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Yeah.

We have Greg Abbott coming on in just a few minutes.

Last night, Greg Abbott signed a ban on so-called sanctuary cities,

which allows police to ask about a person's immigration status and threatens sheriffs with jail if they don't cooperate with federal authorities.

He did so here in Texas over intense opposition from immigrant rights groups and Democrats who say Texas is just becoming Arizona.

No, no, it's not.

Let's face it, the reason why so many people come to America is because we're a nation of laws and Texas is doing its part to keep it that way.

He did this last night

because there were going to be big protests today as he was signing it.

So he's like,

just do it early.

So he signed it last night.

I love this guy.

I think Greg Abbott is the most

reasoned, sensible,

just right down the line

governor I have ever witnessed or I've ever lived with or voted for in a state.

I've never seen somebody as even keeled as Greg Abbott.

Would you agree with that, Stu?

Yeah, I mean,

he does not show emotion.

He doesn't seem to act

because of emotion.

Yeah, he's not flamboyant.

He's not throwing bombs.

He's not doing anything.

He's just like, no, this is not right.

And here's why.

And he reasons it out and he just does it.

Yeah.

I really like him.

So we have him coming up in

just a few minutes.

One thing they have to do as that kind of works its way through not only.

through Texas, but through a lot of states who are dealing with this, and obviously the president has made it a big priority.

They have to define actually what a sanctuary city is,

because they

there's a lot of sanctuary city, isn't a real term per se.

It's something that we've kind of like talked about.

It's a summarize the city who's ignoring some federal regulation.

But you have to come up with an actual definition for these cities to comply with.

And now, because it's a priority of the president, in particular, a lot of these cities are saying, hey, well, what is it?

Like, what do we have to do?

And you have to compl you have to comply

to the law.

You have to follow the law.

How hard is that?

Well, it seems easy.

However, they can't define it.

The cities have asked the administration, hey, what do we have to do?

And they're like, well, we don't have that fully fleshed out yet.

I mean, how hard is that?

Well, there's also some things that judges are in the middle of ruling on.

So it's not like they're just ignoring.

the responsibility to figure out a definition, but that definition has to be fleshed out.

And of course, at that point, whatever that definition is, is the absolute maximum any of these cities will do.

Right.

So you have to try to encompass as much of these problems as possible in that definition because they're not going to go any further.

They're not going to work on the spirit of the law, that's for sure.

So let's change subjects here.

Let me give you this.

Here is a liberal writer, Kurt Eichenwald.

He works for MSNBC and Newsweek.

Here's what he said about the Obamacare replacement bill.

As one with pre-existing conditions, I hope every GO peer who voted for Trump care sees a family member get long-term condition, lose insurance, and die.

Because I want them to be tortured.

GO peers only gain empathy when they're touched by the consequences, never before.

Excuse me?

Special.

Now, Andrea Mitchell, this is just pathetic.

Andrea Mitchell demands the HHS secretary defend the white male members of Congress.

Listen to this audio.

Let's talk about women.

I mean, when we looked at the Rose Garden and the celebration of this on Thursday, they were all mostly all men and white men at that.

There was no diversity there.

Women's health issues

arguably are going to be disproportionately affected.

Take a look at this.

Obamacare includes maternity and newborn care, preventative care, mammograms, cervical cancer screenings, birth control, all of this under the essential package, no longer required under this House bill.

Andrea, come on, look at that picture.

Congresswoman Diane Black, the chair of the budget committee, I was standing next to her.

Seema Verma, the administrator of CMS, I was standing right next to her.

This is a group of dozens and dozens of people.

You can cite

two or three women?

These are prominent individuals who are leading, who are leading in this area of health care.

But the goal, as I mentioned, is to make certain that every single American, men, women, rich, poor, old, young, have the kind of coverage that they want for themselves and for their families, not that government forces them to buy.

That's the change.

Can I just...

So weird.

Can I just

say, I am so tired of the gender stuff.

I'm so tired of the black-white stuff.

I'm so tired of it.

Aren't we all supposed to be equal?

Aren't we all supposed to be equal?

Aren't we all supposed to just look at each other as brothers and sisters?

Isn't that it?

We're judged on merit, right?

Right.

And judged on the merit of what things are.

Why does everything now have to come down to you're in this category or that category.

And have you thought about this category?

I'm thinking about human beings.

Now, I'm not somebody who supported this bill,

but this stuff makes me want to defend the people who did even write the bill.

But whether the bill is fantastic or horrific, you don't make decisions on the bill based on people's genitals.

That is not the right way

to,

you know what, I really respect your opinion, but you got the wrong genitals.

Sorry.

That's not a sense.

That doesn't even matter.

I mean,

how do you even know?

Yeah.

Unless you ask them how they do that they identify.

Here's Andrea Mitchell.

I would have loved for him to say, Andrea, are you judging these people by the way they are dressed?

Are you identifying their genders by the way they look or the way they dress?

You don't know how many of their identify as a woman, as a woman?

How dare you, Andrea?

It's that ridiculous.

It is that ridiculous.

It truly is that ridiculous.

And I'm just sick of it.

I'm just, you know,

remember I used to say, spit yourself out of the system.

The only way to survive is to spit yourself out of the system.

Here's the, here's the big loogie that you're spitting yourself out.

Here's the, here's the one that you really, everybody turns their head as you're getting ready to spit it out.

Get out of this kind of debate.

Just get out.

Because there's nothing good that comes from any of this.

But it's everywhere and it affects everything.

But you know what?

Sarah, do we have the Eric Lou

audio?

I want to play this.

I had Eric on Thursday

and Thursday on television.

Here's a guy who we vehemently disagree with.

Listen to this conversation.

How do we find people?

And this goes to both sides.

How do we find people on the left or the right

that just will surrender?

I don't want to win anymore.

Yeah.

I just want to stop.

Yeah.

How do we find them?

Because it's courage.

That takes profound courage.

You know, it is a,

there is a little bit of a chicken and egg to it that you can't start that cycle until you start that cycle.

Yeah.

You know, had, I mean, let's put Tavis Miley aside.

In this moment right now, I will own my piece of it.

I think the amount that Eric Liu has contributed to the toxicity and polarization of our political culture today is a small fraction of that which perhaps Glenn Beck, who has a much larger voice and platform, has contributed.

But it's really not about whether it's 95.5, 99.1, 60, 40, whatever.

My piece of this is I certainly over the years have not only contributed to a polarization of the rhetoric,

where, you know, there's been a, I wrote a piece where I said, libertarians are the new communists,

right?

Because they're just dogmatic and

they preach not control, but they just want to control what they're not control, right?

And, you know, and I did it partly for effect.

But guess what?

So did you.

Because we understood that in this media environment that we just said, yeah, not my responsibility.

I'm just playing in the game that

I walked into.

That in this game, we both knew that if we dialed it up that way, and I called you a communist and you call me a communist back or something, you call me a fascist,

that on each side we'd pile up the likes.

There have been times where I watched a debate unfold and watched people on my side start hardening into these positions that are kind of a caricature.

And I just said, you know what?

That's my side.

I know they got a good heart and I'm going to let that slide.

Or to take a very live example right now, plenty of folks, you and I have talked about this, are saying to me, hey, Eric, it's wonderful that you're now quite alert to the dangers of executive overreach now that Donald Trump is in the White House.

But why didn't you say anything when President Obama was using executive orders willy-nilly and saying outright that he would do so to bypass Congress?

Guess what my answer is?

Yeah, you're kind of right.

You're kind of right.

I own, like, during those years, I didn't say anything.

You know why?

Because I liked the outcomes that Obama was advancing through his executive orders.

And

that is so refreshing.

And for my side, that was against all of the executive orders to watch them now say, well, we have to do something.

No,

no, what we have to do is abide by our principles in the Constitution.

We abide by our principles.

And

it's.

Nobody sees that the game has just switched chairs,

switched sides,

and we've switched arguments, and it's going to switch again.

And in the end, nobody has any credibility.

Everybody has to shoot each other

because everyone knows that the other side, whichever side you're on, doesn't mean it.

Doesn't mean it.

And so you've got nothing left.

You and I have this thing in common, which

we probably maybe many years ago wouldn't admit so readily, but that is you and I are both actually earnest believers in ideas.

Yeah.

Right.

There are lots and lots of folks in politics right now, especially national politics, for whom it really is a game or performance art or just positioning, and it will flip the moment circumstances flip.

And I think

the thing that, going back to your question, like

how do we break this cycle?

Part A of the answer is we break this cycle.

You just got to start reaching out and saying.

I I keep telling people, you're just going to have to kiss a ton of frogs.

You're going to kiss a frog and they'll swear to you they're a prince and then you're going to go, nope, that wasn't you.

Yeah.

But there's nothing lost.

Here's the thing, there's nothing lost in doing that.

Right.

And I think this is one of the things that people sometimes imagine because our politics has become this tribalized, polarized, kabuki theater game, people think that it's all zero-sum, that it's a battle to the death, and that if your side makes a gain, that must mean that my side is losing.

And my answer is actually no.

Like, you know, the word you used a few minutes ago, I think, is extraordinary.

Surrender.

Right?

Surrender.

Like, I think one of the deepest insights that we're all going to wake up to eventually as a country is there are lots and lots of times in politics where you advance by yielding.

Right?

Instead of jamming through and thinking, my job is to grind this other guy to dust.

If I say, hey, my job is to recognize that politics is a game of infinite repeat play, and you win some and you lose some, and I'll concede this point.

I won't fight this point, and I know next time I'm going to get the point or whatever, that's a different mindset, right?

And yielding isn't being weak.

Yielding is saying, we share responsibility for this thing, right?

And it's not just a game.

It's not just a cynical performance.

We actually own the Republic.

We're actually, you and I,

1791, You know,

you're saying we are stewards of something called the Bill of Rights.

We are stewards.

You know,

if I started a clothing company, it would be 1868.

Because I like the 14th Amendment, right?

I like the way in which the 14th Amendment redeems promises that have been made in the original Constitution but not actually delivered upon.

I would agree with you, but

I go back to everything past really the first 10 amendments are just, no, stupid.

Listen.

This is is what we were saying.

The first 10 really cover all of it.

The other amendments are just like, oh my gosh, do I really have to spell this out?

You've just done con law in 30 seconds, right?

Right.

I mean, it's ridiculous.

No, the 14th Amendment, but again, I mean,

this idea that fundamentally, you know, whether you're thinking about the Bill of Rights or you're thinking about the 14th Amendment and this idea of a new birth of freedom,

the idea is this isn't a game.

Like, you and I are meant to disagree on stuff and we are meant to.

And it's good that we disagree.

It's great to disagree, but we disagree because we both actually believe in ideas and we both love this country.

Boy, how when's the last time you heard somebody like that?

It's great.

And I'm starting to find them and it's good.

And those are the people who are spitting themselves out of the system.

And like, I'm not playing the game anymore.

Just not going to do it.

And we'll be able to make progress if we can find those people in your own life.

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So, Eric Liu was the audio that I just played from last Thursday's television show on the Blaze TV.

And it's a fascinating hour.

And what he said was, there's a lot of people that are playing the games.

He said, but you and I both believe deeply in something.

And so we can meet on the battlefield of ideas.

The question is, does Kurt Eichenwald believe?

I think there are a lot of people that believe this kind of stuff on both sides.

He wrote, as one with pre-existing conditions, I hope every GOPer who voted for Trump care sees a family member get long-term condition, lose their insurance, and then die.

I want them to be tortured.

GOPers only gain empathy when they are touched by the consequences, never before.

Now, is that rhetoric or is that something that he actually believes?

I think it's something that he actually believes.

Because they've never reached out and sat down with somebody.

They've just seen the caricatures, the cartoons on TV,

you know, or in sound bites.

They don't necessarily know anyone because they live in their own little bubble.

I'll show you the consequences of this in somebody who's standing up, Lawrence Jones, standing up as a black man for his own community.

The white liberals don't like it.

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You played that great clip from Eric Liu from last week where he is saying, I think everything that every conservative wants to hear about

someone who was on the left defending Obama all those years.

Now that you're critical of Trump, well, where were you during Obama?

And he said, you know what?

You're right.

I should have been there during Obama and I wasn't.

And it's going to be an interesting thing to see play out because I don't want to downplay how difficult that is for someone like Eric Liu to do.

It's hard to admit that you were wrong.

It's hard to admit that your side was wrong.

We did under Obama.

About Bob.

And

many of the people in our audience also did.

Yeah.

And so, however, that's the easier part of it because it's going to take time to see.

And I think people rightfully should be skeptical of anyone on the left who's saying now, well, you know what?

Trump is doing the wrong thing and I was wrong for Obama because it's going to take time until you see a Democrat in office.

Yeah, because

they accused us of only saying that.

Oh, you're only saying that because your side.

Right, exactly.

Not your guy.

And we're like, no,

we are aware now.

Right.

We woke up.

And we've been critical of Trump for many of these things as well throughout.

So it's going to take time for that to actually happen the ones with real courage will stand yeah and i think by the way that's totally fair it was totally fair of the left to be skeptical of us and i during the obama administration

could have been just political lines and the same way we should be skeptical of skeptical of someone like eric luke right however like that is it's still you have to recognize how important that is as a first step to go out there and say you know what my side when they were doing these things was wrong i was all i was wrong on that that issue.

And that is, you know, being able to maintain that when your side regains power is the real test of whether you meant it or not.

So,

one of the guys who is taking a really hard stand, and it's not going to matter who's in office, is Lawrence Jones, who works for the Blaze.

And over the weekend, he went on to Fox to eviscerate Wanda Sykes

for

labeling Obamacare repeal as racist.

She said that on The View, and here is what Lawrence said over the weekend.

Well, I just think it's quite comical that the liberals are so concerned about black America when they have filled my community for years,

especially when it comes to health care, especially when it comes to jobs.

I think it's important to note, Abby, that that 30-hour rule in Obamacare affected my community harshly.

A lot of us weren't able to get jobs and couldn't get the necessary hours because of that 30-hour rule.

So I think it's really comical that the liberals are all of a sudden concerned about black America.

Now, what happened after that?

Lawrence Jones is here to tell us.

Yeah, so I got a slew of death threats.

One, and a lot of these were white progressives.

This one guy said, a white loving black person that is a traitor to his people, he deserves to be strung up.

So

a very compassionate white progressive

was advocating that for lynching.

Right.

And I finally figured out why they're doing this now because it used to be some black folks saying, you know, you're Uncle Tom.

And now those people are starting to die out because I've started to really connect with my community.

They know I'm banging the left.

I'm banging the right.

I'm consistent on my belief system.

I'm advocating for them.

You You need to be able to do that.

So now they're sending.

Yeah.

You used to be a guy who you voted for Brock Or you campaigned for Barack Obama.

Campaigned for him.

When you were

trained by the left, went to D.C., hung around Nancy Pelosi, all of them.

And I saw the light.

And I didn't go to the Republican Party.

I became a conservative libertarian.

And now I'm fighting for the issues.

I'm not concerned about political parties.

It's about the issues.

And so it's kind of comical to me to watch the left try to attack me and say, hey, you're a shill for the right.

So I supported the guy.

Why do you think they're doing it?

Because they see me connecting with my community and they have this hold on them right now where they continue to make emotional arguments that the right is racist.

And

how am I racist?

I'm fighting for you.

I'm connecting with you.

And so they seek to discredit me, say I'm a shill.

I'm a sellout.

How do you call me a sellout and you're white?

So it's just comical right now.

So what has changed

with your community?

Are they starting to,

are people in the black community starting to say,

like you did under Obama, you know, I think both political parties are full of crap.

Yeah.

I think people are starting to feel it.

The paychecks that they're receiving, the loss of health care, jobs leaving America.

I think when you have a party that makes everything about emotions and then you look at your bank statement,

when you're feeling being in poverty, I think it starts to wake you up real quick.

And so for a while, they were able to survive on President Obama because he was the first black president.

And you love the culture.

You love seeing somebody that looks like you.

But now those days are over.

So what do you have now?

Can you make things about women or

race again?

Say Donald Trump hates you when Donald Trump is advocating for a lot of black folks with his

for a new deal for black America.

He's talking about immigration, which a lot of black folks are upset that they prioritize illegal immigrants and give them jobs and

it's hurting the black community.

It's really funny because you only hear on the immigration

front, you only hear that this is about racism, that whites are racist taking the jobs, but they completely ignore the black community, which is the first to get hit by this for the lower paying jobs.

And

you don't hear anything.

Well, this is what you hear.

It's called the New Underground Railroad.

That's what the left calls this.

They call

the

border control the slave catchers.

And so if there's anything that's, I don't think there's anything more offensive to suggest that the experience of illegal immigrants that came here willingly is like slaves that were brought on a slave ship that couldn't go back to their country.

Do you hear that, though, from people that are not like you?

Oh, yes.

And I think that's when the shift started to come because I put all the left on notice.

Maxine Waters.

I mean, how can you say, the Congressional Black Caucus, how can you say you advocate for the black community and use this type of language?

It's contradicting.

But I have found so much.

contradiction over the last 40 years.

I mean,

you look at the black community and they do not vote their values.

They are in the 19, what, 50s?

Traditional.

Yeah, traditional.

They were the strongest family unit in the country.

Now we're told because

slavery broke up families, everything else.

No, that's not what did it.

You guys came together

and you made your family stronger.

The strongest family unit in the country was the black family unit.

And so what's happened?

The left has dismantled and destroyed the community.

And

I mean, I've heard the stuff, you know,

your traditional values, but you voted against those values for 40 years.

I think the right

does...

a terrible job in connecting with the community.

I think we have to take some ownership as well, going to the community, showing up.

I think because the black community has voted 90% of the design for the left,

we don't show up.

And it's just like, okay, it's just not worth it.

It's just not worth it.

I refuse to give up.

I feel like it's my mission.

I feel like it's my calling.

And if you win two or three, four people a day, I consider that a win.

There was a time where I would go on social media and I felt like my community hated me because they didn't feel like I was fighting for them.

That's starting to change.

You were an investigated

investigator for Dallas police.

You've started doing these.

I'm a private investigator.

You've started to do these

investigative pieces now in the Blaze.

You did one that's caused a lot of controversy recently

on medical marijuana.

And it is the smartest piece I think I've ever seen on medical marijuana.

It's not about

everybody else takes the pot smokers and they take the

angle of

those people who want to get high.

You actually made it about medicine.

And you have,

I mean, I will tell you,

I might even talk to the governor about it today.

My daughter has seizures and they can't make them stop.

And the head of one of the big, I don't want to stick him out, but head of one of the big

hospitals here in Texas, one of the biggest,

and he is the head guy

said,

I mean, the first thing, if you can get your hands on it, that I would try would be marijuana oil, which doesn't make you high.

You can't buy it here in Texas.

I think a lot of people are dealing with the law system.

And I was a private investigator and worked a lot with Dallas Police.

I went to the Reserve Academy.

And I respect the law, but this is medicine for some.

And when you get to see my video, you see a guy with cerebral palsy

do kickboxing with.

So what's the difference between that and

a sanctuary city?

Obey the law, enforce the law.

Well, this is medicine.

Well, this is these poor people that were escaping oppression.

I mean,

that's why I'm advocating for the state to change the law.

And you're seeing a lot of states do it.

You're seeing some cities.

Dallas just passed the ordinance where if you have below five ounces, they'll just give you a ticket.

Yeah, but it's not even that.

It's not even changed the law for pot.

It is

for medical use

is the real difference.

Right.

But my argument is that where's the line?

Yeah, a lot of veterans.

I know, I know.

You have a lot of veterans of depression, and we're seeing the veteran suicide rate drop when they use it.

It's interesting because, I mean, medical marijuana is not a controversial topic.

It's not.

The polling, most recent poll on should you be able to use marijuana for medical purposes, 94 to 5.

Of course.

I think the issue here is, and you saw this certainly in California, which is the slippery slope argument has never been more accurate.

They tried to pitch, well, you need medical marijuana.

We're going to have these dispensaries where they were.

And now it's just blatantly, obviously, legal.

You walk in there, you get your card, and you get your pot for recreational purposes.

Now, I don't personally care, honestly, about recreational purposes.

I don't either.

But

still, I can understand the argument because, you know, and I, you know, people say, well, you can have it for medical purposes.

Well, it never stays that way.

It's just a first step.

So it is an interesting debate from that perspective, but

I don't see how you don't have it legal for medical purposes.

It's going to happen.

It's going to be legal for recreational purposes.

It already is.

And how many states have it?

I was talking to a guy who's dying with cancer yesterday.

And he said, have you heard about the mother's breast milk thing going on?

I think it's in Sweden or Denmark.

And I I said, no.

And he said, a woman has had this theory for a long time that breast milk could cure cancer.

And

tried to go in and get people to do research, but because it didn't involve big pharma or big money anywhere, nobody was interested.

And finally, she got enough people to back a study.

And

it's not conclusive, but it shows at least real strong leading indications that breast milk actually

goes right to cancer and destroys a lot of the cancer.

Wow.

And,

you know,

there's a few of these.

They're still in progress, I think.

Yeah, they're still in progress.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there, but there's, we are close to things like this, and we've got to get the business side out of the way, and we have to get the FDA side out of the way, and start, especially when it comes to death, start moving these things along a little faster, perhaps.

Lawrence, thank you so much.

Lawrence Jones from The Blaze.

You can read all about it at theblaze.com.

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Stu is instantly a skeptic on the breast milk thing.

100% skeptic.

Without any information.

I'm always skeptical of the claim of.

Well, you know what?

Just no, there was no one who cared.

They didn't, all they wanted was money, these big companies.

And you know what?

This one mom decided she was going to cure cancer with paper airplanes, and no one wanted it because you can't make money off of paper airplanes.

I mean, that story is

every

hang on, hang on.

Do you believe the story that I don't believe that,

you know, car companies have kept

the flying car down or the everlasting battery or anything like that.

However, I do believe in the story of Tucker.

I mean, that's fact,

where they'll put you out of business if you try to disrupt their assembly line.

There's always competition, right?

I mean, I think, though, I think any company that saw the idea and collusion is possible, less likely today than back in the Tucker days.

Yes, I think absolutely.

It's harder to do.

I mean, with the internet and everything, everything, it's almost impossible.

Yes.

But the idea that companies, first of all, that there's not enough good people who just don't want human beings to die from cancer because they want to merge themselves.

I just don't think it's true.

But beyond that, I think they all see it.

The profit motive is a good thing.

And they do see

the benefits of curing cancer financially.

I think they actually are motivated by profit.

Thank God they are.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

But I also think that

some pharmaceutical companies will hold on some things because they got another one that needs to run its course.

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Greg Abbott last night went on Facebook and signed a new bill into law

stopping sanctuary cities.

Well, some say the problem is Texas doesn't have any real self-declared sanctuary cities.

And how dare him do this on Facebook?

What a coward or a genius.

You decide, Greg Abbott, the governor of the great state of Texas, joins us right now.

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Welcome to the program.

Governor Greg Abbott, I think the best governor in the entire United States.

Welcome, sir.

How are you?

Glenn, I'm doing great.

Great to visit with you again.

Great to have you on.

So last night, you go on Facebook and you sign a bill.

This is the first time I think anybody has ever done this on Facebook.

Why'd you choose Facebook to do this?

Why'd you do it last night?

It won't be the last time either.

Listen, this is the 21st century.

We've seen an evolution with regard to digital media, with regard to the way that elected officials are communicating directly with their constituents.

We saw it first with what Barack Obama did with digital media.

We saw what happened in the Trump campaign.

And now this is the next step.

And listen, I have more than a million viewers, and it's important that I be able to connect directly with them, unfiltered through other media.

Obviously, other media across the entire country has picked this up and spread the story, which we are proud that they did.

But you can expect going forward, there will be many more ways in which we are communicating directly with the people who are our citizens, the people that I have to answer to every single day.

I have to tell you, Governor, I'd love to spend some more time talking to you about that.

I think that is great.

I know that we are living in, everybody knows, we're living in a time now where you don't need a middleman anymore, and it will change things.

And I'd love to talk about the ramifications of that if we have more time.

But let me go to what you signed

Texas doesn't have any self-declared sanctuary city and the the Trump

administration is having a hard time defining what a sanctuary city is so what did you sign in last night well first let's talk about terminology then if you don't mind let me correct you a tiny bit.

Sure.

A synonym of a sanctuary city is an outlaw city.

It is a city or county that refuses to follow the law.

And in the state of Texas, it is my opinion that we do have a self-declared sanctuary city in Travis County.

For your listeners, Travis County is the county in which Austin, Texas is located.

And the sheriff of Travis County has a written policy that is tangible for anybody to put their hands on that says that Travis County is not going to comply with ICE detainer requests.

In fact, the Travis County policy is such that if a person who is in the United States illegally and has either committed or been accused of a very violent crime such as sexual assault, sexual assault of a minor, armed robbery, working in conspiracy with the drug cartels, any of those crimes and far more,

the sheriff of Travis County, who's responsible for upholding the law and keeping our citizens safe, is going to release them even if the federal government has a request to hold them for the federal government to come and take them.

That, I think, is the quintessential definition of a sanctuary city.

Travis County is the target and subject of this law that I signed last night.

Okay, so now what happens to Sheriff Fernandez?

What happens to...

I mean, Dallas is also a city that kind of

plays games with

sanctuary.

What happens to these counties, these cities?

The new Texas law imposes very serious penalties.

One is going to be fines that can add up to $25,000 per day.

Two is that these officials, let's say in this case, the Travis County Sheriff, can be subject to forced removal from office by the Texas Attorney General.

Three is these officials can be subject to jail time if they have sanctuary city policies or if they refuse to comply with the ICE detainer requests.

Excuse my ignorance on this, but I remember hearing this a long time ago, and it may be complete bunk, that the sheriff is the only one that actually answers directly to the people.

Police officers, police commissioners, et cetera, et cetera, don't.

But that

this is a separate office that doesn't really answer to any chain of command.

Is that true or not?

Correct in this regard, and that is police officers are not elected by the people.

Sheriffs are elected by the people.

That said, sheriffs are one of the county officials who have to work in conjunction with county governance, which in the state of Texas, the leader of county government is called the county judge.

And then there's a county commissioner's court that the sheriff must work with.

It's the county commissioner's court that sets the budget for the sheriff.

How do you respond to people who are saying

this is going to terrorize the Latino community?

Well, first, let's be clear about something, and that is that just because someone is here illegally doesn't at all mean that they are Hispanic.

Remember this, Glenn, and that is more than half of the people who have been coming across our border illegally this past year are not from Mexico.

They're coming from across the entire world.

So, that part of the thesis is wrong.

Second, is that Texas is an open and welcoming state.

In fact, even before Texas was Texas, we've been a blend of Anglo and Hispanic culture.

And as you know, my wife is the first Hispanic first lady.

And so we are very supportive and open to immigration.

People get this wrong in the terminology.

They say that laws like this are anti-immigrant.

That's absolutely not true.

We're very pro-immigration.

The only people who are subject

to being apprehended under this new law are people who are here illegally, who have committed a crime that ICE has caused them to put on their detainer list.

If you were here and you've committed no crime whatsoever, you're never even going to be subject to this because ICE will not have you on their detainer list.

So, Governor, here's one thing that I think

that I can't solve in my own head.

And I know you're a compassionate man,

and I know this has had to cross your mind.

There are those people who are here illegally who then who are good, decent people, and whatever their situation is, yada, yada, yada.

But somehow or another, a bad guy gets into their life and is abusing them, beating them, raping them, whatever.

And if they fear that they are going to be,

you know, sent back home.

and something's going to happen to them or they just don't want to be on anybody's radar because they're pretty invisible, they won't say anything about that.

And crime could go through, really horrible kinds of crime could go through the roof in those communities.

How do you solve that?

And do you believe that's true?

We solve that in this law because we put specific exceptions in this law.

If you are a victim of a crime, if you are a witness to a crime, you will not be asked about your immigration status if you report that crime.

We wanted to make sure that those people would be accepted from these provisions.

Now, they're calling this the papers please bill,

but that's not what this does.

You don't ask for papers if

somebody's on a routine stop, right?

I mean, you know.

You're absolutely correct.

Let me be very clear about this because a lot of critics misconstrue this as being the Arizona law.

And the Arizona law

that was reviewed by the United States Supreme Court, they specifically, quote, required law enforcement officers to ask about immigration status.

First, I will tell you, that part of the law was upheld by the United States Supreme Court, even the liberals on the United States Supreme Court.

The Texas law does not make that requirement.

What the Texas law does is it allows, but does not require, law enforcement to ask about immigration status.

Let me explain to you why.

And that is,

when a police officer pulls over somebody, let's say in a car,

and they do it for driving too fast, whatever the violation may be.

Let's say they walk up to the car and they look in the car, and the person in the car has tattoos on them that clearly indicates they are a member of MS-13, which by the way is growing in number in the state of Texas.

It would be right for the police officer to ask that MS-13 member, are you here in the United States legally?

And so it allows them in situations where

this person could be the subject of an an ICE detainer request, which an MS-13 gang member most likely would be, to make that inquiry.

But it simply and absolutely does not require law enforcement officers to ask about immigration status.

Anybody who says otherwise either doesn't know the law or they were misrepresenting the law.

Governor, what do you think about the progress that, and I don't want to get this into a Trump thing, about the progress

of

illegal immigration and the border wall, et cetera, et cetera, with this administration.

Without because I don't want to put you in the middle of something here.

Are we moving the way we should be or have we surrendered this?

Well,

we've had a problem for decades now with regard to the legal immigration process.

We have a completely flawed immigration system that must be fixed.

And nothing has been done in the last few administrations, and nothing has yet been done under the current administration to fix our immigration process.

Let's be clear about this.

Texas, and I think America, strongly supports a robust legal immigration system.

What must be done is we must implement reforms that overhaul our legal immigration system and couple that with strict enforcement against illegal immigration.

I said a few years ago that what President Obama was doing was sending a message all around the world, come in, we're not going to enforce our own laws.

And if I lived across the border in poverty, in a drug-ridden, if I lived in a place where I knew my kids had no future, and the President of the United States was saying, we're not going to enforce this, and if you get here, you're going to be here forever, I would absolutely take my kids across this border for the promise of America.

And I said at the time,

it's a lot of this is our fault because we're telling them we don't care about this law.

And if you are in their situation, you're going to roll the dice for a piece of this.

Is it true?

Barack Obama's approach to border security was the OLA system, such as the matador saying Olay to the bull charging at them and just let them on through.

But remember this, Glenn, and that is, why is it that so many people want to come to America as opposed to, let's say, go to Venezuela or some other place?

The reason is because the United States of America, more than any other country in the entire world, is a nation of laws.

And it is imperative that we as a people continue to ensure that America remains a nation of laws so that we will be the aspiration for people around the entire globe.

Has our immigration here in Texas, our illegal immigration, have you seen a decline in it?

There actually has been a decline over

a very meaningful decline during this calendar year where

people who are coming across the border illegally has shrunk dramatically.

In this last calendar year, before the one we're in right now, there were more or about 1,000 people crossing the border a day.

And now that has shrunk dramatically compared to where it was before.

But we'll need to see, because as most people know, the increase in cross-border activity typically increases during the May, June, and July months.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Have we moved our border agents closer to the border since Obama?

I mean, there was this huge gap for a long time.

You're exactly right.

If you're going to secure the border, the best place to secure the border is at the border.

Right.

One of the policies of the Obama administration was to remove more into the interior, the border security operations, so that people would have already crossed the border.

And it simply made no sense whatsoever.

And so, yes, one of the changes is to move border security closer to the border.

Another is to increase and enhance border security efforts.

But that is something that the state of Texas is also doing.

We are about to close out our new budget here in the coming weeks where we continue to add more money from the state of Texas to secure the border because it is important that we be a state as well as a nation of laws.

We welcome people here who want to immigrate to the United States illegally, but we want to make sure that

if there's anybody who's not following the law, the law will be enforced.

I would love to have you back.

We're running out of time.

I'd love to have you back and talk a little bit about the culture of Texas and how or if we're doing anything to protect the culture of Texas.

It's one of the only states left that has or almost, I can almost say had a unique culture.

And it's really being destroyed.

And

not intentionally or anything like that, it's just because this massive influx from people all over the world and the country who were creating jobs here and what we're doing to protect that.

But let me leave you with just this one question here.

Have we signed on now officially to the Convention of States?

Yes.

As of last week, Texas became the 11th state to sign on to the Convention of States, and Texas will be in the vanguard of leading that effort.

Now that Texas passed it, I think many more states will come behind us.

This is a common sense opportunity to return power to the people away from the entrenched forces in Washington, D.C.

I have to tell you, I think you are the best governor in the country right now.

That's pretty easy to say, but the best governor I think I have ever lived under, and uh, and we're big supporters.

Greg Gabbitt, thank you so much, sir.

Thank you, Glenn.

You bet, God bless.

Great, great leader, as you heard, very well reasoned, doesn't get into hyperbole or name-calling, he just does it.

Uh, love him.

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Good news and bad news.

The French have spoken.

And this is the good news.

Emmanuel Macron is the new president of France.

He didn't just beat Marine Le Pen.

He destroyed her.

66% to 34%.

It was the largest margin of victory since Jacques Chirac beat out her father in 2002.

Everything went really pretty much exactly as expected.

Hours before the polls opened, Macron was predicted to take a 30-point lead.

It ended up in being just slightly more than that.

Pollsters are right more often than

that is noticed, right?

I mean, a lot of times everyone likes to point out the times that they're wrong, but they're right a lot.

Now, here's why this is interesting.

This is the first time I've ever paid attention to the French president.

I mean, right?

Have you ever cared?

I mean, I don't know that I.

Jacques Chirac is the last one.

Right, because I mean,

the Le Pen election in 2002, we paid attention to what we talked about on the air back in the day.

But, you know, that's really, it's only been that movement.

Yeah, I have never, I've never really paid attention to it.

I know one of them had a model, a really hot model wife.

That's all I know.

And, you know, if our system was working right, that would be really all that the rest of the world would know about our president.

He's got a hot model wife.

Didn't really pay attention to France, paid a lot of attention to France.

This was really important.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, absolutely.

For the direction of France and the rest of the world.

Get this.

Turnout for this election,

historic low.

The lowest percentage since 1969.

Of the 47 million registered voters in France, 11.4 million chose to sit this one out.

That is more people abstaining and staying home than voted for Le Pen.

So what was the turnout percentage?

Do they have that in that article?

No, 47 million, you can do the math, 47 million, 11 million chose to sit it out.

This is the most successful election Le Pen's National Front has ever had.

They've never been more popular since 2002.

They've doubled their base of support.

He got, I think, about 18%.

Yeah,

he got 17 point or actually, yeah, 17.8%

in his election in 2002.

I mean, she's improved that over the years.

This is not just a jump from 18 to this, but 33% is still, again, losing by 30.

And as much as this is an increase, they're actually going to change the name of the party, reportedly.

Yeah.

Because they

win like this.

Right, because they're just too tied to the father.

And that's good.

I mean, that's good that everybody knows who they are.

But now they're going to try to cover up some of this stuff.

So the French people had two choices, delay the coming storm and maintain the status quo, which is probably what definitely

what I would have voted for,

or I probably would have set it out because I wouldn't have liked either candidate or given into the old world.

you know, European nationalism.

That was their choice.

They didn't have a good option.

And what they did was delay the inevitable.

The status quo is what got them to this place

in the first place.

And so they've just sealed their fate for another five years.

Now, here is what is really fascinating.

The Russians know this, I think, better than anybody else.

A couple of hours before France entered their 48-hour media blackout, before the election, a massive leak of Macron's campaign and financial dirty laundry hit the internet.

Now, why would you do it just before the media blackout?

Because you would know

that

no media is going to be able to pick this up.

So you'll only have the internet, and that could work to your advantage or disadvantage, but you'd only have the internet.

The way to really affect it would be to release it a little bit earlier, perhaps.

Perhaps.

Well, they thought that the media would fight back against it.

So they had no opposition here because of the ban.

Perhaps.

At least I think that was their theory at release.

Perhaps it was their theory.

So 48 hours before France has a media blackout.

Nobody can say anything about the election or anything.

And they release this.

Now,

it was almost a carbon copy of the DNC Podesta hack.

Investigators over in France have traced it back.

Exactly the same group, Fancy Bear, who's a surrogate for the Russian military intelligence.

Why wouldn't you hide that?

Why would you use the same people, the same DNS server?

Why?

Why would you do it so late in the game?

Perhaps, as Stu said,

it is because they wouldn't have any opposition.

But I believe it's because they knew, just like the rest of the pollsters, that there was a massive trouncing coming to Le Pen no matter what.

And

11.4 million people are probably going to sit out.

Can we lead to more people sitting out and being disenfranchised and just saying, I don't care who wins anymore?

Not to help Le Pen win.

But to add to the discontent.

Releasing the information pours gasoline on a bonfire.

The French already feel like I've got to settle for the status quo.

But now this guy's coming in.

He's facing a lame-duck five-year presidency.

The French and the global media are going to have a field day now exposing Macron and his party's dirty secrets.

You'll notice, did you hear much fanfare that the Clinton Global Initiative closed on April 15th?

Yeah, right?

Right?

Look that up.

This would be the time you'd want to turn it on, right?

Right.

Look that up.

They had problems with

donations, apparently.

Apparently, all of the big countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and everybody else, they decided that they didn't want to do any more goodwill.

Or

they decided there was no access to be purchased.

It's not shutting down.

No.

I think what you're referring to is a report that they were downsizing.

Right.

Right.

Which you'd think would be the opposite.

Would be the opposite.

You're now out of the worry about the

elections.

How can the Clinton Foundation make this move and nobody notice?

Nobody in the press is even noticing about their donations from

these countries.

That they're starting to dry up.

Kind of interesting.

If she were president, I can guarantee you WikiLeaks would be exposing all kinds of things.

And I believe the Russians will eventually expose Trump for all kinds of things as well.

Why?

What do they want?

They want public distrust and angst.

That's what they want.

If Hillary Clinton would have won, I think they would have done the same thing here.

The hacks would have kept coming because they're playing the long game.

The leftists, the Islamists, the alt-right are playing that game as well.

What do they want?

An insurrection.

They want to burn the whole thing down.

France just took a massive step toward burning the whole thing down.

And one more thought on this.

Next,

the Czech Republic.

The Czech Republic is

taking in refugees and they oppose it.

A poll a couple of years ago found that 94% of the Czech Republic favor closing the borders completely.

They're not.

They're standing by the EU.

What are the people doing?

They're starting to become anti-immigrant.

Germany is also becoming hostile to the EU.

What is happening around the world is that people feel, and see if you feel this way,

Nobody's listening to me.

Nobody is, I'm not a xenophobe.

I'm not a racist.

I'm not any of these things.

But guys, we have got to protect and know who is coming in.

I want the best and the brightest to come in.

And I also will take those from war-torn countries.

But I want to make sure, just like we would have done in Germany, I want to make sure they're not Nazis.

I want to make sure they're not actual enemies of the United States.

Nobody's listening to me about my job and my pay, and they're playing games with health care, and they've promised us one thing, and our healthcare costs as a family went through the roof, and I couldn't keep my doctor.

I don't even know what's happening.

I don't know if I'm going to be able to get insurance anymore.

And then the right does it, and the right was lying to us.

The GOP is somebody listening to me?

the answer is no far too often of far too oftentimes

nobody's listening to me I have no levers to pull there's nothing I can do to get somebody to turn around and listen to me I can't affect change I can't even control my own life

And I don't recognize this anymore.

I don't feel like I belong even to

polite society.

It was one thing when I said, you know, I don't really recognize my country.

And the left laughed.

And now the left is saying, I don't recognize my country.

And the right is laughing.

I'm not laughing.

I didn't laugh then.

I'm not laughing now.

I don't recognize my country.

But more importantly, I don't recognize the truth in anything.

I mean, they're now expecting me to believe that a man can say he's a woman.

Just say it.

I'm identifying as a woman.

And I have to accept that that a woman can identify as a black person and blacks have to accept that

I don't even recognize the truth anymore

and I know the rich are getting richer and I've never been a guy who's had a problem with rich getting rich The reason why I have a problem with rich getting rich now is because far too many times it's because they have access to banks and loans and interest rates that I could never get my hands on.

Or they have enough lobbyists to rig the game their way.

That's not fair.

And they're telling me that I can't hold sacred the things I have always held sacred.

Things about God.

things about my country.

I'm told that that has no meaning, or or if it does have meaning, it's all bad meaning.

That's how people are feeling.

And when you increase the stress

of money,

when you increase the stress of losing a job, not being able to make ends meet,

people will listen to anybody who says, I got a plan.

It's those people over there.

We just get rid of those people, whoever they are, left, right, in the middle, doesn't matter.

Atheist, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, doesn't matter.

People will round people up when they're afraid.

Thank you.

Thank God the French rejected that kind of thinking this weekend.

But unfortunately, as the press celebrates, because the press doesn't get it, it's not that they are intentionally, they just don't get it.

They don't hear you.

They don't hear Europe.

And because

they don't hear, they celebrate.

Ooh, dodged a bullet there.

Victory for us.

France isn't as racist as America.

No.

No, you really don't get it.

So here's something that's really interesting to me.

Did you guys see over the weekend the

automatic self-driving space shuttle that we have?

You know, we have one.

Drives itself.

No pilots necessary.

Yeah, I didn't know that either.

It's been up in space for two years now on a secret mission.

Like no one knows what it was doing up there for two years.

Yeah, we talked about that a little bit ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It just came out that it was coming back.

It landed by itself without a pilot.

It landed over the weekend.

Impressive.

Yeah, a little bit.

A little bit.

Kind of one of those things.

Yeah.

Where did it just come down?

Right.

No, no, no.

It landed where it's supposed to.

No, yeah, it landed in my driveway.

When I open up an app and I see Uber shuttle i will be that's when i will be impressed okay when you can get me to work faster right but is that not incredible that's if that's not an example of what the hell do they have that we don't

know i mean they put a self-driving space shuttle up

it looks just like the space shuttle except no windows or anything self-driving space shuttle up who's in there you really don't need one

right for two years

doing some sort of secret mission we have absolutely no idea and we're we're down here going, wow, look at my car can kind of drive itself.

Yeah, we got a space shuttle up that's driving itself right now and returning to Earth safely.

No people on board.

Incredible.

Absolutely incredible.

And yet, it's a blip in the news.

Nobody even recognizes the giant leaps for mankind we've made.

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I want to talk to you about the wealthiest 1%, you know, the evil wealthy 1%.

I want to talk to you about about the difference between ownership and stewardship.

I want to talk to you about a time of profound change in the world's thinking.

We begin there right now.

I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand.

Cause we have won.

I will beat my drum.

I have made my choice, we will overcome.

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I'm going through a really good phase in my life that I think anybody who

tries to stay connected to a higher power, you know, you just know when you're in sync and when you're out.

And I've been really struggling to get back into deep sync.

And

about four years ago, I thought, man, I wish I could just start all over again

because

things had started to back up on me.

And just, you know, you start with a clean slate.

It's so, it's so easy.

And I think I'm going through a place that I'm breaking through.

And I want to share this because I think there are a lot of people that are feeling the same way

I do right now.

Perhaps not.

Let me start with this.

What's the difference between ownership and stewardship?

For instance, I own my iPad because I, well, I bought it.

I paid for it.

I worked for it.

And you know what?

Man made it.

It's not a God thing.

Man made it.

All true, but in the real world, absolutely not true.

I don't own it.

it.

We didn't make this.

If it weren't for the rare earth minerals in every single chip, none of this would work.

We didn't pay anybody for that.

We didn't pay the owner of the rare earth minerals.

We didn't pay for those things.

Yeah, we paid somebody who claimed they owned those, but they didn't own them because they didn't make them.

Everything I own, my car, started out with natural elements in the ground.

My cotton shirt, picked by a man, woven by men, but it started out as a seed not made by man.

The sweater I'm wearing,

I love it.

But it didn't actually come from some fancy designer.

The wool, the fabric, was being

somebody had stewardship of that wool.

Because I don't know about you, but I can't create sheep.

When you really think about it, man has not created anything.

He has rearranged things,

but you didn't create anything.

It's why the Native American, and you don't read this story in history, why they laughed at us when we tried to buy land from them.

They would take the beads and everything else, but they would go back to the tribe and they'd laugh at us.

This white man thinks that you can own land.

You don't own land.

You're a steward of the land.

You have it for a while.

They thought they were ripping us off.

They didn't understand our

ownership ideas.

Right now, our bodies can find replacement parts and more and more.

They're going to, in my lifetime, probably in the next 10 years, People will have an artificial heart that will be grown from you.

It won't be artificial.

It'll be real.

They'll grow it in a 3D printer

and they'll be able to take it from your cells.

Not my creation, not the doctor's creation, just using the pieces and the patterns to recreate.

Go ahead, scientists.

Go ahead.

Make your man.

Form him out of dust,

but use your dust, not his stardust.

Go ahead, make a car, but use the minerals that you made, not the stuff you pulled out of the ground.

I was doing some reading a couple of weeks ago, and I started thinking about this, and I thought, boy, how ungrateful are we?

He gives us absolutely everything.

And there's still a big part of me that says, look what I did.

Look what I created.

Worse yet, he's assigned me a job and you, all of us, assigned me a job and a vision.

And then I farmed that vision out to somebody else.

He gave me work and I gave it to somebody else, not even noticing or thinking about, well, if he wanted them to do it, he could have just gone right to them instead.

Why did he go to me?

Stewardship.

Vision isn't to be reassigned.

I never thought of it this way before.

I'm kind of thinking out loud.

All I know is a couple of weeks ago I started thinking about tithing in a totally different way.

And you don't have to give it to a church.

10%.

Give 10% to charity.

But 10% is just the start.

It's not the end.

10% of tithing is supposed to come after you've given away everything else that you don't need.

So you're supposed to look at everything.

That's why some people, when they give 10%, it's like, well, yeah, the rich can give 10%.

They wouldn't even notice.

They hear that all the time.

Yeah, they'll notice.

But it's not the same as the widows might.

It's not the same as somebody who is sitting there and they're looking at all of the things that they have to pay for.

Are we going to make it with our house?

Can we make our car payment?

Trust in God.

Pay it first

and watch what happens.

That takes real faith.

I guess I'm viewing my needs and my wants in a totally different way.

I don't know.

I need some time to think.

Do I?

Because what am I doing with my think time?

Am I using my think time in some internet wormhole?

Because tithing and stewardship is not just about money.

In fact, that probably, probably is the least of it.

It's about who owns you.

Who do you serve?

And the things that you have.

For instance, if your house said

on a cornerstone right by the door,

this is the house of God.

And you really believed that you didn't own that house, that was God's house, and you were just using it.

Would you treat it differently?

Would you not do things in your house that maybe you do now?

Would you stop things that you allow for if you knew it was his and he was going to come back and go, hey, thanks for trashing the bad man.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Ah, great.

You rented it out to partiers.

Cool.

Your car, anything that you own, if you were just a steward of it.

How about your job?

If you thought your job was actually his, you walked into his office and he said, hey, Stu, I need you to sit behind the desk.

Just make the decisions the best you can.

I'll be back.

Just hold down the fort.

Would you do your job differently than you do now if you knew came from him.

I contend we all would.

And if we look at our self and our jobs, our life,

as

just being a steward, not an owner.

I'm not an owner of my time.

I'm not an owner of my life.

I'm a steward of my life that he gave me.

How would you run your business?

How would you run your schedule, your time, your children, your body?

Doesn't belong to you.

It's his.

This is where my head's been recently.

I made a list a couple of weeks ago.

If I knew

he

had lent this to me,

would it be different?

I walked in the back hallway here, the back prop cage where all the props are and everything.

I walked through this last weekend.

I was horrified and embarrassed.

And I walked by because it's just a mess.

And it's a mess because we are all running like a billion miles an hour.

But I thought to myself,

If I knew that this building was his, not mine,

and he he was going to come back and walk through it.

Would it look like that?

I think it's the Hobby Lobby thing.

When we went to Hobby Lobby, did you go with me, Stu?

No, we talked to him on the air.

You could eat off the floor of 9 million square feet.

It was unbelievable.

And it's just a change in culture.

It's a change in the way you perceive.

It's what Mr.

Hobby Lobby said.

I put under the glass on my desk, this business is his, not mine.

That changes everything.

I made a list of all the things in my life and said, if it was his, what would I be doing?

Would I be doing the same thing?

Almost none of them did I answer the same way.

In fact, I don't think any of them did I say, oh, yeah, I got this one.

Yeah, he's, he could come back and I've taken good care of this.

Uh-uh.

None of them.

Perhaps my children and my family, but that's just a perhaps.

I think

we really

get lost and we make ourselves feel good because we do some things.

I mean, I don't know if you know this as an audience because we don't really ever talk about it because we're not looking for the accolades.

But do you know that you've given between 50 and 60 million dollars over the last four or five years to Mercury One?

We've saved six, over 6,000,

6,000 people, Christians and Yazidis from the Middle East.

We're saving children from slavery.

What's happening because of you is outrageous.

No other country, no other agency, no other group.

Nobody's doing that.

You are.

We're not a church.

We're a group of people that just get together and say, that's got to change.

It's got to change.

Look at the power of stewardship.

That's coming from us just saying, I can't sit around while that is happening.

There'll be real consequences for us.

I told you two weeks ago, two members of our team lost their lives trying to rescue a mom and two children from the slavery of ISIS.

The mom and children are free.

Tonight, they're putting their head down.

Right now in the Middle East, they're getting ready to put their heads down to bed and they are safe and free because of those two men.

Those two men were sent by you

because we met and I said, let's do something.

Let's do the Nazarene Fund.

Those children have a life today.

It is a blessing to be alive at this time because there is conflict and it gives us a chance to stand up and say, no, no, no, not on my watch.

Now that's what we did, just kind of saying, huh, I want to do something.

Imagine if we did all that we could, if we really gave all of our time, our talents, our surplus.

Can you imagine what we could do?

I don't know about you, but I'm searching for a deeper meaning, and I'm not unhappy.

But I am searching for a deeper meaning and deeper connection.

My job, my life, it's not meaningless.

Neither are yours.

But perhaps we have them for a reason.

I've asked myself, what more can I do in every aspect of my life?

And the answer every single time is, oh my gosh, so much more.

Together, we've done some really great things.

And I think we're all better people for the journey, no matter where we are in that journey.

We're We're all better for the journey that we've made together over the last 10 or 15 years.

But change is in the air.

Global change is in the air.

A vision has been given.

And each of us have a responsibility to execute that vision in our own realm, in our own lives.

And the world might look at us really strangely.

Our own families or co-workers might look at us and say, you're mad.

Snozberries?

Who's ever ever heard of a Snozberry?

Do you remember how Willy Wonka answered that?

Remember?

Snosberries taste like Snosberry.

Snosberries?

Who's ever heard of a Snozberry?

We are the makers of music.

We are the dreamers of dreams.

That's how he answered it.

But do you know where that came from?

That's from a poem.

Those are the first two lines of a poem.

And this poem, we quote all the time and we don't know it.

Listen to this.

We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams.

Wandering by lone sea breakers and sitting by desolate streams.

World losers and world forsakers on whom the pale moon gleams.

Yet we are the movers and shakers of the world forever, it seems.

The term movers and shakers comes from this poem.

You can't be a mover or shaker if you don't understand that we are the music makers.

We are the dreamers of dreams.

And the world, we have to forsake it.

Each of us has been given a job, and I, for one, need to get off my fat ass and start doing it with my whole mind, heart,

strength, might,

everything.

I don't know if that means I sell my stuff and give it to charity.

I doubt I'd ever get to that point because I'm not that good of a person, I think.

But I will stop selling my time to the false gods of this world.

Hopefully.

I'm sure a lot of people are thinking, what the hell was that about?

Hopefully,

you heard what you needed to hear

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my wife timing is everything I just checked my email during the break.

Good morning.

The church has an opportunity to clean the church building this month.

We'd like to invite you and your family to clean this Saturday.

Building will be open with a good showing we might be done in little as a couple of hours.

Oh, man.

And you know who sold it?

Sent it to me?

My wife.

With just this.

The Becks will be there.

I mean, I'm not five minutes away from that

monologue I just did.

And I'm like, no, not that.

I mean, obviously, you'll like God and everything, but cleaning?

Cleaning the church?

Obviously.

Can we hire somebody to do a job?

You wanted to help, but she didn't even realize that you've already had something scheduled for weeks.

Oh, my gosh.

You're right.

I feel bad about the

central

booking radio thing that Jeff is doing.

Oh, my gosh, it's huge.

Oh, man.

I have to.

I mean, we have to.

Have to do that.

Yeah.

I can't.

I can't.

Right after that monologue.

You can't prioritize church over Jeffy's fake business thing.

But isn't that the case?

Isn't that the way it always happens?

Oh, it's you're like, oh, no, I really, no,

I'm turning over a new leaf.

What?

Not that.

Oh, well, I mean, Jeffy.

You go see Guardians of Galaxy.

Jeffy's in the middle of

seen as an 18-day mega fast thing.

Core vacations?

He's

with him.

Something to lose, baby.

I'm with.

I'm on it.

Are you really?

Yes.

Good for you.

Day two.

Right till vacations.

You know what?

I have to you

to have a chocolate cake in here and say, oh, look, I brought you chocolate cake.

Or I thought for sure Matthew would come in here with, oh, look, here's a box of Sherry's berries.

Have some.

No.

Unless he brought a box of Sherry's berries.

Unless he brought it in.

Unless he brought it in.

You are.

Your spine is a mix.

You are a tower of jello.

You are impressive.

You are impressive.

The willpower there just doesn't stop.

Back in a minute.

You're listening to the Glen Beck Program.

Mercury.

The Glen Beck Program.

Our Mercury One team is down at Victory Plaza.

That's in Dallas with our affiliate 570 KLIF.

We are very much into veterans' causes.

We have joined with Folds of Honor.

And what Folds of Honor, what the reason why it's called Folds of Honor, there are 13 Folds in the American flag.

And they, at a funeral of a vet, they fold that flag and then

hand it to the family.

And Folds of Honor wanted to kick off their campaign and raise a million dollars.

We have partnered with them to stand

to honor

the the fallen.

And what this is, we want to raise money to help the spouses and the children with educational scholarships

and the disabled servicemen and women that have fought in the war.

We've got to do a better job of taking care of our guys and our women.

If you're there local, you can attend.

It's down in Victory Plaza.

Otherwise, you can go there and stand for 13 minutes.

And they have this platform that you go up to, and they have the boots in cement.

They have the boot prints of the fallen, and you stand in their place for 13 minutes while pledges come in.

And they're asking you to pledge $13 for every 13 minutes of somebody.

So, if you have $13 you want to pledge, just pledge that $13.

You can, of course, do more if you'd like, but they'd like to raise a million dollars.

And it's a really, really

great cause.

You can go to mercury1.org slash stand for more information.

Mercury1.org slash stand, and it will go until 7 p.m.

tonight.

And we sure would like you to participate in thanks to our affiliate here in Dallas, 570K LIF.

We're hoping to raise enough money, about the same amount that Sinclair just paid for Tribune.

We're looking to raise it.

It was just $3.9 billion.

That's all we need.

If we just do that, I think this will really help the cause quite a bit.

So Sinclair bought Tribune.

This will be the largest television, you know, local affiliate network now in the country, right?

I'm pretty sure.

I don't know.

I'm pretty sure.

A lot of stations, they say the FCC,

the opposition says the FCC has...

turned a blind eye to its

to its ethics here because it's going to be a very large and powerful chain in cities all across the country.

But they bought Tribune Television.

So this is a conservative company

that they're the ones that put, what's her name on?

She's that great journalist from CBS that left.

She did her own thing.

Cheryl Atkinson.

Cheryl Atkinson.

She's already doing something with

Sinclair Broadcasting.

And they're going to go after Fox.

And I think what they're going to do is sweep up all the guys that have left Fox.

I think they're going to recreate Fox.

So they've been reporting,

claiming, or at least rumors of that going on.

Yeah, there's two groups that are

thinking about doing it.

And

one of them is Sinclair.

So

what their programming will look like, I don't know, but I do know there are a lot of Fox people that are available.

And Sinclair is, you know, very

hands-on

on their editorial opinion.

They were, all of them march, you know, lockstep with the GOP and Donald Trump.

And so I don't know how that will work with people who, you know, have their own opinions.

I mean, I know Cheryl Atkinson has her own opinion, and she doesn't seem to mind.

So we'll see.

But they're going to not go after Fox.

I think they're considering that Fox is going after itself, and so there needs to be another outlet.

It's typical that you would promote some conservative media company on a day like today.

I mean,

it's actually unbelievable.

Why is what's today?

What is today?

What's today?

Yeah, what's today?

Well, I think we're all reeling from the incredible moment that happened yesterday

when

you look at me like you.

No, I know.

I was going to say it with you.

When

MTV

did have their

genderless awards

yeah i think okay you were

on that i was absolutely on that i didn't understand now okay so wait i i want to know

because i don't have a problem this is gonna piss people off because they're gonna be what about the accomplishments of women what about the accomplishment they what they did is best actor and that means anybody So it's genderless.

I don't have a problem with that.

Who was the best actor?

Yep.

Doesn't matter.

Black, white, male, female, who's the best one?

I think that's great.

I think it's hateful

personally

to, for example, have a W

NBA.

That should be dissolved immediately.

Exactly.

And people should just compete all together.

Correct.

You can have genderless, you can have pansexual, you can have male, female, every color of the rainbow.

Wait, wait, wait.

And you can also have

males who

identify as females.

compete together

to play in the NBA.

Right.

So the best players in the WNBA get open tryouts

against the male players.

Now that's not right.

Why?

Because it's open competition.

Because male females,

their bodies are different.

Their bodies are different.

No, they're not.

What?

What?

Different?

How dare you, sir?

Well,

They are different.

Imagine me in a Moo Moo right now.

We're all developing features of women,

particularly in the Chestrel region.

Yes.

But that's really more associated with baked goods than gender.

I mean, because

the concept is understandable.

Why do these things exist?

Why does the WNBA exist?

It's everyone admitting.

Admitting that women cannot compete with men on a basketball game.

Well, what is the deal with that?

That is what they're doing.

What is the deal with the weightlifters?

Remember the first transgendered?

I'm trying to remember.

Transgender.

What's the difference between transgendered?

I'm pretending I don't know.

Right.

And transsexual.

I don't know.

But there was a story here.

I'm pretending I don't know.

The story recently, I think you're referring to was

an athlete

who was

male at one point,

had transitioned to female and was considered

against females and destroying them all

in the competition because perhaps some hate mongers would say there was a physical difference between the male and the female.

Like in muscle mass.

And muscle mass and other features that made that person dominate the sport.

But I mean, if we're going to go down this road, and it's funny because the sports leagues are actually leading this battle for genderless bathrooms and such.

They're the ones saying we're going to pull out our championships from your cities.

They're the ones saying it.

What would it be like for the NFL to allow a woman to play

in the NFL?

They say that they do, right?

They say that they do.

Sure.

Like, in theory.

In theory, they do.

Someone had

a female kicker try out, I think, one year.

Yeah, I mean, I've seen it.

No, no, no.

We had a girl play on a high school team that my son played on, or attempted to play on.

And let them compete.

And she came on the team, played for about six practices, and decided that she wanted to produce a new sport.

Imagine, I mean, how can you possibly say that they have to compete against males?

You're just, I mean, we have to even the playing field.

That's not right.

Right?

That's not right.

So we have to even the playing field.

We have to have a certain number of women playing football.

And imagine one of them get hit really hard, really hard.

How the media would react to the guy who hit her.

I mean, in the lineup.

Well, we'd have to, if we're going to even it out, then we've got to change the rules a little bit to make it even easier for them.

Oh, okay, good.

And to be honest here, at least MTV's being consistent.

Because, look, we all understand that.

I mean, you just judge it by track and field where

male times are much lower than female times.

There's a statistical measure.

You don't have to argue it.

There's no way to argue it, right?

So that's why they split them.

And you can at least understand that.

There is absolutely no reason to split men and women when it comes to acting if you don't believe in gender right if men and women female actresses actresses uh absolutely have had much better performances than male actresses what they will say is if you only give one as opposing to give one to each category you are going to say they're going to say eventually if there's a whole bunch of men or it'll never happen if a whole bunch of women do but if a whole bunch of men win three times in a row they're going to say this isn't fair they're just they're just bigots They're going, right?

Of course.

If they did three years in a row of women, they would say how enlightened they are.

And this is why perhaps trapping yourself in fake arguments about tolerance is not a good idea because you can't unravel yourself from them.

There is no way to be consistent because the points you're making aren't real.

And, you know, you're why it's like how they always talk about this with, you know, if you're if you're a liar, Jeffy, you don't understand this.

If you're a huge liar and you're constantly lying to everyone around you, it's hard to keep track of all the lies and eventually you trip off.

Right.

You can't do it.

Well,

and Jeffy will tell you this.

But when it comes to these ridiculous social justice issues,

you can't keep them consistent.

You can't do it because they're all ridiculous.

We all want to.

No, what they do is they'll say, come on, come on, we're not talking about women and men weightlifters.

Come on, you're just bringing it to the ridiculous.

That's what they say.

Yes.

When they get trapped in logic, then they say, well, that's ridiculous.

Because that's not going to happen.

That's just not going to happen.

But then you're not going to happen.

You're prioritizing.

For instance,

the cakes, you know, a baker who wants to, doesn't want to make a cake because of religion.

Well, that's just going to, you know what?

You have to go after those guys.

Otherwise, there's gonna be people who will use that excuse.

Okay.

You'll be like, no, no, they won't.

And it's easy.

If they have a record of going to church and that's their value system, I mean, it's really pretty easy to spot.

First of all, it's a cake.

You should get over it.

But it's really easy to spot.

No, you can't.

Just one is too bad.

Okay.

Transgendered bathrooms where everybody gets to go wherever they want.

And you can't say to a guy, get out of the women's bathroom.

What happens if there's a child predator there?

What if there's just a pervert that just likes to listen to women going to the bathroom?

Oh, that'll never happen.

That's a small percentage of cases.

Exactly right.

Exactly right.

And they win that every single time.

Do they?

I mean, maybe they do.

They do.

But I think the good news is, is what you're saying here.

It's wearing off.

I hope so.

I mean, that's what we're talking about.

Well, it is, right?

I mean, that's why we play comedians already confused, saying, stop, help.

I'm on your side, but you keep going farther and farther, and I can't help you anymore.

We got to do an hour of just all that stuff.

Yeah, yeah, we just have to do an hour of all of the stuff that we have found in the media because it's starting to show they're overplaying their hand.

The media, the media should not be turning on them, the media should not be making fun of it or

joking about any of this stuff.

This is all way too serious.

You get in trouble if you joke about it.

The media and the comedians, the culture is changing and it's coming back the other direction, which

may have taken longer.

Think about this.

In the 1990s, late 1990s, Ellen had the first gay relationship on TV and it set

the world on fire.

And then it went to Will and Grace.

And everybody saw, no, it just has to be funny.

It's not about the relationship.

It was just don't jam it down our throat.

And so then it was okay.

Now it's everywhere.

You would watching TV, you would think that the gay population is 85% in this country.

You just would.

I mean,

you can't have any show.

You cannot have any show with

one gay character and one questioning character.

But maybe that's just me.

And look at where we've gone.

We don't have a problem with that.

We don't have a problem with that.

We're being asked to say

the twigs and berries don't count.

The chromosomes don't count.

They get deleted out of science shows when they mention chromosomes.

That's what happened with the Bill Nye show.

Yeah, they've edited it out.

That's what people have a problem with, and they're overplaying their hand.

Thanks, I think, to media.

It's speeding this process up.

Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program.

Hello, America.

Glad you're here.

It is Monday.

I hope you feel rested and refreshed.

We have a good week stacking up in front of us.

What are the big highlights?

Any big highlights we have to watch?

I know we have to watch North Korea this week.

Probably a lot more important than that would be you going to watch Guardians of the Galaxy 2 tonight.

Yes.

I'm very interested to hear your review.

Have you gone yet?

I have not.

I like the first one a lot, and I don't like superhero movies.

You hate these kinds of movies.

I've never heard you like a movie like this.

Yeah, very rarely.

Yeah.

And everybody I talked to said better than the first.

I don't like hearing that because my expectations go up.

Have you seen it yet, Jeffy?

It's not.

No, I have not.

I enjoyed that first one, too, very much.

I've heard it's the worst movie ever made.

Thank you.

Oh my gosh.

This is terrible Glenn.

Thank you.

Oh, I'm going to go anyway.

You're going to go anywhere.

I'm going to go anyway.

But wait a minute, it's not even the same character.

You can see the cameras and the shots.

Oh, my God.

That's insane.

That's crazy.

Okay, well, I'm going to go anyway, and I'll review it tomorrow.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Mercury.