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It is Thursday.

We're glad you're here.

The government has shut down.

Yay!

I'm actually really pleased about that.

I wish we were unleashing the kraken right now and firing people and

making

the Democrats work for all of their programs.

I'm sorry, but the circumcision of turtles in Botswana probably is not a priority of the United States.

I wouldn't mind cutting some of those kinds of programs.

But we'll get into why the government is shut down, what it all means.

Also, there's confusing information now coming about the pipe bombs.

You know, the January 6th pipe bombs were...

Was that some sort of a trial run?

Was that an exercise that just happened to coincide with January 6th?

What's the latest on the pipe bombs?

And

what is the latest on the number of FBI agents that were in the January 6th?

Last week, I heard it was 300.

Today I hear it's 55.

I don't know what is actually going on.

Barry Lautermill is joining us, and he is the guy.

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Georgia, Congressman Barry Lautermilk is with us.

Barry, how are you, sir?

Doing good, Glenn.

How are you doing today?

I am really good.

I have to tell you, I want to spend a couple of minutes as we get past some of this other stuff in the interview talking about a book that you wrote this summer.

I didn't hear anything about it.

It somehow or another arrived on my desk

and I picked it up and I was going on an airplane.

And I have to tell you, Barry, I read that thing cover to cover.

And I don't even know if anybody really knows about this book.

I think it is one of the best history books and the most appropriate for its time right now.

I actually want to talk to you about recording it myself.

I think it would make a series of podcasts that are just fantastic.

I just love it.

That would be awesome.

Yeah.

It's called And they Pray.

One of our goals.

Yeah, go ahead.

One of our goals is to do an audio book on this.

I just haven't had the time to do the recording yet.

So my family's been after me to do it, but I've been a little bit busy with investigations and

legislative work.

Well,

I'd love to make it in podcasts.

I think it's fantastic, Barry.

It needs to be heard.

We'll talk about that in a second.

First, let me talk to you about what is going on.

First of all, let's start with the pipe bombs.

What is the latest on these pipe bombs?

Well, Glenn, it's amazing what having an administration that actually wants to get to the truth

can do to change a narrative.

What we have learned, and the premise that we went on in the previous two years that I was investigating, is that these pipe bombs were placed in the evening of January 5th.

And so everyone was going off of that premise.

We start,

and of course, I had reached out to the FBI several times during that time period.

Of course, the Biden administration were not, they were not forthcoming with information.

Basically, they always use this excuse, this is an ongoing investigation, so we can't share that information.

I'm like, goodness gracious, how long is this investigation going to go?

So, what we've learned through the Trump administration is that story doesn't fit with the facts that we're finding.

It appears to us, and let me give you credit because you brought this up on a show I was doing with you over a year ago, that the pipe bombs had a 60-second egg timer on them.

So, how could you place,

I mean, a 60-minute egg timer, right?

You brought that up.

I started researching that.

I talked to some bomb experts, and they said, well, quite often that is an override.

In other words, you have an electronic trigger that actually sets off the bomb, but you put the egg timer on to basically set it, and it triggers the other trigger.

You know, it enables it.

It just basically gives you time to get away.

So we were going on that premise.

Well, one thing we get is the lab report from the FBI on the pipe bombs.

Just got that recently.

There was no electronic timer.

The only timer was that 60-minute egg timer.

So it's impossible that these pipe bombs were placed and armed on the night of January 5th.

They had to be placed at some point,

not long before they were found on January 6th, because a lady that lives close by to the one that was placed by the Republican National Committee and her testimonies, which have been consistent, she said there were still 20 minutes left on the egg timer when she found it.

Right.

So that's one huge inconsistency.

The other is mysterious data or data that has been mysteriously, it's disappeared.

And it was when the FBI was doing geofence searches.

They went to all the major cell carriers and asked for all the precise data

of people who were in that area

on on January 5th and 6th.

All the carriers provided information except for one, ATT.

ATT

apparently corrupted the data.

Now,

we kept hearing that the data was corrupted, and this is in my previous investigation.

ATT claimed they didn't corrupt the data.

The FBI did.

The FBI, we found out later, said, no, the data was corrupted when we got it.

Now that we get the real information, it becomes even more mysterious.

There is a

entity known as FirstNet.

FirstNet was created by Congress after 9-11

to preempt cell service for law enforcement.

So they only serve law enforcement first responders.

So in a time of emergency, their calls take priority.

So FirstNet

is actually sits on the AT ⁇ T backbone.

For some reason, and this is where my suspicions started growing, is when the FBI contacted ATT, gave them a preservation letter, said, Save all of this data specifically around the areas where the pipe bombs were

because they have to go through the legal mumbo jumbo to actually get the subpoena.

So they don't want stuff to disappear.

They send a letter telling ATT to preserve the data.

ATT responds and says you have to go to FirstNet to get this data.

Which raises my suspicion.

Why are they telling them to go to the carrier just for law enforcement?

Well,

according to

FirstNet,

that data was going to be deleted within just a few hours.

So they were in this massive hurry to download all the data before it was deleted, and somehow it just got corrupted.

I'm not buying the story.

Okay, so wait a minute.

Why would FirstNet have access to the data?

Why wouldn't it still be with AT ⁇ T?

My question, I've questioned that, and this is what we're seeking right now.

Was it law enforcement information that the FBI was seeking?

Our first responder, why were,

first of all, there was a reason AT ⁇ T sent them over to FirstNet.

We don't know.

And we've been told that FirstNet had just signed a contract with the FBI, and so they were handling all the data retrieval.

So

that's a possibility.

I mean, these are questions we don't have that we are seeking right now.

But the bottom line is the narrative that we were sold on is not even close to what the evidence is bringing up.

So what does that imply?

Who is giving us this false testimony and evidence?

Well, that's what we need to find out.

Is it AT ⁇ T?

Is it FirstNet?

Is it, and probably likely to an extent, the FBI?

So we're going to be requesting more information from the FBI

as far as details of their investigation.

And, you know, what the FBI had claimed, the Biden FBI, was, well, obviously the person who placed the pipe bomb, their data was in that ATT set that got corrupted.

I'm still having an issue with the corruption.

I spent 20 years in the IT business.

When data, data is never really deleted, it's always saved somewhere.

It may be archived.

I can't understand how such

a carrier like AT ⁇ T

would just arbitrarily delete data literally within a few days of a major event.

In our previous investigation, we contacted all these carriers, and one carrier says, look,

when it's a significant event, we keep that data forever.

They said, we even still have data from the Oklahoma City bombing.

Wow.

So if that's the case, I'm not really

buying the story that

any other data

seem to have found everybody, every grandmother.

Was any other data corrupted other than this particular area?

That's what we need to know, but my understanding is no, just the area around the pipe bomb.

And it was very precise data that would actually give you the distance from the cell tower.

So this is what we're, you know, kind of dealing with is you got to go off of some kind of premise.

Well,

we've learned who claimed to have corrupted the data.

And what they're saying is they were in such a hurry to download it before it automatically deleted that it

overloaded the server and the server corrupted all the data.

I'm thinking somebody needs some better servers if that's the case.

Yeah, yeah.

That's weird for AT ⁇ T.

Let Let me give you one more question on this, and then I want to move on to the shutdown.

What about the FBI saying that the bombs were viable

and lab never using that word viable?

What does that mean?

And also, is there a chance that this was some sort of a training exercise or these were training exercise bombs?

Well, that is something I've recently brought up is when you look at the lab report from the FBI, and we're looking a little deeper in that lab report too.

It never does use the word, as you said, the word viable.

It does say that there were explosive

components in it, but it never says that it was enough to cause a massive explosion.

And so from my time in the military,

We did a lot of different training exercises.

And if you're going to do a real training exercise, you make things as realistic as possible.

I mean, I remember when I was in the Air Force, we had a simulated attack on our base.

We literally had jets flying overhead shooting blanks, right?

You try to make it as realistic as possible, especially for an exercise like this.

You want a device that looks like a bomb and it smells like a bomb for a bomb-sniffing dog.

But here's the issue: we have video of the Secret Service with a bomb-sniffing dog walking literally within feet of where the bomb supposedly was placed the night before and never hits on anything.

So if it was,

which makes money, if it is a training exercise, if it is a training exercise, the bomb wasn't there when the dog was walking by,

or he should have hit on it.

So there's more questions than answers, but at least we have a direction to go.

So I think there is a possibility that these were, whether it was a training exercise or somebody just used training type devices to put out there.

But if you go back and you look at the videos we released a year ago, law enforcement were letting people just walk by these devices.

There's one video of a guy in a suit walking within feet of the robot that's about to destroy the device.

That makes no sense, unless somebody knew they weren't viable.

Okay.

Barry, let me take a one-minute break.

I've got to come back.

I want to ask you,

explain to people who don't understand what's going on, why is the government shut down?

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So, Barry, can you explain the shutdown?

I mean,

as I understand it, the government is shut down because the

Democrats want to make sure that they continue funding Obamacare for illegals, which is completely outrageous.

But we're not even talking about a long-term solution here.

We're not talking about actually passing a real budget.

We're just talking about another extension of this budget.

Tell me what's going on and how people

look at this.

Yeah, you're exactly exactly right.

The underlying problem is Congress hasn't followed the law since I have been in Congress.

I think the last time we actually appropriated

according to law, I think Newt Gingrich was speaker.

So we have to overhaul the system to where it works more efficiently.

But by September 30th, Congress is supposed to have fully funded.

the government.

Now, traditionally, the House does a better job with it.

It usually gets stalled in the Senate.

And what happens is you keep doing these, these, you punt, you kick the ball down the field a little bit to give more time.

And then at the end of the year, leadership gets together and they pass one big, huge bill that's hard to determine what's in it, an omnibus.

So we're trying to change that.

But it came September 30th.

We had not passed appropriations.

So the idea was let's just extend the current funding.

that had been passed on a huge bipartisan basis that all the Democrats voted for the same bill back in March.

Let's extend extend it out into November to give us a little bit more time to try to finish the process appropriately and have more time for negotiating some of these issues.

That's all it is, is giving us more time until the middle of November.

But the Democrats saw this as an opportunity to undo some of Trump's policy.

They never expected Republicans because traditionally

it's hard for us to unify.

And so we held together.

We got this big, beautiful bill through.

We got his rescissions package through.

We got things that I've been wanting to do since I've been in Congress.

And they saw this as an opportunity to undo some of that, including giving government subsidies, taxpayers' money, taking the money out of hardworking Americans' pockets and give it to people who aren't even supposed to be in this country.

That is the premise.

That is the main portion of what they want to do, as well as $1.3 billion dollars or trillion dollars of new spending.

I mean, this is, it's, it's egregious what they're they're wanting.

And if they want that, that's what this time period is supposed to be for negotiating it.

But they know they can't get there.

They never expected Republicans to be unified.

And

President Trump is, he's doing exactly what I have advocated in the past, is when you go into these shutdowns,

what is furloughed is what's considered non-essential employees.

My question has always been: why do we have people working for the federal government that aren't essential to the core constitutional purpose of the federal government?

So he's saying this is the time to just go ahead and lay these people off.

And so

this is kind of where we are.

I mean, you're not, and in the past, like when

we went to shutdown under Obama,

the executive branch, the president gets to determine what programs are scuttled, which ones are shut down.

And Obama decided, let's make the cuts that's most painful to the American people.

So he shut down the parks.

TSA was part of the fly.

Trump's doing the opposite.

He's going to use this and say, this is the opportunity to trim down government.

We're going to make sure the American people get everything that they need.

Parks are going to stay open.

Love it.

This is our opportunity to right-size government.

Okay.

Barry, thank you so much.

Hang on with me because I want to talk to you about,

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Things are happening so rapidly all around the world.

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We have more on that with Charlie Brooks Pastor, who's going to be joining us in an hour.

What's happening in Canada?

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Barry is a good friend of the program and a great, great American patriot.

who is working hard in Washington to try to get answers on January 6th and some of this weaponization stuff.

We just were talking to him about that.

But I picked up, Barry, I wish somebody would have sent this book to me personally.

I don't even know how I got it.

It was just sitting on my desk, I think, up at my ranch, and I pick it up.

I'm getting on an airplane.

I pick it up, and I'm like, oh, Barry's got a new book out.

And it was like, I don't know, two months after the book came out.

And I take it on the plane.

I start reading it.

And, you know, sometimes American history books just bore the snot out of me.

This was so compelling and so good and such, I mean, it's a message that, you know, is good at any time, but especially after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, something has happened in America.

And this is how our patriots throughout time have

prayed.

And the difference that that prayer has made over and over and over again.

And I just think it's a fabulous book.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

And by the way, I actually sent that to you.

I know you're busy.

I just reached out to your office and I said,

how can I get this book to him?

And they gave me the address to your place out there.

That's how it happened.

I saw it.

Yeah, yeah.

Somebody opened it then.

I didn't get a note or anything.

I just saw the book, and I'm like, so I'm sorry that I didn't get back to you, but it is, it's fabulous, Barry.

It's really good.

Well, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, that was one of our pre-released copies.

I think you got the second or third one.

President Trump got the first one.

Wow.

And I've been told he's been reading it.

So

tell the audience the arc of the book,

the reason why you wrote it and tell some of the stories in it.

Well, the reason is we're going into the 250th anniversary of our country.

And as our good friend, David Barton speaks of all the time,

this is the longest any government like this has ever existed, far beyond what anyone anticipated it would.

And people are wondering with all this going on, how can we go any longer?

Can we go another 10, 20, or 250 years?

And my answer to this was yes, if we go back and look at what sustained us for the first 250 and repeat that.

And our founders spoke openly and regularly about God's acts of divine providence, especially during the Revolutionary War.

And I mean, even George Washington's first act as president was to declare a National Day of Thanksgiving and prayer, acknowledging all of those acts of providence.

Most people today can't tell you one, two, or three of those acts, even though there's several books about acts of providence during the time of the Revolutionary War.

But God's providence didn't end there.

It continued throughout our history, and I could not find any books on this.

And

these are stories my dad, a World War II veteran, had told me that he had learned.

And so I spent actually 10 years of research to make sure that everything in this book is well documented and factual.

And it spans from 1746 up into the 20th century, the Apollo 8 space mission, of

moments in history that are clearly, undeniably,

the outcome was a result of prayer, as well as the courage of the people who were involved.

And, I mean, there's several stories in there that just are my daughter.

Let's start backwards.

Let's start with Apollo 8 and then tell me something that happened in World War II.

So with the Apollo 8 mission, it was the first time that we were leaving the gravitational pull of Earth and orbiting the moon.

It was a huge advancement for the United States.

And one of the things that the crew realized is they were going to, first of all, they were going to do a broadcast as they were orbiting the moon, and it was going to be on Christmas Day.

And they also were advised when you have that broadcast, whatever you say is going to be heard around the world because it was going to be the largest watched television

story ever.

And so they really struggled with what they were going to say.

And so two things happened.

One was the commander was supposed to read it, was supposed to pray at his church on that weekend, but because they accelerated the timeframe of their mission, he wasn't able to be there to read scripture and to pray.

So he had his prayer recorded as they were orbiting the moon and played at his church.

And it's a tremendous prayer.

But

the rest of the crew surprised the entire world because when it came time for them to give this broadcast, they read

the Genesis story, the first six verses out of the book of Genesis.

And it's an incredible story.

And then NASA faced lawsuits as a result of what they're doing.

But these were people, these are the types of people that knew this was the opportunity to get America to reflect back on what has sustained us as a country.

And it's the providence of God.

I'm sorry.

Give me your favorite story from World War II that's in the book.

So, yeah, so probably it's the story of that great

evangelist of the gospel, General George Patton.

People don't think of George Patton as that type of person.

But the story is

Patton is after D-Day.

They push through.

They're stuck in France because of bad weather.

Over in Holland, you've got tremendous snows, and that's where my dad was during World War II.

And

so

with his frustration, he calls his chaplain, Patton does, and he says,

Do we have an official army prayer for good weather for battle?

And he says, well, let me look it up.

He finds out there isn't.

So he comes back and says, sir, we don't have one.

He said, well, then I want you to write one.

And so the chaplain asks, you know, what are you going to do with this?

And Patton goes through this dissertation about the power of prayer.

And it's just amazing.

If you have pastors preach that

monologue he gives

his chaplain today, as he's teaching his chaplain about the power of the prayer, I mean, you'd be amazed with the impact we would have from the churches.

But he talks about how prayer is so powerful.

It's like plugging into a live electric circuit to get things done.

But one of the things he tells his chaplain, and this is where the title of the book comes from, he said,

there are three things that we do to achieve victory: planning, working, and prayer.

He says, planning is when we sit down and we lay out an entire battle plan.

The working is the training where we prepare the soldiers for battle.

But what really decides the difference between victory and defeat is that void between those.

And that void, if it's filled with prayer, that's what makes the difference.

for victory.

And so when you look at what they did, and this was preceding the Battle of the Bulge,

Our founders, they would plan, they would prepare for battle, and then they prayed.

And that's what made all the difference.

And in this case, Patton Made

printed 250,000 little cards that had this prayer on it, and they distributed those to every soldier in the Third Army.

And those

prayer cards

arrived right after Patton had been mobilized to relieve Baston that had been surrounded by Nazis during the Battle of the Bulge.

And amazingly, within 24 hours after those prayer cards landed, the weather unexpectedly changed.

The snows quit.

They were expected to go for two more weeks.

The Army Air Corps was in the air and drove the Nazis back across the line.

And George Patton fully attributed that miracle to the prayer card.

So I have a story on this particular event.

I have an article.

I can't remember if it's Life magazine.

It's one of those older magazines that did a spread on this back in the 1940s after the war.

And it was crediting as a source one of the main guys that was with Patton.

And he said that, you know, they had prepared, they had done, and then the storms and the rains and the snows and everything just bogged everything down.

They couldn't move.

They just couldn't move.

And Patton was, he went in.

This is the story that I have, and I don't know if it's true or not.

Patton went in to a church and he was praying.

And apparently, the guy who was the source of this one story said he was standing outside and he was speaking to the Lord and he was angry and he was like, we've done everything and we have prayed.

And we need your help.

We need just, we just need a day or two of this to stop.

Please, please help us.

And he was, he said he was very animated and a little bit cross.

And then he left and asked to develop the prayer, et cetera, et cetera.

And then after the rain stopped, they went in.

Because the rains and the snows stopped,

they could move the tanks and all the equipment and they won.

And he said in this article from Life magazine years ago, that Patton actually went back to that same church and begged for forgiveness for a moment of passion and thanked God.

Do you know if that part is true?

I have read that.

I believe it is

because we found information about that.

And it was his initial experiences praying in that chapel, that church.

He somewhat references it in his speech because that's when he realizes that the advancement that they had made so far from landing at D-Day all the way into France, he said is because our families and the people back home are praying for us.

Correct.

And he says, but that is no longer enough.

We have to have every soldier in the Third Army praying now.

And that was as a result of his prayer in the chapel as he realized we need more prayer.

Barry, I can't believe the

providential timing of your book.

I mean, I know you released it this summer, but I think the time for it to really show its face is right now.

I think because of the unfortunate death of Charlie Kirk, the assassination of our good friend,

I believe we are in the beginning of what could be,

if we maintain it, a real revival.

Because

I know

nothing will save us except God.

And if we turn back to him, we recognize him, we praise him, we humble ourselves, and we pray for his help, the Lord will save us again, Whether we deserve it or not, he will extend his grace.

And

I just think your book is so providentially timed.

Well, I appreciate it.

We felt very led to release this book on July the 4th this year.

And our goal is to get this into as many hands as we can.

We have churches that have told us they're using it as Sunday school curriculum.

Good.

I spoke to a group of pastors yesterday, and the pastor that introduced me brought the book up and he said, every one of you need this.

This is great sermon material right here.

Some of the most prominent pastors

across the nation have contacted me and said, hey, may I use this story in my sermon?

I'm like, absolutely.

This is what it's there for.

We want people to know these stories.

and share these stories, especially with this next generation coming up, because I'm with you.

I believe the assassination of Charlie Kirk is telling us that we are in the midst of this new revival.

And the reason I say that is something my dad would tell me.

Look, since I've been in Congress, I have been through two assassination attempts.

I've been run over.

I mean, I've been through more than most people ever go through their life.

And I've...

One thing my dad used to tell me is he said, look, son, if you're going through something

that's bad, a tribulation, it could be a good thing.

Because he said, look, before we landed on the beaches of Normandy, when we were training in England, the Nazis weren't shooting at us.

When we got on the ships, they weren't shooting at us.

When we got on the Higgins boats and just left the ship, they weren't shooting at us.

It was when we started taking their ground.

It's when they started shooting.

And the closer we got, the more intense the fire was.

He said, that's how you could tell where your target was, was how intense the fire was.

So he said, look, if you're not being attacked, you need to consider maybe you're not a threat to the enemy or you're over the wrong target.

But if you are, it could be a sign that you're doing the right thing and you're taking ground.

And I think that's where we are right now.

But we have to be equipped to know it is this very thing, prayer, that has sustained us for 250 years against all odds.

Barry, thank you so much.

I really appreciate it.

We'll talk again.

And I really want to reach out to you in the next couple of days and talk to you about doing the voice work for this because I just, I believe in it so much.

Thank you so much.

Well,

Representative Barry Lautermilk.

Go ahead.

I'm sorry.

I was just going to say, if people want it, it's andthenthayprayed.com.

And you can get all the information on it there.

Yep.

The name of the book is And Then They Prayed.

You can get it at and ThenTheyPrayed.com by Barry Laudermilk.

It is a must-read.

Everyone should have it.

It's not that hard to read.

It's very short.

Each chapter is a different story, and it is fabulous, really good.

Barry Laudermilk, and Then They Prayed.

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We have a epidemic of loneliness, and I want to talk about that coming up in 60 seconds.

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I want to talk to you about loneliness.

But first, I just want to say, I don't know your name.

I don't know where you're sitting right now, what's in your hands, even if you've spoken to another person today, but I do know you're there.

I can feel it somehow or another.

I don't know how, maybe just the same way you know that I'm speaking directly to you,

even though this is mass broadcast.

But I want to thank you for meeting me here again today

and remind you that you're here for a reason.

We all are.

We're here for a reason.

And

something wild and miraculous is happening in our country right now.

I just want you to recognize first, you didn't have to be here.

You could have not turned on the radio.

You could have listened to another podcast, but you didn't.

For some reason, you're listening to this one.

And you and I are both trying to just make sense of a world that just doesn't seem to make much sense.

And sometimes that can make you feel incredibly lonely.

More and more Americans right now are spending more and more time alone.

We have a loneliness epidemic going on.

And it's weird because we live at a time where communications have never been easier.

You can talk to people all around the world, and yet we're alone.

I'm experiencing this in my own life in a weird way.

My kids have moved out.

My older kids moved from next door.

They left for the snowy tundra of the north.

And my younger kids are now on their own.

And we're selling our house.

And we've had time to walk around that big empty house filled with memories.

And it's really lonely when everybody is gone.

It's really lonely.

You know, people always say, nobody on their deathbed ever said, I wish I would have spent more time at work.

I'm going through that right now.

I'm living a future that it might be, you know, perhaps like you.

A life well spent, but everybody's spread all over the country and you have a ton of time on your hands alone.

And that plays games with your head, doesn't it?

Loneliness is a strange thing because it's not just the absence of people.

You can be surrounded by people, packed shoulder to shoulder on a subway, hearing their laughter through the apartment walls, feeling the vibration of life all around you, and yet it's like you're sealed inside of a glass room that nobody else can see into.

They don't look at you.

They don't hear you.

And maybe after a while, in dark moments, you start to wonder, am I even really here at all?

I can only relate to this in the way I have seen.

I lived in New York City, and that is a lonely place to be.

You're surrounded by people.

I saw this play out in front of me when I was in New York City.

I was waiting for my daughter at lunch, and she was running late.

And there was this restaurant that we would eat at, and it was down under

Rockefeller Center.

It was right at the ice rink at Rockefeller Center.

And I was sitting on a table for two by a window that looked right out on the ice.

And

I saw this woman.

She looked much older than she was, I'm sure.

Kind of like Adrienne from Rocky.

Do you remember in that first movie?

That's how I think of her now, is Adrienne from Rocky.

She was pretty, but

she didn't didn't see it.

And maybe it was because nobody in her life saw her that way.

I'm not really sure.

But she came out and she sat down on this bench and she pulled out of this tattered bag her own ice skates.

And they were really nice ice skates.

Didn't match what she was wearing or her bag.

And they were not new.

They were just really well cared for.

And I watched her take off her shoes and put each one on and lace them up tightly.

And then

she stood up and she stood on the ice and this frumpy woman that honestly, if she hadn't have sat right in front of my window, and maybe because I didn't have a phone to scan, I may not have ever seen her.

And she stands up and she gets onto the ice and she is so graceful.

She is floating.

Like she became like a natural element, one with the ice.

It was amazing.

Every move was angelic or like a ballerina.

And my daughter came to the table and I said, look at this woman.

Look, watch her.

And we watched her for 30 minutes or so.

And she was so graceful.

She would gracefully just, I mean, it looked like art.

She would skate around the clods like me that were about to crash into her.

And she was in her own world.

I sat there and my daughter and I talked about her.

Was she a professional skater, do you think?

Was she in the Olympics at one point?

I mean, she's really good.

And then she came off the ice and she sat right back down in front of our window and she opened up that frumpy, worn bag.

She took off her skates, put them in, and put on her shoes, and she once again became the woman who

the world, I don't think, ever really saw.

And it didn't take long before she just blended into the sea of people and just disappeared.

I think about her almost I think about her all the time

because it's not just her, you know.

I wondered, does she come here for her lunch every day?

Who is she?

Where does she work?

Does anybody know what she has in her bag that probably sits on the floor next to her desk?

Does anybody know she's really an artist inside?

I've thought about her for years and perhaps more lately.

I've written movies in my head about her.

Movies that aren't ever going to be made, but I see them on the screen of my mind.

She's the star in a world where

she does her nine to five.

She doesn't dress for anyone because she knows who she is and what others people think is not just important to her.

Her job is just that.

It's a job.

She has friends there.

But her real life, her real joy, is at home.

And when she gets home, her husband sees her as the beautiful, graceful, angelic woman that she actually is.

Imagine she was there alone

on her lunch hour

because her kids were in school, but most evenings in the winter you'll find her skating with her children, and her daughter watches mom skate as she holds on to the side of the wall until she can find her own balance.

She thinks while watching her mom that I want to grow up to be just like her.

How many people exist all around us that no one knows, that you don't know?

You walk by the desk every day and you don't really know them.

Have you ever just sat down in a park and just really looked at a crowd

and seen the ones that are alone and unseen by the crowd all around them and wondered, what is their story?

Where do they come from?

What do they do?

And no one stops to notice.

And there are millions of us.

And maybe sometimes you're left with a gnawing in your chest that whispers,

have I been forgotten?

I mean,

does my story even matter?

My mom

thought before she killed herself that the world would be fine without her.

In fact, she thought it would be better off without her.

That was a lie.

The game's loneliness plays with your head.

And it convinces you to stay quiet, stop reaching out, because why would anybody care?

I just want you to know you're here for a reason.

And maybe, maybe that reason is because you need to hear.

People do care.

I care.

Or maybe it's because you're supposed to send that message to somebody else today.

That right right now, in this moment, you're not invisible.

You're not forgotten.

You're heard.

And you're seen.

I've been doing a lot of thinking lately.

Perhaps Tubach.

I don't know yet.

Looking over the horizon, see what's coming or what is possible.

And that's a blessing.

It can be a curse on some days, bad days.

It's a curse.

But in the end, I always come back to no matter what's happening in our world or our life, it's a blessing because

we write the future.

It doesn't write us.

And that's something that is lost too many times.

Don't allow

time

to write your future.

Take control of it.

Write your own future.

Know that things can always change, but wherever you are is the right place for you right now.

What is it you're supposed to learn?

What is it you're supposed to do right now?

What is the next right thing?

Knowing that with God all things are possible, and with Him, you're never alone.

I want you to know

that we may never shake hands, we may never share a table, we may never laugh over something small and stupid together.

But if I could,

I would look you straight in the eye and tell you without blinking that you matter and I am grateful that you are here.

The world is different because you're in it.

And maybe you can't see that right now,

but I promise you it's true.

And

if you're not struggling with this, somebody else you know is,

and you need to tell them what I just told you.

In this sea of loneliness, so strange, in this

epidemic of loneliness,

people begin

to feel it's because they're broken.

Loneliness is not proof that you're broken.

Loneliness is proof that you're human.

Maybe there's not enough human stuff that we do every day.

Because we were built for connection, one-on-one.

Look each other in the eye, talk to each other.

Feel somebody's hand, their shoulder, whatever it is, that connection, that love,

that meaning that we all search for.

And every time we reach for someone,

every time we put those lies behind us, every small act of defiance like that, against those whispers, you are punching a hole in the glass wall that's all around you.

We need to tell each other,

you're not as alone as you think you are.

Nobody wants to say it out loud, but we're all alike.

We just have different things that are going on in our life, different things things we're ashamed of.

We're all alike.

That is the thing that will break the spell.

Understanding that we are all alike, that we're not that unique.

It's so weird because we are all individuals and we all are unique and we all have our own talents and our own gifts and our own role to play

that does not

duplicate.

I can't duplicate you and you can't duplicate me because we're all unique.

But then again, we're all exactly the same.

It's this weird thing that...

But once you get your arms around that, once you realize I'm not

different,

we all feel these things.

We all

have something inside of us that we're afraid of.

in some way or another.

We're afraid we'll be exposed.

We're afraid that people will figure out we're a fraud.

We don't really belong here.

We're not really good enough to be here.

We're whatever it is.

Once we realize, now everybody in the room feels that way.

Some people have just

recognized it

and conquered it.

And the way I conquered it was to talk about it, talk about the flaws in my life.

I remember Stu was with me one of his first days.

He was an intern.

And somebody had called up and said, oh, you're Mr.

Perfect.

Because at the time, I had this squeaky clean image, but I was a raging alcoholic, raging alcoholic.

My life was all screwed up.

And somebody said, oh, you're Mr.

Squeaky Clean.

And

I stopped.

Do you remember this, dude?

And I stopped in the middle of this conversation with somebody.

And I said,

you know what?

Let me tell you something.

You don't know who I am.

Let me tell you who Glenn Beck is.

And it was at this time that I was,

I didn't want to do radio anymore.

and I was going to throw my career away.

And I just, I was looking for a way to implode.

So give me an excuse to go back to school and honestly become a chef.

That's what I really wanted to do: be a chef at the time.

God, what was wrong with me?

But I said, you know, let me tell you who I really am.

And the whole room went quiet.

Everybody,

all of the producers, everybody on the show looked at me like, oh, dear God, what is he doing?

And I said, you know who I really am?

I got this problem and this problem.

You know, I'm struggling against, you know, alcoholism right now.

I'm getting a divorce.

And I shut the air, and I was really raw about it.

And I really did say some of the worst things about me.

And I turned the mic off and I looked at Stu and I said, Stu, write this day down.

This is the day Glenn Beck ended his career.

And the exact opposite happened.

It was the weirdest thing.

The thing that I had been afraid of, that people would know who I really was,

ended up being the thing

that

taught me we're all alike.

Because I had people come up to me after that, and they said in whispers, They'd glance around like, is anybody listening?

Hey, what you said the other day?

I can't believe you had the balls to say that.

Thank you for saying that because I'm going through exactly the same thing.

I just didn't want anybody to know I thought I was alone.

And after I had multiple people come up to me on the first day and say things like that, always in a whispered tone, hey, you know, don't say anything about this, but

I realized, oh my gosh,

we're all struggling with the same self-doubt.

All of us.

You know, I look at my kids now and they're struggling through so many things.

And I want to say, I know, I've been there, I've done it, but they don't hear it because

it's something about, I don't know, teenagers or 20-somethings that where you have to just go through this yourself and you think everybody else who's older is stupid

and can't relate, but we can, and they'll figure that out at some point

because we all do it.

We all go through the same thing.

I just want you to know

you're not as alone as you think you are.

And if the only proof you have is, you know, my voice in this moment, let it be enough for you to know that somebody,

even though strangely he was the guy on the radio or on the podcast, somebody saw you today.

And I'm glad you're here.

Really, truly.

I'm glad you're here.

It makes it worth me showing up every day.

We're going to take a quick break here in a minute, and then I'm going to come back with Rob McCoy.

He was Charlie Kirk's pastor,

and he was on with me, when was it, two weeks ago, Stu, when we first started talking about South Korea?

Was it last week?

I don't even remember.

Time is gone.

But Rob McCoy,

he is Turning Point's faith co-chair, and he

was just over in South Korea

and saw one of the pastors we talked about last night on my TV show, Pastor Soon.

Pastor Soon, he was only allowed to see him for about 10 minutes.

It was quite emotional because

what they're doing in South Korea should serve as a very loud warning to America on multiple levels, not only what's coming here and across the world, but

also what happens if we lose the ally of South Korea, because that's the direction it's heading.

Talk to him next.

Glenn Beck.

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The Glenbeck program.

Dude was just telling me off the air.

He's like, I remember that day, and

it wasn't a good day.

I do remember that day.

Yeah, it was strange because, you know, I was new in broadcasting and had never heard anyone have an emotional breakdown on the air.

And it wasn't emotional breakdown.

It was, it was.

It wasn't.

Yeah.

I'm mocking you, but it was, it was, I've never heard anyone have a moment like that.

And honestly, very rarely since, and probably all with you, but like the, you had blurred.

I honestly, to this day, don't remember even what it was, but you said something about your life that was pretty like revealing and overtly negative.

You know, I mean, you, you, you say things like, I'm an alcoholic, and, you know, that, that's.

No, I was very specific.

Yeah, I don't remember what it was, but it was, it was something where it was like,

you know,

alcoholism, right?

A lot of people struggle with it.

It's, you know, known as a disease.

You know, like, you know,

saying something like that is

understandable, but it was something more specific than that.

And I was, I remember thinking, like, yeah, like, I think a good chunk of your audience is just going to dislike you.

You know, it's like how they talk about how characters from Seinfeld are all no one likes them.

And that you can't put a show on the air when no one likes any of the characters.

And they proved that wrong, as you have for many, many years.

Thank you.

Thank you for that.

Let Let's talk to somebody who is actually likable.

Rob McCoy, Turning Points

faith co-chair, good friend of Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's pastor.

He just got back from South Korea.

Pastor, welcome back.

How are you?

I'm good, Glenn.

And I think you're a likable character.

Spend some time.

Get to know me.

Come on.

Come on.

So

let's talk about what you experienced in South Korea.

We talked, I think, a week ago or maybe a little longer,

where they're starting to, I mean, it's bad.

I talked to the pastor's son last night from Korea on the TV show, and it is really becoming dystopian and authoritarian over in

South Korea.

Yeah,

it reminds me of the Hemingway novel, The Sun Also Rises, where he said it happened gradually than suddenly.

And that's what's happening in South Korea.

They've packed the Supreme Court from 14 justices.

Now they're going to 30.

It's no longer rule of law.

It's rule by law.

And they just arrested the communications commissioner.

It's awful.

I mean, I met with Assemblywoman Na, who was a previous judge, and she's the longest serving Assemblywoman in the Conservative Party, and she's fearful.

I mean, they're making a hit list to get all these people arrested.

And we're losing an ally rapidly.

Yeah, and if we lose that ally,

we don't really have a way to protect Australia, New Zealand, Japan.

I mean, that is a massive strategic area for us.

And that's not my first concern, but it is

a very large concern.

My first concern is what's happening over there is happening to all of the Western world.

They just are a little further ahead than seemingly everybody else.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean,

the Chinese so we took a flight after I had spoken in Pastor Soon's church in Pusan, and then we flew into Seoul to meet with some folks and also do a protest in front of the courthouse for Pastor Seon.

But on the plane, it's interesting, that day they had lifted all visa requirements for Chinese.

And the Koreans are the most polite people on the planet.

And we get on this plane, it's packed.

And as as we're getting off, they're bum rushing to get off the plane.

And they said these are all Chinese people.

And

if they're there, I think it's four months.

They have the ability to vote.

China's invading, without any shots being fired, all of South Korea.

And Pastor Seon is a rarity in that country in that he's standing in opposition to it.

And most of the pastors are silent.

They're starting to get encouragement, and they're starting to stand.

And we did have a good attendance in the protests in front of the courthouse, but we got a lot of work to do to get these people awake.

Like I said, we're going to lose an ally, but more importantly, this country is going to fall to communism.

That is so crazy to think.

I mean, when we think of North Korea and what they've gone through and how close of an ally and how they are for freedom and they understand North Korea, they have just,

this new regime has come in and done everything that has been tried to be done in in Europe by just opening up the borders, except they're opening it to communist Chinese.

And

it's just slipping away so fast.

How long do you think before it's done?

Well, you know, I met with some business leaders.

I met with politicians.

And

the greatest stopgap we have, and I don't know if the administration knows this.

You know, Glenn, you're in the book of who's who.

I'm in the book of of who's he.

I'm not a political operative.

I don't know, you know, a lot of big names.

But I do know that I don't even think we have a South Korean ambassador appointed right now.

We don't.

And the greatest stopgap we have is tariffs.

If the president can establish two-tier tariffs by simply saying, look, religious freedom and no arresting of the opposition party, this will be your tariff.

If you don't, this is what you're going to get.

And just smoke them

because

these business owners want their country back.

They're willing to take a hit because they're watching the country evaporate before their very eyes.

And the president can do that with these tariffs.

He did it for two reasons.

One is to bring manufacturing back, and two is to have political leverage.

And this country needs help.

They've been our greatest ally.

Real quick,

I spoke in Pastor Sohn's church on that Sunday, and it was to the day, the 75th anniversary of the UN forces liberating Seoul from the grasp of the communist Chinese.

And here we are, we're giving it right back to him because we're sound asleep at the wheel.

You saw the pastor for, what, 10 minutes with his son

for the first time since he's been arrested.

What was that like?

You know,

the man is amazing.

I go in there and I sit down.

His wife is there and she's strong as can be.

She reminds me of the Korean equivalent of Erica Kirk.

She hasn't lost her husband, but here he is in prison.

And he just said, I'm standing strong.

And I told him, I said, Pastor Son, you're the freest man in Korea because you're here in obedience to God.

And obedience to

defiance to tyrants is obedience to God.

And he's doing that.

And then I told him, I said, you know, I came here because you're my friend, but more importantly, to fulfill a promise for Charlie.

And I've never seen this man cry ever.

And you don't cry in Korea.

And he broke down crying.

And his son even commented to me, I've never seen my dad cry like this.

This is unbelievable.

He told me that to me last night.

He said, my father broke down in tears.

I didn't know what to even think.

I've never seen him cry.

Yeah.

And

he's, but he even said, I'm on a mission trip.

And I said, you're probably going to have to stay here until the church wakes up.

And he says, as long as it takes, he's committed to getting his country back.

And, And, you know, most of the folks I talked to, I said, look, you guys are going to be political dissidents if this doesn't hold out.

And they said, we're not leaving our country.

We're going to fight for it.

You know, God gave us this country.

It's important to us.

It's important to America.

And I just wish our government would wake up to it, which I hope they will.

And, you know, churches, because of your help, Glenn, are waking up.

A lot of pastors want to go over there.

But the current president has now outlawed foreign

protesting.

He's doing everything he can to just stop any opposition voice.

And I'm surprised that I got out of the country because I

turned to the police and I said, look, Romans 13 says, you're a minister of justice to execute wrath on those who would do evil.

You don't point your gun at those who are doing good.

You're here to protect the people, you know, not enslave them.

And then I walked right through with my friend Stephen Martin, Pastor Stephen from Texas.

And we walked through those police officers, looked them right in the eye after I said that.

Five of them were looking at us like thank you, and the others were bowing their head in shame.

They're in a lot of trouble, and we've got to pray for them, but we also have to activate as a government.

I'm going to call the president either today or tomorrow.

Rob, would you just write a note to me and tell me exactly what you need him to hear, and I will pass it on to him.

I will do exactly that, Glenn.

Yeah.

How can we help?

Well, first of all, Glenn, I just want to commend you and your entire audience.

You have been the pebble in the pond, and the ripples are going out.

And

the definition of a friend is when the whole world goes out, they come in.

You're that friend, and you have created this stir.

So I would say to all of your radio audience, any connection you have in your circle of influence, get this out.

Most of the pastors I'm talking to, they're saying the same.

We didn't know.

We just didn't know.

Well, it's catching on.

And it is like wildfire.

We know what those are out here in California.

And you're starting a fire, and I'm grateful for it.

And everybody's happening

It's happening so fast.

I mean, when you think of South Korea, you don't think of it being a country that is about to be taken by the Chinese,

you know, that's about to go communist.

And it's already gone authoritarian.

I mean, the things that they have done now, they are just arresting anyone who is a conservative.

They're just arresting them and throwing them in jail.

They're dismantling everything.

As you said, I mean, you know, I talked to Alan Dershowitz about, you know, the rise and fall of

democracies.

And he said the last thing, and this is the knockout punch, is they change the Supreme Court.

And they usually end up, you know, putting doubling the size of it or whatever.

He said, when they do that, you no longer have the rule of law.

And as you started with, that's just, they've just done that.

I mean,

it's so bad for the West.

So bad.

Just to give Americans an idea,

especially conservative Americans, we went through the Biden administration.

Imagine Kamala winning and getting the House and the Senate by filibuster-proof majority, packing the Supreme Court.

That's where we are today.

They would be suppressing religious freedom.

They're silencing opposition voice.

They would have put President Trump in jail for 700 years.

They would have imprisoned his family.

Anyone who stood with him, they'd be in prison.

Just what we went through, just imagine imagine it exponential.

And that's, that's where Korea is right now.

Your sign of hope

from over there.

Let me ask you this.

The people that did the, and I don't even want to mention names, but I had one of the young ladies in my office, and she was, she said, you know, we were part of this.

Charlie, we brought Charlie over, yada, yada.

And I,

you know, I, I said to her, you're going home and you might be arrested.

And she said, oh, yeah, I know, but I have to go home.

How are they feeling?

How is that movement?

Because of that young lady's work and these young people, there were certain times where I'd be in a large mall in Seoul or I'd be in Pousson.

People would come up for autographs because they had seen either the church service or they had seen YouTube videos produced by a number of

outlying

non-traditional media that we had done there.

And they were coming up for autographs.

They wanted a picture, and it's young people.

They want their country back, and they're looking that they started a movement there, and pastors are waking up as well.

So my hope is that

there is twenty percent of that nation that is committed to doing anything necessary to stand in opposition to this, even be put in jail, and we've got to come and help them.

And I told them, I said, look,

Churchill was completely surrounded, all of Europe had fallen, and he held on in Great Britain until until America entered the war.

Hang on, hang on, I'm going to go back and do my best.

Anything you need, Rob.

Anything you need.

We have you.

I know that.

Like I know the nose on my face, Glenn.

You guys are epic.

And I just can't.

I love you as much as a man can love another man and still be a man.

Thanks a lot, Rob.

Appreciate it.

All right, brother.

Thank you.

All right.

Bye.

Rob McCoy

from TPUSA, Charlie Kirk's pastor, and just an amazing man.

Please pay attention and pray for South Korea.

It's not on anybody's radar and it's going to be on everybody's radar soon.

You're just, as always, ahead of the curve.

So please inform your friends and tell your pastors to find out what's going on and speak about it.

This is persecution at the highest levels of Christians.

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Alberta is trying to break free.

Alberta is kind of like Texas for Canada, and it's trying to break free from Ottawa and the far-left ideology.

You know, they're now taking guns up in Canada.

I mean,

what's happening in South Korea is happening in Canada.

South Korea is just a little more dramatic

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abuse of rights on religious people.

But, I mean, Canada is headed there.

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I mean, is that even possible?

What is actually happening there?

And what is happening with the gun grab up in Canada?

Where is our ally Canada headed?

We're going to talk to Keith Wilson.

He is part of that movement.

He's a Canadian attorney and a freedom fighter.

We're going to talk to him about that coming up in just a minute in hour three of the podcast, hour three of the national broadcast.

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The American Christian country singer,

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He had his Canadian worship tour blocked by leftist politicians.

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Turns out the Antifa bomb thrower works for the Canadian Department of Defense, and yet the police still do nothing.

Plus, there is

a landmark event happening.

Ottawa is trying to take away guns in Canada from citizens,

from law-abiding gun owners, hunters, sports shooters.

They are starting to fight back.

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Alberta.

Alberta is much more like Texas than any other part of Canada.

They have a lot in common with Texas.

And they are now saying they want to break free of Canada, secession from Canada, and the Supreme Court has just laid out a way for them to actually do it legally.

We have one of the attorneys on this and to try to explain what's happening in Canada,

how crazy it's getting, why it's getting this crazy.

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Keith Wilson, Canadian attorney, to talk to us about what's happening up in Canada.

Hello, Keith.

How are you?

I'm great.

Good morning.

Thanks for having me on.

It's an honor.

It's great to have you on.

We've been trying to talk to somebody up in

Ottawa, I'm sorry, in Alberta, about what's happening for a while there.

I know things are moving at breakneck speed.

Bring us up to speed.

Can we start with the gun thing?

What is happening in Canada with Ottawa going after all the guns?

Well, it's really remarkable.

You know, here we are, your closest neighbor.

And,

you know, I'm sure Americans have this image of Canada, you know, strong and free and that visual of our Royal Canadian Mounted Police and their red serges riding horses and

all those sorts of things.

And the reality is Jeff we've just slipped very badly since the COVID

mandates into a very authoritarian dystopian type phase like we're seeing in other countries and the gun grab is a good example a few years ago the leftist federal liberal government they have a hate on for anything to do with guns and freedom and Christians and religion and So they announced that they were going to start building a list of guns we're not allowed to have.

They started with what they called assault-style rifles, which were really just scary-looking guns, anything that was black.

Anyway, over the years, they've expanded that list now up to

three or four hundred different models of hunting rifles, shotguns, sports shooting guns.

And there's over 500,000 guns that are now illegal.

We still hold them.

And this year, they've announced they're going to start a confiscation process of rounding up and taking our guns.

Boy, that is not going to end well, especially in places like Alberta.

I mean, do I have it right?

Alberta is kind of like Texas.

It's a ranch kind of area.

It's a wilderness.

It's tough, tough people that are independent-minded, right?

Not only that, you know, like, first of all, Alberta is just north of Montana.

We're a huge province.

We're about the same size and landmass as Texas.

And our origins are actually from Texans and people from the Dakotas and Wyoming after the Civil War moving up here and doing cattle drives.

So our background is our origins.

Our founders are Americans, but not only that, we have Alberta has the third largest reserve of oil and gas in the world.

And Texas has a lot of oil.

There's so many similarities.

Yes, we have a cowboy culture.

We're Texas North.

Guns are important to us.

We're hunters.

We've got that rugged individualism.

Our religion religion and our Christianity is really important to us.

So there's a huge amount of parallels between Alberta and Texas.

So I know how Texas would respond to this.

And it would be, get the hell off my land.

How is Alberta going to react to this?

Well, I mean, we all know that history has taught us that good things don't happen after governments take guns away from citizens.

Never.

Never.

And so Albertans are very mindful of that.

We're fundamentally distrustful of the federal government in Ottawa.

And this may sound provocative, but they basically hate Albertans.

They hate our conservatism.

They hate our Christianity.

They hate our sense of freedom, our belief in property rights and the rule of law and all those things that doesn't abide with the new progressive leftist Marxists.

So what our

province is like a state, the province of Alberta.

So we have a premier, which is like a governor.

and our premier, Premier Smith, has been very adamant that the police forces in Alberta are not to cooperate with the federal government when they come for the gun grab.

She's done some other really interesting legal things, like said that

the federal officials will have to get a seizure permit from our Attorney General.

And she says, she jokes, she has it on good authority that our Attorney General won't be issuing them.

But I mean, it will come to a head at some point.

It's frightening to think about that.

I don't know where it's going to go, but it's part of a pattern of many other events up here in Canada that

have led to so many Albertans to say, we want out of here.

We want to form our own country.

We want to be like Canada once was, true, North, strong, and free.

Okay, so

that is just terrifying, really terrifying.

Because, you know, especially with all that oil,

no country wants to let that go.

Do you think the rest of Canada will just be cool with that?

Yeah, well, you know, Alberta really has a unique culture.

And,

you know, there's great variety, as you know, variability in the culture of the United States.

I've traveled extensively with my family over the years.

You know, there's a great difference between the folks up in Connecticut and then there is the folks in Texas.

But, you know, the rest of Canada primarily,

our sister province to the east, it's called Saskatchewan.

They're very much aligned with us on everything.

And they not only have oil and gas, they also have the largest reserves of uranium in the world, as well as potash, which goes straight down into the farm fields of Iowa and so on.

So we're important

strategically for the United States, and these two provinces are aligned.

I think if Alberta votes to separate, Saskatchewan will come.

But other parts of Canada,

they're like these blue states in the U.S., the hardcore Democrats.

They think the most important thing to do is to display pride flags.

We started off with having Pride Week and LGBTQ stuff as a day, and then it became a week, and then it became a month, and it's a national celebration for a month and and all of these extremely progressive views, wide open immigration.

Our immigration numbers are out of control.

So their mindset in the rest of Canada is very much left-leaning, very much wanting government to look after everything, wanting government to care for every aspect of their life.

Whereas those of us in the West on the prairies in Alberta and Saskatchewan, no, we don't think government's very good at doing much of anything.

We'll look after our own problems.

We're rugged individualism, so there is an incredible divide in Canada.

Canada is not a united nate is not a nation that's united with common values anymore at all.

The rest of the country's gone very hard left, whereas Alberta and Saskatchewan have stayed true to conservative principles.

As a Canadian,

how does that feel to you?

It's very frightening.

You know, my wife and I have four kids.

Actually, you and I are the same age.

And, you know, so you know the things we think about, right?

And it's a scary time up here for the future of our kids.

The, you know, just the economic aspect of it alone.

There's the social cultural, which is downright frightening.

You know, the gun grab, what's happened to Sean Foyt and other examples, which we can talk about more.

But

the economics, Alberta

is the largest generator of wealth in our country through our oil and gas activities, our petrochemical, our refining, all of these things, our agriculture and so on.

And we have this goofy thing in our constitution where if one province is doing well, we have to send our wealth to the provinces that aren't doing well, notionally.

So they call it equalization.

Well, a number of the provinces in the other part of the country to the east get 20% of their budget from hardworking Albertans, and then they impose policies on us.

So, for example,

the federal liberals are all these green, you know, this green leftist stuff.

So, we've got a net zero rule, we've got a production cap, we've got a tanker ban, we've got all these things because they don't want Alberta to produce our oil and gas.

So, they're holding it in the ground, they're holding our economy back.

Albertans would be richer than citizens of Saudi Arabia or Dubai if they would let us produce our oil and gas.

They're not.

So all of these things are layering on top of one another.

This authoritarianism that we're seeing that started with the COVID mandates,

Canada had some of the most restrictive mandates in the world.

Many people don't realize that.

So

it's become a dark time up here.

The

thing is the progressives, the lefties in the rest of the country seem to be really happy with this and want government to give them more.

We have our notional free health care.

Now we have free dental notionally,

free prescriptions,

and

almost free daycare.

Of course, the government can't deliver any of those things.

They're all, you know, they're as real as Mickey Mouse.

Ike would contend their Mickey Mouse is realer than that, but

probably true.

The State Department, the mouse is very powerful, at least south of your border.

The State Department had a meeting, a second high-level meeting

in Washington, I think, on Monday.

And our administration is eager to recognize Alberta as an independent state or country.

Can you give me any insight on what is happening on this side of the border?

And what does that mean with our relationship with the nutjob parts of Canada?

Well, sure, I can.

I received a briefing from that delegation yesterday.

You know, I think the Trump administration is very concerned about what's happening in Canada.

You know,

your largest land border.

You know, what's interesting, too, just

a friend of mine, actually one of the people involved in the Freedom Convoy protest, is a retired Army captain up here, and he explained to me that part of the defense doctrine for the United States post-Cold War is a concern about Russia and or China teaming up and coming, invading the United States from the north.

So that would invasion come through Alberta, right?

And you're smart enough.

You're not going to wait till they get to Montana.

You're going to come up here.

So Alberta is very important strategically as well.

In fact, we have the most amount of military bases in Canada are in Alberta and the largest ones.

So

we're a very important strategic for a number of reasons.

Also, geopolitically, look what just happened with our leftist

ideological Prime Minister, Prime Minister Kearney.

He and his colleagues Steiner and Macron and one other unilaterally announced that they were going to recognize the state of Palestine at the same time that the Trump administration is making progress and trying to negotiate a peace deal.

You know,

the administration in Ottawa is doing a lot of things.

We have this Chinese corruption political interference thing.

The Chinese government has police stations.

So there's a lot of things for the U.S.

administration to be concerned about, about what's happening in Canada, many levels from many different lenses, as I've just described.

Then you have Alberta.

where our Supreme Court of Canada has said that if a province and the people of a province hold a province-wide referendum, a vote, and the vote is to leave Canada and become their own nation,

that they can do so.

Canada is unique in the world in that we're the only democracy where the government, the Constitution, the courts have laid out a legal process for a region, a state, or a province to secede and become their own independent nation.

And one of the critical steps in that process is international recognition.

So

my understanding from the meetings that have occurred that the Trump administration officials have indicated that the U.S.

would recognize a vote by the people of Alberta to become independent.

So that's very important to us as we go into, we expect the vote to occur in 2026, sometime around this time next year.

And

I think

I think the Trump administration also recognizes you guys have right above your border in Montana the third largest reserve of oil and gas in the world.

Look at the power of that, the energy independence.

It takes you from an energy superpower to a mega superpower.

And then we're completely culturally aligned.

So I think there's a recognition.

And Canada's

the leftists in Ottawa are being global disruptors.

They're not helping.

They're helping build

these governments with this anti-freedom, anti-Christian phenomena that we're seeing that it's hard to believe it's happening, but it is.

So

it's an encouraging fact that these discussions are occurring.

Heath, please stay in touch with us.

Anything that we can do to help, but I want to make sure America understands

the world that we are right on the brink of losing or changing and how dangerous these times are if we don't all keep our level heads.

And I've been watching you with great, great interest on what's happening because, you know, if we have better access to Coulter Wall, I'm all for it.

So

God bless you.

Thank you.

Thank you for everything you do.

And please pass on to your Canadian friends.

There are millions of us who pray for you and are with you in this fight.

God bless you.

That means a lot.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

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This hour we're talking to you about Canada.

The West is on the ropes.

You know, look at what's happening in Europe.

Look at what's happening in the UK.

The West is about to crumble and we would be right there with them if we hadn't have, if we had Kamala Harris, we would be going down this exact same road.

It is so critical that people understand this fight is not about Donald Trump.

This fight is not about the Republicans or the Democrats.

They're doing this in every...

They're arresting people like you and me in South Korea.

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They're now doing it in Canada.

They're not for Donald Trump.

Wait a minute.

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Do you hear Stephen Millard yesterday yesterday talking about, you know, what we're doing now in Memphis by order of the governor?

The governor has asked for help, national help.

So the National Guard is on its way into

Memphis to put an end to the madness in Memphis.

And here's Stephen Miller on this yesterday.

We will liberate this city from the criminal element that has plagued it for generations.

This is not just a strategy shift.

This is an attitude shift.

We are not going to live in an environment

anywhere where there is a street that belongs to a criminal, where there is a neighborhood that belongs to a gang, where there is any physical space anywhere that belongs to anyone other than the law-abiding citizens and families of Memphis.

The idea that there is a square inch of block in this city where a citizen doesn't feel safe is unacceptable.

This is Memphis.

This is the United States of America.

And all that

is done.

It's over.

It's finished.

That is.

Wow.

Meanwhile, in Portland,

Antifa has their 100 nights of rule.

They have now ruled the streets for 100 nights, and police aren't doing anything at all.

I mean, Stu, what are we headed for?

It's amazing.

You know, first of all, the Stephen Miller thing, you'd look, some people might look at that and say it's a bit utopian, right?

Like, how are you going to, it's Nirvana, you're going to be able to stop all crime?

No, but that should be the aspiration.

Should it not at least be,

you know, should it at least be the goal?

Goal?

One that you admit to and acknowledge?

Is it aspirational or reasonable to say

there's no street?

in America that should belong to the mob or to, you know, gangs or whatever?

There is no street.

You might say, you know, there's going to be crime, but there is no street that should be off limits and run by anybody else other than the elected representatives.

I mean, first of all, both of us lived near New Haven, Connecticut.

Some streets should be run by the mob, and they're run very well.

If the mob exists.

Well, I'm just, I'm not, I'm not saying the mob exists if it does exist.

I, of course, love the mob.

Huge fans of it.

Great pizza places.

So, but yeah, I agreed.

Like, that should, it should not be overtaking a community.

Like, I went on a vacation this summer, and I was in an area in Florida, and I just remember just walking around thinking, like, it doesn't seem like anything could possibly go wrong in this place.

Like, you know, there are places like that in America.

Turning major cities into

those areas is not probably fully plausible.

However, that should be our goal.

Our goal should be that

people don't walk around terrified, don't walk around scared.

You should be able to, at the very least, Glenn, with approaches that we all know and understand, be able to reduce crime massively in these cities.

It's only caring.

It's only caring and resources to make that happen.

We all know that we can stop crime largely if we put enough resources at it and actually care, throw enough resources at it and actually care.

And that's what it seems to be that Stephen Miller and Trump are talking about here.

You know,

I think that's generally true, but I think

what has really been lost is not caring

as much as common sense.

I mean, you can't, you can care all you want, but if you're not putting common sense into it, if you're not saying, oh, by the way, how do we stop crime?

I don't know.

We punish the criminals.

Yeah.

That's how you stop crime.

That's a better way of phrasing it than throwing resources at it because throwing resources could be some liberal program of hugging each criminal.

That's not what I'm talking about.

You're right.

Because that's what they say.

They say they're the ones that care so much.

We're going to take care of these poor criminals.

And, you know, how dare you judge them?

We're going to make it happy and healthy with hugs.

No.

Right.

But you look at D.

Common sense is required.

Right.

D.C., you put a bunch of,

in that case, you know, troops were, you know, and National Guard and such like that.

You know, you can.

In this case, too.

Right.

And that one, though, they are specifically in Portland talking about

in Memphis, it's being welcomed, as we've talked about by the governor.

In Portland, they're talking about protecting federal buildings, which is under their scope.

But it is

a situation where any city could do this themselves.

You don't need a federal response to hiring a bunch of law enforcement officers to enforce the law.

You don't need that.

You should be able to do it yourself.

And that's what I'm talking about when I say people caring, right?

It's about...

like these cities do the skid row thing, right?

They just kind of like, oh, well, cordon off that area.

I mean, like, Chicago.

You know, I've been to Chicago, you know, several times over the past few years when it's been a big topic of conversation.

And each time I've been there, honestly, I haven't felt unsafe at all in Chicago.

That's largely because I'm not going to any of the areas where all these murders are happening.

Now, you know, I'm sure some of the crime obviously happens in the more tourist-friendly areas, but like, generally speaking, walking around the areas of Chicago where you would go if you're just visiting to, you know, check out a baseball game or see a concert or whatever whatever you might be doing most of that stuff seems completely fine in the city because they've gordoned off all the areas of violence to the place to the places that they don't care about And I, you know, all the people on the left will say, what do you mean we don't care?

We're the only ones who care about those areas.

Do you?

You don't show it very well.

If you actually do care about those people in lower income areas where all the crime is, I don't know, do something about it.

Stop trying to blame Donald Trump, who lives thousands of miles away.

Would you listen to a parent that said, I care about my children, I care deeply about my children, but then was hugging it out with everyone who was hurting your children,

making your children unsafe, maybe killed one of your children, maybe raped one of your children?

No,

you would never assign, oh, that parent really loves his children.

He's enabling all of the abusers.

No, you would say you're part of the abuse.

You're part of the problem.

And those children would be taken from you.

You know, so you can't tell me you love your city.

You're loving, you know, we're just doing this through love.

No, no, you don't.

You know, you can claim that, but your actions do not match the fruit of the word love.

They don't.

You know, in Portland, they're talking about Dave Marcus was out there.

He works for Fox News, and he's out there actually looking at it.

He's like, I can't even believe this is happening and went there to just check it out and see what was happening there.

And he was saying, you know, it's clear the police have been told that they can't do anything.

Oh, in Portland?

In Portland.

They've been told they are not allowed to take on the Antifa members who are taking over the community every night for 100 nights.

Like that is, that is

a centralized decision somewhere where a decision is being made that they don't care about these people.

They don't care about their community.

They don't care.

They'd rather let Antifa run wild.

And it's like, if that's your decision, I mean, first of all, you should pay for it politically.

But secondly, like you're making, you are endangering every member of your community with a decision like that.

And that's the type of stuff that common sense and just caring can solve.

You know, I'm just looking for that story from Fox News.

I think it's the same one you were talking about.

I read it this morning, and it's terrifying.

Yeah.

I mean,

he's there on the streets, and he's watching what's happening.

People, normal people getting surrounded.

One guy drives up in a truck, and they surround his truck and, you know, screaming all kinds of things at him.

And he talks to the guy in the truck and says, why are you even here?

And he's like, I can't take it anymore.

I can't just, we just can't just give up

our city.

Another woman, she had her car surrounded and, you know, they were ready to yank her out of the car.

And she's just a woman just driving down the street.

And they just, just,

they're ready to beat her.

And he helps her get into her car, and she goes away.

And

when he walks back, the police are there.

And they question him.

And they say, what just happened?

What did you just do?

And he's like, are you kidding me?

I did what you guys should have done.

I went over there and helped that woman get back into the car.

And they were like, good, thank you.

What do you mean, good, thank you?

Why aren't you doing it?

One woman had to fill out a form for the police.

They're not going to do anything, but they escorted her out of the scene, made her go like a mile and a half away so she wouldn't cause any trouble with Antifa.

That's unreasonable.

Now, you know, the governor of Portland doesn't want to do anything about it.

Okay.

The mayor and the governor.

Neither of them are interested in having Donald Trump go in.

But just so you know, federal buildings are something else.

You know, you're coming after a federal courthouse.

You're coming after ICE.

You're coming after the FBI.

The United States government has a right to defend that land, and it will, and it should.

But I mean, we are just, I mean, I think today, if you listen to, you know, at least the...

two of the hours today, last hour and this hour of today's podcast, you'll get an understanding of where we are in today's world.

It is

accelerating rapidly.

And

if these things continue at this pace, by 2028, America will be pretty much alone in the world.

And the rest of the world will be begging us to help them with their freedom because it is slipping away quickly, quickly.

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I have to tell you, it's worth spending a couple of minutes on the

sombrero AI video that is causing the left to have a meltdown here.

Cut one, please.

Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.

Nobody likes Democrats anymore.

We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans b.

Not even black people want to vote for us anymore.

Even Latinos hate us.

So we need new voters.

And if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us.

They can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of,

you know, at least for a while until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.

Okay, so that's what Trump put out, and he's just trolling.

Well,

Hakeem Jeffries just cannot handle the video.

Here he is yesterday.

Listen to this.

It was a fake video.

What?

It was a disgusting video.

He wasn't really there.

It was a racist video.

Really?

It was unbecoming of anyone

wanting to be the president of the United States of America.

Oh, no.

Purporting to be.

But, y'all, I ain't scared.

No.

No, he's not scared.

He's free.

He's scared.

Oh, they're going into some sort of.

I ain't scared.

I'm just like you.

What?

All of a sudden, a new accent comes up.

What is that?

Here is Schumer now on the AI video.

Yesterday, the president posted an offensive, deep fake AI video of Leader Jeffries and me.

God.

Stop for a second.

When you put a fake hat on the head of somebody that doesn't move while he's moving his head and a big mustache that doesn't move while the guy is moving.

That's not a deep fake.

That is fake, but it's not a deep fake.

That's not fooling anyone.

I digress.

Go ahead.

Yesterday, the president posted an offensive deep fake AI video of leader Jeffries and me

with sombreros, fake music, impersonating my voice through AI.

It wasn't me.

What?

He didn't really say that.

Which we don't want, the American people don't want.

The president is busy trolling away on the internet like a 10-year-old.

And that's exactly why Americans are going to blame him if the government shuts down.

That's another proof point.

That's another proof point there.

Because of,

yeah.

It's so pathetic.

Their efforts are so pathetic on this.

And you watch it all play out.

First of all,

you have Gavin Newsom, who's doing largely the same stuff, right, like constantly.

And he's being praised by the left for doing it.

Yes, they're childish back and forth.

Uh, you know, is it is what it is, uh, but like, don't overreact.

The other thing, too, is, has there ever, I mean, we've been doing the show a long time, and I don't know if I have an answer to this question.

Has there ever been a, like, a,

a more, like, giant zilch than Hakeem Jeffries?

No.

Like, I, I, I, he is

one of the most powerful people in the world.

No, he's not.

Glenn, he is, he is probably a year away, you know, if history plays out, hopefully not, but a year away from being the Speaker of the House.

Right?

Like, it's one of the most powerful positions in our government.

It's high in the line for the for the, you know, for the presidency.

It's not going to play out that way because nobody wants to vote for a guy in a sobrero.

Anyway,

so here's Donald Trump.

Here's Donald Trump doubling down with another video.

Listen.

It's a disgusting video, and we're going to continue to make clear.

Bigotry will get you nowhere.

We are fighting to protect the health care of the American people in the face of an unprecedented Republican assault.

Now, is that one of the things that

Trump's in a sombrero.

So is that okay?

Yeah, Trump's in a sombrero too.

He's the mariachi band.

I don't know how they cloned him.

This is how evil he is.

He's cloned himself five times so he could be in that mariachi band.

It's just crazy.

I mean,

this is so ridiculous, so ridiculous, and not the stuff that you should be paying attention to.

Listen to today's show as a podcast, and you'll understand why this is not important.