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Truth Any media sources telling you today that ESPN has a double standard is flat-out wrong.

And I'll tell you why.

It is your First Amendment right to call the president a white supremacist.

It is your First Amendment right.

You think that the president might be a racist?

You should say something.

ESPN host Jameel Hill took to Twitter this week and called President Trump a white supremacist who has largely surrounded himself with other white supremacists.

Holy cow.

Now I remember somewhere in a distant past, somebody else saying, I think this guy has a problem.

with the white culture.

That didn't go well.

She didn't back down.

In fact, she's doubled down.

Trump is the most ignorant, offensive president of my lifetime.

His rise is a direct result of white supremacy, period, end quote.

Now, ESPN has neither fired her nor suspended her.

They have a double standard.

No, they do not.

They gave her a very mild slap on the wrist.

Now,

What causes people to say that they have a double standard?

Well, probably their clear-cut history at ESPN in handling these type of cases.

Doug Alder, Anthony Federico, fired for ridiculous comments, one about guerrilla warfare, not the monkey ape guerrilla thing, but guerrilla as a way of fighting in the streets.

And the other was a chink in the armor.

Both of them, both of them, completely innocent.

Or how about Kurt Schilling?

He was fired for doing exactly the same thing, going on his personal private account and making a statement, a political statement.

Now, here's the difference.

Schilling's comment didn't fit the progressive narrative of ESPN.

Hills did.

There's no double standard here.

There's a double standard.

No, there's not.

ESPN is completely 100% consistent.

They have chosen their audience.

They have chosen their tribe.

They have chosen their path.

They have chosen who they believe is right, who they believe is wrong.

They have chosen the progressive platform.

They have chosen

clearly who they are.

All media right now is going through massive disruption.

ESPN is

going to play for the audience that they want.

So far, it has caused them to lose over 13 million subscribers over the last couple of years.

That has forced the company to lay off over 100 employees just a few months ago.

The entire industry is scrambling to find their niche.

Everyone is.

We are at the precipice of massive, massive change, and ESPN is just one of the many companies attempting to find their identity.

but you should understand this they've made it abundantly clear they've made their choice they've found their audience they know who their tribe is they're giving their tribe exactly what they want

they are 100% consistent they will side with the progressive agenda every single time

That's their choice and they have a right to that choice

Now you have a choice.

You can continue to watch and support ESPN

or change the channel.

There is Fox Sports.

As far as I know,

they haven't made the same choice.

It's Thursday, September 14th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

This is going to make my head explode, and I'm going to do everything I can to keep all of the blood inside of my body and not outside shooting from my eyes.

The Democrats today say that they have reached a deal with President Trump to protect the young, undocumented immigrants.

Hmm.

Last week, The president said he was going to end DACA.

Now, DACA, in case you don't know, is the Obama-era executive order that said 800,000 people who are brought here illegally as kids are safe from deportation.

Now, this is not what he said during the campaign.

During the campaign,

it was quite different, if I may, with

Chuck Todd.

So you'll rescind the DREAM Act executive order, the DACA.

We have to, Trump.

We have to make a whole new set of standards.

And when people come in, they have to come in, Todd.

So you're going to split up families.

You're going to deport children, Chuck, or Todd says, or Donald Trump says, no, no, no, Chuck.

We're going to keep families together.

We have to keep families together, but you're going to kick them out.

Yes, they all have to go.

That's pretty clear.

That is really super clear.

And that is exactly why people are called racists today.

Because they voted to kick people out of the country that were here illegally.

He was very crystal clear.

So he decided last week he was going to end DACA.

And he said,

The Republicans in Congress, they need to figure this out.

I'm going to give you six months, but if you don't figure this out in the next six months, then I will.

I'm sorry, I have maybe a different calendar or a different watch, but I don't think, you know what, maybe like God, Trump's time is different than our time.

Last night, a week later, Donald Trump met with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer over at the White House.

They had some takeout.

And they met at the White House.

And let me give you the names of all of the Republicans that were also there.

Okay, I just did.

And here's what they agreed to.

Quote, to move fast to protect these immigrants and also boost border security.

The Democrats were clear saying it will not include a border wall, one of Donald Trump's top campaign promises, if not the top.

I think the wall just got 40 feet higher, I believe.

The White House said that the wall is still on the table.

Now, why is that on the table and not on the ground?

Why is that on the table when it should be on the border?

See, Mr.

Trump, I don't think you understand.

What people have endured by being called racists, they were called racist because they wanted border security, including a wall, which you promised.

When people like me pointed out and said, you're not going to build the wall,

we were told, get on the Trump train.

Why are you trying to hurt him?

Why can't we just, why can't we all just get behind him?

You want Hillary Clinton to win?

No, I just want to tell you that he's lying to you.

He's not going to build the wall.

That was unspeakable.

And so lives have been disrupted.

Lives have been disrupted.

People have sold

everything,

everything that was precious to them, because you said you would end DACA, you would deport the people who were here illegally, and you would build a wall.

Last week, you reversed yourself, but you said Congress has to do this in the next six months.

Six days later, you broke her a deal without a single Republican there with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

But we're supposed to feel good that the wall is, quote, still on the table?

Yeah, you know what else is on the table?

Nuclear weapons.

Are we going to use them?

Probably not.

When something is on the table, that means there is something to negotiate.

You made it very clear there was no negotiation.

You were going to build the wall.

And Mexico was going to pay for it.

Now, we happen to have the transcripts where you were telling the president of Mexico that don't worry about that, you're not going to pay for it.

I just need you to kind of, you know, massage the words.

This is all about politics.

No, Mr.

President, this isn't about politics.

See, this is something that some people did not believe.

Some of us were so jaded.

That we thought a guy who was against all of the things you were promising just a couple of years before could not have changed his mind.

He was just playing the ultimate game of politics.

You just found a new way to play it.

But you destroyed anyone who would say that about you.

You made it clear, and you sent out your henchmen to destroy anyone who said, wait a minute,

I think we're being fooled here.

Now the wall is on the table.

Where were the Republicans?

Nowhere to be found.

This is the second time in two weeks that he has sidestepped the GOP to work with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

We have to decide.

Do we have a line?

Do we have a line?

Or will we continue to move that line until we have all fallen off the cliff?

By the way, we should point out that the wall is not on the table according to both sides as it comes to this deal.

So what both sides are saying is they are giving the DACA

gift

in exchange for extra border security, but not the wall.

Trump is saying we are going to go after the wall in different legislation.

He's not giving up on it.

Didn't we say,

didn't anyone who met with a gang of eight, wasn't our main concern with people like Marco Rubio?

You're naive, Marco.

You're working with these guys.

They have no intention of, you know what?

I will not talk to you about any, any possibility of pulling anyone and saying, well, there's a path to citizenship.

I will never compromise that until

there's a wall and

strict

border controls.

And the reason why the wall had to be built was because the next president could come in and just say, okay, yeah, we're going to remove all of the officers of the Border Patrol.

We demanded that finally something permanent was done.

We demanded that.

We refused to listen to this nonsense from anyone.

Oh, yeah, you're going to trust Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

What deal did he make that he trusts A, will actually happen?

And B,

what deal did he make that he thinks that is permanent?

That somebody else, even him, cannot just reverse when he feels like it.

I mean, I can't believe you see people making the case that Schumer and Pelosi should be trusted in a deal like this.

Oh my gosh.

They're going to give us border security.

Are they?

Schumer and Pelosi are going to do that?

Who's making that case?

Oh,

lots of people.

Oh, my God.

So, but the interesting thing here, I guess, is remember, this can be surprising to you, right?

If you were a big supporter of Trump or you believed in the guy,

this might be surprising to you.

But you had to remember that Donald Trump donated to these people.

This is not just like he's, he loves these people.

He signed a newspaper to Nancy Pelosi that said she's the greatest.

Like he, this is this is not a crazy thing for him to do, it's kind of what he promised to do in the campaign.

Here's the thing: Donald Trump is a New York progressive liberal, period.

That's that's who he is,

and I don't mean that as a slam or a smear or anything.

That's just who he is.

That's the way he was raised.

That's that is just who he is.

He has has even said that.

I grew up in New York.

I lived in New York.

I've done business in New York.

It's just the way I think.

Okay, I understand that.

But when you are that guy, you've learned who you can work with and who you can massage and get things done.

And so, when it's Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer in your office, you say they're great people because you get what you want.

And what Donald Trump wants is a win.

He wants a win.

And quite honestly,

where are all the people?

Where are all the people who accuse me of saying,

Glenn is just selling out.

He wants to be friends with all these people on the left?

I don't really care.

I don't care.

I honestly, this is sincere.

I have really good friends, and I would love to have more friends.

I don't have time for more friends.

I really don't.

I'm really a bad friend to the friends that I do have because I'm never around.

I'm never available.

I had promised somebody that we were going to go out.

We're friends, that we were going to go out and double date.

It has taken me two and a half years to be able to do that.

Two and a half years.

I just did it last Friday when I was some friends.

Two and a half years after I said, we have got to to get together.

We finally got together.

I can't handle any more friends.

Where are the people that are saying he just wants more friends?

Because quite honestly, this is the circle that he runs in.

Nobody likes to be unpopular.

Nobody likes to be that guy.

Nobody.

By the way, the headline today, Breitbart News, Trump Caves on DACA wants quick amnesty for 800,000 illegal aliens.

Calling him on the front page, Amnesty Dawn.

Steve King from Iowa, if the Associated Press is correct, Trump base is blown up, destroyed, irreparable, and disillusioned beyond repair.

No promise is credible.

Laura Ingram, The Art of the Steel.

This is the best comment.

Let's hope that Pelosi and Schumer have misrepresented the DACA deal.

That one is at least, I can live with that one.

Sean Hannity, if reports are true, if reports are 100% true, I blame the Republicans.

They caused this.

They wanted him to fail and pushed him into the arms of political suicide, if true.

It doesn't matter what other people say.

You know what's right, you know what's wrong.

It's time we stop pointing fingers.

It's time we stop wishing that horses horses had wings

and pigs were butterflies.

They're not.

They're not.

Now what are we going to do to get the job done?

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Glenn, back.

We are now at the crossroads with Donald Trump to where he has gone out in Fifth Avenue and he has shot someone.

And

who has he shot?

He shot the person who said, I want the Trump, I want the wall, and I don't want amnesty, and I don't want backroom deals done with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer like the gang of eight.

He just shot that person in the street on Fifth Avenue.

Is he right?

Will it matter to his supporters?

So far, Breitbart, Drudge, Laura Ingram, yes, it does.

Now he's moving on to taxes, where yesterday he said, Taxes on the wealthy are going to stay the same under the new tax plan, but I'm quoting, if they have to go higher, they'll go higher.

No, Mr.

President, which one?

Which is it?

What do you believe?

What are you promising?

Can you fulfill that promise?

Glenn Beck.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Matt Walsh, who writes for the Blaze.

Wrote an article posted yesterday that you need to read.

A certain sermon I heard a little while ago stuck with me.

It began with a reference to Toy Story.

Yes, the cartoon with talking toys.

The Pixar film, the pastor explained, contained many examples of friendship.

Friendship is important.

It's good to have friends.

In case any of you thought friendship was bad, he was standing up boldly if anyone wanted to stand up and boldly declare otherwise.

Remember that Randy Newman said, you got a friend in me.

The pastor remembered it.

He quoted it at length.

Now, I have no problem with a sermon that draws on art or literature outside of the scripture to illustrate a theme contained in it, but all of the poems, novels, songs, films, paintings, sculptures that may reveal some divine truth,

he went with Toy Story.

Oh, but Toy Story is relatable, you see.

Relatable to whom?

The message preached for most of the pulpits in America is just like this, superficial, childish, empty, and seemingly designed to insult insult the intelligence of anyone who hears it.

Christianity is dull and lifeless in this country because that's what the church and its leaders have done to it.

They've made it into something so bland, so generic, and inoffensive that it no longer bears any resemblance to the faith of our Christian ancestors.

Indeed, the primary goal of the modern church is to avoid offense at whatever cost.

And this is precisely why they are dying, because they're not merely boring people.

The problem is more specifically that they are starving people.

There's no substance, no meat, nothing in the message being preached.

The congregants sit there and slowly starve to death.

Your flocks are starving, churches, and you are starving them.

We're getting killed out here.

Do you even understand that?

We drag our sorry beaten carcasses into church every Sunday.

Fewer and fewer even bother to do that anymore.

After another week of languishing in Sodom, and what do you have to say?

Friends are good, really?

The troops are suffering massive defeats in battle.

And when they consult their commanding officer, what do they hear?

Yeah, it's rough out there, guys.

So let me tell you what I learned about teamwork from watching Guardians of the Galaxy.

People need to be woken up.

They need to be offended.

Offend us, pastor.

Make us uncomfortable.

Make me look at my reflection and see the things I'd rather not see.

Pull me out of my comfort zone.

Make me angry at myself

or at you for making me angry at myself.

Can you stand to have people angry at you?

If not, then you've chosen the wrong profession and the wrong religion.

Whoever doesn't want to be challenged, whoever insists that they're above reproach, whoever wants only sweet nothings whispered in their ears, whoever wants a comfortable Christianity does not want Christianity at all.

There are not limbs on the body of Christ.

There are malignant growths.

They are toxic.

Cut them out.

We pray that they return to the faith, but not until the faith, not until the faith is the faith they truly desire.

If they are sitting there hoping to have their ears tickled and their preconceived notions confirmed, it is the duty of any pastor or priest to disappoint them and offend them

because sometimes there is no other way to tell the truth.

Matt Walsh is here.

That article is at

theblaze.com.

Matt, you know what I like about you is

you take on your own.

You know, you're not pointing fingers at others.

You're taking on your own, your own faith, your own church, and I appreciate that, and making people uncomfortable.

What is the future of Christianity?

I don't think it has much of a future in this culture,

if this is what we get.

This is what strikes me when I go to church.

And I know that, and I wrote that, and there were plenty of Christians who said, well, my pastor is great.

I don't know what you're talking about.

And that's fine.

If you have a great pastor, a great church, then good for you.

You should be very happy for that and grateful.

But to deny that this is a problem is absurd.

We know that the faith is decaying in this culture.

It's very clear.

And you look at any indicator, starting with church attendance, it's lower than it's ever been.

There's more atheists in this country than there's ever been.

You just go right down the line.

And it strikes me that, at least from my experience and from talking to people, that the main problem isn't that people are going to church and they're hearing heresy and blasphemy.

Well, they're hearing that too, so that's a problem.

But even more than that, it's not that.

It's just this nothingness.

It's just this, it's like you're going to church and the person talking to you doesn't understand, doesn't realize

what century they're living in or who they're talking.

It's like it is a complete disconnect from, you walk in and it is completely disconnected from the world you just left and not in a good way.

Right.

It's as if it could be 1950, it could be, you know, 1800, it could be 2024.

There's no connection at all to my life.

It feels that way to me.

Yeah, and to the and to the struggles that we're,

it should feel not disconnected, but it should feel like an oasis of sorts, you know, like

you're in a safe place.

A sanctuary is what they used to call it, and it's what it's supposed to be.

See,

I may point something out to you because I wonder if

we're saying two different things, because

I was just asked to be a part of the bishopric in my faith, and

it's a lay

ministry.

And we're wrestling with this very thing.

And

I said, you know, sanctuary, it needs to be a sanctuary for God's people to be able to come and be safe.

And you can say anything.

But, you know, the name Israel itself means wrestle with God.

God expects you to wrestle with him.

He expects you to ask tough questions.

He expects his people to say, wait a minute, hang on just a second.

And what's happening is I think

our churches should be spiritual hospitals.

I'm coming in there every day and I need triage.

Please help me, help me, help me.

I need

spiritual medicine all the time.

And instead, what's happening is our churches are turning into some place that is either an entertainment center

or it is a place where all the people think that they're doctors and they're talking about all of the other patients that they need to help.

I think that's upside down.

I think it's like churches today, or what's that dumb?

Well, I didn't like it that much, that Robin Williams movie where he was a pretended to be a clown for Patch Adams.

It's a weird reference to bring into the chat.

Well, I'm saying people are dying, and so the doctor puts on a clown nose and makes them laugh, which is great, but they also need medistic.

They need medicine.

It's like if I'm going to a hospital, it's great to make me smile, but also treat what's killing me.

I don't want it.

Doctor just comes in with a paper.

I don't know if you just watched the trailer of Patch Adams.

He was a very good doctor as well.

Let's put this reference to the side.

My point is,

churches are like what I've just imagined Patch Adams to be, which is,

let's ignore the actual cancer that these people have, what they're struggling with, and let's just make them smile.

So, here's the argument, the pushback, because I've talked to pastors, and quite honestly, this is happening

in conservative media it's happening in uh liberal media as well it's happening all over no no no but if i say those things then i'll diminish the audience or i'll just i'll diminish the number of people who are coming to this church and uh and then i won't have a voice at all where my feeling is you're not going to have a voice at all anyway

You have to understand.

You just keep going along.

There's no way.

Why would anyone come to you when I can get it from watching Patch Adams or I can get get it from watching Toy Story?

I need somebody who has something real, authentic, and eternally true to tell me that will help me next week.

Right, exactly.

But nobody's doing that because they're afraid people are going to leave.

Right, but there's no reason for that.

You're not giving them anything that they need.

There's no reason for you to exist unless you tell them the things that might make them leave.

And I think that if we get to a point, it would be great in this country.

Separate the wheat from the chaff.

Let's figure out where we actually stand as Christians.

So if every church operated this way and they got up and they told the unvarnished truth and, you know, and you had a church of 100 people and 98 of them get up in the middle of the homily or the sermon and march out and you leave two there, well, then great, because those are the two.

Those are the actual two Christians.

Let's start there.

Now we know how many actual Christians we have in this church, two.

Let's start with them.

Let's build them up, give them what they need.

And then maybe they can go out because this is the whole point.

They're supposed to go out into the mission field and go win back back the other 98.

But

when you're not, so it's really the two.

It's the two that you need to kind of cater to.

You need to give them what they need because here's the problem.

If you lose those two, but you keep the 98,

then you're done.

You're not really a church anymore.

Yeah.

They're leaves that will blow away in the fall wind.

So going back to your story here on the blaze, because this is interesting.

Are you making the point that

they have to make sure they're making the uncomfortable points in any way possible and not skimming from that?

Or are you making the point that they shouldn't be making these points via the vehicle of toy story recipes?

So hang on.

That's an important question.

Are you okay with a spoonful of medicine?

A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down?

Are you saying that there's just nothing in those?

If there's medicine.

Yeah, if there actually is medicine in it, but what we're getting is the sugar, but there's no medicine.

So it's just sugar makes the sugar go down, which is great, but there's no medicine.

It's a good way to diabetes as well.

Yeah, that's a good way to get diabetes.

Now, if you can figure out a way to use Toy Story to make some deep spiritual

point that's going to like satiate the deep yearnings of these Christian believers, then you're very talented and great.

Go for it.

And you have seen much more in Toy Story than I saw because I've seen a movie many times, and all I see is talking toys.

But if you see something deeper in it, then great, make that point.

But in my case, all he made was the point that, yeah, let's make friends with people.

Well, I just want, just, then just put on the movie Toy Story and let us watch that.

At least it'd be more entertaining anyway.

Yeah, because Tim Allen and everything's in it.

Because you made a point earlier about

bringing the tough truth, right?

And you have to make sure you're giving the tough truth.

And you did that with an illustration of, well, a kind of an illustration of the trailer of Patch Adams.

In a way, I mean, that made, like, that's an effective.

way of making those points.

If you bring the truth through those vehicles, I don't necessarily mind it.

I will say it's a sad circumstance that christians have to get that message through movies and it's more relatable because of movies jesus spoke in parables yeah like i mean i've actually from the pulpit i have actually and this this made a lot of people very angry but i actually

i talked about willy wonka and and the golden ticket and and i tied it into a gospel i know i tied it into a gospel message i mean i think it can be done it can

just yeah if if but if i'm if i'm talking about hey and by the way you can lick the wallpaper on the way out no uh uh no you can't.

Yeah, it can be done if, and that's something, and you're right, Jesus used parables that were very simple to appeal so that the people that were listening could understand it.

But obviously, the point he was making was very deep.

And sometimes the points he was making were,

frankly, terrifying.

And he was finding a way to package it so that, not just so it would be palatable, but so that we could wrap our minds around this concept.

So if people are doing that, then fantastic.

But that also takes a certain level of insight and talent that I think a lot of pastors just lack, which is no, you know,

I don't think you need to be necessarily a brilliant public speaker to be a pastor.

You know, there could be normal people

that are taking these jobs.

But if you're in that camp, then I think you need to just be more direct.

And even if you're just writing it down and you're reading from it, but just tell the people the truth that they need to hear.

Don't try to get too cute with it

unless you really are a brilliant orator, which most of these people aren't.

Thanks, Pat.

You read the story from Matt Walsh up at theblaze.com.

And how many times a week

are you doing columns on this?

Two times a week, then I got a podcast.

Nice.

Yeah, the podcast is too.

Great to listen to that as well.

Matt Walsh.

Thanks, Matt.

Thank you.

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I have to tell you,

Jim Carrey, this Jim Carrey thing that, you know, people celebrated last week when he was talking about God and then celebrated this week because he was taking on the left.

He was saying the same thing.

And I have really, I think, a really important perspective that I want to share with you on

finally finding what really matters through Jim Kerry.

Also coming up in just a minute, Bill O'Reilly, we're going to talk a little bit about DACA and what happened with the president.

Anxious to hear what his take on this is with Breitbart coming out.

Breitbart editor, what was the editor's quote to the, here it is, to the Washington Post.

Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself he wasn't elected to do this that's a breitbart editor

um

people are upset and they should be daca taxes we have 17 days to get health care uh reform finished or you got to start all over again and no uh no reconciliation there so you'd have to get 60 votes for anything and that's not going to happen it's not going to happen you have 17 days it's not going to happen.

It's amazing they blew this.

Can you believe we're here?

We got through this this entire time and they're going to blow the Obamacare repeal thing.

That is absolutely incredible.

Incredible.

I mean, you just throw your hands up and you realize that this is the way it is.

This is what we should expect and we're the idiots for expecting anything different.

But it is amazing.

But I don't think we did.

I really don't think.

There's a good portion of America that did not buy into it.

We hoped.

We hoped.

We prayed.

But we didn't think it would actually turn out any differently than it is.

And I'm anxious to hear Bill's take on could it get worse from here?

Glenn, back.

Love.

Courage.

Truth.

Well, Donald Trump promised that he would make deals, and that's exactly what he did last night.

The president had dinner last night where he apparently struck a deal with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi again.

There were no Republicans there.

His supporters are furious.

Breitbart is furious.

Drudge is furious.

The White House this morning is starting to walk it back.

The deal reportedly enshrines the protections of DACA into law quickly

and will work out a package of border security.

The deal does not include any funding for the wall.

So, here's what happened.

The Democrats have achieved their policy goal of turning DACA into law.

And the Republicans, what did we get exactly?

Here's what we got.

We got a commitment from Democrats to work on border security.

On the positive side, if we are going to live by DACA, it is better that Congress passes it into law than being an executive program.

That is the only positive I can find.

To the deal, two things are true.

One, making a deal is not bad if you get something good out of it.

Two,

Trump got nothing good out of this deal, at least that we know of.

Because the Democrats are always going to promise, we're going to work on a border security package, we're going to work on a border security package, We're going to work.

Yeah, they never do.

The Republicans never do.

We're expecting the Democrats to do it?

A good deal would have included real immigration reforms, real border enforcement.

Look at this from the Democratic angle.

If Trump reverses himself, they get to call him cruel and paint him as the bad guy trying to hurt these young adults affected by DACA.

If he instead keeps his word, they get their policy goal and the GOP gets a promise to work together.

You need to know this.

Somebody's getting played.

I don't know who it is, but I know for sure it is not Chuck and it is not Nancy.

It's Thursday, September 14th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Normally on Fridays we have Mr.

Bill O'Reilly, but I am

I'm actually going to speak and having

dinner this weekend with Paul Kagame, the former president of

Rwanda,

who is an amazing, amazing guy.

And

it's proved to be interesting.

But I'm also been asked to speak at a three-day conference at a place called

the Nantucket

Project, which tries to bring people together on

forgiveness and healing and a way forward.

I will be having brunch with Garbenghuli Barak Medadoff from Turkmenistan.

Briefly, yeah, really.

Next Wednesday,

10.30 a.m.

IHOP.

Really?

International.

International.

So it's an international pancake kind of moment.

So anyway, Bill O'Reilly is with us today instead of on Friday, which he normally is, but I'm glad he's here because I want to talk to him a lot about the deal, you know, making a deal with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and the spin that is going to come out of the White House now and the spin that is already coming out from Nancy and Chuck.

And where are we going from here?

Welcome to the program, Bill O'Reilly from BillO'Reilly.com.

You are so lucky to have me on this program today.

No, I.

You are.

You are.

I woke up this morning and I thought to myself, if I could only get more lucky and then you were lucky because I am going to be able to define this so even you understand it.

Right, okay, go ahead, talk down to me.

You are very lucky.

But first, I just wanted to give a plug because I'm having lunch with Ricky Buffinats.

Are you really?

Yeah,

who once traveled to Bolivia

and

he wants healing.

But he's not, but he's, hang on just a second, but he's actually,

he's not a,

he didn't go there for any reason.

He just, he just went one time.

He wanted to be healed, so he went.

Okay, all right, good.

I'm going to figure out if he was healed or not.

Good, okay.

Good ass ricky

lunch with a rival.

All right.

All right, Dick.

All right, so now I got to, I have to now walk you through what's happening on DACA.

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

First of all, Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer

want to destroy Donald Trump.

Yes.

Fact number one.

Yes.

Should I write this down?

Will there be a test?

Yes.

I'll have somebody else write it down for you because

I know your handwriting.

All right.

To destroy.

Got it.

Fact number one.

Pelosi, Schumer want to destroy Trump.

Got it.

Fact number two.

Two.

They know the fastest way to do that

is to get Trump's base

angry with him.

Right.

Okay?

All right.

The quickest way to do that is

to turn

his supporters against him.

Got it.

Okay.

So, therefore, anything

that Schumer and Pelosi say,

throw right out the window.

Right.

Okay.

That's number one.

No, that's number two.

No, this would be number three.

Number one was they're going to try to destroy.

Okay, but

I'm in categories now.

So that's category A at one and two, and now we're in category B right.

Go ahead.

All right.

It's easier with the graphics next to you.

Yes, go ahead.

No one, including the president,

knows how this DACA thing is going to turn out.

Because the Republicans have to write a bill.

Very difficult for these pinheads to do because that requires them getting out of the gym.

All right.

They have to actually go to their desk and write a bill.

Right, right.

Don't like that.

They have to write a bill that says, all right, here's the new law that's going to cover 800,000 so-called DREAMers, illegal aliens who were taken here by their parents, and they had no say about it.

They came, and what are we going to do with them?

Republicans write the bill.

In that bill, could be anything.

Could be anything.

We don't know.

All right?

So Trump doesn't have any input as far as what's going to happen to the Dreamers.

It's all Congress.

All right.

And then the bill comes out and Trump says, I like it or I don't like it.

Are you with me?

You still with me?

We just want to make sure.

A, A, you didn't give me a topic, but under A is number one, they're trying to destroy the president.

Two, fastest way to do it is anger is base.

B, no one knows what's going to be in this bill because it hasn't been written.

under that.

Point one, Republicans don't like to work.

Point two, Republicans could write anything.

They could write a bill that replaces Nancy Pelosi with a chicken.

Right.

I've got it so far.

Okay, so good.

Beck, you're really.

I know I am.

I'm taking notes.

The Pelosi-Chicken Act I'm behind that, but

all of us, loyal Americans who want the best for our country, should stop now with the speculation, which gets us nowhere, and wait until this bill comes out.

Now, it is worthy that you and other commentators tell President Trump what you would like to see in the bill.

Okay, this is what we're doing.

What do you think we did during the election?

Okay.

Well, no, because the dreamer thing is a little bit more complicated.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, it's not.

Here's what the American people, here's what I believe the American people were actually saying, beyond all the hyperbole and everything else.

This is what the American people were saying during the election.

Look, that is a really complex issue.

I don't know what to do.

I don't want to hurt people.

I'm not a racist, but I want border security.

So I'm not.

Hang on, wait, wait, wait.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

No, no, no.

Going over ground that is inevitable.

So it's inevitable

that the Republicans will put

some kind

of stringent border security, maybe even a sank city thing, in the bill.

They have to and they will.

That will be there, Beck.

Do not worry about that.

But there are other things that are going to happen.

Number one, Trump does not want to deport these dreamers.

That's obvious.

He doesn't want it because he has to expand his base a little bit.

And the polls overwhelmingly show that Americans are open to a fair deal for these people, these kids who were brought here.

So he's not going to deport 800,000.

That's not.

So

when he said

in interview after interview after interview, yes, they're all going home.

Was he.

I don't, when he says that, he doesn't think about the dreamers.

No, no, it was specifically.

No, no, no, no, no.

It was specifically about the dreamers.

We checked the audio.

It was specifically.

Do you have the audio that Trump said, Dreamers?

You have Yes.

We'll get it here.

I'll get it for you in a second, but go ahead.

All right, no, no, you don't have to get it from me.

I believe you.

Okay, all right.

I believe you.

Okay.

All right.

So that's not going to happen now.

It's not.

All right.

He's not going to deport 800,000.

And I'll tell you why, because I told this to him to his face in an interview.

The courts would block that until the year 2099.

Yes, you're right.

Okay?

Thank you back.

Yes.

Everybody knows it's not going to happen.

So let's stop the BS and get a fair bill that would strengthen border security and

anarchy and eliminate anarchy in the United States about illegal immigration.

So, okay, so then so

I have to go back here.

So has the last two years of us saying little Marco

is making a deal with Chuck Schumer and the gang of eight and there's no amnesty, mark my words, there's no amnesty.

It will not happen.

All of that, hang on.

I know you're just clearing the throat, but that means you're about to talk.

Hang on.

So the last two years of finger pointing and actually having, being the catalyst to have half of the country point to the other half and say, what a bunch of racists you are.

You're completely unreasonable.

You are lumping everybody in the same boat.

All of that,

all of that division, all of that hatred, all of that was for what purpose?

For what purpose?

I don't know, Beck.

That's way too complicated for you.

It's not.

No, it's not.

You're smart enough, you don't want to answer.

It's way over my head.

You just don't want to answer it.

I just want to tell you what's going to happen.

Right.

Right?

I don't, I can't.

I can't talk to the president of Rwanda.

I can't.

I don't have the ability or the intellect.

Yes, you can.

You do not want to.

The man

who ran Rwanda.

I can't.

That's your job.

All right.

Here's what's going to happen.

All right.

There will be some compromise.

Trump has already strengthened the border to a degree that we haven't had ever.

Ever.

Yeah.

All right.

All of the Republicans.

All of the Republicans.

All of the Republicans, with an exception of maybe Kasich.

All of the Republicans, the 17 that he destroyed because they would make a deal with Nancy Pelosi, they were for amnesty, they were for the Gang of Eight.

They weren't going to,

you can't believe them that they're going to build a wall, that they're going to do that.

All of them would have done, with the exception of John Kasich, exactly what he has done so far without the division and the hatred and the pitting against each other.

But the fact, and I love that word fact,

is that in the six months he's been been sitting there in the Oval Office, immigration on the southern border

has been enforced more

than ever in our lifetime.

That's a fact, and it's not going to get any more lax.

It'll get more stringent.

Here's another fact.

Until he's gone.

And replaced by a Republican.

Until he's gone.

And a Democrat.

And then when the President of Rwanda comes over and runs this.

No, don't try to weasel out of this.

That was the point of why we wanted a wall, because nothing is ever permanent.

Nothing is ever permanent.

Well, do you have time?

Do you have to take a break?

Do you want to know about the wall now?

No,

I'm going to take a break.

And Bill O'Reilly from billoreilly.com is where you can find him.

And if you want this kind of

fact-driven nonsense, you can find it at billorilly.com back in just a second.

I want want to talk to statues too.

Oh, yeah.

Believe me, I've got a list of things to talk to you about.

BillO'Reilly.com is we're going to go for the podcast, and hopefully, he'll be referencing the Paul Kagame statue.

Shut up,

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So, what's the wall?

Is what I ask about to Bill O'Reilly.

What's the wall about?

Number one, fact.

Okay, we're back to the facts.

I know that upsets you.

Okay.

There's not going to be any wall

in the bill about the Dreamers because that would mobilize opposition from 100%

of the Democrats and some Republicans as well.

So they're not going to have that in there, in the bill.

Now, some people will be angry about that, but think, step back.

Trump's going to build his wall.

He doesn't need legislation to build it.

He can do it by executive order.

He can do it by using Homeland Security funds, of which there are gazillions of dollars available.

He can do it and he will do it.

But it's not going to be a wall from Brownsville to San Diego.

It's not going to be that.

It's going to be in certain places where it's easier to smuggle narcotics.

The wall is basically a detriment against narcotics, not people.

So they will build some of it.

It will come from orders from Donald Trump, but it's not going to be enshrined anywhere because it's too polarizing.

So that's what's going to happen.

That is stance against Bill O'Reilly.

Absolutely everything I stand for as a constitutionalist.

I know it does.

What you've just described is, as a constitutionalist, you have said through executive order, he will do things that are temporary.

I am against it as a constitutionalist, and I am against it as a person.

I mean, maybe they could knock it down if you elect Bernie Sanders, but you have to live in the real world, and the real world is two things here.

Trump knows he has to build the wall, some semblance of it.

He has to, all right, and he will.

But he's not going to get permission from Congress to do it because there are not enough votes there.

It's as simple as that.

So you've got to live in the real world deck if you want to get anything done at all.

I understand the constitutionalists.

I understand all that.

But, you know, this is hand-to-hand combat.

Donald Trump is going to survive the presidency.

He's going to get re-elected.

All right.

He's got to do certain things that you're just not going to like.

Okay.

So when he says, can we play cut five of

audio cut five, please?

This is President Trump talking about taxes.

Cut five.

Do you have it?

Okay, sorry about that.

Yeah.

I'm curious on this because

he obviously said during the campaign that it was going to be a wall that went for the whole border, right?

He did say that.

He said a lot of things, but he doesn't understand at that point what it takes to get that stuff done.

Okay, so hang on.

Here he is on tax.

You know what?

I don't have enough.

This is a 59-second cut.

Let me just read this.

Taxes paid by the wealthy will likely stay the same under the new tax plan, but if they have to go higher, they're going to go higher.

What does he stand for, Bill?

What can I trust?

He's trying to be a populist.

He's trying to appeal to working class and middle-class voters.

He knows that's where his base is.

So that's what he stands for.

Is that healthy for a country?

Populism, is it good?

I would like to see populism combined with astute analysis.

I think if you got a politician who had both, who was, you know, really felt for the working people, but was astute in how to get things done, then you'd have something.

But we don't seem to be able to produce politicians.

All right.

When we come back, Bill O'Reilly is going to take on a couple of things.

One, the statues.

Yeah.

And we'll talk a little bit about that.

Also, because it's getting crazy.

Also, we're going to try to get to the latest from ESPN.

And I know how much Bill O'Reilly loves.

Hillary Clinton and has probably spent all week just up late at night reading her book.

Her latest poll number show, most Americans want her to go away.

Bill's opinion coming up.

Glenn back.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I'm really tired of hearing people's opinion.

There are very few people's opinion that matter to me.

I mean,

I barely can say my own opinion.

Everybody has one.

I got it.

What I'm interested in, facts and perspective.

And one of the best is Bill O'Reilly.

And we welcome him to the program from billo'reilly.com.

I'm going to be gone tomorrow.

I'm having dinner with Winston Churchill tomorrow night, so I will not be here.

But we're going to talk about peace and war and everything in between.

And I'll give you a report on that on Monday.

But Bill O'Reilly,

give me the facts on what's happening with the statues.

All right.

I think you and I are of one mind on this because very early on, after Robert E.

Lee's statue was the subject of that incredible controversy in Charlottesville, we both said it's not going to end with Lee.

They're coming after Washington and Jefferson and other founding fathers, right?

You said that too, I believe.

Yes, I did.

Yep.

Okay.

So we both said it

not in collusion.

There was no Russian collusion here.

No, I don't know.

Back on his Blaze and O'Reilly on BillO'Reilly.com said it independently.

All right, so now it's happened.

So Black Lives Matter and other radical groups are demanding that Thomas Jefferson's statue be taken down in Charlottesville.

Jefferson founded the University of Virginia, which is there, and lived there.

Okay, so this plays right into my wheelhouse because I have a book coming out Tuesday called Killing England: The Brutal Struggle for American Independence.

Shut up.

It's like I thought, if there is a way I could get Bill O'Reilly to talk about his legitimate way.

This is a legitimate way.

Because I write about Thomas Jefferson.

Shut up.

Shut up.

What he did about

in slavery and he had slaves and how he behaved

and his whole life.

Bill, can I ask you a question about Thomas Jefferson?

First of all,

how do we get the word out that Thomas Jefferson led the fight in Virginia to try to be able to release his slaves.

It was the...

That's in the book.

But you're missing that.

But I mean, some way that people will read it or find it.

Let me illuminate, okay?

All right, okay.

In order to win this debate, Beck,

traditional Americans have to have the facts.

They have to know what Thomas Jefferson just did.

You just said it.

You just said it.

That the man was very conflicted about slavery.

And we, in Killing England, you'll see exactly how conflicted he was and what he did and the other actions that led to our independence.

Hang on just a second.

I don't think he was.

I mean, he's the guy who said, because I know God is just,

I fear, I tremble for my country.

That was about slavery.

No, but he agonized about the line,

all men are created equal.

Yes, yes, he did do that.

He agonized about

because he said we're not including African Americans.

So if you read the book, he's a conflicted man on the issue, okay?

But the overarch of what he did, what George Washington did, because they're going to come after Washington, he was a slaveholder, too, is amazing.

And you've got to know that in order to ward off the far-left kooks.

Now, why are they doing the statues?

Here's what it's all about, Beck.

It's not about the statues of Lee or Jefferson or Washington or any of that.

It's about undermining the entire Constitution of this country.

The far left believes that we are a nation founded by white supremacists, okay?

And that our Constitution reflects that.

So we got to do away with that and have a new constitution.

That's what this is all about, that you run down the founding fathers, you run down the philosophy on which the country was founded, and you replace it with a socialist manifesto.

Now, you're going to say, oh, Riley, you're the conspiratorialist, this, that.

No.

This is exactly the conversations that are taking place within the precincts of Black Lives Matter, the anti-FA movement, and some in the mainstream media who sympathize with that.

Now you can segue into Jamel Hill,

the girl on ESPN, the woman on ESPN, okay, who tweets that Trump is a white supremacist and he's surrounded by them.

Okay, now, you got a question about Hill?

Yeah, well, I just want to,

I didn't want to transition there, but I mean, all of a sudden I lost control of the show.

So

I'd like to go back to the Star-Spangled Banner and

the fight on slavery.

It is incumbent upon each of us, and Bill is true, and

it kills me to promote a stupid freaking book, but he is right, and his book does cover this.

And we need to know who these people were.

When it comes to the Star-Spangled Banner, the fifth stanza is all about slavery.

When our land is illuminated with liberty's smile, if a foe from within strike blow or glory, down, down the traitor who dares to defile her flag of stars in the pages of her story.

By the millions unchained who our birthright have gained, we will keep her bright blazing forever unstained.

Yesterday they went after Francis Scott Key.

This is revisionist history and it has to stop.

Well, it's only going to stop if the people rise up.

No,

if the people educate.

I think you're wrong on that.

I think it will only happen when the people educate themselves.

Okay.

Then they will rise up.

You rise up with education and you're effective.

Yes.

You rise up with emotion and you don't know anything.

We are only slaves to...

We are truly being

slaves to lies right now.

We are slaves to others who are manipulating us because we have not done what every slave, as soon as they became free, the first thing they did was try to get an education, try to learn, try to read.

We're not doing any of it, and we're chaining ourselves, and we are going to be slaves of some other master if we don't educate ourselves.

Well, that's very well said.

And, you know, again, I'm lucky in the sense that when I wrote Killing England, I didn't have any idea.

that within a year, the anti-Fa movement and the socialistic movement would be as intimidating as it is now.

But I'm glad I wrote the book.

It's almost a miracle because if you want to know who Jefferson, Washington, and Benjamin Franklin actually were as people, and you read the book, you'll know.

Jesus, you can fight off the book.

We just can fight off the forces of darkness.

They're coming.

All I wanted to do was talk about ESPN.

And now he's just going on.

So now, hang on.

Here's the question on ESPN.

The big thing on ESPN is everybody's saying they've got a double standard.

No, they don't.

This is the same standard.

You will fire anyone who has a non-progressive big government view

or a small government view, and you will cheer on and excuse anyone who has a progressive PC

pro-big government view.

They're completely consistent.

Well, they've destroyed the network.

Yes.

All right.

So ESPN is a shadow of what it used to be, and it's not coming back.

All right.

So that's number one.

And the reason is people watch that network for sports, not to have somebody like Jamil Hill accuse the president and his cabinet of being white supremacist.

They don't watch for that.

You know, MSNBC should hire the woman because that's what they do.

So, Bill, have you ever heard anybody ever even question,

even question

the president and his relationship with race so in other words have you ever heard anyone say things like i think this president may be a racist i think this president may have a deep dark uh uh unsettled feeling about white people you ever heard anybody say that because i remember somebody did and they questioned what the intent was and it was heralded as the biggest mistake on planet earth how dare you ever question that?

And now somebody at ESPN can say,

not to question, not question,

but to make the statement, he's a white supremacist and everybody's fine.

Well, not everybody's fine.

There's a big, big controversy about it.

I don't think the woman should be fired on the left.

Although they not on the left, because they concur.

Yes.

But, you know, they fired Kurt Schilling and,

you know,

he

was a French conservative.

Right.

He did the same thing.

It was a little bit more because Schilling had an illustration of a transgendered person that was

pretty offensive, I would say.

I don't remember it exactly.

So I'd have to remember that.

They could have suspended him and they could have brought him back.

But they don't, they being Disney, Disney runs, and a lot of people don't know this, Disney owns ESPN.

Right.

But Disney doesn't have, as you pointed out, any respect for the conservative American thought process.

But I wouldn't fire the woman.

I don't think that's the right way to handle it.

I think that you basically say to her, you don't really know what you're talking about with all due respect, Ms.

Hill.

All right.

This isn't what's going on here.

And the fact that you believe it is, you're entitled to that, but you're in a position of responsibility, particularly with younger African Americans, and you're really abusing that because you can't back that statement up.

You know, you can't back it up.

And what you're doing is you're denigrating the country, just like Colin Kaepernick did.

And

if people object to that, their views are just as viable as your views.

So you're going to have to take what comes, which is criticism and lower ratings, because that's where it's going.

And, Bill, I think this is what you're saying.

But, I mean,

in fact, they handle these situations many different ways.

The Jamel Hill way is the way they actually should handle it.

Yes.

Right?

I mean, like, they should come in and say it's your own private thing.

We don't think that's the right way for you to be handling this, especially if people might think it's from ESPN.

But, you know, whatever.

We'll give you a little slap on the wrist or at least a talking tour, whatever, and you'll come back and do the show.

The problem is how they handle all the other cases.

But with Schilling, you have that cartoon.

But, you know, you don't even have to go to Schilling.

You really don't have to go to Schilling.

Chink in the armor, the guerrilla warfare.

Guerrilla Warfare.

I mean, there's two people that lost their jobs for phrases that have nothing to do with race,

and they went crazy.

And it's.

Well, there's there's no doubt there's a double standard.

There's hypocrisy all over the place.

But I think that traditional Americans who believe in fairness have to rise above the hypocrisy.

And you know what?

Here's what you do.

You just don't watch.

You just don't watch.

And that's been going on now for years.

They've been bailing out ASPN for years.

And other networks that are not honest or are doing something that the folks deem offensive don't watch.

I will tell you this.

If you really want to make an impact, you don't watch, of course.

But if you really want to make an impact, you let Disney know I'm not taking my kids to your park

because they know that would do it.

Yeah, they only care about the mouse, that's all they care about.

They care, look, every corporation, it's money first, there's no doubt about it.

And on that note, we want everybody to pre-order Killing England and it comes out Tuesday.

That's a solid segue right there.

There you go.

Bill, do I have to endure this again on Tuesday when it comes out?

And next Friday.

I don't know if I can do it two times a week.

All right.

Well, we'll get you some oxygen and, you know, we'll do what we have to do.

No, believe me, there's enough air in here, hot air, when you're around.

I don't need any more.

Bill, good to have you.

Thank you.

We'll talk to you again.

All right.

Thanks to having me in.

Bill O'Reilly, the book is called Killing England.

It is coming out on Tuesday.

You, of course, can also go to his website and sign up at billo'reilly.com.

You know, I love, I love, I really love my relationship with Bill O'Reilly.

Same with Don Imas.

You know, here are two guys that are, you know, they didn't, they are the legends.

They are the legends of their generation.

They're the ones that I, you know, I watched for years.

And they are, they both can hit hard and take a punch, and neither of them

insist that you agree with them, which is the way it's supposed to be.

I will say,

Bill is much more, is much happier.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's remarkable.

I mean, just from judging, because when he was doing the Fox thing, he'd come on the show.

Yeah, he's happy.

And, you know, he'd do his thing.

Yeah.

He seems like he's actually enjoying life these days.

Yeah.

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Glenn back.

Ben Shapiro is in Berkeley tonight.

Hopefully, he'll be on the air tomorrow

and talk about that.

Talk about that experience.

I mean, that's assuming that the person that is going to be doing this show wants to have Ben Shapiro on.

We'd love to have Ben on.

We're fans.

Yes.

And it should be pretty crazy.

I love how.

You're hosting tomorrow, are you not?

Yes, myself and

Mr.

Pat Gray, Pat and Stew Reunion Tour.

I'm having brunch with Elon Musk on Mars this weekend.

That's not quite true, but almost.

I'm amazed to see the way

they've been tweeting.

Have you seen the reports about the Mars part is, yes.

The Ben Shapiro thing?

They're saying Berkeley is bracing for a speech from Ben Shapiro.

Now, Ben is a really smart guy.

And, you know, he can be a surgeon with his words, but he is not a scary individual.

They are bracing for the violence that is coming from Antifa because Ben Shapiro is going to mention lower taxes or something.

It's crazy.

I really.

Because he is really not.

He's a guy who doesn't raise his voice.

He does not throw bombs around.

He just states facts.

I love Ben Shapiro because he's just fact-driven.

He's like, no, that's not the way it is.

It's this way.

It's this way.

It's this way.

And

the left just cannot handle it.

I'm torn because they want to burn Berkeley down to the ground.

Oh, I mean, okay.

I mean, if that's what you want to do, okay, I guess.

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Love,

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truth.

When it comes to feeling offended, we choose whether or not we're going to indulge in that feeling.

We choose.

Are you going to be offended or not?

It's our choice.

Tonight, Ben Shapiro is going to speak at UC Berkeley, and Shapiro speaks at colleges all the time.

And he speaks at colleges without a ruckus most of the time.

He is, he's a buttoned-down guy.

He's not a flamethrower.

He just speaks the truth with reason, facts, and

common sense.

So his appearance at Berkeley would probably go unnoticed by most of the country if it wasn't for headlines like this we found in the LA Times.

Berkeley braces for right-wing talk show host Ben Shapiro's visit.

What?

They brace for it?

A guy's coming to talk to

college students.

UC Berkeley is going to have a perimeter closed off outside the building where the oh-so-intimidating Shapiro is speaking.

The university is also, they are going, I am not making this up, they are going to have counseling services available for students because they are

deeply concerned about some speakers and what those speakers may have, you know, the impact that they may make on individuals' sense of safety and belonging.

If a student gets their feelings hurt by Ben Shapiro's speech,

it will be because the student chooses to get their feelings hurt.

If protesters turn

violent and set fires,

that will be because someone decided to get violent and set fires.

It won't be Shapiro's fault.

It will be because the protesters chose

to do that.

I mean, do your freaking homework, man.

The left fails to understand a fundamental thing about how to deal with a person or a group that they don't like.

The more they fret about said person or group, the more attention they're going to draw to them.

Growing up, they must not have had the mom who told them, ignore your younger brother.

Ignore your sister.

Stop, stop.

Just stop noticing and they will stop.

My parents told me choose not to engage.

Ignore it.

And it's not like Shapiro or Ann Coulter or Steve Bannon are pining to speak at the University of Nebraska or something.

They're going where the attention is.

If Berkeley students hate these speakers so much, the best way to get rid of them is stay at home.

Don't protest.

Ignore them.

No one will know who they are.

But they don't do that

because

they're actually not...

They're not really worried about Ben Shapiro or anybody's speech.

That's not what they're trying to do.

They are trying to increase anger, discord, conflict, and chaos.

For them and them alone,

choosing to be offended is good for their business.

It's Thursday, September 14th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So yesterday, I started to talk about Jim Carrey.

And I want you to know there's two things that I want to try to bring to you every day.

And one is the facts.

What are the facts?

Two, perspective.

If you know what the story is, is there a different way to look at it?

Everybody has an opinion.

I could tell you my opinion, which generally ends up with something that sounds a lot like, and that's why I know I'm right.

I'm more interested in perspective because the groups are all just changing words and trying to reword the same opinion, and it's not getting us anywhere.

I would like to start with,

wait a minute,

have you tried looking at it this way?

That's perspective.

So this perspective on Jim Carrey, I think is really important because I think what Jim Carrey is going through and what we have just witnessed, that the press spent a day last week celebrating on the right.

He's a Jesus guy.

He's our Jesus guy.

Look, he's found Jesus.

How great is this?

Okay, that's good.

That's good.

That's a good.

That's a good opinion on what happened.

Then, two days ago,

the left

was very angry, and the right was celebrating.

Look, he's just punched the left, the phony phone, phony phone, phones.

He's busted them in the face.

Look at this.

He went to Fashion Week, and he's telling all those phonies.

He's telling them off.

Okay, again, a valid opinion.

But I don't think that's what this means at all.

And I think what we can learn from these two pieces of audio

are life-changing.

So first, let me give you the facts.

Here's the first cut.

This is what he said this weekend edited, or just a couple of days ago, edited at a fashion week.

I run in to Jim Carey.

Wait, tell me, is it true you're wandering the streets?

You need a date to the party?

What's up?

No, no, no.

I'm doing just fine.

I just, you know, there's no meaning to any of this.

So I wanted to find the most meaningless thing that I could come to and join.

And

here I am.

I mean, you got to admit, it's completely meaningless.

Well, they say they're celebrating icons inside of you.

Celebrating icons.

Boy, that is just the absolute lowest aiming, you know, possibility that we could come up with.

It's like icons.

Do you believe in icons?

I don't believe in personalities.

I don't believe that you exist, but there is a wonderful fragrance in the air.

You don't believe certain icons have the power to make change, to think differently, to be bold, to inspire others?

Artistry?

You're one of them.

Yeah, no,

I don't believe in icons.

I don't believe in personalities.

I believe that peace lies beyond personality.

Okay.

That's an edited version, and it got weird,

really weird beyond that.

In fact, the headline was, Jim Carrey gets really bizarre at New York Fashion Week.

So before we get to perspective, one more fact.

Here's what the right was celebrating last week.

Listen to this edited version of what came out last week as he was speaking to Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles.

I really want to speak to the fact that I've had some challenges in the last couple of years myself

and

ultimately I believe that suffering leads to salvation and in fact it's the only way that we have to somehow

accept and not deny but feel our suffering and feel our losses

and

and then we make one of two decisions We either decide to go through the gate of resentment,

which leads to vengeance, which leads to self-harm,

which leads to harm to others, or we go through the gate of forgiveness, which leads to grace.

And

your

being here

is

an indication that you've made that decision already.

You've made the decision to walk through the gate of forgiveness to grace, just as Christ did on the cross.

so now perspective

what the hell just happened to jim carrey i thought he was the pet detective guy but

who is this guy is he crazy at fashion week or

has something happened to him

if you look at both of these side by side you will see all of our futures and he he said there you have a choice just like berkeley has a choice today.

Let him speak.

Let him speak and move on.

Or

let yourself give in to anger and violence and hatred.

And it will be destruction.

Jim Carrey has been going through multiple massive struggles in his life, which I believe has,

I think it's healthy.

I've never learned anything when I was

happy.

I was going to say fat and happy.

I'm fat now, and I seem to be learning a lot.

So

when you're content, you generally don't learn a lot.

It's when

you have real struggle in your life that you learn.

What the media is missing is in this audio clip from Homeboy Industries,

he called the audience heroes you're a hero to me

who is he talking to

he was talking to a

group of people who had formerly been in jail or in prison they were incarcerated and they were involved in gangs This is a rough crowd that he's talking to.

And he calls them

his heroes.

Why?

Because what he said was: we have two choices.

Something happens, and we have two choices, and we can fall in with anger, and vengeance, and hatred, which leads to self-harm,

or we can surrender, which leads to forgiveness and grace.

He said

to the guys at Homeboy Industries,

the former gang members in jail,

you guys are heroes because you've chosen grace

and you are here with the odds stacked against you and you are determined to go a different way.

So he's just met a hero, several heroes, just the week before, who are actually doing something and have

nothing and has have nobody heralding them, nobody helping them,

the world looking down on them.

They have everything stacked against them and they're determined to stand.

And then he gets on a plane and he goes to New York and he goes to Fashion Week.

And what does he walk into?

A Fashion Week tent that is celebrating, quote, icons.

Celebrity fashion icons

and I have to believe that he had exactly the same experience that I had on this radio program just a couple of weeks ago

a couple of weeks ago

I went in it was right after I had to lay off a lot of people and make really really tough decisions

And I have I have not been that torn apart in I don't know how long.

And I made those decisions and then I got into a plane and I went to Mexico to work with OUR, Operation Underground Railroad.

And I sat down with people who were actual former slaves, actual, chain around the neck, chain around the hands or the wrists.

chained to a wall, a floor, or a bed for up to two years, one of them beaten every day with with a broom handle, beaten so badly every time the broom handle would break.

And this person,

this person wasn't talking at all about being oppressed, wasn't asking even for help.

This person, and it was like this, one after another, after another, after another.

I'm going to show you the interviews soon.

None of them were crying anything.

They weren't crying.

They weren't even crying for help.

They were telling me, my life is a blank piece of paper and I am its only author.

No, wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

What about the guy who beat you with the broom handle?

And that was actually a woman.

What about that person?

Does that person not have any authorship in your life?

No.

Because if I choose to give that person authorship, my life story changes.

That is something that they chose to do and it has only made me stronger.

And I come back after

two days in Mexico.

I haven't paid attention to the news over the weekend, and I sit in this chair, and I hear the complaints, and the audio, and the news

of how these statues have to be pulled down because, my gosh, what oppressors?

These guys who have no effect on your life.

None.

It's a stupid stupid freaking statue.

It has no effect on your life unless you choose.

And I did a monologue on the air, and I've done several of them since.

And I don't know if you've heard them.

But I have said,

all of this is meaningless.

All of it is meaningless.

What are we doing?

What am I doing?

You know what got me there?

Pain.

Struggle.

Everything the world

wants to take away from you.

We are either popping a Xanax, an opioid,

Prozac.

We're escaping through hatred.

We're escaping through Facebook.

I'll be real honest with you.

Every weekend, people say to me, How do you go to so many movies?

Why do you go to so many?

I have to admit, to escape.

I want three hours of a week where I escape.

That is my advice.

I escape once a week at a movie theater.

We all have a choice, and I think Jim Carrey has made his choice and everyone in the media has missed it.

And that is,

I choose a different kind of hero.

I choose a hero who is actually,

has actually seen suffering and has seen the worst of the worst.

And now is not asking for a handout or anything else, is choosing to stand.

And they're going to author their own story.

That is a life worth living.

That

is an icon.

Or he could be completely insane.

We just want to throw that in at the end of that.

It could just be that he's completely insane.

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We have Pat Unleashed coming up in a second.

Also, an amazing story, an amazing story from Plano, Texas.

One that just

fell by the wayside.

It's a really big story.

Any other time in my lifetime, it would have been a really big story.

But it just kind of fell by the wayside and nobody picks it up, which is kind of leads to the perspective of that story and why I want to tell it to you coming up in just a second.

Not nearly as big a story as obviously what I'm about to bring to the table.

Yeah.

Eyebrow trends are constantly changing from ultra-thin in the 20s via arched brows in the 50s, as popularized by Marilyn Monroe, to the present day where thick natural brows have been given a high-fashion seal of approval.

Yet, don't even get us started on the latest brow-raising trends.

Monobrows.

Monobrows are making a comeback, Glenn, in the world of the world.

Wait, I didn't know that they ever had some place where they could come back, except for maybe perhaps cavemen days.

That was

popular then.

So think of now what they're, and then there's a lot of pictures of this.

It comes from Glamour magazine.

Lots of pictures of this, where you have this, like, really hot 25-year-old supermodel.

with like a caterpillar crawling across her face in between her eyes.

Was Brooke Shields kind of like that?

I mean, I saw, I can't believe, I cannot believe I say this.

It shows you I read way too much.

But I read this article or one like this, and he used Frida, the artist,

as

the icon.

And I'm like, well, no, no, she wasn't pretty.

No,

she was not pretty.

That wasn't what she was known for.

No, she also had a mustache.

I don't think that we need to, you know what I'm saying?

This is the world we live in where Melania Trump gets criticized for her appearance.

Yes.

And monobrows are coming back into fashion.

And it goes right right directly to the perspective from Jim Carrey.

It's all worthless.

Glenn back.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

So if you live here in the Dallas-Fort Worth area,

On Sunday night, you might have been cleaning up.

The kids are in bed and you're just cleaning the dishes and putting things away as you're getting ready for Monday.

And maybe the TV was on and the 10 o'clock news comes on and you might have heard a report that talked about a shooting

in Plano, Texas.

Eight people shot and killed after someone opened fire at a home.

Plano is a suburb of Dallas.

It's a big city growing.

It happens, right?

For most people, I think this story slipped by unnoticed.

Just another violent incident, part of living in a big city.

But by Monday afternoon, while everybody's attention was elsewhere, the Plano police chief, Greg Russian,

made an announcement that was pretty shocking.

It wasn't just a homicide.

It was a lot worse than that.

We were probably all so busy that you didn't hear that press conference the next night, and you didn't really think that one through.

The story was about a 27-year-old woman named Meredith Lane, and she was hosting a cowboys game, a watch party at her house.

She had bought the house in 2015 when she was married, but her and her husband aren't together.

They had filed for a divorce.

She asked for the divorce about two months ago.

It was a normal night in Plano.

It was a beautiful night.

I mean, people were out barbecuing.

People in cowboys jerseys were around and going in and out of the house.

There was laughter.

There was the cookout.

It was typical during a cowboys game here in the Dallas area.

Then as the sun started to set,

just down the street from Lane's house, a woman named Crystal Sugg, she stepped outside of the nursing home where she works.

She needed to take a cigarette break.

She decided to go take a long, slow walk, smoking on her way.

While she was walking, she barely even noticed the man and the woman standing in front of the house up ahead.

She didn't know that it was Meredith's house.

She didn't know who those people were.

She could tell that they were arguing about something, but she was too far away to make out what the pair were saying to one another, and it got louder, and their gestures became more intense.

She was beginning to feel a little uncomfortable, kind of eavesdropping, still not knowing what they were arguing about.

But she watched them from a distance for several minutes, when the woman suddenly turned and went back into the house and the man followed directly behind her and that's when crystal saw that he had pulled out what she thought was a rifle

she said everything after that accelerated she saw the man's rifle and she started running back towards the nursing home

behind her she heard heavy gunfire she said 30 or 40 rounds She heard screaming coming from inside and out around the house.

She made it back to the nursing home, immediately grabbed the phone and dialed 911.

The other neighbors, hearing the same stuff, did exactly the same.

Now the smell of burgers and chicken on the grill was overpowered close to the house by the smell of gunpowder.

It didn't take long before the first police officer arrived at the scene.

He didn't exactly know what he was walking into.

When somebody is actively taking people's lives and we know that we have to get in there immediately as quickly as possible.

He knocked on the door, went inside, and there was more gunfire in the house.

And this officer went directly into

fire and

stopped the shooter's ability to continue to kill people.

When all of the neighbors stopped, listened,

and watched,

Eight people lay dead in the house, including the guy who had the gun.

Another person died in the hospital the next day.

One more victim still clinging to life in the hospital.

That's what really happened when we heard that report on Sunday night.

And it wasn't until the next day that we actually heard the grim details.

It's really easy for us to dismiss the stuff on the news as just news that doesn't affect us.

Ah, it's big city.

It's probably a gang.

It's harder to get your arms around something that just happened in a normal neighborhood where it was just a husband and wife, a disgruntled husband that wanted to come back and prove a point.

The reason why I wanted to bring this story to your attention

is chaos is closer than you think.

Sometimes it's just down the street or in the house next door.

Yesterday,

number 11, so I think it's number one twice.

Number 11

a podcast at iTunes.

That's exactly what that means.

Is that what it means?

It's Pat Gray, Unleashed, who does a a radio program and television program.

I'm number 11.

I'm number 11.

I'm number one twice.

I'm number one twice.

I'm number one twice.

He does a television program, follows this on the Blaze Radio and Television Network, and we invite you to see it at theblaze.com.

Perhaps people should subscribe to that podcast and iTunes.

Is that how that works?

I don't know.

I've not heard of this iTunes thing of which you speak.

But I guess a podcast there doing well is a big thing.

So, welcome, Pat.

Thank you.

You guys hear about this story, the McDonald's employee who went into the bathroom and had a baby at McDonald's.

Oh.

May I remind, all McDonald's employees should wash their hands after having a baby in the bathroom.

That's a really good safety tip.

Thank you.

All employees should just make that a.

It turned out to be a tad messy, yes, in the bathroom.

And then she tried to flush it down the table.

Oh, yeah.

You've got to be kidding me.

At McDonald's.

Oh, my gosh.

I mean, McDonald's is a happy place.

It's a slap, hap, happy place.

A slap, hap, happy place.

So she had gone, I guess, continually back and forth to the bathroom, and employees finally got suspicious of what she was doing.

So they went in there, and one of them, I mean, they saw the mess, and one of them peeked over the top.

And here she is with the baby's head

face down in the toilet bowl.

Oh, my gosh.

Trying to flush it.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my God.

Fortunately, those employees came in in time, and the paramedic.

Saved the baby.

Oh.

Yeah, saved the baby.

It's a shocking, she's in jail now on $11 million bond.

And it's a shocking, horrific story.

But when you think about how many liberals and progressives would be completely fine with attempted murder of a baby if it happened five minutes before this, right?

And it happened

with scissors, forceps, and suction tubes.

Quite honestly, Kurt Gosnell, the reason why he was not as famous as he should be as the biggest serial killer in American history is because they are fine.

They are fine.

They're fine with it.

With a baby not being forcibly flushed down the toilet in McDonald's, although I don't understand the difference.

They're fine with it just being put into a closet and left to die.

Exactly.

Yeah, and I just, I think it's time that we point this stuff out.

That, yeah, it is horrific.

You can't even, it's unfathomable that a woman would try to do that to her baby.

But if it happened at a planned parenthood place with a doctor just tearing it out of the womb, you wouldn't care.

You wouldn't care one iota.

So, how is that possible?

How do you make that distinction?

Then you go to OK Cupid, who's now allowing people this month to get together in groups celebrating abortion

this month.

They all stand with Planned Parenthood.

It's people who stand with Planned Parenthood and abortion.

Isn't OKCupid

site?

Yes.

What does that have to do with a well,

Stu, there's nothing sexier than a shared cause.

And I got to tell you, man, what's that?

That sounds like what they really said.

That is what they said.

There's nothing sexier than a shared cause.

And you can just kind of imagine sitting in the living room.

The Berry White is playing.

You got the champagne chilling.

Hey, baby.

The lights are dim.

He's a baby.

Tell me about that time you had that fetus sucked out of your womb.

You know what I like, mama.

Wait, so it's nothing sexier than a shared cause.

Isn't OKCupid the site that booted the white supremacist off?

They have a shared cause.

It's got to be the right shared cause.

Oh, exactly.

Because I know that one of the shared causes is responsible in very recent memory for multiple millions killed.

Yes.

Now, it's not.

Wait, which cause was that?

The white supremacist?

No.

The white supremacist or the planned parenthood.

I've done a lot of terrible things.

However, only one of their actions is legal.

Yeah.

Right?

I mean, like, this is a legalized activity where millions of children have died.

Yeah, it's 52 million.

You know what it is?

Planned Parenthood.

Every time you hear Planned Parenthood and somebody say, you know what, they provide all kinds of different services.

Yes.

And Hitler built the Audubon and is responsible for the Volkswagen.

Yes.

Yes.

That's right.

That's the difference.

By the way, the main thing they're remembered for is killing millions of people.

Yes.

Period.

Yes.

Did you hear?

Did you hear, Pat?

We're providing

no-cost abortions for patients affected by Hurricane Harvey for the month of September.

This is a clinic in Houston.

Oh, my God.

They are helping by providing

free abortions.

Free abortions in Houston.

It's sick and it's despicable.

Especially after what has happened.

Yeah.

I have to tell you,

I read that last night and I prayed.

Help me, help me, help me, help me, help me.

First, we need your mercy, but help me.

Help me love.

Teach me.

Show me.

How do I love the people who I truly and deeply disagree with?

Show us the path.

Yeah.

And show us how to make an impact with the other side here.

How do we do it?

How do we do it with empathy and kindness?

How do

we do it?

Because they are deceived beyond understanding.

And we are, our hearts have become hardened and angry and judgmental.

And, and, and honestly, more times than not, I want just, I want to be the one that brings justice.

That's not my place.

It's not my place.

And we have got to find ways to help these people.

This woman who was in McDonald's,

she's either reverted back to her animalistic nature and doesn't feel anything, but what got her there.

So

we help others so they don't get there.

Or she was in so deep of pain and trouble that she didn't know what else to do.

She didn't know what to do.

And, you know, we glorify abortion.

So, I mean, could you not have the mentality that if I had a partial birth abortion, this wouldn't be a problem.

Why is it now?

Seriously, what is the difference?

Why is it different?

Why is the difference?

There is no difference.

Other than, well, we want money to change hands.

Yes.

Other than that, if, you know, I want them safe.

Okay, well, she was safe.

She was safe.

Is it the best way to do it?

No, but nothing happened to her.

So what is the difference?

Yeah, I mean, Kermit Gosnell does the things that he does, and he does them slightly earlier, and he's at a country club instead of prison.

Yeah.

And he's praised.

It's not just he gets away with it and he walks free.

He's a rich doctor who has a country club membership and a Porsche.

That is how close this is and how ridiculous it is.

Just seconds away.

I mean, that makes absolutely no sense.

And by the way, the law that he broke is a law that liberals disagree with.

A 24-week window is not something they support so i mean they are he went to jail for a law that the left actually opposes

that is i mean it's it's incredible and they're and of course we will vilify appropriately this woman who tries to kill her own child but how many people make that same decision

Pat Gray unleashed coming up in just moments on the Blaze Radio and TV networks.

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You can.

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If they keep subscribing, will you be number one three times?

Like 111?

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Okay, good.

Yes.

Okay.

Make it come up to me.

No, that would be.

Oh.

Oh, no, that would be three, because I was going to say it's 30 if he was 33.

That would be, you'd be number three three times.

Number one

three times would be

111.

You're right.

You're right.

Let's just make you number one one time.

Number one one time.

I'm not being so greedy.

Stop hogging.

Okay.

I want you number one one time.

I could go along along that way.

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Number 11 yesterday on podcast day number three.

So thank you for that.

We have a very resilient country, but right now we're experiencing a lot of pressure points.

Last week, North Korea tested a hydrogen bomb.

Doesn't that seem like a million years ago?

Houston was hit by Hurricane Harvey.

That was two weeks ago.

Two weeks ago.

Now 6 million Floridians still without power.

There are a lot of pressure points.

And what is the pressure point that

breaks the camel's back?

I don't know.

We were talking about Bitcoin earlier today.

Bitcoin has fallen from 5,000 to, what is it, 3,500?

Yeah, about 3,500.

And the thing with Bitcoin is that is either all or nothing.

That's either going to be worth something or worth nothing because it doesn't have any intrinsic value.

It's not even real.

It's the same with paper money.

It's why it could go to zero.

Once people stop believing in it, it goes to zero because it's only worth the paper it's printed on.

Gold is different.

Gold is an actual commodity.

It's actually used in other things.

It will never go to zero.

And in fact, gold line is

imagine if you could invest, if I could sell you a Bitcoin or a stock, and I said, Look, you put $2,500 in.

I will make sure that I make it up with extra stock so you don't lose the $2,500 if it goes down the next three months.

Okay.

If you give me $25,000, I'm going to give you the $25,000 in stock.

And in a year from now, if it goes down, I'll make it up with more stock.

The reason why that's not that impressive is because if the company is going under and the stock is becoming more and more worthless,

you could give me a million shares of something if it's crap, if it's not worth anything.

Gold never loses its value.

This is the promise they make.

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Glenn, back.

Well, yesterday, two statues were defaced.

One was Francis Scott Key.

The other one was a Catholic saint that was beheaded.

The statue was beheaded.

And they're going to try to do the same thing to Ben Shapiro, our good friend, tonight in Berkeley.

May I humbly ask that we all pray for peace, but act with love.

I will be gone tomorrow.

I will see you back here Monday with a fantastic program.

God bless.

Glenn, back.