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the president went to war over the weekend and it wasn't the war we were all expecting but the missiles have launched Trump went to war with the National Football League and it all started on Friday in a rally in Alabama wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out?

He's fired.

He's fired.

That's the president of the United States.

The very next day, Trump took to Twitter to explain, and he said, quote, if a player wants the privilege of making millions of dollars in the NFL or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect our great American flag or country and should stand for the national anthem.

If not, you're fired.

Some find something else to do.

Okay, now let me be fair to Donald Trump.

He is echoing the sentiments of many Americans, and it is honestly the way I feel.

I don't feel about the fired part, but it's the way I feel.

You guys are making millions of dollars here.

You're nobody's oppressing you.

You've made it.

This is what we've been feeling since the take-a-knee thing, because Kaepernick is not an honest broker.

But with all due respect to the president, private citizens and companies can do whatever they want.

It's called the Bill of Rights.

And we may not agree with it.

In fact, we may hate it.

But they have that right to do it.

You know, the thing that keeps coming to mind is we're being played.

We are absolutely being played.

This is what Russia would want.

Did you hear what Facebook announced over the weekend?

That they didn't catch some of the Russian money coming in because they were promoting Black Lives Matter.

Why would Russia be doing that?

Because they know it tears us apart.

This entire thing is stupid.

And there's no other way to describe it.

The president telling a company and its employees what to do is stupid and not his place.

The NFL players disrespecting the flag and the national anthem is stupid.

If the players want to actually help create change, why wouldn't they use their fame and go to the local level, engage local police departments, and build relationships?

That would actually do some good, but they're not doing that.

Why?

Because this was a way for Colin Kaepernick to become famous and hold on to any ounce of fame he could.

The whole thing is a sham.

So why is the president not only getting caught into it, why is he throwing gasoline on the open flame?

Can you blame the players?

Yeah, for being stupid?

Yes.

Do you blame the players?

I don't blame the players any less than I blame the president.

No one has told the players not to do so.

And let's be honest, if the NFL wanted to stop this, they could stop it, but they don't.

The NFL has been jokingly called the No Fun League for a reason.

If they wanted to stop the behavior that they felt was unacceptable, like an overzealous touchdown celebration, they shut it down.

They could easily stop political demonstrations during their games in the same way they clamp down on everything else.

But the NFL is choosing to be political.

Is there anywhere we can go to get away from politics?

You do have a choice.

Do you throw more gasoline on the fire on this topic?

Or do you look for anybody who is reasonable on it?

And the second thing you have to decide is:

do you continue to watch the NFL knowing what choice they have made?

It's Monday, September 25th.

This is the Glen Beck program.

And

now

it's springtime for Hitler and Germany.

Dutch land is happy and gay.

We're marching I

learned something about my

parenting skills

and I learned something about

my son this weekend.

For some reason this movie came up in conversation

and

my son who's 13 said

what's that

And I said, oh,

you've got to see the producers.

So Saturday night,

we went and we watched the producers.

And at one point,

he said that,

Dad,

how was this movie made?

And I said,

what do you mean?

He said, when was it made?

I said, I think this one was made in 2006, but the original is like 1968.

And And at that point, on the screen was the swastika that was, they were dancing in a swastika.

And,

you know, and the crowd was obviously horrified.

And my son looked at me and he said,

What did the government say?

And I said,

What?

How did the government allow this to be made

In my house,

my son.

How did the government?

I stopped the movie.

Excuse me?

How did the government allow this to be made?

Well, yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, it's really offensive.

How did they allow this to happen?

The government has no place.

He regrets talking to me during a movie sometimes.

The government has no place

in telling us what we can and cannot say or do.

No place.

The kind of government that tells you you can't make something, you can't say something, is the kind of government that was run by Adolf Hitler.

It's the kind of government that was run by Mao.

Kind of government that was run by Pol Pot,

Mussolini,

Joseph Stalin,

not the kind of government that was run by Abraham Lincoln.

It is, unfortunately, the kind of government that was run by Woodrow Wilson,

by FDR,

by LBJ,

by Barack Obama, by Donald Trump.

We are not

those people.

The government does not tell us what we can and cannot say.

Here's where we have a problem:

everybody's talking about a safe zone.

I need a safe zone.

Does speech make you feel unsafe?

If it does,

then

you have been raised poorly

if speech can make you feel unsafe.

Speech should make you uncomfortable.

There's a difference between being uncomfortable and unsafe.

Every place should be a safe zone, but is Berkeley a safe zone?

If I walk down the streets of Berkeley, just me,

am I in a safe zone?

I don't think I have to even say anything.

I'm not sure it would be safe for me.

There's a difference.

I can't tell you the last time that I've went to a public function and I felt comfortable.

There's a huge difference.

One of those things you need to get over.

The other is an issue.

But those who are crying for safe zones are only making things less safe.

Because when you can't shut people up, you have to shut them, you have to shove them.

First,

you try to shut them up,

you suggest, then you shove, then you shoot.

The only country I feel safe in

is a country that didn't blink

when this was made.

Stringtime for Hitler and Germany,

I'm not sure if I'm going

to

If a guy wants to go about his normal business and participate in the anthem, he shouldn't be forced to choose sides.

If a guy feels a need to do something, he shouldn't be separated from his teammate who chooses not to.

So we're not participating today.

That's our decision.

That is Mike Tomlin.

He is the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Quite the controversy yesterday.

Steelers, people were burning their jerseys.

You're going to regret this.

But they were burning their jerseys.

They are very upset because they allowed the media to dictate how they felt.

I don't know Mike Tomlin, but I know several people who do know him.

And I have been following him as a, just as a man for the last few months because

I know people who know him and I know how he feels

and I know the journey he's on.

And

what did he just say there, Stu?

Because I know at first, when you first heard the story yesterday, you were upset, and then you actually listened to him.

Yeah, it's an interesting story because it was being reported as essentially they were taking the Steelers, were taking the strongest stand against the Anthem.

They weren't even coming out on the field for it.

They're not even bothering to come out and sit down.

And it was kind of the way it was presented in the media.

When you hear Tomlin talk about it, it seems much more like he wanted to pull the team out of the controversy completely and just not out there.

No one has to worry about standing or not standing.

We're playing football.

And it seemed like that was his intent there.

I don't know because of the way the media reported it, I don't know that it actually worked, but I think that was what he was going for.

And those comments kind of back it up.

So that is exactly what he was going for.

Mike Tomlin was supposed to be on with us today.

Hopefully he'll be on with us tomorrow.

But

Godal called this morning and asked that he would not do any press until they have everybody, that he has a chance to talk to all of the coaches in the NFL this afternoon.

So I'm hoping that he will be on tomorrow.

I do believe I'm going to have

a friend of his on today to explain

what he was thinking and who this guy is.

Do you know anything about him?

He's a really good football coach.

I can say that.

I mean, he's an excellent coach and he's

anything about his life?

Very little.

When you hear his life, and I don't want to go into, I want him to tell the story.

When you go into his life and you know his history

and

you know what he says, you know, for instance, he says he's not a good enough coach to be a coach in the NFL.

He said, I don't believe I.

That's not

accurate.

Well, that's what he believes.

He said, I didn't, I didn't do this.

I know I didn't get here on my own.

God placed me here for a reason, and

the country is tearing itself apart,

and

we're going to play a role in healing.

The press took what he did and completely distorted it.

What he was, this is just

a first step for him.

And he, I know, behind the scenes, because again, I've told you that I've been watching him, and I know people who know him and

their they're mutual friends and they have said

Glenn you two are cut from the same cloth here on this he's gonna be doing some things

he's not sure exactly what

but he's got to get he wants to get everybody out of this controversy he wants to go and run a different place right now

everyone wants you to be on the field at the line of scrimmage and you are either you are either for Kaepernick

or you're for Donald Trump.

And those are your only two choices.

You can't be anyplace else.

You're not going to win.

And both sides are going to destroy themselves.

His idea is

what we learned from war games.

I don't know how many times I've quoted that stupid ending of the.

You are in a Matthew Broderick phase, apparently.

Producers and

War Games.

My son turned 13.

But But watching war games, the only way to win is to not play the game.

Do you remember that at the end?

Shall we play game game?

And so that was supposed to be no, right?

The answer is no.

You don't play the game.

And that's what's happening.

And Donald Trump

knew it.

What he did when he went to Alabama was he's just being him.

That's just him.

He's just talking like a game show host.

He's not talking like the president.

He's talking like a game show host.

And that's what he did.

And that's what everybody elected him for because they like it.

And he was like, you know, wouldn't it be nice to say, you son of a bitch, get off the field?

Well, what he forgets is he's also the president of the United States.

And so when he says something like that,

that's going to ratchet up the other side.

And they know I can fight him.

I'm going to fight him.

And they think they're going to win.

He thinks he's going to win.

And the only one that loses is us.

And America loses.

This story was essentially over in the NFL.

I mean, it was dwindling.

They had talked about it a lot at the beginning of the season.

You got through a couple of games.

And now it's all they talked about all day yesterday.

All they talked about.

And it's going to go on and on and on.

And now you've made Kaepernick into this gigantic.

This now

is going to be a Martin Luther King moment.

Right.

Now, more people sat for the anthem than ever before this weekend.

Yes.

Because now it's now

politics and Donald Trump.

It's Donald Trump.

Right.

It is politics and Donald Trump.

God, can you leave one thing alone?

Can I not be

every part of my stupid life invaded with politics?

So I saw something this weekend.

I saw the Kingsman.

Oh, yeah.

Oof.

Oh, no.

The first one was.

Oof.

That was good.

Okay, so it was good.

I mean, it went over.

It crossed a few lines for me.

It crossed several lines for me.

But one is I've never seen the president of the United States ever portrayed this way, ever.

And I won't give it away.

But it was, now maybe it was because I was sitting in Texas, but I'm watching that and I almost walked out.

Okay.

They're not even portraying

Trump.

It's just a generic.

It's just a generic president, but you know it came from Donald Trump.

And the way they're portraying the American president is so unbelievably offensive to all Americans.

It should be to all Americans.

Because that's something that is printed for all time.

I have never, I can't recall a movie where I have seen the president of the United States portrayed this way.

It's interesting because the first one was about a global warming villain, a guy who was like pro-environment, so pro-environment he wanted to wipe everybody out.

Yes.

So I wonder if they went pushed back the other side.

Maybe they got so much heat for the last time.

Maybe, I don't know.

But it was,

it, it, it, it portrayed the, the president of the United States as somebody

truly, truly, truly despicable

in a way that I have

in a way that I've never seen before.

So the answer to your question, is there someplace safe?

No, but to go back to my original argument, yes, America is safe as long as we all understand

we're going to be uncomfortable.

Back in a minute.

Glenn, back

Glenn back.

There is so much to go into.

One is another stupid story

about that cotton vase from Hobby Lobby.

It was the number one story last week, and there's an update on it.

But

can I just ask you

what matters most?

We're being played and we're being torn apart when real issues are happening, when real oppression and struggles are going on.

Don't get sucked into the system and go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

More in a minute.

Glenn back.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

There's some things that don't matter at all.

Some things that matter a lot.

But what matters most,

we're being sucked into things really that don't matter at all.

We're being sucked into arguments about free speech and safe zones that, quite honestly, I'm sorry, if you're on a college campus, get over it.

There's going to be some communists that are talking to you, and there's going to be some Nazis that are talking to you, and they all have a right to say it.

There's going to be some pro-global warming people and some anti-global warming people.

You're on a college campus, get over it.

That's where you should be challenged on everything that you think.

That's why there is tenure.

So, somebody can ask outrageous questions.

We're not a society that was built on timidity.

We have to be able to challenge each other.

So, Hollywood, college campuses, communists, Nazis, the NFL,

you have a right to stand, you have a right to take a knee.

Because quite honestly,

that's a sideshow.

Anyone else feel like you were in the Roman Coliseum this weekend?

Real things are happening.

They actually matter.

And

we're watching Lions and Christians.

What are we doing?

There is free speech.

and there's an argument that it is the argument that has to be made that

speech must be protected, and the only kind of speech that has to be protected is the speech that the majority doesn't like.

However,

there are people that hide behind free speech, and they do real damage.

Right now, in Congress, they are talking about the Communications Act and the Communications Decency Act of 1996.

And

there is something that came from the Village Voice.

It's called the Backpage.

And it is the literal auction platform for slavery today.

And people have been trying to shut this down for quite some time.

And they have some really good attorneys.

This needs to be heard by you there's a movie that is out that just came out it's on netflix and iTunes and Vimeo and Google play Amazon DVD it is called

I am Jane Doe

and it's parents it's hard to watch it's parents who sent their kids off to school one day and they didn't come back

kids that left home and didn't come back

until their parents found them being sold on the back page of the Village Voice.

It's horrifying.

And it's happening, and people are making millions of dollars on it.

A woman who didn't know anything about human trafficking just a few years ago is the producer and the director of I Am Jane Doe, and she's with me now.

Mary Mazzio.

Hi, Mary.

How are you?

Glenn, how are you this morning?

Thank you for having me on.

You're welcome.

So explain to the audience exactly

what's happening.

So this started, Glenn, when I read an article in the Boston Globe about Jane Doe number one, Jane Doe number two, and Jane Doe number three,

aged 13, 14, and 15 years old, that sued Backpage.com and the Village Voice Empire

for compensation for injuries they sustained by virtue of being bought and sold for commercial sex online.

And people call this human trafficking and sex trafficking and sex trafficking of minors.

That's kind of a sanitized term, right?

What we're talking about is serial child rape, right?

These children are carted from motel room to motel room.

They are with the advent of technology, right, they're scheduled on the hour, by the hour.

And I had not a clue

that this was happening in numbers that would make your head spin in this country.

I think like most Americans, I I assume that this was happening in developing countries, right, where children are bought and sold for sex.

And when I read this article, I remember thinking, what the hell?

Like, this is 10 minutes from where I live, Jane Doe 1, 2, and 3.

And they're represented, by the way, by Ropes and Gray, one of sort of the oldest white shoe law firms in the country.

And oh, by the way, how did Ropes and Gray get the case?

Like, how did they lose their motion, right?

How did they lose this lawsuit?

That made no sense to me.

And as I'm a recovering lawyer, which is like highly irritating to most people, by the way.

But I remember thinking at the time, I read the decision, and I

remember thinking, how is it legal in this country for websites like Backpage, and there are many others, by the way, to host ads selling children?

How is that legal?

And yet, it is.

Okay, so now

people understand

this is something that this is, you know, this comes from the village voice, and a lot of people on the left were protecting the village voice, and they were like, no, there's no way they understand, there's no way this is happening, because to a lot of people on the left, the village voice is, you know, the voice of a generation and

a hero outlet to many.

Oh, yet,

fighting truth to power, right?

I mean, exposing corruption, exposing wrongdoing, and yet, and listen, I'm a liberal, right?

I I swing very left, and it pains me, right, that Backpage and The Village Voice, and we'll talk about Google in a minute,

but the dirty little secret to all the alternative weeklies was that their editorial was supported by the sex ads.

And listen, back in the 70s, it was free love, free sex, right?

Whatever goes.

And I think the term, the lexicon around human trafficking, nobody really started talking about it until 10 years ago, 12 years ago.

What is it?

And I think that really exposed what you said before.

This is, particularly as it relates to children, modern-day slavery.

And the numbers are escalating with technology online.

And what I mean by that

is that

the problem is getting worse rather than better.

There's an estimate of around 15% of all homeless and runaway children will be victimized.

And when you think about the numbers, there's anywhere between 1.6 and 2.5 million children on the street at any one time.

15% of those children, oh my God, we're not talking about a kid here or there that shows up at the Port Authority.

We are talking about, conservatively, hundreds of thousands of children.

And by the way, I received this report from the University of Louisville, and they said, Mary, you know, we understand that 15% is sort of the estimate.

It's in the shadows, nobody quite knows.

But make no mistake,

we did a study of children in Kentucky and Indiana.

We have concluded that 40 percent of homeless and runaway children were victimized by

child sex trafficking, 40 percent.

So this is a problem that is escalating in size and scale, and it sits alongside the opioid epidemic, and that is something that nobody is talking about because those children are the most vulnerable.

Okay, so Mary, I'm going to run out of time.

So I would like to, because I want to get, I want to build this in layers because there's a lot of information that people need to absorb.

First, I want you to watch the video.

It's free.

It's everywhere.

It's I am Jane Doe.

It is a really well-produced documentary.

And I warn you,

when you start talking about

freedom of speech,

you will, if you're a libertarian, start to say, well, wait a minute, hang on just a second.

Do they have a right, do they have a responsibility to know exactly what's happening on the other side if somebody is just putting in a classified ad?

But that's not what's happening here.

You know, if somebody wants to post something on Facebook, Facebook isn't responsible for what everybody says online.

They can't be.

It'll put them out of business.

Nobody can do that.

But that's not what's happening.

Can you quickly, Mary, explain what the Backpage is doing?

Yeah, and so this is really interesting because a Senate investigation sprang up which provided all kinds of evidence that, for example, a pimper trafficker might post an ad for a child and use terms that would signal a child.

New in town, fresh, off the boat, schoolgirl.

These are indicia of a child, right?

And Backpage developed filters, according to the congressional report, that would automatically scrub the term Lolita or schoolgirl, right?

Or Amber Alert, and yet the ad would then be posted.

So there was some conscious decision to mask indicia of a child.

And I think that is what is so troubling about the Wild West online is that

Backpage and those that have supported Backpage, which by the way includes Google and others that are desperate to keep this Wild West culture online, have said even if you're a website that encourages illegality, you still bear no responsibility for the harm that happens, including the sale of children.

Mary, just to clarify, were you saying that they put the term amber alert in the ads?

Some traffickers apparently put the term amber alert because it was a term that Congress discovered was filtered out automatically by back page

that is absolutely

unbelievable I kid you not

the child there was a child there's a new mother to the cause and there's an effort in Congress right now to change to really close the loophole right if you're a bad actor and you're encouraging this kind of activity you ought to bear some responsibility right there should be a financial incentive for you to clean up your act and one of the mothers her child she lost her child at Christmas time to a Backpage buyer.

Her daughter was 16 years old.

What did the ad say?

Fresh, new in town.

I learned this from working with Operation Underground Railroad, that there are low miles.

There are terms that people who are buying children clearly understand.

And for Backpage to be censoring those and then not turning those people into police

is really

quite reprehensible and frightening.

Here's what I want you to do.

Mary, would you be willing to come back later this week?

Because I want to talk to you about the Google connection.

Because

Mary is, Mary is, you know, as,

you know, correct me if I'm wrong, Mary, but you and I don't agree on much, I would imagine.

Yeah, exactly.

You could probably count it on one hand.

Yes, okay.

So

we don't agree on, we don't agree on much.

However, we do agree on this.

And what she's going through now, what Google appears to be doing to her, they are making her

look like me.

They're making her

treating her.

I'm so sorry.

Yeah, no, they're treating her like

they would treat me.

So something is really wrong.

I get it when they're treating me that way.

But when they're treating one of their own, there's something really wrong.

And I want her to explain that.

But the first thing I want you to do is please today watch I Am Jane Doe and bring yourself up to speed on this because there's something going through Congress that needs to happen.

Later this week, I hope to have Mike Lee on to talk.

Have you talked to Mike Lee about this at all, Mary?

No, I have not.

Okay, so I'd like to get Mike involved in this because I trust Mike is

a real strict constitutionalist, but he's also a deeply moral man.

And so we'll, you know, we'll not excuse, we'll not excuse

the

horrors done to people over, you know, for rights, if you will.

Right, exactly.

And he's a First Amendment specialist, and I think both he and I fundamentally agree this is about conduct online and has nothing to do with speech.

Nothing to do with speech.

Okay, Mary, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

The name of the movie is I Am Jane Doe.

We'll talk again, Mary.

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Glenn Back.

Why is everybody talking about the NFL today?

There's a really simple answer to this, to get you to stop talking about health insurance that will be unaffordable for half of the country next year.

This is what's coming your way.

The Senate has until the end of the week to stop this from happening.

But the Graham Cassidy Hail Mary already looks like it's doomed to failure because of John McCain.

Ted Cruz has now come out and said he's against it.

Donald Trump now is cozying up to Rand Paul.

Let's forget about all the political games for a a second.

If nothing gets done in the next five days, what happens?

Premiums have already soared over the past couple of years, but by 2018, those rates are going to become completely unaffordable.

If you live in California, Texas, Florida, or Georgia, you will expect to see a 50% increase in your premium for 2018.

Can you afford that?

God forbid you live in Wyoming, you have it harder.

Your premiums are going up over 80%.

Your southern neighbors, they have it even harder.

Don't complain, Wyoming.

At least you're not living in Colorado because their rates are going to hit near 200% higher than last year.

It's the same all over the country.

In Virginia, it's 180% increase.

In Indiana, 117%.

New Mexico, 84%.

It's on and on and on.

This is what's coming.

This is why we said when Nancy Pelosi said, well, you're going to have to pass it to know what's in it.

We said, don't pass it.

The Affordable Care Act deems health insurance unaffordable if it costs exceed 8% of your family's income.

With these premium increases, over half of the country will be forced to pay for something

by the government that they cannot afford.

I just want you to keep this into perspective.

Two things.

One,

we were promised this system that is now going to put you into a situation that you cannot afford health insurance.

It is this system that came from the Democrats and came from Washington.

This is the system that they promised you would save you $2,500 a month and you'd be able to keep your own doctor.

Did that work?

The answer is no, clearly no.

Now they're going to make this all about the Republicans not doing anything.

But what do you think the Republicans can do with a government system that's going to make it better?

Why would we look to the people who created this problem to fix this problem?

Let me ask you this question.

Do you think any of us would have flat screen TVs today if 10 years ago the government would have come up with an affordable flat screen act?

This is political theater, and the games are playing out in Washington, D.C.

this week.

The second thing I want you to know is this:

this

is why

those on the left and those on the right

are stirring up the hatred

and getting us to argue about a stupid football game.

It's Monday, September 25th.

This is the Glen Beck program.

I wish we were arguing about football games.

That's the problem, we're not arguing about football games.

This is so ridiculous.

It's all nonsense on the side of it.

Yesterday, I could not help but think

we are watching the.

We're in the Roman Coliseum.

We are watching a show.

At least that was about sports.

I don't know what this is about.

I mean, sure, a few people got eaten by lions, but at least it was a sport.

I don't know if that's technically a sport.

Well, I mean, it's you're fighting off the lions.

I feel like it's kind of sports.

That was all to distract the people from what was going on.

Give them cakes and circuses.

This is what's happening.

We are involved in a circus.

You're being played, America.

You're being played by the left and the right.

And how do I know that?

Because I want you to hear what Mike

Tomlins said from

the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Listen to his actual quote.

We're not going to play politics with football football players, with football coaches.

We're not participating in the anthem today.

Not to be disrespectful to the anthem, to remove ourselves from this circumstance.

People shouldn't have to choose.

If a guy wants to go about his normal business and participate in the anthem, he shouldn't be forced to choose sides.

If a guy feels a need to do something, he shouldn't be separated from his teammate who chooses not to.

So we're not participating today.

That's our decision.

We're going to be 100%.

We came here to play a football game.

That's our intention.

What did he say?

What did he just say, Stu?

I mean, he said, essentially, outlined the idea that I don't want to make this about some

sideshow about the flag when this is a sporting event.

We're here to play football, and I don't want people who want to take a stand on either side to feel the need to do something.

This should be, you know, this is not what it's about.

And I'm not here to disrespect the flag.

I'm here to, we're here to play a football game.

So how was he portrayed yesterday?

He was, I mean, again, like I, all the reporting I heard initially was

because there were a lot of teams who had people taking knees.

I believe coming into this week, before Trump said anything,

it was seven, it was, yeah, there were seven teams that had someone on the team doing this,

but it was a very small percentage.

Now they're locked arms.

Now,

everyone was locked arms, or they, you know, or a bunch of teams were sitting.

There were people stretching on the sidelines as the national anthem was playing.

And a couple of teams decided not even to come out of the locker room.

And it was presented as if here is the ultimate stand.

They're not even going to show up for the national anthem this time.

It's the ultimate stand against the anthem.

And in reality, when you hear Tomlin's comments, that's not what he was doing.

I mean, he was obviously, when you hear his words, you realize he was not saying, taking a huge stand against the anthem at all.

He was just wanting to pull that part of the, trying to eliminate his team from the controversy.

Now, he was unsuccessful in that, unfortunately, because a lot of the media reporting.

Exactly right.

Because of the media reporting, because the media wanted a side,

because the media, and quite honestly, because people on Facebook and Twitter and everything else, we're all part of the media now, gang,

because we'll see a headline and because it feels good and it gives us dopamine to choose a side,

I'm for this or I'm for that.

Somebody saying, I'm not playing this game, there is no way to win.

Somebody who says that

is going to get slaughtered by both sides.

So, Mike Tomlin was supposed to be on with us today.

Hopefully, he will be on the program tomorrow.

The commissioner of the NFL asked him to not say anything until later this afternoon when they all have a chance to meet.

Apparently, there's been some progress made behind the scenes.

I don't know what it is, but hopefully, Mike will be on with us tomorrow.

But I wanted to give Dave Lopez a chance.

And Dave, you're going to get to

know here

probably in the next few weeks because there's a really amazing story happening behind the scenes

and has been going on for quite some time.

And it is, I have been following this.

I've been following, I don't know anything at all about sports, but I've been following Mike Tomlin behind the scenes because I know what he's, who he is as a man and what he's trying to do behind the scenes, what he's been preparing for.

And

one of his friends is on the phone with us now who spoke with him a couple of times over the weekend.

Dave, how are you?

Dave Lopez, welcome to the program.

How's it going, Glenn?

Thank you for having me.

You bet.

So

when you spoke to Mike this weekend,

did you get the impression that he saw this controversy coming as far as him saying, I'm not going to pick a side, and it turning around and getting more ugly on him?

Yeah,

that's exactly what I saw.

I think a lot of this was a last-minute decision that was event.

You know, we all kind of know by now that what prompted this was really

not as much the Black Lives Matter movement, but the comments, which is what caused this different kind of reaction.

And so this was a split-second,

really, decision.

But I will say that Coach Tomlin has been

from the beginning,

he knows exactly the potential for what's going on right now and the ability for things to divide people.

And he is very, very aware of that and willing to do anything to preserve.

So, this would explain,

and I wish he were on to speak for himself.

And

I don't want to put words into his mouth, and I don't want you to put words in his mouth,

but I do want to lay some foundation here.

This explains

what he was trying to do yesterday and why he was upset at the one player that did come out and came out of the tunnel because he was looking for 100% compliance.

He's like, we are not going to divide ourselves.

We're not going to get involved.

That's exactly right.

It was meant to be a team statement.

And

Villa Nueva is an awesome guy.

And I think everyone understands why he did what he did in the end.

Right.

And Mike understands that too, correct?

Absolutely, 100%.

So

you've gotten to know him, and I want to tell your story and his at a later date.

I want to talk to him first, but

can you give people an insight at all on Mike not being

just some face in the crowd?

He has a pretty remarkable story, especially when it comes to race.

Yeah,

he has his own very, very unique story.

And I kind of have a different,

kind of like the polar opposite story, but really the same thing from my perspective.

And I really,

in a nutshell, he understands why men are growing up with these kind of feelings towards law enforcement.

And I think when he gets to tell that story about himself and what he came up through, it'll be very evident as to why he is doing what he's doing.

And there's much more to it than what people are reading into it.

But I know 100% that's going to be seen in time.

Right.

And it's not that he has, I mean, he understands both sides because

for the listening audience, if you remember Ken Hutcherson,

Hutch was a guy who, before he died of cancer, I thought was the great uniter that we had been looking for.

He had grown up really, really,

you know, a black supremacist.

He liked Malcolm X and he did not like white people because of what he grew up with.

And then

he found God, quite honestly, and completely,

he flipped entirely

and so could speak to both sides in a complete and unique way.

Is this kind of Mike's story?

I believe that is exactly the kind of person he is, and I think he's uniquely qualified for it.

That's just my assessment of it.

I will say I've spent a lot of time with him, especially over the last six months, and

I've met fewer people, especially in his position,

that are as committed to using the platform that he has for good.

Whether it's the organization Man Up Pittsburgh, where he's constantly rallying men in the inner cities to stand up and take ownership of their lives and their families.

He is constantly working, a lot of times behind the scenes, to make these things happen.

He's also extremely smart.

He knows the way things divide people.

And

I've heard him say things even to players like, hey,

he's not the kind of guy that thinks the right response is I'm going to make sure to tell every person what they should or shouldn't do.

That isn't at all how he thinks you get success.

And I actually agree with him.

But he is the kind of person that's going to challenge a man.

And if he says, hey, look, if you're going to take some stand for something, it better not be something you just do in this one time window.

It better be something you're really about.

You know what I'm trying to say?

Like, don't be led by the nose by people.

That is his message that he's been saying for years now to his players.

That's the same exact message from the Eagles owner, Jeffrey Laurie.

Of course, the Eagles obviously yesterday beat the New York Giants on a 61-yard 61-yard field goal.

So just wanted to point that out to the audience who may not have picked that up.

Yeah, thank you, Stu.

I appreciate it.

Dave,

we will be talking to you again, hopefully, in the next few days, and

hopefully, we'll have Mike on tomorrow to give us his story.

But I urge you, as Americans, to not pick sides.

I urge you, especially before you have all of the information.

I don't know if I'd be burning your Steelers jersey.

There's much more to this story, and when you hear it, I think you will regret setting that ablaze.

And to be clear, you're not saying don't take sides on the flag.

You're saying don't take sides on Tomlin, who is a little bit.

Because I have seen a lot of stories about him, about Villanueva, and some other things that seem to be kind of misreported.

We should go over some of those if we have time today.

But we'll get to the bottom of that this week.

Our world is a place of uncertainty and stress from the tension of just an NFL game or the possibility of military action in North Korea, the hurricanes in Texas and Florida and Puerto Rico.

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The shooting of the churches

this last weekend.

The enrollment now in some colleges, the lowest it has been in over a decade.

How about this one?

The record-breaking $20 trillion.

That's our debt now.

$20 trillion.

Is anybody even paying attention to that anymore?

I don't know what the future brings, but it will bring more instability.

Things will become more unstable.

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Glenn back.

Glenn back.

Phil in Oklahoma.

Go ahead, you're on.

Yes.

Yeah, Glenn, I just wanted you to know, I listened to you, I respect your show, I've listened to it ever since you started, but I'm just real disappointed in the NFL and the stance that

Mike Coleman took on this deal.

I feel like that it was political, but I also feel like this whole situation is ruining sports for everybody.

Okay, so hang on,

hang on, let's take a couple of things here separately.

I agree with you.

I think this whole thing is ruining sports.

We're allowing politics to permeate everything in our life, and it is wrecking everything in our life.

I agree 100%.

I don't like the stance of the NFL.

The NFL, if they wanted, if the NFL wanted to stop something, the NFL stops things.

I mean, they stopped people from, you know, doing a little dance in the end zone, didn't they?

They came down hard on that.

So if they wanted to stop something, they could stop something.

They don't want to.

Don't agree with the stance.

Three, when it comes to Tomlin, what makes you say, I mean, I have it from the horse's mouth.

I wish he was on today, but he couldn't.

He'll hopefully be on tomorrow.

But I have it from him.

It's not political.

It's not political with him.

So

what are you disagreeing with Tomlin on?

Well, how could it be not political?

Everybody goes out there and they stand for the national anthem.

Well, now they don't.

Some of them are even stretching.

They're not even taking a knee.

They're not even taking a knee in protest.

They're laying on the field and they're stretching.

He says we're not going to take the team out there.

But I think we are.

We're not going to get part of this.

Okay.

And I think the argument, though, is if you go out there, they're going to take stands.

Some of the players are, and then you are going to be making a political stand.

He's trying to remove that from the equation.

Glenn Beck.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Can we have an adult conversation here for a second?

It requires us to actually stop and listen and think and think outside the box, think in different ways, think about things that make us uncomfortable and make us squirm a little bit.

There is no such thing as a safe zone except for the United States of America.

Every place in America should be a safe zone.

You should be physically safe to be able to express your opinion.

But that does not mean that you're going to be left

to be comfortable.

The only time I've ever grown is when I'm uncomfortable.

You're going to be uncomfortable in life.

That you don't have a right to ask for.

To be safe.

In my point of view, to not have somebody kill me for it.

Yeah, I'd like that.

I think that was the first one.

I have a right to life.

Yes, that's what it was.

So let's look for perspective on the national anthem.

I want to make this really super clear.

I mean, I don't have a dog in the fight because I can walk away from the NFL and never watch them again because I don't care.

I'm not a sports fan, so I don't care.

And I think what's happening in the NFL is disgrace.

It's just a disgrace.

And I think it's a continuation of what is happening with ESPN.

They've chosen sides.

They don't care.

And they're just going to continue to do what they want, thinking that you're trapped watching ESPN or watching football, and you're never going to give it up.

So they'll just do whatever they want to do

because they have a different agenda.

That's what I believe.

Could be right, could be wrong.

That's my personal opinion.

it is easier for me to talk about this because again i don't have a dog in the fight

i don't i don't care i can turn it off and it doesn't impact my life at all now because i don't care and because i'm not sharing this with them with my son i'm not sitting there watching it and seeing those guys and then having to look at my son and say okay this is wrong and having to explain that when i don't want to have that time taken with my son i want to share it with just a game

so I understand that.

So take everything that I say

with the understanding that I don't share that with you.

But I want to give you perspective.

I want you to make a list in your own mind right now of what things actually affect you.

What actually affects you.

The healthcare debate.

I don't know if you missed at the top top of the hour we talked about Colorado is you're going to have a 200%

increase in your health care costs next year if Congress doesn't act in the next five days.

200% increase.

Now we can argue about whose fault that is.

Is that Congress?

Is that the Republicans?

Because this is Obamacare.

This is what we told you would happen.

But

Doesn't matter.

That is going to affect your life.

And it's about 100%.

It's between 60% and

I think 250% increase is the highest in the country, but you're going to get at least a 60% increase in your insurance.

Can you afford that?

That actually affects your life.

How about what's happening in your school right now?

That actually affects your life.

How about the cost of an education, which has gone up 41%

since Obamacare was put in?

Why is education going up 41%?

Why are we accepting that?

Why is no one talking about that?

What's happening on campus where our kids are learning garbage?

That actually affects your life.

Somebody who doesn't stand for the national anthem, where is that

on that ranking?

Now, I can make the case.

that not standing for the national anthem changes our culture and it does impact my life.

I can make the case that getting rid of the national anthem at the top is going to affect my life because it changes our culture.

But before, because I don't even need to make that case, so I don't even need to say before I make that case.

You've already made that case.

You know that.

Before you go down that road entirely, I want to talk to you a little bit about nationalism.

Nationalism is,

I would contend, the thing that has gotten us in trouble.

It is a progressive idea.

Started around the turn of the century with Teddy Roosevelt.

And

if I may, just ask you to go here.

Divorce yourself from everything and everybody today.

Let's just go into the world of thought and academia here for a second, and let's just think things through.

What has been the biggest cause of problems in the Middle East in the last 100 years?

I would say there's a few things.

Nazism coming in and planting the seeds of anti-Semitism is a big one.

The idea of oil being something that the United States would need to buy

from the Saudis and from the Middle East instead of getting it ourself because we were trying to stabilize the region.

And the third thing is just us trying to

stabilize the region.

It was, you know, comes from,

you know, you can go all the way back into the early teens of last century, and you can look at the pacts where the West said, we're going to divide this up, and we're going to make these countries, and we're just going to draw the borders.

Sykes Pico.

So

if you look at the three, you have Germans planting just a poison in the Islamic world.

And then the other two,

us

saying we know better and we're going to get involved.

That's a new thing.

And that comes from this idea that we're going to move democracy, the world, freedom is on the march.

Democracy is on the march.

We're going to change the world.

That's a whole different idea than we had in the 1800s and 1700s.

We were a humble people.

It's why we got the Statue of Liberty.

France gave that to us, not as a gift.

They didn't care about us.

They gave that, they built that because they were trying to teach the people in Paris that communism is a bad thing, that people having a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of

their own happiness, that's a grand idea.

They were trying to convince their own people.

That's why they built the Statue of Liberty.

The same thing with

the George Washington crossing the Delaware.

That painting was painted in Germany by a German,

trying to convince the Germans, don't listen to Karl Marx.

He's wrong.

He's wrong.

Look to America.

They have the answer.

That's why everybody thinks the original is sitting in Manhattan at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

It wasn't.

It was burned

in the Allied bombing when we were bombing Germany.

That's the original.

Nationalism

is something that came in from the progressives.

To raw-raw, we're number one

we didn't have a standardized flag you know the flag that we can't allow to touch the ground

we have to burn it if it touches the ground

the

the flag wasn't even standardized until Woodrow Wilson meaning you could arrange the stars any way you want but Woodrow Wilson knew to really truly control people you had to force them into a group, and so he standardized the flag.

It's progress, you know.

I want to play.

Could you please rise for the national anthem?

Could you play that?

Please rise for our national anthem.

Sucks, doesn't it?

This, by the way,

was the national anthem that my grandparents knew.

What?

Hail Columbia

was the national anthem.

And Woodrow Wilson wanted this changed.

So in 1916, he said the military, which he re-segregate segregated,

that they're going to recognize the Star-Spangled Banner,

but America can do whatever it wants.

So this was the national anthem until 1931.

How many times did our unpatriotic

Congress

say no to the Star-Spangled Banner?

Forty.

They held this piece of crap up 40 times

hey stop turning off it's giving me a headache it's awful it's awful but that was our star-spangled banner until 1931

now we treat the star-spangled banner

And the flag, which was not standardized until the progressive nationalist movement.

The same movement that in the

early 1900s were putting Germans and Italians in jail because they would speak German or Italian.

Look it up.

The same national progressive government that in the 1940s locked up the Japanese and put them in internment camps.

You see, we were played back then.

We were played on our emotions.

Our founders and in the 1800s,

we knew a little better.

Our founders knew a lot better.

Those trappings are meaningless.

It's how we act.

It's how we treat each other.

It's how we live our life.

Do we live the principles of America?

And here's the saddest thing.

What are we doing?

We are arguing right now against someone's freedom to protest.

It's in the First Amendment.

They have a right to protest.

We should be standing up and saying, yep, he's a dummy.

Yep, he doesn't get it, but whatever.

He has a right to do that.

That's what we should be teaching our children, that he has a right right to do that.

At the same time, we're saying that Antifa

has taken things too far and they're ratcheting it up with hatred and they're burning things down to the ground.

We need to be saying, but they have a right to speak.

Not to throw Molotov cocktails, but you have a right to speak.

You have a right to be heard if somebody wants to listen to you.

We have to separate the players' right to do what they want to do and the NFL's right to make money or lose money the way they want to do.

They have to be populist.

They have to do the popular thing or they'll go broke.

But everybody else has a freedom of conscience.

I just

I just, I beg you

to take pause.

Take the emotion out of it.

There is no one that loves this country more than me.

There's no one that feels stronger about our troops than me.

You and I agree on this.

Let's honor our troops.

Let's honor the people who fought and died for this country.

But here's an idea.

Instead of doing it at a football game, let's tell Congress to fix the VA.

Because that

is something that actually matters and will actually

change our life.

It happens every minute of every day.

Somebody's home is burgled.

The average property loss from one home break-in, just in the middle of the day, you come home, somebody has gone through all of your stuff, and they've taken about $2,300.

$2,300.

Total loss per year in America is in the billions because this is happening every minute of every day.

It goes beyond the money.

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Glenn back

Kurds are voting whether or not to break off from Iraq.

This is kind of a big deal over in the Middle East.

We'll give you more on that coming up in just a second.

Also, we're going to do something a little different.

We're going to add an extra broadcast to our busy day for a few days this week as we're working on a couple of different things.

We're going to do a live broadcast on Facebook Live.

Will it be at Glenn Beck's Facebook page or just the Blaze Facebook page?

Do you know, or both?

I think it'll be at both.

I'll share it to Stu Bergeer's Facebook page.

I will share that as well.

Wow, it's going to be.

It's going to take over.

So that'll be

in the

12 to 1 o'clock hour Eastern time

every day this week.

And you can join us only on Facebook Live just this week.

We have some stuff too about breaking news on the tax rates that are going to be coming out here from the.

It's thinking big.

It's thinking big.

Yeah, it's thinking big.

It's not quite what it was.

Well, I mean, you know, he said, you know, we're going to get the top tax rate down,

and he's going from 39, and he's hoping we're starting at

a decrease to 35% for the top.

49 to 35 is, I guess, the beginning negotiation point.

So if you start there, we could see 39 go all the way to 44 or 45%.

It probably won't happen.

It probably will.

We'll have more on that.

And your phone calls coming up.

Glenn, back.

Love,

courage,

truth.

Glenn Back.

The shooter intended for a high body count.

It was yesterday morning.

Man walked into a church outside of Nashville.

He shot six people.

He killed a woman in the church.

He's 25-year-old Emmanuel Cadega Sampson.

He's an immigrant from Sudan who came to the U.S.

in 1996.

Police say he was a legal resident of the U.S.

But Sunday morning, Sampson drove into the parking lot of the Burnett Chapel Church of Christ.

He left his car running.

He got out wearing a ski mask, and he was armed with two handguns.

He shot and killed 39-year-old Melanie Smith in the parking lot.

Then he went into the church through the rear door.

Inside the church, he opened fire.

He didn't say a word.

There was an usher there.

His name was Robert Engel.

He tried to sedue Samson, but Samson took his gun and pistol whipped him.

In the struggle, Samson apparently wounded himself with a gunshot to his leg.

Engel's father then guarded Samson while Engel ran out to his car to get his gun.

He had one, but but he wasn't carrying it in church.

Engel returned, put his gun on Samson, and kept his foot on him until the police arrived.

Six wounded churchgoers hospitalized today, stable condition.

Engel is also in the hospital being treated for a head wound and a separated shoulder.

Samson was treated and released from the hospital, been charged with murder, with additional charges to follow.

Church members were surprised because Samson attended the church several times just a few years ago.

Police don't have a motive yet, including whether race was a factor.

Without all the facts, people are already choosing sides.

Definitely terrorism.

Definitely.

He's from Sudan.

He's black, so it's definitely racially motivated.

Children of immigrants hate America, you know.

We don't have any of the facts.

We don't know.

Here's why I think this needs to be talked about today.

We have to stop jumping on red meat bandwagons, immigration, terrorism, racial hatred.

They're all factors and they may be at play here.

We don't know, but it might be the guy was just,

you know,

soup to nuts crazy.

We'll find out the truth.

Life is actually really simple.

It's humans that are complicated.

But one thing you need to know is evil is real.

But bandwagons don't solve the evil problem.

They don't solve the root of the problem of moral decay.

They're not going to solve, you know, racial injustice or immigration, or they're certainly not going to comfort this grieving church.

What will?

All the things people roll their eyes at.

The most powerful things known to humankind.

It's what makes men men.

And yet we dismiss it.

Love, empathy, courage, compassion, service.

Prayer.

What we all roll our eyes at,

in the end, will be the only thing that saves us from ourselves.

It's Monday, September 25th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Do you know why

we

feel the way we do about the NFL.

Do you know why so many people are upset?

And I can say this as a guy who's not a fan of the NFL.

But I wish I had this.

I wish I had this with my dad, and I wish I had this with my son.

Something that we rooted for together.

What Stu had with his father,

he now has with his son, and that is the Eagles.

He's only an Eagles fan because his dad was an Eagles fan.

No?

No.

I thought who was fans?

He may wake up from the grave to come back to correct you that he was a Giants fan.

Giants fans?

But I mean, the love of football was that way.

The shared community that we have,

and I don't understand it with football, but it is one thing that the left doesn't understand about the Second Amendment.

They say that the Second Amendment is about guns.

Well, no, it's not.

The Second Amendment is actually about my right to defend myself.

That's what the Second Amendment is about.

But the reason why people become so passionate about it is because

my growing up on the farm with my grandfather during the summer months ended every night with my grandfather and I walking what he called the back 40

and I would try to keep up with his long legs

as he had a shotgun opened up

carrying it

and once in a while between the the

rows of raspberries, a pheasant would fly up,

and he would shoot it.

And I'd carry it home to grandma.

The gun doesn't mean, to me,

the gun doesn't mean protection.

The gun is a representation of my grandfather.

And those simpler times,

the gun isn't about safety the way some people look at a gun as safety.

It is a warm blanket of comfort,

the safety of my traditions and the safety of my grandfather and knowing where I came from.

That's probably the closest I can get with the NFL.

What we're sensing here is

a loss,

again,

of our culture

and a loss of something that has real meaning

to some of us.

I'm somebody who goes to a sporting event or any event and they sing the national anthem.

And even though

anthem, I hate this song.

It's just a, it's just not, why can't we have, I mean, I know this is, this is just me speaking out loud musically.

Have you ever heard the Soviet national anthem?

It is stirring.

It is really good.

It is really good.

That Ivan Draga was standing for in Rocky IV.

That's how everyone knows that.

It's really good.

It's really good.

So I'm not a fan of our national anthem.

I think there are better songs that we could have chosen as a national anthem, but it's ours and so I am for it.

But you're a fan of the nation.

I'm a fan of the nation for which it stands.

and I still, even feeling the way I do about the national anthem, just musically and lyrics,

it's not my favorite, but I still cry.

I still stand in the stand, and I have a lump in my throat every time.

I feel like a big cry baby because I always get a lump in my throat.

Why?

Because of what it

says

we should yearn to be.

America is not a place.

It's not a time.

It's not a people.

It's an idea.

And the same thing, that's what the national anthem to me embodies.

Even though none of the words say that.

That's what I feel.

And if I had gone to sporting events with my father,

and I know my father used to stand up and he used to do what I do to my son.

Poke him in the back.

Stand up.

Put your hand on your heart.

What are you doing?

Stand up straight.

Pay attention.

Stop talking.

Show some respect.

I'm sorry, but that's part of my culture too.

We can make this about the troops and we can make this about a lot of things.

And it is about all of those things.

But it is also

a sense of a loss of culture

somebody said yesterday why don't you stop singing the national anthem just they're there to play football just stop

that's a loss of something significant that's a loss of the unity of all of us coming together 80,000 of us standing in a place and none of us agree on everything.

In fact, you could find whole sections that want to have a fist fight with another have you ever been to Philadelphia with another section of the stadium.

And yet, for a moment, we all unite.

That's the loss that you're sensing.

That's why this is so personal.

But I'm not the only guy to figure that out.

People who want power,

people who have an agenda, know that as well.

People that want to pull down the country,

people that want to see us divided,

people that want misdirection,

they know that as well.

And they're playing you.

They're taking something

so sacred.

Why are you mad at the GOP?

I don't know if I can speak for you, but let me speak for me.

Because I'm not playing a game.

Because I actually believe these things.

I believe America has done a lot of really crappy things, but I believe America is still the best in the world.

The minute somebody comes up with a better system, I'm there.

But this is the best we got.

And America did change the world.

The idea of America changed everything.

And we're about to throw all of that away.

And I supported the GOP as much as I ever could.

I supported politicians.

I spent my my time, my energy, my money.

I campaigned.

I talked to friends.

I lost friends.

I argued with neighbors and family members.

I've been called names.

I've been made into something that I'm not because I stood where I stood.

You've done the same thing.

And I'm guessing that you're mad at the GOP the same reason I am.

They didn't mean it.

When they said they were against universal health care, it's obvious they weren't.

When they say they were for smaller spending and a smaller government, it's clear they weren't.

They used us

and they took something that really, truly meant something to us.

They took the country itself and wrapped themselves in all of the trappings.

And because those trappings, we have given those images power, it worked on us.

Fool me once.

Shame on you.

But both sides are doing it again.

Fool me twice.

Shame on us.

You mentioned national unity and how it feels when you're at the national anthem and you're watching that.

And I think everyone has that moment.

It's one of the things you kind of like about sports because you have these two warring factions in the stadium, right, that hate each other, probably,

the fans for one team or the other.

And in that one moment, they kind of come together.

We just went through the 9-11 anniversary.

And I was looking at some stats from that era.

It was this week that George Bush hit his all-time high of an approval rating, 84%

among Democrats.

Oh, my gosh.

Can you imagine a country in which the Democrats liked Donald Trump at a clip of 84%, or that Republicans liked Barack Obama at a clip of 84% approval?

That doesn't even feel like it's...

even remotely possible.

And it's why I think the concept of the 9-12 project was so important and successful.

Like it was something that people really remember that day.

They remember those days after after 9-11 as it feeling like it was a different planet.

Well, for as high as we went, there's a pendulum in life.

And as high as we went there, we are now, I believe, approaching the zenith

or the apex of

the opposite.

And it will swing back.

It will swing back.

We should try to do everything we can to stop the swings from being so wide.

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Glenn back.

We're going to add a extra hour today.

Want to take your phone calls?

Have a lot to talk about

that we have not gotten a chance to cover today.

We're going to do that on Facebook Live.

You can get that at my Facebook page, also at the Blaze Facebook page.

Facebook Live today.

It'll probably start about 12, I don't know, 15 or so

Eastern time, and we'll run probably an extra 40 minutes or so.

Can you get Facebook in prison?

Are you allowed to?

Do you know?

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

Depending on who you are, why?

Well, I wanted to see if Anthony Wiener might want to watch the Facebook Live broadcast today.

I don't think he's going to get access to the internet.

No?

I have a feeling.

That might be a bad thing.

That might be a bad thing.

Yeah.

Maybe even after he gets released from prison, he might not have access to the internet.

Anthony Weiner, now sentenced to 21 months in prison.

Should have gotten more than that.

You're probably right on that.

He's also paying a $10,000 fine and going through a sex offender treatment program for his sexting with a 15-year-old girl.

And that's just obviously one of the shady things he's done.

It's not just sexting.

What he did with that 15-year-old girl is really despicable.

I mean, she said, I'm 15.

And he said, all the things I would like to do to you when you're 18.

And then he said, I want you to do these things to yourself.

And

I mean, it's a 15-year-old girl.

He knew it.

He knew it.

How he only got two years is beyond me.

It's beyond me.

But what an amazing turn of events for this guy.

I mean, if you don't remember, if you haven't been listening to the show for a long time or your memory is as fuzzy as mine is,

Anthony Weiner was leading the charge against this show in 2010, trying to get Glenn thrown in prison

because he didn't like one of our sponsors.

He said we should all go to jail.

Things have changed.

They really have.

And it's weird.

Remember, Anthony Wiener was the guy I came to and said, don't strike back at him.

He's not an enemy of ours.

He's an enemy of God's.

Remember?

And we're like, well, I don't know if we're necessary.

And I remember saying, no, I'm not saying that God's going to exact revenge for us.

No.

But there's something that

he's a bad guy.

And let God handle this one.

And he has.

It was insane watching it because, you know, being on the inside of these things, you get to see it from a different perspective.

And we knew the things he was saying were completely untrue.

We knew he was lying throughout this process.

But, you know, he gets picked up.

He gets put on TV.

He, you know, he was still tied in, even after leaving office, almost won the mayoralship of New York, if not for a scandal, probably would have.

Oh, yeah.

An additional sex scandal.

Then all of these messages he's been trading happen to be on the same computer where messages from Hillary Clinton are stored, which leads to the Comey letter 12 days before the election, which there's really strong arguments that that may have been the thing that tipped Donald Trump over the top.

You really want to know why you want to know why Hillary Clinton didn't win.

One of the things that the left will never talk about is him.

Yeah.

It's Anthony Weiner.

When they say the Comey letter, they like to put the blame on Comey.

The blame for that goes to Anthony Weiner.

If he wasn't sexting a 15-year-old, that never would have come out.

It never would have happened.

And of course, it wouldn't have been effective if Hillary wasn't also incredibly corrupt.

If she was clean the whole time and this thing came out, probably not enough to push him over the top.

But with the built-in belief that she was already corrupt, and it being on

Uma's, you know, hard drive, Anthony's hard drive, those two you knew were corrupt themselves.

Oh, yeah.

And the whole thing, the whole thing fell apart.

It is him.

He's lost the presidency for Hillary Clinton and the job for his wife, and two years in prison now.

Glenn back.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

So, Pat Gray joins us.

He does the program following mine on the Blaze Radio Network and television, and you should listen and watch.

But we're talking here about

politics and football.

God, I love it.

You know, and at first it was kind of cute, wasn't it?

Okay, these guys making $12 million a year protesting social injustice.

Isn't that precious?

It's It's adorable, even.

All of these guys are multi-multi-millionaires.

What kind of social injustice led you to that job?

Aren't they proof positive that if you apply yourself in this country and work really hard, you can make it?

You can get out of the slums.

You can get out of the ghettos.

And most of these guys have.

Because they don't come from wealth.

They created their own.

And so the hypocrisy of this and the double stand,

well, the inequality of things.

If you really cared, if you really, truly cared, I'm sorry, but I'm a fan of Washington.

If you cared, deeds, not words.

And I'm having a hard time talking about your, hearing you talk about your struggles over the sound of that V12 Bentley behind you.

I'm sorry, but the engine is a little...

is just a little much to be able to hear.

I'm sorry, you were talking about what was it?

And we come to sports for a respite.

It's like an oasis, isn't it, on the weekend?

We have politics all week.

We're slapped in the face with it every single day.

We don't want this thrown into our face during a football game, too.

We've come there, and some of these guys, some of these people have paid 500 bucks a ticket to be in the stands or more.

If you get nice seats, if you get luxury boxes,

you've paid thousands of dollars to attend this game.

And then you get to put up with the social justice protest, too.

I just, and let's not forget, Colin Kampernick, who started all of this, and everybody keeps going back to him and his

right to protest, he didn't quietly, reverently just take a knee.

The guy came to games with socks that had pigs in police hats.

He showed up at a press conference in a Fidel Castro t-shirt.

I mean, your zero credibility just went to about negative 1,000 credibility.

Pathetic.

And through it all, the sports writers were casting him as a hero.

Oh, isn't this wonderful?

I will tell you.

No, it's not.

I will tell you that I think Donald Trump has made this worse.

I think he has.

He has made Colin Kampernick now is going to be a social justice hero.

He was about out the door as a laughingstock.

And I think Donald Trump's statements over the weekend have reignited this, and he's going to be remembered now as, you know, a Che.

Yeah.

A great hero.

It's a little silly, too, because he had extended the offer, the invite to the Warriors to come to the White House because they won the NBA championship.

And then Steph Curry decides, yeah, I'm not going to go in protest.

And then he's like, well, okay, then you're not invited.

That's like baking somebody a cake, and then they say, I don't want your stupid cake.

Well, I'm going to unbake it then.

It doesn't work that way, Donald.

Sorry.

It doesn't work that way.

But I love the Tom Brady statement yesterday because he's supposedly a friend of Trump.

And

here's his thing.

I thought it was just divisive.

Like I said, I just want to support my teammates.

I believe in bringing people together and respect and love and trust.

Oh, wait.

And cheating.

I believe in a really good deal of cheating, too.

So you have a dash of cheating in

every belief system, I think.

Okay, so now hang on just a second.

Hang on just a sec.

So you are in, you're on a football team.

Yes.

And the deal is we need each other.

If we're going to win, we need each other, right?

yeah okay so if i if i go in and i say anything divisive i'm gonna make sure that we've just lost so i know that i can't change some people's minds they're never gonna take a knee and i can't change some people's minds they're never gonna stand

for the team

For what you're all being paid to pay for those cars and those houses and the extravagant lifestyles and the girlfriends that will leave you the minute the money stops stops rolling in.

To pay for all of that, you have to make a choice.

I can either take a stand that will divide the team,

or I could leave the team,

or I could just say, you know what?

We're here to play football.

And I understand their point of view.

I understand their point of view.

We're here to play football.

Isn't that really the right stance?

Yes.

Yes.

So then why is...

It's not the stance he took, but that's the right stance.

So why is Mike Tomlin getting so much heat?

Because that's what he did.

He just kept everybody out of the madness.

He said,

I can't convince.

I need 100%.

And this is why he was mad at.

What's this guy's name?

Villan Nueva.

Villa Nueva.

I can't say that.

Alejandro Villa Nueva.

And he went out and put his hand over his heart.

Right.

And he wasn't mad at him.

It was just.

He made one little comment that basically said, like, he said,

he didn't even say his name.

He just said, you know, look, we were looking for 100%.

And I guess that, you know, the story lines it up is that the team took a vote whether they would all just lock arms or they would all stay in the locker room.

And the team voted, 100% of us will stay or not come out, stay in the locker room.

So Villanueva really didn't come out on the field.

He just took a few steps outside of the tunnel

with his hand on his heart.

And you can see inside the tunnel, a lot of the Steelers players are standing there with their hand on their heart inside the tunnel, but they had agreed as a team.

And so

I understand that from both perspectives.

First of all, Villan Away is a military hero, and he can honestly do whatever that he wants.

So wait, wait, wait.

Okay, so hang on just a second.

I think that's great.

And I 100% approve.

And I like him.

I mean, I don't know anything about him, but I liked that.

But I also like Tomlin's approach, which is everybody stay off the field.

We are not going to get dragged in and go over the cliff with everybody else.

Stay off the field.

That's smart.

Let's go play.

Didn't work.

It didn't work, I don't think.

Really?

Could it after everything that was going on?

I mean, I don't know how any of these guys played with the distractions of, I mean, how is Mike going to be playing?

Did you see?

That's why the owners are so ridiculous in all of this.

So stupid.

They should be insisting that we're going to focus on football.

How about we win?

I mean, they're even starting to lose me.

I didn't watch a single game yesterday.

I mean, part of that was I was coming back from Houston, but I could have turned it on and I could have taped it and I could have, but I'm just not as interested as I was.

I'm just tired of it.

They're killing themselves.

I think so.

They're killing themselves.

The ratings have come out overnight.

Not a big change.

They're down.

One was down 1%.

I don't think that it's necessarily the ratings.

I think it is, you know, they make a lot of money on the t-shirts.

Yeah, the merchants.

And the large and the merchandise.

I mean, after a while, you can only beat a brand so much before it's just like, there's nothing left.

Even the NFL.

I mean, it would take a long time, but they've got so many issues right now.

They got the CTE thing

where they just found out that Aaron Hernandez had it too.

He was in stage three or even maybe four of the CTE brain disease.

And so, how much of his problems were caused by that?

I don't know, but they're being sued by his family

and fiancé.

And then once that happens, aren't the other 111 out of 112 people who've been tested positive after their death for CTE, they're going to to come after the NFL, too.

Maybe they should focus on something else.

I mean, maybe they put a stop to this madness and say, look,

we've got some other issues here that we need to deal with.

So here's the problem:

because America does not understand nuance anymore.

I mean, nobody wants to talk nuance.

Nobody wants to have a conversation.

For instance, I completely support Colin Kaepernick's

right to be an idiot.

And I think he is, I think he's an idiot.

I think he's a dishonest

idiot.

It's worse than an idiot, but yes, you're right.

I mean, I can't call him a Marxist, but, you know, from what little I've seen with the, you know, he's

got all the, you know, he's got all the

outward signs of being somebody who is not a friend to freedom.

But I don't know.

I know he is an idiot, and he has a right to protest.

He has a right to protest on the side of the field until the owner says, or the NFL, stop doing that.

Right.

And they're not saying that, right?

Yeah, because it's a private business and they can tell you what you do on their time.

Correct.

And the minute the owner and the NFL and/or the NFL say, stop doing that, he's got to stop doing that or get out of the NFL, which is not really a big step for him.

No, since he's already there.

Yeah, so it's not really a problem.

But I have to say, on the other side,

I agree with the president's right of free speech to say say the things that he said this weekend, but he has to remember he is the leader of the free world.

He's not a game show host.

He's not a talk show host.

He's not a, that's not who he is anymore.

He's the president and the leader of the free world.

And to be saying that people should be fired for having a stance is wrong.

is just wrong.

I liked everything else he said about,

you know, the national anthem isn't about race.

It's about respect and love for the country i agree he's right about that

and you know what you know what it would be great if he would have said look the national anthem while the nfl is deciding to do whatever they're doing and people decide to disrespect to me the national anthem is about our is about our uh veterans and what they fought for and uh that's why i urge you to spend your sundays volunteering at a v a center

that would have been a great state imagine that?

Yeah.

If he's encouraging and he said, in fact, I'll be joining you for the next four Sundays.

I don't, I'm not asking you to boycott.

I'm asking you to get busy and to stand up for what you really believe in.

And what you really believe in is not the flag or the anthem, the song.

What you really believe in is what it stands for.

And those people who fought for it need our help.

I mean, because that would have been powerful.

That would be really powerful.

And it's a great way to do it.

I will say, however, I am on Trump's side, generally speaking, on this issue, right?

I mean, there are parts of his statements that I didn't like, but obviously I'm on his side with

the anthem was just childish.

Yeah, but I am up for the standing for the national anthem.

I'm there.

The issue I have, though, is I just don't want the president involved in it.

I don't want any of that there.

It's so frustrating.

The NFLPA came out with a statement that was like, you should never have to take a job in which

you lose your rights.

Like, same thing they'll lose their First Amendment rights if someone stops them from kneeling.

First of all, where is this take when it it comes to every bakery that doesn't want to make a cake?

On religious grounds.

Yes, on religious grounds.

They absolutely are fine with it there.

But I just don't want...

Now this has become an arena of politics.

I don't understand it.

And I keep coming back to this, which is like this feeling that, yeah, I could bail on the NFL because I don't like what's going on right now.

I could see that.

And a lot of people are.

But it's like, then Colin Kaepernick has done something that has taken something you love away from you.

Are you going to give Colin Kaepernick or Donald Trump the power to take something that you love away from you?

I will not give them that control of my life.

What if we replace the opening of the game, we replace the national anthem with Let's Get Jiggy With It?

Would that maybe fix

kind of deep, right?

I was counting on to get the dogs out.

They asked so many times, I never get the answer.

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Glenn back.

Imagine if the NFL would have taken the time to

put together a fund that said,

you know, we're going to support the families of fallen cops,

and we're going to

take the same fund, and we're going to look for the injustice and, you know, look for the corruption in the blue line.

And they would have said, we believe that cops want,

we believe that cops want good cops around them and not bad cops.

And they would have done something that would have...

allowed the players to say, hey, there's a real problem with some police forces.

Okay,

I'm with you on that.

Let's go find the bad cops.

I'm 100% with you on that.

So are a lot of police officers.

Yes, most police officers are.

And if they would have just said, hey, we support our cops, but we support justice.

And we want to make sure that the cops are clean.

And they would have just, I don't know, come up with some fund or something that would have been able to highlight that or just do PSAs during the NFL that holds up cops and takes down bad cops and did it in a broad brush instead of what happened in St.

Louis this week.

No, no, no.

Let's look at the broad brush.

So you don't piss anybody off.

They could have so easily have done that.

And I would support an organization like that if it was committed to also, in a controversial case, coming out and saying, you know what, the police officer was right in this one.

Yes.

Because you need both sides of that.

It can't just be, let's go find bad cops.

It's got to also be, hey, this is a thing that made a lot of noise.

And maybe there were athletes and celebrities tweeting about it, but they were wrong on this case.

If I could get that organization, I'd be really pleased with it.

And I think, you know, it's certainly what we have to do when we handle it.

You have the money of the NFL.

You could figure that out.

And all of this problem would have been solved.

And the NFL would have looked like they were uniting people instead of dividing people.

And they could have played football.

And I think, honestly, what they did here is just they just punted on this issue.

They just hoped it would go away.

And I think it was on that path.

It would have.

It would have.

But now it's a political issue, and we'll probably never see the end of it.

Yeah.

Because now it's really not even about Black Lives Matter or the cops or anything else.

Now it's all about Donald Trump.

Yeah.

Now it's all about do you like Trump or not.

That's why you saw about 10 times as many people sitting down this week than before.

It wasn't about the Black Lives Matter cause.

Okay, we're going to continue our conversation about 15 on Facebook Live.

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