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Ron Reagan has come out

for the Freedom From Religion Foundation,

and he's trading on his father's name, which I find a little despicable, but he has a right to say his point of view.

But

should he point out that,

hey, my dad and I, you know, disagreed on a lot of stuff?

Should he, does he, does he have a right to trade on his father's name the way he does?

Also, just a horrible story from Calgary about a couple who let their son die.

He was 15 years old.

He had

He was diabetic, he had diabetes, and

they didn't treat him at all.

He was 15 years old.

When he died, they say he looked mummified.

He was 37 pounds.

They're claiming

religion caused them to not treat their son.

They're going away for life.

Where is that line on religious freedom?

We begin there right now.

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Out of Calgary, Canada, the painful death of a diabetic boy who was so emaciated he appeared mummified could have been avoided if his parents had not isolated and neglected him for years.

This, according to a judge, last Friday, he found the couple guilty of first-degree murder.

Justice Karen Horner said Emile and Rhodesia

Redita 54, were equally guilty of murdering their 15-year-old son.

The boy, one of eight children, weighed less than 37 pounds when he died of complications due to untreated diabetes and starvation.

They intended to and did isolate Alex from anyone who could intervene or monitor his insulin treatment aside from themselves, said the judge.

Alex died as a result of bacterial septis brought on by

extreme starvation.

His physical condition at death was not sudden or a quick occurrence.

It rather took place over months and possibly years.

He was unlawfully confined and totally reliant on his parents.

The parents knew what they were doing when they denied him insulin.

Apparently, the family tried to make the case that it was a religious thing that kept him from being treated.

They refused to accept that their son had diabetes and failed to treat the disease.

He was

hospitalized near death in 2003.

Social workers took him out of the hospital, put him in foster care.

He thrived.

He got better.

And then a judge put him back into the hands of his parents.

And his parents...

isolated him, kept him away from everyone, and they moved to alberta and he died it's interesting because

they said that their religious beliefs included not going to doctors where does starvation come from did it also do your rigging religious beliefs not include food uh they apparently did for the parents

and all eating just fine and i think they had eight kids so it was okay for this the other seven kids my understanding i think i read in one of the articles about it was that something with his condition made it difficult for him to eat if he didn't cure his condition.

Yeah, without the insulin.

Without the insulin.

Yeah, he had a hard time eating.

I mean, it's like you look at these things, and

one of these stories pops up every few months where the parents do something that is ill-advised,

but they really believe it.

I would say this is more than ill-advised.

I know.

Well, that's why I said, I'm just saying every few months, there's a story like this.

This one, to me, is so blatantly over the line

that

it's clear.

However,

I don't know how to to define that line.

Yeah, I don't know where that line is either because I don't want to get involved in

taking kids from their parents.

Yeah.

Or stepping on religious beliefs.

I mean,

for instance, remember the kid who had cancer and it was his, I think, second or third bout of chemo.

And the kid said, I don't want anymore.

I don't want anymore.

And the parent said, okay.

And he said, I want to try, you know, herbal therapy or whatever.

And the state came in and I believe took him.

They did.

Did they not?

Yeah.

I don't think you have a right to do that.

But what is different about

that and this?

They refused treatment.

It made it so the kid couldn't eat.

I think this is so egregious, but I'm okay with the cancer kid.

What's the difference?

And this is where, because I think a lot of times we talk about conservatism

as like, you know, you make black and white decisions and, you know, there's right and there's wrong.

And you make that, you know, you follow the thing that's right and wrong.

This is one where progressivism is easier because progressivism just says, if we think there's anything mildly out of step of what we think, we come in and take the kid.

Like as a progressive, this is an easy decision.

You take the kid all the time.

Anytime you think there's anything out of step.

With a conservative, this is harder because, I mean, we're not talking about minor things here.

We're talking about the rights of parents.

We're talking about the, you know, freedom of religion.

These are big issues that can overwhelm almost anything.

But you know what?

I think the average person, even conservative, will say, this is easy.

This is easy.

You take the kids, 37 pounds.

And yeah,

it is until you stop and say, okay, but where is that line?

Was it at 80 pounds?

Is it just because it's diabetes and it's so easily treatable?

And not cancer, which is much more difficult and much more.

I didn't want to do the cancer treatment because, you know, he was like, I've gone through it and I don't want to spend the last parts of my life going that.

It's killing me.

I think even if you haven't gone through it, to be able to say, no, I don't want poison.

And yes, I know it's going to kill me.

Insulin isn't poisoning the body.

It's not poisoning the body.

It's giving the body what it needs.

So there's a big difference there.

And, you know, before a kid gets to 37 pounds, there certainly is some place where you say, okay,

we need to step in here and take him out of that.

37 pounds?

At 15 years old.

I don't know how he lived that long.

I don't know either.

Because, you know, you remember my daughter who got down to 82 pounds when she was 19.

She had a really rare thing

where the

aorta that fed her stomach was completely choked off by a ligament and so she had no blood going to her stomach and she could she couldn't eat so she got down from you know 110 to 82 and we were beside ourselves getting her to doctor's yeah she looked at her 82 pounds she was she was in a life-threatening situation the doctor finally said okay i'm putting her in the hospital and we're not gonna let her out until we find out what's going on and so For a 15-year-old boy, you would think a 15-year-old boy and a 19-year-old girl might be maybe around the same weight.

oh yeah um 110 so he should have been 110 120 130

30 100 pounds less than he should have been there there had to be a place somewhere along that line where you said okay but again enough wait a minute wait a minute enough wait a minute

we all will agree that insulin is medicine yeah If you have a religion and you are against medicine,

don't you have a right to reject it?

Now, here's the complicated part: yes, you do for yourself,

but if you're raising your family and you say, We reject medicine, don't you have a right to raise your children in that faith?

If it's against your faith, remember, we wouldn't be having this conversation if it were, for instance, we're not having the conversation in America that

honor killing is wrong.

We are brooming that under the table.

That's happening here in America.

And we are being so politically correct that we're just brooming that under the table.

I'm going to take a stand against honor killing.

Yeah, right.

I'm going to say that's wrong.

Right.

And we can't allow it.

Correct.

But we're, we all, you know, the press will all go ape crap over stories like this, and they'll say, you got to take them away from that.

Well, what about in families where they believe in honor killing?

Shouldn't we go in and rescue all of those kids?

And quite honestly, my answer there is yes.

And that's wrong.

Honor killing is a, you know, that's something that's not.

But it doesn't have to exactly.

Wait, wait, it doesn't have to go to honor killing.

There's a lot of people who are taught you dishonor the family and we will kill you.

It's because of the honor, because of Allah tells us to.

and they don't necessarily get to honor killing.

Well, isn't that abusive to teach them that?

It winds up being, look, you know, the free market works well in almost all circumstances here.

Most parents want the best for their kids.

They will do what they believe is right.

And what they believe is right is typically right.

You know, I mean, they might have wrong beliefs or they might have things that are crazy or you might think are kooky.

But the bottom line is when it comes to your kids' health, we've seen this with a lot of people go in there and they say, Well, I don't believe in X, Y, and Z, and there's herbal cures and blah, blah, blah.

And then when it comes down to they have the disease and it's getting close,

doctor comes in and saves them.

Happens all the time.

I mean, because the belief is there, but the belief is, you know, it's there until, holy crap, this isn't working.

What do I do?

Oh, I can get a shot and get this cured in a week.

Oh, maybe I'll try that one now.

I mean, so that is the way that typically plays out.

But sometimes these cases do exist, and the line is almost impossible to find if you care about parental rights and

freedom of religion.

Look, everybody says, everybody always says, especially warriors, everybody's an atheist until they're in the foxhole.

Then they all find God.

I don't believe Pendillette would find God at that point.

He's already done his homework.

He knows and believes what he believes.

He's a guy that will,

you know, would die with his belief, no matter how extreme it got.

There are people, I think the vast majority, you're right, when your life or your kid's life is at stake, all of a sudden you abandon all those principles, you do whatever you can.

There are people that

believe it till the end.

We're not going to take medicine.

We're not going to do that.

Right.

And

the free market, the free principle of this, you know, the thing that we talk about is foundational.

freedom of religion, parental rights, solves 99.9% of these things.

But every once in a while, one of these cases comes out and it's at what point do you step in?

Because with children, they are not at the age level to make that decision themselves.

So now, in a way, you know, their religious belief, even if they're there believing it,

they may wind up learning when they're 18 or 19, wait a minute, I probably should have taken the aspirin.

But you don't give them a chance to get to that point.

You know, so there is a point in which you have to step in, right, and say, I'm not going to let this person.

We wouldn't have, I mean, I know we say we're more evolved, but I'm not sure we are.

But there would have been, back in the olden days, that family just would have been avoided by the whole town.

That family is crazy.

You know, that family let their son die, and everybody would have known.

And that just would have been their choice, but we would have ostracized them.

Public shaming versus death, though, is the issue and you know you have a you have a a chance to save this person who can then make their decision if they want to take no medicine at 18 so again so where's the line yeah

can you find the line in this story where's the line and what are you drawing it on said 70 pounds

i'm gonna draw right on 69.4 is where i was going 70 pounds okay of course they said yes he he died the parents admitted he died but he's been resurrected so this is all for naught anyway he's fine oh that's good don't even worry about it.

He's been resurrected.

And see, it's hard to even,

I mean, we all believe in resurrection, right?

If you're Christian, we all believe that.

None of us believe this boy has been resurrected yet.

We believe he will be someday, but it hasn't happened yet.

But they believe it.

This is really hard.

It's hard to know.

It's really hard when you do that.

Because this is also a way, we talked about this with some of the transgender bathroom issues, right?

Like our issue with the transgender bathroom issue is it's not necessarily a transgender person going into the opposite bathroom.

No, not at all.

It's a

straight person who has now a legal defense built out for them whenever they want to go in the bathroom.

No, that never happens.

Well, the same thing exists here.

The same thing exists here in that a neglectful parent has this thing built for them.

If they don't care about their kid, they don't like their kid, they want their kid to die, they can use this as an excuse and say, well, I'm not going to give them any medicine.

That's my religious belief.

Yeah, but I think you have to have more than just, that's my religious belief.

How?

On that principle?

How do you judge that?

Right?

Well, first, I think Christian scientists,

Christian scientists, aren't they the ones that don't believe in modern medicine?

So, I mean, I would say that you would have to have a long history of being a member of a church that actually believed that.

You couldn't just say, well, that's my religious belief.

But, I mean, first of all, you don't get to, you know, there have been new religions created over time where people were the first ones in,

you know, that are members, right?

I mean, mean like these are legitimate things that people have become traditional if you want to go ahead and start your religion you know and you're practicing your religion but again you couldn't just say oh but if you were you started a religion you were practicing your religion then yeah okay I guess I mean if you if

you you know look That is another line that's impossible to draw because people all the time can convert to something and change their beliefs.

And if they say, well, how are you going to, oh, you know what?

I think your religion is not legitimate.

This happened over years.

This happened between 2003 and 2013.

This particular

thing.

But that would strengthen the argument here, right?

That would not weaken it.

It would strengthen it as to your standard as to whether it was a long time and a long developed belief.

Well, I mean, I think you could say, yeah, it was.

Yeah, yeah.

So,

which makes this case even more difficult.

But again, I think for every progressive, it's easy.

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Hello and welcome to the program.

Glad you're here.

I want to play something from a celebrity.

You know, we were just saying yesterday

with the former governor of Kentucky, this

70-year-old guy who

looked like he was in a VW hall, a VFW hall,

giving the response to Donald Trump's State of the Union.

We said, you know, who do they have?

Who are they going to run?

Well, listen to this.

So have you ever thought that given the popularity you have, we haven't broken the glass ceiling yet for women, that you could actually run for president and actually be elected?

Oprah

Winfrey is about to answer.

I actually never thought that that was, I never considered the question even a possibility.

I just thought, oh,

oh.

Right, because it's clear that you don't need government experience to be elected president of the United States, right?

I thought, oh, gee, I don't have the experience.

I don't know enough.

I don't know.

And now I'm thinking, oh.

All right.

How many celebrities are thinking, oh, well, yeah, if Trump can do this, so can I.

I didn't know enough, but clearly I do now.

Open

up,

absolutely.

Opened it up to everybody.

Opened it up to everybody.

Opened my eyes, would not run.

But

with Donald Trump running, I've always thought, well, I'd never run for president.

I could never run for president.

And even me,

I even went, huh,

maybe you could.

Me.

So who else that actually has qualifications?

Think of it, Tom Hanks.

Tom Hanks.

Who's universally beloved?

We don't like his politics, but even we love him.

I think Oprah Winfrey would not do

as well as

we think,

although it could be another runaway.

She would be a black woman, so it would be another historic election.

The press would love her.

You know, what role the press has and can play anymore, I have no idea.

But

she is.

You know, she's got the Jeremiah Wright problem.

Again, she's in the political state.

That's shown to be such a huge problem in

politics.

I know.

But she would be, what I'm saying is she would, again, I think, be very polarizing.

Tom Hanks would not be polarizing.

Not.

And I don't know that his politics would matter, as liberal as they are.

I don't know if it, because people love him.

And how do you, I mean, I'm just trying to strategize how you run against Donald Trump.

Now, if Donald Trump is the president that he was two nights ago,

they're going to not, I don't think they're gonna have a chance in four years.

But

if you want to run against him,

who is going to do that?

Well, it goes to your pendulum theory that you've talked about many times, which is like, you know, we had George W.

Bush, who was, well, you go back before that.

You have Bill Clinton, who is this sort of smooth talking but corrupt sort of guy.

Then people rejected that and went the other way to George W.

Bush, who could barely get through a sentence at times, but

everyone thought was a stand-up guy and loved the country.

And then you went back to a guy who was really,

we went from the guy who couldn't get through sentences to a guy who was famous for speeches and

was the opposite.

He was going to stand up against war and won the peace prize in the first two weeks of his presidency.

Remember, refused to wear the flag lapel pin.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, went the other way.

But he was so smooth and polished and everything.

And then you got to a guy who rejected political correctness and, again, went back to the harsher edges.

It seems like we just swing back and forth.

Whatever problem we think we have, we try to solve with the new guy.

However, there's a bigger pendulum

happening here, and that is it's getting more and more

divisive as it is swinging.

You know, Bill Clinton, then George Bush, then Barack Obama, then Donald Trump.

The sides are becoming more divided and divisive, and the rhetoric is getting harder and harder.

And that goes to the bigger pendulum from the book pendulum, that that doesn't start to swing back the other way until 2024.

We don't get out of this authoritarian.

And if you look at all the countries around the world, authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere.

And we don't get out of that authoritarian swing.

It doesn't start swinging back until 2024.

So if you really want to take on Donald Trump, you either put somebody up like a Tom Hanks that,

how are you going to beat up on Tom Hanks?

I mean, it would be interesting to see because people have always said, you know, me, I'm one of them.

Trump can't fill in the blank.

He won't survive,

fill in the blank.

Okay.

I can't imagine beating up on Tom Hanks and winning, but Donald Trump might be the guy that does it.

Yeah, it may be.

But you think that these guys...

Oh, you have Joe and the volcano.

Joe versus the volcano.

Joe versus the volcano.

No, he won that battle, though.

He won that battle.

But it was terrible.

It was a terrible, terrible nightmare.

Agree on that.

He can never live that down.

But remember, you have people, you have an entire industry, Hollywood, which is filled with people who can do things in a convincing manner, that can act as, in fact, act as presidents, right?

I mean, these are the people who wind up getting roles in these movies and act convincingly as presidents of the United States.

You take the best of that bunch.

Tom Hanks is an obvious one because he's so big.

But you go down through those ranks.

There's so many.

I mean, you know,

Matt Damon is an example, right?

Now, Matt Damon doesn't strike me as a president type, but he was talked about several election cycles ago as running as a Green Party member.

He's no longer, he's no longer out of the mainstream of the Democratic Party.

I don't think Matt Damon and those guys are,

I don't take them seriously.

I take,

no, hang on just a second.

I take

against Donald Trump, you take someone

like

Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, Will Smith,

maybe Oprah,

but

you have this universal like for them.

You know what I mean?

They're Jimmy Stewart.

Right.

I mean, and the guy, you know, Donald Trump, for all the things that he's good at, like, he was most famous for telling people they were fired, right?

Like, that is, you know, that is not what Tom Hanks is most famous for.

He's most famous for being the hero in every situation you've ever seen him in.

Yeah.

I mean, it's going, it would be very difficult to be difficult to do.

On a surface.

Yeah.

I always like Brian Cranson as a guy like this, too.

You've ever watched Brian Cranson in an interview, and he's not like a Tom Hanks level guy by any means, but

he's so engaging and smart and

funny.

You take a guy like that, and I don't know what his political engagement level is, though I don't know how important that is.

Policy-wise, I don't know that that's important at all at this point.

Because again, like you see these, these parties flip-flopping every few years with principled things that you thought were the most important thing in the world to them.

Then they're on the opposite.

That goes for Republicans and Democrats.

They're now on

all the opposite things that they were 10 years ago.

And it's like you look at this.

I don't think it matters policy-wise.

Can you fake it?

Can you be convincing?

Can you be engaging?

I mean, the left has a a zillion of those people that can fake it.

Yeah,

right now we have Trump.

I mean, there's probably one or two others that might pop up.

So the question is, do they, in four years, do they put up somebody who is a rabid dog

to try to, and that would be

a blessing for Trump.

Oh, a blessing.

He's

going to cream them.

Yep.

Cream them.

No, they're better off with a soft-spoken, nice guy, I think, like Tom Hanks.

So you have that.

Yeah, but it can't just be a nice guy.

It couldn't be John Edwards.

No, it's got to be somebody super likable, and Hanks is.

Yeah, and not political.

Politics is

politics.

We're at a place to where if you're political,

if you're a policy guy, I think it's going to hurt you.

If you've been in Congress, I think it's going to really hurt you.

How are you going to win against that?

You're not.

You're not.

That's why this Oprah thing is so interesting because they're all starting to think about it now.

If

Donald Trump can be president, so can I.

Why can't I?

Why wouldn't I be?

You're going to get a massive pay cut, so maybe that will deter some of them.

No, I mean, why can't work?

Look, you don't get a massive pay cut.

You work for four or eight years at a lower level, but you are guaranteed to be a billionaire afterwards.

Yeah.

I mean, it's the best investment of your time ever.

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I mean, I have to

tell you, I mean, you really look into Tom Hank's life, you start to see he lived in an airport for a while because he had passport problems.

Believe.

You know, didn't buckle his seatbelt on that plane that went down, then wanted everybody to feel bad for him.

Right.

You know, when he was on the island with the volleyball.

I mean, he's got some problems.

He's got some issues.

Yeah.

He actually does have, I mean, remember that he said on MSNBC about the World War II soldiers?

What was it?

Yes, he said that that was a racist war.

Yeah, that's right.

That's right.

It's so weird because he had done great documentaries on World War II and the Soviet Union.

Band of Brothers or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, Band of Brothers.

A racist war.

Do you know who the Japanese were?

Right.

I mean,

they were the ISIS of our day.

You aren't kidding.

Or of their day.

They were racists.

Yeah, because they, well, I mean, you could obviously look at the propaganda from that era, and there was a lot of racist propaganda of that era.

Yeah, yeah.

However, that's not the way he really framed it.

It was more than that.

I mean, because everyone knows that the things people said about our enemies at that time.

We weren't afraid to insult her.

No, they were not.

And

when asked to say something good about President Obama, too, wasn't it?

Didn't he say good things about Cuba?

Tom Hanks.

Hanks?

Yeah.

I mean, look, he's definitely a crazy liberal, but

I don't know that those policy distinctions make any difference.

Well, here's what will matter to some people.

Tom Hanks goes in and he loses and he's not Tom Hanks anymore.

No way.

Even if you laugh, you're not Tom Hanks anymore.

Yeah, but it doesn't matter if you're the president of the United States, but

you don't survive a loss of that.

And that's the thing that I'm not sure guys will.

And remember, they're Hollywood.

So, like, who is it?

Will Smith?

Isn't he rumored rumored to be in Scientology?

So they're going to be have, they'll have all these things that, you know, we are not thinking of.

And an open marriage.

That they'll know and go, yeah, I've got an open marriage.

It's Scientology.

I mean, they'll care about it.

They really care about stuff.

Right, but obviously, we mean a lot of people.

I think the Scientology would not help you.

It's the one thing.

Tom Cruise would be a great, he would run and be president in a heartbeat if he wasn't weird about the Scientology stuff.

If he hadn't jumped up and down on Oprah's couch and he's weird about everything.

Yeah, he is.

But he's like one of the nicest guys

around.

Yeah, I don't hear him speak politically either.

I don't hear him speak.

I don't think he does that.

No.

So I don't think he'd do this.

Right.

But he wouldn't do it and he wouldn't win because he's, you know,

he's on, you know, they have video of him on stage at Scientology and, you know,

not good for him.

Again, like, it's, you have to pick the right one, but the right one exists for Democrats.

i mean they have literally every celebrity that can convince you

quite a bullpin i mean this is

this is a group of people that they have hundreds of people to choose from that can convince you they're in space right like this is their job to convince you of crazy things uh and they're and it makes them dangerous yes some of them are outlandish and if you pick the wrong one you could wind up easily losing but uh you know this is if he wasn't dead you know who would be great to run against trump in four years?

Just for the last Chris Farley.

Chris Farley.

Chris Farley.

Just for the last

time.

If only we could bring him back.

Oh, my gosh.

Do you imagine how funny that would be?

How funny that would be hysterical.

Going back to the genesis of this conversation, do you think Oprah would win?

I don't know if she will.

And

I think it's pretty clear she's interested now.

I think it's pretty clear that that's in her head.

And now she's thinking, yeah, maybe.

Maybe that's not so far-fetched.

This guy just won.

Why not me?

In today's world, I mean, she's got the whole no-marriage thing, living with the guy forever.

Does anybody care about that anymore?

That's what people said about Trump.

I mean, the guy got divorced multiple times.

The rumor was that he broke up with one of his wives by leaving the story he leaked to the Daily News on the bed and went to breakfast.

Liberals won't care about that at all.

Uh-uh.

I mean,

liberals will say they care, but I mean, the conservatives will say they care, but they'll just be pounded because really Donald Trump.

I mean, the ads will be really Donald Trump.

I mean, she, you know, I don't know.

I'm not a fan of Oprah Winfrey

at all, but she could make a dent.

Yeah, I think it's frightening.

There was a moment where she was completely untouchable, but that moment doesn't feel like it's still here.

That moment.

That moment went away the minute she, well, first she started talking about religion, and her religion was really

you know there's millions of different ways to get back and yeah and she was

you know she was going to jeremiah right's church so she's kind of screwed up on religion um but i don't know if that matters

what to do for jeremiah's church i know i said i don't know if that matters but that was where she began to have her little downfall from grace but then when she started endorsing political candidates and barack obama that's when she blew her career i'll say one thing about Oprah.

She left that church without public pressure.

It took public pressure for Barack Obama to leave that church.

Yeah.

And she actually warned Barack Obama and said, Hey, you should distance yourself from this church.

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All right, we want to talk a little bit about the Convention of States.

It passed the Senate here in Texas.

It has failed in Utah.

Also,

the large cities in America that are sanctuary cities.

And the wall.

Is it going to be built?

Are there any plans that anyone has heard yet?

The guy who would know is our next guest, the governor of Texas, the great Greg Abbott, joins us right now.

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Texas Governor Greg Abbott,

the federal government's beginning to accept contract bids for the building of the wall along the border with Mexico.

Governor Abbott, have you heard anything about that?

I have, but before I say that, listen, I know you have listeners across the world, but here in the great state of Texas, we are celebrating Texas Independence Day.

I know.

This is the day we became an independent nation nation ourselves many years ago on March the 2nd.

We have a last piece in our serial this week.

We've been doing Texas history at the bottom of this hour.

I think is it the last one or is tomorrow the last one?

Tomorrow's the last one.

Tomorrow's the last one.

Today we talk about Davy Crockett and

Sam Houston, I think, which Sam Houston

was an amazing guy.

I mean, it has to be a governor that you look back on and say,

how could I be half the man that he was?

I mean,

taking on and standing against slavery in the South

at that time was a big deal.

That guy was really brave.

He's amazing.

And as I speak to you this moment, I'm speaking to you from the Sam Houston bedroom in the governor's mansion in the state of Texas.

I'm living in a governor's mansion that Sam Houston lived in.

Wow.

And so the historical connection is profound.

Yeah.

So, Craig, let's talk a little bit about

the border wall.

Do you believe it is actually going to be built?

Oh, I know it is.

And as you were alluding to in your intro,

the request for

bids has already been issued, and people are making bids right now.

The time period for the bids closes here in just a couple of weeks.

The bid will be announced in early April, meaning that the work is going to begin in early April.

So the administration is moving very quickly on this.

This round of bids is what's called the first tranche, and it will involve three sections across the border.

One of the sections is in Texas.

It's near what we call the Presidio region.

It's going to be about 1 to 200 miles southeast of El Paso, Texas.

It's a border crossing area that has been penetrated heavily by cartel activity and it's kind of an urgent need to build the wall in that sector.

The other two new sectors will be in other states.

I think, if I recall correctly, it is in New Mexico and Arizona.

Bottom line, this is the first of what should be three different crunches of adding wall to the border, and this is going to get done.

So, Governor,

are they keeping you in that loop?

Are you being involved in those discussions?

Because it would seem pretty logical for you to be a part of that.

Yes, I just returned from a five-day trip to Washington, D.C.,

visiting with administration officials.

And this is where it was first announced to us, being the governors.

We have an annual governors conference in Washington, D.C.

at the end of February.

And

one of the topics was the border wall, and it was told to us at that time what was going to be taking place at the border.

But frankly, frankly, before that, several weeks before that, I was on a flyover of the border with the new Secretary of Homeland Security, John Kelly, when we were talking about the very issue.

So at multiple levels, in multiple timeframes, I've been informed about what's going on, and they are keeping Texas in the loop.

So do you see a time,

in a short period, relatively speaking, where the border is actually

closed off with a big, beautiful door?

Well, remember this, and that is there are large segments of the Texas-Mexico border and U.S.-Mexico border that already have walls along there.

Several weeks ago, I had U.S.

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, and we flew around, and he got to see for the first time for him the border wall as it currently exists in the Rio Grande Valley.

And so, there are large multi-mile segments of border wall already there that are working very effectively, that serve as a funneling device for those who are trying to cross the border, and especially cracking down on the cartels and what they are trying to do along the border.

How are you going to get around the people who say, you're going to cut my land in half?

Or, I mean, I know this will be a favorite question of yours, the EPA.

The EPA is under a new regime.

One of the people I met with in Washington, D.C.

was Scott Pruitt, the new EPA Administrator, and he is restoring the EPA to its original intent, which is not to be the dictator in chief in Washington, DC, but the EPA is supposed to work in collaboration with the states, and believe me, that's exactly what he's going to do.

The EPA challenges will be greatly diminished.

That aside, we know that private parties will be filing lawsuits along those lines.

But going back to the first part of your question, a lot of the easements, a lot of the rights of ways have already either been purchased or agreements entered into by the United States government.

Remembering this, because people forget, it was under the Bush administration that the border wall, or let's say border fence, they call it different names, was initially entered into.

If I recall correctly, don't hold me to this, but you'll know this and you'll be able to bring in it later.

I think even people like Nancy Pelosi voted in favor of it at the time.

And so there was a border fence in the territory or land needed for that border fence stretching from Brownsville all the way to San Diego.

And many of the segments are already either owned or have

building rights by the federal government.

That said, there are portions that the federal government does not have.

It could be private land.

It could be other parts of land they don't have.

And they will work around that.

But let's go back to your kind of the premise that you talk about here.

That is,

I can't tell you there is going to be a

yard-by-yard border wall stretching from Brownsville, Texas to El Paso, Texas.

There could be segments where there is not a border wall.

But what I do know is from talking to the administration, learning about what their game plan is, and that is they are finally going to regain sovereign control over the border through multiple layers of security.

One of those layers is a wall.

A key factor is that even a wall alone is not going to stop cross-border activity.

You have to have boots on the ground.

So they are dedicating 5,000 more Border Patrol agents, many more ICE agents, so that they have the personnel which are needed, but also the detection equipment, the boats, the planes, cameras, et cetera, so that they are going to regain control of our border.

Governor Abbott, how do we make this?

I mean,

here's the problem that we've had now with the last administration and quite honestly, I fear with this administration is

we're not changing laws and we're not strengthening

the laws.

What we're doing is strengthening the Oval Office and the administration.

So this president can be great on the border, but what do we do?

What do we have at the end of this that in four years or eight years, somebody else doesn't come in and just reverse it all?

Well, you raise an important issue from two perspectives.

First of all, what the Trump administration really is doing is,

as you say, they're not making new laws.

They're finally applying and enforcing the laws as they have long existed.

The reason why we are in the problem that we are in today is because over a period of decades, there has been a gradual erosion in the enforcement of the laws.

And this is what's going to happen when you refuse and fail to enforce the laws and that people will continue to gradually evade them and not abide by them.

And that is what has led us to the position today where a new administration finally says we have to put up a wall.

But

after the current administration,

listen, life changes and you can't say for certainty someone may not come back in and tear down the wall.

Here's what we need to do to make it more effective.

And that is,

if you look at some of the concerns raised about the wall, especially concerns raised by Mexico, what really needs to be done is to establish both a better attitude and a better approach about why we're doing it.

This is not a signal of hostility towards Mexico.

This is a signal of our own concern about protecting our own home.

It is the way that you or your listeners act probably every night.

And that is many of you lock your doors at night.

You don't lock your doors at night because you don't like your neighbor next door.

You want to protect your own safety and your own family, living in

friendship with your neighbors.

And that's the attitude that we need to foster with Mexico.

Mexico is our neighbor, and we need to have a good relationship with Mexico.

And we need to be respectful of them, and they need to be respectful of us enforcing our rule of law and protecting our own sovereignty.

So we can foster that goodwill while building a border.

This will be a border wall.

This will be, and maintain our positive trade.

Listen, Mexico is a huge trade partner with us.

And we can do all of that.

Glenn, this is going to be something that will have a lasting effect, a positive effect for both Texas, the United States, and Mexico.

How do you feel about a tariff on Mexico?

You know, I've heard a lot of analysis about this, and especially when I was in Washington, D.C.

this past week and go through the analysis.

And here is what I am hearing.

This is called the border adjustment tax or the bat tax.

And I'm hearing that the real reason for that is to pay for the other corporate tax reduction.

And when people talk about going through the the mathematical equation of how the border adjustment tax is supposed to work,

it seems like it keeps running into challenges.

And I hear that the administration may not be in favor of it.

I hear that the U.S.

Senate may not be in favor of it.

I hear that businesses may not be in favor of it.

And so it seems like it keeps running into obstacle after obstacle.

And I would say it's tough to predict that the border adjustment tax will actually come into effect.

We're just going to run out of time with you.

So let me just get to the Convention of States.

Passed in the Senate.

Are we going to see this push through?

And do you have any idea what happened to Utah or other states as you're meeting with the border or with the governors?

Are other states jumping on board or is this taking a back seat now?

On the Texas side, remember that in the last

legislative session that we had two years ago, the Convention of States plan passed in the Texas House of Representatives.

So there's every reason to expect that those same representatives will not change their votes.

They will vote the same way they did last time.

And it did not pass in the Texas Senate last time.

So getting it passed in the Texas Senate was a game changer, and it should lead to the passage in the state of Texas of the Convention of States.

Texas will join now a growing number of states that have passed a Convention of States.

And when we do so, it unleashes me and other leaders in the state of Texas to explain to people across the country why this is needed.

Remember this, and I know we're running out of time, but let me make this very important point.

And that is,

I was not one of the leaders or a promoter of the Convention of States up until recently.

What changed me, what brought this out of me, it was very simple.

It was more than a philosophical idea.

It was a practical idea.

My necessity for passing a Convention of States was born out of filing 31 lawsuits against the Obama administration and realizing how not just the federal government, but the federal courts have been broken and had departed from our United States Constitution.

And there's only one way that we as a country are going to restore our Constitution the way that it was intended, and that is for the people of the United States of America to take back our country and to restore the Constitution to what it was intended.

Not rewrite it, remembering this.

You, Glenn, you know, and your listeners know, you can recite what the 10th Amendment says, and that is all power not delegated to the United States in the Constitution is reserved to the states or to the people, period.

And that's the problem.

It doesn't contain the additional clause that it needs that says, and the states have the power to enforce the 10th Amendment.

And we need that additional clause in there so that courts will stop denying states the authority to enforce the Tenth Amendment.

I think one of the best governors in America, in fact, people in Texas feel as the last poll came out last week.

Texans asked their opinion of all of the statewide office holders, including our U.S.

senators who are awful popular here.

Ted Cruz, very popular.

He,

Governor Abbott, was the most popular by a wide margin.

Congratulations on that and thanks for being with us, Governor Abbott.

Thank you so much, Climb.

You bet.

Quickly, he brought up Obama, and one of the reasons why a lot of people figured out the Convention of States was a good idea was Obama.

Well, now a lot of people, those same people, are looking at what Trump is doing and liking much of it it and are no longer passionate about the Convention of States.

Listen to this list.

These states have voted on this already this year.

Kansas, Arkansas, Montana, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming, and Texas.

The only place it passed was Texas.

All of those states, all conservative states, all of those places, well, except in Washington.

Because

they bought into the scare tactic.

Well, you open it up for everything.

We're going to lose a second amount of time.

Listen, I think it's not that.

I I think they think the pressure is off.

But my question to our habit is even if you like everything that Trump is doing, what are you going to do to stop it from all being reversed?

Right.

Next time.

The next president comes in and does the reverse.

If you can do a convention of states, you can solve those problems long term.

Right.

I mean, it's a convention of states.

Has to happen.

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Simply Safe showed off their new security camera.

This is a camera, a Bluetooth camera that connects to the sensors in your alarm system.

And if an intruder breaks in, the camera automatically starts recording, and the system calls police.

It also sends that video right to your cell phone so you have it.

When the police comes, yeah, it's this guy.

This is what it looked like.

This was the break-in.

It also has a lens, lens, kind of a lens cover that comes down so it snaps open when it's triggered.

So nobody can hack into it and

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It's really a remarkable camera, and you're not going to believe the price of the camera.

It's also affordable.

It's unbelievable.

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You know, love

shouldn't be so complicated.

From me,

Aaron Watson.

Aaron is a friend of ours.

I just think he is straight up one of the nicest guys ever.

He is in the category

to me of Michael Bouble.

Just a really nice guy who loves doing what he does and loves his fans.

And he is the first independent artist to ever go number one on the

Billboard album charts.

Be so great to have that happen a second time with this new CPU.

Yeah, because they dismissed it last time.

They were like, well, he didn't release it with any competition.

He's got a ton of competition.

He's got a ton of competition, and it will be a big victory if he can be number one a second time because he doesn't get the support, you know, obviously because no record company, so he doesn't get the support of National Airplay.

This is all built on a guy going around by himself, his family, his wife is his business partner, and Gino is his friend who's been with him forever, and his band has been with him for 10 years, and they all just live in this little town in Texas.

And they all just, you know, travel around, play every place they can.

Literally yesterday, I think they were selling CDs out of the trunk of their car.

Really?

Some of the guys.

Yeah, I mean, it's great.

He opens the Houston Rodeo next Tuesday night.

He's he said Garth Brooks.

Yeah, I mean, that's usually that used to be reserved for George Strait, one of the biggest country stars of all time.

Yeah.

Okay, we have to talk.

Texas Independence is coming up next on the serial, but we have to talk about Jeff Sessions

and what's happening with him.

And

they're saying, could he go to jail over his testimony?

Well, I don't think so, but we'll talk about a top of the hour.

This is the Glen Beck program.

They say everything is bigger in Texas, and that includes the legends responsible for forging its independence.

No discussion of Texas history could ever be complete without exploring the lives of Sam Houston, Davey Crockett, and Jim Bowie.

One fact that makes us want to be Texans feel better is that none of these were born in Texas.

But like the 28 million others who live there today, we all got here as soon as we could.

While Stephen F.

Austin is the man without whom Texas might still be a hot, humid, swampy wasteland, in our first episode, we covered Austin's critical contributions to the founding of the state.

He was, as the Spanish called him, an empresario who was eventually responsible for at least 1,200 American families immigrating to Texas.

But meanwhile, several other men who, like Austin, were from the East, would also make their way to Texas.

This episode, we focus on one of the most complex and fascinating characters in American history.

His name is Sam Houston, who was born in Virginia in 1793.

He was 14 years old when his family moved to Tennessee.

And at the age of 19, Houston joined the U.S.

Army and fought under Andrew Jackson in the War of 1812.

Andrew Jackson is a guy that I like just about as much as Woodrow Wilson.

I contend that the American Republic as our founders knew it died under Andrew Jackson.

Not a good guy.

But Jackson was responsible for the expansion of America in many ways, mainly by killing the Indians.

In the Battle of Horseshoe Bend, Houston was wounded multiple times and just kept going.

He was shot in the Groin area with an arrow, and he bandaged himself up, then led a charge to overtake the enemy fortification and was shot twice more by a rifle.

He was hit in the shoulder and the arm.

His heroics made quite an impression on the future president, President Jackson.

They became friends and close confidants for life.

In 1822, Houston ran for and won election to the U.S.

Congress and in 1827 was elected governor of the state of Tennessee.

But within weeks, the marriage collapsed.

He sent her packing back to her father, and he resigned as governor of Tennessee.

This personal tragedy had great political repercussions.

It ended his opportunity for a traditional political career and set him on a westward course that took him to Texas and the beginnings of the creation of an empire.

During his first term in office, rumors arose that Houston had developed a serious drinking problem and that he was cheating on his new wife.

Because of this, he gave up plans to run for re-election.

He quit politics and for a time, went to live with the Cherokee Indians, where he met and married his second wife, a woman whose heritage was half Cherokee.

Houston was an outspoken advocate for the Indians, which was in direct conflict with his good friend, Andrew Jackson.

In 1832, he traveled to Washington to expose a government fraud against the Cherokees.

While there, Congressman from Ohio, William Stanbury, made accusations against Houston on the floor of Congress.

Houston wrote repeatedly to demand satisfaction on the charges from Stanbury, but never heard back.

Finally, Houston confronted Stanberry in D.C.

on Pennsylvania Avenue and beat him senseless with a hickory cane.

Apparently, a lot of beatings with canes happened back then.

Stanberry pulled his pistol and fired at Houston, but the gun misfired.

Stanberry was seriously injured because of that, and Congress ordered the arrest of Sam Houston.

He was represented in court by Francis Scott Key.

Yes, that guy.

He was a lawyer who authored the national anthem.

But the famous representation didn't help.

But if you're the opposite of Garth Brooks and you have friends in high places, including the President of the United States, President Jackson, and future President James K.

Polk, he was only lightly reprimanded.

Yes, some things in Washington never change.

Unsatisfied with Houston's punishment, Stanberry sued him in civil court and he won a $500 judgment.

But Houston left for Texas without paying a penny of it.

He was later pardoned by Andrew Jackson and the fine was erased.

So what happened to his family?

Well, Houston's Cherokee wife had absolutely no interest going off to Texas with him and she stayed behind in Tennessee.

The hour that Sam Houston crossed the Red River into Texas in December of 1832, he became the most famous human being in Texas.

He was nationally famous.

as a war hero in the War of 1812, as a lieutenant of Andrew Jackson's, as Congressman and flamboyant governor of Tennessee.

And the mere appearance of Sam Houston in Texas guaranteed that Sam Houston would achieve public notice, public notoriety, perhaps.

With a war of independence on the horizon for Texas and Houston's reputation as a war hero after arriving in Texas, he was quickly appointed to commander-in-chief of the Texas Army, even though at the time there wasn't much of an army to speak of.

October 1835, the actual fighting in the Texas Revolution began in Gonzalez as a detachment of Mexican soldiers was beaten back and defeated trying to take back the Gonzalez cannon back to Mexico.

The battle cry of the residents was defiant.

You might have seen it on a flag from Texas recently.

It just says, come and take it.

The Mexicans couldn't.

Texas won.

A small group of 183 men took up the fight at the Alamo in San Antonio as rumors spread of the approach of the 5,000-strong Mexican army began to reach them.

The men in the Alamo were determined to stay and fight, even though Sam Houston told them it's foolhardy, a hopeless cause, and quote, a trap for anyone who dared to defend it, end quote.

As we all know, he was right.

The Mexican army laid siege to the Alamo for nearly two weeks, then attacked and killed everyone inside.

The 183 men inside of the Alamo made the Mexicans pay dearly, killing between 600 and 1,300 men in Santa Ana's army.

Angered, Santa Ana began looking for Sam Houston, and along the way, executed the 400 Texans who had defended the garrison at Goliad, Texas after they surrendered.

As the word trickled out about the fate of nearly 600 Texans killed at the Alamo and Goliad, more and more angry Texans joined Houston's army.

It's one of the reasons why the Russian plans to invade the United States never included a single plan to enter through the Texas border.

You just don't want to make Texans angry.

When Houston finally decided the time and circumstances were right to fight Santa Ana and he had enough angry Texans, he pounced on Santa Ana's forces at 3.30 at the Battle of San Jacinto, winning one of the fastest, most decisive victories in all of history.

The battle lasted 18 minutes, and that is when Texas won its independence.

Houston was wounded again.

His ankle was shattered by a bullet, and when he went to New Orleans for treatment, a huge crowd awaited him on the dock.

One of those in the crowd was a 17-year-old girl named Margaret Lee, who was immediately smitten with the 43-year-old war hero, but she didn't get a chance to meet him.

Three years later, on a business trip to Mobile, Alabama, Houston and Lee met and were formally introduced.

The next year, the two were married, and this time, married for life.

For the rest of Houston's life, Lee remained at Houston's side until he died in his home in Huntsville in 1863.

Houston became a hero of incredible proportions in Texas.

He would be elected president of the new republic twice, and when it became a a state within the United States, he was elected one of the two U.S.

senators from the state.

In 1854, as one of the two U.S.

senators from Texas, Houston performed the bravest political act of his career when he voted against the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would have potentially opened up certain Western territories to slavery.

So he alone among all U.S.

senators from the cotton states voted against the act.

And of course, he was hung in effigy.

He was reviled on street corners and on the political stump.

The state legislature called upon him to resign in Texas.

Although rejected by the Texas legislature, the people remained loyal to Houston and elected him governor in 1859.

Hardly had Texas joined the Union when the issue of secession to maintain the right to hold slaves swept the southern states.

Houston fought with all of his might against the forces of secession and disunion.

But crowds now hooted him down, spat upon him, threatened his life.

The man who had given birth to Texas

was now hated by the people he had led.

He refused to swear allegiance to the Confederacy and was ousted from office.

He had held on to his principles, even when it cost him his political career and his enormous popularity with the people.

However, history would eventually right the wrongs done to his legacy and prove that his judgment was correct.

Sam Houston goes down as the only American in history to serve as the governor of two separate states, a U.S.

Congressman, a U.S.

Senator, and the president of a sovereign nation.

He truly was one of the most unique and fascinating characters in history.

Next time, Texas, today.

Glenn Beck.

I will tell you, I mean, the political courage that Sam Houston had, and he was not popular.

Now, you say the name Sam Houston, and you better genuflect.

There is like only China and Russia has a bigger statue of a political figure, right?

Yeah, the largest statue in the United States.

That's the thing.

Sam Ray Houston's just outside of the largest statue of a politician.

Of a a politician.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah.

It's a gigantic statue.

Is there a bigger statue of anybody anywhere?

Well, a statue of liberty.

Well, I mean, yeah.

Okay.

You have a person, not just a politician, but a person.

When you drive by that thing, it stops traffic.

Yeah, no way.

If you haven't seen it before, it's like, what the hell was that?

And you're in an interstate.

Yeah,

it's like a Mao statue.

It really is.

It's pretty incredible.

It is.

It is a except, unlike Mao, Sam Houston actually stood for freedom.

Right.

And

was

reviled for a long time.

At the end, yeah, for sure.

Because of his stance.

And now...

First of all, greatly beloved, revered,

almost worshipped.

Yeah, almost deified.

And then because of his stance on slavery, hated to the point where he had to.

Which is strange because the people put him in office.

They support him.

Yeah.

And then vote for him.

After he votes against slavery,

They elect him for governor.

And then as soon as he says, no,

I'm not seceding with the rest of the South, they drive him from office.

Got him out of there.

Must have broken his heart.

Oh, yeah.

Must have broken his heart.

Oh, yeah.

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Mercury.

Seven back stretch up.

Hill Country Power Way.

Winds Damn.

Radio Upride Shotgun next to you.

Yeah.

You were smoking camel lights behind the wheel like it's steel.

Hear you say 300,000 miles you can't beat an old beat-up Chevrolet

car

granny's in the chat Well how old is the Chevy car?

You get into that K-Car era of Chrysler and

the K-Car the American remember that yeah the that American remember the Granada?

Yeah.

All those really nasty cars from

the 70s, though.

No.

On the other hand, they had some good ones, too.

The Camaro Corvette and Pala.

They brought back the cars.

Those were, again,

early.

Those were early 70s.

Once the gas crisis hit and they started making them cheap steel, remember?

Yes.

Oh, those were bad cars.

And Chevettes.

And

Chevetto.

And elastic inside.

I mean, I just remember watching the American car industry die was so depressing.

They've come a long way since then.

They've really come back.

Parking cars are good now.

It's amazing to me that Tesla is the leader in the world of self-driving cars.

You know, Mercedes, Audi, Audi, I think, is the leader in trucks.

Now, the self-driving trucks.

Did you see there?

There was an episode of these guys who do car testing, and they talk about cars.

I forget what channel it's on, but they tested driving around the San Francisco area on the same loop.

They did a Mercedes self-driving and a Lexus self-driving.

I mean, not Alexis, but a Tesla.

Tesla.

Tesla and Mercedes.

And the Tesla crushed the Mercedes.

Tesla is the best in the world at it.

Yeah.

I mean, if you want a self-driving car, Tesla is the one that you're going to want.

Plus, they look great.

I don't think there's a better looking car.

And they're fast.

I really want one.

And they're green.

I mean, how long is it going to take before he says, and they're green?

I don't care.

And you get the great tax credit from the government of $7,500 every time you purchase one.

You always have to bring that to the table.

I know.

It really bothers me because other than that, I love those cars.

I mean, the government intervention is really annoying, but I mean, driving them is, it's the most, by far, the most impressive car I've ever driven in my life.

I mean, it's like a rocket ship.

And that's compared to other really fast cars.

I mean, you just, you're, it's a totally different car.

It has no gears.

That's the thing that you have to get used to.

Yeah.

It doesn't shift.

It just takes off.

It's constant acceleration.

And that's Merced.

That's bizarre.

Yes.

The Glenn Beck Program.

Mercury.

This is the Blaze Radio on demand.

Lots of things to talk about, Ron Reagan and the freedom from religion, from

Religion Foundation.

Ash Wednesday was yesterday.

There was a little extra something in the ashes for gays and lesbians.

Some churches were putting sparkles in the ashes to celebrate

gays being able to go to church, I guess, and get ashes on their forehead.

I think they've been able to go to church the whole time.

No, not but not to get ashes on their forehead with sparkles.

No, definitely not.

That's the new thing.

So anyway, we've got that coming up.

Also, Jeff Sessions.

Some Some people, I don't happen to be one of them, some people say he's going to jail for his testimony in front of the Senate.

We'll talk about that and so much more, beginning right now.

I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand, cause we have one,

I will be my drum, I have made my choice, we will overcome, cause we are one.

The fusion

Gentlemen, before we continue this hour, I think I would like to make the case that something is wrong with our friend Pat.

First, he likes Riaz Patel, which

likes,

like worships, like worships.

I believe he said he would marry him.

Marry him.

Marry him.

Well, that's a little issue of both of us.

Don't back off.

Don't back off what you said.

Right.

But if it wasn't for the married thing and the icky sex part, you two would be together like crazy.

Yeah.

And now a country music star.

I know.

Scary.

That is really scary.

I don't know who you are anymore.

Aaron Watson is on the phone.

Are you going to be cutting a song with

Pat, Aaron?

Absolutely.

First of all, good morning, boys.

It's good to hear from you.

Thank you, sir.

And Pat is one of of my new best friends.

And

I know

from listening to y'all throughout the past that Pat used to not like country music, but I found a little chink in his armor, a little soft spot in his heart last week.

And I think I made...

I think I may have made an impact on Pat.

Well,

you definitely did.

If you could have

some sort of guitar riff

that sounded sounded like Boston in all of your songs.

He would

be great.

He'd love it.

So are you going to be number one this week?

Is it going to happen?

I don't know.

I'm telling you right now, it's the ninth inning.

There's two outs.

Our album, Vaquero, just to kind of get y'all up to date, it's currently number two on all genres on iTunes.

It's number one on country.

You guys have made a huge impact.

Here's, we had a big hiccup when it came to our distribution.

You know, we're not a major label.

We don't have a major record label, so we don't get the perks of distribution.

But you know what?

Today's a big day.

I mean, everybody knows today is Texas Independence Day.

And what we have on our side is, first of all, we don't have a major record label, but we have an awesome God.

And all things are...

possible through God.

He's blessed us with the best fans in the world.

And what we've got in honor of Texas Independence Day, we have an entire nation that's filled with people that have a Texas-like swagger spirit and attitude.

And

they believe that this country was built on the freedom to dream big dreams.

And right now, there are major, there are big wigs at major labels right now scratching their head,

wondering how some small town businessman that has a band named Aaron Watson is outselling the major label pop acts that they're pumping millions of bucks into.

And, man, we give God all the glory.

And

I wish I was there to hug you guys right now.

Well, we could probably live with it.

We could probably live without that.

But I tell you, Aaron, when are you performing at the Wednesday Houston Rodeo?

Is that next week?

So the Houston Rodeo is on Tuesday.

March the 7th.

We're actually recording a live CD DVD.

There's still some tickets left.

You can get them online.

But,

man, it's just been an incredible week, boys.

I'm telling you right now.

We should go.

Yeah, we should go.

What time is that?

We should go.

What time is that?

I think we kick off around 8-ish.

Oh, that's way past.

That's like four hours past our bedtime.

We'd have to stay the night and do the show in Houston.

Hey, I will have a tour bus take y'all back home.

We might take you up on that.

We might go.

You know, though, I have to thank y'all.

We've been, we have been,

I have not had,

we've not been doing anything other this week than been pounding the pavement.

We've been selling CDs out of the bus.

And I've had

the most exciting thing for me is I've had people come up to me who before you guys started talking about the record this week, they'd never heard of me.

And now they're downloading my entire back catalog, and they've become overnight fans.

And you guys, as listeners, my music and your listeners go together like peanut butter and jelly.

And I'm telling you, right now,

this is my battle cry.

I mean, I'm on the war path.

I mean,

if we, we want to stick it to the man, I want to give independent people around the country.

I want that number one record.

I want it.

Let's get it.

Aaron, good talking to you, brother.

We'll call you back later today.

Maybe we'll see you down in Houston at the rodeo.

Hey,

our album that we're going to record

is called Divorces and Horses.

Nice.

I like it.

I love it.

I like it.

All right, brother.

Thanks so much.

Dude, God bless y'all.

God bless you.

Aaron Watson,

the reason why we are, I mean, he's a really good guy.

Yeah, nobody deserves this more than he does.

Yeah, but he is a guy who the record company tried to change.

He wouldn't do it.

He stays out on his own.

He listens to his dad's advice and says, listen, you might be 40 before

you hit it.

But if you love it, that's what you'll do.

And he spent the last 20 years just working so hard.

It is only his fans that have made him this way.

Not radio, nothing.

Just his fans have given him a number one record.

The music industry discredited it last time.

Said, well, he had no competition, and that's not possible.

If he's number one again with this record, it will be huge.

And today's the last day that it counts for that number one status.

And the name of the CD is Vaquero.

Just download it now.

You'll love it.

It's really good.

Just a quick breaking news, a couple of breaking news updates.

Yeah.

Dr.

Ben Carson confirmed for HUD's secretary.

58.

He got a bunch of Democrats.

5841, I believe, was the vote.

Also,

Rachel Dolezal.

Remember her?

She was the

identified black.

Yes.

She has acknowledged that she's Caucasian biologically, but identifies as black.

She has changed her name to Nakechi Amare Diallo.

So in case, just in the future, I want to make sure you guys are referring to her accurately.

As Nakechi.

Nakechi Amare Diallo.

Formerly Rachel Dolezal.

Nice.

I'm saying just a little bit.

I don't know how much, but just a little bit of lithium goes a long way.

It doesn't seem related, but it's a little bit.

Yeah, it's not related.

Not related.

I just wanted to.

You were talking about Netichi.

A Nikiti

tomato kamalo.

No, no.

Nikitchi Amare Diallo.

Okay.

And I had a separate thought.

Lithium,

a little bit, goes a long way.

Okay.

It's interesting.

It's interesting you brought it up twice that thought in an unrelated sense.

All right, can we talk a little bit about Jeff Sessions?

This Jeff Sessions thing is

bothersome to me.

And I think Stu and I disagree on this.

I'm not sure.

I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing as you're testifying.

If you're testifying under oath, here's the story.

They're saying now that he perjured himself and he might go to jail.

You know me.

I am, you perjure yourself, you go to jail.

I don't care who you are.

I mean, I have wanted to send people to jail for perjury for a very long time.

We never do it.

I am big on perjury.

I don't think he's perjured himself.

They say that he perjured himself during his Senate testimony when he said he was asked about Russia and Donald Trump.

The transcript here, do you want that?

Yeah, Yeah, go ahead.

So Al Franken asks, if there was any evidence of anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign that communicated with the Russian government in the course of the campaign, what would you do?

He says, I'm not aware of any of those activities.

I've been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I did not have any communications with the Russians.

Okay.

So he did.

He met with part of his Senate duties

is to meet with the Russian ambassador.

And in that time time period, he's met with the Russian ambassador twice.

But personally, you're talking to the Senate.

They know what you do.

They know you're meeting with the ambassadors because of what you do.

He's on the intelligence community.

Your gig, yeah.

Right.

It's your gig.

So you are meeting with those people.

And so for him to say,

no, I didn't meet with the Russians.

I'm thinking that he's thinking to himself, well, I mean, besides the ambassador, that's part of my job.

But I'm not meeting with the people you're talking about.

You know, I'm not meeting with these

other Russians who are talking to us about, you know, hey, how can we help get Trump in?

Boris and Natasha want to help.

I think that's what he meant.

And I'm willing, I accept that from him.

I think I accept it too.

So I don't think we disagree on this at all, but I mean, the reason why the Democrats love this so much is the normal person doesn't make that distinction.

He said he didn't meet with the Russians, and he did.

So it's a nice way to burn him and make the administration look bad.

Now, look, obviously the senator asking the question knows that as part of his duties, he's going to be meeting with ambassadors all the time.

He's met with dozens of them.

That's

part of his pitch.

However, they also know that the American people are going to look at that and say, wait a minute.

They asked him if anyone from the candidate, anyone from the campaign had met with

the Russians.

Then Sessions...

says, I've been part of the campaign and I haven't done it.

Okay, but he volunteers and brings himself into it and and then says he's never met with.

But let's say that I am sitting around in talk radio circles and I'm being questioned by talk radio people.

Okay.

And they say

because there's some big cabal with, you know, Rush Limbaugh and he's, I don't know,

you know, suddenly, you know, wanting to thwart all of the talk radio people.

Okay.

So

and I'm asked, Glenn, have you met with the Rush people?

No, I haven't met with the Rush people.

Well, you just perjured yourself because you meet with the Premier Radio Network all the time.

Well, yeah, but yes, and yes, technically they are the Rush people.

They represent Rush as well, but that's not what we were talking about.

That had nothing to do.

I don't think of the Premier Radio Network as the Rush people.

And again, I think this is the Democrats realize that that perception of you, that looks like you just backed off.

Well, yeah, I mean, I guess I I met with those people, but those they work with other things and they do other things, and we did it in a different capacity.

People don't divide themselves like that in real life, in normal life.

I think they do.

It would be, I wouldn't,

man, you're telling me that if some, if you, if you wanted to, uh, hey, uh, hey, that, you know, have you ever met with, like, if I, if, if your wife came to you and said, no, no, wait, wait, wait.

Because this is a real thing, that's why I tried to come up with a real scenario.

If you were saying, if you were talking to your peers,

to your peers, and they said, Stu, have you met with the Rush people?

If I asked you, have you met with the Rush people?

Right.

What would you answer?

If I was talking to my peers,

to your peers, a group of people that know how Premier Radio works and everything else.

If I had a,

if I had met with someone from Rush Limbaugh's company who came to see there, I would say, I met with them on this, but not on anything else.

Right.

And that's, I think, where.

I'm saying Premiere.

Premiere.

Right.

I mean, this is, you're making a distinction distinction there.

Premier works with Rush Limbaugh, right?

Premier employees are like the.

They are the Rush representatives.

Right, but they work with him.

They're not necessarily Russia's inner circles.

So, right, okay, so this guy is

the guy that they would say the problem with it was the Russian ambassador.

No, that's the issue.

No, because it's not.

That's the person that Flynn got left for talking to.

He was talking to the same people.

So his answer should have been, yes, I

should talk to him about that.

Again, you're right.

Al Franken knows this when he asks the question.

He knows he's met with senators.

It's not about Al Franken.

And Sessions should know, to avoid controversy, to say, well, obviously, as my role in the Senate, I meet with ambassadors all the time, but I did not talk about the campaign at all.

Like, he should know he needs to make that distinction, not for Franken, who obviously knows it.

But we all know these are just show trials.

We all know they're looking for things.

So he probably should have answered the question better, though.

It's ridiculous.

You're right.

Everyone on the committee knows Jeff Session meets with ambassadors.

He's on, what was it, the Foreign Relations Committee.

That's part of his job.

It's part of his job.

Everyone knows it in the Senate.

However, you know, some guy who's a voter and wants to, you know, they're trying to turn the voter, the people against Donald Trump.

That is their goal, obviously.

Well, you want to do everything you can to avoid that.

They're not only doing that, I mean, Jason Chaffetz has said that he should recuse himself because of that.

A couple of Republicans have, and all the Democrats are saying he should step down forever.

Again, I I don't think his answer was a great answer.

That does not mean that he did anything wrong here.

No,

it wasn't a savvy answer by any stretch of the imagination.

You know, yes, you should have been very, very careful with every word that you said, knowing that they're going to trap you.

But again, you're talking to your peers and they know your job.

But again, they didn't even ask about him in this question.

They just asked generally, if anyone else in the campaign had done it.

And he said, well, let me volunteer myself as an example.

No, I never met with him.

I mean, he did not do a good job with that answer.

He's opened himself up to this criticism.

However, obviously we all should understand and realize that's part of his job.

And if we were in a sensible society where everyone covered the news accurately,

we would all set back and say, okay, I think I understand what he was meaning.

Here, let me give you an example of this.

Claire McCaskill, a Democrat, tweeted this.

I've been on the Armed Services Committee for 10 years.

No call or meeting with Russian ambassador ever.

Ambassadors called member of the Foreign Relation Committee.

Okay.

Unfortunately for Claire McCaskill, she's had previous tweets such as off to meeting with Russian ambassador, upset about the arbitrary cruel decision to end all U.S.

adoptions, even in this process.

Or today, calls with British, Russian, and German ambassadors about the Iran deal.

So, like,

if you want to be charitable to Claire,

what you would say is, well, she's talking about she never had a call.

The exact same distinction you make for sessions, you should make for McCaskill.

You notice that Claire McCaskill isn't giving him that leeway because it's all about politics and all about convincing people who don't understand these committees

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Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program.

We're just sitting here talking about Aaron Watson again and the record companies and how these gatekeepers like to keep people down.

And now

nobody's called him.

He had the number one record in the country

as an independent artist, and nobody called and said, hey, you know what?

We could use it.

Yeah, I'm not sure he would go.

I don't know either.

Nobody would do it.

And now

there's

nobody's helping him

on his album.

And he is just this

underdog that is out swinging against these giants.

And I love it.

I love it.

It's great because you've done the same thing.

You've done the same thing.

Yeah, and nobody, you know, no cable company said, oh, look at what Glenn Beck's doing.

We still put them on.

Yeah.

No, they didn't do it.

They did it.

in fact, you know, some tried not to just out of spite.

Yeah, you could make the case, I don't know if

very convincingly, but you can make a case almost collusion

with us and Aaron Watson to keep it down.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program,

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Welcome to the program.

Glad you're here.

So glad that you have tuned in today.

Pat has been

all over me.

All over me.

Got to get to this.

Ron Reagan Jr.

I mean,

here's the son of one of our greatest presidents ever.

And a guy who represented conservatism.

He had incredible faith.

He had great values.

And then it just seems like his son and his daughter, Patty, have tried to spit on that their whole lives.

Doesn't it?

Doesn't it feel like they've done everything they can?

And certainly they have freedom of speech, but

the only reason we even know their names is because of their father.

And

they just, they're the antithesis of him.

And they like to get out there and get in people's faces and show it.

Like Ron Reagan just did this ad for the FFRF, FFRF, the Freedom from Religion Fund.

Hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

Hi, Ron.

I'm unabashed atheist, and I'm alarmed by the intrusions of religion into our secular government.

He's alarmed by the intrusions of secular religion into our secular government.

Can I ask you where?

What influence?

I'd like to know that too.

Seriously, did somebody say the word God?

Was there a prayer?

What do you mean?

I mean, you know, I can talk about the secular government going into the churches and saying, we need all of your, We need all of your

pastoral messages and your sermons.

I mean,

they can see that.

A group like this is going to see everything you can think of, from the name printed, or in God We Trust printed on money to Ten Commandments, battles, to cross,

to commemorate veterans who've died.

I mean, you're going to see all of that.

I'm sure even Hobby Lobby, God forbid,

if they would see that as a religious imposition on government to say

that religions should have to purchase birth control for people who work at

religious hospitals.

I'm sure they would see that as somehow an intrusion.

And they see everything as an intrusion.

This is an advocacy group, which is kind of what you talk about, Pat, because it's one thing to come out with an opinion, to believe something.

I mean, there's no requirement to believe the same thing your dad believed.

But I mean, to use your name, again, the only reason the Freedom From Religion Foundation would want want Ron Reagan as a spokesperson is because his dad was Ronald Reagan.

It's not

cheating on his name.

It wasn't because Ron Reagan was such a great ballet star.

No.

I'll tell you that right now.

It's not, hey, let's get that ballet guy from the 80s.

Ron Reagan or something?

Get him.

And let's have him on the FFRF.

It's despicable.

Hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

Here it is.

A bashed atheist.

And also, why is he a 1960s disc jockey?

That's a good question, too.

Why does he talk like this?

Hi, I'm Ron Reagan, and I'm a Bauje.

And I've got a stacks of wax to play for you coming up in a few minutes, taking y'all up to the big hour of the All Request noon hour.

All right, all right, all right.

We're running late.

Sounding great.

Let's get one of those hot-fitting

or hot-looking, tight-fitting t-shirts after we finish.

We finish with Ron Road.

Let him get it out.

Do you understand, however, that he's an unabashed, unashamed atheist?

And my dad was a religious guy, but I'm not.

And I just want to make sure you know that I'm trading on his fame and his name and his legacy.

But I don't believe what he did, and he was wrong, and I am right.

And I just want to make sure you know that.

And my sister posted Playboy, just to get all that out there.

Hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

Daily God.

I'm a religious atheist.

And I'm alarmed by the intrusions of religion into our secular government.

That's why I'm asking you to support the Freedom from Religion Foundation, the nation's largest and most effective association of atheists and agnostics, working to keep state and church separate, just like our founding fathers intended.

Just our founding fathers.

It is.

That is

the part I have a problem with.

Just like our founding fathers envisioned?

No, no, they didn't.

He's got every right to say what he believes.

No, they didn't.

But he doesn't have the right to

false information.

That's not

what they were after.

They were looking for protection for religion, not from religion, for religion.

That you could have your own religion.

And they would have fought for him, for his right to be an atheist.

That's his religion.

He believes without being able to prove he believes.

in what he believes in.

Okay.

He makes it sound like there's an army of Presbyterians mounted that's going to march on Washington or something and take over the government.

That's not what the founders feared.

What they feared was the opposite.

And by the way, Washington imposing their will on religion.

Right.

And by the way, on his website,

they link the separation of church and state right to the letter that Thomas Jefferson mentioned that particular phrase.

And which clearly identifies that what your interpretation of that phrase

is exactly what he meant.

It's hard to say anything seriously in that voice.

I don't know.

We did it for years.

Yeah, we sure did.

But it's pretty clear what Jefferson was talking about there, the wall between church and state, a wall of separation.

And in there, he talks about how he doesn't want the state to interfere with religion.

Not the other way around.

That's not what he's talking about.

They all, of course, know this.

And they still do commercials in this voice as our founding fathers intended.

We got got to get this last line, though, because it's priceless.

Ron Reagan, lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell.

That's how the ends.

Not afraid of burning in hell.

Well, maybe you should be.

Maybe you should be.

But, you know, it's just unless, because

yes, he can say these things.

Yes,

he should not be confined by what his father believed.

But unless you outwardly despised the man, would you do this?

Would you join an advocacy group to fight against everything you wanted to do?

Because he knows his dad would hate this.

Of course.

His dad would be horrified by this.

He'd be embarrassed by it.

He'd be shamed by it.

And I, I mean.

See, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I mean, I'm trying to think of like my sons or daughters.

If I die and they decided to do something, oh, I will come back and haunt the hell out of them.

But

if they decided to take and stood for everything I was.

If Rafe came out after your death and started talking about progressivism and how great it is,

that would be a slap in the face to you.

Correct.

And what he should say is,

look, I'm not my dad.

Yeah.

I disagree with that.

And I disagree with my dad.

I respected my dad, but I disagree with him.

And then go on with that thing.

And that's by just saying, hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

And no tip of the hat, all you're doing is really truly trading on your father's name.

But if he would have said, hi, I'm Ron Reagan.

And, you know, my dad and I disagreed on a lot.

And religion was one of them.

I have no problem with that ad.

I have no problem with that ad other than the falsehood.

But

it's,

as a dad,

it bothers me what a son can do

to a reputation.

And as a son,

I would hope I wouldn't do that to my dad.

And it does very little to his reputation, right?

It's not going to derail any movement.

This is like his.

He's just making money on his dad's.

Exactly.

It's one thing to disagree with your dad.

Absolutely fine.

It's one thing to even be believed strongly enough to join an activist organization against something that your dad believed.

I think that's totally fine.

Totally.

To be the national spokesperson for that organization is really pushing it.

But then

when you realize, like, it would be one thing if Ron Reagan was a well-established

expert in this area for a hundred million years and was a guy who, you know, I don't know, a professor of studies.

I don't know, maybe he is.

I don't know.

But I know him as a guy who's a, it was like on MSNBC.

And the only reason MSNBC would even in theory put this guy on is because here's a guy with a last name Reagan saying liberal things.

And the same thing here, this is.

No, you've seen who they'll put on TV.

They will put on any.

I'm saying

that.

They wouldn't put him on.

They'd put on some other weirdo, but they wouldn't put put him on when they said his name is Reagan.

And the same thing happens here, in which you're using the only reason the Freedom From Religion Foundation would be interested in him as a spokesperson.

You hear how he speaks.

He's not exactly the greatest communicator of all time.

The only reason they'd put him in this role is because his name is Ronald Reagan.

It's the only reason, and he has to know that.

And to use that power that only he has to work against everything your father stood for only seems to be sane if you hated the man.

All right.

Thank you very much.

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You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

The Glenn Beck Program.

I have something for the Patton Stew Show.

My wife just

broke some news to me.

She said there is new bluebell ice cream flavors out.

Oh, wow.

Coconut cream ice cream with coconut flates and fudge swirl.

I mean, I think there's ice cream.

And ice cream cone, vanilla with chocolate-covered cone pieces,

peanuts, and chocolate sundae sauce.

In the time for spoons, patents do every day.

We try a new junk food product.

We've made it into.

We've tried those?

Not yet.

No, but we need to.

We've tried to

graduate to the big show.

Oh, really?

Are you calling ours a small one?

Well, is that what you're calling it?

A little bit.

I mean, you know,

it's been an off-off off Broadway for a while.

You might want to graduate that to the big show.

Only insomuch as it's not even in New York.

Or in Northern Point.

Or in Iowa.

You're right.

That's why I said it's off, off, off, off, off Broadway.

But yeah, we know where we've heard from it way off.

Yeah.

Yeah, I would love that.

You want to do that on the show?

Maybe you can do it tomorrow.

No, that'd be great.

Ice cream?

I think it's an important public service.

Right.

For those listeners who happen to have this particular ice cream in their area.

I'll give you another public service we can do right now.

And that's to share the information that's spilled out of Alex Jones because it's important.

Oh, go ahead.

I mean, a lot of people don't understand what's going on in the world.

He does.

Why do do you pay attention to him?

Oh, these clips are so funny talking about it.

Somebody's always sending me clips.

And this one is

so incredibly deep and profound.

All right.

We had to share.

The elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe, and they want to know all this.

Some are good, some are bad, some are a mix.

Right.

But the good ones don't ever want to organize.

The bad ones tend to want to organize because they lost after power.

Powerful consciousnesses don't want to dominate other people.

They want to empower them, so they don't tend to get together until things are really late in the game.

Then they come together.

Evil's always defeated because good is so much stronger.

And we're on this planet, and Einstein's physics showed it, Max Planck's physics showed it.

Oh, there's at least 12 dimensions.

And now that's why all the top scientists and billionaires are coming out saying it's a false hologram.

It is artificial.

All these guys are coming out and saying it's a false hologram.

Remember, how many times have you seen that?

Somebody said it's a false hologram.

I can't count all the times I've seen that lately.

They're scanning it and finding sensation points where it's artificially projected and gravity's bleeding in to this universe.

How many times have we been talking about the gravity bleeding into our universe?

Can I just

say, look at the picture that is on the screen behind you.

That's our boy.

Have you seen that before?

That's our boy, yeah.

Yeah, he's going shirtless a lot.

A lot of topless action from Alex.

Can I tell you something?

It would be like me going shirtless.

It's not a good look.

No.

It's not, but he somehow believes it is.

Yeah.

He believes it.

What was the story you were telling me the other day that he is like he was in a conference room?

Some reporter?

That was a pretty interesting story, I thought.

Somebody was in.

Oh, it was Der Spiegel.

Derspiekel

was at his place to interview him, I guess, in Austin, right?

And so they're doing a story on him, and he goes over to a big, they're having, I don't know if they do this every day, if it was just for the interview, but they had

a big mound of barbecue.

Right.

Platters of barbecue, chicken, beef, and sausages are set out on the table for the conference room.

Alex Jones piles it up,

piles food onto a plastic plate, and then suddenly takes off his shirt without explanation.

You know what barbecue sauce to get all over your shirt?

Like, you don't do that every day at work.

Right.

Everybody does it.

There's barbecue.

With his bare torso, he sits there and shovels meat into his mouth.

A caricature of manliness, but also a show of power to the reporters sitting in front of him.

He can do as he pleases.

Then Jones gets up and holds out a sausage.

Wanna suck?

He asks.

Wow, is that weird?

Is that weird?

I mean, just a bizarre dude.

I've seen your hernia.

But there's more here.

Oh, that's what they call dark matter.

Dark matter.

So we're like a thought or a dream that's a wisp.

It's all coming out.

They're proving it now.

They're proving it.

It's all coming out.

They're proving it.

It's all coming out.

Like everybody knows this.

It's just a known fact.

They're proving this.

It's all coming out.

Or just a wisp in a computer or some God's mind.

There's like this sub-transmission zone of the third dimension that's just turned over the most horrible things, is what it resonates to.

What?

And it's trying to get up into the third dimension that's just a basic level consciousness to launch into the next level.

Obviously.

Right.

I mean, obviously.

Even having mind-altering drugs

in the past.

Because which drug would you say if you had to predict just LSD?

LSD.

I mean, sensations and images that seem real, though they are not.

That's LSD.

It does seem like, I mean, that's one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard.

It's as if we just took a bunch of words separately and piled them all into a blender.

Makes no sense.

We should try that tomorrow.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Mercury.