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Hey, celebrate everybody.

Gold is almost $4,000 an ounce.

And I mean, I love this headline.

The value of America's gold hoard has topped $1 trillion for the first time.

Oh,

that's great.

We didn't buy any more gold.

Okay.

We're not saving.

First of all, I'm not sure the gold even exists, but we're not saving.

We're not buying more.

What's happening is because of what we are doing as a country, gold is going through the roof.

Yesterday, I remember telling you 12 months ago, $4,200 gold.

I mean, that is going to be tough, but I mean, it could happen.

Six months ago, I was telling you,

better hurry before it's a history lesson, right?

It's at

$3,824.50.

That's what it hit yesterday.

We're almost at 4,000.

That's a 45% increase in the price of gold in the last

year.

What does that mean?

Well,

there's another story that's kind of connected that might actually be some good news for this, and that is

it's government shutdown day.

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How excited are you that our gold reserves are over a trillion dollars now?

Almost as excited as I am for Shutdown Day, Glenn.

Yeah, really?

I'm actually kind of excited for Shutdown Day.

Yeah.

I mean, I'll tell you why here in a minute, but let me just stay on gold here for a second.

Has Bitcoin gone up 45% in the last 12 months?

I believe so.

But

if your point is that gold is performing very well, it has performed very well as an investment.

Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think, other than Bitcoin, is there anything else that is performing this well?

It is up 70%.

Bitcoin's up 75% in the last year.

75%.

Wow.

And what do those both have in common, Stu?

Why would both of those be going up?

Wudry, just curious.

I don't know.

Maybe it's the constant printing of money that has gone on forever, no matter who the president is, no matter who's in Congress.

It's just, that's the one thing we all seem to agree on, printing more money non-stop.

Yeah, we just spend and spend and spend and spend.

And the market is telling you, I don't think this is a good idea.

That's what the price of gold is telling you.

That's what the price of Bitcoin is telling you.

I don't think this is going to end well.

Okay.

So anybody who is, I mean, I actually saw people go, this is great.

Gold is up.

We got a trillion dollars.

First of all, a trillion dollars in gold.

We have 8,100 pounds of gold.

Or so they'll lead you to believe.

We have 8,100 pounds.

8,000 tons, right?

8,100 pounds.

I have tons.

Yeah, thank you.

8,100 tons of gold.

The next closest, they say, is Germany with almost 2,000 tons of gold, but I think China is probably way up there.

I could be wrong.

But

I'm not sure any of that gold is there in the first place.

And even if we took 8,100 tons of gold and we sold it or exchanged it for our debt, we would get nowhere on our debt.

A trillion dollars will cover half of the deficit from this year alone.

It won't even cover the full deficit.

You sell all of our gold and it won't won't even cover

the shortfall from this year's spending.

Maybe

I might want to buy some more gold.

You know,

I might want to buy some Bitcoin.

I'm just saying, because that doesn't bode well.

You know, when you have Fort Knox protecting our treasure and it doesn't even cover the bounced checks,

I don't know if you're going to make it, you know.

But here's some good news.

Let's get into the shutdown because I think this is a good thing.

Stu, give me your opinion on the government shutdown.

Well, generally speaking, I feel like the government shutdown puts the government back to some sort of sane size for a short period of time.

And that's how I typically look at it.

It's like if you have a non-essential employee that you can let stay home, they should maybe stay home every day.

Maybe all of the employees for the federal government should be essential, and those are the only ones we should keep.

But really, the question with a shutdown like this is what happens with the politics.

And we know typically the party who's out of power that is coming up with the demands and not just passing the clean CR is the one that gets blamed for it.

But I've got news for you that might not be the case this time.

So here's what's really fascinating.

So this has all been done by Russ Vogt.

He's the Office of Management and Budget, the OMB.

And he's the guy actually in charge of, you know, making sure everything is funded, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

He is a brilliant architect of small government.

He's all for this shutdown.

And here's why.

What Congress did is

They they

last week, they have a majority in the House.

Last week, they passed a clean, continuing resolution that would fund the government without any meaningful policy changes or add-ons, and then they left town.

They sent it over to the Senate.

Now, the Senate requires seven Democrats to join the Republicans to hit the 60-vote threshold, but the Democrats weren't allowed to vote vote yes unless Republicans agreed to a $1 trillion bunch of new demands.

A trillion dollars.

Republicans said, no,

no, not going to do that.

One of the things they wanted to do was fund Obamacare for illegals.

Do you remember?

You lie when Obama said, you're never going to have an illegal.

I got any money from Obamacare.

That's what they wanted.

They wanted money to be able to pay for Obamacare for illegals.

Congress said no.

Okay.

So what happens tonight when they shut things down?

Russ's vote is going to

be in the driver's seat.

If Congress shuts down now, if the government shuts down, he's going to go to work on some changes.

He's already instructed agencies to, quote, send reduction in force notices to all employees in programs, projects, or activities that check all three of the following boxes.

One, they're not paid for by mandatory spending.

Two, they aren't covered by the Big Beautiful Bill Act.

Three, they aren't in line with the president's goals.

And not just for the week, okay,

but until the program is reauthorized by Congress.

At which point, then, the people that they've just let go can reapply for their jobs.

That's an awful lot of government employees.

Okay.

Just think of this.

One,

if the program is not paid for by mandatory spending, if it's not covered by the Big Beautiful Bill Act, or if it's not in line with the government's, the president's goals,

they're to send pink slips out.

And they're permanent pink slips until Congress comes back and not reauthorizes the bill, but reauthorizes all of those programs.

I think this may be the happiest day I've had in a long time, if that works.

This may be one of the greatest things anyone has ever pulled off.

And the reason why the Democrats are going to lose is because, you know, Chuck Schumer,

he took a heavy blow last time, you know, when he authorized the, you know, first budget earlier this year.

And everybody's like, you got to fight.

He's like, I don't really have any tools to fight with here.

You got to shut it down.

Okay.

So now

nobody in the Democratic Party wants to do anything but shut it down unless they get a trillion dollars additional spending for illegals on Obamacare.

And all of the radicals, Chuck Schumer is being, you know, going to be primaried by a radical.

And so they know the radicals are going to get rid of all of the sane people.

Not that Chuck Schumer is sane, but all of the relatively sane people.

And all they want now is a battle.

And so they're going to get one.

And they think that this will work to their advantage.

And I don't know, as Stu just said,

probably will because the GOP is so unbelievably incompetent.

Yeah.

And obviously the media is going to do what they can.

I mean, it struck me yesterday, you know, we haven't heard word one

about any poor mothers who

will be at home without any money if the government shuts down.

I mean, usually this is two weeks of lead up of the sad single mom who will be at home and can't pay her bills.

And we meet every single one of them over and over and over and over and over again.

Have you heard word one of any consequences of a shutdown?

None of these people matter, apparently, this week.

And I wonder why that is.

You know, this is the issue here.

The media is going to do everything it can.

What is your possible theory?

Remember, gold's at $3,800.

It's a day to celebrate government's rich.

What is the possibility that you're implying here?

Well, the media obviously

has abandoned their typical way of covering this because usually what happens in these situations is the party that is out of power, that is demanding these things, I want this cut.

I want this expenditure.

They're the ones that would be blamed for a shutdown.

The Republicans have already passed this bill.

It's already been passed in the House.

They're on board for it in the Senate.

The only reason that we aren't going to continue spending at these completely absurd levels is because the Democrats are stopping it.

Normally, the way this works in the media, it would be the Democrats, the

out-of-power party, that would be blamed for this.

They're the ones getting in the way of everything just continuing this wonderful way forward where we continue to spend more money than we have.

And in this particular case, I'm not seeing any of that lead up.

I have not seen the talks about, I have not met the restaurant and bar owner in Washington, D.C.

yet that's going to have no one coming in, and they're going to have to lay off all of their waitresses and waiters at their restaurant.

I have not heard any of the people who rent out homes to those who no longer have jobs and there as landlords are going to be sobbing as they can't pay their electricity bills.

I have not heard any of these sob stories, any of the violin music.

I haven't heard any of it.

This is happening in hours, Glenn.

And we have not met any sob story people yet?

Where are all this?

Is everyone just happy now?

Everyone's just happy with the shutdown this one time.

The media is doing everything they can to try to turn this into a situation where the Republicans will be blamed for it because this is their jobs.

This is what they see their jobs as.

Figure out a way to blame evil Republicans for everything.

This one time they're going to try to do it this way.

And then, you know, next time there's a Democrat in office, the opposite is going to be their approach.

But we are at a time where we're going to figure out, yet again, whether the media can, if they are still capable, of manipulating this into a situation in which the Democrats benefit.

And if it works, you're going into a

midterm election next year that is already stacked against Republicans.

It's already a very difficult thing to do in an off year of your first,

of a president's new term.

So this is what their hope is.

And this is a big bet by Schumer because, as you point out, if he doesn't do this, he gets primaried by AOC and loses.

He has to do this for his own political survival.

So, you know, it's hard to imagine this getting cleaned up before the shutdown actually occurs.

And I don't know if there's any chance of that.

Yeah, I don't think the shutdown is going to occur.

I can't believe it's not going to.

The shutdown's going to occur.

And then, of course, planes will fall out of the skies.

Babies will no longer be able to suckle on their mother's teeth.

Oh, no.

The milk is going to run dry.

Oh, no.

Probably about maybe an hour after the shutdown.

And it will be all horrible, horrible, horrible.

I just can't get over

how they have handed

the

president

such a

victory.

If I understand this right, and I think I do, the victory that they are handing him is long-term.

By being able to fire people and then saying, you got to reapply.

I mean, he has just put a monkey wrench into agencies and things that he's wanting to shut down.

I mean,

it's pretty incredible.

I mean, it's a good attempt.

I like the idea that they're going to try to push it in the right way.

Remember, though, they had Doge in there.

They tried to do a lot of this stuff.

A lot of it got overturned in the courts.

I mean, you know, there's a very good chance the same type of thing happens here.

I mean, I'm not nearly as confident in this approach as you are.

I like it.

Yeah, I'm not sure the lasting impact.

I mean,

on paper, that's what they're trying to do.

And I agree with you on the courts.

But on the short term, you can't spend the money that's not there.

They have to cut

the government spending.

And so they'll have to cut it down to the bone.

And, you know, again, I go back to essential employees.

Everybody else should go home and stay home forever.

If you're not essential,

why are we paying you?

Why am I working all day long so you could have a job that's not essential?

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So

I just watched an hour of Pete Hagseth

meeting at the Pentagon with all of the leaders, and it all makes perfect sense to me why he called everybody in.

Remember, this has been speculated now, you know, we're going to war, we're going to, whatever.

And nobody really knew until he spoke at the Pentagon today to all of the leaders of our military all over the world.

They've all been called back to Washington, D.C.

for this meeting today.

Never been done before.

And everybody was wondering why.

In listening to it, he didn't say anything other than common sense.

You know, we have this wishy-washy, you know,

coalition-building, you know, let's spread democracy kind of military that is now have men in dresses and everything else.

And his goal has been to change that from top to bottom.

And he's been doing it.

Today, all it was was a reaffirmation of that and more in real clear terms.

We are no longer putting up with any kind of non-action.

If you're not earning your position, if you're not a person of merit, you will not be promoted.

In fact, you'll probably be fired.

We are the Department of War.

We are not the Department of Woke.

Our job is to defend our country and to become the most lethal killing machine in the world.

So if our country ever needs it, we are there.

It was a really stirring speech

and I want to take a couple of minutes after this quick break to explain why did he call everybody in?

And to me,

it makes perfect sense.

I mean, it's just my guess of why, but it makes perfect sense.

I'll explain now.

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Let me go to Trump.

He is now live addressing the top military leaders

after the address with Pete Hagseth.

Can we take just a little bit of it that are doing

so well.

Together over the next few years, we're going to make our military stronger, tougher, faster, fiercer, and more powerful than it has ever been before.

I rebuilt our nuclear, as you probably know, but we'll upgrade that also and just hope we never have to use it.

We have to hope we never have to use it because

the power of that is

so

incredible.

I see things, I don't think they'd show it to you, I really wouldn't want them to show it to you.

But when you see the result of what's left, you never want to use that.

Never.

Never, ever.

We were a little bit threatened by Russia

recently.

And I sent a submarine, nuclear submarine.

The most lethal weapon ever made.

Number one, you can't detect it.

There's no way.

We're 25 years ahead.

of Russia and China in submarines.

Russia's actually second in submarines.

China's third, third, but

they're coming up.

They're coming up.

They're way lower in nuclear too, but in five years they'll be equal.

They're coming up.

And you don't have to be that good with nuclear.

You could have one 20th what you have now and still do the damage.

That would be, you know,

that would be so horrendous.

But I understand.

So what he's talking about here, Pete Hankseth just came in and said, we're going to reshape our strategy, which I think is really good.

You know, know, after the last 25 years of war, no, the last 50 years, the way we've been fighting has been ridiculous.

It's ridiculous.

We don't fight to win.

We put handcuffs on our people.

We should be breathtaking.

I mean,

that should be the goal of our military.

You go in, you go in quickly, and you just suck the air out of the lungs of your opponent.

So everybody's like, oh my gosh, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

That's the way you save lives.

And we've not done that.

Now, when he's talking about nuclear, I have talked to the president about this personally multiple times.

He despises our nuclear capability.

And he knows what we can do because, as he just said, he rebuilt it.

And he said, Glenn,

you don't want to even know what we are capable of doing.

It keeps him up at night.

It keeps him up at night.

And he believes that we have to have these defenses, or when the world goes crazy, if you don't, you'll be threatened by them and you have to have a response to hold people into check.

And that's why they've changed the Department of Defense to the Department of War.

Hagseth is really, really sharp.

Hegseth knows that we have become this

force that cares more about

spreading democracy than winning a war when our nation is attacked.

If you really wanted to change things, the United States would have gone into Afghanistan quickly,

knocked out the Taliban, killed Osama bin Laden, and come home.

Come home.

That sends a message.

We're not an enemy of people.

We are going to destroy the people who have just hurt hurt us in our own homeland.

We will destroy you.

You will pay the highest of prices.

But we're not going to get involved in your local politics or anything else.

We're just not going to do it.

And the State Department and everybody else has made this nation-building bull crap our main priority.

That's not what our Pentagon is supposed to do.

They are supposed to break things and kill people.

And so the first message that Pete Hakeseth and the president sent to the fighting forces all around the world, and I believe even our own fighting forces, is we are not a department of defense.

We are a department of war.

We don't want war.

We don't want to go to war, but that's what we should be preparing for all the time.

Because if we're prepared for war,

it's the best deterrent out there to stop wars.

I agree with it 100%.

So why did Hegseth call everybody in?

Now, he said it wasn't any big deal.

The president said it was a big deal.

There's been speculation on, you know, what does all this mean?

Let me tell you what I think it means.

After listening to Hegseth, let me tell you what it means.

All Hegseth did, he said, in the coming months, we're going to be changing all of our strategies.

We are going to be re-looking at our

offense and defensive posture all over the world.

We are not going to be playing the same game anymore, and we'll have more on that later.

That's not worth calling everybody in from all over the world.

Here's what was:

we've made some changes, and you have felt those changes, I believe.

You've seen those changes.

We are now a Department of War, and we operate only on merit, not DEI, not special favors, favors, not how long you've been in the chain of command.

If you don't earn your space, you lose your space.

We are going to be a lethal fighting force.

We're not going to lower our standards.

If you can't pass the physical test, you're out.

We must keep our standards high.

His main thing, I think, was to let the fighting force, let the leadership know two things.

One, if you're a warrior and you want to be a warrior, you are probably the one who is

least likely to vote for war because you know what war does.

You know the scars.

You know the death.

And so you don't want war.

But

you grew up most likely, and I'm paraphrasing him, you grew up wanting to be a soldier, wanting to defend your country.

And you have now found yourself in this situation to where that's not what you've been doing.

You've been nation building and you've been, you know, the woke police.

That all ends.

Why did he have to call everybody in?

Let me explain it this way.

If you work at all remotely, like Today, I'm in Florida, my staff is in Dallas.

And if I said to my staff,

guys, I want to have a meeting today online, and it's mandatory everybody is there, and I make a statement and I say, hey, we're changing a bunch of stuff, and this is just the way it is, it'll imprint and make an impact, but not the kind of impact that I said,

everybody, I want you to drop everything you're doing and I want you to get on a plane and you're going to join me for a day in Florida because I want an all-hands on deck meeting and everyone is required to be there.

That gets everybody in the building going, what the hell is happening?

What is coming?

And so you're very clear.

You are listening intently.

And you realize that your boss has now sent a message.

We're not fooling around on this.

I'm not just saying these words.

I mean these words.

We are changing the way we do things.

And if you don't get on board, you're fired.

That's why he called everybody in.

Not for any new war tactics, et cetera, et cetera.

I mean, those may be discussed, but it's not that we are, you know, going to war with anybody, going to war with Russia or anything else.

What he was doing was sending the message, this president and I are very serious.

The culture is going to change.

And it's going to change right now.

You don't like it?

Don't get onto a plane.

Come to my office.

I'll relieve you of command.

It was the most common sense thing I've heard from a leader in Washington in a very long time.

Everything he said was like, okay, well, that makes sense.

And you follow that with, I mean, you know the answer, but you follow that with, we haven't, they haven't known this already?

No, they haven't.

Because we haven't been fighting, we haven't been dealing with things.

We are so far away from common sense that, no, you do have to say those things now.

Yeah, you're not going to advance unless you're actually

making our situation stronger in the direction that the president has set.

If you're making it weaker,

if you are sabotaging us, if you think you're going to escape, you're not going to escape.

You're going to be fired.

That's fantastic.

It's called accountability.

And I haven't heard that for quite some time.

The president is also changing the world.

He is,

you know, I don't know if you saw his 20-point plan for Israel.

But man, I love the way this guy thinks.

Again, he's not going in and taking

this view of what we've done before.

He's saying none of that has worked.

So I've gotten with everybody in the Arab world, and I've gotten with Israel.

That hasn't happened before.

I got everybody in the Arab world and Israel.

And we're telling you right now, Hamas, release the hostages today.

Accept this 20-point plan.

It is all in line with the Arab world.

It's not the United States or Israel dictating this to you.

The Arab world is saying exactly what I'm saying.

So you are out of step with your own people all around you.

So accept this deal.

Otherwise, I can't help you.

Israel.

As Benjamin Netanyahu said, if they fool around, if they don't accept it, or if they accept accept it and then don't follow through and release the hostages, then we will finish the job.

And what that means is they'll kill all of the Hamas leadership, as they should.

I mean, I don't know.

I can't believe we're debating that in the first place.

And there's no

two-state solution.

Now, the Arabs are saying, do all these things, and then we'll talk about a two-state solution.

But Hamas and the Palestinians do not want a two-state solution.

They have been talking about

Israel giving the Palestinians a two-state solution since 1948.

Okay?

They don't want it.

They've turned it down over and over again.

They want to wipe out from the river to the sea, i.e.

all of Israel.

They want to wipe it out and make it void of any Jews.

That's not a two-state solution.

That's the final solution.

So they've turned it down over and over again.

And I think what Donald Trump is doing is absolutely right.

No, we're not even going to talk about a two-state solution until you do all of these things.

Stop terror, release all the hostages, then come to the negotiating table, and we'll talk about it.

Other than that, no, no.

And the Arab world is with me.

If this guy can get these things done,

he transforms the world.

Now, I have very little

faith that,

the Middle East is ever going to find peace.

It might find it temporarily, but they're not going to find peace.

I mean, we know how this ends.

If you read the book,

the whole last chapter is about this.

It doesn't end well.

I mean, it does actually end well, but first, there's a lot of problems with it.

It's not going to fall into peace easily.

Then, one more thought on Israel.

This Charlie Kirk nonsense has got to stop.

Has got to stop.

This conspiracy theory, now the conspiracy theory is that his own people shot him.

Uh-huh.

Okay.

Last week, I think it was that the Israelis had a trapdoor behind him, and that's why they're redoing that whole section because they have to get rid of seal that tunnel underneath the stage where they had a trapdoor and some Jew popped out and shot him in the back.

Okay,

it didn't happen.

I don't know how you would possibly even believe that.

But the other was, ah, yeah, well, Charlie was turning on the Israelis.

He didn't like Israel at all.

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online last night, and my first reaction was to react to it.

It came from BYU Blue.

You know, they went to Colorado over the weekend and the people in the stands were chanting F the Mormons.

And,

you know,

I guess we're all getting so coarse, but I don't know how you can do that.

I mean, how can, you know, you wouldn't be allowed to chant that, you know, F the Evangelicals or F the Christians or, you know, or the or the Jews or the Catholics.

But somehow or another, this is okay.

And it's all going to work itself out.

It's not what I want to talk to you about.

Here's what I wanted to,

was going to react to until I did some homework.

There was a post that said, those people were right.

God sent one of his true warriors, battle-tested, to sacrifice his life to burn down a false temple, just like the world would do in the Old Testament.

If God favored you, it wouldn't have happened.

Now, that obviously will get your blood boiling,

especially if you're just scrolling through.

But I want to talk to you about this

and not

about

Mormons, okay?

Because I want to make something really clear.

You know, it was a hard day, a hard couple of days.

Sunday and Monday were very hard for anybody of my faith.

But I want to make this really clear to you.

I don't really care what you label me.

I really don't.

Whether you call me a Christian or not, it doesn't matter to me.

I know what I believe.

I know who I follow.

I believe in Jesus Christ.

He is my Savior and my Redeemer.

I know it because it's worked miracles in my life.

He has.

I believe he is the Son of God, that he lived a perfect life, that he suffered for my sins, that he died on the cross, that he rose three days later.

I believe only through his grace and his power am I forgiven and healed and lifted above the natural man.

There is no other way

except through him

to heaven.

No other way.

So, does that make me a Christian?

I don't know.

I don't care.

I really don't care what you think.

I know who I serve and worship.

Are there differences between my faith and maybe your faith?

You know, the doctrines that were hammered out centuries ago by Constantine and Nicaea?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I can't believe we can't argue about things that were, you know, hammered out in that council, but it doesn't matter.

Again, it doesn't matter.

Because those differences to me

pale to the core.

And the core is

I love my Savior Jesus Christ.

And it doesn't matter to me if you believe that or not.

I would like you to because it would make me feel better, but my feelings don't matter.

It doesn't matter.

It really doesn't.

What matters is that I strive to walk with him.

And that doesn't have anything to do with you or what you believe about me.

I strive to walk with him.

In fact,

the more pushback I get on that, the harder I work, perhaps, at striving to walk that path.

But he's the one that changes me.

He's the one that molds me.

He's the one that has made me into something far greater than I could have ever been on my own.

And I know, because half my life I tried it on my own.

The natural man is an enemy to God.

Natural man wants all of the things.

He is running towards sin because it's easier and it feels good.

That's how I lived my life the first half.

And then I surrendered and I asked for forgiveness and I dedicated myself.

to follow his his path and my whole life changed.

So it doesn't matter what creed you assign to me,

and it doesn't matter what creed others assign to you.

It doesn't.

What matters to me is what kind of man am I.

I don't judge people by their race, their color, their creed.

I judge them by the content of their character.

That's what matters to me.

My character, my credibility, who I am as a man, what I do when nobody's looking.

That's what matters to me.

And you can say, I mean, people have called me all kinds of names.

I don't know why this one bothers me,

but it's not going to.

I know who I am, and I know

I have a huge path to becoming a much better man if I follow him more closely.

But what kind of man am I?

That matters.

Am I a better husband?

That matters.

Am I a better father?

A more loving father?

Am I a kinder neighbor?

Am I a better citizen?

That's what matters.

Can I find a way to love people who despise me?

No, I can't.

But I know following him I can.

It's only possible because his teachings are supernatural.

They are beyond nature.

I know what the natural, I know what me, just as a natural man, I know the life I would live.

That's not good.

I need something supernatural, above nature,

that can transform me.

And it's supernatural and it is radical.

And those are the only things that can get you to, at least for me, rise above my selfish selfish instincts.

So call me what you will.

I don't care.

I don't do this show for your approval.

I do this show hopefully for your benefit.

But if you find no benefit in it, that's okay.

And I'm not trying to convince you one way or another of anything.

My job is to tell you my opinion on what is happening to us.

What is happening in our world.

And if you don't agree with it or you don't like it, that's okay.

No harm, no no foul.

I mean, unless you've subscribed, you ain't paying for it.

So you're getting what you paid for.

You know what I'm saying?

Stop listening.

Call me what you will.

I know I'm anchored in him.

And every good thing in my life has happened.

Everything that I have done that is good is his work.

Everything where I have a shortfall or a misdeed is my work.

And I know the difference between him and me.

So what does this have to do with that

tweet that I just read to you?

The natural man in me wanted to respond.

I read so much stuff last night,

both beauty, and ugliness.

And I know how the natural man wanted to respond.

But I believe that we all need to pledge to one another

that we will think critically,

that we will act morally, that we will treat everyone with dignity.

No lie, no fear, no crisis is going to rob me of truth or freedom.

I can only give those things away.

You cannot take my freedom away.

You cannot take my dignity away.

You cannot take truth away from me.

I must surrender it, and I will not surrender those things.

But to do that requires us to think critically.

So

let me go back to that online.

They were right.

God sent in one of his true warriors, battle-tested, to sacrifice his life to burn down a false temple, just like they would have in the Old Testament.

God would have favored you, it wouldn't have happened.

You know what that turns out to be?

Almost,

almost positively a bot.

And if it's a bot, it is almost positively a bot from a foreign nation that is trying to get us to turn on one another.

So, why

would I respond to that with other than

not fooling me?

I mean, I know people exist.

I know the killer existed.

He was a deeply disturbed man.

I don't know what happened in his life that got him to this place.

He is going to have to pay a, well, he did,

a very heavy price.

And we need to know

what happened to him, but not to excuse the action, but so we can understand it.

And we cannot participate.

I mean, you know, he was saying to that politician, I don't know if you saw this, he said to the politician who knocked on his door, and the politician said, ah, it's just this normal stuff that you would have heard online.

Really, really?

Is it normal to call people of faith the Antichrist?

Is that really?

Because we've been arguing here recently that by calling us, you and me, and for the president and everybody else, a Nazi

is going to lead to killings, right?

Because if you're a Nazi, if you actually believe that person is a Nazi, that person is Hitler, you don't have a choice.

You have to kill them, right?

Well, I don't know about you, but the Antichrist is probably a little higher up on the list to kill than Hitler.

I mean, when I weigh Hitler, Hitler's bad, don't get me wrong, but when I'm like, I got to have lunch with either Hitler or the Antichrist, I think I choose Hitler if I have to choose.

So why is nobody noticing that, wait a minute, if that's causing violence, this will too.

We can't make people into others.

We can't demonize them to that point.

We can say we disagree with them.

Disagree with my doctrine all you want.

It's fine.

It's fine.

But the Antichrist?

So those people do exist.

But I don't want to shut them up.

I don't want to hate them.

I'd like to prove them wrong by my own actions.

There was a great article about

should Christians forgive Charlie Kirk's killer from Charisma magazine online.

Who wrote this?

Let me see here.

Abby Trivett.

And

it's just a great article.

And she talks about how Erica Kirk talked about forgiving and how I talked about how we cannot.

We have, you know,

we have the right to hate, but that's not going to to be it's not that's not helpful

we we we have to love

even those who despise us because that's that's not the natural man that's super natural man

so

i i want to i want to share with you kind of a a code of conduct that I want to apply to myself.

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You don't know what's not true.

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So there's a few things that I have to do and I have to master to be a better man, to be a better citizen probably in this.

And that is the first thing is seek truth.

Always seek truth.

You know, the bigger the lie, the more apt you are to believe it.

So I will question all bold claims and I will follow the evidence to its source.

And that's what I did on that tweet.

That's a pretty bold statement that somebody made.

So let me follow that.

Instead of just reacting, let me follow that.

It's a bot.

Embrace complexity.

The world requires context, but nobody's searching for it.

It requires context.

We take sound bites and we act on those.

Don't settle for slogans.

This one's really hard.

Diversify the inputs.

I had a great conversation with

Jonathan Haidt yesterday.

It's going to be our podcast comes out maybe tomorrow or the next day.

And

it was a tough one because we don't necessarily, we don't see the world the same way, although we are both trying to get to the same place in the world.

And

it was a way for us to talk about things that are hard to talk about because we disagree.

But we both came away friends.

That is so important.

We have to listen more widely.

We have to talk to those people that we disagree with and just stop trying to win.

Just try to understand: how did you get there?

We have to start taking responsibility for our own life.

I have to take responsibility for what I say to you every day,

what I do, what my actions are, what my reactions are.

Take responsibility.

I'm not going to scapegoat.

I have to own my part in solving problems.

I have to practice restraint.

I can't just fly out of fear or outrage or manipulation.

I can't be ruled by that.

Seek proportion.

This one is...

Weigh the crisis honestly and reject the false urgency.

When these people, more people are gunned down, you're going to see calls for crazy things, including digital ID.

It's coming.

No, don't know, no, no.

The crisis does not call for those kinds of things.

And then to be able to do that, we have to balance our head and our heart.

There's this great letter from Thomas Jefferson.

where he's debating his heart.

His head and his heart are debating back and forth because he loves somebody, but

he made a promise to his wife, you know, he would never marry again out of his love.

I don't know if he actually, I can't remember if he actually promised it or if he just promised it in his head.

But he loves somebody now after she's gone for so many years.

And he's fighting with

his head and his heart.

It's beautiful.

We have to balance our head and our heart.

You know, let emotion move you, but reason guide you.

One that we could use right now more than ever that I have to be better on is

I have to respect dignity.

I have to honor every person's humanity,

even in

visceral disagreement.

And then the last one, and I've always made this for me, is ends never justify the means.

But let me rephrase it.

Do you have moral boundaries?

Never cross those moral boundaries.

Because the ends justify the means is happening to too many people right now.

Well, they did this, and we have to stop that so I can kill that person.

It's okay.

No.

Never

abandon your integrity for the sake of victory.

Never.

That's the only way we survive this

is if

we have a civil and moral code of conduct that we're not trying to police everybody else.

We're just trying to police ourselves

and then follow him,

know that he is the only way that you're going to be able to make it through the natural man with all this craziness and do the next right thing.

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I know this is an English-speaking show, but we're gonna run a tight commercial in a second.

Why?

We're not going to.

This is Bad Bunny.

And I have to tell you,

I don't understand Bad Bunny.

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And I'm pretty cool with that.

I mean, I'm good.

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I'm all bad bunnied out, I guess.

Now, Jason, who is a little cooler, Jason Whitlock from Blaze, he's joining us now because he is you're apoplectic on bad bunny.

Yes, I am, Glenn.

All right.

It's, look, obviously they're trolling Donald Trump.

Obviously, they're trolling ICE raids and the whole illegal immigration policy enacted by Trump.

Obviously, they're going out to Northern California where the Super Bowl is in Santa Clara this year, and they gather Newsome, Kamala Harris, Nancy Bowl.

This is their headquarters.

And they want to make a statement about illegal immigration.

They want to make a statement about diversity and Spanish-speaking people.

They want to make a statement about transgenderism and sexual fluidity.

And Bad Bunny checks all those boxes.

And so that's what they're doing.

This has nothing to do with football fans.

This is about the left's control of popular culture and control of the National Football League, which is the strongest thing in popular culture.

And they're using it to make a big, bold statement about how they feel about Donald Trump, but more importantly, how they feel about Jesus Christ.

So now, as an expert on Bad Bunny for the last 35 seconds,

let me push back on this.

I think I agree with you,

Jason, but let me push back on you.

I see

the NFL,

I see the NBA placating China because that's their new place.

The NFL all over the world, NFL really trying to get football to be American football in other markets.

Why is this not just a continuation of that play to get the Super Bowl to be watched in Latin America?

Because there's plenty of other Latin American artists they could have chosen if that was the play.

They didn't have to pick someone who is so closely associated with demonic activities, so closely associated with promoting gender fluidity and the cross-dressing deal.

They didn't have to pick someone who's so outspoken against Donald Trump and his illegal immigration policies.

This is the poster boy for a Trump hate, hate,

and this is the poster boy for sexual fluidity and redefining masculinity.

These are things straight out of his own mouth.

And look, all money isn't good money.

And that's what globalism is teaching us: that we can throw away all of our Christian values, all of our American values in pursuit of global money.

And then what are we left with?

A drag show at halftime of the biggest platform we have to offer in American culture.

And so parents will be having discussions with their kids on Super Bowl Sunday.

Mommy, Daddy, why is this man out here dressed as a woman during some part of this act?

Why are his fingernails painted?

Why is he taking subtle shots at Trump?

This is, to me, part of it's a reaction to the Charlie Kirk Memorial Service.

It was such a powerful pro-Jesus Christ deal.

They have their answer now,

and it'll be Super Bowl Sunday.

Let me ask you,

because

he won't tour in the United States because of ICE, right?

So he's already sworn off the United States of America as a tour stop because he is so strongly anti-ICE.

You just said that he was also demonic or he pushes demonic things.

I want to play a piece of audio that we have from somebody who went to his tour, and then I'd like you to explain for somebody who is now a full 90 seconds into

you know

what's his name the bunny guy

what what this means here's the audio listen fans are reporting that they felt a demonic presence when attending bad boonies recent concert fans even started to make it into a meme by taking videos saying that the concert just feels demonic but it became extremely dark when this song bataniko came on where there were masked demons dancing all over him, and the concert turned all red.

Even the music video to this song is extremely dark.

It's this monster-looking thing that creeps up into this woman's room, and it actually ends up becoming Bad Booney himself.

Those who attended this concert are even advising people: if you're gonna go see Bad Boonie's concert, then schedule your bathroom work.

I'm not gonna dig any more of this, you know.

Obviously, AI.

The image that they put is Nasferatu,

you know, the vampire Nasferatu.

Tell me what,

I mean, I've seen a lot of stuff that I feel is pushing demonic forces, especially in the music industry.

Tell me what your thoughts are on this, why it's clear to you.

The music industry clearly has a close association with the occult movement.

This goes all the way back to the Beatles and probably before that.

But in rap music, these rappers, American and this guy, Bad Bunny, and everybody else, they so are out of the closet with the occult symbolism in their music, in their videos, what they rap and talk about.

It's undeniable that there is an occult association.

And Glenn, this is funny.

Yesterday as I'm processing this and on Sunday, I started thinking about, well, what song could we use as a protest song for

what they're doing here at the Super Bowl?

And I was like, we're not going to take it.

We're not going to take it anymore.

And I go look it up because I just remember it from my childhood.

And it's Twisted Sister.

They had the song, We're Not Gonna Take It.

And then I went and watched the video.

And the video is a kid in his bedroom.

His dad comes in yelling at him.

And the kid spins around

and like turns into an adult long-haired cross-dressing man and starts singing the song, We're Not Gonna Take It.

And I was just like,

holy cow, they've been putting this message in the music show.

And you dabbled it.

This came out in 1984.

Yeah, I know.

I unfortunately was on the radio, you know, playing the hits when that was out.

Is it true that Jay-Z is responsible for selecting the last six of the inclusive halftime shows?

Absolutely all of it.

And it actually, Jay-Z's first Super Bowl that he ran, I believe, is in 2020.

He picks Shakira, but the special guest was Bad Bunny.

His special guest was bad.

So this started in 2020.

This is always where it was going.

You can find plenty of videos of Jay-Z

doing doing spirit dancing and occult-like activities.

This is what Jay-Z is all about.

And much of it is justified and or defended by diversity.

We got to have diversity.

And Jay-Z's black and they're just upset because Jay-Z is black.

And

no one has to deal with it.

No, we're upset because he promotes the occult, that he promotes a form of music that is grooming our kids for violence, grooming our kids for sexual fluidity and promiscuity and degeneracy and disrespect for authority.

And that's what we don't like about Jay-Z.

They've used this racial deal and accusations of you're a racist if you criticize Jay-Z or criticize anything defined as black culture.

And if you're someone like me, they say you're an Uncle Tom at a sellout.

And this is why, for years, I've been running running around saying, men, particularly white men, you're going to have to buckle up, get over the fact that they're going to call you racist, and defend your values and beliefs.

If your values align with Jesus Christ, you defend them and you deal with the consequences.

That's what I do.

That's what you do.

That's what Charlie Kirk did.

That's what we all have to do if we're going to stand up to this madness and insanity.

So how do you stand up against this?

Because nobody is going to abandon the NFL.

I mean,

you know, Jesse Kelly said, what, yesterday?

Ah, they're very upset.

Everybody's very upset about the halftime.

They'll have another six-day boycott of the NFL.

And that's true.

Glenn, I do think there's an opportunity here as it relates to the Super Bowl, as it relates to some sort of counter-programming.

Super Bowl halftime, at least, or just on the Super Bowl.

I've listened to Jack Pasevic and others others suggest, hey, we should have a counter deal through TPUSA, through the Blaze, through whatever.

Can we get Creed to perform?

Can we get,

in my view, I love Forrest Frank

and I would love for churches to host events on Super Bowl Sunday in the evening so that we have, because Glenn, there's no chance of me watching the Super Bowl this year.

I talked about it last year.

I was upset with Kendrick Lamar.

This is the bridge way too far for me.

I will not watch the Super Bowl this year.

I get

skipping out on it.

I don't think it's the appropriate thing to skip out on the NFL and sports altogether because the Young Men's Christian Association, the YMCA, in the late 1800s, early 1900s, they organized sports.

Sports have been stolen from Christians.

And I don't believe in surrendering and just handing it over to them and to the atheist, to the secular crowd.

It's a tool God intended for us to use to disciple and mentor masculine men in Christianity.

It's been stolen from us by television and we need to fight to have it back because it's a great tool to disciple young men.

So I don't believe in abandoning, but as it relates to the Super Bowl, no dice for me.

There's just, there's not, you couldn't pay me to watch this year's Super Bowl because I feel like I would be spitting in the face of God.

Well, I will tell you that, you know, I don't care about sports, but my family cares deeply about, you know, the NFL and depending on who's playing.

And,

you know, but I could see even the diehards, you know, my son, I could absolutely see him saying, I'm turning it off.

And those ratings matter.

The ratings matter.

Turning not just the game off, but even if you turned off the halftime show,

those ratings matter a great deal.

If everybody just said, I'm not watching this and turned to something else for the halftime show,

that is a half step, but an important half step.

Would you agree or disagree with that?

I totally agree.

And again, I'm using Charlie's memorial service as our blueprint.

That produced incredible numbers all over the internet, internet, anywhere that was broadcast.

And I think we could do the same thing with musical performance.

If Brandon Lake, Forrest Frank, Creed, whomever,

if offered the alternative that, hey, just turn your TV off or whatever and open up your iPhone or your iPad or whatever, flip over on your smart TV to a counter-programmed Super Bowl halftime, rather than invite the devil, Satan, into your home,

I think a lot of people would take that option.

I know I would.

I know I would.

Jason, thank you so much.

How are you doing?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

Are you?

I'm doing great.

I appreciate it.

Appreciate you.

Thank you.

Hey, I know this has been a tough weekend for you,

given the church deal.

And

so I appreciate you making some time for me today.

Oh, I love you.

Jason, thank you so much.

Jason Whitlock, you can follow him at theblaze.com/slash fearless.

If you've never watched Jason, he is fantastic.

Watch him, fearless, theblazetv.com.

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Now that Trump has designated Antifa, a domestic terrorist organization, what happens?

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I mean, this is the guy that I love this.

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Yeah, he's the guy who still pretends that Antifa is the real enemy.

Well,

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Weird thing for you to want to do, but sure, I'd love to.

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There's a lot going on.

President Trump and

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Secretary of War, Pete Hagseth, spoke to the generals and the leaders of our military today in something that was highly, highly unusual.

Everybody was, you know, wondering, are we going to a global war or whatever?

I explained it earlier today in the podcast.

It makes total sense to me why he held it here in person.

He was sending a very strong message to the military commanders and the leaders.

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Glenn, how are you?

Sarah, let me know when we can get a hold of Andy and we'll bring him on.

Did you copy that, Sarah?

Sorry.

Yes, she got that.

She's nodding at you furiously on the other side.

Okay, well, I can't see you.

I'm in another state.

So the nodding thing really doesn't work, Sarah.

I just want to let you know.

She's flipping you off.

Oh, my gosh, Sarah.

Calm down.

Calm down, Sarah.

Jeez.

You know, her anger.

She has real anger problems in there.

Yeah, I know.

I think it's all the alcohol.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, it calms her down for a while, but then about this time in the morning, it's rage of alcohol.

It starts to fuel some of her anger and her rage issues.

You know what I mean?

It's so deep.

Yeah.

Sad.

Sad, but you know, we have to deal with this.

We've had to deal with it for many years.

You know, a lot of people think that alcoholism,

you know, a sign of that is that you start drinking in the morning.

And the good thing is with Sarah, she just doesn't stop drinking.

You know, at one point she started drinking in the afternoon and at night,

and then it's just been continual.

So she doesn't start drinking in the morning.

Yeah, it's the same binge.

She never stops.

Yeah.

From back in the day.

So back in the day.

Just consistency is what it is.

And it's impressive.

Right now, she's.

But that's why we don't give her a mic.

Anyway,

Andy No is going to be joining us here in

just a minute.

I'm interested in talking to him because of

what is going to happen, Stu, when, I mean, Trump is sending, you know, feds into Portland now

because they're so out of control.

He He is, you know, the ICE thing we're not fooling around with.

And now they're investigating Antifa and its money sources.

That's not going to end well.

And I don't know for whom it's going to end worse.

I think it's going to probably be pretty ugly for everybody, but it's already ugly for what Antifa's doing, right?

Like that's not, that's, that's already an ongoing problem that does need to be dealt with.

You know, again, you can question,

and we have to see what the process is.

We've said this a thousand times.

You know, there are limits to federal power in these situations, and we have to make sure those limits are honored.

But quite clearly, this is a real problem.

Andy No can probably

attest to that more than anyone, as he was assaulted

in a brutal fashion over.

He probably has more information on Antifa than anybody else.

He is probably the world's expert

on this.

You know, when you think of Antifa, you would think that if they are anti-fascist,

one of their big things would be no digital ID,

but they don't really seem to be all over that for some strange reason.

It's weird.

Yeah, the digital ID thing is absolutely terrifying.

And they just said that you have to have it in England now or you won't be able to get a job.

This is their way of solving, you know, forget about the borders.

Yeah.

Forget about deporting people.

Forget about, you know, see, it's an island.

How hard is it to keep people from floating onto your island?

Forget about any of those things.

Instead, we need digital ID

because somehow or another,

they're going to care about having a digital ID card.

And what this all is, honestly, this is about control.

100%

about power and control.

Yeah.

There also seems to be some real confusion as to what fascism is.

You know,

there are a lot of dictionary definitions we could get into, but can I give you what Joy Reed believes that it is?

Oh, I can't wait.

I think this is an interesting.

Joy Reed on the fascist agenda.

Quote: They want to take us back to no income tax, no regulations, earn what you want,

family inherits everything.

That's our definition of

fascism.

That's extreme freedom.

I mean,

how is that fascism?

You need a dictator to say, I'm not going to do anything.

You're all on your own.

You're all taking your own decision.

Anyway, you're right.

I'd celebrate that dictator.

I'm going to have no, you know, Hitler famous for having no regulations

on the nation of Germany.

Right.

Well, what?

This is complete.

They had complete control over every aspect of civilization.

That was fascism.

You remember the famous Nuremberg speech where he outlined the zero income tax philosophy?

These people are completely insane.

It's that thing that fascism and Nazi has just become anything they don't like.

And I guess at some level,

I'm excited that the progressives who brought us fascism, who brought us Nazism, I'm glad that

I just want to state what he just said,

look it up, is absolutely 100% correct.

Literal truth.

It came from

many roots inside the American progressive movement, as admitted by the Nazi leaders at the time, before they were even seen as these evil monsters.

They loved Roosevelt.

They loved him.

They loved Wilson.

And Wilson loved the fascistic movement that was just starting to bubble into the...

He loved communism.

He praised what was happening in 1919 in Russia.

He said that was finally a country we can work with who gets it.

Oh, okay.

I suppose at some level,

I'm happy that the everything

is bad

summary that we've decided to come up with is fascism and Nazism.

I'm glad they're just, you know,

because it was really bad.

The problem is it hides what it was.

I mean, now they are coming to this point where they think,

again, like no income tax, no regulations, earn what you want, family inherits everything.

I mean, they controlled the entire economy.

You know, yes, it was a slightly different remix of the communist version of that.

Yes, but they were very, very clear.

They just didn't own the economy.

Right.

They directed it.

The directors owned the companies.

They could lose it the minute they disagreed with the fascist dictator, but they controlled everything that company did.

And they controlled everything in the society.

I mean, this was, it's well known.

Like, the soup Nazi was because he was controlling of the soup.

It wasn't because he gave all the soup away for free and let you make whatever soup you wanted.

They called him the soup soup Nazi because they didn't think that if you did anything wrong, anything at all wrong, you would get no soup.

No soup for you.

Like how

it just gets so twisted in these people.

I mean, this is a woman who had a show for a decade on a major cable news network.

Now, a political show.

A political show in which she was trusted to give opinions about politics.

This is her opinion on what fascism is.

I mean, it's almost impossibly stupid.

Like, it's it's 100% the reverse of what it actually is, of what the truth is.

But again, that.

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I'm afraid to ask you this question.

I'm going to ask it, and then I want to take a one-minute break because

I just want to let go.

I want to have another minute without this answer floating out there.

What is the percentage of the American population that would listen to her and go, yep, that's fascism for you?

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Oh, I don't want to hear this answer.

I don't want to hear this answer.

What percentage of the American populace would listen to Joy Reed say, this is the kind of fascism they want?

No income tax, no regulation, and you can do and make what you want, and your kids and your family get to keep it after you die.

What percentage of our population believes that is fascism?

That's a very, it's a fascinating question.

And in my gut, it's just to kind of basically

say about half would be what I

right.

And I was like, well, I don't have any real basis for that.

Is there any way to actually look at this and try to come up with an answer that approximates this?

Because no one's polled the dumb, the stupidity of joy reed's comments from yesterday has not been polled yet but i did find a poll that asked uh is donald trump a fascist uh from 2024 and half of americans said yes

87 percent of democrats believe that donald trump is a fascist now

again this is

men who they also complain constantly about cutting regulations.

One of their big complaints about Donald Trump is that he cuts regulations all the time in crazy ways.

He wants this, what was it?

They used to call it

extreme capitalism, this extreme freedom that

they seem to hate so much.

87% believe that Donald Trump is a fascist.

So that's on the Democratic side.

Now,

if you are only listening to the New York Times and CNN and you know, Joy Reed.

Joy Reed.

I can understand that because they're not telling you what the Democrats did in the last four years.

They're not telling you the truth on any of that.

You know what I mean?

I come back to Riaz Patal, a good friend of ours, been a friend of the show for a long time.

He was as left as they come.

And in 2016, he went up because he could not believe these Trump supporters were like they were saying they were.

And he just needed to meet them and find out, why are you so racist?

And he went up to

the reddest place he could find, and he spent a week.

And he came back and he's like, that's not who they are.

That's not who they are at all.

That's not what they believe at all.

And he was confused.

And he came to the show and I sat with him at a chalkboard and I said, Let me just give you some stories.

See if you know any of these stories.

And I listed all of the big stories, like the IRS targeting tea party groups.

You remember that?

And I gave him like 20 stories and they were huge stories.

Never heard of them.

Never heard them at all.

He fact he said, those aren't, they can't be true.

They can't be true.

And I'm like, here's the story on page 38 of the New York Times.

It was just never made into a big deal by your side.

And so you didn't hear it.

And I know those stories exist on our side as well, but

not, I don't think to the degree that is happening on the left.

So you can kind of see, you know, for instance, I talked to Jonathan Haidt the other day and he said, you know, I'm very concerned that Donald Trump is becoming an authoritarian when it comes to the Justice Department because he's targeting his political enemies.

And it took everything in me not to say, are you out of your mind?

You are going to say that somebody who agrees with the Democrats is going to say that to me?

You remember?

And I didn't.

I said, how did you get there?

What do you mean by that?

And he said, well, I mean, you don't want a, I mean, that's fascism, Glenn.

You don't want a president to be able to say, and I said, I am with you 110%.

I don't want this president, the last president, or any president, ever to be able to say to the Justice Department, this is my enemy.

Find the dirt on him.

Find the laws that we can prosecute him on.

I don't want that.

And I said, and I'll stand up against that.

And he said, so don't you think that's what's happening?

And I said, no, why do you?

And he said, well, because he said, if you won't prosecute this guy, then you're fired.

And I said, no, that's not what he said.

It went to a grand jury.

Out of the three different

three different charges, the grand jury found him

ready to be prosecuted on two.

And then this guy wasn't making a decision.

And Donald Trump said, make a decision.

You're running out of time, the statute of limitations.

You're either going to prosecute or you're not, but make a decision one way or another.

Don't let this time just run out.

And he wouldn't make a decision.

So Trump replaced him.

I don't think that's fascistic.

I think that's reasonable.

I mean, and

even if you have questions about that, which I know, I think there are some honest people on the left that would have questions over some of the stuff that's going on in

Department of Justice.

I think Jonathan Haidt is one of them.

I love Jonathan Haidt and his books.

What you guys, I know, spent most of the time on was

the harm that cell phones are doing to our kids and all those things, which is

vitally important.

So there's a really important conversation you're going to have.

So to focus on this one part is not to mislead you on the actual podcast.

But

one of the things that's frustrating, I think, to most people about that is we do remember they tried to put Donald Trump in prison for like 9,000 made-up things.

You might even found one of the charges legitimate, right?

But like

all of them.

There's no way you can argue.

They tried to wipe him out financially.

They tried to come after him in multiple different ways.

The Alvin Bragg stuff was completely absurd.

And that's the actual president of the United States while he was running to be reelected.

Like, I can understand how you have issues with this.

And I have concerns over some of it as well on both sides when it comes to this because i think there is a a con you know when you go down this road of just wanting to persecute and prosecute your enemies that that can lead to a place that is problematic it's not always that way usually it usually does lead to a banana republic it certainly can right like i mean i was thinking about like the you know you're talking about james comey like how is the james comey thing any different than scooter libby back in the day?

I don't think it's any different.

I don't love either.

Like, I think we had what I would argue was this mostly unspoken, mostly respected truce between these two parties, which basically amounted to,

unless it's really egregious, if the person's on the other side, let's just move on.

And I don't know that that's the best way to run a civilization, but like it is a thing that I think existed in this country most of the time.

You don't get to keep that after you try to throw the president of the United States in prison 10,000 times.

I'm sorry.

Like, it's just, of course, it dissolved.

Of course, you don't have that protection anymore.

Of course, that's all gone.

And, you know, I think most people who voted for Donald Trump look at it and say, well, yeah, this is exactly what I voted for because they were doing this to us and now we have to do this to them.

That was the best way to do things.

What they did to us, I thought, was unconstitutional.

I do not want to ever cross that line.

I don't care what they did.

You violate the Constitution.

I'm no longer on your side.

But I don't think he is at all.

I don't think he's even

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Jason Buttrill joins us.

I asked Jason earlier today to watch

the Pete Hagseth

meeting or speech in front of all of the military leaders.

I think he brought them in to

show them how deadly serious the changes at the Pentagon

are going to be.

They changed it from the Department of Defense to the Department of War to show that we are a war machine.

That is our job to break things and kill people.

We don't want to, but when we have to, that's what we have to be the best in the world at.

And when I was watching this, it was so full of common sense and things that I would think if I were a soldier,

I would have wanted to hear a long time ago.

In fact, he said, you know,

this is not the Pentagon that you dreamt about serving in when you were young.

You didn't join the army to do this.

He said, we're getting back to what it really is.

And I thought it was really powerful.

It seemed really important, but I only saw bits and pieces.

Jason just watched the entire thing.

Jason Buttrell joins me now.

What are your thoughts, Jason?

Wow, Glenn, I did not understand the reason for not just doing this on a Zoom call, or I didn't see the point really in bringing them all in until I saw this.

Holy crap.

This is the message is clear.

I mean, it is

very clear that American military power is back.

It's lethal.

It's deadly.

It's every single reason why men and women put on the uniform and go to defend their country.

I haven't seen a military speech like that outside of a movie or.

You know, it's so funny.

I saw when, because he was standing in front of a giant flag.

And the last time I saw this, it was done with somebody in a uniform.

He wasn't in a uniform, was from the movie Patton.

Yeah.

And it kind of felt like that, kind of felt like one of those that you're like, yes,

you know, but the audience was very quiet.

I don't know how they related to it.

But that's how you felt too?

Yeah.

There was like one time when I heard a few people,

you know, cheering in the crowd, but I guarantee you, these are not guys that are supposed to cheer in situations like that.

But all of them, I can't, okay, I won't say all of them.

Probably 99% of them were going insane.

They wanted a mosh pit and they wanted to crowdsurf.

That's how excited they are.

I guarantee you that's how they felt.

What was it that he said that would cause the military leaders to do that?

Oh, man.

Well, I mean, let's start off with, this was a complete, this wasn't just a speech.

This was a complete realignment of the way that the military has been ran over, I would say, over a decade.

A complete realignment.

And yeah, longer than that.

We talked about it yesterday on just some of the things we thought they were going to talk about.

They actually, combined with his speech and the president's speech, they actually covered every single thing that we talked about yesterday.

But Hegseth's portion was just the most exciting to me because now they're talking about just doing away with all the DEI crap, all the stuff they were focused on.

They're switching completely to lethality and being a deadly fighting military force.

And we just haven't heard that.

It's been...

dressed up in politically correct garbage.

All the politically correct garbage is getting tossed out the window.

But not only that, they're focusing on change and how to, you know, as Bruce Lee would say, to be like water with, you know, the direction of how defense tactics and how, you know, the way the way modern defensive capability is going.

That's the direction we're going.

He said he's going to be making additional speeches that are going to cover infrastructure, supply chain changes.

I mean, this is music to our ears.

Everything we need to do to harden down in case an actual huge conflict breaks out, we will be ready for.

And I guarantee you, with this Department of War, with this Secretary of War, and with this president, we will be ready.

It might take a couple years to fix the damage, but now, not only we, but all the military leaders that have been frustrated for over a decade, now they can feel confident in where we're going.

And this is just amazing, Glenn.

It's absolutely amazing.

To me, this makes total sense and is in line with everything that Donald Trump says he's doing.

Remember, the world as we know it was set up at Bretton Woods.

It was our financial,

everything.

After World War II, everything was decided on how we were going to behave economically and militarily.

In 1962, I think it was,

a

Carol,

Carol Quinby, Carol,

I can't remember his last name, but he was a Harvard professor and he wrote Tragedy and Hope.

And he was an insider, and he had been advising presidents, you know, from

Truman all the way up to Nixon.

But in 1962, he was banned, and everybody looked the other way because he wrote this book, and he said, look, I've been part of this, and I'm so excited.

We're going to get rid of war

because we have now tied our economic systems so tightly together that we will only have police actions.

There will never be an all-out war.

We'll use economic sanctions and both sides will pay a price and there won't be any of these big, big changes anymore.

And he was right.

That is exactly what happened.

And so the changes that Donald Trump is making, he's going back to the Bretton Woods stuff and he's saying, look, that was for that era.

That doesn't work anymore.

And it hasn't worked for years.

You know, when you look at Carol

Quilby, I can't remember his last name, I'm sorry.

But when you look at what he wrote, that was basically putting the State Department as the boss of the Department of Defense.

They would do work.

The Department of Defense and the soldiers would start doing work to, you know, democratize the world and bring peace and everything else.

It was a total flip.

And in the little that I heard Hagseth do today,

it sounds to me that this is the next massive step in what Donald Trump is going to be remembered for.

People don't understand it yet.

He is resetting the entire structure of the world, completely redoing it.

And he's doing it not just

with our foreign policy.

He's now doing it inside our own government.

And he's making those changes in the Department of War to say, look, this is what we do.

This is the tool you are.

You kill people and break things.

If I wanted to have peace, I'm going to go someplace else.

If somebody wants to

have war with us, we're going to kill them quickly and we're going to say it was not going on for 20 years.

It's going to last in 18 months and it's over and it will be decisive.

That's a whole

change to the entire global system.

It's why they hate him so much at the United Nations.

I'm convinced of it.

Yeah, what you're talking about was echoed by geopolitical analysts all over the world.

I think his name was Francis Fukushima, who wrote what was at the end of history,

talked about that as being, you know, we're done.

You know, all war is over, and now it's just economic.

Just like you said, kind of putting the State Department and other organizations that are in charge of American defense.

One of the crazy things is one of his students, Samuel Huntington, wrote a kind of like a kind of like a rebuke of that.

And he wrote A Clash of Civilizations, which basically said, no, no, no, no, no, we need to be very careful because future wars will be civilizational.

Which is what we're headed for.

Exactly what he predicted is what we're headed for.

Clash of civilizations.

Look at Europe.

Look at the United States right now.

Look how war is being waged on us.

And we're not even concentrated on it.

And the president.

pretty much addressed that, as you pointed out, where he was like, for far too long, we've been focused on providing trillions of dollars, focusing on places like Somalia or places like that.

He actually called a couple of countries out.

He says we shouldn't even be out and doing some of these things.

He said, look, we need to look at our own hemisphere.

Again, this is something that we pointed out yesterday that we were hoping they would actually mention.

They did.

He did.

The president did.

This is a complete different realignment of what the threats are against the United States.

and addressing them and being prepared to combat them.

And I tell you, I still got goosebumps from the entire thing.

I now see why they decided to call all the men and do that.

I mean, not only is the military on notice, I think the military is relieved, but now our enemies are on notice.

It was kind of funny, the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, said that to our, he actually turned to the camera and addressed our enemies.

And he goes, and to our enemies, and he said the acronym F-A-F-O.

And then that's when everyone's that was the point where a few people started cheering.

And he goes, if you need help with translating that, just ask a few of your enlisted guys.

But I was like,

it's on.

It's on.

The president also said yesterday that they were going to be looking at new technology.

Did they talk at all about new technology?

So vaguely, they did.

So vaguely, they talked about new directions that they need to be going in.

He was very vague with it, but he also mentioned another follow-on speech on some of the things that they're going to be focused on.

So that's definitely part of it.

That was part of it.

But I think we're going to be getting more details on that.

But not only new technology, but how we're going to manufacture them and how we're going to supply the manufacturing entities within the United States.

And it's all going to be, it sounds like homegrown so that we're not reliant upon other countries.

I mean, they included everything in this speech, Glenn.

It was amazing.

I mean, I'm not a military guy, but I have to tell you,

when I hear stuff like that, I'm like, finally,

finally, somebody is to, because we all know the answers.

We really do.

We know the answers to most of these problems.

You want to fix the economy.

Stop spending so much money.

Get your budget under control.

How do we do that?

It's not that hard.

You could get 10 citizens pulled randomly and you could pull them out, as long as they're not college professors.

Just pull them out of their jobs and say, hey, this or that, this or that, this or that.

And you could cut, you could slash so much.

Nobody is going to say they want sex changes for frogs

studied in Africa.

Nobody is going to say that.

And it's all such common sense.

And it's so nice to see common sense play a role because it hasn't in a very, very long time.

Thanks, Jason.

I appreciate it.

By the way, tomorrow I'm going to talk a little bit about Digital ID.

And I want to take you to India on Digital ID and show you what happened there.

I mean, this is a real threat to America and to freedom all over the world.

China already has it, and we know what that is.

Now

it's coming to the West, and it already came to China.

What are the other countries?

China, not Japan, Australia.

Switzerland just voted on it.

Australia, South Korea.

Yeah, it's really bad.

It's really bad.

And

it's not about anything other than complete control.

And we'll show you all about that on tomorrow's broadcast.

Jason, thank you so much.

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Let me take J.D.

Vance here on the coming shutdown of the government today.

We just had a very frank conversation with the Senate and House Democratic leadership.

Look, the principle at stake here is very simple.

We have disagreements about tax policy, but you don't shut that government down.

We have disagreements about health care policy, but you don't shut the government down.

You don't use your policy disagreements as leverage to not pay our troops, to not have essential services of government actually function.

You don't say the fact that you disagree about a particular tax provision is an excuse for shutting down the people's government and all the essential services that come along with it.

If you look at what Chuck Schumer has said in the past consistently, it's whatever our disagreements are, let's negotiate with them, let's talk about them, let's figure out a bipartisan solution, but you don't shut the government down.

In other words, you don't put a gun to the American people's head and say, unless you do exactly what Senate and House Democrats want you to do, we're going to shut down your government.

That's exactly what they're proposing out there.

Now, we have to remember, they're very frustrated.

They say that they're very frustrated about the fact that this negotiation has not taken place until today.

But if you look at

the original thing they did with this negotiation, it was a 1.5 trillion dollar spending package basically saying to the American people we want to give massive amounts of money hundreds of billions of dollars to illegal aliens for their health care while Americans are struggling to pay their health care bills that was their initial foray into this negotiation we thought it was absurd we told them it was absurd and now they come in here

saying that if you don't give us everything that we you that we want we're going to shut down the government.

We think that's preposterous.

We think it's totally unacceptable.

And we think the American people are going to suffer because these guys won't do the right thing.

Now, I want to make one final point here.

You will hear a lot from Senate Democrats, from House Democrats about the fact that American health care policy is broken.

Well, we know that American health care policy is broken.

We've been trying to fix it for the eight months that we've been in office, but every single thing that they accuse about being broken about American health care is policy the Democrats have supported for the past decade.

So if they want to talk about how to fix American health care policy, let's do it.

The Speaker would love to do it.

The Senate Majority Leader would love to do it.

Let's work on it together.

But let's do it in the context of an open government that's providing essential services to the American people.

That's all that we're proposing to do.

And the fact that they refuse to do that shows how unreasonable their position is.

I think we're headed to a shutdown because the Democrats won't do the right thing.

I hope they change their mind, but we're going to see.