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I've known Pat

since 1989.

Never saw this coming.

Right before we went on the air, he said.

Go ahead, Pat.

I forget what I said.

Oh, no, no, no.

No, but it's seared in all of our memories.

I said I liked La La Land.

What?

We win what's going on two weeks ago because we got sick after we haven't talked about it.

You know, we never talked about that musical we saw, Glenn.

That's what he said.

That's what he said beforehand.

You know, we haven't talked about that musical we went to see, and I'm like, musical that we went to see?

What are you talking about?

Well, we didn't go alone.

It wasn't like a, you know, we weren't holding hands as dates.

We actually had our wives with us.

But I thought that was a really good movie.

I thought that was a...

What is that?

You leave for two days.

You come back.

Is this the same pat?

I am in another dimension.

No.

I've entered another world.

Right.

Because my wife saw it and she did not really like it.

Really?

Yes.

Why?

I don't know.

I mean, I honestly, once it's, when I heard the word musical, I stopped listening to conversations about it.

But

I am shocked to hear, I mean, because I'm not surprised to hear Glenn likes it.

Right.

Obviously, right up his alley makes perfect perfect sense.

But Pat Gray.

I know.

What?

What has

Pat Group?

Well-rounded individual.

No, you're not.

No.

Very detaste.

No, you do not.

No, you do not.

He was in here yesterday while you were gone, Stu, and he was ranting off the air something about Boston and how they went wrong in like the 1970s.

Every time, because we'll go out to lunch sometimes after the show, and every single single time I get into his car, the first thing that happens is Boston blaring through the speakers until he he awkwardly like reaches over and turns it down really fast because he turns the car off with Boston at first.

It may not be Boston.

It could be Foreigner.

It could be Foreigner.

That's really period.

That's the edits.

Right.

Or

strangely now, La La Land.

The soundtrack.

Yes.

Soundtrack to La La Land.

I thought it was enjoyable.

It wasn't, you know, it wasn't so musical, it was an opera.

Well, those are different, but I'm going to give that to you.

I I know what you mean.

You know, because like, what was it?

Was it Les Miz?

The movie that was just non-stop singing.

It was just a little, okay, I've had enough.

That's what Les Miz is.

Yeah, I know, right?

And I'd had enough

five minutes into it.

But this, you know, it was enjoyable, except they didn't, they didn't want, well, actually, I don't want to blow it for anybody, but the ending is sad.

I think the ending is beautiful.

I think the ending is great.

I think it's perfect.

Yeah, Glenn has already blown that, I think, on the show.

No, I don't think I have.

I don't remember him blowing that.

What?

She gets can't?

Oh,

no.

Oh, no.

Now I've said it.

Canned goods.

Canned goods.

She gets canned.

So my daughter went to see Manchester by the sea, and she said, That's really sad

anyway.

Yeah, she, I don't know.

And she said,

Dad, have you seen Manchester?

I said, no.

And she said, oh, my gosh.

And she tears up.

You have to see it.

And I went, you just kissed.

You just gave it the kiss kiss of death.

I am not going to see it.

And she's like, no, dad, you have to.

It's so beautiful.

So beautiful.

You will just love it.

And I said, it's sad, isn't it?

And she said,

tears, tears welling up.

Yes.

It's really sad.

I cry every time I think about it.

I stood outside of the theater and I cried for 10 minutes.

And I'm like, ringing it.

Why would I go?

Why would I go?

Yeah.

I don't want that in my life anymore than it already is.

Right, I know.

I mean, like, everything in my life, everything in my life is like that.

Why I want to go and escape.

Right.

It was that movie a few years ago,

Marley and Me.

Do you remember that stupid movie?

Yes.

With the dog.

Oh, my God.

And I remember walking out of the theater and that, like, why did I just do that to myself?

It was like the saddest.

Especially for like a dog movie.

Right.

You know what I mean?

It's like, that is just saying to you, look, guys, we got around a table.

We said, how can we play on people's emotions?

Somebody said, let's do a cat movie.

Somebody said, no, let's kill a dog.

What about a hamster?

Or the dog won.

The dog won.

And all we've done is just built a script around playing on your emotions.

Right.

I mean, like, you know, if you're going to go see Schindler's list, okay, you know, it's going to be sad, but there's a real reason to see it.

You want to see the history and all that other.

There's some uplifting moments.

Well,

I mean, Schindler's list, I don't recall those.

Really?

No.

No, even at the end, when he's on the railroad tracks, he's bummed.

He's like, I could have done more.

I mean, there, I know.

It's not

a lot.

Maybe in the previews you're remembering.

I don't know.

I think you might be thinking, Life is Beautiful, where you realize halfway through, no, not so much.

Not so much.

We've lied to you in the title of this movie.

Right.

Life is not beautiful.

It's a concentration camp.

Has anybody but me seen Legacy or 24 Legacy yet?

No,

I have not seen it yet.

Okay.

Any good?

Yeah, it's compelling.

Just like he said he was hooked up.

It's like Keith Sutherland.

Well, we watched, we were kind of thinking, like, ah, they're making another one without Kiefer Sutherland.

It kind of sounds stupid.

And then one day on Pat and Stew, we played the trailer for it, and in a minute and a half, we were back into it.

Yeah, definitely.

It looks like a problem.

I will tell you this.

There might be a problem at CTU.

Oh, no.

No.

There might be a problem in the government.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And there might be a problem with some of the people who are in the middle of the crawl raiders.

No.

Oh, gee.

I wonder if they're big oil companies.

They're definitely not Islamic.

That was the problem with.

You just turned me back off.

I'm not interested in that.

After eight seasons of that with the original, I was pretty done with it.

Yeah.

But I must be ready for it again.

I think more than that, didn't it?

I think seven or eight.

Yeah, really?

Yeah.

Wow.

And we made it all the way through.

I didn't, but

many did.

I made it to the end of the day.

Have you guys?

Has anybody seen the new pope?

No, is that the new pope?

It's on HBO.

Started watching it the other day, and I'm like, oh, I don't like this at all.

Because it seems like this young pope is,

you immediately think he's really a bad guy.

Like, really, really a bad guy.

And the more you watch it, the more you think, now, wait a minute, maybe he's the really, really good guy who's taking down all of the

trappings and the, you know, like it's, it's, it's really weird.

Is it a modern day

setting?

Modern day setting,

Jude Law.

And if you're a Catholic, you can't watch it because it'll just, it'll set your hair on fire.

You know, it's the typical.

You mean it's not friendly to Catholicism?

No, it's not

typical, yeah, typical, you know, not friendly to Catholicism thing.

But if you're not Catholic, you don't have that automatic barrier against, you know what I mean?

But you still, you're still like, I not

sure exactly what's happening.

So it's one of those things.

I'm like three episodes into it, and I'm like,

I'm starting to get invested in this.

And if it turns out that he's really, that this, all this is, is a Catholic bash, bash, I'm really going to be more pissed than even the Catholics.

But it might be, and it might be.

That's what it usually is.

I know.

This is just so bizarre.

It's just so strange that I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.

And you said it's HBO?

HBO.

So, I mean, it's got all the earmarks of just,

let's just bash the church and

bash religious people.

Does it center around the priest scandal?

No, it's got part of that in there, and he keeps pushing it off.

And that's one of the things you're like, okay, wait a minute.

Why is he pushing the priest scandal off?

But then you, I'm kind of getting the feeling that he's, because he's hunting for bigger fish.

He's like, this isn't.

He'll say things that are crazy.

It's kind of, you know, remember the last temptation of Christ?

Yeah.

Okay, and it set everybody's hair on fire because the last temptation happened on the cross.

This was the idea that the last temptation happened on the cross.

And, you know, Jesus had children and a normal life, but that was just what Satan was showing him.

Satan was showing him, hey, you could have all this.

And in the end, all that happened, you know, the whole movie happened in just a fraction of the second on the cross.

And that was what Satan was showing him, hey.

Right now,

you can end this and you can have all of that.

And his last temptation, Jesus said no.

That was really controversial at the time, right?

Yeah, and it shouldn't have been because the point was that's what Satan showed him.

And Jesus said no.

And I think it might be going in that direction, that this guy is saying things and doing things

that look really bad on the outset, but it's only because he's rooting out real bad stuff.

HBO, Jude Law.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know.

Oh, it'll turn around.

It'll come around.

I'm sure it's going to be fine.

Of course it will.

It's going to be good for the Catholic Church.

Yeah, no.

Or faith in general.

Yeah.

Faith in general.

So

I've been having a problem I want to talk to you about.

I'm losing touch.

with

people more and more every day.

We started a a segment with La La Land.

Of course, you're losing all the people.

That's all that was only, you know, what?

That was only deflection.

I was only trying to deflect some of the stuff that I want to talk about.

I'm not understanding

the self-imposed ignorance of people right now.

For instance,

I tweeted,

somebody said, oh, Glenn Beck, grow a spine.

You know, we have to defeat evil.

And I said, my spine is getting stronger and stronger every day.

You don't defeat evil with evil or hate with hate.

Only light and love defeat hatred, evil, and error.

Now, what does that mean to you, Stu?

Do we ever pick up a gun against Hitler?

I want to say yes.

It's funny.

What, ISIS?

You know, you're going to talk about the worst groups on Earth.

You know, is love the key?

Obviously, there is an element of that long-term, which is really more on their side and that they need to find it.

But, I mean, you wrote a book called It Is About Islam, right?

Like, this is not this is not

something that you've taken lightly over.

So listen to some of the comments.

Okay, Chubby.

Well, that's.

And I wrote back.

I said, hey, I mean, you know, that's easy.

I get it.

I get it.

Mocking me my way.

Listen to this one.

Try waving that Christmas sweater at the Berkeley mob and tell us how it goes for you.

Oh, so they remember the Christmas sweater book, but not the much more recent It Is About Islam book, right?

Or it's not much liars, they know the Christmas sweater, so they know that's about redemption.

They know that's the Christmas story.

That's obviously a listener that you know the Christmas sweater

and you don't understand or you're mocking the meaning of the Christmas sweater

behind that.

I mean, if it was stunning to me, uh, Glenn, you've officially lost your effing mind.

That's from a guy who has the, you know, blue line police shield as his avatar.

Then some stuff I can't really repeat.

Start a search to find Glenn Beck sometimes.

It seems he's risen to a sandal robe wearing door-to-door dribble salesman.

Read up, God destroyed evil many, many times.

Okay, I got that one.

I would suggest reading up on yourself and getting the log from your own eye.

I'm trying to do that.

And I think he has better information than he needs to read articles about himself to know about himself.

He was there for all the things.

Thank you.

Your spine is strong only because men stronger and braver you are willing to defend the principles that you only pay lip service to.

Bonhoeffer was killed by the Nazis.

Men with guns defeated them.

The left aren't the English and gandhi or us and mlk and you know it

i think that one is actually advocating guns against the left

there are so many people

that i i tweeted on this is a continuation from sunday because i tweeted we have to take the hate out of our own hearts now that's not saying that about you.

That's saying about me.

I got to take the hate out of my own heart i have to find a way to love the people who absolutely hate me and that is really hard and i'm really trying i'm struggling with these things because i think it's self-imposed ignorance i think these people many of them know better they know better they know that we're not talking about defeating the nazis or isis

i'm not talking about that I am talking about how are you going to, let me ask you this.

For those on the right and the left

I heard Maxine Waters and we want to play this in a second she's now mentioning impeachment what is that going to do that's going to inoculate Donald Trump for all time on impeachment that's all that's going to do and it's going to drive the wedge between the left and the right again now it's Maxine Waters so I get it

Let me ask the protesters.

You're going out and you're protesting what exactly?

You were protesting the week he was elected.

What do you think that's going to do?

Does that make you look like you're a reasonable person?

At least to half the country?

You don't even have anything to protest.

At least that time, you didn't have anything to protest.

You were just out protesting.

You're setting Starbucks on fire.

Do you think that's going to win anybody over?

More importantly, what have we we learned about Donald Trump?

Donald Trump punches back.

It's why a lot of people like him.

He punches back, and what does he say?

If you punch me, I punch back

twice as hard.

So we know every time you punch him, he will escalate.

He will punch you back twice as hard.

So you're going to riot.

You're going to do these things.

You're going to threaten impeachment.

And what do you think he's going to do?

Roll over?

He's going to punch you back twice as hard.

And then for you to survive, you have to punch him back.

And then what is he going to do?

He's going to punch back twice as hard again.

I mean, where does this end?

I don't think people are realizing,

you know, it's like the woman told me in Poland.

The righteous didn't suddenly become righteous.

They just refused to go over the cliff with everyone else.

Look at the cliff you're headed towards.

Where does it end?

If you're punching on both sides and you're claiming that we have to hate the other side and the other side is an enemy that must be destroyed,

there's no place to go except civil war.

There's no place to go.

And I don't think the vast majority of people who are listening, the people who are not listening, the people who are for Trump and the people who are against Trump are really seriously wanting a civil war.

I think most people want this to end.

Stop it.

So how do you get there?

You get there by paying attention to principles only, not policies.

and removing the hate in your heart.

Nobody can punch you.

If you don't care,

nobody punches you.

I know, I know.

I know.

It's never worked before, except every time it's tried, every time somebody is seriously dedicated to it,

it wins.

Just not in the way that maybe you want to win, or Jesus wanted to win, or Gandhi wanted to win, or Martin Luther King wanted to win.

Bonhoeffer won.

Those guys all may be dead, but they won.

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Walking over to the audio vault, a couple of things you need to hear.

First of all, here's Maxine Waters on impeaching President Trump and his relationship with Putin.

And knowing that, he's responsible for supplying the bombs that killed innocent children and families in

Aleppo.

She She had to be told by Nancy Pelosi

where that was happening.

Seriously, I don't think she knows.

Well, I really don't.

Maybe Aleppo,

maybe, but the next one, definitely not.

And the fact that he is wrapping his arms around Putin while Putin is continuing to advance into

Korea.

Into Korea.

He is leading him to the news.

He's advancing into

He's into Korea.

He shouldn't do that.

Well, I mean, I was okay with Korea, but when he went into Thailand and Taiwan, and then he got into Tai Chi, then

that's where I said, okay, enough.

Enough.

When he started to cross the border into Siam,

man, I was upset.

Because the king was...

I think he was singing at the time.

Yeah, he was.

He was singing.

He was.

And his song had to stop

because of the invasion of Siam.

That ruined Arkansas.

Putin is not going into Korea.

Maybe you meant Crimea.

I don't think she did.

I honestly don't.

No, I think somebody said Crimea around her, and all she heard was the area

and thought it was Korea.

Thank goodness she didn't think it was diarrhea.

Right.

Because it could be a matter of time.

And he's going into diarrhea.

Oh, my God.

At least Korea and Crimea share a couple of letters.

It's closer than she normally gets.

Yes.

We can give her that.

Yes.

That's actually a pretty good moment for Maxine Waters.

So bad.

That's a good moment.

That's so bad.

It's one of her better ones.

I mean, good is probably not the right word.

Now,

let's listen to President Trump from yesterday.

And all across Europe, you've seen what happened in Paris and Nice.

All over Europe, it's happening.

It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported.

And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.

They do.

Okay, so terrorist acts are happening all over the place, and the press is covering that up.

They're just ignoring that.

That's what he's saying.

Because he starts it with, you've seen it.

Well, where have we seen it?

If they're not covering it, where have we seen it?

How do we even know about it?

Right.

Infra wars.

It's one of those things where there's two ways to go on this, right?

You can kind of criticize, like, you can go and answer what he said here, which is that the press isn't covering these attacks and

address the claim straight on,

which is what media sources are doing today.

And we can go through the details of that.

The other side of it is, do you believe that Trump is bringing this up, knowing that the media will come after these claims and make the story...

The story people will absorb is not that Trump made a mistake about the coverage, but that the fact that there's been 78 terrorist attacks, right?

Like people will start thinking about terrorism and that will back his policies as far as, like, is he, again, the master manipulator, or is he just blurting things out that makes no sense?

I mean, because NBC, who you'd think would be the worst at carrying, covering terrorist attacks, went back and did this.

They released the list of 78 terrorist attacks.

They had covered 57 of the 78.

So 57 of the 78 they had actually covered.

The 21 that they did not cover were smaller incidents in places like Egypt, Bosnia, or Bangladesh, resulting in the deaths of total of eight people in the 21 attacks.

So you would understand why a national news source

might not address

a terrorist attack in Bangladesh that killed no one.

That wouldn't be something necessarily that they would cover on the national American news.

But

again, doesn't he win this?

Doesn't he win this story?

He wins this news cycle if what we're talking about is 78 terrorist attacks.

Now, of course, I agree with him that it is a serious problem, unlike much of the media, so I'm happy that he wins this news cycle.

But it's a strange, it's a different strategy, right?

If it's a strategy and it's not just him blurting things out that he saw on InfoWars, which a lot of people are also accusing him of,

it's probably brilliant in some way of manipulating the media.

On the other side of that, if he's saying these things and he actually believes them, it's troubling because they, how else would we know about Paris and Nice?

San Bernardino is the reason he came out and did the Muslim ban.

It was covered

all over the place.

That was covered immensely.

The only reason he went into the Muslim ban thing in the first place was all the coverage and the seriousness of that incident, which we all took very seriously.

So I don't know.

Which one do you believe?

He blurted it out.

Blurted it out.

Just blurted it out.

Yep.

Because he does win these things this way.

I mean,

instead of the negative press he's been getting and protests and things things like that, it's now directed to how much terrorism there is, and many of his supporters will believe that it wasn't covered at all.

And doesn't that, doesn't he win a news cycle with that?

If the question is...

I don't know, it's a pretty big leap for people, I think, to

swallow that the press doesn't want to cover terrorist attacks.

Oh, no, I don't think that's hard to swallow at all.

I don't think very good things about the mainstream media in general.

But when there's a serious attack let me cover it let me play it another way we see it all the time maybe play it the other way um maybe he he wasn't talking about those but he was talking about the terrorist attacks like at fort hood which was workplace shooting right that sort of vibe i think totally relates to people particularly conservatives yeah i thought it was that again that it was covered so like he's saying they didn't cover it what really happened i think in the minds of conservatives did they cover it accurately yeah take take orlando they they covered that, but did they cover that accurately?

Right, they tried everything they could

to make it not seem like terrorism and more like some shooter.

Correct.

They don't want to cover

homophobia.

And again, like he, the way he says it

is, I mean, plainly is not true.

However, if you take what do you think, if you can, you can come up with a way where it

sort of is true and relates to people.

And

I mean, I think that's the way people take it, right?

I don't think the President of the United States should have the standard of literal.

I mean, plainly,

the whole literal serious debate that's happened over the past few months, the President of the United States needs to be able to say what he means literally.

It can't be something that we all have to reach into the back of our mind and come up with some justification as to what he's saying.

However,

I think when you talk about media strategy, it probably works.

I think people do realize that the media is oftentimes not

honest with the way that they handle terrorist attacks.

They do everything they can to define.

I mean, I listened to a debate this morning on CNN with a Republican representative in which they were trying yet again to equate the Timothy McVeigh bombing to the state of Islamic terrorism today.

Don't white people do this too?

And it's like,

how on earth can that debate still be alive at this point?

And people see this happen over and over and over again, and they relate to this.

So what you're talking about, though, is exactly what I talked about in the last half hour, which is intellectual honesty.

Do we have any intellectual honesty anymore?

Is anybody looking at these things

and trying to be intellectually consistent and honest?

I think there's a great hunger for it.

Real hunger for it.

I hope so.

You know, it's certainly the only reason any of us are in this business, right?

I have

no need for shows that come out and just tell me what I want to hear every day.

I'd rather be challenged and think about these things in that way.

You want to at least have people who are attempting to hit the standard of intellectual honesty.

And if you don't have that, what do you have?

Nothing.

I mean, there's no point in doing this.

There's no point in doing this if what you're doing is you're going to a site or whatever that's just going to kind of further what you believe at any cost.

And that means that's, I mean, the the left has a zillion of those.

People like to criticize the right for doing it now because obviously Trump's in power and now everyone all of a sudden cares about it again.

But the left has all this as well.

Look at the people out there protesting.

They're nuts.

Many of them are basically, when you talk about, they're factually insane.

And I don't mean like the fact is that they're insane.

I mean like when it comes to relationship with the facts, it's like insanity.

It's a whole nother world, a whole other language.

I agree with you.

I agree with you.

All right, right, Valentine's Day.

Can I ask you,

who's worried about what we're getting for Valentine's Day?

No one.

Nobody.

This holiday pisses me off.

Me too.

It really pisses me off.

You get a card.

I never want a card.

I don't even get a card.

You don't even get a card.

You get nothing.

Nothing.

Do you get her something?

No.

Yes, I do.

Of course I do.

I have to.

I have to.

But it's a one-way.

This is a one-way holiday.

There's no doubt about it.

You don't even get

something very basic just to kind of like, so she can say she got you something too.

But at least

will she go out with you for a meal you pay for?

She would do that.

That's nice.

Yeah, she would do that.

What do you get for Valentine's Day?

We usually get something

nice.

You get the card.

You get a little gift maybe from Jeffy.

No.

Nothing.

Jeffy.

Oh, I get a card.

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Welcome to the program.

There's a new poll out.

It's a good one, too.

Yeah, it's a really good one.

I'm going to make you feel really good on

how people on the Democratic Party, in the Democratic Party, feel about Christians.

Well, it's genius.

According to a new CBS poll, so it's not some rinky-ding thing, a majority of Democrats said they believe that the religion of Islam is dangerous.

They'll give us that.

But other religions are just as bad.

66% of Democrats believe when it comes to other religions, and they define it Christianity, Judaism, Mormonism, they're responsible for just as much violence as Islam.

The casserole killings from the Mormons have got to stop.

Well, that's all part of the larger Jell-O-Jihad.

And I think

we did declare a Jell-O-Gihad in 1978.

The Bowling Green massacre, the Jell-O-Jihad, the Bowling Green Massacre, was

just unbelievable.

Come on.

Name one.

I wish these polls would challenge people.

Really?

Can you name a Christian massacre or a Mormon or a

Jewish massacre?

The Pat poll would be awesome.

Like, you'd ask the normal question, and Pat would just be following up.

Oh, really?

Name one, you idiot.

You moron.

That would be really interesting.

That's not the way scientific polling typically works, where you have the interviews.

But it interviewed.

But maybe it should.

I like that.

14% of these Democrats believe Islam is more violent than Christians.

Wow.

Or Mormons or Jews.

I mean,

that's mind-boggling.

That's just, you're just, it's denial of reality.

Isn't that where we are?

Yeah, it is.

It's just deny the reality and choose your own.

You know, choose your own ending.

Really weird.

It is where

that woman in Poland said we would be.

Just don't go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

You don't have to do anything special.

You just don't go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

And that's really what's happening.

I mean, I can't believe I'm watching that in real time.

People are going over the cliff of insanity.

What is this Bowling Green massacre that Kellyanne Conway talked about?

So

it's, I mean, I think, you know, her case on it is she just made a mistake.

So she said, if you didn't.

No, she said she missed one word.

Right.

That was the mistake.

So she said it was a Bowling Green massacre.

No one will talk about the Bowling Green massacre.

And they won't because

there hasn't been a Bowling Green massacre.

I only saw one of the clips.

I saw reports that said she said it on a few different shows.

Multiple times.

And so, but

what she said was, no, what I meant was the Bowling Green attackers.

Now, there also wasn't an attack in Bowling Green.

What she seems to be referring to is there were two

people with terror ties arrested in Bowling Green.

And they were, I believe, Iraqi refugees.

And they were arrested.

The terror ties they were arrested with was not about attacking the United States, but trying to collect arms for ISIS overseas.

Were they Iraqi Mormons?

They were Iraqi Mormons, yes.

Mormon Christian Jews?

Yes.

Those are dangerous.

Oh my gosh.

You crossbreed Mormon Christian Jews.

You don't want none of that.

No, you don't want none of that.

But in this interview I was telling you about this morning on CNN where they were going after this representative.

And he's like, look, you know, we've seen all these terrorist attacks and we have to make sure that we're being careful.

And her answer was essentially, well, what about white people?

You don't care about white people having terrorist attacks.

And his response was, look, I mean, look, we've had, obviously, we care about all attacks, but the preponderance of them, of the evidence, points to Islamic distributism.

And she goes, well, what about that attack

with a white person killing six Muslims at a mosque?

And so that was, first of all,

the only example she could come up with.

Second of all, it was in Canada.

It wasn't even in America.

So the examples they have is one attack in Canada, and then she goes to Timothy McVeigh.

Those are her first two.

Eventually, she got to Charleston, which I think is, I'm totally fine calling that a terrorist attack.

However,

you're talking about a

long, a large swath, thousands of attacks around the world that have happened with Muslim extremism.

Timothy McVay committed those attacks in the name of agnosticism?

Yes,

deep name of agnosticism.

He's not Christian.

He was not Christian.

No, even MSNBC, by the way, reported that.

Did they?

That he wasn't Christian.

That he was not Christian.

And he didn't do that in the name of Christianity.

No, he did not.

Wow.

I mean, but again, it was a white extremist, is the way they were doing it.

But again, there have been white Muslims, Muslim extremists who have done attacks.

We've seen that before.

It's just a ridiculous argument.

And when you can't agree on the basics, how can you go any further?

You kind of can't.

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One of the Patriots has decided not to go to Washington, D.C.

to meet with Donald Trump.

You know,

didn't a hockey player say that he wasn't going to, after the Stanley Cup, say he wasn't going to go meet President Obama?

Of course, that was only.

He only made it to a racist thing.

Yeah, that was only a racist thing.

So I'm not sure if this is racist or not this time.

And Mike Lee is joining us.

He has met with the Supreme Court nominee and has a lot to say.

And I also want to talk to him a little bit about the Muslim ban as well.

Mike Lee, the senator from Utah, joins us right now.

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Senator Mike Lee.

welcome to the program, sir.

How are you?

Doing great.

Thanks so much, Glenn.

Can we start with quickly on the Muslim ban and

whether that is legal or not?

What is your opinion?

The short answer is the president has authority to suspend the entry of certain aliens coming into this country.

He has that authority under Section 212F of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Now, there's an amendment to that that came about several decades after that one was put in place that some have read to suggest the President can't do this.

But when you read the language on that one, it deals with visa issuance, not suspension on entry, and it deals with visa issuance by those who issue thesis, not by the President.

That's why, on its face, I can't look at this order and say it's illegal.

That's why the order, to the extent it causes legal problems, will present legal problems only in the way that it's enforced.

In other words, we'll have to wait and see how this thing is applied, how it's interpreted,

how it's actually utilized on the ground before we can say whether it violates the law.

Poorly written, Mike?

Is that the problem?

Not ideally.

The rollout was suboptimal.

The draftsmanship could have been better.

But look,

these are people who have got a lot on their plate, and

I understand that.

That's why I hope they get the implementation right, because if they get the implementation right, I think it'll be okay.

What did this judge up in Washington?

Is he right at all?

You know, I read his temporary restraining order, and it's been a long time since I've seen an order like that that dealt with an issue of this magnitude with so few words.

And I don't mean that in a complimentary way.

What I mean is that it lacked analysis.

It was full of

what I call conclusory assertions, where the judge just sort of found that the

basis in law existed for him to issue this temporary restraining order.

And so he did.

But it was very short on legal analysis.

So they're making this into a big deal because, well, he was appointed by George Bush.

And so, you know, George Bush, of course.

How could you possibly go against a George Bush judge?

You know, Glenn, if I had a nickel for every bad decision made by a Republican-appointed judge or Supreme Court justice, I'd be a very wealthy man.

The fact that somebody's put on a court by a Republican means absolutely nothing in terms of his infallibility.

Mike, real quick, before we get into the crux of this,

there's a new poll out about Democrats that are concerned about Christians and Mormons being just as violent as

just as violent as Islam.

What are you doing to curb the Mormon violence in this country?

Are you drafting any kind of legislation?

Yeah, it's a big problem.

It is.

I would

Mormons are known for their violent tendencies.

Bicycles.

The bicycles and the short-sleeve shirts with

ties,

it strikes fear.

Oh my gosh, it does.

Of all who behold.

It's so big problem.

So, Mike, 63%

of all Democrats, 66.66,

feel that's true.

Two-thirds

of all Democrats feel that Christians, Jews, and

Mormons are

just as dangerous as Islamic terrorists.

Wow.

Now, that's interesting.

Especially given that it would be difficult to find doctrine to support that.

It would be difficult to find actual statistics to support that.

One of the reasons why I find this most disturbing is that it strikes this tone of moral equivalency, which I think causes a whole lot of problems.

There's no such thing as bad or good or

bad or worse than bad.

It's just stuff people do.

And

I'm very curious about that study and how they reached those conclusions.

They don't ring true.

It scares the hell out of me because it seems to me that we are living in a

time where facts don't matter at all to anybody on either side.

well they do matter to the reader I think there are a lot of readers out there

and a lot of people who listen to your program a lot of people who actually are willing to dig beneath the surface who care it's not always the case that those reporting those facts care and so when the people care those who report facts that are

not ringing true can be held accountable and I think that's what we have to do.

All right.

Talk to me a a little bit about Gorsuch.

You've met with him last, what was it, Friday, I think, Thursday or Friday.

What did you think of him?

Love the guy.

He's a fantastic judge.

Look, I already had a high opinion of him because I've argued in front of him.

I was a lawyer before I became a politician as a person.

I argue in front of my children, and I don't necessarily have a lot of respect for them.

This guy's good, though.

This guy's good.

But I just highlighted there two of the reasons why I'm one of the, you know, I chose two hated professions, first lawyer, then politician.

You know,

I'm not sure how it could get worse than that.

But in any event, he's a great judge.

He's a dream to argue in front of because he's the kind of judge who reads all the briefs and reads all the statutes and all the cases cited in the briefs.

He's always prepared.

He knows exactly where he's going.

He believes that our

laws matter and the words used matter, and he wants to find the meaning of those words.

But then in the last few days, I've been reading a whole lot of Gorsuch.

I've spent hours upon hours reading Gorsuch opinions.

And so far, I have yet to find a bad opinion among them.

This is an extraordinary judge.

His opinions, if you can believe it, are actually interesting.

They're fun to read.

In addition to the fact that they seem to follow the right approach very consistently with an eye toward finding out what the law says.

Let's just clarify.

That is Mike Lee that just said these are fun to read.

read, so kids don't rush out.

It's Mike saying that.

What are the odds of him getting confirmed?

We intend to get him confirmed, and I expect we will get him confirmed.

I don't know exactly.

Without the nuclear option?

Well, there is no reason why we necessarily have to use the nuclear option.

And I think most or all of us would prefer not to.

It's not clear that we'll have to to begin with.

You know, I do think at least one Democrat Democrat will make sure that we have to get cloture

if they can, and that requires 60 votes to bring the debate to a close.

I think it's possible that we could get those 60 votes.

If we don't, there are a couple of options at our disposal, only one of which involves the use of the nuclear option.

There's another one called Rule 19, the so-called two-speech rule, that allows us to bypass cloture.

when we stay in the same legislative day until everyone who wants to speak has had a chance to do so, and then we go directly to the final vote, which is set at 51.

Look, this is terribly boring, arcane stuff.

This from a guy who loves to read Gorsuch opinions.

No, no, no, no, no, this loves them, says they're fun.

Yes, yes, they are fun.

The Gorsuch opinions are fun.

Rule 19 is not fun, it's quite arcane, but it's useful here, and I think it might give us a path toward confirming Judge Gorsuch without deploying the nuclear option.

Mike, if you had to compare him to a sitting or former judge,

who would he mostly closely compare to?

Would it be Scalia?

Would it be Alito?

Kennedy?

I'd say he's sort of a blend between

Justice Alito, my former boss, and Justices Scalia and Thomas,

which is exactly what we want.

I had hoped the President would nominate someone in that mold.

And as far as I can tell, he appears to be in that mold.

This is a guy who really believes deeply that we need to follow certain principles in the law.

He's deeply wedded to textualism, the idea that

the laws consist of words.

The words have meaning, and you have to find out what those words mean.

And originalism, which is the idea that in order to understand the Constitution, it's important to go back and understand how the words in the Constitution were used at the time they were put in there, at the time they were drafted and ratified.

As someone, Mike, who's

really interested in the Gorsuch opinions, can you help?

Because I thought, speaking of the Scalia comparisons, one interesting place where they seem to split, and it seems like Gorsuch is better than Scalia on, is this idea of the Chevron deference,

where we're talking about basically giving deference to federal agencies.

Can you explain that and make it slightly less boring than it sounds?

Yes.

First of all, I'm thrilled.

I'm ecstatic that I get to explain Chevron deference.

Right now, people are pulling over.

They're like, oh, my gosh.

Chevron deference.

I can't go to work.

I'm about to wet my pants.

I'm so excited.

Okay, so chevron deference is this legal doctrine created out of whole cloth by the devil himself within the federal court system.

And it says that the courts, rather than doing their own thinking, are just going to defer to executive branch bureaucratic agencies when they interpret a regulation developed by that agency.

In other words, hello, Mr.

Fox, here are the keys to the hen house.

Please enjoy it.

That's what we do.

Now, for reasons that astound me, for reasons that sometimes caused me to argue with Justice Scalia when I'd go to dinner with him,

that is a doctrine that doesn't make sense.

And yet Justice Scalia

supported it in one way or another.

Judge Gorsuch appears to have real concerns with chevron difference.

And he pointed out that this is a doctrine that runs against the doctrine of separation of powers embedded deeply within the Constitution.

And I just, I had a huge grin on my face when I was reading that opinion.

It was fantastic.

Because this essentially means like if the EPA has a regulation and there's disagreement about it,

the legal system just says, ask the EPA what they meant.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

And if other people disagree with the EPA's interpretation of what it meant, they say ask the EPA.

And whatever the EPA stands, says stands.

And that's a problem.

That's really a big problem.

So, Mike,

help me out on this.

I've had a

problem necessarily with

some of the direction that this president is taking.

But I'm really.

I was afraid you were going to tell me you didn't have a problem with Chevron.

I was.

Oh, my gosh.

I know.

The controversy.

People would have been fighting across the country over this.

Mike Lee was actually legitimately excited to answer the Chevron deference question.

Can you point that out?

God bless you.

God bless it.

So, Mike, my problem has been

with the lack of concern on

the number of

executive orders that are being issued.

Do you have a problem with the

system that we're using here with this president?

Is it any different?

Or is it just my perception?

It's not now and never has been, never will be, the number of executive orders that are a problem.

I said this repeatedly throughout the eight years of President Obama's presidency.

It's not the number that matters.

Right.

It's the nature of the executive orders.

Right.

It's how they're used.

It's whether or not they're used in a manner authorized by law.

So are these executive orders falling in line with what is authorized?

So far, the executive orders on their face don't fly in the face of the law.

So far, these executive orders could be implemented in a manner fully consistent with the law.

Now, that doesn't mean that all executive orders this president issues will necessarily, going forward, fall into that category, but I haven't seen one yet that I look at and say he doesn't have authority to do that.

Oh, that's really good.

Great news.

Did he

there are some ambiguities in this in this order we were talking about earlier?

There is some language in there that, depending on how it's implemented, could cause a problem.

That's why I'm watching that one carefully.

Like what?

Okay.

You're going to yell at me for getting into this level of detail, but

there are subsequently enacted provisions of the Immigration Code.

Hold on just a second, Jeffy.

Assuming you're awake by the end of this, wake me so I can yell at him for getting into the weeds.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, Mike.

What now?

Bit can be read to restrict

any type of effort on the part of the president to deal with the visa issuance program

process.

And depending on how the courts interpret that, that could end up creating a problem.

Likewise, depending on how they interpret this, this could cause other problems.

I don't want to get into all the details of that.

I don't want to pick any fights that the administration doesn't need picked.

Okay.

People are like, oh, go back to Chevron deference after that one.

One last question.

Mitt Romney said he won't rule anything out, but he won't rule anything in yet.

He's not sure if Oren Hatch is going to run for Senate.

How do you feel about your partner being possibly Mitt Romney?

You know, look, Mitt Romney is a great guy.

The not ruling anything in, not ruling anything out describes the entire context of the Utah Senate race coming up in 2018.

Nobody knows what the heck is going on.

Nobody knows who's running and who isn't.

I have absolutely no idea how to predict this thing.

So I don't know what to say.

I think people, before they decide they're going to get in, kind of like having their name floated out there, and they enjoy the process a lot.

Sometimes that causes the process to drag out too far.

But we still don't know whether Senator Hatch is going to seek re-election.

And I suspect that would strongly influence whether or not

Mitt Romney decides to get in.

Hey, do you have a second to hang on for one more?

Or do you have to run?

Hey, for you, anything.

Okay.

You let me talk about Chevron Deference.

I know.

I know.

You owe us.

You owe the whole nation for that.

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Mike,

I want to talk to you a little bit, and this is really kind of on the Berkeley situation.

We have bad guys on both sides.

We have the extreme

right that is frightening, the alt-right, that is truly frightening.

And then we have the

left that was burning Starbucks down.

You have now people in Congress talking about impeachment.

You have the press saying we're in a constitutional crisis, which we're not.

Are you concerned that the left is playing this so hard

and

the Trump administration is such a counterpuncher that we could find ourselves boxed into a place to where we really are not talking to each other?

Oh, sure.

I'm always concerned about that.

That's always a risk.

I hope that doesn't happen.

I think there are ways we can avoid it, and I think we can keep the dialogue going and keep the dialogue as civil as we can.

The only people we can control are ourselves.

For each one of us, that is true.

We can't control anyone else's words but our own.

And bad things happen when we try.

That's what happens when people start burning down Starbucks.

If they're trying to control somebody else's words, that's always a bad idea.

Mike, thank you so much.

And I thank you so much for your reason and your compassion and your decency in Washington.

One of the good guys, Senator Mike Lee from Utah.

Back in a minute.

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Lots of complaints, Glenn.

I mean, you know, you are.

You're basically mainstream media at this point.

I know.

Stand in line for the complaints.

They're saying, a lot of people saying...

Don't call it a Muslim ban.

It's not a Muslim ban.

Apparently during the conversation, you actually mentioned the word Muslim ban

in that lead-up question to Mike Lee.

Right.

And first of all,

please make note that the first time I was on the air after this so-called Muslim ban, I was talking about how it was.

There you go again, calling it a Muslim ban.

That it wasn't a Muslim ban.

Right.

That he

was a little bit more than.

That

it was the media jumping on it because they didn't read the order.

And then on top of that is the president.

The president called it a ban while he was signing it.

The dumbest thing he could do.

I mean, that's why the lazy press was calling it a Muslim ban because he called it a ban.

And that was following a campaign where he said, we're going to ban Muslims.

Right.

And I think it's important to note, and we have noted it a thousand times.

The policy that Trump proposed during the campaign

was a Muslim

campaign.

Was a Muslim ban.

Yes.

A complete and total shutdown of all Muslims coming into the country.

And that's not what this is.

That is a policy that we loudly opposed, and I think is completely unconstitutional.

That being said, this policy is not that policy.

So the policy he's implemented here

has very little

relationship to the one he proposed in the campaign.

And that's like I can understand how a liberal would say, wait a minute, he said he wanted a Muslim ban.

Now this does some, this would ban some Muslims from coming into the country, not certainly not all, and in very specific circumstances.

And I can understand if you're a liberal, you're going to say, well, this is what he's trying to do, and this is just step one to get there.

I can tell you that if Barack Obama, and we did have these conversations, Barack Obama was proposing bans on certain types of guns.

We said this is a first step down the road of him trying to get rid of all the guns.

And I honestly believe that.

So I can understand the left thinking that way.

However, it's important for us on the right to make sure that these things don't go down this road.

So here's the thing.

Let me ask you this, and let me talk to the right here.

Which would be a better

strategy to win?

If you're trying to win, which would be a better strategy?

I can't believe you're for this Muslim ban.

Well, A,

I'm not for a Muslim ban.

I stood against a Muslim ban when he proposed that, but that's not what what this is.

This is too about

okay.

Hang on just a second.

A, have you read it?

No, I have.

You should read it because then you'll understand.

Now, when I read it,

if I read it, these people that say, read the bill.

If I read it,

I can read it with your eyes because I remember how I felt about Barack Obama.

Now, imagine having this conversation.

And I've had this conversation and it works.

But anyway,

I understand because I felt this way about Barack Obama.

Remember when I said he's trying to ban all the guns and you said, no, he's not.

And I said, this is the first step.

And you said, no, he's not.

All we've done is switched places right now.

It's because you don't trust this guy.

But unlike some people on your side who said, no, he's not, I'm going to say, well, that's what he said during the campaign.

And so I'm going to stand with you to make sure that he doesn't do anything unconstitutional.

And so far, he hasn't.

Right.

And I want you to know, if he does, I'm going to stand right with you against a Muslim ban.

But that's not what this is.

But I see your concern.

I know why you feel this way.

I could read this

executive order and say, yeah, you know what?

This could be a slippery slope.

And the next thing, but why buy that trouble now?

And how far would that have gone with us in 2009?

Would have gone a really long way.

If you would have had to have done that with us, with Obama, okay, I can see your concerns.

We'll be with you if it goes down that road.

We were never treated that way.

You didn't see the, did you see the article that came out about me, how Glenn Beck won the hearts of the land?

I did read that.

Yeah, yeah, it was great.

Did you notice three times in that article that the writer said, even though we don't agree on policies,

how can we not listen to this guy?

It's because I came out and they asked me at the end, so what can we do?

And I said, somebody brave enough has to stand up and bleed all over themselves.

You have to cut your own risk or your own wrist and show that you don't care.

If it means you go out of business, if it means you become unpopular, you don't care.

You'll bleed all over and drain yourself of blood.

If that's what it takes, then that's what I'll do.

Metaphorically speaking.

Right.

But

you can just go to people and say, look, Glenn Beck advocates suicide.

I understand how you feel.

And I may have caused you to feel some of those things.

Yeah.

But that's not what's happening right now.

And the guy who wrote that article was willing to do that.

Yeah.

And surprisingly, he

kind of put his article where

his mouth was with you.

And he went out and wrote a really fair article.

I'm telling you right now that there is a chance that

I have prayed and thanked God for the last two weeks, every day.

I told you for the last five years this couldn't happen, Lord.

I told you this wasn't going to happen.

I told you there was no way, but I'll keep standing where you want me to stand, but I've told you there's no way.

I cannot believe the miracle that you are doing right now.

Now, you're not seeing it because they're only the seeds, but the seeds are falling into fertile ground.

I thought there was no fertile ground.

But right now, because there are those on the, and this is going to change as soon as they start running the president, and that's about, what, eight months from now?

As soon as they decide to kick into presidential high gear.

But right now, you have people, Democrats, who are looking at the riots on the streets.

Democrats, and I don't mean the people in Washington, D.C., nor do I even mean the people in the press.

I mean your friends who are seeing those people riot on the streets and burn Starbucks down and go, that's not what I want to be with.

But we're not giving them any place to run to.

But we have to give them a place to run to and say, I get it.

I get it.

I know.

I know.

I know.

I know.

Glenn, he's saying all these crazy things.

I know.

Some of those crazy things you're hearing in a different way because you don't understand

where that has come from.

For instance, the thing where he said about the press doesn't report

any of these

terrorist attacks.

He said that yesterday.

Now,

I don't know what he meant, but I could read it into this way.

And to me, this will make sense.

And I think this is the way many Trump supporters hear it.

The press doesn't want to report the terrorist attacks like Fort Hood.

They didn't.

They said that's workplace violence.

The government said it was workplace violence and the media went right along with it.

When they did San Bernardino, They immediately, they did not want to say that that was a terrorist attack.

They wanted so desperately to paint that that into a guy who was pushed because of the Christian religion, forcing this guy to go a Christmas

party.

Remember?

So when he said yesterday, there's a lot of people that don't want to report on it.

I don't know if that's what he meant, but I'm on guard in case he does.

He does think that there's other things that are happening that nobody knows about except his special friends at, you know, InfoWars.

I'm on guard for that.

He might mean that.

But the regular Joe in the street,

what they're hearing him say is, yeah, the media doesn't want to say that there's a problem with Islam.

And you know what?

63% of your fellow Democrats believe that Islamists are just as dangerous as Christians.

That's crazy.

Now let me play devil's advocate because I could hear them say back to me, Glenn,

there is people are people.

People are people.

And so the average Muslim in America probably is not, Muslim is not more dangerous.

But you're calling all Muslims

Islamists.

And so they're splitting hairs on Islamist and Muslim.

So if you want to be clear on this, I would say to my Democratic friend, do you believe that Islamists, do you know what that means?

What's the difference between Islamist and a Muslim?

An Islamist means somebody who believes in Sharia law, that it is force to make all people comply, or I can take you as a slave.

So are you an Islamist?

Are Islamists just as dangerous as anybody else from any other religion?

No, they're much more dangerous.

Muslims?

Well, if you take all the Islamists out, I bet they are just the same.

It's the Islamists that we're having a problem with.

We should in this country have an Islamist ban, but not a Muslim ban.

But if you're an Islamist, there's no way you should come to our country.

I don't want you living in my neighborhood, and I don't think Nancy Pelosi wants a Islamist living in her neighborhood.

But this requires us to be able to have a conversation beyond 144 characters or a headline.

I said to somebody yesterday, we were having a conversation and I said, you know what?

I really think

we just have to have brutal conversations to where we say, look, I'm going to say some things and I think we should start doing this.

I'm going to start saying some things and using the best professor I ever had, the best teacher I ever had was was a guy at Yale.

His name is Wayne Meeks.

I don't know if he still teaches, but if, I mean, if you could ever go learn anything from Wayne Meeks, you should.

This guy would push me every single class, and he would challenge me every class, and he would argue the other side every class.

I thought for the first couple of classes that he was on one side.

Then he started arguing the other side.

And I'm like, no, this guy's on the other side.

Then he would argue on the other side again.

He took every side of an argument.

No matter what side I was on, he pushed me on the other side.

So it turns out I don't know what side he was on.

That's what has to start happening.

We have to be able to have friends and a media source, a circle of friends that push us, push each other so hard

that we're uncomfortable.

Yeah, and it's amazing.

I mean, we talk about this poll of Democrats.

I don't know what what the reasoning could be.

This is not a debatable situation.

Let me give you this actual statistics.

Again, this comes from Obama's State Department, the numbers for 2015.

The top terrorist attack, the top terrorist group that were the most attacks and the total deaths, the Taliban,

1,093 attacks, causing 4,512 deaths.

Obviously, Islamic extremists.

Secondly, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, ISIL or ISIS, 931 attacks, responsible for 6,050 deaths.

Number three, Boko Haram, again, Islamic extremists, 491 attacks, 5,450 deaths.

Those are the top three.

The next one, in case you're wondering how,

you know, because we're talking about white Christians being the danger here, the Maoist Communist Party of India.

The communists.

The Communists, 343 attacks for 176 deaths.

Where's the Mormon mafia there?

The Mormons?

The Mormon mafia.

Shockingly not listed.

Where's Jewish, Christian, anybody?

The next, the only other one that's listed in the top five is the Kurdistan Workers' Party.

Workers' Party.

Right.

238 and 287 deaths.

But again,

all of them.

There is not, there's not, yes, there have been incidents where I am completely comfortable

calling them terrorist attacks, shootings and terrible things that have happened.

But when you talk about it as a global issue, there is not another thing to talk about other than Islamic extremism.

I noticed you didn't name Timothy McVay.

Oh, yeah, communists are next.

But again, that's the fourth one down.

The top three are all Islamic extremists.

Except for Timothy McVay.

That was 1995, and he was also an atheist.

So

now, this:

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So there's no such thing as being overprepared.

Worse yet, not being self-reliant at all.

Everybody who called us crazy

is now doing this.

It's incredible to me how many people are saying, I went out and I bought some extra food.

I don't know how to do this food storage thing.

I went out and I'm looking to go buy a farm.

I'm moving away from Los Angeles because this thing could break down.

Really?

I bet you heard that all week last night.

All week long.

And it took a lot of strength from God not to say, really?

Here's what I would recommend.

There is something in the collective gut.

Both sides know it.

We dismiss it if our side is in power.

Don't dismiss it.

That's a red herring.

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I actually can't believe I'm saying I'm excited for this, but I am excited for the Ted Cruz Bernie Sanders debate tonight on CNN.

I do.

I care too.

I mean, because both of them seem to be people who care about actual ideas.

This is the one that we wanted.

It's a little late.

It is a little late, and it's meaningless.

But

it is going to be interesting because we're seeing now reports that they might wait till 2018 to try to repeal Obamacare and replace it with some sort of something.

And if we can, I don't want to see the debate.

I mean, the debate I really want is Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz on socialism versus capitalism.

That's what I want.

I want a solid, no-straw man, best two debaters on that.

Because that's the debate we should be having.

That is the debate that the millennials want to have right now.

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Greg Gabbitt

in the state of the state here in Texas spent quite a bit of time talking about the Convention of States and why it is needed.

From From the governor of Texas,

I love this guy.

I think he may be the best governor I've ever had in any state I've ever lived.

Wow.

You grew up in Washington, then you were living in Connecticut.

I've lived in New York.

No, wait, wait, wait.

I've lived in Connecticut.

I've lived in Kentucky.

I've lived in Virginia, Maryland,

Connecticut.

Yeah, I know.

Washington, D.C.

Okay, so all those were bad.

I've lived in Texas before, Arizona,

Florida.

We had Jeb Bush was a great governor.

Greg Abbott is, he is a superstar.

Anyway, he was talking about the Convention of States.

We'll talk about that.

Also, I want to spend a few minutes on Matthew McConaughey, something we didn't play when it first came out,

an epic take on the anti-Trump Hollywood that

I'm not sure he's saying what

Hollywood thinks he's saying or what Trump supporters think he's saying.

We'll get into that.

Also, Jake Tapper from CNN and Tommy from The Blaze was on Bill Maher.

We're going to start there right now.

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I will raise my voice.

I will hold your hand.

Cause we have won.

I will be my drum.

I have made my choice.

We will overcome.

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On Friday, Tommy Larin

was on Bill Maher, and I didn't get a chance to see it.

Stu saw it and said there was a remarkable moment that he played for us.

And I have to play for you because there is no way I would have gotten this right.

There's no way.

I barely know my own name.

But she was in a debate and you know what that's like being in a debate and the whole table was against her.

And they were talking about Benghazi and the guy, unfairly, because it has nothing to do with anything.

Said, oh, you care so much.

Can you name the guys from Benghazi?

Can you name them?

Now, I've met them.

We've had them on the show.

Yeah, other people.

Yeah, because she was talking about the people.

They were talking about the people who died.

Obviously, we haven't had them on the show, but the other

people were involved in the incident.

Correct.

Who were there at the moment?

We've had them on the air.

I can't remember anybody's name.

I can't remember.

I don't remember the name of Marcus Luttrell's SEAL team, and that's horrible because

I know all of them and how much it means to Marcus.

You know, thank God for Google.

There's no way.

Could you have passed that?

No, God.

Could you have passed that?

No way.

No.

I don't know anybody.

Here's Tommy.

But no, on the Bengali, like, you all can talk about that, but what were the names of the guys who died?

Like, you don't know.

You know, Chris Stevens, the ambassador.

Okay.

Chris Stevens.

Glenn Gordy.

Glenn Woods.

All right, good.

Good for you.

Good for you.

And the other guy the other day was Ryan.

Was Ryan Dunn?

Thank God I know.

I haven't heard their names in years.

I know all their names, and thank goodness he went to Dunver.

I mean, that is freaking incredible.

I'm sorry.

If you've never done a show like that,

if you've never done a show like that,

in the middle of

a debate like that, obviously

exactly.

You're thinking, you're not thinking that way.

That's an amazing moment.

She deserves a lot of credit for that.

I will say, completely unfair question.

Has nothing to do with whether she knows anything about Benghazi or not.

It's like to ask him, if you were to reverse to him, who I don't even know who it was, again, I don't know his name either.

If he was a guy guy who fought against gun violence and you asked him, well, name me some victims from X, Y, or Z shooting that you've been blabbing about all the time.

Name any of the names of the children of Sandy Hook.

Right, exactly.

That is so unfair to ask and doesn't discredit you if

you're arguing for gun control.

The names of the children don't matter.

They don't matter.

It's the idea that you are fighting for.

And of course, they do matter so much

in a different

conversation.

Yes, exactly.

When you're talking about policy, it doesn't matter.

That's trying to, again,

trying to emotionalize all of it.

You don't have to, you don't, it's why we don't have

the families of the victims give the sentence or be on the jury.

Right.

You want to remove the emotion from it so you can say, this is what's logical.

The problem is the conservatives and the liberals, the liberals, we say, well, they just personalize it.

They make it about the children.

Let's talk about the actual facts of the guns.

Right.

Let's talk about the actual facts on the ground, not the names of the Benghazi victims.

It's not about them personally.

Yes.

Should we know them?

Should we recognize their story?

Yes.

But that's not what we're upset about, that one guy who we happen to know was killed.

We should have outrage that they were killed without knowing their names, right?

Okay,

and we, what we've done is we say, hey, stop personalizing it, but then we personalize it by making it about Trump or Obama.

Stop it.

Well, I mean, look,

I just think, I mean, just to hear that, I mean, that is an incredible moment.

And what a failure.

This goes from this guy.

I mean, oh, you don't know.

Oh, you don't know.

I mean, they always say this.

But he did know.

He was naming them.

After her.

No, no, no.

No, she said, I mean, excuse me, he said to her, you don't know, he accused Tommy of not knowing.

Right.

Which is interesting.

That he started naming.

He named the first one.

He named the first

and then he named the second one.

Then he named the second one.

Listen again.

Let's listen one more time.

But no, on the Benghazi, like you all can talk about that, but what were the names of the guys who died?

Like, you don't know.

You know, Chris Stevens, the ambassador.

Chris Stevens.

Gwen Gordon.

Lev Gordon.

He said of you.

Good for you.

And the other guy the other day was

Brian Owens, yes.

Good for you.

I bet you, you know, he's preparing for that, right?

Like,

he knows he's going to try to trap her.

And so he knows the names.

Maybe, I mean, who knows?

Maybe he's known the names the whole time, but assumes that she doesn't know the name.

This reminds me of that moment

because you should always know the answer to your question when you're going into a moment like that.

And remember the MSNBC thing, Pat?

You'll remember this.

Where the host was, you know, they were debating some Obama policy about economics.

Oh, I love this.

This is my favorite.

I'm trying to know I got it.

Do you have the audio handy?

I don't know.

Okay, don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it.

She said, no, she says, you're not an economist.

Where's your degree from?

You have a degree in economics?

Yes, I do.

Highest honors.

Yeah, here it is.

This is what happened.

We were looking at going, reverting into a depression at that point.

Everyone, the Federalist.

I disagree that we were going into a depression, but go ahead.

Do you have a degree in economics?

Yes, ma'am, I do.

Highest honors.

Okay, so

I love that.

So good.

I love that.

So good.

And that's on the level there with the Tommy moment because he thought he had her.

He thought he had her.

And she pulled all four of those names out.

It's pretty impressive.

So can I ask you a question?

I defended Milo Yapanopoulos.

I despise that guy.

I think he's a danger because he enjoys that we are in a post-fact world.

Those are his words.

I love it that we're in a post-fact world.

And what he means by that is you can get get away with anything.

All you have to do is ratchet up the emotion, and nobody cares what the facts are.

And that's great.

Now, there's an argument between some of my friends that he's not dangerous.

He's just somebody who wants to be famous.

And he doesn't necessarily believe in all of this stuff.

Well, that's just as dangerous.

Or he's being used by someone.

Again, just as dangerous.

I don't know because I don't know him, but I am wildly against him.

However, shouldn't we be standing for his right to speak?

Because I am.

I think he should have been able to speak at Berkeley.

We have to be able to have these conversations with one another.

Now, he's different because he's just a bomb thrower.

Yeah, I mean, but I mean.

And so

do we back bomb throwing or do we back people with really bad, for instance, oh, Richard Spencer, awful, awful Nazi.

But aren't we glad that, for instance, Mein Kampf came out?

Yeah, I'd rather have, I'd rather know what they're thinking honestly or try to push them down.

And they still will believe the same things, right?

I mean, it is amazing because they call people like Milo, whatever his name is, a flamethrower, you know, while at the same time, there are buildings in the area actually burning from the left.

It's not worse, throwing flames, actually putting flames in the buildings and catching things on fire.

So, I am a

free speech absolutist, basically.

So, I mean,

I want it out there.

I want to hear everybody's words.

I want to hear the worst things in society, and I want to be there to criticize them with my own words.

Right now, there are people that are rooting for me to fire

Tommy.

Why?

Let's just think this through.

I am so

I can't I listen to her and

it's not the approach that I would take by any stretch of the imagination.

And I've talked to her about that.

I've already done that approach.

I know how that turns out.

Doesn't work.

Doesn't work.

Now, it makes people feel good and it will make her very, very popular, but it won't change people's minds.

That's my opinion.

She has a different opinion.

I don't agree with it.

But shouldn't we allow people?

Shouldn't we?

I mean, I love

encourage speech.

Yeah, people encourage different approaches.

People are encouraging me to fire her and encouraging her to quit.

That's really fascinating to me.

Fascinating to me.

Like, we can't have different opinions and different approaches.

We should encourage that.

It's not even just, it's not like tolerating it.

I've never wanting it.

I've never called for Keith Oberman to be fired.

I didn't call for Van Jones to be fired from the White House.

I mean,

I can't imagine disagreeing with anybody who has speech more than Milo, who I support being able to say these crazy things.

I don't support him.

I think he's a danger, but I think I should be allowed to say those things against him.

But what do people do on Twitter?

Try to shout me down from disagreeing with him because they think I want to shut him up.

No, let him speak.

Let him be heard.

I encourage you to read.

You know how I know the German people knew what was going on?

Mein Kampf was a bigger seller than the Bible.

It's all in there.

They knew.

You don't want to take him seriously?

Well, that's your fault.

You knew.

You're held responsible.

I want people to know.

I want people to, we must as a society be able to have open conversation.

And the only speech worth protecting is the speech you find abhorrent.

Yes, I strongly disagree.

But if I believe in the Constitution,

Shouldn't and the American people

shouldn't I also be able to say well well, that person,

that person has a right to say those things, and I'll defend that person's right to say those things?

Or is it up to me to say the people are too stupid to figure it out?

They won't figure this out.

The people are just too dumb.

I should be their policeman on information.

Principles

matter.

What are your principles?

Now, if anyone on my network starts calling for violence,

bombings,

stringing people up,

then I'm going to fire them.

You're pretty safe on that.

Pretty safe.

Pretty safe.

That's a pretty easy call.

But if somebody just disagrees and their approach

is different than mine,

How do I condemn her?

I've talked to her, but how do I condemn her for taking an approach that in many ways I took?

All I say is, learn from my mistakes.

But didn't our parents tell us to do that too?

And how many of us did?

Sometimes you have to learn it on your own.

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audio.

Do you still have that, Pat?

The Matthew McConaughey audio,

he was in the middle of an interview for a new movie that he's in.

And

if you don't have it, that's all right.

We'll pick it up in a minute.

He started in on

the situation that we're in right now.

Did you guys take that as a

slap in Hollywood's face, a slap on the back of Donald Trump, or did you just take that as, hey,

I think that maybe we should all simmer down.

Do you have it, Pat?

Yeah, I have it.

Yeah, go ahead and play it.

Every single American actor or arty type who comes over to London dumps on Trump.

You all completely hate him.

Do you think it's time that maybe Hollywood and the cultural elite of America gave this guy a break?

Well, they don't have a choice now.

He's our president.

And

it's very dynamic and as divisive of an inauguration in time that we've ever had.

At the same time, it's time for us to embrace, shake hands with this fact, and be constructive.

with him over the next four years.

So anyone, even those who most strongly may disagree with his principles or things he's said and done,

which is another thing.

We'll see what he does compared to what he had said.

No matter how much you even disagreed along the way, it's time to think about how constructive can you be because he's our president for the next four years at least.

Isn't that the president of the United States?

Isn't that just common sense?

Yeah.

I mean, you can even look at it and say, Look, the guy wants a, what, a $1.1 or at least a $1 trillion stimulus package.

Why would you be spitting on him when you know he punches back twice as hard?

When you could get a lot of stuff done, I'm not condoning this because this is not what I want.

I don't want a $1.1 trillion stimulus package, but he does.

Why wouldn't you be embracing him instead of marching in the streets?

$1 trillion

can make a lot of things happen.

Why wouldn't you on the left be going, you know what?

Let's see where he's going.

We could work with this.

Think about this.

This is a Republican president who proposed a $680 billion maternity leave and child care program.

Okay.

And day one of his presidency, there is a women's march against him for being, oh, so conservative.

Isn't that amazing?

Why wouldn't you instead, if you're a liberal, and believe me, I'm glad they're not doing this because it might very well work.

But if you were a liberal and wanted to actually get things done and get these big programs locked in for all eternity, because when they come from Republicans, they will never go away.

You would be able to lock these things in forever if you went to him and said, you know what, we don't really like this, you know, your immigration ban, but I don't even want to talk about that.

Let's talk about your maternity leave program and get him, you know, because if you want to know the approach that's worked with Trump as far as moving him to the left, it's not yelling at him and screaming at him.

It's Ivanka and Jared Kushner's approach.

They're both Democrats.

They've been, I mean, she leans very left on social issues.

And what have you seen?

That proposal, for point example, one.

Number two, all the executive orders that have come in,

and Trump has reversed.

He didn't reverse the LBGTQIA ban or

executive order.

He

had a certain amount of care.

He kept Obamacare.

He codified it.

So far, he has.

But, I mean, we don't know what's going to happen with that when he's still talking about it.

Well, he said yesterday that it would be at least a year before he'd get to that.

The longer it drags out,

the less it's coming out.

But I mean, there's an approach that works with Trump, and it's working with him, as McConaughey's talking about.

There's actually ground to gain there for them.

I hope they continue to protest him in the streets because I think it hardens Trump against those positions, so it's very good for us.

So, in a way, I really kind of hope they continue to really badge.

You know,

can I pick it up there?

Because it's not very good for us when I come back.

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here's where we left off so my point was in in many ways for conservative policies it's a really good thing that liberals are going nuts and reflexively before he's even done anything um uh protesting the president and basically calling him hitler because i think it uh i think it it basically hardens trump against the people doing that and so when they request their 680 million dollars in

there's no doubt about that maternity leave, like he might say, you know what, I'm sick of these people.

They didn't even give me a chance.

So screw them.

I'm not doing those things that I promised during the campaign on that side.

So I think it's helped, for example, get Neil Gorsuch

through.

Neil Gorsuch, he said he was going to pick from that list, but he may have picked one of the top three or four from that list.

And he may have picked and then not defended them.

And I think the way they're treating him now,

I think he's going to be hardened and he'll be like, to hell with you.

So that's really good for us.

And my point before the break that you disagreed with, and I think I understand where they're coming from.

Yeah.

But let me explain.

There's nuance here.

Yeah, there's nuance.

But my point before that is, thank God they're out there protesting him on day one before he's even done anything, because I think it hardens him and it will help us policy-wise going forward.

Okay.

Might be a good thing for us.

So totally agree with you on if we're looking at this as politics and we're looking how to play it.

Okay.

Totally agree with you.

I think you'll totally agree with me also that when you say hardened, there comes a point to where hardened doesn't describe it.

He counter punches.

You hit him.

He'll hit you twice as hard.

He's hard.

And you may not, yeah, and you may not even see it.

He has said, I never forgive.

He doesn't ask for forgiveness.

And

he's not a hypocrite because...

He never forgives.

He does not forget.

He does not forgive.

Those are his words.

Well, I think a chapter in one of his books is about vengeance.

Yeah.

So, I mean, you know, he does that.

He's a counterpuncher.

So

when you look at what the left is doing, they hit him.

He's going to hit them back twice as hard.

And at some point,

think of this with the press.

Do you think he's ever going to give on the press?

Do you think he's ever going to surrender to the press?

Ever?

No.

No.

Too controlled, to right.

Do you think he'll ever run out of his facts to make those points?

No.

No.

I mean, and he will praise the press at times when they do things that he likes.

Correct.

Yes.

He will never.

But he'll never surrender this.

As long as you're fighting him, he will never, ever surrender.

Okay.

And he'll ratchet it up and he'll, and it doesn't matter.

Winning is what matters to him.

At what point does the press say

we're we're in trouble here because i don't i no longer count him as the loser in anything

i don't see none

yeah yeah you don't see him right you don't see him lose even when he goes bankrupt which he never ever does even when he settles court cases which i never settle never

i never settle never while he's settling he still wins yes he still wins yeah he does i don't know how he does it but he he still wins are you getting tired of all the winning is not no i'm not actually but sure sounds like um the thing the the thing is is he's never going to give up and he'll find a way to win

if the left continues to counter punch it is only going and it's so bad right now because he hasn't done anything

He hadn't done anything yet.

Nothing they should be

just crazy about.

That's for sure.

I mean, if you look at the facts, not the media facts of a Muslim ban, but the actual facts, that's not what this is now.

Could it become that?

Yeah, it might.

And I'll stand with you when it becomes that.

But I can't stand with you now.

And the more you do these things, the crazier you look.

And so what happens?

What happens is

there are two sides of this country.

There's four groups, I think, really.

There are those on the uber-uber

alt-right who are fascists.

No ifs, ends, and buts.

They are fascists, the alt-right.

Then there are the anarchists on the left and who just want to burn the whole thing down.

Neither one of them are anarchists.

They're communists.

Okay, nobody on the left wants to call them that, but that's what they are.

They are advocating for something.

They're not anarchists.

They're dressed like anarchists, but they want to burn the system down so they can have their communist redistribution of wealth, free everything state.

Well, the fascists aren't just fascists.

They're anarchists too.

They want to burn everything down so they can have their fascistic state.

There's another there's another group that is harder to spot, and those are the

very,

very wealthy globalists that would like to see the whole thing burned down so they can reset everything to their liking.

But let's leave them off the board.

I don't know any Democrat who agrees with the guys who are dressed in black who are burning down Starbucks.

Do you know a single Democrat like that?

No, I don't know.

Okay.

Do you know any Republicans personally that are like those alt-right guys who are just...

Okay.

So I don't know those people.

I mean, obviously, we see reporting reporting on them and

interviewed and they

exist.

Yes.

They exist.

Now,

do I know people on the Democratic side that say that's not us, but I understand them.

I do.

You could probably get there.

Yep.

I know people who are not alt-writers, but say, hey, look, they kind of helped Trump get in and, you know, whatever.

You're crazy.

That's what the Democrats did with the Marxists.

They brought them in thinking we could use them as fuel of fire.

And who won that battle?

Where are the moderate blue-dog Democrats now?

Nowhere.

The other two factor factions in this country make up the vast majority.

And they are the people

that are neither alt-right nor anarchist/slash communists.

They're the main center who may have flirted with these edges, but now see, wait, this is getting dangerous.

This is out of control.

The crazies are starting to run the asylum.

This is not making me comfortable.

If you understand

that the main

swath of Americans

are not these radicals,

now is is the time we can come together.

Now is the time that you can come together.

But it requires you, because you're in power, means, doesn't mean as much when you're on the losing side.

Because you're in power, you can go to them and be magnanimous.

You know,

comforting the ones who lost.

and reaching out to the ones who feel disenfranchised.

think how far that would have gone for you if somebody would have come to you and said, Pat, I know exactly how you feel.

And I'm sorry, we got a bunch of crazies over here.

And I'm keeping my eye on the crazies too.

And I don't think that we're out of control like you do, but I recognize those crazies over there and they scare the hell out of me too.

So I understand that.

And I'm with you.

But Pat,

you're not helping by going out and marching and

supporting these people who are throwing Molotov cocktails,

which we never did.

But

going out and being seen right now, I can guarantee you that everybody, every sane person in this audience,

if

big named people

that were not part of politics and have proven themselves not a part of politics had come to us and said, guys,

you know, I don't agree with you, but listen, I'll be with you in the summer,

but you got to give this guy a chance.

And when he starts doing things, if he's doing what you say, I'll be with you.

I would have been on the air saying, let's wait until summer.

Yeah.

Let's give them a chance.

And if they don't do it, well, then we know that person.

If they're not with us, then we know that person's discredited.

And we could do it that way,

you know, because right now, like you said, Republicans are in power.

Or there's re-education camps.

You could go that way too.

And maybe you put them in a re-education camp until they finally think like we do.

Right.

We could do it that way.

We could go that way.

That's another option.

And I've asked so many people.

It's not a bad option, right?

I've asked so many people recently when they're saying, you know,

they'll never bend.

I love this.

And they will never bend.

If we don't try to work with the other side in this country, and again, like you mentioned earlier in the show, we're not talking about dealing with ISIS this way.

We're not talking about holding hands with ISIS and loving them back.

Or the Muslim Brotherhood.

Or the Muslim Brotherhood.

No.

No one likes that.

I'm talking about Democrats.

I'm talking about Democrats in this country.

So, of course, that's how you'd want to deal with them.

I'm even talking about Republicans who voted differently than you.

Right, right.

I mean, that's crazy.

Because the alternative to that is

Re-education camps are a combination of the two.

It really is.

Really is.

It really is.

I've asked that of so many people when they'll say, you know, you got to fight fire with fire.

We got to fight fire with fire.

We got to take them out.

Some people on Twitter are saying we got to kill them all.

Come on.

Kill them all?

Have you not seen the pictures of what civil war looked like in America?

Is that really what you want?

Because I'm not with you on that.

Yeah, I'm going to take a flat.

I'm going to take a hard pass on.

Right.

And where, and where does who is the we know Donald Trump punches back twice as hard.

We've seen him.

He doesn't believe in forgiveness.

He believes in vindictiveness.

He is not going to stop fighting.

So

by punching him,

and you're punching him, I think wrongly

by not waiting for things that are real, that you can actually get everybody behind.

How does that end?

How does this end?

And, you know, I think there's a, there's a typical way of people think of like, well, the other side is never going to change.

They're never going to change.

And, you know, look,

I understand the way that feels, but think about what has changed just recently.

Things that were fundamental bedrock principles of conservatism are no longer part of it.

Harry Reid used to stand up in front of the Senate and say, we absolutely must secure this border right now.

We have to audit the Fed.

I mean,

these things have all changed within the past decade or two.

Tri-gay marriage.

In 2008, the president said he was against it.

And Hillary Clinton.

Right.

In 2008.

It was a fundamental bedrock principle that one man and one woman would be the marriage course.

And, you know, people would say to that, well, see, yeah, they're moving left.

We don't want to move left.

Well, let me ask you this.

Wasn't that the point of so many people?

They said God can change anyone?

Didn't you say that you disagreed with Donald Trump, but you're praying that God could change anyone?

He can change Donald Trump, but he can't change our friends on the left?

Really?

Wow.

That's a pretty weird God you got going for you.

And I'm already seeing change.

I'm already seeing real,

true hope.

The things that that I have prayed for since 828,

I just prayed and asked forgiveness today,

this morning.

I prayed and asked forgiveness for not seeing his plan in things.

And I said, I know there's no way I could have seen this.

There's no way I could have seen this, but I'm sorry for not trusting you more.

I'm sorry for telling you.

Last chance, God, last chance.

There's never a last chance with him.

Miracles are happening.

But we have to expect them and change our heart.

And if you don't believe that miracles like that can happen, ask the New England Patriots.

Because

for them, they had quite one just the other day.

It happens.

Going more conservative quickly on that point.

Look at Russia.

I mean, there was a point where the president of the United States stood on stage and said they're basically not a threat at all.

Who's more conservative on Russia now?

Is it the Republicans or the Democrats?

I mean, the Democrats are the ones all arguing that Russia is an actual threat.

Now, whether they believe it or not is a whole nother situation.

They believe that these things change all of the frames.

They used to say that executive orders weren't a problem.

They all believe.

They're all saying we need to look into the Constitution and rebalance the power of the executive branch.

What do you mean they can't change?

They already have.

Let's capitalize on that.

Wouldn't it be a great thing to take advantage of?

Yes.

If we could.

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Boy, we didn't get to the Missouri boy who has been attacked for wearing a Make America great hat.

No, we've got to do that.

Yes, we got to do that tomorrow.

Do we have time for the Greg Abbott Convention of the States?

No, we don't have time for that either.

What do we have time for, Pat?

Nothing.

There's so much left on the table.

Why?

Because Pat had to start with.

Oh, I really loved La La Land.

Yeah, did I have to start with that?

Yeah, well, you did.

You did, right as we were turning the mics on.

That's what he says to me.

And I'm like, what have you done with my friend Pat?

That could not be ignored.

It could be ignored.

It really could have been.

It really could have been.

It could not have been ignored.

There was no law, federal or state, even local, that said we had to talk about law.

Just saw a new executive order.

Did you?

Oh, there is a lot of money.

Gray says he likes a musical

must be discussed.

I actually agree with that.

There's something seriously wrong with you.

We're going to check the DNA, make sure Pat is really Pat, and we'll be back tomorrow.

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