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Welcome to the program.

We've got a lot to talk about today: the fires at Berkeley and

defending the indefensible.

That's where we find ourselves today.

I am

a proponent of free speech and it means you have to defend the ugliest speech around.

Doesn't mean you have to like it.

Doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

And it doesn't mean that you don't warn against it,

but you must ensure that it still can be heard.

An ugly job for me at least today begins right now.

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Cause we have won.

I will be my drum.

I have made my choice, we will overcome, cause we are one.

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Hello, America, and welcome to the program.

Last night in

UC Berkeley, things got really ugly and out of hand.

And it looks as though the press doesn't really care

about

the anarchy and the anti-capitalists that were out smashing the banks and the Starbucks like they had anything to do with anything.

Starbucks,

where you sit and have coffee and you discuss Karl Marx.

Why are you breaking their windows?

What have they done?

Oh, I remember.

You're upset at Donald Trump and his

Muslim ban, which isn't a Muslim ban.

Got it.

Got it.

Got it.

But wait a minute.

Didn't Starbucks say they were going to hire 10,000 refugees?

Oh, that doesn't matter.

Go ahead, burn them down, too.

Because

you don't really care.

You're for chaos.

You're for burning the whole system down.

And who are you protesting?

You're protesting another guy who wants to burn the entire system down.

You two should unite.

You two should get together.

You two should go on the road.

Maybe you will.

Maybe Milo could go from place to place, college campus to college campus,

just saying horrible, despicable things,

and you can fall right into it.

Because all he's trying to do is create chaos.

That's what he believes in.

Chaos.

Burn burn the entire thing down, none of it works,

nihilist.

Then

you can actually, in protesting a nihilist, you can become the nihilist yourself and burn it all down.

And then the regular people will stand around saying, somebody has to make that stop

because the world has been turned inside out and upside down and the top will come crashing down to help you

geez where have I seen this before

I can't take 144 characters anymore

I can't take Facebook anymore

I can't take talk radio where we have three hours to converse

because there are those who will listen to two minutes of what I have to say that might take me 20 minutes to fully explain and understand.

And you're off on Facebook.

You're off on Twitter.

You're off making a meme.

To make sure that you can dump more poison into the system.

Isn't this great?

America, America, this is what it's all about.

This is the land of the free and home of the brave, isn't it?

Look how brave we are.

We can all sit behind our little memes.

We can all sit behind an avatar and a fake name, and we can produce a fake life, and we can take pictures of just the good parts of our life so we can show everybody how great and cool we are.

Boy, we are the home of the brave.

The young face of the alt-right.

The 31-year-old, what a surprise, Breitbart writer,

known as the Dangerous Faggot,

he has quickly become a hero to young conservatives and libertarians.

Why?

Because he punches back twice as hard, that's why.

He's neither a libertarian nor a conservative.

Well, Glenn, how could you possibly say he's a racist?

Oh my gosh, he's a homosexual who has dated black dudes.

Oh, you're right.

Hey, by the way, you should come over sometime because a friend of mine, Bren Ashworth, he's got the whole collection of letters that Goebbels wrote to his Jewish girlfriend.

You're right.

You're right.

Oh my gosh.

The night of long knives, I'm trying to remember.

How many SA

commanders were caught in bed with young men?

I'm trying to remember.

That number was zero, or I know it had a zero or two in the number, so it must have been zero.

If Donald Trump defies political correctness,

then Milo,

how do you say his name?

Yapannapolis.

is an avid Trump supporter

prone to calling the Donald daddy,

and he obliterates political correctness.

He says, F your feelings, and the kids love it.

How could you not?

As the student left becomes insufferably extreme,

he's the perfect counterpunch.

He's irreverent.

He's exciting.

He's punk rock.

He's got bleach blonde hair.

He sticks his middle finger up to the establishment on the left and the right.

He's connecting with the 18 to 34 year olds.

He warns the GOP: you're alienating not the old voters,

but the next next generation of conservative firebrands who are currently gravitating to Trump, the alt-right and Milo.

He's the guy who wrote for Breitbart the 3,500 word piece, The Establishment Conservatives Guide to the Alt-Right.

Although initially small in numbers, the alt-right has youthful energy and jarring, taboo-defying rhetoric that has boosted its membership and made it impossible to ignore.

This movement is young, and they defy all the taboos.

And unfortunately, the alt-right has become impossible to ignore.

Because it's racist.

But I don't mean racist like the left does, where merely being white and male is a sin.

I mean rationalizing what you're intellectually or culturally superior because you're white.

I mean, believing that black and brown people are less valuable society and should be viewed with contempt.

Is he racist?

No, he's dated black dudes.

Even though the alt-right

will openly crack jokes about the Holocaust,

express its outrage of race mixing,

They do have real problems with race mixing, writes Milo.

And that's only because anything associated as closely with racism and bigotry as the alt-right will inevitably attract real racists and bigots.

The alt-right intellectuals would also argue that culture really is inseparable from race.

There's a difference and we are in the we're in the we generation now and this is what happened in the 1930s.

This is what happened during the French Revolution.

The we gets together and either says, we're better than this, we're better than this,

and they understand who they serve, and they serve a loving God that teaches peace and comfort,

decency, honor, charity,

love,

or they serve a God that says, tear it all down.

The ends justify the means.

Darkness is good.

Dick Cheney,

Darth Vader, Satan.

That's real power.

That's Steve Bannon's quote.

Does it sound familiar at all?

At least a tip of the hat to the world's first rebel who rebelled so well that at least he won his own kingdom, Satan.

That's Sololinsky.

You got him on both sides.

But because we have

been poked and prodded

right now, Donald Trump is having a war with CNN.

Well, I've seen this movie before,

except the press didn't report the last time a president did this.

And it's just been ratcheted up, but it's the same exact war.

Donald Trump has been saying, I don't watch watch CNN anymore.

It's all fake news.

Gosh, I remember somebody else saying that about Fox News.

Who was that?

See, I was there.

I was there when we were effectively taking on the Obama administration.

And first, the pressure started coming up from the office of Roger Ailes.

Hey, we all all love the Constitution, but you know, there are things we have to do.

Hey, you know, you're kind of speaking out against the GOP.

Hey, we're starting to get a lot of pressure now from the White House to our White House reporters.

Our White House reporters aren't really getting access.

Don't ever say you like our White House news reporters.

See, I was there.

I saw that pressure.

I saw how that worked.

So, Trump isn't doing anything new.

Trump is just taking it up one more

leg,

one more rung up on the ladder, because he learned what worked from the left.

And the press was quiet and complicit.

They don't believe in freedom of speech.

They believe in the freedom of speech that they like.

The First Amendment is worthless unless you stand by the speech that you despise.

No university in this country is worth their salt unless they can say, Yes, Milo can show up.

Milo can speak.

How do you even know what you like, what you despise,

who you are, what you believe,

if you won't even listen to the other side, except for maybe in 144 characters?

Any time somebody tells you not to watch it, not to listen to it, not to read it,

by God, that's the first thing I do.

I read, I watch, I listen.

I know,

I know

why Hitler is so bad.

Not because I watched some stupid documentary, because I read Mein Kampf.

I know why the alt-right is poison, because I've read Alexander Dugan.

I recognize who Milo is.

I recognize what Steve Bannon is.

I recognize the tools that they're using and why they're choosing each word.

Because I've read the horror show and the manual that they're currently using.

And it's not 1933.

It's a brand new theory, the fourth political theory.

You don't know what it is?

Oh, well, you shouldn't look into it.

Don't read it.

It's too dangerous.

Don't read it.

It's bad.

Everyone should read it.

Otherwise, you'll be swept up into it.

Because it's going to be mighty popular.

It's found a way to tell all tell you all the things you want to hear in the language that you want to hear it.

Oh, it's going to make you feel so good.

It's going to be so popular.

But the last thing you should do is know exactly how it works, why it works, and what the ends are.

Let's just hope for change.

I stand against the UC Berkeley anarchists.

You don't have a right to do what you did.

I stand for Milo and his ability to be heard and to speak without danger.

But I also want to make it very clear.

He is a despicable human being.

His message is poison.

But he has has a right to say it.

And I believe people should listen,

but not go in blindly.

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There is a leak in the White House.

And it's interesting because they leaked something to the Associated Press.

And the Associated Press printed something that wasn't true.

Who caught it and

corrected it?

CNN.

Now,

why is this leak leak happening in the White House?

What, is somebody in the White House saying, please help, help, help?

Or is the White House intentionally doing it to discredit news?

Something isn't right.

We go there next.

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Let me say hello to

Stu and Jeffy back at the studios in Dallas.

I'm in Los Angeles this week.

Welcome to the program.

How you doing, boys?

Very well, Glenn.

Thanks for the intro.

What'd you think of the riots and the Milo stuff?

Well, I mean, you're completely right in that you have to defend the speech you don't like.

I mean, you know, look.

Period.

Period.

Milo.

Yeah, you don't need to defend speech that everybody loves.

Yeah, that's easy.

You know, the idea that, you know, we're talking about a person who thinks we live in a post-fact era and may.

And likes it.

And likes likes it.

And may I add, he's correct about that.

I mean, I'm not criticizing his analysis of the situation.

I just don't like it like he does.

Right.

He says this is great because now you can smash everything.

Yeah.

I mean, if you're living in a post-fact world, you can do whatever you want and create whatever you want to be able to control or smash.

Yeah, he says

truth is not enough anymore.

You need performance, basically, on top of that.

And that's what he likes.

And, you know, so I'm not a fan of him in any way.

Obviously, I know you and I defend the First Amendment rights of somebody to say something.

It's a horrible, horrible thing that should be absolutely shunned when you're talking about violence against people who are attending the event and this sort of reaction to it.

If it was the other way around, we can play this game, I know, all day.

But if it was, it would be the biggest story for weeks that they were beating up people like this at an event.

I went to the Huffington Post today to look.

It wasn't even on the front page.

The UC Berkeley riots weren't even on the front page.

How is that possible?

They were practically patting me down on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to make sure I didn't have a bomb on me.

And you were hosting the event.

Right.

This goes on, and it's non-news.

Well, and another part of this, because I know, you know, we can talk, you always say that you talk about people, you talk about ideas, but let's go above that to principle for a second.

You know, after this all happens, we all know how bad it is

where the violence is being caused.

Donald Trump's reaction has now become part of the news, in which he tweeted basically like, yeah, maybe I'll cut off the federal funding for

the university.

It's honestly like a feel-good reaction.

You know, it's like, well, you know what, these people deserve this.

But beyond that, and a larger scale issue to the left for a moment, this is why we say you don't want federal control of your schools.

You put so much control in the federal government when you get someone you don't like, which happened to us for the last eight years and is happening to you now,

you have the ability to control the way funding for education happens and the way it's the way everything from, I mean, with Obama, it was curriculum, it was the things you can and cannot teach, it was

other

safe zones.

It was safe zones.

That all came out from

the poison of political correctness.

It's a great argument to the left to understand why you need to minimize the role of government.

And may I say, everybody is celebrating on the right, not everybody, many are celebrating on the right about these executive orders that he is signing and the way he is bullying people.

I was on the other side of the bullying.

I don't know how many people I have said, I'm here in Hollywood, so

I'm meeting with centrists.

Honestly, I had a conversation with somebody who is

no one would believe he's a centrist.

And we were talking and he said, you know, look, I'm a centrist.

And I almost laughed.

He said, I'm a centrist.

He said, these, the Democratic Party with these, they're communists.

They're communist and they're socialist and they're radicals.

I mean, you know, Hillary Clinton, I mean, I'm just right in the center.

Right, right.

Oh, you're right.

You're exactly right.

But that shows the bubble that they live in here.

But

I'm hoping that there are people out there that are looking at things like this gentleman did, where he said, you know what?

I was fine with the executive orders under Barack Obama.

Probably shouldn't have been fine with that.

No.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You shouldn't be fine with those executive orders.

You shouldn't be fine with our side, shouldn't be fine with someone who is going after the press.

When I said to a few people, I said, do you know that I was, and I said one to a press person, do you know that I was the first person in American history to have not one, but five

White House sponsored boycotts, not officially sponsored by the White House, but people in the White House using their organizations to boycott me.

Did you know that?

No, I didn't.

Huh, why didn't you know that?

I used to say it on Fox all the time.

I can show you how it happened.

I can show you who did it, which organizations were doing it.

I can show you all the evidence.

You didn't see that.

Huh, why?

Oh, that's right.

Because it was your side that did it.

Now you're all up in arms when...

when the White House is calling CNN fake news.

Well, wait a minute.

Didn't Hillary Clinton come out and say that Fox News, you don't even think it's news anymore?

That's why she goes to Al Jazeera?

Oh, yeah, that's right.

You like it when it's happening for your team.

It's why we have to get off of teams and start looking at the, because

if you think that you like what's happening right now with Donald Trump and you're like, get him,

do you think the left is going to suddenly find reason and go, oh, you know what?

We shouldn't play that game.

We should forgive them as they're doing this.

Or do you think in a populist time period, the popular opinion would be, get a guy bigger and meaner than that guy and shove it down their throat next time?

I'm guessing that that's the way it's going to go.

Yeah, I go option B on that one.

Yeah.

I mean, they'll always try to make it.

They'll always try to take a step or two further from where we are.

Progressives do that.

That's what the progressive name means in a real short summary.

We're making progress just in the wrong way.

Right.

It is progressing.

Our civility is

regressing.

It's going the wrong way, but they're making progress towards something.

And of course, the left is much more willing to go to the area of violent riots because they know they'll have at least at some level protection from the media.

They don't get vilified.

I mean, you've spoken about this before pretty recently, Glenn.

You know, Occupy Wall Street went through and were, you know, there were obviously rapes in the middle of this, but they actually wanted to blow up a bridge in Ohio.

And that's a story that almost no one knows.

Caught them on the way, if I'm not mistaken, on the way

to blow the bridge up.

It's that the FBI had infiltrated this group.

I mean, it's frightening.

Nobody knows that story.

And remember when the Tea Party was going on, and you heard all this, like the anti-government Tea Party, they don't want any, they don't want a government.

We used to say, well, actually, they keep talking about the Constitution, which is the basic foundational document of the government.

So they must want some government.

But look.

Hang on just a second.

But before you go into that, let me just point this out.

What happened to those people?

Those people saw that they weren't listened to, that nobody paid attention to them, and

pain was inflicted on them.

They were mocked and ridiculed, and all they wanted was a return to the Constitution.

And so, now the popular feeling is, screw them.

I don't want anything to do with anything.

The whole system is broken.

Burn the damn thing down.

And that's when the radicals who have been saying that, who we've rejected for generations,

step in and say, yes, you're right.

I can help you burn it down.

And I'm not talking about Donald Trump.

I'm talking about the left and the right, the uber fringes.

Yes, I'll help you burn it down.

And the people in the middle cheer.

Thank goodness somebody's finally giving it to them.

And remember, what did they say about, let's say, for example, the Tea Party protests?

They said that

they wanted to dismantle the state.

They were ungovernable.

They didn't care about anything other than

basically starting a war.

Well, this is from Occupy Oakland last night.

In a public tweet, not just one person, the group Occupy Oakland tweets, we won this night.

We will control the streets.

We will liberate the land.

We will fight fascists.

We will dismantle the state.

This is war and we need to become ungovernable is one of their signs.

This is war and we will dismantle the state.

They're actually saying the things they accuse the Tea Party of thinking in the secret backroom meetings before the party or before the marches were organized.

They're saying it during the march.

I was in those secret meetings.

Well, yes,

we met in the mouth of the snake.

Yeah.

The don't tread on me snake.

We used to meet in there.

Remember that?

I can't tell you where we I was blindfolded when I went to that.

Of course.

So I don't know how to get there anymore.

But remember those donuts at that one?

I mean, they were delicious.

They were really good.

The one thing, can I tell you something?

The one thing, we had all of the bakers who were against gays making donuts for us in those meetings.

So it was really, it was, it was, it was at least, we were well fed.

We were well fed.

As you can tell if you watch television.

But I mean, seriously, this is them saying they want to dismantle the state.

This is not us saying it.

It's the people on the left saying it.

But wait.

There's no attention.

Yeah, wait.

That is not entirely true.

That is the stated reason why

Bannon calls himself a Leninist.

The problem is, it is the desire of both sides.

I've told you forever,

there comes a point to where, because we're back on the European railroad tracks that it will become a battle between the fascists and the communists.

Neither one of them like the Constitution.

Neither one of them like what we're doing.

Neither one of them want to repair and restore.

They both want to burn it down.

And it depends on who's in office.

Who has more of their people in?

Do the fascists have their people in or do the communists have their people in i contend the vast majority of people in america are tired of this they want to be i talked to somebody yesterday had lunch with somebody who uh is a big uh uh hillary clinton funder and

beforehand hated it

hated it in 2008 and this time was like i i have to do it

had had lunch with him yesterday He said,

I got to tell you, I just want to be left alone.

I just want to be left alone.

Just don't take my stuff.

Don't tell me how to live.

Don't tell me how to run my business.

Don't tax me to death.

And I said, My friend, welcome to the tea party.

He looked at me and he said,

This is a quote.

This is a very intelligent man.

This is a quote.

You know, you guys, you know,

the ID for voting.

And I said, you don't think people should have ID to vote?

Yes, I do, but it should be just like a driver's license.

Right?

Right?

Well, what do you guys want?

A driver's license.

Well,

wait, then what's the argument about?

You guys want nothing.

Well, that's ridiculous.

Welcome to the tea party.

There's a chance because people are tired and they see that it's not working and they're tired of defending their own side.

We have to stick to principles because the vast majority does not agree with Milo.

It might make them feel good.

And the vast majority does not agree with Occupy Wall Street, although in their secret meeting places, it might make them feel good.

But that's not who they want leading the country.

That's not how they want to end up.

Those are devices to punch back, and then we'll go back.

They'll teach them a lesson, and then we'll go back.

No, it doesn't work that way.

We have to stay pegged to reason and principles.

We are going to get to the leak in the White House because there seems to be a lot of leaks in the White House, and it's disturbing what's happening.

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Let's look into some statistics here, Stu.

Yeah, well, I mean, you talked about voter ID.

It's amazing how people think this is a controversial issue.

It's actually one of the most uniting issues on the docket today.

Almost everybody agrees with it.

Here are the percentages of different groups that oppose voter ID: men, 19%, Women, 19%.

How about over 65, age over 65?

Only 18% oppose it.

But young people, only 18% oppose it.

White people, 17% oppose it.

Black people, this is supposed to be the group that's being benefited by opposing voter ID laws.

Only 26% of African Americans oppose voter ID laws.

You know, again, think about that.

We're in a country where typically the Republican candidate gets less than 10% of the vote.

Only 26% oppose the Republican position on that issue.

In one category,

the lowest approval rating is 74%.

Most of the approval ratings are in the 80s.

Yeah, and Democrats, Glenn, Democrats, only 32% oppose voter ID.

That's how low this is.

This is one of the most popular issues discussed in public discourse today, and yet people still oppose it.

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Is the Washington Post insinuating that Donald Trump doesn't know that Frederick Douglass is dead?

Or are they just saying he doesn't know who he was?

And what did Donald Trump say?

Oh my gosh.

And there's a leak in the White House.

Is this a leak from somebody who doesn't like Donald Trump and is saying, Help me, help me, help me?

Or is this

an intentional leak to discredit the press?

All I know is I'm the one saying, Help me, help me, help me.

I'm trapped in a parallel universe.

Somehow or another, a wormhole opened up about a year ago, and this looks a lot like the universe I come from, but nothing here makes sense.

We begin there right now.

I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand.

Cause we are one,

I will beat my drum,

I have made my choice, we will overcome,

cause we are one.

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Hello, America.

Hmm.

I'm so glad you're here.

We're live from Los Angeles.

The boys are back at the studio.

Stu, you leave for the Super Bowl tomorrow, do you not?

Very excited, Glenn.

Rooting hard for the Atlanta Falcons.

Pat, in the

30 years that I have known him and worked with him for almost 30 years now,

he's never been sick.

I've never seen him take a sick day unless he was literally in surgery.

This is the second day this week

he's been sick.

I think we should start preparing the eulogy.

I was berating him yesterday for coming in.

It's like,

it's not like you're a first-term intern here.

Like everyone knows you're dedicated to the job.

Go home and don't get us sick.

I know.

Well, I think I'm sick from him.

I'm getting something now.

And I think I got it from him when he was coming in earlier this week going,

no, I'm good.

Stop.

Stop.

I had a guy.

I had a guy a week ago in my office come in for a meeting.

He flew into town for a meeting.

I have a meeting with him 11 o'clock.

He walks into my office and I mean, he looks dead.

And I look at him and I'm like,

dude, are you okay?

And he's like, I've just been in the bathroom throwing up.

I've been throwing up for the last day and a half, but I didn't want to miss our meeting.

And I'm like, okay, stop where you are.

Turn around.

Don't touch anything and get out.

Seriously.

Stop it.

There's some weird thing that both Pat and Jeffy believe in.

This odd, I'm a man, so I'm going to come in and get the rest of the office sick thing that maybe was smart when you had to go hunt in the, you know, the 1300s.

and if no food means you die yes you show up to work

I'll never forget when I was at the bottom of the food chain and I was working my way up This is in the 1980s

I had to work on Christmas.

You couldn't be sick.

I literally had the stomach flu and I was vomiting in the garbage can in the control room because I didn't want somebody else to have to come in on Christmas and work for me.

There's that's a kind kind of a good trait.

It's a good

it is a good trait us old school people need to let a little bit of that go because

you get everybody sick Stu's convincing me on that.

It's it's one of those things where you know the flu kills thousands and thousands of people every year So Joe Pat who tested positive for the flu then because he wants to prove to us that day 97 medicine that day 97,000 of his radio career where he showed up for 96,995.

He wants to make sure he gets the extra one in to prove to us for some reason that he's able to drag himself in here looking like he's going to die

and somehow while risking the death of every other employee.

Wow, we think Pat is tough.

Thank God he stayed home.

I berated him all day yesterday.

I don't know about any part of it, but maybe we finally found a cure for that ailment.

By the way,

if you've ever seen the Rubin Report or watched the Rubin report online,

I did an interview with Dave Rubin, and

he is a,

I think, a reformed progressive.

He calls himself now a classic liberal,

and

I'm with him on that one.

I think I'm a classic liberal.

He no longer seems to believe in the big government things

because he realized, wait a minute, I think I was on the wrong side.

Oh, Johnny, these people weren't really saying, they weren't really going where I thought we were going.

And by the way, we should point out to anyone in the audience who doesn't follow the nerd terminology of these past movements, classic liberal, classical liberal essentially means what today's libertarian is, if you want to kind of easily summarize it.

It does not have anything to do with Nancy Pelosi or anything like that.

So you know what's amazing is when you find out the root of the current liberal and conservative, they both came from a speech from FDR.

And he labeled the libertarian, which was the classic liberal, which most people were.

Most people back then were all classic liberals.

Leave me alone.

I'll leave you alone.

But that wasn't working when you were fighting against...

growing the state to control everything.

The classic liberal had to be eliminated.

So because everyone back then was pretty much a classic liberal, he named the Progressive Party of the Left Liberals.

And in the speech, he talked about how we're liberal and we're for the everyday guy.

And the conservative,

the Republicans, are conservative because they just want to conserve the old, tired, and worn-out ways.

And we allowed him

to define those terms.

We allowed the progressives to define who we are.

I am a classic liberal, and I know that it causes a lot of trouble, but

that's not a libertarian exactly.

A classic liberal

can mean libertarian, but it doesn't mean libertarian now means, and I don't think this is what this means either, but this is how it's defined now.

Hey, everybody,

do some

blow off of a hooker's belly today at 3 o'clock because you can.

What?

So a classic liberal needs to be retaken.

Anyway,

the Rubin Report yesterday, they released the first 19 minutes of an interview that we had, and it's really quite fascinating, I think.

And today is the last 19 minutes.

Yeah, they're both up right now.

And

you want to hear it.

Where is it at?

The Rubin Report?

Where do you get it?

On YouTube.

Yeah, YouTube

Rubin Report.

They're both up right now.

Okay.

All right.

Let's talk about this leak in the White House and the reason why I say there's a leak.

AP yesterday came out with a story that Donald Trump told Mexican, the Mexican president that he might invade to combat the bad ombres

that

Mexico just can't control.

And here's the quote: President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call, threatened in a phone call with the Mexican counterpart to send U.S.

troops to stop the bad ombres down there unless the Mexican military does more to control them, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by the Associated Press.

The excerpt of the call did not detail who exactly Trump considered bad ombres, nor.

Can I just stop?

We're talking about the President of the United States in a transcript with a world leader, and I'm actually reading the words bad ombres.

I mean, I expect like a 1960s version of Clint Eastwood to show up,

chewing

a small cigar.

It didn't make it clear the tone or the context of the remark.

It was made Friday morning in a phone call between the leaders.

It also did not contain Mexican President Enrique Peña Ninto's response.

Mexico denies Trump made the threat.

Okay, so what happened?

Everybody, of course, picked it up because that sounds like something that Donald Trump would do.

And

so, and it came from the Associated Press.

However, CNN,

you know, the one engaged in fake news.

Jake Tapper says, My reporting suggests the AP is not quoting a transcript.

It is quoting from an internal White House readout of the Trump Peña Ninto call.

I have an excerpt of the transcript.

We're about to publish what President Trump actually said on the call.

It is not as antagonistic as the readout.

According, now he wrote, according to the expert of the transcript of the call provided to CNN, Trump said, you have some pretty tough hombres, not bad ombres, pretty tough ombres in Mexico that you might need help with.

We are willing to help with that bigly.

But

sure it was big league.

I'm sure of it.

It's always big league.

Thank you.

But they have to be knocked out and you have not done a good job knocking them out.

He made an offer to help with the drug cartels.

Excerpt of the transcript obtained by CNN differs with the eternal readout of the call that wrongly suggested Trump was contemplating sending troops to the border in a hostile way.

Wow.

Again, and who was that?

It was Jake Tapper, yet again?

That was again, Jake Tapper, a guy who has proven himself.

You know, I said to Anderson Cooper last night that somebody asked me recently, and I shouldn't have said this because there are a couple of people that do come to mind.

The question was, and in fact, I think it was in the Rubin Report: do you know anyone who is intellectually curious and intellectually honest?

Now, that is really tough to be curious, to curious enough to go, I'm still exploring the world and I don't have all the answers and I don't know.

Anderson strikes me as that guy that's curious and tries to get it right.

Doesn't mean he does, doesn't mean I agree with him on everything, but I think he's intellectually curious and intellectually honest.

But there are other

reporters who are good.

Jake Tapper is one.

I think Chuck Chuck Todd is trying to get it right on Meet the Press.

But they're few and far between that just don't take it.

Jake Tapper never just takes it and says, oh, well, I've got this report.

He looks into everything, and he did it under Obama.

Oh, yeah.

He's doing it now under Trump.

And here he is being called a guy who just does nothing but fake news, clearing Donald Trump.

Yeah, I mean, he's done a great, I mean, Tapper's record is excellent and lengthy as far as, you know, actually reporting the news and trying to tell the truth.

And it's weird because, I mean, it's, you'd never see, intellectually curious part of that is interesting because you never see people ask the next question.

For example, the other one of these big leaks that came out of the White House last night was this Australia story where we got the reports are Trump got in a screaming match with the

head of Australia and because of this refugee deal, and he doesn't want to take these refugees.

And he said, hey, you know, this could be the next Boston bomber that comes out of this group.

And Obama made some crappy deal.

I don't want to do it.

Well,

okay.

First of all,

even the Australian president is saying that, what is it, Prime Minister, President, whatever it is in Australia, is saying, you know, that's not really how it went.

But of course, you'd kind of expect that, that they would try to tamp it down.

Correct.

But ask the next question.

The reason, why is the deal made in the first place?

Why did Obama have to make this deal in the first place to take 1,800 refugees or whatever the number is?

The reason is because Australia has a much more stringent refugee policy than the one you're complaining about with Donald Trump.

They won't allow anyone who takes a boat to the country to step foot on land.

let alone import them and embrace them as citizens.

They will not even allow any of them to actually step foot on the mainland.

They store them on an offshore island and then must export them to another country who will take them.

That's how hardcore their refugee policy is.

Excuse me, hang on just a second.

Except when it came to the Nazarene Fund, Australia was the biggest

home to the Christian and Yazidi refugees in the world.

We sent Christian and Yazidi refugees to Australia, to the mainland, and set them up in homes

on the mainland.

They just have a problem.

Oh.

Wait a minute.

With the.

Well, I can't say that they have a ban on Muslims.

They just didn't have a problem taking the refugees that were Christian or Yazidi or the ones that are minority religious groups that are being persecuted.

And to be clear, certainly I'm not bashing Australia.

They're a great ally of ours.

I'm bashing the media's perception of

the actual text of the executive order on immigration.

But beyond that, this is specifically tied to people who try to arrive by boat because they've had a huge problem.

They've had a problem with so many people coming in that they've had to make incredibly restrictive laws.

I don't know.

Would you consider the fact that we have 11 million illegal immigrants in this country a reason that we might need to have restrictive laws?

They were talking about hundreds of thousands in Australia.

We're talking about millions and millions and millions of people, some of which have been here multiple decades.

And we are supposed to,

you know, ignore the border problem, ignore the problems with potentially with refugees.

And, you know, there are problems there.

Was the rollout handled well?

You know, the answer to that is no.

But to act as if we are going to bash Trump for a call that he had with Australia when Australia has a more restrictive policy than the one they've been complaining about for the last week is is completely absurd.

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We have Ben Sasse coming on with us.

I think it's at the top of next hour, hour number three.

He is reintroducing the Born Alive legislation,

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What a crazy idea.

I can't believe we have to have a law that says that,

but we do, unfortunately.

He's also going to talk a little bit about SCOTUS.

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He was going to be on with us today, but he had a meeting with the new

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I think he is a fan.

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I'm not smart enough for my friends.

He wrote me some stuff yesterday that I read and I actually read it to a couple of friends here who are in the car and I'm like, okay, can anybody tell me what the hell he's even talking about?

He's just so smart.

And so we'll talk to him a little bit about that and

his take on where we are as a country and where we're headed.

I hope you're going to take some time today to address the bacon shortage.

You have not.

I'm very concerned about the bacon shortage.

Look at me.

Yeah, well, okay.

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You probably do really do.

Jeffy's concerned.

I am concerned about it.

I noticed this yesterday.

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raising the next generation of leaders welcome to the program let me uh let me go to Donna quickly in Ohio she's been holding for a while hello Donna

hi my name's Donovan Donovan Irish oh no no no that's fine Anyway, good morning to you and the boys in Dallas.

And I used to listen to you on my way to NPR in Cincinnati, and I was the only one there that did.

So it's nice to talk to you.

It's a pretty lonely place.

Well, NPR was a lonely place for me, I can tell you that.

I know.

Originally, you were talking about Steve Bannon this morning, and I'm really very interested.

And I have been listening to you, and of course, I've been listening to you for quite a few years.

But how do you find out the real truth?

Because I read snippets, and I read skewed articles, and I read that he's a white supremac.

And

as I listen, I think is he.

Oh, I'm just going to say, is

I'm so sorry.

Is he the opposite of Van Jones?

Is he like the polar opposite of Van Jones?

I think what a great way to describe him.

I think he is

absolutely the Van Jones of the right.

Except I'm not convinced he believes in anything.

Van Jones was a committed communist,

at least at one point in his life.

And then he saw the light when he was sitting in a jail cell and he said that

the new red is green.

And he talked about dropping the radical pose for the radical ends.

And,

you know, he was there early on with the 9-11 Truthers.

And he has dropped that radical pose.

And he was in the White House,

and he talked on record

about how he could speak to any audience because he would learn their language, and he studied people to be able to gain power.

So I've always felt that he was a very dangerous man.

Bannon, I think, is more dangerous because I think Bannon is better at it.

But I also don't know if he actually believes in anything anything

except the destruction of the system and then being on the front lines to help somebody build the new system of tomorrow.

What I take from Bannon and how I arrive at Bannon, I know three very good friends who

are going to be, who will remain nameless, but they are all three people that any conservative, I should say before Trump,

and I'm not saying that these people were never Trumpers.

I'm not even sure where all of them stood.

I'm trying to think.

All three of these people, you would know and respect.

You would say that all three of these people are extraordinarily brave.

One of them is so

afraid of Bannon that they won't

look over their shoulder and say,

I don't even want to, I can't talk about it.

He is such a dangerous man.

The three people that I know who know him, were around him a great deal of time,

are terrified of him.

What you have to do with Bannon is only take his quotes.

His quotes are enough.

His quotes

in Vanity Fair

was,

darkness is a good thing.

Dick Cheney, Darth Darth Vader, and Satan, now that's real power.

You have to take his quote of, I'm a Leninist.

Port Dick Cheney in that quote, by the way.

I know, I know.

There's no reason he gets involved in that mess.

Yeah.

I think he was kind of, that's his tip of the hat to, you know, to

the left making a joke out of it.

He has claimed that he's a Leninist when he was asked, I think it was the LA Times, do you know, Stu?

But I think it was the L.A.

Times and they said wait so you're a Marxist and he said no I don't agree with Marx but I agree with what Lenin did and how he gained power he came in turned the tables upside down and he burned it down to the ground so he could rebuild it I'm a Leninist

that's pretty frightening That's pretty frightening stuff.

I will say, though, Glenn,

one question you asked was, is he a white supremacist?

I think the answer to that is no.

I don't know.

I don't know who I

I've never heard him say anything.

That's why I say I don't know what he believes, if anything.

Well, two things on that.

And because I can understand, obviously, you know, because of the embrace of the alt-right, there's a legitimate question as to whether that would be true.

Two points on this.

One is Ben Shapiro, who is a guy who has been, who is very obviously, does not like Bannon at all, left Breitbart and did not like Bannon at all in the way that he

sort of trashed his own reporters in conflicts with Trump.

But he even said he doesn't think he believes a lot of the things that are out there.

A second point of-wait, wait, but the problem is he uses, I think it's even more dangerous because it's the night of long knives kind of stuff.

He's using those people, and so he will use them until they burn things down, and then you go and you kill them.

Well,

I don't think that he's going to kill them.

No, I'm not.

Lenin did, and so did Hitler.

I mean, if you're a fan, I mean, we would never have given that distinction to Van Jones.

We would have never said, well, he's not going to do that.

We would say, I would hope he wouldn't, but that's who he's saying he is modeling himself after, and that's exactly what Lenin did.

There's a revealing, I think, point on this, though, from the interview he did with a think tank in Europe.

BuzzFeed printed the transcript of this during the campaign, and he was talking about, it was a European think tank, so he was talking about the situation in in Europe and talking about, he was sort of praising, you know, offhandedly sort of the Marine Le Pen group, the National Front, which is known for, you know, real extremism in some circles.

And also deeply in bed and funded by Dugan in Russia.

Yeah.

And so he was kind of praising those things.

However, he pointed out that

There are real problems with it.

There is real racists and things like that in it.

And in the end, I believe it'll all shake out

was essentially his analysis of the situation.

That the fringe people that are involved in the group, once the group becomes more mainstream, will be pushed away, sort of excommunicated, or will join the larger group.

That was...

A lot of people thought about that, thought that in Germany.

And in fact, that's exactly what Lenin, I just keep going back to Lenin because that's what he claims is he's a Leninist.

That's exactly what Lenin said as well.

That's why he is the creator of Democratic Socialist.

He said, I'm not a communist.

I'm a democratic socialist.

I know what communists do.

We're democratic socialist

to try to mitigate the fact that he was such a radical.

Yeah, and I'm not sitting here trying to defend Bennett.

I'm not a fan.

But I think like at least his...

His position as he looks at these groups seems to be, I'll use their energy and in the end, they won't be the movement anyway.

That's a very risky way to go, I think.

But I don't think, I think it indicates that he's not a necessarily a white supremacist who's like, I can't wait until white people run the world.

He just, I think he realizes and recognizes, and I don't think this is a positive thing, but he recognizes that there's a lot of energy among that group, and that has helped him in his rise and sort of

expanding

his worldview.

It sure worked for the Democrats, didn't it?

Because what they did is they recognized that these Marxists, these anarchists,

these radicalized groups, there was a lot of energy there.

And they could channel that energy and use them to help win elections.

And, you know, they just started to co-opt them until somebody like, oh, I don't know,

Joe Lieberman finally came out and said, there is no place for me in this party anymore.

The radicals were like, oh, yeah, we'll come in.

We'll help you.

They didn't fumigate the radicals, did they?

The radicals took over the system.

And that's the problem.

Donovan, I thank you very much for your phone call and thank you for doing your own homework.

Let me go to Mark quickly.

Hello, Mark.

You're on the Glenbeck program.

Hi.

So I read your book, Liars.

I just wanted to thank you for all the connections you drew between

progressives all over the world.

I took APUS history two years ago, and I learned about the people, but I didn't learn anything connecting them.

Wow.

How old are you?

17.

17, and you went out and bought the book, Liars, or did somebody give it to you?

No, actually, I got a sample of it online.

I only read about the first chapter, so I'm planning to go to the library today and check out and read the rest of the book.

You know what?

I tell you what, Mark, you hang on the phone.

I'm going to get your address.

I'm going to send you an autographed copy of it, okay?

So you don't have to.

Yeah, thanks.

Absolutely.

What did you learn in the first chapter that you didn't learn in AP history?

Well, it was particularly about the Cross of Gold sermon.

Drawing

Jennings was his last name, wasn't it?

Yes.

Yeah, drawing connections to him to the guy that came right before Colin, Mark Sternet.

I can't remember his name.

So

you were you were interested in williams jenning brian

no we had learned about it in apus history a few years ago and i didn't know a whole ton about it and i listened to your show every day and so i was curious to um learn more about the progressive movement and how it came about in the united states and stuff like that because i myself and can i consider myself a conservative um but independent so yeah good for you mark i appreciate it i want you to hold on i'm going to get the some information i'll send you a uh i'll send you a book and i'd love to hear

what else you didn't learn.

In fact, I'll send you two copies.

You read one and highlight all the stuff in it that you didn't learn in AP history so I can see it.

Send that one back to me, and you can keep the autograph copy.

Thanks, Mark.

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I remember the first year, Stu, you were, I think you you were behind me in line.

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It was absolutely not me.

Right.

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And we're talking to him about the new SCOTUS, which, by the way, I was

said during the nomination period in the primary that I would be the first to thank you and apologize if

the

Supreme Court nominee was Scalia-like, and he was.

And I believe I actually was the first yesterday to apologize and thank anyone who was telling me all last year, Glenn, it's got to be for SCOTUS.

And I said, he's not going to do it.

Yes, he will.

What evidence?

What proof?

He will.

All right.

Well, if he does, I'll be the first to apologize and say thank you.

If you missed it yesterday, thank you.

You were right.

Okay, Stu, before we get Ben Sass in here,

we have a couple of things.

Bacon, is it you want to talk to Bacon?

Is that what you're talking about?

Let's talk to Bacon because we also haven't done the Australian.

Oh, yeah, we did the Prime Minister of Australia.

Yep.

So give me the bacon update.

All right, 17.8 million pounds.

That's all we have in bacon reserves right now.

That's down from 35 million pounds from the year prior.

Wait a minute.

So we have 17 million pounds?

Yeah, from 35 million pounds to 17.8 million pounds in reserves of bacon.

Jeffy, that will last for you,

you know, four breakfasts?

Well, not on Super Bowl weekend, no.

Maybe two.

Because of the potatoes, but does Idaho have enough potatoes to grind that bacon into on the top for the potato skins?

There's a very scary statement that came out.

Today's pig pig farmers are setting historic records by producing more pigs than ever, yet our reserves are still depleting.

The organization even created a website, bacon shortage.com, and many outlets, including USA Today, NBC, CBS, ran with the news.

But the truth is the frozen reserves are just that.

Reserves.

There will be no rationing at all.

They're saying it's basically fake news.

And even the people who created the bacon shortage website, the Ohio Pork Council, are saying we just thought this was a good marketing tool.

So, no bacon shortage.

So, I ran out to the store last night and stored up all that bacon for no reason.

Well, you'll have to eat through it.

Oh, no.

Darn, my life sucks.

Fake news.

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Tulsi Gabbard and Dennis Kucinich went to Syria and Lebanon this week.

The press asked, Who's paying for your trip?

They said, well, not the taxpayers.

Boy,

probably for the first time in their life, they would have wished that it would have been the taxpayers and they would have only had to deal with that scandal.

Who paid for their trip?

Wait until you hear.

Hamas Hezblah,

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Also, Also, Ben Sasse reintroducing the Born Alive legislation, and he'd like your help and support.

He joins us right now.

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Senator Ben Sass, welcome to the program.

Senator from Nebraska, we're glad to have you on.

Thank you for having me.

Good to be here, Glenn.

So you're reintroducing the Born Alive legislation.

Let's get to this first before we talk about all the other things that are

happening in our world.

Tell me what this is and how we can help.

Yeah, thank you.

Well, this is a bill that ensures that babies who survive an attempted abortion get a fighting chance.

It requires that hospitals and doctors give the same medical attention to an abortion survivor that would have been offered to any premature baby at the same age, and it criminalizes the intentional killing of a baby that was born.

So last week I introduced it with 27 other senators, which is sort of a good thing, but you're like, how in the world is this not introduced with 99 other senators?

It passed the House of Representatives on a bipartisan vote last year, but didn't go anywhere in the Senate.

So please

let your senators know that this is just common sense legislation.

Okay, so I want to make sure I understand this.

This is not you can't do partial birth abortion.

This is if the baby survives the partial birth abortion or any abortion

and is still alive, you can't lock them in a closet so they just die.

You got it.

I mean, there's a lot.

I mean, I'm a solidly pro-life guy on anything we're going to talk about, but this is a different thing than that.

Republicans and Democrats obviously don't agree on a lot of things, but everybody should be able to agree on this, that life isn't disposable.

And when a baby is born, you can't lock her in a closet and just leave her alone and cold to die, struggling for breath.

And, you know,

it's crazy that we haven't yet criminalized it.

And I have to tell you.

Partial birth abortion is so far beyond, I mean, it's into the mangala territory.

It really is.

I don't know.

And the only reason why partial birth abortion is happening is because people don't understand what it is.

There's no life of the mother that is even possible with a partial birth.

She's already given birth to the baby except for the head.

And then they hold the head in the birth canal while they cut its neck and suck its brains out.

It's horrible, that tactic.

I can't believe we need a law to tell doctors that after that

they still can't kill because the

line that they have in their head is, well, it's still inside the woman's body, so you know, that head's still in there, so it's still part of her body.

But once she survives that and the baby is born, why do we have to have a law?

Yeah, I mean, let's back up a tiny little bit, too, and just talk at the macro level about the fact that so much of the pro-life movement is having real success and it's outside of the legislative sphere.

Really good things are happening as young people are becoming more pro-life than the generation above them.

And that's because they're a heavily image-driven culture.

There are a whole bunch of places where we'd have debates about deliberation and reading and reflection where we want all sorts of things to happen in a more orderly way for our teenagers and our twenty-somethings that are coming of age.

But one of the the good effects of the image centricity of this culture, and it's problematic in general, but one of the good things is people are seeing diagnostic technologies of babies in utero, and they're realizing that that's a baby.

It's not a squirrel.

And so there's a lot of good stuff happening in the pro-life movement as people are celebrating a culture of life.

And frankly, as those of us in the pro-life movement are getting better at making sure that we actually are checking our own energies and zeal and consciences to make sure we're loving moms and trying to persuade them, not just try to think this is primarily about legislation, because it's mostly not about legislation.

But in the legislative domain, we ought to be able to start with things that we can agree on.

Americans are the kind of people who cheer for the vulnerable.

We fight for minorities.

We protect the powerless from the powerful.

And a little baby boy or girl that's just been born fighting for their life, I mean, it's the most basic thing that people who are humane defend.

Is this happening very often, Ben?

Well, I mean, we don't know.

highly unlikely that it's happening often, but you remember the Gosnell case a few years ago.

So, I guess about four or five years ago, this Philadelphia abortionist, for those of you listeners who don't know, Kermit Gosnell was convicted of murdering newborns.

I mean, court documents reveal that he made millions of dollars over the course of 30 years performing as many late-term abortions as he could.

So, again, this is the late-term abortion stuff you're talking about.

He had this simple business model, offer abortions to women who couldn't find them elsewhere because they were too pregnant.

And we know that there are cases where he delivered living, breathing, struggling newborns and killed them with the scissors and just discarded them as waste.

And he destroyed his medical files, so relatively few of the cases were prosecuted.

But court documents indicate that he induced an abortion on a 17-year-old woman who was seven and a half months pregnant, and a baby there was born breathing and moving and weighed about six pounds.

And he severed the baby's spine, and he joked that this baby was so big that the baby could have walked him to a bus stop.

But he's in jail, so why do we need this law?

Well,

we need clarity in this movement about the fact that people, I mean, to the point you're making about late-term abortion, late-term or term abortion is totally morally abhorrent.

And there should be movement on a whole bunch of different domains.

But the people who argue against, the people who argue for all abortion on demand all the time without any questioning ever, we need to be having a debate about what life is because the babies in utero are babies, and we need to be able to have that top, that conversation.

Okay.

Ben, last night I was on CNN, and

what I didn't know is about an hour later,

Milo What's His Face from Breitbart, who is a despicable alt-right

guy

who has said we live in a post-fact world and I revel in that because you can do whatever you want,

wasn't had a talk scheduled

at UC Berkeley.

Then the anarchists, not the anti-Trump, the anti-government people,

the Occupy Wall Street that said afterwards,

this was a victory and we're going to burn the whole system down and take the government down, and this is war.

These two were going at it last night.

There's no good party here.

I said last night on CNN, I asked the press, you guys keep punching Donald Trump.

We know that when you punch him, he punches back twice as hard.

So that means you're going to have to punch him back, and then he'll punch you back.

I feel like I'm the computer in war games.

The only way to win is to not play the game.

And I ask the question for the left and the right:

how do you see this ending?

How do you see one side winning?

Yeah,

so so many things to say there.

So let me just start by admitting that I don't know the details of what happened last night.

I, you know, saw some headlines this morning about some of the debates at Berkeley and whatnot.

But let's just step back from that for a minute and say

America has always been an idea founded on the premise that we're not going to agree.

Thoughtful people, people who are grappling with mortality and heaven and hell and love and beauty and truth, are not going to agree on everything.

And so we have to decide what things do you solve by power and what things do you not solve by power.

And the vast majority of life is not about power.

It is not about politics.

The vast majority of life is about persuasion.

It's about volunteerism.

It's about entrepreneurship.

It's about love.

The vast majority of life is the things that you persuade people to join with you in doing and that you figure out a way to lovingly disagree about with people that you can't persuade on things, often in our own families and in our own neighborhoods and our own companies and our own churches, etc., right?

So the vast majority of life is about these places where we debate lovingly, winsomely, but you don't try to solve these problems by power.

And so the First Amendment, the freedom of speech, press, religion, assembly, protest, or the redress of grievances, all of these things are a way of saying there's a difference between physical violence, which government exists to protect us from, and you can't let that word violence drift into places where we're having debates.

We need to have the debates.

A safe space movement is the antithesis of education.

If you're never going to encounter an idea that you didn't already know, if you're never going to refine your own beliefs, if you're never going to have to admit, hey, I was wrong on this, or come to say, you know what, I think I'm right on this, and now I know how to explain it with a little more empathy and a little more persuasion with people who disagree with me.

I don't know why mom and dad are writing a tuition check.

The purpose of education is, frankly, to be pushed out of your safe spaces.

It's so true.

As Senator Ben Sass, we're talking to right now, Senator, can we move to the Supreme Court?

You mentioned really our foundational principles as you were speaking there.

And

I got to admit, I was a skeptic on whether Trump would actually come up with somebody who really respected the Constitution to be named to the Supreme Court.

I think he hit that mark, and I think he hit it in a really impressive way.

Can you tell us about Senator Justice Gorsuch or hopeful Justice Gorsuch?

Let's applaud the president.

This is a tremendous pick.

This is the kind of guy that the founders envisioned serving on the Supreme Court.

He's a judge's judge.

I really do want to applaud the president and his team on picking somebody off the list of 21.

They campaigned about it.

They were transparent.

Many of us have disagreed with the president on

a number of things

and whatnot.

But on this, he kept his word.

He picks somebody off the list of 21, and frankly, he picks somebody great off the list of 21.

I've been I've been reading Judge Gorsuch's opinions, uh, dabbling in them for three weeks when it became clear that he was one of the likely finalists, and I don't have a clue what his policy views are.

I don't know what his personal preferences are on things, and frankly, I don't care.

That's not a judge's job, and he gets what a judge's job is.

He's a worthy heir to the scalia seat.

Yeah, and that's really impressive.

One of the things that I think is important is you read this

in many of the reviews about it, and I'm sure you can speak much more eloquently than I can on it, but the things like the Dormant Commerce Clause, which to me, if it is dormant, it's not in the actual Constitution, which is kind of a problem.

And it seems like Gorsuch has that same problem.

Well, I mean, you know, you guys are pros at mass communication.

And, you know, the one thing that I know about a national talk radio audience is the main thing they want on a Thursday morning is for dissenting views on the history of the Commerce Clause.

So, I mean, let's just say top line.

I mean, the Dormant Commerce Clause relates to what states can do with regard to taxes and regulations that would impact people in other states.

And there are lots of nerdy debates here.

And I think I'm

one of only a handful of people in the whole U.S.

Senate who's not an attorney, let alone the fact that I'm serving on the Judiciary Committee.

So like Chairman Grassley from Iowa, we are the non-technical nerds on the Judiciary Committee.

But the big point to be made is that the Commerce Clause has just swallowed up almost everything.

So many things.

Government finds a way to try to claim that it has the authority to get to through the Commerce Clause, and that's a mess.

Underneath that, there are a lot of nerdy debates about the Commerce Clause in general and the Dormant Commerce Clause, as you flag.

Our entire audience is a bunch of nerds, so they appreciate the Commerce Clause talk in the morning.

I really thought you had an audience bigger than 11, but I stand correct.

Senator Ben Sasse, we actually lost connection with Glenn here in the middle of this, but it was really interesting to

listen to you.

And

I think a lot of people came to, after the election, were really worried about what Trump might do with the Supreme Court.

And not only

am I thrilled, I think it's also a real statement on people like yourself who oppose him on some of this, but was able to say, look, when he does a good job, we're going to say it.

And that's the most important thing we can do.

Amen.

I mean, you know, Gorsuch is the kind of guy that becomes an occasion for us to teach our kids civics.

I mean, this is the guy who, I mean, he writes really clearly.

I mean, he says things like, judges are different than politicians because we took an oath to apply the law as it is, not to reshape the law as we wish it were.

Well, that's pretty darn good schoolhouse rock right there.

The Congress is the people, we're the people who are supposed to make policy because ultimately the voters of America are supposed to be preeminent and they can hire and fire us.

If you're a judge and you have a lifetime appointment, you don't get to make policy because the people can't fire you.

That's not the American way.

And so a judge has a different job, and this guy gets that.

And frankly, I really really do hope Democrats come around to recognizing that this is the kind of guy that everybody should be applauding.

When he takes off his robe at night and turns on ESPN, I have no idea what his personal policy views are.

What I know is he distinguishes between the time he had his robe on and the time when he has his robe off.

And when he has the robe on, he's not a super legislator.

Senator Ben Sass, I'm actually back.

We just reconnected it, but I've been listening to the whole thing.

I have one more question.

Can you hold for just a few minutes?

I have to go into a hearing moment too.

I can take him over for two.

I tell tell you what.

No, I tell you what.

Why don't you go and we'll have you back on next week?

Because I wanted to ask you a couple of other questions.

Thank you so much.

Hey, by the way, when they were talking Dormant Commerce Clause, Glenn, we heard you snoring.

No, I was actually fascinated by it.

I was one of the 11.

So thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

All right.

Senator Ben Sass.

Good guy

and held to his principles.

And it's good to hear him say that about Gorsuch.

And now this.

It would be prudent on our part to examine the possible negative side effects of doing away with cash

or the possible negative side effects of saying that, oh, the problems are all fixed.

I want to talk to you about...

I want to talk to you about a meeting I had

here in Los Angeles with some very big financial people, and I said, what do you think is coming?

And the gobbledygook that came out of their mouth, I hope they're right.

I said to them, I hope you're right.

But they were talking to me about how, oh, this $4 trillion that we printed, they could print more and it's not really going to affect us.

Oh, we could have tariffs and it won't be a big deal.

We could pretty much wall ourselves off from the rest of the world and it won't affect our economy.

Oh, this, the housing market, that's not a bubble and neither is Wall Street.

Those are all,

it was incredible to listen to.

It was really incredible.

The next meeting I had was with a billionaire, okay?

And I sat down with him and he said, Where do you think the world's headed?

And I said, That's what I wanted to ask you.

And he said, Oh my gosh, the world is headed for an implosion.

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Are we there yet, kids?

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This is the end, my friends, and it is time to say goodbye.

And I realize that this is the worst possible time for a political columnist to retire.

But what I really didn't realize is that any of you cared.

These are the words of Roger Simon.

He is retiring, and this is what he wrote.

I've been flooded.

No, really, you could read them with messages on Facebook and Twitter asking me not to retire.

Not now.

I'm told when America really needs voices of reason.

I know, I know.

It's preposterous.

It's laughable.

But not to some.

For some, I have been the friend they have never met for more than 50 or 40 years.

And for all of those years, my job took me all over the world.

Now, my wife wants to see the world with me.

As I said, bad timing.

So, instead of the usual goopy farewell, I'll actually speak my mind.

And I do so, understanding that many will disagree with me.

Mine enemies grow older, Alexander King, social critic, once wrote.

It's one of the comforts we of columnists have.

He talks about the pivotal time that we live in, and a time

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Okay, I want to read this article real quick, and then we're going to get to Syria.

And

one of the things that some of our congressmen have been doing over in Syria, it's pretty amazing.

But I want to tell you, this came from Roger Simon.

Now, I don't agree with Roger Simon at all, and you're not going to agree with what he says here about President Trump at all.

But I want you to read it.

In fact, maybe I'll read it.

Everywhere I put Barack Obama,

he's putting Donald Trump.

But I want you to hear it because it's exactly what you felt when Barack Obama was in office, which I believe gives us a point of connection to make the case of constitutional rule.

Because no one should feel this way because a president is in office, one you don't like.

So

I know, I know, it's preposterous, blah, blah, blah.

We live at a pivotal time because Barack Obama and his thugs have done us a favor.

They have shown us that democracy is not inevitable.

They have shown us that it can fail.

Now he wrote it as Donald Trump.

But that is a phrase that could have very easily been written by anybody in the Tea Party.

In just a matter of days, they have shown us how democracy can be transformed into something evil.

We can imagine a future of jack boots crashing through our doors at 2 a.m., trucks in the streets to take people away to the internment camps, bright lights, barking dogs, and worse.

Does this make me sound hysterical?

Maybe, but this is my last chance to be.

In the first week, he writes the Trump administration demonstrated its contempt for Mexicans, Muslims, and Jews.

You could say

Barack Obama demonstrated his contempt for the people in the middle of the country, conservatives and religious gun owners.

Should we keep quiet as we watch this?

Is this why America was created?

The most important poll was created by Henry David Thoreau when he wrote, any man

has more right than his, no man has more right than his neighbors because he constitutes a majority of one.

You are a majority of one, and you have a duty to act like it.

You have a duty to do something to preserve democracy.

I disagree with that, to preserve the republic.

Something non-violent, I hope, but something.

Let me, I mean, I have to rephrase too much of this, but I could say the same thing about Barack Obama.

Trump tells civil rights leader John Lewis to keep his mouth shut, and then Trump smiles his smile.

In what fantasy land, in what delusional world

would one desire the words of Donald Trump and the silence of John Lewis?

I hear that George Orwell's classic 1984 is popular again.

Good.

It's a great read with a real message, but don't get carried away.

There's a spoiler alert.

The bad guys win in the end.

Their tentacles of power have reached too deeply and spread too far.

We're told today the truth no longer matters.

It does.

We're told human decency is the concern of the weak.

It isn't.

We're told that civil liberties can be brushed aside when it's convenient to the wielders of power to do so.

Such people should be stopped.

They must be stopped.

I can make that case about the IRS.

I can make that case about the NSA.

I can make that case about the secret courts that were put in under a Bush administration, expanded under a Obama administration.

You see, people ask me all the time, what do we have in common?

Everything,

even the struggle.

This is why I'm saying you have to listen to people and say, first, I know how you're feeling.

Because I read this and I could read this and say, how dare you say this about Donald Trump after you just spent eight years.

That's what, that's what we might as well do that.

Let's just bark like dogs at one another.

Or we could say, sincerely, I know how you feel.

And you're afraid of the abuse of the same things I was afraid of on your side.

But my side wouldn't have done it.

Well, but I don't know that.

And your side was doing it.

Your side used the IRS to go after people like me.

Your side went after some of our

journalists.

Barack Obama.

put some in jail were spying on others.

It did happen.

You just didn't know it because the press didn't report it.

That can't be true.

We've got Google, man.

Let's look it up right now together.

It did.

And I'm not sitting here to go say, see, you guys started it.

I'm just saying, stop.

We have this in common.

I don't have to go further.

We have this in common.

What are they afraid of?

The suspension of civil rights.

What am I afraid of?

The suspension of the Bill of Rights.

It's the same thing.

We're not that far apart.

We just have to stop yapping at each other like dogs.

We just have to stop pointing fingers.

You notice what a word he used in here?

That would set you off.

Because it did me.

He said, just a matter of days.

They've shown us how democracy can be transformed into something evil.

Oh.

Gorsuch, is he evil?

Is he evil?

Is a pause on let's see how we're vetting people for 60 days, is that evil?

Now, it might turn into a Muslim ban.

I don't think so, but it might.

And if it does, then yes, probably evil.

And I'll stand with you to fight a Muslim ban.

Nobody of that religion's coming in.

That's un-American.

I'll stand with you.

We have to get away from the names

and the people

and even the events

and look at what is his idea here.

What is the idea of this article?

The idea of this article is

our republic is at stake.

Our rights are at stake.

You agree with that.

But what happens is the small minds talk about the people.

Don't get me wrong.

I'm not saying I'm some great mind.

I read this quote about three months ago and decided I have to live this way.

Small minds talk about people.

Average minds talk about events.

Truly exceptional minds talk about ideas.

The news, it's all about Donald Trump and either how good he is or how evil he is.

Small minds.

They're talking about the event.

They're talking about the Muslim ban and that event.

Is that event, does that mean this or does that mean that?

I'd like to talk about the idea.

The idea is no man should be afraid of any president, no matter what side.

No person in America should be afraid of the IRS coming and turning you upside upside down because of what you believe, or

the

jack-booted thugs kicking down your door because you believe something and you're nonviolent.

Nobody, nobody should have to worry about the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street setting the world on fire and trying to overthrow the government.

But because everybody's been playing the game of it's my person I want to win, I want Barack Obama or I want Donald Trump,

will blame the people.

Occupy Wall Street.

No, they're blameless.

Because my guy, my person,

they're on his side.

And look at those Tea Party people.

Look how evil.

They want to destroy the government.

No, no, they don't.

And then you ignore it.

Go out and read.

Go read the Huffington Post.

See how they're condemning Occupy Wall Street or Occupy,

not San Francisco, Oakland last night for what they did in Berkeley.

Oh, they're not.

Why?

Because they're still about people.

Roger Simon wrote a great half of a great farewell, but he still made it about people.

I read it to you by inserting Barack Obama so you could see.

If I just changed the president, you agree with him.

Why?

Because the idea

is what we agree on.

The idea of America is what made us great.

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So, Tulsi Gabbard, Dennis Gucinich,

and two others

were going to Syria and Lebanon this week.

During the visit, they met with

Al Saad, Al-Assad, and

a couple of other people.

They were asked who financed the trip, and her press secretary said, well, it's not paid for by the American taxpayers.

Well, the Daily Beast looked into it, and it is

Access Ohio.

Now, who is Access Ohio?

A-A-C-C-E-S-S.

It is the Arab American Community Center for Economic and Social Services.

Well, there's nothing wrong with Access Ohio, right?

Well,

unfortunately, the two people that she went with, Bassam and Elie Kawam,

are both officials in the Syrian

Social

Nationalist Party.

Hmm, what is the Social Nationalist Party?

Well, now we're hearing nationalism is good, right?

And socialism is good.

Not when you combine them.

This is an organization that was founded in Lebanon in 1932.

So the SSNP

is the Nazi party of Syria.

They have a long history of terrorism against the West and within the region, spanning decades.

They were founded in 1932.

They were one of Nazi Germany's earliest and most

passionate supporters.

This is what they described.

They described the influence that the SSNP had on the Nazis.

From the Hitlerite Germany, we borrowed the symbolism and the rituals from the SSNP based on the National Socialist model.

The party's emblem, a red vortex on a white ground framed in black, that recreated the spiral motion of the swastika.

Also, the martial salute with the arms outstretched and the cult of leader.

They said Zayim

instead of

Heil Hitler,

they said

Taya

Surya, or something like that.

They also glorified violence.

This is the Syrian Nazi Party

paying

for our leadership to go and see what's really happening in Syria.

Our leadership either knows or doesn't care

that there is a Syrian Nazi party that is located in Ohio

with the acronym Access,

Ohio.

But nothing to see here, people.

I'm sure it's just a conspiracy theory.

Let me go to Marlene in Delaware quickly.

Hello, Marlene.

Hi, hi, hi, hi, Glenn.

I'm so glad to get a chance to talk to you.

I used to watch you when you're on Fox.

I didn't understand you all the time, but I want to say I love you.

Thank you.

And I wanted to say, I think I am a Democrat, but I voted for Donald Trump because I'm a Christian.

I'm a believer.

believer and the thing the main thing for me was the Supreme Court justice and Israel and abortion but I want to say that a lot of African Americans who don't think like the far left I think we believe a lot we we take a lot of what we hear on the news CNN and Fox with we we we hear it through our culture and I think sometimes we get caught up in what we believe like I didn't I didn't vote for Barack Obama the second term because I didn't agree with a lot of stuff he did in the first term.

But I used to feel offended when I would hear people talk about him because I think for us it was a big deal that in our lifetime we saw a black man as president.

But the bottom line is our principles were changed.

And I want to say I agree with a lot of things that you say and I wish I had a voice when I'm looking at CNN and Fox to say, no, we don't really all feel that way.

We want people to have IDs.

We want I want my four grandsons to have principles that go beyond their culture.

And I want them to understand that.

And so I teach them that.

And I get a lot of flack for listening to you and Fox, you know, but I turn Fox off and on because I think that they are going to be the MSNBC to President Trump as MSNBC was to Obama on some level, maybe not all of it.

So I just felt like I just needed to tell you that there's a lot of us that listen to you that we agree with you and we do have a lot more in common and I think that's why there should be a diverse

personnel around the table on all of these shows that say, no, that's not how we feel.

But I want to hear what you have to say.

And then now I understand it.

So I kept listening to you, and I get it.

Thank you, Marlene.

I sure appreciate it.

What a great compliment and way to end the broadcast from Los Angeles.

Stu, is there anything that we've missed before we hit the happy trails?

Well, I think we should get your Super Bowl pick.

What are you thinking?

I think it's going to be the

up north

against the guys who are

in the more western part of the country.

Well, there's really no West Coast team.

No, but more western than the other team.

I mean, I guess that you're saying Atlanta, but you said north.

Ah, Atlanta.

Well, yeah, but that's...

North is the other team.

New England.

Yeah, and then you have the kind of south, but more west than New England would be Atlanta, so that's my analysis.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Mercury.