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Well, the government is shut down.

Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh boy.

I'm really.

And somebody called me at home last night.

What are we rat about?

Somebody called from the family and said,

Is it safe to fly tomorrow?

And I'm like,

what?

Why?

What are you hearing?

Government shutting down.

Planes going to fall out of the sky?

No, they're not going to fall out of the sky.

Well, let me just say that.

Today, I'm not sure.

I would try to be someplace that's not under the sky.

Let's just say that, just to be safe.

Be someplace not under the sky because the planes are going to be falling.

And when I say the planes are going to fall out of the sky, I mean more than Boeing planes are going to be falling out of the sky today because it's going to be chaos, complete chaos.

The government is this.

And by the way, you'll probably, you should start taking Mandarin because the Chinese are going to invade because the army is on furlough now because of these damn Republicans.

Oh, wait.

No, hang on just a second.

It's the Democrats.

The Democrats who are being so unbelievably irresponsible.

You know what they always say when the Republicans do this?

They're so irresponsible.

And you're like, wait a minute, no.

This time they're being very, very irresponsible.

The Democrats are,

because the Republicans just would not allow health care to be extended to all illegal aliens.

I actually heard somebody on CNN yesterday

say

all people have a right to health care.

No, I mean, you mean American citizens?

No, all people.

So illegals.

All people of earth should be able to have universal health care oh okay well why don't we just start writing that check for for the chinese too you know

the the poor greeks man they really have

cuba they're having a hard time with their health care system there are a lot of places collapsing we should just write the check for everybody on earth for their health care how does that even make sense

now

the Democrats are in a really precarious situation

because they had acquiesce to the extreme left because their base wants to fight.

And I think literally fight.

But at least in this particular case, it means you can't, you have to, you have to walk out on a deal.

You cannot accept it unless you have universal health care.

And so they said,

no, Republicans, what a surprise.

No, not going to do it.

Actually, it is kind of a surprise.

Wouldn't you say, Stu, it is kind of a surprise that they're not saying yes to even more spending.

Yes, and we can't rule it out quite yet, but it's the fact that they didn't immediately before the shutdown even just agree to whatever they wanted to spend is nice.

Correct, correct.

So,

if I may make a prediction, see where I'm wrong on this.

My prediction of how this thing is going to work is we're going to shut down

because the Republicans didn't want to spend more money and the Democrats wanted to spend a trillion dollars more.

And so, what will happen is we'll shut down, but we'll spend more money and we'll end up paying for it.

And then they'll just sign another continuing resolution and nothing will really be done.

That's a little pessimistic there, Glenn.

I think

it's a little pessimism here.

It only comes from 60 years of watching our government.

Yes.

Although I do think things are a little bit different right now, right?

I think the Republicans are in a place where they have more cards than the Democrats do.

There's a good chance the Democrats wind up getting blamed blamed for this by the American people, not the media, but by the American people.

They don't like shutdowns, even though I'm honestly not that broken up about them.

I'm thrilled.

Yeah.

And then you have the other part of this, which is maybe the

Russell Vaught, you know, Donald Trump.

I think that's real.

By the way, is that how you say his name?

Because I've always thought it was Russ Vaughn.

I hear it both ways, so I don't know.

I'm just going to go back and forth to confuse people.

But yeah, that's they,

in case you don't know what we're talking about here, the

there's a

Russ, he put together this plan over the four years where they were out of power to try to maximize opportunities like this.

And he, you know, there's this long

profile just written in the New York Times about how scary and terrifying he is for those reasons.

But

when you hear Trump talk about, hey, we're just going to fire these people and not bring them back, you know, that is, you know, it's Trump's plan.

It's Trump's idea with Russ's execution behind it.

And so that's the thought here is that maybe you can get some long-term gains out of this.

One of my other favorite nuggets on this, Glenn, is the health care credits that they're looking for, that the Democrats say they want.

They're like, we got to have these.

We can't have a seven-week, which was the proposal by Republicans, seven weeks of just continuing the spending and figuring things out.

So currently, those tax credits are in effect.

They are available right now.

Republicans want to end them.

The interesting part is they don't run out in the seven-week period that Republicans are proposing to increase or to continue the spending.

So they wouldn't go away if everybody just signed on to the Republican plan, which, by the way, I mean, neither one of us particularly like.

It's just increasing spending at these ridiculous levels for another seven weeks.

But these credits that they're so worried about, that they're going to kill all these people and the healthcare is going to go away, don't go away during that time period.

They go away after that.

And they're saying, well, people are going to get notified that they're going away in that period.

And therefore,

we have to shut down the government so that people wouldn't get notifications that they might be going away.

We have to stop it before that.

That's their biggest thing.

You would think that the Democrats would want people to be notified that they're going away because it would help their case.

Right.

Well, I mean,

there's an argument to be made that maybe they do.

But I think a lot of that is just they're making things up as they go along.

Right.

You know,

that doesn't sound like the Democratic Party.

Like Chuck Schumer last time, when he was threatened with evil Russ and his evil plans, said, okay, we're going to fold and we're going to just keep the government going at the current levels.

And this time he's saying the exact opposite.

And he's saying,

because last time his idea was, well, they're going to fire all these people.

This time he's saying, well, they're firing all these people anyway like they just

they just change move the goalposts change the arguments and act as if this all makes sense and so here's what i would like to see donald trump do because i read this morning and i don't know what rag it was but they were saying you know donald trump he's bluffing he's bluffing i i you know no i don't think he is i don't i hope he's not listened to donald trump yesterday on this cut to one if doge is already reducing the federal workforce why is it necessary to link more federal jobs cut to a shutdown?

Well the Democrats want to shut it down so when you shut it down you have to do layoffs so we'd be laying off a lot of people that are going to be very affected and the Democrats, they're going to be Democrats.

As you know we, this country, no country can afford to pay for illegal immigration health care for everybody that comes into the country and that's what they're insisting.

And obviously I have an obligation to not accept that.

That would affect everybody.

You know, when I see what we're doing with AI and all the plants that are opening up in the country, $17 trillion is coming.

And if you compare that to Biden, Biden had,

in four years, less than a trillion.

We have $17 trillion more than that.

I think it's going to be much more than that, David.

By the end of this year, I think it's going to be far over.

That's a record.

It's already a record in eight months.

It's a record by a lot.

And so we're doing well as a country, so the last thing we want to do is shut it down.

A lot of good can come down from shutdowns.

We can get rid of a lot of things that we didn't want.

And they'd be Democrat things, but they want open borders.

They want men playing in women's sports.

They want transgender for everybody.

They never stop.

They don't learn.

We won an election in a landslide.

They just don't learn.

So we have no choice.

I have to do that for the country.

So what I'm hearing him say here over and over again is, yeah, we're just going to shut these things down.

We don't want them.

And it's a permanent thing.

You're going to have to go through reauthorization to get these non-essential programs back.

And, you know, if they're not mandated, he's saying, Russ is planning, to just cut them all.

If it's not mandatory spending, cut it.

I think that is absolutely fantastic.

I mean, I don't know why we haven't done that before.

Now, it's going to go into the court system, et cetera, et cetera.

It's going to be a fight, but that's one I'm willing to die on.

That's a hill I want to take.

Yeah, and of course, you're right.

Every single one of those jobs will have a lawsuit attached to it, and they will get some of them reversed.

There's no question about it.

But that's why you should fire twice the amount of people.

Right.

If they're going to reverse half of them, just fire twice as many.

Yeah.

And I think, you know, partially one of the reasons why the question from the reporter was, hey, you know, hey, if you're doing this with Doge already, how come?

Well, part of it is a lot of the Doge stuff got blocked, right?

A lot of the Doge stuff got blocked by courts and has been a real problem.

So this is the way they think they have a little bit more legal clearance on it.

Glenn, can I give you one trip down memory lane here, though?

This is a fun one.

Fun trip down memory lane.

Let's go back to 2009,

if we could.

Barack Obama, he's doing the State of the Union address.

Oh, my God.

And in the middle of this

great man's address, as he's talking about the wonders of Obamacare, an evil Republican legislator screams out, you lie from the audience.

It's a massive controversy.

A terrible controversy.

But you don't do that.

You don't control that.

You don't call the president of the United States a liar.

Decorum, sir.

Decorum, decorum, decorum.

You can call him a Nazi, but you don't call him a liar.

Okay.

So

he says you lie.

Why does he say you lie?

He says, because Barack Obama is up there on the stage and Barack Obama says, with Obamacare, we're not going to be giving any health care to illegal immigrants you lie you lie that's the controversy everyone says of course every media report is of course this isn't an Obamacare it's a shy how would he even claim such a thing and then

the next president the next Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton puts it

In the middle of her website for running for office.

That's 2016.

It's part of her platform that illegal immigrants will get

care under Obamacare.

Part of her platform, they go from you lie to part of the platform in just one presidential election.

And then

we should note now that it's so shocking that illegal immigrants wouldn't get health care out of Obamacare, we need to shut the government down over it.

That

is how your country works in three easy steps.

That is,

by definition, progressivism.

You move in the direction, but you say, no, it'll never be that.

Then the next president, the next opportunity, you move a little further and you go like, well,

and then the next president, the next opportunity, you're like, of course that's what it is.

I mean, it's just right there.

And then you say, how dare you hurt these poor people by taking away that plan we said didn't exist?

Right.

Oh, it's so funny.

And nobody knows because people are just so stupid.

They don't remember you lie.

They have been ratcheted up into their hatred for the other side.

And they always lie.

They always lie.

They always lie.

They always lie.

You know, like when he stood up and called President Obama a liar.

Yeah, well, no, they weren't lying.

They were telling the truth.

Because they understand how progressivism works.

But you refuse to see, you know, this is my favorite question to ask people is, how did you get there?

How did you get there?

What do you mean?

How did you get to where illegal aliens should?

Because you were against that 10 years ago.

In fact, you said, that's a lie.

That'll never happen.

Okay, so take me to, that's a lie, that will never happen, which you were passionate about because you understood we couldn't afford that.

Tell me the logic that had been introduced to you over the last 10 years that made you move from that's a lie that will never happen how un-American of you to even say we would think that way to how dare you even try to say we shouldn't be paying for that health care help me with the logic because I want to understand my guess is you've just been riding a wave of feelings and propaganda

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So I don't think it's a coincidence that we have Trump RX starting today and the shutdown is a big thing.

It is a direct-to-consumer website expected to launch early next year at trumprx.gov.

It is not socialized medicine, although it is kind of a public partner, private, public-private partnership, which I am not for in any way, shape, or form.

But it is the government just negotiating discounts up to 85% off list prices for Pfizer medications.

And it's a limited scope at this point, but it gives most favored nation status prices because we pay like four times as much as everybody else.

And what is the problem with that?

The rich can afford when you look at the whole world.

We're the rich ones.

The rich don't even mind paying more.

Coming back to haunt you now, isn't it?

Anyway, Pfizer's offering discounts about 50% on primary care and specialty drugs.

It's cash only.

This is for the uninsured and uninsured buyers that cover, again, a narrow set of drugs.

You know, some people are saying it's socialized medicine.

It's not.

It's voluntary and market-based.

However,

it could be the next time.

The next time a president comes in,

it's progress towards this step.

But it doesn't involve government-run hospitals or doctor employment or universal coverage or anything like that.

So

it's not socialized medicine.

Yeah,

it depends on what your definition is, right?

I mean, like, you know, of course it's not, we have not implemented the British system.

No.

Like, you know,

no one's saying that.

I will say, you know, this is the same, you know, it's market-based is what they say about carbon credits.

You know what I mean?

I don't like it.

I don't like it.

I think politically it's a very smart move.

Yes, I agree.

I think for a true free market, I don't like it.

But we're not going to have a free market of medicine.

I mean, we don't have one now.

No, we don't have one now.

I would like to move toward it, though.

I would, too.

And I feel like

a lot of movement the opposite direction.

Yes.

And I will say, too, you know, the drug price thing is a tough one because there are certain drugs that are much more expensive here than in other places, though there are also a lot of drugs that are less expensive here than in other places.

Like our generic system actually outperforms a lot of what the rest of the world does.

So it's a, you know, when you talk about the drugs people actually take as a society, you look at

the numbers are not that much different, but there are certain particularly brand name drugs that are much, much higher priced here.

And I guess that's what he's trying to get under control here.

And it's something he's been focusing on for a while.

You know, this is something that Trump has really tried to focus on for a while and seems to be making some progress into what his plan is there.

Yeah.

So let me switch topics to the fat thing is still trending everywhere today.

That Heg Seth says that our generals shouldn't be fat.

And I love this from the left.

They're like, these generals, man, they were so strong.

They sat sat there they didn't clap for anything anything that is said they didn't clap yet they're not supposed to they're in uniform you dope

you see the supreme court at the last state of the union they didn't clap for anything yeah they're not supposed to

uh so that wasn't restraint that was actually them doing their job But the view just can't understand why we care about fitness and fatness in the military.

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You know,

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So, yesterday, Heg Seth comes out and says, you know, fat generals, you need to lose weight and you need to get in shape.

Everybody has to take the fitness test.

If you're in our military, everybody everybody has to take the fitness test at least once a year.

Okay.

Now,

I have to play the response from the view.

It is hysterical.

I mean, I feel bad for their stupidity.

And I mean that sincerely.

They are so stupid, and yet they're on national television.

I mean, somebody should say, I mean, Simon Cowell should be sent in and go, guys, you're just too stupid to be on national television.

It's not a good look.

I don't know who said that you were smart, but somebody has to tell you the truth.

So listen to their response to Pete Hagseth.

He said he was going to

return to the highest male standard for combat positions because the troops were fat.

I just, I don't understand how that was supposed to be an uplifting message for our military.

He was referring to Colonel Sanders.

It was really a bizarre thing.

He started talking about woke DEI policies.

By the way, there are no gender quotas in the military.

By the way, he fired more than a dozen military leaders, many of them people of color and women.

He fired the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, General Charles Brown Jr., who is African-American.

He fired the first woman to command the Navy, Admiral Lisa Franchetti.

I just, I don't understand the sort of hypocrisy of firing these people,

having all these people meet together and then denigrating them.

Did you look at it?

They look like, they're looking at him like he has two heads.

Well, they didn't applaud the beginning of that.

Yeah.

You just saw the president is Trump, President Trump said, if you want to applaud, you applaud.

If you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room.

Of course, and then you heard the rest.

There goes your rank in your future.

It is such an they don't understand.

They just don't understand the military.

They, you know, it's interesting that they were listing all of the people that Hakeseth fired without giving any context on any of those people.

And they just don't understand why two-thirds of our current active military members are considered overweight and 22% of them are considered obese and how that's a problem.

And I love the fact that they're like, and how is that supposed to be an uplifting message?

It's not supposed to be an uplifting message.

Sometimes the truth is not so uplifting.

Sometimes the truth sucks a lot, but it sets you free.

Sometimes the truth has to be said.

You're fat.

and i'm sorry if you're out on the battlefield and you can't pick up the member of your team that has just been shot and wounded and carrying them back yourself you're of no help if you're like

i am so out of breath hang on can we stop shooting for just a second i gotta you gotta be in shape do you want a fat firefighter no i don't I have nothing against fat people.

I just want to know that if, because I'm out of shape and I'm not a firefighter, but if I'm in a building and I'm trapped and my daughter or me or somebody else is fighting the fire and they are my lifeline to get out of the building, I want to make sure they can pick my daughter up and throw her over the shoulder.

Pick me up.

You know, Secret Service, I don't know if you've noticed this, Secret Service, they're not fat.

You know why?

It's a requirement that they, all of my detail, anybody on my security team, it is a requirement, a requirement that they can pick me up and throw me over their shoulder and get out of a room.

That's that's their job.

So, yeah, you have some physical fitness standards for the military or people in that position, you know, and she's like, and I'm surprised because this is, I mean, the U.S.

military is the greatest fighting force in the world.

Since when are you a fan of the military?

And tell me, tell me how great our military has done, you know, in the last five years.

Afghanistan comes to mind, comes leaping out, which, by the way, is some of the people that he fired because of that.

She said, Behar says there's an ulterior motive for all of this crazy stuff.

And Sarah Haynes says, well, you know what?

This is why there's a recruiting lull.

What?

What?

This is why they can't get people to sign up for the military.

No, that's under the last administration where everybody, you know, sign up if you want to wear a dress.

No, I don't want to wear a dress.

I, I would, if I want to protect my country, I want to be surrounded by fighters.

I want to be surrounded by people who are committed to the job and can get the job done.

And there's nothing wrong.

When he said, I have the highest male standards, he wasn't saying there's no women in the military.

He's saying you have to perform as well as a man.

You have to be able to throw that man over your shoulder and go.

If you can do that, fine.

That's what he was talking about, but they don't really,

you know, and then they're saying

the cost of bringing these guys in and having them sit in a room.

Can you imagine that you're now concerned about the cost?

And all they did just tell him to go, you know, shave and then go back to hazing people.

Wait a minute, hazing.

I thought you were a fan of all these generals.

What are you talking about?

The stupidity and the hypocrisy is just hysterical, just hysterical.

While we're here on that, I just have to point out what Hillary Clinton said

about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

She was on Morning Joe.

And she was asking, you know, are we still headed for a more perfect union?

I think we're on pause right now.

I think people are uncertain.

People are scared about what's going on in our country.

The idea that we, the people, that all men and women are created equal, that seems to be in the crosshairs on those on the right who want to turn the clock back on progress that is made.

Wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

No, we are equal.

We're all to be judged equal.

We're all to fall under the law equally.

Law is supposed to be, justice is supposed to be blind.

You have reversed all of that.

We're just trying to set blind justice back into place.

No,

what Trump is trying to do is turn the clock back on the progress, writing out huge chunks of our history, slavery, suffrage, anything inconvenient.

No, no, I'm not trying to rewrite that.

We're trying to have balance on that.

We're trying to say we're more than just that.

And then she goes on about how glorious our history really is.

Really?

Do you believe that?

Because I not heard that from you anyway.

Then she said, so, you know, what I think makes us so special as a country, the idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, you know, let's say it.

Oh, and somebody says, I don't know, let's just say it.

You know, trouble is coming.

Okay.

So, this is turning the clock back to a world that never was,

meaning,

let's just say it,

quote, white men of a certain persuasion.

What does that mean, Stu?

White men of a certain persuasion.

White, straight, Christian males.

No, no, no, no, no.

Just don't go any too far.

That just means white men who are straight.

Okay.

White men of a certain persuasion.

Comma.

A certain religion.

Okay.

What religion would that be?

Christian, right?

Christian.

A certain point of view.

What do you think that point of view might be?

Evil conservative.

Evil conservative.

It's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for.

And we were on that path imperfectly.

Lots of bumps on the way, but I agree with you.

We're on the right trajectory.

So, wait a minute.

That first of all, I just have to just ask: who is the one twisting history when you say we're going back to a history that never was

a country run

by straight white men who were constitutionally conservative and Christian.

That's a world that never was?

I don't even know how you get there.

What kind of common core math do you have?

Show me how you got there.

And it defeats all the terrible things.

Like, if that never was, then why are you saying it's so bad all the time, right?

Like

exactly right.

Is slavery real?

Can I point out one other thing on this, Glenn, which I think is interesting

in that what Trump is doing, what the conservatives are doing, what you're doing with your museum, has nothing to do with what she's describing there, like getting rid of all of the bad history and only promoting the good things and saying how wonderful

our country is, right?

Like, you know, of course, we will acknowledge when things are good, but we also acknowledge when things are bad, and it's important to understand all that history.

But set aside our motivation and whether we're actually doing this or not.

It would be understandable for a nation to

brush some of their dark spots in their history under the carpet.

Lots of countries do this.

They do it all the time.

And the motivation for that is pretty clear, right?

You want the people of your country to believe your nation is great.

You want them to believe the best about their country.

You want them to feel positively about their country.

So

while I don't want to do that, I understand the motivation of doing it.

I don't understand the motivation of what they want because what they want is to only highlight the bad things we've done in our history forget the idea of whether you agree with conservatives or not their motivation think of things like crt right where you where you look at history and basically blame the country for being a horrible group of racists that do terrible things all the time structural racism built into everything

point turning your country into a nation that looks to its own people to be terrible, terrible, to be an awful place that has achieved nothing, that has only destroyed.

I understand the motivation of making your country look better than it actually was.

What would the motivation be to make it look worse than it actually was?

Wow.

And I think you've answered this before.

Some might, some might say, how is that supposed to be an uplifting message?

Oh, no, wait.

That was the view on the Pentagon when they were talking about saying the truth about them being fat.

There are things that you have to say, but you have to balance them.

The only reason why you would do it the way they want to is you want to destroy the

belief in the nation.

And I want both sides told.

I want the balance told.

And I want exactly what Hillary Clinton tried to get away with there in saying, you know, we're an imperfect nation.

Yeah, we are.

I agree 100%.

We are are in our constitution to form a more perfect union.

That's how you do it.

Exactly how Stu described is how you do it.

Not what they're doing, but by saying, look, we have warts and all.

Let's look at those things, put them in perspective.

But we're good people.

We're good people.

But apparently we're not.

Randy Weingarten, please play cut seven of the head of the teachers union and what she's doing.

There is a reason why in Norway, when the Nazis took over Norway, that's why I'm wearing this paperclip.

I wear two things now.

The American flag, nobody can take patriotism away from me, and a paperclip.

What did the teachers in Norway do when

there was the Nazi occupation?

They started wearing paperclips.

Good.

Good for them.

What?

So when I found out she was wearing a paperclip, you know,

for the Nazis, I thought, well, you know, you might have missed that time period in Norway,

you know, that Nazis aren't there in Norway.

And then I realized, oh, no, she's talking about here.

And I thought, oh, okay.

So maybe she's regarding, maybe she's forgetting Operation Paperclip,

which was what the Americans did.

Operation paperclip is when the progressives went and said, hey, these doctors, these scientists, these educators, yeah, they're Nazis.

They were involved in really bad atrocities, but let's bring them into the fold.

Let's have them come here to America and fold them into our health care system.

Let's fold them into our education system.

Let's fold them into our sciences.

That was called Operation Paperclip.

And so when I think of that, because when I think of the teachers' unions right now and Randy Weingarten, I'm reminded that the California Teachers Union in 2008

changed one of their long, longstanding rules.

And that is, if you were ever a part of or associated with any organization that tried to overthrow the United States government or you were a communist,

you couldn't teach.

And in California in 2008, as soon as Barack Obama, Randy Weingarten

led the charge to make sure those who had been part of organizations trying to overthrow the United States government could teach our children.

So

I'm guessing she means the paperclip, you know, the way the Americans meant Operation Payperclip, I'm sure, which I just have to disagree with you on that, Randy.

I just don't think we should have revolutionary, communist,

Marxist, or fascist like Nazis.

I just don't think we should have them in our government, and that's what we're fighting for.

But you keep wanting to push them in, and I have to disagree with you on that.

But thank you for reminding me of Operation Paperclip, Randy Weingarten.

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Hello, Eric.

How are you?

Glenn, it's great to be on.

It's great to have you.

Great to have you.

You know, your book, what your family has gone through

is just the radically souped up version of what I think a lot of people feel they have gone through in their life.

But, man,

they have tried to kill you guys.

They have tried to put you in jail.

They've tried to destroy you every single step of the way.

Tell me about the motivation for putting that all down on paper.

Yeah, Lennon, I think that's right.

It went to Amazon number one almost instantly under siege, and it's been incredible.

But I came up with a, you're right, I mean, I was a guy who didn't have any constitutional protections.

I wasn't in government.

So guess who they came after?

They came after me.

I was the most appended person in American history, all because I ran the Trump organization, which was, you know, effectively what my father spent his entire life doing.

And they wanted to see us taken down.

They wanted to see us destroyed.

I mean, look what they did, right?

It was between two impeachments.

They raided our home.

They silenced us.

They gag ordered us.

There's more gag orders than I can possibly count.

They took us off of Twitter.

They took us off of Facebook.

They took us off of Instagram.

They made up the phony dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton.

They made up Russia gate.

Glenn, I was the guy who was getting the call from the FBI saying, you know, Eric, I hear you have secret servers communicating with the Kremlin in the basement of Trump Tower.

I mean,

give me a break.

They tried to take out our Supreme Court justices.

I mean, they did everything.

They weaponized the media.

They weaponized the DOJ.

They weaponized the FBI.

They charged my father ninety-one times, ninety-one criminal accounts.

They fined the Trump organization almost $600 million for not doing a damn thing wrong.

And all of this stuff has been overturned.

But they wanted to see us non-existent.

They wanted to see our family broken.

They wanted to see my father in jail.

They probably wanted to see me in jail.

And then I said on Sean Hannity one night, Sean, they've done all of this to us.

They put us under siege.

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to kill my father.

And then you saw what happened at Butler.

And then you saw what happened eight weeks later at Trump International in West Palm.

You saw what just happened to Charlie.

I mean, I published this book literally three days before Charlie Kirk's assassination.

I mean, you want to talk about another time they tried to put our movement under siege?

They've done it to you.

They've done it to every single one of your listeners.

They've debanked us.

They've deplatformed us.

And the story had to be told from a first-person perspective who effectively dealt with all of it.

And the greatest part of the whole story is we won.

We won and we're saving the country right now.

So, Eric,

how do you deal with?

I just had a conversation with somebody I think is really, really smart, doesn't agree with me politically, but very well educated, very smart, and a reasonable person.

And he immediately brought up the weaponization of our government with the DOJ and James Comey.

And I said, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, blood is shooting out of my eyes right now.

Hang on, the weaponization of our government with the DOJ and James Comey.

And I had to explain to him that your dad didn't say you're fired if you don't go get him.

Your father said, make a decision.

Make a decision.

Don't let the statute of limitations go up.

And it went through a grand jury process.

Two out of the three charges were valid, and so you prosecute.

That's different than what you guys.

Can you compare James Comey and what's happening there to

what was done with you guys?

Well, I'll give you a little insight baseball.

So I was the guy that got the call when they were raiding Mar-a-Lago, right?

Obviously, I run all our commercial properties and our entire portfolio, everything in the Trump organization.

So, I get a call from one of my team members.

The FBI is here with a search warrant.

And I go, Excuse me?

What do you mean?

We have the greatest relationship with all law enforcement.

We love law enforcement.

No, they're coming in.

They have a search warrant to raid Mar-a-Lago right now.

And I go, You must be kidding me.

And I go, Why?

Well, they're saying that the National Archives asked the FBI to raid Mar-a-Lago.

I go, you mean like a glorified public library?

You know, you have have 30 FBI agents there with machine guns because NARA, you know, asked for the raid.

I went on Fox News that night.

I think it was Jesse Waters or somebody.

I went on Fox News that night.

I go, give me a break.

Like, I wasn't born yesterday.

Like, you don't, you don't raid Mar-a-Lago, the former president's home, and very likely the future president again, because my father was doing great.

You don't raid that home based on the national archives.

Like, you better believe Biden was behind this.

And sure enough, you know, 18 months later, it comes out that Biden was behind it.

Merrick Harland was 100% behind it, and they were the ones that authorized it.

And the weaponization is unlike anything I'd ever seen.

I mean, Bland, we were a family that's never gotten so much as a speeding ticket ever in our lives, and we lived a pretty fast life in terms of business and life until my father decided that he was looking to run again in 2024, in which case they indicted him 34 times for $130,000 payment that he didn't even make.

I mean,

people who were sitting in the courtrooms couldn't even possibly believe it.

Again, we've had every single one of them overturned, but when I hear them talking about James Comey, who clearly, I mean, it very much looked like to me, lied to, you know, to Ted Cruz in that congressional area in that testimony that day.

I mean, give me a break.

I mean, these guys, I probably spent $400 million

defending ourselves from hoaxes.

I mean, the Russia hoax, we had disproved to the FBI day one, we didn't have secret servers.

There are no servers in the basement of Trump Tower because basements flood.

You don't put, you know, like computers 101.

You don't put servers in basements, right?

You know, we didn't know anybody in Russia.

They knew this, and they let this sham get perpetrated for three years so that one greedy woman could possibly get, you know, two more votes.

And then, when she lost in an embarrassing fashion to people who didn't know what a damn delegate was, i.e., our family, because we had never been in politics before,

you know, they needed some way to justify her embarrassing performance.

They took your father off the ballot in Maine.

They tried to take him off in Colorado.

That, to me, is the weaponization of the political system

by going after you guys for the servers, by changing

documents, literally FBI changing documents to go after people in your organization on the Russiagate stuff,

changing the documents for a FISA court.

That's true weaponization.

Is there a chance that the Comey thing is going to bleed into a larger prosecution?

Because I've been watching this, Eric, I've been watching this from the beginning.

I was watching this when I was not for your president, your father being president in 2016, saying, wait a minute, this isn't right.

What is this?

This isn't right.

It is so clear that this now was, I mean, the evidence is all there, that this was

a plan from the beginning that is quite honestly, I believe, still going on.

Is there a chance?

Do you know if the grand conspiracy thing is going to happen?

Listen, I hope it does, right?

I'm not in government, but it's the entire thesis of the book.

I dealt with this more than anybody in the country for a 10-year period of time.

They wanted us gone.

I mean, Glenn, they were planting documents in Mar-a-Lago in my father's office.

They were planting top-secret folders on the carpet of my father's office.

They admitted that to Judge Cannon, that they literally brought in top-secret folders and they deleted photo shoots

on my father's office floor.

The whole thing was contrived.

The whole thing was a setup.

The Russia thing was a scam.

The dirty dossier that said that my father was doing horrible things, the most unthinkable things.

It was a sham.

The impeachment number one was a sham.

The impeachment number two was a sham.

To have seven judges in Colorado just delete my father's name from a ballot was a sham.

The fact that, you know, again, a guy who worked very hard, has never crossed any line in his life, became the most subpoenaed person in American history, me,

it was a sham.

I mean, you know, I didn't have a laptop from hell.

I wasn't Hunter Biden.

I wasn't doing illicit drugs.

I wasn't, you know, partaking in prostitution.

I didn't have racy photos all over my, you know, and I sure as hell wasn't doing illegal business deals all over the world with every shady country, as he very much seemed to be doing.

And yet they came after us relentlessly.

So do I think that that criminality has to be paid for in some way?

I do.

And I find it so ironic when you see Chuck Schumer up there and Jake Tapper, I'm not sure if you saw him the other day.

This is the weaponization of the government that is trying to give me a break.

I've taken more arrows than anybody could possibly take and still be standing.

And my father, he's taken unlimited arrows all in defense of this nation that we love.

And, you know, it's,

I mean, it's true irony and it's true projection.

Let me take 10 seconds for station ID, and then I want to talk to you about:

has there ever been a time when you guys have said,

enough?

Back in 10 seconds.

So

I don't know.

I mean, I am amazed at your family.

I'm amazed at your father.

The things that you guys have put up with, the things that you have come through.

And at some point, did anyone in the family say, Dad, please?

I mean, we want grandpa to be around.

Stop, please.

Did that ever happen?

You know what?

It's kind of funny.

I think that's exactly what they thought was going to happen.

I think they thought that they could take this kind of New York billionaire and make his life so uncomfortable that he would want to go back to Palm Beach, Florida, play golf, hang out with his grandkids, fly around on Trump Force One, live in Mar-a-Lago, live a great life, right?

And there's no question that was their calculus.

How do we make fun of him?

How do we silence him?

How do we bankrupt him?

How do we go after his family?

How do we raid his home?

How do we indict him?

How do we break up his business?

How do we strip the Trump name off of every building in New York City?

I mean, those are all the things that I dealt with.

And, you know, I think they wholly misunderstood him.

And, you know,

maybe it's like a masochistic type quality, but like the harder they hit him and the harder they hit us, the more resilient we were.

I was in those courtrooms, Len, with my father every single day.

When they turned around in New York and read off 34 felony, bogus felony counts

with a corrupt judge.

And you know a lot about that trial.

My father stood around, you know, turned around, you know, shook my hand.

We left the courthouse.

We did a press conference.

I'm now speaking on the front stairs of those, those, you know, that courthouse every single day to the press.

Remember, my father was gagged.

And then we went down and we did a big fundraiser.

I mean, we literally left a courthouse after having 34 felony indictments and went to a political fundraiser.

I mean, the man never stopped.

He was the energizer bunny in a red tie wearing a suit on steroids.

And the harder they hit him, the harder he worked, the harder he fought back.

But beyond that, I think the more the American people realized this whole thing was a sham.

I mean, there's only so many times you can cry wolf before everybody realizes it's nonsense.

And they cried wolf of Russia and everybody saw that.

And they cried wolf with the impeachments and everybody saw that.

And people fundamentally started distrusting the mainstream media in this country.

And independent voices like yours all of a sudden became the most powerful

we've ever seen in the nation's history.

And

all of a sudden, this whole thing turned around where people started realizing, hey, the harder they hit this guy, the more I like him because this is the system.

This is the corruption at work.

And

listen, obviously it worked because my father won the popular vote.

He won every single swing state.

He won 11 counties in California that had never been run by a Republican.

In 37 years, no Republicans won Miami-Dade County.

We won it by 11 points.

And every single state in the country, all 50 states, tacked Waywright.

And so clearly their games didn't work, but that's what they wanted.

They wanted to make his life so damn uncomfortable.

that he would bow out of the race and say, you know what, let's just go live my lorry years at Mar-a-Lago,

living out the American dream as an ex-president.

And they wholly underestimated the man.

But you,

the whole family was like that?

I mean, everybody in the family, I mean, I don't say this as, I mean, you guys are amazing.

Even if you would have said, Dad, stop it, please, not for us, for you, stop it.

It's not a sign of weakness.

I just am amazed that no one in the family ever

just sat down and said.

Glenn, at that point, I think we were up to our eyeballs.

Meaning, you know, they had us in every, you know,

I had 100 depositions.

I had 100 subpoenas on my desk.

They were raiding our homes.

They were trying everything they possibly could to take us out, to bankrupt us.

You had Letitia James in New York, the corruption that was that case that I just had overturned five to zero.

you know, by the appellate courts in New York, who was an absolute sham with a sham judge.

You had the Alvin Bragg nonsense.

You had the Fannie Willis nonsense with her boyfriend in Georgia.

You had the Jack Smith as he plants documents at Mar-a-Lago and ransacks Melania's closet and Barron's room and our home.

At this point, we were neck deep in it.

I mean, we had no other choice.

I mean, if we would have given up then, you know, we would have been dead.

They would have taken us out.

And there was one point, and I talked about it in the book, where my father looks at me coming out of that courtroom and he says, you know, honey, I don't know how, but we're going to win.

And I said, listen, we either win or we're all going to be in jail because that's exactly what these corrupt people will do to us.

And again, it's a great irony that I find in

the way the

Democrats are treating the Comey indictment this week.

They would have put us all in jail and had us rot there for eternity.

Oh, yeah.

You know, had we had we not have pulled it off.

That was their exact intent.

And they had weaponized the entire system in order to make that happen.

So my wife and I just

moved to Florida, and we live near the Trump National Golf Course.

We were driving by.

And I thought, everything this family has done, everything this brand has gone through,

I think it's a more powerful brand now than ever before.

And part of it is the way you guys have dealt with the,

you know, just weathered every storm.

But also, I think your dad, I've had a lot of respect for your dad as a builder.

And, you know, I watched him build buildings in New York.

And honestly, Eric, I really thought, because he could build things twice as fast as anybody else in New York.

And I'm like, how does this guy not have mob connections?

How do you do business without the mob and nothing clean, clean, clean?

So I don't know how he does what he does.

He's just a machine.

But I feel like everything he has done

in a strange, in a strange

change of topic here,

I think he found the golf course

and the golf resorts are like that's, I think he's, I think he's the best at that in the world now.

Yeah.

Well, thank you, by the way.

And that's almost a great compliment to me because I've done every single one of them with him.

And, you know, I bought most of those properties and developed every single one around the world.

And we're really good at it.

And, you know, it's really funny when I, you know, when he's talking about Gaza the other day and he goes, you know, the potential for this place, what I could make this place into would be so incredible.

And then the Democrats Democrats come out, oh, ha ha, what do you know about building, right?

It's like, it's like when AOC came after Elon Musk, you know, oh, ha ha, Elon Musk, like the least qualified person to run the FAA.

I'm sitting there saying, this guy is catching rockets with copsticks.

Like, you might not want to, you know, belittle him.

He's, he's got, you know, about 4,000 times the IQ of you, AOC, but, you know, and they're trying to do the same thing to my father.

I mean, there's no one that, there's no one that's a better builder.

And I have his genetics.

I mean, he'll, he'll tell you that the two of us are like two peas in a pot with that.

That's what I do.

And by the way, Blan, I got the library approved yesterday.

It's going to be in Miami, Florida, and it's spectacular.

So we just got the greatest site in Florida, and I'm going to be building that.

And I promise you, it's not going to look like the Barack Hussein Obama presidential library in Chicago that looks like a jailhouse.

They're literally going around neighborhoods in Chicago.

They're like, what does that building look like?

And everybody's like, man,

it looks like a jail.

It's going to be a spectacular building.

But no, I think my father will, now, 10 years ago, I would have said what he would have wanted on his tombstone was the greatest developer, the greatest builder.

you know i think today it's it's a man who literally not only inspired a nation but opened the eyes of the entire nation to how we were getting ripped off um the flaws of government and how much better we could be running this country which he's doing right now

well i've never seen anything like it um you know when he said hey i'm you know i'm going to be the greatest president I thought, well, that's, that's, you know, I'm a historian.

I know history.

That's a pretty high standard.

I, I told him myself, I think you are, I think you're in the Abraham Lincoln.

You keep going.

You're in the Abraham Lincoln, George Washington kind of territory.

And it may take a hundred years for people to realize that.

But I've never seen anything like it.

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Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

We're with Eric Trump,

the number one selling book now on Amazon is Under Siege.

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Eric,

I want to just ask you

to tell me the story of

the day your dad was shot.

So, Glenn, I was in New York.

I had my kids on my lap.

I was watching.

Everybody remembers that that was a rally.

Butler was the rally that, you know, all the major, and I knew it wasn't going to be the case, but all the major news stations thought he was going to be announcing who his VP candidate was because that was 48 hours before at the RNC.

And so I was sitting there.

I had my kids in my lap.

I was working on email.

My laptop was on my lap.

And I heard the shots.

And, you know, I don't get into this too often publicly, but I spent a lot of time, pretty much my entire life, has been competitive shooting sports.

I mean, I instantly knew what the sounds were, and I mean, my jaw just dropped, you know, and I looked up and obviously, you know, saw kind of the rest unfold.

And, and, uh, you know, Laura grabbed my two kids and kind of, you know, whisked them out of the room.

And, you know, I'm sitting there, I stood up, my face is probably, you know, two inches in front of the TV, and I'm just seeing if I can, you know, see if he had any, you know, chest wounds.

And he was wearing, obviously, a dark suit, right?

So you couldn't tell if he was bleeding from the abdomen or, you know, if they had hit him where somebody would traditionally shoot, right?

And, and, and obviously I saw him come up with blood on his hands.

And I knew every single one of the agents on that stage

extremely well.

I knew every single person on that stage beyond well.

The female had been, you know, who's kind of famous in that picture, had been with Laura and I for three years.

I knew her, and she's a wonderful person.

I knew the two agents behind him, and obviously Sean, who was his detail leader.

I knew him incredibly well.

And,

you know,

it's a moment that I'll never quite forget.

I don't think any of us will.

And then

we see a rerun of this with Charlie Kirk.

The day could have ended dramatically different for your father.

And it just seems like there's an evil that has just been unleashed in our society.

Yeah, there's no question about it.

And listen, I'm still pissed off.

Again, I kind of mentioned the fact that, you know, the shooting sports have been

one of my biggest passions my entire life.

I know that world as well as anyone.

And, you know, the fact that somebody could get on a roof at 130 yards with a you know, modern rifle with modern optics is just unthinkable to me.

I mean, that's a, that's a chip shot.

My, my seven-year-old son will make that shot every single time.

And, you know, it just, it kind of, you know, it baffles me.

The other thing that baffles me is, you know, we know nothing.

I mean, listen, somehow the FBI was able to get into every single protester's phone who went into the Capitol on January 6th.

Every grandmother who walked in that building that had an iPhone, who was taking a selfie, it seemed like they busted through on all those phones.

Yeah, we don't know a damn thing about the shooter at Butler.

We were lied to by the Secret Service Director.

And by the way, that's an agency I adore.

I adore the people in that agency.

But we were lied to by Cheadle, who said that they couldn't put people on that roof because it was too much of a slope.

And it'd be a break.

You had old congressmen walking across it

three days later.

It was just a lie.

And the slope that the counter snipers were on was substantially

a greater pitched roof than that roof.

But we know nothing about these people.

And as a son, I'm I'm probably the closest person to my father's life.

I remain wholly unsatisfied with the answers that we've given.

And I think this country is as well.

So your dad says that he feels confident.

How do we solve this?

How do we square this?

Because I don't feel confident.

I really don't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Listen, I think he's playing with a different calculus than you and I play with, right?

I mean, you know, there's probably national security concerns, you know, buried in there.

I very much think there are.

And, you know, I think he's the guy that has to heal a nation.

And, you know, I think he's been incredibly graceful despite what happened.

I think that's much harder for a son to do.

I'm not being graceful.

130 yards with a modern rifle is an absolute chip shot.

That's Tiger Woods.

That's Tiger Woods missing a four-inch putt.

It almost never does.

When you see the flag fold up right above his head like a perfect angel,

and you see him turn his head at the last minute,

I think a lot of people became spiritual that day.

A lot of people who weren't spiritual probably became spiritual that day.

And there's no question that something was protecting him and somebody was protecting him and looking down on him that day.

But it's just it was an unthinkable day that I'll never forget.

And, you know, then, you know, fast forward eight weeks.

And, you know, my best friend was actually the one that arrested the guy who tried to shoot my father at the golf course.

He and I were together.

We were north on 95 in Florida.

And we were driving south together.

And I drove right by the shooter that's now in court in Florida as he had his hands out the window with my best friend arresting him, who was Palm Beach County SWAT officer.

And I don't think I've ever told that story either.

I talked about it in the book, but it's just

amazing how the world works.

And it's kind of very few degrees of separation.

Are they done with you guys yet?

I mean, has your family gotten back to normal at all?

Are they done with us?

No, because that's their system.

That's the only playbook they know.

They can't win on policy, Lenn, you know, and you know that.

You know, when

you have an entire political party in the United States that's advocating for, you know, female, you know, men my height, you know, six foot five, you know, weighing 215 to swim in female collegiate sports, right?

And

when you see a government shutdown right now, you know, because they want to give every illegal immigrant who came into this country illegally health care while they let our bridges and roads and everything else fall apart.

I mean, they're on the wrong side of every single one of these issues.

And they've lost the narrative, right?

And,

as we learned from Charlie Kirk and as we learned clearly from my father with Butler,

when you lose the narrative, these people resort to violence, right?

I mean, they'll call us fascists, yet they're the ones that are dressing up in black and standing on top of rooftops with sniper rifles, shooting over college kids who are engaging in free speech.

Yet we're the party of the fascists.

So

do I think it's over toward us?

I hate to say this.

It breaks my heart to say this because of what we've been through, which is exactly what the book Under Siege is about, including the thousand battles that were never on the front page of the New York Times.

But no,

I think they've become beyond desperate, and I don't think it's over, and that pains me to say.

Let me switch subjects.

You have said Bitcoin you expected to be a million dollars.

Now,

I could predict that because of the out-of-control spending in Washington, that gold is going to be very expensive in Bitcoin too.

Why do you think Bitcoin is going to be a million dollars?

So I found cryptocurrency when they debanked us.

I had Capital One send me a letter in the middle of the night.

They'd stripped 300 of our bank accounts and we had never done a damn thing wrong, only because we wore a hat that said make America great again.

But I found cryptocurrency and there is nothing that traditional, and listen, I'm a traditional finance guy.

There's no one that knows more about it than me.

It's what I do every single day.

I'm not a government guy.

I'm a finance guy.

I'm a real estate guy.

There is nothing that traditional finance is doing well.

It's slow.

It's antiquated.

It's unfair to the average person, unless you have a lot of zeros behind your name, in which case you have a great competitive advantage and maybe become more fair.

But, right?

I mean,

why is it every week, Glenn, I'm waiting at Friday afternoon for a wire to hit our bank account or us to release a wire.

And if it doesn't get out by 4.59, congratulations.

Somebody will see that money on Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning.

We have a traditional finance system that's broken.

It's slow.

It's costly.

You can sit there at midnight on a Saturday while having a glass of wine with your wife and send $100 million in Bitcoin to somebody on the opposite side of the world, have transaction fees that are practically nothing, and it arrive in their wallet two seconds later.

When Laura and I went, we bought a house in Florida, under my father, it was like 2% interest rates.

You'd be a schmuck not to finance it.

So we went and we got a mortgage on our house, right?

It took my bank that I had banked with for 25 years, 120 days to

do a know-your customer on me, somebody who was clearly qualified to buy the house, who go to, you know, and you're sitting there saying, what are these people in these ivory towers in every single city in the country doing?

It doesn't make any sense.

If you look at Bitcoin, and I just started a company called American Bitcoin, we just went public on the NASDAQ last week.

It is unbelievable.

I mean, we're mining Bitcoin using American energy out of West Texas at literally 50 cents on the dollar to what Bitcoin, you know, Bitcoin's about $115,000 right now, $116,000.

You know, we're mining it for about 50 cents on the dollar to that and obviously accumulating it.

I think it's going to be the greatest Bitcoin company in the country.

But Bitcoin's been the number one asset over the last decade.

I mean, year over year, it's compounded by about 70%.

There's no asset on earth that has been doing as well.

And people are fearful of government spending.

Everyone around the world, let's just take people outside the United States of America.

You know, if you live in Zimbabwe, where do you put your money, right?

I mean, take a country that has 1,000% inflation year over year.

You get your paycheck, and you may as well just burn it because the money is worthless.

Guess what?

People want to be in Bitcoin.

People don't want to be in the Euro.

People don't want to be in the Asian currencies.

People don't want to be in the South American currencies.

People want to be in something that's global, that's 24-7,

that's protected by unthinkable amounts of energy, that's immediately liquid.

And certainly for what I do, which is hard assets, real estate, we have one of the great real estate companies in the world.

I think Bitcoin is the greatest hedge against hard assets

of any asset anywhere.

And so I fully believe Bitcoin is going to be be over a million dollars.

I was telling everybody to buy Bitcoin when it was $45,000, $40,000.

And people come up to me all the time saying, man, you call that one right.

And this was a year ago.

This was a year and a half ago.

But I'm really proud of American Bitcoin and

being just listed on the NASDAQ and

just amazing company.

Can I ask you this?

Let me take your critics.

The criticism is lots of money, hard to track.

there's some scams in the Bitcoin industry.

It's just not, you know, parts of it are just kind of murky.

Why would you get into this?

And it just feels like you have to be so, and you are, but you have to be so buttoned up so nothing can come after you guys.

Why Bitcoin?

Why would you go into it?

I would actually say the exact opposite.

I would say that cryptocurrency as a whole is exponentially more transparent than the TradFi system and traditional finance.

There's no question about it.

Everything's done on ledger.

Everything is done using smart contracts.

I mean, Glenn, if the traditional finance system was good, they wouldn't have just canceled 300 bank accounts in the middle of the night for my father, myself, our entire company, a company who ran golf courses, who ran hotels, who wasn't involved in...

Right.

I mean, they canceled us in the middle of the night because they didn't like somebody who wore a red hat.

They didn't like their political party.

Every single person listening to us right now on your station i would say virtually every single one has had a horrible horrible experience with financial institutions they've been debanked they've been deplatformed they've been censored right i mean is it okay that that that some you know young kid or some executive in a in a tower in new york is is making the decision that some camp company can't have a bank account because they make a spring and that spring goes in a fishing reel and that fishing reel is sold at bass pro shops and bass pro shops sells duck hunting ammo and therefore they become a restricted party That was happening to half of your listeners.

That was happening to me.

And cryptocurrency will replace traditional finance.

There's no question about it.

There's trillions of dollars moving into it every single year.

It's growing faster than the internet.

It's faster.

It's cheaper.

It's exponentially more transparent.

And it gives people financial freedom that they never had before.

Eric, it's always good to talk to you.

My best to your wife and your family.

And thank you for being under siege and never never blinking.

We really appreciate it.

Thank you.

Yeah, it's great to be on the web.

You bet.

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Have them read that book.

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I just read something of an experience somebody just had, and I've had that exact experience, and

I want you to understand it because it's real.

And we'll talk about that here coming up in just a second.

And what else have we missed yet, Stu, that we have to talk about before we

close the show today?

Well,

we still have the, of course, we did hit the shutdown, which is a big thing.

We didn't hit, one thing we didn't hit that's just kind of fun is the massive drop in ratings for Jimmy Kimmel

after

his big show where he took on the government.

Now, as you remember, Glenn, this is the most serious government-sponsored attack on free speech in our nation's history.

And that was, of course, the four-day paid suspension of a late-night host that no one watched.

But then people watched him for a night.

And then 73% less people started watching him again.

So we're on the track back to where we were before all of this started, which is, of course, where it should be.

In a pathetic dungeon of giant irrelevance.

I mean, the nice thing is, Stu, is

he's still making millions and millions of dollars

for work that nobody is noticing.

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Hey, I want to share what I think is a miracle that is happening right in front of our eyes.

There is a story from history that

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And it always plays a role in my head.

And I just saw another example of it.

And I want to share that with you here in just a second.

And

I may add a personal note to it, a story that has happened to me, and I don't believe I've ever shared before.

Because it's deeply personal, but I want you to know this is real.

What I'm about to share with you is absolutely real.

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I've been here.

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I want to tell you about Lisa Louise.

Lisa Louise is the daughter of Craig Hayden.

Craig Hayden is one of the men that was killed on Sunday at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Michigan.

She wrote a letter that I read this morning

that is absolutely

incredible.

Before I give you that,

I want to tell you what this LDS community has done

for the shooter's family.

I saw this tweet yesterday.

This morning, with our burned-down church still smoldering and four saints murdered, maybe more,

members of the Church of Jesus Christ raised $60,000

for the shooter's wife and children.

Most donations are anonymous.

So I started reading

the notes in this.

In this world you shall have tribulations, but be of good cheer.

I have overcome the world.

I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ's Latter-day Saints.

I pray that everyone gets the care that they need, your son, and that his whole family feel the pure love of Christ.

Another giver, anonymous, may we spread peace, not more division.

Be willing to bear one another's burdens and pray that they may be light.

Be willing to mourn with those who mourn, yea, comfort those who stand in need of comfort.

Another ten dollars, mourning with those who mourn regardless of cause.

Sending my love from your this is

to the shooter's wife.

Sending my love from your LDS family, I'm sorry for your loss.

I believe your husband will find peace and healing in Jesus' embrace.

I hope this small contribution helps you in some way.

Another one, my prayers are with your family.

I know Jesus Christ loves all of his children and expects us to help each other.

May He send His Spirit to be with you

to provide peace and comfort during this difficult time.

Another giver, in Christ we find healing.

Blessed are the peacemakers, they shall be called children of God, Matthew

Praying that you find healing and peace.

I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I hope you find peace during this time.

I am certain that my small donation cannot make up for your pain and loss.

But I pray you may find it in the days ahead.

Many are asking why and not sure that we will ever fully know the answer.

But in the mix, I know this.

In Christ, we can and are made whole.

He knows you perfectly.

I want to do my part and forgive and help those in need, and I am certain your family needs help, and I support my fellow brothers and sisters for donating, even when this is hard.

We deeply know what it is to be hated while just trying to do good.

Our church and community will not do that to you, Sister Sanford.

We pray for you and welcome you with

and welcome you with open arms,

just like Jesus taught us.

Twenty dollars comes from an anonymous giver.

This is the way.

God is good.

$25 comes in from another anonymous giver.

We know families have hidden pains and sorrows.

We are sorry.

There is no way to help before this tragedy.

God, not time, heals all wounds.

Love is spoken here.

So you're now seeing

one of my favorite stories in modern history of forgiveness, the Amish.

They went to heal a family as they were still pulling the bodies of their children out of a school.

They went to heal the family of the shooter,

stood with his mother,

loved his mother,

helped rebuild her house and said, you can't leave our community.

You can't leave our community.

You're part of our community, and we love you.

And I have always admired the Amish so much for their understanding of forgiveness.

And I am so proud to see that it is happening now somewhere else,

this time in Michigan.

So that's one miracle that I saw.

And that is a miracle.

To forgive when you

naturally want to

is a miracle.

Now let me tell you this miracle.

This was written by the daughter, Lisa Louise, of Craig Hayden.

She writes this letter right after the thick of all of it.

And she writes this after she's been interviewed by the FBI.

And she tells the story about how she was kneeling over her father's body.

The gunman, Thomas Jacob Sanford, has just killed her father.

And

he

comes into the church, and he's just asking, You believe in Jesus Christ or Joseph Smith?

And if he didn't like your answer, you didn't answer fast enough, he shot you.

He shoots her father.

He goes down.

He's dead now.

He then looks at her, points the gun at her,

and asks the question.

I want you to listen to the letter, and this is what she testified to the FBI on.

I want you to listen to this.

I know many of you

don't want to hear this.

But when I gave a description of Thomas to the FBI, I told them that he had blue eyes, blue eyes brightened by tears, red and teary.

All I saw as I searched my memory was his blue eyes.

When he came over to me, I felt very calm, very peaceful, even as I kneeled over my father.

My hands were still

on my father.

As the gunman approached me, it felt like a long time.

I stared into his eyes

while I answered his question.

The only way I can describe

what I saw was

I saw into his soul.

I never took my eyes off of his eyes, and something happened.

I saw pain.

I felt how lost he was.

I deeply felt it with every fiber of my being.

I forgave him, because I could see his pain.

I forgave him right there, not in words, but with my heart.

Later, I kept asking to see a picture of him.

Something about his blue eyes caused me confusion.

I questioned if I was remembering what I actually saw correctly.

When I finally saw his picture,

his eyes were not blue.

I couldn't understand.

I know what I saw.

It was seared into my brain.

In the middle of the night,

while I was texting my sister, I realized it was my eyes I saw.

I saw into his soul, and he saw into mine.

He let me live.

I'm sharing this now because

I believe it's just one of the many reasons I was there.

Just one of the reasons.

and one of the reasons I needed to share this for Papa, for dad,

but also for anyone who could set aside hate.

Maybe that time won't be now for you, maybe it will be one day.

What we say and what we do matters.

Quoting Yoda fear

breeds anger, anger breeds hate, hatred breeds suffering.

If we can stop the hate, we can stop the suffering.

But stopping the hate takes all of us.

I promise you, if just for one month you can stop using crude language, if you can stop,

if you can stop taking the Lord's name in vain,

you will feel a change.

And you start there.

If you can stop letting anger in, hate cannot spread.

And we can stop it.

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I remember my first death threat where I had to leave the state.

It was in 2002, I think.

It was a Palestinian who said that we don't kill people, we don't kill people, and if you don't stop saying these things, I'll cut your head off myself.

The FBI was called in and investigated, and they found the guy, but

we needed to leave the state at least for a couple of weeks.

And we lived out in California without anybody knowing that we were in California.

And it was strange and bizarre, but it was a one-off.

The first time I had serious death threats that were continual was when I was at Fox News.

Sorry, when I was at CNN.

And there was this

video that had been made and shared on YouTube, and it showed me

on CNN, CNN.

And they had slowed down the tape, and they had a driving acid rock behind it.

And a disembodied female voice said, All traitors must die.

All traitors must die.

And underneath my face was the word traitor.

And

it was a little terrifying because we had

massive threats from seemingly everywhere all the time.

And

as that started, I had to go on tour,

and I was doing my Christmas sweater tour.

And if you ever saw that, you didn't know all of these things were going on.

But that was a really difficult tour for me to do for a myriad of reasons.

But one of them is because we were under those death threats.

We had to switch buses every time I would get someplace.

I would take another bus.

It was parked out back or on the side or wherever we'd come in one door and leave another.

And we had one of our buses.

Luckily, it was the decoy bus that was run off the road by some radicals that, you know, thought I was a traitor and all traitors must die.

And

the worst experience was every day I was meeting about 5,000 people.

And it was on a book tour and a stage show.

And so I was in front of people all the time.

And everybody that came up to me was freaking me out

because you just didn't know.

And

I didn't know how to deal with it.

And so the first thing I did was I imagined the worst possible thing that could be done to me.

And I'm not going to explain what that was.

But I dealt with that.

I made peace with that.

What's the worst thing?

And I made peace with it.

But that didn't...

It helped me somewhat, but did not help me.

I needed spiritual help.

And I called a bishop of mine, and he came up and he

gave me the greatest blessing of my life.

That's the greatest gift besides redemption that has ever been given to me.

And I've never shared this

because it's very personal.

But I share it now because I want you to know what that woman wrote as she was sitting over her father, that's true.

That happens.

That's a gift.

And you can have that gift.

In this blessing,

this bishop gave me a blessing of discernment that I would know

if someone

had ill intent,

and that I would be able to see people in their pain.

I remember he gave me this blessing on a bus, and I went in, and that day, and I still have it today in certain situations where I am surrounded by a bunch of people and I am meeting people quickly, you know, two seconds, three seconds, and I have no time to judge anything.

And this gift comes back to me and I wish I had it all the time

because it doesn't just show me trouble for me.

It shows pain.

I would stand when we were signing books, people would stand in line and I would literally have two seconds.

And it was so important to me that I could connect with people.

And they stood in line for a long time, and I wanted them to know I saw them.

And so I've always tried

to look people in the eye when I meet them in those two seconds, literally two seconds.

After that blessing,

in those two seconds, I could see happy, sad, suicidal, lost,

pain.

I could see it.

And sometimes it was so strong, they would walk away, because I had to have two seconds, and they would walk away, and I'd be in front of somebody else, and I'd say, stop, can you stop for a second?

And I would walk.

I'd stop that other person from walking away, and I would walk up, and sometimes I would just hug them.

And when I felt that, and I did, almost every time those people broke down in tears.

And I've had story after story come to me saying, Glenn, I was on my way to kill myself.

I was going home to kill myself.

And something said, go over and stand in line and

meet him.

And you hugged me and said, it's going to be okay.

And I'm alive.

Pray for the gift of discernment.

It is the way to heal our land.

It's amazing.

It's an amazing gift from God.

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I want to talk to you a little bit about

miracles, some more miracles that I saw.

The Blaze posted a story about a man that

was arrested

as he threatened the Pride Parade in revenge of Charlie Kirk.

He said, quote, we can send a clear message.

And he's from Texas.

And he made these threats against members of the LGBTQ movement as payback for Charlie Kirk's death.

His name is Joshua Cole,

and he posted the threats on his Facebook page related to the Abilene Pride Parade and festival.

He said, and I'm quoting, I say we lock and load and pay him back for taking out Charlie Kirk.

There's only like 30 of them.

We can send a clear message to the rest of them.

Federal agents tried to contact Cole September 19th, a day after the Abilene police were tipped off about the threats.

His employer told investigators that he had just quit his job and stormed out of the building.

He

was described by his fellow employees as a hothead.

He was arrested after a traffic stop the day before the festival, and he said, well, I didn't mean that.

But the threats were also specific to a particular set of victims, people participating in the gay pride parade.

Tomorrow, this is what the prosecutor said.

With this level of specificity, Cole's comments were not mere idle.

careless talk, exaggeration, or something said only in a joking manner.

He said, I can see how you take them as threats, but I wasn't going to do anything.

Well,

so here's the miracle part of this.

The bottom of the story with the comments page, I never read the comments because you know what comments are like, right?

I mean, there's never anything good coming out of the comments.

I want to read the comments.

This is coming from the Blaze audience.

Okay.

We cannot and should not respond this way.

This is what they want and need to happen.

And if he's responding to Charlie Kirk's murder, this is not what Charlie was about or would ever want.

Let's not get into the mud they seem to enjoy living in.

I'd rather kneel in it and pray that the Lord restores sanity and their humanity to them, but never underestimate.

Be guarded and godly, but not fools.

Concerned citizen said, most conservatives don't act this way.

This is the act of a mentally deranged person.

The problem is there's probably more mentally deranged on the left, but that doesn't mean there aren't any on the right.

As Glenn Beck has warned us time and time again, there's always a danger of the Bubba effect as well.

Terry wrote in, if Erica can forgive Charlie Kirk's assassin, how can this guy act this way?

Billiam said, our side can never, ever, ever respond with violence.

They will use whatever we do against us, of course.

If they fire first, then you can fire back.

That's the principle of self-defense, but not this.

I think,

again,

you got to look to the small stuff, but I think miracles are happening every day.

There has been a change

in America, and we just have to keep watering that tree of righteousness.

We just have to keep plugging on and doing the next right thing every day because it is growing.

And if we can have this seen by people, I mean, they see the bad stuff all the time, time, all the time.

But when they see Christians actually acting like Christians,

I mean, I reminded what, what was it that Gandhi said?

I like this Christ of yours.

I just don't like his followers very much.

And that is true sometimes, man.

You're like, I don't think that's what Christ would have,

I don't think he would dig you right now, but I could be wrong.

Who am I to judge?

But if when people see people when they have everything to lose and when it's hard, when they see people do the right thing

and they mean it because it's the right thing, it changes.

It changes people, and that's what takes real courage.

Do you know what country is the most dangerous in the world for

Christians right now?

what's the country in the world that is the most dangerous?

I mean,

there's more killings of Christians and persecution of Christians right now than there has ever been in global history.

It just doesn't feel that way because nobody's talking about it.

Any ideas, Stu?

I've been reading a decent amount about Nigeria recently.

Is that what you're saying?

Exactly right.

Nigeria.

Nigeria is the country.

It is,

what is it,

10 times the number of Christians killed there than anywhere else in the world or all the rest of the world combined.

They're systematically killing Christians now.

And they are trying to wipe out.

It's the Boko Haram.

It's the Muslim cult that is trying to wipe out the Christian population of an entire country.

Since 2009, they've killed 100,000.

They've burned 18,000 churches.

These are Islamists.

And,

you know, Bill Maher said, there's much more of a genocide attempt going on there than there is going on in Gaza.

But because it's Christians and Muslims, who cares?

Jews aren't involved.

That's why.

He said, and I think I would count this as another miracle.

Here's an atheist who's saying, Look what's happening to the Christians.

And why aren't people in the streets on this one?

Where's the young people on this one?

And he said, if you don't know what's going on in Nigeria, your media source sucks.

You're in a bubble.

It's pretty amazing.

Pretty amazing.

By the way, if you are a supporter of the Nazarene Fund or Mercury One,

I won't tell you that we are in Nigeria, and I won't tell you we're not in Nigeria.

I will tell you that

it is an extraordinarily dangerous place,

and that

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to help the Christians in Nigeria.

I mean,

someday

these stories will be told.

The things that just I know

that are happening because of you, honestly, because of you, because you give to the Nazarene Fund or you give to Mercury One, the miracles that are happening every day that we can't tell you about because it puts people in too much danger.

It's remarkable.

I mean,

the story has to be told because long after all of us are dead,

when people look back in these days and they see what was going on in the world,

they are going to find a group of people that just listened to a podcast or a radio show

that, as a collective, did

more to save people around the world than any other non-religious group.

You know what I mean?

This is not a church.

This is not some big foundation.

This is just us.

Done more than anybody

can even begin to imagine.

And miracles happen every single day.

Really bad stuff happens every single day.

Believe me, I have to look at it every single day.

But I just wanted to take some time

to tell you

things I've never seen before

in a good way.

I've only seen what this

community is doing up in Michigan to raise money for the family of the shooter.

I've only seen that happen one other time, and that's with the Amish.

I've only, I've only

I've only seen people

love

when they're supposed to hate

Liamish, Martin Luther King, Gandhi.

I mean, the big ones.

I've only seen a group of people rescue as many people, not caring if they're Christians or they're Jews or if they're Yazidis.

They're just being killed for their religious persuasion, their creed.

I've never seen this many people rescued.

This audience has rescued more than Oscar Schindler has.

And I hope someday,

even if I have to write the book myself and then have it put on a shelf until

everybody's dead, someday people's names will be known, and you're one of them.

Your name will be in the book of life

for the difference that you're making every day.

You just don't know it.

You should.

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I am Glenn Beck, probably the only Mormon you will ever know, which is not good for the Mormons, because

I'm not one of the best ones.

Terrible example.

Yeah, terrible example of them.

Anyway,

let me play a couple of pieces of audio here that I think are amazing.

This is going to be the new mayor of New York, Mom Donnie.

Listen to what he said, where he's talking about violence.

and how he wants to end all cash bail.

Listen to this.

Cut five.

Oftentimes, we've even found as legislators when we go into these courts, the term violent crime is even used when people are stealing packages.

Violent crime is even used when people are accused of burglary and there happens to be a housing unit in that same dwelling.

So violence is an artificial construction.

We have to be very clear to what is happening here with these district attorneys.

That is violence.

That is violence of the highest order.

What's happening with the attorneys is violence.

But

when the man says it's violence, that's an artificial construct.

You know, when you say artificial construct in any way, shape, or form, I stop listening to you.

Am I the only one that blank is an artificial construct?

You know, you could say Star Trek is an artificial construct, which I think it pretty much is.

No, I don't listen to you anymore.

And I like Star Trek.

I'm not listening to you.

Yeah, that's just one of those phrases that immediately, because you're trying to, that basically means you're trying to take something that's true and turn it into fiction, right?

That's basically what you're doing with that phrase every time you use it.

Death is an artificial construct.

No, no, not for all of us.

It's really not.

It's really not.

And to understand Mom Donnie, because this is the Mom Donnie thing, right?

He's just going out there and he is trying to hide from everything he said, not 12 or 15 or 18 years ago, but 12 or or 15 or 18 months ago.

And now he's just trying to do.

And because everybody else in the race is beating up on each other, he's just kind of skating to

this job, which is a fascinating development in the financial capital of the world.

What do you think about, I don't know, Mayor Mansell Adams or whatever his name is?

Him dropping out.

Mansell, yeah.

Well, I mean, he's got to paint.

He's got to get back to the painting.

He was actually a photographer, but that's true.

Thank you.

That's right.

That's true.

Yeah, I think,

you know, Eric Adams dropping out.

You know, look, he wasn't going to win.

He was well behind.

I don't think it's going to make any difference in the race at all.

No doubt.

I don't think Curtis Lee was going to drop out, nor should he.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

You know what?

Because

they should have somebody to vote for.

They should have somebody to vote for who's not a communist or a murderer.

I just feel like that is a.

Okay, you make a good.

That's not an artificial construct.

It's not.

The people of New York should have some option that isn't the worst two people in our entire society.

That's what I think they should have.

And not to mention, you know, look, what has Curtis Leewood done with his life?

He spent his entire life

saying, hey, I don't think you should be murdered in the streets.

That's all he's tried to do.

Yes, he wears a funny hat.

Can we get over that?

And maybe he should just win this race.

Maybe that is the most sane outcome here.

I don't think he's going to happen.

It's not going to happen, though.

No, it's probably not.

It's not going to happen.

I mean, you know, Mr.

Artificial Construct is going to be the mayor, and

that is not going to end well.

No, it is not.

You know, if you ever wanted to see New York, now would be the time.

Now would be the time.

Because honestly, this would be damaging in any city.

If this person won in Dallas, it would be really bad for the country.

But New York City is a totally different animal.

Having a person in charge of that city that is this financial center of the world.

Yeah, is really legitimately scary scary for the country and the world in a lot of ways.

I don't know what's going to happen with that.

I think a lot of people are going to be running from the city.

I think that's going to be, you know,

yet another wave of that is going to happen.

We had it with COVID.

We had it at some degree with de Blasio.

I think we're going to have it yet again here with Mama.

Is this going to go to Florida or to Texas?

Move to California.

Your people are there.

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