Okay.

Speaker 1 Morgan in Utah. Welcome to the Glenbeck program.
Hi.

Speaker 10 Thanks for taking my call, Pat. Hi, Pat.

Speaker 12 Well, I was just listening to you guys talking about Kim Jong-un Jong

Speaker 12 talking about how he's got a button on his desk and how

Speaker 13 he won't attack first.

Speaker 12 But I just was thinking to myself, you know, Kim, if you really understood the history of the United States and how much we have gone to war, we have never lost.

Speaker 13 And if you think you've got the stones to come at us with that button, you better be prepared because not only are we back-to-back World War champs, but we are also

Speaker 12 winners of the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and Persian Gulf. And we're still continuing on with what's going on in the Middle East.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it. Thanks, Morgan.

Speaker 1 It says it a little more eloquently than he did, but

Speaker 1 yeah, I think that's generally the point.

Speaker 1 Glenn, back

Speaker 1 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 1 During the break there, we were just kind of assessing our last colors.

Speaker 1 Statement that we are undefeated in war in the United States of America. Now, there are those who would maybe dispute that.
Vietnam, for instance, maybe even Korea. But I was just kind of

Speaker 1 taking stock on America at war and trying to figure out what our record actually is. And maybe you just tweet that out to Kim Jong-un.

Speaker 1 Revolutionary War, you got to figure definite win, right? War of 1812, a win.

Speaker 1 Then you've got the

Speaker 1 Mexican-American War, big win.

Speaker 1 Then you've got the Spanish-American War. I guess you could consider the war with the Native Americans a victory.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Then you've got World War I, World War II.
Korea, I would say, is definitely a win. There are those who would say that was a tie.

Speaker 1 I say it's a win because

Speaker 1 the goal there was not to take over North Korea, it was to keep them above the 38th parallel, which we did, which we did.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 you could say Vietnam was next after Korea.

Speaker 1 And many people call that a loss. I frankly don't because we didn't lose that.
We just left. That's kind of a tie.

Speaker 1 So I'll give you, that was a tie. Tie.
All right. We did what we set out to do, and that's to keep the South, the South.
When we left, now that's your thing, okay? And they lost it quickly.

Speaker 1 So they lost. We weren't there at the time.
Right.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to chalk that out. That's still a tie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, tie is the worst that you can give that. Yes.
Yes. I think so.

Speaker 1 So then after

Speaker 1 Vietnam, then you've got, I guess, the first Iraq war, which was a victory. I think you could consider the present Iraq war, since we got rid of Saddam Hussein a victory.
It seems like it is, anyway.

Speaker 1 Afghanistan, we got rid of the Taliban victory.

Speaker 1 Panama, I don't know if you can call that a war, but we kicked their ass.

Speaker 1 It was a butt kick.

Speaker 1 Operation Urgent Fury

Speaker 1 at the Island of Spice. The invasion of Grenada.
Oh, that's right. That was what, 83, 84? So I did.

Speaker 1 Four Days of Hell in 1983, Pat. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't want to bring it up completely. Okay.

Speaker 1 You know, it was a tough time. Okay, including the Island of Spice and the Panama butt-kicking we gave them.

Speaker 1 That is 13-0-1.

Speaker 1 13-0-1. 13-0-1.
How about that, Kimmy? Okay.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't hurt to remind Kim of that. No, it would not.

Speaker 1 So for my money,

Speaker 1 our caller was correct in that we've never lost.

Speaker 1 Turple 8, 7-2-7. I expect Trump to tweet that about 10 hours from now after he listens to the president.
Let's see if President Trump. He tweeted what we said yesterday.

Speaker 1 Let's see if he tweets this too.

Speaker 1 We gave you a little idea there, President Trump, and

Speaker 1 make it yours if you want. Yeah, it's all yours.

Speaker 1 Mark in North Carolina, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Hi.

Speaker 15 Mr. Beck in there this week.

Speaker 17 I know that Mr. Beck isn't there this week, which all are usually pretty much three Visa

Speaker 17 odd.

Speaker 11 You know, the bottom line on this is that Mr. Beck's position has been that he does not support any kind of military conflict with North Korea.

Speaker 17 They've got multiple warheads now.

Speaker 11 What's the solution?

Speaker 17 It seems to me that you guys are kind of as soft as the Democrats because when he has 100 warheads, what do we do? Because he's not going to stop until somebody stops him.

Speaker 17 So what is the solution if there's not a military one? Because he doesn't care if his people starve out.

Speaker 15 He doesn't care about anything except his own preservation, and he believes that proliferation of the nuclear weapons that he possesses is his way to do that.

Speaker 17 So do we hit to him or do we just continue to do this jawboning that doesn't work? Because he's plenty well fed.

Speaker 15 You look at him.

Speaker 22 He's fat as a pig.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 17 what's the

Speaker 17 solution other than the military option? I know they've got artillery on the border that's real close to Seoul.

Speaker 17 It would require a real surgical procedure to get the missiles and the artillery and to get him. But what's the solution? Because I keep hearing

Speaker 22 you and Mr.

Speaker 10 Peck talk about, oh, a military option is an option.

Speaker 15 Then what is the option?

Speaker 1 Well, I've never said it's not an option.

Speaker 1 It's not the desired option for me. I mean, I would like to avoid that.
And so far we have. We've done a pretty good job of avoiding that.
And I think Trump's hard line is helping keep him at bay.

Speaker 1 That's my personal viewpoint. But are you advocating that we do a military strike right now?

Speaker 1 Is that your position?

Speaker 23 I don't know what else the guy will understand.

Speaker 11 I mean, the thing is.

Speaker 1 So, are you talking about a preemptive strike then?

Speaker 17 Well, no, he's already threatened nuclear war against the United States, and he's also threatened nuclear war against our Asian allies and under CETO.

Speaker 17 An attack on them is an attack on us.

Speaker 1 He's already thrown missiles into the Sea of Japan.

Speaker 17 I mean, he's already a threat. Now, what are we going to do? We're going to see a mushroom cloud in San Francisco or Tokyo or in Seoul, Korea.

Speaker 18 What is it going to take?

Speaker 17 Because the guy has already said he's going to use it.

Speaker 1 So you would do a preemptive nuclear strike on North Korea?

Speaker 17 Not necessarily.

Speaker 11 If they think the cruise missiles and the killer drones, get rid of all the artillery

Speaker 17 right where the militarized zone is to keep them from destroying Seoul and, you know, how many over 30 million people.

Speaker 17 You've got to take those out.

Speaker 15 You'd have to take out the silos.

Speaker 17 They'd have to be able to identify that.

Speaker 17 But surely they would know if the silos open with the killer drones they have up that can smile on the thing 24-7.

Speaker 17 It's a much better thing. If you've got 15 to wipe out, that's a lot easier than 100.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a dangerous, it's a dangerous proposition. Any way you look at it, taking military action could really escalate into a war

Speaker 1 with China.

Speaker 1 It could escalate into world war.

Speaker 1 I mean, so whatever we do, it could have really serious ramifications. I think

Speaker 1 you got to acknowledge that, right?

Speaker 17 Well, there is no doubt about that.

Speaker 18 But what's the Chinese response?

Speaker 17 I mean, the Chinese are smiling at us, telling us that they're doing what they need to do with North Korea.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 11 But, you know, it's one thing to go across the river and attack us on a conventional military basis, but I don't think the Chinese would enjoy this any more than us.

Speaker 10 No, they would not.

Speaker 1 That's true. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 19 So I don't see them going to war on behalf of North Korea.

Speaker 19 But the problem that we have is that we've been pussyfooting around with this, with his father and now him, his grandfather, his father, and now him.

Speaker 24 And he's only gotten stronger militarily, weaker in every other aspect.

Speaker 17 But there's got to be something done to this guy, or he's really going to become a threat.

Speaker 17 And And if he can start hitting American cities because he's working on the technology, it's better now than later.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I understand your point of view. I think the point of view of most Americans is that we've got peace right now.
And is it a precarious peace? Yes.

Speaker 1 But it's still not war with North Korea and it's not war with China and it hasn't developed into a nuclear situation.

Speaker 1 So I think most people would probably advocate not taking military action at this point. And

Speaker 1 we're not normally a first-strike, preemptive strike kind of country.

Speaker 6 Well, the threat has already been there.

Speaker 17 And, you know, when Neville Chamberlain called peace in our time, they had peace at that time, but it didn't last for very long.

Speaker 17 All you've got to do is look at what the guy is doing, what he's building up to. He believes his only preservation is the ability to destroy other countries, and his technologies get better.

Speaker 15 and when he gets much better, we've got a much bigger problem.

Speaker 17 If Hitler had been stopped at Munich, it would have been a lot better than just waiting on him to do what he did.

Speaker 1 True. Appreciate it.
Thanks, Mark. It's a difficult scenario.
And I don't think I've ever said there should never be military intervention in North Korea.

Speaker 1 My point is, at this time, I don't think that's the best solution right now. I'd rather avoid it if we can.
And so far, Trump has. We've avoided

Speaker 1 an active hot war with North Korea. And amen to that.
Yeah. And plus, I don't think, you know, when you say that, you know, look, he's already a threat.

Speaker 1 Yes, but I don't think he's enough of a threat that we could sell that to the world of us striking for him. He's a blowhard.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's...

Speaker 1 He's an immature idiot. And I don't know that

Speaker 1 the belief is that he would actually act on his threat. And I know that, you know, obviously we care very little about the U.N.

Speaker 1 and some of the other countries, but we do have some allies that we do care about. And with, you know, selling it to them as heavy.
And South Korea is one of those allies. Which is right there.

Speaker 1 And if we hit them with a preemptive strike, they are going to launch against Seoul. And we've got reports of how much damage North Korea could do to Seoul with what they have already in place.

Speaker 1 And so to hit them and not knock out all of their capabilities of hurting South Korea is a big problem. A really big problem.
And then you could say, well, do we take the guy out?

Speaker 1 Do we assassinate him? You know, that's risky business, too, because who replaces him? And there's got to be a retaliation after that.

Speaker 1 Even if we're not the ones who killed Kim Jong-un, if that were to happen, they'd blame us. Oh, yeah.
I don't think it matters now. Right.
Which is actually, I mean, kind of

Speaker 1 if you're inside North Korea and thinking about taking over, now would be the time. I'm glad I'm not the one making the decision because

Speaker 1 it's an impossible decision to make.

Speaker 1 So literally, I mean, there's so many ramifications to any action. And that's why we've continued the inaction for so long.

Speaker 1 And now we've gotten to this point where anything we do could just destroy the precarious balance we have right now. I mean, taking any action will change the course of history.

Speaker 1 And even, even, again, doing nothing changes the course. I mean, it's amazing how difficult it is.
It's impossible to know what to do.

Speaker 1 It honestly is. I mean,

Speaker 1 he was challenging us to,

Speaker 1 are we saying we shouldn't do millions? I don't know. I don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 Again, I'm glad I don't make that ultimate decision. Yeah, and I mean, I'm glad that, you know, look,

Speaker 1 if you look at it like we think that Donald Trump looks at America, I'm surprised that he hasn't blown him off the map already. Right? I mean, seriously.

Speaker 1 because for Chile, he has more sense than that. I understand that.

Speaker 1 Right. Good for him.
And I want him to have more sense than that. Thank you.
That's why, that's why he gets to be president. But

Speaker 1 you can't just

Speaker 1 go in and wipe him out. Right.
You can't. Right.
I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because thinking of what's happened so far, is that a threat? Not really. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's a threat, but it isn't. He and his dad and his father before him.
I mean, the threats go back. It's like the decades.
Yeah. I mean, it's, you know,

Speaker 1 that guy down the street, if he keeps that up, I'm going to call the cops. It goes back in the house.
The other element is, I'm not even sure they have the capability he claims to have.

Speaker 1 I don't know that missiles can reach mainland America.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah.
I mean, North Korea is

Speaker 1 backward, technologically speaking. Has China provided them with what they need in order to reach the U.S.
mainland? I don't know, maybe, but I know everybody's claiming that they do, but I'm

Speaker 1 totally convinced. Seems like it would be an awful huge leap to go from where they're at

Speaker 1 overall to having an underground capability of being able to shoot a missile thousands of miles. I don't know that they can.
And maybe they can. Do you take the chance and then do a preemptive strike?

Speaker 1 I don't know. That's not us.
We don't do that. Right.
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Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 Pat Gray, Jeffy. Pat Gray on leash, coming up right after the show on Blaze Radio and television.

Speaker 1 Let's check in with Tim in North Dakota. Hey, Tim, you're on the Glenn Pack program.
Hi.

Speaker 7 Well, thank you.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you guys are talking about

Speaker 7 Vietnam with a Thai, but

Speaker 7 really,

Speaker 7 I don't believe so. We don't have a military presence like we do in South Korea.

Speaker 1 Well, you don't have to have a military presence there to have won the war.

Speaker 7 Well, yeah, but it's what's Saigon called now. It's Ho Chi Minh City.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that wasn't because that was after we left.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but I mean, yeah, we pulled out and left them. You know, I spent 19 and a half months over there.

Speaker 1 Thanks for your service.

Speaker 7 It's well, yeah, you bet. But it just, I felt bad about leaving.

Speaker 7 We had invested so much time I know I know everything in there and then to leave them yeah like that in I just feel that we lost it and it was you know

Speaker 7 I love the Vietnamese people there and it was you know yeah but anyhow I just feel that regardless what what we do with Kim Young-jung this over in North Korea now is

Speaker 7 you know it's gonna be another hassle in the American people how many more lives, you know, I've just

Speaker 7 believe we've got to protect our borders and our interests and things.

Speaker 1 But I'm kind of there too.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of there too. Thanks, Tim.
And that's why I'm so hesitant.

Speaker 1 That's one of the reasons I'm so hesitant to start saying, yeah, military intervention is appropriate here because we don't do military intervention the way we used to do it. No, we don't.

Speaker 1 We go in halfway every time.

Speaker 1 And halfway is not going to be good enough. Now, if you're absolutely committed to crushing the enemy and then getting out, well, that's a different matter.
But when was the last time we did that?

Speaker 1 I'd say World War II, probably. Yeah.
World War II.

Speaker 1 You do what you have to do to win. You don't let political correctness enter into your prosecution of a war.
And then you come home.

Speaker 1 Because it looked like we were going to do that in the first Iraq war. Well, that's what we were promised.
And then we pulled out. Shock and awe.
And then we pulled up.

Speaker 1 And that's happened every time since World War II. Triple 888-727 back.
It's Pat Gray and Jeffy for Glenn all this week.

Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 Love.

Speaker 1 Courage.

Speaker 1 Truth. Glenn back.
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Speaker 1 They've quickly replaced Matt Lauer on the Today Show. Looks like Hodokotby already started.
And there's some controversy on the Hodakoti front. Hodakotbi is making a paltry $7 million a year.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 I'm sick about it, Jeffy. I am sick about it.

Speaker 1 That's $18 million less than Matt Lauer was making.

Speaker 1 In fact, you add up the salaries of the two of the co-anchors now,

Speaker 1 it only adds up to a $14 million salary, which is $11 million less than Matt Lauer. I would walk.
Absolutely. I think they should.
And

Speaker 1 I'll do it for even less than - I'll give them a $2 million discount. I'll do it for $5 million.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you're welcome, NBC. Just give me a call later.

Speaker 1 Tweet me at Path Unleashed.

Speaker 1 I love the Hoda Kotby situation because I'm pretty unfamiliar with her.

Speaker 1 I glance at the TV as we're on the air, but I've never seen the Kathy Lee and Hoda show or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 And so I'm really not that familiar with her, except for the just, I know she has a strange name. That's about what I know about her.
I was reading an article yesterday.

Speaker 1 They called her very funny and highly popular. Yeah.
They love her and she's like, I never heard any bugs on her, but, you know, okay. I have not either.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know you and I, you know, spend a lot of of time talking television hosts. Uh-huh.
And for some strange reason, Hoda has never come up.

Speaker 1 Not once.

Speaker 1 Until today, of course. Yeah, the last couple days.
Yesterday. But

Speaker 1 she, you know, I guess they fell in love with her when she was sharing her battle with breast cancer on the show. Yeah, that's over.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, you know, so that she's covered a lot of stuff for

Speaker 1 a few big stories. And she's, you know, her struggle with adopting a child.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, okay, good. Yeah.
I mean, that's.

Speaker 1 But they're going to make a discrimination thing out of this because she's making so much less than it was. That's why she's been a bit of a drug.

Speaker 1 Matt Lauer's been a genuine television star and has been for a couple of decades. A genuine TV star.
You're going to pay him. He was your main guy at NBC, especially after Brokaw was gone.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nobody has the recognition that Matt Lauer does. And so that came with a price.
And he was able to work that. Now, is Hoda as valuable as Matt Lauer? It doesn't have anything to do with her gender.

Speaker 1 I just don't think she's the magnitude of where Lauer was. You know, look.
So you're not going to pay. If Hoda and Savannah can lay out some numbers that are serious and keep the viewers,

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 you can get some leverage and say, okay, I will

Speaker 1 pay me $18 million more a year. Yeah.
We both, or they

Speaker 1 can say, look,

Speaker 1 we know right now you can't, you know, you're not going to pay us $25 million each. So, you know, give us $12.5,

Speaker 1 uh 12.5 each and that's unfair because matt got all 25 million to himself and then they paid savannah uh 7 million on top of it plus then you've got al rocker i don't know what al's making but i wonder what al is i bet you al is i bet you al's making what 10

Speaker 1 it's got to be more than hoda and and and savannah right he's been there for a long time he is the mainstay in all of this sure is and of course the guy who uh you're pooping your pants i pooped my pants the guy who pooped his pants and that's got to be worth something right he's cooped in your pants i pooped my pants i pooped my pants

Speaker 1 it happened to be at the white house when he uh you cooptioned your pants i pooped my pants

Speaker 1 now how much is poo-poo pants making they're saying eight

Speaker 1 so it is more so but not pretty close that much yeah

Speaker 1 i mean that's a good gig he does the weather yeah and he talks to the audience once in a while

Speaker 1 and he does the parade and the parade. That's a good deal.
I'll do all of that for half of what I'll make. And, of course, $4 million.
For $8 million, I may go on TV and say.

Speaker 1 You pooped in your pants. I pooped my pants.
I'll do that for $1 million.

Speaker 1 I mean, just face it, it's a great gig either way. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure too many people are going to shed a tear for it, but the principle of the thing is what we'll be arguing for a while, I'm sure. Absolutely.
They'll make a big deal out of this.

Speaker 1 Triple 8-727-BECK. We were talking last week because of the president's

Speaker 1 tweet foreign policy situation. He tweets our foreign policy almost every day.
And yesterday it was my button's bigger than your button. Led us to discussing military options for North Korea or not.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we had a caller claim that the United States has never lost, and we should probably point that out to Kim Jong-un.

Speaker 1 There are people who do believe, and we've heard from them, that we lost the Vietnam War. And I just, I don't subscribe to that.
It's like, we weren't there when they lost. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 We didn't, had we stayed,

Speaker 1 they never would have

Speaker 1 taken over in South Vietnam and merged those two countries under a communist regime. It just wouldn't have happened.
Everybody knows that.

Speaker 1 We had to leave to enable them to sweep into South Korea and be victorious. We weren't there at the time.
That's not our loss. That's South Korea's loss.
Right? I mean, that's.

Speaker 1 That's the way I've always summed it up. Not that history books are paying attention to the way I've always summed it up.

Speaker 1 Let's go to Tim in South Carolina. Tim, hi, you're on the Glen Beck program.

Speaker 25 Wow, what a massive honor that the famous Pat Bray and maybe more less famous but more infamous Jeffy.

Speaker 12 I'm calling from

Speaker 12 right outside of Columbia in the booming Missoula metropolis of Lugos, South Carolina, where we have about 58,000 people and just a few less headed cattle.

Speaker 12 I'm a 30-year medically retired naval aviator, naval officer, and I just wanted to,

Speaker 12 oh, and man, guys, you don't realize that when you guys say that, it's our honor. It really is our honor to, I mean, we served at the pleasure of the president, which means we serve

Speaker 12 at the pleasure of the people. So it's our honor to do it.

Speaker 1 Well, you're welcome.

Speaker 17 Absolutely. Thank you.

Speaker 9 We appreciate it.

Speaker 26 I just want to, well, this is why your show is so important.

Speaker 12 Because you guys are throwing out there the truth.

Speaker 12 These people, people don't, anybody that says we've lost doesn't know history, and they probably are young, and they probably haven't covered it in history class.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 17 And that's assuming like a lot of other things they don't know.

Speaker 24 And they just need to read, read, read, read, read, read, read, read.

Speaker 12 Don't watch. You can watch documentaries.
That's okay, but read and read everything. Read what you don't like politically,

Speaker 12 read what you like politically, and you'll get the truth. You'll sift out the truth.
But the truth here is after the tight offensive, the North Vietnamese Army and the

Speaker 12 Viet Cong stopped. functioning as a fighting force.
When we left, they had just better stuff than the other guys, South Vietnamese, because we left.

Speaker 1 It's that simple.

Speaker 12 Why did we leave?

Speaker 16 I don't know. I wasn't there.

Speaker 12 I was born in 63. So I want to say to Tim in North Dakota, three things I say to Vietnam vets, because I'm post-Vietnam.
Thank you for your service. You know, thank you for doing what you did.

Speaker 12 And you paved the way for guys like me to serve, guys and gals like me to serve.

Speaker 6 But this is why your show is so critically important.

Speaker 12 You're out here telling the truth. You're out here spreading the truth.
You're out here making sure that history is shown to be the right history.

Speaker 12 There is a right history and a wrong history, and we see a lot of the wrong history.

Speaker 10 So you guys keep up the fantastic work.

Speaker 12 I never thought in a million years I'd call a national show, but I'm glad I did call this show. I've been listening to you guys since just after, you know, after you started, you know, and

Speaker 12 all I can say is that you make me laugh uproariously,

Speaker 13 and you guys speak.

Speaker 12 the truth and I'm proud to say that you guys are in our market and we appreciate everything that you do and I am done.

Speaker 18 And oh, your call screener is excellent.

Speaker 12 That's a hard-working person right there.

Speaker 9 I just want to throw that in.

Speaker 1 You guys have a happy time. Absolutely right.

Speaker 17 I'm going to go off the air. Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks, Tim.
Appreciate it. That's very nice.
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Speaker 1 I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that we did not lose in Vietnam. And

Speaker 1 the perception really began with Walter Cronkite

Speaker 1 that we were losing in Vietnam.

Speaker 1 Walter Cronkite in 1968, during the Tet Offensive, actually claimed, virtually claimed, that America was being overrun or that the United States troops were being overrun.

Speaker 1 The absolute opposite was true. We won the Tet Offensive.
Now,

Speaker 1 thousands, tens of thousands of North Vietnam troops amassed and poured into

Speaker 1 South Vietnam. And at the same time, Chinese troops

Speaker 1 helped.

Speaker 1 And we staved off that entire invasion. And for some reason, Walter Cronkite spun that as a loss, and that the Vietnam War was going poorly.
And

Speaker 1 because he was so important to Americans' daily lives,

Speaker 1 the most trusted man in America and all that, people just bought into it. From 1968 on, the perception pretty much was with Americans, we're losing.
We're getting our ass kicked there.

Speaker 1 And it just wasn't the case. Just not the case.
And history, history books kind of went along with that theory.

Speaker 1 But we kept them at bay. And again, like as in Korea, the point was not to

Speaker 1 go to North Vietnam and take the fight to them. It was to keep them out of South Vietnam.
We were trying to stop the spread of communism. Well, we did that while we were there.
Is that not a victory?

Speaker 1 If you want to say we were prematurely fine, let's call it a tie. But we did not lose that war.
We did not lose that war.

Speaker 1 Darlene in North Carolina, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Hi.

Speaker 17 Hello. Excuse me.

Speaker 27 I'm still wiping my tears from Hoda's bad news.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I'm

Speaker 22 going to be quick.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 27 Trump is such a negotiator and a successful one, and I think it's because he knows how to get down to the level of who he's negotiating with.

Speaker 27 And I think that's exactly what he's doing with Kim, is he's getting down to his language, his reactions, and knows how to use it against him.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Absolutely.
Thanks, Darlene.

Speaker 1 He's effective. He's a master at it.

Speaker 1 And he knows how to get under the skin of the media. And I think he enjoys that.
Oh, yeah. There's no question he enjoys that.
He's got some big award thing he's giving out next week, right?

Speaker 1 He's actually

Speaker 1 doing with the media. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The worst coverage and the most fake news. And it's a negative award.
Yes, it's a negative award.

Speaker 1 Stay tuned for next week that Trump's going to be giving out these awards. I mean, you know that just.
It's so amazing for the president of the United States. This is so unprecedented.

Speaker 1 It's hard to get used to, but it's certainly entertaining. It sure is.
Never a dull moment in the Trump administration. Larry in Oklahoma, welcome to the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 29 Jeffy, it's an honor and a real honor and a pleasure talking to you guys this morning.

Speaker 29 You're really on top of the news. I'm sure you've heard Donald Trump talk about

Speaker 29 requiring drug screening for unemployment checks.

Speaker 29 And, of course, the left is going crazy saying that that is dehumanizing and insulting.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable.

Speaker 29 I hope it's not too early for a little common sense and logic. So let's let's look at it from that perspective.

Speaker 29 Before a person can get an unemployment check, they first have to have employment to get a check.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 29 Correct? Yes. Before they can get that employment, they're required to pass a drug test.

Speaker 1 With some companies, yeah.

Speaker 29 Most companies.

Speaker 29 Any reputable company today requires that.

Speaker 29 So I don't see this as something that's dehumanizing and disgraceful. I I see it as a consistent policy.
If you have to pass a drug test to get an employment check,

Speaker 29 you should be required to pass a drug test to get an unemployment check.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 29 That's, to me, logic and common sense.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 29 I think this is nothing more than another step from those members of the movement to resist Trump on all fronts.

Speaker 11 That's all this is.

Speaker 29 And anybody that tries to make more out of it than that is probably part of that movement.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it. Thanks, Larry.
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Speaker 1 It's Pat and Jeffy for Glenn. 888-727-BEC.
What is the deal with Steve Bannon now? He seems a little unhappy with the Trumps. All of a sudden, he's done a 180 on the president.

Speaker 1 His former chief strategist, and I think he's still ahead of Breitbart, right?

Speaker 1 He's described the Trump Tower meeting between the president's son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as, quote, treasonous and unpatriotic, unquote.

Speaker 1 According to a new explosive book,

Speaker 1 Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolf, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted they're going to crack Don Jr.

Speaker 1 like an egg on national TV.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Look for a tweet about this

Speaker 1 about Steve Bannon shortly. You aren't lying.
It's not going to go over good with our president.

Speaker 1 This is the big banner headline right now on Drudge, which obviously the president reads continuously. And when he sees the huge

Speaker 1 Bannon banner headline in red,

Speaker 1 he is not going to be happy. Wow.

Speaker 1 I wonder what has happened in the relationship because he was fair, even after he left,

Speaker 1 he's been fairly loyal, it seems,

Speaker 1 to the Trump camp. Tough not to be right.
And now, not so much.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That's interesting. I don't know what happened, but

Speaker 1 for sure. You are lying.
Something definitely happened.

Speaker 1 888-727 back. Dennison, Ohio.

Speaker 1 You're on the Glenn Back Project.

Speaker 11 Happy New Year to you.

Speaker 17 Happy New Year.

Speaker 11 The reason I called, I disagree with both of you,

Speaker 20 especially you, Pat, about

Speaker 10 Vietnam.

Speaker 11 We never lost a battle in Vietnam.

Speaker 20 We only lost it politically.

Speaker 20 Because I was in the service in 63 to 67, right, when it started getting heavy.

Speaker 25 And I was on three destroyers, and we bombed the coastal,

Speaker 9 just

Speaker 20 literally just blew it off the map.

Speaker 15 But

Speaker 20 I just wanted to straighten you guys up.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Appreciate your service, by the way. Thanks, Dennis.
Appreciate the call.

Speaker 1 We definitely disagree on that.

Speaker 1 I mean, politically, maybe, but

Speaker 1 when you're talking a war, I don't know if you're talking politics. You're talking about who actually, you know,

Speaker 1 it's like a football game.

Speaker 1 Did you win by the score? Well, yes, but

Speaker 1 the owner lost the team afterwards, so he kind of lost anyway.

Speaker 1 I don't know that I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Ryan in Georgia, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Hi.

Speaker 1 Hey, Glenn. It's Pat.

Speaker 26 I just was curious.

Speaker 1 Just had a quick question.

Speaker 26 I was curious with you.

Speaker 26 When the president election was going on, you weren't too high on Trump's

Speaker 1 getting elected. Yeah, that's an understatement.

Speaker 26 I was just curious, you know, yeah, very. I follow all your podcasts and listen to you.
And I think now,

Speaker 26 are you saying that you are

Speaker 19 proud of the job he's doing?

Speaker 1 I'm saying that I'm pleasantly surprised with the job he's done. And, you know, as we said at the very beginning, we're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see what happens.

Speaker 1 So far, it's been pretty good. I mean, I still have problems with him and the way he conducts himself and Twitter.

Speaker 1 But some of the things he's done, and we've outlined them and will do so again, I'm sure, have been very, very good.

Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 This is the Glenn Beck program. Pat Gray, hey, Jeffy for Glenn, triple 8-727 back.
You can also catch Pat Gray unleashed right after this show on the Blaze Radio and TV network. Should clear up

Speaker 1 because our last caller mentioned our feelings for Donald Trump during the campaign. And we made that pretty clear.
Yes, we did. To our own peril, in fact.

Speaker 1 That's what we tell the truth. I mean,

Speaker 1 we express our opinions.

Speaker 1 That's what we do. And we were not excited about his candidacy.
I didn't think he was the best candidate.

Speaker 1 And yes, we made that fairly clear.

Speaker 1 He's not a conservative. Even Donald Trump would tell you he's not a conservative.

Speaker 1 So I wanted a conservative president.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 when the election came and went and Donald Trump won the presidency, we stated from the very beginning of his presidency that

Speaker 1 he's our president. He's our guy now.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Let's see what he does.

Speaker 1 I'm willing to sit back and watch to see, which we also did with Obama, by the way. Yes.
And he disappointed us very quickly, like day one.

Speaker 1 But for Donald Trump, this president has done some really good things. Obviously, the Supreme Court nomination,

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 EPA regulations that he has cut. Love that.
The Paris Accord he got us out of. The TPP treaty that he pulled out of.

Speaker 1 Giving state land back to the states.

Speaker 1 A states' rights move by the executive that I've... I can't remember the last time we saw that.

Speaker 1 We've also had huge gains in the war against ISIS.

Speaker 1 There's been a lot of things to be pleased about. They passed a tax cut bill that was kind of Congress, but he's going to sign it.

Speaker 1 He's the one who drove them, and it wasn't the best tax cut. I think we should have done better than that with the majority we have.

Speaker 1 But, you know, those are all good things.

Speaker 1 We still have,

Speaker 1 I still have some issues. with this president, but I think on the whole, I've been pleasantly surprised so far.
far. And we'll see if that continues.
I hope it does.

Speaker 1 But we've wished him well from the beginning.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 Always. That was the whole point.
I mean, nobody wanted to hear that. They wanted to hear us bashing him and not treating him with the

Speaker 1 Donald Trump. Or they were so mad at us because we didn't jump on his bandwagon immediately that they ignored everything we said.

Speaker 1 I don't know what. But I mean, it is important to realize that.
Look, we're judging him on his merits. That's the point.
Yeah. I mean, that's the whole deal.

Speaker 1 We don't want him to fail. He's the president of the United States.
It'd be silly. Unlike many people, I believe, against this very president in today's world who want to see him fail.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no question. I mean, they've said so.
The media, for example, and the media has been so ridiculous in their criticism of President Trump that it also pushes you into defense mode

Speaker 1 on his behalf.

Speaker 1 Even though you might not be the biggest supporter, they're so outrageous

Speaker 1 in their hatred

Speaker 1 that it just pushes you to jump in there and say, come on. You have to.
Come on.

Speaker 1 Triple 8, 727 back.

Speaker 1 Jack in Georgia. You're on the Glenn Back program.

Speaker 1 I wanted to. Hey.

Speaker 1 Jack? Hello. Hi, go ahead.

Speaker 1 I think the difference between winning and losing is who's in charge.

Speaker 20 In World War II, the generals were left in charge.

Speaker 9 MacArthur in the Pacific, and

Speaker 9 who was the guy in Europe. Anyway,

Speaker 17 the difference and

Speaker 9 Iraq.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 11 No, not Eisenhower.

Speaker 20 Marshall.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 Was the guy who re rebuilt Europe?

Speaker 1 The Marshall Plan afterwards, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 20 Yeah, okay. So we remained.

Speaker 11 We remained, but the military was in charge.

Speaker 1 Okay. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 20 Iraq, we beat them militarily. Vietnam, we beat them militarily, although we did not go far enough.

Speaker 20 You have to use

Speaker 20 force.

Speaker 20 And

Speaker 20 as soon as the State Department takes over and the military withdraws, you lose.

Speaker 20 That

Speaker 20 was true in Iraq.

Speaker 11 The day after the war was over

Speaker 20 and they were in Baghdad, the general had signs printed up that said, if I see you with an RPG or a long gun, I'm going to kill you.

Speaker 20 The State Department came in and said, you cannot do that. We're here to win hearts and minds.
Well, first you have to have the people's attention.

Speaker 20 Then Petraeus came along with a surge and retook the country. And that's not arguable.

Speaker 20 The State Department came in and gave it away.

Speaker 1 Yes. but military.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you're right. Appreciate that, Jack.

Speaker 1 We've been talking

Speaker 1 militarily

Speaker 1 militarily. And that's what the discussion has been on our part,

Speaker 1 is whether or not we won it militarily. And I believe we did.
And this all started from a caller who said we've never lost.

Speaker 1 And I just wanted to clear up because I knew a lot of people are going to go, Vietnam, we lost Vietnam. What about Vietnam? Remember Vietnam?

Speaker 1 So we're just making sure everybody understood. I don't think it's

Speaker 1 worst case scenario. Worst case.

Speaker 1 Worst case. Thanks, Jack.
Joe in Ohio, you're on the Glenn Beck program. Hi.

Speaker 31 Thank you.

Speaker 31 My question is, if you quit, is that considered a loss?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes it is.

Speaker 31 Whether it's militarily or politically or whatever, we quit.

Speaker 31 Do you consider quitting a loss?

Speaker 1 Not for the military.

Speaker 1 And again, again,

Speaker 1 did we win it militarily? Yes. It wasn't the military loss.
It was the politicians who got us out of there. And the politicians couldn't take the heat from the American people anymore.

Speaker 1 It was such an unpopular time.

Speaker 17 It was a tremultuous time.

Speaker 31 And that's why I think a lot of these veterans of the Vietnam War are addicted to

Speaker 24 drugs and alcohol. They're homeless.
They're downtrodden.

Speaker 6 I think they thought they lost the war.

Speaker 24 I think that's part of the problem.

Speaker 31 The government left them down, and I think it's psychologically

Speaker 1 affected them in that way. Yeah, I think so too.
Yeah, I mean, there's no argument there. Appreciate it, Joe.
Again, the argument was, did we win militarily? And I think, yes, we did. Yes, we did.

Speaker 1 So, but yeah, was the perception that we lost? Yes, that's why people have been saying that we're 12 and one in wars now.

Speaker 1 Every time somebody brings up Vietnam,

Speaker 1 they say, Well,

Speaker 1 when we lost in Vietnam, well, we didn't lose.

Speaker 1 We didn't lose that.

Speaker 1 The point is, American military might has never been vanquished. Never.

Speaker 1 Not in our history.

Speaker 1 Bob in Alabama, you're on the Glenbeck program. Hi.

Speaker 7 Good morning, sir. Hey.

Speaker 7 What I'm calling about is something that I've been hearing on TV a lot lately.

Speaker 7 And in talking about our country, what kind of a country do we have? Do we have a democracy or do we have a republic?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have a republic, obviously. One of my biggest penalties.
A lot of people could talk about

Speaker 16 our democracy.

Speaker 1 I know. And it doesn't stop.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It has been endless. And it's been endless really since the beginning, maybe before, but for sure it just became so noticeable during the Barack Obama presidency.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he's trying to get everybody used to the term. And it worked when we head to democratic socialism.
Well, we're a democracy. It worked.
Thanks, Bob. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 That's why I fight that battle all the time. That's why it's my pet peeve.
I can't stand it when people call it a democracy. We're not.

Speaker 1 And even our founders said democracies don't work because they looked back over history and found the fact that they don't work, which is why they didn't set up a democracy. They set up a republic.

Speaker 1 Salmon to Wisconsin. You're on the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 11 Today, gentlemen, I just wanted to say with all the goings on today, it seems like it reminds me of an old Western where the sheriff is crooked the prosecutor is crooked the judge and the governor

Speaker 1 as as it relates to uh who are we talking about

Speaker 25 the justice department yeah people in the justice department the people in the fbi right judges

Speaker 17 perhaps higher than that yeah we'll see where it goes appreciate it thanks

Speaker 1 you're right about that uh Republicans on key congressional committees right now are saying that they've uncovered new irregularities and contradictions in the FBI's probe of Hillary Clinton's email server.

Speaker 1 Investigators say they've secured

Speaker 1 written evidence that the FBI believed there was evidence that some laws were broken when Hillary and her top aides transmitted classified information through her insecure private email server.

Speaker 1 Some laws. You know, there's.
Look, there's, there's. Did she break every law? No, no.
No.

Speaker 1 No, so get off her back.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 you're going to break a couple couple yokes if she cracks them. And so that's what,

Speaker 1 I mean, that's what he's talking about here. It's just, then you get that perception that everybody is corrupt because as they're looking into corruption, they corrupt the investigation.

Speaker 1 I guess we're just supposed to look the other way and say,

Speaker 1 don't even worry about that. Don't even worry.
It's Hillary. It's Hillary.
And Hillary's just being Hillary. She already explained that it was probably not the best decision.

Speaker 1 She may not do it again if she had the choice. Leave her alone.
She knows

Speaker 1 she's with Bill. They're back home.
Everything's fine.

Speaker 1 At this point, what difference does it make? Thank you. If I could just sum it up that way.
Thank you. Bottom line, what difference does it make?

Speaker 1 What a great line.

Speaker 1 You know, so, of course, we've got the perception that everybody's corrupt. You have that perception that we're living in a bad Western movie now, where the sheriff is bad,

Speaker 1 the deputy sheriff is bad, the mayor is bad, the governor is bad, everybody's in on it, and they're all going after the honest brokers in their community

Speaker 1 because that's what it feels like. It sure does.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the way things feel,

Speaker 1 it is still really cold in much of

Speaker 1 the United States. Yeah, we've got the weather bomb going on across the country, right? We got to get into this.
90% of the U.S. didn't get above freezing on New Year's Day.
90%

Speaker 1 of the country, including Dallas, Texas, which is highly unusual. So 100% of this room

Speaker 1 is not above freezing.

Speaker 1 Still today.

Speaker 1 There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 I love it. And then, again, when you talk corruption, so

Speaker 1 what are the climate scientists saying? Yeah, it's because of global warming. Of course.
The cold is because of global warming. So no matter what happens as far as the weather is concerned,

Speaker 1 it's global warming. It's climate change.
And then they made us believe, right, that weather was different than climate change. At first, it was climate change was the weather.

Speaker 1 And then when people started doubting that, it's well, weather isn't climate change. Climate change is separate from weather.
It doesn't matter what the argument is.

Speaker 1 They win because everything means global warming. Right.
If it's warmer than normal, obviously that's global warming. Of course.
If it's a lot colder than normal, that's global warming.

Speaker 1 It's about the same, man. That's global warming.
That is, that's climate change.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable to me. And sure enough, they're citing this cold front as more evidence of climate change because people are saying, look how cold it is.
You're right.

Speaker 1 What do you mean global warming? And we've got record-breaking cold everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, that doesn't mean anything. That just means that there's global warming.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 it is, though. I mean, they're looking at flurries

Speaker 1 down to central Florida, possible flurries, and then all the way up the East Coast. It's cold all over the country, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. It's frigid, and

Speaker 1 that's because of global warming. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you.
Triple 8727 back.

Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 Glenn, Bat.

Speaker 1 Pat and Jeffy for Glenn.

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Speaker 1 B-E-C-K.

Speaker 1 You know, it's just, we were just talking about the

Speaker 1 cold that has gripped about 90% of the country. In fact, 90% on New Year's Day, 90% of the nation didn't get to the freezing level, didn't get to 32%.
That is crazy. That sure is.

Speaker 1 And of course, that means global warming to the global warming scientists.

Speaker 1 An Australian science writer has just, she wrote this article, and she noticed what I think many of us have noticed for years now.

Speaker 1 She said, for the radical climate crowd, extreme cold is just weather.

Speaker 1 But all heat waves are climate change. Isn't that the truth? Yeah.

Speaker 1 While heat waves and extreme weather events are routinely pointed to as indications of global warming trends, the coldest weather in over a century that we're having right now, ah, that's just the natural variability of the weather cycle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, things change. Of course, it's going to get cold sometimes.
Well, that's what we tell you about the heat.

Speaker 1 Why do you never say that about a heat wave? Well, yeah, that happens. It's always happened.
We've always had heat waves. That's why some of the records we have are from 1932.

Speaker 1 But every single time, and like you mentioned, we used to be told all the time, oh,

Speaker 1 don't confuse weather with climate

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 you can't do that. So, any weather-related event like a storm or a heat wave, that's just one day or a couple of day cycle thing.

Speaker 1 But climate is over a period of time.

Speaker 1 Then, all of a sudden, every single heat wave that happened, see, science, it's global warming. Every hurricane that happened, up, see, that's global warming.
There it is.

Speaker 1 Then you, they fell silent during the 12 years of no hurricanes hitting the U.S. mainland.
And then all of a sudden, a few do. And of course, that's global warming.
Just unreal.

Speaker 1 Let's go to Josh in Alabama. Hey, Josh, you're on the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 6 Hey, Glenn.

Speaker 23 Always love your show.

Speaker 30 I just wanted to bring up a point about the military laws.

Speaker 19 You may have already brought it up. I may have my facts a little misled, but didn't we get our butts handed to us in Panama?

Speaker 1 In Panama? No. What?

Speaker 1 Our butts got handed to us in Panama? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Hang on a second. We're out of time.
We'll get back to this on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Jeffy.

Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 Love.

Speaker 1 Courage.

Speaker 1 Truth. Glenn back.
Pat Gray and Jeffy for Glenn this week, 888-727-B-E-C-K.

Speaker 1 Immediately after this show, you can also check out Pat Gray Unleashed every day on the Blaze Radio and TV network. We're going to get back to Josh and our discussion.

Speaker 1 We've sparked some controversy here.

Speaker 1 One of our callers

Speaker 1 a few hours ago now

Speaker 1 mentioned the fact that the U.S. was unbeaten.
And

Speaker 1 it had to do with the tweets. between Trump and Kim Jong-un.
And maybe we should mention that, hey, we're unbeaten in war. And I knew that people were going to say, well, what about Vietnam? And so

Speaker 1 my perception, my belief has always been we didn't lose Vietnam. We left.
And they lost Vietnam. It wasn't us.

Speaker 1 We'll get back to that discussion in a second here. But

Speaker 1 an interesting little problem developed in Dallas last night.

Speaker 1 Are you familiar with Erica Badu?

Speaker 1 Of course you are. I mean, are you asking me? No, yeah.
I mean, obviously you're. The Erica Badu? Yeah.
I mean, you know, famous for such songs. Well, I won't even get into that one.

Speaker 1 There's the one list that does. There's the one song that she does, man.

Speaker 1 She's so terrific. I just love the Erica Badoux songs.
Well, I love the husband. That she does.
I love

Speaker 1 her look. The whole look.
The look with the long hair and the hat.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 1 She got pulled over in Dallas last night, and she said, Officer, why are you pulling me over? He smiled and replied on camera, which she was filming, because I wanted to say hi.

Speaker 1 So, a Dallas police officer, obviously familiar with Erica. Absolutely.
And all the great songs that she does,

Speaker 1 actually just pulled her, recognized her as he's driving by her and then pulls her over. And apparently, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 Despite the good-natured intention of the stop, there's a serious legal issue with the impromptu meet and greet. Stop it.

Speaker 1 Police are supposed to at least have probable cause that a driver has done something wrong before pulling them over.

Speaker 1 Stop it. It's not a huge issue.
It doesn't look like Erica Badu is making an issue out of it, but other legal minds are.

Speaker 1 Abuse of power. I know.
It seems stopping. It's kind of silly.
It's totally unprofessional.

Speaker 1 Is it for the police officer to say, hey, I just want to say hi. I'm looking out for you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 It's kind of a goodwill gesture. It sure is.

Speaker 1 But it's okay if the police officer pulls just anybody over and gives them a turkey over the Thanksgiving holiday or gives them a Christmas present over the Christmas holiday.

Speaker 1 Which they've done in some ways. They do all the time

Speaker 1 all around the country. They think it's cute to just pull people over and give them presents, but they can't just stop and say hi.
Stop it. Actually, police are trying to,

Speaker 1 you know, create the right perception of them. Thank you.
That they're helpers, they're there to serve and protect, but they're also good people.

Speaker 1 And that's why I think in a lot of communities, like police officers are encouraged to stop and hang out with kids once in a while just to show them, look. I mean, they did.

Speaker 1 We're not a scary force. We're here to help.
I mean, I know it was back in the turn of the century, but they did when I was a kid. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 you knew the police officers in the neighborhood. Right.
And it seems that they're trying to get back to that. I've seen videos of communities that encourage them to stop and hang out.

Speaker 1 You've seen the videos of them playing basketball with kids in the basement and that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah.
It's a cool thing.

Speaker 1 Triple 8 900 or 8800 is a terrible thing. No, it's not.
I mean, there's nothing that they should be reprimanding.

Speaker 1 It doesn't seem like a thing that needs to be made

Speaker 1 into a national crisis. No.
No, it does not. So let's just move past that.

Speaker 1 Okay, Josh in Alabama, you were saying that your belief is that Panama kicked our butts?

Speaker 23 Well, you know, once you said no, I pulled over, of course, and I got it on the internet. And now I realize

Speaker 23 my initial statement was way off page.

Speaker 1 Where did you get that? I had that in my head. Did you? Okay.

Speaker 13 During the time that it was going, I was living with a set of step parents that were highly Democrat and very literal surprise.

Speaker 11 Maybe that was it.

Speaker 1 I'll bet it is.

Speaker 1 I'll bet it is. Thanks, Josh.
Glad we were able to clear up that life

Speaker 1 misperception. If it wasn't their fault, it was Walter Crockite's fault.
I'll tell you that. The way he reported on Panama,

Speaker 1 Panama was 89.

Speaker 1 I doubt

Speaker 1 it was full of live time.

Speaker 1 He was alive. He was alive.
I don't think he was doing the series evening news. He was on the sailboat.
Panama was a huge victory.

Speaker 1 We invaded the country

Speaker 1 in

Speaker 1 1989. I think it was December 20th.
Within four days, we had almost total control of the entire nation.

Speaker 1 Look, that's what the whole control. And that's when we removed

Speaker 1 Noriega, brought him to Miami, made him stand trial, all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 It only took four days to

Speaker 1 secure

Speaker 1 advice.

Speaker 1 I thought you didn't like to talk to it. You know, I just let it.
I like, you know, it's

Speaker 1 like a lot of victories today.

Speaker 1 It's important to note that that was an important victory.

Speaker 1 Jeff in Tennessee. Hi, you're on the Glimpack program.
Hello.

Speaker 1 I disagree.

Speaker 33 America has lost the war.

Speaker 32 I'm from Tennessee, and here in the South, we lost Lincoln's war. And it fundamentally changed the way we see ourselves.

Speaker 1 That wasn't America, though.

Speaker 1 That was the Confederacy. America won that war.
The Union won that war.

Speaker 32 I think the results of that war

Speaker 32 left us with a centralized government where we had been a federation of sovereign states.

Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 1 with Washington,

Speaker 32 you know, we the national government being,

Speaker 19 you know, viewed as supreme has caused a lot of the problems we have today you know and the way we look at it and I hear on this program a lot of times and the basis of all this is the fact that we lost this war and it changed the way this government operates

Speaker 1 that we meaning the Confederacy lost the war yeah you sound like a guy who'd like the south

Speaker 1 you'd like you sound like a man who would like the south to rise again

Speaker 1 well no not necessarily.

Speaker 33 I like us to go back to

Speaker 33 the states being sovereign and us being a federation instead of

Speaker 9 it being the other way around.

Speaker 9 I think

Speaker 9 the local governments and the local control is more important than what happens in Washington.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I mean, there's still

Speaker 1 a certain amount of that.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it's not like it was during the Confederacy, obviously, but there's still a certain amount of local sovereignty and local control and state control. The states have certain rights.

Speaker 1 Yes, federal law supersedes that in some cases, although I'm not sure that's the right word for it. But,

Speaker 1 you know, like, for instance,

Speaker 1 the marijuana laws that people are passing in Colorado and California and Oregon, there's a federal law against

Speaker 1 smoking marijuana, buying, selling marijuana. Well, those states have declared it legal, and nothing's been done about it.

Speaker 1 Is that not state sovereignty?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there is still a spark of

Speaker 33 the old Constitution out there.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 32 I'm just saying, you know, but it changed the way the South we view ourselves. You know,

Speaker 33 we did suffer from a war and defeat and things like that.

Speaker 1 And I think

Speaker 33 because people don't look at it that way a lot of times, it is not taught that way.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not anymore, it's not. That's for sure.
Well, and in some cases.

Speaker 1 With good reason in some cases, it did end slavery, which if that changed the perception of the South, so be it.

Speaker 1 Because the perception of the South was that they were slave states.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, you wouldn't want to return to that.

Speaker 1 No, no, but that wasn't the cause of the war.

Speaker 32 That was a

Speaker 1 good one.

Speaker 32 It was economics.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 33 slavery could have been ended like it did in the in the British Empire.

Speaker 1 Well, it could have been, but it had it didn't. Because it kept going on and because

Speaker 1 the South insisted on slavery to the extent that they withdrew from the Union, I don't know how else you could have ended slavery. It ended 30 years prior to that in Britain.

Speaker 1 It it di it wasn't headed in that direction here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 32 you know, I know for a fact that Tennessee didn't secede for slavery.

Speaker 33 We seceded because we're going to be invaded.

Speaker 32 And if you look at it,

Speaker 1 you wouldn't have been invaded if it didn't secede.

Speaker 32 If they would have a war, Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, they wouldn't have seceded.

Speaker 1 But anyway,

Speaker 33 I just want to make that comment.

Speaker 1 All right, thanks, Jeff.

Speaker 1 A little disagreement there.

Speaker 1 The Civil War was definitely about slavery. And don't let people.
And you've come around to that, though. Oh, yeah.
I've always believed that, though. I've always believed that.

Speaker 1 I think Glenn's come around to that. Okay.

Speaker 1 Andrew in New York, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 26 Hey, Glenn, how are you doing?

Speaker 1 It's Pat, but I'm doing great.

Speaker 21 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Go ahead.

Speaker 26 I can't believe everybody missed this.

Speaker 11 The War of 1812.

Speaker 1 What about it?

Speaker 11 We declared war on Britain because they wouldn't leave our shipping alone, and then we got our butts kicked a little bit, and then we sued for peace.

Speaker 1 Got our butts kicked? What?

Speaker 1 We won that war. What do you mean we got our butts kicked?

Speaker 26 Listen, if burning the capital doesn't win you the war, I don't know what it does.

Speaker 1 Well, it didn't win them the war. No, it did not.

Speaker 1 Despite the fact that they burned the White House to the ground, it did not win them the war. We absolutely won the War of 1812.
Otherwise, we would be a British colony again. Right.

Speaker 18 I was mistaken.

Speaker 13 I thought we sued them for peace.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we would.

Speaker 22 We should be kind enough to during hostilities.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, Britain was not kind enough to do anything for us in those days.

Speaker 1 Thanks a lot, Andrew. What is wrong with you people?

Speaker 1 This is America. I mean, what are they teaching in school today? Is this where this is coming from? I don't know.
Wow.

Speaker 1 But we're America, damn it. There's a lot of people who believe we lost virtually every war that's ever been fought.
Stop it.

Speaker 1 Wow. I'm taking back the tie for Vietnam.
We won that too.

Speaker 1 Brian in Tennessee, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Hey, how are you guys doing? Doing good.

Speaker 16 All right. Well, enjoying this climate change down here in Tennessee.

Speaker 16 Anyway, I wanted to talk about South Korea.

Speaker 16 I spent a year over there in the military in 83.

Speaker 16 Our capabilities of knowing what they're doing, what they're moving, and where it's at is spot on.

Speaker 16 If we did have to break out and do a war over there,

Speaker 16 I don't know what the situation with our nuclear capabilities over there.

Speaker 16 I know Obama removed them from South Korea. I don't know if they've been put back or not,

Speaker 16 but we had the capability of knocking their stuff out and doing it pretty quick. Now, I know it still would be hard on Seoul with

Speaker 16 everything they got pointed at Seoul, but we would would do a pretty good job over there

Speaker 16 cleaning cleaning out their the North's capability of strike.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's good to hear. And you served in Korea for a time? Yes, sir.
How long were you there?

Speaker 16 I was there

Speaker 16 twelve months.

Speaker 1 Did you feel like the people there appreciated our presence or

Speaker 16 oh my god, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 16 The South Korean people are wonderful people.

Speaker 16 I did when I was over there, I got a chance to

Speaker 16 talk talk to a colonel that was there during, he was retired,

Speaker 16 during the Korean War. And I was stationed at

Speaker 16 Songton-see,

Speaker 16 and it's

Speaker 16 Hill 180. When they took that hill, the North Koreans had crucified

Speaker 16 women and children up the hill. Our soldiers had to fight up that hill

Speaker 16 and literally hand to hand at the last point of the battle and

Speaker 16 jump in the trenches and throw the grab the North Korean, throw him down

Speaker 16 the hill for

Speaker 16 the buddies to bayonet. That's how fierce it was.
And the North Korean soldiers, they're just heartless.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 21 they're a brutal force and

Speaker 16 should not be just

Speaker 16 titted around with.

Speaker 16 And then as it changed, when I was there,

Speaker 16 the leader at the time, I think it was

Speaker 16 grandda, Kim Il's grandfather, and

Speaker 16 his father was head of the North Korean

Speaker 16 Special Forces Unit.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 16 we knew he was a nut job from the beginning.

Speaker 19 And

Speaker 15 son ain't much less.

Speaker 16 It's a bad situation there right now and stuff.

Speaker 16 And like I said, I know President Obama removed our nuclear capability from South Korea, but I don't know if Trump's reinstituted it or not. Do you guys know?

Speaker 1 I don't. I was just kind of looking up.
Appreciate the call, though. And thanks for your service, Brian.
When you said that, thank you. I was thinking, do we actually get rid of them?

Speaker 1 I remember talking about them, but what I can find out is we did get rid of the tactical nukes out of South Korea.

Speaker 1 We could still reach North Korea with

Speaker 1 planes, with missiles. Right.
Because they were talking about

Speaker 1 some of the military people from South Korea were saying that it might be time for us to bring back the tactical nudes to South Korea.

Speaker 1 That has been this earlier, well, 2017, last year.

Speaker 1 But I don't believe they have. However, you're right.
There's plenty of nuclear power that can hit them. No problem.
Yeah. Triple 8-727 back.

Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 Pat and Jeffy for Glenn, 888-727-BC.

Speaker 1 Big announcement from Orrin Hatch yesterday of Utah, who's been in office since just after the War of 1812.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he's got some experience. You'd call him a seasoned senator, I think, at this point.

Speaker 1 Seasoned. He's been in office for a little over 190 years.
Right. I mean, I know he said one of his statements.
I don't know if it was

Speaker 1 his own little Facebook Live feed or whatever it was, but I know he was, you know, bragging on how good he's been over the years and how he's got the most legislation and laws passed. And I believe

Speaker 1 his timeline was living senator. And I thought, well, so? I mean,

Speaker 1 you're the last one alive since the beginning of the country. Spanned the entirety of the U.S.
Senate.

Speaker 1 But I know, you know, he's look.

Speaker 1 Somebody convinced him the last last few months

Speaker 1 to get out. And I don't know who that was.
Maybe it was his wife. They said it was his wife.
Reports were that his wife was saying, this is it. You don't need to run again.
Be done.

Speaker 1 I want word, you know, you're done. Yeah.
And so, you know,

Speaker 1 I guess you have to kind of mention that. He's at 83 years old.
Yeah. It's definitely time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's been terrible

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 most of his senator. We're talking about Orin Hens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we are. I mean, the senator from Utah is what we're talking about, right? He's been terrible.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm talking about Orin Hedge, the guy that's been in office for 40 years.
The guy who reminds me of, I don't know, John McCain, perhaps,

Speaker 1 that sort of politician.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's

Speaker 1 sad that we're just, we get comfortable with people and we just allow them to stay

Speaker 1 forever. That goes back to the term limits chat we had yesterday, man.
It's the same thing.

Speaker 1 It's the thing like the term limits are the voters, but

Speaker 1 again,

Speaker 1 that's almost kind of what it is, really, is the complacency of, nah, whatever. I know him.
He's already there. And I don't know the other guy.

Speaker 1 And I don't want to lose any of the power that we wield because he's been there for so long. Right.
That's what happens.

Speaker 1 President Trump tried to convince him to stay. He wanted him around for years to come because

Speaker 1 Hatch has been a very proponent of the

Speaker 1 big. And

Speaker 1 so he's not going to have that.

Speaker 1 And that's why it's a huge deal to Donald Trump that Mitt Romney might run because Romney's not a fan. I know.
So that'll be interesting to watch.

Speaker 1 First of all, to see if Mitt runs, which I'd expect him to.

Speaker 1 I know you say you expect him to. I don't.
I think he will. 70 years old now.
He's already said he would consider it strongly if Hatch stepped down.

Speaker 1 And at the time, it looked like he wasn't going to, but now he has. So we'll see.

Speaker 1 We'll see. And our boy quit altogether, right? He's just Mr.
TV star now, the guy that

Speaker 1 was the congressman. Jason Chaffin? Yeah.
I mean, he's just done, right? It's over.

Speaker 1 He hurt hurt his foot and had a surgery and quit the Congress. Yeah.
So I don't know if he would consider getting back into it and running for the office again.

Speaker 1 He might be a possibility for that overall.

Speaker 1 He's comfortable enough with the state and familiar enough name-wise. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see.

Speaker 1 I know that the president and the entire Trump camp is not excited about that possibility, but they may have to face it anyway. Could be a Senator Romney soon.

Speaker 1 We'll find out because he's going to have to declare pretty soon.

Speaker 1 The election is this year

Speaker 1 in November. I don't know.
Romney. We'll see.
Triple Eight. It's a good gig.
It's a good gig, but he's 70 now. Does he need it? He's only 13 years younger than Hatch.
I know. He doesn't need it.

Speaker 1 He doesn't need to be that. Yeah, need, I don't think, figures in.
Do you want it? That's the question. We'll see.

Speaker 1 Glenn back.

Speaker 1 This is the Glenn Beth program. With Pat and Jeffy, this week, say what you will about the President Trump tweets.

Speaker 1 North Korea just reopened their border hotline with South Korea.

Speaker 1 Does that mean something's working? Kind of seems like it. Sure does.
I mean, yeah, it's been tense over the last six or eight months, and everybody was wondering, was this the right thing to do?

Speaker 1 You just really ratcheted up the heat, but now it seems to have cooled off.

Speaker 1 Things seem to be maybe even improving somewhat. All of a sudden, North Korea is making these gestures to South Korea.

Speaker 1 They're reopening the border hotline with the South. They just did that today.
They already tested it. It apparently works.
It's open again.

Speaker 1 They've also extended an olive branch to the Olympic Games that are going to be held in South Korea next month.

Speaker 1 The Winter Olympics next month, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there was talk by Nikki Haley that we might not even go because the tension was so high. It would be so dangerous, yes.
Yeah, that's pretty much done. Sure.
That's over. We're definitely going.

Speaker 1 And North Korea has basically promised not to do anything. I mean, that's

Speaker 1 you've got to believe that that had definitely something to do with Trump's big stick.

Speaker 1 Look, we're bigger. Have a nice day.
Right.

Speaker 1 You know, and I said it's reminiscent of the My Dog's Bigger Than Your Dog kettle ratio campaign.

Speaker 1 My dog's bigger than your dog. My dog's better than yours.

Speaker 1 My button's bigger than your button. That's classic.
My button's bigger than yours.

Speaker 1 Did it work? I kind of think it did work. It looks like it kind of feels like it did seven two seven it's one

Speaker 1 triple eight seven two seven back let's go to Elizabeth

Speaker 1 800 no no it's 880. Hey Elizabeth, welcome.
Hi, Pat and Jeffy.

Speaker 27 I'm happy to talk to you.

Speaker 27 I just wanted to call because, well, first of all, I really have to commend you and Jeffy on your attitude change about Trump. I wasn't never a Trumper primary and also

Speaker 27 in the general election.

Speaker 1 That was a tough time, man. Those are tough times.

Speaker 34 It was. And I mean, I started out just because the media and the people in Washington were so atrocious, I just started out feeling I had to defend him.

Speaker 20 And

Speaker 10 I did.

Speaker 27 But there's one thing I have to disagree with you on.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I love the tweets. I absolutely love the tweets.

Speaker 34 I'm like a kid at Christmas waiting for, you know, Santa.

Speaker 1 What people are bringing me this time.

Speaker 1 Are you? You're definitely not alone. Well, Christmas comes every day for you then because those tweets are non-stop.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I was concerned this morning. I was working filling in for Doc Thompson on the morning show on the Blaze Radio Network, and President Trump didn't tweet all morning.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I thought he'd lost his phone. I thought we ought to send some help into the White House, man.
Fortunately, he's tweeting. He found it.
Yeah, something happened.

Speaker 34 I know, you know, it's like he's always pulling people's chains. He's got a

Speaker 34 quirky sense of mischief that comes through there. But

Speaker 34 no, and don't get me wrong, I pray every single day for Donald Trump, for God to give him wisdom.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Because sometimes

Speaker 10 the tweets go a little far.

Speaker 34 But, I mean, can you imagine? I mean, if Solomon tweeted, you know, like, okay, you, bro, I'd stop squabbling.

Speaker 10 I've got a big sword.

Speaker 10 I mean, I don't know if he would do that.

Speaker 1 I don't know either.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of wisdom there with that guy.

Speaker 1 I've been proud now to call him my president. I never thought I would be.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 of course, there's also, we don't have to see Barack and Michelle in the

Speaker 1 Thank Heaven for that. I mean, he gets a lot of points for that.
Yes, he does. Thanks a lot, Elizabeth.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 That's for sure. I mean, people do love it.
Again, it's why, I think it's one of the reasons he was elected.

Speaker 1 They just liked somebody speaking their mind, somebody defending themselves and the Republican Party and the values that the right has and not taking crap from them anymore. That's mostly.

Speaker 1 There sure is. There sure is.
There's a lot to be said for

Speaker 1 that and

Speaker 1 how America sees. America.
I mean, you see with our callers today. I mean, how many times have we lost it?

Speaker 1 We have somebody who's not apologizing for everything we've done.

Speaker 1 We've got somebody who has said America first.

Speaker 1 I mean, we all respond to that. Kidding.
Except for the left.

Speaker 1 They seem to respond better to America in the middle or maybe down near the bottom. I mean, that's what they want.

Speaker 1 That's what they want. That's kind of the plan, right? They want us brought down to size.

Speaker 1 Some of the plan was that, well, we couldn't bring - we can't bring up some of the weaker countries as high as the U.S., so we've got to bring some of the U.S. down.

Speaker 1 Now, they never admitted that, but that's obviously the strategy. Yes.

Speaker 1 David in New York, welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Speaker 9 Hi there, Pat.

Speaker 14 I wanted to point out that you said one of your pet peeves is when people say we have a democracy instead of a republic.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And one of my pet teams is when people call things wars that aren't actually wars because we've only had about declarations of war in our history.

Speaker 1 That is true.

Speaker 1 That is true.

Speaker 13 We've only declared war about six times: the Revolution, War of 1812,

Speaker 14 Mexican-American, Spanish-American, and World War I.

Speaker 1 Right, but it's hard to say the Vietnam police action all the time.

Speaker 9 Or Vietnam arms conflict.

Speaker 1 Or the armed conflict. Yes.
Yes. So people shorten that a little bit, but you're right.
It's technically not correct.

Speaker 1 So you can't really lose a war if it wasn't a war, can you? No, you can't. No.

Speaker 1 I noticed you didn't mention Urgent Fury.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 The Island of Spice.

Speaker 1 Grenada. I mean, thanks for your call, David.
Near and dear to Jeffy's heart. Thanks a lot, David.

Speaker 1 No, that was not called a war. That was not declared either, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, having been such an integral part of that,

Speaker 1 surely you know that. All I know is we went to battle and we won one for the four days of hell.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't. What?

Speaker 1 I'm just

Speaker 1 admitting that it was four days of hell for you. It was.

Speaker 1 Ron in Pennsylvania, you're on the Glen Pack program. Hi.

Speaker 4 Hi, guys. Hey, thanks for all you do.
Just quick point.

Speaker 4 You know, Kim Jong-un is a boy, and Donald Trump is the type of guy to me that wasn't pushed around as a kid.

Speaker 4 I mean, you look as I'd love to ask Barack Obama if he ever got in a fight as a kid, because I bet he just stood there and let the bullies push him down and punch him in the face, walk the other way.

Speaker 4 And now we've got a guy that's not bending down, bowing to the leaders. And this guy's a global boy, and Trump's just not going to put up with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So,

Speaker 4 that's what I got to say.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it. Thanks.
That certainly is the perception of Donald Trump. And

Speaker 1 good.

Speaker 1 Good.

Speaker 1 That's what got him elected. And yes, and Americans are responding to it because we've been pushed around for so long.
And the mainstream media has had

Speaker 1 free reign of saying whatever they want without any retaliation against them. Well, that's not the case anymore.
And they don't like it. No, they do not.

Speaker 1 How dare you respond to something we've said? You can't respond to what we've said. Well, yes, we can.
And he does, and he's not going to play that game where he allows them to set the tone every day.

Speaker 1 He sets the tone every day

Speaker 1 as he did yesterday with the big button thing. And they've got to be loving because he announced also yesterday that he's going to uh have the most dishonest and corrupt media awards next week

Speaker 1 that's going to be fun to watch oh my gosh and they're going to have they're going to be apoplectic about that they are going to lose their minds i will be announcing the most dishonest and corrupt media awards of the year on monday at five o'clock Subjects will cover dishonesty and bad reporting in various categories from the fake news media.

Speaker 1 Stay tuned. Is he just so he's tweeting it? Is that going to be a series of tweets as well? It already has been.
He tweeted that yesterday.

Speaker 1 Tony in Arkansas, you're on the

Speaker 1 Glenbeck program. Hi, Pat.

Speaker 1 I just want to say real quick that, you know, I ain't really too worried about North Korea because the Ohio class can drop 192 warheads on them.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 10 right now they're in a building stage, and if we don't do something about it,

Speaker 10 they're going to get so massive that it's going to do a lot of damage damage before we can stop them because they've already broke the armistice this year and i don't remember what was in the armistice but uh

Speaker 10 i'm pretty sure that uh them having nots also broke it but i don't i'm not sure on that point but uh i also wanted to say real quick that uh steve bannon he needs to learn the meaning of treaters uh traitors because uh You know, we're not at war with Russia, so anybody can talk to a Russian right now.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Not a traitor.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Tody.
And there's been no collusion proven. There's a lot of,

Speaker 1 you know, there's a lot of accusations. There's been no proof yet.
Also, we have another person who's just been fired for sexual harassment, supposedly, right? This was in the college football world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, University of Arizona, Richard. Rich Rodriguez.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who came to fame, I think, at West Virginia, right? And then he

Speaker 1 went to Michigan. And then he went went to Michigan.
Didn't last long there. Went to Arizona.

Speaker 1 Now he's been fired from Arizona for some allegation, which they investigated and then basically said, yeah, we didn't find anything.

Speaker 1 The person who used to work for him with a hostile workplace claim, and she alleged all this stuff.

Speaker 1 And the only thing that she alleged that he admitted to, he said everything else was wrong, was an affair.

Speaker 1 It was an extramarital affair. And he said he's working that out with his wife.
Did she admit that was a consensual relationship or not? It wasn't with her.

Speaker 1 It wasn't with the person that was complaining. It was someone else.
The complaint was saying that

Speaker 1 she had to

Speaker 1 cover for him. Oh, okay.
You know, as part of the hostile work. Okay, so the person he was having an affair with wasn't the complaintant.
No.

Speaker 1 No. And yeah, the university looked into it and they said

Speaker 1 we checked it all out and we really couldn't find anything.

Speaker 1 So we fired him anyway.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 what

Speaker 1 so they looked into it they couldn't find any evidence of sexual harassment it was weird so why did they fire the guy i mean

Speaker 1 look the guy is kind of a you know did they go to football reasons then i mean are they just not happy with the program was he gonna get fired anyway yeah it's possible the program had slipped a couple you know couple notches although you know it appeared when he showed up it was looking good but then he had some some injuries so you know you use that as an excuse for a couple years.

Speaker 1 And they just

Speaker 1 lost another ball game. It's coming off a big loss.
So, you know, it's possible that it was time to let him out. Now, look, before you shed too many tears for Riz Rodriguez,

Speaker 1 for sure, he's walking away with $6 million. Oh, wow.
As his buyout. That's a nice way to walk away.
And then

Speaker 1 there was another part of his contract that was, I wasn't sure.

Speaker 1 I got to figure out what that is so I can put it in a contract if I ever get a contract.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 some deal that he had with the university that was going to be worth a little over $3 million if he had kept his job until March.

Speaker 1 And since they got rid of him before March 15th or something like that, mid-March, it's only worth 25% of the $3 million, a little $3.5 million. Oh, okay.
So he gets a little bit of of that, too.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be about

Speaker 1 $6,500,000. You know, $7 million, maybe somewhere in there.
So he'll, you know, he might be able to survive a week, you know, get by. I don't know.

Speaker 1 We got to get in touch with these college coaches and find out how they have such great

Speaker 1 parting deals. Boy, no kidding.
Wow. Triple H

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Speaker 1 I don't want to get through today without mentioning the horror that's taking place in Oregon for some residents in the great state of Oregon. Oh, no, what's happening there? It took effect

Speaker 1 this week.

Speaker 1 That means that if you live in a county with less than 40,000 residents, you now pump your own gas. Oh, my gosh.
How can anybody expect to be alive? I mean, I don't expect the state to be alive.

Speaker 1 How can anyone be expected to pump their own gas? Yeah, it is horrific. Horrific.
I don't know how they're going to survive.

Speaker 1 What if they're smoking a cigarette and they drop it down the gas tank while they're pumping?

Speaker 1 I mean, there were some people commenting from the news story that talked about, I don't even know how to pump gas. I'm 62.
And they're serious? No, thanks.

Speaker 1 I don't want to smell like gasoline.

Speaker 1 So in Oregon, like New Jersey, they always have an attendant do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's, what, two places in the world left like that? You get pretty used to it, though. You know,

Speaker 1 I used to get gas in New Jersey when I was there. You get pretty used to it.

Speaker 1 That used to it where you don't even know how to do it? No, no, no. no, no.
Come on now. Let's suck it up in Oregon.
It'll be okay. I promise.

Speaker 1 Glenn, back.