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I just got back from Washington, D.C.

I met with Rubio and Mike Pence and some senators yesterday.

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JD Vance.

Sorry, JD.

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How are you?

Very well, Glenn.

Back after a very quick trip.

Yeah, very quick trip to Washington there and back.

And I have to tell you, I mean, listen to my voice.

I am like tired from it.

The president went over on Sunday, conducted all of that business, got back on Air Force One,

flew all the way back.

He said he flew back because he needed to do this on Charlie's birthday.

He said he was going to delay it, and then he realized, oh, it's Charlie's birthday.

It's got to be done on his birthday.

So he flew all the way back.

You know how much sleep he had in the 36 hours?

No.

Zero.

Everybody else on the plane had about an hour and a half.

Because if you're working for the president, when he's up, you're up.

And they were zombies.

Everybody was zombies.

And he was, I don't know how this guy does it.

I mean, he doesn't take any drugs.

He doesn't take, you know, he, no, nothing non-natural goes into this guy's body.

And I mean, there's certain products at McDonald's that do go down the body.

Okay, yeah, go down the gun.

Yes, yes, you're right.

You're right.

Okay.

You can't say that.

Yeah.

No stimulants go into his body.

Okay, all right, yeah.

He's RFK Jr.

Okay, but considering he does not drink, he does not

take drugs, drugs, he's very much against that stuff.

Yeah, very much.

I mean, just good genetics, I think.

The guy does not sleep.

He just doesn't sleep.

Is that concerning for long-term health?

I mean, guy's 79 years old.

For everybody else, but he's been this his whole life.

I mean, this is the way he's operated his whole life.

So I don't think so.

I think it's just the way he is.

He just doesn't need very much sleep.

But the guy is changing the world.

I mean, you remember

we were watching

when he arrived in Egypt.

And I said, I've never seen this before.

I'll have to narrow this down for you because I say that several times a day now.

But you know how they always, when the world leaders get together, they always stand on a stage to get one shot.

And once in a while, they'll stand on stage as they're assembling and they'll talk amongst themselves.

But I've never seen a photo line with world leaders to take a picture one-on-one with the president.

Never seen that in my life.

That's what was happening on Monday in Egypt.

He was two hours late.

And apparently, and I'm not going to divulge who, but apparently one person was upset.

It was like, I'm not waiting around for this.

and yet they waited around for it um and uh they lined up even the king of saudi arabia was in the line waiting in the line for 30 minutes while he took photos with all of the leaders around the world they are treating him i mean he's changed the world the guy knows how to use power

It's my understanding from conversations that I had piecing some things together.

It's my understanding.

Vladimir Putin has changed with him too.

Even Putin has

noticed

this is the guy who's kind of steering the world

and is more deferential to Donald Trump.

And I hope that's true.

I hope that begins to play out with Ukraine.

It's quite key to understand who you're speaking with, right?

Like it's not always about what you want to say or what you want.

It's about what the other person wants and what they understand.

Someone made the point that Donald Trump Trump speaks Arabic better than any native speaker.

And I thought that was an interesting comment.

It's like, you know, it is a

he seems to be able to communicate to the leaders in that part of the world.

They understand strength.

They understand it, yeah, and they react to it.

And I think they don't see him as a a passing, like, oh, he's here, but, you know, just wait him out.

Like, they don't think he's going to change or he's going to fold on the stuff.

And they think that he's changing the world and everybody who follows him is going to follow in these footsteps.

They don't think that this is just, he's got

three more years left and then Kamala comes back.

They don't think that.

They think it's changed for good.

They think it's changed for good.

And they think that I believe they think J.D.

Vance is going to be the next

president.

And I think so, too.

I mean,

he's certainly the favorite of the Republican Party.

Yeah,

he's killing it.

But then again, I mean, I saw Marco Rubio yesterday.

He listens to the show and his wife listens to every word of the show.

I'm like,

I hope you've noticed that we really like what Marco's doing.

I mean, the guy has, and I said to him, I said, Marco,

what happened?

And he's like, what?

And I said, you know, we've always been a fan of yours.

I mean, we interviewed him for the first time.

Do you remember the first time we interviewed him when he was running for president?

The very first time?

Yeah, yeah.

And we all got into a car, you, me and Pat, we got into a car and we did a video.

We're like, this guy is amazing.

He's great.

Yeah.

Really liked him.

Right.

Really liked him.

And then he kind of got into the Senate and was kind of, I don't know, hard to pin down.

I don't know what happened to him.

And he immediately said, it's the president.

And I said,

the president is leading, yes.

But there's a change in you.

You are just killing it.

Just killing it.

Should we jump in here for one quick sidebar of the current odds to win the presidential election in 2028?

Yeah.

Okay.

So first, first place, this is according to Calci, a 32% chance, J.D.

Vance.

A second place, 21% chance,

Gavin Newsom.

Oh, my gosh.

Third place,

I mean, again, this is a prediction markets, what people believe are going to happen.

You know, there's a lot of, this isn't an official poll or anything.

Third place, 7%

Alexandria Casio-Cortez.

In third place.

In third place.

Comically, fourth place is also with 7%, actually, is Donald J.

Trump.

You may have heard of him.

He's currently the president of the United States.

So that would be an interesting constitutional amendment that would need to occur for that to happen.

Then you have Pete Budigej, Marco Rubio at 4%.

Josh Shapiro, Kamala Harris, Wes Moore of Maryland, Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Andy Bashir, Kentucky.

Okay, so it's way too early.

3%.

It's way too early.

Glenn Youngkin, 2%.

I'm looking at any of Republican.

Oh, I thought.

Right.

Glenn Youngpin.

I thought you were going to say Glenn Beck because then that would start to make sense.

Everybody that's

putting their money down is insane.

Yeah.

Again, I would not be betting on that market right now.

No, I would not either.

But I mean,

he is on top of it.

And honestly, we're going to need somebody who operates

like Donald Trump and can keep the Republic,

keep the Republic, keep the Constitution, because we're going to head for some really very difficult times, very difficult times.

But anyway, back to the Charlie Kirk thing.

It was very, very nice.

Erica is, you know, really gaining her voice.

Only towards the end was she really kind of breaking down, but she was very good.

The president was so gracious yesterday with everybody.

I mean, he is really an amazing man.

But it's funny because I have a picture of the two of us by the oval, outside of the oval.

You open up the oval office door and you walk out.

Yeah, there it is.

I have a picture of us, and he's right there.

He's pointing

to the rose garden.

And I said, you know, the worst thing that I think anybody's done to a first lady was done to Melania.

I said, they did so many bad things, but one of them is this rose garden.

I said, if I'm not mistaken, she just took Jackie O's exact plans and redid them.

And he said, yes, yes.

and I said I can't believe how dishonest the press is they just want to destroy you and they'll go after your wife on that it's restoring the Jackie oh plan

and

and in their press coverage they were like this offensive Jackie oh would be no she would be happy it was her plan anyway he said yeah I'm gonna pave over this And I'm like, oh my gosh,

you're going to what?

And he said, no, they're going to be nice pavers, but, you know, I'm going to pave over this.

And he said, because it's useless.

He said, it's grass.

So women come and they stand and they're on their, you know, in heels and they're sinking into the grass.

It's usually wet.

He said, we, we, we need to be able to hold events out here.

And he said, and it'd be beautiful.

It'd be unlike anything anybody's ever seen.

So he starts yesterday and he comes out and he said, this is the first time.

He said, I just, I just put these pavers down.

And he said, this is the first event in the Rose Garden with these pavers.

And it's absolutely beautiful.

It's got like flags, you know, on the corner.

They have these special flagstones made and really, really, it's beautiful.

All the press was standing in the back.

And I haven't heard word one from the press on this.

Not word one.

Have you heard anything about what he's done to the

rose garden?

I did see some plans.

Are these accurate plans where they were going to build kind of another giant building on the property?

Is that

going to happen?

Oh, yeah.

He's paying for it all.

He's doing it all.

It's a big ballroom.

He's like, the country needs a ballroom.

You know, we have these state dinners.

He said, we put them on the grass.

And, you know, he said, we need a ballroom.

And he said, taxpayers don't want to pay for a ballroom.

I'll pay for it.

So he's building it.

It'll be done.

He said by 2026,

sometime early spring 2026.

I'll believe it when I see it, but he tends to get things done quickly.

But the one thing I also noticed is the security perimeter of the White House is astounding.

It's at least doubled.

Now you don't go into that park.

You can go into the park, but you can only go in

certain places in the park.

But I think they're moving the perimeter for security perimeter at least a block around it, all the way around.

That makes perfect sense.

Obviously, in this environment, it was the first time I've seen the president in many months outside without bulletproof glass between us.

I mean,

he stood outside, you know, trees in the area, buildings in the area, and he was safe outside.

And it must be weird to live in that kind of bubble, you know, but it was, it was amazing.

It was amazing.

They're, they're really doing a good job.

And the, the, the thing,

the entire

ceremony,

the guy just knows, I mean, he's just a showman.

He just knows how to do things like this, except somebody had hijacked, I mean, I think he had hijacked the music

like 10 minutes before he comes out.

It's like, you know, Abba, Dancing Queen, is playing the Rose Garden.

It was a little, it was a little, but then it stopped.

And

you could tell just, you could tell when he actually picked the music.

And I can guarantee you, he picked it.

Oh, and I was in.

Remember, I told you last time I was in the White House.

I told you that he had selected all of these paintings of all of the presidents and he put them strategically.

And when I was with him last, he said, I don't know what to do with this guy.

And he had up in the hallway kind of stuffed in a corner of the residence the painting of

Eisenhower.

And I said, Eisenhower was the one who warned about everything you're dealing with right now.

I said, go back and read the industrial, you know, military industrial complex speech.

He talks about education and science and everything else.

I said,

he should be in your walk because he he said, I put all of the paintings down strategically.

So when I turn a corner, I see a face of somebody.

It reminds me, learn,

don't forget the lesson from him.

Now you come down out of the residence and you turn that first corner, and he's moved the picture of Eisenhower.

So the first president that he sees as he comes down the stairs is Eisenhower.

It's pretty cool.

It's interesting.

Do you think people see Donald Trump as a guy who thinks that way?

No, but that's what they miss.

That's what they miss.

He's really strategic in everything he does.

I mean,

he really knows, choose your thoughts.

And so he's always, you come down the stairs and he's looking at Abraham Lincoln.

He turns that corner and he's now looking

at

Eisenhower.

Every time he turns a corner,

there's a Ronald Reagan.

You know, there's George Washington.

He's always turning the corners and looking at people to remind him.

He's a very thoughtful guy, really thoughtful, because he knows, choose your thoughts, and

that will move your life forward in that direction.

He seems to have

a more complete understanding of history now, too.

Would you say that the second term?

Oh, my gosh.

You might have that first term, obviously, like a business guy.

And he didn't know at that point, probably.

No, his learning curve is almost straight up.

The guy doesn't sleep.

So I was talking to, I think, Ambassador Crowley, and she said that

she said she walked in, you know, in the middle of the night.

Everybody's trying to get some shut eye.

And she said, he's in his office with stacks of books and papers, and he's just

digesting all of this stuff.

She said he's up all night just reading.

and getting stuff done.

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What are your thoughts on the Politico story, Stu?

There's a story in Politico about the

young Republicans.

Some of it is very disturbing.

Some of it, I just, I think it's just stupid kids making really bad jokes.

You know,

you know,

I think there is a mix.

I think you're right.

Some of it is really

bad.

Really bad.

Some of it is just, you know,

jokes that are just trying to be dark.

At least that's what I hope it is.

yeah i think some of it quite clearly is uh some of it is is really bad you know again some some of the people in there are saying that they don't think these are authentic messages as well it's worth at least noting i don't know if that's accurate or not here's an idea don't post anything like that first of all don't ever ever post anything like that and if you see people posting like that make sure you're on the record that's not cool man don't do that it's not cool yeah i i think there is a

there's some people in there that just seem like actual racists um oh yeah there's some people Well, they exist.

Yeah, certainly.

Some people in there who just seem like they're trying to make dark jokes and trying to be edgy.

And that's a very common

instinct for young, particularly young males, I would say, that think they need to be the edgiest and the toughest.

I'm a tough guy and like, and all that stuff.

And like, you know, it doesn't always manifest itself this way, thankfully, but it is a pretty common, dumb thing that young people do.

You shouldn't do it.

You know, you really shouldn't put it in writing, especially.

I mean, I'd never hire any of these people.

I would not get close to any of these people.

Yeah.

I do think that

what they're trying to make out of this is a little ridiculous.

I mean, these are basically a bunch of

people and they're

glorified interns for young Republican groups saying bad things.

Like, that's not good.

And there is a sign of an underbelly

of the very online

fringy right that

this sort of stuff is happening in.

And I think

it's a growing problem and a bad problem.

However, let's not overstate what's going on here.

These are people that have absolutely no effect on your life.

Would Jay Jones were talking about a person who wants to be the attorney general of a state?

By the way, who wasn't even doing it among friends.

He wasn't joking about this among friends.

He was talking about this to someone on the other side who continually said, I don't like

when you say these things, put up a fight

and said, I know you're serious.

You keep saying this over and over again, even when I tell you to stop.

Like, that is a totally different set.

It's a total distraction technique for the left, right?

They are looking for something to try to reverse the flow of what's going on in Virginia.

And I get that as a political tactic.

This is probably a good way to go, as good as any other thing they have to go to.

But while it does indicate, I think, an issue, it is not significant to really anyone's life.

But I am concerned, and

I talked to J.D.

Vance about this yesterday.

He is concerned as well about this

growing anger

on the right with disenfranchised men and concerned about where this is coming from, what is pushing it, because Once you get into blind anger,

everything changes.

Yeah, you know, and I,

first of all, I totally agree with what you just said.

I think that is a real problem.

Secondarily, what I read in those messages was not blind anger.

It was flippant, at times racism, at times anti-Semitism, at times just people making dark jokes about like trying to be edgy.

And, you know, some of it was even, there was one joke in there, if I can't remember the exact context.

It was something that someone made a joke of like, oh, we don't want to get a Hitler in there.

And the response was, well, we're going to lose the Kansas delegation then.

Like, that's a joke at the expense of Kansas, right?

Like, that's not

a joke.

You know, I don't know.

At least that's how I read it.

At the end of the day,

this is

like it is a story.

And I think there is a tie

to something that is concerning.

The fact that there's a bunch.

We highlight and talk about people on the left that are constantly

on October 7th, people

in the squares all over New York City celebrating the Infotada.

Yeah.

Intifada.

Intifada.

Intifada.

Yes, I get it back.

One of them's a frittata.

It's an egg dish.

I get it.

My point is, the frittata, they were all out there talking about the frittata.

This is something that was happening on October 7th with thousands of people and like the total shoulder shrug from everybody in the mainstream media.

The fact that there are a couple of lunatics that were making bad jokes and saying at times really legitimately bad racist and anti-Semitic things is a concern.

It's just not a concern anywhere near the level of the things we talk about 10, 15, 20 times a day.

Here's things that they deny exist.

Correct.

Here's the thing that

I am concerned about that we need to watch with the disenfranchised youth.

I don't know if you remember, but in early September, the 4th through the 9th, in Nepal,

the government decided that they were going to ban 26 media platforms,

the social platforms, because there was a problem.

And there's corruption and the people were starting to stand up against it.

And it was mainly the youth, the Gen Z people.

And so the students went to Discord and Instagram groups

and they

started protesting, marching on the streets, and a full-fledged Gen Z, now listen to this, a full-fledged Gen Z,

flagless, leaderless digital revolution happened in Nepal.

Full regime change.

Okay.

First leaderless digital revolution.

Madagascar was next and just ended.

What's the date today?

14th?

15th?

Yesterday.

Just ended yesterday.

Again, the same thing happened, organized by Gen Z Madagascar, a Facebook group.

They used exactly the same techniques in Nepal.

It just

ended yesterday, full regime change.

Okay.

Gen Z,

leaderless.

Does that sound familiar to leaderless?

Who's leaderless in the country?

No, clearly.

Yeah, it's not even an organization.

I know,

I know.

It doesn't even exist.

Mozambique, the same.

Indonesia going on now.

Kenya going on now.

Morocco Morocco going on now.

This is another attempt at the Arab Spring, which was again a leaderless group that changed the Middle East.

This is happening, and it is led by angry Gen Z.

And it has to be, Gen Z

has to not be silenced.

They have to be listened to.

We have to recognize that especially the men in Gen Z, the young men, they don't feel like they have a future.

They don't, I mean,

you know, they can play by the rules, go to school, but then what?

They're going to work, you know, for a job that they hate that probably is not going to be there in a few years.

They just don't feel like they have a future.

And the left is doing everything they can to convince them that everything is stacked against them.

And it's not.

Everything is actually stacked in your favor right now for the first time.

We never had, dude, Stu, did we ever feel we had the power to change things in Washington, D.C.

growing up?

To scale?

I didn't think we had it until Donald Trump got in.

Hmm.

That's an interesting question.

I mean, I guess you had those moments of hoping that you can change things.

Correct.

But things are changing now.

Remember how hard it was for the Tea Party?

Things are changing now.

And that is part of social media.

It's it's part because we all worked hard and we were waking people up and now is not the time to lose hope in the future now is the time to gain hope in the future there is a lot of amazing things that are changing right now um and you can be a part of it and we have to be a part of it you know it's it's the ones who are on the streets telling you you can't do it uh you know everything's stacked against you um you'll never make it because the authoritarians are out to get you i got news for you there are authoritarians on both sides.

There are authoritarians that want to control your life, but you're going to have to sign up for that.

They're going to need you to sign up for it.

It's like the digital passports.

If you decide, if the countries over in Europe decide, no, we're not going to do that, the government, what are they going to do?

They're going to lock everybody up?

You just have to be aware of what your lines are and what you're willing to do and not willing to do and then recognize that you as a group a big group if we can grow this group large enough they need your permission to do these things why why didn't we have the patriot act you know in 1990 what was it seven that thing was written we didn't have it it wouldn't pass congress all of that legislation was written before september 11th they wanted all of those tools before september 11th it wouldn't pass because the people wouldn't give permission they waited for a crisis The crisis happened and they were like, dust that thing off.

Patriot Act, rename it, Patriot Act.

They renamed it the Patriot Act and we gave them permission to do it.

We have to stop giving them permission to do these things in our name.

And that's how you change things, but not by getting bitter and angry.

That is what's going to cause bloodshed on the streets.

And that's what causes

the theory I've talked about for a long time

bottom up, top down, and inside out.

They put

people up at the top that are willing to propose

draconian measures, put them at the top, then they cause the street to rise up and they have all of their people in the streets.

This is called a revolution.

They get everybody on their, all their crazies in the street to rise up to threaten the government.

Then the government has to respond to that because the people are going, you can't, we can't live like this anymore.

The government responds.

If it is a government that is not with the street people, they immediately say it's a dictatorship.

If it is a government with the people on the street, if it was a democratic government and they were causing all this trouble, the government would come down, not punish any of those people per se.

And they wouldn't say it was a dictatorship, but it would be a dictatorship.

And then everything is turned inside out.

And the Constitution is lost and all of that.

You have to know that's the game being played on you.

This is a giant psyop that is happening on the American people.

And if you're aware of it, it loses its power.

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We got to get him on the air.

This guy's fascinating.

He wrote probably his most famous book is The Bell Curve,

where he talks about what the problem is in America, how the elites and the middle class are separating.

And this is back in the 1980s.

And he showed that, you know, back in the 1950s, you know, people married in different classes, et cetera, et cetera.

So there could be somebody who went to Harvard marrying somebody who didn't go to college at all.

And now everybody is kind of congregating, you know, the Ivy League marries Ivy League, et cetera, et cetera.

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Reconsidering God or something?

Taking religion seriously, I think it's called.

Yes, taking religion seriously.

He said

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Charles Murray says this has happened to him for much of his life.

And he is, in his new book, Taking Religious Seriously,

he said he was one of the well-educated and successful people who religion had just become irrelevant.

But all of that changed.

And he began to kind of, he said, tiptoe towards religiosity with a series of nudges.

And it is eventually now toppled all of the things he used to believe in.

about religion.

And there is a big change happening in the world.

It's not just here in America, but there is, you know, I think Charlie Kirk made us all aware of this and pushed it down the road a great distance.

But there is a real awakening that is happening in America and in the rest of the world.

And I think that is a very, very good thing.

If it is happening in your life, please pursue it.

Please pursue it.

You know, yeah,

in most cases, yeah.

You know, I will say, um,

Sundays,

you know, like if you're going to come to Jesus, come together in a carpool situation because the parking situation is getting ridiculous at church.

It's too far.

I don't want to walk that far.

So if you're coming to one of Jesus, come in a group and maybe a minivan, rent a minivan.

What about don't you go to one of those mega churches that have the little like the little Disney cars that I know, but uh, but they they I mean, I'm I'm open to that.

Yeah.

I mean, if someone wants to go to the city, I've gone to a couple of mega churches

because Tanya and I will sometimes go to church on Saturday as well as Sunday.

We go to another church.

And we go to this with some friends.

We go to this church and they've got these little trams.

It's fantastic.

Like you get out of the car, the tram's there.

You don't want to walk.

I'm like, nope.

Jesus wouldn't want me to walk.

He was the one walking on water.

He can get in the tram.

Right.

I get in the tram.

He can do all that walking and stuff.

Yeah.

So please, you know,

there's only it's warm here still in Texas.

Uh, there's only so much walking and sweating I want to do.

I was really excited for your transition and everything.

But, like, you know,

you sound like a great greeter.

You know what I mean?

Did you come in a minivan?

Do it next time, or we don't want you here.

Great church greeters, thank you very much.

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Do you have them?

You know, hold on to them tightly, please.

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Good for you.

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He's going to show us the alleged foreign influences behind Mamdani's campaign for mayor in New York City.

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Great to be with you, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

Okay, so

Mom Dani, this is not a stunning update, except it is kind of stunning because now you have verified it.

Tell me what you found on the funding for Mom Dani.

Yeah, well, so here's the interesting thing people forget.

New York is, of course, an international city, but the world is watching.

The Hezbollah publication Al-Kandik

had an article on Mamdani talking about the fact that this guy could win mayor of New York, and if he wins Mayor of New York, that could propel him to the national stage, including he could become secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

Why a terrorist organization would mention Homeland Security is interesting, but their point is correct, Glenn, that the world is watching.

So you have the royal family of Qatar, the Alphani family,

which not only has bankrolled the Mamdanis to the tune of millions of dollars on film projects that his mother has done, they're out on social media around the world pushing for Mamdani's campaign.

And Mamdani actually in September, think about this, Glenn, he's running for mayor of New York.

He goes on Qatari TV.

He goes on TV in Qatar to talk about the fact that the United States is funding genocide in Israel, et cetera.

The bottom line is that he and his family are joined to the hip with the Qatari royal family.

And what you need to understand about the Qatari royal family is this is the same family that in the 1990s protected Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.

He was the mastermind behind the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

He was involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

He fled the United States.

He went to Qatar, where the same royal family gave him a no-show job working for the government and protected him.

And when Louis Free and the FBI came looking for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and said, we want this guy, the Alphani family, which of course is funding Mamdani back in the 1990s, they helped him escape the net of the FBI.

And Louis Free later said

in the early 2000s, had they gotten him, they could have prevented 9-11.

Okay, can I push back on this a bit?

You say the

Mamdani family is is tied to the hip, but isn't the Trump family also tied to the hip?

Well, yeah, I do not like what is going on with the Qataris at all.

What I would say, one important distinction, you know, when we're doing things like the air base in Idaho, which I think is a terrible idea, the Momdanis, unlike the Trumps and unlike the U.S.

federal government, completely, completely mimics what the Qatari foreign policy line is, which is anti-Israel,

pro-Hamas.

They line up completely on the policy positions.

In fact, the Mamdani

father

has said that terrorism is really a Western invention.

It has nothing to do with Islam.

He wrote a famous book on that in the 2000s.

Another thing he said, Glenn, and by the way, his son has not pushed back on this at all, that situations like what happened in Sudan with the massacre at Darfur, where 400,000 Christians were slaughtered by Islamists.

That's not genocide.

That was a civil war.

There was damage on both sides.

The point is that the Mundamis have been apologists in exactly the same way that the Qatari royal family has.

And that's what I think makes it so concerning.

But I mean, I could talk about Iran.

The International Quran News Agency, which is an Iranian news agency, has also run growing profiles on Mamdani and has said his campaign is Islamic in not only its messaging but also in its goals and in its ends.

You have Imam Wahaj who you have talked about before.

This is an Imam who has three adult children who are in jail for life.

for their involvement in the terrorist attacks.

Imam Wahaj has funded the Super PAC, which funded and is funding Mamdani's gubernatorial campaign.

And Imam Wahaj back in 2021 gave an interview where he predicted that there would be a rising figure who would become mayor of New York backed by Islamic voters.

So this is a global mayorial race.

And people in New York and people around the country better be aware the stakes are higher than just what happens in New York City.

Tell me about the CCP.

So the CCP, it's interesting.

They have been running very positive stories on Momdani.

I just posted on TwitterX yesterday a story from the Center for Marxism in China, which is, of course, a government-run entity, saying that the Momdani campaign is a bright spot in a very dark situation in the United States from their perspective.

But then you also have the interesting role of a guy named Roy Singham.

I talked about him.

In fact, you and I talked about him back in 2024.

Yeah, when my book Blood Money came out.

So Roy Singham runs something called the People's Forum in New York.

It is very radical left-wing.

Roy Singham, of course, American billionaire, lives in Beijing now, very close to the CCP,

attends CCP events.

Singha's People Forum has been very supportive of Mamdani's campaign.

And you also have Roy Singham's niece runs an organization called Jews for Mamdani.

Now,

she's actually not Jewish.

You see what's going on here.

You see what's going on here.

But the point is, Glenn, that the CCP shares the same interest that these other foreign actors have in seeing Mamdani win, because they see this as a foothold that they can establish in the United States.

And I would say to, and I have friends who basically have adopted the position, Glenn, you know, let New York fall, let let Mondomini get elected, it's going to be terrible.

People see how bad socialism is.

I'm telling you, Vimdonny wins, they're going to work the machineries of government so that they retain office, meaning this radical left, Islamist left-wing movement retain power in New York going forward.

You also expose that most of the donations that he is getting are from out like 78% of his money is coming from outside of New York.

I mean, the number one state contributing to his campaign is California.

Yes, that's right.

And that includes political action committees that are tied to care,

which, of course, you have reported on over the years, their ties to Hamas, their involvement in various Islamic causes.

And you also have news reports that have just been coming out that so far there are at least $13,000.

The number is going to be much higher, but $13,000 that have been identified so far of illegal foreign donations coming into the Mumdani campaign.

And the challenge here is, Glenn, we've seen this happen in the past with other candidates.

They wait until the last month because the reporting for donations will come out after the election.

So that number is going to be much higher.

And based on what you see the Alfani family doing on social media around the world,

boosting his campaign, I expect that number to be massively higher before it's all said and done.

So, Peter,

have you talked to Cash Patel or anybody at the FBI about this yet?

So we had one of our vice presidents for research, Seamus Bruner, was at the roundtable last week of the White House with the president.

And we

showed our follow-the-money report.

It was a three and a half minute presentation.

The president very publicly then said to us, would you please share this information with the Attorney General and with the Director of the FBI?

And that information exchange is taking place and there is communication.

And Glenn, as always, the information we have is all public record, meaning we dig and we find.

This is not speculation.

These are not anonymous sources.

So yes, that information is being shared with U.S.

law enforcement, something we've done since the founding founding of GAI going back to 2011.

So

I got a call from

the FBI over the weekend, and I had three FBI agents show up at my house this weekend.

And this was friendly, right?

Yeah, I said that.

I said,

I would be a little more concerned if it was the last administration, but you guys are friendly, right?

And they say, yes, Mr.

Mayor, we just have some questions about a special I did where we just tied, you know, open sources, easy open sources

together and they

um

uh

they wanted to know more about it and i started talking to them you know i said it kind of works like the tides foundation you guys are going to have a hard time finding things because they they're very good at money laundering etc etc and i said but you're going to have an easier time because you can go into banking records uh you know if you get the you know the the warrants et cetera etc and um and i was i was surprised at how far behind they were and i talked to cash patel yesterday i was at the white house

and he said, Glenn,

we can pretty much tell you everybody who went to a Latin mass in the last five years, but nobody's done any of this work.

No, the administrations of the past, since Barack Obama, they have sworn off all investigations of this stuff.

So we are starting from the very beginning.

They really need help.

I mean, well, they do.

And Glenn, the special you did was excellent.

And you do the same things we do.

It's public information.

In other words, don't take my word for it.

You can replicate what we found and you can use as a government authority subpoena power.

This is the same thing that happened, remember, with the Hunter Biden situation.

We learned a lot more once you had congressional committees issuing subpoenas.

In this particular case, I would argue, the stakes may even be higher because what what you're seeing is the organized funding of radical groups who are not out protesting and carrying signs and they are engaged in violent provocative acts.

They are targeting U.S.

law enforcement.

And this is the very definition of RICO, right?

The RICO statutes were designed to get organized crime figures.

You'd have the street guys who were, you know, beating people up, and those people would get arrested, but they could never get to the money people that that were organizing it and paying these guys to beat people up so RICO came along and said you know what we are going to now be able to charge people with organizing criminal violent activity so this is a classic definition of RICO and it's a question now of federal law enforcement and prosecutors at DOJ

doing what exactly what you said, which is pulling financial records.

And if you've got entities and individuals, which I believe you do, you've demonstrated it, we've demonstrated it, that are knowingly funding groups that are engaging in violent conduct on American streets, that to me is the very definition of RICO and the reason that it was designed in the first place.

So I agree with you on that, but let me come back.

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I want to come back with you, Peter.

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Are you going to be able to track the funding to the street activity?

Do you believe that connection is is there?

Because I think they're winding up a lot of very sick and unhealthy people and street people, et cetera, et cetera.

You don't necessarily have to pay, you know, and somebody can come by with a hundred bucks.

Do you think we're going to find the actual funding of the street movement?

Because everybody in the press is saying, oh, well,

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Well, who's paying for the union printed signs and everything else that they have?

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So, Peter, we're working on a special for either January or February, and I'd love to involve you in this.

Sure.

But do you think we're going to be able to find the actual

payoff of the streets or even the people who are supplying the bricks and

everything else that are sometimes dropped off on streets?

I don't think we have to show that.

We may be able to show that.

I think it is enough based on precedence and the way this has been applied in the criminal world.

If you have an organization, for example, this happened down in Georgia in the so-called stop cop city.

This was the example that James Gruner used in front of the president, where you had actual organizations that were funded by the Tides Foundation.

Those organizations were involved in protests that led to throwing Molotov cocktails, attacking police officers.

Those organizations and members were charged by prosecutors in Georgia, Democrats, by the way,

the prosecutors were, with domestic terrorism, RICO, a whole bunch of other sorts of conduct.

If you can show that an organization,

a grant giver, let's say, is giving money to a nonprofit organization that has engaged in this violent activity in the past,

there's a pattern there, and there clearly has been with a lot of these organizations, and then that organization is communicating and coordinating.

with violent protesters.

That is all you need to demonstrate.

You don't need to actually show that the brick brick that was thrown or the Molokov cocktail that was thrown, the gasoline and the bottle were paid for by the grantor.

You are allowing, you are funding an organization that is coordinating violent conduct that is taking place.

That is what I think the legal threshold is.

So what they need to do is do what you know was done by prosecutors during January 6th.

Let's get the communication devices of these individuals that are involved with organizing protests.

Were they communicating with other protesters who ended up pushing the violence?

Then you have organizations like the Party for Socialism and Liberation and the Freedom Road Socialist Organization.

We've talked about those before, Glenn, and I know you have as well.

These are hardcore Marxist groups.

They align themselves with the CCP.

You can find so many examples where they are engaged in protests that turn violent.

So, you know, you want to look at those organizations.

Are the leaders of those organizations communicating with people that end up throwing them all atop cocktails, et cetera?

If you show that, you absolutely have coordination.

You don't have to show that the gasoline was paid for by the Grant Giver.

Wow.

Peter, I have real hope for the first time that we are actually going to go after these people and we could get to an end of that.

Is this a...

Foolish hope or do you have the same kind of feeling?

No, I share that, Glenn.

Look, there are a couple of things that are really, I think, exciting about this.

Number one is you have the political courage in Washington, it seems,

at least from the president, to pursue these issues.

But the second thing that I do appreciate is it's being done in a transparent way, which allows for

accountability.

They're not saying, well, we'll get back to you in a year.

I mean, there's actually communication.

Now we need to see that the action is taking place, but there does absolutely seem to be movement.

So I'm very encouraged, as you are.

Peter, always good to talk to you.

Thank you so much for the update.

I appreciate it.

Thanks, Claire.

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It's the craziest story I've ever heard.

The Diesel Brothers,

as their name implies, the Diesel Brothers.

And when they first started, you know, they were on television and they were making these diesel trucks to do crazy things.

Well, the Utah physicians for a healthy environment were very offended that one of the trucks they made had 36 times more

pollutants in the air than if they would have just left it alone.

And so they got together with Biden's federal government and they took them to court and they were fined like a million and a half dollars, million point two, I think.

And the diesel brothers have been fighting and going,

what?

What are are you talking about?

But they've been fighting it back and forth.

And I lost track.

Heavy D, Dave Sparks, was on with us.

He did a podcast with me about a year or so ago, and we talked about it.

And, you know, they still had to, you know, finish this all up.

Well, he's just been arrested a couple of weeks ago.

He was arrested and put into solitary confinement for three days.

Why that's necessary for polluting the air is beyond me.

But he is here to tell us the whole story.

Dave, welcome to the program.

How are you?

Good morning, Glenn.

Good to hear from you.

Yeah, it's good to have you on.

We've been praying for you and thinking about you.

This is ridiculous.

Well, thank you.

I appreciate that.

I'm actually doing significantly better now that I'm not locked up like an animal.

You were in solitary confinement for three days.

What was the reason?

Well, I got put in jail.

And when a high-profile person gets put in jail, they give you basically protective custody.

So the jailhouse was actually very courteous to me.

I feel like they did their best with the bad situation.

But unfortunately, a guy like me, if I get thrown in the general population, it causes problems for everybody at the jail.

It just starts a potential riot in there because people get excited.

People try to maybe extort me.

People try to start a meet and greet.

There's just all sorts of different things that can go wrong.

So they said, look, your option is that, go start a riot or go get locked in a cell where you're allowed out for one hour for every 48 hours.

And that was unfortunately the route that we had to go.

But man, it was the most dehumanizing experience of my life.

So, why were you arrested?

I was arrested on contempt of court charges.

Now,

the unique thing about contempt of court charges is they are very broad and there's no bail.

So, you can get thrown in jail for contempt of court for kind of anything, and you can't get out.

So, even though, you know, as soon as I got arrested, I called my attorney and said, All right, let's get this figured out, get me out of here.

And he said, Dave, there's no bail.

You're stuck in there until either the judge orders your release or until the attorneys, the UPHE attorneys, stipulate to your release.

So I thought, oh, that should be easy.

These are reasonable, you know,

I'm not a criminal.

I didn't do anything wrong.

I didn't break any laws.

They'll let me out of jail.

Well, I was wrong.

They chose to keep me in jail essentially as a way to try to extort more money out of me.

And at this point, Glenn, I've just had it with this case.

I'm done getting pushed around and bullied around for nine years.

So I finally just said, you know what?

I'm just not going to play their games anymore.

I'll sit through jail.

I will go to court in my hearing, you know, in a few days, and I'll tell the judge my story and explain why why I'm not in contempt.

Because essentially, the contempt charges were brought against us as the UPHE attorneys lied to the judge, saying that we had failed to produce thousands of documents over the years.

So my attorney had a stroke of genius at my hearing on last Thursday and showed up with basically a PowerPoint with like 40-something slides that said, Your Honor, look at all the stuff that we've provided.

These are all the things that you threw Mr.

Sparks in jail for not providing.

Halfway through the hearing, the judge stopped.

He looked around.

He looked at the attorneys for the UPHE and he said, please tell me there's not a man sitting in shackles and chains in my courtroom right now because you couldn't communicate correctly.

Stopped the hearing, called a recess, took the attorneys back in his chambers, apologized to my attorney, and then came back out and basically said, I can't believe this ever happened.

Mr.

Sparks, I might have lost for words.

I'm now finally seeing what's happening here.

And

you're going to be free immediately.

And he said, UPHE, I don't ever want to see you in my courtroom again with these guys.

So it was a very vindicating moment.

But, Glenn, the craziest part is this was all about attorney's fees.

This was not about the federal penalty.

We had no problem paying the federal penalty.

Under the Clean Air Act, there's a stipulation that says if a private action group brings action against you on a clean air violation, even if they only win 1% of their claim, they can bill you 100%

of the attorney's fees.

So the federal attorney's fees were just this blank check.

It was an ever-going blank check that I said no to.

And so they weren't coming out because you paid the federal government fees?

We've paid a huge chunk of it, yes.

We've been working with the treasury because it's unique.

You know, it's a Utah Positions for a Healthy Environment.

So you would think, all right, this money should go to the state of Utah.

And for nine years, I have said, I'll fix this.

I'll plant trees.

I'll fix low-income family cars.

Let's get the air clean here in Utah.

You guys have a cause.

This is my home.

You know, we made a mistake back in the early days of our business.

Let's do some good here.

And they said, no.

They said, we want that money to go to the federal government, basically the treasury, to get subsumed in the giant federal budget.

And then more importantly, we want our attorney's fees and we want every single penny of them.

And we're not going to tell you how much they are because you've cost us so much time and money fighting this that

it's just a secret number that maybe one day we'll tell you.

But we're not going to tell you really because this is a giant press campaign and we don't want this to end.

And so we're not going to, Glenn, we've tried

settling with this case for for seven years.

I've made offers month after month after month.

I've made full price offers.

I've made over full price offers.

They haven't taken them.

And why is that?

Because they don't want to settle.

They want the press.

They want the publicity.

And they want to continue to just milk this never-ending cow of free, you know,

just media that they've been getting by suing the Diesel Brothers.

But they finally took it one step too far by taking someone's freedom.

And I got to tell you, people are upset.

I'm talking millions and millions and millions of people are very upset.

We were very upset.

My wife and I read about it, and we were like, what the hell is happening?

How control.

So is this judge, do you think this is a turning point in your case where other judges are going to start to see what's actually happening here?

This is not only the turning point in our case, but this is also a turning point in this law in general.

The Clean Air Act is written very broadly, and there's a lot of room for interpretation, not in favor of whoever the offenders are.

Remember, the Clean Air Act is not a law.

It's an act that was written and therefore has all sorts of different sorts of enforcement actions that are possible.

But there's a guy up in Wyoming right now who just got out of prison.

He was there for nine months on a life sentence for doing similar stuff as us.

This has happened all across the country.

So finally, congressmen, senators, lawmakers.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A life sentence for what?

Putting a straight pipe out of the engine?

Yep.

Yep.

That's exactly right.

It's gotten out of control.

And these environmental attorneys and their groups know that they can exploit it.

But Glenn, the scary part is this is not the first time they've done this.

Do a quick Google search of the UPHE and their lawsuits.

And just what pops up online is going to show you 20-plus different cases that they've done this over the past decade.

And every single one of them has been settled privately.

Their attorney's fees just got, you know, quietly absorbed into the abyss.

And I've talked to multiple people that have been sued by them, all the way from big Fortune 500 companies down to little mom and pop shops.

And every single story is the same.

They say UPHE ruined my life.

And UPHE thought they had, you know,

their greatest tale of all time by suing us because it's a big media campaign, like I said.

And I just don't think they were prepared for me to be as stubborn as I am because I am just, I didn't even realize that I was standing up for something all this time.

I just knew that I was standing up for myself and I wasn't okay with what was happening.

But it turned out to be a much bigger picture.

I was standing up for something that

has been a problem for so many years for so many people.

And Glenn, if I didn't, this was going to continue to be a problem.

Like, let's say you're driving down the freeway, your check engine light comes on.

There's an attorney in your rearview mirror.

He can go to the court and say, this person driving in front of me, I can't necessarily prove it, but I know that their car wasn't fully compliant.

I'm injured.

I need a million dollars tomorrow.

And the judge will say, got it.

There's no defense.

There's no defense.

The Clean Air Act leaves no room for any sort of interpretation of how severe the damages were.

So if this doesn't get changed, it's just going to continue to be this racket.

It's all it is.

It's a racket.

And they've been getting away with it for far too long.

So who is behind the Physicians for a Healthy Environment?

Who are these?

This guy named Dr.

Brian Monk out of bountiful Utah.

He is the ringleader, and essentially he's got a handful of other physicians.

I don't know if they're practicing physicians or retired or what, but essentially they're activists and they're full-time environmentalists.

And they go around the state of Utah looking for anything that is putting anything into the air and they sue it and they sue it into oblivion and they have this very powerful broadly written act that allows them to just do endless discovery, do endless paperwork until they basically exhaust resources, exhaust people, and then bully them into submission and essentially get their blank check of attorney's fees.

The judge, when he saw it, it was the most pivotal moment probably of my life because the whole courtroom felt it.

It was like this palpable moment where I walked in in chains and cuffs and literally ankle and wrist restraints and my hands to my belly button in a convict jump jumpsuit.

That's crazy.

Treated like I had just killed somebody.

And the judge started the hearing by basically telling me that I was single-handedly dismantling the Constitution by not complying with the court process and how terrible it was that I was doing it.

And then he realized halfway through that he'd been lied to.

And now he's thinking, how many other cases have I been lied to about this how many how many times have these people brought false claims against other people this this is awakened the dragon that nobody even knew was asleep

um we we know the head of the epa right is it lees eldon leise eldon is good people yeah he's really good people have you talked to him about this So he's getting involved on, since, like I said, there's multiple cases like mine.

Some are criminal with the EPA.

Well, the funniest part about all this, when this all happened back in 2016, the UPATE filed their case and they took it to the EPA and said, hey, look what these guys are doing.

We had a call at the EPA and they said, this is like small potatoes.

You guys are nothing near like something that we need to pursue.

You guys aren't doing nearly enough.

Biden's nowhere near worth our time.

Biden's EPA did that.

Yep.

Wow.

But they basically just said, no, sorry, you're too small.

There's not enough going on.

But UPHE, you may proceed.

You have the law.

Go for it.

But so

this is not criminal.

There was never a criminal charge filed.

This was a civil paperwork dispute that landed me in jail for three days in maximum security.

Makes that make sense.

Unbelievable.

It's out of control, but it's changing.

Yeah, I'm glad.

And I'm really glad that, I mean, I'm glad, I hate to say it this way, but I'm glad they picked on you because you're not going to sit down.

You know, and

I think a lot of people feel the same way because you're right.

I'm not going to sit down.

I'm too dumb to sit down.

Dave, thanks so much for talking to us.

All my best.

Anything we can do, you just reach out anytime, okay?

I appreciate it.

Good to hear from you.

Dave Heavy D.

Sparks from the Diesel Brothers.

I mean, all this stuff.

This is the problem.

Our government makes laws.

The Congress makes laws.

But then because of these agencies,

they just enact whatever they want and they can get completely out of control.

And it's not just at the government level.

I'm telling telling you, there's a real problem in Utah.

I mean, Utah is changing and it is becoming a, I think, a out-of-control, dangerous, dangerous place.

And,

you know,

I can't believe I'm saying it, but that is the truth.

And a lot of the people from California are moving in and they're like, we really like this family atmosphere here.

We just have to make it more like California, which is killing it all.

But anyway, great to hear from Dave Sparks.

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the AI data centers are the new oil.

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Chris, welcome to the program.

How are you, sir?

I'm doing very well.

It's good to be back with you again.

Yeah, it's always great to have you on.

I am really concerned about the progress of these

server farms for a couple of reasons.

One,

compute is so expensive right now, and it's just getting, it's, you know, we're getting maybe, maybe 3 to 5% of the compute time.

These data centers are all being run for the, you know, for the advancement of AI right now.

And we're just getting a fraction of it if you go to ChatGPT or any of these things.

And we don't have the server farms that we need.

China is building them like crazy.

China is building energy like crazy.

And we are way behind.

How

bad is this situation and how do we correct it?

Well, you know, from out here in the cheap seats, it's very bad.

And I say the cheap seats because I hope, Glenn, that somebody behind the scenes is doing this in a more thoughtful way than seems to be happening.

We are building these data centers and slapping them in and hooking them up to our power grid.

So nationally, since 2022, electricity costs have gone up 35% over just three years, 35%.

But if you happen to be unfortunate enough to live near these data centers, you might have seen your electricity costs go up by nearly 300%.

Buffalo, it's 197% Baltimore, it's 125% Columbus, 110%.

Wait, wait, wait.

And is all of this due to the server farms?

Yes, if you live, it's all by proximity.

If you happen to be lucky enough to live more than 50 miles away from a significant data center, your electricity bills have not gone up all that much.

So it's just supply and demand.

We're slapping in demand, and nobody knows and is able to articulate where's the supply going to come

Well, I talked to the president about this

six months or so ago, and he said, Glenn,

I've instructed

the EPA and

the Department of Energy to slash all of the red tape.

He said,

I'm encouraging to use these small nuclear

power plants.

They're really, really safe.

They're much smaller, easier to build.

And he said,

I'm making these server farms, utilities,

they're going to be responsible for generating their own energy.

But I'm not seeing any ground being broken on this or anything happening there.

Are you?

No, and I would be a huge fan.

I'm a giant fan.

I put out many pieces supporting this idea of the small modular nukes.

Let's get them.

Huge fan.

However, those have, if you want to talk about what is the most red tapey of all possible

government entities, it's the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

So we'll see what can be done.

I think there's only so much you can do by executive order.

The rest is sort of bureaucratise and we'll see.

But even if we got that going right now, that's going to be years away before those are meaningfully installed.

What do we do between here and there?

And so on that front, the only option we have, because we're not putting in coal, nobody wants coal, fine, we're decommissioning coal, it's going to be natural gas plants.

Okay, we happen to be an energy superpower.

We make a lot of natural gas, gas, but here's the weird part.

The best estimates from the Energy Agency at the United States Department of Energy say that natural gas is going to be flat output for the next three to four years.

And you mentioned that 5% of all electricity demand going to 10%

is astonishing.

But it looks like by 2028

It's going to be 12% of all U.S.

electricity production.

Tell me what that means to the average person.

Your electricity bills are going to explode and your natural gas bills are going to explode because we just don't have enough.

This is the biggest, most obvious supply-demand mismatch in history.

Do you believe that we are looking at a California-style situation all over the country where we're going to have rolling brownouts?

Well, you know, if it's either the data centers or the people of Cincinnati getting electricity, the data centers have to operate 24-7, uninterrupted.

They don't have any options around that.

And let me just put this at scale.

So we've heard about their putting in one gigawatt, two-gigawatt data centers.

Sam Altman said we need six, five-gigawatt data centers.

What does that mean?

Denver runs on just under a gigawatt.

Oh my gosh.

They say we want to put in a one-gigawatt data center, which is this little building.

What they're really saying is we want to install an entire Denver's worth of electricity consumption, and we're going to use it mostly to make videos of cats on skates for now.

Oh, my gosh.

And a gigawatt.

I mean,

only China is at this place.

What, how many years will it take us?

Let's say we let's say the president declared, you know, kind of a national emergency that we had to do this, kind of like what we did in, in, uh, in the Great Depression, where we built, you know, dams and everything else.

Is that even possible today?

You know, what is the cost of just the copper wire?

Would we have

the transformers and

the conductivity, the wiring even, to be able to go from a power plant and carry that much power all around the country?

Is it even possible?

It's a great question.

I wish I had good answers for you, but right now there's three things when you have to scale up really big.

So time, how much time is going to take, the scale of it.

It's just the larger the the scale, the more planning required.

And then the cost of it, but the cost has two components, just the dollar cost, but you're mentioning the more important one too, which is do we have the resources there?

And resources are copper, but also the skill sets.

You know, you just don't go on monster.com and order up, you know, 50,000 utility-grade, you know, scale operators, right?

We've let a lot of these programs go into attrition.

We don't make our own, currently, Hitachi's going to come back in and try and make some of this, but we don't make our own transformers, for example.

So we get those from China.

And those are sometimes a year out, are they not?

Two years now for most of them.

Yeah.

So

again, could we scale this up?

It's possible, but here's, I worry there's a political dimension.

You would know more about this than me.

But so Trump says it's important.

And the first thing that's going to happen is all these activist judges and Democrats are going to say, well, we hate it just because you said so, and they're going to fight it.

And they've been very effective at that.

And so a lot of energy turns into NIMBYism, right?

Everybody's sort of in favor of these things until it's in their backyard.

And then the fights come out.

China doesn't care.

If they have to move 30 villages out of the way of a dam, that's what happens.

And next thing you know, they have

the electricity they need.

So what

is the solu?

What should we be pushing for as people?

Well, I think we have to have a comprehensive plan that says, look,

our energy resources should be used by our people.

Right now, there are massive LNG plants going in, and Trump loves them, but that's okay, but we take our gas molecules out of the Pennsylvania soil and we put them into a plant and we liquefy it and we send it over to Germany, and that's fine.

But we should probably be using that right now.

I would critically say, listen, I know a lot of money went into this, but we need

those gas molecules for ourselves, for our own prosperity.

All energy policies have to start with what do we have,

how much do we need, and if there's anything left over, that's what we sell, and that's not quite how it's arranged right now.

And how do we

survive?

I mean,

can we even compete in this race if we don't have the energy?

Well, AI is fundamentally, it's a question of electrical power, right?

And so you mentioned exactly the right thing.

So it was 2010 when China finally started to produce as much electrical power as the United States.

So that was 2010.

That was about 4,000, what they call terawatt hours.

It's a lot of big number, but that was where they crossed over.

Today, China produces 10,000 terawatt hours, and we're still at about 4,000.

So they're producing 150% more electricity than we are.

So if we said, wow, AI is fundamentally about power and that whoever has the power wins the race,

We won't be able to catch up to China anytime soon.

And so the concern is that the decision is going to be made.

Gosh, AI is too important.

It's national security.

We have to achieve this crazy thing called AGI or whatever it is.

We have to put the electricity there.

Then the people get short-changed on that.

And then we call those rolling brownouts or periods of electrical instability.

Likelihood of that?

At our current pace,

it's a certainty at this point.

Something has to change.

Chris, thank you so much.

Please stay in touch.

Any updates on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you, Gladys.

Chris Martinson, he is with peakprosperity.com.

He's the founder and CEO.

You can find him.

The website is peakprosperity.com.

This is something that, you know, I was talking to

a guy named Max Tegmart.

I don't know if you know who he is.

He's an AI ethicist

and really, really smart.

He wrote Life 3.0 about five years ago.

Great book.

You should read it.

But he talks about all of the issues and what life is going to be like with AI.

And we were talking about the problem is all of these things are being discussed at the highest levels.

They're being discussed by,

you know, Sam Altman is talking about making Sam God.

That's what he calls it.

Super AI, ASI.

He calls it Sam God.

He's creating a God.

And that's his goal.

And this guy is not a guy I want creating God.

And

this race to ASI is so incredibly dangerous.

But just

the way that we are moving right now, forget about AGI or ASI.

Just the demands of regular AI that are coming online.

It is going to change our world.

It is going to change your job.

And nobody is talking to you about it.

Have you ever attended anything where they're going deep dive and talking about this at your level, what it means?

Have you heard anybody talk about when your energy bill goes up, you're hearing, well, that's because of Biden energy.

Well, is it?

Yes, because they refused to build anything.

In fact, they were dismantling us.

But also it's because Biden and everybody else has not paid attention to what is coming.

You cannot run a country on what's happening today.

You have to have a 5, 10, 20-year plan when it comes to technology.

You cannot.

It's like when Obama pulled out all of those oil rigs in the Gulf of America.

He pulls all these oil rigs out, and nobody was talking about this is not something that you get back into office and put back in.

Those are on 20-year, 50-year leases.

So we pull them out and they're taken down to South America and planted someplace else.

And you're not getting them back.

And it takes years to build new ones.

That's the kind of problems that we have now.

We have

we're doing what's happening in Washington right now.

Why is our government closed?

And I'm actually glad that they're closed.

I want all of this stuff stopped.

I'm thrilled that they're closed.

But why are they closed?

Because they're playing games.

They're not talking about the things that actually matter.

They're not trying to solve anything.

They're really not trying to solve anything.

At least the Democrats are.

And, you know, they get back in that energy policy.

You're going to become Venezuela.

This energy policy must change dramatically now.

And we have to have have the conversation about what is

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chief executive of Ford just got back from China, and he said,

if

we don't hurry up, They are moving at such a rapid rate in China.

He said they have whole factories that don't have lights in them

because robots don't need lights.

And yeah, it's crazy.

And he said, what's happening in China, they are moving so rapidly on things that,

let me quote him here.

I want to make sure I get it right.

We are in global competition with China and it's not just EVs.

And if we lose this, we do not have a future at Ford.

I feel like my whole life I've had this underlying assumption that these giant centrally planned economies, we were always had the advantage over them because we embraced capitalism, we embraced free markets, and over time they would make bad decisions, they would have six-year plans that would fail, and we would always have the advantage because of that dynamic.

And I mean, I think that's changed to some level, partially because we've moved toward them.

And they've moved toward us.

So the gap isn't nearly as large as it was.

Correct.

And I, you know,

it doesn't mean that

I'd still rather be us than them.

We cannot become them.

You know, we didn't become the Soviet Union to defeat the Soviet Union.

We had our principles.

That's what beat the Soviet Union, our principles and our way of life.

We cannot try to beat China by becoming China.

Right.

That's a terrible idea.

Terrible idea.

We should go back to us,

more us.

And I think the President and some in Congress are trying to do that, moving us that direction in some ways.

The problem really is that, you know, China can make a 20-year plan.

Trump is now on a three-year plan.

If we lose, the Democrats come back and all of this is reversed.

And we go back to the green energy garbage, and we're out.

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I mean, that's the advantage of China.

They can think.

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But we don't have a unifying vision at all.

We're a country split absolutely in two, going in two opposite directions.

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We've been

talking a little bit about life today and how

we really need to begin to see how life is being cheapened all over the world.

And

it's getting really bad up in Canada.

I was with some Canadians yesterday.

I saw them.

I was out in front of the Capitol yesterday after meeting with Senator Lee.

And I come out and these people say, that's Glenn Back, Glenn Back.

And I turn around and they're like, oh, my gosh.

And they come up to me and they're Canadians.

I'm like,

couldn't we use, can you still cross the border from Canada?

I didn't even know that was legal still.

They love this humor, but they love this humor, but they were great and they're big fans.

And, you know, I asked them about, you know, how things were going in Canada.

They're like, really not good.

And I said, I'm really concerned about your MAID program.

And they were like,

yeah, you think so?

Canada is in a euthanasia crisis.

The cheapening of life, this started out about 10 years ago in Canada.

You know, if you have a chronic illness and you are close to death, you're going to die die anyway.

And I don't mean like from old age.

I mean you are close to death and you're in massive pain, you can end life.

Now, if you remember right, Stu and I talked about this in the days of Fox.

One of the problems we had was the complete live system with

Obamacare.

Yeah.

When you have a government health care system, all it takes is

a shortage of any kind, and then you start devaluing life on both ends of the spectrum.

Up until 12, Zeke Emmanuel's is up, I think, up until 12 years old.

You get very little

Medicare or medicine and care.

And over 50, they begin to cut your care.

They keep the ones who are actually working hard and making all the money.

They keep all of the care there because that's what's good for society.

Well, this is exactly what's happening in Canada, and they're just not saying it.

I mean, they can't keep up with

system of care that they have up there.

People are dying all the time.

And so, what they're trying to do is just reduce the surplus population.

And so now you can go in

and get euthanasia for, I mean, pain.

You can't conduct yourself with meaningful activities anymore.

You can't perform your daily activities.

You have depression, autism.

I mean,

all kinds of stuff.

Really, any reason.

Any reason.

I mean,

it's at least expanding to that eventually.

It's just expanded.

There were two people that were just cleared for euthanasia because they got kicked out of their home because their home was being given to illegals.

Okay, so these Canadian citizens.

They get kicked out of the home.

They can't find a place to live.

And they're getting depressed about it.

They go to the doctor and the doctor's like, well, we don't have any beds for you.

You know, it'll be months before we can see you.

I mean, you can't give me some, you can't give me any kind of help on this.

Nope.

My gosh, they should have illegally crossed into this country.

We've been happy to help them.

I know.

Well, no, they're Canadians.

If they're Canadian, then they're probably white, and we can't help them.

Oh, gosh, I hate white people.

I know me too.

So

they convince two of these people just to kill themselves.

You know, how?

Because so awful.

Awful.

Awful.

But this is, you you know, this is

a long stand.

You know, you want to make a slippery slope argument.

This is a really easy place to be.

And it's happened over and over again.

Yeah, this is the same place it starts every time.

It's always.

Every time.

You know, you look at that.

What was the movie

A Million Dollar Baby, I believe it was, if I'm remembering right?

It was Clean East Wood.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so

that was a really fascinating movie to watch as someone in our position, if you're a conservative,

because she, spoiler alerts throughout, she was a female boxer.

This is a long time since I've recounted the story, so I apologize if I get it wrong, but she has a terrible injury in the ring and is put on basically like life support and kind of wants to die.

And he unplugs her at the end, if I remember right, basically.

And she dies.

And it's like, it's the best possible case in a way for euthanasia.

You feel terrible for her.

She had all this to live for.

This awful thing happened to her.

She was incredibly unhappy.

And, you know,

you felt like he was doing the right thing.

The movie presented it in a way that it felt like, you know, this is a tough choice, but he did the right thing.

I'm trying to remember the Rachel McAdams

movie about kind of the very same thing.

It was really disturbing.

Life Without You or something.

I don't know.

And she, you know, she falls in love with this guy and, you know, she thinks he has a great life, but he's in a wheelchair and they have a great time.

And she doesn't know that she's just caretaking because his parents are trying to get him to find purpose in life again.

He was in an accident, found purpose in life again, but he just wants to kill himself.

And so they fall in love and everything else.

And then the end, he's like, yeah, well, I'm going to kill myself.

And he does.

And

you're made to feel like that's an okay.

Yeah, like, hey, great.

Yeah.

You know, and I think those, those are valuable vehicles because they challenge you a little bit.

You're like, okay, this is a tough situation, a tough call, or whatever.

And I remember at the end of the movie being like, yeah, I'm still pretty sure, though.

Me too.

You don't need to plug people when there's no reason to.

And

that is always where it starts, where you feel like, okay, there's a tough call to be made here.

This person's in pain.

They're suffering.

But if you don't prioritize life

above all else in these situations, above quality of life,

above

whether they feel that they have nothing to live for.

If you don't prioritize life, at least from a legal standpoint,

you put your society on a slippery slope that ends this way every single time.

And

we all kind of understand the truth of the situation, which is it's very difficult to prevent.

over someone's life.

If they want to take their own life, they're probably going to be able to do it.

But like coming to a societal acceptance of something like this

puts you on a road to darkness.

Well, they say that, you know, we're doing this scientifically.

We have three doctors that have to sign off on this.

Well, it's exactly the number the Nazis had to, had to have three doctors.

And then they trim that number?

I thought I remember that.

They did.

They did.

I think they had one or maybe two.

They trimmed that number.

I think it may be back up to three.

But here's the really good thing.

You get more doctors involved because now

they are prepping the people for euthanasia with,

I think it's heparin, which you put a line in of heparin and that preserves your organs.

And so as soon as the doctor's off you, other doctors take you and take out your organs.

And now Canada is becoming one of the biggest

organ warehouses since Hammond.

Organ warehouse.

Organ warehouse.

Get your organs here.

I love shopping at organ warehouse.

especially when they have the two for ones that's you got to get it when it's bogo you got to get in there you got to get in there and get it get a couple kidneys

you have no idea how many kidneys you're going to need in the future you can always freeze one right maybe you get a bet maybe you can get a baby kidney Oh,

they're killing the babies now, too.

That's great.

Great news.

And you think, does that sound like a good idea or a bad idea?

It sounds bad.

And then you realize that, of course, we do that all the time.

That's a time honor tradition.

Well, Well, no, no, no.

You're just planning parenthood.

That's all you're doing.

You're just planning it.

You're just planning it.

You're planning it by ending it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's a really, that's a really good thing.

So it's, you know, we have a lot of decisions to make and we need to come back to,

you know, everything really is about choosing life.

If you look at the situation in Virginia,

situation in Virginia, you got a guy who says, I want to see, you know, the mother hold the dying babies if they've all been shot to death.

I want to watch her hold her dying babies in her hand.

That's choose life.

Okay.

Just choose life.

That's not cool.

You look at AI.

That's not life.

That's not life.

That's artificial intelligence.

It's not life.

It's going to be deemed life if we're not careful,

but it's not life.

And people are confusing it with life.

And they would rather have that in their life than their family.

And they're spending all their time on AI and they're making friends and having relationships, but that's not choosing life.

Everything we are dealing with right now is about choosing life.

Hamas over Israel, choose life.

And if we can just get that down, just that one thing down,

we heal so much of our land and so much of our country.

Quick recommendation, Glenn, if you, if you have, I don't think, I don't know, I know we talked about it maybe at the time, if you haven't read it yet.

The Atlantic had a story that

came out in September.

It was called Canada is Killing Itself.

The country gave its citizens the right to die.

Doctors are struggling to keep up with demand.

It is a terrifying story about where this country is headed.

And, you know, again, Atlantic isn't, you know, some hardcore, right-weight, pro-life organization here.

It's just, it's getting out of control.

And it's just easy once you start justifying, once you pass,

you know, once you pass that line to yes, all sorts of things start making sense to you.

Once you're like, yeah,

I guess we could just kill people if we want, all sorts of really dark realities start presenting themselves and seem rational to societies.

This is a bad road to go down.

Have you heard of wetwear?

I'm about to go really weird.

No, I have not.

Yeah.

When you hear of wet works, what do you think of?

Have you ever heard that term, wet works?

Tears?

No, wet works, you know, usually means, you know,

that's somebody, no, that's somebody who's coming in and cleaning up the blood after

the wet work people come in and clean it all up.

Like the guy in Pulp Fiction.

He comes in.

Yes.

Yes.

Right.

So there's something now that doctors are calling wet wear.

And it involves creating neurons, which are developed into clusters called organoids.

And they are started with many of the

cells that are coming out of aborted babies.

And they are trying to use them for the energy

for computers.

And this is happening in Switzerland.

And

I don't know if

you saw the movie, The Matrix, but I mean, that is the kind of world that we are actually

starting to talk about, where humans become the power sources for

AI.

And

this goes right into what

Noah Yaval Harari has been talking about, where, you know, we got to keep people plugged into the Matrix, keep them plugged in.

He didn't call it the matrix, but plugged into the internet and online and drugged.

Well,

we are entering times now that we really,

really

need to talk

because it's all moving forward so rapidly.

I don't know, biocomputing kind of sounds, I don't know,

a little frightening, a little frightening,

especially with power shortages and the devaluation of life.

I mean, what are you willing to do?

Do we have any lines anymore as a society?

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And Trump called him a communist yesterday.

I think that's accurate.

He's an Islamist communist.

He called himself a Bolshevist.

Yeah, I mean,

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That's not a communist.

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Oh, totally different.

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And

you have the race for governor in Virginia.

That's close.

They're saying the race in New Jersey is close.

Some polling shows it pretty close.

That would be amazing.

We could win both of those.

I'm not counting on either of them, but if we could win both of those, that bodes really well.

Does it feel to you like the environment where Republicans pull off two big victories in bluish states?

I don't.

No.

I don't know.

It doesn't feel like that to me right now, but it's possible.

I mean, both of these candidates are doing, I think, a relatively good job and are close.

Virginia should be a home run.

I mean, it's insane.

They're doing very well.

Youngkin's popular.

This should be

an easy one, but for whatever reason, Virginia, which, you know, again, I kind of consider a light blue state, not purple, more blue than purple.

It's winnable occasionally for Republicans, but very difficult.

New Jersey is a blue state.

And every once in a while, it feels like we're going to win New Jersey, and then we don't.

That's basically how I always see New Jersey.

There's always a poll that makes me optimistic for two days and then it doesn't happen, which has been the result over and over again.

It seems to be getting closer and closer in these races, though, as we saw in 2024.

So

maybe there's some hope there.

That would be nice.

Yeah.

I'd feel much more at ease if those things were.

Yeah, because that would show, it would certainly give you real optimism for 2026 that maybe the trend of the party in power losing that election would be turned around.

Not going to be easy though, Glenn, is it?

We've got a lot of work ahead of us.

Because even if we get Republicans across the water, then you're still going to have Bomdani.

I mean, it's going to be a stark, stark contrast.

And I hope it is that.

I hope it's across the water, it's communist,

and on New Jersey, it's common sense.

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