8/22/17 - Who do you WANT to be? (Wences Casares joins Glenn)

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Speaker 10 Well, last night, President Trump gave a primetime speech, first formal policy speech.

Speaker 15 Since the president was sworn in, pretty big deal, or so we were told.

Speaker 13 Yet, I don't know about you, I kind of feel in the end, it was more like the empty calories that all of us consumed as we went out to the parking lot watching the eclipse yesterday.

Speaker 11 Yes, I did watch the eclipse.

Speaker 24 I'm not exactly sure why, other than everyone said, oh my gosh, this is so important.

Speaker 14 You've got to go out. And I have a major fear of missing out.

Speaker 27 And so I found myself standing in the parking lot like a boob.

Speaker 30 Did anyone else feel that way yesterday during the eclipse?

Speaker 32 Because I felt it twice in one day.

Speaker 12 I felt exactly the same way with the president's speech.

Speaker 34 Trump said his, quote, original instinct was to pull out of Afghanistan.

Speaker 11 To me, this was a huge deal.

Speaker 26 I didn't expect him to actually admit this.

Speaker 37 After all, sending, you know, more troops into Afghanistan is a 180 from what he was saying during the campaign when he ran on a line that, quote, the war was an unsolvable quagmire requiring a fast U.S.

Speaker 39 withdrawal.

Speaker 20 So he admitted that he had changed his mind, which is not like Donald Trump.

Speaker 26 And he went as far as telling us why he changed his mind, another thing he really rarely does.

Speaker 24 And I appreciate it.

Speaker 17 The president said he had determined that the approach would create a vacuum that terrorists, including al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, could instantly fill if we had a quick withdrawal.

Speaker 13 Trump said, Americans are weary of war without victory.

Speaker 45 And I share American people's frustration.

Speaker 16 But in the end, we will win.

Speaker 11 Okay, several things here that we need to talk about.

Speaker 14 I don't think we're going to win.

Speaker 30 Does anybody really believe we're going to win?

Speaker 20 I don't, because I don't even think we're fighting to win.

Speaker 12 I needed the president to say one more thing, and he would have satisfied at least my

Speaker 50 need

Speaker 4 for hearing it from the president, even though I don't agree with the policy.

Speaker 11 I need somebody, anybody, to describe what winning actually looks like.

Speaker 55 Because this is now America's longest conflict, 16

Speaker 41 years.

Speaker 29 And we were told the win was to kill Osama bin Laden.

Speaker 46 But that was done in 2012.

Speaker 24 So what are we fighting for or against?

Speaker 45 What are we doing there?

Speaker 43 Americans are frustrated because no one on either side has a clue on why we're even there, what we're doing.

Speaker 17 Nor do we even know what has to happen before we can come home.

Speaker 22 Why is it?

Speaker 17 This is now the third president.

Speaker 10 The first one was a hawk, George Bush.

Speaker 61 Okay?

Speaker 25 The second one wanted all wars to end.

Speaker 37 He did the same thing that the first president did.

Speaker 29 And this one, in a third point of view, said, you know what, we need to bring him home.

Speaker 24 We need to bring him home quickly.

Speaker 19 And yet he's doing the same thing that the first president did.

Speaker 26 I'd like to know why.

Speaker 24 And if your media source isn't helping you figure out why and what a win looks like, so we can stop losing Americans and their limbs on the battlefield for a war we can't even define, and most of us can't even tell you if it's going on or not.

Speaker 29 If they're not telling you that, but instead they're just making this all about Trump, Trump, Trump, either good or bad, maybe, just maybe it's time for a new media source.

Speaker 40 We begin right now.

Speaker 40 I will make a stand.

Speaker 40 I will raise my voice. I will hold your hand.

Speaker 40 Cause we have won. I will be my drum.

Speaker 40 I have made my choice. We will overcome.

Speaker 40 Cause we are one.

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Speaker 26 America's longest running conflict.

Speaker 71 Honestly, I want to know what.

Speaker 57 I want to know why.

Speaker 72 I want to know what we're doing.

Speaker 20 Last night when I watched this,

Speaker 20 A, I wasn't filled with confidence that we're going to win, but nobody could have filled me.

Speaker 45 Ronald Reagan could come back from the dead, and I wouldn't feel like we were going to win.

Speaker 76 I don't believe that anybody in Washington even knows what a win looks like anymore. I don't know what we're doing over there.
The president says we're not going to nation build.

Speaker 64 Well,

Speaker 46 yeah, we are, because that's all we're really doing. We are the police force in the middle of a drug war.

Speaker 79 That's really what's happening.

Speaker 79 And why?

Speaker 6 Why? For what?

Speaker 55 So ISIS doesn't come in?

Speaker 33 So al-Qaeda doesn't come in?

Speaker 65 We can't continue to spend our lives.

Speaker 33 Do you know that most people,

Speaker 33 you know, only 1%

Speaker 80 of the U.S.

Speaker 81 population is engaged in this war.

Speaker 54 1%

Speaker 28 of this population has somebody that they know or involved with that are fighting in Afghanistan.

Speaker 4 This war could go on forever.

Speaker 33 Most Americans don't even know why we're in South Korea. They don't even know we are in South Korea.

Speaker 85 How long has that gone on?

Speaker 45 I thought we were against being America's,

Speaker 28 you know, the world's army, the world's policemen.

Speaker 79 That's not what we are for. That's not what we do.

Speaker 12 Did anybody else think about what George Bush said to me in the Oval Office just before he left?

Speaker 13 When he said, I did,

Speaker 88 the, don't worry, Glenn, the next president.

Speaker 81 He was talking about Barack Obama, when he said, I'll just fly planes over the Pakistani border and I'll just bomb Pakistan.

Speaker 91 And I said, that's a suicide.

Speaker 29 That's our country committing suicide.

Speaker 92 You can't do that to an ally.

Speaker 74 He said, don't worry.

Speaker 83 The next president, whoever it is, male or female, Republican or Democrat, they're going to sit behind this desk in this chair, and they're going to make pretty much the same decision because they will realize the president's hands are tied

Speaker 96 and they'll have to continue on this policy.

Speaker 5 Can you play the president from last night?

Speaker 97 Listen to this.

Speaker 98 The consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable. My original instinct was to pull out

Speaker 98 and historically I like following my instincts. But all my life, I've heard that decisions are much different when you sit in the Oval Office.

Speaker 98 And yes, we will defeat them, and we will defeat them handily.

Speaker 74 Isn't that pretty much what George Bush said?

Speaker 66 It's the same thing.

Speaker 59 Yeah. Same thing.

Speaker 20 When you sit in the Oval Office, you'll realize your hands are tied.

Speaker 102 Well, then why do we need a president?

Speaker 85 Why are we fighting over who is president?

Speaker 105 If the guy who gets in is going to make the same decision, I mean, think you could not have three presidents that were more different.

Speaker 97 The last three presidents have torn us apart.

Speaker 49 George W.

Speaker 108 Bush, wildly unpopular with half the country, and they said horrible things about him.

Speaker 40 Barack Obama comes in unpopular with

Speaker 65 half the country hating his guts.

Speaker 55 This guy coming in, half the country hating his guts, all for different reasons.

Speaker 35 All for different reasons.

Speaker 43 One, he was too

Speaker 39 Republican.

Speaker 17 Second, he was too Democrat.

Speaker 29 And third, he's going to drain the swamp and he's against all of them.

Speaker 105 And yet they're doing exactly the same thing.

Speaker 42 Can somebody tell me why?

Speaker 97 Because I really want to know.

Speaker 111 Is there anybody in the media that's asking this question?

Speaker 105 I would also like to know one other thing.

Speaker 76 We have the most sophisticated fighting machinery the world has ever seen.

Speaker 54 You can't get in

Speaker 76 probably within a thousand, maybe 5,000 yards of one of our Navy ships without the Aegis system going off automatically,

Speaker 86 automatically will

Speaker 34 take a plane and rip it to shreds.

Speaker 76 No man needs to be involved.

Speaker 33 The Aegis system is there to find out what is in its sphere, what is within attack range, and it automatically turns on and destroys it.

Speaker 17 Why is it our most sophisticated ships with the most sophisticated navigation and equipment are ramming into things?

Speaker 105 It doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Speaker 76 You're not missing the cargo ship.

Speaker 114 It's happened twice. Twice.
Three months.

Speaker 61 Twice.

Speaker 79 And to me, there are only a couple of reasons.

Speaker 28 One,

Speaker 28 we are incompetent.

Speaker 40 Absolutely and totally incompetent.

Speaker 40 I don't believe that.

Speaker 54 I know the people who are in the military.

Speaker 76 You know many of the people who are in the military.

Speaker 116 You cannot tell me we're that incompetent.

Speaker 30 We lost 10 sailors over the weekend?

Speaker 117 10?

Speaker 109 How?

Speaker 109 How?

Speaker 29 How is that possible?

Speaker 17 How did another ship

Speaker 103 ram

Speaker 33 our Navy vessel?

Speaker 91 And we lose 10 sailors. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Speaker 50 None.

Speaker 38 Zero.

Speaker 28 So we're either incompetent or there's something else going on.

Speaker 92 And I don't know what it is.

Speaker 34 I don't want to be involved in conspiracy theories, but help me out.

Speaker 34 I'm just not going to sit here and wait for a third Navy ship to be rammed

Speaker 25 or get lost without asking questions.

Speaker 91 You know how much those ships cost us?

Speaker 11 Is anybody,

Speaker 29 has anybody been fired for that?

Speaker 85 Has the captain gotten in trouble?

Speaker 33 When the Exxon Valdees, remember that?

Speaker 76 When the Exen Valdees went and spilled oil,

Speaker 74 it was a massive, massive ordeal.

Speaker 46 Here's our ships.

Speaker 33 Our ships brand new.

Speaker 97 That's the USS John McCain.

Speaker 6 Latest technology.

Speaker 42 Why don't we know everything about that?

Speaker 120 Why aren't those guys almost drawn and quartered for incompetent were they drunk

Speaker 30 Was the warning system that hey big ship big ship

Speaker 4 I Know my car says my car talks to me when I start to go out of a lane.

Speaker 35 We don't have any kind of warning giant ship Turn around.

Speaker 123 Almost every car released now has a proximity alarm.

Speaker 87 But our ship doesn't?

Speaker 88 It does.

Speaker 109 It does.

Speaker 79 It's called the Aegis system.

Speaker 50 It does.

Speaker 114 I know. So have they disabled them?

Speaker 123 Are they not working?

Speaker 109 What is happening?

Speaker 20 I mean,

Speaker 1 so the one, obviously the McCain one just happened.

Speaker 59 So we don't, they haven't done the investigation yet.

Speaker 1 But the one from two months ago, they did relieve the captain from duty and such.

Speaker 20 And was he drunk?

Speaker 30 Don't think he was drunk. Okay.

Speaker 88 I did not read the entire report, but they.

Speaker 39 How did the captain...

Speaker 39 How did, I mean,

Speaker 106 that's beyond incompetence. It's beyond incompetence, only because it's not,

Speaker 94 think of the most sophisticated car with the proximity alarms.

Speaker 126 Right.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not, you know, we don't know.

Speaker 1 You know, this McCain thing, obviously, again, just happened, but we don't know that they didn't know it was going to occur.

Speaker 70 I mean, you know, we don't know what the, what the, you know, we don't know the reasoning.

Speaker 1 We don't know how it happened. I mean, just because an alarm goes off doesn't mean you have, like, if your car alarm goes off and the guy next to you crashes into you anyway,

Speaker 89 it doesn't mean that you didn't know the proximity alarm was going on.

Speaker 94 But the proximity alarm,

Speaker 82 it's different from a car to a ship.

Speaker 13 Of course, you ever heard, you know, this thing turning this thing is like turning an aircraft carrier.

Speaker 10 You don't turn those on a dime.

Speaker 100 It's not a speedboat.

Speaker 95 So you don't turn them on a dime.

Speaker 64 So the proximity goes up, those alarms go off way out to give you enough advance notice to have you stop, reverse, turn, do whatever you need to do to avoid that.

Speaker 22 How does it get that close that it's even a close, a narrow miss?

Speaker 20 Imagine we have all kinds of alarms to go off

Speaker 10 and if you've seen how busy our airports are, when's the last time two planes collided at an airport?

Speaker 109 Has it ever happened?

Speaker 85 Maybe? Once?

Speaker 34 I don't recall recall it.

Speaker 40 It could have happened, but I don't recall them.

Speaker 7 It's not frequent.

Speaker 54 Those planes are landing every 90 seconds.

Speaker 28 We've had near misses

Speaker 17 where planes are within, what, 1,000 feet of each other.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think they're, you know, again, they're different things, right? And we need to know what is going on before

Speaker 1 we can judge it. I don't think you can make comparisons to cars or planes at all.

Speaker 130 I know, because boats are bigger and slower.

Speaker 88 Right. It's harder.

Speaker 87 I mean, if you have proximity is

Speaker 131 further out,

Speaker 126 it takes longer to airport.

Speaker 88 It's

Speaker 15 a slow, it's a slow wreck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. I mean, but we don't, this can be completely the fault of the other vessel, right? I mean, and then you're at that point of whether you decide to fire at a merchant vessel.

Speaker 50 Or turn.

Speaker 117 Yeah, but if a smaller boat is coming at a larger boat, you can't just like move out of the way. It's not like you just lift up on stilts and the thing goes under you.

Speaker 123 Whatever hit that thing was big, yeah, massive.

Speaker 114 Did you see the damage? Yeah, it was huge.

Speaker 87 I mean, yes, it was big.

Speaker 72 So, the one before the Fitzgerald, they have let, you know, you said they let the captain go, and the fishermen said that they didn't have a radio, so they weren't listening anyway.

Speaker 72 So, that small boat, you're right, they were just coming on the boat. There was no turning, there was no getting out of the way.
That's why they got rid of the captain, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that one they seem to blame on operator error, kind of.

Speaker 129 But, I mean,

Speaker 135 well, all

Speaker 136 here's what I am tired of.

Speaker 28 Yesterday, we made a big deal. And I guess people, you know, if you went with your kids, that's one thing.

Speaker 136 I get it.

Speaker 13 You went with your kids.

Speaker 44 It was a great memory to watch the, but did you see TV news yesterday?

Speaker 17 It was non-stop wall-to-wall coverage.

Speaker 37 I walk in this morning and they're still talking about the damn eclipse

Speaker 134 with all of the things that are going on.

Speaker 117 I was going to say, I had this thought yesterday of that, like, this has taken 99 years.

Speaker 126 I got sick of it in five seconds.

Speaker 137 It took 99. We waited for 99 years.

Speaker 97 I went, I looked at it for five seconds, got sick of it, and immediately turned into, I can't believe this news coverage.

Speaker 137 It took 99 years to get here.

Speaker 126 And I still was frustrated in seconds.

Speaker 126 Our attention span is intriguing.

Speaker 72 I saw they've got National Guard directing traffic out of Oregon, right?

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 50 Big fish to fry, guys.

Speaker 79 We have bigger questions like, why,

Speaker 79 Why?

Speaker 36 What are these troops going to do in Afghanistan that will bring our boys home?

Speaker 39 Why did the, what, what new information did the president have?

Speaker 113 Or did he just dismiss

Speaker 19 everything that had been said?

Speaker 10 Is this truly the best course of action?

Speaker 65 16

Speaker 6 years.

Speaker 7 How much longer?

Speaker 40 I just want to know what does a win look like?

Speaker 20 So I know we've hit it.

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Speaker 154 This is not going well for the president, at least with many of his anti-war supporters.

Speaker 79 Whereas I see Trump as a threat to his re-election, more troops to useless human grinder in Afghanistan, says Ann Coulter.

Speaker 23 Laura Ingram, who's going to pay for it?

Speaker 19 What's our measure of success?

Speaker 47 We didn't win with 100,000 troops. How are we going to win with 4,000 more?

Speaker 23 I thought we were going to drain the swamp in Washington, not clear the desert in Afghanistan. Joe Walsh: 17 days, 17 weeks, 17 months, 17 years.

Speaker 71 Doesn't matter how long we're in Afghanistan.

Speaker 23 It's not going to change a damn thing.

Speaker 157 More in a minute.

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Speaker 13 Last night, the president said that he wants to send another 4,000 troops into Afghanistan.

Speaker 126 Did he say that? I don't think he did.

Speaker 158 No, he didn't actually give the number.

Speaker 136 You're right. They're speculating that it'll be another 4,000 troops that they're going to send into Afghanistan.

Speaker 141 Could be more.

Speaker 136 I mean, we had 100,000 troops in there.

Speaker 131 But

Speaker 87 we didn't win.

Speaker 13 I don't know what winning even looks like.

Speaker 123 How many did the Soviets have in there all through the 80s?

Speaker 37 It's the place where empires die.

Speaker 18 And,

Speaker 13 you know, the idea was: let's go in and get Osama bin Laden.

Speaker 79 We did.

Speaker 62 And now we're still there.

Speaker 79 Children,

Speaker 122 children that were born during this war

Speaker 130 in 20, what, 19 will be eligible to go fight in the same war.

Speaker 116 We are entering a time

Speaker 120 to where war is becoming meaningless.

Speaker 64 for

Speaker 142 those in wealthy countries

Speaker 109 because we're not fighting them ourselves and they're becoming more and more robotic

Speaker 59 and our our drones are fighting which are being flown here in the United States

Speaker 111 it's it's a video game

Speaker 113 is there some responsibility

Speaker 52 That we have as people to actually feel the pain of war.

Speaker 105 Is there some responsibility that we actually

Speaker 138 know that human lives

Speaker 130 are being taken in our name?

Speaker 95 I'm a huge fan of Muse.

Speaker 136 They're not a fan of mine.

Speaker 92 But I'm a huge fan of Muse

Speaker 40 and Met

Speaker 79 Bellamy, who is just a brilliant... brilliant writer

Speaker 47 there was a

Speaker 37 a CD that came out called The Resistance back in 2009, and I think it's my favorite

Speaker 13 muse collection.

Speaker 124 And it is

Speaker 13 the lyrics in 2009 I thought were spot on.

Speaker 28 But if you want to know why Brexit happened,

Speaker 28 this is a band that really is huge over in Europe.

Speaker 37 And you want to know what people are feeling, why Brexit is happening.

Speaker 58 All you have to do is read the lyrics of Muse.

Speaker 61 You see it.

Speaker 28 If you want to know what

Speaker 101 people are feeling and why

Speaker 111 if Donald Trump begins to fall into line

Speaker 102 with all of the other presidents, that will make two presidents in a row.

Speaker 100 that promised massive change.

Speaker 62 Barack Obama delivered his massive change.

Speaker 86 He went with health care.

Speaker 119 He got that done.

Speaker 40 He got a lot done.

Speaker 118 This president does not have the support of the GOP.

Speaker 142 He's fighting the GOP.

Speaker 155 What a surprise.

Speaker 37 So he's not going to be able to deliver on anything big.

Speaker 89 And when that happens, there's only two consequences they turn on him

Speaker 160 or he turns

Speaker 109 along with the people

Speaker 86 on congress both the gop and the democrats and a lot of people think that's good it's not

Speaker 28 we're not a country of revolution

Speaker 116 we're not a country of civil war

Speaker 130 The last time that happened, it almost killed us.

Speaker 92 We escaped by the skin of our teeth.

Speaker 109 And it was horrible.

Speaker 138 Scenes of death everywhere.

Speaker 58 I want you to listen to the lyrics of

Speaker 134 a song

Speaker 87 from Muse.

Speaker 92 It came out of 2009.

Speaker 96 And ever since I saw the president speak last night,

Speaker 20 I kept hearing these lyrics over and over in my head.

Speaker 147 You and me,

Speaker 13 we are the same.

Speaker 109 We don't know or care who's to blame.

Speaker 163 But we know that whoever holds the reins, nothing will change.

Speaker 164 Our cause has gone insane.

Speaker 28 And these wars, they can't be won.

Speaker 134 And do you want them to go on and on and on?

Speaker 83 Why split these states when there can be only one?

Speaker 34 And must we do as we're told?

Speaker 50 You and me fall in line

Speaker 28 to be punished for unproven crimes.

Speaker 32 And we know that there's no one we can trust.

Speaker 37 Our ancient heroes, they're turning into dust.

Speaker 13 And these wars, they can't be won.

Speaker 111 Does anyone even know

Speaker 136 how they begun?

Speaker 81 They just promise to go on and on and on.

Speaker 58 I believe

Speaker 160 if the media

Speaker 88 and the politicians all across the world

Speaker 166 listened to the lyrics of Muse,

Speaker 11 they would see their future.

Speaker 140 People feel as though they're not being listened to.

Speaker 93 People feel as though they're being lied to.

Speaker 100 People feel like everybody's in on it except them.

Speaker 112 It doesn't make sense to us.

Speaker 113 So what is it that they know that they're not telling us?

Speaker 105 Because there's no way they win these wars.

Speaker 42 Who's profiting on these?

Speaker 46 Because it's our kids that we're sending off.

Speaker 28 It's our kids that are paying the price.

Speaker 55 And we don't even know why they're being fought,

Speaker 138 and we are entering a place to where

Speaker 160 Muse goes,

Speaker 162 and that is

Speaker 140 an uprising.

Speaker 20 And you don't want an uprising.

Speaker 115 I don't think the average person wants an uprising.

Speaker 92 I don't think the average person

Speaker 167 has really thought it through when they say, destroy the whole system.

Speaker 104 This system

Speaker 88 is

Speaker 160 divine.

Speaker 58 It's just been so badly abused.

Speaker 160 This system was designed to put you in power for the first time in human history, to put you in power.

Speaker 109 And what happened?

Speaker 138 It gave us so many riches.

Speaker 61 It gave us so many diversions.

Speaker 138 It gave us so many things that made us fat and happy and honestly blind and lazy

Speaker 79 that that we didn't keep our eye on the ball.

Speaker 79 Go back today and listen

Speaker 138 to Eisenhower.

Speaker 58 I truly believe

Speaker 92 it's the last time a president gave a really

Speaker 142 self-sacrificing speech.

Speaker 78 Dwight Eisenhower was the allied commander of all of the forces.

Speaker 166 He was a general.

Speaker 116 If there's anybody that knew what the military could do, it was him.

Speaker 82 If there's anybody who had respect, the respect of the armed forces and the respect of all those who fought with him, it was Dwight Eisenhower.

Speaker 52 He becomes president and he talks about the military-industrial complex.

Speaker 92 Now, this is something that has become a conspiracy theorist dream.

Speaker 37 It's a utopia for conspiracy theorists.

Speaker 20 Oh, the military-industrial complex.

Speaker 155 But he warned us.

Speaker 115 If you don't, he said, for the very first time,

Speaker 92 We're going to have to have a standing army.

Speaker 20 We're going to have to have new technology.

Speaker 80 We're going to have to do things that we never thought possible because we can all be dead in 18 minutes.

Speaker 91 But that's going to require you to stay vigilant

Speaker 92 or the military-industrial complex.

Speaker 86 The people who are just making money

Speaker 142 on the growth of machines of death

Speaker 78 are going to control things

Speaker 54 and i don't want to say that the people that are making war machines are evil it's just this is just the system we're living in and they're making money and nobody wants to see their money cut off and so they just keep going

Speaker 85 And I honestly don't think it's because of money or anything else, but I don't know what the reason is we're still fighting these wars.

Speaker 102 Because if you wanted to fight to win, the United States has that capacity.

Speaker 34 It can fight to win.

Speaker 160 It can change the world just with its military might

Speaker 109 and then come home.

Speaker 20 I want to talk to you next hour about

Speaker 59 an answer to all of this.

Speaker 142 Something I started talking about yesterday that

Speaker 79 we all kind of have to do.

Speaker 92 It's time to take an inventory.

Speaker 58 It's time to find out what we really believe,

Speaker 58 who we really are,

Speaker 58 and begin again with a blank sheet of paper.

Speaker 41 What is the story we're going to write for our country? What is the story we're going to write for ourselves?

Speaker 109 We'll do that next hour.

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Speaker 143 Maybe.

Speaker 135 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 158 Stu is on a different page than I am on this Afghanistan thing.

Speaker 169 I think it should have been over 15 years ago.

Speaker 115 Me too.

Speaker 114 Fight it to win. Fight it all out.

Speaker 123 Do the shock and awe that you promised.

Speaker 87 Only really do it and then get out.

Speaker 123 I hate what they're doing now.

Speaker 123 And that's the problem is they're not going to fight this the right way.

Speaker 114 We don't fight wars to win this.

Speaker 86 This doesn't teach anybody anything, except they can bleed us to death.

Speaker 42 It doesn't teach anybody anything.

Speaker 22 You go in, the point of war is to win and then to stop future wars.

Speaker 44 So you go in and you fight it with everything you have and you take the breath away from the enemy until they say, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I stop, stop, stop, stop.

Speaker 49 And then you stop and say to the whole world, don't do that to us.

Speaker 44 Don't try to bring down our buildings with our people in them because we will do this again.

Speaker 50 Now,

Speaker 42 you've paid the price.

Speaker 89 I think you've learned your lesson.

Speaker 103 We're moving on.

Speaker 89 Good luck to you.

Speaker 42 Leave us alone and we will leave you alone.

Speaker 113 That's the way you fight and win the war and the peace.

Speaker 25 How is this, how is this going to

Speaker 44 show me, what does a win look like, Stu?

Speaker 1 I'm coming to a point where I think that's the wrong question.

Speaker 1 And I know this is, you know, I'm totally out of the mainstream of this this room and of the audience. So I go enter this completely knowing that.

Speaker 129 It's fine. But it's, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't know what a win looks like. I know what a win looked like in World War II, right?

Speaker 117 World War II. We won.

Speaker 1 We knocked the Nazis are gone.

Speaker 89 We knocked them out.

Speaker 110 We won.

Speaker 5 80 million people died for that.

Speaker 33 And while

Speaker 50 I'm really glad we won, which war would you rather have?

Speaker 89 A win in World War II or this, where we have lost 2,400 of our best people.

Speaker 126 And

Speaker 117 you can't not overstate how important that is.

Speaker 117 But it is different than 80 million.

Speaker 123 If you're going to compare the civilian casualties and all an enemy as well as ours, then you've got to make the death toll higher than that in Afghanistan.

Speaker 89 Yeah, I mean, it's a lot higher.

Speaker 1 Activist groups say about a million and a half.

Speaker 123 Which, in a country like Afghanistan,

Speaker 50 a lot of freaking people.

Speaker 1 I will say that's an activist estimate that I don't believe, but still, it's still hundreds of thousands, likely.

Speaker 65 But again, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 31 I mean, so why are we killing them again?

Speaker 109 Help me out.

Speaker 1 Well, look, if you, I mean, this is, we have 12 seconds here before we have to go to break.

Speaker 135 So I don't think that's. That's why I asked you.

Speaker 154 Oh, okay. So that way there's no way you can win.

Speaker 135 See, that's what a win.

Speaker 50 I got that.

Speaker 2 This is what a win looks like.

Speaker 135 This is it.

Speaker 50 Yeah, I got it. You give, you give.

Speaker 135 Say I'm

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Speaker 83 Here's what you need to know today.

Speaker 46 In Houston yesterday, 25-year-old man tried to blow up a statue of Major Richard Dowling.

Speaker 44 I'd never heard of the guy before.

Speaker 38 Apparently he was a Civil War hero.

Speaker 19 It stands in Houston's Herman Park.

Speaker 29 The man was caught kneeling in the bushes near the statue by a park ranger.

Speaker 19 Park Ranger said,

Speaker 79 hey, hey, hey, dude,

Speaker 70 what are you doing?

Speaker 85 Nothing.

Speaker 91 You gonna do something against the statue?

Speaker 55 Guy actually was honest and said, yeah, I hate that guy. He says, that's weird because Glenn Beck hates Woodrow Wilson and yet he's not blowing up his statues, but that's another point.

Speaker 29 The park ranger said, come along with me.

Speaker 22 They found nitroglycerin and other powerful explosives on him, which he started to

Speaker 165 drink the nitroglycerin when he got caught, but then was like, oh man, this tastes horrible.

Speaker 109 Yeah.

Speaker 26 America, it is time to get a grip.

Speaker 38 We cannot blow up statues and monuments because we don't like that guy, like that event, or we feel oppressed.

Speaker 24 We have to be a nation of laws, a people in control, or we're going to lapse into chaos.

Speaker 29 And if your media source isn't telling you that, then you might as well go find a media source that will tell you the truth.

Speaker 29 I will make a stand. I will raise my voice.
I will hold your hand.

Speaker 29 Cause we have won.

Speaker 29 I will beat my drum.

Speaker 29 I have made my choice. We will overcome.

Speaker 29 Cause we are one.

Speaker 29 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

Speaker 69 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 23 Last night,

Speaker 26 I was not in a good mood yesterday at all, all day.

Speaker 159 And

Speaker 29 it was from dawn till dusk.

Speaker 164 And part of it was because I had just come back from Mexico and I was disgusted by

Speaker 41 what we were all doing with our time,

Speaker 20 including me. Would I waste my time? I almost called my wife yesterday and just said, I'm coming home.

Speaker 91 Because

Speaker 92 it just seems like a waste of time with all of the things that are going on.

Speaker 95 And then,

Speaker 167 woo, yesterday the eclipse happened.

Speaker 141 My gosh.

Speaker 121 Probably as impressive as the Y2K panic.

Speaker 164 You know, and the CNN coverage of that missing plane that went on for about two months.

Speaker 37 Oh,

Speaker 28 do you remember where you were when you first heard about that missing plane?

Speaker 155 I found myself last night actually walking outside, or yesterday afternoon, walking outside to see the eclipse and I spent all of about 20 seconds.

Speaker 20 I put on the glasses, I looked up and I thought, huh, looks exactly like it does in the pictures, on television, and a thousand other things I have seen a million times.

Speaker 120 And

Speaker 28 I don't think I can stand out here and go, wow, look how dark it's getting.

Speaker 34 Of course it's getting dark.

Speaker 22 It's a solar eclipse.

Speaker 79 Let's move on with our lives.

Speaker 46 That was just me.

Speaker 14 That was just me.

Speaker 39 That coupled with the statue talk, that we're oppressed.

Speaker 103 And

Speaker 85 I should have more empathy because

Speaker 141 I've been there.

Speaker 15 I've been there.

Speaker 86 And

Speaker 79 my dad is the one who first got me to open my eyes, stop complaining.

Speaker 79 And he did it in an unusual way.

Speaker 155 He didn't tell me, like I think I said yesterday, I told Tanya last night, so laying in bed, I think I said, shut up, more times on the air than I ever have in my entire career, perhaps combined, just yesterday.

Speaker 86 And I felt bad about it.

Speaker 161 And

Speaker 20 I realized what my dad did in the same situation.

Speaker 83 Instead of telling me, shut up,

Speaker 37 stop your whining,

Speaker 34 he asked me to do something that I asked you to do yesterday: make a list of all of the things that have happened in your life that are really, really bad.

Speaker 78 The worst things that have happened.

Speaker 83 I made my list

Speaker 37 this morning.

Speaker 51 I'll just give you the top four.

Speaker 20 Number one,

Speaker 20 my mom committed suicide.

Speaker 70 Number two,

Speaker 47 my daughter has cerebral palsy, had strokes at birth.

Speaker 28 Number three,

Speaker 40 I came from a broken family and then broke up my own family.

Speaker 20 My divorce.

Speaker 109 Number four,

Speaker 20 My father, quite honestly, was a mixed bag.

Speaker 20 There was abuse in my family, and I was never close to my father, and then he became my best friend, and then

Speaker 173 some things happened, and I realized

Speaker 127 what a horrible fraud he was,

Speaker 161 and

Speaker 13 we didn't speak to each other again.

Speaker 20 Those are my four.

Speaker 20 I could go on

Speaker 20 because I have a long list.

Speaker 92 But in the time period that my dad and I were talking to each other,

Speaker 161 and

Speaker 92 we'd have conversations every day,

Speaker 92 I called him up one day and I said, you know, Dad,

Speaker 81 basically, let me translate into today's speak.

Speaker 86 I'm so oppressed.

Speaker 167 Everything's against me.

Speaker 28 My people at work are against me.

Speaker 161 And

Speaker 116 just, you know, I can't catch a break and i've done everything i can

Speaker 150 and you know now i just don't know what to do i just you know i've had a really tough life

Speaker 167 and my dad said you know what you're right

Speaker 81 um write a list down he said i've got some bread in the oven he was a baker i have some bread in the oven uh Write it down.

Speaker 20 Spend the afternoon, write it down, and then call me tonight.

Speaker 173 We'll talk.

Speaker 20 Didn't take me long because I think I got to about number four and I figured it out.

Speaker 80 And I called him back and I said, You don't have any bread in the oven at all, do you?

Speaker 81 And he laughed and he said, Good for you.

Speaker 40 You're smarter than I thought.

Speaker 10 So, what did I learn?

Speaker 116 And you need to learn this for yourself.

Speaker 58 America needs to learn this

Speaker 59 coast to coast.

Speaker 88 Here's what I learned.

Speaker 41 out of the list I gave you.

Speaker 140 This obviously was not number four when my father was

Speaker 136 when I thought I had my father figured out. And what I hesitate to say any of this because I think now I have my father figured out, and I don't think I will in my life.
But

Speaker 62 the way I currently view my father is

Speaker 136 he was a pretty bad man.

Speaker 161 And

Speaker 136 man, I will leave it at that. But

Speaker 80 if my father wasn't the man that he was,

Speaker 20 I wouldn't be the man who I am.

Speaker 162 I wouldn't stand

Speaker 81 for the weak, I believe, as much as I do.

Speaker 82 It's very personal.

Speaker 81 to me to stand when everyone else is sitting down or refusing to say anything

Speaker 169 because I saw that happen in my family.

Speaker 9 No one stood for the week.

Speaker 107 And one of the last things I said to my father

Speaker 108 was,

Speaker 130 this ends now.

Speaker 136 And someone in this family has got to change the direction of the family. And I think you tried, Dad, for a while, but you put down the football.

Speaker 20 And so now it's my turn.

Speaker 140 And I'm going to stand for the members of this family.

Speaker 20 That bad experience with my father, which was horrendous and I would never

Speaker 7 want to happen,

Speaker 42 What I did with it was not what I would have done in the first half of my life.

Speaker 80 In the first half of my life, I would have looked at it as something that just was in the column of everything is bad in my life, and woe is me, and look how troubled I am.

Speaker 78 My divorce, anybody who's been divorced, that's horrible, absolutely horrible.

Speaker 116 And the anger, and the

Speaker 84 rage,

Speaker 164 and quite honestly, at times the hatred

Speaker 34 is really hard to overcome.

Speaker 118 And then the broken family

Speaker 37 and

Speaker 15 the

Speaker 79 trouble with the children.

Speaker 91 The damage just goes on and on and on.

Speaker 102 But if it wasn't for that low point,

Speaker 88 I wouldn't have picked myself up if it wasn't for me being alone

Speaker 113 on Christmas Eve,

Speaker 136 and I don't even know what year, 96, 97,

Speaker 92 alone, just wanting, just feeling sorry for myself, quite honestly.

Speaker 87 And being

Speaker 13 faced with a choice, you either go on or you kill yourself.

Speaker 42 You either do what your mom did or you find a way to go on.

Speaker 40 And I didn't know how to go on,

Speaker 101 but I knew I didn't want to do what my mom did.

Speaker 85 And mainly, honestly, I was born a coward.

Speaker 155 If I was some sort of hero, I guess, if I had courage, I wouldn't have killed myself.

Speaker 118 I thank God I'm a coward.

Speaker 102 I was afraid.

Speaker 116 But it was that low point that turned me into the man I am today in many ways.

Speaker 76 and allowed me to find my true soulmate and love for all eternity, my wife, Tanya, who saved my life.

Speaker 20 I wouldn't have been there to meet her had I made a different choice earlier.

Speaker 168 My daughter,

Speaker 41 number two, had strokes at birth.

Speaker 111 It is because of those strokes

Speaker 101 that a 19 or 20-year-old kid

Speaker 87 bargained with the Lord.

Speaker 90 First,

Speaker 15 take me, give it to me, not her.

Speaker 47 He wouldn't.

Speaker 42 I knew he wouldn't.

Speaker 28 Then I promise I will help

Speaker 32 children.

Speaker 63 I will serve you.

Speaker 15 I will do whatever I can

Speaker 88 to serve you.

Speaker 113 That promise lives with me today.

Speaker 61 That promise is what, when I left Connecticut, is why we were the biggest single food fundraiser in the state's history every single year.

Speaker 79 Probably still is.

Speaker 101 Probably nobody's ever broken that record.

Speaker 80 My mom committed suicide.

Speaker 80 Well, if my mom hadn't committed suicide, I wouldn't have moved in with my father.

Speaker 18 And my father

Speaker 41 drove me every weekend

Speaker 136 60 miles back and forth, and then later 90 miles back and forth on the weekend, so I could do my part-time job in radio when I couldn't drive.

Speaker 107 There is no bad.

Speaker 119 Everything in my life.

Speaker 91 I can either choose to have it oppress me, or I can choose to say,

Speaker 62 while I don't,

Speaker 102 well, I wouldn't wish or pray for that,

Speaker 28 I'm grateful for that experience, and I'm grateful for the miracle of the change of perspective,

Speaker 64 because that's all that happened.

Speaker 90 These are the things that weighed me down the first half of my life.

Speaker 97 All of the mistakes that I made, all of the bad things, they weighed me down.

Speaker 105 A miracle is a change of perspective.

Speaker 79 I don't look at it that way anymore.

Speaker 46 Those are the things that drive me to be a better man.

Speaker 84 Our life

Speaker 106 is not set in stone.

Speaker 76 You could be in prison today.

Speaker 109 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 141 Choose to be someone that you were meant to be, not the person you allowed yourself to become.

Speaker 109 Everything you have in your life was built by you or others telling you who you are yesterday.

Speaker 160 Change the story.

Speaker 54 Find out who you really are.

Speaker 106 There's no statue that can oppress you.

Speaker 113 It's a dumb, stupid, dead,

Speaker 109 inanimate statue.

Speaker 97 How is that oppressing you?

Speaker 97 How is my mother or my father and what happened with me and my dad? How is that oppressing me?

Speaker 74 Only by choice.

Speaker 28 I want you to take out a blank sheet of paper

Speaker 138 and I want you to start writing a new story.

Speaker 34 First, the story of who you want to be.

Speaker 79 I want you to look at who you were and what shaped that story, all of the bad things.

Speaker 33 And then look at those things and say, wow, I...

Speaker 33 If those wouldn't have happened, I wouldn't be where I am right now.

Speaker 42 And trust me, it's a good thing that you are right where you are.

Speaker 34 Even in your lowest place, you're right exactly where you need to be to pull out a sheet of paper and begin a new life and a new story.

Speaker 62 Everything changes.

Speaker 54 There is nothing that we can't handle

Speaker 160 if we pray for that miracle of a change of perspective,

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Speaker 95 This, by the way, is this monologue is not coming out of no place.

Speaker 107 It has been something that I've been thinking about for the the last six months as I've been taking inventory of my life and

Speaker 136 where I'm headed and what I'm doing and why am I doing everything.

Speaker 136 And then also seeing this weekend, being down in Mexico and seeing people who have far

Speaker 54 many more reasons to complain than me.

Speaker 28 I mean, being an actual slave

Speaker 94 and then being named one of the country's most powerful women by Forbes magazine in two years.

Speaker 85 In two years.

Speaker 104 That's a choice.

Speaker 123 It's strange to hear you talk about your dad this way, though, because

Speaker 123 30 years ago, that's not how it was.

Speaker 100 I mean, 10 years ago.

Speaker 50 Yeah, 15 years.

Speaker 123 10 years ago, it's not.

Speaker 123 I know

Speaker 123 things changed at the end, but

Speaker 123 your dad was like an oracle when we first met in Baltimore.

Speaker 123 You used to impart the wisdom he imparted to you.

Speaker 55 And he was, he was like some sort of Yoda.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 110 He still, I mean, he was full of wisdom.

Speaker 58 He really was full of wisdom.

Speaker 20 But I didn't find out,

Speaker 136 I didn't find out until push came to shove.

Speaker 13 He didn't live that wisdom.

Speaker 50 Yeah, it's kind of learned it. It's weird.

Speaker 87 It's so hard to get my head around that.

Speaker 66 I know.

Speaker 109 Man.

Speaker 80 Everything.

Speaker 80 Everything that I thought about my dad

Speaker 48 turned out to be

Speaker 73 not true.

Speaker 124 And it was,

Speaker 136 you know, I've talked about it cryptically over the last five years or so

Speaker 136 and said, someday I'll tell you I've lost my best friend.

Speaker 169 You didn't know that it was my dad.

Speaker 41 And it was a hard, hard road to hoe.

Speaker 66 Glenbeck program.

Speaker 135 Look at me.

Speaker 135 The Glenbeck Program.

Speaker 100 So let me put what I just said to you.

Speaker 141 Change of perspective is the biggest miracle you can have.

Speaker 54 Let me show you this in real time.

Speaker 122 This is last night.

Speaker 40 This is as I climbed into bed and I was in a really bad mood.

Speaker 37 I wrote,

Speaker 109 wow,

Speaker 46 I saw it.

Speaker 6 The moon actually came between us and the sun.

Speaker 83 Like that almost never happens, or actually it does, but we don't usually see it because we can't stand in the middle of the parking lot that's in the middle of the ocean because there's no office buildings in the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 102 But I just keep replaying this in my head over and over.

Speaker 142 I can't seem to shake it.

Speaker 95 Do you know how sometimes...

Speaker 9 Sometimes when you go to a concert and the band isn't as good as when you hear them on the radio?

Speaker 28 Yeah, not here.

Speaker 171 No, sir.

Speaker 4 This eclipse was everything we were promised, and perhaps even more.

Speaker 53 It looks just like it does on TV, except perhaps maybe less impressive and smaller.

Speaker 73 But wow, was that worth the 99-year wait or however long it was or will be till we see it again next time?

Speaker 46 I'm going to be telling my children's children's, children's children for years to come about how everything almost seemed to stand still as we all held our breath, standing there wearing stupid paper glasses that somebody actually paid for, staring up at the sky, just not knowing, will the sun return?

Speaker 83 It's just like the feeling I had when Reagan was shot.

Speaker 32 I remember where I was when he was shot.

Speaker 46 Or or maybe the way you felt after, you know, midnight on the year 2000.

Speaker 44 Oh, do you remember the Y2K panic?

Speaker 28 Perhaps for you, maybe it was more like the entire month of the CNN coverage of that missing plane.

Speaker 83 Wow, where were you when you first saw the coverage on CNN?

Speaker 140 I, for one, I think, were out in a parking lot with other sheep then and now, but that was just my experience.

Speaker 32 Take a moment to really ponder

Speaker 93 the millions of stories that are out there today.

Speaker 88 Where were you?

Speaker 115 when the eclipse happened.

Speaker 92 We can only hope TV news will let us hear some of them in the the days to come.

Speaker 54 All unique, sure, all of them, and none of them driven by a massive fear of missing out.

Speaker 49 What are the odds that someone else stood in the parking lot like I did looking up while hearing someone else say, wow, look how dark it's getting.

Speaker 46 Pins and needles, people, effing pins and needles.

Speaker 34 I laughed, I cried, I had the chills.

Speaker 37 Truly, truly, and I know it's been said before, this time I mean it better than cats.

Speaker 75 If the eclipse comes to your town, don't miss it.

Speaker 114 So that's what I wrote last night.

Speaker 76 Can you take a moment of enjoyment out of life?

Speaker 99 No, yesterday,

Speaker 50 hang on, hang on.

Speaker 25 Last night, no.

Speaker 115 Change of perspective.

Speaker 74 Today,

Speaker 7 not

Speaker 120 in a mood.

Speaker 74 Today, let me share this perspective.

Speaker 20 This summer, I was up at the ranch,

Speaker 40 and we were roasting marshmallows over a fire.

Speaker 54 And we were standing there, and we were talking, and we were reading, I was reading the kids' stories.

Speaker 94 And the fire starts to go down, and you see the Milky Way.

Speaker 89 Now, where I have

Speaker 155 cabin, it's this, it's, there's no, there's no lights anywhere.

Speaker 44 There's no electricity for miles.

Speaker 89 And so it is beautiful at night.

Speaker 20 And the sky is three-dimensional.

Speaker 83 And I remember the first time when I was living in New York, and the first time I went out there and I started seeing the sky, I realized I hadn't seen the stars in forever.

Speaker 163 I hadn't seen,

Speaker 38 I hadn't really looked at the moon because man's

Speaker 37 construction of buildings was really impressive.

Speaker 66 The cities were awesome and it made you feel small.

Speaker 62 But I never felt small like I do when you're standing around a campfire.

Speaker 74 And I was just thinking about this this summer.

Speaker 145 The problem is we no longer look up.

Speaker 79 We no longer

Speaker 103 think, wow, there's something much bigger than me.

Speaker 41 I'm very, very, very small.

Speaker 75 And yesterday, we had that opportunity, and I'm the one who missed it.

Speaker 93 We had the opportunity to go out and look up

Speaker 163 and experience

Speaker 78 just how small

Speaker 81 and unimportant in some ways we are to the rest of the universe.

Speaker 148 It was humbling.

Speaker 75 And instead of me coming home

Speaker 75 and hearing about the kids and their experience with the eclipse,

Speaker 20 I came home in a bad mood and I didn't really care about the eclipse

Speaker 136 because perhaps I was feeling

Speaker 140 not small enough yesterday.

Speaker 141 That's a miracle.

Speaker 164 A miracle is just a change in perspective.

Speaker 92 And I pray to have many,

Speaker 54 many more of those.

Speaker 89 So you're happy again? Is that

Speaker 20 miserable? I'm always miserable.

Speaker 131 Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Who's the guy that we had on here that was talking about flow?

Speaker 109 Remember that guy?

Speaker 1 Yes. We had the guy in here talking about flow, talking about creative flow.

Speaker 75 I can't remember which book that was because we've read 1,400 of them in the past few months.

Speaker 1 But that was one of the things he talked about. And that's kind of what kicks it off.

Speaker 1 You can get into that mode of real creativity and understanding.

Speaker 1 you know, having a different perspective on the world from just massive feats of nature that kind of kicks the human being into that, you know, world.

Speaker 1 And I think we see that a lot of times with faith, too. And that, you know, those moments of like, wow, look at that.
I mean, how can you say there's no God when you look at that?

Speaker 1 That moment is, I think, you know, it's a real moment for people, and it does change perspectives.

Speaker 123 That's cute, but I can't be happy as long as there's offensive statues still up.

Speaker 99 I just can't.

Speaker 134 And I can't be happy.

Speaker 20 And quite honestly, I'm having a hard time with your, oh, wow, how could there not be a God when the flat earthers explained this yesterday?

Speaker 125 They did.

Speaker 87 And they explained it well. They did.
Apparently, there's a dome over our flat Earth.

Speaker 47 So the dome, I guess, is somewhat semi-circular, circular, right? It's a dome.

Speaker 66 It's a dome, it's a dome.

Speaker 123 But the Earth itself is just a flat round disk. Yes.
And then we've got a dome over the top of all of that.

Speaker 1 That's why it looks like it's kind of going on, like it would be if we were theoretically eclipse.

Speaker 123 Well, that's the logical explanation.

Speaker 83 And they also say, boy, isn't it interesting, isn't it interesting that the moon and the sun look to us to be the same size, except you say one is really, really giant.

Speaker 1 One is 400 times as far away, but it's also one four hundredth the size. Come on, people.

Speaker 87 How can you believe that? That's stupid.

Speaker 123 I mean, the sun is not 92 million miles away. It's 37 miles away.

Speaker 155 That is what the Flat Earth Society would like to point out.

Speaker 114 37 miles.

Speaker 20 37 miles away.

Speaker 47 It's really the size it looks.

Speaker 123 So.

Speaker 62 And how is all that heat traveling through all that cold?

Speaker 88 It's not.

Speaker 114 It's not just 37 miles and it's here and if it's really that cold out there How come it's hot here and cold in space?

Speaker 50 It's a good That doesn't make any sense if it was warming all the way through those 92 million miles space would be warm right

Speaker 46 It's suddenly warm here and cold in space. Come on.

Speaker 20 We all know that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 123 You can't expect us to believe this stuff.

Speaker 1 They went to a point of like actually making diagrams of the sun and the moon and the earth and showing how see this the shadows would be much bigger if that were true. That was their big point.

Speaker 50 What? How?

Speaker 15 I mean, wow.

Speaker 99 How? How, how, how do they explain?

Speaker 54 Did we go to the moon? Do you know?

Speaker 89 Have you no, no, we've not been to the moon.

Speaker 114 No.

Speaker 114 Don't be silly.

Speaker 123 That was done on a, on a, uh,

Speaker 123 on a lot in either Nevada or California.

Speaker 114 I can't remember where.

Speaker 50 Where you've actually talked to the president of the.

Speaker 123 Yeah, it's been a long time. I think it was like 20 years ago.

Speaker 123 I was in Salt Lake City at the time, so I think it was 97 or 98. And

Speaker 123 yeah,

Speaker 123 I was really surprised by a couple of things, like the distance of the sun from the earth, which I would really like to talk to them.

Speaker 89 I'd like to hear fun.

Speaker 28 I'd like to hear people.

Speaker 55 And treat it, you know, like, you know, with respect.

Speaker 35 Yes.

Speaker 121 I'd like to really understand how they believe all this works.

Speaker 35 I'd love to, instead of just saying, oh, they're just a bunch of flat earthers, I really would like to understand

Speaker 99 the thinking behind it.

Speaker 114 Been in a plane?

Speaker 7 I've never run into the dome.

Speaker 126 They didn't go high enough, that's all. Is that it?

Speaker 143 You just didn't go high enough.

Speaker 20 Go higher and you'd run into the

Speaker 79 edge, too.

Speaker 114 The edge of, yeah, the edge of the disc.

Speaker 50 I've flown around the world. I've been to the edge of the zone somewhere, right?

Speaker 64 Have you?

Speaker 50 Yeah, sure. That's what you believe.

Speaker 134 I mean, but have you flown around the world?

Speaker 132 You've flown to one spot to another spot.

Speaker 33 Yeah. And you know what?

Speaker 50 The pilot said, oh, we're going.

Speaker 1 We keep going around the world.

Speaker 151 I swear.

Speaker 117 I mean, how would you know? You don't know.

Speaker 85 Is it something to do with, I mean, can you ever, do they, do you know, Pat?

Speaker 59 Can you ever get to the edge of the Earth?

Speaker 123 I know I asked him that. I don't remember what the answer was.

Speaker 123 I don't remember.

Speaker 50 I demand that you find the ways that these guys are.

Speaker 123 It might have been centrifugal force, which they may believe in, but they don't believe in gravity. So I can't believe they believe in centrifugal.

Speaker 120 So like we're in a giant Roundup.

Speaker 123 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 20 And we're just spinning around really fast. Yeah.

Speaker 125 Well, how come we're not all this?

Speaker 114 You would think some of the water would splash over the earth,

Speaker 50 And well, what do you think is causing the waves?

Speaker 29 And how come, how come we're not all just like

Speaker 20 you know, pressed up against the middle, you know, a mountain in the middle of the disk?

Speaker 4 If we're on the ground up and there's that centrifugal force, shouldn't we all just be like pressed up against a mountain?

Speaker 109 I

Speaker 123 we're these are questions we're going to have to ask of him.

Speaker 18 Okay, well, anyway, I don't know the answer to them for those of you who believe in you know the sun and the moon and the

Speaker 99 spherical earth.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

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Speaker 23 There is a

Speaker 155 what I would consider a really risky bet

Speaker 88 that

Speaker 50 things are going to change and the governments of the world are going to allow private businesses to control money.

Speaker 124 And that bet is Bitcoin. And a friend of mine who runs zapo.com, x-a-p-o.com,

Speaker 165 happens to be in town.

Speaker 13 He grew up in Argentina, and he remembers when the currency collapsed.

Speaker 84 And the stories that he has told me are just

Speaker 28 unbelievable.

Speaker 18 And

Speaker 136 there is this run on Bitcoin that's going right now.

Speaker 20 And I don't know if it's real or not.

Speaker 37 I think it is.

Speaker 20 But I don't know what's going to happen to Bitcoin.

Speaker 92 I can't imagine the central banks of the world saying, oh, you know what?

Speaker 21 We're going to get out of that business.

Speaker 50 I just, I can't imagine it.

Speaker 86 But he says that Bitcoin is going to be more important or a bigger change to our lives than the internet.

Speaker 81 And he's a Silicon Valley.

Speaker 50 Wow, really?

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 75 He's a Silicon Valley entrepreneur and deep, deep thinker.

Speaker 13 And I don't think he's ever been on this show before and wanted to have him in.

Speaker 164 He happened to be in town and was going to stop by, and I asked him if he would be willing to come in and just explain Bitcoin and what's happening and what he believes the future looks like that's coming up.

Speaker 1 And he's going to bring us a handful of Bitcoin each, which is nice. I thought that was a nice way to

Speaker 20 A, they don't exist.

Speaker 167 And

Speaker 74 maybe we don't have to. But I don't think at the price, they're just going to start giving them out.

Speaker 50 Probably not.

Speaker 1 No, they're about 4,000 per coin right now.

Speaker 1 Now, remember, when Donald Trump announced for president, we came down the golden escalator, they were about $260.

Speaker 1 And now they're $4,000.

Speaker 1 I mean, first of all, Donald Trump coming down the escalator feels like it was 1874, but it was not. It was actually 2015, but just a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 And you could have made 20 times your money almost.

Speaker 156 So the first time Bitcoin was ever used in a transaction, it was used to buy a pizza.

Speaker 1 I think it was Papa John's pizza.

Speaker 89 Okay.

Speaker 29 So we're not talking an extravagant pizza, but I don't remember how many Bitcoins it took to actually buy the pizza, but it was.

Speaker 123 8,900.

Speaker 19 It was 8,900.

Speaker 99 No.

Speaker 126 No, close.

Speaker 1 It was 10,000.

Speaker 89 10,000? 10,000

Speaker 74 Bitcoins.

Speaker 35 So if you paid for that pizza, if you had those 10,000 Bitcoins

Speaker 87 today,

Speaker 132 it's a good number.

Speaker 55 You're at, let's say, $40 million, $40 million pizza.

Speaker 140 That was a $40 million pizza.

Speaker 110 So it was. Whoever made that pizza.

Speaker 72 It was an extravagant pizza.

Speaker 50 I won't have you back.

Speaker 72 It was a Papa John's pizza.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 13 You know how there are people in Silicon Valley that, you know, they're putting gold leaf on their steaks and stuff.

Speaker 62 That's just like eating $40 million worth of gold.

Speaker 1 And it was a Papa John's pizza. It wasn't good enough to justify $40 million.

Speaker 105 There have been times in my life where you would have spent $40 million on a pizza.

Speaker 50 I would have...

Speaker 114 Like right now.

Speaker 89 I would have.

Speaker 123 I'm not hungry right now.

Speaker 20 How much money do you have on you?

Speaker 50 Because I can make make it.

Speaker 155 It's amazing.

Speaker 92 I'd love to talk to that guy and see how many Bitcoin he has left.

Speaker 1 He's one of the original miners and everything. So he probably, that was not his only stash, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 He's probably still very wealthy at this time.

Speaker 72 $40 million

Speaker 107 on a pizza.

Speaker 3 Jeez.

Speaker 80 And it wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 71 No. It wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 131 So

Speaker 79 a

Speaker 45 I have a friend that we met maybe

Speaker 169 four or five years ago and asked him to come by to explain Bitcoin the first time we met

Speaker 154 and

Speaker 154 didn't get it.

Speaker 26 And still, Bitcoin is such a foreign concept to most people that you

Speaker 142 it's hard to get your arms around and hard to see the world changing this much.

Speaker 59 But then take a gander.

Speaker 154 Look at what is happening to the world.

Speaker 41 This is the kind of change that we're headed for.

Speaker 26 We have Wenches Caesarius.

Speaker 23 He is the CEO of Xapo.com. This is a wallet.

Speaker 96 He's a startup guy.

Speaker 62 It's a Bitcoin wallet.

Speaker 154 And full disclosure, the company that I use to

Speaker 79 buy and keep Bitcoin

Speaker 71 could be one of those things that,

Speaker 85 you know, you know, those people who are like, yeah, my grandfather bought something, you know,

Speaker 35 stock in this thing called the telephone.

Speaker 10 And now you have an empire.

Speaker 17 That's kind of the deal.

Speaker 43 It was 10 years ago that one of the first guys to do a person-to-person, in fact, I think he was the first guy to do a person-to-person transaction, bought a pizza with Bitcoin seven years ago.

Speaker 29 The Bitcoin that it took to buy that Papa John's pizza today worth $40 million.

Speaker 154 And that was seven years ago. What is coming in the future?

Speaker 13 We begin there, right now.

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Speaker 53 Wenches Casarius, he is the CEO of Zappo.com, XAPO.com.

Speaker 13 He's a technology entrepreneur, founder, and CEO of this Bitcoin wallet startup.

Speaker 164 He says that Bitcoin will end up being bigger than the internet itself and changing our lives more than the internet that is quite a claim winches

Speaker 143 yes

Speaker 174 i also uh think that bitcoin is an experiment still and as such it has

Speaker 174 chances of failing and chances of failing that are non-trivial so yes it's quite probable that it can also fail But if it succeeds, it's likely to be more important than the internet itself, especially for many billions of people, I could imagine in the future preferring that you take away their internet, but not their Bitcoin.

Speaker 96 Okay, so I want to get to that here in a second, but I want to just explain what he just said was so true.

Speaker 168 And it's why I've said to people, look, you have $500,

Speaker 80 you should put it into Bitcoin, but don't put anything into Bitcoin that you actually think, oh man, I'd hate to lose that.

Speaker 23 Then don't put it in because it is really risky.

Speaker 81 You don't make the kind of money that is being made even right now

Speaker 92 on something that's not risky.

Speaker 166 This is really risky.

Speaker 174 This is incredibly risky. And what you're saying is very good advice, which is nobody should own an amount of Bitcoin they cannot afford to lose because they may very well lose it.

Speaker 174 So it's important to understand that any money you cannot afford to lose, you should not have in Bitcoin. It should only be play money that if you lose it, you're okay.

Speaker 143 It's a small amount.

Speaker 13 And that kind of explains, I mean,

Speaker 20 what is it, 90%, Stu, of the people who own Bitcoin, maybe even more,

Speaker 71 own less than one Bitcoin.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 21 I mean, people are in it literally for $500

Speaker 14 or $100 or whatever. Is there a minimum getting in?

Speaker 174 There is no minimum.

Speaker 50 Okay.

Speaker 113 So tell me how.

Speaker 14 you believe people will say, don't take my Bitcoin, but you can take my internet.

Speaker 59 What do you mean by that

Speaker 159 um

Speaker 174 understanding bitcoin bitcoin is simpler than the internet really at a technical level if you will and i think that when people don't understand it it's not their fault but our fault the people explaining it we make it more complicated than it needs to be because it makes us sound more intelligent i guess or something but we try that a lot too it doesn't work for us

Speaker 174 you think about it most people feel

Speaker 174 um confident and comfortable about their understanding of the Internet,

Speaker 174 without really understanding how

Speaker 174 it really works, technically. It's not necessary to understand it.

Speaker 174 Or even a credit card, right? Pe most people feel very confident with a credit card, understanding how it works.

Speaker 174 But if you ask them what happens when you swipe the card, where does that information go? Does it go to your bank or to the merchant's bank? At what point does it get approved?

Speaker 50 Who says it, right?

Speaker 174 We don't really need to u understand all of those details to understand how credit cards work and what they can and cannot do for us, etc.

Speaker 174 Same thing with the internet and the same thing for Bitcoin. And the things that do matter and that we need to understand of Bitcoin are quite simple really, and it's three.

Speaker 174 Three things that make Bitcoin unique, that were not,

Speaker 174 that did not exist before Bitcoin existed, that Bitcoin brought to the world. Number one and most important

Speaker 174 is that it's not controlled by anyone, and it is not possible to control it.

Speaker 174 It's a key feature, without it it would be irrelevant. It has a lot of very positive consequences.
It has some potentially negative consequences, but it's what makes Bitcoin Bitcoin.

Speaker 174 It's nobody can control it. Not me, not any group of people, not any company, not any country, not any army.
Nobody can control it. That's number one.

Speaker 174 Number two is there will never be more than 21 million Bitcoin. It's a finite number.

Speaker 174 And that cannot be changed. And number three.

Speaker 174 Whenever you have some Bitcoin, you are free to send it to anyone you want, anywhere in the world, pretty much in real time and pretty much

Speaker 174 free or very, very low cost.

Speaker 174 That last quality, it's quite revolutionary and

Speaker 174 a lot of people call it the uncensorability of Bitcoin. No one can keep you from acquiring some Bitcoin.
It's impossible to do.

Speaker 174 Nobody can keep you from keeping those Bitcoin and no one can keep you from sending those Bitcoin to whomever you want.

Speaker 174 When you put those three qualities together, and that's really all you need to understand about Bitcoin, how that gets accomplished, it's complicated and technical, but not really needed to understand, just like you don't need to understand how the internet manages to deliver all of these movies and stuff that it does, right?

Speaker 141 You grew up in Argentina when the economy collapsed, when the money collapsed.

Speaker 125 Correct.

Speaker 63 And I'm imagining that that drives you quite a bit when it comes to Bitcoin.

Speaker 174 I think so, yes.

Speaker 174 I would imagine so. so.

Speaker 154 Tell me the story of

Speaker 166 what it's like when there's a currency collapse.

Speaker 174 My parents are sheep ranchers and in my lifetime, in my childhood, I saw them lose everything three times. The first time that I have a memory of it, it's because of a hyperinflation.

Speaker 174 And I have this...

Speaker 174 Every time that they lose everything, it was because something happened with the country.

Speaker 174 Either hyperinflation or the government confiscated all bank deposits or a huge devaluation right all kinds of crazy experiments that are hard to fathom from the perspective of someone who has lived in an economy where you always been able to trust the dollar and the banks and so did your parents and grandparents I have this memory of my mom coming to get my two sisters and I out of school that never happened before so something was going on

Speaker 174 and in the middle of the school day and she was carrying two plastic bags full of cash and she was a

Speaker 174 a receptionist at the government bureau and she had just been paid. And her salary fit two

Speaker 174 plastic bags of cash, of bills. And she took us to the supermarket and she gave us each a list

Speaker 174 and told us what to

Speaker 174 carry. You each had an aisle.

Speaker 174 We got all of those things and we all met at the cashier.

Speaker 159 And after

Speaker 174 everything had gone through the cashier, there was some l money left over and she sent us back to get more stuff. And one of my sisters asked, why don't we save some money for tomorrow?

Speaker 174 And my mom explained, no, tomorrow it's going to be worth less. We have to spend it all today.

Speaker 174 And I will never forget that, partly because it's easy to understand the economic and financial consequences

Speaker 174 in a family, in a society of that. But it's harder to imagine what's really going on, which is much more beyond the financial consequences.

Speaker 174 It said something happens to the social fabric when people cannot trust something as basic as money, and a lot of people go crazy and desperate, and something very quickly, some trust breaks down that takes years

Speaker 174 or generations to rebuild.

Speaker 13 I'm talking to the CEO of Zapo.com, X-A-P-O.com.

Speaker 156 It is

Speaker 71 a Bitcoin

Speaker 59 wallet startup.

Speaker 71 So I buy my Bitcoin, and it's it's now in a wallet.

Speaker 13 It's in your bank, if you will.

Speaker 141 If I'm not mistaken, your bank is buried in some mountain in Switzerland or something, right?

Speaker 50 Correct.

Speaker 166 But it's not a bank like we think of a bank.

Speaker 135 No.

Speaker 174 It is a banking that you can use as

Speaker 69 to

Speaker 174 buy Bitcoin,

Speaker 174 to keep the Bitcoin safely, to make it very easy to acquire the Bitcoin, to store them safely, to send Bitcoin. It is not like a bank in a more technical manner in which today

Speaker 174 when you go to a normal bank, they own your money and they owe it to you.

Speaker 174 So if you look at their balance sheet, they have an asset that is the money you gave them and a liability that is what they owe to you.

Speaker 174 We are a purely custodian. So we do not own your Bitcoins.
Your Bitcoins are only yours. And there's many reasons why we think that that's a lot safer.

Speaker 174 So we are the digital equivalent of a safety deposit box, right?

Speaker 159 And

Speaker 174 the safety deposit box is ours, but whatever is inside, it's yours. And if we were to disappear or go bankrupt, what can go away is the safety deposit box, but the contents have to go back to you.

Speaker 165 And what makes you think that, well, before we get there, tell me what happened with this fork in the road?

Speaker 59 Because this caused some

Speaker 14 real panic with people because they didn't know.

Speaker 88 They really didn't even understand the concept that Bitcoin, because

Speaker 20 it's becoming to be used more frequently, I believe Japan now is recognized as an official currency.

Speaker 71 And if I'm not mistaken, isn't Japan becoming a Bitcoin society?

Speaker 88 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 139 So and because the transactions are happening so rapidly,

Speaker 39 there was talk about we have to have a faster way to process these.

Speaker 173 This is my understanding.

Speaker 94 And there became this fork in the road between Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin.

Speaker 20 I don't know the difference. What is the difference?

Speaker 174 Not really, again, it's not really a very big deal. Basically, what happened? And Bitcoin is an open source software.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 174 we all can see every single line is public.

Speaker 174 And the five of us could do another

Speaker 174 fork again if we wanted. We just copy all the code, paste it, and run it ourselves or run it with another group of people.

Speaker 174 And it's up to the market to decide if they want to use ours or the other one.

Speaker 174 So this was always a possibility.

Speaker 174 Finally, someone did it for the first time. I think this will be a feature of Bitcoin going forward.
We will see forks here and there.

Speaker 159 And

Speaker 174 there will always be one

Speaker 174 version of Bitcoin that is the most used, the one that has the longest history.

Speaker 174 And then there will be others that will be like cousins that were derived of Bitcoin, but will turn out to be different, right?

Speaker 169 Can you turn your Bitcoin into cash?

Speaker 174 Of course, into normal cash? Yeah.

Speaker 143 Of course.

Speaker 174 It's like any currency. Yeah.

Speaker 164 And what is the percentage now of things that you can buy?

Speaker 154 I mean, there was a big push.

Speaker 47 We spoke five years ago.

Speaker 13 Let's get, you know, people need to start, you know, companies need to start taking Bitcoin as payment.

Speaker 169 What are the big companies doing to

Speaker 107 accept it?

Speaker 14 Are you seeing any big movement?

Speaker 174 There's about 100,000

Speaker 174 merchants online that accept Bitcoin.

Speaker 174 It's my opinion that

Speaker 174 Bitcoin has been around for

Speaker 174 less than nine years, and it will take another decade or two for it to get established. I think that the age of Bitcoin

Speaker 174 becoming

Speaker 174 a way to pay at a merchant is quite far away. I think that the stage, the era we're looking at is about something very different.

Speaker 174 In fact, I think that things like what we are seeing, we had to go this year through the fork for everybody to stop worrying about and learn that it's not a big deal.

Speaker 174 Forks are something we can live with. It doesn't really hurt anyone.

Speaker 174 But until it happened, a lot of people were freaking out about it, right? And I can tell you so many things that people freaked out about every three months in Bitcoin.

Speaker 174 And we have to see them happen for people to say, oh, it's good. oh, it's well thought out, oh, it's robust, it works.
I think we have a lot more of that to come.

Speaker 174 Right now, I think Bitcoin is in this first stage establishing itself more as

Speaker 174 a

Speaker 174 not so much for payment, as a way, more what you said that you're doing, Glenn, which is you're holding it. as a store of value just in case.

Speaker 174 Not unlike what some families did with they had somewhere in the house a stash of some

Speaker 174 jewelry just in case, right?

Speaker 50 Or some gold.

Speaker 174 It's more like that.

Speaker 174 And only if it succeeds at that first, with very massive adoption, the hundreds of millions of people, it will then make sense as a payment mechanism. But right now it's a bit too early.

Speaker 174 It can be used

Speaker 174 and a lot of people do use it. But from my subjective point of view, the more important thing that is happening at this stage is it's expanding as a store of value.

Speaker 139 Wenches Casarius, he is the CEO of Zapo.com, X-A-P-O.com.

Speaker 58 You should check it out.

Speaker 157 And as I said earlier,

Speaker 81 don't put money into this that

Speaker 13 you can't easily say, ah, I'm fine without it.

Speaker 36 This at this point is one of those things that

Speaker 13 could make you a lot of money and you could lose every single dime.

Speaker 87 And

Speaker 93 so you you put just a little bit in there to just what the heck let's give it a whirl and see what happens thank you inches i appreciate it

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Speaker 50 We're going to have

Speaker 96 the CEO of Zapo stay with us for a second because we were just talking in the break. There is a real downside, a risk to this, but the world completely changes

Speaker 78 if it works.

Speaker 91 And you were just saying that there's about a 20% chance you lose all the money, right?

Speaker 174 I would say at least a 20% chance you lose all the money.

Speaker 20 And you said you thought that there was...

Speaker 114 On the other hand, there's some upside.

Speaker 50 You were saying that there's a 50% chance

Speaker 87 that

Speaker 20 Bitcoin, one single Bitcoin now worth $4,000 was worth $200,000 when Trump took that long escalator ride down two years ago.

Speaker 13 You're saying that in 10 years, you believe that could hit $1 million.

Speaker 174 I think there is a 50% chance that one Bitcoin could be worth

Speaker 174 more than $1 million.

Speaker 66 That's more than a $4,000 investment.

Speaker 50 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 174 What I would say is that

Speaker 174 it's very worthwhile. Just like I would say, the most irresponsible thing you could do would be to own an amount of Bitcoin you cannot afford to lose.

Speaker 174 To have the kids' college fund there or your retirement or a mortgage, that would be really the most irresponsible thing to do.

Speaker 64 But if you put

Speaker 74 $500 in because you're like, you know what, we're going to scrimp and we're going to save, and I'm not touching our savings, I'm not touching anything.

Speaker 83 We're just going to stop going to movies, going out to eat for a while.

Speaker 170 I'll put $500 in.

Speaker 74 $500 is worth a lot of money if this is right in 10 years.

Speaker 64 Yeah,

Speaker 174 that's my point:

Speaker 174 the second most irresponsible thing you could do is not to have any, right? It's so asymmetrical that you can have something that doesn't really

Speaker 174 material to you, but it can have a very material impact on your life. So why not do it?

Speaker 50 Okay, back in just a second.

Speaker 24 What does the world look like should he be right

Speaker 49 when we come back?

Speaker 71 So you got to stop going out to eat now.

Speaker 99 Yeah. So yeah.

Speaker 72 This is the Glenn Beck program.

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Speaker 143 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 155 Wenches Casarius.

Speaker 11 He is the CEO of Zapo.com, X-A-P-O.com.

Speaker 89 Full disclosure, I am a client, have been for a while, of Wenches' company,

Speaker 121 bought Bitcoin and bought it in a way that I think is reasonable.

Speaker 20 You have to make your own decisions, but

Speaker 13 I looked at

Speaker 13 what we have in savings and said,

Speaker 154 honey, what are we willing just to throw?

Speaker 20 If we were going out on a crazy bender,

Speaker 19 what would you be comfortable losing on a crazy bender?

Speaker 28 You know, for our 20th anniversary or whatever,

Speaker 20 we just flush it down the toilet.

Speaker 59 What's that number?

Speaker 157 She came up with the number and I I looked at it and said, okay, maybe a little lower than that or a little higher than that.

Speaker 1 Did she shudder when you said 20th anniversary?

Speaker 2 Yeah, she did.

Speaker 50 And she thought blackouts would be included.

Speaker 70 So she was willing to go a little higher.

Speaker 56 But anyway,

Speaker 113 and that's what you put in.

Speaker 20 You don't put money in this at this point.

Speaker 13 I think it's irresponsible to advise you to put money into this because you could lose every penny of this.

Speaker 109 And I think you could lose every penny because I just don't see a way to where the central banks say, okay, well, we're going to let a private industry go ahead and take the money supply over.

Speaker 13 But maybe we can get to that.

Speaker 37 I want to get to the upside on this because I just read an article and Stu and I were talking about it last week that some experts are saying that Bitcoin could go up to what was it, 200,000?

Speaker 1 I think it was 10,000 to 100,000 is the idea.

Speaker 81 And you're saying that you think in 10 years that it could go up to a million plus

Speaker 173 in Bitcoin.

Speaker 99 Yes.

Speaker 174 I think that what you are giving is very sound advice. Nobody should own an amount of Bitcoin they cannot afford to lose because they may very well lose it and regret it.

Speaker 75 And you could buy $5 worth.

Speaker 174 You can buy any amount. $5, $2, $10, any amount you want.

Speaker 174 And I think the most irresponsible mistake would be to own an amount of Bitcoin that you cannot afford to lose. But the second most irresponsible would be to not own any.

Speaker 174 Because I do think that if Bitcoin succeeds, it's likely to be worth more than

Speaker 174 a million dollars in less than 10 years. And I think there's about a 50% chance of that.

Speaker 26 That would have sounded crazy

Speaker 58 even three years ago.

Speaker 174 I think it still sounds crazy,

Speaker 174 and I think there's tons of risk to it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but

Speaker 164 it's not as crazy as it was when it was at 0.008 cents.

Speaker 174 And every day that Bitcoin doesn't disappear and that we can remove another layer of fear.

Speaker 143 Oh, we have fear of the Chinese or we have fear of the fork or we have fear.

Speaker 174 There's always something.

Speaker 64 Every day we go past one hurdle.

Speaker 174 It's more likely to succeed.

Speaker 54 Is there an event that would

Speaker 154 change the game for Bitcoin in a positive way?

Speaker 174 I get it a lot from questions like this from journalists and also venture capitalists and other types who

Speaker 174 who have part of their job is to chase

Speaker 174 news or shiny new objects.

Speaker 174 I think the

Speaker 174 rise of Bitcoin

Speaker 174 is meant to be boring, like the rise of email, right? If someone was charged with reporting with the rise of email, it would have been the most boring thing ever.

Speaker 50 Oh, today there's

Speaker 50 X more people using email and now they're using it also for work, not just to say happy birthday.

Speaker 174 Oh, now there are more messages being sent, but it's just more, more of the same.

Speaker 174 So if you do a copy-paste of the last eight years of Bitcoin one or two times, it gets there without anything shiny or new. It succeeds.
Today there's about 35 million people who own Bitcoin.

Speaker 174 There's about 250,000 new people buying Bitcoin every day. It's moving about half a million.

Speaker 174 half a billion dollars a day, $500 million a day, and it's doubling every six months.

Speaker 90 What does the world look like when Bitcoin is,

Speaker 59 let's just say, makes it to $500,000

Speaker 71 per coin?

Speaker 174 I think that a world in which Bitcoin succeeds,

Speaker 174 it's a world in which Bitcoin has become the world's first global, non-political standard of value

Speaker 174 and at the same time the first global non-political standard of settlement.

Speaker 174 This sounds very conceptual, but I'll give you very tangible, very concrete examples of what this means.

Speaker 174 We used to have this for 5,000 years in the form of gold, but about 500 years ago, gold was slowly replaced by reserve currencies, the last one being the dollar.

Speaker 174 And the reserve currencies have not been so good at being a standard of value.

Speaker 174 For example,

Speaker 174 if I want to compare how much my grandfather paid for his first cabin in Patagonia when he first got there

Speaker 174 with how much your grandfather paid for a cabin somewhere or a house somewhere,

Speaker 174 then we can very easily compare the square footage of my grandfather's cabin with your grandfather's, but when we want to compare the value, it's complicated because there are different currencies, different times.

Speaker 174 complicated and sometimes even it will involve some subjectivity in how we calculate it. And in truth,

Speaker 174 it should be just as easy as comparing square feet.

Speaker 174 It used to be just as easy.

Speaker 174 If you want to compare how much it costs Genghis Gunn to put together his army, which how much it costs Cleopatra to put together her army, even though they're very different time periods, very different geographies with very different military technologies, it's very easy to compare because both did it around the gold standard and you can measure very easily.

Speaker 141 People don't understand a $20 gold piece, you used to be able to walk in and buy a really good suit, I mean

Speaker 163 man suit for,

Speaker 62 and maybe a shave and a haircut for a $20 gold piece.

Speaker 93 That's about what that same $20 gold piece would buy you today if you walked in.

Speaker 140 It's just an ounce, and an ounce of gold is about, you know, $1,500, $2,000.

Speaker 20 And so a really, really good suit, that's what you're paying.

Speaker 44 That shows you the inflation.

Speaker 24 It should be

Speaker 20 $20.

Speaker 47 It still is, according to gold, $20,

Speaker 59 But the currency keeps changing.

Speaker 109 Imagine

Speaker 174 in Paris there is a meter inside the glass cage, a platinum meter inside a glass cage, and it's supposed to represent the standard of a meter. And a thousand of those, it's a kilometer.

Speaker 174 And it makes length comparisons very easy. But imagine if, according to some political necessity of the year, we change it a little every year.

Speaker 64 We make it a little longer, sometimes sometimes a lot longer, sometimes maybe a little shorter.

Speaker 174 Imagine how hard it would be to compare any lengths or to just keep track of stuff. And well, that's what we're doing with value, and it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 Going through what you went through in Argentina,

Speaker 1 do you see the same types of things in other countries like this one?

Speaker 157 Give me the signs.

Speaker 1 As far as the hyperinflation, I mean, with this world you're talking about with million-dollar Bitcoins, is this a world where

Speaker 1 national currencies have collapsed and they've gone to Bitcoin?

Speaker 175 What does that mean?

Speaker 174 No, I think that in my opinion, and again, this is subjective, in my opinion, a world in which Bitcoin succeeds, it's a world in which all countries still keep their currencies.

Speaker 174 Countries will never have an incentive to move to Bitcoin.

Speaker 174 In fact, I think it would probably be bad for national economies to switch to Bitcoin because it's giving up a lot of tools that countries can use for good if they do so responsibly.

Speaker 174 But a world in which Bitcoin succeeded is a world in which whenever you ask for the price of a currency, you say, what's the price of the the Euro? You get a price in Bitcoin.

Speaker 131 3,200 bits.

Speaker 174 And what's the price of the New Zealand dollar? 1,200 bits. And what's the price of the Turkish lira?

Speaker 175 800 bits.

Speaker 174 And when your grandkids ask you, why was it different when you were growing up? How did you ask for the price of a currency?

Speaker 174 And you'll say, well, when you ask for the price of the Euro, we said it in dollars. And when you ask for the price of the dollars, we said it in Euro or yen.

Speaker 64 It's like, wow.

Speaker 174 That's weird. You did it in terms of analysis, like asking for the price of oil and have it in terms of copper.

Speaker 175 And yeah, well, that's how we did it.

Speaker 174 A world in which Bitcoin succeeds, that goes away.

Speaker 174 And whenever you ask for the price of a currency, all the currencies exist, but they are priced in terms of Bitcoin, which is the first global, non-political standard of value.

Speaker 174 When you ask for the price of a commodity, whether it's copper or oil or something else, you get a price Bitcoin.

Speaker 174 When someone from Kenya is transacting with someone from China, then you use the Kenyan shilling or the Chinese yuan, right?

Speaker 175 And or the dollar or the Euro.

Speaker 174 They They use something that is a political,

Speaker 135 that is global.

Speaker 89 And I think that's why at least this audience

Speaker 1 is interested in this, because you have two of the things that you talked about. One is no political control.

Speaker 1 There's a healthy skepticism of government in this audience, and I think that's a great thing.

Speaker 132 And the other part is scarcity.

Speaker 1 We see, you know, every time we want to solve a problem, we print another trillion dollars.

Speaker 99 And

Speaker 1 that is something that is not possible with Bitcoin. And so it solves the two major things that I think scare people about currency.

Speaker 110 Yeah.

Speaker 174 And in that regard it could be very much like gold was for 5,000 years and gold worked really, really well as a standard of value for 5,000 years.

Speaker 174 But then it has something else, that's a standard of value part.

Speaker 174 But then it has something else that is even more powerful, that it has embedded in it a standard of settlement, meaning that anybody can settle with anyone anytime and pretty much for free without asking anyone's permission.

Speaker 174 Today, if you want to settle with someone, you you need to be part of a network. And those networks you can only belong if you're a bank.

Speaker 174 Whether it's Visa or MasterCard networks, you have to be a bank to belong, or whether it's the ACH network in the US, you have to be a bank to belong, or the SEPA network in Europe, you have to be a bank to belong there, or the Fedwire or Swift.

Speaker 174 And that adds cost, at risk, time restrictions. This is a settlement network that anybody can participate.
It's open 24-7.

Speaker 174 So imagine that Russia is

Speaker 174 at war with China. During that war, anybody from Russia can settle with anyone from China on a Sunday at 2 a.m.
without asking anyone's permission.

Speaker 174 So that makes the standard of value even more powerful because you know you can settle at any given time with anyone.

Speaker 172 Talking to Wenches

Speaker 13 Caceres, he is the CEO of Zapo.com, X-A-P-O.com.

Speaker 158 It's a Bitcoin wallet. That's where you can buy your Bitcoin and store your Bitcoin and do transactions with Bitcoin.

Speaker 41 You live through

Speaker 158 Argentina and hyperinflation, the destruction of money then.

Speaker 44 People are living in denial here in America.

Speaker 121 I mean, I talk to really smart people and I say,

Speaker 20 the stock market makes no sense.

Speaker 13 That is the beginning of hyperinflation.

Speaker 47 That is, all these big people and companies have all these great reserves.

Speaker 44 They're pouring it into the market.

Speaker 41 That's what's driving it up.

Speaker 28 It's not real.

Speaker 24 And they are in full denial that we are seeing the beginnings of inflation.

Speaker 47 It's just where the dollars are.

Speaker 4 The average person doesn't have the dollar.

Speaker 155 The big banks and corporations, they have access to the dollar and they're making lots of money on it.

Speaker 20 But it's not real.

Speaker 74 Do you see the world that way?

Speaker 174 I cannot help but seeing it that way because of the way I grew up in Argentina. I do think that we are doing something

Speaker 174 from the monetary point of view that it's new. It's an experiment.

Speaker 174 And I understand people who are much more intelligent than I am and more educated who explain to me why this experiment makes sense and why it can work well, right?

Speaker 174 It's an experiment where we never in the history of civilization have we printed this amount of money.

Speaker 174 The way the US is printing, the way Europe, the way Japan is printing, pretty much everybody. We never had this kind of

Speaker 174 printing of debt. We've never before had this negative yielding debt.
All of that is an experiment, a financial experiment of a scale never seen before.

Speaker 174 And very intelligent people who have studied a lot more than I have these subjects tell us that there are reasons why it makes sense and it may end up. Well,

Speaker 66 having

Speaker 174 grown up in Argentina, I just cannot,

Speaker 174 it goes against sort of my DNA and it makes me very, very nervous. And

Speaker 174 that's why I do think that it makes sense to have something that is completely apolitical, a standard of value with whom nobody can mess with politically or even militarily, etc., that we can all trust as much as we trusted the dollar or

Speaker 174 we trusted gold before that.

Speaker 168 The CEO of Zapoxapo.com talking about Bitcoin.

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Speaker 174 Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 81 We are going to be covering the news of the day and also looking into some things that we kind of put into action yesterday for the love of Pete.

Speaker 141 Stu is trying to work new technology and is just you will look look like but trust me on Bitcoin.

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Speaker 152 I don't understand it. It was working before.
Now it's going all upside down.

Speaker 169 Gosh, you are just

Speaker 62 ridiculous.

Speaker 109 Wait, what about it?

Speaker 125 You are absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 58 What do you guys have up for the Pat and Stew show today?

Speaker 126 Lots of good stuff.

Speaker 59 Yeah, I want to talk about this

Speaker 123 monument in Baltimore. The very first monument to Columbus in the world.
It's been there for 225 years. Somebody took a sledgehammer to it last night.

Speaker 123 Well, because he's a genocidal maniac.

Speaker 2 Of course, sure.

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 87 Why wouldn't you do that?

Speaker 123 Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you bring down the Columbus statue?

Speaker 40 Well,

Speaker 48 the Columbus Circle, I mean, we were there years ago.

Speaker 13 Lived in New York, lived by Columbus Circle, walked by it every day and go, yeah, there's not a chance this thing's going to last.

Speaker 154 I mean, just it's just not gonna last um there was some reason dershowitz i heard this morning calling for some calm and saying look let's have a rational discussion if we want to move these statues let's let's move them into museums where they belong in in history let's let's not be the people of iraq after saddam hussein for the love of peace too late for that crazy yeah apparently it is too late for that too late for that we'll see you tonight five o'clock on the blaze tv

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