4/6/17 - Global war has begun? Bruce Feiler on 'Adam, Eve and Us'

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Welcome to the program.

We are so glad that you're here.

We want to talk to you a little bit about Syria.

Yesterday,

I about blew a gasket with this

bull crap that Donald Trump is now responsible somehow for Syria and the chemical weapons.

I'd just like to take you back down the Samantha Power

rose-covered lane.

Do you remember her?

Cass Sunstein's wife, the architect of Egypt and Libya, and our entire Middle East strategy.

Yeah, we're going to go over that here in a second.

Also, possible war with North Korea, a big shake-up yesterday in the White House with Steve Bannon, and the latest on Bill O'Reilly.

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Hey, who's in for war?

Who's all excited to go to war with North Korea or Syria?

Or both.

Or both.

Wouldn't that be great?

That is

looking more and more likely.

Yes, it is.

First of all, if we could go down memory lane a little bit with the Obama administration, Samantha Power, who is Cass Sunstein's wife,

and she was the architect of this whole Middle Eastern policy.

She was the architect for Obama with the Middle East and Israel,

the Arab Spring.

She was all on board with that.

She also was the architect on let's get rid of Assad because Assad's just a really bad guy.

So if we could have an Arab Spring in Syria, it'll work out really well.

And then it was the Obama administration that also said, oh, yeah, and we're getting rid of all of the chemical weapons.

We're going to get rid of all of them.

Let me just take you down memory lane.

We're getting the chemical weapons out of Syria.

Well, Chris, all you have to do is look at the fact that today, the final 8% of chemical weapons were taken out of Syria.

We should commend the administration for the result that they got.

The removal of chemical weapons out of Syria is a substantial accomplishment.

We certainly worked with them in Syria to bring all the chemical weapons out of Syria.

We struck a deal where we got 100% of the chemical weapons out.

100% of the declared chemical weapons out of Syria.

We kept chemical weapons or got chemical weapons out of the area.

We got, as you know, last year, all the chemical weapons out of Syria.

As you know.

No small feat.

Syria eliminating its chemical weapons and ultimately having them destroyed by the international community.

Syria would still have a declared chemical weapons stockpile.

Right now they don't.

Right now Bashar al-Assad does not have a declared chemical weapons stockpile.

We removed that declared chemical weapons stockpile and we destroyed that declared chemical weapons stockpile, which means that Bashar al-Assad can't use those chemical weapons against his own people.

Except he just did.

That's the only problem with that.

Washington Free Beacon with that, putting that together, it's great.

By the way, Washington Free Beacon is very good.

By the way,

the reason why the White House went on that, hey, there's no more chemical weapons press junket, is because this is the country he drew the line in the sand.

And he said, there's a red line, and you don't cross that red line.

And then they cross that red line, and we did nothing.

Well, we drew another red line, Glad.

And if they cross that one, we'll draw a third red line.

And then

if they cross that line, we'll draw another one.

So, so as many as it takes, the plan is to draw more red lines when they cross the previous red lines current plan right now, okay, and get them to remove all the chemical weapons.

So, here's the thing: the reason why I'm bringing this up is I don't really care whose fault it is, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter to my children, or your children, or the children in Syria whose fault it is.

But I will tell you: the revisionist history does matter

I'm not looking to place blame because it doesn't matter it's what we're dealing with today but the revisionist history has got to stop this is not Donald Trump I'm not a fan of Donald Trump I don't know if you've caught that this is not Donald Trump's fault my gosh he just got into office right this is the fault of the past administration saying we draw a a bright red line and then doing nothing about it and then lying about the chemical weapons.

Period.

That's what it is.

Oh, and by the way, I could also throw a bone to the media for covering for them, for not holding the president's feet to the fire.

You would have never done that.

Where are the investigations going to go?

Where are we going to hear from the meeting?

When are we going to hear from the media and the left about chemical weapons in Syria?

Because the exact opposite happened.

We went to war because of chemical weapons in Iraq, and there were no chemical weapons.

Uh-huh.

How about this one?

The administration said there were no chemical weapons.

We got rid of them all.

And you all carried water for them.

We got rid of them all.

And we got to pat ourselves on the back.

And you did the patting.

And now people died.

Bush lied, people died.

Obama lied, people died.

Are we going to hear that?

No.

Why?

Because the media has no intellectual honesty.

And don't pat yourself on the back, people on the right, because quite honestly, the right has no intellectual honesty either.

It's the same story,

different side.

Now, what are we going to do about it?

Right now, they're deciding what we're going to do about it.

And higher on that scale is North Korea.

President, is it G?

Is that how you say his name?

G.

G.

I like to call him President XI.

I like to call him 11, President 11,

from China is meeting in the White House today.

And

this is their number one priority to talk about what's going to happen with North Korea.

I am not one to say, hey, we should just sit around and see what happens with a guy who's crazy and has nuclear missiles.

He now has solid fuel boosters.

So we can no longer tell when they're fueling up for a missile.

It's solid fuel.

The door opens and it's launched.

Now, I don't think he can make it to the United States, but he might.

He could at least make it to Hawaii, I know, but why would an Asian nation ever attack Hawaii?

Ever attack Hawaii?

Why would they really ridiculous?

It's just a beautiful makeup.

It's not like a world war would ever really just start.

Paradise.

You'd never

have to be paradise.

If you want to get everybody, you make everybody safe.

Let's put like a bunch of our resources in one harbor there.

Like all the ships we have in the Pacific, put them in Hawaii.

All there where they're never going to attack.

Right.

And everything will be fine.

Right.

So they could at least hit Hawaii.

They could hit Japan.

They could hit North Korea or South Korea.

And that starts a global war.

Now, what are we going to do about it?

I had a briefing from a guy who just left the CIA, I don't know, about six months ago.

And

he tried to convince me that things were far worse in the world than even I think.

And he's a fan of the show.

And I'm like, No, I don't think.

And he's like, no, I listen to you, Glenn.

It's much worse than you think it is.

He's like, that's wow.

That's happy.

That's good.

That's That's

good.

And he said,

I brought up North Korea and I said, what do we do?

And he said, we're out of options.

We're completely out of options.

He said, the problem is, is

this guy is truly crazy.

Yeah, that's what that defector just said.

Right.

He's like.

It's not like, you know, oh, Osama bin Laden, he's crazy.

No, he wasn't crazy.

He was very, very smart and thought, well thought out.

We just disagreed with him.

He was just on the dark side, if you will um this guy is crazy uh he believes that he can actually win a war against the united states of america and he will launch and he said so that leaves us with what option he said we can't negotiate anymore there's no negotiation He said, there's nobody that we can reach out to because he kills everybody who disagrees with him.

I've been saying preemptive strike for a while.

And

maybe maybe that's what you have to do.

I don't know.

You can't allow the guy to just continue to threaten us and just.

Do we not have a Patriot missile system that we could put for a...

I mean, you know, I know rockets, you know, ICBMs,

you know, you don't want to miss.

I don't know that we have anything in place on the mainland, do we?

But I don't think we should put one on there.

Don't we have something to do with

Israel, but I don't know if we...

Don't we have something

in South Korea?

Don't we have have something that we can put on a ship that can intercept a missile?

I mean,

I don't want to do a first strike.

I just don't want to do a first strike.

I don't, quite honestly, congratulations.

I don't want to put this president in charge of war.

I know, that's hard.

I don't want him in charge of war.

If it comes, it comes.

Let's not

hasten anything.

We saw this in the documentary, Superman for the Quest for Peace, where we do obviously have at least that one weapon,

Superman, to stop any nuclear law.

I mean, if he doesn't show up at the right time.

Could you write this down?

For example, there's this reporter that they're never in the same place at the same time.

And if he's in the middle of a story, can we get Superman to stop these missiles?

We don't know.

Could I

has Bannon addressed that?

No.

Could we just do the, do me a favor, write this down for a meeting today?

I think you guys misunderstand the difference between

well,

just put define documentary and I'll remember that.

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May I suggest that

we we all take a deep breath and we all

stop playing politics for a little bit and we all look at how fast this world can change.

We are

the scariest State Department statement I've seen possibly in my life, maybe perhaps since Reagan and the Cold War, was issued yesterday or the day before, which was the two-line State Department warning of North Korea.

We have said everything that the United States has to say.

There is no more to talk about.

Okay, what the hell does that mean?

Yeah, that's your State Department.

That's sobering.

That is,

that's their job to talk.

And when they say there's no more to discuss,

all options are on the table, right?

Right.

But the State Department is,

what the State Department is saying is all options are on the table, and that means military.

Oh, yeah.

And the other line of there's nothing else to discuss means

we've handed this over to the military now.

We've done enough talking.

Yes.

Talking is not going to solve it.

It's not going to solve that.

That's certainly how people are taking it.

And it's true.

I think that's true.

He's too nuts.

What are you going to, you're going to talk to a madman?

Are you sincerely for a first strike?

I, you know, I'm certainly willing to consider it.

I'm certainly.

I do not want to.

No more.

I don't want it to.

No more war.

No more.

Yeah, but

sometimes it's out of our hands.

Yes, of course.

And look, I think he is legitimately that crazy.

I do, too.

And I, you know,

he's killed his brothers.

He's killed his uncle.

Yeah, but first strike, you never, I mean, America becomes, I mean, it's just more of the same.

Then we go through, you know.

Oh, and you got China?

I mean, China could be sucked into that?

Right.

We have another decade of everybody saying bad things about America and that we're the warmongers i mean i don't think he might but i don't think he can get to the united states i would hope that we have the mainland i don't think they can hit the mainland no um i i would hope that they have some sort of missile defense over there that we do that would be able to take something out so they can't nuke japan or south korea but

But they might.

Well, you see,

I just don't want to.

I don't want first strike.

I don't want first strike.

I don't want to accelerate this at all.

Leader 11 is in town right now.

So, I mean, maybe that's what they're, I mean, they're definitely.

Hopefully, yeah, I mean,

let's take care of this.

It's on you.

Well, that's what Trump keeps saying.

Trump is saying, if China doesn't take care of this, we're going to have to.

And he's right about that.

If China doesn't take care of it, we're going to have to.

And this is an issue that's larger than this because the Syria thing goes on as well, where they just

the other day

said, hey, you know what?

Whether Assad stays stays long term, that's kind of up to the Syrian people.

And so many people say that as, well, okay, well, now we have a different stance on Syria.

We are no longer involved, or at least it's not a priority of ours to remove Assad.

Which then, after the chemical weapons attack, they've said kind of the exact opposite.

They've all come out, and you know, Trump said yesterday, you know, I've seen this and it's changed my mind.

I've seen these pictures, it's changed my mind.

Okay, but wait, hold it just a second.

By going in and attacking Syria,

you are attacking Russia.

You stand a very good chance of engaging Russia.

We are on the eve

of global war.

If we're not careful.

Right.

Between Syria, which is the same.

Fortunately, we've got a level-headed man in the executive office.

I mean, look.

That's the good thing right now.

Well, I mean, look at the bright side.

Would it have been any better with Hillary Clinton?

No.

It'd be worse with her.

No, it would have been predictable with her, though.

Yeah.

The issue with,

you know, because we've talked so much about what Trump believes and what he doesn't believe, and he's always, you know, we've talked about how changing his mind and all these things.

The defining characteristic of Donald Trump more than anything else in all these conversations is he's just a very emotional man.

He is a very emotional dude.

Well, he's a card puncher.

I believe that there's enough people around him that will say, Mr.

President, now, if he's so emotional that they can't stop him that's one thing but i mean i i just you know i believe he's a uh

he's he's at least a sober man

that somebody can slap him across the face and say mr president we cannot make this move emotionally well mcmaster being in there and bannon not being on the security council is a great sign i mean there's some good signs yes the problem the problem is is that you know global war, giant war, changes everything.

And as we saw, it matters who you have in the Oval Office.

With George W.

Bush, we got the Patriot Act.

You know, you go to war.

We go to serious war.

Every time we've gone to war throughout our history,

you've had rights suspended, especially on the press and everything else.

You could change the internet.

Did you see what happened in Germany with Google's yesterday?

No.

There's a new $50 million

fine

for

fake news.

Germans have voted yesterday, the German parliament voted yesterday to impose a $50 million fine on companies like Google if they engage in fake news, if they don't stop it or something like that.

That's really bad.

Really bad.

Because what they'll do is they'll just shut down everything.

They'll just, if they're responsible for it, they'll just start closing down those valves.

Well, who's to decide what fake news is?

Especially in this,

was Benghazi fake news?

Yeah, and is

climate change skepticism fake news?

Right.

What is fake news?

What is fake news?

According to a lot of our leaders, it is.

It sure is.

It sure is.

We are on the eve of the entire world changing.

and

damn it, constitutionalists.

Wake up to your principles.

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888-727-BECK, I would really like you to get on the phone right now and tell us what do you think we should do about North Korea and Syria.

Do you wait and just see what happens?

Do you negotiate continually?

Do we go

preemptive strike?

What do you do?

Tell me where you stand.

What do you want to do?

Well,

I don't know.

I mean, I don't want to do a preemptive strike.

I just think that might be the most prudent step at this point.

I don't want to wait until they're firing off nukes at South Korea, Japan, Hawaii.

I don't want to wait and see if he'll do it because we just had that defector that said, oh, he'll do it.

Oh, he's going to do it.

But we always have, there's always defectors from these places that say that.

They said the same thing.

A lot of times they're right.

But a lot of times they say Iraq has mass quantities of

plans of mass destruction.

And we got that from a defector too.

Here's what just going through.

And intelligence is

every intelligence.

A lot of that intelligence came from defectors.

And believe me, I actually totally buy the North Korea thing.

I think he is the one leader on earth who's actually that guy.

Even Iran, I don't believe, necessarily would do it.

They believe in a religious fervor that might eventually get there.

He's a different guy.

I believe

ISIS believes

in crazy things, and they are trying to bring the end of the world to wash the world in blood, to bring the 12th Imam.

I do believe that ISIS is religiously out of their mind and committed to it.

I also believe that Kim Jong-un

is out of his mind, just bat crazy.

However, Pat,

where was the shot heard around the world?

What one was that?

Concord.

Concord, right?

And it was Concord.

You'll be better on this than I am.

Wasn't it Concord where the

town met

and they met in the church and it was the minister who said,

The British are coming.

Everybody grab your guns, and we're going out on the field.

And if they cross this bridge,

we're not going to allow them to get to the.

I think, if I remember right, the British were marching to confiscate all the guns.

Confiscate guns.

Yes.

So they said, we're not going to let them do that.

But do you remember what the minister said?

Not specifically, no.

God will not be on our side if we fire first.

You are not to fire first.

If they fire upon us,

go ahead, but we are not to fire first.

And they waited.

And I have that same feeling that if we are the first to fire in this, it's not going to go well.

It's not going to go well.

There's a slight difference in that that was a musket bullet, and we're talking about a nuclear weapon that'll kill a heck of a lot more people.

But

I understand your point.

I do.

And usually all through the Bible,

the Lord doesn't favor for a strike.

No.

And I just don't think that we're in the position to...

We don't have any credibility in the world.

We are on everybody's enemies list.

We have a president who is viewed by the rest of the world as crazy or a hothead or unstable or whatever.

And this one could go into global war.

I mean, in Syria, we go into Syria and we strike Syria and

Russia sends up their planes.

Do we engage or do we have Russians turn us around?

And if Russians are turning us around, are we not then in a Cold War with them?

I mean, what do we do?

I'm for staying out of Syria.

I am too much.

I don't want to say that.

I'm clearly

staying out of Syria.

I don't want to get into that.

I think the most valid question here when you think about these issues is what's new on Netflix?

Because if you can get in that world, none of this even happens until the EMP goes off.

Let me go to John in Florida.

Hello, John.

Hey, so, you know, Kim John, whatever his name is now, is probably three walls short of a house.

So he is crazy beyond crazy.

But if you're going to deal with him militarily, you're going to have to make sure you hit every single missile installation he has.

And not only that, you're going to have to take him out as well, which crosses a whole new diplomatic line, which serious issues there worldwide.

And not only that, you have to deal with China.

And right now, China's in the position where they love this.

They love the fact that he ties up our resources, ties up our time, ties up all our money.

If you did something like a military strike, I've heard people say, well, you know, possibly our economies are so tied China might be able to deal with us.

If you think China would not in a second turn its economy upside down to collapse us, you're crazy.

All you have to do is look back in the 60s and the Cultural Revolution.

China is all about China and not about the individual.

It's been that way since the Qin dynasty to the Communist Dynasty.

It's different now because

it's different now because China's become their own market now.

China has developed with this hybrid capitalism, communism thing they're doing.

They've developed their own market, so they don't necessarily need the rest of the world as much as they once did.

They've got 700 million people who can now buy products.

Russia and China

are also

gobbling up gold in the last few weeks.

And they're getting ready to dump the dollar.

And Bitcoin as well.

Yeah, this is this is how's Bitcoin doing

it's been going up like crazy over the past couple months largely because of high purchase levels from China really

yeah I'm I'm I'm telling you this is something I said maybe 15 years ago I don't believe these people who say China you know needs us all they'll never do anything I said at some point China is going to say you know what cut your losses

this is worth it cut your losses um and and the whole world changes remember in 1913, America was still kind of an outpost.

We were not a world leader by any stretch of the imagination.

By 1919,

we literally controlled the world.

Without anybody knowing it, we controlled the world because we controlled the world's financing.

We had all of the world's gold here in Fort Knox.

We don't have that anymore.

All we have is a military.

But nobody seems to ask, how did

the government that had a navy

that could patrol a country so large that literally the sun never set

on their empire,

that requires an enormous navy.

How is it that that navy that controlled the world and policed the world in 1919

in 20 years was begging us for ships.

Woodrow Wilson.

Right.

Because

exactly right.

Because

we

said to the world's most powerful military,

you know what?

You don't control it anymore because we have all the resources.

We have all the money.

So we think you're actually the problem.

Yeah, Germany causes a lot of problem too.

and we've already destroyed them.

So now it's your turn.

Sink half of your navy.

If you don't think that we're in that position where the world is about to tell us exactly what to do, you're fooling yourself.

The world has changed under your feet, and it's about to officially change for everybody to see.

And war is the fastest way to it.

Real quick, Len, as we were getting updates, Devin Nunez will temporarily step aside from an investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Probe will be taken over by Michael Conaway, Trey Gowdy, and Tom Rooney.

So, I mean, that's been quite a

topic of conversation over the past few weeks, and now he is stepping down, at least temporarily, is the report from Politico.

What do you think of that?

Well, I mean, I think honestly, like, he, and part of this, he's admitted that he hasn't handled these steps particularly well.

Why did the Trump administration, why did the people in the Trump administration invite him over, brief him, give him all the stuff, and then have him go brief the president, not them?

I don't understand that.

There's just something weird about that.

Very strange.

Very strange.

And, you know, they certainly, I don't think Nunez handled it well, but he was very much hung out to dry a lot, I think, on this.

And

he really had nowhere else to go.

And

the speculation is that there's just

a lot of people in the White House who do things in ways that no one has ever done them.

And that's part of the reason they got elected, but also part of the reason for all these problems.

I mean, a lot of this is just inexperience, it seems like.

People don't know what they're supposed to do.

They try to do things outside of the, they're constantly praising themselves for going outside the system.

And then when the system breaks and everyone panics, I mean,

this is why you're having so much turmoil and changes right now.

There's a couple of big things that are happening at the White House that we need to

talk to you about.

Something that we worried about and quite honestly predicted that would happen.

It's happening now.

You need to be aware of it because I think profound changes are coming as a result of it.

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hey guys uh quickly I was gonna tell you Jeff is my favorite because when I was as immature as he is I got picked on too so be careful when he grows up he's gonna kick your butts oh wow okay well he's already like 75 so

he witnessed the civil war I don't think there's gonna be any more growing ups

yes but not growing up thank you Bruce

But

at any rate, retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel saw combat in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

And you're going to hate this, too.

But the parallels are eerie.

Remember what Reagan did in Libya.

Not only are they eerie, they're even stronger than they've ever been before.

Two Aardvarks dropping thousand pounders in Libya quieted down the Middle East for many years

before

this got kicked up again.

That's true.

Well, but there is one difference.

Muamar Gaddafi was a survivalist.

He was not a crazy man.

I

completely disagree.

Look what he did to his own people.

The parallels are not only parallels, but they are sharper than they've ever been before.

This guy is even more crazy.

This guy is even easier to take out.

A couple of well-placed 500-pounders, you don't need to take out their army.

You don't need to take their Air air force, you take out their leadership, and it's over, and it's quiet there again for a long time.

Okay, thank you very much, Bruce.

I appreciate it.

Um, let me go to Dave in New York.

Hello, Dave.

Hello, hi, hello, yes, go ahead.

Wow, I'm very nervous, so I'll bear with me.

But this whole thing in Syria, it really bothers me that the fact that there's so many, like the John McCain's, the Lindsey Grahams, they're

crying out for a strike immediately when

if we take out Assad, not only will it turn Syria into Iraq 2.0,

Russia's already there.

They have an air base.

They have a no-fly.

Like, their airplanes are...

Their airplanes were flying with the Syrian planes when they dropped these bombs I've seen.

Now,

did the Syrian planes fly and drop a bomb?

Yes, I won't argue with that.

But what did they bomb?

They bombed a warehouse, a depot, an ISIS-held depot.

Why?

Assad is winning the war.

Damascus or Aleppo is his again.

Damascus is his again.

Why in the world, and why would Russia,

right?

The Russian army is fighting this for Assad.

Why would Russia allow Assad?

I think this was a horrible accident.

I think the chemical weapons were in the depot, and I think they bombed them not knowing there were chemical weapons there.

There are reports that ISIS has chemical weapons.

And you'll also remember in 2014, or 2015, I think it was, Kerry said that, and the U.N.

confirmed it, that Assad, all of Assad's chemical weapons were removed.

Well, I will tell you this.

If you throw John Kerry and the United Nations in for credibility, I got Assad.

And this is the Russian line, by the way.

This is exactly what the Russians are saying happened.

I'm not saying that Dave is a Russian agent or anything, but I mean, this is what they are saying.

They're saying they bombed the warehouse and the chemical weapons.

They were trying to say it it was that

it was ISIS.

Well, that's impossible because we removed 100% of their chemical weapons.

No, they're saying ISIS is making the chemical weapons.

Yeah, so they're saying Assad had nothing to do with it.

That does not seem to be the belief of the intelligence community.

I don't happen to buy into that, but I'm with you on this, Dave.

And I don't want to get in.

I'm not going to get Syria.

I don't want to get involved in Syria at all.

I don't want anything to do with that.

At all.

All right, Dave, thanks for your call.

I guess there's no comment on that one.

Let me go to, just so you guys know,

Andrew in Oregon, Infowars and Ron Paul are saying it was a false flag.

So we should be all set.

Okay, good.

Andrew.

Hey, I'm not really worried about

North Korea at all, just because I was in the military.

I was in a Navy station in Hawaii on an Aegis destroyer.

We have the capability of knocking down anything that they send at us.

They don't have enough to overwhelm our systems.

I'm more worried about if they do shoot something at us and we retaliate, that that's going to end up taking China off and they're going to strike back at us and we're going to get then a big war with China.

That's my biggest

worry on that.

This meeting with President Xi XI, which I like to call him President 11, from China today at the White House is

critically important.

Critically important.

We are technologically advanced.

I can't imagine that we couldn't stop.

They have eight nuclear weapons, eight.

I can't believe that we couldn't stop those from launch.

Let's not strike first.

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It is now illegal in Russia to share an image of Vladimir Putin as a gay clown.

I mean,

okay, okay.

How long?

I mean, we've been fighting for that for 20 years.

You're saying this is the most important thing that can happen in this world today, and they finally have done it.

It's amazing how freedom of speech is being chipped away at.

And one way or another, there's fines that are now being levied.

A $50 million fine in Germany for companies like Google if they're engaging in fake news.

Well, how do we define fake news?

What are the ramifications of that?

And here in our own country, witch hunts.

I want to talk to you about Bill O'Reilly right now.

I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand,

cause we have won.

I will beat my drum,

I have made my choice, we will overcome,

cause we are one.

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Somebody that I have known for years and has and have really grown to really truly respect is being raked over the coals in the press right now.

People are trying to destroy him by getting his advertisers to run for the Hills.

Guess who's involved in this, Stu?

I don't know.

Color of Change.

Oh, the same

Jones organization.

Yeah, how do we know about Color of Change?

They were out in front of trying to lead a boycott against you back in the day.

And how did that boycott work?

Well,

they tried to intimidate with, you know, their 14 social media followers would continually tweet call and and intimidate companies companies not wanting to deal with it would would just make move their

advertising from our show onto another show and still pay the same exact amount and there wouldn't affect the business at all but that really that really was the

that was the worst of the worst and there was very little of of that that actually went on yeah a lot of it was yeah that was that was the most extreme part most of it was say people advertisers that never advertised on the program, they would try to make announcements that

they had dropped our show when they were never on the show.

For instance, can you think of a cheese company?

I can think of a cheese company.

I can think of a cheese company.

Would you like to talk about that cheese company?

I can if you want me to talk about that cheese company.

That's fine.

I just know that Stu has harbored some very deep feelings about

a particular cheese company that never advertised on our show.

Yeah, because I could actually,

and these things are weird because companies don't want to be involved in controversies, even if they don't believe the controversy is real, even if they don't, they just don't want to deal with it.

They make cheese, for example.

So I understand sometimes these companies will be like, just don't put money on that show right now.

I don't want to be in the news.

I get that.

To make public statements in which you are...

oh, we cannot be associated with hate or with that type of stuff, which they were doing to us.

And there's, you know, many companies are doing the same thing today.

That's just infuriating, especially when they know it's not true.

Now, you know, these

it's

taking a step back.

But

you didn't know that it wasn't true.

Some people still think that I am the reason for all of the hate in the country.

You seem to be leading that brigade lately, but

no, I know.

So, anyway,

when I worked at Fox News, when I worked at Fox News, this is what the left did to me.

They tried really hard.

It actually didn't work.

Unfortunately, Fox News

tried to make the case after I left that it did.

And that's going to come and bite them in the ass now.

But it actually didn't work.

When I was there, and I've said this many times, Bill O'Reilly was the

most honest, fair,

most intelligent, and intellectually curious

guy in the media I have ever met.

I don't agree with everything that Bill O'Reilly says.

I don't agree with some of his stances.

He always seems to be behind because he's not willing to predict or project.

He's willing to look at what's a fact today.

That's what I mean.

We've had this argument.

I'm like, Bill, come on, man.

Look, here's history.

Here are the facts.

Where do you think then?

He's like, that's not my job, Glenn.

So I don't necessarily agree with him on things.

And quite honestly, I remember the first time I met him and I was on his show.

I was just starting Fox.

And, you know, he has quite the reputation of being a bulldog.

And he is a, I think he's 6'5 or 6'6.

And he's at this little teeny desk.

Those studios, studios and television look a lot bigger.

Objects in the mirror appear to be bigger than they are, or small, bigger than they are.

They are really small.

And you are in Bill O'Reilly's face sitting at that table.

And I remember they were counting him down, five, four.

And I reached over and I grabbed his hand and I said, please don't kill me.

And because who knows, you don't go into a room with Bill O'Reilly knowing.

And

we became friends, but we became friends because we were were both intellectually honest with each other.

When we were flying on a plane, and he probably, you know, well, no, I think he'd be fine with this.

Oh, boy.

These stories always work out well.

I don't see why they would have any problem with this.

I said to Bill, this is a private story that I was told in confidence, but let me just say it right now in the air.

So we were on a plane, and I said, Bill, thank you for being,

thank you for being so kind to me.

There's no reason you need to be kind to me.

And he looked at me and he said, stop it.

And I said, what?

And he said, Glenn,

you're jet fuel.

You're hot right now.

That helps me.

It helps by having you on the show, it helps me,

you know, continue to expand and

boost my ratings and expand my audience.

Thanks for interesting.

Yeah.

And he said,

right.

And he said, and it's compelling.

It's good stuff.

I'm not doing you any favor.

And I thought, because I knew that to be true, but I didn't think

anyone would ever admit that.

That's the kind of guy I know in Bill O'Reilly.

I know he is intellectually honest and so buttoned up.

Tough, but fair.

Yeah, he does not, he gets a reputation of being tough because if you're not cutting it, he is.

He's writing every word he says.

He's doing all the hard lifting on his own show.

It's almost like when you talk to him, you're in a zone where there's not spin occurring.

So he's doing all the hard work himself that he's supposed to do.

If

you're not bringing your full game, he is not a fan of yours.

And we've spent a lot of time with him.

We went on tour with him several times.

We toured the country with him.

Bill O'Reilly

never gave any indication that there's any of this kind of behavior.

Never.

not only did we not smell smoke we never saw smoke

and quite honestly when you're out with somebody as famous as bill o'reilly you watch you want to see their character bill o'reilly was always professional we talked about this yesterday in a meeting with everybody we have a large team we did our tours when bill and i went out it was my company that produced those tours so it was everybody from the people that took him to the airport to the people that took him home to the people that that tucked him into bed at night, it was all my people.

Not one person said anything about Bill O'Reilly other than that guy's a professional.

To be clear, none of our people tucked him into bed at night.

Okay,

that was probably a poor choice of words there.

But we were with him.

Somebody from my staff was with him the entire time.

And no one said anything but, wow, he's buttoned up.

And we've seen that you hang out with, you know, you go on, you're doing business with a lot of different people.

I mean, think of one recent example that we've all dredged through of one particular person on a bus with Billy Bush

and that sort of

commentary that

carrying around kind of

blue humor.

We never saw anything.

Not even jokes.

Not even passing comments.

Nothing like that at all, which is.

You'll notice that I never said anything in defense of

Roger Ailes.

I never made this statement about Roger Ailes because, A, I never saw it, but it did not surprise me.

Let's just put it that way.

Because there was enough joking and conversations that I thought,

that one kind of made me a little uncomfortable.

It did not surprise me.

Bill O'Reilly, I will be shocked, of course, disappointed, but shocked if he was engaged in any of the kind of monstrous stuff that he is being accused of.

I know what it's like to be attacked, and I am not doing this as a favor to him.

I am not doing this because I'm a friend of his.

I believe

he's a good man who's being attacked.

I could be wrong,

but never an indication.

from us.

Settling a lawsuit is not an admission of guilt.

Let's make that one really clear.

Because you settle a lawsuit, for instance, I can tell you I was in a lawsuit recently.

How hard did I fight not to settle that, Stu?

Very hard.

Yeah.

And when you were annoying everybody around you.

And who was I fighting against?

Your own companies and people that were associated with you, because they all wanted to get out of it.

I have several contracts with several big companies and they're like, just settle the damn thing.

Make it go away.

The main argument came from the insurance company.

Just settle it.

Just settle it.

We can settle it for a fraction of the cost, but it's wrong.

Just settle it.

So, because you settle does not make, is not an emission of

guilt.

It's usually a way to

just

spend less time and money.

Just move on with

your life.

Now, as a guy who drives about $100 million in revenue every year,

that makes you a target.

I know it

because

people do not understand that when they come to work for us at the place, they'll be like, oh, no, it's easy.

You just do this.

And we're like, no, no, no.

We call it, jokingly, the Glenn Beck tax.

No, you don't understand.

You're working with Glenn Beck.

There's no, there's no, there's no like, oh, no, we can do this.

No,

no,

because we're a massive target.

And people don't understand that until they work here for a while.

As a guy who's been number one for 20 years on cable news,

do you think some people are going to try to take him down, especially on the Fox News network, especially that he is viewed as if he leaves, Fox is destroyed?

Without Roger Ailes,

who was the bulldog at the door.

Like him, hate him, whatever,

he was effective and he kept the

vampires at the door, sucking the blood out of life,

the lifeblood out of Fox News.

How it survives without Roger Ailes is beyond me.

How it survives without Bill O'Reilly, and you don't think the left understands this?

The media is never going to give Bill O'Reilly or anyone with his effectiveness and his point of view a fair shake.

I would like one from time to time.

I am being accused now that I am stomping on people's freedom of speech.

That is so far out of every reality.

And some, very few,

claim, listeners, the people that claim to be my listeners believe that.

Well, you were never my listener if you believe that, because you cannot doubt.

You knew nothing about me.

But that's the way.

You should ask Amy Holmes about that.

Yeah, that's the way the world works.

That's the way this press works.

That's the way the left works.

And quite frankly, that's the way the right works when they want to destroy somebody.

But the left is very, very good at it.

And

this is not you taking, you know.

going after people who are making accusations.

I mean,

this is just you talking about someone you know.

You don't know everything about every person and every interaction, obviously.

And

it's not to go.

Joe Riley deserves the benefit of the doubt.

He gets it from me,

actually.

It isn't until proven guilty.

Yes, until it has been proven guilty.

That's certainly not the assumption here by many.

And to be fair, Maxine Waters said last night he should go to jail.

Should go to jail.

Should jail.

Are you kidding me?

Should go to jail.

And a lot of this has to do with the stuff that happened with Roger, because people now see Fox as

anything you say about them, them and that atmosphere will be believed.

And that's not fair.

Look at it, honestly.

There are things that I saw and I witnessed and

things that happened at Fox that truly turned my stomach, truly almost destroyed my hope in

people.

But I will tell you, if it wasn't for Bill O'Reilly, I think it would have been destroyed.

I walked in hearing all these stories about Bill O'Reilly.

Bill O'Reilly is none of those things.

Bill O'Reilly was buttoned up and professional every step of the way.

He is uber, uber smart.

Now, maybe again.

I don't know.

I'm not with him every second of the day.

I have no idea.

But boy, the Bill O'Reilly that I know and that I saw working side by side for a long time, there is no doubt in my mind that he's just smarter than that.

And I would hope

that

even though I disagree with Bill O'Reilly, particularly on Donald Trump, and he has said things about, you know, never Trumpers or whatever the category he might put me in, and he has not even had me on his show for since the Trump thing began.

I don't care.

I don't care.

I know who he is.

He did not ask me.

I did not engage with him on, so Bill, doesn't matter.

We have to stand up for what we believe is right and we have to stand up for people who are coming under fire until they prove otherwise.

By the way, for the record, there are far more facts and witnesses and issues about Bill Clinton, who seems to get the benefit of the doubt all the time.

Good luck, Bill.

Stay strong.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Mercury.

This is the Glenn Beck Pergrav.

Let me tell you,

we have Calvin Coolidge, part three of our series on Calvin Coolidge.

If you have missed any of these, you've got to go to the website and

get the serial glennbeck.com

serials, Calvin Coolidge, or just join coming up in a minute.

He is the best president of the 20th century and top five presidents of all time.

The debate has actually been, is he the greatest president in American history?

Yes.

Yeah.

It's not that

is he is he one of the best of the 20th century.

No,

without a doubt, the best president of the 20th century and perhaps

number

two,

I think number three

best presidents of all time.

Do you agree with that?

He's definitely top three.

The only ones I think you could maybe put ahead of him are Washington and Lincoln.

Yeah.

And nobody knows about him.

So you will coming up in just a few minutes.

Pretty incredible.

By the way, I want to make it clear that we should use Hillary Clinton's standards on

every accuser.

Should be believed.

There you go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's an interesting.

Actually, no, every accuser should be heard.

Taken seriously?

Taken seriously.

Taken seriously.

Every accuser should be taken seriously.

What Hillary Clinton said is actually un-American.

It is.

Right.

Because it's the

accuser.

It's a presumption of innocence.

Yeah.

Every accuser being believed means that I agree.

I'm telling you right now, you're right.

He is guilty.

Yeah.

Or she is guilty.

It's crazy.

That's a crazy story.

I need to listen to you and say, okay,

all right, let's take this to the, let's take you seriously and literally, and now let's go find the facts.

It's also a standard that Hillary Clinton did not employ in the mid to late 90s.

It's not a standard.

The standard that they are using right now

on Bill O'Reilly is the standard that they all fought against

with Bill Clinton and still fight against.

Yeah.

They fought against it during, they fought against it

during the campaign.

And, you know, the Maxine Waters of the world, they care nothing about the women in these situations that are even accusing.

They don't care.

She cares about taking Bill O'Reilly out, whether there's any information there or not.

She doesn't like him.

She wants him gone, and in fact, wants him in prison.

As we found a congressman saying she wants a private person in prison.

Silent trial.

Silent Cal, Calvin Coolidge.

Next.

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Two presidents that almost nobody knows anything about, Harding and Coolidge.

In 1923, America lost its sixth president to die while still in office, Warren G.

Harding.

He had served half of his first term, but what a two-year period it was.

He and Vice President Calvin Coolidge had, through swift, decisive actions, not to mention non-actions, catapulted the nation out of a deep depression in just one year, leading the Depression of 1920, often being referred to as the Forgotten Depression.

Across the country from President Harding's untimely death in San Francisco, the Vice President was visiting his Vermont family home.

It was a comfortable yet simple homestead with no electricity and no telephone connections.

It was so isolated from the outside world that a messenger had to be dispatched to the house to alert the vice president that he was now the commander-in-chief.

Quickly awakened at 2.47 in the morning, August 2nd, 1923, by the dim glow of a kerosene lamp, his father, a notary public, swore in his son, Calvin Coolidge, as President of the United States.

Worn out from the day's events, the 30th President took his wife's hand and together they walked back upstairs and went back to bed.

There would be time enough after daybreak to reflect on the momentous occurrence that had just swept them into history.

Coolidge had been successful and very popular in every political office he had ever held, and he had a lot of them.

He was city councilman, city solicitor, clerk of courts, Massachusetts state congressman, state senator, governor, vice president, and now the president of the United States.

The only election he ever lost was an early run for the local school board, which he lost because he had no children at that time.

And the people wanted to see that his kids would be affected by every decision he made.

Upon taking office, there were some serious scandals that were starting to take shape involving Harding's cabinet appointees.

David Petruse explains how he handled them.

It's very important right off the bat is is to restore faith in the federal government, which had been tarnished very badly by the scandals of the people serving under his predecessor, Warren Harding.

Where the Secretary of the Interior is going to go to jail, Albert B.

Fall, the Attorney General, Harry Dougherty, is going to be indicted.

There are massive scandals in the Veterans Administration.

And what does Coolidge do?

Does he try to cover them them up?

Does he make excuses for them?

No.

So, with the backdrop of the Harding scandals, how did Coolidge restore America's faith in the executive branch?

He appoints two special prosecutors, a Democrat and a Republican, and he says, go to it.

And when that Harry Doherty fellow, the Attorney General, refuses to cooperate with Congress, he tells him to hit the road.

And in doing just a few simple, fair, honest things, he turns around the American public's opinion of Washington and of Republican administrations.

And that is no small accomplishment.

This was the character of Calvin Coolidge.

As governor of Massachusetts, he believed that taking on the unions during the Boston police strike would ruin him politically.

But he did it anyway, and he became wildly popular as a result.

He put principle over party and his own ambition, and the people loved him for it.

Coolidge was a man of few words.

In fact, his nickname back then was Silent Cow.

As he boarded the train to head back to Washington, D.C.

to take his office, he was asked if he was ready to be president of the United States, and his only reply was, I believe I can swing it.

And swing it, he did.

Obsessed with shrinking the size of the federal government, government, Coolidge met repeatedly with his budget director.

After he and Harding slashed the budget from $18.5 billion to $6.4 billion, Coolidge cut it in half again to $3.3 billion.

Can you even imagine, especially with us now living in a time where we can't agree on a 1% cut?

He addressed the nation over the new medium called radio.

He was the first president to do so, and he laid out his tax plan.

Here is the actual voice of Calvin Coolidge.

The expenses of the government reach everybody.

Taxes take from everyone a part of his earnings and force everyone to work for a certain part of his time for the government.

Coolidge had a way of personalizing the issue for Americans.

It represents all the pay of five million wage earners receiving $5 a day, working 300 days in the year.

If the government should add $100 million of expense, it would represent four days more work of these wage earners.

These are some of the reasons why I want to cut down public expense.

I want the people of America to be able to work less for the government and more for themselves.

Obviously, Coolidge was a substance over style type of guy, though his dry sense of humor was pretty memorable.

Famously, he didn't talk much, if he didn't have to, and once at the White House dinner party, a woman sitting next to the president tested this truth.

She leaned in and she told the president, I bet, my friend, that I could get more than two words out of you tonight.

Coolidge's reply?

You lose.

And though he certainly didn't have the communication skills of some of the politicians who would come in after him, what he did have was a steely constitutional resolve.

The top tax rate when he first took office was 73%.

By 1925, he had slashed that to 25%.

And in 1923, the nation received what most economists consider full employment, 2.4%.

Coolidge was so concerned about cutting the federal budget that he even got down to the type of mailbags carriers used on their delivery for the Postal Service.

The ones they were using were striped.

That was more expensive than this, the canvas bag that he insisted they switch to.

By 1924, President Coolidge had gained enormous national popularity.

Economically, the roaring 20s were now underway.

Socially, he had granted American citizenship to the Native Americans and had stood up to the KKK.

Under the racist Woodrow Wilson administration, the Klan experienced a massive rebirth.

But Coolidge sought to shut them down.

Of the Klan's motto, America First,

Coolidge said, The generally expressed desire, America first, cannot be criticized.

It is a perfectly correct aspiration for our people to cherish.

But the problem is how to make America first.

It cannot be done by the cultivation of national bigotry, arrogance, or or selfishness.

Hatreds, jealousies, and suspicions will not be productive of any benefits in this direction.

Here we must apply the rule of toleration.

And by toleration, I do not mean indifference to evil.

I mean respect for different kinds of good.

Whether one traces his Americanism back three centuries to the Mayflower or three years of the steerage is not half so important as whether his Americanism of today is real and genuine.

No matter by what various crafts we came here, we are all now in the same boat.

If that last line sounds familiar, it's because a generation later, civil rights leader Martin Luther King would borrow that line from Coolidge in his own writings.

Why is Calvin Coolidge not celebrated as one of the greatest presidents in American history?

In 1924, with the election looming, the Republican Party begged the popular president to run for his own term.

And finally, he agreed.

But on June 30th, just a few weeks after being officially nominated by the GOP, Coolidge gathered his family, wife, Grace, 17-year-old son John, and 16-year-old Calvin Jr., to pose for photographs at the White House.

It was a formal session of photos, so by the time it ended, the two teenage boys couldn't wait to change out of their uncomfortable suits that they had been wearing for far too long in the summer heat of Washington, D.C.,

and into the attire suitable for a tennis match on the White House courts.

Calvin Jr.

was so anxious to get out to face his brother on the tennis court that he wore no socks with his tennis shoes.

The two boys engaged in spirited and a hotly contested set in the burning D.C.

sunshine.

But the constant rubbing against his exposed feet on his shoes soon caused Calvin Calvin Jr.

an uncomfortable blister on one of his toes.

So the pair stopped their match a little early and went inside the residence.

The next day, the pain from the blister intensified and Calvin Jr.

developed a very high fever.

His toe had already become badly infected.

Calvin Jr.

was in a lot of pain and his father, the president, was so overcome with worry that he could barely execute his presidential duties.

He would conduct meetings on one end of the White House complex and then quickly retreat to his son's bedside every chance he got.

On July 3rd, 1924, his condition became so serious that they took him to Walter Reed Medical Center, where the best doctors in the nation converged to try to save the president's son.

This is the day before, the time before, penicillin, when sepsis infection could prove fatal, and it does.

And the

scene of Calvin Coolidge at his son's deathbed

is incredibly heart-wrenching and he is quite shattered by this loss of his son as anyone would be.

He writes in his autobiography that all the joy of being president departed at that point.

This would be a turning point for not only the Coolidge family, but also the nation.

President Coolidge would never be the same again.

It was said from then on, he likely suffered from clinical depression.

The loss of his youngest son was more than he could bear.

But Coolidge somehow pressed on anyway.

In November, he swept to victory in a gigantic landslide in a three-person race, taking 382 electoral votes to just 136 for Democrat John Davis and 13 for the third political candidate, Robert La Follette.

The popular vote was massive as well, well, with Coolidge winning 54%.

Yet, as civic-minded as he was, as committed to making a difference for his country, he had always been, Calvin Coolidge derived no pleasure from winning the election to the highest office in the world.

After his son died, Coolidge still got through all his tax cuts after Calvin died, but the mood was different.

Through his personal tragedy, America's 30th president continued to work hard for the American people.

His accomplishments, his setbacks, and his legacy in the next episode.

Tomorrow on the Glen Beck Program, in chapter four of our serial on Calvin Coolidge, you'll learn about his legacy.

Listen live or online at glennbeck.com/slash serials.

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Good friend of the show, we haven't seen in, I don't know how long, Bruce Feiler.

You remember Bruce wrote the book?

He's written several really good books.

One of them is America's Prophet, the story of Moses, and how Moses is the prophet of America.

Moses tablets in the hands of the Statue of Liberty and how

our

pilgrims thought they were completing the journey of the Israelites here, how

George Washington going to the Promised Land.

Yeah, felt that same thing.

You know, he is really brilliant.

Then he did a PBS special.

What was it?

Living the Bible or what was that?

Remember, he went over and he lived in the Middle East and took you through the Middle East.

Walking.

Walking the Bible.

Walking the Bible.

And now he's written a new book called The First Love Story, Adam, Eve, and Us, Why Adam and Eve Still Matter.

And the insights in this

are

pretty remarkable.

He says

Americans

living alone is higher now than ever before in history.

And he says, you know, let's go back to the Adam and Eve.

Should man be alone?

No.

And what does that do to us?

What does it do to us as a society?

How do we view women?

How do we view sex?

You know,

really a fascinating, fascinating book.

He's going to be with me tonight at five o'clock for the full hour on the Blaze TV.

And he's going to join us here in just a few minutes.

Bruce Feiler, the first love story, Adam, Eve, and Us.

Next.

The Glenbeck program.

Mercury.

This is the Blaze Radio on Demand.

We are

very excited about this hour.

We are going to tell you a little bit about what's happening in the White House.

I want to show you a pattern that I think you need to understand

and the reach out to Hollywood and the important jobs that are now going to the family you need to be aware of.

Also, Bruce Feiler is with us.

Bruce is a dear friend of mine who I met probably seven years ago, something like that.

And he has written some really important books.

He's done it again.

This time it is the first love story, Adam, Eve, and Us.

Why the heck does the Adam and Eve story matter?

We begin there right now.

I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand.

Cause we have won.

I will be my drum.

I have made my choice.

We will overcome.

Cause we are one.

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenn Beck Program.

Hello, America.

Welcome and welcome to Bruce Feiler.

How are you, Bruce?

It's great to be with you, Glenn.

I'm just happy to be here and nice to see you looking so great, this wonderful room.

So thank you for having me.

We were,

the first time we met, you were riddled with cancer,

didn't know if you were going to make it, and you wrote one of the most honest books.

It just, just grabbed me by the heart and the throat.

I don't even remember the name of it.

The Council of Dads.

Council of Dads.

And you were putting together a council in case you died.

Here are the, I pick this guy because of these values.

I pick this guy because of these values.

It was a fascinating study.

How are you, first of all, how are you doing?

I'm well.

I'm cancer-free.

And, you know, they say cured.

I'm not sure I like that language, but healthy, walking around.

And

then you wrote America's Prophet, which was another book that just riveted me because it really told our American story

and put it into real context, important context.

You're a big star and you, you know, you're on PBS and you write all kinds of, you know, number one bestsellers.

And this one is about Adam and Eve.

And I'm fascinated,

especially since you're here this week, because I thought a lot about Adam and Eve and my relationship with my wife

just last week.

I was pondering Adam and Eve for some reason

and

how much that story has to teach us.

And then, you know, I start reading your book and, you know, you've taken a little pondering and taken it the full hundred yards.

Let's start with the Sistine Chapel.

So this journey in some ways begins in the Sistine Chapel.

I mean, my process really begins at my kitchen table.

I have a working wife.

I have children.

As you know, my kids are almost exactly the age of your children.

And we talk a lot about the changing ways that men and women are relating to each other, right?

This moment of sort of tectonic change.

And most, and I write a lot about this in my last two books, 100 New York Times columns, and mostly it's about technology or the latest app or like, you know, we're going to do it differently.

But, you know, as you, I care a lot about the ancient world and the Bible.

I spent a lot of time in the Middle East and I can't help wondering, is there nothing from the past that's not worth preserving?

We go to the Sistine Chapel.

Day one,

it's a business trip for my wife, and I'm like, okay, I'm going to take my sleep-deprived daughters to the Vatican.

It doesn't go well.

They're complaining.

My feet hurt.

This is boring.

I'm like, get in the Sistine Chapel, girls.

I'm going to blow your mind.

They look up and one of my girls looks at Adam and God, the fingers right across the sky and says, that's only men.

Where am I in that picture?

And her identical sister looks up and sees, by the way, my mother's an art teacher.

I never noticed this.

Under God's arm is a woman.

She says, is that Eve?

And that's when I realized I had one of those moments that, you know, you've gone on these journeys writing these things out of nowhere.

This story has been at the heart of every conversation about men, women, and sexuality for 3,000 years.

And as crazy as it sounds, maybe it has something to teach us.

And you mentioned walking the Bible earlier in the lead up to this in the last hour.

And so I'm an experientialist.

Like I like to go to places.

Like I climb Mount Ararat, cross the Red Sea.

But where am I going to go, right?

I mean, you can go to the Garden of Eden and Iraq.

But what happens is I start tugging on strings, Glenn, and this whole opportunity.

Every generation we've looked at this story, right?

So Michelangelo and John Milton and Ernest Hemingway and Mark Twain and Beyonce and Bob Dylan and Pope Francis.

So I get to go on like this incredible scavenger hunt all over the world trying to look at how people have explored this story and try to figure out what lessons it can hold.

I'm going to have you on for an hour tonight on television and I invite you to watch.

It'll be a fascinating, trust me, Bruce is a fascinating guy.

And I want to talk about your journeys and the different things that you found as you went on these journeys and the way everybody looks at it.

But help me out with

why does it matter?

What can it teach us today?

Because right now, I think we are living the Kipling poem.

And if you don't know it, look it up, the gods of the copybook headings.

We are living those times right now where

everything

that was known to be true is just thrown out.

And we're just making it up and saying, this is true.

We have no idea if that's true.

So we throw things out like Adam and Eve.

Yeah.

So I think, look, I was interviewed in Time Magazine this week on the last page, eight questions with Bruce Feiler.

And one of the questions they asked me was, coding class or Bible study?

Okay.

And what I said was, you know, for my daughters, they like math and they believe, like all kids, that every bit of knowledge is behind that screen.

If they look long enough into that computer, they're going to know everything.

And I was like, you know what?

It's rare and it's kind of counterculture and it's almost outrageous today to say you can learn something from the past.

So I said Bible study.

To me, in some ways, this book is about, the first love story is about let's remember that there is wisdom in the past.

You mentioned this in the lead up to this conversation, Glenn.

positive psychology, the happiness movement.

What has it said to us?

Relationships matter.

Okay, you and I have been connected.

We don't see each other all the time.

We are connected.

We have that connection.

Happiness is other people.

The big threat is loneliness.

Young people, middle-aged people, the opioid crisis, suicide crisis.

What's the first thing God says about human beings in the Bible upon looking at Adam?

It's not right for humans to be alone.

The Bible gets there 3,000 years before social science.

And if you're one of those people who thinks science, who needs the Bible?

Here's a beautiful example where that's not true.

And by the way, if you're the kind of person who says the Bible has everything, not science, also not true.

You put the two in dialogue with each other.

So I actually think that the story itself is a beautiful story about resilience, forgiveness, togetherness.

They make missteps.

They have problems.

They can call it sin if you want to, but they stay together, right?

They start together.

They leave Eden.

They stay together.

They have two children.

One of them murders the other.

They reconcile.

They come back together, right?

We know what's key to a relationship.

You've been married a long time, as I have, going on 15 years in my case.

Being able to mend a rupture,

heal the broken heart, get over our mistakes, admit mistakes, that's key.

Boy, do Adam and Eve do that.

And boy, the way, their mistakes were a lot bigger than ours are, okay?

Also, there's a kind of balance of the story between independence and interdependence.

Like, you need to be together, but you also need to be yourself, right?

I think of this Kahil Gabron quote that you may know, right?

Love is the antidote to loneliness, as long as there's aloneness.

within it, right?

We have to be ourselves, but be connected.

And then to me, the number one thing that I've learned, and as I've been out there in the country now talking about this book and people responding to it, is that love is a story we tell with another person.

It's co-creation through co-narration.

The storyteller in you can really relate to this.

Like, you and I are in a relationship.

We have to tell a story together.

And we hit a bump in the road or we have

a downturn, we have to write a new chapter in our story together.

And that's what I think is powerful about the Adam and Eve story is that...

Think of all the other figures in the Bible, by the way.

Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus, Paul, what do they all have in common?

They're all singles.

Adam and Eve, they're a couple, right?

Not Adam, not Eve, Adam and Eve.

They're reminding us that that connection is at the start of the human line.

It's very powerful.

And this especially matters to women and to the men who, along with women, are rewriting the story because this story was weaponized against women for a century.

Yeah, I was going to ask you about that

because I think that's an important thing to get to.

Is at least in my faith, we don't look at Eve as the evil one or the weak one.

So, but a lot of people do, and they're still carrying around original sin.

I mean,

it had to be.

Right.

How did you,

what did you find on the

weaponization of Eve?

Yeah, so when you go back to the original story, they're created in Genesis 1, both in God's image.

What's true for the man is true for the woman.

And there's this kind of seesawing of power.

But what happened is that organized religion got a hold of the story, and they used it, they essentially weaponized it.

I think that Adam and Eve are victims of the greatest character assassination the world has ever known.

And then what's happened is, I mean, we now live in a world where women kind of are dominating religion.

They're propping it up.

They care more, they're involved more, they take the responsibility for passing on values, and they weren't going to do it if this story was going to put them down.

I mean, so there's, I mean, here, I don't know if you know this story.

I mean, as you know, it's in the back of my book, if maybe you knew it before, I didn't.

Elizabeth Cady Stanton, at at the birth of the women's movement in the 1840s, she's out there with Susan B.

Anthony fighting for property rights and voting rights for women.

And they kept hitting a stumble.

Why?

Because someone would say, the Bible says, you know, Eve was created second.

Or the Bible says you can't vote because Eve is created from Adam's rib.

And she realizes her biggest problem is not preachers.

It's not politicians.

It's preachers.

So if women are going to have equality in this country, she's got to rewrite the Bible, and she does.

In 1895, she writes writes a book called The Woman's Bible that goes back to the Adam and Eve story, back to Genesis 1 and says, look, our creator has us formed at the same time.

Don't tell me women are not equal.

The book is a landmark.

It's a bestseller.

It's a disaster.

The organization that she started with Susan B.

Anthony gets together and they kick her out.

So the reason that we all know Susan B.

Anthony and she's on our coinage is because Elizabeth Cady Stanton, the most famous woman in America at the time, takes on the most famous couple in the world and gets flattened, absolutely destroyed.

It was not for a century until this story was told again, because that's how powerful this, I think of there's the negative branding of Adam and Eve.

You know, you got 3,000 years of negative branding.

But the reason this matters is because today, can anybody deny that men and women stand equally before God?

No.

No.

It was a 30-century battle to reclaim this story.

And why does it matter?

Because that's what we want to tell our daughters,

that you can stand before God, that you deserve to have a loving relationship, that you can overcome it.

We owe this to Adam and Eve.

It does make me a little nervous about rewriting the Bible, though.

Doesn't that sound like that?

No, I don't think he, no, like.

I'm not saying rewriting the Bible.

I'm saying reread the story.

Go back to the Bible.

Go behind the layers of tradition.

This is what, I mean, the great, look, this is what, what,

here, explain this because this will really help.

By the way, we're talking about the new book, The First Love Story, Adam, Eve, and Us.

Bruce Feiler is the author.

Explain this because this is just little things like this that you point out in your book, I think are so important.

How was Eve made?

From a rib, right?

Not correct.

Not correct.

Go ahead.

It's a cela, okay?

So

the Bible, it says she's created from the ceilah.

By the way, the ultimate Hollywood meat cute.

Okay, so what you have is you have Adam.

You got the animals are there in Adam.

So Adam, God parades the animals before, and you have this like swipe left, swipe left, swipe left.

He doesn't want to put away a wrist or a cowboy or a hippopotamus.

And he looks up, and God says, You know what?

It's not right for you to be alone.

I'm going to create one of you.

So, he falls asleep, and he wakes up, and there's a girl, by the way, and he's happy.

This is the one, right?

Bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh.

He's like ready to go.

And by the way, very positive.

The two of them are naked and know no shame, sex positive, they're having a good time.

It's almost like the honeymoon moment.

But what is she created from?

It's not the rib.

It's a salah in Hebrew.

38 times that word word is used in the Hebrew Bible.

It means side or side room.

So they stand side by side.

Why do they pick the rib?

Because they said a rib is small and insignificant and given to putrefaction.

I'm talking church fathers.

I'm talking the rabbis.

Because women are small and insignificant and given to putrefaction.

I mean, even if you put dirt by the side of a road, it's created by the dirt, right?

Put dirt by the side of the road.

It doesn't smell.

Put a rib.

It starts to stink.

That's why women have to wear perfume.

I mean, you cannot believe what is there.

Even if you know there was patriarchy, you just cannot believe.

But when you look at the story, Adam is into her.

She's in.

Even when they're kicked out of Eden, God blesses them, protects them.

Remember, what's the first commandment God says?

Be fruitful and multiply.

He needs them to succeed, and they do succeed.

It is a success story, even with the misstep, even with the sin.

We can't let that overshadow that this has got to get the biblical story.

But to your point, Stu, this is what I want to say.

Okay.

You know, who has done more to popularize American history than you, Glenn?

I'm serious.

I'm not, I mean, I, you know, I know

how you responded to America's Prophet.

We just heard a session on, you know, Calvin Coolidge before we came on here.

The reason that we can have this conversation about religion today in this country is because of the rewriting of religion, because we, our forefathers, our founding fathers, said there's going to be a separation of church and state.

What did that mean?

That means there was not going to be a state-sponsored religion.

So all the places where there's state-sponsored religion in the world, except where there are, let's say, dictators like Iran, and like in Europe, those religions have all died.

Our religion is still here.

Why?

Because it adapted, because it was able to meet people where they were and change and say religion was going to be relevant to their lives.

And become enlightened.

I mean, so many of these stories were written this way or spun this way for control.

And you, I mean...

Because you're talking more about religion than because

there's a separation maybe between religion as it stands, as an organization, people, what they've done with this original truth

and the original truth.

Exactly.

You study the Torah, which I would love to actually really study like Jewish people do.

Christians are so far behind the eight ball.

They have no concept of what the Old Testament really says.

You read it outside of its original language.

You lose 80% of it.

You really do.

Do you think I'm exaggerating?

I think, look, when you actually go back and read it, I mean, first of all, where are people today?

Religion is very fluid in this country.

Half of Americans change faith in the course of their lives, right?

Four in 10 Americans are in an interfaith marriage.

We're in a time of fluidity where you kind of make your own faith.

It's harder, but ultimately it can be more fulfilling.

You mentioned the Sistine Chapel at the outside of this conversation.

What's the center of the Sistine Chapel?

Not God and Adam, okay?

That's the fourth panel, the fifth panel, the one in the center.

It's not the creation of Adam.

It's the creation of Eve.

You have Adam lying to the left, God to the right, and Eve occupies the center of the Sistine Chapel.

So Michelangelo did more than anybody to elevate Eve and to kind of fight back against this tradition of downplaying Eve.

And when you go back and you look at the story, you see that basically over the 30 centuries that this story has been told, it was used to downplay women, then elevate women, and now men and women, we're all struggling with it.

This story is the roadmap for how to do it.

I cannot wait to have a long conversation with you today, 5 o'clock on the Blaze TV.

Bruce Feiler, the name of the book is The First Love Story, Adam, Eve, and Us.

Really, really worth it.

And join us for this conversation because you're always fascinating.

And I've got something that I don't know if you know,

but

that you'll be very excited about to

learn if you don't.

But if you do, we're going to have even a greater conversation.

Bruce Feiler, thanks for being with us.

We are one.

The Glenn Beck Program.

Mercury.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

The author of Walking the Bible and Abraham,

New York Times best-selling author and good friend of the program, Bruce Feiler is with us.

The first love story, Adam, Eve, and Us.

He's going to be on with me for a full hour.

Before you walk out of the studio, I want to ask you one question.

Do you believe the Adam and Eve story is an allegory or do you believe it actually happened?

First of all, I believe there's truth in it.

That's the most important thing.

And the second thing is I go with the dean of biblical archaeologists who said to me, I don't know if Adam and Eve existed then, but I know they exist now.

They're on the Sistine Chapel.

They're in Paradise Lost.

They're in all of our lives.

So they have become real, and that, I think, is what matters the most.

So if you come on this journey, I don't think at the end of it, you're going to think that they don't matter anymore.

You come on this journey, I think you'll be surprised, you'll learn something, but in the end, I think you'll be uplifted because the story is still ripped from the headlines today and all of our kitchen tables.

Okay, Bruce Feiler joins me tonight, five o'clock, only on the Blaze TV.

Don't want to miss it.

The first love story: Adam, Eve, and us.

Back in a minute with what's happening at the White House.

This is the Glenn Vec program:

Mercury.

The Glenn Veck Program.

Welcome to the program.

I'm so glad that you're here.

I want to talk to you a little bit of what happened in the White House yesterday.

According to sources at the White House, Steve Bannon threatened to quit several times.

Oh, no.

That would be horrible.

No.

No, don't say that.

There is a, there's a,

in the words of those around Bannon, there is a big battle that America needs to be aware of between, quote, the nationalists and the Democrats.

You'll notice that conservatives are not even in the equation here.

It sounds like a series between the Yankees and Red Sox.

There is no winner.

There's no one to root for.

Cowboys, Redskins.

That's what that's.

I mean, honestly, like, I can you say the Cowboys would be the one to root for there, but you're actually awful.

Actually, the worst team in American history.

So you're concerned with that.

I'm sure Bruce Feiler would back it up.

If he was to write a book on that, he'd say the Cowboys suck.

You realize we're surrounded by millions of Texans.

And we live in Dallas, Texas.

We live in Dallas.

Yeah, you know, this is what I'm willing to go down on.

Oh, Dallas fans.

I'm willing to go down on so many things, not on that.

I mean, go Dallas.

Anyway,

so

the nationalists versus the Democrats.

That is really a no-win situation.

And

because the Nationalists are, I'm sorry,

they're...

populist nationalists, they're going to go the way the wind blows.

And that is not what Americans were asking for.

Now, there's a new study out, and Stu can talk about this

that is talking about health care.

And it is truly frightening what has happened to the right.

We'll get into that.

What right?

Yeah, there is no right anymore.

But we'll get into that here in just a second.

But I want to talk to you about not only was Bannon pushed out yesterday in one area, Mercer, who is the big funder of Breitbart,

she convinced

Bannon to stay.

He was threatening to walk out.

If he is fired or he walks out in anger,

the party is over for Donald Trump at Breitbart.

I don't know how he's going to let him walk out the door because he doesn't want Breitbart and Steve Bannon against him.

But we'll see what happens.

By the way, Bannon is denying these reports, saying he,

the latest report I saw was that he said something like, I love a good gunfight.

Oh, yeah.

No, he does.

He was staying and fighting.

Well, so the gunfight is between Bannon and Kirshner.

Kushner, yeah.

So

Donald Trump's son-in-law, hmm, who's going to win?

It's not a battle that you'd want to fight.

Yeah, who's going to win?

I think,

I think Ivana

and

Jared are probably

going to be on the winning side there.

Now, why is that a problem?

Because

they are liberals.

They are elites.

They are Democrats through and through.

Socially in particular.

Yeah.

I mean, you know,

I don't think that they're necessarily unfriendly to business.

But, yeah, no, but that's not what I was preserving the nation for.

You know, I want business to be preserved.

That's an important part of it.

I mean, economic freedom is an important part of the foundation of this country.

So I would agree.

You know, yeah.

You know, I think what you're saying here is you have, you know, you've got the Cowboys versus the Redskins.

Where are the Eagles?

A team we can root for.

The Constitutionalists, where are they?

Where are the Philadelphia Eagles for us to all come together?

The Eagle soaring through the sky.

Where is that for all of us?

Shut up.

So,

Jared Kushner, here's what he is in charge of so far.

Middle East peace.

He is the one that is to try to find a way to bring Middle East peace.

He is also in charge of government reform.

He is also heading up the White House Office of American Innovation.

He is also heading up the opioid crisis management team.

He is also heading up the criminal justice reform.

He is also the liaison to Mexico, the liaison to China, and the liaison to the Muslim community.

So I don't know when he's going to sleep.

That's a busy guy.

Wow.

Now, who did he just hire?

He just hired a PR executive for the White House role.

Who is this guy?

Well, this guy

is going to be running the communications for the Office of American Innovation.

He is a guy that I believe did some work for Hillary Clinton years ago.

He is a lefty.

He is a guy who is...

I mean, he is.

He's not a conservative.

And he's a guy who worked for me for a very long time.

And I have nothing but great things to say about him.

Fantastic.

Josh Raffelle.

Yes.

Josh Raffelle.

He is is a great guy

and worked for me for a very long time.

And

now is working for Blumhouse, the film production company in Hollywood.

And then going to the White House.

And going to the White House.

It's interesting.

I mean, I take it as a positive thing in that, like, one of my big criticisms over Trump, if you may have noticed over the time, is I didn't believe him when he said, you know, we're going to find the best people.

And there's a lot of examples where he has not looked for the best people.

And I've been very concerned about that.

I mean, Josh is the best.

And bringing in somebody like that into the White House, I think, is a real, real positive.

And when you look at the two wins, if this is a real battle, and again, these are press reports.

You never know with this stuff.

But if it's a real battle between Kushner and Bannon,

there are no conservatives here to argue for, as you point out.

That's not possible.

Of those two, The one I'm pretty sure isn't going to make the world explode is the Jared side.

Yeah, I'm for Jared's side.

I mean, Jared is, you know, know, again, I would not agree with him on everything, but

he's a smart guy.

Pretty much everybody agrees with that.

And he's balanced.

And I don't think he's going to write any stories about, you know, renegade Jews in his papers

as Bannon has done.

There's a lot of stuff that's gone on at Breitbart.

And look, you know, when you're talking about a situation with the world and the state it is, out of those two, you're not going to get conservative, hardcore conservative policies out of this.

That's not what this is about.

You know, well, I don't think we're headed that way.

Let me give you, we've talked about this for the last couple of days.

Stu has a new one that is out, a new study of Trump supporters.

Now, remember, this is shocking.

Here's what I'm concerned about.

And I said this from early on.

You might,

you might get your Supreme Court justice.

You might.

And I said, but it's going to be a hard fight.

How much political capital is he willing to spend on the right person?

That's yet to be seen.

Although we did just recently, just happening moments ago, the Democrats did filibuster.

So that's confirmed.

So Gorsuch is now, they're going to have to go nuclear option to get him through.

But Justice, that vote is just happening.

So we expect probably by tomorrow that that will happen and he will be confirmed.

But we don't know.

Now let's see.

And I think I've given him praise for nominating and standing with him so far.

It was a great pick so far.

We'll see what he does when he gets the job.

But my fear was he wouldn't stand up and he's going to start getting beat up, which he is, and he's going to start moving to the left because that's where he naturally is comfortable.

And more importantly, it's where his family is comfortable.

And he's surrounding himself with family as the decision makers.

They're going to influence him and pull him left.

So you start to have the lefties that are influencing and pulling him there.

On top of that, where is the conservative viewpoint?

Here is the latest on Trump voters.

Incredible.

The question is, your opinion on health care reforms.

Should we expand Medicare to provide health insurance to every American?

That is the single-payer plan we've talked about all this time.

It's the plan that Bernie Sanders proposed in the campaign, not Hillary, Bernie.

Too radical for Hillary Clinton.

Here's the support levels.

Trump.

Trump voters, 40%

favor somewhat or strongly.

42%

or excuse me.

Yeah,

47%.

Sorry, I read the wrong line.

47% oppose.

Now, of course, Clinton is 80 to 8.

in favor of this.

Look at this among ideology.

This is liberal voters, voters, 82 to 9 favor, you'd expect them to favor it.

Single payer.

Single payer healthy.

Socialized medicine, which we were told eight years ago was crazy.

We were never going for.

That's not what the plan was.

Moderates, 60 to 15.

60 to 15 among moderates.

Conservatives, 41, 43.

They are split.

These things, what this indicates is there no right.

There is no conservative movement.

A split among people who identify themselves as conservatives?

That is incredibly shocking.

Republicans, it's so do the parties.

Democrats, 75 to 12 favor single-payer healthcare.

Independents,

58 to 21 favor single-payer.

According to this, this is Economist YouGov poll.

Republicans, 36%

support it

or excuse me, geez.

It's worse.

It's worse.

46% support it.

Oh, my gosh.

38% oppose it among Republicans.

So what do you think the president's going to do?

In a moment when, if he loses this, you know, if he gets in a, and this is the problem I have with Trump, right?

I mean, he gets these, this is the problem with populism.

Yep.

It's like when something happens, whether it's an economic

downturn or he just needs a win,

you give the people what they want.

And the Democrats will go along with it.

And enough Republicans will go.

Look at these numbers.

Enough Republican senators.

You think they have the balls to hold out against a policy like that?

Against a Republican president?

There's no way.

If it was a Democrat, they'd at least give the

outward-facing opposition to it.

When it's a Republican, they're not going to do that.

And that's what makes me so, so nervous.

Well, Hillary Clinton would have given us universal health care.

And And congratulations.

I bet we get it as well.

And now this, except

it'll be a conservative idea this time.

And Republicans would have opposed it if it came from Hillary.

Whether they had the balls to do it when it comes from Trump, man, I have seen no signs of that so far.

No signs of that.

You want to go outside of the Freedom Caucus?

You want to go outside of the Justin Amashas of the world?

Where have you seen this opposition?

You see occasional opposition to Trump from the left side

from Republicans, but man, you never see it from the right.

And you have the balls to stand up against this with these sorts of numbers when you've got 60 and 70% of people saying it's the right thing to do.

I mean, you're going to wind up with a policy that's going to,

you're going to get Canada, you're going to get Great Britain, you're going to get one of these disastrous health care nations.

And without us fueling, remember, these countries that deal with this, with universal health care, have horrible, horrible, horrible

health care in their countries.

However, it's a lot better than it would be because our capitalism is giving, developing the medications, developing the solutions, and then they're getting them for free.

We are not, if we're not here to do that, there's nothing left.

We're the only ones doing it.

Innovation practically stops.

Stops.

Look at the Nobel Prizes.

I mean, it's terrifying.

Lend that program.

888727 back.

Mercury.

The Glenbeck Program.

All right.

So I'd like to ask the boys, what is it that you wanted to get to today that we haven't gotten to?

What are the stories that just cannot wait until tomorrow?

I like the story of, it could wait till tomorrow, but I like the fact that Westport, Westport, Connecticut, just did

a white privilege privilege contest.

And it was won by a black student.

And

they say, you know, there's a lot of controversy around this.

And we just didn't expect that.

Just the fact that it says white and privilege for some people is all they need to see.

And all of a sudden, we're race baiting or trying to get people to feel guilty.

That's not what it's all about.

And then you read what was...

what was spoken in these white privilege of course that's what it's about in westport connecticut where where the median income is $152,000, you're going to start doing white privilege contests.

What hypocrisy?

What hypocrisy?

Oh, but it'll help them sleep at night.

Yeah, won't it, though?

Because they'll say, okay, sure, I have advantages.

I've moved to a town that is almost 100% white.

Almost all white.

Yeah, but I'm open-minded and I

flog you about it.

I flog myself at night.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Mercury.