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Great, Glenn.

How are you?

I am really good.

It's, you know, it's Friday.

I thought we'd go over some of the big stories of the week, and one of them that we really haven't had a chance to address this week is Ian Andre Roberts.

He is, at the beginning of the week, he is that poor guy that ICE is just going in.

Here he is, the superintendent of schools for Des Moines Public Schools.

He is well known.

He is well qualified.

He's an upstanding member of our community.

And ICE just comes in, guns blazing, wearing masks, no indication of even who they are, and they just take him.

Yeah, yeah, I've read that.

I love, you know, a sleepy city is moved to protest for a beloved superintendent detained by ICE.

Dozens of the city.

Was that one of the headlines?

That was one of the NBC News headline.

Oh, my God.

Several dozen students gathered at the state capitol calling for his release, holding signs reading, radical empathy, a tagline he frequently used.

Oh, my gosh.

I love that.

During rush hour, people displayed a banner from a bridge over the interstate reading, free Dr.

Roberts.

Dozens of cars honked.

And, And, you know, when cars honk, you know, it's a real cause.

No, no, no.

And, you know, that's showing your support.

I'm willing to honk.

That was the main thing that happened in Nazi Germany.

When the SS would roll into town, there would be a bunch of people honking in protest.

And that's how you knew they were Nazis.

There was a walkout of students.

And then you had Jackie Norris, who is a former Michelle Obama

aide.

She's kind of in the middle of this.

She says,

you know, she wants wants to, it's fitting to take a page out of Dr.

Roberts' book and ask the community to engage in radical empathy.

They kept saying this over and over again.

As we walk through the situation together, we do not have all the facts.

During his time with our district, he has shown up in ways big and small.

And that's

definitely true.

That one definitely true.

No,

that was true.

First of all, I'm not sure he is a doctor.

I mean, I know now what we have found out during the week is he played doctor doctor a lot in many ways, you know, in the

way you play doctor and the way that you just like, yeah, I graduated from MIT.

I got my doctorate here, here, and here.

I mean, listen to the guy.

Let's see here.

His credentials.

First of all,

he got, he was at Sloan School of Management from MIT, got an MBA from MIT.

Then he also attended Harvard and Georgetown.

He got his doctorate degree from Baltimore's Morgan State University.

And there was another one, too, I believe, that he went to.

The deal, he didn't go to any of those schools.

And he didn't have any of that.

He didn't have any of that.

He came over from Ghana

and

overstayed his visa, was here illegally.

Under the Biden administration, he was ordered to be deported under the Biden administration.

That's kind of that.

That's a tough, that's, that's a, I mean, that's a pretty high bar you have to cross to be deported by Joe Biden.

Uh, but he, uh, he wasn't because, you know, well, they're not just going to go out and get this guy.

I mean, and he was busy.

He had a lot of things that he was working on.

A lot of them seemed to be women.

Um,

you know, he was up, he was up

doing his DEI, you know, school board thing in Pennsylvania,

and apparently he was caught having sex with a female co-worker on school property

in his role as superintendent, who was being a bad girl.

The people up in Pennsylvania described him as a sketchy figure and a pathological liar.

And they felt that he had been hired there because of diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Now, when he went to Des Moines, it's another, yep, DEI.

He became the DEI guy.

And,

you know,

people up in Pennsylvania said, I'm not sure he's a legal resident.

And they ignored that because nobody wanted to see it.

Up in Pennsylvania, nobody wanted to see because of DEI.

Everybody was just like,

when he went to Des Moines, same thing.

He's a pathological liar.

He just told this person that he's married and has three kids.

This person, he told he has no kids and he's not married.

I mean, he's a pathological liar.

He would lie about almost everything.

But when they would bring it up, again,

everybody in power would say, How dare you?

Racist.

I can't believe.

They ignored everything that they had said.

Okay.

He hasn't been legally here since 2020.

He was arrested by ICE on September 26th.

Why?

Well, because he knew he was going to be deported

and

he was found hiding in bushes.

Oh my gosh, how degrading for him.

How degrading for him.

Well, the school-owned vehicle that he was driving contained a fixed-blade hunting knife.

I'm not sure if he was a big hunter or not.

A loaded Glock 19 firearm and $3,000 in cash.

Now, how did this illegal get a Glock?

Especially since he had already been arrested in 2020 for possessing an illegal firearm.

Did he not care about the law?

Stu?

Did he not care about the law?

Is that what happened there?

Some people are saying that,

but in reality,

we don't really know if it was an illegal firearm because since he was illegal, all firearms he would have would be illegal.

There's no path to my, unless you're, I guess, maybe in Gavino.

I'm not a firearm possessed by an illegal, then because of the double negative.

I'm not a school superintendent.

I don't know.

Does it cancel it out and suddenly everything is legal?

Yeah, yeah.

That was one of those

PBS scholastic songs about that.

I'm pretty sure

the double negative cancels your crime out.

Yeah, I remember that song.

That's right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Apparently, when he was up in Mill Creek as the superintendent up in Pennsylvania, you know, he was caught having sex, blah, blah, blah.

The school district was inundated, I'm quoting, inundated by lawsuits, forced to pay out over $400,000 in sex discrimination settlements

because he was promoting less qualified women over more deserving men, apparently.

That's part of it.

And, you know, I think the sex thing with everybody was also a problem.

They were in the process of negotiating a $250,000 settlement with Melody Ellington

because she apparently was fired for constructive discharge.

Now, that sounds

not real.

That can't be real.

No, it sounds like something that you go see your doctor about.

I think I have some constructive discharge here.

Constructive discharge.

I didn't know what that was.

I had to look that one up.

It applies to, I'm quoting, applies to situations when a resignation is involuntary.

Okay.

Resignation is involuntary.

That means you're being fired, I think.

When your resignation is involuntary due to a hostile or intolerable work environment.

Right.

Well, it could be like getting pressured into quitting, right?

I mean, I think the seeming accusation here is that he was trying to get rid of her for some other reason other than her job, which, again, we can, considering all the other accusations against him, we can guess what this revolved around.

But does constructive discharge sound like some sort of PC thing that doesn't tell you anything?

Yes, it does.

Yes.

It just sounds like a bunch of nonsense.

But if you think about it, it's like, you know,

you know, you're getting rid of somebody for some reason that is, you know, constructed, right?

It's that, what was the term you used the other day?

The

false construct?

And you were like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I can't listen to anybody.

Maybe being fired.

My resignation is a false construct.

Right.

Yeah.

That it is.

Bet it is.

And by the way, that particular settlement, which was a quarter of a million dollars, a lot of money.

You wouldn't want to hire someone who's in the middle of that.

That was being settled right at the time he was getting the job in Des Moines.

Like it was in the middle of the settlement when he was like, I'm going to go to Des Moines and get it, go to a bigger city and get a bigger job.

So, my question is, how did he get this job?

I mean,

there is

serious corruption in the vetting in Des Moines.

And quite honestly, Mill Creek.

Now, Mill Creek, this is the one up in Pennsylvania.

Mill Creek said they followed a vetting and search process by a recruitment firm, Ray and Associates.

And the recruitment company didn't respond to the request for information from journalists like us.

But the school district said we received all clearances, including an FBI background check prior to Roberts serving as superintendent.

No disqualifying events were identified.

Okay.

Well, that's weird because he had charges against him.

you know, of illegal possession of a firearm that you would think schools would go, oh, that is a problem.

But here's the thing.

Ray and Associates.

Now, this may mean nothing, but

me thinks there's something rotten in Minnesota.

This Ray and Associates that did all the vetting on this guy is from Minneapolis.

And

that just could be my bias on what's happening in Minneapolis and how Minneapolis is being run and how Minnesota is being run.

So I don't know anything about Ray and Associates, but we will soon.

We will be looking into them.

It's just this whole

system of corruption.

How do you

hire somebody like this?

How do you clear somebody like this?

The people in

Des Moines,

he shouldn't be the only one that's gone here.

Who vetted him?

Who hired him?

Well,

I love the story of our friend Jackie Norris because, you know, if you remember, former Michelle Obama aide was out there saying, you know, we need to show radical empathy and all this.

And then all this stuff comes out and you think, okay, she's got to be, what, in hiding?

She's probably resigned.

Like, there's this really embarrassing

thing.

Well, what is she actually doing right now?

She's running for U.S.

Senate because, of course, she's running for U.S.

Senate.

What better way to qualify you for a Senate run than this particular scandal?

None of this stuff matters to the left.

None of this matters to the left.

This is why you must be a merit-based society.

Because if you're just going to say, well, DEI, he's good at DEI, which apparently he wasn't good at DEI,

he's good at that.

And you know what?

We need a hire that has his, you know,

he's an immigrant.

He's black.

He apparently is very, very sexy.

He's got all these degrees.

Well, does he have all those degrees?

I mean, pathological liar, you just hired him because he's settling a lawsuit for sex discrimination and you still hire him?

Because it doesn't matter.

The crime doesn't matter.

His past doesn't really matter.

Whether he went to these schools or not doesn't matter because he's going to help us on this, the DEI thing.

Until America comes to a place to where they can recognize this is all a sham and you actually have to have real standards based on real merit, this is going to continue to happen.

And until people like Michelle Obama's, what is her name?

In what state is she running for?

In Iowa.

Jackie Norris is her name.

And she's running for Senate in Iowa.

Iowa, you're going to get exactly what you deserve.

Unfortunately, so will the rest of us because she's running for U.S.

Senate.

But you're going to get exactly what you deserve until you start saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

How did this happen?

Who hired this person?

And fire all of the people involved in this and fire all the people.

There were teachers, there were people on the school board.

Apparently, they were all saying, hey, this is something's wrong here.

We should check into this.

Those people should be elevated.

And the people who told them, shut up and sit down, those people should be fired.

That's what common sense Iowa people would have done when common sense actually existed.

Does it exist in Iowa anymore?

We'll see.

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in a case in Washington, D.C.

You know, the guy, Nicholas Rosk, you remember his name at all?

He was the guy who tried to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh and then

was going to kill everybody else.

The judge is going to sentence him, okay?

And

the feds are asking for a 30-year prison sentence, and they're saying it has to be 30 years.

You have to send a strong message.

You can't mess around with threatening and trying to assassinate a Supreme Court justice.

Does that make sense to everybody?

Is that common sense to everybody?

Anybody listening to me right now?

Do you think no matter which side it is, the person should be made example of, you should make it very, very clear you cannot attempt to kill a Supreme Court justice?

Period.

Right.

Okay?

I think we all agree on that.

That's what the federal government is telling the judge to do.

But

the family is coming out because now, what was his first name?

Nicholas.

Nicholas is now Sophie.

He decided when he got to prison or to jail and going through trial that he is suddenly a she.

And so now he's using female pronouns.

And the family members are pleading,

pleading to just

relinquish him to our care because, quote,

Sophie needs therapy, relaxation, and the outdoors in order for him to ultimately thrive.

She also, the sister, expressed fears about him being placed in a male prison with limited access to gender-affirming care.

Placing Sophie in long-term incarceration would stunt her ability to thrive and severely impact her overall life trajectory.

Huh, that's interesting.

You know what would have stopped Brett Kavanaugh's overall life trajectory?

Your brother.

Now, this is from Olivia Rosk, the gay sister of the attempted assassin.

Sophie needs a balanced life and appropriate support from loving people, not incarceration.

Luckily, she has many loved ones eager to show her support, and we need her home in order to provide that for her.

Sophie has so much to offer the world.

May I ask that you allow her to live that out fully?

May I just suggest, if this judge decides to let her live this out fully in the open outdoors with her family,

maybe we should talk about repealing the judge.

I am hoping, but I have very little confidence, but I am hoping that someone on the bench in the District of Columbia doesn't agree with the family on this one.

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But there's a couple of other things that are going on.

First of all, we have a podcast out today.

And if you're on Blaze TV or you're

a member of my YouTube channel, it'll be there for you wherever you get your podcast tomorrow.

But Jonathan Haidt is, I think,

is one of the most honest searchers for actual data points on what is happening in our society.

He is a

society scientist, behavioral scientist, social psychologist.

And he's been studying what's been happening to us.

And he was on the, he was really a firm Democrat back in the mid-2000s.

He was not a fan of mine.

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Why are people like Glenn Beck doing this?

And so he decided to actually watch.

and then listen to my show.

And he did.

And then he started listening to others.

And he said, I broke through my understanding because of you, Glenn.

He talks about this in this podcast.

He said, because of the language that you use, you said things differently than other people.

And he said, I understood.

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

I think I'm wrong.

I may not agree, but

this movement on the right is not what I think it is.

Okay.

And he wrote after that, what was the name of that book that he wrote that was so good?

Do you remember, Stu?

Yes.

Gosh, we

righteous mind.

Yeah.

The righteous mind.

Right.

Yep.

And he talks about how language is different and is separating us, but we might be saying many of the same things.

He's been studying all kinds of things, including for the last 10 years, he's really been focused on what's happening to our kids.

And

he now has a huge body of evidence that it is social media and our phones.

And you can't give your kids a smartphone.

You can't.

I wish I had this information and all of the data to back it up.

You know, there are schools now that are banning smartphones, banning all phones really all during school.

This has to be done.

You cannot give your kids a smartphone until at least 16 or 17 years old.

They can't be on social media.

And we talked about the

where is all of this anxiety coming from?

Where is all of this coming from and the depression and everything else?

Can you give me some of the facts?

Listen to what he said.

Our kids moved their social lives onto social media platforms around 2012, 2013, and the results have been completely disastrous.

So I've been assembling the evidence for this because I'm arguing there's some other psychologists who say, no, there's no evidence of harm.

No, it's just a correlation.

Correlation doesn't prove causation.

And I'll just, just to tick down the evidence that social media is bad for our kids.

The first thing is that the kids themselves say that.

When you survey high school kids and college kids and kids in their young people in their 20s, they're not grateful for this.

They say this was really bad for us, but I had to stay.

I couldn't quit because everyone else was on it.

We have testimony from the parents.

Parents know their kids.

They almost universally hate this stuff.

They don't see it helping their kids.

We have confessions from the perpetrators.

We have all kinds of documents, leaks,

reports that came out in lawsuits, where we hear them talking about all the harm they're causing and all the things they're doing to cause addiction.

These platforms are designed to grab our kids' attention and never let go because if they let go, it's going to go to their competitor.

There are correlational studies, there are experimental studies, there are so many different studies that all point to a degree of harm.

So I think now that the case is pretty much closed,

the argument that, oh, well, we just don't know.

We need to gather more information.

You know, that was a tobacco industry playbook decades ago.

And Meta, you know, social media, especially Meta,

they're literally copying the tobacco playbook.

I mean, a lot of people have written about this.

So I think this is,

I was about to say evil, but we've talked about that.

Yes, you know what?

It's an evil industry in the same way that you were talking about.

I don't, look, the people who work there, I'm not saying are evil, except for maybe a couple of the leaders who know what they're doing.

But the company, the companies, especially TikTok, Meta, and Snapchat, those three three companies are harming children at an industrial scale.

We're not just talking like a few hundred kids.

We're talking literally tens of millions are harmed and thousands are dead.

So I do think that this is having a very pernicious effect on society, on children.

So, and I want to get into, you know, real world and virtual world and

what it's doing to our kids.

But let me jump forward here for a second.

Have you thought about what does this mean for this generation in 30 years?

Oh, yes, I think a lot about that.

So here's the way to think about it.

Human development is really

complicated, and kids need a lot of experience in the world.

They need to make lots of mistakes and learn from them.

And then especially during puberty, during puberty is a time when the brain is changing very, very fast.

It's rewiring from the child to the adult form.

And so if in puberty, kids are not out there having adventures and flirting and getting embarrassed and getting in arguments and over, if they're not out there having real-world experience, it's going to prevent the neurons from wiring up in a healthy adult way.

So we really have to look at

puberty at the roughly 10 or 11 through 16 is the most sensitive period of all.

And if kids are growing up online, you know, originally we thought, well, maybe it'll be great for them, you know, talking, checking in with 100 friends a day instead of just two or three, maybe that'll be good.

But it isn't.

It is, it's remarkable.

He wrote this book called The Anxious Mind.

I think it came out two, three years ago.

And it is fabulous.

It is,

forget Dr.

Spock and all that crap.

You're raising a kid.

This is the book you should be reading.

Okay.

This has all of the facts,

everything about social media, everything about our devices and our phones that you need to know.

And we have the time.

Back in 2010, we didn't have any research.

It was just a grand experiment.

The experiment's been done.

We now see the results.

And do you like them?

Do you like them?

Our kids are so

fragile.

They shatter at anything right now.

Look at what's happening with the shooters.

Look at what's happening with the TransTifa, if you will.

Look at all of the results.

I am convinced that we will have more and more shootings from desperate, crazy people because they don't know how to deal with anything.

They've never been required to deal with anything.

They've never had anything push up against them.

In the real world, it's all been this

bogus

world of virtual reality.

And he makes a very strong case that this has got to stop.

And he talks about regulation of the internet.

And I am not one for regulation, nor is he.

But when it comes to our kids, our kids should not have access to these things.

They should not have access.

It's as harmful as cigarettes, as he said.

It's as harmful as,

you know, just binge drinking at 12 years old.

It's not going to end well.

Just not going to end well.

So you get this podcast wherever you get your podcast.

It's available right now at Blaze TV, but you can also get it tomorrow wherever you get your podcast, Jonathan Haidt on anxiety and social media.

And we start with Charlie Kirk.

I took him to places he wasn't expecting to go, but we had a really great conversation about what's happening in our society.

What is causing this?

How do we fix this?

And, you know, here's a guy who studies this for a living and said,

if we don't wake up right now and start paying attention and start fixing the things that need to be fixed and neither of us agree on politics.

And it's really, I think, a very,

it's a tough conversation, the first 20 minutes.

It's kind of a tough conversation because you want somebody on the other side to go, yeah, you're exactly right.

I see it the same way.

I don't see it his way.

He doesn't see it my way.

But we have a conversation on how did we get there?

How?

And what needs to happen.

And I don't further the conversation with him because I didn't want it to be just about this.

But we model the kind of conversation that has to happen in all of our homes with all of our families to be able to get there.

And

it's just a really healthy conversation.

Yeah, I can't wait to listen to this one.

And I think, too, it's really important for parents, particularly if you're in that age where you have kids that are going through

between that 10 to 16 type of age, where

if you think about how social media affects kids, right?

We talk about it all the time with shootings, right?

We talk about it with all the really negative things, suicides and all these terrible things.

So often, what happens is that people, kids get into these groups in social media, they're influenced by these small, quirky, weird groups, strange beliefs, like people encouraging them to hurt themselves, people telling them

they're not good enough,

they're ugly, they're worthless, all these things.

And it encourages them to go down these dark roads.

I would encourage parents who are in the middle of this situation in particular to

listen to this podcast, to read Jonathan Haidt's book, The Anxious Generation, to follow Jonathan on social media, because it's important for you to be immersed in a community that understands the risks here.

I think it's really easy when you're talking to your kids who you love, and they're telling you how much they need their phone, they need social media, they need all these things.

It's understandable to give in, right?

It's really easy to give in.

And for a long time, as you point out, Glenn, you know, we didn't have the data.

Your family became the data, right?

Like that's, that's, you know, it is a.

I've seen the results.

Yeah, it's really, really hard.

But if you immerse yourself in this community with a lot of people, and there are tons who really understand this data and believe that kids shouldn't have this, and you start building a community around you with other parents that go to your school that also are doing the same things, this stuff becomes a lot easier.

It's a lot easier to understand and justify that you're not doing harm to your kid by not giving them social media.

The exact opposite.

You're protecting them.

You're protecting them from something you know is bad.

So

it's really interesting because we knew that it wasn't a good idea, but the school was demanding that everybody have devices at the time when we were going to school with our kids.

They had to have devices.

They had to have a smart tablet or whatever.

And it would be regulated.

No, kids can get past all of that stuff.

And we were told also that kids, you know, they've got to have, they've got to have a smartphone with them.

They have to be able to do all this stuff.

No, they really don't.

They really don't.

And our kids, when we said, no, we don't want you to have it.

Mom and dad, we are an absolute pariah.

Well, I don't really care.

And we held out for a little while, not long enough,

but we held out for a little while.

We gave them access.

They didn't have

a computer of their own, but we would give them occasionally my iPad, or

they would have the iPad after they got into school.

They had to have the school's iPad.

And they were exposed to stuff that we didn't realize you could access because we didn't really understand

how bad it was early on.

I'm talking 2010, 2011, 12.

Okay.

We know now.

We know.

The entire world

is at their fingertips.

They are exposed to some of the most vile, worse things possible.

And it changes them.

And it hardwires.

He talks about how boys are hardwired now with porn and how they're going to be able to have sex in a normal, healthy relationship is, you know, beyond him.

Because all these things have now been hardwired into this generation.

If, like Stu, you're now just entering the,

you know, the real puberty and the real dangerous age where everybody is getting onto social media and everything else.

Stu's doing it the right way because he has the information now.

You're trying.

Try no, you're not.

Yeah, you're trying.

But I mean, you are, you are ahead of where we were.

Because we didn't know what to do.

We had never faced it.

We had never, we didn't know what it was.

We know now.

We know now.

And it's so dangerous.

And Jonathan has all of it outlined in Anxious Mind.

If you are a kid, if you are a parent and your kids are under 16,

before you make any move on phones or social media, anything, read The Anxious Mind.

You must read it.

And before you do that, you should know the title.

It's The Anxious Generation.

Sorry, it's The Righteous Mind.

Righteous Mind.

Both of them are worth reading, but it's The anxious generation on the phone stuff.

Yep.

And you can watch the podcast.

It's available now on Blaze and everywhere,

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There's a lot to talk about.

We have actually several really good news stories and positive things that are happening I want to share with you this hour.

Also,

CBS, too little, too late, or is this the right track?

CBS News is making some big changes.

Barry Weiss looks like she's going to be running CBS News.

I want to get into that and also show you a little bit about trust.

that Americans have for news organizations.

Now, it's, I mean, I thought it was shockingly shockingly low before.

Wait until you see the new poll.

And the government being shut down.

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the lights in washington are dark yeah kind of And it's not because we didn't run out of money.

It's because we ran out of honesty.

We ran out of truth.

So I want to give you a little truth on what is actually happening.

Why is the government shut down?

Who's responsible for it?

And what does it all mean?

So at the heart of

the shutdown is just the simple truth that the Democrats are demanding health care for millions of people who are in this country illegally.

That is the main sticking point.

People who, under federal law, should not be here.

I'm going to get into that because there's a little bit of nuance as always,

but I think you'll see right past that nuance.

Republicans have drawn a line in the sand and they say no.

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Now,

these people who shouldn't have been here, they shouldn't be having health care.

Democrats say, oh, no, they should.

Let me explain.

For decades, immigration law has been very clear.

If you cross illegally, you are to be detained and deported.

Now, the law allows rare exceptions.

Parole,

but only on a case-by-case basis and for urgent humanitarian reasons or a significant public benefit.

So significant, urgent, humanitarian reasons.

How does this play into today?

Well, here's what Biden did.

You knew that he was opening up the gates.

You might have even known that he was also flying people into our airports all across the country.

They didn't have to go through customs, immigration, nothing.

They just came in and said,

I'm here as

a refugee.

Okay, come on in.

When they did that, especially with four different countries, I'll get into that here in a second.

They then mass paroled 3 million of them.

That's Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans.

They flew those people in from their countries into the center of our country and then said, okay, you're here as a refugee because you're from one of these countries and we're giving you parole.

That's not something we've ever done before, okay?

It's not legal.

We granted them a ticket past the border, past the background checks, and straight directly into benefits.

Each month, Up to 30,000 have been flown directly into our country and received a two-year parole.

That's not a loophole.

In my opinion, that is an abuse of power.

That's executive amnesty without Congress.

Now, here's what Biden knew that we never even talked about.

What he knew is once they were paroled, they become lawfully present on paper.

And that magic phrase means they can now access the federal health care programs.

These programs, as you can imagine, were were meant for citizens, lawful immigrants, refugees, those who come through the front door.

Biden turned inadmissible aliens into beneficiaries overnight.

Why?

This is, I'm going to give you my opinion here, but

I'm going to back it up.

Was it compassion?

Was it compassion because there are so many people fleeing,

you know, because they are somehow or another refugees and they just can't live because they're under siege in their own countries.

I don't know how you make that case with the number of people that come across the border, but

let me ask you, instead of making the case here, let me ask you to look at what's happening all over the world.

Because this is not just an American thing.

This is happening all over the world.

It's not a Democrat versus Republican.

This is a Western civilization versus a New World Order problem.

Canada, all of Europe, the UK, South Korea now,

all overwhelmed on their borders.

May I ask, where are all of these refugees coming from?

Where are all of the wars?

We didn't have this kind of a refugee issue during World War II and half of the world was in active war.

So how do we have this problem when there's not an active global war?

But for the minute, just for a minute, let's remain here in America.

What are the ramifications of this open border, or in this case, actually flying non-citizens into our country directly, passing all border stops, and then having them go directly into our system to gain benefits?

Well, one of the ramifications is the cost.

Between 2017 and 2023, the government spent $27 billion on emergency Medicaid services for those ineligible because of their immigration status.

$18 billion of that was paid through your federal tax dollars.

The rest of it came from your state and local taxes.

Democrats now want to go further.

Let me back up.

What was the Big Beautiful bill about?

Remember how big and beautiful and important it was?

And everybody's like, we got to sign it, we got to sign it, we got to sign it.

This is the one case where there was, you know, all bills are jammed with stuff none of us really heard about until it's too late.

There's the one section of the big beautiful bill that

I'm like, wait, I'm surprised by that.

Wow, that's really good.

And what it did is it ended health care for illegal aliens.

They knew what Biden was trying to do.

They knew that we had to change the law and end the health care status for illegals.

So when they passed that law, the Big Beautiful bill stopped all that.

Well, Democrats didn't like that.

And so what they're demanding

on this

shutdown is that Congress repeals that part of the Big Beautiful bill.

Well, you just passed it.

Everybody voted for it.

You didn't vote for it, but it passed.

And now you want, as a negotiation, you want to repeal that?

How is that even possible?

That's one of the things that Donald Trump was elected to do.

The repeal would add another $1.5 trillion in spending.

So you know that's $1,200, sorry, $12,000 per American household.

So you'll be on the hook for people who shouldn't have been here in the first place for their Medicaid.

You'll be paying $12,000 per health care just this one time.

Remember, it's going to continue if it doesn't stop.

So let me ask you: is this shutdown from the Democrats?

Because that's what they want.

They want that provision

repealed.

When they say we're fighting for health care, yeah, they're fighting to have that repealed.

$12,000 per household,

This one budget.

So is this really about government workers missing paychecks?

Is this really about Donald Trump?

Is this really about we're defending the average worker?

No.

I think it's more about Democrats taking more out of your paycheck to give your money to people who are not citizens, have not paid income tax, people who should never have been here in the first place.

More importantly, what this is, what the Democrats did

and want to continue, is Cloward and Piven.

The Cloward and Piven strategy, we talked about it years ago.

Cloward and Piven, they were two socialist Marxist professors.

They came up with a way to collapse a system, and they did it in New York.

It's why, if you remember, New York City back in the 70s, I think, went bankrupt.

It was Cloward and Piven that designed that.

They got everybody

onto the dole.

And New York could not handle all of the promises that they had made if everybody is taking advantage of it.

And so they collapsed the economy of New York and put them out.

That's what's happening not just here in America, but it's also happening globally.

This is a global power move.

This is not about

compassion.

It's not about actual people on either side this is a power move globally

you flood the border you jam the courts you overload our hospitals you stretch everything until it snaps

then americans cry out for relief and the left's answer is always the same more spending more programs more control for them donald trump is saying with this shutdown, no, no more.

No more.

We're not going down that road.

Stop the spending on this.

Enforce the law.

Send people home.

Democrats say fund migrant hotels, keep the Medicaid rolls open, and pretend parole equals lawful entry.

It doesn't.

It's not about compassion.

It's not about children on the border.

This is about whether America will survive as a nation of laws or dissolve into some borderless welfare state because you can't give welfare to everyone.

You can't.

Every family that is struggling to pay rent, every worker watching their taxes climb, every citizen told to wait in line while Washington prioritizes those who cut the line, this is a fight for you.

This is the fight for you.

We're not going to fund the lawlessness anymore.

We're not going to keep paying for the collapse of our borders.

We're not going to allow the cart to be stolen right out of the store.

The question is,

do we have the stomach?

Will America have the stomach?

Will it wake up to what this shutdown is actually about?

Will they continue to fight Donald Trump instead of looking at the global picture?

Because it's happening in every country.

And that's what we have to tell our friends.

We have to be like

a clock striking every quarter hour saying, hey, this is a global thing.

It's not about Donald Trump.

This isn't about the Democrats or Republicans.

This is global takeover.

That's what this is.

It's not about politics, parties, or even politicians.

It is truly about the survival of the Western civilization.

That's what this shutdown is really about.

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So now seven in 10 U.S.

adults now say they have not very much confidence or no confidence at all in the American press.

That's remarkable.

It's down now to 28% of the American public trust the press.

That's radio, television, newspapers.

They don't trust it.

Republicans are down to 8%

trust.

And I mean, you can't be surprised.

Older Americans trust it more than anybody else.

Over 65 express having faith in the media.

But here's what Gallup said

at the end.

Fewer than three in 10 Americans now place trust in newspapers, television, and radio to report the news fully, fairly, and accurately.

With confidence fractured among partisan and generational lines, the challenge for news organizations is not only to deliver fair and accurate reporting, but also regain credibility across an increasingly polarized and skeptical public.

There is a chance

one corporation is doing this, and it's CBS.

They haven't officially announced, but it looks like Barry Weiss is going to become the editor-in-chief of CBS News.

That, I think, is

remarkable.

Barry Weiss

is a remarkable woman.

Started free press.

She was one of the people that Elon Musk sent all the Twitter files to.

She does not agree politically

with me, but

she will talk to people like me.

She's been on this show before.

I find her reasonable and thoughtful.

And while we don't necessarily agree on politics,

she knows common sense politics, and she does not play that game.

She was fired from the New York Times.

She was one of the most respected journalists around, and she was fired.

Was she fired or she quit?

No, she quit.

She resigned.

She quit.

She resigned.

Because she couldn't handle it anymore, because they were doing all this woke crap.

I mean, I think this could be a very big.

move.

You get CBS if she actually, as editor-in-chief, can clean house and put real investigative journalists in there and also stop with the one side of journalists, make sure that there are people that are open to the other side as well.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there'll be times that we disagree with the reporting and there's a lot of ifs you just outlined, which of course are important.

We don't know for sure what's going to happen here.

But like...

As of yesterday, there was no chance any of the major three networks would ever produce a story that was honest.

And now we have a situation where we might get some.

This is a massive improvement to me.

You know, I think she, you know,

if she does what she did, you know, what she's done at the free press at CBS, it will be an incredible improvement.

And for the first time in a very, very long time,

we may get some honest, solid reporting, some interesting perspective from one of these three major networks.

I mean, it's been basically off of our radar for decades that we'd ever get anything of value out of any of these places.

And so while I think, you know, you'll get the people who will be upset about this or that that happens there,

think of where we've been.

I mean,

honestly, when she left the New York Times and

she went into business for herself, I would have been shocked if CBS News even hired her

as an opinion contributor.

Or had her on as somebody who just had a POV of a story.

Exactly.

We wouldn't have done it.

No.

Wouldn't have done it.

Now they're talking about her running it.

That is a massive, massive improvement in our media landscape.

And it reminds me sort of of Elon taking over Twitter.

It's like we're not going to get the entire media, but if we have one place that will at least give free speech a chance,

that's something major.

That's a huge, huge improvement.

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You know, I said I think two days after Charlie Kirk had died,

I wonder who's going to be the first to name a street like Martin Luther King Boulevard or Caesar Chavez Boulevard after Charlie Kirk.

And we have one now.

A highway highway uh has just been renamed as the charlie kirk uh highway charlie kirk memorial highway it has been approved by the lake county commission in florida uh it's a section of wellness way from us 27 to the orange county line it's just i think

uh west of orlando

And it's just in one county because it had to be done county by county.

But yesterday on social media, Governor Ron DeSantis announced this is the first county that would recognize the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk.

And it's installed in Florida.

Once again.

Texas.

Texas.

What's wrong with you?

Come on.

But

Florida leading the way again.

And I hope that this happens in county after county and city after city.

If you're living in a conservative city, why?

you wouldn't change a name of a street or your section of the highway into the Charlie Charlie Kirk Memorial or Charlie Kirk Boulevard.

It should happen in every state, in every state.

So good news there.

Really good news.

Yeah.

It's important.

It's such a fascinating thing that's going on with trying to fight for the sort of legacy of Charlie Kirk.

There's this battle going on, which has a lot of dark corners to it that aren't great.

But I think, you know, remembering who he was in a way that just says this is a guy who who spoke up for what he believed in.

He tried to do politics the right way.

He tried to get in front of people and debate them and have conversation.

And he also tried to persuade them.

That was what he was trying to do, persuade people.

That is what you're supposed to do in this world when it comes to politics.

And he did it.

He did it and he did it well.

There's a story in the show prep today.

I don't want to spend any time on it except for this, that talks about, you know, it's from the left point of view.

And they say, well, the right has their George Floyd and they're hero-worshiping Charlie Kirk.

No, no, don't compare Charlie Kirk to George Floyd.

George Floyd

died.

I mean, I believe the autopsy says because of drugs.

And I'm not dismissing the cop that, you know, the way he acted, I think it was horrible the way he acted, et cetera, et cetera.

But this was a guy who was not a good example for our children that should should not be hero-worshipped.

Should people

should say cops should never behave that way, but George Floyd was not a hero the way he lived his life.

I don't want, you want your kids acting like George Floyd?

You want George Floyd to be a hero for your kids?

No, I don't.

I don't.

And it has nothing to do with race.

Nothing.

And it has nothing to do with the cops.

The cops, fine.

That should never happen.

It's horrible.

Charlie Kirk?

I want my kids to be self-educated, to be relentless pursuers of education and truth.

I want them to be Christ-like.

I want them to debate openly and kindly.

Yeah, I want, I mean, our nation would be much better off if we had kids looking up to Charlie Kirk and going, That's who I'd like to be.

What would society be like if the society said, you know what?

George Floyd, that's who I want to be.

I mean, it's a pretty different society.

So please don't say that we found our George Floyd.

No.

And don't try to make me feel bad for looking at Charlie Kirk as a hero.

I think he was.

And so are they, and are they saying that he is a hero or are they demeaning what George Floyd was?

I'm confused as to which way they're going here.

Because we were told George Floyd was a hero and we're told that Charlie Kirk is a hate monger.

So I don't know which way they're going with that.

Part of me wonders.

I don't think they really do either.

Yeah, I don't think they do either.

Again, you know, people just say things.

There's a need for it to fill up the internet so people just say things.

But that's a stupid take.

And by the way, we're not burning down any cities over it, I've noticed.

Let me also give you another name of a hero that everybody should know.

Everybody should know the name Lydia Kaiser.

This is a hero.

Do you know who she is?

Lydia Kaiser.

Did she discover the bun?

Is it no, she wasn't the

Kaiser role?

No, no.

No.

I'll give you a hint.

She's just been able to return to school at Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis.

Yeah, this is a great story.

I didn't know her name, but this is a great one.

Yeah.

12 years old.

She's the girl that shielded a friend and was shot.

Instead of her friend, okay?

She shielded them.

What happened to her is

she gets wounded and she's had to have three different brain surgeries to be able to survive what she saw.

Her family says she's going to need ongoing care for the foreseeable future, but she is a brave little fighter.

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There's a GoFundMe account set up for the Kaiser family.

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GoFundMe.

Just, I think it's GoFundMe.

Hang on just a second.

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Awesome.

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But you can give to that fund.

I think that's great.

So there's good news.

This hero, that's what I want my kids to have as heroes.

I want my kids to be able to look and go, wow, at 12, she's putting her body in front of her her friends.

Amazing.

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GoFundMe.

Look at the money that GoFundMe has raised.

Do you remember the time when, I don't even remember the name of the

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Remember up in Canada, they were like canceling you and tracing who those people were and trying to turn them in.

Do you you remember that, Stu?

What was the name of that?

Doesn't matter.

But GoFundMe came out because they were like, no,

we're not going to do any of those things.

You want to raise money for conservative causes?

You can do that.

You can do that here.

That's another big thing.

It's like when Twitter, when Twitter went to Elon Musk, look how much changed.

GoFundMe.

Look how much has changed.

Look how much good we have, as people have done.

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But

another amazing thing that we wouldn't even have considered,

you know, when George Floyd went down, you know, nobody was raising money for the families of the cops.

Well, those are the bad guys, right?

Nobody raised any money on that side, the victim side.

Nobody said anything about their families.

And that's fine.

We don't do it to compare, but I'm just,

I am proud to be

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So some good news on both of those things and the Charlie Kirk Highway.

I didn't want your Friday to go by without giving you some things that are like, you know what?

We're making progress.

And Barry Weiss, I think that story is possibly one of those things too.

We're making real progress.

I totally agree with that.

It's very easy to get down and realize, you know, worry about all the things that are going on in the world.

There's plenty of bad ones.

But again, you just think about where we were just a few years ago.

I mean, you know, they weren't,

we were watching men in dresses in makeup commercials.

And, you know, it's not to say that none of that stuff goes on.

It still does at some level.

But a lot of it has been cleared out.

A lot, you American Eagle came out and said they had a million new customers.

Again, you run an ad, you hope to sell a few pairs of jeans.

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And I think that that was controversial.

Yeah.

I mean, the world is going to look back on all of those TV shows, all of these things.

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That's going to just seem, that is forever preserved.

And when the world comes back to normal, when it comes back to common sense,

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Yeah.

And we're going, it's interesting because I think of, you think of, go back to the past like 40 years of

life.

There have been, you know, bits and pieces, you know, things that have happened, but there haven't been like eras that are, in my mind, totally have defied, like have been so incredibly strange looking back on them.

And in the last five years, I think we've had two of them.

One is the COVID era, which is like, wait a minute, what were we doing?

We weren't going out to restaurants.

Like, we couldn't go outside.

They were putting sand in skate parks and you couldn't go in the ocean.

And think of all the crazy things we lived through in 2020 and into 2021 in some areas.

And then the era that followed that, which, you know, I don't know if you want to define it as that, whatever, the woke era, peak wokeness, whatever that was, where, you know,

the example that pops into my head all the time is the National Hockey League tweeting, trans rights are human rights and trans women are women.

Like, what the hell?

You're a hockey league.

So let me go, let me add another one right now.

Charlie Kirk's assassination.

This is another one that we have not lived in.

We have not lived this.

In my lifetime, I mean, I was four when Martin Luther King died.

So I don't remember.

But, you know, you're not, you're younger than I am.

You didn't live through anything like this.

Yeah.

So there's three things that the first one, COVID, we swore would never.

Just like a month before, I said, well, that'll never happen in America.

It was happening in Italy.

I said, oh, God, can you imagine that ever happening here?

And then two weeks later, it was.

It was happening.

It was happening.

So we experienced that.

We said it'll never happen.

Then the trans stuff and, you know, guys in dresses dancing in first grade and preschool and all of that stuff and parents taking their kids to do, it was like, what the hell is that?

Never happened before.

Never happened.

Now this.

I mean, we're in five years.

Five years.

Well, this is sort of the question that was leading up to.

And this is a longer conversation than we have time for right now, but maybe you've put thought into this.

Have we moved into a time where it's going to be non-stop stuff like this, where we swing wildly from era to era to era to era, and it's not like it was?

I mean, part of me thinks, you know, the world, you talk about it with Jonathan Haidt in your podcast, the world that we currently live in, I think

might

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Powell, that question will be answered in the next election with Congress and then the next presidential election.

I think if we can stay on this path for another six years,

Donald Trump told me it would take 12, but, you know, at least six years,

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I got to tell you, this...

This Riyadhi comedy festival and the comedians that are over there, especially Dave Chappelle, saying in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia,

we have more free speech here than we do in America.

How dare you, Dave?

I want to talk about that.

And Bridget Fettesey is going to be joining us to discuss comedy and Saudi Arabia.

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So the Riyand Comedy Festival just happened,

and it's a bunch of comedians that were paid a lot of money to uh show up and be part of this comedy festival and you had to sign a document said you wouldn't make fun of religion you wouldn't make fun of the royal family etc etc um

and you wouldn't make fun of saudi arabia um

and they went and you know they made millions and millions of dollars these comedians you know i think the i think the average was what 1.7 million dollars uh for the the big-name comedians and i cut louis ck a break because nobody in America is letting him work.

So let him go over.

He can work wherever he wants.

He can do comedy shows in China if he has to to make money.

I'm fine with that one.

But Dave Chappelle said some really, I thought, from the stage, really not good things.

Quote, right now in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you'll get canceled.

I don't know if that's true, but

I'm going to find out.

It's easier to talk here than it is in America.

They're going to do something to me so that I can't say what I want to say when he returned to the United States.

I don't know, Dave.

It seems ignorant.

Really ignorant and a little un-American to say those kinds of things on stage in Saudi Arabia.

So where do we stand on this one?

We fine with our comedians going over to Saudi Arabia?

And if we're not, then should we be canceling all of those big, you know, airplane contracts with Saudi Arabia?

Why are just golfers and comedians not allowed to do the Riyadh Comedy Festival?

And yet I still feel dirty because of it.

Bridget Fedesey is here.

She's going to talk to us about this coming up in just a second.

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how are you

How are you?

First of all, just wanted to say I'm so sorry for your loss, you and Stu and everybody at the Blaze.

No, you're all

not that far out.

Yeah, I know.

And I just wanted to say I'm sorry.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

But I'm good, you know?

Life is crazy.

I know.

Every time I talk to you, something new has happened where I'm like, that's not the bridge that I know.

That's not the bridge that I know.

I'm anxious to hear

where you stand on this Riyadhi comedy festival.

Oh, it's so interesting, isn't it?

It reminds me.

I just keep thinking of that Ricky Drew-based monologue that he did years ago, where he said, if ISIS started a streaming service, you'd call your agent.

I mean,

it becomes more relevant somehow every year, that monologue that he did.

And I don't know, I think comedians got too rich and maybe we all need to just, I mean, I'm not rich like them, but maybe comedians in general just need to go back to being kind of viewed as dumb losers again.

I think some of these guys are out over their skis a little bit.

And

they got really huge.

And

now...

I don't know.

Maybe this is a challenge for them to push the limits because they can say whatever they want in America.

So going to Saudi is like, ooh, a little little dangerous, a little titillating.

I don't know.

They all had to sign documents that they wouldn't make fun of religion, they wouldn't make fun of Saudi Arabia, wouldn't make fun of the royal family, et cetera, et cetera.

My thought on this,

if we went to these same comedians and said, hey, we'll pay you the same amount of money.

We want to do a Washington, D.C.

Trump comedy

weekend, would these guys have signed the same exact thing?

No, they wouldn't have.

They wouldn't have.

And everybody would have been out of their mind crazy on the left saying, look, Donald Trump wants to shut people down, wants to shut down anybody.

You can't make fun of his family.

It's impossible.

You're not going to do it.

None of these comedians would have done that.

None of them.

Yeah, it's, I'm not, I wouldn't have done it.

And I'm not wealthy.

But there's really no amount of money that you could have paid me to do that.

Only because I think if I'm, first of all, if I'm somebody out there who's screaming women and screaming about the rights of women and how we should be fighting for people like the women in Saudi Arabia who have no real voice or as many rights as we do, then it would be very hypocritical for me to go stand on that stage and say whatever I want.

I also think

they're getting paid to legitimize these people.

That's what they're getting paid.

The quotes that are coming out of there, every quote I see, I was like, wow, wow the saudis got their money's worth like oh the royals loved it you know it's just like if you're trying to trying to justify your appearance in saudi arabia the the quote the royals were very happy is not great coming out of your mouth yeah and i i uh i i love the fact again chappelle said you know he's you know what america hasn't killed people yeah the the saudi prince has killed has killed people what we haven't, you know, please give it a rest.

Because you don't just write it off like that in America.

You know what I mean?

You don't just like, oh, yeah, so what?

Our government has just killed a few people.

You don't.

But you're going to do it here because you're getting a big paycheck.

Yeah,

I hear this argument a lot.

Oh, how is this any different than the government?

This is, this is, I can't, you can't fix that kind of stupid.

I can't even, I won't even even deal with it because it's like listening to a 19-year-old in their first year of college who just smoked a bomb.

Like, okay,

Saudi Arabia and America are the same.

Tell me more about your enlightened, anti-American thoughts.

Like, all right,

go, go live in Saudi Arabia then.

Like, let me know how that works out for you.

Try making fun of the royal family, try making fun of the journalist or anything that they said that you can't make fun of.

Go let me know how that works out for you.

And something more than the three days that you spent there viewing.

I mean, a lot of it was, it was, it's still like, oh, we, we, they have McDonald's in Starbucks.

This was some of the quotes coming from Bill that I was kind of like, yeah, so this is like Tucker eating McDonald's in Russia.

Like, okay.

That doesn't mean that these places are same.

I don't know what's happening.

Coca-Cola was Coca-Cola was served to the Nazis in Germany up until like 1942.

You know, they were just like you.

No, no, you're not.

No, you're not.

That Coke bottle doesn't make you us.

I don't know.

I'm not sure what's going on.

But again, I am of many minds about this because I have been at venture capitalist events and the Saudis have been there.

And I don't know why should Jared Kushner be allowed to make money with the Saudis and not the comedians?

Right.

Like you said in the opening.

I mean, I think it's funny how much less the comedians got paid than the golfers,

pretty significantly.

The golfers are getting tens of millions.

The comedians are getting like hundreds of thousands to a million to sell their soul out.

And I don't know.

That's just, that's also funny to me.

I'm like, they, they offered the golfers a lot more than you guys.

You know, the thing with

you said it earlier, the hypocrisy,

they don't understand.

It's like they have,

they never listen to that one of these things doesn't belong song on Sesame Street.

I mean, with Jimmy Kimmel, listen to what Shane Gillis said about Jimmy Kimmel's return.

Listen, it was good to see everybody stick up for him for free speech.

And I'm just glad they were all there for me back in 2019.

You know,

he's my brother and being canceled now.

You know, he was canceled for what, what, what was that, 48 hours?

Mine was a couple years, but no big deal.

What's the difference?

You had to hold tight.

Probably a very nice, kind of modern house on the hills in L.A.

You had to sit there and just warm me and you didn't have to lay on a mattress in Queens

with two snarky roommates that were like, oh, did you write that apology?

Yeah, I could tell.

What the f-

Oh, Shane, I love him so much.

I just love him.

Yeah, I mean, look,

I also feel, and I saw this on Will Kane, when it feels like the world is ending and

everything is coming undone, I understand people just grabbing as much cash as they can.

And look, some of these comedians were not hugely famous and have been struggling for a long time.

And like Shane mentioned, you're sleeping on a mattress on the floor for many, many years before you even make it in comedy, if you even make it.

And

so I don't know.

It's like, get that bag, but you're going to have to hear about this forever.

This is going to,

there are people who,

I think for some of these guys, it did real damage to their brand or whatever.

Some more than others.

Bridget, I'm of two minds on this because I get the criticism.

What we've been talking about, like, you know, the stuff that Chappelle said and stuff, like, I don't like it, and I think it's kind of silly.

But I also saw a lot of the

pushback from like the high-minded, I'm better than all of you people comedians.

Yeah, I know.

And I, I, you know, I saw David Cross did some of this.

It's like, but there's a bunch of people who did it.

And it's a big fan of David Cross.

Oh, yeah.

I loved it.

I mean, I'm a Mr.

Show junkie from back in the day.

But like, you know, I, it's just like, okay, I get it.

But I don't understand why there is a double standard for entertainers in this world.

Like, you know, all sorts of American companies

sell products in these countries.

You know, as you mentioned, tons of investors do business in Saudi Arabia.

I mean, Saudi Arabia is, you know, again, this is not the Nazi regime.

We're not at war with them.

They're supposedly, in some ways, allies of ours.

And, like, do the people of Saudi Arabia not get to laugh?

Do they not get to go to comedy shows?

Like, they can't have a festival in their country where people come and enjoy comedians?

We saw we've seen before they no unless they're on giant Boeing planes right that seemingly every resident owns one right right but like we've seen cultural outreach like this before have positive influences Glenn and I were talking about this before off the air and I checked it after Glenn we talked about it you know Billy Joel went over and did a concert in the Soviet Union.

This was before the collapse.

It was four years before the Soviet Union collapsed.

Like it's I'm not saying that it's probably no more high-minded than getting your bag.

I get it, Bridget.

But isn't there a weird double standard when it comes to entertainers that they're supposed to somehow, you know, I don't know, change the entire regime's mindset before they take a weekend gig?

I don't understand it.

Like I said, I'm of many minds about this because

I think that some of this,

that's all absolutely true.

And I don't blame really any of these people for taking the money and going.

At the same time,

you also have to understand that you are a useful idiot who's being used by a regime.

But understand that.

It's fine.

I don't think it's the same as doing, here's why I don't think it's the same as doing business because

business people are smart enough.

to be behind closed doors and do all this stuff in Park City at secretive events where they all fly in on their private jet.

Entertain.

Their face is their brand.

Their jokes are their brand.

Same with the golfers.

Ultimately, you're an athlete, but you're also an entertainer.

And I think that's why they get held to this unfair double standard because they're actually quite poor compared to everyone else around them.

These are court jesters for the kings, literally.

Literally.

Well,

I will tell you, the Jewish state could have put on a comedy festival and paid them the same amount of money, and I bet you almost all of those comedians would have turned it down because it's Israel.

I mean,

they would never do it.

They would never do it for

Donald Trump.

If the government said, we're going to put on a comedy festival for the 250th anniversary, but you can't make fun of the religion or the founding or the

Donald Trump family.

They would never, ever, they would cry bloody murder on that.

And the last thing is, I am really sick of everybody else taking our culture and then giving us theirs.

We seem to be taking all of the Saudi culture.

Go ahead, go to Little Somalia.

I don't want that culture.

I don't want it.

You can keep that culture.

You want to borrow some of ours and see and go, that's great.

That's the difference with Billy Joel.

He went over because they were starving for our culture.

They wanted to be more like us.

They keep sending us all of their crap and saying, you take it.

No, no, you keep your stuff.

I'd like to keep ours.

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just a dear, dear friend that I just absolutely love.

Bridget,

what's happening in your life?

What is the thing that's grabbing your attention or, you know, you feel compelled to share?

Oh, man.

The rise in, there's so much.

I'm really, I'm really concerned about this kind of rise in anti-Semitism.

That's, that's kind of what I'm, I think, most obsessed with these days.

And

it seems to be getting worse.

And I find it to be so crazy that it's like a supernatural force.

So that's grabbed my attention.

The Charlie Kirk thing, I think, was another.

I was laughing before I came on because I was thinking every time I talked, before I, every time I talked to Glenn, I'm like a little bit more red-billed.

So I'm moving

a little bit more to the right.

And I'm not sure the center's holding.

This is another thing that I've been thinking a lot about and want to write about.

What does that mean?

I just don't.

I haven't been able to articulate it, which is why I think I want to write about it.

But

I don't get the s relationships that I've had, even in my family, that have managed to be okay through Trump, not Trump, Trump, you know, the past decade really,

are starting to fray.

And

people

that I love

because I'm either pretty openly pro-Israel or because I'm

also

now more openly pro-Republican, at least.

Yeah, I think the center, I think the center-right is the new right.

I think the center-right is the new center.

I think it used to be the center-left, and I feel like it's shifted right.

But it does feel like that two Americas

the Charlie thing really made that pretty evident to me, that there seem to be kind of the two Americas are really moving apart from one another more and more.

And I'm seeing kind of the way centrists are trying to frame these things, and they're just

having a hard time because it's not

there's two versions of America that people seem to be trying to grapple with.

And

I find that building

something

with family,

there's one that's more patriotic, more family-oriented, more

religious-oriented.

And the left, I'm not exactly sure what they stand for at the moment.

And it does seem like it's more destructive.

And I think more and more people are seeing that and feeling that.

Bridget, always good to talk to you.

God bless you.

Have a great weekend.

Stay safe.

Bridget Fettese, writer and stand-up comedian.

You're welcome.

Love you.

Host of the podcast, Walk-Ins.

Welcome.

She has her YouTube program, Dumpster Fire, and Real America.

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So Matt Walsh has just written a piece for the Daily Wire.

The Pope hosts cringe climate justice event.

As a lifelong and devote Catholic, he writes,

I don't enjoy criticizing the Pope.

I would prefer not to do it.

But I have to do what I believe is the right thing.

And in a time when we simply cannot rely on church leadership to actually lead with moral clarity, it falls upon the rest of us to speak up.

After a 30-day stretch in which one of the most prominent Christians in the country was murdered in front of the entire world, prompting thousands of public celebrations, a murder that was bookend by mass shootings at two different churches, one was targeted by trans-identifying terrorists who explicitly despise Jesus Christ, you might hope that the Christian leaders throughout the world and in all positions would be focused on that crisis.

Especially true, since in Nigeria, Christians are currently being systematically slaughtered by Islamists in a genocide that has been going on for many years.

Be the ideal time for the most important Christian leader, the leader of the Catholic Church, the Pope, to say something that might reassure Christians and Catholics who are increasingly being targeted with violence because of their faith.

Christians need moral guidance now more than any other time in recent memory.

But that's just not the approach of Pope Leo.

First, the Pope stated that you would not be pro-life if you support the death penalty, a position that contradicts scripture and Catholic tradition.

Then in the next breath, the Pope suggested that you're not really pro-life if you don't open the borders to illegals.

And now he just appeared at the Vatican's latest international conference in Italy, which was entitled Raising Hope for Climate Justice.

This is where he blessed a block of Arctic ice.

And I want to just play this clip real quick.

I would now like to invite you to stand for the blessing of the waters.

Lord of life,

bless this water.

May it awaken our hearts, cleanse our indifference,

soothe our grief, and renew our hope through Christ our Lord.

All right.

I mean, that's not bad, I guess.

I guess it's just, you know, that is that the

climate justice, which is, you know, socialist in nature and everything else.

I don't, I wanted to bring Liz Wheeler on because I think she's the best Catholic I know next to my mother-in-law.

And

Liz, I don't want to criticize the Pope

because at least he's not Francis, who I didn't have a problem criticizing because I didn't think he was actually Catholic.

Is this,

where do you stand with this Pope?

Is he

is there hope here?

Is this just a blip?

What are you thinking?

Good question.

I think a lot of, I think Catholics all over the world are asking themselves that same question.

So I would say let's start with the good news first.

Good news is the catch.

Oh, it's yours.

Good news.

Okay, we're going to have to tell her

that's our sort of digital hell.

Yes.

yeah, yeah, you're cutting out lists quite quite badly.

Oh, it's cutting out.

Let me

see if I can walk to a different spot.

See where you are.

That's good.

Yep, good.

Okay, the second thing.

Oh, you did.

We missed the first thing.

Oh, my gosh.

And entering.

Oh, the first thing was that the Catholic Church is the Davidic kingdom and it will endure regardless of infiltrators.

So there's not, it's not a, it's not a political organization.

It's a, it's a spiritual one.

The second piece of hope is that young men entering the priesthood today are incredibly based.

So the next generation is not going to be dealing with the boomer liberal priests that we have to deal with right now.

That's kind of the good news.

It is demoralizing, I think, as a Catholic to see the Pope engaging in this climate.

I mean, he calls it climate justice.

What does that mean?

And I'm not saying that rhetorically.

Climate justice is a very thin mask over communist political aspirations.

So it feels scandalous for a Pope to be converting with these people.

I mean, he blessed that water.

Throw that holy water on these communists.

See how many demons hiss out of them.

I mean, this is a communist ideology that he's playing around with.

And I agree with Matt Walsh.

I don't like criticizing the Pope as a Catholic because, and I'll be perfectly blunt with you, Glenn, because whenever I as a Catholic criticize the Pope, my evangelical friends and Protestant brethren conflate my criticism of the Pope with criticism of the Catholic doctrine.

And that's one of the things that sets Catholicism apart is the Pope is the leader of the church.

And as such, we, of course, hope that he accurately represents the doctrine, but he does not write or dictate the doctrine.

He can say things as the Pope that contradict Catholic doctrine because what he says is not infallible.

We as Catholics are not required to take everything he says as, no pun intended gospel.

And it's confusing sometimes because that's not how a lot of Protestant and evangelical churches are, but it's worth noting because in this case, I, I mean, to me, and I'm not trying to stand here and define what sins have been committed or anything like that, far be it from me.

But it seems to me that when you stand quite literally next to communists and take part in their rituals, that it's going to be very confusing.

It is the near occasion of sin at best because people who are not as informed about what quote-unquote climate justice actually is might conflate it for our true calling as Christians, which is to be good stewards of the creation that God gave us.

That's true.

We are called to do that as Christians.

But when you conflate that with climate justice, which is anti-humanity, anti-God,

that can be very confusing for people who aren't as politically entrenched and reading these documents of the UN Climate Conference like you and I and a lot of the people who are listening today do.

So I find it to be disappointing.

Like that.

I actually think I texted this to a friend earlier.

I think he should, he's good on many theological things.

He has some liturgical tendencies that are refreshing after Francis.

He seems to be extending the olive branch to a lot of traditional Catholics with the Latin Mass and that kind of thing.

And that's good.

But I texted a friend this morning.

I said he should listen to his brother more on politics.

His brother, I think, has a very bombastic account down in Florida posting some what I consider to be funny.

Some people might consider to be bombastic things about Hillary Clinton.

And I, I mean,

I don't love his politics.

So I think there's hope, but there's also a little disappointment, too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think we all go through this with all of our churches.

Because I think all of our churches have let us down.

I really do.

I mean, my church, I don't happen to agree with

the stance on illegal aliens.

I don't understand that stance.

You know, I understand compassion and everything else, but follow the law is also part of it, I thought.

And

we all have things that make us uncomfortable in all of our churches.

And we just,

I hope and pray that we'll start to see our churches find the leaderships, the leadership that will stand up and be very, very clear on

universal principles.

You know,

one here,

25, 30 years ago, my faith came out with the proclamation of the family.

And 30 years ago, it seemed insane.

And it was like, gender is specific and ordained by God.

Man, woman, children, that's the family proclamation.

And it went deep into it.

And that seemed nuts at the time.

But that's the kind of stuff we need from all of our churches right now.

What are the eternal truths that we all need to stand for?

Yeah, that's exactly right.

And that's actually one of the reasons why I'm,

not just why I'm Catholic, but why I'm excited to be Catholic.

Because while, yes, it can be demoralizing when a leader who is a de facto representative of your faith speaks politics either wrongly, in an ill-informed way, or even in what I consider to be immorally,

at the same time,

because he doesn't change the doctrine.

I mean, look at theology of the body, Pope John Paul II.

You know,

look at the catechism of the Catholic Church defining communism as coming from Satan.

I mean these are truths that aren't changed and that the Catholic Church is unwavering in not just her belief but her teaching.

And if you put aside

really the sin and the brokenness of the people who lead the church, because we're all sinful and we're all broken, and you look at just the truth of

the gospel, you know, whether this is the, you know, we in the Catholic Church call this the word.

It is both the Bible and tradition and the living word, Jesus Christ Himself.

If you look at this deposit of faith, it is eternal, it is unchanging, and that brings hope beyond just politics and beyond just the leadership of a specific organization.

That brings eternal hope.

And that's why, you know, no matter who is currently at the helm of the administration of the church, I will always be Catholic.

How are you feeling about

the way Christians are dealing with each other right now?

I think we're in a new place and a really good place.

Do you feel that?

Yeah, there's a spiritual revival that's happening.

I mean, it accelerated after the assassination of Charlie Kirk because you and I have talked about this often, Glenn.

When someone is confronted with evil, as we all have been

because of the politics of the recent decades, it brings to the the forefront of your mind in a very new and very sometimes jarring way that, well, if there's evil, then there must also be good.

And when you search for that good, it leads you toward God.

And this has been a slow roll that's been happening over the course of the last decade.

And there's been some accelerating events.

There were the Black Lives Matter riots.

There was the COVID vaccine mandates.

There was, of course, the very recent murder of our friend Charlie.

There have been these events where people are like, wow, that, you know, when you're told that your white child is a racist just because they have white skin and that your black child is oppressed just because they have black skin, like, that's not just stupid policy.

That's not just ill-informed leaders.

That's evil.

And so people have been searching and they are rightfully, and I mean, it brings me great joy finding God in the midst of this political evil because We would like, I think, to believe that politics and religion are separate, that

they're two entirely different entities.

But the truth of the matter is they're not.

Our society is intended to

help human flourishing, but human flourishing is not just the liberty to do whatever you want.

It's not just license.

It's the opportunity, the liberty to pursue virtue, which is your opportunity to choose Christ.

So you can't really separate the two.

And it's become very clear that the other side doesn't separate their religion from their politics.

We are, of course, engaged in spiritual warfare, not just left versus right political bickering here.

And it has been, in the midst of the suffering that we have all endured in our country over the past decade, it is also a good and humbling reminder that God brings so much good out of evil because you see this incredible awakening that's happening in people's hearts as they face what could turn them to the bad side, but instead is causing them to turn towards God.

Liz, thank you for stopping by the show today.

I appreciate it.

Just love you.

Stay safe.

Thanks, Juan.

Appreciate it.

You bet.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

One of my favorite people.

I have two of my favorite people on the show in this hour.

I mean,

Liz, just a lot of people.

Thank you, Bundle.

Appreciate that.

Quite a lot.

And so is Bridget.

And then we have to balance it with Stu, and then it all kind of falls apart.

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If you happen to be a Blaze TV subscriber, I think you have access now and access comes out to everybody this weekend of Glenn's new podcast with Jonathan Haidt.

If you don't know Jonathan Haidt, we talked about him a little bit earlier today, but he is kind of, I don't know, he was one of the first mainstream academics that actually tried to understand what conservatives were doing and didn't just call them haters.

He wrote a book called The Righteous Mind, which was very, very good.

Also, he did a really good free speech book a couple years ago.

But his latest book is called The Anxious Generation.

And it is focused on this massive experiment we've just sort of thrust ourselves into as a nation where we ask ourselves the question, what if we just turn over two-thirds of our lives to phones?

What happens?

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

And

I think we are all sort of inherently aware that generally speaking, it's a bad thing.

I don't know that we know the extent of it yet.

He goes through all of the research in the book and

gives you a perspective not just on the way you're feeling, which is probably the same way I'm feeling, I guess, which is, you know, these are, this is really bad, particularly for our kids.

Though I think it's also terrible for adults.

I don't think we should we should underplay that element of it as well.

But I think it's really terrible for kids, especially in these developmental years.

And he has a concept of basically trying to create a new norm

that we

keep hit no phones until I think it's 14 and no social media till 16.

Now I'm trying to be an extremist and go beyond those years, if at all possible.

My son's already 14 and does not have a phone, so I don't tell him about that new standard because that's the standard it's going to be for a long time for him and my daughter as well.

But I do think it's a really

impactful book and podcast as well coming out this weekend.

Let yourself get involved in this and understand it a little bit.

And it can be kind of the gateway drug into getting a little bit farther down this road, especially if you have kids that are, I don't know, seven, eight, nine, in that general area.

You've got years to come that are going to be very difficult.

And as he outlines in the book, you know, we got very weird over the past 15 years or so where we started getting really, really protective of kids in real life, worrying that they're going to fall off of playgrounds all the time and all the real life concerns.

We got helicopter parent over and did the exact opposite with their online lives and just let them kind of go wherever they wanted to go and crossed our fingers.

Not the right approach.

So Jonathan Haidt with Glenn Beck this weekend on the podcast.

Don't miss it.

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