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what the heck happened with Rand Paul and his neighbor

because this story is it's been a week now since Rand Paul was attacked in his front yard, but the story remains a mystery and something isn't right.

The inconsistencies are just bizarre.

First, it was initially reported that Paul's injuries were minor, just a few nicks and scratches on his face and a sore side.

We now know that all of those injuries were severely underreported.

Paul suffered six, we were told at first, well, third, five broken ribs.

Now it's six broken ribs, bruises on his lungs.

Three of the broken ribs were displaced fractures, fractures, which could have led to internal bleeding and even death.

These are not, quote, minor injuries.

There's only one way to describe this, and that is a vicious attack.

The next inconsistency was the motive.

Initially, it was said the attack was a result of a long-running feud the two men had over leaves and lawn clippings.

Will that make sense, maybe, in an upside-down world, if he had minor nicks and scrapes?

But one neighbor now said the two men haven't even spoken to each other in several years, which seems to back up a statement made by Senator Paul's advisor, Doug Stafford, who said the first conversation with the attacker happened when Senator Paul's ribs were broken.

This was not a fight.

It was a blindside, violent attack by a disturbed person.

End quote.

Another neighbor told reporters yesterday that the motive couldn't have been about leaves or stray grass, saying that Paul has one of the most trim and tidy landscaped yards on the street.

An FBI investigation has begun to determine if the attack was motivated by politics.

We know that the attacker hates Donald Trump, the GOP, follows Occupy Democrats and social media, makes anti-Republican posts on Facebook.

And we also know the left is becoming increasingly more violent.

And not only is it getting worse, but it is becoming more accepted.

Try this.

An unnamed person in Congress told a CNN reporter, quote, Can you imagine living next door to that guy?

I'm pulling for the neighbor, end quote.

Is this Congressman actually glorifying a possible politically motivated attack on a sitting senator that resulted in six broken ribs with a bruised lung?

Isn't this what happened right before the Civil War?

Welcome to the new norm in violent U.S.

politics.

It's Friday, November 10th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Guys, I think this might be the Charles Sumner moment

just happening in a different way.

But I sure would like to get to the bottom of it.

We'll talk about Rand Paul and that a little bit later on in the program.

Let me touch base on Roy Moore and

Louis C.K.

First, let's start with the update on Gimme Louis C.K.

Louis C.K., comedian, of course, long rumored to have a

propensity to

want to do certain things

to himself in front of women.

Okay, do you even understand that?

For a myriad of reasons, I do not understand.

Right, I mean, I can understand a few things, not even like them or think that they're

anywhere near normal or something that I would want to do.

I bet I can go, like, okay,

I don't understand this one at all.

No,

it is a different strokes for different folks.

Takes sad meaning here.

Yes, it does.

At least this one doesn't involve a potted plant.

No, it doesn't.

Yes, that's a good development.

The five women, I don't know that any of them are accusing him of illegal activity, but they're saying, I think the word they said was sexually or sexually inappropriate conduct.

So, you know, okay, so the ones that I have read,

he has

asked,

hey, can I do this in front of you?

And they have, some of them have said,

no, no, and walked away, and that was the end of it.

Right.

Others said yes, then watched it and were really uncomfortable, but laughed all the way through it, which, of course, is such a turn-on

for the guy.

Because that's it.

Being laughed at during that rise,

probably really not

a confidence boost, I would say.

But then left saying they just felt weird and uncomfortable.

And yeah, I mean, so they were, it doesn't seem like any of them were into it.

So there's that.

But did any of them say no, and he just did it with a positive plan?

Did it anyway?

I don't, you know, I've been reading so many freaking accusations on this topic lately, but I don't believe any of them said no, and he did it anyway.

There was one woman who said he was on the phone with her, and she believed while they were on the phone, he was doing something to himself.

And then she waited till the phone call ended and hung up, and that was seemingly the end of it.

Another one, you talked about the two comedians who went to his

hotel room.

He decided he was going to do this thing in front of them.

They stayed for the whole thing and laughed at him, then left and started

sort of telling everyone what a loser they thought he was, basically.

Which I would agree with.

Seems like I would agree with that.

Now, that one is the only one because there's some

inkling in the article that

there were high-level people in the world of comedy who were trying to convince them to stop talking about it because they didn't want Louis ZK to look like a loser.

But there's no specific, like, you know, the women say, well, this is a high-level manager.

He's like Kevin Hart's manager and, you know, big comedians, managers as Ezen Sari as manager.

And so

they wouldn't apply for jobs if he was the person in charge of them because they believed

they wouldn't get them.

They'd have no chance.

So it wasn't, there was never a situation where they caught someone saying, well, you're never going to get a job in this town.

They just believed, well, we had this awkward history.

They're never going to hire me.

I'm not even going to try for it.

Okay, well, so then there's no, there's no,

seemingly, there's no harassment and there is no

power game.

And again, seemingly.

Yeah, I'll give you seemingly because I, again, I've there's a bunch of accusations of that, but I may have misremembered one of them that was worse than this, but

the ones I just described were definitely in that article.

Okay, so if that is as bad as it gets, I find it really creepy.

Really, I don't, you know,

I won't look at him the same anymore.

Although he talks about stuff like that all the time in his, in his routine, and that was one of the situations, right?

Like people are saying, look at his comedy, and it's, and I think it was the New York Times who did this story.

I believe this.

Look at his comedy, and he basically describes these actions

in his shows, and not only in his stand-up, but also in his show Louie and other elements.

I don't know if that's a fair way to judge it.

I mean, it's kind of hard where you can say, okay, okay, well, look back at what this guy said publicly.

That must have meant he was hinting that he did these things.

In a joke.

In a joke.

I mean, I don't know that that's a fair standard because you could always do that, right?

You could always, if you accuse someone of something they've said publicly that you already know about, and then you're using that as confirmation of the activity,

that's a standard that anyone who says anything publicly could be hit by.

So I don't, you know, the fact that he joked about sexually explicit things doesn't necessarily make him guilty of these things.

And I don't know that any of it was actually a criminal accusation.

Right.

So if it's not criminal,

it's just creepy.

And there's a difference between criminal and creepy.

There's a difference between sexual harassment and really creepy.

Right.

And I think that line is important

because

I don't

look as long as somebody, as long as it is,

I can't even believe we're having this conversation, but as long as it is consensual, what people do, I don't want to know.

Right.

I don't want to know any of it.

Now, they don't care.

As long as it's consensual.

Right.

And these women are saying they didn't want to be part of it.

Right.

The issue is in advance of that,

you know.

Is it a situation where they were threatened, where they had job ramifications to this?

No, if you don't want to be a part of it, first of all, if you don't want to be a part of it, you leave the room.

Right.

You leave the room.

100%.

Now, if he was barring the room or they felt threatened, you know, like

Harvey Weinstein, you start to feel threatened that he's going to wreck your career.

Well, then that's a different story.

But they're not alleging that, right?

No.

Well, except for I told you that one story about the manager who they thought was powerful and they did it.

Okay.

That was about the biggest evidence.

I'll give you another one.

I just remembered another one of the cases.

A woman, he asked a woman whether he could do this

with her in the room in his office.

She said yes.

She said yes.

It happened.

She left and later felt shame.

Well, she should have, it's just that's that's a that's a shame delay.

You should have been ashamed of yourself immediately when you even thought.

Well, maybe.

But her point was, and there's some validity to this, I guess.

And she said she was in her, you know, she's in her early 20s.

He's a powerful guy.

I didn't know what to do.

So I said yes and sat there through the whole thing and then left.

I mean,

again,

this situation, if, let's just say she's into him, right?

If it's Brad Pitts doing this and she's into it, that story has probably happened a thousand times in Hollywood, and we'll never hear that story because it was something that she was into.

Whether he should be doing that at work, first of all, that's a real...

I don't think I would hire

a problem with, isn't this a problem with society not teaching our children by the time they're 20 that you don't go to a man's office and you're meeting him for the first time and he drops his drawers and says, hey, I want to touch myself.

Do you mind?

You should have enough respect.

I mean, I think our grandparents would have known at, you know, 15 or 20, yeah, yeah,

I'm not interested.

No, thank you.

Now,

it's at that point

that it changes back to the man.

I don't buy this.

I didn't, I didn't know what to do.

You say no.

Right.

You say no.

And again, it's important to, you're not blaming

victims or anything.

I'm wondering about culturally, where the hell are we?

Because this is not, if you say no to something and someone does it anyway, it is 100% not your fault.

Yeah, it's their fault.

It is their fault.

100%.

If someone asks you to do something and you say yes to it,

and then later on you decide that you shouldn't have said yes to it.

That is.

Unless there's coercion.

Unless coercion.

If there's something that you've been plied with, you know, you've been plied with drinks or you've been plied with something.

But if you're just sitting and you're having a normal conversation and you're talking about things and they're like, hey, by the way, would you mind if I do this?

Yes.

Then after that point, it's all on them.

It's all on them.

100%.

Yeah.

100%.

It's an interesting, it's a tough line to draw because, you know, look,

that whole courtship thing is weird.

People do it in weird ways.

That's not a courtship.

That's not courtship.

That's animal.

We are not animals.

We are not animals.

Again, are you judging whether you think this is a good way to pick women up?

Because I I would agree with you, it's not.

But I mean, people do it, right?

I mean, people have

this weird idea that these things don't happen in a world of Tinder.

And I mean, that is the culture way more now than it ever has been.

People, weird sexual stuff is going on all the time.

And thank God, almost all of it's consensual.

But can't there be,

shouldn't there be a

standard in society?

So to destroy his career because he did something

that is really disgusting

is different than destroying his career because he did something illegal.

I agree with that.

And I'm not sure

because I don't know.

I'm just

urging caution here.

You know,

was he coercing?

Was he doing?

Or was this, if you're sitting there laughing at him when you did it, you can judge it later later differently, but you laughed while it was happening.

So

I don't know how to judge that.

We need to have that kind of conversation.

If you are giving consent to be there, then you gave consent.

It's the woman in New Jersey, or not in New Jersey, Long Island, with Harvey Weinstein.

Hey, do you mind?

No.

Well, I'm going to do it anyway.

That's totally different now.

Totally different.

That's totally different.

And it's totally different if you say, yes, I'm interested in being in the room with you while you do that.

And halfway through it, you decide it's a bad decision.

And you say, bye, I'm leaving.

I'm leaving.

Totally, again, it goes back to him.

100% of the responsibility is him.

You know, the issue here is

if a guy in a position of power, like I guess Louis C.K.

was at this time,

asks this,

you know, and the woman says yes, is that on him?

So there's,

I think it is morally because you shouldn't be just randomly hitting up some girl you just met to do that at work.

It's all bad ideas.

So there's three, so there's three things.

One, we have to teach men how to be men and how to behave around women.

But I don't know how to do that now.

You don't do that.

That's an animal behavior.

You're not an animal.

So one,

we have to teach men.

Then we have to teach our women to be strong enough enough to say, no,

no.

Then the third is we need to teach the women when they say no, that they can come forward in a safe way, not guaranteed to be believed, but guaranteed to be listened to and taken seriously.

And then we have to judge it.

But

this is a society.

This is obviously a societal thing, and just because of the way it's all coming out, it seems to be a real problem

more than

just in the whole country.

It seems to be a real problem in Hollywood.

And in Washington.

We go there next.

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Glenn back.

Glenn back.

You know, I

I don't understand

as long as it's consensual, I don't understand why society would destroy Louis C.K.

because it was creepy, what he did, because I think it was creepy.

And if it turns into illegal or harassment, then it's a different story.

Yes.

But as long as it was consensual, it's just creepy.

And, you know, it's kind of like, you know, after sex, everybody kind of, you know,

you've seen this in every movie.

You know, a couple has sex and they're like, okay, let's not make this weird.

The problem with this is it started weird.

So you guys say it has no place else to go.

However,

there's a difference between creepy and illegal.

And with the Louis C.K., it seems creepy and possibly

illegal or into

harassment.

I want to change topics and go to Roy Moore,

which

is illegal, if true, is illegal.

And there's a big difference there.

So let's go into politics next.

And

Roy Moore.

What's the story there?

Next.

Glenn, back.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

All right, there is another story now from the Washington Post that we have to look at.

And this one is about Judge Roy Moore and how he initiated a sexual encounter with girls, one when she was 14, he was 32, another with a 16-year-old girl, 17-year-old girl, an 18-year-old girl.

All right.

The 16, 17, and 18 I find disgusting.

However,

it was legal.

The 14-year-old is not.

So let's first separate legal and illegal.

Yeah, and to the point, yeah, because there's two separate stories here.

The creepy story, 16, 17, and 18-year-olds, he was in his 30s.

However,

and those stories are all him, like, I think kissing was as deep as that went.

Yes.

Right.

So, again, creepy, sure, if true, creepy.

A 32-year-old kissing a 17-year-old is just creepy.

There's something wrong with that guy.

It's very creepy, but it is

illegal behavior.

Not only today, but also, or not only then, but also today.

Yes.

Yes.

Most states, I think the age of consent is 16.

Yes.

So the three girls add to creepiness.

But the 14-year-old is illegal.

Now, the statute of limitations is up.

Long past.

Long past.

However, if you read this Washington Post story, it's riddled with,

I think, credibility.

It was early 1979, and

Moore, now the Republican nominee in Alabama for a U.S.

Senate seat, was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney.

He struck up a conversation with Korfman and her mother.

and offered to watch the girl while the mother went inside for a child custody hearing.

He said, oh, you don't want to go in there and hear all that.

I'll stay out here with her, confirms Korfman's mother at 71.

I thought, how nice of him that he wants to take care of my little girl.

Alone with Korfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number.

Days later, she said he picked her up around the corner from her house at Gadston, drove her for about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was, and kissed her.

On a second visit, she says he

took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes.

He touched her over her bra and underpants and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.

I wanted it over with.

I want it out, she remembers thinking.

Please just get this over with.

Whatever it is, just get it over.

Korfman says she asked Moore to take her home and he did.

Two of Korfman's childhood friends said she told him at the time that she was seeing an older man, and one says Korfman identified the man as Moore.

Wells says her daughter told her about the encounter more than a decade later as Moore was becoming more prominent as a local judge.

Aside from Korfman, three other women interviewed by the Washington Post in recent weeks say

they were pursued by him when they were ages 16 and through 18, and he was in his

early 30s.

Wendy Miller says she was 14.

Now listen to this.

She was 14 and working as Santa's little helper at the mall when Moore first approached her, and 16 when he asked her on dates, which her mother forbade.

Debbie Wesson-Gibson says she was 17 when Moore spoke at her high school civics class and asked her out for her first of several dates that did not progress beyond kissing.

Gloria Thatcher Deason said she was an 18-year-old cheerleader when Moore began taking her on dates.

And those dates included bottles of rose wine.

The legal drinking al uh in Alabama, legal drinking age was uh 19.

Um none of them said they had intercourse.

Only one said she had sexual

contact, and that was the one who was 14 at the time.

Now, more

said these allegations are completely false and are a desperate political attack by the National Democratic Party and the Washington Post on this campaign.

So

boiling this down, right?

Number one, if he was

touching a 14-year-old girl, I don't want them anywhere near the Senate, right?

I mean,

we don't know.

Obviously, he's denying it.

That's the accusation here.

There is a lot of detail in the article.

It would be very, I think, difficult to completely fake it.

But again, when you're in a, only one person or only two people were in that room at that time, it's difficult to go back 30 years and decipher what exactly happened.

Here you have to have, here, this is a conspiracy.

It's not one person coming out and saying this happened.

This would have to be a conspiracy.

The daughter, the mother, and the friends that were told at the time need to be able to

all have their story together and have a reason to lie.

And they interviewed them multiple times and their stories remained consistent.

You know, so that is what the, I guess, the journalistic standard is on this.

And it's, it's, it's, did they tell someone at the time about it?

And if that person remembers it, and which, which they have people who, yeah, she, I remember her telling me about that when I was 14 or 15, that is kind of the way that they're confirming this.

You know, I will say, like, when I read that story, it is pretty detailed and convincing and well reported.

And I, to, if you ask me, do I think it's true based on the report itself?

To me, it seems like it probably was true, or at least something close to it was true.

The problem is,

and this is just a general hesitation we should have as a society and a conversation we should have, is the correct standard for removing people from their lives and ruining their lives and their careers is the correct standard whether it convinces you in a newspaper.

Is that the process that we're going to go through?

to make this happen.

If that is the case, we are reversing a long-standing tradition in this country, which has gone from innocent until proven guilty to guilty until proven guilty.

And I know it's not a legal standard, but it's an important one.

Right.

And

there is no legal

recourse here.

The statute of limitations.

I've never seen one point.

There isn't now.

Right.

There isn't now.

I mean, it's way too late.

It's way too late.

It's late.

For this.

She can't even sue over it.

Right.

But there is, I mean, you know, there's just so much.

He liked Eddie Rabbit and I liked Freddie Mercury.

Moore would pick her up for dates at the mall or the basketball games where she was a cheerleader.

She remembers changing out of her uniform before they went out for dinners at a pizzeria called Maters, where she says Moore would order bottles of rosé or at a Chinese restaurant where he would order her tropical cocktails at the time when she believed she was younger than 19, the legal drinking age.

If mother had known that, she would have had a hissy fit.

Blah, blah, blah.

I mean, it just,

there's just a lot of detail in this.

I happen to believe this.

I happen to believe this.

But is that the right standard?

And I don't think that, because I mean, put this in,

let's say we're giving, we're granting this power to the media.

Okay.

Let's just say we are, and we're all comfortable with it.

Again, if this guy did this, I don't want him anywhere near the Senate.

And honestly, he should have been in prison at the time.

This is a crime.

It was a crime then.

It's a crime now.

So if he did these things, we're all, I think, 100% in agreement there.

And that's not something to just brush over.

But

if we are going to grant journalists the power to interview people, and if it seems believable to them, as it did to Rolling Stone when they were talking about

the university that was a UVA, that whole case, as it was to the people who covered the Duke La Crosse case, if we're going to give power to these people to not even go through that process, it's not a one-year debate about whether this person did this thing or not.

It is the report comes out, Louis C.K., the report comes out, his movie's canceled, period, over.

The Amazon guy, there's a report that he talked to a woman inappropriately at a party a couple of years ago, career over.

Okay, so that's, but that's different than this.

This is,

you know, Harvey Weinstein.

You know, there's charges of rape there.

This is

a charge of

statutory rape.

Even though he didn't rape her, it was illegal on so many levels.

He would have gone to prison for 10 years.

Had he been convicted of this,

if they would have brought charges, I think he would have.

I think that law was not in place until after this.

I think the law that would have put him in jail for 10 years was passed later.

So

he would have gone to jail.

It was definitely illegal.

Yeah.

It was illegal for him to even bring her to a place to want to have sex.

There's a lot that.

Yeah, there's a...

I mean, so he broke the law.

If it happened, again, he's denying it

Yes, however

This is this see this is putting us in impossible situations.

This is why we didn't design the legal system like this.

This is why we didn't say but I believe him

have everyone tell stories and then everyone will vote on whether like no that is it's it's it's supposed to be an illegal environment and this is why if anything else comes from this because we may we may we're gonna throw 90% of these people that we're gonna we're gonna ruin their lives.

They're probably probably all dirtbags and should go to prison right like that's probably at the end of this That's probably the truth and there probably will be a couple people Caught up in this that didn't do something wrong and we're gonna ruin them anyway But if nothing else if by the end of this we can convince people that the appropriate thing to do if you are sexually assaulted is to go to the police immediately And if we can make that because then we can gather evidence and we can present cases and we don't have to think about what may have happened 30 and 40 years ago.

Yes.

We can actually prosecute the case through the legal system with legal standards and that is the way the society is designed.

I just want to be consistent.

That's that's that's I want to be consistent.

People say that

you know, well, Bill O'Reilly.

Well,

I have different information, personal information from Bill O'Reilly.

I have a relationship with Bill.

I happen to believe him.

And the two big ones that everybody talks about, those were consensual relationships.

Once you have a consensual relationship, breakups and everything can be ugly.

So I don't want to judge it.

I don't know.

I don't know.

And I happen to believe him on that.

If he's wrong, I will absolutely correct the record and condemn him.

And to emphasize that point, I don't think you haven't believed any of the other stories from any of the other people we've been talking about.

None of them.

I think you've got to.

I don't believe Roy Moore here.

I believe the girls on Roy Moore.

But,

you know, so now what do you do?

And if we're going to say Kevin Spacey, out,

we have to say Roy Moore, out.

That's the problem here.

We have to be consistent.

If we believe the story, then we have to say out.

Now, here's the problem of consistency.

Play Breitbart, please.

This is Steve bannon yesterday on roy more listen to this

but it's interesting the bezos amazon washington post that dropped that dime on donald trump is the same bezos amazon washington post that dropped the dime this afternoon on judge roy moore

now is that a coincidence okay

that's what i mean i mean yeah they're

opposition running they've also been hammering harvey Weinstein and several part of the apparatus.

Okay, stop.

And what he's doing is he is now saying, hey, we don't know.

We believe Roy Moore.

This is just a political hack job.

Well, I don't know.

Now, listen, Roy Moore is accused of

trying to

have sex with a 14-year-old.

That's the accusation.

There was somebody else who didn't, wasn't accused of doing it, was actually accused of being or was known as a victim of somebody doing this.

And the same Steve Bannon fired him when he said this.

Listen.

This is the Milo, Milo, Miannopoulos audio.

This arbitrary and oppressive idea of consent, which totally destroys, you know, the

understanding that many of us have of the complexities and subtleties and complicated nature of many relationships.

You know, people are messy and complex.

And actually, in a homosexual world, particularly, some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming-of-age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and

a reliable.

We don't even hear anymore.

Steve Bannon fired him immediately because that was reprehensible to say that somebody could take a 14-year-old and show them love, and it was a coming-of-age story.

We all know that's reprehensible.

He didn't do it.

He just defended it, and Steve Bannon fired him.

Now there's a credible story about somebody on Steve Bannon's side that

is accusing him in a very credible way of actually doing that,

and Steve Bannon is defending it.

For one, I just can't take the inconsistency.

We have to be consistent.

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Okay, America, you have another choice to make.

Isn't this fun?

I like trying people in the media.

Is Roy Moore a pedophile or a political target?

Yesterday, the Washington Post alleged that in 1979, when Moore was a single 32-year-old prosecutor in Alabama, he invited a 14-year-old girl to his house where they had sexual contact, although it wasn't intercourse.

This according to the woman, Moore is currently running against Democrat Doug Jones in a December 12th special election for the U.S.

Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

The Washington Post interviewed four women who said that they dated Moore in the late 1970s when they were teenagers and he was in his early 30s.

One of the women, Leah Korfman, says that Moore drove her to his house on two different occasions, and under Alabama law, the contact she said happened on the second visit would be considered a felony, a sentence up to 10 years in prison.

At the time, the age of consent was, and it still is today, 16.

Korfman never filed a police report, never filed a civil suit, so the statute of limitations has long since expired.

However, all of them, all of their mothers knew about this,

at least within five years of the incident, and they have many people that they told at the time when they were kids.

The other three women were between the ages of 16 and 18 when they say that Moore took them out on dates.

All three say nothing ever happened except occasional kissing,

except for the first girl.

There was touching.

In 1985, Moore married Kayla Kaiser.

He was 38, she was 24, and they're still married.

Moore has won elections in Alabama before, and none of this has ever come out.

Moore's question is, why now?

If this was a problem, why didn't it come out now?

This has been known since,

apparently, since 1979 by these girls.

The special election is one month away, and the stakes are high, and the Democrats badly need this Senate seat.

But, on the other hand, why now?

It could be that the culture has changed, and perhaps these women are motivated by the idea that they are more likely to be believed now.

Some are arguing that this is a last-minute smear campaign.

However, the Washington Post story is convincing.

The reporters, four of them, say they interviewed more than 30 people for the story, and there are a lot of details.

If Korfman's allegation is true, it is way beyond just creepy.

It was also against the law, and Moore should drop out of the race.

Donald Trump said the same on his trip to Asia.

One more thing is clear.

Some of Moore's supporters aren't really helping the situation.

Alabama state auditor Jim Ziegler said, well, take Joseph and Mary.

Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter.

Okay, well, let me, first of all,

Joseph wasn't the one having sex with Mary.

God didn't even have sex with Mary.

Although I will point out that the age difference between Mary and God was significant.

It was a virgin birth.

Ziegler continued, there's just nothing immoral or illegal here, maybe just a little bit unusual.

If true,

unusual is the least of his worries.

It's Friday, November 10th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

I have to tell you,

we're at the threshold of a new world.

And

this is the way the world is

shaping up to be in the future.

I mean,

I'm reading a lot of science

right now to try to catch up on high tech.

And I will tell you, the world is just not going to be the same in 10 years.

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Remember when I said to you 10, 15 years ago, you're going to wake up in a world and you won't recognize it at all?

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And we

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Unfortunately, the entire world is geared

to not having deeper conversations.

I happen to believe the

14-year-old girl's story and the 16, 17, and 18-year-old girls and their stories.

They're not alleging.

The 16, 17, and 18-year-old girls are not alleging anything other than it was creepy at the time, but their mothers were involved.

One of their, you know, I think the 17-year-old, Morrid approached the mom and the mom had said, you know, you're kind of, you know, raiding the cradle here, so I'm not really comfortable with it.

I mean, so

this was just, I mean, it was weird.

It's weird.

I don't think you get to be, as a culture, a culture who,

you know, the left is going to, you know, defend a culture in which you're allowed to be in porn at 18.

But this kissing that happened in 1979 is so offensive, you must pull these people out.

I think there's the 16, 17, 18 are all legal and

past the age of consent.

And while creepy, there's no, there's not even

being alleged there.

I don't like it.

I would recommend if your daughter was involved, you know, at 17 years old with a guy who's 30, you're out of your mind.

However, you know,

let's understand.

We've got some real, I mean, we are

split personality.

I mean,

you look at the models, and some of them are 12 and 13 years old, and we're holding them up as sex symbols.

Look at

how many sex symbols has Disney pumped out that are 16 years old and, you know,

become,

you know, what's her name?

Britney Spears, dressed as the schoolgirl.

So don't tell me about how we sexualize people, because media, please.

Hollywood, please.

However.

The moms were involved in the three, not on the 14-year-old.

And that's the one that is of issue.

I happen to believe that story because you notice she doesn't say,

it's not that he raped her.

She didn't say that, you know, he kept her against her will.

She said, I asked to go home.

I was uncomfortable, and he took me home.

She could have made this much worse.

Sure, if it was completely, you're saying if it wasn't, it was completely bogus.

She could have made this much, much worse for him.

And I happen to believe it.

The problem is, and I want to talk about,

can we have an adult conversation here where we compartmentalize things?

Let's have the conversation here of

14-year-old girl.

I believe her.

This is wrong.

If it's true, he should step down.

I believe her.

And Donald Trump said the same thing.

If it's true, he should step down.

Yes.

I'm uncomfortable with him, and I'm uncomfortable with the people that we're sending to Washington, you know, or we're watching in Hollywood.

So I think it's wrong.

Period.

End of story.

Now let's talk about the future because these are going to get more and more and eventually they're not going to mean anything.

And eventually, whether this one is political smear or not, I don't know.

But how are we going to know?

We're entering a world where reporters can get together and say, well, well, we've done this and we've done that.

You know, I know that there are people that will pay for people to tear down.

When it comes to the Senate, do you not think that there would be people that could pay people to testify the other way?

Of course.

And that's why, to me, the least credible time to bring up an accusation like this is

in a moment right before an election.

And that's why I think, honestly, I think people are like, oh, people don't care that Donald Trump did all these things.

I think most people just didn't buy that he did them because you know what?

The president of the United States thing was on the line.

The presidency of the United States, the most powerful job in the world, was on the line.

And we had a flood of people accusing Donald Trump of various things.

And I think most people just said, well, it's hard to, I can't separate the political stuff from

the real accusation.

And there is the other side of it that is nefarious that says, I want my side to win.

I'll disregard things that I would

disregard.

Absolutely.

But as you said, you believe this person, and I think there's a lot of credibility here.

We know some of the reporters that have broken these stories, and they're good people, and they're trying really hard to get the right story out.

So it is a lot of, and a lot of this stuff is really important that it's being done.

But we have to look at

the precedent we're setting, which is, what if the next reporter isn't a good person?

What if the next reporter isn't,

what if the next reporter is Walter Duranty or Jason Blair or someone who decides they want to take someone down and brings up fake details?

Okay, so

let me give you the story or Stu, you give the story of Walter Duranty because

this is a really good example.

This guy changed the course of history with lies.

And he worked for the New York Times.

He said, talking about the Holodomor, which is the famine in Ukraine, the Soviets killed 7 million people.

7 million people in 12 months.

They starved the entire Ukraine to death.

It is one of the most horrific things.

If you think the rounding up of Jews was bad,

and you should, yeah.

That happened over a five-year period.

The Soviets killed 7 million in one year.

In one in one year.

It's one of the worst thing that's ever happened on the planet.

Walter Duranti, New York Times reporting of that.

There is no famine or actual starvation, nor is there likely to be.

Any report of famine in Russia today is an exaggeration or malignant propaganda.

You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.

There's no actual starvation or deaths from starvation, but there is widespread mortality from diseases due to malnutrition.

It's an interesting way of parsing that.

The point here is, though,

not that any of these reporters are like that.

I mean, all we're saying

is the next one, the future.

I mean, you know what?

We do know some aren't like that.

Like, for example, at Rolling Stone, we know that people do have these incidents where they make things up or they believe things without enough proof.

They don't follow up enough.

They just are convinced.

They're right.

They're convinced they're right.

And you know what?

The larger point, and we've heard this from the people who produced the Rolling Stone.

The larger point is still true.

It doesn't, yeah, that one didn't wind up turning right, but the larger point is still true.

And the person who thinks the larger point is, you know, a Republican is a dirtbag and they're hypocrites very well might jump to this conclusion.

Or the person who thinks that Hollywood's a bunch of dirtbags, easily a rep any any actor right now could be swallowed up in one of these things with one accusation and do we want to give anyone the I the power to be able to destroy a life because of a couple of accusations they put in the newspaper I don't think that's the appropriate standard while I sit here and read that Washington Post report and believe that it's probably true the idea that me thinking it's probably true is the standard of ruining someone's career or changing the course of history is not an appropriate standard.

We have to try, if nothing else, to convince people to come forward as close to the time as they can humanly do it.

Because then you can have an actual legal proceeding.

You can have these things go through a court system.

You can have some evidence other than people's words from decades ago.

So here's a bad way to run this.

Let me give you two things here.

One, Duranti is a really good example of what could come.

I'm not saying this is happening in the media now.

I'm saying it could come.

Once everyone understands in the media that, well, man, you just make this charge and it kills a career,

you've set up something really, really dangerous.

And people like Duranty, who Duranty was a fan of communism.

He believed

the ends justify the means.

And so you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.

He knew, he went over, he knew that there was the Holded Moor going on.

He tried to convince the American people and he did it.

He convinced the American people that there was nothing going on because

it's right, it's right.

And yes, they're making some mistakes, but it's right.

So he justified it in his own head.

As Stu said, we are living in a world where Antifa

is being held up by the press, even though their slogan is, by any means necessary.

The ends justify the means?

By any means necessary.

Do we have to crack a few eggs?

Do we have to destroy a few innocent people?

By any means necessary.

That is the most anti-un-American thing you can ever come up with.

We are not a system of by any means necessary.

It is why I have a problem with Donald Trump meeting with the Russians and Hillary Clinton getting her information from the Russians.

No,

you do opposition research, okay, but not by any means necessary.

Now, the second thing, I want to share a story, a true story, as a warning to Hollywood, before you eat your own,

you better slow down.

Get rid of the bad guys.

And

I believe the stories that are coming out, but you're setting a dangerous precedent and you've done it before.

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Can I ask you, Stu,

before we get into this

really cool story of history, you had never heard this story before, had you?

No, no.

It's amazing, isn't it?

Yeah, it is.

We'll share that here in just a second.

A warning from the past.

But can I ask you, how did Mo Brooks lose?

I don't know.

Well, I mean, I don't know.

You know, I mean, Breitbart wanted Roy Moore, and Steve Bannon wanted Roy Moore.

Donald Trump endorsed, to Trump's credit, and this was his worry, and this is the White House's worry with Roy Moore.

It's not that they knew about the 14-year-old thing, but they knew he was a risk.

They knew that this seat was going to be put at risk.

Mo Brooks was the guy who was saving people at the softball game when they were shooting.

He's the guy who was resuscitating people.

A real conservative, whose most recent burst in the news was saving people's lives at a mass shooting.

And he lost somehow.

How did he lose?

And I mean, that's unbelievable.

I mean, anyway.

That was who we really thought would be best for that seat.

And, you know,

Luther Strange was, you know, a little bit too establishment for me.

Roy Moore is not my guy.

Yeah.

And wasn't my guy, you know, before this 14-year-old thing.

I mean, that's why we thought Mo Brooks would be great.

I mean, he's got a really good record.

He's a real conservative.

He ran for that seat and came in third.

Whatever.

The people have spoken.

Now the thing is,

you have to ask yourself,

you know, is this true?

Is this true?

And I don't accept.

Wow, come on.

That was a long time ago.

I'm sorry.

I don't accept that.

I don't.

But,

you know, that's for him to decide and the people to decide.

And someone just pointed this out.

You mentioned how detailed Moore's accusers' claims are.

What's equally striking is how unspecific his denial is.

Does he know this woman?

Have they ever met?

Someone posted this yesterday.

I thought it was a good point.

Look at the accusation on Sean Hannity and how Hannity

dealt with that.

It was absolutely not.

I will prove it.

And it went away because he was really credible in his denial.

This doesn't seem to be the same standard.

Glenn Beck.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So I just want to remind Hollywood of their own history and the history between Hollywood and the media

with a guy named Fatty Arbuckle, Roscoe Arbuckle.

This is a guy who has fascinated me my whole life because, I mean, you've heard the name Fatty Arbuckle before, most likely.

How?

Why?

Why do you know his name?

If I said to you, name silent movie stars, it would most likely be Charlie Chaplin.

And we've all seen Charlie Chaplin.

But if I said Fatty Arbuckle, you probably wouldn't say that name.

But if I said it, you'd go, oh, yeah, he's a silent movie star.

Why would you know that?

He was famous in the teens, the 1900s, the early 1900s, silent movies.

Well, he was huge, and I don't mean in just the physical sense.

He was a huge comedian

and beloved and known as a really good guy.

Well,

he had a party in 1920.

This is after Prohibition.

He had a party at a hotel

because

he actually had

grill marks on his butt after filming.

I don't know if they were trying to do a flapjack thing with him or what, but he had to take some time off because his butt had second-degree burns on it after this filming.

And

so he and the cast and everybody, they just rented a few rooms at this hotel.

There was a woman who he was charged with raping at this party and killing.

And it was a massive, massive scandal.

It was somebody that he claimed who got sick.

He saw her in the adjoining room, got sick.

She was vomiting blood.

He took her to the bed.

He then called for the doctor to come.

He took some ice because she was holding her stomach and put the ice on her stomach.

And everybody agreed with all of this until she died the next day or two days later.

She was seen by the doctor.

The doctor said she was just really, really drunk and

everything else.

Well, she had a condition

that

screwed up her stomach every time that she drank.

She also had looked like bladder cancer later, it was found out.

And she also had six abortions, and they believe she had just had another abortion right before that

well they claimed that uh fatty had uh raped her and then he was so heavy he burst her bladder

she was conscious when she talked to the doctor never said anything like that

Well, the newspapers got a hold of that.

And as it turns out, some people were bribed to say some things that weren't true about Fatty Arbuckle.

Then Hollywood immediately pulled all of his films.

They even started a campaign to destroy all of his films within a year, burn all of his films.

He went to trial.

The first two trials were a hung jury until he realized that this is not going to end.

And they had already, one of the women who was one of the women who testified against him was now on this money-making tour about the evils of Hollywood and immorality.

And he decided,

I'm done.

I am absolutely done here.

We've got to fight with everything we have.

So he went and he testified and he testified exactly and the truth came out and it was

unanimous not guilty.

He never recovered from this.

Even though the jury from the jury box, when they read the not guilty, they said, we'd like to make a statement.

You read the statement, and it was like, This is beyond a wrong done to him.

This needs to be corrected and make sure it never happens to him again.

And everyone should recognize what they had done.

But the problem was the press got it, and William Randolph Hearst had started to really

play with the.

They took the bag of ice that he put and then said that he had taken ice and used it as a phallic

device and was using that on her.

And by the time it made it to the press, it was a champagne bottle that he was using.

All lies.

All lies.

Fatty Arbuckle never recovered from it.

And it's one of the worst wrongs that had been done in Hollywood.

We have to be careful.

not to be lynch mobs.

And the lynch mob, it may not be happening yet, but it's very likely to happen in the future if we don't, if we're not careful.

I found out about a group called Reservists on Duty.

It's an organization created because of the military experience and the encounters with the far left that

anti-Semitic organizations

are using to attack Israel and the members of the IDF.

And

these are becoming very, very powerful groups, and you just can't...

You just can't stand up and tell the truth of what you know about Israel.

So these reservists have come together and they

have served on active duty in various combat positions.

These are not Jews.

These are Christians and Muslims and I believe atheists that are standing up and saying, wait a minute, none of that is true.

We have Amit Derry.

He is the executive director of Reservists on Duty.

Amit, how are you?

Good morning, Ben.

Thank you for having me.

You bet.

Okay, so tell me, tell me exactly what you guys are going out and doing.

So, yeah, Reservists on Duty is a group of former Israeli soldiers.

There is the Jews also there, by the way, a lot of them Americans who today lives in Israel, but also a lot of minorities that live in Israel.

You probably know in Israel we have Muslims, we have Druze, we have Bedouins, we have Christians, we even have Palestinians, and a lot of them are willing to come and speak in favor of Israel on college campuses.

And our goal is to fight BDS anti-Semitic groups, hate groups actually, that works on campus.

And you mentioned, by the way, that those groups are anti-Israel, but I can tell you that they are actually anti-American.

They are anti-everything.

They anti-the Western world.

Yes.

And

our group actually is coming first to expose those groups on campus, to educate and to give tools for Jewish students and non-Jewish students how to speak about Israel, to refute the lies and the blood labels that those guys are spreading all over the place.

And that's reservist on duty.

We are usually coming

when they are producing, you probably know, Glenn, that they are producing a week.

a whole week against Israel called the Israeli apartheid week.

You can find that in, I think, in every college campus in America.

You have a week against Israel.

They build a big wall, they call it the apartheid wall,

which means the separation wall that we have here in Israel.

They're building a wall with a lot of quotes and a lot of lies, and they are actually for the whole week spreading lies and misinformation and disinformation, pure anti-Semitism against Israel and against

the Jewish people.

Okay, so a couple of things.

So a couple of things.

So you can contact you, I would imagine,

and ask for you guys to come and speak at the college.

I think having a Palestinian speak is really powerful

in speaking in defense of Israel.

What is the reception that you're getting at these campuses?

Actually, this is our main challenge.

We have a lot of people.

All of them are volunteers.

And our main challenge is to, we need more people to invite us.

We are not just, you know, coming and show up in the middle of campus.

So, we need groups, more groups, Jewish groups, Christian groups,

conservative groups that will invite us to speak on campus.

So,

I invite your audience and the people who are listening to us now to invite us to their college campus.

We will come with all of the best speakers.

And you said, you mentioned the Palestinian guy.

I can tell you it's not easy for those speakers.

I know.

We just came back from two weeks tour in the United States with

a minorities group, one Christian, one Arab, one Muslim girl, one Bedouin and one Palestinian, and they experienced a physical attack.

Freedom of speech today in America, I think, is under fire.

I think you know that better than me.

And those guys,

two weeks ago, they gave a speech on a synagogue,

not in a college campus, in a synagogue in New York, Lincoln Square Synagogue.

And in the middle of the speech,

ten Palestinians, probably Palestinians, Muslims, sneak into the building, into the synagogue, and started to shout and yell and scream and curse in every possible language inside the synagogue and try to physically attack the Palestinian speaker.

It's drive them crazy when Arabs, when Muslims, Christians, Bedouins speak in favor of Israel.

So

I think if this drives them crazy, we're doing the right thing.

And we want to bring those guys more and more to the state.

And I invite people to invite us to come and speak.

As sick as our universities are right now, and all of the things that they're doing that are, you know, not up to what we've kind of thought of as real American foundational principles over the years, there's really, I don't think, anything that seems to get our universities more angry than people saying positive things about Israel.

Is that just the sort of dark themes that have gone throughout history when it comes to the Jewish people?

Is that an American military argument?

Why do you think that is?

I think, you know, the core,

the essence is anti-Semitism.

If you look for the leaders of those groups,

most of them are

Muslims that immigrated to the States.

And you know, it's not about sixty-seven borders.

It's not about a peace agreement with the Palestinians.

They want us out.

They want the Jews, the Jewish people, out from the State of Israel.

And

when we are coming on college campuses,

you can always see that this is not only about Israel.

It's also against conservative speakers who are coming to college campuses.

It's all the speakers who are not going with

the mainstream, with what the, by the way, most of the administrations on college campuses want to hear,

you are not welcome.

Nobody will give pro-Israeli groups to do a hate week, a little hate week, like the Israeli apartheid week that those guys are producing.

Nobody in the administration will let us to do a week.

even not anti- even in favor of Israel.

Nobody will let us do that.

And the administrations on college campuses are backing those students.

I can tell you, we just experienced the same, like I told you in the synagogue, we experienced the same a week ago in Minnesota,

in the campus.

Minnesota State University.

When you guys speak or ask to speak,

does it cost the organization inviting you anything to bring you over?

No money.

No.

We don't charge a penny.

We want to do that because we believe in what we are doing.

And all of our

activists are volunteer.

There's a lot of people who are passionate for Israel here and want to do that because we understand now.

And I think, by the way, Glenn, I think we understand it

too late, unfortunately.

Yes.

Those guys started back in the 80s.

All right, so

how does somebody get in touch with you?

Yeah, so we have a website on duty, in one word, on duty.org.il, and all the details and all of our information, contact information and our activities and videos on the website.

Okay, it's on duty.org.il.

Don't forget the dot I L.

Onduty.org.il.

Amit,

we'll talk to you again, and we hope to see you the next time you're in the United States.

Thank you for what you're doing.

Thank you again.

I want to thank you and your audience for all of your support for the state of Israel, for the IDF.

I can tell you that a lot of people here in Israel listening to your radio shows and podcasts, and we don't take it for granted.

So thank you very much.

Thank you, Amit.

I appreciate it.

God bless you.

I don't think there's anything more important,

quite honestly, spiritually, than you can do than

support the state of Israel and stand up for what you know to be true.

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Armadillos, Your Economy, Abortion, Haiti, Star Parker, Pat Gray, all coming up next hour.

It's jam-packed, and some might say a little schizophrenic.

But we don't think.

We think we can put Star Parker in armadillos in the same half hour, and it'll still work.

And you be the judge next.

Glenn back.

Love.

Courage.

Truth.

Glenn Beck.

You know, some people

accomplish big things in life.

And

let's look at comedian Louis C.K.

He's one of those people.

He's written jokes for David Letterman, Conan O'Brien, Dana Carvey, and Chris Rock.

He's won six Emmy Awards.

He has sold out Madison Square Gardens,

Madison Square Garden eight times.

This week, his first film in 16 years, set to premiere.

But it was abruptly canceled due to unexpected circumstances.

The unexpected circumstance

may not have been that unexpected.

It was an article published in the New York Times describing five women and their accusations against Louis C.K.'s

sexual misconduct.

The allegations

all detail the same kind of behavior of him basically saying,

I'd like to do my solo act in front of you.

Now,

this wouldn't come as a surprise to anybody who's ever listened to Louis C.K.'s stand-up because he jokes about his solo performances and getting women to

want to watch that.

In one bit, he even admits that he he is a prisoner to his perverse thoughts and that it makes him into a moron.

Okay.

He's been using the stage as a confessional for years, as most comedians do.

What Luis E.K.

is accused of is gross, perplexing,

completely understandable, at least by me, for a myriad of reasons.

Did he do these things?

Well, he hasn't commented yet, but these incidents have been rumored for a long time.

There are more questions than answers at this point, but here's what we know.

We need to empower women to say no.

You know, no, I'm not comfortable with you doing that.

We need to empower them to tell their stories at the time that it happens and know that they will be taken seriously, not believed.

but listened to and taken seriously.

And we need to teach men to be men, to live up to a moral standard, to, I don't know, reach above your solo act

and put your animal instincts aside and become a man.

Oh, and one other thing: don't ask women if they want to see you do stuff to yourself, because trust me, it's not that I'm just old and flabby.

Even when I was young and non-flabby, they don't want to see it.

It's Friday, November 10th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Swear to you,

it's like I woke up in a parallel universe.

I cannot believe the conversations that we have to have today as a society.

Even polite society.

There is no such thing as polite society anymore.

I want to play some audio.

we played for you earlier this week.

This was actually from a hearing on H.R.

490, the Heartbeat Protection Act of 2017.

And Star Parker was testifying in front of Congress.

And man,

is she brave?

Listen to this.

But if you also consider in your deliberations regarding H.R.

490, the last time in American history that we were faced with hard constitutional and political questions on the civil conflict between humanity and convenience, personhood and property, justice and public opinion.

Slavery was, as abortion is, a crime against humanity.

Like slavery, tensions were created in a public square and in law concerning who qualified for natural rights worthy of protection.

In the first 89 years of our nation's existence, it was the black slave who sought freedom and equal protection under the law, and many attempts were made to heed their cry.

Today, it is the conceived person living in the womb of its mother that should be considered human with opportunity of equal protection under the law.

It is ironic that while the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution in 1868 humanized slaves, the United States Supreme Court of 1973 dehumanized the life of the being in utero,

handing down a decision that reeked in ethnic cleansing to once again allow a powerful few to determine exactly who had a right to humanity.

Star Parker is with us now.

How much heat are you getting, getting, Star Parker?

Well, thank you, Glenn, to have me on.

And frankly, that's the first interview.

You are the first to actually place some of what I said in the testimony.

Shut up.

Mostly because of what happened after.

No, seriously.

So I'm listening to it and saying, oh, so I did make my points.

No, what happened during the Q ⁇ A,

I answered a question and then referred back to some of the discussion that was earlier.

One of the congressmen, we call him now Congressman Coward Cohen, and

because he kept throwing in welfare programs into the discussion, but he wasn't the only one.

So did a protester during the time that they were actually showing an ultrasound in the hearing room, first in the history of the country.

You'd think it would be a front page news that they actually showed a ultrasound of a live in the womb child

in a congressional hearing.

But that said, so I then answered and addressed his

comments about welfare and trying to, you know, delude what we were talking about and called it disingenuous to combine the two issues.

And he lit into me.

I mean, he called me ignorant.

He told me that I didn't know how to address the Congress.

After the hearing was over, he came up and put his finger on my face and told me I better come to his office and apologize.

So all of that, so that's what went viral.

So what really got lost, and I really appreciate you playing that, is the actual testimony.

This is very serious business, what we've been doing.

You know, I have to tell you, Star, I am so sick of the back and forth viral bites that have nothing to do.

I'm sorry, but you, and they will, call me ignorant as well.

Arguing about welfare programs when it comes to abortion is exactly the same as

arguing for slavery because it will destroy the economy and people will suffer.

Right.

Well, and that's why I had to address it, even though maybe I was a little out of order because he didn't ask me a specific question, but I wasn't addressing him.

I was addressing the chairman who did ask me a question, chairman of the subcommittee for the judiciary on constitution and civil justice.

When, you know, getting to what you're discussing earlier and how it's unbelievable the things that we have to now discuss in the public square when children are listening because of the sexual matters that are coming onto the front pages, and yet they're rooted in this abortion question.

When you kill in the womb, what we're doing in abortion, let's even set aside for one moment the moral, the medical, and the mental implications to abortion.

Abortion feeds a narrative that women are just victims.

They can't control their impulses.

They can't, as you said, learn how to say no when things are inappropriate and find the language to say, excuse me, sir, but this is not appropriate, and so I'm leaving the room right now.

And it's because it feeds that narrative that you can't control your sexual impulses.

And so now people are sexually out of control.

That's why marriage has collapsed.

That's why adam marriage births have escalated.

And we, as a nation, better get a grip on this.

Otherwise, we're going to always have discussions about sexual matters in somebody else and the accusations that are coming forth that we don't even know if are true.

Like what just happened to the candidate who 40 years earlier, someone saying, aha, this is what you said to me.

Who remembers what they said 40 years ago?

So, Star,

how do we

we are entering a time and we you know we have the oldest Congress in the history of the United States.

This is the oldest Congress ever

and

we are on the edge of profound technological change that is going to make us question what life even is.

And I don't mean is it life in the womb?

That's a pretty easy one.

Yeah.

I I mean, if it's a puppy when it's in the dog's womb, it's a child when it's in the human's womb.

We're entering a time now where we're going to have to define life with AI,

and that's going to screw everything up.

How do we get to a point to where we can have rational discussions that must be had now?

That is a million-dollar question.

But Jimmy, you just brought up a fascinating point that I'm going to have to contemplate and think about later about the oldest Congress.

Because you would think, and there would be deep passion since they're in their senior years to argue for the most innocent in the room because they're next.

A couple of states have already passed youth amnesia.

We're starting to,

as a culture, collapse when it comes to protecting the innocent, understanding what the Constitution really means.

But how do we get there?

We may have to start over.

It's why I I fight so hard for school choice.

We're going to have to, again, build a moral framework within our youth.

And the only way to do that is get them out of these cesspools we call schools that indoctrinate them in secularism and put them in schools where they're building moral framework and integrity.

The only ones that are really trapped now in failing government schools are the very poor, the most vulnerable, who are getting lost in all of this noise, and that's why their lives are in moral chaos.

So, how do we get that?

You replace everybody in Congress.

I was surprised that after McCain lost

the presidency when he ran, that he didn't just retire even at that age.

What is he still doing there?

Why hasn't he passed the batons of younger energy and now raking havoc even over his own?

The whole thing may get to the place that we were in the 1850s to where we just can't go on anymore and could end up in a real difficult dilemma.

I think we're headed that direction.

Star, it's interesting.

Your commentary was really interesting in talking about abortion as it relates to slavery.

And I think a lot of people

assign their sort of moral decision-making on difficult topics like this to society.

And so I think even back in the day, a lot of people who probably, if they really stopped and thought about it, would think slavery is crazy.

It's a crazy idea.

But since society said it was accepted and it was legal, people sort of just went around, went along with it.

It was a controversial issue, maybe, but they didn't want to talk about it in polite company.

Is that what you're seeing?

Is that the same thing now?

Because I think a lot of people who, it's not people who, you know, are necessarily horrible people, but they want to avoid the tough sort of moral

examination of themselves to really think about whether this is right or wrong.

That's right.

And not only on abortion, on many issues.

But you're absolutely right.

The same conversations we're having today.

And in fact, one of the things I also said in that testimony is if you put Roby Wade next to Dred Scott, they read almost verbatim.

They're both talking about property.

They're both talking about

the rights of the person who has.

The rhetoric we hear from the left, even on abortion, well,

if you don't like it, don't have one.

That's the same thing they were saying during slavery.

Well, you don't have to own one.

And remember, very few own slaves.

Now, the narrative of the left is every white person is guilty of slavery because all of them had one.

No, that is not true.

Slavery was an elite.

You had some money to own a slave.

And so they were.

Anyway, so it was very controversial, but you're right that the silent majority allowed this country to go 89 years and then enter into a civil war because they just didn't have the courage to speak up.

You're absolutely right.

They knew it was wrong.

And then every time the Congress tried to manipulate around it, the same way we're hearing manipulations now around abortion.

Well, maybe we just won't let it into the Western state.

Well, maybe we can just pass this little act over here.

Maybe we can.

No, if it's a crime against humanity, you shouldn't be doing it and you should do everything you can to stop it.

And that's where we are, even with the abortion question today, exactly where we were with the question of slavery back in the day.

Does it amaze you that Margaret Sanger and all of the eugenicists back then that were trying to wipe out the black race, openly wipe them out,

are so

seemingly celebrated as friends of the black community now that that's what they're standing up for?

Oh, no, we're just trying to help the poor inner city black woman.

It's crazy.

On Halloween, they tweeted out their real agenda.

Black women have abortion because you're safer than having a child.

It's crazy.

The first black president of the country goes to Planned Parenthood's annual celebration.

The way they kill off black children in this country, 20 million blacks have died in the womb of their mom since Roe v.

Wade.

And he goes, and not only does he go, then he says, God bless you.

Yeah,

it's amazing how blinded people are to these facts.

How is it that we allow ourselves to be complicit in abortion with Planned Parenthood by allowing them to get corporate welfare year after year at $520 million?

Is what they're getting.

In fact, everyone you know, everyone that's listening to us, everyone they know, everyone they know, everyone they know probably 10 times may as well just hand the money straight to Planned Parenthood because it still wouldn't equal $520 million.

And for some reason, we want corporate welfare out of here, but that billion-dollar corporation gets $520 million tax dollars every year to do their primary business, which is to kill offspring.

Star, thank you so much.

God bless.

Thank you.

Star Parker is the founder and president of the Center for Urban Renewal and Education.

You can get her on Twitter at urban cure, urbancure or urbancure.org.

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Glenn back.

All right.

Jason Patrille is with us.

He did something with his family last year that we want to remind you because it's a really great thing that he was actually kind of, I think you were a little disgruntled, you know, when you were assigned this last week or last year.

And you were like, oh, it is.

And you started doing it with your kids and you loved it.

Right.

So good Christmas thing.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I thought you were going to send me to get shot at somewhere.

So I was like, yeah, but no, we went to Haiti and we got invited out there by Cross Catholic Outreach.

And they have this awesome, really, really cool program.

It's called Box of Joy.

And they go, what they do is they...

have you get your family and you pack up toys, you pack up like anything, anything really that you can think of that kids may need.

And you pack that up.

And this is actually going on

this weekend.

If you pack these up, you can go to boxofjoy.org, and you can do this with your entire family.

You can show your kids

what it's really like to give to someone that's in need.

And they send these out there, and they give these to like four different countries where kids have nothing.

They have nothing.

When we went to Haiti, drove us out from Port-au-Prince and Glenn.

You've been there.

You had nothing.

Oh, my gosh.

It literally looks like a war just happened there.

These kids are just,

we saw them taking baths in the streets.

It was just awful.

And we went for a while while and we delivered some of these gifts.

And we did this like in June or July.

So it's like Christmas in July.

And the looks on these kids' faces, they have never received gifts before.

And this is the very first time they've ever received anything.

And I'd never seen anything like it.

It was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.

Tell me about your kids when you got back home.

Yeah, my son packed up one of these boxes and we took him and he so much care, took so much care packing up one of these boxes.

And he packed it up and I carried it all the way.

This is something that you don't get to do if you participate in this.

Don't actually get to physically take it over there.

But we're going to actually show you this because we're going to release a video showing what it was like.

But I took that video over there.

I picked out a kid and I showed it to my son when we got back.

And you're going to see it.

The audience is going to get to see this pretty soon.

But he just almost lost it.

And this kid does not.

He's like stone.

He doesn't lose it at all.

And he almost lost it, which, of course, pretty much made me lose it.

But it was amazing.

And if you really want to say, this is the true spirit of Christmas right here and giving to someone.

So how do you participate?

So go to boxofjoy.org and they'll show you where the drop-off center is.

And you can, like I said, do this this weekend.

Take your family, pack up one of these, like a shoebox or something like that.

You go to that place, it'll show you where to drop these off.

You drop it off, and then they'll send it out so that it arrives there by Christmas Eve.

We did this last year,

not with the Cross Catholic Outreach,

which does this.

Somebody in our church organized something, and we just did it locally.

And we went shopping with the kids,

and it was really cool.

Once you got them in the mindset that you're not getting any of this, and they started thinking about others, it was a really cool family event.

And this just makes it really simple to do.

And it was hard for my kids.

All they think about is just receiving pretty much for Christmas.

That's what Christmas has turned in for them.

And this really changed it for them.

We're giving to someone that's never received something before.

And my son's different.

I can already tell this Christmas because of what he did and his participation.

It's amazing.

I'm beginning to

I'm hating the way it's just so commercial and you know, it's just totally different.

It's just totally different from when I was growing up.

It is now just about rip the paper off, get the stuff and

go ahead, Stu.

Well, I mean, I got to stand up for commercialism here a little bit.

I'm the only person who ever does that.

But I mean, I think both of these things can happen, right?

I mean, you can have a great Christmas with your kids and they can get cool presents and really celebrate it.

And have that other thing, you know?

I mean, both can be true.

Really hard, but this will help.

Boxofjoy.org.

Boxofjoy.org.

Glenn Back.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Pat Gray is joining us on the Friday Big Show here, stepping up to the plate.

Welcome, Pat, from Pat Gray Unchained, or Unleashed.

Unleashed, you know.

Unleashed, yes.

Welcome, Pat.

How are you?

I think I'm good.

You?

Oh, oh, my gosh.

Are you kidding me?

Yeah.

So what are your...

How are you?

I'm fine.

Thank you so much for asking, Pat.

I thought I'd notice that you're there as well.

I just wanted to also say to you, how are you?

I'm good.

None of us care how the other one is.

No, so let's just move on to that.

People care about me every day.

They're always asking me, how you doing?

Every single phone call.

And sometimes I ask them, well, are you really concerned?

Are you just making small talk?

Usually they're not really concerned.

They're just making small talk.

That's true.

Which I think you're doing now.

Perhaps,

perhaps, to avoid the real issue, which I notice you haven't spoken out about yet today.

Uh-huh.

Which is?

Roy Moore.

Well, he just got in the room.

Why would he have spoken out?

His show hasn't started.

I don't think we need to be bogged down in your details.

That's fair.

That's fair.

Let's not mess with Glenn's truth.

America heard me say it.

America knows.

I'm confused about that.

I mean,

the initial story about the 14-year-old girl, where the 14-year-old girl and her mom are sitting on a bench outside the county courthouse, a total stranger walks up and introduces himself as Roy Moore.

Hi, I'm Roy Moore.

Oh, hi.

What are you doing here on the park bench?

Well, I'm about to go in and

have a custody hearing.

Okay, well, you know, your daughter obviously doesn't want to listen to that.

That's really boring stuff.

Why don't you let me watch her?

Really?

Would you?

Yeah, you don't mind?

Oh, of course not.

What do we go back 90 seconds?

You're not just a stranger.

You're like family.

And boom, she goes inside and I hope loses custody of her children.

And he's out with her 14-year-old girl.

Who does that?

This is a fair point.

Who does that?

That's bizarre to me.

You left.

You left out the fact that he identified himself as one of the district attorneys.

Yes, that's true.

And you can't lie about that.

You don't lie about that.

He was out front of the courthouse.

Who else is out front of the courthouse?

Nobody?

Right.

Nobody.

Right.

And there's never been a district attorney who wasn't a wonderful person and you couldn't trust with your 14-year-old girl for a few hours.

Okay.

I mean.

So nothing happened, though, on that day.

No, he got her phone number.

Right.

And then he called her.

Right.

And she left the house and went around the corner and met him.

Right.

At 14.

At 14.

And then he died.

let them drive to the woods.

Let me drive to the woods.

I mean, how many of us have not driven 14-year-old girls to the woods?

Well, they need them to take their clothes off.

That would be all of us.

That would be all of us that haven't done that.

So

he takes her to the woods.

She's starting to feel nervous.

He undresses her, but

I love the use of the word underpants, leaves her in her underpants and bra, and he strips down to his underpants,

his tidy whiteys, and

then he

starts to touch her through her bra.

Yeah.

And then he moves her hand toward his

area.

And

she becomes uncomfortable, says, I want to go home, and he takes her home.

So he's a child molester, but he has boundaries.

He does, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He'll break the law.

He'll break the law.

He's a 32-year-old guy that'll, you know, he'll make it with a 14-year-old.

Right, but not all the way.

No, not the best.

He'll only go to second base.

Yeah, okay.

And that's it.

Right.

Now, he is denying it.

We should point out.

He is.

And he should, because, I mean, this sounds pretty fishy to me.

What?

If you're, because, what, you're a careful child molester?

Who does that?

Take me home.

Okay.

I'll tell you who does that.

I'll tell you who does that.

Somebody who was raised in the South, and I'm not making excuse for it.

I think this is wrong.

I think it's creepy.

And I believe her.

Do you?

Yeah.

And

I don't think he should be.

Why do you believe it?

Is it because he has a wife that's 14 years younger than him?

No.

It's a part of it.

No, because the pattern repeated with the other three.

He was a gentleman with the other three and 16.

The others were legal, but it's exactly the same kind of story.

If you're making something up, you say, and he took me against my will, and oh my gosh, he was horrible.

No.

Yeah, that's true.

And they all admitted it was kind of a date, right?

Yes.

Okay.

And if you think about the South in those days, remember, it was Jerry Lee Lewis who was, I think, married to his 13 or 12-year-old

cousin.

Yes.

And America, the South, was totally cool with it until he went over to London and they were like, okay, this is creepy.

And that's how he lost his.

It wasn't because America stood up.

Right.

And obviously, I know you're not excusing it.

Not at all.

The culture argument only goes so far.

It was illegal.

No, no, no, I know.

Yeah.

But he should give consent at 14 years old.

He was saying he did.

His people say, even if it's true, there's nothing illegal here.

And I don't think that's the right thing.

There is something illegal.

Yeah, but it was illegal.

Not with the 16, 17, 18 year old.

The 14-year-old.

But the 14-year-old, it was illegal.

Yeah.

So, I mean, it's tough to tell.

And I think, like, you know,

I think it can be true that if he did this, I want him nowhere near the Senate.

I think there's parts of the story that seem pretty credible.

but at the same time, we are setting up a accusation equals destruction

system that is going to burn somebody who's innocent if it hasn't already.

It's so dangerous.

So

here's the problem.

Anybody disagree with Harvey Weinstein?

In what way?

Yeah, I definitely disagree with him molesting all these people.

I think that's a terrible idea.

Does anybody believe that he's an innocent guy?

I don't, but that's not a good standard of proof.

The The fact that I'm like, yeah, you know what?

I read that article.

It seems guilty is not a good way to handle a society.

I haven't called for the elimination or liquidation of any of these people

because I am very uncomfortable with just

a trial in the press.

It's really dangerous.

And it is going to catch up.

Right now, it seems to be catching up with, well, exception of people like the Amazon guy.

I don't know.

There was one person, right?

I mean,

one person basically was at a party, a drunken party, and accused him of saying inappropriate things and coming on tour, which they did not actually hook up.

He just made a bunch of, you know, pretty nasty jokes, it seems like, or nasty pickup lines.

And now he is no longer the head of content at Amazon.

And it seems to be just one thing.

And now, even if he did that, I don't know that he was anything illegal.

I don't even think, like, Louis C.K., like, I don't know that he was actually accused of anything illegal.

No.

It was just he kind of seemed like a really scummy guy for a good portion of his life.

But again, like, I don't know.

We have to come up with some sort of standard.

And this is why these things need to go through the court system around the time that they happen.

You just can't.

There's no, none of us know.

We can all sit here and say, well, the Washington Post seems credible on this.

Or we can say the Washington Post is a bunch of idiots

and they're always trying to kill Republicans.

Both of those things might be very true, but

none of us have any real idea because none of us are there.

It's decades old and it's impossible to get any evidence on it.

Yeah.

And the 16 or 17 year old one in this case, I mean, to show you the thinking, I think, in the South, he's a 32-year-old guy.

Mom knew about, I think it was the 17-year-old.

Yeah.

And mom was against it.

And mom's like, you know, and talk to him.

And they stopped seeing each other for a while because mom was like, hey, you know I think you're robbing the cradle here a little bit I mean it's not like they're they're accusing and saying hey he did these things mom knew about it I mean he was being a real weird creepy gentleman with a three

and you know robbing the cradle

at 14 he was breaking the law it's just it's just we just have to I don't know we have to find a way to be consistent and

and and make sure that we're not sweeping innocent people up.

It's going to happen.

It's going to.

It's going to happen.

It's going to.

Bill O'Reilly says.

Bill O'Reilly.

He says, yeah.

And, you know,

you think there's going to be several, right?

The way this is happening right now, one story with details.

Think about this.

We talked about this a little bit earlier, Pat.

If you put this in the hands of a bad journalist, a bad guy, Walter Duranti, a Jason Blair, someone who's actually manufacturing details, put this in the hand of three or or four political activists that decide to put a story together.

I'm not saying that is what's happening with Roy Moore at all, but

look at the pathway to success you could have to take somebody down like this.

It's going to.

It's going to happen.

So, you know,

look up the story of Fatty Arbuckle today because it is exactly what happened.

You doing that on Pat Grand Leash today, I assume?

I'm telling you, it's a weird coincidence because

I already planned that.

I told the story to Stu today, and he was like, holy cow.

It is an amazing story.

Well, we've talked about it before.

Yeah, he was wrongly accused, very much, very similar to this.

The press just took it and changed it because they were selling papers.

They destroyed him, right?

Destroyed him.

In fact, within a year, they wanted to burn all of his films.

Not just stop playing his films, burn them all.

And he never recovered, even though he was found completely innocent.

And if you read what the jurors

said at the trial, they were like, this is one of the greatest injustices in American history.

Wow.

And never recovered from it.

And it's happening again.

You got Spacey losing that movie.

And now Louis C.K.

is apparently not going to be part of the movie that they were going to release.

And see, it's hard because I put Spacey and Louis C.K.

in two different categories.

If there was consent for what Louis C.K.

did, if there was consent, it's just creepy and icky, and I don't really want to hang out with Louis C.K.

Spacey, that's criminal.

Yeah, that's criminal.

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This is very disturbing for this.

On multiple levels.

On multiple levels.

If you know, especially if you know anything about armadillos, you can get leprosy from them.

I'm just saying.

Where did that fact come from?

It's just not something most people know.

Look it up.

Why would you?

Why would you?

Well, because we're having an armadillo race, and I wanted to know: A, did you even know it was a mammal?

I didn't.

No.

Yeah.

I wanted to know.

Do you think that's a mammal?

Are rodents mammals?

I don't know.

I don't think so.

I wanted to know where they are, what they are exactly, and so I started looking up their disturbing and dark history.

Anyway, you see them squished on the side of the road every once in a while.

Yeah, everyone's.

That's all I know about them.

And luckily, I haven't stopped to eat one.

No, I have a lot of people.

So it's a good thing.

Anyway, so we're having an armadillo race, and we cannot let this happen.

Jeffy is winning right now.

You can bet on who's going to win.

And so you just donate, even like it's a buck or whatever.

And right now, I'm losing, and that is bothering me.

Is it?

Yes, it is.

Yeah, because that's really the most disturbing part of this is the fact that Jeffy's beating all of us

at this point.

All of us.

Jeffy should never have anything.

By quite a bit.

It was closed yesterday.

It's not even close now.

This is not right.

He doesn't even have a show.

how is he winning i don't know exactly how is he winning

something here people love jeff sadly for some stupid reason

so you can so you can you can you know bet on which armadillo is going to race i will tell you i have named my armadillo little billy named him after bill o'reilly Nice.

Why didn't you name your armadillo after Bill O'Reilly?

Because I thought Bill would really appreciate it.

I thought he would really like that.

Oh, really?

Oh, I'm sure he would.

I'm sure he would.

I've named the armadillo and uh you just broke the trophy you just broke the trophy on the oh my gosh you just broke the foot off the trophy oh my gosh i broke the trophy now we've got a damaged armadillo trophy that is unbelievable i really wanted it you'll now well i'll fix it

oops i'll fix it i didn't mean you'll fix it you broke the foot off

It's not real.

I don't know if you know that.

Well, it is real.

It's a real trophy.

You could just glue it right there.

Nobody would have known if you wouldn't have said something.

You just did it on national television.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay, so anyway, the broken trophy could be somebody's.

I don't want it.

I do not want it.

I didn't until now.

Now you want it.

I want it now.

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So, going out this weekend to do some Christmas shopping.

Try to beat the crowds.

This will be the last time I go out probably into an actual store for Christmas shopping.

Do you hear they have the internet now?

I know.

I know.

I've already done some Christmas shopping on the internet.

But I kind of like stores.

I'm going to go to a mall for the first time in like a year.

Don't even know if there's any stores left in it.

There are, actually.

It's becoming a pretty fun experience.

My wife likes to go

20, 30 times a week.

And I'm there often.

Yeah.

But there's a lot.

They seem to be trying to be making it more of like an entertainment thing along with the shopping, which is kind of cool.

It's a good vibe to go with, I think.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, I'd like to go and, you know, look at the Teslas.

That's the only thing in the mall that really interests me, or the Teslas.

But I don't think we're going to have a tree big enough for Tanya to put underneath the Tesla.

But I could always hope.

She could always try.

I could look for a big tree.